WEBVTT 1 00:00:00.200 --> 00:00:03.240 All right, we're live in Smith ninth and ninth, eight 2 00:00:03.319 --> 00:00:06.960 seventy six East, eight hundred South. We have tailgate passes 3 00:00:07.599 --> 00:00:10.039 for our ultimate tailgate prior to Utah Yu. It's a 4 00:00:10.039 --> 00:00:12.759 good time, man. We have craft cocktails from Clearwater to Stilling. 5 00:00:12.880 --> 00:00:15.599 We have free food from Wingers. Now we have a 6 00:00:15.679 --> 00:00:20.120 Corona backpack cooler to give away, So roll in. Give 7 00:00:20.160 --> 00:00:22.559 Cynthia your name after she's done with her grocery store, 8 00:00:22.559 --> 00:00:25.640 sushe nobody's judging, and we're gonna give this away prior 9 00:00:25.679 --> 00:00:28.719 to six o'clock tonight here at Smith's eight seventy six East, 10 00:00:28.760 --> 00:00:29.600 eight hundred South. 11 00:00:29.600 --> 00:00:32.359 We're back by the Delhi. All right, we're gonna bring 12 00:00:32.439 --> 00:00:33.079 in Howard Beck. 13 00:00:33.159 --> 00:00:35.399 We have Chris Comroannie, we have Aaron fulk We're gonna 14 00:00:35.399 --> 00:00:38.560 interview Coach Witt. Started the week off with Kilanie. We'll 15 00:00:38.600 --> 00:00:41.320 finish the week off with Kyle. But we'll start the 16 00:00:41.320 --> 00:00:43.000 show off today with a good front of the show. 17 00:00:43.039 --> 00:00:45.640 Although it's been quite some time in former Utah safety 18 00:00:45.759 --> 00:00:48.439 Steve Taate back on the drive on a Friday. 19 00:00:48.439 --> 00:00:51.280 Steve, Happy Friday, man, how you been spent? 20 00:00:51.399 --> 00:00:53.719 I'm doing well man? How you been I'm good? 21 00:00:53.799 --> 00:00:54.359 Man? I'm good. 22 00:00:54.399 --> 00:00:57.399 This is obviously a really, really fun week. And you know, 23 00:00:57.520 --> 00:00:59.880 somebody who is an in state kid and played in 24 00:00:59.880 --> 00:01:03.320 the game. I wonder what sort of emotions, energy, et 25 00:01:03.399 --> 00:01:06.439 cetera roll through the body and mind of Steve Tate 26 00:01:06.519 --> 00:01:07.560 during rivalry week. 27 00:01:09.560 --> 00:01:11.879 Yeah. Man, it's crazy how much it's morphed over the 28 00:01:11.959 --> 00:01:14.159 years when you look at you know, you look at 29 00:01:14.400 --> 00:01:18.200 YEU and all the coaches over there who at one 30 00:01:18.200 --> 00:01:22.120 point were my coaches. So it's unique now, you know, 31 00:01:22.200 --> 00:01:25.079 kind of looking at this game. And I talked to guys. 32 00:01:25.159 --> 00:01:28.359 I talked to coach Anderson, who's now defensive analyst down 33 00:01:28.480 --> 00:01:32.359 by U. I talked to him almost a couple times 34 00:01:32.359 --> 00:01:34.120 a month at least. We check in with each other. 35 00:01:34.200 --> 00:01:39.640 So the familiarity takes the next level now in this game. 36 00:01:39.719 --> 00:01:42.640 And believe it or not, coach Anderson has taken He's 37 00:01:42.719 --> 00:01:45.200 taken a big role in that staff since j Hills 38 00:01:45.920 --> 00:01:49.719 and been battling the health issues. So I'm gonna it's 39 00:01:49.760 --> 00:01:51.480 gonna be fun to watch these two go at it, 40 00:01:51.480 --> 00:01:54.359 because I think this is probably an all time peak 41 00:01:54.359 --> 00:01:56.719 of how familiar to these two programs are with each other. 42 00:01:57.599 --> 00:02:00.519 Do you have any whether it's on few other off 43 00:02:00.560 --> 00:02:05.400 field specific b y u Utah memories that stand out. 44 00:02:05.439 --> 00:02:08.319 I don't want to pigeonhole you into one, but any 45 00:02:08.400 --> 00:02:10.759 any specific snapshot memories that stand out to. 46 00:02:10.759 --> 00:02:15.319 You, you know, I think the feel good one. I'll 47 00:02:15.319 --> 00:02:17.280 give you a feel good one off the field is, 48 00:02:17.319 --> 00:02:20.800 you know, after Reno and I lost our two kids 49 00:02:21.400 --> 00:02:22.919 when they played, and I believe it was a Bowl 50 00:02:22.919 --> 00:02:25.879 game right afterwards. I think that was obviously something special 51 00:02:25.919 --> 00:02:29.159 both both Reno and I kind of they they honored 52 00:02:30.080 --> 00:02:32.199 our two kids that we lost, so that that was unique, 53 00:02:32.199 --> 00:02:34.439 that brought some feel good story to the rivalry. And 54 00:02:34.479 --> 00:02:37.560 then you know, I grew up watching this, so I 55 00:02:37.560 --> 00:02:40.120 can go back to, you know, the the days of 56 00:02:40.199 --> 00:02:43.680 kind of Shiro and and those were fun games thirty 57 00:02:43.680 --> 00:02:45.280 four to thirty one. I mean, you know I can 58 00:02:45.319 --> 00:02:48.159 go back. I mean it's like an archive in this brain. 