Speaker 1: And that's why I never read the comment. I just
Speaker 1: want to like, I'm not even gonna look amazing tonight.
Speaker 1: I love what you're wearing. Said, Oh my god, you're
Speaker 1: all I have an angry clows.
Speaker 2: That is life.
Speaker 3: But that's hard, like unless it's like an NBA team
Speaker 3: or something.
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Speaker 1: A real married couple who actually make content together and
Speaker 1: have been together for nearly twelve years. To prove it,
Speaker 1: they met at a rave in southern California and when
Speaker 1: one of them was still in college did the long
Speaker 1: distance thing, got married, and somewhere along the way, both
Speaker 1: coming from tech backgrounds, decided to point that same analytical
Speaker 1: business minded brain at adult content. Cookie launcher of in
Speaker 1: twenty twenty one, and they've shot for browsers, Naughty America
Speaker 1: and Vixen's Slade line, landed in Browser's twentieth anniversary Coffee
Speaker 1: table book, and have now launched their own studio. She crumbled.
Speaker 1: They even built their own AI to run the business.
Speaker 1: Please welcome Cookie and Cookie Daddy.
Speaker 3: Yay.
Speaker 1: So so I do have to ask first, just because
Speaker 1: it's on your shirts. Yes, So, for those of you
Speaker 1: who are not watching this on YouTube, a Cookie is
Speaker 1: wearing a shirt that says I love my autistic husband,
Speaker 1: and Cookie Daddy is wearing a shirt that says autism
Speaker 1: with a skeleton who's like blasting and coming out of
Speaker 1: like a firebomb.
Speaker 4: With like this is how people view met it.
Speaker 5: We were looking at outfits and our assistant was like,
Speaker 5: let's get whimsy with this, and then she's like, wear
Speaker 5: your autism shirts, and so we are like, we.
Speaker 1: Are, it's better than wearing that. Do you remember, like
Speaker 1: that shirt that was really popular for a long time.
Speaker 2: I was stupid, yes, and it had like yes, yes, no,
Speaker 2: that's sometinitely not us, but this is more we like
Speaker 2: to be a little silly whimsy with us.
Speaker 1: So talk to me a little bit about living with autism,
Speaker 1: because I'm going to assume that the shirts are not
Speaker 1: just jokes.
Speaker 4: Yeah, well truth, yes, no one told me about it
Speaker 4: for the first thirty years. And then we were watching
Speaker 4: Love on the Spectrum on the Spectrum and they have it.
Speaker 4: There's like levels of it right and right, of course,
Speaker 4: clearly the high functioning everything's fine kind of level. But
Speaker 4: we were watching these people and she was like.
Speaker 5: Wow, it's so interesting that people feel this way and
Speaker 5: behave this way. Because I have a background in communications
Speaker 5: from college, and I was like, this is just something
Speaker 5: I've never like witnessed firsthand, and like dating and things
Speaker 5: I didn't expect. And and then you know, I was like,
Speaker 5: what do you think, babe?
Speaker 4: And I was like, Okay, they haven't definitely way more severe,
Speaker 4: but I'm like, you know, I kind of relate to this,
Speaker 4: especially when I was younger, Right, it's you kind of
Speaker 4: like learning. You can grow through a lot of this
Speaker 4: and work around it. But when I was young, I'm
Speaker 4: like a lot of the frustrations they run into I'm like,
Speaker 4: you know, I used to feel that way, So yeah,
Speaker 4: that's what kind of like set it off my head.
Speaker 4: I'm like I didn't know anything about it, digging into
Speaker 4: it some more, and then just like a light bulb
Speaker 4: went off. I'm like, oh my god, that's me. Explain
Speaker 4: so much.
Speaker 1: Can you tell me like some of the early warning
Speaker 1: signs that you had as a child.
Speaker 4: I mean there's like little silly things like parents would
Speaker 4: have to use special average software, they'd have to cut
Speaker 4: the tags off. I was always solo. All my friends
Speaker 4: are nowaday virgins ADHD everywhere. Wife got in the computers,
Speaker 4: went to computer camp when I was.
Speaker 5: He like went to robotics club at like what what
Speaker 5: at Berkeley when he was like a child.
Speaker 4: To stereotypical like this kid, you know, there's your clue.
