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smartphone or tablet, and again, thank you so much for

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your support. Couple of items and messages here. Just to

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clean up from the last hour. Regarding Kamala Harris certifying

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the electoral college victory for Donald Trump, Eric says, did

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you notice that Kamala Harris secured fewer electoral votes than

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Hillary Clinton did?

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Speaker 2: Lol? She was really a terrible candidate. It's true. That's true.

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Speaker 1: Bound by Duty says, Welcome back, Pete from your well

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deserved time off. My lunchtime ritual is back in order.

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My ride home on forty five helps complete my information

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based enjoyment using your podcast. Lots of things have happened

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since you've been out, no shortage of topics. In my opinion,

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that is true, even though I explicitly said do not

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break anything while I was gone, lots of stuff got

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broken by many people. It's almost like they don't listen

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to me. Sean Davis from The Federalist. He says, the

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only thing Democrats got in exchange for screeching about monsurriction

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for four years was being bullied into accepting a Republican

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as president for the first time in forever. Like, that's right,

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because this is the first time in this century that

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Congressional Democrats have not objected to the certification of a

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Republican president, first time in the twenty first century, because

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they couldn't very well do it now, right after complaining

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about Mott Rose and the insurrection and all of this,

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they could not get out there today and object to

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the certification of the results.

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Speaker 2: So there's that.

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Speaker 1: I got a message also from Bob who asked regarding

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George Soros getting one of the Medals of Freedom from Biden.

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There was a list of nineteen people. I was going

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through some of them in the last hour real quick.

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Joe Biden gave the Medal of Freedom, which is the

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highest civilian honor in the nation. Gave it to Hillary Clinton,

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George Soros, Bono from the band You Two, Michael J.

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Fox from Back to the Future, Magic Johnson, the basketball legend,

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Ralph Lauren, fashion guy, soccer player, Lionel Messi, Denzel Washington

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and a Win Tour, the editor in chief of Vogue magazine.

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Bill Nye, the science guy who doesn't even have a

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degree in science. If I recall correctly, rfk not junior,

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but the slain former New York Senator and US Attorney

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General from You've Got Murdered by Sir Hann Sirhin fifty

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years ago. Jane Goodall, who hung out with all the

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apes you know. David Rubinstein, the billionaire co founder of

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the Carlisle Group. Donor sorry, jose Andres, the celebrity chef

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and founder of the World Central Kitchen charity group. That's

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a good one. I feel like that that's a pretty

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good medal to give. Ashton Baldwin Carter, former Defense Secretary,

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Tim Gill, an entrepreneur whose work has advanced LGBT rights,

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George Romney mid Romney's dad got one. George Stevens junior

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and author and playwright. And Fanny Lou Hamer, the late

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civil rights leader and founder of the Mississippi Freedom Democratic Party.

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So that those were the nineteen that got the medals,

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and I was I truth be told, I was, I was.

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I was dragging George Soros a little bit in the

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last hour.

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Speaker 2: I don't regret it. Not a fan.

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Speaker 1: And Bob wanted to know, how does Soros benefit from anarchy?

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Because Soros has been funding these district attorney races to

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put into office these far left, you know, criminal justice

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reform activists who have not been holding people accountable for crimes.

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They don't prosecute, They cut all sorts of deals, and

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their jurisdictions have turned into war zones or hellholes or both.

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And Bob wants to know how does Soros benefit from that?

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He says, I don't understand his motivation, hatred for American culture.

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How to entrepreneurs justify damaging systems from which they're wealth arows, so.

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Speaker 2: Sorrows.

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Speaker 1: You got to remember, like, this is a currency manipulator guy.

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He's a currency trader and investor guy, right, So he's

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not like an entrepreneur. He's not going out there trying

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to create a product that people want. See, that's the

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beauty of the free market is that if you create

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a product or a service that actually has value for people,

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then people will want it, and so you are then

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making their lives better in some small or large way. Right,

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They're choosing voluntarily to buy your product because they believe

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it gives them benefit, and you're helping. So an entrepreneur

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is helping people and the economy and usually the society.

