Speaker 1: We can see that that's all a cloak to not
debate the real issues. And we can also point out
that the atheists and agnostics, they're actually more honorable than
a lot of these so called religious people. Matt Delahunty
has behaved way better than these clown so evangelicals who
want to try to tone police, and they just are
the perfect archetype. They're the low gie of Vox's gamma mill.
So we all know that what this really is about
is that they don't want to debate because they'll lose.
Now other people not talking about the other people from
last week, we're talking about this week's nonsense. So every
week there's a new nonsense. It doesn't matter. All I
have to do is keep putting out the content and
if you build it, they will come. Because we're not
relying on ego. Now people think, oh, he just wants
to win debates. How do you think I evolved in
my religious perspectives, philosophic perspective, geopolitical perspectives. If I just
wanted to be right and save my ego. I've been
wrong many times and that's why I've changed my positions.
And the same people who will say, look, how many
times he changed his position. Well, then turn around and
say all he cares about is being right in debate.
He doesn't want to be wrong. Now, those two things
don't make sense. All I cared about was being right.
I never would have changed my positions. I just would
have stayed of what Calvinist. And by the way, I
don't count going from Baptist to Calvinists as a change
in positions, just Protestantism. Who cares all the protient world
is pretty much the same anyway, in the conservative evangelical realm,
the not the women bishop realm. So and ten years ago,
I didn't join Orthodox Church. I got really close to joining.
I went through the catechumen at ten years ago, but
I didn't actually join. I would debate and argue those
positions online. We got people in the discord. There's one
hundred and six hundred people in the discord. Many of
them are inquiring into Orthodoxy. If they decide not to
become Orthodox, unfortunately, does that mean that they changed their
religious position Now they inquired, they debated, hashed it out.
So what That's part of the modern world is flooded
with information. We live in a society with a zillion
cults everywhere. It's only natural that people are going to
if they have the impathus, question their upbringing, question their presuppositions,
question their worldview, and seek out the different arguments and positions.
If they so choose. They may not choose to. They
may choose to say I just want to I grew
up Baptist, I'm gonna be a Baptist. A lot of
people do. That's their decision. So definitely watch Vox's video
Gamma male behavior because as I've watched the crazy set
of a concious cult, and I've watched the other cult
people and the fake Orthodox people who are super soy
gamma males, the consistent pattern isn't the ideas and the ideology.
The consistent pattern is the gamma male behavior. Because here's
the secret. As I said and the other live stream,
the secret to winning all debates is the desire to
lose the debate. And I mean that with all sincerity.
Now you may think, oh, he's just saying that as
a propaganda. No, No, I legitimately mean the secret through winning
a debate is the desire to lose the debate. Because
I'll go ahead and say this right now I'm going
to debate Ryan. Me and Dawson will have a debate
first week of December, and I told him, I said,
I'm not worried about losing a debate. I don't believe
that I will lose a debate, especially on the topic
of atheism materialism, because I have debated that topic for
twenty years. I probably had two three hundred debates formal
and informal with atheists over the years back to undergrad
and grad school, including debating professors my sophomore year publicly
on the topic of atheism, materialism, empiricism, skepticism. So what
that does. This doesn't give me ego. It gives me
a confidence in the position in terms of knowing that
there's only a limited number of places that an atheistic
materialist can go. There's only a limited number. Is it
possible that an atheist could propose an argument that I've
not heard? It is possible, but it's not going to
be possible for them to coherently ground the argument in
a world that from the outset limits the possibilities of ethics, metaphysics,
and epistemology so radically, which is what materialism does. So
that's why I have absolutely no fear in debating the
topic of atheism, God's existence and justifying such philosophic claims. Again,
another mistake that a lot of people have when it
comes to this topic is that they're not trained in
formal debate, so they don't know the parameters and rules
of formal debate and what constitutes justifying beliefs or justifying proposition. So,
for example, a lot of times you'll be in a discussion.
If you look at the comments on the Dill Hunty debate,
a lot of them don't even know what justifying a
claim means in philosophy. And that's because you have to
go through many years of philosophical grunt work to learn
these different concepts and ideas, and you have to really
struggle with it. While it's possible for somebody to be
self taught, there's always going to be gaps in being
self taught. So this is not me recommending that you
go to a brainwashing state funded university. I do not
recommend that we're in a position where that's way more
detrimental to your worldview health than it would be to
get the knowledge unless you chose, you know, something like engineering, right,
But definitely not in the liberal arts that you're going
to be ostracized. However, in my weird situation, I was
my parents basically said we will help you with college
if you go, and so I thought, well, in that case,
I'll do it. This was back into I started college,
you know, after high school, and this began in ninety
eight ninety nine, and I immediately went into theology and
went into philosophy. So over many years you begin to
see the especially if you're in that system, and then
if you are looking at the grad level, you begin
to see the problems of trying to make it in
normy academic world because it's such a click right. And
then we've seen the academic system shift pretty heavy, even
in the last fifteen to twenty years. So the reason
I say that is that I'm not recommending people go
to state schools or whatever kind of universities in the
liberal arts. However, with that said, there's a lot that
you miss if you are self taught, and that's why
Jason Elis we offer private philosophy tutoring, which we have
tutored many many people over the last two years. All
of these people who come at me, they don't tutor
anybody in philosophy. Nobody's going them to philosophy tutoring for
philosophy tutoring, because it's evident that I know what I'm
talking about. I couldn't be making a living doing that
kind of stuff if I didn't provide the product that
the people wanted. But we've had a lot of success,
not just in tutoring people one on one, but in
bringing a lot of people into Theism and into Orthodoxy.
Now again that's I didn't actually expect all this to
be happening. As you guys know, three years ago, we
were four years ago, we were talking about movies, conspiracies
and some philosophy. I had no idea I'd be now
writing a book commissioned to write a book on Thomas
Aquinas and critiquing the theology of Thomas Aquinas from the Palamite,
which is just Orthodox perspective. I didn't know I would
be writing a book with Father Diggan, doctor Anonius on
the transcendent argument. I didn't know I'd have two s
Carliwood books, right, So I didn't plan this. These things
have come along, there have been offers, authors have come
and if we weren't providing quality material, if you weren't.
If we didn't have good arguments, it wouldn't work. But
we are, and we don't lose debates. And we don't
lose debates not because of ego, but because we're correct,
and we're correct because of twenty years of wanting to
lose debates. And I'm serious about that, because I had
to run this internal dialogue and debate in my own
head to get to the positions that I'm at now.
And if I hadn't done that, if I hadn't been
willing to do that, yeah, I could have just I
could have just been ego egoistic and said, all right,
I'll just remain a Calvinist. I'll just remain a tumis,
I won't question this, I'll just forget it all be
some kind of platonisters. I mean that was possible, right,
I mean, why go into a position where I'm defending
Genesis for example? If this is just an ego thing.
Don't you think I would compromise on Genesis? Isn't that
the most obvious place for people to compromise. Don't you
think I've been passed over for TV work, all kinds
of things, books because that speaking engagements do you know
how many times I've been uninvited and not invited to
propose speaking engagements over these topics. Many And I'm fine
with that. And it's not because they think I'm wrong
or they think I'm a sincere. It's because of the
controversial nature some of the topics and because of the
perception of things like defending genesis. So if I was
here to be an egoist and to just merely argue
for the sake of argument winning debates, I can have
a lot more success, be a lot bigger by compromising
on those kinds of things. But why haven't I Why
wouldn't I do that? It doesn't make business sense and
motivational sense and intentional sense if the intention is just
to get a big audience just to do this. Or
look at how many political waves that could have ridden,
could have ridden the Trump wave, could have ridden, the
far right wave, could have ridden these different waves just
to get a big audience as the grift right did.
Did we do that here? No? Have we changed our
other Controversial'm not talking about theology, but have we changed
any of our controversial views in the other areas? No.
Obviously we want to remain. So there's areas that are
no longer allowed to be discussed like events in the past.
Has any of that information changed, No, because I got
woke to all that in two thousand and three. So
I know we're not here to talk about wokeness, but
it is always necessary to discuss what's going on where
we are. And a lot of times people don't see
what's going on in the background, right, they don't see
who I'm texting and what messages I'm being sent. They
don't see the screenshots that come to me of what
people are really saying in their private chats. And yes,
there's all kinds of people who will do that. I'm
not saying that's condoned. It just happens. Right, If you
have a decent sized audience, every day, somebody's going to
come to say, Bro, look at what somebody so and
so said to you. Now, a lot of times ignore
that because it's a huge distraction. Not telling people don't
feed information that's valid, because sometimes it's necessary. Like if
somebody is being deceptive about their view of you as
capturing Christianity was, they're being deceptive and pretending that, oh, bro,
I'm a fan of your work, and then secretly man,
I can't stand the transferal argument. I don't like you know,
then No, in that case, I welcome the information. Now.
At the same time, don't you think that I have
access to a wide breadth of different types of people.
Of course I do, so it's very easy for me
to find out in many cases what's really going on.
I can talk to people across the religious world in
different denominational settings. I can talk to people across entertainment world.
Now I don't know the high level top of the
people now in a couple of these areas, I do
know people at the higher levels. I don't know like
high level Hollywood people. No, but I can talk to
people that work in entertainment, people that have won awards
in entertainment. I could talk to people in the music industry,
not people at the top, but pretty prominent people. And
if you do this kind of stuff, you will We
just did two hours with Sam TRIPLEI. Sam triple a
well known stand up comedian, does a very woke show podcasts.
It's our third time being on Sam Tripley. My point
is that I can reach out feelers, and I can
make connections and talk to people. So I'm you're not
going to run a bunch of scams and trickery that
I can't that I'm not ultimately Like, let's say somebody
makes a hater video. Okay, within a minute of the
video going up, ten twenty people will message me the video.
I don't ask for that. It just happens. It'll get spammed.
I know, yes, I know that people make the hater videos.
It's just part of the game. It's part of what happens.
So guys, don't worry about it. All we have to do.
I figured out the better way to do this because
a lot of these people, especially in the religious realm.
I'll give the atheists this. Atheists are right about this.
In the religious realm. It's a lot of gammas. They're
right about it. And there's a lot of gammas in
the atheist realm too. Don't get me wrong here. There
are a lot of Gammas and Fedoras being tipped with
that soy drip in the atheists realm. But there's a
lot of soy gammas in the religious realm too. And
it's typically people who have not been successful, they've not achieved,
they've not confronted people, they've not been confrontational they've not
had the guts to man up and do stuff, to
create their own stuff. And so therefore, as Vox says
in his excellent video, they're envious and they're malicious, and
they oftentimes cloak that envy and that maliciousness behind an
attitude of faux piety. And they're ready to debate you
all day long on debating and tone, but they're not
going to debate you on the actual issues. And I
just want people to recognize that. Be ready look for
an hour two hours of guys, of debating you on
the tone, debating you on the words you can and
can't say, debating you on this that spending two hours, well,
spend an hour and then two hours going after your
personal your past, your personal issues. I mean, that's just
that's like the lowest level right now. If somebody wants
to launch an insult, that's fine, But an insult is different. Right,
We've done that. We do do that every now and
then because that's part of rhetoric. And also insults can
be vague. Right. If I say an argument is stupid,
the gamma soy will say you cud be stupid. That's
what Ibarra did, and they threatened to boot me because
I said the argument was stupid. That's stupid, I said, whoa, no, no, no,
that's part of debate. As somebody remarked on Twitter, the
greatest debates in history have included a large level of
insult invective in all kinds of satirical tone and satire
and sarcasm. Have you ever watched a British debate? Have
you ever watched the Oxford Debates, the most famous debate
form in the world in terms of classical education, Oxford Debates.
Have you ever watched any of those? Have you ever
seen how the speakers will will actually do subtile insults
and poisoning of the well as a means to ruffle
the opponent. Now that's true that technically speaking in a debate,
that you could label that inn that hominem, or you
could label it an informal fallacy of poisoning the well.