Speaker 5: A lot of things and then like I know, you've
Speaker 5: shared like growing up, like his ability to like communicate
Speaker 5: with people was always like a huge challenge for him, right,
Speaker 5: Like whether it was getting convincing a big group of
Speaker 5: people to like go and do things and then not
Speaker 5: understanding like when it would fall apart or how it
Speaker 5: fell apart. Right, Like say, like you know, you throw
Speaker 5: a party and you're like, okay, day time, and then
Speaker 5: like he doesn't follow up or do anything, but he's
Speaker 5: just like everyone said they would come, and then the
Speaker 5: day and time come and then like only a couple
Speaker 5: of people showed up, and he's like, well, why why
Speaker 5: did only a couple of people show up? It's like
Speaker 5: we got to like follow up and send reminders and
Speaker 5: check in and like all the things that like I'm
Speaker 5: really good at in our current you know, relationship. Now
Speaker 5: that's kind of like my role. We call it the
Speaker 5: fun committee, where he's like, Babe, this would be fun.
Speaker 5: I'm like fun Committee's on it. And then I'm like
Speaker 5: planning it and doing it and like, you know, because
Speaker 5: I'm the I'm the people person. But just certain things
Speaker 5: like that that were really hard for him and that
Speaker 5: he shared over the years of us being together.
Speaker 1: Interesting. Yeah, we were talking a little bit earlier and
Speaker 1: you were saying that, you know, you've had trouble in
Speaker 1: the past of understanding like at what time or what
Speaker 1: like group of people you could say certain things to
Speaker 1: like strangers versus like acquaintances versus like close fronts.
Speaker 3: And yeah, levels of disclosure, which most.
Speaker 4: People learn intuitively and I learn as well, but I
Speaker 4: need to be explicitly told this is why you do
Speaker 4: or don't do something right, because there's usually an emotional
Speaker 4: component and that part of my brain is just a
Speaker 4: little sleepier.
Speaker 1: Yeah, So do you find yourself like emotionally detached? And
Speaker 1: is that like something? I mean you guys, having your relationship.
Speaker 4: Can be like especially in work, Like I have a
Speaker 4: really good it's easy for me to separate work versus emotion.
Speaker 5: Okay, right, And I would definitely say we used to
Speaker 5: joke like my husband has the emotional intelligence of a rock,
Speaker 5: because like sometimes he would just like it was the
Speaker 5: words I was using that we needed to bridge the
Speaker 5: disconnect for him to know, like I have to be
Speaker 5: very explicit. That hurt my feelings and this is why, right,
Speaker 5: And so it was just things that we've had to
Speaker 5: learn on how to communicate the message because it's not
Speaker 5: that we're speaking completely different languages. We're just kind of
Speaker 5: maybe having different dialects of a language and they're not connecting,
Speaker 5: and so we have to just make sure we have
Speaker 5: explicit phrases that trigger his attention to be like, oh,
Speaker 5: I'm locked in. This is an emotional thing, right, because
Speaker 5: he would just go analytical if I said something, it
Speaker 5: would be, you know, problem solve, problem solve, problem solve,
Speaker 5: And sometimes it's like, I'm just expressing my feelings and
Speaker 5: my emotions and I want those to be validat most.
Speaker 4: Guys fall into anyways. For sure, it's a little bit.
Speaker 4: I'm also just a normal guy. Yeah, yeah, yeah, so's
Speaker 4: there's a string hit.
Speaker 1: I was going to say, I think that that is
Speaker 1: a super common disconnect between men and women because my
Speaker 1: husband's the same way. Like I'll tell him something and
Speaker 1: he's like, do this, do this, do this. I'm like,
Speaker 1: first of all, I know what I'm doing. Yes, I
Speaker 1: got it. I don't need your advice. I just want
Speaker 1: a bitch.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 4: It took me years to learn that, But now I
Speaker 4: go to her and like I can sniff it out now.
Speaker 4: I'm like, do you want a solution or you just
Speaker 4: want to vent? Yeah, and I want to vent. I'm like, yeah,
Speaker 4: fuck that bitch.
Speaker 2: Yeah, He's like I'm on board.
Speaker 5: It just took some time for us to learn how
Speaker 5: to talk through that and just to be able to
Speaker 5: learn like how to express emotions properly back and forth.
Speaker 1: Okay, so let's start at how you guys met. You
Speaker 1: met at a rave, right.
Speaker 3: We did. We met at a rave.