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That's the beauty of the free market. Is it perfect? No,

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But it's the it's us. The free market is you.

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The free market is me. Right, that's what the free

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market is. And commies like to, you know, throw the

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word capitalist around like it's a slur. I'm not offended

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by it. But if you want to call me a capitalist, fine,

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I am a free marketeer. I believe in the free

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market because it represents billions of factors made at any

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give in point. It's the only way that you could

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do it. It's such a complex system because we are

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all individual people with different needs and wants that change

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minute to minute, hour to hour, day to day. Right now,

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I may not be willing to pay, you know, fifty

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dollars for your product, but you put it on sale,

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and now you give it to me for forty Now, okay,

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now I will why I don't know, maybe forty dollars

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was my limit. Maybe I feel like I'm getting a deal.

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Maybe I've got fomo fear of missing out. Maybe I

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need the thing now. That's one of the things about like,

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for example, advertising, A lot of products that are advertised,

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not just on the radio or on podcast, TV wherever.

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A lot of products that are advertised are not products

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that you're going to buy over and over and over

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and over again. So what is the point of advertising

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over and over and over again, right for years and

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years and years for the same product. Well, yes, it's

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to find new people that may need that service, but

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it's also to create in somebody's mind a memory of

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a product or a service, of the name of a website,

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a phone number, whatever, a brand. It's so they remember

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it for when they do need it. So how do

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you measure that, Like, how do you capture all of

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those decision points, all of those factors at the point

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of purchase. There's no other way to do it more

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efficiently than the free market, because everybody decides on their

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own and if a business is able to meet the demand,

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they will then adjust to what those demand levels are

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with the commensurates supply. It's a beautiful system. Like when

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you think about what it actually measures is freedom. It's

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our ability to engage in free exercise of commerce. It's beautiful,

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and I think that's why some people hate it. Some

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people hate beautiful things. And I also think that there's

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a lot of ignorance as to the beauty of this

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system and what it really is. That's why I keep

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talking about the free market being you and me our decisions. Hey,

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you know what, I could really go for a Pepperoni.

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Speaker 2: Pizza right now.

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Speaker 1: Why, I don't know. I want a pizza. I love

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Pepperoni pizza. I haven't had Pepperoni pizza. Whatever the decision is,

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whatever the factor is in that, rather than the government

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coming in and saying like they do in the K

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twelve government schools, today is Pepperoni Pizza Day, whether you

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like it or not. Right, that's not a free market.

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Speaker 2: I did not finish the answer.

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Speaker 1: Ummmm, Bob wanted to know what's in it for sous,

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Why would you fund all of these district attorneys to

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then implement these soft on crime policies, these approaches to

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offer plea bargains and dismissals and such. Oh, by the way,

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they just dismissed all of the cases I think against

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the unc tenttifada crowd up there in Chapel Hill.

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Speaker 2: Yeah. Like, that's what you get, right.

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Speaker 1: Non enforcement of law, which then, of course sends the

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signal to people who wish to break more laws. They

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can continue to break more laws with impunity because there

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aren't going to be any repercussions to them. It also

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sends signals to the law abiding people that they are

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fools because they're following these laws. Because while some people

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may be motivated to follow the law because I'm a

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good person and I like to follow all the rules,

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spoiler alert, you're not following all of the rules.

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Speaker 2: Nobody can.

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Speaker 1: There are too many.

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Speaker 2: Show me the man, I'll show you the crime. Right.

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Speaker 1: The vast majority of people follow the laws because they

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are afraid of the penalties for not doing so. How

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many people would be speeding more? How many more people

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would be speeding at higher rates if there were no

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speed limit, and that speed limit was not enforced with

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any kind of punishment. Right, that's the point. And so

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when you strip away the punishments, now you are going

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to encourage more of the thing that is not being

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punished because the people who were following the rules because

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they were afraid of the punishment now are not afraid

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of any punishment. People who don't care about punishment are

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not deterred by the punishments.

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Speaker 2: Obviously, So why would Soros do this? What's the motivation

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for doing this?

