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Speaker 1: What Gucci Stanley Tucci, We're back, Episode one hundred and fifteen.

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It's fire Escape Cast. I'm Mike, your host is always

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here with Dan, who seems upset.

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Speaker 2: I don't like that. You got to workshop that.

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Speaker 1: No, don't even workshop it, just scrap it over something

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about last time? And what did you do anything? I

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tried rhyming a bunch of actors' names with other greetings

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and it doesn't work.

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Speaker 2: Real quick, do you want right now? Don't think about it?

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Speaker 1: Go what's happening? Billy crapping In? I like that better?

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But who is he? That's our mascots? He and the

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Devil Wars product? Does he have a travel show?

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Speaker 2: Billy crapping In is their new mascot? Introduced Mary.

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Speaker 1: That's Mary Kesh, whose.

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Speaker 3: Name rhymes Willy crapping In, whose.

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Speaker 1: Name requires no inch. Howction that's bad? Like who is

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Billy Crappin? He? He has tried several times to get

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into Warhammer forty k painting minifigs, but he doesn't have

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the space because he lives in a studio apartment and

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he works at a foster care center for cats. But

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a lot of people bring in dogs and lizards and

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that's his main problem. He's trying to get people. He's

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trying to remind people in his neighborhood that it's only

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foster center for cats. But coincidentally, the neighborhood dogs and

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lizards have all taken to have developed a taste for

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cat food because so many of them are spending time

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with this foster care. So that's one of his problems.

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He also has stage sick. Now I'm not gonna get

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grim about it.

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Speaker 2: My goodness. We're gonna start to go fund me for

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Billy crappin In. Yeah, yeahs medical bills, yeah.

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Speaker 1: Well, direct the money to the appropriate source, don't you an?

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Speaker 2: The crapping In family will launch the go fund me

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game of.

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Speaker 1: The year twenty twenty five, fire Escape will be dedicated

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to the crappin In family. It'll be Billy Kravinen fundraiser

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for his He has unselfish, He's got he's got internal hemorrhoids.

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He does ask that all the proceeds go to the

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cat center, though those lizards and dogs needs homes.

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Speaker 2: Do you think internal hemorrhoids are worse? I've had external

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and they're the worst thing ever. Do you think internal

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would be worse.

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Speaker 1: I think internal hemorrhoids are just tumors.

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Speaker 2: I feel like it would be the same thing, but

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it's like the thing when it's on the outside, it

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can rub against you know, like like cloth and shit

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like that, and like if it's inside, it's all just

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like wet butt stuff. Like I would think that would

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be like easier, right.

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Speaker 3: Don't you think it's rubbing against your organs?

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Speaker 2: Yeah, but that's like wet body stuff instead of like

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your underpants or like toilet paper. You know, I don't know.

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Speaker 1: I imagine it would still mess with your physiology somehow.

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Speaker 2: I mean, the external ones are absolutely terrible.

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Speaker 1: They are.

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Speaker 2: They were way worse than I expected when I got

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my first one.

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Speaker 1: Just poking drain baby. No, that's what my doctor said.

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Speaker 2: So I got back from New Orleans, New Orleans, where

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I got my hemorrhoid, and I came back another my

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butt hurts.

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Speaker 1: Doc, Wait, why do you do? What about you? You know,

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specifically where you got it? Yeah, because I remember thinking

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like cause I was. It was my dad's fiftieth and

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we went to New Orleans, and I remember like near

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the end of the trip thinking like, oh, this is

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just one of those things where I've been traveling and like,

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that's why my butt hurts. And it's like when I wipe,

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it hurts, and so you know, you travel sometimes and

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your butt gets weird. So I was describing it to

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my father as you do, and he has also had hemorrhoids,

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and he was like, no, it sounds like you're describing

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a hemorrhoid.

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Speaker 2: And I was like, I don't know, I don't know.

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He say, yeah, you got to see the doctor when

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you get back. So I remember waiting, like I can't

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wait to get back to Minnesota so I can check

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all my butt at a doctor. And he did tell

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me yeah.

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Speaker 1: About this, and he's like, you can either like a lancet.

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Speaker 2: Or the way he put it, I'll never forget. He's like, oh,

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you can wait it out. Within a week it'll be gone.

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Or I can take a scalpel. You know you're gonna

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bite like a belt thing. And I'm going to go,

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oh yeah, yeah. I think he said it involves me

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taking a scalpel to your asshole. And uh, I'm just

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being like, oh, I'll fucking wait.

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Speaker 1: And I did the first time. Doc.

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Speaker 3: I'm going to pull my pants down again. Yeah, fourth

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time this week in front of a strange but attractive man.

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Speaker 2: I mean, look as a man who had ball surgery

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when he was eighteen, I kind of don't have any

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uh any. I'm fine with that. Assholes, dicks, whatever I

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got to show to a doctor. It's just some you know.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, sometimes you do and they don't even want to

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see it. Yeah.

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Speaker 2: Sometimes I just go in for my physical and it's

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just like, yeah, you have a you have a sinus affection, sir.

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Speaker 3: What about my butthole?

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Speaker 1: I don't need to see your asshole to know that

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what it means.

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Speaker 3: To my butthole when I sneeze?

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Speaker 1: Is it normal too?

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Speaker 3: Is it normal?

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Speaker 2: Just ship every time I sneeze?

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Speaker 3: Get in there, doc, your I got.

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Speaker 2: I got no problem with that.

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Speaker 3: It's just the latest suppositories.

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Speaker 2: Oh yeah, I have done this suppository stuff during the

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hemorrhoid times.

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Speaker 1: Yes. Oh really wait, it's easy scribespositories for hemorrhoids. It's

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like when it's like a cream thing. No, I'm talking

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about the big butt pills.

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Speaker 3: We're like not even ten minutes in, there's just so

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much anal.

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Speaker 2: I'm like, you know, a suppository can be like it's

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like a little candle you put in your buttole.

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Speaker 3: It don't like a nice little candle.

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Speaker 2: It is because it's like it's like a cream that

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like you just put in there and it just like

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instead of like just rubbing cream all over your asshole,

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you just put the little candle up there and it

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just kind of like melts from your butt warmth and

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then just makes it all, you know, smoother or whatever.

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Speaker 1: Oh that's news to me. I thought it was a

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big pill that you just I think you can.

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Speaker 2: I think there are I've never done pill pill butt

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Stuffy Row used to put all of her drugs in

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her asshole.

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Speaker 1: Well that's a that's hot. I'm not saying you can't.

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She died, my fact, you can't. That's not how she died.

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She did not.

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Speaker 2: It might have been I thought she killed herself with pill.

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Speaker 3: She did, but saying that she specifically killed herself hugging pills.

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Speaker 1: Or did she overdose on something?

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Speaker 2: I think it was an overdose. It was not a suicide, but.

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Speaker 1: We were they contras. We don't know it could have

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been suicide. But leaving that aside, I don't know that

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it was the bud.

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Speaker 3: Only Dan the biggest looking at but doctor an awareness

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person we know is did Marilyn Monroe kill herself via

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but injected pills?

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Speaker 2: It was a barbituate overdose on August fourth, nineteen sixty two.

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Speaker 1: Barbatuates control f but troll f anus.

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Speaker 2: Huh. Yeah, it's not really talking about her.

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Speaker 3: But I don't think that her a Jewish conist that

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and I don't think her obituary is going to cover

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whether or not she consumed the pills orally or bodily.

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Speaker 1: You have funny New York Times a bit.

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Speaker 2: I guess it doesn't say that now. It doesn't mention

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anything about the butt.

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Speaker 3: You're just making up history. And I hope her estate

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sues you for.

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Speaker 2: Talking the state of Marilyn Monroe versus record Mary.

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Speaker 1: How's your ass?

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Speaker 3: She did not butt chug her pills? I'm great, My

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ass is great. What do you guys want to know?

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I haven't seen one doctor recently. They didn't see my asshole.

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What else is going on?

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Speaker 1: Oh?

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Speaker 3: I went to packs desperately trying to change subjects. Sure work. Yeah,

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I went to cock Pas it always does. I went

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to Packs West. I had a good time. We did

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switch me up. I met a U fire Escape fan there.

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I believe their name was Wizard of Video Games, and

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they knew all of our catchphrases. They told me not

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to kiss it. Uh, they are all the secrets.

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Speaker 1: Less talking, more dewey. Oh yeah sure. Yeah. My control

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f Anus.

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Speaker 2: That's the shure we got coming out.

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Speaker 1: Yeah. Oh what was it? Uh? There is? Uh, let

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me look it up. You keep talking.

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Speaker 2: I'm with control f Anus with an arrow.

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Speaker 1: Yeah.

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Speaker 2: Ask me about my control f anus. Yeah, ask me

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about my We're gonna have a whole line flip flops.

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Speaker 3: There's like a tiny fire Escape logo on.

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Speaker 1: Care for Hamilton and there's a moon in wheel World.

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Suck my dick.

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Speaker 2: Moon in World.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, that was my spoiler.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, oh you you're on the moon. You go to

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the moon. Yeah, I go to.

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Speaker 3: The moon, and you guys were like, that's a spoiler,

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and then I yelled at you.

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Speaker 1: Yeah that's right, that's right. It was fun to be

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on the receiving end.

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Speaker 3: Anyway, met some fire Escape fans and gamers alike at

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the meetup, and then I went to packs for one

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day and saw the show floor, observed the Resident Evil

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and new demo, and there was Silk Song on the floor,

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but I did not play it because it's just a

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demo and the game comes out for all of our listeners.

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The game comes out in less than twelve hours, So

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there's just no reason for me to play it at

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packs and wait in that long line when I'm literally

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going to play it in like a couple of days.

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Speaker 2: Okay, so you are you're going to do it without

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playing the first game. I mean, I guess you don't

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need the story.

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Speaker 1: I have to say. It is weird to say this.

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It is really flattering when you recommend something hard to

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your friend and they actually take you up on it,

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like I'm glad you're going to try it? Oh when

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I tried it? Or no, she hasn't played, so we

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recommend it. I'm gonna play folk Song to Mary and

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because we love. We're such big fans, and I'm glad

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you have.

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Speaker 3: Charlie, been fucking sucking yourselves off all week waiting for

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this opportunity to talk to me, like I don't fucking

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know this game like the back of my ass, you

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triple a fucking Kojima jerking ship stain. Do not get

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to talk to me about fucking hollow Night. You don't

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deserve to you style you talk ship about this art

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style all the time. You deserve no listeners, no friends,

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no loved ones, just wet, wet mud.

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Speaker 1: Righte brings out the best insults I've ever heard from

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Mary you Kojima. Jerking ship stain. That is good, triple

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a jerking ship stain.

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Speaker 2: My fucking games this year. I am not that this

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is just an inaccurate thing you're throwing me out.

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Speaker 3: I'm completely reasonable, and it's even more they.

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Speaker 1: Have to talk to me, says the trip like games.

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You saw that.

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Speaker 2: That's right, we're all.

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Speaker 3: Probably doing it out. Yep, yep, the wheelhouse.

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Speaker 2: Let me see my current top top ten of twenty

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twenty five. Here, let's see we got toilet not in

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order or anything. Actually loutly okay. Monster Train two is

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very good. Expedition thirty three, Shinobi, Bionic Bay, Pipastrello and

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the Curse Yo Yo.

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Speaker 3: I know in love Indies, I bet you didn't finish

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Pipistrello and the Curse yoyo, you little bitch.

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Speaker 1: You're right.

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Speaker 3: I know you didn't. You're right because I know how

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hard it is, because I've put like thirty five hours

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into it, and I bet you're the kind of person

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that plays an indie game and goes, that was a

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great eight hours. And now I will just look at

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Kojima's picture and touch myself, and I know that you

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did not even finish Wheel World until I told you,

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because you thought you did and you didn't finish it.

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Speaker 2: Right about that. I finished indie games all the time.

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Speaker 1: I beat you.

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Speaker 2: We'll get to it, but I beat you.

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Speaker 3: Finish time Flies.

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Speaker 2: That's not I guess not really. It's made by Sega,

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but you, stupid bitch, was published by Sega.

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Speaker 1: No time Flies. I didn't be time Flies. Listen some games.

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Speaker 2: Look, I've been in this game a while, all right,

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I can look at again. Andy McNamara and the chief

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a game informer, used to look over her shoulders when

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we were playing a game and he's like, I've done

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this for so long, I'm gonna do my five minute review.

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He'd watch it for five minutes and be like, that's

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gonna get seven point five, and he was usually right.

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Speaker 1: I have noticed a men of a certain age in

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the video game industry loved. Okay, I'm not I'm not

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lumping you in, but Dan, I mean I am though, no, no, no,

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there is a certain there is a certain tier, not

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tier was the word I'm looking for you demographic of

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men in the industry who love to brag about that

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being able to see a pitch for a game and

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then saying the score it's gonna get.

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Speaker 2: Well, it is just true that at a certain point

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you do you've seen a lot, and you've seen a

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lot of things that look like certain things, and you

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can get a good sense of what a game's offering.

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Speaker 1: Score. So, uh, silks on.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, did you know right away that's song was going

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to be an iconic classic that, by the way, would

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like Mary? I thought, did you think what did you

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think about Hollow Night when you first played it?

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Speaker 1: Yeah?

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Speaker 2: I didn't like it, but I came around because to me.

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Speaker 3: Damia actually knows good games when he sees them. Maybe

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you're just not cut out for.

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Speaker 2: Breath the While when it came out, So I you know,

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anybody can can be wrong about stuff.

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Speaker 3: Maybe you should find a different wild Yeah.

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Speaker 2: Something I was going to say about Mary was berating me,

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who loves scenario.

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Speaker 3: Is so interested in supporting indies? Your favorite fucking games

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in all of our top ten game requests are Triple

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A games.

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Speaker 2: Mario Zelda Medal year, Yes, those are those are among

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the best games of all time. I think that's not

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a wild thing to say.

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Speaker 3: You're in the wrong starters.

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Speaker 1: The starters up.

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Speaker 3: There, get out of get out of my space. We

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have to convince you to play these not really don't

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start started?

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Speaker 2: No, No, I started for you. Probably I did.

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Speaker 3: I don't think you probably tweeted about it because you

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want everybody to talk to you about how fucking important

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you are. But I definitely played that game. First.

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Speaker 2: Why are you playing? Why are you playing Soak Song yet?

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I thought Kickstarter backers got to play it early. I

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thought you were a big fan.

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Speaker 3: They all get to play it at the same time,

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which is but.

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Speaker 2: They got it early. I thought the whole point was

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that they get it early.

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Speaker 3: No, you would know that if you were a fan.

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Speaker 1: You didn't.

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Speaker 2: You didn't contributed that tier.

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Speaker 3: I guess I don't need to. I am the biggest

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contributor in the world. In with my heart. I love

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that game. I will be awake tomorrow. I'm taking the

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day to play it.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, who's the mark? Now?

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Speaker 2: You haven't played this game?

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Speaker 1: In your serious.

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Speaker 3: Praises, I like to consider myself the Andy McNamara of

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indie games. And I can tell you very soon that

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that game is going to be a fucking ten each ship.

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Speaker 2: You know what, it will get tense. You're right, it

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will get tense. And I do believe that you will

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give it a ten if if you.

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Speaker 1: It sounds like sounds like you're you're kind of being

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a dan Ryker mark here like it can they could

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do anything they want with Silk Song and you give

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it a ten.

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Speaker 2: No, the pictures now of a little bug.

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Speaker 3: Guy, I think that it could turn anyway. But I

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believe in my heart of hearts that this is going

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to be a banger. But this is all gonna be

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like bad Air by the time this air, because the

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game will already be out right.

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Speaker 2: But you're that's that's what a safe bed, what a

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safe bet that it's going to be the sequel to

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this beloved game is going.

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Speaker 1: To be here anything ten out of ten. It's nine

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fifty Eastern, the night before anybody's playing this game. Yeah,

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I'm gonna go out a limit and say it's gonna

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be fine, and I'll probably be wrong with this episode

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goes up, But if I'm right, everybody's gonna say, look

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at Mike was right, He's the Andy McNamara of the

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Indie games.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, they will so playing. You're playing all the time,

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and Dan must a loser. But Mike, if I can

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just address you for a second, I feel like this

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is a really good bet that you might be right

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and I might be right. And Dan was just in

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the room, probably farting.

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Speaker 1: Well.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I think it's going to be an eight point

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seventy five. That's I think I would give the first

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one an eight point seventy five, and I think this

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is gonna be about the same.

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Speaker 1: Same scores residevils six.

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Speaker 3: I now i've.

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Speaker 2: Tim Turry bring up more game and former personnelities from

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twenty eleven.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, we're through half the staff. I'm good. I can't

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talk about my boss, no, just kidding. Just in case, Berts,

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if you're listening, I have nothing. Birt's knows everything.

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Speaker 3: I respect you as a man.

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Speaker 1: He knows a lot about bourbon.

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Speaker 3: Anyway, I was at Packs and I got invited to

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the Peak party, which is that game I like? And

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I was really excity invited to this, Dan, you haven't

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heard about.

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Speaker 1: It, sucking anyone you check the timestamps.

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Speaker 2: I got the email about Peak and I immediately when

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the Discordan, I said, we gotta stream this. This sounds great,

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stream before anyone before you, Mary.

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Speaker 3: This is like some bad art. Yeah, there was like

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a huge smelly wind. So I was playing. I went

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to the Peak party and it was really smart. When

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you walk in, they gave everybody sashes, and then there

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was different ways to get pins by doing things at

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the party, like stealing their merch or getting a drink

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at the bar, and then the bartender would give you

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a pin that had drink on it to add to

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your sash, just like they do in the game, which

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is really cute. And I think there.

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Speaker 1: Pins are like a big packs pastime too, right they are.

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Speaker 3: I mean I think these were like kind of rudimentary pins.

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They weren't like those really nice coveted packs pins. But

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nonetheless it was like a cute idea.

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Speaker 1: Oh no, that's what I'm saying. It seems it's on theme,

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several theme, and.

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Speaker 3: They just kind of made an active effort to make

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it a silly, cheeky thing to experience. There were eight

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pins and one of them was, uh to find uh,

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what's that stupid thing in uh? Oh bing bong? Uh

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to find bingbong in the game. Now for people who

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actually played the game and aren't just like trying to

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pretend that they play the game, Bingbong is this like

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green little uh fish frog that you can pick up

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in the very beginning of the game and you can

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actually carry him with you. Fun lore for people who

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actually know indie games is that the devs used to

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actually talk to players through Bingbong and like listen to them,

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only if it was a public game. They weren't like

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listening to your children. But like if you were live

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streaming Peak and you were like hi, bing Bong, bing Bong,

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as a dev would come back and be like hi,

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and like actually talk to them, which is very funny

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and cheeky. Anyway, the last button was find Bingo Bingbong,

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and I couldn't find this little thing anywhere. I looked

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all over the party, like went to all the different

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corners of this space. I couldn't find it. And then

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I've been at this party for like an hour, having

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a couple drinks, getting a little getting little sauce, and

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the dev comes on the mic to say to everybody,

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thank you so much for coming to this party. You

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know this is a humble team. I think this team

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is literally a Baker's dozen. It's a very small group

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and they make multiple games, so only a portion of

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the team made Peak. This is a small group of

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people who made this like monumental, awesome game. He's like

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being super thankful, and he's like, I have a treat

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for you, guys. My girlfriend handmade the cake and she's

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gonna bring it out right now, and everyone's like, oh

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my gosh, that's so cute, and me, with my like

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drunk gamer brain, I'm like, where's this fucking last thing

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so I can get my final eighth pin. And as

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they walk out with this cake, it's in these like

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it looks like she cake boxes, right, like really nice

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rectangular boxes of cake. There's like four of them, so

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it's a big ass cake. And as they walk out,

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they're all kind of like being careful about opening it,

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and I just say, at the top of my lungs,

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oh my god, it's the cake being bong And the

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good girlfriend looks at me and gives me the shush,

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and I realized that I had just spoiled her cake,

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and I.

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Speaker 1: Felt really bad yelled.

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Speaker 3: I yelled it like I would have screamed the karaoke

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song that I wanted to play. Next, I was out

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of my gourd and.

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Speaker 2: Someone doesn't respect Indy developers.

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Speaker 3: She handled it. She's not dead, she's a girlfriend, and

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she was very very nice about it.

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Speaker 1: But I felt.

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Speaker 3: Super guilty even about women. Jesus a nice girlfriend who

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made this cake and I ruined her moment, and so

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I felt kind of bad about that. The cake was.

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Speaker 1: Bingbong bingbong Gate twenty five, I know, and then I left.

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Speaker 2: That sounds like someone that doesn't respect Andy devs. Meanwhile,

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I have receipts over here on my birthday. Instead of

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out celebrating and stuff, I'm working. June sixteenth, I got

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an email at twelve pece him from Papa Gendas saying, hey,

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we're announcing and launching. Here's peek, here's some codes, and

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I said sold immediately streaming this going live at the

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top of the hour, and the publisher says, hope you enjoy.

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And I don't know if anyone's told you all this,

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but dang, you work fast. That's how fast I am

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to respect Indy developers. To do with the fact that.

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Speaker 1: You'd be one of the first people streaming and guaranteed

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to pull view it looks like, don't nobody know about

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this yet? I was.

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Speaker 2: I was a trstmaker.

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Speaker 3: So you don't make money off of your streams.

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Speaker 2: I mean not directly, really, not exactly, not direct Mary.

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Speaker 1: You were for the company that allows him to stream.

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Oh weirder here.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, we've all agreed that Mike is the only innocent

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on this entire show.

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Speaker 1: I've been replaying a game called Red Dead Redemption two.

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Speaker 2: Mister Indy.

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Speaker 1: Law low honor, give me your one. It's a weird.

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Speaker 2: We started telling about video games too early. Mary, What

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do you do?

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Speaker 1: She mentioned packs, and there's nothing.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I did pas, I did the the nice party I.

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Speaker 1: Did nineteen ninety seven, Barbarisco from Odero. No, no, go

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back and talk to yell at me about games.

472
00:22:22,119 --> 00:22:26,720
Speaker 3: Okay, let's look at Dan's chat Twitch history because it's

473
00:22:26,759 --> 00:22:30,680
so important to him to support indies. Uh, Donkey Kong Bonanza,

474
00:22:31,000 --> 00:22:36,440
classic indie game, the Legend of Zelda, Breath of the Wild. Uh,

475
00:22:36,720 --> 00:22:38,960
just chatting, that's just you looking at your own stupid

476
00:22:38,960 --> 00:22:43,400
face for like two weeks. Gears Judgment with Kayla, you.

477
00:22:43,759 --> 00:22:49,440
Speaker 2: Bitch, I am looking recently streamed. Uh is this seat taken?

478
00:22:49,559 --> 00:22:52,759
You skipped over that one weird Huh. I love that

479
00:22:53,640 --> 00:23:00,279
rage Bound Wrestling, Empyer's sunder Folk time flies. Uh jammer me,

480
00:23:01,240 --> 00:23:01,720
I'm all.

481
00:23:01,559 --> 00:23:03,000
Speaker 1: Over the place, sunder.

482
00:23:04,480 --> 00:23:05,519
Speaker 2: It wouldn't really for me.

483
00:23:05,880 --> 00:23:06,680
Speaker 1: Okay, that's the.

484
00:23:06,640 --> 00:23:09,200
Speaker 3: Second portion of the show. We're not there yet.

485
00:23:09,640 --> 00:23:14,680
Speaker 1: I didn't start this. Uh looks good. Oh yeah, no

486
00:23:14,759 --> 00:23:16,880
this I'm just gonna say, why, yeah, why did you

487
00:23:16,920 --> 00:23:21,880
play Sunderfolk? It was a stream Gian bond Oh okay, gotcha.

488
00:23:22,119 --> 00:23:24,920
Yeah yeah, I quit after like five minutes.

489
00:23:25,079 --> 00:23:27,599
Speaker 2: I figured, like actively like bailed on the stream.

490
00:23:27,720 --> 00:23:29,119
Speaker 3: I do think we talked about this.

491
00:23:29,279 --> 00:23:30,960
Speaker 1: We Uh.

492
00:23:31,240 --> 00:23:33,160
Speaker 3: I guess this is the second area. But yeah, I

493
00:23:33,200 --> 00:23:36,960
did do some recommendations that Mike recommended, which is cool.

494
00:23:37,319 --> 00:23:38,119
Speaker 1: Really save this.

495
00:23:38,359 --> 00:23:41,119
Speaker 3: Yeah, I never do your recommendations, and I did.

496
00:23:41,440 --> 00:23:43,200
Speaker 1: Oh, I don't ever recommend stuff to you because you

497
00:23:43,200 --> 00:23:45,359
are already like you're you're already playing cool stuff, like

498
00:23:45,359 --> 00:23:46,920
you know where the diamonds in the rough are? Dan,

499
00:23:47,039 --> 00:23:48,839
I have to like kind of like help them sift through.

500
00:23:49,480 --> 00:23:53,720
Speaker 2: Oh my god, consulted. I'm the veteran here.

501
00:23:54,920 --> 00:23:55,880
Speaker 3: You are the oldest.

502
00:23:56,359 --> 00:24:03,440
Speaker 1: That's right, I've been, I've done. Yeah, I saw we

503
00:24:03,480 --> 00:24:08,200
talked about weapons. What else is new State Fair? When

504
00:24:08,200 --> 00:24:11,759
you were here, Mike, the State Fair. I grew up

505
00:24:11,799 --> 00:24:13,440
in the town where the New York State Fair is held,

506
00:24:13,440 --> 00:24:17,200
and that's like one of the best. Minnesota is the biggest, biggest,

507
00:24:17,240 --> 00:24:19,240
but not the best. There's a difference. See, you would

508
00:24:19,279 --> 00:24:22,000
understand indie games don't have to be that big to

509
00:24:22,039 --> 00:24:25,759
be the best. Sorry, how was the State Fair? That

510
00:24:25,799 --> 00:24:26,200
was very good?

511
00:24:26,559 --> 00:24:27,519
Speaker 2: Honey, pizza balls.

512
00:24:27,960 --> 00:24:29,880
Speaker 3: You ate a lot of shit, didn't you. I saw

513
00:24:29,880 --> 00:24:32,119
your Instagram updates and it was just like fried food

514
00:24:32,160 --> 00:24:34,160
on a stick, fried food on a plate, fried food

515
00:24:34,200 --> 00:24:35,880
in my hands, fried food in my face.

516
00:24:36,119 --> 00:24:37,759
Speaker 2: I mean that was like I've maybe took pictures of

517
00:24:37,799 --> 00:24:40,440
like three of the you know, ten things I ate in.

518
00:24:40,680 --> 00:24:43,839
Speaker 3: My favorite thing that you took a photo of was

519
00:24:44,480 --> 00:24:46,839
all you can drink milk for three dollars.

520
00:24:47,200 --> 00:24:49,839
Speaker 2: That's a fucked up thing that's always there. I've never

521
00:24:49,920 --> 00:24:52,359
once done it. It's just seems insane to me because

522
00:24:52,400 --> 00:24:55,400
like most of the State Fair is like in the August,

523
00:24:56,039 --> 00:24:58,839
so that's just crazy in August to be drinking any milk,

524
00:24:58,920 --> 00:25:01,200
much less all you can drink. But I've never touched that.

525
00:25:01,759 --> 00:25:07,000
Speaker 1: What is the weird Yeah, what's the weird thing? Minnesota?

526
00:25:07,480 --> 00:25:12,319
Soft served beer, soft served raspberry beer. Had that was delicious.

527
00:25:12,400 --> 00:25:14,599
Speaker 2: It's just actual beer and it's in the form of

528
00:25:14,640 --> 00:25:17,960
ice cream and uh it's it's got a cone and everything.

529
00:25:18,079 --> 00:25:19,880
Speaker 1: It was fantastic. It was great.

530
00:25:19,880 --> 00:25:23,599
Speaker 3: That sounds great beer. How come not like a grain alcohol,

531
00:25:23,880 --> 00:25:24,119
you know?

532
00:25:24,720 --> 00:25:26,519
Speaker 2: I mean it's it's a brewery that makes it and

533
00:25:26,519 --> 00:25:29,079
they like it's not even like there's no dairy or anything.

534
00:25:29,079 --> 00:25:30,680
It's just straight up just I don't know how they

535
00:25:30,720 --> 00:25:32,799
do the science or anything, but it's it is just

536
00:25:33,000 --> 00:25:34,680
beer in cone form that you lick.

537
00:25:36,039 --> 00:25:39,359
Speaker 1: There's a there's a bar in Stockholm that does a

538
00:25:39,480 --> 00:25:42,880
sour with like soft serve into it or like a

539
00:25:42,880 --> 00:25:44,799
slushy into it. It was one of the most delicious

540
00:25:44,799 --> 00:25:48,839
things I've ever had. Nice. It was something Witch's hat

541
00:25:48,960 --> 00:25:52,960
in in Swedish. Forget what the actual name was because

542
00:25:52,960 --> 00:25:57,200
I don't speak Swedish. But it was delicious. But uh yeah,

543
00:25:57,240 --> 00:25:59,680
I had a little lot of good wine recently. I

544
00:25:59,680 --> 00:26:02,000
want to a place. If you're ever in New York

545
00:26:02,039 --> 00:26:03,440
and looking for a place, I might have mentioned this

546
00:26:03,440 --> 00:26:05,119
when someone was looking for recommendtion. There's a place called

547
00:26:05,160 --> 00:26:08,599
lay Lai in Chinatown. One of the most unique places

548
00:26:08,599 --> 00:26:11,200
in New York. It's on Doyer Street, which is pedestrian only.

549
00:26:11,480 --> 00:26:13,559
A lot of cool murals everywhere, and there's like two

550
00:26:14,920 --> 00:26:19,759
rad cocktail bars. Speakeasy vibes but not like overwrought speakeasy trendy,

551
00:26:19,880 --> 00:26:24,599
but just actual old school New York bars. But go

552
00:26:24,640 --> 00:26:27,960
to Lay it's ty tiny or two table, two four

553
00:26:28,039 --> 00:26:29,799
tops in the middle and then like six two tops

554
00:26:29,799 --> 00:26:32,839
around the edges. Really good wine program, but the food's amazing.

555
00:26:32,839 --> 00:26:37,839
It's Chinese style small plates, one of the most like yeah,

556
00:26:37,880 --> 00:26:41,759
but like more Chinese like. They have a they're doing

557
00:26:41,839 --> 00:26:46,880
like a beef carpascio kind of thing but with like umami,

558
00:26:46,960 --> 00:26:51,519
sesame oil and uh like fresh basil on top. It's

559
00:26:51,519 --> 00:26:53,359
one we got like three extra plates after we did

560
00:26:53,400 --> 00:26:56,079
the first one. They got amazing short ribs. Their desserts

561
00:26:56,079 --> 00:26:59,400
are all incredible. They're early like pickled dishes to start

562
00:27:00,079 --> 00:27:02,640
are phenomenal as well. Just a really cool place if

563
00:27:02,799 --> 00:27:04,240
people are in New York and want to look for

564
00:27:04,440 --> 00:27:06,720
their reservations can be tough, but if you put your

565
00:27:06,799 --> 00:27:09,240
name in. There's a cocktail bar called Appa Tech right

566
00:27:09,279 --> 00:27:11,799
next door, and then there's another one called The River

567
00:27:11,920 --> 00:27:13,400
right up the streets, so there's plenty of place to

568
00:27:13,440 --> 00:27:16,319
wait if you get like an hour wait or whatever. Nice.

569
00:27:16,480 --> 00:27:17,759
That was my weekend last weekend.

570
00:27:18,200 --> 00:27:20,359
Speaker 2: Yeah, we were kind of talking before we recorded about

571
00:27:20,400 --> 00:27:22,359
a Game of the Year this year, and you know,

572
00:27:22,480 --> 00:27:24,920
currently looking at possibly doing it here in Minnesota again

573
00:27:25,079 --> 00:27:27,359
and going to do our fancy Friday dinner and we'd

574
00:27:27,400 --> 00:27:30,680
love to do Dario again. But then Saturday morning, hungover

575
00:27:30,759 --> 00:27:33,079
after the show, if you guys fly out late enough,

576
00:27:33,359 --> 00:27:35,680
finding more awesome burger places around here. There's this place

577
00:27:35,680 --> 00:27:37,079
called Bull's Horn. I want to take you to.

578
00:27:37,160 --> 00:27:38,160
Speaker 3: It's incredible burger.

579
00:27:38,480 --> 00:27:38,960
Speaker 1: Yeah, so I.

580
00:27:38,880 --> 00:27:41,759
Speaker 2: Think fancy Friday night, then we'll do all our bullshit,

581
00:27:42,039 --> 00:27:43,599
the Game of the Year stuff, and then I'll take

582
00:27:43,599 --> 00:27:44,720
you out some greasy shit.

583
00:27:44,880 --> 00:27:45,400
Speaker 1: It'd be great.

584
00:27:45,680 --> 00:27:47,839
Speaker 3: Well, we loved the greasy shit last time when we

585
00:27:47,920 --> 00:27:50,279
had the burger with the cheese on the molten lava

586
00:27:50,359 --> 00:27:51,480
on the endside.

587
00:27:51,200 --> 00:27:53,440
Speaker 2: Juicy lucy and then we had Lions Tap too before

588
00:27:53,480 --> 00:27:54,960
we h yeah.

589
00:27:54,960 --> 00:27:56,160
Speaker 3: Place, Yeah, that place was good.

590
00:27:56,759 --> 00:27:59,720
Speaker 2: I'm becoming like a connoisseur of like the dive burger

591
00:27:59,759 --> 00:28:02,079
place around here, Like you know, the Juicy Loose is

592
00:28:02,079 --> 00:28:04,160
the famous one, but like I just keep finding new

593
00:28:04,160 --> 00:28:05,720
places that have amazing burgers around.

594
00:28:05,799 --> 00:28:08,160
Speaker 3: I think mom and pop diners are important. There's a

595
00:28:08,319 --> 00:28:11,720
staple of America. And when people like actually come and

596
00:28:11,799 --> 00:28:14,000
visit me and they're like, I want to see some

597
00:28:14,200 --> 00:28:17,319
just like classic Americana culture, I'm like, I'm taking you

598
00:28:17,359 --> 00:28:21,160
to Tom's the diner, where half of it is a

599
00:28:21,200 --> 00:28:23,920
place where you can get a cheeseburger or breakfast all

600
00:28:24,039 --> 00:28:26,359
day long, and the other half is where you can

601
00:28:26,400 --> 00:28:29,160
bet on horses. And that's just the type of place

602
00:28:29,200 --> 00:28:33,559
this is. I like good that like slice of life space,

603
00:28:33,839 --> 00:28:36,839
and I think that's like, I don't know, the things

604
00:28:36,839 --> 00:28:40,240
that break my heart the most is chain restaurants that

605
00:28:40,319 --> 00:28:42,160
have no heart or soul at all.

606
00:28:42,599 --> 00:28:45,000
Speaker 2: They have their place too, you know, like I think,

607
00:28:45,000 --> 00:28:47,200
but I'm mainly thinking of like you know, fast food

608
00:28:47,240 --> 00:28:49,319
places like just garbage, you know, McDonald's and Taco Bell

609
00:28:49,359 --> 00:28:51,720
and stuff. But ultimately, the things I feel fondest of

610
00:28:52,160 --> 00:28:54,000
are these little like mom and pop you know, like

611
00:28:54,039 --> 00:28:56,319
a lion's tap or bull's horn, these little places that

612
00:28:56,359 --> 00:28:58,240
you like when your friends are in town, your family's

613
00:28:58,240 --> 00:28:59,400
in towns, Like I got to show you this if

614
00:28:59,400 --> 00:28:59,799
you're in town.