But as I said, onto it. As I said, debates
aren't two people exchanging algorithms, not to cute computers, machine
learning back and forth. It involves the art of rhetoric,
the skill of rhetoric right, which involves witty banter, which
involves anecdotes, which involves reduction at absurdums, reducing the other
persons position to absertaity. It involves all these kinds of things.
So to arbitrarily try to set up gay standards of
you can't say anything that we deem insulting is a
no no. If you and your rebuttal want to call
that out, you're absolutely free to right. I can say
whatever I want ten minutes, my fifteen minutes, and if
you notice my fallacies, or if you want to say hey,
it's your duty in the response to say, well, notice
that my opponent began his opening statement with a poisoning
of the well. Now, if he believes his argument is
that strong, why does he feel the need to begin
his opening statement by poisoning the well. That's how I
would respond to a person who had an opening statement
that poisoned the well. Boson did this in a famous
example in the Bonson Stein debate, where when there was
a situation where stein Stein's PhD was on quails, like
the biology of quails, and so how did Bonson begin
his debate? He poisoned the well and did it. He
did it on purpose, And he says he did it
on purpose. He said, you know, I made I illustrated
that my opponent was not fit to debate the subject
of the philosophy of God's existence, precisely because his PhD
dissertation was on quails. And how does studying quails give Stein,
doctor Stein, the philosophical competency to debate a question of
metaphysics and epistemology. And of course it doesn't, And that's
why he was crushed in the most famous debate in
the twentieth century, where even the atheist audience was laughing
at Stein. Now, Bonton didn't win debate debate because he
poisoned the well, but he did it for an illustrative reason.
He did it for a rhetorical reason. And it might
surprise you. But when I go to a debate, typically
I am not too worried about rhetoric. When you see
me getting heated and debating, that's the real me. I'm
not plotting some kind of like, oh, he's done this
at there, For at this point of debate, I need
to do this, and I'm going to launch my ad
hominy here and then after point C I'm going to
launch a hmm, poisoning on the wild fountain. No, I
don't do that who has time to do that in
a debate, you're thinking too quick, unless it's a formal
debate where you like, you know, there's time in between
each speaker and you write down a bunch of notes
or something. Maybe in that case you could lay out
your strategy or something. But no, typically, if I'm debating,
it's already in my head and I just fired out.
And one reason that we don't lose debates on this
sphere over here, on this side of things, is because
of twenty years of debating. We got started debating in
high school, excuse me, in college by going out every
night and debating. We would go to the coffee shop,
we go to the philosophy club meetings, we would go
to church, we would go to open forums at coffee nights,
coffee shops, debate, debate, a debate, debate, and we did
this all the time. We got on people's nerves, we
got on professor's nerves. But you know what that did.
That gave me years and years of experience in debates.
So as many if you if you played guitar for
twenty years, you can recognize things. If you debated for
twenty years, you can recognize things, you can recognize when
people want to, for example, have an arbitrary criteria for
an out, for an escape, for a way to not
do a debate. I mean, I've probably seen that fifty
times in twenty years now. If you're classic, if you're
interested in classical education, which is something that we promote
at Jays Analysis, we have we have done countless talks
and private tutoring lectures for people on classical philosophy in
relation to classical pedagogy. Saint Basil, Saint Photios, they speak highly.
Saint Gregory Pelmos all spoke well of classical education, the
liberal arts, trivium, quadrillium, this stuff right, and we support
those things. Sure, Now they're not the end all be all,
but many, many, many of the church fathers or trained
in rhetoric, trained in the classics, trained in logic, trained
in debate, Augustine great rhetorician, Jerome trained in rhetoric. It's
part of the classical education curriculum. Now in the last
fifty sixty seventy years, that is being abandoned. They are
getting rid of that. In fact, universities are getting rid
of classical debate and training. Now, why do you think
that would be well, maybe it has something to do
with brainwashing the control of public education, because what does
debate assume? Laws of logic and critical thinking and reasoning.
If you're a critical thinking and reasoning person, you're not
going to fall for all the BS brainwashing of the
state universities. You're not going to fall for them telling
you that a peep hole and a poopy hole or
the exact same thing. They're just holes. They're just relativized holes.
That's all. Everything's all things that exist are holes. That's it.
All that exists. The universe is one giant booty hole
on the postmodern educational brainwashing university paradigm. Anybody basic critical
thinking skills can figure out that that's not true. So
they don't teach you debate. You have been deprived of
not learning in the classical pedagogy debate. Remember that Denzel movie.
Remember that Denzel movie, The Great Debaters or something. Remember
that I was a woke movie, but that movie was
showing you, hey, wait a minute, where debate? Where's this?
That this has been lost and it's very unfortunate for
young guys. We've got a whole generation Millennials and gen
Z that were not taught critical thinking, not taught logic,
not taught debate, didn't do debates in college, didn't take
classes on epistemology. Don't know what it means to justify acclaim,
to make an argument coherent and consistent. I don't know
any of that. They couldn't tell you what a fallacy is.
They couldn't tell you three informal fallacies. They couldn't spot them.
So the public has been dumb down. Is the key here.
I know we're not talking about doctor Sleep yet, but
I just again is to comment on today's drama, today's issues,
and yes, so if you're watching this in the future
down the road, I'll probably just clip this whole first
part out. Maybe I'll make it its own video. I
don't know on debate, right, Like, what is the art
of debate? What is the art of rhetoric? What is
the art of discussion? Why is it an art? It's
not two autistic robots vomiting algorithms back and forth into
each other's mouths, like autistic retarded mam of birds to
a baby bird spitting it back and forth. No, no, no,
it involves finesse, charisma, wit, all the things that were
normal and existed before today's dystopia. There's a great heritage.
You know what's so sad is that we have such
a great heritage in this classical pedagogy Byzantium, an entire
empire are constructed around these ideas, around the idea of
the university. This was before Cardinal Newman's idea of universe.
This is back right before the Latin universe. This is
in Byzantheum, the heart of Christendom's intellectual ethos, classical pedagogy
and Byzantium, centuries and centuries of great bearded wizard looking
church fathers learning logic, learning rhetoric, learning, the liberal arts,
the trivium, the quadrivium, learning these things, and that's all
been jettisoned by the technocrats by design, which we've covered
for ten years. How y'all going to be mad at me?
I've been here for I've been woke since two thousand
and three, and I've been telling y' all this stuff
publicly for when did I start my first blog, my
first controversy two thousand and seven eight? This is two thousand, nineteen, twelve,
thirteen years of blogging, sixteen years of media analysis. So
you really You've really been shortchanged by not being given
the skills of logic rhetoric, which would have gone along
with anybody's classical pedagogy. You see, now it's specialized. You
can go into biology, you can get your PhD in biology,
and you don't know a single informal fallacy. How this
is crazy. If you can't learn the basic laws of thinking,
how are you going to tell us about the origins
of man. Oh, that's why they tell us about the
origins of man, because they actually don't have basic critical
thinking skills, because if they did, they would actually realize
that we don't evolve out of rocks and ponds come
to have life, and that's complete nonsense. So it actually
requires an intellectual elite that are high IQ and stupid
high IQ tards run the realm of academia quite literally,
because if they didn't, they might start thinking something can't
come from nothing. That's actually a true in philosophy. There's
absolutely no observation of something coming from no thing. Yet
we believe that all things came from no thing, and
there's absolutely no reason to explain how or why that happened.
We just accept it as scientist and dogma there's absolutely
no basis, no reason to believe that one species transmutates
into a completely species with irreducible, infinite complexity in each
phase of these so called random mutations. Complete nonsense, total
stupidity been refuted twenty different ways. But then that's when
we start to realize that people believe things for many, many,
many reasons other than because they're rational, logical, coherent, sensible,
et cetera. That's what we've seen in a lot of
the cults. All this cult research, all this analysis of
cults that we've done, it's just another version of doing
worldview analysis, doing Velton schanskrieg worldview warfare, which is part
of psychological warfare. And when we talk about Velton Schanskrieg,
that's when we start to consider paradigms. But the temass,
the atheists, these people are part of a old paradigm.
It's called classical foundationalism, and they've never questioned it. Anyway.
We're not here to talk philosophy. We've got all the
biz match out of the way at the beginning, So
let's talk about doctor Sleep and Kubrick and the Shining.
Now the Shining in two thousand and one. These are
old school Jay's Analysis Analyses and that is found in
my first book, Esoteric Hollywood One. Now, we did a
video that we do. I know we did two thousand
and one. No, we did, I can't remember. We did
a shining video a few years ago and it did okay.
I think it was one of the early quasi mini
docs that that we've done. So we want to talk
about this a little bit. And I want to remind
you guys that if you would like to get copies
of my book, the sign copies are available at Jay's
Analysis of Course one and parts two for twenty bucks
excuse me, thirty books sign copies. I will also this weekend.
I forgot to mention this Saturday, I mentioned it on
this Temple Hat. Temple Hat episode with Sam Tripoli is
going to be a banger. We had a girl on
there from the what was it Buddha the Buddha Field Cult.
If you've not seen the Netflix documentary, Holy hell, Holy hell,
it's not the Oh Show Cult. It's not the Source
Family Cult. By the way, watch all those they're good
Source Family Cult documentary. Oh Show Cult documentary that Tristan
and I covered. A lot of people said that was
the funniest livestream podcast that they've ever seen or that
we've done both. What other cult If you go back
in the Jason Nelsions archives, James Kelly and I covered Uh,
we covered Heaven's Gate, Nation of Islam, Jim Jones, and
two or three more. So we got a lot of
archives of colts. But those cult documentaries are really good.
And you oh the Kamara, don't forget the kumariw documentar
because you start to see the patterns in the colts.
Now eyeswat Shut is relevant to colts. But tonight we're
not really to talk about cults until we get to
Doctor Sleep. Oh, Doctor Sleep. That was some that was
That was a little more than I expect. Like that
was like, whoa, that's not the movie I expected. I
thought it was gonna be. You know, the trailer made
it look like another one of these evolving into having
X Men powers. I was like, is this gonna X Men.
They're gonna take a shining and turn it into young
first X Men first Class or whatever, like, oh, Jannie's
evolving to have the superpowers and he's like Magneto and
he's gonna make you know, Stephen King float and you know,
blow up or no, I mean it was it was
not that. So, as you know, some of those trailers
can be misleading. By the way, if you want to
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It's not like December tenth or whatever the day the
terms of service come out and then everybody's gone. It's
not gonna be like that. It's gonna be a thing
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I'll still be churning this stuff out and everything is
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get not demonetized, but they could put in the limited status.
The normal videos I upload, like the me and Jamie
in the car me talking about Terminator Darkflop, those get monetized,
which is interesting, but it seems like the hits are lower.
So I'm not sure what's going on, but the live
stream seem to be getting consistently the hits roughly speaking,
that we expect and have been getting in the past.
After about a week, we usually have about nine, ten
to eleven thousand, So that's pretty normal, I would say
from my site for my page, the normal video, but
they all get put in limited status, the normal videos
that are ten twelve, twenty minutes that aren't live streamed.
They're almost always in the green for ads, but they
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going on or how they're what they're doing here. And
by the way, the channel they so they put out
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be deleting bought profiles and all that. Everybody has this right,
so naturally we went We were at forty three point
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then it was six, and it was down to five,
and then it was back to seven. So I think
all that's been out of the way. But then now
I have to choose, and I'm not really sure how
this works. Everybody now as a creator has to pick
whether our content is child online privacy protected. Now anything
to do with kids, it has to do with the
way they're going to structure the advertising. So ads on
child friendly content will be promoted and good for your channel,
but you have to specify whether your channel is a
child friendly channel. Now, this is very ambiguous, and I
think part of that is ambiguous right on purpose. It's
talking about theology child friendly. I guess talking about movies
child friendly, not Doctor Sleeps, right. I mean, have you
seen the video? I mean, whoa. But so I think
there's the option too though, to you can make the
decision to choose each video, like I want to choose
each video one by one to see if this is
child appropriate. So yeah, and it'll be interesting to see
how a lot of these big music videos are they
all going to be deemed not child I mean, I
don't know. Come on now, yeah, I put I round
up by the way, by the way YouTube rounds up,
or they used to they used to round up if
you had forty three point seven, they would just say
forty four. So yeah, I'm exposed as having a lot
of the people who do the exposing by the way
they have fake they bought fake subscribers. A lot of
trads have bought fake subscribers Anyway, we're way off topic.