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Speaker 1: Why would he want these das to be in office

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and have this breakdown of the society. Well, it's much

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like all of the reasons. Why what I call temporary

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anarchists because they're not really anarchists, They just want chaos

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for a little while, just for a bit. You create

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conditions that are so terrible that people will then clamor

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for a crackdown to restore order. That is the natural response.

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Happens throughout human history. In every society, things get too

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out of control, somebody comes in and promises to restore order.

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They get power and they If Vladimir Putin did it

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blew up an apartment building allegedly right blamed it on

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some terrorists or something, and they were like, oh my gosh,

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everybody's freaking out, so let's have a restore order campaign.

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I mean the creation of the TSA right.

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Speaker 2: You have all these.

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Speaker 1: Reactions to chaotic incidents, and it's all the same that

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we're going to institute, implement order, and then people yield

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freedom for security, because that's the natural tendency. The natural

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tendency of government is to grow, is to take more

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and more liberty from its citizens, and the natural tendency

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of the citizenry is to give it up, is to

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trade it in for a perception of security, a belief

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that they are more secure. And the Faustian bargain always

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ends the same. It ends with people intents in western

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North Carolina that can't get FEMA trailers. It always ends

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the same way. Because government can never deliver on the

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promises of the security that they made. You end up

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with New Orleans, you end up with an open southern border,

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You end up with a subway system in New York

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City that is just riddled with with crime and stabbings

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and such. So, but people keep making that, they keep

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making the choice, they keep making that that uh, that

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Faustian deal. So if you are the one who creates

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the chaos, are you in it just to create the chaos?

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I would submit, No, you are actually in it. I

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mean aside from like being the actual stabber on the

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subway car, like they're in it for the chaos. But

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if you're at the Soros level, you're not in it

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to create chaos for chaos's sake. You're in it to

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create chaos so you can be part of the solution,

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so you can be part of the restoration of order.

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Why do you think he donates all the money to

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politicians that don't have anything to do with.

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Speaker 2: Law and order.

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Speaker 1: DA's plea agreements and that sort of thing. It's to

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write the laws to give himself the advantage. The quote

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elites the positions of power, the influence, or as Einran

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called it, the politics of pull.

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Speaker 2: How much pull do you have?

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Speaker 1: And so when you pay a lot of money into

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campaign coffers and you get a bunch of das elected

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that rip apart the fabric of a high trust society,

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you then get people clamoring for a restoration of law

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and order. Well, look at that. I just happened to

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know some people that could pass some laws that would

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help alleviate these problems.

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Speaker 2: Which nobody could ever have expected.

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Speaker 1: And now you're in right now, you're part of the solution,

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and you get to now be part of that two

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tiered system, which he already is. I mean, you've got

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a two tier system as it is, right, the Democrat

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Party called the Elysium Party.

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Speaker 2: You got the uber rich and you get the activists poor.

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Speaker 1: And I don't know if they can speak a language

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that will be attractive to anybody outside of that elite crowd.

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I think they're gonna start, uh, they're gonna start bleeding

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the lower end of their demographic in their in their base.

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They're gonna have the activists. They're gonna have the college educated, right, Okay,

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that's kind of redundant activists too, right. So they're gonna

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have the the really wealthy elites, the taste makers, the

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trendsetters and such because they don't have to live. But

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they don't have to they're not right in the subways, right,

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And then you get the Marxist activist crowd.

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Speaker 2: So he's in it. So, so the purpose is.

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Speaker 1: To be in the lab when you make the the

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virus and the antidote, and then you can be the

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one to provide the antidote because that gives you the control.

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Speaker 2: That's what it's about. All right.

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Speaker 1: I hope you had a happy holiday season. But tell

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me if something like this happened at your house. Your

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family and friends are gathered around. Maybe y'all are in

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the living room, You're laughing, swapping stories, reminiscing, and then

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somebody says, hey, Dad, remember those old VHS tapes? Did

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you ever get them transferred? And then the room gets

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all quiet. All eyes are on Dad, who says, oh,

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you know, well, I've been meaning to but I just

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having gotten around to it. Look, don't let those priceless

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memories sit in a box for another year.

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Speaker 2: All right.