Speaker 5: It was a lot minute thing. My friend had a
Speaker 5: ticket last minute, invited me to go. His friend invited
Speaker 5: him last minute. He was living in the Bay. I
Speaker 5: was living in La It was in San Bernardino and
Speaker 5: it was a camping event and we you know, go
Speaker 5: in and I remember that rave. I was like girls
Speaker 5: only like with my friends, like yeah, this and that,
Speaker 5: and then I see this man and I still remember
Speaker 5: he had a Yoshi backpack, shirtless welder goggles and these
Speaker 5: like tan cactus shorts, and I was like, oh my god.
Speaker 3: I was like my guys and did like the little
Speaker 3: host little like creep up thing.
Speaker 5: I'm more of like a I'm like a tease where
Speaker 5: I'm like, she's you know, like notice me, but I'm
Speaker 5: gonna make some serious eye contact at you.
Speaker 3: Like I was like staring him down.
Speaker 4: And even I could read that. I'm like, oh man,
Speaker 4: I like and it was like, you know, like a
Speaker 4: horror film where every time you like turn your head,
Speaker 4: she's a couple of feet closer, and the next thing
Speaker 4: you know, she's like under my chin. I'm like, okay,
Speaker 4: I think I need to talk to her. She wants
Speaker 4: me to talk to her.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 4: It wasn't you know, it wasn't scary, but like she
Speaker 4: just kept magically getting closer coming. I'm like, okay, I
Speaker 4: have to say something. At that point, I was a
Speaker 4: little panicked and I had no game. Still don't have
Speaker 4: a game, right, yeah, I was not in my skill set.
Speaker 3: Also like the autism too.
Speaker 4: Yeah, I'm like, man, like small talk do I say
Speaker 4: to this girl? I'm like, I just said something dumb
Speaker 4: and she was like that's weird. She ran off, and.
Speaker 3: Can I say what you actually?
Speaker 4: No, no, that's not we don't need to relive it.
Speaker 1: Maybe off camera.
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, that's the other thing. I'm like, can I
Speaker 3: say that here?
Speaker 2: Yeah?
Speaker 5: So it was like you know this and that. I
Speaker 5: was like I don't know about that. I'm gonna leave,
Speaker 5: and then I don't know. At some point we ended
Speaker 5: up just like kind of like coming back together. And
Speaker 5: and then the next thing I know, like I'm like
Speaker 5: talking to him and he just like starts kissing me.
Speaker 5: I'm like, wow, this guy's really into me, like super
Speaker 5: into me. And then come to find out that, you know,
Speaker 5: he had gone to moon a little too hard and I
Speaker 5: didn't really knew what was happening.
Speaker 4: My first time going to the moon too, and I
Speaker 4: took two moons, so it was it was a lot.
Speaker 3: It was. It was yeah, rocket ship.
Speaker 4: And I looked for her. I'm like, hey, my friends
Speaker 4: just waved me goodbye and I can't form words right now.
Speaker 3: I need you to not leave me.
Speaker 5: And I was like, I've never gone to the moon,
Speaker 5: and I was like, okay, do you need water?
Speaker 3: Do you need this? Like do we need to go
Speaker 3: on a walk?
Speaker 5: Like I start panicking and he's like he's just like,
Speaker 5: uh huh sure, and like he you know, in his
Speaker 5: money he told me after he's like I just knew
Speaker 5: like once he reacted that way that it was just
Speaker 5: kind of like I was going to be okay because
Speaker 5: this person was going to take care of me.
Speaker 4: Until you went and went to get some water.
Speaker 3: Yeah, And then I was like, brow your phone.
Speaker 4: And then time dilation happens, so I'm like this girl's
Speaker 4: being up for like thirty minutes she stole my phone.
Speaker 5: I was gone for like five minutes, and I'm like,
Speaker 5: I like, come back to where he is.
Speaker 3: And I'm like running through the crowd. Has anybody seeing
Speaker 3: a guy in this and this?
Speaker 5: And everyone's looking at me like that, Yeah, everyone's like bitch,
Speaker 5: that's like every guy here.
Speaker 3: And I'm like, I'm like, oh my god.
Speaker 5: And then i'd come to find out he was just
Speaker 5: making these like figure eights like he would just.
Speaker 4: Because I would start walking like maybe she's over here,
Speaker 4: and then I'd like, oh, I've walked too far, walk back,
Speaker 4: So I just sat down. Eventually I'm like this, I'm
Speaker 4: not getting anywhere. I'll just hang here.