So in my book I differed with Jay Wier, who
Jay Winner was famous for being. He did two Kubrick
documentaries which are really good, Kubrick's Odyssey and then what's
the second one? Wait watched Kubrick's Odyssey, and he thinks
that there's indications that Kubrick was involved in the Moon fiasco.
I believe that is very plausible. I'm not totally convinced
about The Shining, secretly referring to that it could, but
I typically think that the Shining is an allegory for
the spiritual weirdness of America, and that America's elites, and
namely the Anglo American establishment elites, the Eastern Seaboard elites,
whom Crowley is describing in Both eyeswat Shut and in
The Shining, and in Barry Lyndon and oh actually in
many of his works. That's who I think is being discussed.
And we see the unnatural proclivities of furries and older people,
younger people in The Shining and in many Kubrick films.
We've talked about this in many interviews. I think Kubrick's
trying to tell you a long time ago you're elite
or a bunch of sikhos your elite or a bunch
of satanic pridos pridos. I'm gonna start talking with some
kind of weird cholo to avoid the algorithm pritos preto file,
prito phile. I could just use my voice. Why don't
I think of this? Just use crazy voices to get
around el algorithmos el algorithm mos. How is the transcriber
tech gonna figure that one out?
Speaker 2: Well?
Speaker 1: So I meant, yeah, that's where I was going next.
But now there's two. There's Kubrick's Odyssey, and then there's
another one, and then Jay Widner was one of the
main stars of Room to thirty seven, which was the
mega popular Kubrick documentary where they interviewed four people, three people,
four people on their analysis a Kubrick film and uh
the Shining particularly it's a it's a it's an interesting documentary,
but uh, you know, Widener is sort of the Jie
Wiener's the I would say the most convincing and interesting
analysis in Room two thirty seven. So everybody should go
watch Room two thirty seven, by the way, I should
if I was thinking about it and not being a dumb, dumb.
Why did I not get a copy of Room two
thirty seven autographs? That was so stupid of me not
to do that. Why don't I just forgot? I did
go get Blade Runner when I thought was gonna get
to meet Mary Sean Young, and I didn't get my
Blade Runner, but I did get my minds of men.
Aaron and Melissa Dikes are great friends. Aaron Melissa Dykes.
We did get that autograph, so that was cool. I
should send I should send to Sean Stone to get
Oliver Stone to autograph. I wonder if you'd do that.
That's a good idea. I just thought about that, all right.
So if you've not seen Kubrick's Odyssey, definitely go watch it.
If you've not seen Room two thirty seven, definitely go
watch it. A couple of one or two of those
in Room two thirty seven were really dumb. It was like,
what you think the shining is about that? I think
it's about haunted America. I think that Stephen King was
talking about haunted America and weird occult esoteric stuff in America.
And wouldn't you know your boy right here was vindicated
because doctor Sleep is the Stephen King Story sequel, and
everything that I said was right to everything. Remember when
Twin Peaks Season three came out. I do remember when
Mark Frost and David Lynch wrote that big fat history
of Twin Peaks after two or three years after I
wrote my big long analysis. I'm not saying Mark Frost
wrote read my analysis. Maybe he did, but whether he
did or didn't, every freaking detail that I laid out
in my Twin Peaks analysis was spot on, word up. Everything.
I was right about all of it, the Crowley part,
the cult part, the mind control part, the Parsons part,
on and on the portals, all of it. What the
owls mean? I remember like six years ago, I would
talk about the esoteric aspect of David Lynch movies and
I'd not even written any David Lynch analysis. And I
remember like movieopile be like, you're an idiot, there's nothing esoteric,
and David what I had one guy you smoking series.
I was like, dude, I know what I'm talking about. Oh,
there's nothing esolitic, and David, they really arrogant laugh with
a cigarette. Oh. And then Mark Frost's book comes out
and it's everything I said I wrote my analysis two,
three years before Mark Frost book came out. And if
you read Eslteric Hollywood too, you know that because we
included the Twin Peaks analysis in part one, and then
we included the Firewall with Me and Twin Peaks season
three analysis in part two. But yeah, I forgot. This
is another vindication. We were vindicating on Twin Peaks. We're
vindicating on our analysis of the Shining. I mean, I
could get, I could get, I couldn't. But what if
if Vivian Kubrick came on here and she was like,
everything that you said is correct in all of your
Kubrick analyzes, people would still be like, she doesn't know
who is this woman? This woman doesn't know. Remember when
Jones had Mike Judge on and Mike Judge did uh.
Speaker 2: Uh like uh.
Speaker 1: And he did his Beavis and butt Head and people
would say that that's a terrible Beavis and butt Head
when it's the dude who is the voice of Beavis
and Butted. That's that's how that's the worst where we're at.
You can get Vivian Kubrick on here. She could say
all of Jay's analysis are correct on Kubrick and people
would be.
Speaker 3: Like, who is this woman?
Speaker 1: What the heck does that woman know? She didn't know anything.
By the way, I cited an interview with Vivian Kubrick
in part one, but who cares. Nobody knows. They don't care. Now,
I found some critics, interestingly, her mainline critics have actually
had some good analyzes of my that were along the
same lines. And they were just normy critics. Dude, they
weren't even into weirdesse the Turk stuff, and they were like, yeah,
there's some weird intentions here. And Kubrick mentions in some
of his talks HP Lovecraft in all things, we want
to keep it mysterious and never explain the meaning. Kubrick. Uh,
the critics Walker Tailor and Rookdie say. So this applies
to Kubrick's own works. Now, a lot of people consider
this one of the best films of all time. And
it's very interesting because obviously, I think we're supposed to
see in Jack Torrance, well, the Jack character. We're supposed
to see some Stephen King and him because he's a writer,
and of course Jack Torrance. We don't get the impression
that he's been too successful, right, I mean, they don't
have much money, they've got a little apartment. He feels
like he can't write sufficiently and correctly with the distractions
of this family that he's got. So he's starting to
resent the family life because he wanted to be amongst
the what do they call him, the good people, the
better people, right, the beautiful people, the beautiful people. And
so he seems to have already kind of had a
few snaps, right because at the beginning we're told that
Jack had snapped and broke Danny's arm by yanking him,
and that this was a fit in one of his
phases of having a drinking problem. And what a lot
of people have missed in this opening first act are
the clues and the weird things in the apartment Danny's
mom is. It doesn't say she's a witch, but she
has books on witchcraft, and they are prominently displayed in
certain scenes on purpose, of course, Kubrick put everything in
every scene intentionally. Danny has a lot of cartoon characters,
and we even see some weird kind of like why
did Danny stick the cartoon stickers and characters in that circle,
Like maybe he had experienced some weird things. And then
we find out and I By the way, somebody said
you ripped off rob Agger. If you cite somebody in
a footnote, that's not ripping off. I have footnotes in
my book that site rob Ager, and I gave rob
Agger credit for saying and pointing out the subtle proclivities
that were told about Jack Torrens the magazine. Jack has
the magazine, a newdie mag that's not for girls that
he seems to like. And then, as we know, it's
hinted that Tony has been abused, not just beat up.
It appears that there's other kinds of abuse going on.
I think that's true. So it turns out Jack is
being possessed. This is a phase of gradual and gradual
and gradual demonic possession. Obviously, obviously Jack's progressing in his
phases and stages of demonic possession. Have you watched the
Holy Held documentary if you haven't watched that, because that
cult leader dude is like he starts out as this
Hollywood actor guy. And by the way, he's in Rosemary's Baby.
He's an extra, he's got he's in a couple of
scenes of Rosemary's Baby. In the circles of Roman plants.
Keep starts a cult. What does everybody in Hollywood start
a cult? Is that what you do? You go to
act and then you go through whatever weird cult you're
in to start your cult. That's crazy, but that's apparently
what they do. And if you watched it. The thing
that's in the documentary that stuck out to me. And
I'm saying this because on Sam Tripoli's show, we covered
this for two hours yesterday. We did a two hour
interview with one of the girls from the cult. And
you watch that dude and he's like he's like a
robot puppet ballerina and he is like a ballerina. The
dude is a ballerina. If you see Holy Hell, you'll
know what I'm talking about, Right, He's a ballerina. Now
I'm not gonna cramp. Okay. So at the beginning, though,
he's got this like he's got this.
Speaker 4: Like.
Speaker 1: He looks like that for the whole beginning part, and
then fast forward to like twenty years later, and he's
like he looks like a total like he's like he's
not there. And the interviews with the cult people there
and they don't even believe in spirituality. The interview was
with the cult people are like, man, this guy was possessed.
It was some other creature that like stepped forward in
that guy's body and was like, you know, moving this
guy around like he's a ballerina puppet. And so I'm
saying that progression with that crazy dude is the same
that we see with Jack Torrence. Now, one interesting element
that did pop up between Doctor Sleep and Shining pretty quick?
Did you notice the office of the AA guy, the
guy that has the AA meeting? What was he a lawyer?
I forget what he was. I think it was a lawyer,
or no, he's a doctor. The doctor. He's got the
same office as the manager of the hotel allman in
the Shining, Like even down to the detail, it's like
the same office. I was like, whoa, that was pretty crazy.
Remember that. So I think what we're supposed to think
about or realize is that there are triggers, there are
things that are recurring, and Kubrick does seem to have
affinities with eternal turn right Nietzschean doctrine of eternal recurrence
eternal return, which is just the idea that time is
not linear with the beginning, middle end, it's cyclical. See
ancient pagan view set over against the Biblical view of beginning,
middle and end, now the or beginning of the shining too.
I wanted to mention this as well. Remember how it's
and the camera's flying over that lake and you see
the above and below that as above, so below that's
I think telling it's almost like we are a spirit,
demonic entity sort of get seeing from above what's about
to go down. Maybe that's even the demon that's coming
to essentially inhabit Jack Torrens because on the drive we
start to notice the that do That dude is already psycho, right,
he already resents Danny. I can't stand him. And there's
a discussion about Danny says something like I saw people
eating people on TV. Cannibalism, cannibalism Doctor Sleep, and Jack's.
Speaker 3: Like, well, I guess you know everything from the TV,
don't you.
Speaker 1: Janny Right, he's already losing it, but it's still phases,
like he's still got to kind of, you know, go
through the phases. So he's got repressed issues that relate,
probably to his own abuse. And I think in Doctor
Sleep does it say Jack was abused? Probably, I don't know.
I have not read the Stephen King books. By the way,
I've read The Stand, and I read Nightmares and Dreamscapes,
and I read the first couple Dark Tower books, so
I like, I don't I'm not a huge you know,
Stephen King buff I like a few of the books.
The Stand was cool, Dark Tower was cool. And by
the way, in Dark Tower too, you can it's spirits
and souls stepping into different bodies. So we know that
in the mind of Stephen King, it's possession type stuff, right,
I mean, we can vindicate, we can know that Stephen
King knows about that. And also the Tower itself is
kind of this mystical center of the multiverse where you
step into different portals and worlds, right, so it's kind
of got a it's kind of like a rosy crushing
kind of thing going on here. Probably it's just speculating,
I don't know, because isn't there something to do with
the Rose? And there's something to do with the Rose
and Roland. I'm just gonna it's been year, like ten
years since I read Dark Tower. But anyway, I'm sure
you guys in the chat will know. We've always got
like a aficionado of anything that comes up, So all
you Stephen King Fishing, not like I've never read it.