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video dot Com. Russ says, Pete, welcome back. You detailing

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your time off got me thinking. Winter Book comes back

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and tells us about the great time that he had

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with listeners on a cruise. And you come back and

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we hear about ripping your iTunes catalog again. Future promo

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idea for you. You need to organize some kind of a

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listener meetup or a getaway. You could invite listeners to

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watch as you organize your sock drawer or something. There

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are no bad ideas under the cone of creativity.

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Speaker 2: It's true. That is true. I like it well.

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Speaker 1: I mean, they're always telling us like you need to

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welcome people into your life and show them behind.

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Speaker 2: The scenes stuff.

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Speaker 1: So all right, I'll do maybe I'll do a video.

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Maybe I'll do a video on when I organize the

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sock drawer.

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Speaker 2: It is.

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Speaker 1: It is about time for me to do that because

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I bought those dividers. Those things never work, right, I

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take it back, I did buy one product that did

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work correctly. But it was only front to back. When

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you start getting into different dimensions, like if you're starting

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to go horizontal and vertical divisions, it's that stuff never works.

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I don't feel like and uh universal not not universal.

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Speaker 2: They're like, oh, this will fit any drawer. No it won't.

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It did not.

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Speaker 1: You start putting different pressure points on the little show

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on the little dividers. So this is this is how

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I stay in touch with the everyday person.

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Speaker 2: Right.

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Speaker 1: Did you have to do a bunch of iTunes ripping

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at some point too? No, you probably spaced it out

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like a normal person would do. But I just put

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off all of this stuff. I put it off. I

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put it off because I have more important things to do,

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like Twitter.

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Speaker 2: So I just put it off and put it off.

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Speaker 1: And then I had I wrote a to do list.

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It was a full page to do list of all

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the things I had to get done.

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Speaker 2: I put up a bird house.

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Speaker 1: Don't tell the hoa. I put up a bird house

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and I got it for Christmas. And so I was

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going to rehab a table table that had been painted

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over a bunch of times and stuff, and we bought

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it at one of those consignment Is that what it's

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called consignment place where they got like the different little

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areas and it's had like a warehouse and people rent

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the booths and whatever. Anyway, we picked up one of

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these things and it's a little table. It's got wheels

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on it, so it goes in the little laundry room

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and so you can move it around and take it

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out if you needed to, which we actually haven't ever

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needed to take it out, but whatever. So the idea

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was to paint it. But then I got the bird house.

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a camera in it so I can watch when the

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birds make a nest in the bird house. Okay, if

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the birds make a nest, I'm not certain they're going to.

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I'm really not certain that they're going to.

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Speaker 2: I don't, I don't.

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Speaker 1: I will say, I'll keep you posted. I keep looking

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at it, and you know, open up the camera. It's

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got a little solar panel on it so I don't

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have to recharge it all the time. It's a pretty

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I mean, it's neat. It's a great idea, and I

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hope I get some birds that live in there. I'd

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love to be able to just like snoop on them.

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And then watches some snake like goes and eats the eggs.

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I'm sure at some point, but I mean I'll be sad.

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Speaker 2: Anyway.

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Speaker 1: So yeah, maybe I'll shoot a video of the of

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the installation of some shelves in the toilet room. Anyway,

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let me get to a more important thing. The State

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Department has crafted plans to distribute staffers from the GECK.

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Do you remember the GEK. I know, there's a lot

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of acronyms GEC. It's the Global Engagement Center. It's where

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everybody goes before they propose to get married. And no,

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it's this is the operation. I mentioned this during the

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the Kramibus, remember when they put together the funding package,

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the continuing resolution with the you know, the deadline before Christmas.

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And one of the things, one of the provisions that

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was buried in that Kramnibus was the perpetuation of the GEK,

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the Global Engagement Center, which was a censorship tool, and

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it was housed inside the State Department, and they tried

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to to not let its sun set last month. So

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when the cram nebus failed and then they did the

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stripped down clean CRS and all that, the GEK was

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one of the casualties. But don't worry everybody. They have

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found a way. They have found a way to preserve

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the people that were in the GEK, and they've moved

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him around. They've done some shuffling, okay, and same with

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the money. Fifty one employees, a twenty nine million dollar budget,

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and the GEK.

