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Verse Podcast. I am one of your hosts, the Crutch
Taylor Field that I'm joined by.
Speaker 2: I'm the council member Batzer.
Speaker 1: Yes, and we are here continuing our trek through the
post apocalyptic quarantine zone whatever you want to call it.
Speaker 3: Of Last of Us Season two, episode three.
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Speaker 3: But yeah, like I said, what we got popping off?
Speaker 1: We have done Mission Impossible retros that are popping off
on the patron right now, and the celebration of the
Final Reckoning. I did a side quest last week where
me and Dylan covered Oblivion and the Nintendo switch to
and then we did an after nine watch along you
and Me and Travis and Dylan.
Speaker 3: That was a lot of fun. And then Travis has
a side quest tomorrow will we drop in I guess
Tuesday or something like that, And then what else is cooking?
What do we got going on?
Speaker 2: We got and or reviews coming? Oh yes, it's the
week of Thunderbolts, which still doesn't feel real to me,
even though I have my tickets. It feels like it's
just totally sneaking up on me like a ghost.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 2: I mean, I feel like you already got the big
one Sinner's reviews on the feeds, so go check that out.
Got a couple other movies coming out here pretty soon.
But yeah, lots of reviews, lots are just usual stuff.
We got a week weekly Geek this week. I think
that's me and Dylan, the Whalers coming together. So yeah, Whalers,
keep your eyes on the feeds, you know, because.
Speaker 3: You mentioned and I'm just I'm just gonna say it.
Speaker 1: Because Star Wars Rent of the Sith is in theaters
until Wednesday.
Speaker 3: Here, I think you you should, you should go see it.
Speaker 2: I did not get outside that I had too many
You episodes to watch right here.
Speaker 1: Yeah, which I guess there there will be a You
season five fin oat final review coming out on our feeds.
Speaker 3: But yeah, you should definitely go see it.
Speaker 1: Watching Revenge in the theaters, like Order sixty six, I
had tears and like the intro, I had goosebumps. I
could feel it multiple sequences, just goosebumps. Like I think, Uh,
I think it will reinvigorate your love for Star Wars
and you'll just you'll just you'll be oh.
Speaker 2: My doors only doing that. So it might be a
good time.
Speaker 1: To stack oh oh yeah, I mean corn buckets, no,
no popcorn pockets, nothing fancy. But we did get a popcorn,
We did get drinks and all that and just regular Yeah,
because it's you're in there for two and a half
hours and it's yeah, damn good time.
Speaker 2: Oh hell, Yeah, I'm glad you enjoyed it, and that's awesome.
Speaker 3: Yeah, but anyways, ask for damn good times? How how
is this? Was this a damn good time or damn
bad time for you? Kirkland?
Speaker 2: I think this is a pretty damn good time. Coming
off of last week's episode of course boiler free for
the first little port here, I definitely would have assumed
it would be a slower episode of just picking up
the pieces of the big yeah, just the big house
that came crashing down last week, and it definitely was that.
I think there's some really strong performances in here, and yeah,
just a lot of kind of grieving going on because
of what happened last week. And I think for the
most part, I thought it was done really well. I
think I could have maybe even taken a few more
scenes of certain characters I don't know, interact with each other,
or maybe just longer sequences. They'll maybe highlight what that
is when we get into the spoiler section. But yeah,
I think it was a good episode. I think it
definitely has me excited for what's to come next week.
And it's interesting because I played a little bit of
like the first last of us so in last season,
I feel like I had a somewhat of an idea
for at least part of the season, whereas I feel
like now, I mean more so than I already was
because of a certain thing that already happened. In this season,
I'm completely in the like just in the blind. I
have no idea what's going to be coming, who we're
going to be interacting with. So I am really just
intrigued by where we are, I think by the end
of this episode, and yeah, just kind of where we're
going and yeah, no, I'm ready to kick some ass
with our protagonists here, So yeah, let's do it.
Speaker 3: Well said, yeah, I've played.
Speaker 1: I'm being the first one, but I've played the first one,
and so to make those comparisons in that season.