Speaker 5: Yeah. So at the end of it, he was you know,
Speaker 5: he came out of space and was like, let me
Speaker 5: walk you back to your campsite. And we ended up
Speaker 5: like being like tent right next Our tents were right
Speaker 5: next to each other.
Speaker 3: Oh wow, yeah, like two tents away from each other.
Speaker 4: I was like, the next day we went to the
Speaker 4: beach and well, we had a.
Speaker 5: One night stand in the back of his friend's car,
Speaker 5: and I never had a one night stand before. I
Speaker 5: was like, this guy lives in the bay. He seems
Speaker 5: very nice, like, let me just try this, let's see
Speaker 5: how it goes.
Speaker 3: And it was fantastic.
Speaker 4: You know.
Speaker 3: After he got off, he like was like, do you
Speaker 3: want me to like, you know, can I do you
Speaker 3: want me to go down on you?
Speaker 5: And I was like, I've just been raving for like
Speaker 5: seven hours in the desert and I don't want anyone
Speaker 5: to like venture down there. I don't know what's going on,
Speaker 5: so like we'll table that. But I super appreciate the offer.
Speaker 5: That's like very heartwarming, thank you. But then we spent
Speaker 5: the next day at the beach. He's like, I'll call
Speaker 5: you when I get home, and then he did, and
Speaker 5: then came back down the next day.
Speaker 3: Five days later. We started dating long distance.
Speaker 2: Wow.
Speaker 1: And then you guys dated long distance for like a year.
Speaker 3: A yeah, yeah.
Speaker 4: And then she came and moved in yep.
Speaker 5: And then I transferred to school up in the Bay
Speaker 5: and finished out college up there.
Speaker 1: Wow. It was serious.
Speaker 4: Yeah, Yeah, it went extremely quick.
Speaker 3: Yeah. I always say that I can remember this distinct.
Speaker 5: We would be on FaceTime all the time, and I
Speaker 5: remember this phone call where we were talking really late
Speaker 5: and we both just said when we were dating people,
Speaker 5: it always just felt like there was this piece of
Speaker 5: a puzzle that was always missing, and we were just like,
Speaker 5: maybe this is just like how it's supposed to be
Speaker 5: and then you know, that puzzle eventually comes together. But
Speaker 5: when we were together, it never felt that way. It
Speaker 5: just like every piece of the puzzle like just fit. Yeah,
Speaker 5: it was perfect. You know, obviously relationships all have their
Speaker 5: bumps and stuff, but like that was never pretty perfect.
Speaker 4: Yeah, it's a pretty cute story. And I'm usually not
Speaker 4: the romantic kind of Yeah, I'm like, yeah, that it's
Speaker 4: a good story. Like we got we got real lucky.
Speaker 1: Yeah, that was a good story. I know exactly what
Speaker 1: you mean. Before I met my husband, I was really
Speaker 1: bad at like I was kind of commitment phobic. I
Speaker 1: had I've been married before for four years, which was
Speaker 1: like miserable the whole time. But before that, like I
Speaker 1: couldn't do more than like a year, you know, I
Speaker 1: get bored. And I remember my mom telling me, She's like,
Speaker 1: when you meet the right person and you'll just know,
Speaker 1: And I'm like, what the fuck does that mean?
Speaker 5: Yeah?
Speaker 1: Literally, and you always like try to force it right yea,
Speaker 1: like okay, well this guy's this, this and this, and
Speaker 1: then yeah, I just always thought it was me. Yeah,
Speaker 1: you know, and I was like, well, maybe I'm just
Speaker 1: like not that kind of person who like falls in love.
Speaker 1: Maybe like that's just not for me. And yeah, and
Speaker 1: then I met my husband and I was like, oh,
Speaker 1: oh oh this makes sense. And yeah, we've been together
Speaker 1: for ten yearsh shit, our anniversary is coming up. We've
Speaker 1: been together for ten years and I've never ever for
Speaker 1: a second questioned if I was with the right person.
Speaker 4: Not once.
Speaker 1: That's amazing and that happened to me all the time.