59 00:02:48.319 --> 00:02:50.080 But you know one that I love that I that 60 00:02:50.120 --> 00:02:52.599 I played in that's kind of similar to what UTA's 61 00:02:52.599 --> 00:02:56.080 facing right now is we went down to BYU. I 62 00:02:56.080 --> 00:02:58.199 think we're I know, we were double digit underdogs. I 63 00:02:58.280 --> 00:03:01.360 think it was seventeen points and we had Ratliff who 64 00:03:01.879 --> 00:03:04.360 just lost the previous game to New Mexico and and 65 00:03:04.439 --> 00:03:06.840 Brian towards a c O, Brian Joston towards a feel 66 00:03:06.840 --> 00:03:09.479 and Ratless came in and you know, ultimately didn't win 67 00:03:09.520 --> 00:03:11.759 that that that New Mexico game, but we had to 68 00:03:11.800 --> 00:03:14.759 fight in order to get Bull eligible. We were playing 69 00:03:14.759 --> 00:03:17.560 at Uyu. It kind of a you know, a last 70 00:03:17.879 --> 00:03:20.960 ditch effort to get Bull eligible, and you know, we 71 00:03:21.000 --> 00:03:22.719 threw it. We threw a bunch at him. You know, 72 00:03:22.800 --> 00:03:25.199 Coach Anderson on defense, we threw out a kind of 73 00:03:25.199 --> 00:03:27.479 what they call the circus defense. I mean, he threw 74 00:03:27.520 --> 00:03:29.120 everything at him. It was one of those where we 75 00:03:29.199 --> 00:03:31.599 are backs against the wall and you know, the whole 76 00:03:31.639 --> 00:03:33.919 week we had nothing to lose. And so that's what's 77 00:03:34.000 --> 00:03:36.759 unique right now when in this game, it's kind of 78 00:03:37.240 --> 00:03:40.080 you to find themselves in that same spot that we 79 00:03:40.120 --> 00:03:42.560 found ourselves in two thousand and five, just fighting for 80 00:03:42.599 --> 00:03:42.919 a win. 81 00:03:43.199 --> 00:03:43.479 Uh. 82 00:03:43.879 --> 00:03:46.319 You know, I think if they if they don't win this, 83 00:03:46.360 --> 00:03:48.240 it'll be hard to get Bull eligible based on the 84 00:03:48.280 --> 00:03:51.120 record and the schedule they have ahead of them. So uh, 85 00:03:51.159 --> 00:03:53.719 you know, yeah, back to backs against the wall right now. 86 00:03:54.479 --> 00:03:58.360 You're kind of a unique case study this week, Steve, 87 00:03:58.560 --> 00:04:03.439 because you played for coach Anderson. You played for Kilane, Uh, 88 00:04:03.479 --> 00:04:05.560 but you also played at the University of Utah. 89 00:04:05.960 --> 00:04:06.400 Uh. 90 00:04:06.680 --> 00:04:08.360 I'm I'm a poke a little bit. I'm gona dig 91 00:04:08.400 --> 00:04:12.800 a little bit here. Okay, where's the uh, where's the head? 92 00:04:12.840 --> 00:04:14.759 And where's the heart? Saturday night? 93 00:04:14.759 --> 00:04:17.800 What? What? What do you want to see happen? Yeah? 94 00:04:18.199 --> 00:04:20.839 Obviously you know I grew up a Utah fan. That's 95 00:04:20.920 --> 00:04:23.319 those those are our roots. So you know, you never 96 00:04:23.399 --> 00:04:26.560 leave your roots. That's that's where I came from. But uh, 97 00:04:26.920 --> 00:04:29.639 you know it's it's again having gone through it. I 98 00:04:29.680 --> 00:04:31.759 grew up in it, and then it kind of morphed 99 00:04:31.800 --> 00:04:36.079 into life after football and and relationships that I have 100 00:04:36.240 --> 00:04:39.560 over there, and relationships of course that I continue to 101 00:04:39.560 --> 00:04:43.199 have it the you The good part about this, Bence 102 00:04:43.439 --> 00:04:46.720 is is I can watch a game uh and be 103 00:04:46.920 --> 00:04:51.360 completely