Speaker 3: To that game, it was, yeah, it was.
Speaker 1: It was easy, and I could kind of predict what
was gonna happen because obviously, like I said, I played
the game. But with this, this is totally unsure waters
And I wasn't here for last week's review, but I
had a hunch and inkling that Joel does die, and
so spoilers, yes, when I get when we watched last
week's episode of that Holy crap.
Speaker 3: Okay, yeah, they went with it.
Speaker 1: I didn't think they're gonna do it that quickly, and
I didn't know at what instance in the game it happens.
Speaker 3: Didn't know if it was in the middle or the
beginning or the end whatnot. But yeah, here we are.
Speaker 1: It happened pretty quickly. And I just don't like Abby.
I think the actress is great, she's doing a fantastic job.
And Abby, it's the character. I just hate her. But
of course there's justification in her actions because her father
was murdered by Joel, so you know.
Speaker 3: Revenge, that kind of stuff. But I think you see
I think you're gonna see the.
Speaker 1: Like a parallel where Abby and Ellie are very similar
but different at the same time. And yeah, you can
see like the people that Joel in retrospect has created
through his actions, and then you're gonna see Ellie is
someone like through also through his actions.
Speaker 3: Like he's he's done bad things.
Speaker 1: But you're gonna get you're gonna see two outcomes and
two different people because of that. You're gonna see Abby
as an outcome of Joel's actions, and you're gonna see
Ellie as an outcome of Joel's actions, and I just
think it's okay.
Speaker 3: It's how he kind of continues on.
Speaker 1: You're gonna see how that is impacting this world still
because of what he's done with.
Speaker 3: These two characters or to these two characters.
Speaker 1: So yeah, I'm I'm really feeling good about this episode.
Like I said, I don't know how it compares to
the game. I don't know what to be expecting now
at this point, and there's a lot that I just
I have questions. I don't know who certain things are,
who certain groups are in this what's going on?
Speaker 2: Really?
Speaker 1: And so I feel like a lost dog with without
a bone, without a leash, no owner, no chip in
my ear.
Speaker 3: I just it's very lost.
Speaker 2: So goes protocol dog version.
Speaker 3: Yeah, that's right.
Speaker 1: So I mean I don't have I won't have the
ability to answer many answers if you have, or answer
any questions that you have.
Speaker 2: Yeah, we'll just speculate today. Yeah, there'll be no answers given.
Speaker 3: To us, That's right. Uh be anything else you want
to drop on spoilers before we crack on?
Speaker 2: Uh No, I don't think so. Yeah, I don't think
there's anything else to really add cool?
Speaker 1: Okay, Well, we're gonna get at it in three two
one after this ad.
Speaker 3: Break and we are back. So where do you want
to start?
Speaker 1: Uh?
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean last week ended very probably the heaviest
moment of the entire series. Of course, you know, the
departure of the great Pedro Pascal in the show, Joel.
I have an inkling that we'll see at least a
like a Joel appearance, whether it's like a flashback or something,
or I don't know, Ellie Seaton Forest ghosts or something
and Joel speaking to her. I'm sure we'll see him
at some point before the show's all all done. But yeah,
he was killed off last week and then entering this one,
of course, it's picking up the pieces from that, and
I would have assumed, you know, for it to be
very heavy. I wasn't disappointed. I think maybe I just
wanted a little bit more of like the grieving, whether
it was a little bit more of like Ellie Dina
like that, like I don't know, just talking about what happened.
We did get it, but I think it was a
little bit shorter, especially because what we were getting on screen.
I really liked it. Like, I just think those two
are fantastic together on screen. So I think I maybe
just would have wanted like a little bit more of
an extended sequence or even like the Tommy stuff. It
seemed like Ellie and him kind of talk like briefly
about it and it's it's all really good. And I
think that just adds to why I wanted it to
be a longer sequence because it was just that great.
But uh yeah, I don't know it did. It's a yeah,
just just great performance by Bella Ramsay of just showing
like the grief when she goes into the closet and
it's kind of just uh yeah, finding his clothes. That
was that was getting me a little choked up. So
I think they they executed that sequence really really well.
