Speaker 1: Welcome to the Parenting Roundabout podcast. I'm Terry Morrow and
Speaker 1: I'm Catherine hileco. As parents and parenting writers, we can't
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Speaker 1: going over the same parenting topics over and over.
Speaker 2: So since we're pretty sure we can find parenting wisdom anywhere,
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Speaker 2: our families. Each Wednesday we bring you our thoughts on
Speaker 2: a newer entertainment property, And for this week of December second,
Speaker 2: we're discussing the fifth episode of the new season of Shrinking.
Speaker 2: It is called.
Speaker 3: Honesty Era, in which honesty is a really bad policy.
Speaker 2: For really is for the Connor side.
Speaker 3: I'mer Alice Trio, and for Sean and his dad.
Speaker 1: Ha yeah, yeah to some degrees degree, for Lizen Derrek too.
Speaker 1: If Jimmy had not yes, I just I was so
Speaker 1: excited to see Josh Hopkins because he was on Cougartown
Speaker 1: and it's like, really, all great, Josh Hopkins is here.
Speaker 1: And then you very quickly saw where this was going
Speaker 1: to go, and I was like, no, go back stop.
Speaker 3: Yeah, and there was there was even the honesty among
Speaker 3: uh Brian and his husband and the adoption guy.
Speaker 1: Straight, can I give it adoption?
Speaker 2: Can I give it back?
Speaker 1: Yeah? Adoption stuff, which is going very quickly. Yeah, as
Speaker 1: I remember from my past, that's not how it works.
Speaker 1: Then again, who knows, things may have changed. Maybe it
Speaker 1: would have been different in California. Maybe it would have
Speaker 1: been different if I was on a TV show.
Speaker 2: It's all yeah, I'm guessing that's the key, being on
Speaker 2: a TV show.
Speaker 1: Yeah, but oh, poor Connor falls for the falls for that.
Speaker 1: You can tell me anything high right, anything with that. Yeah,
Speaker 1: that was a rookie mistake, buddy. Oh yes, So yeah,
Speaker 1: a Summer finds out about him and Alice and is
Speaker 1: not okay with all secrets, but in fact just goes
Speaker 1: and leaps on Alice in fury.
Speaker 2: Yes, so, and then Alice has to apologize to Liz
Speaker 2: for yesing up her good thing she had going with Summer.
Speaker 1: Yeah, but Derek is just as glad. It's not like
Speaker 1: something he wears. She wears his shirts. I found it
Speaker 1: in a basket and everything is covered with glittery.
Speaker 3: Yes, but I mean I do obviously that had to
Speaker 3: come out, like whether in TV show or in real life,
Speaker 3: like that was going to be found out at some point,
Speaker 3: So better just rip off that band aid and maybe
Speaker 3: they can, you know, yeah, resume, you know, maybe they
Speaker 3: will have be able to.
Speaker 2: Get past it. That's right, the two girls.
Speaker 1: And Connor is just such a.
Speaker 2: And Connor has has missed the first week of college
Speaker 2: because I was just having fun with summer.
Speaker 1: Oh boy, then I feel like I have to fix it. Buddy,
Speaker 1: You're not the one who's gonna fix all that anyway.
Speaker 1: And then ah, we were so hopeful that Seawn's dad
Speaker 1: would be cool and would not do exactly what he
Speaker 1: did he did, which was, oh, come on, buddy, ye
Speaker 1: give us one for the parents. You know, don't do that.
Speaker 1: So he took Sean finally opened up to him, and
Speaker 1: the father took it in the worst possible way, and
Speaker 1: Sean then went and got himself beat up. So I
Speaker 1: thought I would really have liked to have been over this. Yeah,
Speaker 1: come on, you could have been a good dude. You
Speaker 1: could have said sorry, I let you down. Oh dear.
Speaker 1: It is hard, though, as a parent to acknowledge that
Speaker 1: something that you did could have caused the problem, right,
Speaker 1: or caused any I mean, yeah, yes, see, I'm sort
Speaker 1: of the opposite is I'm running around take credit for everything,
Speaker 1: and my daughter is like it that now, it wasn't
Speaker 1: your fault. Stop it, stop it. I'm fine, everything's fine.
Speaker 1: I will take I will take his guilty. Sorry, Sean,
Speaker 1: I'm good at.
Speaker 2: Them, and talk to me. I'll get you through it.
Speaker 1: But uh, you know that understood? Still? Oh ouch. Yeah,
Speaker 1: that was painful and hopefully what Sean does in response
Speaker 1: will move things along. But and then we met Gabby's mother,
Speaker 1: who seems like just a whole lot right play but
Speaker 1: played by Verne Watson, who I haven't seen for a while. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I recognize you.