I'm not reading Insomnia and like I'll read ten thousand
pages of Stephen King books. I think the movie is
about making a deal with the double and that's what
Jack thinks he's gonna get. At the Overlook, he thinks
he's gonna get this weekend away. I don't know if
he's really planned necessarily to get rid of them. Maybe
because he does seem to kind of think and know
that the job will be him there all winter with
the family and nobody else. That seems to be why
he wants it. But as to how far he's really
planned this out, it's a little unclear. But we know
that things that have been referenced earlier in the film,
like the Big Bad Wolf Jack will become the Big
Bad Wolf. Jack will become the minotaur in the Maze.
Remember the Maze. He's the minotaur in the Maze. There's
also a lot of weird posters that come up. There's
actually a poster of a minotaur of a bull's head
when we see the two twins, which are Gemini. There's
also an astrological aspect to this, when the twins appear
to Danny in the game room. In the game room,
there's also a poster of a skier and it says Monarch.
Project Monarch is the mind control in Kultu program that
dealt with trauma, abuse, psyches, et cetera. We've done many,
many talks on this, and go listen to all the
globalism classic talks on nam culture. And so we see
this bull, Monitor Taurus, and the Gemini Twins and Project
Monarch all in one scene in the game room, and
then we start to realize that, Okay, yes, Kubrick is
actually hearkening to mythology. He's hearkening not just to well
with the maze and with the Minotaur, to the to
the story of theseus. Right, He's in the maze, minotaurs
after him, gonna get out of the maze. In the esoteric,
what is the maze? The psyche, not just the psyche,
but the realm of the dead, the underworld, the It
can be both. The maze is used for both. The
maze can also be used as an allegory for this life.
When you are in this life, you're in a maze.
Try to find your way back to God, to Heaven,
et cetera. Now I should mention too that the books
that Wendy has are very revealing. She has a book
on witchcraft called The Magic Circle. Ey's White shut exactly.
Magic Circle comes up many times. She has another book
called The Mother Goddess. And so they they seem to
represent Boomers. They're a little older than the Boomers, but
it's still that generation roughly. Because she's into, you know,
alternative spiritualities. She's also in the literature. She's got witchcraft stuff.
Jack wants to be a writer. He's got a drinking problem.
He's trying to get over this drinking problem, we think,
and he's starting to lose it. And it turns out
he is the psychopathic, parasitic one who will be the
mentaar in the Theseus myth, which is what we are
looking at, and not much of literature is essentially concerned
with representing the ancient myths. Right archetypal mythological story is
being represented the Maze clearly, as I say, quoting, I
don't know who's some scholar. The maze alludes to the
minotaur myth, which is a monster with the head of
a bull in the body of a man who was
kept in a labyrinth and fed on human flesh until
the hero Theseus killed him fed on human flesh, cannibalism,
Doctor sleep Right. The company that made Kubrick's Killer's Kiss
his old film. Guess what the name of that production
company was, Meneta our production in the film environment his
destiny and not its instrument. So I think we're starting
to There's also areas in the film where it almost
seems like some of it is in the psyche of Jack,
like he wants to imprison Danny in the maze, and
that he's going to use the maze to terrorize and
kill Danny and possibly eat him. I mean, we're not
told obviously I haven't read the book, but in the
Kubrick film, we're not told that he's going to eat Danny,
except Danny does mention cannibalism. And in the Theseus mythology,
the menotaur eats humans. So whoa right now? And by
the way, I cited Rob Eggert actually several times, so
people somebody saying I was ripping him off. It's like,
don't you know how he cite a paper. It's not
ripping people off the site somebody. It's called research. There's
also a commentary on American society. This is another layer
to the Kubrick. This is why Kubrick's so fun is
because he's got all these layers. So it's not just
this esoteric union, mythological, archetypal element. There's also the American
cultural critique that we got going with the Cold War
and Doctor Strangelove greatest example of satire of the Cold War.
It's a classic. And the key to this is that
when Danny goes into the game room, Danny seems to
represent in a way, the younger generation of Americans at
that time, and Jack has this weird Danny gets lost right,
which is significance significant, a literal infigurative, since he has
been abandoned and his parents have a fixation on the landscape,
leaving him forgotten in the game room, Jack rhetorically comments
on Danny's playfulness, did you get tired of bombing the universe? Danny?
He s this bizarre line after Danny's in there playing
Asteroids or whatever game he's playing. Now, I know that
sounds a little out there, but if you've watched a
lot of Kubrick, you realize it's not. Kubrick always layers
his movies with other Kubrick content, and it's a very
consistent presentation. David Lynch does the same thing. A new
David Lynch movie will reference Eraserhead, right, Wild at Heart
will reference Twin Peaks. Remember when this is a snake
shegin jacket? Right? Remember when Nick Cage and Lord Dern
come upon Audrey Horn wrecked with a head injury. Now
it doesn't say she's Audrey Horn, but seems like that's
Audrey anyway. I mean it's the same actress. Right. Remember
when at the end of Walden Heart, who's the good
Witch of the West and walden Heart Laura Palmer Kubert
does the same thing. He brings all the Kubrick cannon.
Speaker 4: Up to that point into play.
Speaker 1: Why would Kuberck do this? What is the Rank Corporate?
What is? I just go? What is what does doctor
Strange love lampooning the Rank Corporation? Go? Listen to my
mini watch my mini documentary and the talk I did
on in the Rank Corporation. Kuberck knew this then, Kuberck
knew the whole picture of the elite. All the stuff
that we are saying now is woke. After Epstein and
all this stuff, do Kubrick knew this back when he
made Probably Killers Kiss. Now do I know all of
Kubrick's motives as to whether it was all to expose
the elite. I'm not going to guess on people's motives.
Maybe people are conflicted, conflicted in their motives. They don't
always have one motive. Maybe they were, you know, wanted
to do good, but they were also compromised. Maybe I
don't know. I don't who cares. I know what it's
like to have thousands of people guessing your motives and
attributing to you false motives. They don't know your motives.
Motives are what soy gammas debate and obsess on because
you can't prove or disprove motives. There's no way to
do it. You don't know. That's why they want debate facts.
They want debate the actual texts and the issues. But
Kubrick is absolutely lampooning the Rand Corporation. It's called the
Bland Corporation in Doctors translim Thus we know which is
prior to the shining that Kubrick was totally woke on
the Cold War. He was totally woke on what mkulture
of mind control, CIA, mind control, all this stuff. Is
does that mean his whatever his personal worldview is, it's true. No, No,
I mean two thousand and one. It's like evolutionary transhumanism. Basically,
that doesn't mean that if kuber actually believed the philosophian
world view, tw thousand and one doesn't mean it's true.
But two thousand and one is telling you the philosophian
worldview of the elite totally obviously Luciferian apotheosis and transhumanism,
that's obvious. That's totally what it's about, gnostic evolving into
becoming God. So someone like Kubrick, regardless of his motives,
is very important to understanding the overall worldview of the
elite because he puts it into all of the films.
Why do you think he did Lolita? Why do you
think he directs Barry Lyndon, which includes the themes of Osway,
Shutt and Lolita? What is Barry Lynnon trying to do?
Get up into the degenerate elite? And then he realizes,
why do I want to be in the degenerate elite?
They're awful, right, and so it's all a bunch of
fools game. So Barry Lyndon learns the exact same thing
that Jack Torrens learns. Is there a bunch of nasty degenerates.
But Jack learns it the hard way because he gets
fully possessed. And the hotel is, Yeah, it's kind of
represents America. It's Indian burial ground. Oh, Stephen King with
the Indian barrel ground right like Poulter guys, shocker there,
it's America's a giant Indian barrel ground is a big
haunted house. America is a haunted Indian It's like the
Overlook Hotel. And there is a dark elite running the show.
That's the whole thesis of While at Heart, that's the
thesis of Twin Peaks. It's like the microcosm of America
in these situations. Now, Kubrick, but Spartacus, he seems to
have an affinity with Marxism. Sure, many people people are
talking about the sixties counterculture people in the chat right. Yes, exactly,
a lot of the counterculture people in the sixties they
thought this is a lot of baloney. Then it must
be Marxism. Remember back to the French Revolution. The philosophs.
If the corrupt pope and the Borges or whatever you know,
got hundreds of years of these borges that are totally corrupt,
then you've got these post Renaissance posts that are just
as corrupt. Does that mean that everything Luther's saying is
wrong or right? No? Does that mean that everything that
the philosophs are saying and when they characterized the total
corruption in the Latin Church at that time is true. No,
That's why I have to be precise here. So in
the same way it I'm sure a lot of people
who had valid critiques of the existing system, they fell
into the false dialectical trap of Marxism. So, yeah, Cooper
probably thought Marxism was like, oh, yeah, that's what else
is there? Right? The rest of this is a bunch
of controlled by banks and corporations. And then you realize, oh,
Marxism is a creation of the banks and the corporations. Oops,
this is a fake dialect. But once you can think
outside these dialectics, then you can kind of move in
and out of the these different systems and understand them
in a broader perspective. That's how we can look at Kubrick.
We can learn a lot in Kubrick without adopting all
of the solutions. This is why we could read a Calvinist.
We can read Bonson, we can learn a lot from Boson.
That doesn't mean we have to adopt all Boson solutions
to everything. No, That's what we do in philosophy, is
that we parcel out the true and the false. Nothing
wrong with that. Church fathers can look at Plato and say,
this is an interesting insight from Plato. Let's explain this.
Or they can look at Aristol and say here's an
interesting instrument from Aristotle, and they can transform those terms
and they can give them new meanings. In the Orthodox context,
that's always how the fathers treated various philosophic systems. So
whether it's sat Dinysius looking at Plato or whether it's
Saint John Damascus and Saint Maximus looking at Aristotle, we're
not bound to those structures. We can take from here
and there. When we look at film, when we do
film analysis, much like literary analysis, we don't have to
confine it to one level. We don't have to say
it's all one thing. It's not, Oh, Kubrick is all good,
Kubrick's all bad. I don't know, but I can decode it.
Given my paradigm, my worldview. An attempt to look at
it from all these different layers and levels. If you
take a college class, as we say many times, you
will do what's called a literary close reading. If you
do Dostoevsky one of my favorite classes, we did a
lot of Doltiski, We did Notes from the Underground, and
we did Crime Punishment. You will look at the text,
you will consider the characters. You'll consider the perhaps archetypal
connection of the characters. Who's the young hero, who's the
old wise sage, right, this kind of stuff, Who's the
which temptious archetype? Right? This kind of stuff? Then perhaps
you will look for deeper significances. What is the significance
of Sophia in Crime and Punishment? Who does she report?
What does she represent? Wisdom? What about grace? What about
Raskolnikov's transition from wanting to attain worldly power to many
years of suffering to attain to repentance and humility and
salvation through Sophia. So you'll do that kind of analysis.
If you read Flannery O'Connor. I had great grad classes
on Flannery O'Connor, so much awesome symbolism there. What I
do with film is the exact same thing that you
would do in a literally close reading, except that I
don't just keep it on the symbolic level. I also
bring in the geopolitical, the occult, espionage, philosophy, all these
different realms. And that's what we do here in this
That's why when people say, what's your book, like generally,
size's not like anybody's book. I mean, the closest thing
would be like Roger Eber talking about symbolism and film,
but it's very shallow. It's very like he got an
English degree, so he'll talk about so and so character
went through this Denewmont to achieve personal redemption. So that's
not I mean, we go way deeper than that. Okay,
I talked about some similarities between Next, I launched into
a big thing about mazes, because mazes are fascinating, especially
in the ancient medieval world what they signified, and the
garden mazes were a thing of the elite, the horteous pallantius.