Speaker 1: So I'm sure you guys probably feel the same way. Yep, yeah,
Speaker 1: very similar. Cool it makes things easier, yeah, yeah, love
Speaker 1: can come for you too, guys. Yes, Okay, So how
Speaker 1: did you guys make this relationship work long term? Because
Speaker 1: you were you've been together for twelve years, so like
Speaker 1: for those people who are maybe struggling with relationships, what
Speaker 1: is like the solid glue that really keeps you guys together.
Speaker 3: It's a great question.
Speaker 5: So it's ironic because when we first started dating, we
Speaker 5: were super monogamous right as like most people are, but
Speaker 5: we just seemed to keep attracting swingers everywhere that we went,
Speaker 5: and not like we ever swing ever, ever, thought about
Speaker 5: any of that.
Speaker 3: We really didn't know what swinging was.
Speaker 5: But like every time we'd go out, like there would
Speaker 5: be this couple, and the couple would be all like, oh,
Speaker 5: you know, raves are like on a cruise, and we're
Speaker 5: just like, what are we putting some vibe out there?
Speaker 5: Because like we're not trying to sleep with anybody, but
Speaker 5: like we you know, it just kept happening. And then
Speaker 5: we met this couple and they work together for so
Speaker 5: long and they just had the most beautiful marriage. And
Speaker 5: I was just like, you can tell they were just
Speaker 5: disgustingly in love with each other. And I was like,
Speaker 5: remember one night having a conversation with them, saying, your
Speaker 5: relationship is so beautiful, get you sleep with other people?
Speaker 3: How does that work?
Speaker 5: Right? And not that at the time we were interested
Speaker 5: in swinging or getting into that. I was like, I
Speaker 5: want the foundational, Like what is the building blocks that
Speaker 5: make this work? And they told us that every day's
Speaker 5: a choice and every day you have to choose your
Speaker 5: partner no matter what.
Speaker 3: People change.
Speaker 5: People you know, grow distance, they change interests, right, all
Speaker 5: these different things can happen life. You know, when you
Speaker 5: were twenty when we when I met him versus I'm
Speaker 5: thirty two. Now I'm a completely different person, and like
Speaker 5: when I'm fifty, I'm going to be a completely different
Speaker 5: person again. Right, Like, people evolve all the time, but
Speaker 5: every day you have to choose your partner no matter what.
Speaker 5: And if you stop choosing your partner, that's okay, Like
Speaker 5: things happen, but that's usually I think the thing that like,
Speaker 5: you have.
Speaker 4: To be worried and you're not stuck.
Speaker 3: Yeah, you're not stuck.
Speaker 4: Otherwise you start resenting the person. You don't own the person.
Speaker 4: So I think it's just a good having the correct
Speaker 4: frame of mind and then solid communication because most people
Speaker 4: don't communicate well enough. They don't talk about things that
Speaker 4: are uncomfortable to talk about. So if you do all
Speaker 4: those uncomfortable things and you have the right frame of mind,
Speaker 4: it works out, or it can work out, or you're
Speaker 4: like this isn't for us, and then you leave something
Speaker 4: that would otherwise drag on your life.
Speaker 5: Yeah, Like obviously there's non negotiables for certain things, right
Speaker 5: Like if one person doesn't want kids and the other
Speaker 5: person want kids, that's like there's no making that work
Speaker 5: in my opinion. But you know, for things like lifestyle
Speaker 5: swinging that kind of stuff. Like for me, I'm I
Speaker 5: could be a monogamous girl and be totally chill. This
Speaker 5: wants to be in an orgy every single day, and
Speaker 5: so you know, we have to like make that work.
Speaker 5: And it was one of those things that like it
Speaker 5: was a trying time in our marriage to figure out
Speaker 5: how it works. But at the end of the day,
Speaker 5: I had to choose him in this marriage to make
Speaker 5: it work. And so we just have to like both
Speaker 5: consent into that new chapter of our life.
Speaker 3: And like, there are.
Speaker 5: Things that he's going to have to give up. Can't
Speaker 5: be in an orgy every single day, right, And then
Speaker 5: there's other things that I have to give up, which
Speaker 5: is like, you know.
Speaker 3: I have to.
Speaker 5: Change my mindset around how we engage with other people
Speaker 5: and how that becomes a safe and fun place for
Speaker 5: me to also explore.
Speaker 1: So how did you guys even start that conversation about
Speaker 1: opening up your relationship Because I know that there's a
Speaker 1: lot of people who are probably watching who would also
Speaker 1: like to explore that dynamic, but they're like terrified to
Speaker 1: bring it up to their part.