615
00:29:00,200 --> 00:29:03,680
Speaker 3: But that's important, right, Like I agree like Wendy's has

616
00:29:03,720 --> 00:29:06,119
its place, but it's like on a road trip because

617
00:29:06,119 --> 00:29:09,319
I need something. When people come and visit me, I

618
00:29:09,440 --> 00:29:11,960
take them to the diner that I always go to

619
00:29:12,359 --> 00:29:16,319
that has like the greasiest hash Browns you've ever fucking seen.

620
00:29:17,000 --> 00:29:19,119
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, I think I think that's right. I will

621
00:29:19,160 --> 00:29:22,480
want the fast food bullshit more than most people, but

622
00:29:22,599 --> 00:29:25,160
I would never say that, like, oh, a McDonald's quarter

623
00:29:25,160 --> 00:29:27,160
pounder is better than these other places I like going to,

624
00:29:27,240 --> 00:29:29,720
you know, but sometimes you just want the obvious and

625
00:29:29,920 --> 00:29:33,160
convenient and you know, deliverers and all that stuff, and uh,

626
00:29:33,880 --> 00:29:34,640
there's a place for that.

627
00:29:36,279 --> 00:29:40,240
Speaker 1: I still have yet to see the Naked Gun. Oh,

628
00:29:40,319 --> 00:29:42,279
I still have yet to see. Twenty eight years.

629
00:29:42,160 --> 00:29:44,079
Speaker 2: Later, I saw nad Gun.

630
00:29:44,480 --> 00:29:46,720
Speaker 3: Yeah, I saw Naked Gun in one of those cool

631
00:29:46,839 --> 00:29:49,400
theaters where they like serve you dinner and like the

632
00:29:49,440 --> 00:29:53,279
seats are basically like really nice reclining leather chairs. I've

633
00:29:53,279 --> 00:29:57,160
never done that before. Yeah, it's kind of It was

634
00:29:57,200 --> 00:30:01,200
even like more insane. It was like a small theater

635
00:30:01,279 --> 00:30:04,799
that only had I'm gonna say sixteen seats, and each

636
00:30:04,839 --> 00:30:08,000
seat was different, so some were like reclining leather chairs,

637
00:30:08,119 --> 00:30:11,000
some were straight up couches, but they were all very

638
00:30:11,039 --> 00:30:13,359
comfy and cozy, and they all had a little table,

639
00:30:13,559 --> 00:30:17,079
and the expectation it was not just like a we

640
00:30:17,160 --> 00:30:19,920
have dinner. The expectation is that if you will get

641
00:30:19,920 --> 00:30:22,440
a movie there, you are supposed to order dinner.

642
00:30:22,599 --> 00:30:24,880
Speaker 2: That sounds like you know, two drink minimum, comedy clubs

643
00:30:24,880 --> 00:30:26,240
and stuff like. That's that's been crazy.

644
00:30:26,319 --> 00:30:29,680
Speaker 3: Yeah, And I thought it was the perfect environment for

645
00:30:29,720 --> 00:30:32,599
the Naked Gun because like, I got a big ass

646
00:30:32,640 --> 00:30:34,720
bucket of popcorn and I got one of their like

647
00:30:34,799 --> 00:30:40,839
appetizer platters, so like it had like chicken tendies, fried shrimp,

648
00:30:41,200 --> 00:30:45,920
it had jalapeno poppers, it had fries. It even had

649
00:30:45,960 --> 00:30:49,400
like a small plate of nachos in a sampler. Hello.

650
00:30:49,759 --> 00:30:52,960
And so I'm just like snacking on eight different types

651
00:30:53,000 --> 00:30:58,000
of cuisine whilst Liam Nielsen is doing the best singers

652
00:30:58,039 --> 00:31:00,599
I've ever seen. I even text a few to you

653
00:31:00,599 --> 00:31:02,480
because I was like, these are such good jokes, so

654
00:31:02,519 --> 00:31:03,119
many good.

655
00:31:02,960 --> 00:31:05,519
Speaker 2: Ones, and the one you texted me like that movie

656
00:31:05,559 --> 00:31:07,640
has so many that the one you texted me, I

657
00:31:07,640 --> 00:31:08,960
was like, oh fuck, I forgot about that one. That

658
00:31:08,960 --> 00:31:12,559
one's incredible, And so overall you're high on it.

659
00:31:13,400 --> 00:31:16,359
Speaker 3: I think it's great. I think it's it's very smart

660
00:31:16,359 --> 00:31:18,880
for what it's doing. And I also think around the

661
00:31:18,880 --> 00:31:20,839
time where I was like, I feel like they've done

662
00:31:20,880 --> 00:31:23,039
these jokes enough. The movie was over.

663
00:31:23,359 --> 00:31:24,799
Speaker 2: Yeah, and it doesn't never say it's welcome.

664
00:31:24,920 --> 00:31:27,440
Speaker 3: It's a perfect length. It should not have been any longer.

665
00:31:27,559 --> 00:31:31,960
I think it would have started irking me, but it

666
00:31:32,119 --> 00:31:34,240
new to end and then it was great. So I

667
00:31:34,240 --> 00:31:36,799
think it's actually fantastic because it I mean, you'd.

668
00:31:36,559 --> 00:31:40,119
Speaker 2: Get exhausted just the sheer like machine gun pace of the.

669
00:31:40,119 --> 00:31:41,799
Speaker 3: Joke per minute is insane.

670
00:31:42,279 --> 00:31:44,440
Speaker 2: Yes, yes, there's not like twenty or thirty seconds to

671
00:31:44,480 --> 00:31:46,079
go by without something, so like I think to go

672
00:31:46,240 --> 00:31:48,680
any past that, like hour thirty, I think you'd be

673
00:31:48,759 --> 00:31:51,559
risking that, and they knew how to be economical with it.

674
00:31:51,920 --> 00:31:55,119
Speaker 3: I'm also a huge fan of physical comedy that's in

675
00:31:55,160 --> 00:31:58,680
the background. It's not ever addressed, it's not written. There's

676
00:31:58,759 --> 00:32:01,000
just a sign in the background that's funny, or there's

677
00:32:01,039 --> 00:32:05,720
a guy that's like slipping. There's there's so much visual

678
00:32:05,839 --> 00:32:09,160
gag that you might not even realize, like you were

679
00:32:09,160 --> 00:32:11,160
saying on your first watch through that you'll probably have

680
00:32:11,200 --> 00:32:14,799
to watch again a lot of coffee humor that I

681
00:32:14,839 --> 00:32:16,839
just thought was very funny throughout.

682
00:32:16,680 --> 00:32:18,000
Speaker 2: The Coffee Bitch really really good.

683
00:32:18,079 --> 00:32:20,319
Speaker 3: Yeah, very funny, like a lot of uh you know

684
00:32:21,000 --> 00:32:23,160
cop tropes is where the jokes that they were.

685
00:32:23,200 --> 00:32:26,039
Speaker 2: The body cam stuff was incredible when they're like watching

686
00:32:26,119 --> 00:32:28,240
him throughout the days you fast forward a little more.

687
00:32:28,160 --> 00:32:32,960
Speaker 3: Like it's constantly getting tirea and we're back to the butt.

688
00:32:33,640 --> 00:32:35,720
Speaker 2: Mike, Mike, you will like this movie a lot.

689
00:32:37,359 --> 00:32:40,880
Speaker 1: Sending Dan clips where someone edited fart noises into the

690
00:32:41,000 --> 00:32:43,880
Michael Keaton Batman the Other Day is good. Yeah. My

691
00:32:43,920 --> 00:32:45,480
wife walked it. Like the first thing in the morning,

692
00:32:45,519 --> 00:32:47,160
I was watching in the kitchen while I made coffee.

693
00:32:47,200 --> 00:32:48,680
My my wife walked in and he's like, what are

694
00:32:48,720 --> 00:32:51,240
you watching? Like, no, I think you wouldn't like She's like,

695
00:32:51,319 --> 00:32:53,880
show me and then it's just Michael Keaton like when

696
00:32:53,920 --> 00:32:57,000
they turn their heads like him and icle kidman.

697
00:32:57,599 --> 00:33:00,440
Speaker 2: No, she was in forever. It was a basing her

698
00:33:00,519 --> 00:33:04,200
was yeah. Yeah, yeah, it was a good part to editing.

699
00:33:05,480 --> 00:33:09,200
Speaker 1: But I am curious have either of you seen Hard

700
00:33:09,200 --> 00:33:10,680
Ticket to Hawaii.

701
00:33:11,079 --> 00:33:13,839
Speaker 2: Like three or four times? You have, most recently like

702
00:33:13,920 --> 00:33:14,559
six months ago.

703
00:33:14,640 --> 00:33:19,359
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's a low budget action movie but like cult

704
00:33:19,480 --> 00:33:22,799
B movie so bad. It's good, but you might have

705
00:33:22,839 --> 00:33:29,319
seen comedy. Uh it's lightly but like mainly unintentioned, not intentional.

706
00:33:29,400 --> 00:33:32,640
Speaker 2: Okay, yeah, okay, it's like a bunch of playmates, uh

707
00:33:32,759 --> 00:33:36,960
doing like an action movie in Hawaii. Clearly like pervy

708
00:33:36,960 --> 00:33:38,200
producer guy put this together.

709
00:33:39,000 --> 00:33:43,160
Speaker 1: I think it's I think it's like nice when after

710
00:33:43,240 --> 00:33:45,319
we've come back from our fancy dinner before, give me

711
00:33:45,359 --> 00:33:48,920
your material potential watch with Jake and us.

712
00:33:49,319 --> 00:33:52,799
Speaker 2: Incredible theme song, incredible practical effects on the snake.

713
00:33:53,519 --> 00:33:56,119
Speaker 1: Yeah, yes, very You might have seen a clip on

714
00:33:56,160 --> 00:33:59,160
Instagram or something mary involving a guy on a skateboard

715
00:33:59,279 --> 00:34:02,920
with a sex doll and Bazuka as a reaction to that.

716
00:34:04,079 --> 00:34:06,279
Speaker 3: Yeah, everybody knows that scene.

717
00:34:06,440 --> 00:34:12,159
Speaker 2: Frisbee pop up. Yeah, it's very good. What what drew

718
00:34:12,239 --> 00:34:12,599
you to this?

719
00:34:13,000 --> 00:34:13,239
Speaker 1: Yeah?

720
00:34:13,239 --> 00:34:14,280
Speaker 3: Why are we talking about this?

721
00:34:15,079 --> 00:34:18,199
Speaker 1: I watched it on A I had seen clips of

722
00:34:18,239 --> 00:34:20,079
it and I was trying to sort I had a

723
00:34:20,119 --> 00:34:21,800
red eye back from l A and I'm like, I

724
00:34:21,840 --> 00:34:24,079
got to watch something that's like just gonna breathe new

725
00:34:24,079 --> 00:34:26,480
life into me. So my friend's like, as a joke,

726
00:34:26,519 --> 00:34:29,320
apparently told me to watch Hard Ticket to Hawaii and.

727
00:34:29,239 --> 00:34:32,079
Speaker 2: I was it on like the Delta selection.

728
00:34:32,119 --> 00:34:34,599
Speaker 1: Download it on my phone okay, and then watched it

729
00:34:34,760 --> 00:34:37,679
like on the way back, and then went to sleep

730
00:34:37,719 --> 00:34:40,239
on the Red Eye and then woke up and heard

731
00:34:40,239 --> 00:34:43,960
Ticket twice. Somehow felt like I had dreamt it because

732
00:34:44,000 --> 00:34:46,800
it's so weird in some spots and surreal, but it's

733
00:34:46,840 --> 00:34:47,400
worth watching.

734
00:34:47,559 --> 00:34:49,480
Speaker 2: It's on a streamer that you can download. Like, I

735
00:34:49,519 --> 00:34:51,320
feel like that was just like something you'd find on

736
00:34:51,400 --> 00:34:52,239
YouTube or something.

737
00:34:52,320 --> 00:34:54,960
Speaker 1: No, it was like, uh it was I got it

738
00:34:54,960 --> 00:34:58,119
through other avenues. But yeah, the whole movie is just

739
00:34:58,159 --> 00:35:01,079
on YouTube. Yeah yeah, yeah, that might have actually been it.

740
00:35:01,159 --> 00:35:04,000
But it's worth Maybe we should watch it a game

741
00:35:04,000 --> 00:35:07,000
of the year. It's just's I found it, Uh, I

742
00:35:07,039 --> 00:35:08,159
found it amusing.

743
00:35:08,599 --> 00:35:11,079
Speaker 3: I do like when we watch movies as a group

744
00:35:11,119 --> 00:35:14,719
that someone recommends and feels really strongly about, similarly to

745
00:35:14,760 --> 00:35:17,679
like video game recommendations, where it's like listen, even if

746
00:35:17,719 --> 00:35:20,000
I don't feel the same as you, it's something awesome

747
00:35:20,039 --> 00:35:22,400
that we get to talk about and share together. But

748
00:35:22,440 --> 00:35:25,199
a movie is just like solo stakes. Do you show

749
00:35:25,239 --> 00:35:27,000
me a movie and you're like, I loved this and

750
00:35:27,039 --> 00:35:29,639
I think it's a piece of shit. That's not a problem.

751
00:35:29,760 --> 00:35:31,559
That is like not a big sacrifice for me to

752
00:35:31,559 --> 00:35:34,119
spend two hours and be like, let's see this thing

753
00:35:34,480 --> 00:35:36,119
that you feel so strongly about.

754
00:35:36,480 --> 00:35:38,719
Speaker 2: But when we're all together, I remember last time, it's

755
00:35:38,760 --> 00:35:41,199
like our time is so packed when we do Game

756
00:35:41,199 --> 00:35:43,519
of the Year that we were like, Jake hasn't seen

757
00:35:43,559 --> 00:35:44,079
Face Off.

758
00:35:44,079 --> 00:35:45,280
Speaker 1: We got to put Face Off off.

759
00:35:45,440 --> 00:35:51,239
Speaker 3: He fell asleep, Yes, didn't the record. We know, Dan

760
00:35:51,360 --> 00:35:53,039
picked your nose for like a minute.

761
00:35:53,159 --> 00:35:55,519
Speaker 2: Oh right, that was the nose picking. Yeah, yeah, but

762
00:35:55,960 --> 00:35:58,239
seeing it, Jake hadn't seen it. How do you fall

763
00:35:58,280 --> 00:36:01,519
asleep during a movie that starts with the sniper assassination

764
00:36:01,599 --> 00:36:03,039
of a child on a Merry Go Round?

765
00:36:03,239 --> 00:36:06,119
Speaker 1: You fly from San Francisco and then drink four bottles

766
00:36:06,119 --> 00:36:07,159
of wine with your friends?

767
00:36:07,239 --> 00:36:09,159
Speaker 2: Actually I guess yeah, probably.

768
00:36:10,559 --> 00:36:16,360
Speaker 1: Who is a dwee mane sorry wee Maine.

769
00:36:16,480 --> 00:36:19,119
Speaker 2: It's like I knew that for like a sleeper agent,

770
00:36:19,119 --> 00:36:19,719
like tweet Maine.

771
00:36:19,719 --> 00:36:20,440
Speaker 1: What does that mean? Though?

772
00:36:20,559 --> 00:36:20,719
Speaker 2: Right?

773
00:36:20,960 --> 00:36:25,280
Speaker 1: Just woke you up. We discovered that you could this

774
00:36:25,360 --> 00:36:27,519
is a very very esoteric part of the conversation. We

775
00:36:27,559 --> 00:36:29,519
discovered that you can you can get into the human

776
00:36:29,559 --> 00:36:31,800
cannon in the circus stage and shoot yourself at the

777
00:36:31,840 --> 00:36:33,800
other person and I killed Dan like that with Dweeb.

778
00:36:34,159 --> 00:36:39,199
Flying Monkey is the best game ever made. It shot

779
00:36:39,239 --> 00:36:42,360
a one Game of the Year every time we've done it.

780
00:36:42,360 --> 00:36:42,960
It almost did.

781
00:36:43,760 --> 00:36:43,960
Speaker 3: Uh.

782
00:36:44,000 --> 00:36:46,320
Speaker 1: Speaking of do you want to talk about video games? Sure?

783
00:36:47,679 --> 00:36:53,880
Speaker 3: Yeah, are you nodding again? Yes? I watched Slither, which

784
00:36:53,920 --> 00:36:55,920
is like one of my favorite horror movies the all time,

785
00:36:56,440 --> 00:37:00,599
and oh, okay, so sorry, let's keep going. This is

786
00:37:00,639 --> 00:37:03,960
like one of my favorite movies of all time when

787
00:37:03,960 --> 00:37:06,840
it comes to horror comedy, which is a genre I

788
00:37:06,880 --> 00:37:10,239
feel very strongly about. And I was okay. So I

789
00:37:10,360 --> 00:37:12,280
was like telling all my friends, you guys have to

790
00:37:12,280 --> 00:37:15,880
see Slither, just like right all along this conversation tone,

791
00:37:15,880 --> 00:37:17,440
and they were like, fine, let's watch it tonight together,

792
00:37:17,480 --> 00:37:18,760
and I was like, ooh, I hope they like it.

793
00:37:19,159 --> 00:37:22,079
And as it played, they were like, who made this anyway?

794
00:37:22,119 --> 00:37:24,000
And I was like, some unknown. I don't think he

795
00:37:24,039 --> 00:37:26,079
made anything else. I like didn't even think about it.

796
00:37:26,119 --> 00:37:27,400
And so at the very end of the movie, when

797
00:37:27,400 --> 00:37:30,280
everyone was like that was great, and James gunn name

798
00:37:30,360 --> 00:37:31,639
shows up, they all look at me and they go

799
00:37:32,320 --> 00:37:34,000
an unknown anywhere.

800
00:37:34,119 --> 00:37:34,719
Speaker 1: I forgot.

801
00:37:35,000 --> 00:37:36,800
Speaker 3: I forgot that he fucking made this.

802
00:37:37,039 --> 00:37:39,119
Speaker 1: He wasn't like a huge thing back then. You know,

803
00:37:39,360 --> 00:37:40,360
that was probably the person.

804
00:37:40,199 --> 00:37:44,159
Speaker 3: Who I think it's like his launch and and Mike

805
00:37:44,239 --> 00:37:47,079
it is very good. But anyway, there's this scene in it.

806
00:37:47,079 --> 00:37:49,199
It has a lot of actors like before they really

807
00:37:49,239 --> 00:37:52,440
pop off, and one of them is the girl from

808
00:37:52,480 --> 00:37:56,679
the office, uh, Jann Fisher, Jenna Fisher, And she also

809
00:37:56,719 --> 00:37:58,519
plays a secretary in this one.

810
00:37:58,679 --> 00:37:59,079
Speaker 1: And so.

811
00:38:00,599 --> 00:38:03,000
Speaker 3: They're calling her on the phone and asking her to

812
00:38:03,079 --> 00:38:05,760
call like the CDC or like the you know, the

813
00:38:05,800 --> 00:38:08,679
government or like somebody to get help because they're getting overrun.

814
00:38:09,519 --> 00:38:13,360
And she nods and he goes, are you nodding? And

815
00:38:13,400 --> 00:38:15,559
she goes, yeah, I'll get right on it. And that's

816
00:38:15,559 --> 00:38:17,440
like what I just did on this podcast was you

817
00:38:17,440 --> 00:38:18,960
guys said you want to talk about video games, and

818
00:38:19,000 --> 00:38:25,119
it went I forgot to say yes. Anyway, you should

819
00:38:25,119 --> 00:38:25,920
watch Slither, Mike.

820
00:38:26,000 --> 00:38:33,360
Speaker 1: Well, there is fantastic great Yes, Cools h Banker, the

821
00:38:33,400 --> 00:38:35,760
guy who's uh, the blue guy in.

822
00:38:37,440 --> 00:38:40,280
Speaker 2: Yeah, he's fucked up in that movie.

823
00:38:40,480 --> 00:38:43,000
Speaker 3: He's he they do him dirty in that movie. He

824
00:38:43,119 --> 00:38:45,920
is like so gross and they just keep making him gross.

825
00:38:45,920 --> 00:38:48,679
Speaker 2: Incredible practical effects and like there is some cg on

826
00:38:48,719 --> 00:38:50,320
like the slug things, but those look pretty cool.

827
00:38:50,960 --> 00:38:52,960
Speaker 1: It's it's a.

828
00:38:52,920 --> 00:38:54,639
Speaker 3: Good movie and it's funny.

829
00:38:54,920 --> 00:38:57,639
Speaker 1: Yes, yes, I'm trying to think. Have I liked anything

830
00:38:57,719 --> 00:38:59,280
James Gun has done?

831
00:38:59,519 --> 00:39:01,400
Speaker 2: You like, because he's like the one guy who does

832
00:39:01,440 --> 00:39:03,239
comic book stuff that I actually like. Like I like

833
00:39:03,320 --> 00:39:06,239
his suicide Squad like he uh and like I don't know,

834
00:39:06,320 --> 00:39:09,719
he's d C right, I know he doesn't do like

835
00:39:09,960 --> 00:39:10,599
did he do Marvel?

836
00:39:11,159 --> 00:39:12,719
Speaker 1: No, he did Guardians of the Galaxy Suicide?

837
00:39:12,719 --> 00:39:14,199
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, I saw that first Guardians of the Galaxy,

838
00:39:14,239 --> 00:39:15,960
and I every thinking that was actually pretty decent. So

839
00:39:16,000 --> 00:39:17,760
like I do like his stuff.

840
00:39:17,800 --> 00:39:20,480
Speaker 1: I think, yeah, yeah, Guardian of the Galaxy, the first

841
00:39:20,480 --> 00:39:22,159
one is fine. I just haven't the.

842
00:39:22,079 --> 00:39:24,880
Speaker 3: First one too. I think the second one's okay as well.

843
00:39:24,920 --> 00:39:27,119
But like, I don't know, I just I.

844
00:39:27,079 --> 00:39:29,960
Speaker 1: Just I'm another superhero person of the group.

845
00:39:30,119 --> 00:39:36,079
Speaker 3: No, I oh my god, gotta break.

846
00:39:35,199 --> 00:39:40,000
Speaker 2: Sorry about who's the most pro indie and anti anti super.

847
00:39:41,920 --> 00:39:50,119
Speaker 1: I'm an a superhero stuff games.

848
00:39:50,119 --> 00:39:52,880
Speaker 3: Elizabeth Banks not your type.

849
00:39:53,039 --> 00:39:54,559
Speaker 2: We have to expose him when we come back on

850
00:39:54,559 --> 00:39:55,159
the podcast.

851
00:39:55,920 --> 00:40:03,519
Speaker 1: You mean he's so attractive. Yeah, now, hey, folks, every

852
00:40:03,679 --> 00:40:05,440
woman is beautiful.

853
00:40:05,320 --> 00:40:09,199
Speaker 3: All allies think that Elizabeth Banks is a smoke show.

854
00:40:10,239 --> 00:40:13,119
Speaker 2: I mean, I think you'd have to be pretty wild

855
00:40:13,159 --> 00:40:15,840
to say she's not. And that is what Mike was saying.

856
00:40:16,679 --> 00:40:19,440
Speaker 1: Banks was not attractive. I said, I said, to be clear,

857
00:40:19,440 --> 00:40:22,119
I don't think she's unattractive. So she just reminds me

858
00:40:22,159 --> 00:40:24,000
of three of my cousins. And then Mary made fun

859
00:40:24,039 --> 00:40:24,599
of me.

860
00:40:26,199 --> 00:40:28,440
Speaker 3: He called her prawn Jason.

861
00:40:30,159 --> 00:40:32,159
Speaker 1: So you can see the everybody can see the context.

862
00:40:32,239 --> 00:40:35,639
Speaker 3: See what frauds you are disrespectful I.

863
00:40:35,599 --> 00:40:38,000
Speaker 1: Was speaking of, actually not speaking of. That's just what

864
00:40:38,079 --> 00:40:40,159
I say when I don't have a segue. Uh I

865
00:40:40,159 --> 00:40:43,079
think I mentioned. There's a cocktail bar in Paris called

866
00:40:43,119 --> 00:40:47,239
Little Red Door, and their household fashion has become quite

867
00:40:47,280 --> 00:40:51,840
a cult classic. It uses sabacha. I've been making my own.

868
00:40:51,960 --> 00:40:56,400
It's just buckwheat tea. Basically, it's fucking delicious. I haven't

869
00:40:56,440 --> 00:40:59,639
exactly figured out the perfect proportions because the old fashion

870
00:40:59,639 --> 00:41:03,159
is usually two ounces of whiskey, but I've been doing

871
00:41:03,280 --> 00:41:06,360
ounce and half whiskey, ounce and half of sabacha, really

872
00:41:06,400 --> 00:41:07,960
really good. If you want to try it out, you

873
00:41:07,960 --> 00:41:10,159
have to You probably have to make your own sabacha,

874
00:41:10,159 --> 00:41:12,760
though it requires roasting buckwheat groats.

875
00:41:13,320 --> 00:41:14,599
Speaker 2: I'm doing that usually for dinner.

876
00:41:14,679 --> 00:41:17,159
Speaker 1: So yeah, you might have to just set some aside.

877
00:41:17,360 --> 00:41:17,880
I do have to.

878
00:41:17,960 --> 00:41:21,239
Speaker 2: I got to figure out how to infuse turmeric for

879
00:41:21,320 --> 00:41:24,679
a cocktail in about a week. Confusing coconut milk. I

880
00:41:24,679 --> 00:41:29,199
gotta infuse coconut milk with turmeric. I think I coconut

881
00:41:29,280 --> 00:41:33,480
milk fat washing something? What are you washing something with

882
00:41:33,519 --> 00:41:35,719
the coconut milk, like the liquor. I no, I'm just

883
00:41:35,760 --> 00:41:37,960
looking at a cocktail I gotta make, and part of

884
00:41:38,000 --> 00:41:40,880
the thing is infusing it with Infusion's easy.

885
00:41:40,920 --> 00:41:43,000
Speaker 1: You literally just put in the required measurements and let

886
00:41:43,000 --> 00:41:44,840
it sit overnight or two nights.

887
00:41:45,880 --> 00:41:47,239
Speaker 2: Wait, I didn't know that was part. I thought I

888
00:41:47,280 --> 00:41:48,519
was put in a pan and do a thing.

889
00:41:49,440 --> 00:41:51,599
Speaker 1: I'm sure there are others, but like, if you're infusing

890
00:41:51,639 --> 00:41:52,760
a lot of stuff, you just let it.

891
00:41:53,119 --> 00:41:54,960
Speaker 2: I've just never had fire play a role in my

892
00:41:55,039 --> 00:41:56,400
cocktails before, so I know.

893
00:41:56,599 --> 00:41:59,480
Speaker 1: Yeah. I mean, if you make simple syrup, that's just no.

894
00:41:59,679 --> 00:42:00,440
I just by it.

895
00:42:02,079 --> 00:42:04,440
Speaker 3: You get simple, like the easiest one to make.

896
00:42:04,599 --> 00:42:11,519
Speaker 1: It's just simple sugar water. Yeah, what cocktail you're making

897
00:42:11,679 --> 00:42:13,960
with it was a cocktail that we had in New

898
00:42:14,079 --> 00:42:17,840
Orleans once and uh, it's called the anti oxid or

899
00:42:17,880 --> 00:42:20,480
the Anti Inflammatory, and it's this place called Saffron in

900
00:42:20,599 --> 00:42:23,599
New Orleans. And Bonk loved it, loved it, loved it.

901
00:42:23,639 --> 00:42:25,719
Speaker 2: But we were like we were we had to like

902
00:42:25,800 --> 00:42:28,119
slam it real quick to go to our dinner reservations

903
00:42:28,159 --> 00:42:30,000
next to her. And she's been thinking about it since then.

904
00:42:30,000 --> 00:42:31,039
So I'm going to try to make it for her

905
00:42:31,039 --> 00:42:32,000
for a break day next week.

906
00:42:32,079 --> 00:42:36,199
Speaker 1: So yeah, nice. I enjoy the cocktails that like take

907
00:42:36,239 --> 00:42:38,280
a lot of prep, like a few days, because then

908
00:42:38,360 --> 00:42:40,880
by the time you're done with it feels like you,

909
00:42:40,880 --> 00:42:43,920
you know, work towards something. Yeah.

910
00:42:43,960 --> 00:42:48,880
Speaker 2: Anyway, speaking of oh, he's gonna rant about how ugly

911
00:42:48,920 --> 00:42:52,880
he thinks, Elizabeth banks Is again said there he goes.

912
00:42:53,119 --> 00:42:56,079
Speaker 1: Uh, Mary talk. You played Tower Dominion.

913
00:42:56,480 --> 00:42:59,039
Speaker 3: Yeah, you recommended it, so I downloaded it.

914
00:42:59,320 --> 00:42:59,840
Speaker 1: What do you think.

915
00:43:00,360 --> 00:43:03,000
Speaker 3: I played it on a stream and I played that

916
00:43:03,079 --> 00:43:06,639
for like three hours, and I was like on the

917
00:43:06,639 --> 00:43:10,320
fence about it during the stream. Their boobs are large

918
00:43:10,360 --> 00:43:13,440
and round. But I just think visually it was hard

919
00:43:13,440 --> 00:43:17,639
for me to understand because it's hard. I think that's

920
00:43:17,639 --> 00:43:20,199
like the number one takeaway I had from my first

921
00:43:20,199 --> 00:43:22,119
three hours, which is like, what is why is this

922
00:43:22,159 --> 00:43:25,960
game so freaking hard? They would start me at a

923
00:43:26,039 --> 00:43:30,039
base with six entry points for aliens and give me

924
00:43:30,159 --> 00:43:33,760
like twenty bucks for a gun and be like good luck.

925
00:43:33,960 --> 00:43:38,639
And I died most of the time before my sixth round,

926
00:43:39,440 --> 00:43:42,599
and so I just kept dying. But towards the end

927
00:43:42,599 --> 00:43:45,320
of my live stream, I did end up once. I

928
00:43:45,360 --> 00:43:47,760
was able to get through that hurdle of those first

929
00:43:47,840 --> 00:43:50,159
six rounds and kind of come up with a strategy.

930
00:43:50,800 --> 00:43:52,880
And I think there's luck too. I just think there's

931
00:43:52,880 --> 00:43:53,320
straight up.

932
00:43:53,280 --> 00:43:55,639
Speaker 1: Some luck with your sand later difficulties when you have

933
00:43:55,679 --> 00:44:00,800
four entrances to sorry, four doors into your base.

934
00:44:01,079 --> 00:44:04,480
Speaker 3: Yes, and because that doesn't even include all the different entrances,

935
00:44:04,519 --> 00:44:08,360
because sometimes the door will have three entrances, so now

936
00:44:08,440 --> 00:44:11,800
one is three on the map. So brutal on the map.

937
00:44:13,320 --> 00:44:16,119
But I found that I was able to win once

938
00:44:16,199 --> 00:44:18,079
on my live stream, and I was like, that's nice.

939
00:44:18,159 --> 00:44:20,480
Maybe I'll play it again. Maybe I won't. And that

940
00:44:20,639 --> 00:44:23,639
night I went to a bar and I brought my

941
00:44:23,679 --> 00:44:26,320
steam decks. I didn't feel like talking to anybody, and

942
00:44:26,360 --> 00:44:28,679
I sat in a bar, I got myself a little

943
00:44:28,760 --> 00:44:32,639
drink and I opened this game up, and I fucking

944
00:44:32,679 --> 00:44:35,639
played this game for like six hours in a bar

945
00:44:35,880 --> 00:44:37,400
while I got like, really total.

946
00:44:37,280 --> 00:44:38,320
Speaker 1: It sounds very fun.

947
00:44:38,920 --> 00:44:43,239
Speaker 3: I got super into it. I died a lot, but

948
00:44:43,400 --> 00:44:46,519
I did win two more rounds, and each time I

949
00:44:46,559 --> 00:44:50,360
won it was like by the hair of my chiny chinchin.

950
00:44:50,519 --> 00:44:54,800
I was like holding my breath on round thirty. I

951
00:44:54,800 --> 00:44:57,159
think it's thirty rounds. Maybe thirty one is like when

952
00:44:57,159 --> 00:44:57,800
they send.

953
00:44:57,559 --> 00:45:01,440
Speaker 1: The final difficult did you we got difficulty?

954
00:45:02,639 --> 00:45:06,440
Speaker 3: Well, there's three different people, and every time I play it, like,

955
00:45:06,519 --> 00:45:08,719
I think the people are very different the way they

956
00:45:08,800 --> 00:45:12,719
like the three different areas, like the jungle seemed harder

957
00:45:12,719 --> 00:45:15,119
to me than the frozen tundra.

958
00:45:15,360 --> 00:45:19,760
Speaker 1: Oh, three different factions with different generals in each one. Yes, yeah,

959
00:45:19,760 --> 00:45:20,320
I play.

960
00:45:20,159 --> 00:45:23,239
Speaker 3: In a lot of different generals, all with big round boobs,

961
00:45:24,000 --> 00:45:27,440
and I died so often. When I was able to

962
00:45:27,559 --> 00:45:31,840
finally get through thirty rounds, I was sweating, I was

963
00:45:31,880 --> 00:45:36,800
breathing heavy. I was like, this is this is gaming, boys,

964
00:45:37,199 --> 00:45:40,960
this is gaming. I felt truly, and I mean this.

965
00:45:42,000 --> 00:45:44,559
I've played tower defenses most of my life, and I

966
00:45:44,599 --> 00:45:48,480
think most of them are made for little babies. I

967
00:45:48,519 --> 00:45:53,639
think they're like spoon feeding the gameplay to use. You

968
00:45:53,679 --> 00:45:57,840
cannot lose unless you're like a complete moron and this

969
00:45:57,920 --> 00:46:01,800
game is mean and you are going to die a lot.

970
00:46:01,920 --> 00:46:05,800
Is the hardest and most interesting tower defense game I've

971
00:46:05,800 --> 00:46:06,320
ever played.

972
00:46:06,639 --> 00:46:09,000
Speaker 1: It's got the Blottro thing where you think you've won

973
00:46:09,039 --> 00:46:11,920
the game and then that that one blind is like

974
00:46:12,079 --> 00:46:15,360
what the fuck? Like in Tower Dominion on later difficulties,

975
00:46:15,360 --> 00:46:19,119
When you have four doors in your base, the terrain

976
00:46:19,199 --> 00:46:22,280
building becomes the most important thing. So ideally you try

977
00:46:22,320 --> 00:46:25,199
to take each of the four doors the base and

978
00:46:25,480 --> 00:46:28,639
try to connect some of the pathways them off but

979
00:46:28,800 --> 00:46:32,320
all sent one way. But if you can't and I

980
00:46:32,519 --> 00:46:35,039
try not to reset even if I get a shitty

981
00:46:35,119 --> 00:46:40,119
beginning fetiles, that can screw me over because you'll think, Okay,

982
00:46:40,119 --> 00:46:42,079
I've got everything defended, and then they'll send like a

983
00:46:42,119 --> 00:46:44,840
bunch of the shielded huge dinosaur dudes through the pathway

984
00:46:44,880 --> 00:46:47,559
you don't have defended, Like well, that was the mean

985
00:46:47,599 --> 00:46:51,199
blind from Blotro. But there's also like HQ upgrades. I

986
00:46:51,199 --> 00:46:54,039
didn't even realize where a thing until my eighth time through,

987
00:46:54,119 --> 00:46:57,480
Like those are arguably some of the most important. The

988
00:46:57,519 --> 00:47:00,199
way some of the upgrades work synergistically. When you're in

989
00:47:00,239 --> 00:47:03,840
the mini the sturdy bunkers the little concrete bunkers, it's like, oh,

990
00:47:03,880 --> 00:47:07,239
you can either upgrade the rate of fire and the

991
00:47:07,280 --> 00:47:09,679
reload speed, but if you have two next to each other,

992
00:47:09,719 --> 00:47:11,360
you can give both of them an upgrade that.