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Speaker 2: To do. Where is it?

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Speaker 1: The office that Republicans accused of working with groups aimed

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at demonetizing right leaning media outlets in the US is

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shut down last month upon lawmakers agreeing to no longer

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fund it, well because it was sunset it. However, in

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a non public letter to members of Congress on December sixth,

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the State Department outlined its plans to realign more than

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fifty GEK officials and tens of millions of dollars in

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funding to a hub. So we are going from the

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GEK to a hub purporting to counter foreign interference.

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Speaker 2: Oh sorry, I should do this foreign interference the Russians? Okay.

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Speaker 1: The plans, which have not been reported on until now

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at The Washington Examiner by Gabe Kaminski, will likely lead

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to investigations from Republicans into the State Department's handling of

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the gek's closure. That's because, according to senior GOP staffers

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who reviewed them, they appear to indicate that the Biden

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administration is merely rebranding the GEK under a different name,

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forming a new body that could be poised to engage

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in work very similar to the work that landed the

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GEK in hot water over the last two years. Now, look,

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there there is a perfectly logical reason why this just

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looks like a rebrand. Okay, because it's a rebrand, right,

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That's why it looks like that.

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Speaker 2: All right.

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Speaker 1: If you're listening to this show, you know I try

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to keep up with all sorts of current events, and

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I know you do too, And you've probably heard me

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say get your news from multiple sources. Why Well, because

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it's how you detect media bias, which is why I've

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been so impressed with ground News. It's an app and

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it's a website, and it combines news from around the

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world in one place so you can compare coverage and

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verify information.

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Speaker 2: You can check it out at check.

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Speaker 1: Dot ground dot news slash pete. I put the link

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in the podcast description too. I started using ground News

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a few months ago and more recently chose to work

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with them as an affiliate because it lets me see

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clearly how stories get covered and by whom. The blind

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spot feature shows you which stories get ignored by the

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left and the right.

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Speaker 2: See for yourself.

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Speaker 1: Check dot org, ground dot News slash Pete. Subscribe through

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that link and you'll get fifteen percent off any subscription.

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I use the Vantage plan to get unlimited access to

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every feature. Your subscription then not only helps my podcast,

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but it also supports Ground News as they make the

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media landscape more transparent.

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Speaker 2: Jan says.

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Speaker 1: It isn't that we are not listening when you say,

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don't break anything while I'm gone. It's just that as guys,

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we automatically think challenge accepted.

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Speaker 2: That's fair. No, that's fair.

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Speaker 1: Bill Nye, the science guy has a degree in mechanical engineering,

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which means he is very valuable if you need help

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assembling something you got at Ikea, anything else actually science related,

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he is pretty useless. See I knew he didn't have

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an He wasn't like a climatologist orney, but.

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Speaker 2: Mechanical engineering degree. All right.

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Speaker 1: So the Washington Examiner headline State Department to route GEK

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funding to hub. From the GEK to the hub, the GEC,

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the Global Engagement Center. Formed in twenty sixteen. The GEC

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claimed to only counter foreign disinformation, but it came under

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intense criticism for backing the Global Disinformation Index or the

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GDI and other groups that were pressuring advertisers to stop

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buying ads on media outlets in America that the left

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didn't like, and they said, we're peddling disinformation and misinformation

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things that turned out to actually be true. In the

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congressional notification, the State Department identified the HUB. This newly

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formed body, it is called the Counter Foreign Information Manipulation

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and Interference Hub, the CFIMIH, or the.

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Speaker 2: KUFFEME as I like to call it.

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Speaker 1: The HUB will report to the State Department's undersecretary, which

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is always a hilarious name. Under Secretary.

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Speaker 2: I don't know why.