Speaker 3: Yeah, that was It was kind of a fun scene
Speaker 3: when Jimmy came to have dinner with Gabby and Gabby's
Speaker 3: mom and sister and.
Speaker 1: The extremely resentful sister.
Speaker 3: Yeah, and then they had a moment of you know,
Speaker 3: we can all gang up on Jimmy right now because
Speaker 3: because he said something absolutely true but not nice about
Speaker 3: their neighbor.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it was fun.
Speaker 1: Yeah, he's good for that, He's he'll stand in for
Speaker 1: that right anytime. But I just as I assume that
Speaker 1: Summer and Alice will make up it sometime soon. Can
Speaker 1: we get over the Gabby Jimmy things. I want everybody
Speaker 1: back to being friends. And it stinks that Liz lost
Speaker 1: her friend because of that, and not lost her, but
Speaker 1: sort of misplaced her for a while.
Speaker 3: And you know, okay, Oh, we also had the honesty
Speaker 3: of Liz just yelling all of Jimmy's fault from her
Speaker 3: from her balcony. That was.
Speaker 1: I think it is a mirror of a scene from
Speaker 1: last season right where he did the same thing he
Speaker 1: yelled at her.
Speaker 3: That was.
Speaker 2: That was satisfying. I thought it was. But Alice was listening.
Speaker 1: Yeah, well she knews. She knows she leaped up, So
Speaker 1: why she hasn't said to anybody the thing that precipitated
Speaker 1: her doing it, which I think would work as an
Speaker 1: excuse pretty neatly. I think even Summer would buy that,
Speaker 1: but you know, I guess she doesn't want to get
Speaker 1: into that. But she and her dad bond over tattoos,
Speaker 1: So I.
Speaker 2: Was good even though it's Liz's Ideatoos do I have
Speaker 2: any tattoos?
Speaker 1: I do not? Yes, I do not, Nor do I
Speaker 1: Nor would that looked and sounded upsetting? Yeah, just saying
Speaker 1: I think I would be in Jimmy's camp. I mean,
Speaker 1: good on him for doing it for his daughter, But
Speaker 1: I am so glad my kids are run into it
Speaker 1: and therefore will not ask me to do it too. No,
Speaker 1: thank you.
Speaker 2: Yeah, both of both of my kids say they're going
Speaker 2: to and they have and oh they have not yet,
Speaker 2: they have not.
Speaker 3: My daughter has like an idea of what she wants,
Speaker 3: and it would be a tiny one like.
Speaker 2: Like Liz and Alice have, but she hasn't gone through it.
Speaker 1: Yeah, you walk into the place and hear that, Yeah,
Speaker 1: that sounds like maybe I'll then think about this a
Speaker 1: little more. Get this design just for.
Speaker 2: Right exactly these these two letters.
Speaker 3: And I mean that was like the most basic, tiniest
Speaker 3: little yeah thing, And still Jimmy was losing his mind,
Speaker 3: like think of like.
Speaker 1: People who get their entire back or whatever. My gosh,
Speaker 1: I cannot imagine. And I know people, Oh, I know
Speaker 1: one person in particular who has quite a lot of
Speaker 1: ink on the back and arms, yeah, not on, thank you.
Speaker 1: I don't even want to get shots. I'm not gonna
Speaker 1: get a dance.
Speaker 2: Yeah, but yeah, you get shots in your eye?
Speaker 1: I do, Yes, that's true. I do. That is pretty badass.
Speaker 2: It is.
Speaker 1: Needles in my arm. No no, no, no, no sticking
Speaker 1: sticking in my eyeball.
Speaker 2: I'm good with that.
Speaker 1: That's like the mom in the show is going, they
Speaker 1: got my eyeball open, right, I want them in there. Well,
Speaker 1: I don't know. My daughter when she was young, when
Speaker 1: we first adopted her, had crossed eyes, and so they
Speaker 1: had to do surgery, which, as I understand it basically
Speaker 1: involved them popping the eyeball out, what, fixing something behind it,
Speaker 1: and popping the eyeball back. At least that's how I
Speaker 1: described it to her. Yeah, whoa, It's just they had
Speaker 1: to like untangle the nerves behind the eyeballs or something
Speaker 1: like that, or the muscles or the tendons or something
Speaker 1: got crossed and so they had to uncross it. My
Speaker 1: understanding is it involved.
Speaker 2: Wow, did not know that?
Speaker 1: Yeah? Cutting open? Actually that sounds so yead. I tell
Speaker 1: her that every now and then to freak about it. Wow,
Speaker 1: because she doesn't remember it.