993
00:47:11,760 --> 00:47:13,679
Speaker 3: It's fifty more damage.

994
00:47:13,760 --> 00:47:15,800
Speaker 1: And then if you surround it with four of them,

995
00:47:16,119 --> 00:47:19,119
that one in the middle is then pumping out a

996
00:47:19,119 --> 00:47:20,599
ton of damage. If you put it on a platform

997
00:47:20,599 --> 00:47:23,480
and it's got height three has way more coverage. The

998
00:47:23,559 --> 00:47:25,960
yellow squares when you are planting them, they.

999
00:47:25,880 --> 00:47:28,519
Speaker 3: Don't give you enough money. Why am I so poor?

1000
00:47:29,000 --> 00:47:31,199
I feel like every time I play this, they're like,

1001
00:47:31,239 --> 00:47:33,920
good job, you made the wave. You've also made fifty

1002
00:47:34,000 --> 00:47:36,840
dollars and be done is two hundred dollars. It is

1003
00:47:37,039 --> 00:47:40,760
brutal with how little money I have to survive in

1004
00:47:40,840 --> 00:47:45,159
this game, like just scraping by each wave and hoping

1005
00:47:45,199 --> 00:47:45,880
that I can live.

1006
00:47:46,440 --> 00:47:48,719
Speaker 1: Yeah. The more generals you beat the game with, and

1007
00:47:48,760 --> 00:47:52,800
there's like similar to Blattro or Vampire Survivors, there's a

1008
00:47:52,840 --> 00:47:56,039
lot of smaller milestones where it's like, oh, just reroll

1009
00:47:56,079 --> 00:47:59,599
your tile with Intel twenty five times, you'll unlock this

1010
00:47:59,599 --> 00:48:03,360
blue PRIs that bolsters your production between waves by one

1011
00:48:03,440 --> 00:48:06,800
hundred and fifty. Yeah. So then there's other generals where

1012
00:48:06,800 --> 00:48:12,000
it's like the general makes twice the production but cannot

1013
00:48:12,039 --> 00:48:16,440
gain intel. Or there's another general where the more you

1014
00:48:16,519 --> 00:48:19,920
don't want to connect the pathways because the more battle

1015
00:48:19,960 --> 00:48:22,800
fronts you have, which are just the unique paths toward

1016
00:48:22,840 --> 00:48:25,920
the base, the more damage all your towers do. So

1017
00:48:25,960 --> 00:48:28,280
you're literally trying to keep them separate. That's when you

1018
00:48:28,360 --> 00:48:30,119
kind of fan them outward and then go up, but

1019
00:48:30,159 --> 00:48:32,599
you still don't connect them because you lose the ten

1020
00:48:32,639 --> 00:48:38,360
percent per battlefront. It's like it's got that hallmark of

1021
00:48:38,400 --> 00:48:42,360
a good ROLLCT to me, where a card in Bilotro

1022
00:48:42,800 --> 00:48:47,000
or a card in Inscription, or a weapon in Hades

1023
00:48:47,320 --> 00:48:49,920
or an upgrade in Hades. Like you're playing the first

1024
00:48:49,960 --> 00:48:51,480
few hours like I don't see how that would ever

1025
00:48:51,519 --> 00:48:53,320
be useful, Why would I ever use that? But then

1026
00:48:53,400 --> 00:48:56,360
like h by our thirty, you're like, oh, holy shit,

1027
00:48:56,440 --> 00:48:57,960
I can kind of break the game if I use

1028
00:48:58,000 --> 00:48:59,960
that correctly, and I have a general now I love.

1029
00:49:00,440 --> 00:49:02,519
You get three of these flames, which are basically these

1030
00:49:02,559 --> 00:49:08,320
like inspirational statues, and there's those blueprints where it's like, oh,

1031
00:49:08,360 --> 00:49:11,400
you get two platforms every time, and for just to

1032
00:49:11,480 --> 00:49:13,920
explain what platforms are, It's like elevation in the game

1033
00:49:14,000 --> 00:49:16,800
is a huge deal. You can go from zero to

1034
00:49:16,840 --> 00:49:20,360
three platforms, raise it, and then that increases the range

1035
00:49:20,400 --> 00:49:22,079
of the tower. And range is a huge thing too,

1036
00:49:22,119 --> 00:49:26,480
because then you can cover three pathways with one tower.

1037
00:49:26,760 --> 00:49:32,559
For instance, by combining those inspirational statues which give fire rate,

1038
00:49:33,400 --> 00:49:36,519
reload speed, and damage to each tower adjacent to it,

1039
00:49:37,079 --> 00:49:39,159
you can then make this central thing with the three

1040
00:49:39,199 --> 00:49:42,079
statues all high elevation, and those six can carry you

1041
00:49:42,119 --> 00:49:44,800
from most of the game, provided you also But then

1042
00:49:44,840 --> 00:49:46,280
of course you have to worry about doing damage to

1043
00:49:46,400 --> 00:49:48,400
enemy shields. Then you have to worry about anti air,

1044
00:49:48,800 --> 00:49:51,880
you have to worry about stealth enemies. Like there's a

1045
00:49:51,920 --> 00:49:54,480
lot of layers to where I think I'm forty hours

1046
00:49:54,480 --> 00:49:58,360
in now and I'm still and I'm playing on difficulty

1047
00:49:58,360 --> 00:50:00,639
four now, so I have four doorways at my base

1048
00:50:01,320 --> 00:50:03,920
and that gets tricky, and I am restarting now like

1049
00:50:03,960 --> 00:50:06,920
they are billions. I try not to, but there's times

1050
00:50:07,079 --> 00:50:11,360
like I know, by wave fifteen, you know, like billatro,

1051
00:50:11,519 --> 00:50:14,719
you can tell if you have a bad run and

1052
00:50:14,800 --> 00:50:17,639
you'll just wipe. Just get to the point where I'm

1053
00:50:17,639 --> 00:50:19,360
doing that. But when I get a good set up

1054
00:50:19,400 --> 00:50:21,199
at the beginning, and I get good a few first

1055
00:50:21,239 --> 00:50:24,039
rounds of cards, it's it gets pretty thrilling for a

1056
00:50:24,039 --> 00:50:24,840
tower defense game.

1057
00:50:25,639 --> 00:50:30,159
Speaker 2: I started it, and I think it helped me realize

1058
00:50:30,199 --> 00:50:32,400
a pet peeve of mine where it's like, and I

1059
00:50:32,400 --> 00:50:33,599
don't know if there's just a me thing because I

1060
00:50:33,639 --> 00:50:36,480
don't retain information over long periods of time, but if

1061
00:50:36,480 --> 00:50:38,960
it's teaching me stuff like at the tutorial, like I

1062
00:50:39,039 --> 00:50:41,679
jump in and hear textbox, Hey, okay, this is how

1063
00:50:41,719 --> 00:50:44,000
these things work, and this is how you place this. Okay, cool,

1064
00:50:44,039 --> 00:50:45,599
got it? And then I'm like ready to play. And

1065
00:50:45,599 --> 00:50:47,159
then it's like okay, well now here's this and this

1066
00:50:47,199 --> 00:50:49,559
and this and okay, and then I go, oh, here's

1067
00:50:49,559 --> 00:50:51,199
this and this and this, and it's just like when

1068
00:50:51,239 --> 00:50:53,320
you're overloading me and you're not giving me time to

1069
00:50:53,400 --> 00:50:55,199
kind of like learn one thing before moving out of

1070
00:50:55,199 --> 00:50:57,320
the other, I am just kind of like, ah, man,

1071
00:50:57,559 --> 00:50:59,039
this is just too much in once I'm gonna remember

1072
00:50:59,079 --> 00:51:00,800
all this, you need to like base this out more.

1073
00:51:00,880 --> 00:51:02,280
So I'm looking at my steam right now and I

1074
00:51:02,280 --> 00:51:04,719
played four minutes of this, so I would.

1075
00:51:04,559 --> 00:51:09,440
Speaker 1: Want to say, yeah, if like, if this reassured not

1076
00:51:09,480 --> 00:51:10,880
I'm not saying if you don't like, you don't have

1077
00:51:10,920 --> 00:51:11,840
to go back, but I would no.

1078
00:51:11,719 --> 00:51:13,960
Speaker 2: No, it seemed like everything you said and are saying

1079
00:51:13,960 --> 00:51:16,079
here like this sounds interesting to me. It's like my

1080
00:51:16,159 --> 00:51:16,679
kind of game.

1081
00:51:17,159 --> 00:51:19,920
Speaker 1: I guess if it helps. I didn't like, I'm surprised

1082
00:51:19,920 --> 00:51:22,079
to hear that I don't remember that, Like that's how

1083
00:51:22,760 --> 00:51:23,039
this is.

1084
00:51:23,079 --> 00:51:24,960
Speaker 2: Just a dumb thing where I wasn't in the mood

1085
00:51:25,000 --> 00:51:28,840
to learn something, you know, And we're like, yeah, you probably.

1086
00:51:28,559 --> 00:51:30,840
Speaker 3: Like saw the art style and the indiness of it,

1087
00:51:30,920 --> 00:51:32,519
and you were like, the art.

1088
00:51:32,440 --> 00:51:34,599
Speaker 2: Style does look like the art style we would see

1089
00:51:34,599 --> 00:51:37,119
on the window of a laser tag place at the mall.

1090
00:51:37,519 --> 00:51:42,679
Speaker 3: Yeah, the art it's hard to get over. These boobies

1091
00:51:43,039 --> 00:51:44,280
are round.

1092
00:51:45,000 --> 00:51:49,679
Speaker 2: Yeah, just even boobies aside, it's just say the whole

1093
00:51:49,679 --> 00:51:51,360
deal is not good looking.

1094
00:51:51,599 --> 00:51:54,719
Speaker 1: Not at all. But yeah, I mean, Mary, I don't

1095
00:51:54,719 --> 00:51:56,840
know you might feel differently. I definitely think like it's

1096
00:51:56,920 --> 00:51:59,159
very much a learn by playing kind of game. After

1097
00:51:59,199 --> 00:52:00,519
that intro, I.

1098
00:52:00,440 --> 00:52:04,159
Speaker 3: Agree, I don't think there's any like real advice you

1099
00:52:04,159 --> 00:52:06,239
could There's no like YouTube that's going to solve it.

1100
00:52:06,280 --> 00:52:08,000
I think you have to get in there and die.

1101
00:52:08,320 --> 00:52:09,239
Like that is the.

1102
00:52:09,199 --> 00:52:12,519
Speaker 1: Most game I don't think is overbearing with the tutorials

1103
00:52:12,519 --> 00:52:13,360
past a certain point.

1104
00:52:13,880 --> 00:52:16,480
Speaker 3: No, I just think you have to be comfortable with losing.

1105
00:52:16,559 --> 00:52:20,519
And I think, like this game is, it's mean, But

1106
00:52:20,599 --> 00:52:24,239
I think we culturally have started gravitating towards games that

1107
00:52:24,280 --> 00:52:27,159
punch you a little bit and call you names and

1108
00:52:27,239 --> 00:52:30,199
kick you while you're down. Like I find that we've

1109
00:52:30,239 --> 00:52:33,239
been looking for games more like that in our time

1110
00:52:33,239 --> 00:52:35,800
that remind us of our childhood when it's extremely difficult

1111
00:52:35,800 --> 00:52:38,480
to beat them. This is the hardest Tower Defense I

1112
00:52:38,519 --> 00:52:39,320
have ever played.

1113
00:52:39,920 --> 00:52:41,559
Speaker 2: I think you're onto something there. I think it did

1114
00:52:41,639 --> 00:52:43,440
swing in a certain way, maybe in like the three

1115
00:52:43,480 --> 00:52:46,039
six era, where it's like once Call of Duty kind

1116
00:52:46,039 --> 00:52:48,559
of popularized the like hey, just kind of like sit

1117
00:52:48,920 --> 00:52:50,360
behind a thing for a little and you'll get all

1118
00:52:50,400 --> 00:52:51,840
your health back, or even Halo did some of that

1119
00:52:51,840 --> 00:52:54,840
with the Shields, and then we moved away from that.

1120
00:52:54,880 --> 00:52:56,840
Once we started going back like Doom twenty sixteen and

1121
00:52:57,119 --> 00:52:58,920
got past that, it's like, okay, now we're picking up

1122
00:52:58,960 --> 00:53:01,239
health again. We want things to harder and the Rise

1123
00:53:01,280 --> 00:53:03,360
of Soul's likes and stuff like that. It is like

1124
00:53:03,519 --> 00:53:04,880
there was a period where things were all like, oh,

1125
00:53:04,880 --> 00:53:07,519
it's getting easier and more user friendly, and then it's like, Okay,

1126
00:53:07,559 --> 00:53:09,519
maybe punishing is fun for some people.

1127
00:53:09,559 --> 00:53:12,079
Speaker 3: You know, Yeah, I think people like it, and I

1128
00:53:12,119 --> 00:53:15,599
think honestly, like, I play so many tower defenses that

1129
00:53:15,800 --> 00:53:17,960
I just think they they're handing it to you, They're

1130
00:53:18,000 --> 00:53:19,960
spoon feeding it to you, make sure that you probably

1131
00:53:20,000 --> 00:53:22,239
won't fail, and this one is not like that. You

1132
00:53:22,360 --> 00:53:25,800
have to just I realized that one you were saying,

1133
00:53:25,800 --> 00:53:27,800
when you like want these bunkers next to each other,

1134
00:53:27,880 --> 00:53:30,760
It took me like six lives to like figure that out.

1135
00:53:31,159 --> 00:53:33,079
I also like, it took me a long time because

1136
00:53:33,599 --> 00:53:36,320
you waste money in this game, you're gonna fucking die,

1137
00:53:36,400 --> 00:53:38,400
Like you can't afford it, Like the money is too

1138
00:53:38,440 --> 00:53:41,000
scarce for you to waste. So the first time I

1139
00:53:41,079 --> 00:53:45,199
like realized a certain gun upgrade was the wrong one, well.

1140
00:53:45,599 --> 00:53:47,079
Speaker 1: Oh yeah sucks to suck.

1141
00:53:47,199 --> 00:53:48,079
Speaker 3: Like I'm gone.

1142
00:53:48,199 --> 00:53:51,079
Speaker 1: I will say there are some annoyances I have with it,

1143
00:53:51,159 --> 00:53:54,360
like and they're still updating a patch just hit two

1144
00:53:54,440 --> 00:53:57,079
days ago that now, Mary, this, I don't know if

1145
00:53:57,159 --> 00:54:00,360
you played after this, but now it's actually kind of

1146
00:54:00,360 --> 00:54:02,800
a cool They have a graphic along the a vertical

1147
00:54:02,840 --> 00:54:06,719
graphic along the right side of the screen showing the

1148
00:54:06,800 --> 00:54:09,920
towers you've built that did the most damage over the round,

1149
00:54:09,960 --> 00:54:12,360
and it's live updates, so like throughout a round you

1150
00:54:12,360 --> 00:54:15,239
could see them like shifting and it becomes pretty helpful

1151
00:54:15,280 --> 00:54:18,000
because you see if you click on the panel, it'll

1152
00:54:18,280 --> 00:54:21,079
jump the camera right to that tower. So if you

1153
00:54:21,119 --> 00:54:23,000
really want to get really analytical, and you don't have

1154
00:54:23,039 --> 00:54:25,320
to because again you design your map well enough, like

1155
00:54:25,480 --> 00:54:28,159
there's a few rounds later on by round twenty five

1156
00:54:28,159 --> 00:54:29,679
where you can kind of sit back and just enjoy

1157
00:54:29,719 --> 00:54:32,000
how much damage it's doing. But it'll bring you to

1158
00:54:32,000 --> 00:54:35,559
that tower and say, oh this this uh war Wolf,

1159
00:54:35,599 --> 00:54:38,079
which is basically just like the artillery. They lob stuff

1160
00:54:38,079 --> 00:54:40,159
and you can really buff them to do area damage

1161
00:54:40,519 --> 00:54:42,639
like that did a lot of damage. What am I

1162
00:54:42,679 --> 00:54:44,800
doing here? Or I guess that shows me the enemies

1163
00:54:44,800 --> 00:54:48,599
are coming this way, so you could start upgrading the

1164
00:54:48,599 --> 00:54:50,960
towers in that area. It's a really bolster the defense

1165
00:54:51,039 --> 00:54:55,039
is there. But there's other stuff where if the round

1166
00:54:55,079 --> 00:54:58,360
has not if you haven't manually started the wave and

1167
00:54:58,440 --> 00:55:01,400
you place a tower you can press you can click

1168
00:55:01,440 --> 00:55:03,159
on it and press cancel and it'll refund you in

1169
00:55:03,199 --> 00:55:06,320
full because the wave is not started. However, to your point,

1170
00:55:06,519 --> 00:55:09,920
if you may accidentally select the wrong upgrade to the tower,

1171
00:55:10,000 --> 00:55:14,400
there's three upgrades for those who have played it that

1172
00:55:14,599 --> 00:55:17,719
can fuck you over, because yeah, you're you're spending every

1173
00:55:17,760 --> 00:55:22,280
dollar pretty preciously in like the mid game, So if

1174
00:55:22,320 --> 00:55:25,599
I select one, that's like, oh, if this tower has

1175
00:55:25,639 --> 00:55:30,159
no adjacent buildings, it does an extra ten percent damage.

1176
00:55:30,760 --> 00:55:32,280
But if you accidentally click that and it does have

1177
00:55:32,320 --> 00:55:34,920
an adjacent building, you can't undo it. So like, I

1178
00:55:34,920 --> 00:55:37,320
would love for them to undo that cancel because sometimes

1179
00:55:37,360 --> 00:55:40,760
I'm just going especially on steam Deck. The steam Deck

1180
00:55:41,119 --> 00:55:44,960
is you're basically using your right thumb to move towers around.

1181
00:55:45,239 --> 00:55:48,639
I use the haptic pad as opposed to the analog stick.

1182
00:55:49,320 --> 00:55:51,679
You can accidentally misplace stuff there, and it's nice that

1183
00:55:51,719 --> 00:55:54,000
you can recall them in between rounds, but the fact

1184
00:55:54,039 --> 00:55:58,719
that you can't recall upgrades is really frustrating because especially

1185
00:55:59,000 --> 00:56:00,840
I don't know it just heat of the moment stuff

1186
00:56:01,239 --> 00:56:03,320
kicks in when you're later into some of those rounds, and.

1187
00:56:03,320 --> 00:56:05,360
Speaker 3: It's it's nice that you can buy stuff in the

1188
00:56:05,360 --> 00:56:07,960
middle of the round because like I have on accident

1189
00:56:08,039 --> 00:56:11,400
also hit start the round when I didn't mean to,

1190
00:56:11,519 --> 00:56:13,960
but I could quickly place things during the round, which

1191
00:56:14,000 --> 00:56:16,840
I appreciate. I will just say that there's steam deck

1192
00:56:16,920 --> 00:56:20,920
controls not great. No A is start the round. Are

1193
00:56:20,960 --> 00:56:24,400
you fucking kidding me? That's just like not a good

1194
00:56:24,519 --> 00:56:28,400
button to use for start. Enemies coming out my face

1195
00:56:28,880 --> 00:56:32,599
like they they really should have thought that schematic through

1196
00:56:32,880 --> 00:56:35,559
And I accidentally started rounds so often?

1197
00:56:35,960 --> 00:56:38,599
Speaker 2: So are you like placing things and prepping and stuff

1198
00:56:38,639 --> 00:56:41,320
with other buttons? And then A is to start No

1199
00:56:41,360 --> 00:56:42,599
matter what you.

1200
00:56:42,559 --> 00:56:46,320
Speaker 3: Want to to write triggers to place things and rotate,

1201
00:56:46,719 --> 00:56:49,079
A is to start the round, I.

1202
00:56:49,280 --> 00:56:53,079
Speaker 2: Start, should start or just anything but A Basically, I.

1203
00:56:52,719 --> 00:56:54,880
Speaker 3: Could not agree more. I've accidentally pressed it, and I

1204
00:56:54,880 --> 00:56:56,639
also pressed it because I was like, there's no way

1205
00:56:56,679 --> 00:57:00,000
that starts around, and it fucking didow huh.

1206
00:57:00,079 --> 00:57:02,599
Speaker 1: Yeah. I stick to the triggers to rotate stuff, and

1207
00:57:02,639 --> 00:57:05,559
then the haptic and then I move the cursor. Literally,

1208
00:57:05,599 --> 00:57:07,639
I literally moved the cursor to start wave on the

1209
00:57:07,679 --> 00:57:08,840
screen to avoid that.

1210
00:57:09,320 --> 00:57:11,480
Speaker 2: I've never tried the haptic thing on the steam Deck.

1211
00:57:11,519 --> 00:57:14,119
I have not really used that as a mouse before it.

1212
00:57:14,119 --> 00:57:17,079
Speaker 1: It's pretty good. Yeah, it's so much more responsive than

1213
00:57:17,199 --> 00:57:20,039
like it gives you so much more room for error

1214
00:57:20,079 --> 00:57:23,079
because you can swipe really quick quickly across the screen.

1215
00:57:23,519 --> 00:57:27,119
But it's really responsive when you correct as well. So

1216
00:57:27,159 --> 00:57:29,679
it does, for me at least, feel pretty natural as

1217
00:57:29,679 --> 00:57:32,360
opposed to the analog stick, which is can be feel

1218
00:57:32,400 --> 00:57:34,159
pretty hefty in that kind of game with a cursor.

1219
00:57:34,519 --> 00:57:35,719
Speaker 2: And if it is like kind of a mouse and

1220
00:57:35,800 --> 00:57:38,440
keyboard type thing, is it like are you pressing down

1221
00:57:38,480 --> 00:57:39,719
on it to click or are you doing like R

1222
00:57:39,800 --> 00:57:40,519
two or something?

1223
00:57:40,840 --> 00:57:43,159
Speaker 1: R two is a place and then L two rotates

1224
00:57:43,199 --> 00:57:43,719
the towers.

1225
00:57:44,159 --> 00:57:46,320
Speaker 2: Okay, okay, L one R.

1226
00:57:46,280 --> 00:57:48,119
Speaker 1: One do something in that game? What do they do?

1227
00:57:49,159 --> 00:57:51,880
I forget? So yeah, no, I just stick to the

1228
00:57:51,880 --> 00:57:55,840
triggers to Mary's point, to avoid the accidental face button presses,

1229
00:57:55,920 --> 00:57:58,960
which are tied to pretty important functions in that game.

1230
00:58:00,320 --> 00:58:02,920
I hope they'll update it with touch controls. Doesn't have

1231
00:58:02,960 --> 00:58:05,880
them right now? Or no, it does it, I'm not

1232
00:58:05,920 --> 00:58:07,239
actually I don't remember trying.

1233
00:58:07,719 --> 00:58:10,440
Speaker 2: A game like that would be conducive to iPad or something, right.

1234
00:58:10,559 --> 00:58:11,360
Speaker 1: I hope they do.

1235
00:58:11,400 --> 00:58:15,480
Speaker 3: They make a wonderful iPhone game and it looks like it,

1236
00:58:15,519 --> 00:58:17,559
but noah, it does, I don't think.

1237
00:58:17,679 --> 00:58:19,880
Speaker 1: Yeah, I will say. Also, even on Steam Deck in

1238
00:58:19,960 --> 00:58:23,960
later rounds, I have a release steam Deck model. It

1239
00:58:24,079 --> 00:58:27,159
was chugging a bit later on when you have eighty

1240
00:58:27,400 --> 00:58:32,400
artillery cannons and sixty bunkers and a bunch of machine

1241
00:58:32,400 --> 00:58:34,679
gun platforms, it starts to sputter.

1242
00:58:34,960 --> 00:58:37,880
Speaker 2: I forget on the on the original Steam Deck, can

1243
00:58:37,920 --> 00:58:40,280
you adjust that TDP meter? Or is that just an

1244
00:58:40,280 --> 00:58:42,280
O lead feature? I can't remember that, the one where

1245
00:58:42,320 --> 00:58:44,199
it's like you're basically saying how much power you wanted

1246
00:58:44,199 --> 00:58:46,239
to use at the expensive battery so you can like

1247
00:58:46,239 --> 00:58:47,639
crank it all the way up if it's a demand

1248
00:58:47,679 --> 00:58:49,800
of game but you're gonna lose battery power, or if

1249
00:58:49,840 --> 00:58:51,480
it's like a little you know in the game with

1250
00:58:51,559 --> 00:58:53,639
not you know, much going on graphically, you can crank

1251
00:58:53,679 --> 00:58:55,280
it down and have eight hours of battery.

1252
00:58:55,480 --> 00:58:58,599
Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm about seventy five percent sure. It's just a

1253
00:58:58,719 --> 00:59:01,760
lead okay, And that is a very handy feature. Yeah,

1254
00:59:01,760 --> 00:59:03,480
it sounds great and I gotta get one eventually. I

1255
00:59:03,519 --> 00:59:06,960
got to get that in a switch too. But yeah, no,

1256
00:59:07,000 --> 00:59:08,760
I'm glad you tried Towered of Minion. Yeah, definitely not

1257
00:59:08,800 --> 00:59:10,400
a perfect game, but like it has consumed a lot

1258
00:59:10,440 --> 00:59:14,320
of my time because like it's just doing really cool

1259
00:59:14,360 --> 00:59:17,880
things rogue light wise and terrain building wise. Like it's

1260
00:59:17,920 --> 00:59:19,760
made really good use of the rogue light structure. A

1261
00:59:19,800 --> 00:59:21,960
lot of games just kind of pen the rogue light

1262
00:59:22,360 --> 00:59:25,519
systems and all of a sudden you're playing three different

1263
00:59:25,559 --> 00:59:27,920
games at once. This all feels like a piece and

1264
00:59:29,000 --> 00:59:32,360
I like it quite a bit. But yeah, Dan, Dan,

1265
00:59:32,440 --> 00:59:34,800
if you get bored when I want to need something

1266
00:59:34,840 --> 00:59:37,920
to try, I will say I do not recall the

1267
00:59:38,000 --> 00:59:39,599
tutorial whatsoever I've.

1268
00:59:39,519 --> 00:59:42,800
Speaker 2: Learned totally playing this is just it was just probably

1269
00:59:42,840 --> 00:59:44,360
the wrong time for me to start that game, and

1270
00:59:44,360 --> 00:59:45,760
it just wasn't in the mood to learn something, or

1271
00:59:45,800 --> 00:59:47,920
I was tired or something like. It sounds like a

1272
00:59:47,920 --> 00:59:50,440
game I would enjoy a lot. So yeah, I think

1273
00:59:50,480 --> 00:59:52,920
there aren't eighteen fucking games I want to play coming

1274
00:59:52,920 --> 00:59:53,960
out the next like three weeks.

1275
00:59:54,000 --> 00:59:56,280
Speaker 1: But you should try The Silk Songs tomorrow.

1276
00:59:56,480 --> 00:59:57,599
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, I am going to play that.

1277
00:59:57,719 --> 01:00:02,440
Speaker 1: Yeah, mar offline, I don't want to bother Mary. Mary.

1278
01:00:02,480 --> 01:00:04,440
You played Sword of the Sea as well. That game

1279
01:00:04,519 --> 01:00:07,280
looks really good. Kind of like Real World meets Journey

1280
01:00:07,280 --> 01:00:08,079
meets Tony Hawk.

1281
01:00:08,840 --> 01:00:11,159
Speaker 3: Uh yeah, I don't.

1282
01:00:10,920 --> 01:00:17,920
Speaker 1: Know pitch for that game. This is a giant super base, right,

1283
01:00:17,920 --> 01:00:19,920
that's what it looked like. You're skating around a sword.

1284
01:00:21,320 --> 01:00:25,840
Speaker 3: You're skating on a sword on sand. It's from a

1285
01:00:26,440 --> 01:00:30,320
giant squid. And so if you stop interrupting, I'll tell

1286
01:00:30,360 --> 01:00:33,760
you that it is from the people who made the

1287
01:00:33,880 --> 01:00:37,679
artists behind Journey. And then they also made ab Zoo

1288
01:00:38,119 --> 01:00:43,000
and they also made Pathless Pathless, which is all where

1289
01:00:43,119 --> 01:00:49,000
you skate on sand. So these are kind of like similar.

1290
01:00:49,920 --> 01:00:53,079
They have a thing and they know it. I will say, like,

1291
01:00:55,000 --> 01:00:56,679
I think this game is beautiful. Just to start, I

1292
01:00:56,679 --> 01:00:59,159
will I will say it is stunning to look at.

1293
01:00:59,280 --> 01:01:04,599
And they they really cracked it. Whoever was their graphics lead,

1294
01:01:04,719 --> 01:01:08,159
Like the people who were doing art tech knocked it

1295
01:01:08,199 --> 01:01:10,000
out of the park. This is a game where like

1296
01:01:10,119 --> 01:01:13,880
as you solve puzzles, the sea comes out of the

1297
01:01:13,960 --> 01:01:21,639
sand and massive animals, whales, sharks, stingrays, they just start

1298
01:01:22,280 --> 01:01:27,760
floating in the sky of this desert landscape. I mean,

1299
01:01:27,800 --> 01:01:30,599
it is so cool how they make water and sand

1300
01:01:31,320 --> 01:01:36,760
work together visually, and I find that shockingly well done.

1301
01:01:37,199 --> 01:01:41,000
This is all set to a beautiful cinematic soundtrack as

1302
01:01:41,039 --> 01:01:44,079
you would expect, just like those other games that you'd experience,

1303
01:01:44,360 --> 01:01:50,079
and you're kind of floating around, skating on your sword

1304
01:01:50,800 --> 01:01:54,039
with all these animals, and yes, you can ride basically

1305
01:01:54,119 --> 01:01:56,960
every animal. You see, a giant whale, shark, you can

1306
01:01:57,079 --> 01:01:59,760
jump on their back and hang out and take a

1307
01:01:59,760 --> 01:02:01,880
little spin with them, which I think is so cute.

1308
01:02:02,920 --> 01:02:06,440
In the Journey fashion, there's not really any dialogue, and

1309
01:02:06,480 --> 01:02:09,360
they don't explain the puzzles. You'll just see a visual puzzle,

1310
01:02:09,519 --> 01:02:13,440
maybe like a fountain and there's no water coming out

1311
01:02:13,440 --> 01:02:16,000
of it, and so you're like hanging out. You'll get

1312
01:02:16,000 --> 01:02:19,239
prompted to light a bunch of lights.

1313
01:02:19,840 --> 01:02:21,840
Speaker 2: You can just touch a bunch of lanterns around it.

1314
01:02:22,239 --> 01:02:24,840
Speaker 3: Touch lanterns and they light up, and then that will

1315
01:02:24,840 --> 01:02:27,079
open up an area, and then you stab your sword

1316
01:02:27,119 --> 01:02:30,519
in the area and all of a sudden, the fountain

1317
01:02:30,559 --> 01:02:32,320
now has water coming out of it, and you have

1318
01:02:32,440 --> 01:02:34,559
solved one fourth of the puzzle, and you need to

1319
01:02:34,599 --> 01:02:37,000
do that three times. There's also time trial areas. If

1320
01:02:37,039 --> 01:02:40,360
you go to certain areas, it literally has a time symbol.

1321
01:02:41,320 --> 01:02:43,480
It's an area where it wants you to do something

1322
01:02:44,360 --> 01:02:46,679
within a certain amount of time to get like a

1323
01:02:46,719 --> 01:02:51,480
little bonus. It's very visual. There's like no there's like

1324
01:02:51,800 --> 01:02:55,599
no audio or video at all. There's no dialogue. It's

1325
01:02:56,000 --> 01:02:56,559
it's all dewey.

1326
01:02:57,079 --> 01:02:58,840
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean it's really good with that, like no

1327
01:02:59,000 --> 01:03:01,519
hud stuff and like just communicating to you, like since

1328
01:03:01,519 --> 01:03:04,000
everything is sandy at the start, and oh I did

1329
01:03:04,000 --> 01:03:06,320
some ship and now there's water, and it's so easy

1330
01:03:06,320 --> 01:03:07,679
to just like look at the land and be like,

1331
01:03:07,719 --> 01:03:09,000
all right, that's a bunch of sand over there. I

1332
01:03:09,039 --> 01:03:10,599
bet I gotta do some shit to make that water.

1333
01:03:11,000 --> 01:03:13,239
Like it's pretty elegant with the way it does that.

1334
01:03:13,599 --> 01:03:15,440
I do feel that, like I probably played like an

1335
01:03:15,519 --> 01:03:18,800
hour or two of it, and you know, gorgeous. You

1336
01:03:18,840 --> 01:03:21,159
know that all the skating stuff feels really great and everything.

1337
01:03:21,599 --> 01:03:24,280
But it is pretty simple with the stuff you're doing

1338
01:03:24,400 --> 01:03:25,960
in terms of like I'm gonna get around and look

1339
01:03:26,000 --> 01:03:28,159
at stuff and oh I should probably do that over there.

1340
01:03:28,199 --> 01:03:30,480
Like this isn't really a knock on it. It's just

1341
01:03:30,519 --> 01:03:32,320
after like an hour or two of playing it, I

1342
01:03:32,360 --> 01:03:34,639
think I kind of saw well, like I'm sure there's

1343
01:03:34,800 --> 01:03:37,280
some beautiful vistas and things like that, and some cool

1344
01:03:37,440 --> 01:03:39,960
animal moments and stuff like that, but like, as far

1345
01:03:40,039 --> 01:03:42,800
as what the gameplay was, I didn't really see that progressing.

1346
01:03:42,840 --> 01:03:45,440
Like you would give your shards to that merchant type

1347
01:03:45,440 --> 01:03:47,360
guy or whatever, and it's like now you can do these.

1348
01:03:47,199 --> 01:03:49,719
Speaker 3: Tricks and kickflip with your sword.

1349
01:03:51,400 --> 01:03:54,920
Speaker 2: But yeah, okay, sure that's cool. It just seemed I

1350
01:03:54,960 --> 01:03:56,760
don't mean this to sound as harsh as it might sound,

1351
01:03:56,760 --> 01:04:00,599
but like a little style over substance, you know, yeah, I.

1352
01:04:00,559 --> 01:04:03,360
Speaker 3: Think that's fair. I would say like this game is

1353
01:04:04,039 --> 01:04:07,960
a stunning feast for the eyes and the ears, Like

1354
01:04:08,000 --> 01:04:12,800
this is visually inaudibly gorgeous. In terms of like the

1355
01:04:12,840 --> 01:04:16,360
actual gameplay, I've kind of felt like I've played this before.

1356
01:04:16,760 --> 01:04:18,679
Speaker 2: Yes, I have from the studio.

1357
01:04:19,079 --> 01:04:22,280
Speaker 3: I have skated down these dunes I have I have

1358
01:04:22,880 --> 01:04:27,039
solved these very similar puzzles before. This has a short

1359
01:04:27,559 --> 01:04:31,320
gameplay experience. I did roll credits on this. It did

1360
01:04:31,320 --> 01:04:33,440
not take super long. I do think I missed some

1361
01:04:33,480 --> 01:04:35,400
stuff I didn't do all the time trial stuff. I

1362
01:04:35,480 --> 01:04:38,920
think I I skirted past some puzzles. But this is

1363
01:04:38,920 --> 01:04:44,719
a short visual experience that, while stunning and again just

1364
01:04:44,760 --> 01:04:47,760
so so so pretty, I have to say, like the

1365
01:04:47,800 --> 01:04:51,760
original Journey, while it wasn't always like the most stunning game.