And yeah, she she kind of had to just you know,
have her moment of of grievance and then now she's
just uh just just rate a kick ass and get
that revolver into the into the head of Abby. So well, uh,
we'll see what's to come out. How do you feel
that they did with the whole grieving factor, because of
course it's not just Ellie that lost someone, because the
whole town obviously lost a lot of people in the uh,
the infected raid on on the town of Jackson, and
then yeah, just other people that were really fond of
Joel and kind of what his role was in the town.
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's it's it's tough, and the episode definitely feels
empty because Bella Ramsay does a great job at making
it feel.
Speaker 3: Like we've we've lost something.
Speaker 1: Obviously, the presence of Pedro Bascal not being around is
definitely that carries its own weight, but that has sold
even more.
Speaker 3: Because of the acting and the performances by.
Speaker 1: The co cast with Joel's brother, you can feel it
there when Joel's not around, and when Allie goes into
that house, it just feels empty and something's missing there.
And yeah, he just she she takes the watch.
Speaker 3: I think she took the watch, you know, she.
Speaker 1: Was looking at it, but he takes the gun and
just has that moment of weakness where she's holding onto
the the jacket and it just you're looking at her
in the situation and it just it's a moment of
weakness with her, and it's a character that you don't
really see a lot of.
Speaker 3: Weakness emanating off of.
Speaker 1: So it's it's really adding some more depth to her,
and you get.
Speaker 3: A little bit of her just obviously.
Speaker 1: Putting up her shields when she's dealing with Gail and
other characters as well, But it's just that's her classic
defense system. She's becoming a lot more complex, but a
lot more.
Speaker 3: What would be the word for that.
Speaker 1: Well, I like how Joel's brother had put it, you know,
with this conversation with Gail, that they were worried about, oh,
she could be too much like Joel, and it's like, well,
you know, Joel is there ten percent, Like nurturing has
kind of gone off onto her.
Speaker 3: But nature is the other thing. You know.
Speaker 1: You can nurture someone, but nature will kind of dictate
who they become. And I feel like it'll be interesting
to see how Ellie.
Speaker 3: Grows into that a little bit more.
Speaker 1: And I was talking about the non spoilers with Joel's
actions and how it results in Abby and with Ellie,
and well, there's a little bit of that percentage that
it's nurture and the rest is nature. I think that's
where're gonna see Ellie turn into someone who and I
haven't played the game, I'll.
Speaker 3: Reiterate that again, so I don't know what is going
to happen.
Speaker 1: But I'm gonna just, you know, make a guess here
that she's going to make a call similar to what
Joel did and protecting her and saving her, and she'll
do that in another instance that makes her.
Speaker 3: Better than Abby, Yes the doctor, that's right. Yeah, I'll
save them.
Speaker 1: But I think she is just she's really really fantastic,
and I really like getting this little bit of an
adventure with her when they leave town and she's running
off to go do her thing, trying to find the
not the Fireflies anymore, because now they're the WLF, the wolves,
which I don't have any answers about them. I wish
I knew a little bit more about this outfit because
they seem extremely.
Speaker 3: Well armed, oh my goodness.
Speaker 1: So I'd like to know a little bit more about
what they're up to and what they're doing. They just
seem like there are a whole military groups. They don't
seem like they have really anything else, and Seattle just
seems like a complete wasteland. So are they just living
in like run down skyscrapers. They haven't set up any walls,
any perimeters, like what's what's going on? But it also
seems like there's no effected in Seattle too, And obviously
I'm kind of branching off here from from Ellie, so
I won't go too far.
Speaker 2: Right, Yeah, yeah, no, I'm I'm very curious as to
what the whole goal is now, right of the Wolves,
because of course we knew what the Fireflies general goal
was with just the whole cure stuff, but we're beyond that.
So is it just they're preparing for war? Who knows
what's going on? It? It is funny though, because yeah,
I haven't played the game, but just getting introduced to
these like newish factions now with like the Wolves, you
have like the fucking the Jokers out there, with like
the slit cheeks they got they got fucked up pretty easily.