Do you know the hortus plantius of the elector Frederick
the Palatine the fifth, and he built this giant it
doesn't exist anymore, got destroyed in war, but this giant
maize by the palace, and it had all kinds of
crazy esoteric stuff in the maze, and that's because the
elite have been doing this for a long time. We
talked about Aeneas in the underworld, talk about the underworld
as a maze, and then I launched into stuff that
nobody has ever talked about yet, because I read a
bunch of the Bolingin series from Priston in Comparative Religion,
and I talked about the history of tribes and the
mystical significance of mazes. You see that, you see what
the tribes would do with the turtle. They would find
patterns on the backs of turtles, and they would ascribe
to them very intricate geometric meanings, forms and significances. And
so if you've seen a mandala, some of these actually
look like mandala. Is very fascinating. Why would a tribal,
very primitive tribe notice the geometrical structures in turtle shells
and derive from that thing's equivalent to a mandala or
a sigil. Basically very fascinating. So I investigated the animistic
views of the Malakulon tribe off the I think they're
off the coast of Australia or something like that. I
don't know as many years since I wrote this analysis,
but if you've not read Spiritual Disciplines papers from the
around US yearbook though that series.
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Speaker 1: Very fascinating, a lot of perennial stuff in there. I'm
not recommending everything. There's actually a couple of Orthodox articles
in those actually which are pretty good. But so I
moved from the esoteric and literary analysis to the sort
of Youngian approach to these turtle shells because they're mazes,
just fascinating, crazy stuff. And I think that there's something
too that I think that Stephen King and ancient mythology
is doing this because I don't know something about we
don't know exactly what I mean. Father Rose talks about
the toll houses and after you die, what it's like.
And he talks about similarities to the Tibetan Book of
the Dead. I'm not saying t Betan Book of the
Dead is correct, but similarities as to the passage out
of this life into the next life, That's what I'm
talking about. So then when I talked about the two
twin pillars of Jem and I, the two sisters, the twins,
we talked about many instances of butterflies being seen. It's
hard to figure out where in this picture because it's
black and white, but there's like a little butterfly when
Shelley Long is bringing Jack Nicholson dinner, and I think
there's I think butterfly stickers are in Danny's room. I
mean all the Disney characters there too, which is totally
you know, a bunch of my control stuff too in
Danny's sticker collection. But Danny has a shirt forty two. Now,
this is one of the more fascinating instances of symbolism
in the film. Danny has a shirt number forty two.
What movie is Danny's mom watching? Summer of forty two?
And what is Summer of forty two about? Some of
you guys know it's about an improper relationship between an
older and two young person. Hint, hint again telling you
what the nature of Danny's abuse is. Is not just
Jack being drunk and yank in his arm.
Speaker 2: It's not just big drunk at yeah gig bye eye.
Speaker 1: So we got a very dysfunctional family this boomer generation,
maybe almost right, transit almost into the boomer gener They're
very dysfunctional families falling apart. Jack sees the elite, the
britt elite, interesting, the elite who are running the cult
and as white shut what is the password for the house? Right?
The hierarch high refont of that crazy cult a sex
cult with his British accent. And by the way, remember
the news a couple of months ago, who was one
of the voices of the girls? Well, it just happens
to be Kate Blanchett, they say, one of the voices
of Kate. But was that one was Kate Blanche's butt
there too? Maybe? I don't know, But was it just
her voice or was she one of the people in
the store. Was this real?
Speaker 3: Like?
Speaker 1: Is this a documentary?
Speaker 5: Right?
Speaker 1: Kate Blanchett seems to prefer she likes to play those
witchy Roles too, doesn't she Yeah, the House with a
Clock in the walls, she is a witch. What's that
movie about ritual magic? But there's nothing to suggest that
the elite would be involved in cults and ritual magic?
Is there? No, nothing at all. That's just a completely
crazy idea And there's absolutely nothing in the last year two,
three four years of mainstream news that would suggest anything
even close to that. It is totally a crazy idea,
not anything at all. Nothing to do with black male
sex called sex rings, nothing nowhere. It's just a crazy guys,
it's overblown. It doesn't exist. Oh wait, that's all the
news has talked about for three four years. And I
say three four years because I'm going back to Saville,
Penn State, all the UK elite stuff. It's not just
Jimmy Saville, the whole bunch of them Wiki leaks anyway. Now,
Jack gets straight up possessed. That's how I read this.
I mean he's straight up talking to ghosts, dead people
and demons. I mean that's what I think this is. Yeah,
the hotel's haunted, but it's not that Jack's getting possessed.
Because the hotel's haunted. Jack's getting possessed because he's evil
as frick and he's going to a place where there's
a bunch of damn demons, that's one. And what does
he see, Well, he sees a lot of weird things, blood,
crazy stuff, spirits, dead people. He sees a.
Speaker 5: Furry, a furry doing furry things to a brit elite
and he remember all men, explains.
Speaker 1: To Jack, Oh, well, this hotel is the this is
where the Jets set of the twenties and thirties. All
the best people came here, the British elite, the royals,
the Hollywood stars. Oh it's a ritual site. There you go.
It's Epstein Island the twenties and thirties. And that's why
there's bears doing furry things. Now, who knew about furries
in the seventies? When does this come out in nineteen
seventy Something nobody knew about furries back then. You had
to be a super elite creeper to be a furry
in the seventies. Well, this book, this movie is about
super elate creepers. That's what that's why. So there you go.
There you want some crazy predicatar program house the furries?
Does Jay talk about the Shining talking about moon landing. Gretchen,
my TV show is co created with the dude who
made the documentaries about the Shining being about the moon landing.
We talked about it in the first hour. Remember, there's
this interesting thing to Crowley actually told his disciples to
train themselves in walking backwards and talking backwards. And reportedly
that's part of the reason why in the Black Lodge
in Twin Peaks, things are said they're set in reverse
but then played forward. It's really it creates a really
weird I wud mud boods yep, right, And that's.
Speaker 6: Why rab rab bad it's spelled in reverse because it's
a message coming from the spiritual realm.
Speaker 1: And now this will all be made, of course a
lot clearer in Doctor Sleep because we're going to see
more about what the Shining is. By the way, Stephen King,
I think has a new book out. I haven't read it.
I'm not interested in reading it. But he has a
new book out. Don't remember what it's called. It's basically
like stranger things, like a group of kids who have
clairvoyant gifts who are put into an mk ultru mental thing.
Well that's what eleven is and stranger things. That's kind
of what this is. The shining is that, and as
I said, it will that will be made very clear
in doctor's sleep. But we're talking about this so much
because this is so We have expended so much time
and effort and energy and analysis in the last several years,
six seven, eight, nine years analyzing Kubrick and Lynch films
and talking about elite esoteric stuff. And that the fact
that it was in movies for all these years and
then it was telling us about reality. That's what I'm
known for. I've been here and talking about this for
a long time. Even mainstream Kubrick analysiss analysts would mention
the scene between Nicholson and Stone has a cool and
comic civility that turns downright chili. As a the spook
gives Torrance his orders to kill the family. Demons and
ghosts are telling him what to do. The actors serve
Kubrick impeccably. They play the Masquerade with relish for its
picturesque undertones, only hinted at by Grady's use of choice
words like a correction, as if this were the trigger
word for Torrance's programmed psychosis. That's a Normy critic saying
that I thought that was crazy. So I said years ago, yes,
there are elite satanic psychopaths and they promulgate psychopathy to
their children in progeny, regardless of one's opinions on those matters.
This is what the shining is about. I wrote that
years ago, Brye b Brydad, this is why Danny dissociates.
Danny dissociates because he's been traumatized. He's a I mean,
the film is not necessarily saying that. I mean, Jack
Torrance is not part of MK ultra. It's not saying that.
It's talking about that in availed way, in the sense
of trauma causing the dissociation in Danny. And that's why
I do think in Eyeswear Shut, for example, it does
look like the daughter of Tom Cruise and Nicole Kimmen
are that she's and she's being prepared for a traumatizing lifestyle.
I do agree with the interpretation of the end of
Ours White Shop, because that's what the elite class do.
Did you know that, I mean even quickly talks about this.
Towards the end of Tragian Hope. He said that the
British elite they would send their kids to boarding schools
to train the kids to not have familial attachments to parents,
because it would make them It would blunt their emotions
and they would become more ruthless if they did not
have a lot of matriarchal motherly love and attention. I'm
not kidding. The elites have known that they can intentionally
create psychopathic offspring who are fitted to rule in the
mind of the elite because they've been intentionally traumatized. Isn't
that wild? Talk about a fallen world? Can you imagine
being a parent and like getting off on creating psychopathic children?
It's like, whoa dude? But then, and if that seems outlandish, uh,
we live in a world where people eat kids and
they offer them to Moloch. Right, Rome, just put a
giant statue of Molock up. Yes, elites have been psychopathic
and totally degenerate, and now it's all coming out. And
does anybody say thank you, Jay, You're right?
Speaker 2: No.
Speaker 1: Every week there's a new attack video trying to take
me down. Every week it's he must be destroyed, as
one dude said, So the best people of the nineteen twenties,
the jet set, as they're called, the Hollywood elite, the royals,
They're all shown up in the to be the ghostly, parasitic,
demonic inhabitants of the Overlook, demanding that Jack offer up
his family as a blood sacrifice as his duty, and
he would be joining them, so in order to be
among the elite. The shining is telling us there's a
spiritual realm that demands a form of blood sacrifice, and
that is the payment that you owe as your duty
to join this elite. And I even mentioned Raskolnikov in
Crime and Punishment, like the character of Jack, because remember
Raskolnikov thinks that to be a great man of history,
why not commit murder If that's what gets me ahead?
Why not? I'm trying to remember what my point here was.
Rob Ager had a great quote here that I cided,
bear suit, bear bottom. Is this a punt? Is Kubrick
using a sly visual metaphor to reveal certain characters in
the film, such as Jack and Olman as bear faced
liars or Bito Pito peo peel peito peel bears. I'm
saying that in Mexican speak to get around el algorithmos.
And we have Hispanic supporters and they will all love that.
All the Mexican people in Spain will love that. That's
a joke. By the way, I had a I said,
have a friend of his Portuguese. I would always joke
with him about being a Mexican in Portugal. Teeth in
the Colorado Lounge. I don't know what this. I don't
remember what he saw it, but which represented Jack the
teeth of the furry Bear suit already conclude that Wendy
actually sees Jack doing that to Danny. I think it's
is it Is it Wendy that sees the furry Agger
posits that that's Wendy's trauma. I'm not sure about that,
but I think they're really seeing the demonic elite of
the twenties, the jet set. Abused children grow up to
become abusers, and they repeat the cycles and sins of
the parents in a continuous cycle cyclical history and views.
That's exactly what's going on here. So I end my
analysis with talking about similarities too, as I shot talking
about the cultural stuff furres all this crazy stuff, satanic sacrifice,
human sacrifice, America as a giant Indian hunted up burial ground,
and the eternal recurrence that Kubrick seems to favor as
well as bappho mat pose. Isn't it interesting that there
is a baphomet pose going on there? See that as
a butt right, So if you would like more of
this kind of analysis, you can read Esoteric Hollywood. Now
let's move to doctor Sleep. Been rambling for a long time,
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Thank you for those super chats. Guys, they are welcomed.
Hopefully you're learning. We're doing what we do, analyzing culture,
analyzing film, analyzing literature. By the way, this week also
we'll have a analysis of Fahrenheit four fifty one. I
finally did fah fourty one. You so, now wait a minute, Jay,
you never read fair enough for fifty one. No, I
didn't because in high school I was chasing booty girls,
not dudes. And I didn't care about doing my homework,
So I didn't do my homework in high school. All
I did was chase women in high school. So no,
I didn't read Ford at four fifty one. Now I
have it, got me A fiance ain't got to be
chasing chicks. No more. Doctor sleep. Sleep is death. I
knew right away this is about the dead. Obviously in literature,
what is sleep often a signifier of it's death? What
is the New Testament called death sleep? And it begins
flying in from above just like the shining spoiler alerts.