emotionless. It's it's unique having played in it. You know, 104 00:04:51.399 --> 00:04:54.839 I've I've I've you know, sweat, I've had I've spent 105 00:04:54.920 --> 00:04:57.519 the blood in the sweat and in these games, and 106 00:04:57.560 --> 00:05:00.399 so it's nice to not be a fan, just to 107 00:05:00.439 --> 00:05:04.079 sit back and watch it and admire you two great 108 00:05:04.079 --> 00:05:07.560 coaching staff and not get emotionally attached to it. I know, 109 00:05:07.639 --> 00:05:10.959 It sounds weird because it is such a game of emotions, 110 00:05:11.240 --> 00:05:14.319 but it's something I guess I deserve after being so 111 00:05:14.439 --> 00:05:16.639 emotional for so long in this, in this, and then 112 00:05:16.680 --> 00:05:19.240 having played in it for once. Now I'm the old 113 00:05:19.279 --> 00:05:22.639 man sits back on the couch and just watches you. 114 00:05:22.519 --> 00:05:23.759 Just hit it on the head at the end. 115 00:05:23.800 --> 00:05:25.759 This is a sign that you're getting old, young man, 116 00:05:25.879 --> 00:05:28.399 this is a sign that you're growing up. And look, 117 00:05:28.439 --> 00:05:30.519 it's all good because I actually talk about this all 118 00:05:30.560 --> 00:05:33.120 the time. Sports are the very definition of a zero 119 00:05:33.199 --> 00:05:35.720 sum game. And sorry about the parlay, but if you 120 00:05:35.720 --> 00:05:38.959 have a gambling problem, you know, it doesn't it doesn't. 121 00:05:38.680 --> 00:05:39.920 Mean you can act stupid. 122 00:05:40.399 --> 00:05:44.160 And you know, obviously everybody wants their team to win. 123 00:05:44.680 --> 00:05:48.240 And it's been an interesting evolution for me as well, Steve, 124 00:05:48.319 --> 00:05:50.959 because look, you get into this business, you have to 125 00:05:50.959 --> 00:05:53.319 be a little bit agnostic or you lose your credibility. 126 00:05:53.360 --> 00:05:56.120 Like I cannot listen to your leaders, I cannot listen 127 00:05:56.160 --> 00:06:00.160 to propagandists, I cannot listen to homers because there's nothing there. 128 00:06:00.000 --> 00:06:01.439 They're not authentic. 129 00:06:01.480 --> 00:06:03.199 And so you get into this and if you want 130 00:06:03.199 --> 00:06:05.040 to do it the right way, you have to be truthful, 131 00:06:05.439 --> 00:06:07.480 so you become a little bit agnostic. But the other 132 00:06:07.560 --> 00:06:10.360 thing I do not miss And for me, growing up 133 00:06:10.439 --> 00:06:13.240 in professional sports where the outcome of a game directly 134 00:06:13.240 --> 00:06:15.480 affected whether or not my father would stay employed every 135 00:06:15.560 --> 00:06:19.399 night felt like life or death, right, And now that 136 00:06:19.439 --> 00:06:21.720 he's out of the game, and now that I'm doing this, 137 00:06:22.199 --> 00:06:25.120 really I am void of emotion with most I want 138 00:06:25.120 --> 00:06:27.319 my Yankees to win, Like if the Knicks ever go 139 00:06:27.399 --> 00:06:29.240 deep in the playoffs, I'd love to see the Jazz 140 00:06:29.240 --> 00:06:32.079 do something special. But call me in seven years, you know, 141 00:06:32.240 --> 00:06:35.839 so like ultimately, like you, I just kind of hope 142 00:06:35.839 --> 00:06:38.480 for a good game. But the interesting thing I think 143 00:06:38.720 --> 00:06:40.480 from and I'm not I don't want to speak. 144 00:06:40.279 --> 00:06:43.839 For you, but there's actually more. 145 00:06:43.720 --> 00:06:46.920 On the line for Kilanie and Gary and Jay and 146 00:06:47.000 --> 00:06:47.879 a Rod. 147 00:06:48.079 --> 00:06:51.759 Like if b you know, BYU with the win puts 148 00:06:51.800 --> 00:06:54.680 themselves on a path for something really special that nobody 149 00:06:54.759 --> 00:06:57.160 saw coming. And on the other side of it, like 150 00:06:57.759 --> 00:06:59.800 if your Utah you get a win, and of course 151 00:06:59.839 --> 00:07:01.800 that it's good against your rival, you show in front 152 00:07:01.800 --> 00:07:04.759 of the community, it's good for instate recruiting, but what 153 00:07:04.800 --> 00:07:07.199 does it really do. So that's why I was curious 154 00:07:07.240 --> 00:07:10.759 about where your your heart was here because as a 155 00:07:10.759 --> 00:07:13.399 guy that played for Klonnie and Gary and all those guys, 156 00:07:14.000 --> 00:07:16.800 I just wondered if you wouldn't mind seeing them get 157 00:07:16.800 --> 00:07:18.959 the win so they can continue to march on towards 158 00:07:18.959 --> 00:07:20.920 something that would be historic for them, you know, if 159 00:07:20.959 --> 00:07:21.560 that makes sense. 