But they just seem like new like enemies you know
that you'd be coming across in your adventure if you're
if you're playing this game, it's like, oh, gotta watch
out for for the for these enemies now. So just
like seeing the little gamisms in there's is fun. But
uh yeah, I know, I uh, I I found it
interesting too. Just finishing off some ally thoughts how they
got her to I don't know, kind of speak up
at the meeting because it just seemed like something that
she like a characteristic that she definitely would never really
be going for. But this is like the most realistic
way to to kind of win the vote of the town,
even though at the end of the day she doesn't
care if nobody's going, she's going. And I liked how
when you know, she kind of gets caught by Dina
when she's trying to sneak out of the town, Dina
not for like a single second was trying to like
convince her to not do it, Like right away she
was she was ready to go with her. I imagine
that's pretty similar to how it goes in the game.
But yeah, no, I I think those two are just
so fantastic together. And I don't know, it really just
maybe shows the uh the level of bonding that obviously
Joel and Ellie had, but also Dina and Joel because
we didn't really get to see a lot of that
on screen. So yeah, I know, I love Dina. She's fantastic.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I agree, she's really really awesome. And again it's
it's a character that I don't know a lot about,
but she's definitely whipping out maps and whipping out all
these details and facts. She can smell when the rain's
coming and and all that.
Speaker 2: So it's got that rain elbow that my mom's got. Yeah,
she's going to rain.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 1: So I'm really I'm really liking her character a lot.
She's she's a lot of fun. And I again, I
didn't know what was gonna happen. I thought she was
gonna die after she was having this kind of like
more intimate connection with with Ellie. I thought that when
the attack happened no before in the last episode. I
thought last episode she was gonna get it. And when
she didn't get it from them, the Clickers, and I
thought for sure she was going to get it when
they were Joel kind of the former Fireflies.
Speaker 2: Beat out of her. Yeah, after killing Joel, you killed
a really bad day for Ellie. If she comes into that.
Speaker 3: That would be, that would be.
Speaker 1: But she's she's definitely a Yeah, she's like a she's
a trooper. She's got all the details, the knowledge, everything
like that. And she's got the contacts because she's got
Life of Crutch there on her payroll to get him
get her all the supplies.
Speaker 2: Right. So yeah, Yeah, the bigot from last week's episode
I think it was last week's episode, or it might
have been the first episode.
Speaker 3: The first episode. Yeah, at the party.
Speaker 2: No, I like that moment when uh again, like just
going back to the town meeting and everybody's kind of
given their their opinion on what's going on. He's just
like calling everybody out. They come in here, they're pissing
in her eye. I like that line that dropped there,
but uh yeah, I know it was an unlikely ally,
but I liked how it kind of worked out and
he gave her, you know, the trade for a much
better right.
Speaker 3: Yeah, it looked so clean.
Speaker 2: It looked like it was right out of like a
fresh gunshot that like it did.
Speaker 3: Yeah, it looked absolutely ment.
Speaker 2: That was like a battle pass rifle he gave her.
It's got a skin on it.
Speaker 1: And everything's right trace her back, yeah, thirty dollars pack. Yeah,
he's definitely kind of turned things around there. And you know,
the enemy of my enemy is my friend, and that's
that's what happens here. That's they were attacked, and so
they're kind of unifying together. And when they did that,
the whole voting thing with the council, I think I
feel like I could pick out which three probably voted
yes for them to go, And wasn't just people.
Speaker 4: For sure, just no, no, no, yeah, he absolutely said no,
he's a by the book character for sure, but everything
in that sequence when yeah tested it up.
Speaker 1: And he was like piston in her eyes and whatnot,
and like at the end of the meeting and everyone's
getting up to leave and he's just sitting there holding
his cane and he's just staring at them, just intimidatingly.
Speaker 2: So but.
Speaker 1: Yeah, well we'll see if he's still around to come
the end of the season, if our two heroes make
it back, which I have no idea if they will,
so true, Yeah, but I'm glad to see the town
is kind of rebuilt and kind of making a comeback.