Speaker 2: Well.
Speaker 1: Yeah, speaking of things. I don't remember. Did we hate
Speaker 1: Dave last season? I don't think we hated Dave last season,
Speaker 1: so we hate him this season. Dave is a Meg's husband,
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, my cardboard suddenly.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I feel like he was just kind of a
Speaker 3: non like.
Speaker 1: They didn't.
Speaker 3: They didn't use it as a you know, bonding, a
Speaker 3: way for him to for Paul and his ex to be.
Speaker 2: Like, yeah, we hate that guy.
Speaker 3: I mean, I don't think they hate him.
Speaker 1: I just think they.
Speaker 2: Think he's just kind of a drip.
Speaker 1: They didn't. Yeah, I guess I don't even think we.
Speaker 1: I felt like there was general goodwill towards him last season. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I mean he had to like run the block when
Speaker 1: they didn't want to talk to him. But I didn't
Speaker 1: feel like we thought he was a cardboard trip. Yeah,
Speaker 1: but this one boy, they're sure he's taking a turn,
Speaker 1: no flask for you, But no, that wasn't.
Speaker 2: I mean, I get why they did that, obviously.
Speaker 3: You know, there was a callback to what Paul and
Speaker 3: his ex used to do when their daughter was little,
Speaker 3: But like drinking at a school play whenever a kid
Speaker 3: picks his nose is very different from your daughter giving
Speaker 3: like a very professional.
Speaker 1: You know, true sounded pretty boring.
Speaker 2: I know it did sound boring, but.
Speaker 1: Yeah, they were discreet. Yeah, he's a little tiny book
Speaker 1: and Dave probably wouldn't have appreciated them drinking while as well.
Speaker 2: Right, exactly, That's why they had to keep him out
Speaker 2: of it.
Speaker 1: Oh, we did find out last week. We were wondering
Speaker 1: if the dad quit his job to take on the
Speaker 1: food truck, but apparently he still has his full time
Speaker 1: job anti cashal is savings. And I think the next
Speaker 1: thing to happen should be that they go back to
Speaker 1: Lizen and she reinvests in the food truck and gives
Speaker 1: her something to do. That would be good. Let's do that.
Speaker 3: Yeah, after Sean gets out of the hospital from being
Speaker 3: by these yeahs.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I yeah, I wish that had not happened. There's
Speaker 1: a lot which had not happened. Waves Josh Hopkins on
Speaker 1: the street walk on by, say to Jimmy, Oh yeah,
Speaker 1: that jerk. No, I don't like seeing Derek.
Speaker 2: I know our Derek. It's not right special Derek.
Speaker 1: Yes, this is not why I wanted him in the
Speaker 1: opening credits. I wanted more happy, fun guy. I want
Speaker 1: to believe that he's there to tolerate absolutely anything she does.
Speaker 3: And also in the fun last season, they always had
Speaker 3: a rescue pet, and this season they haven't had one.
Speaker 1: Well, now she's taking pictures of the dogs.
Speaker 2: She is in vain clearly.
Speaker 1: Yeah, And it seems like they were setting up with
Speaker 1: Josh Hopkins that she's like, you know, feeling unappreciated and
Speaker 1: you know, her kids are grown. What has she done
Speaker 1: with herself? She's just raised kids and she's you know,
Speaker 1: doesn't do much and he calls out her photography. Right,
Speaker 1: It's like Derek supports everything she does to a ridiculous degree.
Speaker 1: Keep like bought her a food truck, you know, done,
Speaker 1: don't go down this. I see where you're going show,
Speaker 1: I see I see where you're going. Don't go there, please.
Speaker 2: Well, I guess we'll have to just keep going and
Speaker 2: see what happens next. Yes, yes, So next week it's
Speaker 2: episode six, which I believe is the halfway point. Yeah,
Speaker 2: it's called in a Lonely Place.
Speaker 1: Oh, I don't want to watch that episode. I I
Speaker 1: this is my hangout friend hangout Calle. I don't want
Speaker 1: to be in a lonely place. I want to be
Speaker 1: a place with a bunch of friends. Yeah, drinking and
Speaker 1: laughing and making fun of each other. Come on, well,
Speaker 1: lonely place sounds all maybe just to keep come on show.
Speaker 2: Yeah, bring us back to the.
Speaker 1: Don't be a bummer. We didn't even have the drunk
Speaker 1: driver in this one and it was still a bummer.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 3: Well, we'll talk about that next week, and we will.
Speaker 2: We will see you back here tomorrow for our weekly
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