1366
01:04:51,800 --> 01:04:54,320
And Journey is pretty, but it's it's it's not like

1367
01:04:55,320 --> 01:04:57,199
it's pretty. Is this I think this game is prettier.

1368
01:04:57,480 --> 01:05:00,599
But what I'm saying is is like Journey didn't need

1369
01:05:00,639 --> 01:05:03,039
that because what it was doing was so filled with

1370
01:05:03,119 --> 01:05:07,320
heart and it allowed you to have these incredible experiences

1371
01:05:07,360 --> 01:05:11,119
with other people in a world that was the crux

1372
01:05:11,239 --> 01:05:15,039
of the gameplay. And in none of these other games,

1373
01:05:15,079 --> 01:05:16,880
as far as I'm aware, correct me if I'm wrong,

1374
01:05:16,880 --> 01:05:20,679
but like they just haven't really added these elements of

1375
01:05:20,719 --> 01:05:23,199
finding other people in the world. There's none of that

1376
01:05:23,280 --> 01:05:23,559
at all.

1377
01:05:23,639 --> 01:05:25,519
Speaker 2: This is they're solitary, Yeah.

1378
01:05:25,599 --> 01:05:29,679
Speaker 3: Solitary experience, and I think it feels like it's missing

1379
01:05:29,760 --> 01:05:31,360
a little bit in the sense that I would have

1380
01:05:31,440 --> 01:05:35,119
loved to share that with another individual like I did

1381
01:05:35,119 --> 01:05:37,519
with Journey. So I don't know. It's like you're you're

1382
01:05:37,559 --> 01:05:39,599
telling me this comes from the makers of Journey. It

1383
01:05:39,639 --> 01:05:41,840
feels a lot like Journey. It looks a lot like Journey,

1384
01:05:42,800 --> 01:05:45,239
but Journey did something that this came didn't, And it's

1385
01:05:45,280 --> 01:05:47,239
like Journey's like fifteen years old.

1386
01:05:47,840 --> 01:05:50,639
Speaker 2: Yeah, And I would actually argue that Journey I do

1387
01:05:50,679 --> 01:05:52,639
remember thinking it was beautiful, you know, back when it

1388
01:05:52,679 --> 01:05:54,119
came out on PST.

1389
01:05:53,920 --> 01:05:54,559
Speaker 3: It was beautiful.

1390
01:05:54,599 --> 01:05:56,920
Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm not saying the lead with that is. The

1391
01:05:56,920 --> 01:05:58,679
thing is like, yes, it was beautiful. That was a

1392
01:05:58,800 --> 01:06:01,639
nice bonus for Journy, Like you were saying, Mary, I

1393
01:06:01,679 --> 01:06:03,440
do think the thing that made Journey one of the

1394
01:06:03,480 --> 01:06:07,079
best games of all time is just that incredible way

1395
01:06:07,079 --> 01:06:10,039
that it utilizes the online connection with other people and

1396
01:06:10,119 --> 01:06:13,239
the way that it limits your communication. And it's just like, man,

1397
01:06:13,320 --> 01:06:15,880
me and this person, this random other, actual person playing

1398
01:06:15,960 --> 01:06:18,280
right now, We're just going up this freezing mountain together,

1399
01:06:18,320 --> 01:06:19,880
and like we're just in this together and we just

1400
01:06:19,920 --> 01:06:20,880
met and everybody.

1401
01:06:20,559 --> 01:06:22,440
Speaker 3: And they might die, but I'm worried about them, and

1402
01:06:22,480 --> 01:06:24,400
I don't even know who they are. Like, this game

1403
01:06:24,440 --> 01:06:28,280
does not evoke that type of feeling in me. No voise,

1404
01:06:28,840 --> 01:06:30,639
Was I really worried about anybody?

1405
01:06:31,159 --> 01:06:33,800
Speaker 2: Yeah? I mean the post Journey games made by you know,

1406
01:06:33,880 --> 01:06:36,920
Giant Squid kind of they're beautiful screen savers. I would say,

1407
01:06:37,000 --> 01:06:39,719
you know, where's Journey with something unbelievably special.

1408
01:06:40,159 --> 01:06:43,039
Speaker 3: I hope that this company continues to make stunning games.

1409
01:06:43,079 --> 01:06:46,039
I think that there is it is important in our

1410
01:06:46,079 --> 01:06:49,320
industry to make space for companies like Giant Squid that

1411
01:06:49,360 --> 01:06:54,000
are making stunning visual spectacles because they are artists. This

1412
01:06:54,079 --> 01:06:57,239
game is art. Yeah, in terms of gameplay, I would

1413
01:06:57,239 --> 01:07:00,480
like them to challenge themselves a little bit more to

1414
01:07:00,639 --> 01:07:06,679
invoke an actual emotional response to this game beyond God

1415
01:07:06,840 --> 01:07:07,639
is this pretty?

1416
01:07:08,159 --> 01:07:12,719
Speaker 1: Yep, totally agreed, it's a bummer. I was looking at gameplay.

1417
01:07:12,800 --> 01:07:14,320
I thought it might be like wheel World in the

1418
01:07:14,360 --> 01:07:17,000
sense that you're actually getting rewarded for exploring.

1419
01:07:16,719 --> 01:07:22,280
Speaker 2: More, not as much as will World, where Walworld is hard.

1420
01:07:23,280 --> 01:07:26,159
It feels more open, like you know, these are like

1421
01:07:26,320 --> 01:07:30,679
open areas like open zone or whatever, where you can

1422
01:07:30,800 --> 01:07:32,599
go whatever direction you want, but there's just not a

1423
01:07:32,639 --> 01:07:35,039
lot to do, at least real world. It was like, Okay,

1424
01:07:35,119 --> 01:07:36,920
I can kind of pick up this race here, I

1425
01:07:36,960 --> 01:07:39,480
can go find this thing here. There's collectibles and merchants

1426
01:07:39,519 --> 01:07:39,840
and stuff.

1427
01:07:39,840 --> 01:07:43,079
Speaker 3: It's hidden the people and NPCs everywhere. This game doesn't

1428
01:07:43,079 --> 01:07:46,679
have any people at all except for the merchant. And

1429
01:07:46,760 --> 01:07:48,559
the animals are cool to look at, but you can't

1430
01:07:48,719 --> 01:07:49,320
play with them.

1431
01:07:49,880 --> 01:07:51,800
Speaker 2: Yeah, You're just kind of skating around until you see

1432
01:07:51,880 --> 01:07:54,360
something you can probably skate near, and then something happens.

1433
01:07:54,440 --> 01:07:55,760
You know, it's not deeper than that.

1434
01:07:56,119 --> 01:07:58,119
Speaker 3: And even writing the animals that I was saying earlier.

1435
01:07:58,199 --> 01:08:00,559
The first time I like stood on a whale, I

1436
01:08:00,639 --> 01:08:02,360
was like, this is the coolest thing ever. But then

1437
01:08:02,400 --> 01:08:06,000
I realized that the pathway of the whale doesn't change.

1438
01:08:06,039 --> 01:08:08,480
He doesn't do any animation. He doesn't play with me,

1439
01:08:09,639 --> 01:08:11,800
you know, he just stays on his little path and

1440
01:08:11,880 --> 01:08:13,760
I jump on and when I jump, and I jump

1441
01:08:13,800 --> 01:08:15,639
off and when I jump off. Now, there is an

1442
01:08:15,719 --> 01:08:17,039
area of the game that I don't know if you

1443
01:08:17,199 --> 01:08:22,720
got to yet. Dan, I'm just gonna say, sharks, No, No,

1444
01:08:23,680 --> 01:08:26,159
that's pretty cool. And I think that that is where

1445
01:08:26,159 --> 01:08:29,640
they took some risks as a team. And so I

1446
01:08:29,760 --> 01:08:33,840
will say that there is change ups in the gameplay

1447
01:08:33,920 --> 01:08:37,399
that I think are smart, and I applaud them for

1448
01:08:37,520 --> 01:08:40,640
doing those. I just think I wish there was more

1449
01:08:40,720 --> 01:08:43,039
of that, but they they do mix it up a

1450
01:08:43,079 --> 01:08:47,640
little bit. Okay, game is not long, so I think

1451
01:08:47,680 --> 01:08:50,319
you can. You should be able to complete it in

1452
01:08:50,479 --> 01:08:52,439
like another sitting, like you'd get through it if you

1453
01:08:52,479 --> 01:08:52,840
wanted to.

1454
01:08:53,520 --> 01:08:55,439
Speaker 1: I yeah, I respect that. It is beautiful.

1455
01:08:55,600 --> 01:08:57,760
Speaker 2: It's just like it was not grabbed me from the

1456
01:08:58,079 --> 01:08:59,399
video game part of it at all.

1457
01:08:59,479 --> 01:09:00,439
Speaker 1: Yeah, I understand.

1458
01:09:00,479 --> 01:09:05,079
Speaker 3: I think that's a really valid criticism. Yeah, it's a

1459
01:09:05,159 --> 01:09:08,319
tough one for me. I really like this. I really

1460
01:09:08,479 --> 01:09:12,039
like this company and I root for them. It's beautiful stuff,

1461
01:09:14,359 --> 01:09:15,079
playable art.

1462
01:09:16,479 --> 01:09:18,720
Speaker 1: Mary, you're playing the Rogue Prince of Persia.

1463
01:09:22,039 --> 01:09:24,720
Speaker 3: No, that's me too. Uh, this is the new one

1464
01:09:24,880 --> 01:09:27,920
from Ubisoft. We loved Prince of Persia when it came out.

1465
01:09:27,960 --> 01:09:36,000
You guys remember Metroid a Venia The Rogue Prince of Persia.

1466
01:09:36,680 --> 01:09:39,840
I was not sure about it. In my first hour

1467
01:09:39,960 --> 01:09:41,800
with it, I was like, I don't know, Like there's

1468
01:09:41,880 --> 01:09:44,640
wall there's some wall running, but it's really limited and

1469
01:09:44,720 --> 01:09:47,680
you get like slowed pretty early. It took me about

1470
01:09:47,880 --> 01:09:51,279
three hours for me to be like, oh shit, I

1471
01:09:51,479 --> 01:09:57,600
fucking love this game. I do actually really like this concept.

1472
01:09:58,760 --> 01:10:02,760
This is one of those uh rogue lights where you

1473
01:10:02,960 --> 01:10:06,640
start every path with a main weapon and a side weapon.

1474
01:10:07,319 --> 01:10:11,399
You as you kill, you gain currency money to upgrade

1475
01:10:11,399 --> 01:10:15,319
your weapons or swap them out. Why don't you sell style? Yeah,

1476
01:10:15,399 --> 01:10:18,359
it's fucking dead cells and they they really did learn

1477
01:10:18,720 --> 01:10:21,000
good lessons here of like what to do with it.

1478
01:10:21,920 --> 01:10:24,399
It is fun to run through all these enemies or

1479
01:10:24,520 --> 01:10:27,239
not because if you're about to die, I just head

1480
01:10:27,279 --> 01:10:29,760
to the final door because then I get a full heel.

1481
01:10:30,520 --> 01:10:33,039
But you're you're not getting all the upgrades for your weapons,

1482
01:10:33,079 --> 01:10:36,079
which you're gonna need around Area two or three because

1483
01:10:36,119 --> 01:10:41,359
it gets so progressively hard. There's boss fights that are

1484
01:10:42,079 --> 01:10:46,079
very tricky and you have to learn their attacks to

1485
01:10:46,159 --> 01:10:48,000
be able to progress. So I was doing I was

1486
01:10:48,039 --> 01:10:50,640
like having killer runs where I was like, I'm unstoppable,

1487
01:10:51,000 --> 01:10:52,800
but if I was coming across the boss, i'd never

1488
01:10:52,840 --> 01:10:56,359
come across before. I'm probably gonna die because you got

1489
01:10:56,439 --> 01:10:58,279
to learn their move sets and then come back to them.

1490
01:10:58,600 --> 01:11:02,279
But starting runs over again not a problem. There's also,

1491
01:11:02,600 --> 01:11:05,920
as expected, a permanent currency that you are getting every

1492
01:11:06,000 --> 01:11:08,800
time you do a run. You can lose it if

1493
01:11:08,840 --> 01:11:12,319
you do not send it home. There's only certain shrines

1494
01:11:12,319 --> 01:11:14,159
where get to send this. I think it's like a

1495
01:11:14,399 --> 01:11:16,840
I'm just gonna call it purple currency because it's purple

1496
01:11:17,479 --> 01:11:19,239
and you have to get to these purple shrines in

1497
01:11:19,359 --> 01:11:21,119
order to send your currency home, and if you don't,

1498
01:11:21,199 --> 01:11:25,279
you lose it, which sucks. But every time I was

1499
01:11:25,319 --> 01:11:27,520
doing a run, I was probably sending at least forty

1500
01:11:27,760 --> 01:11:30,960
purples home and over time, I was using that to

1501
01:11:31,119 --> 01:11:33,920
get more flasks, right, so like that I could heal

1502
01:11:34,000 --> 01:11:40,119
twice per run. Oh my god, fucking amazing, or increase

1503
01:11:40,199 --> 01:11:43,800
my damage or have more health, which is I think

1504
01:11:43,880 --> 01:11:45,680
the most important thing. When you start this game. You're

1505
01:11:45,720 --> 01:11:49,560
so squishy, you die almost instantly all the time. If

1506
01:11:49,600 --> 01:11:52,000
you just keep playing, you upgrade your character, you get

1507
01:11:52,079 --> 01:11:54,720
better health. By the end of my times there, I

1508
01:11:54,880 --> 01:11:58,119
was like getting like easily four hundred health points per run,

1509
01:11:58,520 --> 01:12:01,239
which was letting me go really far in the game.

1510
01:12:03,039 --> 01:12:05,520
It's got an easy to navigate map system so that

1511
01:12:05,640 --> 01:12:10,000
you can very easily jump to different areas of the map.

1512
01:12:10,159 --> 01:12:13,520
Once you're trying to get to different areas, and Mike,

1513
01:12:13,560 --> 01:12:15,000
you have a face. What's up that face?

1514
01:12:15,359 --> 01:12:19,680
Speaker 1: The art style or like the animations when he's diving,

1515
01:12:20,000 --> 01:12:23,520
it looks almost like there's a comical aspect to it,

1516
01:12:23,720 --> 01:12:27,000
like a lightheartedness to it, like he's there's some of

1517
01:12:27,039 --> 01:12:33,199
the stills he's like this full on, uh think of it.

1518
01:12:33,199 --> 01:12:36,319
Speaker 3: Looks comic Bookie to me. Oh, lots of traversial dance,

1519
01:12:36,680 --> 01:12:40,319
traversal Dan that you will love. This game is all

1520
01:12:40,399 --> 01:12:44,800
about wall running, jumping on like poles, stix. Oh, environmental

1521
01:12:44,880 --> 01:12:48,359
damage out the ass. The game's constantly like, here's a

1522
01:12:48,399 --> 01:12:52,319
big ass enemy, but there's spikes behind him, and there's

1523
01:12:52,319 --> 01:12:54,680
a rock in front of you. Kick a rock at him,

1524
01:12:55,359 --> 01:12:58,800
stun him, and then kick that guy right into the spikes.

1525
01:12:58,960 --> 01:13:01,800
He's dead. So it really is pushing you to use

1526
01:13:01,880 --> 01:13:03,279
the environment to your advantage.

1527
01:13:03,840 --> 01:13:07,439
Speaker 2: Okay, did this have like a early access thing or something?

1528
01:13:07,920 --> 01:13:10,039
Speaker 3: I don't know. I don't play. I never play early

1529
01:13:10,119 --> 01:13:10,720
access games.

1530
01:13:10,800 --> 01:13:12,760
Speaker 2: Say I don't either, and so I'm trying to think, like,

1531
01:13:12,760 --> 01:13:16,319
because I know Bank was playing this recently, and I

1532
01:13:16,399 --> 01:13:18,079
remember thinking it was like, oh, didn't that come out?

1533
01:13:18,199 --> 01:13:20,439
Like there was like no hype or anything, and then

1534
01:13:20,520 --> 01:13:22,000
like kind of came out and no one really talked

1535
01:13:22,039 --> 01:13:23,640
about it, and then all of a sudden Bank was

1536
01:13:23,680 --> 01:13:25,920
talking about it, like in the last week, Mary, you're

1537
01:13:25,960 --> 01:13:28,000
bringing it up, And now I'm looking on Steam it

1538
01:13:28,039 --> 01:13:31,279
said release date was August twentieth. So my assumption is

1539
01:13:31,279 --> 01:13:32,880
I probably ignored it because it was early access.

1540
01:13:32,960 --> 01:13:36,359
Speaker 3: That's a sleeper hit. But like, I really think that

1541
01:13:36,479 --> 01:13:39,159
this game is a banger and people should be paying

1542
01:13:39,239 --> 01:13:42,039
more attention to it. I'll give you like some other examples,

1543
01:13:42,119 --> 01:13:45,439
like the weapons sets are really fun. Oh there's also

1544
01:13:45,560 --> 01:13:49,720
badges that you can get that can also amplify the

1545
01:13:49,800 --> 01:13:52,880
weapons that you're choosing. I'll give you an example. I

1546
01:13:53,239 --> 01:13:55,560
ran across to shrine. It was the kind where you

1547
01:13:55,640 --> 01:13:57,880
had to like take some of your health in order

1548
01:13:57,960 --> 01:14:00,439
to get a badge. So I cut myself. It literally

1549
01:14:00,439 --> 01:14:02,239
has an animation for you slit your wrist, which is

1550
01:14:02,319 --> 01:14:05,520
so sick. And I got this badge that said that

1551
01:14:05,800 --> 01:14:08,359
if I attacked a certain amount of enemies in a row,

1552
01:14:08,680 --> 01:14:10,800
they would all get stun locked at the same time.

1553
01:14:10,880 --> 01:14:12,359
And I was like, oh, that's a sweet badge. So

1554
01:14:12,399 --> 01:14:14,840
I apply this badge, and then I get a weapon

1555
01:14:15,359 --> 01:14:20,199
that's like does poison damage. And then I got another

1556
01:14:20,359 --> 01:14:23,319
badge that if they get stun locked, they get poisoned.

1557
01:14:23,800 --> 01:14:28,319
And so now I'm like double poisoning stunlocking them. I'm

1558
01:14:28,439 --> 01:14:31,960
slashing them, stunning them, re poisoning them. I was the

1559
01:14:32,039 --> 01:14:36,239
poisoned Queen. Everybody was pukin. I was killing it. I

1560
01:14:36,319 --> 01:14:39,279
felt really strong when I got a good build in

1561
01:14:39,359 --> 01:14:42,039
this game, and when I was unlucky and died, I

1562
01:14:42,199 --> 01:14:45,640
wasn't angry because I was like, these runs are pretty easy.

1563
01:14:45,800 --> 01:14:49,560
I can just try again. This has that rogue light

1564
01:14:49,680 --> 01:14:52,279
mentality to it, where you can just you just do

1565
01:14:52,439 --> 01:14:54,319
it again and you're gonna be absolutely fine. But it

1566
01:14:54,319 --> 01:15:01,159
adds a lot more maneuverability of like maneuvering around all

1567
01:15:01,279 --> 01:15:06,560
of these spikes and chains and saws that are coming

1568
01:15:06,640 --> 01:15:08,880
at you from all directions. If you can get through

1569
01:15:08,920 --> 01:15:11,960
those elements, they usually give you extra badges or extra

1570
01:15:12,079 --> 01:15:15,399
money or extra coins to reward you. Finally, there's also

1571
01:15:15,479 --> 01:15:17,640
story elements. You can run into somebody and they'll be like,

1572
01:15:18,239 --> 01:15:21,359
i'll help you, but I need this book. Hopefully you

1573
01:15:21,439 --> 01:15:23,199
come across it on that run. But if you die,

1574
01:15:23,359 --> 01:15:25,680
then hopefully on a future run, you'll come across this book.

1575
01:15:25,760 --> 01:15:27,000
And then if you go back and give it to

1576
01:15:27,079 --> 01:15:29,920
that guy, then he'll be at your home base. And

1577
01:15:30,079 --> 01:15:32,720
now you can start cooking up new weapons and new

1578
01:15:32,800 --> 01:15:36,239
badges and new stuff. I saved a lady, and now

1579
01:15:36,520 --> 01:15:39,000
I can change all the colors of my cool outfit.

1580
01:15:39,319 --> 01:15:41,680
So you're constantly like saving people, and then they come

1581
01:15:41,720 --> 01:15:43,920
back to homebase and you can use them for upgrades.

1582
01:15:44,720 --> 01:15:47,359
Speaker 2: Cool. I'm super interested in trying this now, and I

1583
01:15:47,479 --> 01:15:50,840
just downloaded it. But like I speaks to like, I've

1584
01:15:51,079 --> 01:15:53,159
never been a fan of the early access stuff, and

1585
01:15:53,439 --> 01:15:55,159
I'm not a business person. Well, I guess I am.

1586
01:15:55,199 --> 01:15:57,920
I guess I own a company, but I guess I

1587
01:15:57,960 --> 01:15:58,439
can't say that.

1588
01:15:58,680 --> 01:16:02,720
Speaker 3: Owner dan right, I guess a business person.

1589
01:16:02,840 --> 01:16:05,840
Speaker 2: All right, I own a business, but I'm not in

1590
01:16:05,920 --> 01:16:10,359
the games making business. I feel like you lose something

1591
01:16:10,439 --> 01:16:12,520
when it's like, Okay, you're gonna get a little bit

1592
01:16:12,640 --> 01:16:14,760
of a wave of people talking about something when it

1593
01:16:14,800 --> 01:16:16,840
comes out in early access, and then by the time

1594
01:16:16,880 --> 01:16:18,800
it actually comes out, like I did not hear that

1595
01:16:18,880 --> 01:16:19,279
this game.

1596
01:16:20,079 --> 01:16:21,920
Speaker 1: I did not know what this game came out in

1597
01:16:22,239 --> 01:16:24,319
earlier this year, or was early access earlier this.

1598
01:16:24,399 --> 01:16:27,199
Speaker 2: Year, And if it had not been for Bonk playing

1599
01:16:27,239 --> 01:16:28,880
it in the last week and you bring it up here,

1600
01:16:29,399 --> 01:16:30,840
I would not have thought to look this up and

1601
01:16:30,920 --> 01:16:33,560
be like, oh shit, I guess that game is done now. Yeah, Like,

1602
01:16:33,640 --> 01:16:35,520
I just feel like you lose something by like kind

1603
01:16:35,560 --> 01:16:38,560
of spreading the attention of the launch.

1604
01:16:38,640 --> 01:16:38,800
Speaker 1: You know.

1605
01:16:39,319 --> 01:16:41,279
Speaker 3: I'm curious what Mike thinks about this, but I feel

1606
01:16:41,279 --> 01:16:42,880
like most of the time early access is a way

1607
01:16:42,960 --> 01:16:47,119
for a game company to genuinely gauge and fix their game.

1608
01:16:47,239 --> 01:16:48,920
They need to like buy a little bit more time,

1609
01:16:49,319 --> 01:16:50,640
and this is a way to be like it's on

1610
01:16:50,720 --> 01:16:53,560
early access, you can like buy it now, but we

1611
01:16:53,720 --> 01:16:57,000
still needed another six months to cook it. So that's

1612
01:16:57,119 --> 01:16:57,880
what I think they.

1613
01:16:57,920 --> 01:17:00,359
Speaker 1: Use it for. Yeah, I mean for every game that

1614
01:17:00,600 --> 01:17:03,239
you don't realize release. You also have Balder's Gate three

1615
01:17:03,560 --> 01:17:06,199
or Haiti's games that used early access.

1616
01:17:06,439 --> 01:17:07,319
Speaker 2: Well one of those was good.

1617
01:17:09,000 --> 01:17:11,800
Speaker 1: Palder's Gate three is the biggest early access success story

1618
01:17:11,920 --> 01:17:15,000
that's ever existing. I know you're, yes, you're being a heel,

1619
01:17:15,600 --> 01:17:18,119
but yeah, no, I mean there's value to not everybody

1620
01:17:18,239 --> 01:17:21,640
uses it the same way. There's definitely studios that are

1621
01:17:21,720 --> 01:17:24,399
working really closely with their dedicated players, And I think

1622
01:17:25,239 --> 01:17:28,079
something like Balder's Gate three worked because you can replay

1623
01:17:28,119 --> 01:17:30,920
that first act so many times that even the people

1624
01:17:30,920 --> 01:17:32,520
who were really dedicated to it are the people who

1625
01:17:32,520 --> 01:17:34,720
had dipped into it and then dipped out, were like, well,

1626
01:17:34,760 --> 01:17:36,359
now I could just play with a new character or

1627
01:17:36,520 --> 01:17:38,960
make different choices. Haiti's same thing was a Rogue Light,

1628
01:17:39,039 --> 01:17:43,800
where it's like now they were able to like fine

1629
01:17:43,840 --> 01:17:46,239
tune so many small things out each weapon because what

1630
01:17:46,319 --> 01:17:49,560
people were telling them. And in a way, you're getting

1631
01:17:50,199 --> 01:17:53,000
QA testers to pay you to play the game and

1632
01:17:53,079 --> 01:17:55,119
not the other way. Around, so yeah, but.

1633
01:17:55,239 --> 01:17:57,560
Speaker 2: I'm sure there are Like, I'm sure there are dozens

1634
01:17:57,640 --> 01:17:59,880
of reasons that it does make a lot of sense

1635
01:18:00,119 --> 01:18:02,239
business wise and dev wise. But I'm just saying in

1636
01:18:02,359 --> 01:18:05,199
terms of like release hype, it would you know, like

1637
01:18:05,720 --> 01:18:08,720
or just a knowledge of it coming out or being

1638
01:18:08,760 --> 01:18:10,640
done or whatever. I think it does kind of hurt there,

1639
01:18:10,680 --> 01:18:13,159
But maybe the other stuff that weighs it.

1640
01:18:13,239 --> 01:18:15,000
Speaker 1: I don't know. It depends on the kind of game.

1641
01:18:15,079 --> 01:18:16,680
I mean, there are plenty of games that are fucking

1642
01:18:16,760 --> 01:18:19,359
blowing up now that technically have never left early access.

1643
01:18:20,640 --> 01:18:23,960
Like it was Deeprocylactic had more players during early access

1644
01:18:24,000 --> 01:18:26,119
than it did after quote unquote one point zero and

1645
01:18:26,159 --> 01:18:28,079
one point oh g secondary pubg.

1646
01:18:28,439 --> 01:18:29,720
Speaker 2: Was a phenomenon before it came out.

1647
01:18:29,800 --> 01:18:31,319
Speaker 1: Yeah, it depends in the kind of game. Like I

1648
01:18:31,399 --> 01:18:34,479
think Hades two is a unique case for me, where

1649
01:18:35,640 --> 01:18:37,359
same with Darkest Dungeon two. It's like, I know what

1650
01:18:37,439 --> 01:18:39,920
the final game will sort of be like structurally, and

1651
01:18:40,000 --> 01:18:41,840
I want to just wait and see what it's going

1652
01:18:41,880 --> 01:18:46,039
to be like, Whereas something like Deeprocylactic, for instance, was like,

1653
01:18:46,039 --> 01:18:49,680
all right, well, this is a small loop played out

1654
01:18:49,760 --> 01:18:52,159
over however many times I want to play it as

1655
01:18:52,199 --> 01:18:54,000
a live service game, so I'm going to play a

1656
01:18:54,039 --> 01:18:55,560
lot now and then I'll come back to see what

1657
01:18:55,640 --> 01:18:59,880
they tweak later. It's not like Hades, where you're playing

1658
01:19:00,199 --> 01:19:05,159
the entire loop with only certain tools unlocked, which feels incomplete,

1659
01:19:05,199 --> 01:19:07,520
more and complete to me than if I was just

1660
01:19:08,199 --> 01:19:10,319
repeating the same loop and then kind I don't know

1661
01:19:10,359 --> 01:19:10,960
if that makes sense.

1662
01:19:11,039 --> 01:19:12,520
Speaker 2: Yeah, no, no it does, because that's how I was

1663
01:19:12,560 --> 01:19:15,079
with like Rogue Legacy too. Like I have played Rogue Legacy,

1664
01:19:15,239 --> 01:19:17,720
the original one on like three different consoles to completion

1665
01:19:17,760 --> 01:19:19,439
because I loved that game so much, and I was

1666
01:19:19,479 --> 01:19:21,840
so excited about two. And then like it launched an

1667
01:19:21,880 --> 01:19:23,479
early access and I was like, man, I'm such a fan.

1668
01:19:23,520 --> 01:19:24,840
I got I got to play to the early access,

1669
01:19:24,960 --> 01:19:27,439
and like I got in. I was excited. I played

1670
01:19:27,479 --> 01:19:29,159
that first area a couple of times. Then you see

1671
01:19:29,199 --> 01:19:30,920
like a text thing being like we can't wait to

1672
01:19:31,000 --> 01:19:33,840
keep making this game. I'm like, uh okay, and then

1673
01:19:33,880 --> 01:19:36,039
by the time it's like actually out, I'm like, yeah,

1674
01:19:36,279 --> 01:19:38,279
I kind of played that. I don't know, I'm done,

1675
01:19:38,399 --> 01:19:40,840
you know, Like it's I That's why I'm not touching

1676
01:19:40,880 --> 01:19:43,640
Haites too. Like I loaded up for like very short

1677
01:19:43,640 --> 01:19:44,920
amount of time, and I was like, I'm not going

1678
01:19:45,000 --> 01:19:45,239
to do this.

1679
01:19:45,399 --> 01:19:45,920
Speaker 1: I waited.

1680
01:19:46,239 --> 01:19:49,439
Speaker 2: Hades was an early access success story, like a big one,

1681
01:19:49,520 --> 01:19:52,479
and like, I waited until one point oh yeah, and

1682
01:19:52,520 --> 01:19:54,199
I'm glad I did because I fucking loved Hades and

1683
01:19:54,279 --> 01:19:56,159
it wasn't like oh I kind of played it a

1684
01:19:56,199 --> 01:19:58,000
bunch of times before it actually came out, you know.

1685
01:19:58,600 --> 01:20:01,600
Speaker 1: Yeah. Yeah, it's it's a per game thing. Like Darkest

1686
01:20:01,640 --> 01:20:03,239
Dungeon two. I tried and I just straight up did

1687
01:20:03,279 --> 01:20:04,800
not like it, even though the first game is one

1688
01:20:04,800 --> 01:20:08,880
of my favorites in the last decade fifteen years, and

1689
01:20:08,920 --> 01:20:11,560
they've changed it fairly drastically. They've released a DLC that's

1690
01:20:11,600 --> 01:20:13,159
more like the first game, and I have not tried

1691
01:20:13,199 --> 01:20:17,000
it yet, but yeah, there's like risk of Rain two.

1692
01:20:17,199 --> 01:20:20,640
I remember it was another out outlier where I played

1693
01:20:20,680 --> 01:20:23,279
a lot of it in early excess and I played

1694
01:20:23,319 --> 01:20:25,680
straight through one point oh without even realizing that it

1695
01:20:25,800 --> 01:20:29,640
was one point oh. It's just I guess that one

1696
01:20:29,720 --> 01:20:33,439
point oh release day. It can be so nebulous whether

1697
01:20:33,479 --> 01:20:35,680
it's going to be important for that particular dev or

1698
01:20:35,720 --> 01:20:39,479
that game, whereas Haites like I feel like they're going

1699
01:20:39,560 --> 01:20:42,520
to build up to it really well with two, just

1700
01:20:42,640 --> 01:20:44,319
because One was one of those games where it's like

1701
01:20:44,319 --> 01:20:46,039
a lot of people were playing it and saying it

1702
01:20:46,159 --> 01:20:48,119
was good, but then all of a sudden it blew

1703
01:20:48,239 --> 01:20:50,880
up on switch and like now I feel like two

1704
01:20:51,039 --> 01:20:55,279
is in that unique position where people are I think

1705
01:20:55,319 --> 01:20:57,399
that release day will be huge because I.

1706
01:20:57,399 --> 01:20:59,560
Speaker 2: Mean, it was a different anomaly that Hades is so

1707
01:20:59,720 --> 01:21:02,000
fucked big that, like, you know, during Game of the

1708
01:21:02,079 --> 01:21:03,760
Year last year, I heard people of Giant Bomb talking

1709
01:21:03,760 --> 01:21:05,359
about a bunch of stuff it does that that was

1710
01:21:05,399 --> 01:21:08,760
already implemented, and it's like, shit, that sounds awesome. And

1711
01:21:09,000 --> 01:21:11,079
by the time it comes out and that's all implemented,

1712
01:21:11,479 --> 01:21:14,800
Hades is big enough to where it will absolutely get

1713
01:21:15,039 --> 01:21:15,960
Did it win the Game.

1714
01:21:15,840 --> 01:21:16,560
Speaker 3: Award that year.

1715
01:21:18,159 --> 01:21:21,159
Speaker 1: For or that it takes twenty twenty might have been

1716
01:21:21,319 --> 01:21:23,840
it takes two years. No, no, no, no, it takes

1717
01:21:23,880 --> 01:21:26,560
two years. I think was Reternal year, so it's the

1718
01:21:26,640 --> 01:21:27,800
year before twenty twenty.

1719
01:21:28,119 --> 01:21:30,199
Speaker 2: I can't remember if it won, but anyway, it was.

1720
01:21:30,319 --> 01:21:33,399
It's Hades is undeniably a huge fucking game to where

1721
01:21:33,439 --> 01:21:35,399
it's like, look when that comes out, that's gonna be

1722
01:21:35,439 --> 01:21:37,880
a big hit no matter what. But other ones I

1723
01:21:38,079 --> 01:21:40,079
think you kind of mute the release by doing it

1724
01:21:40,159 --> 01:21:40,479
this way.

1725
01:21:40,720 --> 01:21:43,640
Speaker 1: Oh wait, twenty twenty was the last of US Part two?

1726
01:21:43,920 --> 01:21:49,079
Is that the same year? Yeah? Yeah, I don't I

1727
01:21:49,199 --> 01:21:54,039
might be mixing up some uh you back at twenty twenty.

1728
01:21:55,000 --> 01:21:56,119
Speaker 2: That sounds right, That sounds right?

1729
01:21:56,399 --> 01:22:02,840
Speaker 1: Yeah, but yeah, no, I I It just depends on

1730
01:22:02,920 --> 01:22:05,239
the game for sure, because it does. Yeah, I don't

1731
01:22:05,239 --> 01:22:06,880
want touch Hades two and I don't want to go

1732
01:22:06,920 --> 01:22:08,920
back to Dark and Unde two until they potentially fix

1733
01:22:09,000 --> 01:22:12,920
some of my gripes. But what's the game I'm playing?

1734
01:22:13,000 --> 01:22:16,159
This's early access. I don't know, Towered de Mendion. They're

1735
01:22:16,159 --> 01:22:17,520
still working out a lot of it, but I'm still

1736
01:22:17,560 --> 01:22:19,479
playing that because the loops feels so solid to me.

1737
01:22:19,600 --> 01:22:23,840
Now oh they are Billions was technically like the early

1738
01:22:23,920 --> 01:22:25,720
access Forever and I played that so much because I

1739
01:22:25,760 --> 01:22:27,479
didn't give a shit about the single player campaign. I

1740
01:22:27,520 --> 01:22:31,840
just want to keep doing the endless survival mode. But yeah,

1741
01:22:31,920 --> 01:22:35,319
glad to hear. I want to try a Rogue prints

1742
01:22:35,359 --> 01:22:36,239
of Perga as well, because it.