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Speaker 1: It just reminds me of like underwear and underdog. Anyway,

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Undersecretary of State for public diplomacy. So they got so

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this this is what the state agency got defunded. Okay,

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State Department GEK gets defunded. They put and this is

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why there should always be sunsets for all of these

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types of programs. If it's working, I'm just kidding, it's

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a government program. But if it was working, it was

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sufficiently not like being abused, or it wasn't being abused

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a lot, right, it was like I had a low

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abuse factor. Anyway, you could then have it automatically sunset.

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If it was doing a decent job, you could then say, Okay,

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we're going to re up it. But it takes an

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affirmative vote to re up. That's the way I think

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all these programs need to be. You don't get to

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set stuff up and just have it last in perpetuity,

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because that is also the natural tendency of all of

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these government programs. You create the program and it just

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never dies, it never goes away. This one got sunseted,

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but spoiler, it just now got reorganized. When they sunset

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the thing because it did abuse, they then just move

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the people around and reallocate the money and create another

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entity that is going to basically do the same thing,

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but it's only going to look at the foreign interference everybody. No,

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no targeting of American conservatives, I mean, at least initially.

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According to one senior GEO, gex planned shift to the

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Hub demonstrates that the federal government won't give up its

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stake in the domestic disinformation fighting industry without a fight.

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Speaker 2: Quote.

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Speaker 1: This is according to a senior GOP eight. Donald Trump

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and Marco Rubio are going to have to track every

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single office down to every single staffer if they want

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to end the weaponization of the federal government against conservatives.

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The State Department is filled with resistance Democrats who think

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they got through the first Trump administration and will get

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through the second the same way. Right, They are sand

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in the gears. They talked about this back in twenty sixteen,

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twenty seventeen, when Trump won. They were people inside the

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government were talking about and they would talk to media outlets,

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I mean all anonymously. Of course, they posted about this

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stuff saying that they know how to jam up the works.

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They can grind all of this stuff down to a halt,

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and they can out last to you because you're only

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there for four years. In Trump's case, that's a hard

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four years. Right, He's gone in four So all they

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need to do is slow stuff down, prevent new things

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from happening, and then Trump will be gone and they

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can resume their practice. Meanwhile, uh oh, hang on, let

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me skip the paragraph. The source familiar with the matter

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said the planned hub would not have the grant making

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power that GEK did, so they don't get to spread

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around the money to all of these you know, left

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wing nonprofits that then organize the boycott campaigns and pressure

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campaigns against advertisers, and the point of that obviously is

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to starve conservative outlets of revenue so they fold. This

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is just shut up ery in a different form. Once

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you see shut uppery as the prevalent line of attack

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from the left, it explains so many things. You see

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it everywhere. It's just shut up. Andrew Claven's famous episode

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that he did I don't know, probably twenty years ago

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now on shut up Ory. They do not want the debate,

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they don't want a discussion. They just want you to

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shut up or preferably agree with them and back their

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play on everything. So they're not going to have grant

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making power. At the same time, besides awarding grants to

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groups accused of censoring conservatives, the GEK was also involved

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with other initiatives that earned the ire of lawmakers concerned

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about the First Amendment and violations of it. Top GEK

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staffers have already resurfaced to work for the most high

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ranking officials at the State Department, such as James P.

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Speaker 2: Rubin.

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Speaker 1: He is now a senior advisor to Blincoln. The Secretary

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of State Leah Bray she was the former acting coordinator.

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She's now over at the She's the chief of staff

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to Deputy Secretary of State Kurt Campbell. Daniel Kimmage was

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the principal deputy coordinator for the GEK. He is now

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the Under Secretary for Public Diplomacy's team. Given the evidence

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shows the GEK has long ignored its congressional mandate to

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focus solely on foreign disinformation, its continuation under a so

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called hub is extremely troubling, said Margo Cleveland, an attorney

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for the New Civil Liberties Alliance. That legal nonprofit group

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is representing conservative media outlets like The Daily Wire and

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the Federalists, the Federalist dot Com, which joined the State

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of Texas in a lawsuit accusing GHEK of facilitating quote,

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one of the most egregious government operations to censor the

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American press in the history of the nation. All right,

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that'll do it for this episode.

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Speaker 2: Thank you so much for listening.

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thank you so much for listening, and don't break anything

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while I'm gone.