We had a three month time jump, which was quite
a bit of time.
Speaker 2: But okay, yeah, I missed that detail. I didn't know
what the exact timeframe was. Do you think we're going
to be seeing a lot more of the town or like,
I'm sure we will still see it, just because we
have familiar faces there, like the Tommy's and such, But
I don't know, I can see us maybe spending a
lot more time, which just kind of Seattle. Now, especially
for next week episode, I.
Speaker 1: Don't think we're going to see the town until the
last two maybe real final episode. I think yeah, because
there's no one back on the town that we really
need to go to. I can't see us really needed
to go back to Joel's brother right away.
Speaker 2: Seth his crutch.
Speaker 3: You know they maybe they just like they beat the
shout I'm telling us what you did? Where's where's Ellie?
Speaker 2: They just beat the ship out of the poor guy
with the cane.
Speaker 3: Just waterboarding him and stuff like that. I think you could.
Speaker 1: I think I think Joel's brother, Tommy, I think he
could maybe make an appearance, but not in the town.
I think that he could show up saving Ellie or
like Ellie and you could caught in a situation. But
maybe just maybe because they left, that's going to force
the council's hand to send people to go and save them,
because it's kind of maybe this's a fore shadow because
Tommy said that when Ellie was countering him with the
fact that hey, if you were gone or taken or
whatever out there, like Joel would be leaving immediately to
go and get you. And he's like, yeah, if I
was alive, but if you know, if I was dead, that's.
Speaker 3: A different story. So maybe that's the case here.
Speaker 1: Because Ellie and Dina are out there, it might prompt
them to actually be responsive and send a task force
out to deal with this. I don't know how well
sixteen people are gonna do, though, because these guys have
I don't even know what the vehicles call.
Speaker 3: I don't know if it's like an APC.
Speaker 1: Armor personnel carrier and then like two hum v's and
then they got a whole platoon of soldiers ready to go,
and these guys have military training. We don't know who
the leader is, but it's just it's it's a conflict
that we don't know how that's gonna unfold. Really as well,
maybe we do. It's not gonna go well for our
team in Jackson. I feel like that is evident based
on this. As you said, the Jokers, the little religious
prophetic group that just.
Speaker 3: Got fucking bopped.
Speaker 1: They're whistling didn't save them. So whistling I feel like
as a giveaway more than a save saving grace.
Speaker 2: Whistling, I don't know it's coming over here.
Speaker 3: Let's cool, exactly.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I don't know to add to, Uh, what's it
gonna say? Any anything else in the I don't think
I have anything else really on the town. Do you
feel like I think we see like a I could
see not next week's episode, but like at least the
week after at least like a little check in. I'm
just kind of what's going on because Dina and Ellie also,
like you know, snuck away, So I would imagine we
at least see like the reaction to the Tommy's and
the other people that are in the town.
Speaker 3: The interrogating sets.
Speaker 2: Yeah, maybe Jesse like goes after them or something. I
don't know. He seems pretty castrated though I don't think
he's doing anything.
Speaker 3: He's fuck.
Speaker 2: And then yeah, and then you just mentioned the the Jokers,
that that religious group. I imagine there's more of them
out there or did they just get sand peopled.
Speaker 3: I don't completely. I hope, I hope there's more.
Speaker 1: I would like to learn more about it, but maybe
there really isn't anything else to learn from.
Speaker 2: It be so weird though, to let they have like
this symbol. It's like they never explain why their faces
look like that. They're whistling who this profit is? So
if we just never seen them again. It's like, why
even get introduced to this? So I would imagine we're
gonna see it and then who knows, maybe eventually see
this profit type person, even though he does mention that
she was dead, right, so she's been dead ten years.
Speaker 1: Yeah, so apparently I guess like a profit will appear
every once in a while.
Speaker 3: And I thought they were.
Speaker 1: This guy was kind of foreshadowing, oh this, you know,
my little daughter here is going to become the next
prophet or something like that. But they religiously hold on
to their hammers as weapons.