1743
01:22:36,279 --> 01:22:38,119
Speaker 2: So I just been a note for myself like that.

1744
01:22:38,359 --> 01:22:44,079
Speaker 1: That sounds cool, speaking of maybe a similar game, shinoby Dan,

1745
01:22:44,199 --> 01:22:44,920
how's that going.

1746
01:22:44,880 --> 01:22:47,800
Speaker 2: Oh fuck, I beat it a couple of days ago.

1747
01:22:48,960 --> 01:22:52,479
I have never played a Shnoby game before this, so

1748
01:22:52,600 --> 01:22:54,680
keep in mind anything I say about it has no

1749
01:22:55,000 --> 01:22:58,399
basis in nostologia at all. Somehow, despite being kind of

1750
01:22:58,399 --> 01:23:01,159
a Genesis kid, I never came across this game, and

1751
01:23:01,159 --> 01:23:02,159
then my friends ever had it.

1752
01:23:02,239 --> 01:23:03,399
Speaker 1: I just never played this game.

1753
01:23:04,920 --> 01:23:08,920
Speaker 2: Holy shit, every single thing you would want a game

1754
01:23:09,000 --> 01:23:11,800
like this to do, Like you know, two D style

1755
01:23:11,960 --> 01:23:13,079
ish ninja.

1756
01:23:12,840 --> 01:23:15,520
Speaker 1: Game, Like it is kneeling like it's awesome, it's.

1757
01:23:15,439 --> 01:23:18,760
Speaker 2: Fucking the art style incredible, Like the first area you're

1758
01:23:18,800 --> 01:23:20,800
running through is just so beautiful, and it's just one

1759
01:23:20,840 --> 01:23:25,439
after another of that, and the combat is any talk

1760
01:23:25,479 --> 01:23:27,640
about Prince of Persia, it reminds me of Lost Crown,

1761
01:23:27,720 --> 01:23:30,159
where it's like, boy, it's kind of just nailing everything.

1762
01:23:30,199 --> 01:23:32,479
Although Prince Persia didn't quite nail the art style or

1763
01:23:32,560 --> 01:23:35,199
the story, it was doing all these like combat and

1764
01:23:35,359 --> 01:23:39,159
platforming and boss fight stuff, so well, this is very

1765
01:23:39,319 --> 01:23:42,239
much that way. Like immediately, you know, you start with

1766
01:23:42,319 --> 01:23:45,239
the double jump, and you've got the kind of roll

1767
01:23:45,359 --> 01:23:47,159
on the ground that's the dash in the air, and

1768
01:23:47,239 --> 01:23:50,720
it's it's not it's not like fully Metroid Vanya and that. Like,

1769
01:23:50,800 --> 01:23:52,880
when I think of a traditional Metroid venia, it's like

1770
01:23:52,880 --> 01:23:54,680
you're probably playing for four or five hours before you

1771
01:23:54,760 --> 01:23:57,079
get that double jump or the air dash or something

1772
01:23:57,159 --> 01:23:58,800
like that. This one it's just like, no, you got

1773
01:23:58,840 --> 01:24:01,520
all that shit right away, and you are collecting stuff

1774
01:24:01,520 --> 01:24:03,760
as you go. You're getting all this like ninpoh magic

1775
01:24:03,840 --> 01:24:07,359
abilities and things like that, and really fucking cool traversal

1776
01:24:07,399 --> 01:24:09,760
stuff like the Ninja hook, which is this grappling hook

1777
01:24:09,800 --> 01:24:12,640
that feels great, or these claws that like certain walls

1778
01:24:12,680 --> 01:24:15,000
you can climb up and it resets your air dash

1779
01:24:15,119 --> 01:24:16,319
and double jump and all that stuff.

1780
01:24:16,399 --> 01:24:17,840
Speaker 3: Animations are so crisp.

1781
01:24:18,239 --> 01:24:21,880
Speaker 2: Oh my god, it looks incredible. It feels incredible. The

1782
01:24:22,039 --> 01:24:24,439
boss fights are so get's my favorite type of boss

1783
01:24:24,479 --> 01:24:26,239
fight where the first time you fight every one of them,

1784
01:24:26,319 --> 01:24:28,600
they just whoop your ass and then you kind of like, okay,

1785
01:24:28,680 --> 01:24:30,159
I get this, I get this. Oh here's how I

1786
01:24:30,199 --> 01:24:32,279
dodge this. Okay, And by the time you're three, four

1787
01:24:32,319 --> 01:24:34,439
or five times in, you're like, yeah, I can do this.

1788
01:24:34,720 --> 01:24:37,039
I know the pattern and you do and the way

1789
01:24:37,119 --> 01:24:39,279
even the style when you kill a boss fight and

1790
01:24:39,359 --> 01:24:41,359
it does this like just a bunch of symbols show

1791
01:24:41,399 --> 01:24:42,840
up on the screen. It goes, you know, kind of

1792
01:24:43,239 --> 01:24:45,800
monochromatic and everything, and it's just like I was like cheering,

1793
01:24:45,920 --> 01:24:48,439
like some boss fights, I would get that last killing. Yeah,

1794
01:24:48,600 --> 01:24:51,439
Like it's a little symbol pops up over enemies heads

1795
01:24:51,439 --> 01:24:53,439
when you can do an execution move, which is the

1796
01:24:53,479 --> 01:24:55,840
old LB and you hit RB and so like you

1797
01:24:55,920 --> 01:24:57,760
can do that with standard enemies too. So let's say

1798
01:24:57,760 --> 01:25:00,600
there's like three ninjas on the screen. You can kind

1799
01:25:00,600 --> 01:25:02,600
of get them all down low enough to where they've

1800
01:25:02,600 --> 01:25:04,640
got the execution thing and if three of them have

1801
01:25:04,720 --> 01:25:07,199
it and you hit the thing, you just kill all

1802
01:25:07,239 --> 01:25:10,359
of them, blood gold coming out of them. It just

1803
01:25:10,399 --> 01:25:14,720
feels so fucking cool every time it is. You unlock

1804
01:25:14,800 --> 01:25:17,760
a lot of different combat abilities and it never feels

1805
01:25:17,920 --> 01:25:19,640
overwhelming and that like, oh I forget how to do

1806
01:25:19,760 --> 01:25:22,039
this or whatever, Like you feel in control. So I

1807
01:25:22,239 --> 01:25:24,479
feel like I'm going to dash into here, I'm gonna

1808
01:25:24,560 --> 01:25:26,279
knock this guy up in the air, jump up, boom,

1809
01:25:26,279 --> 01:25:28,439
boom boom, do a little air combo, and then I'm

1810
01:25:28,479 --> 01:25:29,920
going to do a dive kick down ont of these

1811
01:25:29,920 --> 01:25:31,279
guys on the ground and then if I hold why

1812
01:25:31,399 --> 01:25:33,319
after the dive kick, I do this spinning thing that

1813
01:25:33,399 --> 01:25:35,039
chops them all up, and then I'll do my ninpo.

1814
01:25:35,119 --> 01:25:38,439
It's just it you feel like neo like in the Matrix,

1815
01:25:38,600 --> 01:25:41,239
like just like I am just nailing everything. I'm kicking

1816
01:25:41,319 --> 01:25:42,079
everyone's ass.

1817
01:25:42,199 --> 01:25:43,000
Speaker 1: It is so great.

1818
01:25:43,199 --> 01:25:44,720
Speaker 2: There's a shielded guy, so I know I'm going to

1819
01:25:44,760 --> 01:25:45,880
do the thing where I jump and I bring my

1820
01:25:45,920 --> 01:25:48,079
sword down on him that breaks shields, and then I'll

1821
01:25:48,119 --> 01:25:50,119
equip this ninpo and do the air thing like it's

1822
01:25:51,239 --> 01:25:55,279
it is tremendous and it is heavy on combat. It

1823
01:25:55,399 --> 01:25:57,119
being like this kind of like really kind of Ninja

1824
01:25:57,279 --> 01:25:59,760
Melee focus game, so like every time you get to

1825
01:26:00,119 --> 01:26:01,880
like it's not really an arena, but like there are

1826
01:26:01,920 --> 01:26:04,920
these like elite combat challenges where it's waves of enemies.

1827
01:26:05,239 --> 01:26:07,439
I fucking love that. And then once you're done with it,

1828
01:26:08,359 --> 01:26:10,520
it opens up a lot of these areas into Metroidvania.

1829
01:26:10,800 --> 01:26:14,680
So it's like it's not a full, big, sprawling Metroidvania, Matt.

1830
01:26:14,880 --> 01:26:17,279
A lot of these stages are just like it starts,

1831
01:26:17,319 --> 01:26:18,920
which is like a big path where it's kind of

1832
01:26:18,960 --> 01:26:22,039
linear combat challenges, and then a larger area that is

1833
01:26:22,159 --> 01:26:24,840
a Metroidvania, but it's very easy to kind of warp

1834
01:26:24,880 --> 01:26:27,119
between all these different checkpoints and everything warp between the

1835
01:26:27,159 --> 01:26:31,319
different stages, lots of fun collectibles and shit to get

1836
01:26:31,760 --> 01:26:33,319
lots of you know, things you can buy at the

1837
01:26:33,359 --> 01:26:37,000
stores for like new abilities, and it is, oh my god.

1838
01:26:37,159 --> 01:26:39,000
I I went in just being like, I guess I'll

1839
01:26:39,039 --> 01:26:41,520
try this, you know, assuming that I Ninja Guiden rage Bound,

1840
01:26:41,560 --> 01:26:43,920
which came out like a few weeks prior, that that

1841
01:26:44,000 --> 01:26:46,199
would be more of my thing, because that's also very good.

1842
01:26:46,520 --> 01:26:48,520
And I've also played like every Ninja Guiden game and

1843
01:26:48,560 --> 01:26:52,239
I love Ninja Guiden rage Bound is very very good. Shanobi,

1844
01:26:52,439 --> 01:26:55,880
I think definitely the better game, but it's so fucking cool.

1845
01:26:56,039 --> 01:26:59,079
These two kind of throwback Ninja games came out very

1846
01:26:59,119 --> 01:26:59,840
close proximity.

1847
01:27:00,000 --> 01:27:00,800
Speaker 1: They both kick ass.

1848
01:27:01,079 --> 01:27:02,880
Speaker 2: But like this, this is my pick. This will be

1849
01:27:03,720 --> 01:27:05,039
pretty high up on my game of the year.

1850
01:27:05,079 --> 01:27:09,319
Speaker 3: I think, how do you upgrade your skills? And do

1851
01:27:09,399 --> 01:27:11,720
you get like choice like will my character be different

1852
01:27:11,760 --> 01:27:13,880
than yours or are you basically just upgrading things through

1853
01:27:13,920 --> 01:27:15,960
time Linearly you could make.

1854
01:27:15,920 --> 01:27:18,239
Speaker 2: Choice on like certain like amulets, like there's a passive

1855
01:27:18,279 --> 01:27:20,439
amulet you can equip, and so it's like okay, so

1856
01:27:20,479 --> 01:27:23,760
I want this to be okay, healing is more effective,

1857
01:27:24,520 --> 01:27:26,079
or you can turn on this amulet that's like a

1858
01:27:26,239 --> 01:27:29,199
vampire where it's like enemies won't drop health, but as

1859
01:27:29,279 --> 01:27:32,239
you attack enemies, you will siphon their health. And then

1860
01:27:32,279 --> 01:27:34,399
there are like a combo amulet where it's like, okay,

1861
01:27:34,439 --> 01:27:37,399
after fifteen hits, all of my attacks do more damage,

1862
01:27:37,479 --> 01:27:40,279
or after this many hits, this ninpo has this added

1863
01:27:40,359 --> 01:27:42,960
ability and things like that, so you can equip certain

1864
01:27:43,000 --> 01:27:45,520
things to fit your play style certainly. And then like

1865
01:27:45,760 --> 01:27:49,039
you'll unlock like eight different ninpo like magic abilities, and

1866
01:27:49,159 --> 01:27:51,479
you can choose which face button to map it to,

1867
01:27:51,600 --> 01:27:53,800
because it's like hold LB and press a face button

1868
01:27:53,840 --> 01:27:56,239
to activate the ninpo and you can choose which ones

1869
01:27:56,239 --> 01:27:58,079
you want. So like, you know, you'll go into a

1870
01:27:58,159 --> 01:28:00,319
fight with certain shielded enemies and it's like we'll all

1871
01:28:00,359 --> 01:28:02,840
equip these two an inpos that are better for breaking armor.

1872
01:28:04,079 --> 01:28:06,159
This one builds my rage meter faster, so I could

1873
01:28:06,159 --> 01:28:08,439
do my super attack more. So there are different things

1874
01:28:08,520 --> 01:28:10,520
you can equip to make it more you know, fitting

1875
01:28:10,560 --> 01:28:12,760
of your play style for sure, but it's not it's

1876
01:28:12,800 --> 01:28:14,680
not full on, just like I'm creating a character and

1877
01:28:14,800 --> 01:28:17,159
you're a stealth build and I'm a whatever build. It's

1878
01:28:17,920 --> 01:28:22,359
not quite that level, but there is customization there. It's

1879
01:28:22,439 --> 01:28:25,359
it's tremendous. I went in just to be like, I'll

1880
01:28:25,399 --> 01:28:26,920
try it so I can talk about it on I'm

1881
01:28:26,960 --> 01:28:27,359
sure you.

1882
01:28:27,439 --> 01:28:28,359
Speaker 3: Win, do you it?

1883
01:28:28,560 --> 01:28:29,279
Speaker 1: I beat it? Yeah?

1884
01:28:29,960 --> 01:28:31,600
Speaker 3: How long was the experience?

1885
01:28:32,319 --> 01:28:35,640
Speaker 2: I got to probably like ninety five percent completion in

1886
01:28:35,760 --> 01:28:38,399
about twelve hours. And but in keep in mind, I

1887
01:28:38,560 --> 01:28:40,399
was trying to like kind of get everything. I was

1888
01:28:40,479 --> 01:28:42,479
gone one hundred percent, but there were like certain like

1889
01:28:42,520 --> 01:28:45,279
there were these like different rift challenges in every level

1890
01:28:45,600 --> 01:28:49,319
that are like really hard platforming challenges, and all.

1891
01:28:49,439 --> 01:28:51,479
Speaker 3: Hard platforming challenges.

1892
01:28:51,800 --> 01:28:52,399
Speaker 1: Is this for me?

1893
01:28:53,039 --> 01:28:55,279
Speaker 2: Mary, you gotta try this and it is a tremendous

1894
01:28:55,279 --> 01:28:56,560
sho we swip swap.

1895
01:28:56,680 --> 01:28:58,840
Speaker 3: Why don't you play Rogue Prints of Persia and I'll

1896
01:28:58,880 --> 01:28:59,680
play Schanovy.

1897
01:29:00,039 --> 01:29:01,520
Speaker 2: I already want to play Rogue Prince of Persia. That

1898
01:29:01,560 --> 01:29:06,399
sounds both about Mary. You got to try Silk Song

1899
01:29:06,680 --> 01:29:08,119
and yeah, we'll talk next time.

1900
01:29:09,319 --> 01:29:12,560
Speaker 1: I really like indie games. Prince of Persian isn't really

1901
01:29:12,560 --> 01:29:14,439
an indie game, so I'm kind of leaning toward Dance,

1902
01:29:14,479 --> 01:29:17,640
which is actually or now neither of you accomplished, but

1903
01:29:17,720 --> 01:29:19,880
it's developed by I'm.

1904
01:29:19,720 --> 01:29:22,560
Speaker 3: Going to get into Warhammer and then teach how to play.

1905
01:29:24,000 --> 01:29:26,000
Speaker 1: So you recommended a same game, you recommend a Ubi

1906
01:29:26,079 --> 01:29:27,920
Soft game. I don't know. I guess I'll stick to

1907
01:29:28,000 --> 01:29:30,319
Tower Dominion because that's indie the indies.

1908
01:29:30,399 --> 01:29:34,399
Speaker 2: Yeah, I would love to hear what you think. Yeah,

1909
01:29:34,720 --> 01:29:37,840
because this this type of like super heavy action reflex

1910
01:29:37,880 --> 01:29:41,079
type game is not really like Bonxporte. But she's been

1911
01:29:41,119 --> 01:29:42,680
trying out because I've just been raving about it and

1912
01:29:42,760 --> 01:29:45,000
like bonks like ship Okay, Like she's really liking it too.

1913
01:29:45,119 --> 01:29:47,960
Speaker 3: What did you say bank was playing Rogue Prince of Persia?

1914
01:29:48,000 --> 01:29:48,800
What did they think about that?

1915
01:29:49,640 --> 01:29:50,439
Speaker 1: I think she's uh.

1916
01:29:50,840 --> 01:29:53,039
Speaker 2: I think she kind of got sidetracked. I don't want

1917
01:29:53,079 --> 01:29:54,680
to speak for her, but like she was talking about

1918
01:29:54,680 --> 01:29:56,880
that for a bit and then she started Shnobi and

1919
01:29:56,960 --> 01:30:00,560
then she got pretty into that and then well and

1920
01:30:00,640 --> 01:30:02,439
then actually that goes into the next thing that I

1921
01:30:02,520 --> 01:30:05,039
want to talk about is I've been watching her play

1922
01:30:05,119 --> 01:30:08,920
hell as Us because that is so I went to

1923
01:30:09,039 --> 01:30:11,399
that preview event in Montreal where I played like three

1924
01:30:11,439 --> 01:30:14,159
hours a bit and I left very intrigued with what

1925
01:30:14,239 --> 01:30:17,840
it was doing and it's the type of game. I

1926
01:30:17,920 --> 01:30:19,960
don't know if it's necessarily my type of game in

1927
01:30:20,079 --> 01:30:23,199
terms of like enjoying it, but I've been watching Bank

1928
01:30:23,279 --> 01:30:25,960
play it, and it's, uh I have a lot of

1929
01:30:26,079 --> 01:30:27,840
respect for this. Like, do you guys know anything about

1930
01:30:27,840 --> 01:30:29,479
like the approach this game.

1931
01:30:29,800 --> 01:30:31,800
Speaker 1: You talked about it the preview on those oh after

1932
01:30:31,840 --> 01:30:35,279
the preview event, Yeah, where it's like no objective markers,

1933
01:30:35,439 --> 01:30:38,920
no anything like that. It's just like there's no question blog. Yeah.

1934
01:30:39,000 --> 01:30:41,159
Speaker 2: And so it's like, again, my brain sucks, and so

1935
01:30:41,399 --> 01:30:44,079
like I would unless I was taking like elaborate notes

1936
01:30:44,119 --> 01:30:45,680
on everything, I probably would not be able to do it.

1937
01:30:45,920 --> 01:30:48,840
But Bonk has a great brain, and uh so I've

1938
01:30:48,840 --> 01:30:51,640
just been watching her play and it's just so cool

1939
01:30:51,640 --> 01:30:53,399
because you'll run into all these things where it's like,

1940
01:30:53,800 --> 01:30:56,199
why is this woman in a cave? I hear woman's

1941
01:30:56,279 --> 01:30:59,079
voice crying. She's obviously like in a terrible spot, like

1942
01:30:59,079 --> 01:31:00,840
in this cave. I need to find this woman, and

1943
01:31:00,960 --> 01:31:02,319
like you can't figure out how to get to her,

1944
01:31:02,319 --> 01:31:03,600
and so like you have to keep that in the

1945
01:31:03,640 --> 01:31:05,000
back of your head, like, Okay, if I can find

1946
01:31:05,000 --> 01:31:06,319
a way to get to this woman in the cave,

1947
01:31:06,319 --> 01:31:08,640
I gotta go back and save this woman. And then

1948
01:31:08,880 --> 01:31:11,359
you're meeting these groups and villages and stuff and trying

1949
01:31:11,399 --> 01:31:13,079
to find out where your dad is, and people are

1950
01:31:13,119 --> 01:31:15,760
giving you hand drawn maps and stuff because there's no

1951
01:31:15,840 --> 01:31:17,439
map you can go to, so it's just like you

1952
01:31:17,520 --> 01:31:20,039
have to pull up from your inventory, like here's a

1953
01:31:20,199 --> 01:31:22,880
scrap of a map of this village with arrows drawn

1954
01:31:22,960 --> 01:31:27,000
and like sharpie basically, And it really goes out of

1955
01:31:27,039 --> 01:31:30,399
its way to not explain these things or hold your

1956
01:31:30,439 --> 01:31:32,279
hand in any way, like a lot of games say

1957
01:31:32,319 --> 01:31:33,479
that where it's like, oh, we don'tant to hold your

1958
01:31:33,600 --> 01:31:35,880
hand and all this stuff. None of them have committed

1959
01:31:35,960 --> 01:31:40,560
to it in the way that this has. And you

1960
01:31:40,640 --> 01:31:44,439
can see the inspirations of Annihilation, the movie that I

1961
01:31:44,560 --> 01:31:48,840
think we all love. It's tonally it is so dark,

1962
01:31:49,159 --> 01:31:52,760
so creepy, so the music is incredible. The look of

1963
01:31:52,800 --> 01:31:56,600
the enemy is just like super otherworldly faceless husks with

1964
01:31:56,680 --> 01:31:58,840
these like geometry coming out of their chests that you

1965
01:31:58,920 --> 01:32:02,039
have to attack and everything. It's got this oppressive tone

1966
01:32:02,079 --> 01:32:04,880
that is really cool. But also I don't think it's

1967
01:32:04,920 --> 01:32:07,199
a gimmick what they're doing with the like no handholding stuff.

1968
01:32:07,239 --> 01:32:09,279
I think it is like a core part of what

1969
01:32:09,439 --> 01:32:11,319
makes this game special. And it has just been so

1970
01:32:11,439 --> 01:32:12,479
cool watching her play this.

1971
01:32:12,880 --> 01:32:15,000
Speaker 1: So yeah, it's hard to describe.

1972
01:32:15,039 --> 01:32:17,239
Speaker 2: It's not like you could look at it and be like, oh,

1973
01:32:17,359 --> 01:32:19,199
this this looks like a Soul's like type thing. But

1974
01:32:19,279 --> 01:32:21,760
it's like the developers have said, like, now, we're not

1975
01:32:22,239 --> 01:32:23,880
not really what we're looking for with the combat here.

1976
01:32:23,920 --> 01:32:25,720
It's not really a Souls like type thing. It's like

1977
01:32:26,239 --> 01:32:28,359
it is the no handholding, you find your own way

1978
01:32:28,439 --> 01:32:30,119
through it, which is the big hook here.

1979
01:32:30,479 --> 01:32:33,680
Speaker 1: Hmm, it looks rad I want to very The preview

1980
01:32:33,720 --> 01:32:35,359
event sounded kind of up my alley.

1981
01:32:36,279 --> 01:32:38,399
Speaker 2: I could see you liking it. Yeah, definitely.

1982
01:32:38,479 --> 01:32:40,439
Speaker 1: I don't know. I like games that are like that,

1983
01:32:40,720 --> 01:32:43,439
Like unfortunately these days, I don't have as much time

1984
01:32:43,600 --> 01:32:48,199
for those kind of games. But I whatever they're doing

1985
01:32:48,319 --> 01:32:50,439
to your point, and it's like I respect the hell

1986
01:32:50,479 --> 01:32:52,840
out of it and kind of want to try them out. Yeah,

1987
01:32:52,840 --> 01:32:53,359
it's some funny.

1988
01:32:53,359 --> 01:32:56,479
Speaker 2: It's like the most like oppressively dark game. And I've

1989
01:32:56,520 --> 01:32:58,119
been sitting on the couch next to the bank with

1990
01:32:58,199 --> 01:33:01,680
my switch to playing Chibi Robo like checking and be like, hey,

1991
01:33:01,800 --> 01:33:04,439
are these are these sound effects of this cutesy robot

1992
01:33:04,520 --> 01:33:07,359
game for GameCube? Is this a hurting the atmosphere of

1993
01:33:07,560 --> 01:33:09,880
hell is us? Doesn't bother?

1994
01:33:10,399 --> 01:33:11,439
Speaker 1: How is cheety robo?

1995
01:33:12,439 --> 01:33:14,439
Speaker 2: I'll just say this, and I said it on the BombCast.

1996
01:33:14,560 --> 01:33:18,039
But you know, we we sometimes hear these things of like, oh,

1997
01:33:18,079 --> 01:33:19,800
what's the game that you like everything it's doing, but

1998
01:33:20,039 --> 01:33:22,600
just like one little thing makes it that you can't

1999
01:33:22,680 --> 01:33:25,399
enjoy it. Yeah, this is maybe the most stark example

2000
01:33:25,560 --> 01:33:29,720
I've ever seen where it's the text speed of anybody

2001
01:33:29,840 --> 01:33:34,800
talking to you is glacial would be too generous.

2002
01:33:35,319 --> 01:33:39,560
Speaker 1: It is just a we're where where where where?

2003
01:33:39,640 --> 01:33:41,680
Speaker 2: And you can jam on every fucking button you want.

2004
01:33:42,000 --> 01:33:44,119
It is not going to go any fucking faster, and

2005
01:33:44,239 --> 01:33:46,720
you can accidentally start conversations, and you got to fucking

2006
01:33:46,760 --> 01:33:48,840
sit through this whole thing. And you walk into a

2007
01:33:48,920 --> 01:33:51,039
room and you're just looking forward to exploring and being

2008
01:33:51,039 --> 01:33:53,520
a cute little robot cleaning up some fucking things with

2009
01:33:53,600 --> 01:33:56,640
your toothbrush and finding collectibles and stuff like, oh, that'shit's great.

2010
01:33:56,840 --> 01:33:59,159
I love everything this game is doing, except for the

2011
01:33:59,359 --> 01:34:02,000
amount of times I just go into an area and

2012
01:34:02,119 --> 01:34:08,239
it's like, we're fucking please, I can read faster than this.

2013
01:34:08,600 --> 01:34:10,680
This is not adding anything for the game. It's just

2014
01:34:10,840 --> 01:34:11,720
making me hate.

2015
01:34:11,840 --> 01:34:13,279
Speaker 3: You can't skip it. You can't.

2016
01:34:13,439 --> 01:34:15,479
Speaker 2: You cannot skip it. Like I said this on the

2017
01:34:15,520 --> 01:34:17,039
BombCast and people are like, well, there's like a sixty

2018
01:34:17,079 --> 01:34:18,880
frames a second mod you can do on Dolphin if

2019
01:34:18,880 --> 01:34:20,760
you play in emulating. It was like, no, I want

2020
01:34:20,760 --> 01:34:22,399
to play this on my switch. I would look I

2021
01:34:22,760 --> 01:34:25,079
like emulating, I do Dolphin stuff. I want to just

2022
01:34:25,119 --> 01:34:27,159
sit and play. I was excited about this being on

2023
01:34:27,319 --> 01:34:32,039
the switch online. It's it's like unforgivable, how insane like.

2024
01:34:32,039 --> 01:34:33,840
And there's this one spot I got to where I

2025
01:34:34,000 --> 01:34:35,840
just like put it down finally where it's like there's

2026
01:34:35,880 --> 01:34:38,479
this fucking duck crab thing and a basement and it's

2027
01:34:38,520 --> 01:34:40,960
like a fortune teller and it's like it's basically just

2028
01:34:41,039 --> 01:34:43,439
like a little minigame where it's like you can gamble

2029
01:34:43,680 --> 01:34:45,920
your moolah to see you is my eye going to

2030
01:34:45,960 --> 01:34:47,560
open or not? And it's like, all right, I gamble

2031
01:34:47,640 --> 01:34:50,319
one hundred mulah if you're it's a fifty to fifty gamble.

2032
01:34:51,000 --> 01:34:53,119
I swear to god. It felt like ten minutes. It's

2033
01:34:53,119 --> 01:34:55,880
probably not ten minutes. It's probably like three or four,

2034
01:34:56,279 --> 01:34:59,000
but just for text to go through a gambling minigame

2035
01:34:59,079 --> 01:35:04,800
of like to my eye, oh is my eye going

2036
01:35:05,520 --> 01:35:08,920
to o beIN? Will your money be? And so just

2037
01:35:09,000 --> 01:35:11,560
fucking let me do the thing. It's it's insane. It's

2038
01:35:11,600 --> 01:35:15,079
completely insane. It's a wonderful game, and every other way

2039
01:35:15,359 --> 01:35:17,680
it seems unplayable to me because of this fucking text thing.

2040
01:35:17,920 --> 01:35:19,079
Speaker 3: What's the poor mechanic?

2041
01:35:19,920 --> 01:35:20,520
Speaker 1: It's awesome.

2042
01:35:20,800 --> 01:35:23,119
Speaker 2: It's like it's your tiny guy, big world. It's one

2043
01:35:23,119 --> 01:35:24,920
of my favorite type of the tropes. You're a little

2044
01:35:25,000 --> 01:35:27,640
cute robot. You're going around and it's just like weird

2045
01:35:27,760 --> 01:35:30,239
family and the wife hates to husband, and so you're

2046
01:35:30,279 --> 01:35:32,079
like standing on the table talking to her while she's

2047
01:35:32,079 --> 01:35:33,960
making her coffee about how she hates her husband. Then

2048
01:35:34,000 --> 01:35:36,039
you're talking to the lazy husband about stuff and he's like,

2049
01:35:36,079 --> 01:35:37,479
oh man, you got to clean up this place.

2050
01:35:37,600 --> 01:35:40,880
Speaker 1: It takes too No, no, it's not better than no.

2051
01:35:41,119 --> 01:35:45,159
Speaker 3: It's hanging out with a divorced couple and they're about.

2052
01:35:44,920 --> 01:35:46,560
Speaker 2: To get divorced. I think they're about to get divorced,

2053
01:35:46,600 --> 01:35:49,880
but like, yeah, iving to go around.

2054
01:35:49,920 --> 01:35:50,159
Speaker 3: I got it.

2055
01:35:50,199 --> 01:35:51,880
Speaker 2: I' found a toothpressure now I can go clean up

2056
01:35:51,880 --> 01:35:54,079
all the little dog pop prints on the floor that

2057
01:35:54,159 --> 01:35:55,800
every day there's like a day night cycle and then

2058
01:35:55,880 --> 01:35:57,560
like the dog tracks mut in the house, I'm going

2059
01:35:57,600 --> 01:35:59,000
to clean it up and it makes a cute little

2060
01:35:59,079 --> 01:36:02,279
jingle and you get happy points when you clean up stuff.

2061
01:36:02,359 --> 01:36:04,000
And then you go back to your chiepy house and

2062
01:36:04,119 --> 01:36:08,560
your happy points. What's that happy points are separate from Moulah. Yeah,

2063
01:36:08,640 --> 01:36:11,479
Moulah's money happy point. And then you got the recyclotron

2064
01:36:11,560 --> 01:36:16,239
stuff recycle. Come on, I just wanted to clarify the

2065
01:36:16,319 --> 01:36:20,119
super It's I love everything this is doing. If this

2066
01:36:20,359 --> 01:36:22,560
just let me hit the molas that.

2067
01:36:22,640 --> 01:36:26,239
Speaker 3: You can buy the happy points. Now the happy points, you.

2068
01:36:26,239 --> 01:36:28,159
Speaker 2: Get the chip blast or you get the Chivy copter.

2069
01:36:28,680 --> 01:36:31,159
Speaker 1: The secrets of the game is once you've been uh,

2070
01:36:32,279 --> 01:36:34,640
once you've just evolved into living in a shack near

2071
01:36:34,680 --> 01:36:38,439
the beach with no Mulah, your happy points sore. Oh wow.

2072
01:36:38,560 --> 01:36:42,359
Speaker 3: That's the truth is that you don't need Molah to

2073
01:36:42,479 --> 01:36:43,159
have happy.

2074
01:36:43,039 --> 01:36:44,479
Speaker 1: Just finish that show yesterday again.

2075
01:36:45,880 --> 01:36:49,039
Speaker 2: It's I love everything about this game except for the

2076
01:36:49,159 --> 01:36:51,479
one stupid thing that makes it unplayable. You just passed

2077
01:36:51,479 --> 01:36:53,439
it in to let me hit a to speed through something.

2078
01:36:53,560 --> 01:36:54,479
I'm gonna love that game.

2079
01:36:54,720 --> 01:36:55,600
Speaker 3: That's unfortunate.

2080
01:36:55,920 --> 01:36:56,399
Speaker 1: It sucks.

2081
01:36:56,479 --> 01:36:58,920
Speaker 2: Yeah, and the game doesn't suck, but that element is

2082
01:36:59,119 --> 01:37:00,439
just like unforgive to me.

2083
01:37:01,680 --> 01:37:06,880
Speaker 1: Uh does the text scroll real slowly in Gears on

2084
01:37:07,079 --> 01:37:11,960
PS five? No? Well, but did they still slow you down? Yeah?

2085
01:37:12,000 --> 01:37:12,239
Speaker 3: It does.

2086
01:37:12,279 --> 01:37:16,399
Speaker 2: That's associated with Gears for sure. It's not that bad

2087
01:37:16,439 --> 01:37:16,960
in the first one.

2088
01:37:17,039 --> 01:37:19,800
Speaker 1: Really, the first game is still fun. Yeah.

2089
01:37:19,800 --> 01:37:21,399
Speaker 2: I'm just playing through it with Kaila again. I know,

2090
01:37:21,439 --> 01:37:23,239
I've talked about it when me and Kayla went through

2091
01:37:23,279 --> 01:37:25,239
all of the numbered ones a year or two ago.

2092
01:37:26,000 --> 01:37:26,560
Speaker 1: Doing it again.

2093
01:37:26,760 --> 01:37:29,560
Speaker 2: It's on PlayStation, you know, it's basically just the novelty

2094
01:37:29,600 --> 01:37:32,159
of like, wow, I'm I'm holding the PlayStation controller and

2095
01:37:32,199 --> 01:37:34,760
playing Gears Award. That's crazy, isn't it? Because that's about

2096
01:37:34,840 --> 01:37:37,680
as much of an Xbox branded things like Halo. You know,

2097
01:37:39,039 --> 01:37:42,000
I do think that again, after playing through so much

2098
01:37:42,000 --> 01:37:43,600
Gears in the last couple of years, I think it's

2099
01:37:43,720 --> 01:37:46,880
kind of the series from that era that has aged

2100
01:37:46,920 --> 01:37:50,000
the best. You know, it was good, it was very

2101
01:37:50,000 --> 01:37:52,520
good when it came out, but you play it now

2102
01:37:52,560 --> 01:37:54,520
and like, this is the first Gears and it's not

2103
01:37:54,800 --> 01:37:58,479
like it's like it's not really any different outside of like, oh,

2104
01:37:58,560 --> 01:38:00,479
it's like, you know, the frames per second or whatever

2105
01:38:00,840 --> 01:38:02,600
from the last remake that did a couple of years

2106
01:38:02,600 --> 01:38:05,560
ago or maybe longer than that now. But again, it's

2107
01:38:05,600 --> 01:38:07,159
not like they rebuilt this from the ground up. It's

2108
01:38:07,159 --> 01:38:08,920
pretty much the same game it was in two thousand

2109
01:38:08,920 --> 01:38:11,479
and six, and it's still fucking fun. Like you're Mary,

2110
01:38:11,520 --> 01:38:13,319
I know it has a special place in your heart.

2111
01:38:14,079 --> 01:38:16,880
It holds up, like you know, I don't even have.

2112
01:38:17,000 --> 01:38:19,640
Like I wasn't a huge Gears guy when they came out.