If you're not seeing doctor Sleep, we will be spoiling
doctor Sleep. But dude, doctor sleep is like doctor Epstein
meets Jimmy Sable. I mean it meets David Ike.
Speaker 3: Like doctor Sleep is cheata Ohrie with the date with
David Elkin, the cheata Ouhrie Mike, the cheata ouhi oh Real,
the Nephilim, the cheeta Orie.
Speaker 1: So uh, let's see. We go to nineteen eighties Florida,
not too far from me. Nineteen eighties Florida, just down
the road bright there. The boomers are right over there,
still living in nineteen eighty Florida. And we see a
little girl wandering over to talk to this band of
miscreants who live in a sort of nomadic gypsy lifestyle
in a trailer, an RV trailer. But they're well dressed,
well dressed group of I'm kind of like circus performer
type people. Almost. By the way, did you notice that
it's the giant from Twin Peaks? Did you notice the
twin peaks. Giant is the tall dude in this Motley
coven here, And again I have not read this book,
but I'm like, oh, so this is just a coven
and it's not thirteen people, it's how many they have?
Seven or nine people? I don't remember seven people. I
think eight people, I don't know. But they are run
by a evil woman named Rose, and Rose is the
femme fatale evil witch. They're like vampire witches. Kind of
have you read that? You know what? It reminded me
of that Anne Rice book Tautos? Have you read Taultos?
Kind of reminded me of that. I'm not a huge
an Rice. I mean, I've read some in Rice books,
but that's just what popped in the I have when
I'm watching this. And of course, as I mentioned in,
I'm pretty sure some of you Stephen fans King fans
will know. Isn't there a Rose something? There's something to
do with the Rose rosicruci in relationship to the Dark Tower,
but I can't remember, Well, her name's Rose, Rose, Violet.
We're so we've got Flower imagery here, Rosicrution, Rose kidnaps Violet.
So we start off very creepy and dark. Uh. And
right away we know why she kidnaps Violet because she
wants to take Violet's magic essence. So this is a
human sacrifice adrenochrome magic human cannibal cult. That's not just human,
they're also sort of demonic. They're like demi god statu.
It's a yeah, it's kind of vampire. You get you
get extended life through this methodology of ingesting the essence
of the youth. You don't get eternal life, but you
also get heightened powers, right like you if you have
the power, like if certain people have different clairvoint gifts,
Rose can actually project the head which bitch, the hispanic dude,
what can he do? I forget what his is? He
can do something. I forgot what he can He's a crow.
He can see fly around like a crow or something.
I don't know. The doll faced street walker girl that
they recruit into the she can influence you with her voice. Yeah.
So people have different gifts and proclivity. Some people have
more clairvoyant powers than others in different areas. But the
head of the group is Rose, and we learn right
away that this is some dark stuff and it's totally
like straight up black magic sorcery stuff. Then we flash
to Danny and the evil spirits feeding on We start
to figure out that the evil spirits feed on the
energy of the living, emotional energy, fear, et cetera. That
is the plot of Twin Peaks, That is what Bob's
garmin bosia is. The demons feed on a hatred, anger,
and these kind of emotions. So we see what Danny's
up to. Back in nineteen eighty, Danny is figuring out
his powers, but he decides, oh, he's going to suppress
them because it's just too much to deal with Jack's dead.
Danny's mom is traumatized from the whole event, and so
he's still seeing spirits is too much. So flash forward
and Ian McGregor is a drunk bump and he's sleeping
with nasty bar thoughts and stealing money. But he still
has the shining. Even though he's been suppressing and trying
to dull the shining with alcohol, he still speaks to
the Black Dude, remember the the black dude that had
the shining too. He's died, but he still can talk
to Danny. I forget the Black DU's name. The Caretaker
black Guy now enters into the picture of music boxes.
Remember the story this was odd that Epstein that one
of the popes lent This is what Epstein claimed in
Vanity Fair. I shared it on my Twitter and on
my Instagram. It doesn't say which pope, but Epstein claims
that the pope lent him his own personal interior designer,
so that Epstein could make one of his houses the
interior condo or whatever it looked like a music box,
which presumably would relate to mynd control. You do see
the music box popping up in my canal related culture,
arts and aesthetics, so that could be relevant to anything
kind of significant to kids. But Danny apparently has the
ability to trap the spirits in music boxes or little
they're little I don't know, maybe they're not music boxes.
I don't know what they are. They're like little I
don't know, decorative boxes. And so Danny can trap the
spirits in those boxes. So he's basically like a mental
ghost hunter. And these are ghost traps like in ghost posters,
but they're the spirits are demons. Basically, I don't know
whether there are spirits of the dead or demons. They
kind of I mean that's very clear in Doctor sleep Right.
The spirits of the overlook their demons, dude, because they
feast on you when you start to pass away, they
eat your salt. So these demons and quasi demonic demonified
humans instead of instead of deified or theosis, these are
deified by the demons humans in these cults, they feed
on the spirits of the kids. And it's actually made
clear that the I'll skip that part because it probably
can't be spoken of on YouTube, but there's a there's
a scene where they kidnap somebody, a kid who plays baseball.
That's very gruesome. I will warn you this movie has
it doesn't directly show it, but even what it implies
it's pretty rough. And they even kind of make it
clear that the cult wants the fear to release the
adrenaline into the blood. Now they don't. The cult doesn't
like drink the blood. It's they it's hard to explain.
They inhale the essence of the person. The person exhales
as they're passing away, which I think is supposed to
stand for signify basically what these kind of crazy cults do.
So there's nine of them. I think I said seven.
I think there's nine. Nine is an occult ritual number.
Obviously the gypsy witches slash vampires. They initiate you through
a death resurrection ritual. Shocker, they give you, I think
a new name, doesn't don't they give new names. I
can't remember. But when they induct that a girl who's
the hooker they go, they put her through the initiation.
It's also kind of you get the impression it's hallucinogenic.
She goes into a decessitative state, she's terrorized, like she's,
you know, having a bad trip. So that was all
kind of pretty revealing, this death initiation of ritual that
seems pretty hallucinogenic. She says, she wakes up and she's like,
you lied to me. It was terrifying. And Rose is like, yeah,
well so what bad people lie? Why did you believe me? Dummy?
And she's like, am I still human? And Roses like
who cares? So it's very anti human attitude. Then they
talk about so there's there's the whole child sacrifice of
bring a chrome thing. Then they talk about taking out
anybody that can posed the threat to them because the
essence of the people that have these kinds of gifts
seems to be more powerful. So it's like they feed
on this and it extends their life, and it's more
powerful the more shining or mystical powers that you have.
So it's kind of like consumerism as the ultimate cannibalism, right,
And that's almost it's kind of hinted at in the
film as well. I'll give this film credit that it's
not just talking about shining demon's stuff. It's also kind
of hinting at critiques of cannibal culture. It's very similar
to Twin Peaks. We even have the giant from Twin
Peaks is one of the members of the coven. Houses
are pictured as psyches. This is something I've talked about
in many my analyzes that there is an an analogy
between the houses of psyche and many doors and rooms
and compartments. Remember when remember that movie house too, the
eighties horror movie. The house contains his trauma. So if
you go into the basement, that's the repressed trauma. This
comes up in a lot of movies. What's that Joe
Dante movie where there's a hole in the basement and
you go down there and the kids find their own trauma.
I always forget the name of this. It's been remade
a couple of times, but Joe Dante movie is pretty good.
House two, same idea. So I think what we got
going on here is that when Rose steps into the
psyche of the New Kid, the Black Girl, it's a
mind palace and she can manipulate she wants to manipulate
the girl's memories and it's like a library. And then
the girl actually traps Rose and she steps into Rose's
mind palace. If you've seen Sherlocke, you know about the
mind palace thing, right, that's actually a renaissance thing, mind pals.
So I think what we're getting at here is Nephilim stuff.
Rose and her crew are kind of like Nephilim, maybe
kind of. I don't know if that's where Stephen King
took it in the story. I don't know, but parasitic,
quasi human, half human, almost demi god creatures who feed
on humans, demand human So if you've read the Book
of Meaning, that's what they say. The the Nephilim did
was they demanded human sacrifice. And then there's a very
revealing line from you McGregor. I think at one point
or so, one of the characters like You're not dealing
with a band of Burning Man because they look like
people who'd be at Burning Man, like a bunch of
weirdo's and an RV at Burning Man. That's what Rose's
crew looks like. But they're actually very well connected, elite
cult psychopaths. They are illuminating firm, and that's what you
and Gregor, You and McGregor says. At one point, Danny says,
you're not dealing with normal people here. This is like
the level this is. Remember when Tom Cruise stumbles into
the party and he's like, whoa, I'm not just dealing
with like people that are into sex parties. I'm dealing
with people that have the capabilities at their disposal of
an intelligence agency, Like they can get rid of me,
they can run fake news stories, they can do whatever
they want. And that's kind of what we get from
the U McGregor court. He's like, this is this is
these people are loaded. Roses RV has a giant hot
tub in it, like the richest festival chick ever, Like
the richest hippie festival chick ever, like the queen of
all festival Burning Man witches. She's got a giant zillion
dollar RV with a hot tub in it, and they
have this very it's not just they have a very
Laurel Canyon burning Man bohemian element to them. This whole
crew here, I mean, they're very sixties counterculture. Rosees wearing
like the bohemian Rose looks like she would have been
at the Paramount Ranch when I spoke there earlier this summer,
previous summer, when I did when we filmed that Sizzle
Real and then when I spoke right before Paramount Rats burned.
There's there's all the rich hippie girls. That's what Rose looked,
just like she would be at this event. The only
thing that bugged me about this movie. And I guess
maybe Jack Nicholson has a trademark on his face or something.
I don't know. If they're gonna do the CGI, make
Linda Hamilton, Linda Hamilman look like she's twenty again, make
Arnold look like he's twenty five. Why didn't they just
CGI Danny and Jack Nicholson. I don't know that for
some reason they chose not to. So they got this
dude that looks like Jack Black, and I'm like, that's
Jack Black, That's not Jack Nicholson. I mean, that's it works.
It's still you know, the gold Room looks just like
the Gold Room. But I'm like, he's supposed to be
talking to his dad, Jack Nichol, and he's talking to
Jack Black. It's not Jack Black, but he looks like
I don't know. I didn't care for that part. And
the woman didn't look like Shelley long excuse me, h,
Shelley Duvall Shelley. She didn't look like Shelley. Let's see
passes his test of temptation. The maze comes back. They
try to trap Rose in the maze and that doesn't work.
I did like that part. That was a very interesting
way to do a twist because you think that Rose
is going to be trapped. They had this pretty clever
way to bait Rose. I thought that was pretty good.
It was a good story, good plot. I was impressed
with the movie overall, given that I had very low expectations.
I thought this is going to be stupid, It's going
to be X Men. It was way darker than I thought.
It wasn't x Men.
Speaker 5: It was.
Speaker 1: Pretty much in the vein of what I would have
expected a Shining sequel to be. It was a little
more like ghosts. It was more I mean, it wasn't goofy,
there was no it was like a dark Ghostbusters like
they're trying to trap these ghosts in boxes. And it
reveals that the elite are everything that we think. So
in that sense, yeah, it kind of falls along with
the rest of the Kubrick ethos. One thing I don't understand.
Maybe you guys would know. I don't understand how if
if King Stephen King didn't like Stanley Kubrick's thing, how
did this project go forward? I guess just that fettie,
that green, that chop. But so there we go. Once again,
my shining analysis totally confirmed by doctor Sleep. Do I
recommend doctor Sleep? I recommend doctor Sleep because once again
Hollywood is revealing to us what really goes on. It's
so in your face and blatant that most people will
not think that this is even possible. Yes, it's cooked
up with some of the ooh ghosts and vampires. That's
metaphorical for the degeneracy of the elite. I don't think
there's real vampires who've been walking around for eight hundred years,
like Rose or whatever. But there are real cults and covens,
and they really do do this kind of stuff, and
some of them are very rich and some of them
are very powerful, and so should it be seen, Yes,
in the same way that Eyes Wise Chut should be
seen with caution. And I mean, there's nothing sexually gross
in this movie, but that part with the kid is
pretty rough, so I would exercise caution and watch. That
was pretty disturbing at one part, but the rest of
us not disturbing. The rest of it looks I mean
even the part when they're killing Roses Coven. I was like,
this looks like Buffy the Vampire Slayer. They just turn
into dust. It's like nineteen ninety seven CGI dust skeletons.