160 00:07:22.240 --> 00:07:24.759 Yeah, no, that makes sense. I mean it's it's interesting having, 161 00:07:25.519 --> 00:07:27.000 you know, now in this phase where I have a 162 00:07:27.040 --> 00:07:29.399 son that plays, and so when I go to his games, 163 00:07:29.560 --> 00:07:32.959 you know, it means it means more. Of course, you're invested, 164 00:07:33.399 --> 00:07:36.720 You've got emotional connection. It's it's your your kid's future, 165 00:07:36.759 --> 00:07:40.160 and and and so that's why I can now sit 166 00:07:40.279 --> 00:07:43.639 back and just observe and and and root for you know, uh, 167 00:07:44.160 --> 00:07:46.279 really for for a good story that comes out of it. 168 00:07:46.360 --> 00:07:48.560 And you know, those guys have worked hard. J Hill 169 00:07:48.600 --> 00:07:50.920 has gotten you know, he's worked hard to get where 170 00:07:50.920 --> 00:07:53.360 he's at. He went to Rever State. Now he's you know, 171 00:07:53.519 --> 00:07:56.000 changed that program over at BYU. I think they've really 172 00:07:56.000 --> 00:07:59.279 turned the corner with Jay Hill and coach Anderson. I 173 00:07:59.279 --> 00:08:02.600 think those two puzzle pieces were a big reason why 174 00:08:02.600 --> 00:08:04.439 they are where they are right now and having a 175 00:08:04.519 --> 00:08:09.079 chance to potentially get into college football playoffs. And you know, 176 00:08:09.199 --> 00:08:11.519 good for them and Klonnie. You know, they've worked hard 177 00:08:11.600 --> 00:08:15.240 for it. They've put together great staff, recruited well and yeah, 178 00:08:15.560 --> 00:08:18.600 and so you're right, Spence, It's it's odd enough to 179 00:08:18.600 --> 00:08:21.199 be agnostic right now, but it is what it is. 180 00:08:21.199 --> 00:08:22.160 It's kind of where I'm at. 181 00:08:23.160 --> 00:08:25.720 So I want to take advantage of the fact that 182 00:08:25.800 --> 00:08:28.360 you were a safety and you played defense and no 183 00:08:28.560 --> 00:08:32.360 Jay and no Gary. Because the interesting thing Steve about 184 00:08:32.480 --> 00:08:35.679 BYU's defense. There are some portal additions like the Jack 185 00:08:35.759 --> 00:08:37.960 Kelly kid, and he's awesome, he's there, he leads them 186 00:08:37.960 --> 00:08:40.919 in sacks with four. But it was a lot of like, hey, 187 00:08:41.000 --> 00:08:44.399 let's just run it back and develop internally from within. 188 00:08:44.279 --> 00:08:45.519 And see what Jay can do here. 189 00:08:45.559 --> 00:08:47.440 Two and now that Gary's been brought in as well, 190 00:08:47.879 --> 00:08:49.879 tell us about this system since you played in it, 191 00:08:49.960 --> 00:08:53.279 and what stands out about how improved BYU is defensively. 192 00:08:54.320 --> 00:08:56.519 Yeah, No, that's a great question. I've talked to coach 193 00:08:56.559 --> 00:08:59.240 Anderson about it. No longer. It was probably a couple 194 00:08:59.240 --> 00:09:01.120 of weeks ago. We were talking and then you know, 195 00:09:01.200 --> 00:09:03.919 I asked him, you know what, what's what's gone on? 196 00:09:03.960 --> 00:09:06.840 What have you done differently? Because it really this year, 197 00:09:07.080 --> 00:09:09.240 you know, he turned the page. And if you know, 198 00:09:09.279 --> 00:09:11.559 coach Anderson, the guy gets the most out of his players. 