2113
01:38:19,680 --> 01:38:22,119
I respected them, I reviewed them highly and stuff like that,

2114
01:38:22,680 --> 01:38:24,680
but like I wasn't like talking about it a lot,

2115
01:38:24,760 --> 01:38:27,520
But like I think I appreciate Gears more now that

2116
01:38:27,600 --> 01:38:29,920
I've played through them all again recently. Or shit, this

2117
01:38:30,039 --> 01:38:32,159
holds up. It's just a good game. Like I'd rather

2118
01:38:32,199 --> 01:38:34,560
play through the Gears series now than Halo, and Halo's

2119
01:38:34,560 --> 01:38:37,239
also a great series, but I don't know, Gears hold up.

2120
01:38:37,479 --> 01:38:40,119
Speaker 3: Gears was funny. It was like pretty cheeky, and I

2121
01:38:40,199 --> 01:38:44,119
think it had like really decided characters, right, Like it

2122
01:38:44,159 --> 01:38:47,159
had really thoughtful characters that were interacting with each other.

2123
01:38:47,239 --> 01:38:49,000
I thought it was like watching a movie. I just

2124
01:38:49,000 --> 01:38:53,439
thought it was so fun and interesting Gears obviously, like

2125
01:38:53,840 --> 01:38:56,800
I am biased. Gears was like my introduction to games,

2126
01:38:56,960 --> 01:38:59,199
so like I'll always be obsessed with Gears.

2127
01:39:00,159 --> 01:39:02,800
Speaker 2: Might be like the George Washington head on the Mount

2128
01:39:02,880 --> 01:39:05,319
Rushmore of co op games too. You know, it's just

2129
01:39:05,399 --> 01:39:07,479
like it was a game that was made for co op.

2130
01:39:08,119 --> 01:39:10,239
Obviously it's a good game if you played solo, but

2131
01:39:10,359 --> 01:39:12,520
like it is meant to play with a friend or

2132
01:39:12,600 --> 01:39:13,880
later on several friends.

2133
01:39:13,920 --> 01:39:17,359
Speaker 3: You know that makes sense. Well, I'm jealous. I want

2134
01:39:17,399 --> 01:39:21,000
to play through it with somebody, with somebody maybe on

2135
01:39:21,079 --> 01:39:30,800
this podcast, maybe whose name rhymes with Dart for Harty Mike.

2136
01:39:33,000 --> 01:39:34,640
Speaker 2: Mike Mike and Dart Fight.

2137
01:39:36,039 --> 01:39:39,520
Speaker 3: I think, if you think about it, those rhyme No, no,

2138
01:39:41,399 --> 01:39:41,600
are we.

2139
01:39:41,640 --> 01:39:42,560
Speaker 1: Playing Gears for?

2140
01:39:43,600 --> 01:39:44,239
Speaker 3: I would like to.

2141
01:39:44,479 --> 01:39:44,800
Speaker 1: I'll play.

2142
01:39:46,000 --> 01:39:47,119
Speaker 3: I just forgot how to rhyme?

2143
01:39:47,600 --> 01:39:51,840
Speaker 1: Yeah, me too. I got Billy crapp and it will

2144
01:39:51,840 --> 01:39:52,640
help you out next time.

2145
01:39:53,760 --> 01:39:55,119
Speaker 2: Oh we love Billy crapping in here?

2146
01:39:55,720 --> 01:39:56,720
Speaker 3: Is your name not Mart?

2147
01:39:57,520 --> 01:39:57,560
Speaker 1: No?

2148
01:39:58,640 --> 01:40:00,520
Speaker 3: I think old time?

2149
01:40:02,600 --> 01:40:05,000
Speaker 1: Is that why you've called me Mart since you're mad man?

2150
01:40:05,039 --> 01:40:06,359
Speaker 2: I thought that was your intern name.

2151
01:40:06,680 --> 01:40:09,039
Speaker 1: Oh that's Mart Maharty. That'd be sick.

2152
01:40:10,000 --> 01:40:10,760
Speaker 3: I love Mart.

2153
01:40:11,680 --> 01:40:14,039
Speaker 1: I was supposed to be a donna. Did I ever

2154
01:40:14,199 --> 01:40:18,119
told you this? Yeah? Yeah, I haven't told you that

2155
01:40:18,159 --> 01:40:19,680
because I just made it up, so I know, I

2156
01:40:19,760 --> 01:40:20,239
was just playing a lot.

2157
01:40:20,279 --> 01:40:21,000
Speaker 2: I was yes andding you.

2158
01:40:21,079 --> 01:40:22,600
Speaker 1: When's the last time you played? I don't I don't

2159
01:40:22,640 --> 01:40:25,079
have time for improv what when's the last time you played? Uh?

2160
01:40:25,239 --> 01:40:26,520
Replayed Halo? Any of them?

2161
01:40:27,680 --> 01:40:32,039
Speaker 2: Me and Bank played through Halo one and two in

2162
01:40:32,760 --> 01:40:37,600
two thousand and seventeen, and uh they were Uh it

2163
01:40:37,680 --> 01:40:39,479
was very fun. Again, it's it's a great co op game.

2164
01:40:39,520 --> 01:40:40,800
We're sitting on the couch next to each other.

2165
01:40:41,239 --> 01:40:41,760
Speaker 1: It was great.

2166
01:40:42,800 --> 01:40:44,279
Speaker 2: I'm curious, like I do want to do that with

2167
01:40:44,399 --> 01:40:47,039
Kayla once you're done with this, because like Kayla never

2168
01:40:47,119 --> 01:40:49,119
had Xboxes or anything, so like this has been her

2169
01:40:49,159 --> 01:40:50,840
first time three years so fresh.

2170
01:40:51,119 --> 01:40:53,279
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's nice for the first time.

2171
01:40:54,039 --> 01:40:57,159
Speaker 2: Yeah, So I'm curiously you know, Halo very iconic as well,

2172
01:40:58,640 --> 01:40:59,920
and I wonder like if they ever do like my

2173
01:41:00,039 --> 01:41:01,840
ster Chief collection on PlayStation or something, that'd be the

2174
01:41:01,880 --> 01:41:03,800
great way to get her in because like she hated

2175
01:41:03,880 --> 01:41:06,720
having to sign up for game Pass and you know,

2176
01:41:06,800 --> 01:41:08,880
turn on an Xbox to play Gears. So we'll see

2177
01:41:08,880 --> 01:41:09,680
if I can get her to do Halo.

2178
01:41:10,039 --> 01:41:14,640
Speaker 1: I missed that older that that era of Xbox was awesome, Halo,

2179
01:41:15,760 --> 01:41:17,800
all the fucking one off games that were fun as hell,

2180
01:41:17,960 --> 01:41:20,520
like what do you? What are you done? Phil?

2181
01:41:21,520 --> 01:41:24,600
Speaker 2: They know you can kind of blame before down for

2182
01:41:24,640 --> 01:41:27,920
a lot of the people. Yeah, stuff that had impacts

2183
01:41:27,960 --> 01:41:29,840
for a long time to go. Yeah, but yeah, that

2184
01:41:29,960 --> 01:41:32,800
three sixty is like I don't know, if I'm naming

2185
01:41:33,159 --> 01:41:35,399
top game consoles of all time, i'd put three sixty

2186
01:41:35,439 --> 01:41:40,439
maybe right behind PS two by its games or yeah,

2187
01:41:40,479 --> 01:41:42,560
I mean, but also like I don't know, like it

2188
01:41:42,640 --> 01:41:46,079
did a lot back then of like XBLA was industry changing.

2189
01:41:46,119 --> 01:41:48,279
Where's all of a sudden you're downloading these little games?

2190
01:41:48,319 --> 01:41:50,520
This is before Like I'm sure there were maybe examples

2191
01:41:50,560 --> 01:41:52,119
on Steam of like indie games and stuff like that,

2192
01:41:52,239 --> 01:41:54,359
but I feel like people like the Geometry, Wars Is

2193
01:41:54,439 --> 01:41:56,159
of the World and those type of things that that

2194
01:41:56,239 --> 01:41:59,920
people were getting big on Braid Braid, Yeah, that Summer

2195
01:42:00,079 --> 01:42:03,279
Arcade type stuff achievements, Like there was just a lot

2196
01:42:03,319 --> 01:42:05,640
of like Xbox Live, you know, like I know the

2197
01:42:05,680 --> 01:42:09,239
original Xbox kind of introduced it, but like three sixties

2198
01:42:09,239 --> 01:42:12,119
were really blew up. Like three sixty is my first

2199
01:42:12,159 --> 01:42:14,279
experience really getting into online games.

2200
01:42:14,359 --> 01:42:16,640
Speaker 1: Also, fucking love that the UI. It was just like

2201
01:42:16,760 --> 01:42:19,439
the tab Manila Manila folders that you flipped through. I

2202
01:42:19,640 --> 01:42:22,399
ironically loved that. Yeah, well the blades were azy. Yeah,

2203
01:42:22,520 --> 01:42:24,640
they were styled that for Manila folders. You realize that, right,

2204
01:42:24,720 --> 01:42:25,520
Like they didn't invent that.

2205
01:42:26,680 --> 01:42:28,560
Speaker 2: I didn't think about the men folder thing, but that

2206
01:42:28,600 --> 01:42:28,920
makes sense.

2207
01:42:29,000 --> 01:42:31,000
Speaker 1: Yeah, but it's folder tabs that they invented in like

2208
01:42:31,039 --> 01:42:31,520
the twenties.

2209
01:42:31,680 --> 01:42:33,159
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, that makes sense, that's why.

2210
01:42:33,279 --> 01:42:35,159
Speaker 1: Yeah, it was cool, Like you know what all these

2211
01:42:35,159 --> 01:42:38,600
features had in common. They were centered around the games,

2212
01:42:39,079 --> 01:42:42,239
and I feel like Xbox kind of lost sight of

2213
01:42:42,439 --> 01:42:44,840
games for a while, Like, oh, it was the one

2214
01:42:44,880 --> 01:42:48,479
input for all of your ht my devices. Yeah yeah, ough,

2215
01:42:49,279 --> 01:42:51,319
I missed those days. But yeah, I'd play Gears again, Mary,

2216
01:42:51,399 --> 01:42:53,279
I like, uh, I like those games quite a bit.

2217
01:42:53,720 --> 01:42:56,159
Gears two as a special place my heart with Horde

2218
01:42:56,199 --> 01:42:57,920
mode over the holidays, my brothers.

2219
01:42:58,479 --> 01:42:59,960
Speaker 3: I think we'd have a lot of fun. I think

2220
01:43:00,079 --> 01:43:03,479
we should. I think we should consider it deeply and

2221
01:43:03,840 --> 01:43:06,399
that would be really fun. Fu Calin I just.

2222
01:43:06,439 --> 01:43:10,000
Speaker 2: Beat Judgment together and like even that's it's good.

2223
01:43:10,199 --> 01:43:11,960
Speaker 1: That game is amazing. I love that game that was

2224
01:43:12,079 --> 01:43:17,520
rad that the book People Can Fly bullet Storm. M hm,

2225
01:43:17,680 --> 01:43:18,399
I love that game.

2226
01:43:19,319 --> 01:43:20,680
Speaker 3: All right, let's do it Mart.

2227
01:43:21,439 --> 01:43:24,840
Speaker 1: Do you want to You want to talk about emails?

2228
01:43:26,239 --> 01:43:26,600
Speaker 3: Prairie?

2229
01:43:29,000 --> 01:43:31,439
Speaker 1: Okay? As usually, you can write into fire Escape cast

2230
01:43:31,520 --> 01:43:36,479
at gmail dot com questions, comments, concerns. We will read

2231
01:43:36,680 --> 01:43:40,760
all the good questions on each episode. Get that inbox

2232
01:43:40,800 --> 01:43:44,880
filled up. That's firescape cast at gmail dot com. Uh, married,

2233
01:43:44,880 --> 01:43:46,279
do you want to read this? First? One? From Wes,

2234
01:43:46,359 --> 01:43:48,720
who has written in many times.

2235
01:43:49,720 --> 01:43:52,880
Speaker 3: Hey, y'all, what is a movie that you love despite

2236
01:43:52,920 --> 01:43:56,920
it being objectively stupid? Other than mcgruber, I'm partial to

2237
01:43:57,159 --> 01:43:59,279
the other guys. Thanks Wes from Baltimore.

2238
01:44:01,199 --> 01:44:04,239
Speaker 2: I mean, so, I logged into my letterbox here when

2239
01:44:04,239 --> 01:44:06,359
I saw that, and I'm like, okay, do I sort

2240
01:44:06,439 --> 01:44:08,319
by five stars or one.

2241
01:44:08,279 --> 01:44:10,720
Speaker 1: Star here or something? And then I realized, that's like

2242
01:44:10,880 --> 01:44:14,680
a lot of my taste in movies stars, I'm telling

2243
01:44:14,720 --> 01:44:15,960
you is even.

2244
01:44:15,960 --> 01:44:22,239
Speaker 2: Like even Rocky four is an objectively stupid movie, but

2245
01:44:22,319 --> 01:44:24,560
I also un ironically fucking love it.

2246
01:44:24,800 --> 01:44:30,159
Speaker 1: You know, four is objectively stupid. I mean have I

2247
01:44:30,359 --> 01:44:32,840
I always have been a way bigger Rocky fan than you,

2248
01:44:32,960 --> 01:44:33,600
So I guess.

2249
01:44:35,000 --> 01:44:38,920
Speaker 2: There we go, yeah, no, it's it's stupid. I think

2250
01:44:38,960 --> 01:44:42,159
that's fine to say it's stupid. It's stupid, it's stupid.

2251
01:44:42,399 --> 01:44:46,079
Speaker 3: But mcgruber is like a special stupid where it's like

2252
01:44:46,479 --> 01:44:49,560
it's it's so fucking dumb, it's trying to know how

2253
01:44:49,680 --> 01:44:51,600
it's trying to be stupid. Yeah, I think.

2254
01:44:51,520 --> 01:44:54,520
Speaker 1: It's like stupid, fucking go for it. We're doing too

2255
01:44:54,600 --> 01:44:57,359
much cocaine and steroids. We gotta get it. We need

2256
01:44:57,399 --> 01:45:00,560
an outlet for it. Objectively stupid. For me, my number

2257
01:45:00,560 --> 01:45:03,600
one movie is probably What Hot American Summer. They're they're

2258
01:45:04,600 --> 01:45:06,840
camp yeah, for sure that The humor is like they're

2259
01:45:06,920 --> 01:45:10,239
trying to be dumb. Like some of the jokes are

2260
01:45:11,880 --> 01:45:14,840
dumb because they come out of nowhere and make absolutely

2261
01:45:14,880 --> 01:45:19,239
no sense. Paul Redd will say like fuck you and

2262
01:45:19,319 --> 01:45:21,039
then be like my butt itch is when he's talking

2263
01:45:21,039 --> 01:45:24,159
to his girlfriend out of nowhere, and then say I'm kidding,

2264
01:45:24,239 --> 01:45:27,000
I love you. I'm gonna fart my way into that snatches.

2265
01:45:29,279 --> 01:45:31,840
Oh my God. His entrance in the prequel series the

2266
01:45:31,880 --> 01:45:35,239
sequel series when he's riding the bike down through the

2267
01:45:35,319 --> 01:45:37,960
woods and then he arrives and he doesn't stop it.

2268
01:45:38,000 --> 01:45:40,800
He just leaps off the back while it's still careening

2269
01:45:40,800 --> 01:45:43,520
toward Lake and then just instead of apologizing for being late,

2270
01:45:43,600 --> 01:45:49,119
he just announces, I'm late the wee hot it's probably mine.

2271
01:45:50,000 --> 01:45:52,880
Speaker 3: I think we have to pay homage to Walk Hard,

2272
01:45:53,000 --> 01:45:57,520
the Dewey Cox story. That's my quotes that all the time,

2273
01:45:58,319 --> 01:45:59,800
full like it.

2274
01:46:00,239 --> 01:46:02,119
Speaker 2: It is nailing what it's going for where it's like

2275
01:46:02,199 --> 01:46:03,960
there is a different camp. It's like Mike brought up

2276
01:46:04,000 --> 01:46:06,439
Hard ticket to why that is dumb as fuck? But

2277
01:46:06,560 --> 01:46:08,680
it's like, I mean, not that I thought it was

2278
01:46:08,720 --> 01:46:11,560
making high art or anything, but it wasn't this brilliant

2279
01:46:11,640 --> 01:46:14,560
stupidity that like you know, Amu Gruber or a walk

2280
01:46:14,600 --> 01:46:17,880
Hard you know, or like we mentioned face face off earlier,

2281
01:46:18,159 --> 01:46:20,600
face off is fucking stupid. We're cutting our faces off

2282
01:46:20,640 --> 01:46:23,640
and switching them. But it's played super straight face and everything,

2283
01:46:23,680 --> 01:46:24,600
and I super love it.

2284
01:46:24,840 --> 01:46:27,359
Speaker 1: Like I don't know enough about the backstory. Does John

2285
01:46:27,439 --> 01:46:29,479
Wu know his movies.

2286
01:46:29,319 --> 01:46:32,840
Speaker 2: Are John's John Wu? From everything I've heard about the

2287
01:46:32,840 --> 01:46:35,840
making that movie was pretty straight faced about it, and

2288
01:46:36,119 --> 01:46:38,600
like like even just dumb things about like them having

2289
01:46:38,600 --> 01:46:40,600
each other's voices and be like, oh, yeah, well it's

2290
01:46:40,600 --> 01:46:43,039
the microchip and they switch microchips and they have each other.

2291
01:46:43,159 --> 01:46:46,119
It was like, oh okay, yeah yeah, So like I

2292
01:46:46,159 --> 01:46:48,560
think there's an earnestness to face off, which makes it

2293
01:46:48,720 --> 01:46:49,359
so great to me.

2294
01:46:50,119 --> 01:46:53,399
Speaker 1: Uh, what was the other movie that just came up? Uh,

2295
01:46:53,920 --> 01:46:56,640
stupid ones that are like the Starship Troopers the original

2296
01:46:56,680 --> 01:46:59,479
one was like pretty stupid, but that's actually like that's

2297
01:46:59,560 --> 01:47:03,439
like that's no, that's almost the reverse, where like it's people.

2298
01:47:03,319 --> 01:47:07,000
Speaker 2: Think it's stupid, but it's actually pretty smart. Yeah, Rebo cop, Yes,

2299
01:47:07,119 --> 01:47:08,680
it is subversive satire.

2300
01:47:08,800 --> 01:47:13,000
Speaker 3: Yeah yeah, yeah, yeah, symbolisms.

2301
01:47:14,479 --> 01:47:16,479
Speaker 2: Oh the film students coming out.

2302
01:47:17,720 --> 01:47:23,079
Speaker 3: Tropic Thunder is like very funny and stupid, probably dangerous

2303
01:47:23,159 --> 01:47:25,079
by today's standards.

2304
01:47:24,600 --> 01:47:30,560
Speaker 1: But I was surgical, like it wasn't actual black pop star.

2305
01:47:30,920 --> 01:47:35,000
Speaker 2: Pop Star is fucking great. I mean Naked Gun. Naked

2306
01:47:35,079 --> 01:47:37,039
Gun is gleefully dumb as hell.

2307
01:47:37,279 --> 01:47:39,119
Speaker 3: I mean there's no question. I mean you might as

2308
01:47:39,159 --> 01:47:42,520
well say Airplane, right, Like those are like stupid movies

2309
01:47:42,600 --> 01:47:44,039
that are so good at what they're.

2310
01:47:43,920 --> 01:47:45,880
Speaker 2: Trying to do, and that's things like I think a

2311
01:47:45,960 --> 01:47:47,960
lot of comedies fall into that. But I think there

2312
01:47:48,119 --> 01:47:50,239
there's a certain breed of like like I go back

2313
01:47:50,239 --> 01:47:51,640
to face off, Like I think that is a movie

2314
01:47:51,640 --> 01:47:54,840
that is not sold as a comedy. We're sold as

2315
01:47:54,880 --> 01:47:55,439
a stupid thing.

2316
01:47:55,520 --> 01:47:58,920
Speaker 3: It's maybe it's not trying to be sane, yeah, yeah.

2317
01:47:58,760 --> 01:48:00,439
Speaker 1: But it is stupid as fuck.

2318
01:48:01,279 --> 01:48:02,000
Speaker 3: It is stupid.

2319
01:48:02,159 --> 01:48:04,319
Speaker 1: Yeah, because if you had asked me recently or a

2320
01:48:04,399 --> 01:48:06,399
couple of years ago, I would have said The Warriors.

2321
01:48:06,439 --> 01:48:08,600
But rewatching it, I'm actually just convinced that movie is

2322
01:48:08,640 --> 01:48:12,479
coole as fuck. Yeah, there's parts of it are stupid,

2323
01:48:12,840 --> 01:48:17,720
but it's just rad. But yeah, it's i'd say wet hot.

2324
01:48:17,760 --> 01:48:21,359
It's probably MiNet.

2325
01:48:21,039 --> 01:48:26,680
Speaker 3: Hotshots part due I love game movies that are like

2326
01:48:26,760 --> 01:48:29,600
playing off of like an entire I know, I know.

2327
01:48:29,720 --> 01:48:33,319
Speaker 1: You know, Uh, here's a here's a movie, here's a show.

2328
01:48:33,560 --> 01:48:36,079
Rather that's not at all trying to be stupid, but

2329
01:48:36,199 --> 01:48:39,520
it's pretty fucking stupid. Is Drops of God on Apple TV.

2330
01:48:39,680 --> 01:48:43,800
It's about wine. Uh, this this dude who's like this

2331
01:48:43,960 --> 01:48:47,680
dude who is like a taste maker in the wine industry,

2332
01:48:47,960 --> 01:48:52,399
like global tastemaker dies has this like one of the

2333
01:48:52,439 --> 01:48:54,800
most incredible wine sellers in the world, and also like

2334
01:48:54,920 --> 01:48:57,239
the rights to this book almanac kind of thing, or

2335
01:48:57,520 --> 01:49:00,319
that he's trying to encyclopedia that he's like potentially leaving

2336
01:49:00,359 --> 01:49:03,319
to his daughter, but he also had a protege, this

2337
01:49:03,439 --> 01:49:05,760
Japanese protege, and it's based on a manga which is

2338
01:49:05,880 --> 01:49:09,000
really good, but they adapted it into a bunch of

2339
01:49:09,239 --> 01:49:12,279
like white people and it's a very different story. Where

2340
01:49:12,720 --> 01:49:15,880
the father dies and he puts his daughter and his

2341
01:49:16,000 --> 01:49:18,720
protege up to this test to see whether they can

2342
01:49:18,840 --> 01:49:22,560
like blind taste this series of wines. And it's fun

2343
01:49:22,600 --> 01:49:24,840
if you're a wine geek. But it's also so fucking

2344
01:49:25,000 --> 01:49:28,199
stupid that, like that is how he's deciding who gets

2345
01:49:28,239 --> 01:49:30,479
his fortune. If you watch the whole show, there's there

2346
01:49:30,560 --> 01:49:32,560
is some backstory to why he's doing it, but it's

2347
01:49:32,600 --> 01:49:36,279
still fucking stupid. But I still love it. That's probably

2348
01:49:36,840 --> 01:49:39,239
a better answer than the other ones. My other ones,

2349
01:49:40,159 --> 01:49:41,600
the whole Fast and Furious series.

2350
01:49:41,960 --> 01:49:44,960
Speaker 2: Uh yeah, yeah, yeah, right, Like they're so fucking stupid,

2351
01:49:45,000 --> 01:49:46,960
but like they play the whole thing like very straight.

2352
01:49:47,720 --> 01:49:52,520
Speaker 1: They're not stupid. They're about family, a family. Sorry, yeah,

2353
01:49:52,560 --> 01:49:55,720
it's about loyalty. Oh I guess I'm just gonna quit

2354
01:49:55,760 --> 01:49:57,960
fire Escape Cast tomorrow and that'll be stupid.

2355
01:49:58,439 --> 01:50:00,359
Speaker 2: No, okay, I apologize, I'm sorry.

2356
01:50:00,560 --> 01:50:03,720
Speaker 1: Oh I guess you're just gonna stop being friends of me,

2357
01:50:03,800 --> 01:50:06,159
and that'll be stupid. We're can talk about it off

2358
01:50:06,159 --> 01:50:08,760
the year. It's fine, maybe we will.

2359
01:50:09,520 --> 01:50:13,119
Speaker 3: I have I have won more based on the sincere

2360
01:50:13,479 --> 01:50:15,439
shows that I think are trying to be sincere, that

2361
01:50:15,520 --> 01:50:17,720
I think are so stupid that I have to bring

2362
01:50:18,000 --> 01:50:20,640
a new one up that just I think. This just

2363
01:50:20,800 --> 01:50:24,840
launched on Netflix, and this might be too weird for

2364
01:50:24,960 --> 01:50:27,359
you too. I'm still going to try and sell you

2365
01:50:27,439 --> 01:50:30,680
on it. It's called Samurai Gourmet.

2366
01:50:31,199 --> 01:50:32,319
Speaker 1: Way, how do you already watch it?

2367
01:50:33,039 --> 01:50:36,920
Speaker 3: No? Way? No, I didn't, you got me?

2368
01:50:37,000 --> 01:50:37,600
Speaker 1: Okay? It is.

2369
01:50:39,640 --> 01:50:42,600
Speaker 3: It is a show about a professional chef from the

2370
01:50:42,680 --> 01:50:46,640
year twenty twenty five who gets sucked back into time

2371
01:50:47,359 --> 01:50:52,600
to like a very earlier era when they have like

2372
01:50:52,840 --> 01:50:56,399
showguns and shit like that, and they're like torturing people

2373
01:50:56,560 --> 01:51:00,000
and killing people, and they capture her and she keeps

2374
01:51:00,239 --> 01:51:04,199
impressing people with her awesome cooking and every time she

2375
01:51:04,439 --> 01:51:09,199
makes something, they're like, uh, they're like mind's explode and

2376
01:51:09,239 --> 01:51:11,560
they're like, how did you do this? And she's like, oh,

2377
01:51:12,159 --> 01:51:13,720
it's msg because it.

2378
01:51:13,760 --> 01:51:16,560
Speaker 4: Hasn't been invented yet, and so people are freaking out

2379
01:51:16,720 --> 01:51:20,199
over her food and it keeps saving her life because

2380
01:51:20,359 --> 01:51:23,239
like she's in all these horrible situations where she's probably

2381
01:51:23,239 --> 01:51:26,159
should be like tortured or killed or worse for women

2382
01:51:26,239 --> 01:51:28,199
back then, and there's all these like really fucked up

2383
01:51:28,199 --> 01:51:30,239
scenes where they're like cut off their arms until all

2384
01:51:30,239 --> 01:51:31,840
these people are like freaking.

2385
01:51:31,560 --> 01:51:34,319
Speaker 3: Out, and then there they'll almost kill her, and she'll

2386
01:51:34,359 --> 01:51:37,319
be like, let me cook one dish for you, and

2387
01:51:37,359 --> 01:51:39,600
then she'll win over the guy and he'll be like,

2388
01:51:39,680 --> 01:51:40,359
you can live.

2389
01:51:40,520 --> 01:51:43,399
Speaker 4: And it keeps happening every episode. The show should not

2390
01:51:43,520 --> 01:51:47,239
be good, and by many standards it's not good, but.

2391
01:51:47,319 --> 01:51:51,359
Speaker 3: I can't stop watching it because every time she cooks,

2392
01:51:51,720 --> 01:51:54,319
she'll be like, they don't know this cooking method for me,

2393
01:51:54,640 --> 01:51:57,520
but I do. And she'll like she has like fucking

2394
01:51:57,640 --> 01:52:00,560
like Gochu Chang in her pocket and she's putting it

2395
01:52:00,600 --> 01:52:02,840
out and she's making them bibb and bobs. She's invent

2396
01:52:03,000 --> 01:52:06,640
she's she's serving them dishes that they've never heard of.

2397
01:52:07,760 --> 01:52:08,119
Speaker 1: You know you.

2398
01:52:08,640 --> 01:52:10,840
Speaker 2: I've thought about that time travel stuff a lot, where

2399
01:52:10,880 --> 01:52:12,720
it's like, oh, if you went back with a adult

2400
01:52:12,840 --> 01:52:15,760
rifle or you went back with an iPhone or something,

2401
01:52:15,960 --> 01:52:18,000
they would be like, this is crazy. This is awesome,

2402
01:52:18,039 --> 01:52:20,640
but like food wise, like I don't know if I

2403
01:52:20,680 --> 01:52:23,239
brought back a thing of like super chunk peanut butter, yeah,

2404
01:52:23,359 --> 01:52:24,960
they'd be like, this is fucking crazy.

2405
01:52:25,000 --> 01:52:27,600
Speaker 3: It's insane. He's not how does he How did he

2406
01:52:27,720 --> 01:52:28,000
make this?

2407
01:52:28,199 --> 01:52:28,359
Speaker 1: Yes?

2408
01:52:28,439 --> 01:52:31,279
Speaker 3: And she like keeps doing it. She like, uh, she

2409
01:52:31,439 --> 01:52:34,640
keeps using French cooking methods, which obviously they're not familiar with.

2410
01:52:34,720 --> 01:52:36,920
They don't even know what that is. And they're like

2411
01:52:37,640 --> 01:52:40,720
their minds keep getting blown by the things that she's inventing.

2412
01:52:41,000 --> 01:52:44,319
But it's also like poorly done in the sense that

2413
01:52:44,479 --> 01:52:47,560
like this is almost silly. They're trying to put a

2414
01:52:47,800 --> 01:52:50,560
romance in there. It is a joke.

2415
01:52:50,720 --> 01:52:53,119
Speaker 4: The first episode is hard to get through, and I

2416
01:52:53,239 --> 01:52:54,920
know people who like watch this will be like, how

2417
01:52:55,000 --> 01:52:55,800
did Mary watch this?

2418
01:52:55,880 --> 01:52:58,279
Speaker 3: And I'm telling you, I actually skipped some of the

2419
01:52:58,319 --> 01:53:00,239
first episode and got to the part where she actually

2420
01:53:00,279 --> 01:53:04,119
starts cooking, and that shit is so good. People freak

2421
01:53:04,199 --> 01:53:06,039
out when they taste her cooking.

2422
01:53:07,199 --> 01:53:09,359
Speaker 1: What this is an interesting concept. It's like, what do

2423
01:53:09,479 --> 01:53:11,039
you think if you went back because like.

2424
01:53:11,119 --> 01:53:12,640
Speaker 3: Yeah, I don't know what it was the dream of

2425
01:53:12,680 --> 01:53:13,399
a child.

2426
01:53:13,600 --> 01:53:16,359
Speaker 2: Yeah, medieval times. They're probably just like I don't know,

2427
01:53:16,479 --> 01:53:18,399
eating the leg of a cow. And I don't know,

2428
01:53:18,399 --> 01:53:20,039
I hate they had fire or whatever how they hated

2429
01:53:20,039 --> 01:53:22,039
it up or whatever. But like imagine if you brought

2430
01:53:22,479 --> 01:53:26,800
a no that fire. I know, I just the cooking situation.

2431
01:53:26,920 --> 01:53:29,880
Speaker 1: I don't know. But like, let's say with all the chemicals.

2432
01:53:30,640 --> 01:53:32,960
Speaker 2: Yeah, we have like insane like chemicals and shit, and

2433
01:53:33,079 --> 01:53:35,479
like our palettes are so you know whatever. Now I

2434
01:53:35,560 --> 01:53:39,520
bring you beer, like in like a cacity from Taco Bell.

2435
01:53:39,600 --> 01:53:42,279
What year are we talking about? Let me say fifteen hundreds?

2436
01:53:42,319 --> 01:53:43,279
What are Castle Times?

2437
01:53:43,399 --> 01:53:46,399
Speaker 1: Beer was invunded in like two thousand BC. I hate

2438
01:53:46,439 --> 01:53:46,720
to tell you.

2439
01:53:46,800 --> 01:53:49,439
Speaker 2: Oh, let's just go to Castle Times and we bring

2440
01:53:49,560 --> 01:53:52,800
them a case from Taco Bell. I'm not surprised for McDonald's.

2441
01:53:52,800 --> 01:53:53,680
Do their heads explode?

2442
01:53:54,840 --> 01:53:57,000
Speaker 1: Yeah? I think so. That's Nick Swartzon's joke. He's like,

2443
01:53:57,000 --> 01:53:59,680
we've gotten so jaded with movies. We see the first Transformers,

2444
01:53:59,720 --> 01:54:01,520
We're like fucking sucked. He's like, can you imagine if

2445
01:54:01,560 --> 01:54:04,479
you showed the Transformers in a nineteen fifties theater, he'd

2446
01:54:04,520 --> 01:54:09,039
be like, ah, start stabbing each other. Or the first

2447
01:54:09,079 --> 01:54:11,359
people who saw a movie with the trains coming at them.

2448
01:54:11,439 --> 01:54:14,520
Chris Funming has that joke. He's like, he's like, there's

2449
01:54:14,520 --> 01:54:18,039
a reason Timothy Shellman has to play Willy Wonka now,

2450
01:54:18,159 --> 01:54:20,960
because the fucking Gene Wilder and four K would be

2451
01:54:21,079 --> 01:54:23,520
like the first train coming at people in that movie Theater.

2452
01:54:23,960 --> 01:54:26,319
That's a separate thing. There's a movie from the show

2453
01:54:26,359 --> 01:54:28,840
from the nineties, late nineties, early two thousands that was

2454
01:54:28,880 --> 01:54:31,760
short lived, I believe, called Doover. It was basically about

2455
01:54:31,760 --> 01:54:35,920
a kid or sorry, a suburban dad who gets sucked

2456
01:54:35,960 --> 01:54:39,119
back into his high school years with but like with

2457
01:54:39,239 --> 01:54:42,039
the mind of his feet yourself. So he's got a

2458
01:54:42,119 --> 01:54:44,279
talent show coming up that apparently he biffed when he

2459
01:54:44,399 --> 01:54:48,840
was young, so he decides to play good Ridden's Time

2460
01:54:48,840 --> 01:54:50,760
of Your Life by Green Day and everybody's like, oh,

2461
01:54:52,520 --> 01:54:54,600
this is the best thing ever. And then it comes

2462
01:54:54,680 --> 01:54:56,279
time for the actual show and he does the moral

2463
01:54:56,359 --> 01:54:58,399
thing and does the song that he wrote and he

2464
01:54:58,520 --> 01:55:01,880
loses it, but he did the right thing. Like there's

2465
01:55:01,920 --> 01:55:03,760
that video game coming out where it's like, what if

2466
01:55:03,840 --> 01:55:06,760
like six dudes had assault rifles that helm's deep or something.

2467
01:55:07,840 --> 01:55:09,399
Speaker 2: Oh, oh yeah, the one where we have the car

2468
01:55:09,479 --> 01:55:12,239
and you're running over all the like nights.

2469
01:55:12,079 --> 01:55:14,199
Speaker 1: Like could you win the Battle of Hayese things with

2470
01:55:14,439 --> 01:55:23,199
like a sniper rifle. I exactly, No, I'm not asking you.

2471
01:55:23,560 --> 01:55:25,279
I'm just saying like, yeah, you could scare them, but

2472
01:55:26,439 --> 01:55:31,399
I would I feel as if it's gotta be some

2473
01:55:31,600 --> 01:55:34,119
like advanced cooking technique that would really blow people's mind,

2474
01:55:34,159 --> 01:55:35,640
like a case of DIA. I don't think people in

2475
01:55:35,640 --> 01:55:37,159
the middle of the people in the Middle Ages would

2476
01:55:37,159 --> 01:55:39,000
not know what like a flat top grill is.

2477
01:55:39,159 --> 01:55:40,640
Speaker 2: No, I'm just saying that they just bit into it,

2478
01:55:40,800 --> 01:55:42,840
like we're just the flavor of it, just being so

2479
01:55:42,960 --> 01:55:45,800
insane with the chemicals and everything. The buck is this

2480
01:55:45,880 --> 01:55:46,720
would even be good.