Speaker 3: They don't seem to use guns of any kind.
Speaker 1: So still probably should have heard group, Probably should have Yeah.
Speaker 2: And then yeah, so was it the wolves that murdered them?
Is that they're because at some point don't they say
there's like there's monsters or yeah.
Speaker 3: The girls like monsters and he's like, worse, it's wolves.
Speaker 2: Yeah, And then I think it transitions to Ellie's drawn
or Dina's drawn photo of the wolf symbol, like that's
the scene like jumps from that to that. That's when
Ellie's doing some boxing with the heavy bag with Jesse there.
So yeah, the wolves, uh, you know, not only tortured
and murdered or are protagonist Joel Miller. But I suppose
he murdered this whole group, including children, which is pretty
fucked up. And we didn't see obviously faces we didn't
see Abby at all in this episode, or I guess
we saw the one chap that got sliced up by
Ellie from last week. He was the guy in the
tower that was kind of on lookout that that's right, Yeah, right,
so he would have been the only member from last
week there. But yeah, I don't know. I'm curious to
see who exactly was directly involved with the the murder
of the Whistlers.
Speaker 1: And I thought he was actually gonna spot Ellie and
Dina when they asked him, like, hey, do a checkout
at Oh yeah, he's a ship talking his boss like
I'm supposed to watch six. Oh it looks over there,
You're all clear, and then just goes back to doing
what he's doing terrible look out.
Speaker 3: Yeah m m hmm. But I don't know what.
Speaker 1: I don't know what to expect next week. I mean,
obviously they're going into Seattle and they're going to be
looking for Abby.
Speaker 3: Do you think we see Abby?
Speaker 2: See Abby next week because we didn't see her at
all this week. I I know she's like you kind
of see a lot of the story through her eyes
in the in the game for part two, So I
am curious how much of that is going to be
uh here in the TV show here of like how
much we're just following her along because yeah, like like
you from last week, I think a lot of people
will feel the same way. I'm not a fan of
the Abby character for what was shown, and I think
it's mostly just because they really set her up to
be like a villain. She has a reason, but I
think the way that it was shown in the TV show,
it's like hard for me to like defend her actions
when she goes as far as she did of like
just torturing this guy as opposed to just quickly murdering
him getting the revenge. Like she just beats the livering,
like literally the life out of him and then goes
for a graphic kill. So I think for what it
was shown in the TV show, I don't really feel
a lot of sympathy for that character, even though I
know that Joel killed her dad. So I'm curious if
the show's gonna be trying to really sell me on
that on why I should be, Yeah, just sympathetic for
the character, because I think for what was shown so far,
they kind of failed at that if that's what we're
going for, because I believe that's kind of how it's
mostly done in the video game. She's shown it little
bit more of a sympathetic light, but yeah, we'll see.
I really love Caitlyn Deaver as an actress. I think
she's fantastic. I think she had a lot of just
juicy showcasing of her ability in last week's episode. So yeah,
I'm curious how I feel like the thing I'm looking
forward to the most is just like the first face
to face between her and Ellie at this point, because
they're both gone through a lot of stuff. People very
close to them straight up father like figure murdered right
in front of them. I guess the doctor wasn't murdered
right in front of her, but you got what I mean.
So I'm really looking forward to that, And I don't know,
I don't think it'll happen next week where they like
are actually interacting with each other, like maybe Ellie sees her,
but they don't actually straight up interact. But yeah, I'm
gonna be looking forward to when that inevitable meetup happens.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm looking forward to it too. It's gonna be
it's gonna be juicy.
Speaker 3: It's gonna be interesting. I had a their point that
I wanted to bring up.
Speaker 2: Shoot, was it on Abby Ellie?
Speaker 3: It was in regards to Ellie. Yes, Okay, that's it.
So after the.
Speaker 1: Fallout of the attack and everything like that, we get
to see Ellie wakes up in the hospital wing and
like everyone's freaking out and screaming. They had tubes connected
to her because I think they were trying to just
like help bring her back, pump some drugs into her.