That was a little weak, but overall is it worth seeing, Yes,
it is. It is worthying. It's anywhere near as good
as The Shining, just on a movie technical level, but
it was entertaining. It was a decent attempt at it.
And the final scene spoiler alert, what's the boiler room?
It produces the steam for the overlook. The steam the essence,
the energy that's pumping the it's the heart of the overlook. Basically,
that's the analogy for the heart and the steam.
Speaker 2: That the.
Speaker 1: Vampire, which Illuminati cult is ingesting, and they call it steam,
like we need more steam we get like the Peter Gabrils,
I need steam, right, So the essence of the sacrifices
that they ingest, they call it steam. And that's why
at the end Danny grown up. Danny destroys the boiler room.
Not the boiler room with me and Hestern Sport interesting,
the boiler room of the Overlook. And so then the
Overlook burns down and we have the victory over this
demonic entity and power and force of the Overlook Hotel.
So there we go. And then the Black Girl, who
has the most shining the powers, she imprisons. It ends
with her imprisoning a ghost in a box. So Danny
is now dead, but he talks to the Black Chick
and he tells her how to imprison ghosts in the
boxes in the Ghostbusters ghost traps. So there we go.
Somebody said they were bored. I wasn't bored because I was, well,
I mean, really, I'm a Kubrick fan, so I've watched
The Shining many times. I was very interested to see
where they would take it. And there was so much
of the real esoteric stuff in there. Yeah, mixed with
the goofy that I wasn't bored, but super chat Tom.
Let's go to Moses D. New member. Thank you, Moses D.
Much appreciated for that silver membership up. Jackson Rapper five dollars.
Thank you. You and Owen Benjamin helped me find God.
That's good to hear. You should reach out to Vox
about unauthorized TV. I emailed Vox today because I found
his gamma analysis so penetrating. So I would actually love
to discuss the gamma proclivities and disposition if he would
like to discuss that. Eric S five dollars Canadian. Do
you have any thoughts on Nick Quentes. That is crazy,
As you guys know, I don't really care about politics,
so I like to see people upset the establishment. I
don't know what it will accomplish, except that I do
think it's good to get rid of these phony conservatives
because but at the same time it's like we they're like,
we support Trump and then they're questioning Don Junior, which
I don't I don't care if they do that, but
why are you supporting Trump? That's I don't really understand.
I mean, I guess to have a leverage or a
foothold to say we still have a mainstream appeal to
the popularity of Trump. I mean, I guess tactically I
get it, but I think the problem that I would
have is I just don't see much hope in America.
So championing America first is it's just not a thing.
I mean, championing America first does that include I know
that in Knick's personal case, it doesn't include regime changes.
Speaker 2: But.
Speaker 1: Does it include me going along with all the CIA
cus and regime changes? I mean, I know that. Again,
I know that his position is not and I appreciate that.
I think the questions are funny that they posed, but
I kind of think we're past the point of trolling
these kind of people. Remember in the town halls, Remember
back in the town hall because I was woke on
politics and I was very interested in being active in
the political scene. In two thousand and three, four five,
I used to be involved in the you know, the
campus stuff, and I would hand out DVDs and we
would play woke, you know, conservative films, and we would
support that on campus. And eventually, of course the campush
it down and so so I'm not I used to
do this stuff when I was next age. I totally
get it. I just think as you get older, you
kind of like there's prior issues that I would deal with.
In terms of people's world views, I'm much more concerned
with saying I don't care about the whole political scene
and changing minds on the stuff that I talk about.
But now people want to do politics, I don't really care.
I'm a problem with it doing the political stuff. I
mean that's Nick. Nick is a politics guy. He does
a political stuff. I like that he is going at
people who have targeted the stuff I do. Remember when
what WordPress did to me. Remember that now, I've never
figured out exactly who what kind of people. I think
it was more of the left wing people that did
the word press thing to me. But I have had
people older than the twenty eleven period do things to
me to try to ruin me. So I if you
try to ruin people and you try to destroy their
lives and you keep doing this, you're going to hurt yourself.
It's going to come back around on you, and so
I love to see it when you're gonna get your due.
If you keep doing this stuff to people, trying to
ruin their lives, trying to get them killed, trying to
get them docked, trying to make threats. I mean enough
people are going to eventually not put up with it.
And if you've had it happen to you, I've had
it happen to me, not just WordPress but other issues
in the past. You know it starts. You're eventually going
to piss off too many people, but they don't have
any choice, like they've already doubled down and they're set
to go down that route. So I appreciate the trolling
and I appreciate the debating, but I guess what I'm
starting to realize, and this is not about America First
or any of that stuff, just the attitude of people
in general. People are are moving beyond being able to
handle debates. I mean, look at the reaction of all
these people. What do they do. They immediately wanted to
ban and shut everybody down. Oh so you're fake, just
like everybody said you were, and you don't actually support
any of the stuff that you claim support. But we
knew that, right, But this is great to demonstrate that.
But what I'm saying is, let's say we dismantled all
of the Neocon Rhino, fake conservatism. All that's dismantled. The
establishment will create a new organization. I'm not talking about Nick,
I'm not saying I'm saying what the what the response
will be because I've seen this for years. I've been
watching and involved in this kind of stuff since two
thousand and three. What they'll do is they will pick
a Actually two thousand and one, I got into politics
from a Calvinist pastor who was a libertarian conservative, big
fan of Gary North Lou Rockwell, so I've actually been
involved in this kind of stuff since two thousand, two
thousand and one, prior to two thousand and one. What
the establishment will do is they will they might scrap
Turning Points. And would that be a victory, I guess yeah,
from the from the grouper side, that would be a victory.
But the problem is that there's a lot of young
guys with a lot of energy who are going at
a system that has already dealt with these kinds of disruptions.
And what they'll do is they will put out a
new movement into let's say Turning Points just falls apart,
give them about three years. They will resurrect a new
movement there will be a lot of people in that
movement saying woke, cool, trad things, and then they'll just
gm really gradually slowly stir it into who knows what,
nonsense craziness. And also remember that I'm not talking about
Nick and those people, but remember that saying things and
getting a message out, exposing things, it has an effect.
But the problem is that it doesn't have a long
term effect. And this is what I've noticed is that
because I can think back to many times in the
last since two thousand, two thousand and one of watching
being woke, studying stuff, looking at media, doing a media analysis,
I can think many times when big time exposs came out,
huge expose, just devastating xpos, devastating, devastating event, devastating event,
and it did nothing. Now, did it make some people
mad where there's some people who lost their jobs or
Patsy's got put in jail. Yeah, did it change the
whole system?
Speaker 2: No?
Speaker 1: What is the approach that I do the big picture?
How do we confront the big picture? Well, it's going
to be in my view through my job. My goal
is to alter people's fundamental paradigms so that they can
reconsider on a bigger, grander scale. That's what I'm trying
to do. I'm very realistic that we're We're not going
to have a Byzantine empire in America, of course not.
I know that could America conceivably become religiously conservative place.
Maybe that's possible. I mean anything, the last several years
has shown me that anything is possible, So I don't
know what to expect. I want to see the ideas
that I believe in expanded. I think a lot of
those people are a complete waste of time. I'm talking
about the phony, fake conservative people like I. That's a
total waste of time. All of those people calling them out.
That's great, that's awesome. I mean, hey, we've trolled. We've
done some pretty epic trolling. So I applaud the trolling.
I think it is having a tremendous effect. I want
to see it have an actual effective change, but I
don't know if it actually will, so it remains to
be seen. I know that I'm not talking about Nick,
but I know that a lot of the right wing
trad decide of the Catholic world. They absolutely hate Jay's analysis,
So in that regard, I'm their number one enemy, not
because of the politics stuff, but because of you know,
our adamant opposition to Francis in Roman Catholicism. So it's
very difficult to you know, see on the same page
in terms of ideology, even though there might be even
though we might agree these conservatives are a joke. I mean,
give me a break, like you'll, you'll field questions from
the most degenerate idiots. This is my complaint about a
lot of the so called own those libs. Dude, own, No,
we own those libs man. Yeah, because you're debating the
most low IQ social justice warrior out there, and you
just control the debate by not having a real debate.
Those people are never going to have a real debate.
They're never going to Why do you think most people
won't debate me? Because they don't want to lose. They
don't care about winning or knowing the truth? Well, I
mean they care about winning, they don't care about what's true.
And so anyway, I'm rambling on this a lot of stuff.
I think the trolling is hilarious. I mean, these people,
I love seeing these people shake. Is it going to
accomplish a whole lot? I don't think so, But it
remains to be seen, and we'll see how Jay is
Jack a failed writer that develops Cavin fever and goes nuts. Yes,
but he goes nuts because the temptation is that he
wants to be in the elite and he's got Cavin.
But he's already exhibited the signs of abuse because he's
already abused Danny. And yes, he has taken out some
of that anger and hatred, as you said, because he's
a filled writer. Vladiro ten Canadian, thank you for putting
up with all of this and always delivering. You're welcome, bro.
By the way, what is your opinion on hacking the headlines?
Don't know who she is, never heard of it. She's interesting,
but her Protestant theology is unfortunate for a lack of
a better word. Uh, yeah, I've never heard of it.
Don't know of her, so I can't comment on her analysis.
But if she's Protestant, there will probably be some pretty
significant defects that I would disagree with. But I'd have
to check out some of her videos. But thank you
for that, Vloodi Ro Maybe after this I'll check him out.
Elvis Oxford five, are you already the Countess thank you
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is doctor Sleep King as an artist tapping into is
doctor Sleep in Doctor Sleep? I think you meant is
King as an artist tapping into headlines to symbolically emulate
modern horrors, or as King as a cultural predictive programmer
preparing the public for child sacrifice or both? A good question.
This came up on Temple Hat yesterday with Sam Tripley.
Shout out to Sam Tripley, thank you so much for
having me back on We got a Banger episode coming
out Friday. I don't know. Somebody asked that on Temple Hat,
and I don't know if he is tapping into headlines.
I would tend to suspect that. I mean, Stephen King's
been talking about this stuff for a long time. It
I think maybe I don't know. I'm dubious. Tyler Hainey
five bucks, Hi, new subscriber, what are your thoughts on
that topic? That topic and that topic and relationship to Yeah,
so those are topics that will probably not be able
to talk about on just even talking about them can
get the entire super chat taken away. So I would
say read the Russian Church statement on Church and nation
because I am I do attend to Russians our church,
and so I agree with the Russian Church's statement on
the relationship between church and nation. You can find that
at most pott r U Church and nation. So that's
my view. All right, let's lost my place raffling stakes
five books. What's Nicks fading this? I mean, they're probably
going to try what they did to Alex They're going
to do They're going to try to do that there.
I don't know if they'll do that. I mean, but
they want to do this to everybody. Right, it's coming
for all of us do and it's not just coming
for the political people after the politics sphere. It's going
to be did you make a mean statement on Twitter
five years ago? Uh uh m hmm. You're band for whatever,
You're punished And this is eventually going to spill over
into we've already been seeing this. I mean, wake up people.
The real threat is technocracy. That's what I'm here to
tell you. That's what I've been talking about for a
long time. That's why we did the Globalism books talk
to prove that that's the plan. And now as the
plan comes into fruition, people are still acting like I'm
a dumb, a crazy conspiracy theorists, even though I've been
here talking about it for a long time and I've
read countless books on the topic from the top of leek,
and people don't listen and they get there, they're more
interested in being envious of me and having success than
they are taking precaution and getting prepared for what's coming
down the road. And that's really sad for those people.