2481
01:55:47,399 --> 01:55:48,720
Speaker 1: They've literally not been invented yet.

2482
01:55:48,760 --> 01:55:51,359
Speaker 3: Yeah, candy would be so cool as well. And this

2483
01:55:51,479 --> 01:55:53,159
is like the kind of thing where you're skirting the

2484
01:55:53,279 --> 01:55:55,119
rules a little bit where I could like take back

2485
01:55:55,279 --> 01:55:57,720
a giant bag of gumballs and I would like hide

2486
01:55:57,760 --> 01:55:59,399
them so that no one would know where I got them.

2487
01:55:59,439 --> 01:56:01,520
But I would sell people these gumballs and they'd be like,

2488
01:56:01,880 --> 01:56:03,800
how the fuck did you make this? And I'd be like,

2489
01:56:03,960 --> 01:56:07,720
I'm not telling you, but you can have these gumballs

2490
01:56:08,079 --> 01:56:11,479
for ten dollars. And I would just like rob these

2491
01:56:11,520 --> 01:56:14,159
people because they would have no idea. It's so funny too.

2492
01:56:14,199 --> 01:56:16,239
Whenever I have this fantasy, which I have a lot of,

2493
01:56:16,359 --> 01:56:19,039
like you know, gumballs or wine, I never think to

2494
01:56:19,159 --> 01:56:22,119
like bring back medicine and say people's lives. I'm always like, man,

2495
01:56:22,199 --> 01:56:24,239
I bring back fucking whiskey and skittles.

2496
01:56:24,720 --> 01:56:25,279
Speaker 1: Gumballs.

2497
01:56:26,159 --> 01:56:29,000
Speaker 2: Dude, if you lived in Castle Times and someone gave

2498
01:56:29,039 --> 01:56:31,319
you whiskey and skittles, they would be your new god.

2499
01:56:31,800 --> 01:56:34,079
Speaker 1: You would be queen of the manner.

2500
01:56:34,640 --> 01:56:39,399
Speaker 3: I could have brought back it would cure smallpox. But anyway,

2501
01:56:40,039 --> 01:56:42,399
here's how you make beer skittles.

2502
01:56:42,800 --> 01:56:45,439
Speaker 2: Oh, get some wildberry skittles and some Jack Daniels.

2503
01:56:45,479 --> 01:56:48,000
Speaker 1: Hell yeah, Mary could go back to the very dock

2504
01:56:48,159 --> 01:56:51,840
where the first rats with bubonic plague stepped ashore, and

2505
01:56:52,000 --> 01:56:55,159
she could know and see them scurrying into the city,

2506
01:56:55,199 --> 01:56:57,479
and instead of telling them kill those rats, she'd say,

2507
01:56:58,159 --> 01:56:59,880
I have gumball.

2508
01:57:01,640 --> 01:57:04,079
Speaker 2: Would Castle people like gumballs.

2509
01:57:04,199 --> 01:57:05,159
Speaker 3: Ten bucks apiece?

2510
01:57:05,560 --> 01:57:06,960
Speaker 1: I don't know, like, would they want.

2511
01:57:06,800 --> 01:57:09,880
Speaker 2: To be are we skipping too many like evolutions of

2512
01:57:09,920 --> 01:57:13,359
food or would somebody bite into like a Dorito's in

2513
01:57:13,520 --> 01:57:15,520
the Castle Times and would they just be like what

2514
01:57:15,600 --> 01:57:16,000
the fuck?

2515
01:57:16,159 --> 01:57:18,720
Speaker 1: Like affected to the point where it wouldn't even make

2516
01:57:18,760 --> 01:57:19,439
sense as food.

2517
01:57:20,159 --> 01:57:22,840
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's just like this doesn't Yeah, Gerald just eating

2518
01:57:22,920 --> 01:57:25,680
like fucking celery and cows or whatever.

2519
01:57:25,760 --> 01:57:25,960
Speaker 1: You know.

2520
01:57:26,960 --> 01:57:29,159
Speaker 3: I have to make an important correction. I got the

2521
01:57:29,239 --> 01:57:30,399
name of the Netflix show wrong.

2522
01:57:31,079 --> 01:57:31,439
Speaker 1: What is it?

2523
01:57:32,079 --> 01:57:35,079
Speaker 3: It's called Bone Appetite, Your Majesty.

2524
01:57:37,159 --> 01:57:39,880
Speaker 1: Much better. I looked up Samurai Gourmet. I was like,

2525
01:57:39,960 --> 01:57:40,840
this looks different.

2526
01:57:41,119 --> 01:57:45,239
Speaker 3: Listen. I googled Lady Goes Back in Time Samurai Food

2527
01:57:45,399 --> 01:57:48,840
and I did the first response, and it was Samurai Gourmet.

2528
01:57:49,399 --> 01:57:52,640
It is not right. It is Bone Appetite, Your Majesty.

2529
01:57:52,760 --> 01:57:54,800
Speaker 2: How did you find this in the first place. I

2530
01:57:55,479 --> 01:57:58,600
don't Alien Earth AutoPlay after an episode.

2531
01:58:00,119 --> 01:58:02,399
Speaker 3: I thought it was Alien Earth episode five.

2532
01:58:04,479 --> 01:58:07,439
Speaker 1: Yeah, actually sounds kind of serious and good.

2533
01:58:08,000 --> 01:58:10,680
Speaker 3: I don't think that that is what I recommended at all.

2534
01:58:10,760 --> 01:58:14,960
I'm recommending Bone Appetite, Your Majesty, a very stupid show

2535
01:58:15,119 --> 01:58:18,920
about a girl who gets sucked back into time, but

2536
01:58:19,079 --> 01:58:21,680
because she is like a world renowned chef, she keeps

2537
01:58:22,039 --> 01:58:25,520
pleasing all of these evil tyrants with her cooking to

2538
01:58:25,720 --> 01:58:26,600
save her life.

2539
01:58:27,399 --> 01:58:29,920
Speaker 2: Now that doesn't make me think like if tonight I

2540
01:58:30,239 --> 01:58:31,840
got a little too drunk and I woke up in

2541
01:58:31,960 --> 01:58:35,039
Castle Times. What would my play be? Because like, I'm

2542
01:58:35,079 --> 01:58:38,079
not a I'm not a gourmet chef, So.

2543
01:58:38,159 --> 01:58:43,680
Speaker 3: Like, what is the thing ability to like platform don't

2544
01:58:43,680 --> 01:58:43,920
give a.

2545
01:58:43,880 --> 01:58:50,960
Speaker 2: Shit about my thoughts on fucking shinobi? Can I do

2546
01:58:51,199 --> 01:58:52,359
to keep people from killing me?

2547
01:58:52,479 --> 01:58:55,319
Speaker 3: They would put your head on a spike with four minutes.

2548
01:58:55,359 --> 01:58:57,680
Speaker 2: There's gotta be something I could show them. I gotta

2549
01:58:57,720 --> 01:59:00,760
skip a rock across a lake or something that that's

2550
01:59:00,760 --> 01:59:01,119
a good.

2551
01:59:03,239 --> 01:59:05,199
Speaker 3: No, have they figured that out?

2552
01:59:06,159 --> 01:59:06,880
Speaker 1: I can sometimes do.

2553
01:59:09,239 --> 01:59:14,960
Speaker 2: Yeah, they didn't have that tech yet. Is I don't

2554
01:59:14,960 --> 01:59:16,920
know if the zoom is picking that mic is blowing into.

2555
01:59:16,720 --> 01:59:19,439
Speaker 3: His finger, brushing your teeth, they probably didn't know how

2556
01:59:19,479 --> 01:59:20,319
to do that very well.

2557
01:59:20,520 --> 01:59:22,640
Speaker 2: I can't look Let's say I show up terminator style

2558
01:59:22,680 --> 01:59:25,640
and I'm just naked, all right, and I can't just

2559
01:59:25,720 --> 01:59:28,520
like I don't have tooth paste with me, So like,

2560
01:59:28,640 --> 01:59:31,479
what can I show them with my knowledge from twenty

2561
01:59:31,520 --> 01:59:32,039
twenty five?

2562
01:59:32,720 --> 01:59:33,760
Speaker 1: If I just show up naked?

2563
01:59:34,119 --> 01:59:36,039
Speaker 3: They have no concept of mental health. You could be

2564
01:59:36,079 --> 01:59:36,960
a psychiatrist.

2565
01:59:38,560 --> 01:59:41,079
Speaker 2: No, I think meditation goes back like you have.

2566
01:59:41,560 --> 01:59:44,800
Speaker 3: Repeat you're the first person to meditate.

2567
01:59:45,479 --> 01:59:48,680
Speaker 2: I don't think so meditation Castle Time here.

2568
01:59:48,640 --> 01:59:51,479
Speaker 1: That you can do. Pop them a few of your uh,

2569
01:59:51,960 --> 01:59:54,680
you're well bututrin, and then in three weeks they're going

2570
01:59:54,720 --> 01:59:58,439
to feel amazing and they're no. No pop up your

2571
01:59:58,479 --> 02:00:00,520
viance once a day, and then in three they're gonna

2572
02:00:00,520 --> 02:00:03,319
be no germinator style. I'm asked, naked, I got happen

2573
02:00:03,399 --> 02:00:04,159
with me naked?

2574
02:00:05,319 --> 02:00:07,760
Speaker 2: What What do I have to offer to castle people?

2575
02:00:09,680 --> 02:00:11,199
What can I possibly teach them?

2576
02:00:11,640 --> 02:00:12,039
Speaker 1: You don't.

2577
02:00:14,840 --> 02:00:19,199
Speaker 3: I don't know why whying us to solve your existential crisis?

2578
02:00:19,439 --> 02:00:20,119
You've got nothing?

2579
02:00:20,560 --> 02:00:23,000
Speaker 2: Can I teach them something about eclipses? Can I teach

2580
02:00:23,079 --> 02:00:26,319
them something about a phenomenon they don't understand that I

2581
02:00:26,399 --> 02:00:26,800
can like.

2582
02:00:27,000 --> 02:00:29,199
Speaker 1: Be like, oh, we know this about eclipses right now.

2583
02:00:30,000 --> 02:00:31,960
Speaker 2: That every once in a while, based on the axis

2584
02:00:32,000 --> 02:00:33,880
and the rotation of the Earth around the Sun, that

2585
02:00:33,960 --> 02:00:36,479
sometimes things get dark because this moon's in between the

2586
02:00:36,520 --> 02:00:37,119
Sun and the earth.

2587
02:00:37,960 --> 02:00:41,680
Speaker 3: Burned like a witch, you're gonna be spell really good

2588
02:00:41,880 --> 02:00:44,760
and they're gonna hang you outside the walls.

2589
02:00:45,239 --> 02:00:46,600
Speaker 1: I need provable ship.

2590
02:00:46,760 --> 02:00:50,039
Speaker 2: I can't just explain an eclipse with my late person's knowledge,

2591
02:00:50,119 --> 02:00:51,600
Like what can I bring to them?

2592
02:00:51,760 --> 02:00:55,399
Speaker 1: Eclipses were first documented in thirty three forty BC in.

2593
02:00:55,920 --> 02:00:58,640
Speaker 2: When do people start meditating? Also, that's kind of a

2594
02:00:58,680 --> 02:01:01,239
hard thing if you go there's a long time ago.

2595
02:01:01,920 --> 02:01:04,479
Speaker 3: Oh I got one, I got one. What you know

2596
02:01:04,760 --> 02:01:07,760
all modern music? You could just sing all of our

2597
02:01:07,840 --> 02:01:09,960
modern tunes and people will be like, oh my god,

2598
02:01:10,039 --> 02:01:11,159
he's such a good bard.

2599
02:01:11,920 --> 02:01:14,199
Speaker 1: Wait what would Dan be like? I'm just gonna sing

2600
02:01:14,279 --> 02:01:19,279
Beatles songs to him to the Paradise City. Yeah, everyone,

2601
02:01:19,359 --> 02:01:22,239
I love it, like a monk version of every song

2602
02:01:22,279 --> 02:01:22,680
he knows.

2603
02:01:23,119 --> 02:01:32,359
Speaker 3: Everyone gathered around, do you remember it? Like nobody king? Yeah,

2604
02:01:32,399 --> 02:01:34,479
and they're like, this is amazing. This guy just keeps

2605
02:01:34,520 --> 02:01:37,279
coming out with bangery hold to night.

2606
02:01:38,159 --> 02:01:40,960
Speaker 1: I don't let you gold.

2607
02:01:42,319 --> 02:01:46,159
Speaker 2: I mean that maybe the best option we have so far.

2608
02:01:46,439 --> 02:01:49,399
Speaker 3: I'm trying to save your ass, and it's all I.

2609
02:01:50,920 --> 02:01:51,279
Speaker 2: Has to be.

2610
02:01:51,800 --> 02:01:55,359
Speaker 1: I can't bring back flip your eyelids inside out and

2611
02:01:55,439 --> 02:01:56,800
then and look at them and blink.

2612
02:01:57,039 --> 02:01:58,399
Speaker 2: They've killed anything but a demon.

2613
02:01:58,680 --> 02:02:00,840
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's true. They think you're even for singing any

2614
02:02:00,840 --> 02:02:01,880
of the songs we was mentioned too.

2615
02:02:02,119 --> 02:02:04,159
Speaker 3: Again, it has to be knowledge that you already have.

2616
02:02:04,399 --> 02:02:07,600
So like this lady, she has like a really good

2617
02:02:08,279 --> 02:02:11,560
modern view of cooking, which is really helpful.

2618
02:02:11,640 --> 02:02:13,960
Speaker 1: Oh, make them my tie. But they wouldn't have They

2619
02:02:14,000 --> 02:02:19,439
wouldn't have any shot. Learn to make it. They might

2620
02:02:19,479 --> 02:02:20,079
have almonds.

2621
02:02:20,680 --> 02:02:22,520
Speaker 2: I'm gonna make or shot. I don't know how that works.

2622
02:02:23,640 --> 02:02:24,199
Speaker 1: It his hour.

2623
02:02:24,720 --> 02:02:27,319
Speaker 3: He doesn't know how to infuse. Mike, this is yes,

2624
02:02:28,439 --> 02:02:28,680
I know.

2625
02:02:28,760 --> 02:02:29,920
Speaker 2: It's almond a Jason.

2626
02:02:30,039 --> 02:02:33,239
Speaker 3: That's not gonna help his first tomato like two weeks ago.

2627
02:02:33,520 --> 02:02:35,239
He's got really in.

2628
02:02:35,640 --> 02:02:37,760
Speaker 2: Living at twenty twenty five. I have nothing I could

2629
02:02:37,800 --> 02:02:41,319
prove to people in the fifteen hundreds that would impress them,

2630
02:02:41,359 --> 02:02:41,960
even just.

2631
02:02:42,039 --> 02:02:44,239
Speaker 1: Sleep with a gun. So if this happens, you have

2632
02:02:44,359 --> 02:02:45,359
a gun, No.

2633
02:02:45,680 --> 02:02:50,560
Speaker 2: It's terminator rules. I'm making your as I'm sucking itears

2634
02:02:50,600 --> 02:02:53,520
out your ass if your time travel, its terminator rules.

2635
02:02:53,319 --> 02:02:54,359
Speaker 1: Around popping pills up.

2636
02:02:54,359 --> 02:02:59,119
Speaker 3: People can't know that terminator did not have anything up

2637
02:02:59,159 --> 02:02:59,520
his ass.

2638
02:03:00,159 --> 02:03:04,359
Speaker 1: Beer bongs you can't know. Oh, you can start boof

2639
02:03:04,399 --> 02:03:06,039
and drink. Show how much quicker that is?

2640
02:03:06,479 --> 02:03:08,239
Speaker 2: Hey, you don't know, Marilyn Monroe. But let me tell

2641
02:03:08,239 --> 02:03:08,680
you a thing.

2642
02:03:09,359 --> 02:03:10,640
Speaker 1: Let mean, let's boof some me.

2643
02:03:11,399 --> 02:03:13,239
Speaker 3: You could invent somepositories.

2644
02:03:13,720 --> 02:03:16,359
Speaker 2: Ie, I'm actually trying to think of something right now.

2645
02:03:16,600 --> 02:03:20,680
I don't think I happen anything. YouTube, do you guys

2646
02:03:20,720 --> 02:03:26,520
have anything you could like because they know how to

2647
02:03:26,600 --> 02:03:31,000
start fire, starting fire than you.

2648
02:03:33,000 --> 02:03:37,479
Speaker 3: Uh maybe like modern fashion. I feel like their fashion

2649
02:03:37,600 --> 02:03:39,319
is all outdated, and i'd be I don't.

2650
02:03:39,159 --> 02:03:41,399
Speaker 2: Think they would care, right, They just like you're weird.

2651
02:03:41,600 --> 02:03:44,439
Speaker 1: I think if we saw a future fashion from eight

2652
02:03:44,560 --> 02:03:45,199
hundred years.

2653
02:03:45,079 --> 02:03:48,239
Speaker 2: In the fortune we were, is there anything that like

2654
02:03:48,319 --> 02:03:50,479
an injury or something that we would know, like, oh,

2655
02:03:50,560 --> 02:03:50,960
here's how.

2656
02:03:50,920 --> 02:03:54,960
Speaker 3: You pick that up real quick high like maneuver kying

2657
02:03:55,039 --> 02:03:57,119
on someone who gets stung by a jellyfish.

2658
02:03:57,520 --> 02:04:01,640
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, if you're coasting so specific, so they're circling

2659
02:04:01,680 --> 02:04:04,239
around you, you just time traveled under their field. They

2660
02:04:04,359 --> 02:04:06,720
got their fucking pitchforks out and they're like, we're gonna

2661
02:04:06,800 --> 02:04:09,039
kill this guy. Like wait, watch this. You can't just

2662
02:04:09,119 --> 02:04:10,399
like summon a jellyfision piece.

2663
02:04:10,439 --> 02:04:12,000
Speaker 1: See let me see, let me see when was Heiml

2664
02:04:12,039 --> 02:04:12,800
like maneuver inventors.

2665
02:04:12,800 --> 02:04:15,159
Speaker 3: Well, she doesn't get to do that either. They she

2666
02:04:15,319 --> 02:04:18,359
has to be like put me in a kitchen. What

2667
02:04:18,439 --> 02:04:20,640
were people doing before the seventies dying?

2668
02:04:21,640 --> 02:04:26,239
Speaker 1: Do that? You fucking someone's chewing on some some cow

2669
02:04:26,479 --> 02:04:29,399
cud and you fucking jam there.

2670
02:04:29,560 --> 02:04:32,479
Speaker 2: Again, that's such a specific thing, like you can't just

2671
02:04:32,560 --> 02:04:34,439
manufacture that moment make up.

2672
02:04:34,800 --> 02:04:37,239
Speaker 3: I would be like, take me to your leader and

2673
02:04:37,279 --> 02:04:39,439
I'm gonna do the sickest cat eye.

2674
02:04:39,359 --> 02:04:45,239
Speaker 1: On that pitch. Good men and women from the Middle Ages,

2675
02:04:45,279 --> 02:04:47,000
Mary we're talking about.

2676
02:04:47,399 --> 02:04:49,479
Speaker 3: I'm just saying I think I could win them over

2677
02:04:49,640 --> 02:04:52,479
with modern makeup techniques. I bet you they don't know

2678
02:04:52,680 --> 02:04:54,199
anything about making.

2679
02:04:54,399 --> 02:04:57,720
Speaker 1: You could puke on command. I think people back then

2680
02:04:57,760 --> 02:05:00,720
could do it, like, hey, guys, yeah, go he's come.

2681
02:05:01,079 --> 02:05:05,119
You could God, what the fuck? Wow?

2682
02:05:05,479 --> 02:05:08,079
Speaker 3: How much cheese you can eat? I literally just gave

2683
02:05:08,199 --> 02:05:08,800
three for me.

2684
02:05:09,119 --> 02:05:12,279
Speaker 1: You were definitely they were jacking off back then for sure.

2685
02:05:12,720 --> 02:05:15,199
Oh like in every which way.

2686
02:05:15,479 --> 02:05:17,920
Speaker 3: Could you imagine going back in time being like, did

2687
02:05:17,960 --> 02:05:19,880
you guys not know that you could do this and

2688
02:05:20,039 --> 02:05:21,359
just whip it out and start.

2689
02:05:22,640 --> 02:05:24,680
Speaker 1: Everyone came to that naturally.

2690
02:05:28,399 --> 02:05:29,640
Speaker 3: Nobody knew how to do it.

2691
02:05:32,840 --> 02:05:34,159
Speaker 1: They know how to do it this way.

2692
02:05:36,399 --> 02:05:39,520
Speaker 3: You invent the Comma Sutra, or you're just like, but

2693
02:05:39,640 --> 02:05:41,840
they don't know how to do it backwards and you

2694
02:05:41,880 --> 02:05:43,399
could sex positions.

2695
02:05:43,640 --> 02:05:47,199
Speaker 2: Yeah stuff, I thought they were doing crazy ship.

2696
02:05:47,920 --> 02:05:49,880
Speaker 1: Probably they had nothing better to do. It was dark

2697
02:05:50,000 --> 02:05:50,520
all the time.

2698
02:05:50,840 --> 02:05:53,760
Speaker 2: I don't think we have anything to offer it was dark.

2699
02:05:56,119 --> 02:05:58,239
Speaker 1: I don't really yeah, really, I don't think he's so.

2700
02:05:58,239 --> 02:06:02,000
Speaker 2: I'm saying, we you don't have anything but marry yours

2701
02:06:02,119 --> 02:06:03,720
is all like you got to be near a jellyfish

2702
02:06:03,760 --> 02:06:05,800
and have to pee or something like. It's not that

2703
02:06:06,000 --> 02:06:07,439
that's something you can just do in the moment.

2704
02:06:07,720 --> 02:06:10,840
Speaker 3: That's the argument. The bonup a teat your majesty. She's

2705
02:06:10,880 --> 02:06:13,640
a cook, so she has to get herself in a kitchen,

2706
02:06:13,720 --> 02:06:15,960
and once she's in the kitchen, she uses all their old,

2707
02:06:16,039 --> 02:06:20,720
tiny materials and she uses her modern mind to invent

2708
02:06:20,840 --> 02:06:22,399
new techniques that they haven't heard.

2709
02:06:22,239 --> 02:06:25,199
Speaker 2: Of, makeup stuff she doesn't like land.

2710
02:06:25,399 --> 02:06:28,279
Speaker 3: Actually she does land with like a little pocket of

2711
02:06:28,319 --> 02:06:30,680
GoChi jung. But like for the rest of the episodes,

2712
02:06:31,039 --> 02:06:33,960
she's thinking of stuff she can make that they don't

2713
02:06:34,079 --> 02:06:36,439
know you could do it yet. But she has to

2714
02:06:36,520 --> 02:06:39,399
use their kitchen, so i'd be like, you don't know

2715
02:06:39,439 --> 02:06:42,600
how to do that milk oh invent?

2716
02:06:42,760 --> 02:06:44,520
Speaker 1: I don't know. Figure it out if you're the one

2717
02:06:44,560 --> 02:06:45,640
that is happening.

2718
02:06:45,800 --> 02:06:47,640
Speaker 2: Do they have vinegar and baking soda? Can you make

2719
02:06:47,680 --> 02:06:48,920
a vinegar and baking soda Mountain?

2720
02:06:49,159 --> 02:06:52,760
Speaker 3: Do they have mentos and diet coke or die Cooke.

2721
02:06:52,800 --> 02:06:55,199
Speaker 1: I don't think that's my favorite. Wha wait wait wait

2722
02:06:55,199 --> 02:06:57,960
wait wait wait wait, Dan, we have not talked about

2723
02:06:58,159 --> 02:06:59,720
the best instigral.

2724
02:07:00,199 --> 02:07:02,359
Speaker 2: I do, Mike, You and I have the dumbest back

2725
02:07:02,399 --> 02:07:03,720
and forth Instagram dms.

2726
02:07:03,960 --> 02:07:06,119
Speaker 1: Oh ship. I should have brought what's his name?

2727
02:07:07,520 --> 02:07:10,760
Speaker 2: The gulf between what you post on Instagram mic and

2728
02:07:10,840 --> 02:07:13,800
what you send me just it's just nothing but like

2729
02:07:13,960 --> 02:07:16,319
wine stuff send me.

2730
02:07:18,439 --> 02:07:20,840
Speaker 1: Ship. But the stuff I send to you, I'll find it.

2731
02:07:20,960 --> 02:07:22,399
Where's the last time I talked to dam?

2732
02:07:22,840 --> 02:07:25,439
Speaker 2: You can't, I can't. I cannot believe. I can't think

2733
02:07:25,479 --> 02:07:28,359
of I legitimately can't think of something good. I could

2734
02:07:28,399 --> 02:07:31,600
teach them to make them think I was like a prophet.

2735
02:07:34,560 --> 02:07:41,159
Speaker 1: Oh here he is what's his name on Instagram? Underscore?

2736
02:07:41,479 --> 02:07:42,439
Speaker 3: Never DM me anything?

2737
02:07:42,640 --> 02:07:44,039
Speaker 1: Oh sorry, I'll sign it to you right now.

2738
02:07:46,800 --> 02:07:50,439
Speaker 3: Mike sends me dog memes a lot I do.

2739
02:07:50,640 --> 02:07:53,720
Speaker 1: Yeah, I get my favorite no no ma underscore and

2740
02:07:54,239 --> 02:08:01,359
uh he just he sings like it's it's Korean pop songs,

2741
02:08:01,520 --> 02:08:04,399
while he does like dumb shit with mentos and diet

2742
02:08:04,439 --> 02:08:09,239
coke and water melons and or.

2743
02:08:09,359 --> 02:08:11,680
Speaker 2: For the video listeners, Mike is holding up his phone.

2744
02:08:11,760 --> 02:08:12,399
Here is a man.

2745
02:08:12,680 --> 02:08:14,800
Speaker 1: That is Uh, it's really good.

2746
02:08:16,039 --> 02:08:16,880
Speaker 2: You can tell it's great.

2747
02:08:17,199 --> 02:08:20,439
Speaker 1: There's always this, he's really good. I don't know, like

2748
02:08:20,520 --> 02:08:22,079
if you don't have your phone or anything, I don't

2749
02:08:22,079 --> 02:08:22,920
know what show them.

2750
02:08:23,520 --> 02:08:25,359
Speaker 3: Guys are obviously going to die.

2751
02:08:26,800 --> 02:08:30,000
Speaker 1: Fine, I'd make them some sick medieval cocktails or something.

2752
02:08:30,760 --> 02:08:32,359
Speaker 3: Thank you so much. Wes from Baltimore.

2753
02:08:32,399 --> 02:08:33,119
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, thank you, Wes.

2754
02:08:33,920 --> 02:08:43,279
Speaker 2: Uh three other times we know this time yeah, hey gang.

2755
02:08:43,439 --> 02:08:45,079
Speaker 1: The first time I played Ori and the Blind Forest,

2756
02:08:45,119 --> 02:08:47,039
I thought the spirit shrines were bonus challenges, so I

2757
02:08:47,119 --> 02:08:49,800
never bothered with them, meaning I never had more than

2758
02:08:49,880 --> 02:08:52,479
three shard slots. It took some doing, but I beat

2759
02:08:52,479 --> 02:08:55,239
the whole game with just those three slots. When have

2760
02:08:55,359 --> 02:08:57,199
you brute forced your way through a game playing it?

2761
02:08:57,319 --> 02:09:00,960
Quote unquote wrong from Hillary and Virginia PS. I also

2762
02:09:01,119 --> 02:09:03,840
never ate a tadpole in Balder's Gate three. I did

2763
02:09:03,920 --> 02:09:09,399
that last one. I never ate a tadpole. I similar

2764
02:09:09,520 --> 02:09:15,079
we were talking about in like there Billions, Uh, Tower

2765
02:09:15,159 --> 02:09:20,319
Dominion I really dis and Civilization six and seven. I

2766
02:09:20,439 --> 02:09:22,560
do not. I try my best not to restart, even

2767
02:09:22,600 --> 02:09:24,359
if I know the tiles are not going to lead

2768
02:09:24,359 --> 02:09:28,279
to a win. The early the starting positions. That is

2769
02:09:28,359 --> 02:09:29,840
kind of my way of brute forcing, but that's also

2770
02:09:30,000 --> 02:09:32,720
kind of my way of like just enjoying the game

2771
02:09:32,800 --> 02:09:34,760
for what it is and not knowing that the run's

2772
02:09:34,840 --> 02:09:38,359
not going to be ideal. Same with Bilatro, I rarely wiped.

2773
02:09:38,520 --> 02:09:40,439
I just wanted to see the run through until I died,

2774
02:09:40,479 --> 02:09:44,039
see what happened, even though I could tell pretty early

2775
02:09:44,119 --> 02:09:45,199
on that it wasn't gonna be a good one.

2776
02:09:46,720 --> 02:09:48,600
Speaker 2: I think mine is probably just, you know, just fight

2777
02:09:48,640 --> 02:09:50,399
how much I love Metal Year and everything, like I

2778
02:09:50,520 --> 02:09:53,239
just suck as stealth and like I will very quickly

2779
02:09:53,279 --> 02:09:55,840
abandon it. And just like through Delta, I was just

2780
02:09:55,920 --> 02:09:57,840
like shotgunning my way through a lot of it. You know,

2781
02:09:58,399 --> 02:09:59,399
I did the wrong way.

2782
02:09:59,680 --> 02:10:03,600
Speaker 1: I did the complete never alert any person in Dishonored

2783
02:10:03,640 --> 02:10:05,159
two run, which is one of the hardest things I've

2784
02:10:05,199 --> 02:10:07,199
done in a game. I love stealth games like I

2785
02:10:07,319 --> 02:10:12,600
played when possible, I play stealth, but like Dishonner two,

2786
02:10:12,720 --> 02:10:16,319
no alerts was very tough, a lot of restarts to

2787
02:10:16,399 --> 02:10:20,479
be clear. But I also Rob Hamley and I at

2788
02:10:20,520 --> 02:10:25,039
GameSpot did the what we call it Gravehoppers Permo Death's Show,

2789
02:10:25,840 --> 02:10:29,039
which is fun and uh, I forget I went away

2790
02:10:29,119 --> 02:10:31,520
on some vacation or work trip and then someone subbed

2791
02:10:31,560 --> 02:10:34,359
for me and ruined my resume before play through. Forget

2792
02:10:34,439 --> 02:10:37,720
I forget who it was. But yeah, anyone for those

2793
02:10:37,760 --> 02:10:39,680
who don't know, I still think that the idea is

2794
02:10:39,720 --> 02:10:41,600
really good. I just wish we had done it more.

2795
02:10:41,920 --> 02:10:44,760
But uh, some somebody at GameSpot thought it was a

2796
02:10:44,800 --> 02:10:49,119
bad idea above us. But Peter, Peter, yeah, Peter browns

2797
02:10:49,159 --> 02:10:53,800
like mix this right now, ye yo man, oh yeah,

2798
02:10:53,920 --> 02:10:56,159
we applied permo death to every single game we're playing.

2799
02:10:56,279 --> 02:10:59,279
So we started with I forget what, we start with

2800
02:11:00,159 --> 02:11:01,880
the last of us, and then as soon on the

2801
02:11:01,920 --> 02:11:04,039
hardest difficulty and as soon as you die, you switch

2802
02:11:04,119 --> 02:11:05,880
the next game because it's perman death. So you could

2803
02:11:05,920 --> 02:11:08,600
go through six games in one episode, or you could

2804
02:11:08,600 --> 02:11:12,079
be playing one game like Resume four for eight episodes

2805
02:11:12,119 --> 02:11:13,960
until someone subs in for you and gets killed by

2806
02:11:14,000 --> 02:11:15,039
the first chainsaw person.

2807
02:11:15,319 --> 02:11:16,920
Speaker 2: Peter Brown, Yeah, uh.

2808
02:11:17,479 --> 02:11:21,640
Speaker 3: This was a very stressful experience for me personally, to

2809
02:11:21,800 --> 02:11:25,600
jump into somebody else's game midway right when a chainsaw

2810
02:11:25,720 --> 02:11:29,399
guy appears and they are just like, don't let Mike's

2811
02:11:29,479 --> 02:11:34,279
character die, And I'm sorry that I couldn't figure it out.

2812
02:11:34,319 --> 02:11:36,640
Speaker 1: But I got you. The video was funny because you're like,

2813
02:11:36,680 --> 02:11:39,920
oh my god, he's gonna be pissed. I go, I

2814
02:11:39,960 --> 02:11:42,640
forgot why what game even jumped to? But yeah, I'd

2815
02:11:42,680 --> 02:11:45,239
say that's the most common one. I like it inserting

2816
02:11:45,359 --> 02:11:48,000
perman death into games where it technically doesn't exist. I

2817
02:11:48,079 --> 02:11:50,479
do that, Jake, and I did that in break Point

2818
02:11:50,560 --> 02:11:52,479
for a bit on the harder difficulty that was fun.

2819
02:11:53,000 --> 02:11:55,439
Speaker 2: Never died, something like a Mario or something that'd be fun.

2820
02:11:55,640 --> 02:11:56,239
Speaker 1: Make it harder.

2821
02:11:56,439 --> 02:12:02,439
Speaker 3: I accidentally made Tunic very difficult. That game. You start

2822
02:12:02,600 --> 02:12:04,760
with nothing, and I think eventually you get a stick

2823
02:12:05,319 --> 02:12:10,000
so you can hit certain enemies with and you're just

2824
02:12:10,000 --> 02:12:11,960
supposed to go to an area where you find a sword.

2825
02:12:12,239 --> 02:12:15,840
And for whatever reason, I did not find this sword,

2826
02:12:16,359 --> 02:12:18,640
and I thought that the game was challenging me to

2827
02:12:18,720 --> 02:12:25,560
get through the first area with a stick and you're

2828
02:12:25,600 --> 02:12:28,039
not supposed to. There is an area where there's grass

2829
02:12:28,079 --> 02:12:29,920
that you can't I think there's bushes and you can't

2830
02:12:29,960 --> 02:12:32,319
get through them because you cannot slash a bush with

2831
02:12:32,479 --> 02:12:36,399
a stick. You need the sword to get through these bushes.

2832
02:12:36,720 --> 02:12:40,880
But what I learned was if enemies, if I get

2833
02:12:40,920 --> 02:12:44,560
them to charge me and they slash. They could slash

2834
02:12:44,600 --> 02:12:47,319
through the bushes, and so I got the enemies to

2835
02:12:47,399 --> 02:12:49,239
slash the bushes, which got me into an area I

2836
02:12:49,239 --> 02:12:52,039
should not have gotten to with just a stick, and

2837
02:12:52,199 --> 02:12:57,199
I did an entire cave section with a boss with

2838
02:12:57,399 --> 02:13:01,800
a stick. It took forever. It was so hard to

2839
02:13:01,880 --> 02:13:03,960
kill this boss with a stick because it probably did

2840
02:13:04,079 --> 02:13:09,439
like zero point one damage, and I died all the time,

2841
02:13:09,520 --> 02:13:10,880
and I had to keep coming back and be like,

2842
02:13:10,920 --> 02:13:13,520
why do they make this game so fucking hard? And

2843
02:13:13,640 --> 02:13:16,880
then after I beat the boss and got back around

2844
02:13:16,960 --> 02:13:20,279
to it, I saw the sword at the very entry level.

2845
02:13:20,520 --> 02:13:23,520
So I did early game, like, you know, maybe a

2846
02:13:23,600 --> 02:13:27,680
tenth of that game with the wrong fucking weapon, and that.