199 00:09:11.559 --> 00:09:13.840 He's passionate, but you know he's just he's like a 200 00:09:13.840 --> 00:09:16.159 father figure to to all the players out there on 201 00:09:16.200 --> 00:09:19.399 the field. And you know what what he said is 202 00:09:19.519 --> 00:09:20.879 really no different than what we had it when I 203 00:09:20.919 --> 00:09:23.000 was at Utah. He says, you know, we go out 204 00:09:23.039 --> 00:09:25.080 and get guys that love football. We want guys that 205 00:09:25.200 --> 00:09:27.679 love the game of football. He's like, they might not 206 00:09:27.759 --> 00:09:30.480 be the most have recruited guys, but they fit the 207 00:09:30.559 --> 00:09:34.639 system and it's everyone knows their role. And I think 208 00:09:34.679 --> 00:09:36.759 that's what's really unique and Utah has it as well 209 00:09:36.759 --> 00:09:39.559 on the defensive side. Is it's a system that you 210 00:09:39.639 --> 00:09:41.679 can roll in and once you get the guys there 211 00:09:41.759 --> 00:09:45.240 and you establish that system, every year you're just kind 212 00:09:45.279 --> 00:09:47.960 of building into that and it's not a rebuild, uh 213 00:09:48.039 --> 00:09:50.600 over and over again. And I think that's that's honestly 214 00:09:50.879 --> 00:09:52.559 when you look at it. They've they've got you know, 215 00:09:52.600 --> 00:09:56.120 Jack Kelly is a great addition, of course, as you mentioned, uh, 216 00:09:56.200 --> 00:09:59.320 but they just do a great job of bringing pressure 217 00:09:59.440 --> 00:10:00.720 like Utah always did when. 218 00:10:00.559 --> 00:10:00.919 I was there. 219 00:10:00.960 --> 00:10:02.919 They play Manda man, they haven't been able to do 220 00:10:02.960 --> 00:10:05.120 that a lot. You know, Klanne got there and they 221 00:10:05.120 --> 00:10:07.200 weren't able to play Manda Man at all. You know, 222 00:10:07.320 --> 00:10:12.399 under under Bronco, they were primarily the zone defense that 223 00:10:12.600 --> 00:10:16.360 was soft in the secondary, and that's it now entirely changed. 224 00:10:16.399 --> 00:10:18.519 So they're able to take a lot of risks now 225 00:10:18.519 --> 00:10:20.759 because they trust their guys on the back end. So 226 00:10:20.799 --> 00:10:22.480 you're gonna want You're gonna see j Hill, I mean 227 00:10:22.559 --> 00:10:24.960 J Hill and and coaj Well, they they're gonna they're 228 00:10:24.960 --> 00:10:27.639 gonna bring pressure. They'll bring pressure. They trust their guys 229 00:10:27.639 --> 00:10:29.759 now in the back end. They've got good corners, they 230 00:10:29.799 --> 00:10:32.559 have good safeties that can play uh and and they've 231 00:10:32.559 --> 00:10:35.919 got speed at at with jack and linebacker position bringing 232 00:10:35.960 --> 00:10:39.039 guys off the edge. So I expect a lot of that, 233 00:10:39.279 --> 00:10:43.519 especially with you know Utah now with two freshman quarterbacks 234 00:10:43.519 --> 00:10:44.600 possibly playing in this game. 235 00:10:45.600 --> 00:10:47.240 So on the other side, let's move over to the 236 00:10:47.279 --> 00:10:51.919 Utah defense, and you know, they really rate well when 237 00:10:51.919 --> 00:10:54.159 you look at the meat and potatoes and defensive numbers. 238 00:10:54.159 --> 00:10:55.960 But what they don't do, Steve, is they don't get 239 00:10:56.000 --> 00:10:59.039 to the quarterback and they don't first force turnovers. 240 00:10:58.559 --> 00:10:59.399 At least not yet. 241 00:11:00.120 --> 00:11:02.559 Right, So like between the twenties, meat and potatoes. They're 242 00:11:02.559 --> 00:11:04.399 good against the run, they're good against the past. They're 243 00:11:04.480 --> 00:11:07.480 number one overall and scoring defense in the conference, but 244 00:11:07.519 --> 00:11:08.120 they haven't. 245 00:11:07.879 --> 00:11:09.799 Been able to apply a lot of pressure to the QB. 246 00:11:09.919 --> 00:11:12.440 And again they're last in the conference in fumbles forced 247 00:11:12.480 --> 00:11:15.360 and fumble fumble's recovered. From your vantage point, why do 248 00:11:15.360 --> 00:11:17.799 you why do you think Utah struggled in the main 249 00:11:17.879 --> 00:11:19.279 areas where they usually excel. 