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, yeahda.
Speaker 1: I first split second thought, okay, like they were taking
blood from her and gonna do like a blood transfusion
and use her blood to help a bunch of other people,
just because they were looking around and trying to they
need to help people. And I was thinking, Man, this
is fucked, because they're gonna be taking her blood, they're
gonna give to like fifty people, and they're on a
tweak out and the clickers and just start killing everyone.
Speaker 3: That was not what happened, well, because.
Speaker 1: She gave her blood to that other boy that got
bit or right a long time ago in season one
and then the boy too. Yeah, right, so there is
that Is that because of the blood or because he
was already infected? I thought he was probably because he's
already infected, But I imagine like her giving him infected.
Speaker 3: Blood doesn't help the case.
Speaker 1: But I mean, I don't know, it's hasn't been since
the size into a cure.
Speaker 3: You're probably right. Yeah, I'm trying to think what else
I have on this episode.
Speaker 2: When they go through the graveyard there, I really like
that sequence. It was just really beautiful shot of just
like the little tall hay fields with like the sunset
or sunrise whatever it was. I like how she gave
him his coffee beans. That was really nice touching moment
just really made me like, I feel like I completely
forgot about like the coffee sequence from season one because
I didn't rewatch these one leading up to this, But
in that moment, it kind of just flashed me back
to when they're in the car together kind of talking
about coffee.
Speaker 1: You know.
Speaker 2: I just again I got a little sentimental just thinking
of like, man, like what they've gone on through to
where they are now it was they still a touching moment.
Speaker 3: Yeah, coffee beans, growing corn.
Speaker 2: You know, it's one guy in the meeting he's like,
I don't have an opinion on the Seattle thing, but uh.
Speaker 1: Should be investing in turkeys instead of turkeys over chickens.
Speaker 2: Yeah, growing corn. Actually, while we're there, that guy, that
guy does not give a fuck about naming what's going on?
Speaker 3: No, no, he's dancing on everyone's graves. He wants to
plant corn over over all the graves. That's what he
wants to do.
Speaker 2: Hear me out. We can use Joel's body its fertilizer for.
Speaker 3: Yeah, oh, do you anything else?
Speaker 2: Gail and Tommy had a little bit of a sit down, Yes,
Gail and Ellie also actually she was kind of a
therapist for a couple other people in the in the sequence.
I just I love this this what's this actress's name again?
I always forget it, But Catherine O'Hara, that's.
Speaker 3: What it is.
Speaker 2: Okay, not Catherine hahn but both equally fantastic. But yeah,
know she's she's just a really like flawed therapist. But
like there's no therapist for the therapists in this world,
so she's just kind of doing what she can. You know,
she's an alcoholic, she smokes weed all the time. She says,
she's just really into this t ball game that's going on.
I don't know, I just found it to be a
fun little sequence. And then I don't know, it was
it was fun to see a little sliver of just
Tommy like kind of thinking about what's been going on.
And I think I could have taken a little bit
of a more of like the grieving Tommy in this moment,
because we did lose Joel here, but I think for
the little scenes that we did get, I did really
enjoy it. And then yeah, the moment between Gail and
Ellie also, I actually really liked because it just seems
like Ellie is always putting on like a face and
like just trying to make it seem like she's tough.
So by the time that we get her alone and
like what we've already talked about, when she is just
going through the house all alone without Joel, it just
seems like it's it's like a volcano that's like finally
erupting where she's just like always been pushing down these
feelings and it just, you know, just bubbled up to
the surface and it just kind of exploded, and that's
when she is fall on in the heavy tears. So yeah,
I thought it was just a good build up to
that moment from from the Gail in her little therapy
session to h yeah, where we get.
Speaker 1: To m Yeah, I agree. Gail has definitely become a good,
good character, reinforcing kind of the thoughts of what our
current characters going through, and like, like I said, already
giving out that really really good line about the nurturing
and the nature when it comes to Ellie and who
she's gonna be as a person.