2847
02:13:27,760 --> 02:13:31,079
Speaker 2: Combat is not forgiving anyway, you know, even if you

2848
02:13:31,119 --> 02:13:31,800
have the right weapon.

2849
02:13:32,920 --> 02:13:36,399
Speaker 3: It was a bad start to that game for Mary,

2850
02:13:36,720 --> 02:13:38,000
But it was my fault.

2851
02:13:38,640 --> 02:13:42,800
Speaker 1: I think a common one. I think Tim Terry's done this.

2852
02:13:42,880 --> 02:13:44,560
He was the one who first told me that like

2853
02:13:44,640 --> 02:13:47,159
that was a fad or people doing it was the

2854
02:13:47,479 --> 02:13:51,319
plasma cutter only Dead Space runs. Oh sure that that

2855
02:13:51,399 --> 02:13:54,119
game is one of the most like enjoyable iconic weapons

2856
02:13:54,159 --> 02:13:58,600
to use. So it wasn't like such a cools, like,

2857
02:13:58,720 --> 02:14:04,439
are the GPS knife ron knife? That's crazy. I've watched

2858
02:14:04,520 --> 02:14:06,159
him do that. Yeah, that's because you have to do

2859
02:14:06,239 --> 02:14:08,079
the bosses. Like I could see doing that against the

2860
02:14:08,119 --> 02:14:11,439
normal enemies, but the boss nay and all that. Yeah, yeah,

2861
02:14:12,640 --> 02:14:13,079
that's cool.

2862
02:14:13,560 --> 02:14:15,439
Speaker 3: It's different. What we're talking about was two different things, though.

2863
02:14:15,560 --> 02:14:18,039
I think there's one where you're like, whoops, played the

2864
02:14:18,119 --> 02:14:21,399
game on hard difficulty, and there's another where you're challenging yourself.

2865
02:14:22,760 --> 02:14:25,079
I think we could have a whole other conversation about

2866
02:14:25,159 --> 02:14:27,199
making the game more difficult because you want it to be.

2867
02:14:27,680 --> 02:14:30,560
This one is like, oh shit, I've made this way

2868
02:14:30,600 --> 02:14:32,800
too hard on accident because I was not paying attention.

2869
02:14:33,960 --> 02:14:38,359
Speaker 1: Yeah, for sure. Thank you, Hillary from Virginia, Dan, you

2870
02:14:38,399 --> 02:14:40,199
want to read this last one? From Matt from Indiana.

2871
02:14:41,199 --> 02:14:44,680
Speaker 2: Yes, Dear Fire Escape Cast. With the release of Snake

2872
02:14:44,760 --> 02:14:47,000
Eater Delta, I was wondering if you'd explain to me

2873
02:14:47,039 --> 02:14:50,199
why the song Snake Eater starts up when Snake is

2874
02:14:50,239 --> 02:14:53,359
climbing the giant ladder. Why did Kajima decide they should

2875
02:14:53,399 --> 02:14:56,840
sing a song about Snake's character. Nobody would break out

2876
02:14:56,920 --> 02:14:59,560
and song while climbing a ladder in real life. Why

2877
02:14:59,600 --> 02:15:01,920
doesn't Snake just say how he's feeling? It said, it

2878
02:15:02,039 --> 02:15:04,199
really takes me out of the game, Thanks Matt Media.

2879
02:15:04,439 --> 02:15:07,279
This is low tier trolling a tempier. This is it

2880
02:15:07,359 --> 02:15:10,960
doesn't even make sense, really, Snake. Matt is positing that

2881
02:15:11,159 --> 02:15:14,479
Snake is singing Snake Eater as he's climbing the ladder.

2882
02:15:14,800 --> 02:15:16,920
That's not the case. No, just a song is playing

2883
02:15:17,239 --> 02:15:19,439
during a scene in a video game. It's not a

2884
02:15:19,560 --> 02:15:23,119
diegetic thing where if Big Boss had started singing that

2885
02:15:23,199 --> 02:15:25,520
while he's climbing the ladder, I would have hated that.

2886
02:15:25,880 --> 02:15:29,159
But it's just a song playing as the man. That's

2887
02:15:29,239 --> 02:15:31,640
just that's a cinema right there, Like, that's this is

2888
02:15:31,800 --> 02:15:32,680
if you're gonna ttrol do.

2889
02:15:32,720 --> 02:15:34,560
Speaker 1: It better, Matt. Yeah, but why did they play the

2890
02:15:34,640 --> 02:15:35,000
song though?

2891
02:15:35,439 --> 02:15:38,479
Speaker 2: Because it was cool? That happens all the time in movies.

2892
02:15:38,560 --> 02:15:40,800
Movies all the time. Just play a song when it's

2893
02:15:40,880 --> 02:15:43,039
cool because it just fits the scene or something like that.

2894
02:15:43,439 --> 02:15:46,079
Or you can even do it diegetically where it's like,

2895
02:15:46,159 --> 02:15:48,479
let's say Wayne's World, they're all singing, but he mean

2896
02:15:48,600 --> 02:15:51,439
Rhapsody in the car. That's great because in that scene

2897
02:15:51,720 --> 02:15:54,600
it makes sense they're all in the car. They're into

2898
02:15:54,680 --> 02:15:56,640
the song and they're singing along to the song.

2899
02:15:56,800 --> 02:15:59,800
Speaker 3: They're not singing how they feel. They're singing lyrics to

2900
02:15:59,840 --> 02:16:00,359
a song.

2901
02:16:00,640 --> 02:16:03,479
Speaker 2: It's drunk dudes. It's drunk dudes in a car singing

2902
02:16:03,520 --> 02:16:05,680
along to a song they like. Yes, that makes perfect sense.

2903
02:16:06,000 --> 02:16:08,560
Just the sheer act of a song playing or character

2904
02:16:08,680 --> 02:16:12,439
singing does not make it stupid. It's characters just singing.

2905
02:16:12,600 --> 02:16:15,600
What normal people would say is where it gets stupid.

2906
02:16:15,680 --> 02:16:17,560
So Matt, just try harder next time.

2907
02:16:17,760 --> 02:16:22,479
Speaker 1: Leave the troll aside. Why do you what impact does

2908
02:16:22,640 --> 02:16:25,079
that song and the long ladder have and why did

2909
02:16:25,159 --> 02:16:27,199
they implement it right after the.

2910
02:16:28,840 --> 02:16:31,680
Speaker 2: Fire at the end of the fight against the end

2911
02:16:31,800 --> 02:16:32,399
as you go up to.

2912
02:16:32,399 --> 02:16:35,639
Speaker 1: The the end. Yeah, yeah, I'm sincerely not strolling you.

2913
02:16:36,639 --> 02:16:39,840
It's just some Kagema quirkiness right there. That's all it is.

2914
02:16:39,959 --> 02:16:42,159
If he's such a genius, though this is a separate thing.

2915
02:16:42,200 --> 02:16:43,760
I'm asking you, if he's such a genius, why did

2916
02:16:43,760 --> 02:16:44,760
he make the ladder so long?

2917
02:16:46,200 --> 02:16:48,239
Speaker 2: Because it's funny that it's bigger than normal ladder.

2918
02:16:48,879 --> 02:16:53,440
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's your best answer for that. I like how

2919
02:16:53,479 --> 02:16:54,120
big the latter is.

2920
02:16:54,159 --> 02:16:56,120
Speaker 2: Everyone loves the ladder. Are you going to be smirch

2921
02:16:56,239 --> 02:16:56,680
the ladder.

2922
02:16:57,000 --> 02:17:00,479
Speaker 1: No, I like it a lot. I have ever play

2923
02:17:00,520 --> 02:17:04,239
on it. But okay, it's a fantastic scene. I'm actually

2924
02:17:04,280 --> 02:17:06,840
asking you to dig deeper for once. That's not really

2925
02:17:06,879 --> 02:17:08,799
my forte. Yeah, but you say it's the best story

2926
02:17:08,879 --> 02:17:10,639
ever told in any medium, So I'm curious what.

2927
02:17:10,639 --> 02:17:12,479
Speaker 2: You don't say. The latter is the lynch pin of

2928
02:17:12,520 --> 02:17:12,920
the story.

2929
02:17:13,079 --> 02:17:14,879
Speaker 1: Yeah, but it's part of one of the best stories

2930
02:17:14,920 --> 02:17:15,239
ever told.

2931
02:17:15,399 --> 02:17:16,159
Speaker 2: A fun little moment.

2932
02:17:16,639 --> 02:17:18,479
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's not long.

2933
02:17:19,159 --> 02:17:21,639
Speaker 3: What if your skill is that when you go back

2934
02:17:21,680 --> 02:17:26,040
in time you can regale them with the entire snake

2935
02:17:26,079 --> 02:17:27,280
Eater story.

2936
02:17:27,280 --> 02:17:30,319
Speaker 2: From being I don't know, Lyndon B. Johnson, that's pretty important.

2937
02:17:31,799 --> 02:17:34,079
Speaker 3: Maybe you can just replace it with a different showgun

2938
02:17:34,239 --> 02:17:34,639
or something.

2939
02:17:34,799 --> 02:17:37,159
Speaker 2: King Edward or whoever was the guy back then.

2940
02:17:38,360 --> 02:17:40,520
Speaker 3: Yes, but this is like feudal Japan.

2941
02:17:40,680 --> 02:17:43,719
Speaker 2: So I don't think. I don't think they like uh,

2942
02:17:44,280 --> 02:17:46,040
I don't think they like or care about metal of

2943
02:17:46,040 --> 02:17:47,760
your stories. Now. I think they would just think I

2944
02:17:47,799 --> 02:17:48,520
was stupid and kill me.

2945
02:17:48,639 --> 02:17:50,440
Speaker 3: You should just die. I'm trying to throw you a

2946
02:17:50,520 --> 02:17:53,239
bone here. I'm what I'm saying is is like we

2947
02:17:53,479 --> 02:18:00,520
have modern stories, we have modern music, We probably know

2948
02:18:00,680 --> 02:18:03,360
some modern art, like I'm sure there's something you can

2949
02:18:03,440 --> 02:18:04,639
do with that that would save you.

2950
02:18:06,440 --> 02:18:09,200
Speaker 2: I can't paint, so I can't just like, oh, here's

2951
02:18:09,239 --> 02:18:09,799
Storry night.

2952
02:18:09,959 --> 02:18:13,079
Speaker 3: You know what if you could, like, uh, you'd be

2953
02:18:13,200 --> 02:18:16,280
like listen, I'm gonna tell you, guys, uh, and you

2954
02:18:16,399 --> 02:18:20,879
just you just literally like explain mcgruber from beginning to end.

2955
02:18:21,040 --> 02:18:24,559
Speaker 2: That's absolutely not That would mean nothing. That relies so

2956
02:18:24,719 --> 02:18:27,559
heavily on knowledge of what it's satirizing and all that stuff,

2957
02:18:27,559 --> 02:18:30,079
there's no way they would kill me ten seconds into

2958
02:18:30,120 --> 02:18:30,760
that explanation.

2959
02:18:31,239 --> 02:18:33,360
Speaker 1: I really agree with Dan, Dan. I don't think you

2960
02:18:33,440 --> 02:18:34,879
have any actual skills.

2961
02:18:36,079 --> 02:18:38,120
Speaker 2: I mean I have skills that can apply in twenty

2962
02:18:38,280 --> 02:18:43,399
twenty five, Like what, but you go even thirty years back,

2963
02:18:43,680 --> 02:18:45,799
let's let's say fifty, let's say the seventies. If the

2964
02:18:45,840 --> 02:18:47,399
world I'm just useless.

2965
02:18:47,520 --> 02:18:50,719
Speaker 1: If if the post apocalypse started, you would be fucked.

2966
02:18:51,680 --> 02:18:54,239
Speaker 2: The video games and just that type of pop.

2967
02:18:54,079 --> 02:18:56,520
Speaker 3: Culture for a dollar.

2968
02:18:56,799 --> 02:18:58,760
Speaker 1: If you guys would spell and you.

2969
02:18:58,840 --> 02:19:00,680
Speaker 2: Had to say, oh, oh, so that's the other way

2970
02:19:00,719 --> 02:19:02,559
aroun instead of going back further, it's just like, oh,

2971
02:19:02,639 --> 02:19:06,520
post apocalypse, I got nothing. I have absolutely nothing, no knowledge,

2972
02:19:06,959 --> 02:19:08,200
no uses at all.

2973
02:19:08,360 --> 02:19:11,600
Speaker 1: No, I think it'd be fine for like a few weeks.

2974
02:19:12,360 --> 02:19:14,079
Speaker 2: I think that's where, you know, when Mary brought up

2975
02:19:14,079 --> 02:19:16,040
the like meditation stuff, the mental health stuff. I think

2976
02:19:16,079 --> 02:19:17,879
I could have some insight there because you know, we'd

2977
02:19:17,920 --> 02:19:19,239
all be going through a rough time. I think I

2978
02:19:19,319 --> 02:19:22,280
could maybe help some people with that. But I'm not

2979
02:19:22,360 --> 02:19:24,239
a not a doctor. I think there'd be enough doctors

2980
02:19:24,280 --> 02:19:26,159
that could do better help.

2981
02:19:26,399 --> 02:19:28,639
Speaker 3: But back then, like a lot of the doctors were

2982
02:19:28,719 --> 02:19:31,280
like use leeches. Like, I'm sure you have like more

2983
02:19:31,760 --> 02:19:33,079
modern knowledge that would help you.

2984
02:19:33,639 --> 02:19:36,360
Speaker 2: I mean, like I can explain meditation and stuff like that,

2985
02:19:36,520 --> 02:19:36,760
but like.

2986
02:19:40,159 --> 02:19:41,000
Speaker 3: Take it till you make it.

2987
02:19:41,399 --> 02:19:43,200
Speaker 2: I'd be a good snake oil guy. If we go

2988
02:19:43,319 --> 02:19:45,120
back to like red dead times, I'd be a great

2989
02:19:45,159 --> 02:19:52,680
snake oil guy. What would you sell snake oil? That'd

2990
02:19:52,760 --> 02:19:56,079
be sick be the og snake oil cells? Yeah, yeah,

2991
02:19:56,399 --> 02:19:57,600
you heard about the snake oils.

2992
02:19:57,959 --> 02:20:01,959
Speaker 1: Check it out. Cure what ails you go back in time?

2993
02:20:02,719 --> 02:20:06,440
Show Kojima this real tall ladder. I'd be like, do

2994
02:20:06,520 --> 02:20:06,959
you have no.

2995
02:20:07,079 --> 02:20:10,200
Speaker 3: Idea this is cinema?

2996
02:20:11,440 --> 02:20:16,479
Speaker 1: I don't know. Yeah, I think I would. I could cook.

2997
02:20:16,559 --> 02:20:18,559
I could not as well as this woman. It sounds

2998
02:20:18,600 --> 02:20:21,399
like from the show. But I could I can make

2999
02:20:21,440 --> 02:20:24,600
a make some sort of medieval cocktail from mead and

3000
02:20:26,959 --> 02:20:29,600
whip up some simple You two.

3001
02:20:29,520 --> 02:20:32,559
Speaker 2: Are in better shape than me. Is there some exercise

3002
02:20:32,719 --> 02:20:34,719
things some like like oh, here's a better way to

3003
02:20:34,760 --> 02:20:36,399
do a push up or a dead lift or something.

3004
02:20:36,440 --> 02:20:39,000
You could maybe teach them and they'd be impressed by.

3005
02:20:40,680 --> 02:20:43,079
Speaker 3: I don't know if push ups are gonna save you,

3006
02:20:44,360 --> 02:20:47,120
because they like, oh, she's onto something here. They're very

3007
02:20:47,239 --> 02:20:50,559
fit back then, like they weren't worried about I don't

3008
02:20:50,600 --> 02:20:50,959
think so.

3009
02:20:51,719 --> 02:20:54,799
Speaker 1: I think there are. I think there were. And where

3010
02:20:54,840 --> 02:20:56,520
are we talking? Where we talk? Are we talking Middle

3011
02:20:56,520 --> 02:20:57,120
Ages and Europe?

3012
02:20:57,239 --> 02:20:58,920
Speaker 2: Or like whenever the castles were.

3013
02:21:00,680 --> 02:21:06,559
Speaker 1: Yeah, so they were. They would have been they wouldn't

3014
02:21:06,559 --> 02:21:09,959
have been like shredded. They would have been like farmer fit. Yeah,

3015
02:21:10,840 --> 02:21:15,399
so in shape. But because they can't they can't binge

3016
02:21:15,680 --> 02:21:16,120
on food.

3017
02:21:16,239 --> 02:21:18,440
Speaker 3: But what I'm saying is like they don't need help

3018
02:21:18,520 --> 02:21:20,159
with like exercise regimens.

3019
02:21:20,280 --> 02:21:23,079
Speaker 1: They're they're yeah, they're exercising just to survive.

3020
02:21:23,600 --> 02:21:23,920
Speaker 3: Correct.

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Speaker 1: The castle people maybe might have been fat, like they

3022
02:21:27,520 --> 02:21:28,040
might have been.

3023
02:21:28,680 --> 02:21:31,079
Speaker 2: The castle people, I mean people that lived in castle times,

3024
02:21:31,920 --> 02:21:33,559
So like that includes the farm.

3025
02:21:33,360 --> 02:21:36,360
Speaker 1: Workers and stuff. Uh huh, I don't know, not like

3026
02:21:36,680 --> 02:21:37,799
the nobility. You know.

3027
02:21:38,399 --> 02:21:42,280
Speaker 2: Yeah, there's kind of some good lift you could teach

3028
02:21:42,360 --> 02:21:42,920
him or something.

3029
02:21:44,120 --> 02:21:46,600
Speaker 1: I go from flaccid to erect and back in like

3030
02:21:46,799 --> 02:21:51,479
three seconds. Did they have obs? I could teach them

3031
02:21:51,520 --> 02:21:53,959
some things there. What would you teach them about obs?

3032
02:21:54,600 --> 02:22:01,280
And filters and you know studio mode born. Oh my god,

3033
02:22:02,000 --> 02:22:05,719
I thought I thought you were saying ibs. In my head,

3034
02:22:07,440 --> 02:22:09,760
I was for irritable bell syndrome.

3035
02:22:10,159 --> 02:22:11,840
Speaker 2: Oh, I don't know that yet.

3036
02:22:13,479 --> 02:22:16,399
Speaker 3: I can't think of anything, Dan, like, you're so.

3037
02:22:16,639 --> 02:22:19,000
Speaker 1: Total it might be dead, but you too, you don't

3038
02:22:19,000 --> 02:22:19,719
have anything good for you.

3039
02:22:19,920 --> 02:22:20,879
Speaker 2: You have to make up things.

3040
02:22:21,040 --> 02:22:24,319
Speaker 3: I have hair and makeup techniques. I would I would

3041
02:22:24,360 --> 02:22:29,360
regale them with tales of all of the songs.

3042
02:22:28,959 --> 02:22:29,440
Speaker 2: That I know.

3043
02:22:29,760 --> 02:22:32,280
Speaker 1: I've got one, I've got one, I think I've got one.

3044
02:22:33,079 --> 02:22:36,120
They were really into court jesters. They appreciated comedy. You

3045
02:22:36,280 --> 02:22:38,840
start rattling off a few like jokes from some renowned

3046
02:22:38,879 --> 02:22:43,879
comics from our time, like George Cochlin, so much that no,

3047
02:22:44,200 --> 02:22:46,559
you go back to fucking Middle Ages in Russia and

3048
02:22:46,600 --> 02:22:48,680
you're rattling off the jokes. Norm was telling with all

3049
02:22:48,760 --> 02:22:54,479
these dostereev Skis and fedoriovichitchesibilities would be so different. I

3050
02:22:54,639 --> 02:22:57,479
think norms. Sensibilities are pretty old school when you really

3051
02:22:57,559 --> 02:22:58,120
dig into them.

3052
02:22:58,280 --> 02:23:03,360
Speaker 3: I know, but I think he would get killed if

3053
02:23:03,399 --> 02:23:08,040
he like said things against religion, like that's all they

3054
02:23:08,159 --> 02:23:08,920
had back then.

3055
02:23:09,799 --> 02:23:10,520
Speaker 1: God are we just?

3056
02:23:11,079 --> 02:23:14,920
Speaker 3: But if you, if you sung, shake it off? Would

3057
02:23:14,959 --> 02:23:16,079
that not appeal to them?

3058
02:23:16,159 --> 02:23:19,319
Speaker 2: But without all the instrumentation and the better singers and

3059
02:23:19,319 --> 02:23:22,959
stuff like that, like that comes singing, shake it off,

3060
02:23:23,000 --> 02:23:25,000
it's not going to do it right, no.

3061
02:23:27,760 --> 02:23:28,120
Speaker 1: It now?

3062
02:23:28,399 --> 02:23:33,520
Speaker 2: Yeah, I just shake it off. You gotta shake it off,

3063
02:23:34,079 --> 02:23:36,200
all right, Fellas, don't stab me with their swords.

3064
02:23:38,520 --> 02:23:41,120
Speaker 1: Shake off that. You see this naked terminator man with

3065
02:23:41,159 --> 02:23:41,559
the beard.

3066
02:23:44,120 --> 02:23:46,280
Speaker 3: I think it's a stretch to call any of us

3067
02:23:46,399 --> 02:23:50,440
terminator man. That's just the newdy skinny boy.

3068
02:23:50,760 --> 02:23:53,200
Speaker 2: I would all the hidden one Upstar and Mario.

3069
02:23:53,399 --> 02:23:55,120
Speaker 1: I would just kill them all first.

3070
02:23:55,760 --> 02:23:58,440
Speaker 2: Oh that's okay. I can't believe that we don't have

3071
02:23:58,479 --> 02:23:59,200
good answers for this.

3072
02:23:59,399 --> 02:24:02,479
Speaker 3: I know they're probably I can I can make a discord.

3073
02:24:03,360 --> 02:24:06,479
Speaker 1: Yeah, people write in tell us how we would survive.

3074
02:24:07,079 --> 02:24:12,600
Impress them with event cheese. I think now they're eating.

3075
02:24:12,799 --> 02:24:13,959
Would you be able to produce it.

3076
02:24:15,079 --> 02:24:16,760
Speaker 2: I can think you can show them, like walk them

3077
02:24:16,799 --> 02:24:18,319
to a cow and then, like you know, a couple

3078
02:24:18,319 --> 02:24:19,319
of hours later, have cheese.

3079
02:24:19,520 --> 02:24:22,440
Speaker 3: I can figure it out. I think now that I

3080
02:24:22,520 --> 02:24:25,360
know it's possible, I could figure it out. Not like Cheddar, though,

3081
02:24:25,559 --> 02:24:26,479
I would figure it out.

3082
02:24:26,879 --> 02:24:28,440
Speaker 2: Tell them how many the mebos I have.

3083
02:24:31,520 --> 02:24:33,799
Speaker 1: Call up your friends at Uda Pills. Tell them you

3084
02:24:33,879 --> 02:24:36,520
have a partnership with them. That's right.

3085
02:24:36,680 --> 02:24:39,000
Speaker 2: Yeah, come to Minnesota Castle people.

3086
02:24:40,200 --> 02:24:43,120
Speaker 1: Tell them about all the benefits of Dell Alien Wears,

3087
02:24:43,159 --> 02:24:51,079
summer gaming events factor now God, give them a giant

3088
02:24:51,120 --> 02:24:55,000
bomb free subscription for a month. Yeah, watch us play games.

3089
02:24:55,920 --> 02:24:59,120
Speaker 2: This is my friend Mike, but not explaining Saturn games now.

3090
02:24:59,239 --> 02:25:00,319
Speaker 1: Yeah. Nice fuck.

3091
02:25:00,399 --> 02:25:01,239
Speaker 2: There's just nothing.

3092
02:25:01,959 --> 02:25:04,600
Speaker 1: Figure it out. People right into us, all of us.

3093
02:25:05,479 --> 02:25:09,719
I think I'll figure something out. I'm sure they'd be

3094
02:25:09,799 --> 02:25:11,799
into wine stuff. I could recall them there.

3095
02:25:11,840 --> 02:25:14,000
Speaker 3: I I would invent a new candy.

3096
02:25:15,479 --> 02:25:17,680
Speaker 2: But you don't know how to make candy. If I

3097
02:25:17,760 --> 02:25:18,840
put a gun to your head right now and I

3098
02:25:18,879 --> 02:25:20,280
said make me some candy, how would you do? In

3099
02:25:20,360 --> 02:25:21,159
twenty twenty five?

3100
02:25:21,799 --> 02:25:27,399
Speaker 3: Sugar water boil that shit. Add color.

3101
02:25:28,559 --> 02:25:35,600
Speaker 1: That's just simple syrup with Caramel, I think they had

3102
02:25:35,639 --> 02:25:45,360
stuff like that. Well, thank you, Indiana. That's our show again.

3103
02:25:45,440 --> 02:25:46,959
You can ride a fire skip castle. Email at dot

3104
02:25:47,040 --> 02:25:48,840
com please if you have any ways for Dan to

3105
02:25:48,920 --> 02:25:52,159
survive in castle times right in for any of us,

3106
02:25:52,200 --> 02:25:55,760
I guess right in how each of us would survive

3107
02:25:55,840 --> 02:25:57,719
in this situation if we just appear naked in a

3108
02:25:57,760 --> 02:25:59,920
castle in the Middle Ages and we don't have any

3109
02:25:59,920 --> 02:26:02,680
of our trusty gadgets or the key thing is too.

3110
02:26:02,719 --> 02:26:06,200
Speaker 2: It has to be based on our actual personal knowledge.

3111
02:26:06,200 --> 02:26:08,079
You can't just be knowledge from twenty twenty five. It

3112
02:26:08,200 --> 02:26:10,799
has to be like something Mike would know now, something

3113
02:26:10,879 --> 02:26:11,559
I would know now.

3114
02:26:12,639 --> 02:26:15,120
Speaker 1: Our interests tell us how each of us would survive,

3115
02:26:16,360 --> 02:26:19,440
or the stuff each of us are capable of, maybe

3116
02:26:19,559 --> 02:26:22,600
researching a bit farther to be prepared for when such

3117
02:26:22,600 --> 02:26:28,079
an event happens. I think, I think, I think we'll

3118
02:26:28,079 --> 02:26:31,000
get there. Well, thank you, Matt.

3119
02:26:31,319 --> 02:26:33,920
Speaker 2: How to do a cannonball into a lake or something,

3120
02:26:34,399 --> 02:26:35,280
You're got to hope.

3121
02:26:35,120 --> 02:26:37,399
Speaker 3: There's a lake nearby. And also I'm pretty sure that

3122
02:26:37,479 --> 02:26:40,079
they know how to put themselves into little body.

3123
02:26:39,799 --> 02:26:41,879
Speaker 2: Balls in John, have you seen a painting of a

3124
02:26:42,079 --> 02:26:45,520
castle person doing a cannonball outside of actual cannibals.

3125
02:26:45,879 --> 02:26:48,639
Speaker 1: They've all been The Elder did a lot of cannonball paintings,

3126
02:26:53,040 --> 02:26:57,840
a couple of housekeeping things. We have a restock on

3127
02:26:58,040 --> 02:27:01,159
our stainless steel water bottle on fourth wall dot Com

3128
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that ran out, So if you're interested in getting that

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for I don't know, if you want to just like

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make sure you're hydrated at work and maybe going for

3131
02:27:09,639 --> 02:27:10,040
some run.

3132
02:27:10,239 --> 02:27:14,680
Speaker 2: Questions if I said E equals empcy squared and I

3133
02:27:14,799 --> 02:27:21,000
said energy equals mass times content, use the square, you

3134
02:27:21,120 --> 02:27:24,799
don't know again with Okay, but if I gave if

3135
02:27:24,840 --> 02:27:27,280
I just said egles empty squared, would that like cause

3136
02:27:27,280 --> 02:27:29,159
all the wizards to have an haha momen be like

3137
02:27:29,200 --> 02:27:29,879
he's a genius.

3138
02:27:30,520 --> 02:27:32,559
Speaker 1: No, because the theyn't even know what it means.

3139
02:27:33,040 --> 02:27:36,840
Speaker 2: Yeah, energy equals mass c squared.

3140
02:27:37,840 --> 02:27:39,799
Speaker 1: I think you that that's your best bet. Try that.

3141
02:27:41,239 --> 02:27:42,200
Speaker 3: Yeah, run with that.

3142
02:27:43,440 --> 02:27:45,959
Speaker 1: Our stayless steel water bottle, the white one, the seventeen

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ounces back in stock and fourth wall dot Com. We also, uh, Dan, Mary,

3144
02:27:50,399 --> 02:27:51,920
I hope you don't mind me. I don't think this

3145
02:27:51,959 --> 02:27:54,120
is premature to say. We do have some new merch

3146
02:27:54,239 --> 02:27:58,200
on the way. We will announce it maybe by next episode,

3147
02:27:58,239 --> 02:28:02,159
next couple episodes. Uh, got a new fire Escape kind

3148
02:28:02,159 --> 02:28:05,200
of let's say Fall twenty twenty five design coming out.

3149
02:28:05,559 --> 02:28:07,680
We will update people when that is on fourth Wall

3150
02:28:07,760 --> 02:28:10,479
and live for people to purchase. So C is the

3151
02:28:10,639 --> 02:28:13,079
speed of light? Where's the same play in there?

3152
02:28:13,120 --> 02:28:13,639
Speaker 3: There's no C?

3153
02:28:15,719 --> 02:28:19,840
Speaker 1: Is that real? Sorry? What the C in E equals

3154
02:28:19,959 --> 02:28:22,520
mc squared is the speed of light? I googled it.

3155
02:28:24,719 --> 02:28:27,719
I thought the whole equation was the speed of light. No,

3156
02:28:28,200 --> 02:28:29,840
mass is the speed of light.

3157
02:28:29,920 --> 02:28:30,760
Speaker 2: There's no C in that.

3158
02:28:32,680 --> 02:28:37,639
Speaker 1: He equals energy equals mass speed of light two squared

3159
02:28:38,440 --> 02:28:40,040
times itself. I don't know.

3160
02:28:40,840 --> 02:28:42,399
Speaker 3: You're just not meant to be a philosopher.

3161
02:28:42,440 --> 02:28:45,200
Speaker 1: Theory of relativity, Okay, sorry?

3162
02:28:45,920 --> 02:28:47,760
Speaker 3: An object in motion stays in motion.

3163
02:28:48,639 --> 02:28:50,200
Speaker 1: Unless acted on by an outside motion.

3164
02:28:52,799 --> 02:28:56,079
Speaker 3: Oh yeah, you get that thing with the balls that bounce.

3165
02:28:56,479 --> 02:28:57,239
Speaker 2: I'd have to make it.

3166
02:28:59,079 --> 02:29:05,440
Speaker 1: Yeah, get a bunch of the nights. I'm assuming they're nights.

3167
02:29:07,120 --> 02:29:11,280
This is tough, Like I said. Merch at fire scat

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3170
02:29:17,239 --> 02:29:19,639
the links there. We will put a post up when

3171
02:29:19,680 --> 02:29:22,079
the new stuff is up. But our stainless steel water

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bottle is good to go if you're interested. Also, do

3173
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I have anything else? Is that it? We'll start We'll

3174
02:29:33,399 --> 02:29:36,319
start letting people know about Game of the Year timing.

3175
02:29:36,440 --> 02:29:39,319
We're getting sort of to that point where we're gonna

3176
02:29:39,319 --> 02:29:41,879
start giving hard dates in the next few episodes so

3177
02:29:41,959 --> 02:29:44,760
people can know we did need to be booked. Yes,

3178
02:29:45,040 --> 02:29:48,559
we did mid November last year. We h it was fun.

3179
02:29:48,600 --> 02:29:50,360
We got ahead of everybody, and that was also a

3180
02:29:50,440 --> 02:29:54,520
convenient time for us. But right now we're aiming for later,

3181
02:29:54,600 --> 02:29:57,159
aiming for the December timing. Well, we'll see what I mean.

3182
02:29:57,159 --> 02:29:59,840
Speaker 2: I would prefer December or even January if we have

3183
02:30:00,479 --> 02:30:02,760
but like, we are looking at December stuff. But obviously

3184
02:30:02,799 --> 02:30:04,280
I got to know figure out what we're doing Giant

3185
02:30:04,280 --> 02:30:06,559
Bomb and stuff, So to be determined with some of

3186
02:30:06,639 --> 02:30:09,280
this stuff. But we will be doing this in person

3187
02:30:10,760 --> 02:30:13,360
near the end of the year. Yes, look it forward

3188
02:30:13,399 --> 02:30:13,559
to it.

3189
02:30:14,239 --> 02:30:16,000
Speaker 1: Dan. What do you have going on in the meantime.

3190
02:30:16,159 --> 02:30:18,680
Speaker 2: Giant bomb dot Com. We're killing it over there. Mike

3191
02:30:18,719 --> 02:30:20,520
Manatti is playing the new season of Blake Club. He

3192
02:30:20,600 --> 02:30:23,600
was playing virtual Hidelight for the Saturn. It looks like

3193
02:30:23,840 --> 02:30:27,600
hot horseshit to me. He actually likes it. But yeah,

3194
02:30:27,719 --> 02:30:30,200
check out john bomb dot com. BombCast boys wont dump

3195
02:30:30,200 --> 02:30:33,319
truck all this stuff we're doing over there, Mary, what about.

3196
02:30:33,079 --> 02:30:37,319
Speaker 3: You streaming on Mondays? Come check me out on my

3197
02:30:37,399 --> 02:30:39,719
Twitch channel. I play a lot of the games that

3198
02:30:39,760 --> 02:30:40,440
we talk about here.

3199
02:30:40,520 --> 02:30:44,280
Speaker 1: First Cool. We will be back in a couple of

3200
02:30:44,280 --> 02:30:46,200
weeks with episode one sixteen. Thank you so much for

3201
02:30:46,319 --> 02:30:50,319
joining us. Until then, have a good time. We'll see

3202
02:30:50,399 --> 02:30:53,959
then write in help us survive Castle times. We'd appreciate it, each,

3203
02:30:54,079 --> 02:31:00,440
each of us. We need, we need help to live everyone,

3204
02:31:01,680 --> 02:31:02,079
Bye bye.

3205
02:31:03,000 --> 02:31:05,319
Speaker 3: I think you could like show them new words.

3206
02:31:07,799 --> 02:31:08,360
Speaker 1: What would I have?

3207
02:31:09,920 --> 02:31:13,280
Speaker 2: They just I don't know what you know what I mean, like,

3208
02:31:13,399 --> 02:31:16,879
I know, not slang, no, no, not slang stuff. I'm

3209
02:31:16,920 --> 02:31:20,360
sure there's more applicable like modern words, but like I

3210
02:31:20,440 --> 02:31:22,639
don't know. They would just say, I'm just gibberish.

3211
02:31:24,159 --> 02:31:26,120
Speaker 1: Yeah. I think just the way we are talking right

3212
02:31:26,159 --> 02:31:28,079
now would be gibberish to them that we're not using

3213
02:31:28,159 --> 02:31:32,280
they and old Winst Yeah, yield.

3214
02:31:32,719 --> 02:31:34,760
Speaker 3: I feel like you could add riz into Winst.

3215
02:31:35,680 --> 02:31:37,200
Speaker 1: Marry They're not gonna laugh you from the get go.

3216
02:31:38,479 --> 02:31:45,639
Speaker 2: Yes, true, I don't say, Oh, mister Elizabeth Banks is ugly.

3217
02:31:47,040 --> 02:31:48,479
Speaker 3: Yeah, shut the fuck up, Mart.

3218
02:31:50,280 --> 02:31:54,920
Speaker 1: Are we recording still next episode