250 00:11:21.080 --> 00:11:23.559 Yeah, you know, I know coach Winningham has tried to, 251 00:11:23.759 --> 00:11:26.799 you know, find find the reasons for that as well, 252 00:11:26.840 --> 00:11:29.320 but that's been it really has been anomaly this year. 253 00:11:29.360 --> 00:11:32.519 They haven't no get pressure on the quarterback. I know 254 00:11:32.559 --> 00:11:34.919 they've been fighting some injuries, so you know that that's 255 00:11:35.000 --> 00:11:37.320 one thing they're battling with. I don't think they have 256 00:11:37.399 --> 00:11:40.759 the definitely have in the past. I think, you know, 257 00:11:40.799 --> 00:11:43.480 one thing that's unique with Utah a year after year 258 00:11:43.519 --> 00:11:45.399 is that they bring pressure, but they're bringing it from 259 00:11:45.759 --> 00:11:49.559 different position groups and I think, you know, the safety position, 260 00:11:49.600 --> 00:11:52.279 of course, is one They lost their their their guys 261 00:11:52.360 --> 00:11:55.840 last year in the NFL, so I think they do, 262 00:11:56.159 --> 00:11:58.399 although they don't you know, probably looking at their roster 263 00:11:59.240 --> 00:12:01.639 to begin this sea even didn't look like they had, uh, 264 00:12:02.240 --> 00:12:04.840 you know, some some new guys. I just think that 265 00:12:04.960 --> 00:12:07.840 they just have some inexperienced guys that are still cutting 266 00:12:07.879 --> 00:12:11.240 their teeth. But in order to you know, to beat 267 00:12:11.240 --> 00:12:13.559 Buyu tomorrow, they've they've got to be able to put 268 00:12:13.799 --> 00:12:15.960 pressure on the quarterback. I think that's what they're going 269 00:12:16.039 --> 00:12:18.480 to try to do. You know, he's been prone to 270 00:12:18.679 --> 00:12:21.799 make mistakes and and and and cough up some some 271 00:12:21.919 --> 00:12:24.159 balls here and there. So I think that they will, 272 00:12:24.279 --> 00:12:26.600 they'll bring the pressure. They need to find ways to 273 00:12:27.000 --> 00:12:30.320 create that pressure. I think, you know, they had to 274 00:12:30.799 --> 00:12:33.559 Ti had a couple of injuries in their secondary corners position, 275 00:12:33.679 --> 00:12:37.000 so I think, you know, perhaps again not able to 276 00:12:37.000 --> 00:12:39.320 bring that pressure trusting those guys. But you know, this 277 00:12:39.399 --> 00:12:41.759 is one of those games. As as I mentioned prior 278 00:12:41.840 --> 00:12:45.080 that you know this point, you're now, how how many 279 00:12:45.120 --> 00:12:46.879 games that you've you've got to You've got to bring it, 280 00:12:46.879 --> 00:12:48.639 You got to you know, you got to take some risks. 281 00:12:48.840 --> 00:12:50.840 I think I think Scally will do that same thing 282 00:12:51.000 --> 00:12:52.679 with Uyu, and that's why it's going to be fun 283 00:12:52.679 --> 00:12:54.720 to watch. I think Scali will dial it up this game. 284 00:12:55.600 --> 00:12:57.519 So I wanted to get your take on and I've 285 00:12:57.519 --> 00:12:59.960 asked all the former players this this week because we've you. 286 00:13:00.279 --> 00:13:01.720 Always hear these stories. 287 00:13:01.759 --> 00:13:05.320 You always hear these, you know, legendary tales of the 288 00:13:05.320 --> 00:13:10.120 way Kyle coaches this week juxtaposed to the way his 289 00:13:10.159 --> 00:13:12.159 opponent coaches this week. 290 00:13:12.200 --> 00:13:13.000 And you always heard. 291 00:13:13.039 --> 00:13:17.120 And we had Austin Collion on Tuesday, and Austin essentially, 292 00:13:18.279 --> 00:13:22.000 you know, affirmed the legendary stories about bronco Mennenhall just 293 00:13:22.080 --> 00:13:24.840 like not coaching this week any different than he would 294 00:13:24.879 --> 00:13:28.720 coach any other say it's nameless, faceless players, our opponent. 295 00:13:29.000 --> 00:13:31.840 It was never there was never extra added emphasis. Well, 296 00:13:32.000 --> 00:13:34.360 on the other side, it always seems like Kyle sends 297 00:13:34.399 --> 00:13:37.240 the message like we don't lose to them. How does 298 00:13:37.279 --> 00:13:40.480 coach Wit prepare you guys during this week for the 299 00:13:40.519 --> 00:13:41.279 game on Saturday. 300 00:13:41.320 --> 00:13:43.000 From a player's perspective. 