Speaker 2: Do you think we're gonna get any more Eugene stuff,
because this has been like a I don't know all
the details of the Eugene thing. Joel was forced to
kill this guy, and it just seems like in the
last two episodes we just kept getting like a little
Eugene moment when I think it was Jesse and Ellie
are at that safe house where the weeds being grown
and then she finds like Eugene's I don't know name
tag or something, dog tags, whatever it was. It just
seems like they like keep bouncing up this character. So
I was curious when we were gonna eventually get a
little bit more of an answer on what all the
details were to that. But Joel's gone. Now you know,
we're leaving Jackson. I imagine we're not going to be
seen too much Gail, at least in the next episode.
Speaker 1: So this Eugene character, I don't I have to rewatch
season one.
Speaker 3: I really don't remember.
Speaker 2: I don't even think he's in season one. I think
it was.
Speaker 1: I see that there's like a photo of this guy
and it says Eugene Linden and he's got glasses, like
if you google him, But I just I don't.
Speaker 3: Remember him from season one.
Speaker 1: And there's like that photo of him is from the game,
but this one that looks like it's actually from the
show Shocking Death in episode two. Eugene Is death have
been mentioned multiple times in the first episode. Yeah, in
episode two, Jesse told Ellie and it's a shame Joel
had to kill Eugene.
Speaker 3: Couldn't be saved when he was alive.
Speaker 1: Egene, so yeah, I guess he wasn't wasn't in the
first season. I don't know why Google has all these
photos of this character then, because it's a real actor.
Speaker 3: I don't know.
Speaker 1: I just assumed that he was one of the guys
in that cannibal community for whatever reason. It's the storyline
wise that doesn't make any fucking sense. So I'm sure
they're gonna give us backstory on on Eugene because I mean, you're,
like you said, we'll probably go back to Jackson and
we'll get a little bit more stuff with Gail and
probably with Tommy and get.
Speaker 3: A little bit more in sight into into Eugene.
Speaker 2: So yeah, we're going. Yeah, I don't have uh, I
don't have anything else. We have a Dina and Ellie
tense sequence at the end there. I thought it was
gonna get a steamy sequence, but it never never got steamy.
It stayed pretty uh pretty cold temper.
Speaker 4: Yeah.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 1: They talked about you know, the kiss and everything like that,
and she got a harsh grade of a six.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 1: Yeah, So it doesn't seem like they're gonna pursue their
relationship because it seems like and Ellie was kind of
poking fun at at her with this. It seems like
she's gone back to seth now alight, Jesse.
Speaker 2: Oh my god, that's a reason why I set up about.
Speaker 3: Oh yeah, that's exactly.
Speaker 1: It's why he's got a cane now too, where it's
going hard all night.
Speaker 2: Oh that's Seth.
Speaker 1: Yeah, Jesse, Jesse, fuck, you don't think they're gonna they're
gonna keep going in that direction of something a little
bit more than friends.
Speaker 2: I feel like they'll be dancing along.
Speaker 1: The because she's she said to you like, well you
like girls, and like I I don't.
Speaker 3: I was just true, it doesn't matter.
Speaker 1: So she I feel like she reaffirmed herself and in
this moment, but she was just in that time at
the party, she was just having fun and just experimenting
or trying it out.
Speaker 3: But yeah, I don't know.
Speaker 2: She wasn't that high though, right remember she did, Oh
you were super high. I don't know. I feel like
Dina is a fun flirt to have at least to
like keep the window open. You know, she's not gonna
straight up say yes or no. But I think she's
gonna keep dancing along those lines.
Speaker 1: Well you're you know, you're probably right if Jesse and
Seth are the picture, and I'm sure she'll keep her
options open with Ellie.
Speaker 2: I just picture we're gonna get like a Jackson scene.
It's gonna be like Seth and Jesse talking about Dina
with one of them.
Speaker 3: Yeah cool.
Speaker 1: Well yeah, I got nothing either, So we did it
Episode three in the books. We'll be back next week
with episode four as we continue on, and we'll be
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Speaker 3: Have a good one.
Speaker 2: Bye bye.