So who knows. We know that the the lamestream media
outlets are trying to get him and everybody else the platform.
They're not gonna start with Nick, They're gonna start They're
gonna do everybody. So will that be successful. I'm kind
of surprised they didn't. They tried to go for the
Twitter right and then they I mean, I don't know,
but my advice would be, dude, that trad Catholic stuff.
Francis ain't your friend, dude, that's my message. Frank is
not your friend. And if you can't if a pacha
mama idol, a human sacrifice idol and the Vatican being okay,
with Moloch mean put up in Rome. If those things
don't wake you up to the fact that the Roman
Catholic Church is not the true Church, then there's nothing
else that will wake you up. That's my message on that.
I'm more interested in people's spiritual belief in their theology
than the politics. I'm not saying politics doesn't matter. You
can't be spiritually good with Jesus and then believe crazy
stuff in the political realm. No, that doesn't make any sense.
But what you start with is not the political but
the spiritual. Joseph curR of five bucks. So, but I mean,
you probably could have guessed that anyway. What are we
here doing all the time. We want to convert people
to Orthodoxy. We want to convert realm. We convert Roman
Catholics every day to Orthodoxy. That's why they're so mad.
We converted one of the big set of a conscious guys,
two of them, and that's why a lot of them
are really mad. You know, maybe how many Seminarians we've
converted A lot. That's why they're mad and furious, and
the Pope blesses a human sacrifice idol and they're mad
at me. I think you need to reorient things. Does
a curve of five bucks think you does a grit
buy or wise fifteen bucks? The left right paradigm is
a tool for leek control. But what is the correct paradigm?
True and false, not left and right? True and false
in an orthodox theocratic monarchy, Yes, that would be the
best paradigm, because that is the paradigm that existed in
the Church for millennia and been blessed in many, many,
many coronation ceremonies. It's not coming back anytime soon, but
that's okay. We don't have to have a perfect political
system to exist. That's why the Church existed for three
hundred years before it began to make converts in the
realm of the Roman imperium. So that's that's okay. If
God puts us through a chastisement period of no political
influence and power for the next three hundred years, then
so be it. Maybe that's a good thing to shift,
sift the wheat from the chaff. And I assure you
that in the realm of the Ukrainian schism, all u
clowns that support the Ukrainian schismatic ecumenists are going to
be sifted. You are the chaff that's going to get
sifted because your crew is already doing ecumenical ceremonies, and
the ecumenical ceremonies that you're uniting yourself with are Francis
and his crew, And Francis and his crew are blessing
Pacha MoMA, the human sacrifice idol. So you will remove
yourselves from the church into ridiculous heresies and stupidity, idolatry,
and nonsense, thus proving my analysis in what I have
said for many years, even before I was convinced of Orthodoxy,
even before I knew, I could tell you those clowns
were bad news. I knew Ecumenism was bad news fifteen
years ago. So what I consider a lecture series on
the topic I've done. I've done a lecture on church
and state relations. I mean, Orthodoxy has centuries of church
and state relations. I'm not being mean to you. I'm
just saying I have lectures on that. Listen to the
church and state Byzantine symphonia talk. Now, is that relevant
to today's politics? Not really. But in scripture there's examples
where people put political stuff above the spiritual and God
actually bukes people for that. People get rebuked for being
more concerned with the temple and rebuilding the Wall of
Nehemiah and making political alliances with Egypt, and God says repent.
You're focusing on all this political stuff. You get the
heart part right, the theology part right first. The rest
of the stuff will flow from that. So that's my answer.
Josh five bucks, Jay, what's going on with the patriarch
of Alexandria. Do you have any thoughts? Well, this is sad. Also,
do you like business chant or choir music? Totally? Like
Byzantine chant. I don't care for choir music. I'm always
playing in business chant. I do like some of the
Russian choir music, but like the Alilijah the Bridegroom, that's
one of my favorites. Yeah, I mean this shows that
I was right, because why else would that guy flip overnight?
If there wasn't some threat, some warning of not getting
funds anymore from the US government through whatever foreign EID
offices the money goes to them, or they have compromised information,
why else would people change their mind overnight? Oh? Well,
because everything that I tell you about how the world
really works is actually true, And I've been telling you
that for a long time and all the Epstein stuff
proves it, and yet still people want to fight and
oppose me. Who's your favorite philosopher? Three dollars Moses and Jesus.
How's that? But thank you for that, Tyler Hani. I
don't really care the secular philosophers to us, whether it's
Plato or Aristotle, they're secular. I mean they have insights.
But Jai Air Bear ten Canadian, heyj I was born
and raised in a as an Irish Catholic and I'm
looking at converted to Orthodoxy. I'm in a small city
that only has two Orthodox churches. Yes, preferably you should
find that the Russian Romanian, Serbian Antiochian over the Greek
Orthodox archdiocese. We are not presently in communion with the
Greek churches because of these issues. So you want to
try to hopefully find churches in those jurisdictions and hopefully
that is helpable, helpful there. Jayer Beer Jay Bear All right,
great show tonight, guys. I know we went long. I
might clip that first part because I was talking about
the philosophy of debate for like thirty minutes. I might
clip that and put that as some other thing so
that people who in the future come to this discussion
are not misled and one are like, why is this
guy talking about debate for thirty minutes and he's not
talking about the move. Make Vindicator in an eighties retro
shirt so I can buy it before gone. That's a
great idea. Why don't you guys start making it. You
don't have to wait for me. Maybe give me a cut.
You can make James Nilllison's T shirts. Give me a
little cut, you know what I'm saying. I need to
make some. I was gonna make some like six months ago,
and I called the dude and he was like, yeah,
send me an email of your images, and then he
never emailed me back. I'm like, you don't want business.
I guess not. So then I forgot and I never
did it again. I can't there's too much stuff to do.
I can't handle all this stuff. But we will have
jas Nallis's T shirts. I've got my Sunny Wire T
shirt on right now. So shout out Sunday Wire, Patrick
henningson doing that great bazed political work. Shout out to
the boiler Room every Thursday night. Hopefully we can be
back to doing the boiler Room soon. We do have
Thursday though, because again scheduling issues, we are going to
try to do myself. Tristan and Father Deacon doctor ennaias
a discussion on diet, philosophy, worldview, health, diet, carnivore, what
about that and orthodoxy. That question comes up every day
so many times that we thought we would just do
a stream, and I think that'll be a good one
if we can get the stuff to work and the
OBS not crash now. OBS it crashed for me today twice.
It's working now, but anytime I try to pipe in
other guests on OBS, it crashes. So I don't know
what to do. Thank you, Gretchen Ye. I was on
with Gon's shout out to Face like the Sun. Shout
out to Gonz, Shout out Canary Kray Radio, great interview.
Shout out to kJ. kJ was right. He said months
ago that what was coming on YouTube is now in
the news, so kJ was right about that. Shout out kJ.
Shout out to true stream media. I don't do shout out.
I should do more shout outs. I just forget. Shout
out to who else. Shout out to Sam Tripoli for
having me on this week. I'm very, very thankful. Look
for the Dawson debate first week of December. By the way,
isn't that great to do? Remember blood sports? The great
thing about blood sports was that you got used to
being called names. Remember that that was so much It
was so much better to do that, even than to
have these evangelicfish tone police things where they're going to
try to boot you over a mean word. Get over it, dude,
grow up. Shout a shout out to Jim Bob, Shout
out to Owen Cyclops. Shout out to Sam Hide and
uh Gota Main. Shout out Sam Hi, Gota Main, I
got that beautiful Sam Hide. Bag them Sam Hide, boochie fashions? Baby?
Who else? Who else? Our Buddies' I forgett anybody? If
I'm forgetting anybody, please forgive me. I'm sorry. I'm not
trying to be forgetful anyway. Who do y'all want to
see come back on next? Tell me in the chat
who is your favorite guests? I'd love to. I mean,
I keep I keep telling Guta Main, let's let's do something.
I think maybe eventually he will shout out ruche shout out.
Got to give him a copy of Father seffrom Rose's
book on nihilism. It's a powerful testimony he gave gave
about Christ, his conversion to Christ. Had a great talk
with him. Shout out medium monarchy. Yep, we love James
Evan Plotto. We got much much love for James V. Plot.
No hate for James M. Plato. You want me to
try to get James Evan Plato back on? Well, we
always got shows with Tristan going. Benny Wells. Yeah, Benny
just got married, so shout out Benny Wills. So he's
probably enjoying that married life. kJ. We talked about doing
a new stream. We'll see what kJ wants to do.
Who else you guys, wants you next? Chris Pratt? I
don't think Chris, I don't think. I think Chris Pratt
is a little a little out of my league. I'm
almost as famous as Chris Pratt, but I think he's
a little bit out of my lif Mister Joatris. Yes,
we'll get mister Joatrice back. Who else you want to see? kJ?
We got some kj's, We got some jiatresses. You don't
have to worry about truck Tristan's. Tristan's a recurring guest.
You don't have to recrec. We're gonna be with him Thursday. Oh,
I'm sorry, I missed email syric. I'm sorry. Email for
twenty bucks, he says. By the way, keep telling me
who you want to come on next. Email says do
you think that there's a connection between the israel selection
of the king, exalting of one tribe, and the papacy. Yes,
because I do think that the Frankish thesis is correct.
Both the exaltation of one tribe over another with Benjamin
and then Judah and one apostle leads to a split.
There is an analogy. I mean, we can't press the
Old Testament split between Northern and Southern Israel too hard
to the split between the East and West and the Church.
You can make an analogy, you can't press it too
hard because the Church is fundamentally a more powerful unit
of institution than Old Testament Israel. So ultimately Ariel is
the type of the Church. Yes, and the split between
the northern tribes and the southern kingdom of Judah is
an analogy to what happens in the Church. But the Church.
The difference is that Israel could lose its unity and
be split. The fundamental constitution of the Church can never
lose its visible unity. It will always be one Holy
cathing Apostolic. Even if that is that number is in
the minority, like in the Aryan crisis, it will always
still be one Holy cathing Apostolic. Typically numbers are there,
they're irrelevant, they're not the ultimate determiner, but they do
in many periods have a significance. Hence, why Augustine could
argue to the Donatus, how are you the Catholic Church
when you're shut up and you know, the northern corner
of Africa, Right, you can't be the true Church and
everybody else older sacraments are dead and there's no grace. Right.
That's a that's a true basic argument against the Donatus.
Speaker 5: Right.
Speaker 1: But conceivably could there be a massed apostasy, Yeah, it's
conceivably that can happen. Yeah, it happened in the Aaron crisis.
But I would just I just wouldn't press the analogy
between the division of the tribes in Israel too hard
because of the fact that this is pre Pentecost, so
after Pentecost, the promise the spirit of the Church guides
the church to never lose that fundamental unity and hence
Jesus can say Matthew sixteen at the Gates of Hell
won't prevail against the Church. So who else you guys
want to see? Who do we say? Jamie DeLux? I
don't know Jamie Deluxe. Yeah, Actually, Jamie will be coming
back to discuss a globalism book. My fiance, My beautiful fiance.
Jamie read one of the globalism books and she found
one in her book Stacks that I did not know about.
Did you know? H? G. Wells has a weird book
called God the Invisible King, where.
Speaker 4: H. G.
Speaker 1: Wells describes his goofy, weird deistic Masonic sort of sort
of theology, his like quasi pre New Age Masonic deistic
theology he has. He has a generic deistic natural theology.
But it's interesting because it does relate to the New
World Order. So actually, in the next few days, Jamie
will also be joining me to do one of the
globalism books, so she will be coming back. Father ban
I don't know who Father Bailey is. Yes, I do
want Patrick to come back on actually to