301 00:13:44.279 --> 00:13:48.039 Well, you know, I guess it goes back to Urban. 302 00:13:48.159 --> 00:13:49.720 You know, I think Urban really took it to the 303 00:13:49.759 --> 00:13:52.720 next level. Yeah, he educated. I mean we had highlight 304 00:13:52.799 --> 00:13:55.080 films in the locker room that was lacking twenty four 305 00:13:55.120 --> 00:13:57.279 to seven. We memorized that when we were you know, 306 00:13:57.679 --> 00:14:00.240 getting changing and out of it for practice. I mean 307 00:14:00.279 --> 00:14:03.279 there there was this low this this highlight reel just 308 00:14:03.440 --> 00:14:06.480 playing on uh endlessly in the locker room. 309 00:14:06.720 --> 00:14:07.039 Uh. 310 00:14:07.159 --> 00:14:09.679 You know he had the opposed He had b Yu 311 00:14:09.879 --> 00:14:12.720 jerseys when you came in, and like, you know, the 312 00:14:12.759 --> 00:14:17.399 classic uh urinal cakes in the urinals and you know, uh, 313 00:14:17.440 --> 00:14:20.039 he had a way, you know, credit Urban, he had 314 00:14:20.080 --> 00:14:23.679 a way of just creating that emotion and and it's 315 00:14:23.720 --> 00:14:27.240 carried over to the coach Whittingham's there's no urinal cakes 316 00:14:27.240 --> 00:14:28.879 like like we had with Urban. I mean, Urban may 317 00:14:28.879 --> 00:14:31.600 have taken to the next level, but uh, you know 318 00:14:31.840 --> 00:14:35.039 it's you don't. There's no make no mistake. You got 319 00:14:35.080 --> 00:14:37.360 the n State kids know how they you know how 320 00:14:37.360 --> 00:14:40.480 important this game is, and especially now that they're in conference. 321 00:14:41.120 --> 00:14:44.159 You know, for a while there, you had to probably 322 00:14:44.159 --> 00:14:46.360 create a little bit more emotion for this game for 323 00:14:46.440 --> 00:14:48.799 those guys that weren't familiar with the rivalry game. But 324 00:14:48.840 --> 00:14:51.080 now that it's an in conference game, it means even more. 325 00:14:51.600 --> 00:14:53.000 Uh So it's kind of back to where it was 326 00:14:53.039 --> 00:14:55.759 when I played, which is good for the rivalry. But 327 00:14:56.279 --> 00:14:58.240 you know, you can't treat it like any other game. 328 00:14:58.320 --> 00:15:01.279 I mean, the football, the beauty football is. It is 329 00:15:01.320 --> 00:15:03.080 a game of emotion. Now you've got to keep your 330 00:15:03.080 --> 00:15:04.679 emotions in check, and you got to know when to 331 00:15:05.159 --> 00:15:07.720 you know, make sure you don't peak too soon. But 332 00:15:08.440 --> 00:15:11.360 I mean, that's what I's that's how I thrived playing 333 00:15:11.360 --> 00:15:13.960 this game. I was an emotional player. I talked on 334 00:15:14.000 --> 00:15:16.399 the field, you know, I gave it my all. And 335 00:15:16.440 --> 00:15:18.399 I think that's the way the game has to be played. 336 00:15:18.480 --> 00:15:20.879 If not, then you're not the right game. You know, 337 00:15:20.960 --> 00:15:23.720 you can go play baseball and that's the right sport 338 00:15:23.799 --> 00:15:26.600 for you, even basketball pass, but you know, football, that's 339 00:15:26.639 --> 00:15:29.919 what the that's what's beauty. That's what's so beautiful about it. 340 00:15:29.919 --> 00:15:31.399 I mean, it's the beauty of the game is that 341 00:15:31.440 --> 00:15:34.360 it is emotional. And that's why rivalry games means so 342 00:15:34.480 --> 00:15:36.639 much more when it comes to honestly when it comes 343 00:15:36.679 --> 00:15:38.399 to football than in the other sport because it's the 344 00:15:38.440 --> 00:15:40.039 motion that you that you bring to it. 345 00:15:40.759 --> 00:15:43.600 What about Morgan On Morgan's side of things, we all 346 00:15:43.639 --> 00:15:46.679 saw the classic clip on college game Day back in 347 00:15:46.720 --> 00:15:49.840 two thousand and four, and you know, it's funny because 348 00:15:50.200 --> 00:15:52.840 a snapshot moment like that, and certainly from a guy 349 00:15:52.919 --> 00:15:54.759 like Morgan, who really is a sweet guy, you know, 350 00:15:54.879 --> 00:15:59.240 like he just he's a very committed husband, father, all 351 00:15:59.240 --> 00:16:02.679 those things. So uh a comment like that, I hate 352 00:16:02.720 --> 00:16:05.360 those bleeping you know what, hate them with a passion. 353 00:16:05.799 --> 00:16:09.360 It endears Morgan to the youth fans that want to 354 00:16:09.360 --> 00:16:10.480 hear that stuff out loud. 355 00:16:10.519 --> 00:16:12.600 Then it leaves them up. I remember b YU fans like. 356 00:16:12.559 --> 00:16:14.840 Calling for his temple recommend It was like the perfect 357 00:16:14.919 --> 00:16:17.000 holy war thing to say, you know what I mean. 358 00:16:17.480 --> 00:16:20.759 But you know, Morgan and you Safeties are all one big, 359 00:16:21.360 --> 00:16:23.559 one big group. What do you think this this week 360 00:16:23.639 --> 00:16:26.039 is like for Morgan, who, as we know, is going 361 00:16:26.080 --> 00:16:27.480 to take over when Kyle's finished. 362 00:16:28.360 --> 00:16:30.759 Well, that was that was what was great about Urban. 363 00:16:31.159 --> 00:16:31.360 Uh. 364 00:16:31.399 --> 00:16:33.679 You know that that clip is right before the Fiesta Bowl, 365 00:16:34.039 --> 00:16:36.039 right before the Festal Bid and and we had to 366 00:16:36.039 --> 00:16:39.039 be by you in order to really fulfill that uh 367 00:16:39.200 --> 00:16:42.919 that that dream that we had to start that or 368 00:16:42.960 --> 00:16:44.679 to end that season of going to BCS. And so 369 00:16:45.000 --> 00:16:47.080 that's that's exactly what Urban did. You know, Urban was 370 00:16:47.080 --> 00:16:49.080 smart and he got the in state kid, the guy 371 00:16:49.120 --> 00:16:51.279 that grew up in this rivalry and and you know 372 00:16:51.360 --> 00:16:53.960 that just happened to be ESPN at the time when 373 00:16:53.960 --> 00:16:56.559 Morgan was in front of all the cameras and and 374 00:16:56.399 --> 00:16:59.000 uh and made for some some great rivalry smack talk, 375 00:16:59.159 --> 00:17:02.120 but uh, you know, in state kids make it and 376 00:17:02.120 --> 00:17:04.680 and and you got in state kids on both sides. 377 00:17:04.680 --> 00:17:07.119 And that's what I really like about this rivalry because 378 00:17:07.119 --> 00:17:09.599 it means more for those in state kids. And you 379 00:17:09.640 --> 00:17:12.720 know especially, I've always said it like when you go 380 00:17:12.720 --> 00:17:14.720 on a beau. I was part of some of those 381 00:17:14.839 --> 00:17:19.720 those losing skids with with coach Whittingham as he took 382 00:17:19.720 --> 00:17:21.559 over for Urban, and we had a couple of years 383 00:17:21.559 --> 00:17:24.240 where we had back to back or maybe even three 384 00:17:24.279 --> 00:17:27.920 losses in a row. And what I do believe wholeheartedly 385 00:17:28.000 --> 00:17:29.440 is that when you when you when you go on 386 00:17:29.480 --> 00:17:31.799 those losing skids, it's it's really the in state kids 387 00:17:31.799 --> 00:17:35.440 that are fighting, right those guys, because they're more invested, 388 00:17:35.480 --> 00:17:37.759 they've got everything to lose. They're still going out there 389 00:17:37.799 --> 00:17:40.119 even though they're they might have a losing record or 390 00:17:40.839 --> 00:17:43.559 they have they still aren't fighting for their friends, their families, 391 00:17:43.559 --> 00:17:45.799 something that they love, their passionate about. They grew up 392 00:17:45.839 --> 00:17:48.599 watching the team that they play for now, so they 393 00:17:48.880 --> 00:17:50.920 tend to fight a little bit more. And when it 394 00:17:50.920 --> 00:17:53.279 comes to this rivalry, the in state kids, they just 395 00:17:53.680 --> 00:17:55.880 it's in bread, it's just in their system. They just 396 00:17:55.920 --> 00:17:58.240 have grown up in this and so you know, you 397 00:17:58.440 --> 00:18:00.759 you rely on those guys pay of the team all 398 00:18:00.759 --> 00:18:02.839 week to really get them emotionally ready for the game. 399 00:18:04.240 --> 00:18:04.480 Yeah. 400 00:18:04.519 --> 00:18:09.119 Interesting, you brought that up, because there are nine excuse me, no, 401 00:18:09.160 --> 00:18:11.759