Speaker 4: It was a very slow, gradual process, Like early on
Speaker 4: our relationship, she had little clues that she might be bisexual,
Speaker 4: and then when we started only fans, it was just
Speaker 4: her solo and then eventually she teased into like some
Speaker 4: girl girl. But it was very gradual because if you
Speaker 4: asked us like years and years ago, it was like
Speaker 4: this was not on the table at all.
Speaker 3: No, and I never expected to be here.
Speaker 4: Yeah, and I feel like a lot of people would
Speaker 4: make the mistake in a relationship. They'll go too hard
Speaker 4: too fast, and people get hurt. Yeah, there's no real
Speaker 4: book on this stuff, and the boundaries very drastically and
Speaker 4: it's very personal.
Speaker 3: And they can constantly change.
Speaker 4: They can constantly change. So usually going too hard too
Speaker 4: fast is where people get into trouble.
Speaker 5: And that's kind of that same couple I called Hurt
Speaker 5: my like lifestyle Yoda, where like anytime I had a
Speaker 5: question about things, I would be like, you know, how
Speaker 5: how do I like talk about this or how do
Speaker 5: I approach this? And you know, one of the things
Speaker 5: that she told me, she's like, you're gonna get hurt.
Speaker 5: Your feelings are going to get hurt. His feelings are
Speaker 5: going to get hurt. You guys are going to hurt
Speaker 5: each other unintentionally, and you just have to like be
Speaker 5: okay with that, because it's not like you're purposely doing
Speaker 5: anything you know, out of like you know, bad intent
Speaker 5: but you know one thing you were like, well, let's
Speaker 5: experiment with this, and then it's like, oh, that's a
Speaker 5: boundary and I didn't know, and like now you have
Speaker 5: to like kind of deal with that.
Speaker 4: Let's say about half the time, you don't know what
Speaker 4: the boundary is.
Speaker 5: Until you do it, and then you're like, yep, didn't
Speaker 5: like that, you know, And then just know that the
Speaker 5: other person doesn't have, you know, bad intentions by any means,
Speaker 5: and that you guys are on the same team and
Speaker 5: as long as you guys can talk through it. It's
Speaker 5: a super difficult conversation to have, and I would suggest
Speaker 5: like maybe just try to find like a really cool
Speaker 5: we'll first have the conversation with your partner if they're
Speaker 5: even like open to the discussion. One thing that I
Speaker 5: would recommend would be trying to find maybe like a
Speaker 5: kink held event.
Speaker 3: I know that there's a lot of.
Speaker 5: Organizations that have like lifestyle parties that you can pay
Speaker 5: as like a membership and go through an interview process
Speaker 5: as a couple and then go and you can just watch.
Speaker 3: Just go in the controlled environment and around.
Speaker 4: It people because usually like minded, open minded, friendly, non pressuring.
Speaker 5: So yeah, so just be in the environment, but like,
Speaker 5: don't play with anybody and just you guys, don't even
Speaker 5: have to have sex yourself.
Speaker 3: Just be in the environment and see how you feel.
Speaker 1: Is that how you guys started.
Speaker 5: Nope, no, no, that's that's something.
Speaker 4: You know, learning everything we've learned along the way, if
Speaker 4: we had to go back and start fresh again, like
Speaker 4: our our transition was through work related things, but now
Speaker 4: we go to those events too.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 1: So you guys both come from a background in tech,
Speaker 1: and how did you go from your day jobs to
Speaker 1: like we should cross over into this new space because Cookie, Daddy,
Speaker 1: it was your suggestion that Cookie start and of back
Speaker 1: in twenty twenty one. Is that right?
Speaker 4: Well, she had a friend at the time who was
Speaker 4: doing really well with it, and for years she was like, come,
Speaker 4: come join, come join, And what were you saying, You're
Speaker 4: like no.
Speaker 5: I was like, I'm a college educated woman, Like as
Speaker 5: if that like put on some pedestal, like I need
Speaker 5: to do sex work, Like oh my god, I could
Speaker 5: never Like that's why I went to school. So I
Speaker 5: didn't have to do this or whatever, you know, the
Speaker 5: bullshit that like society kind of just.
Speaker 1: The idea that like it's a last resort for people.
Speaker 5: Yes, yes, exactly exactly and so and also my own
Speaker 5: personal side of it was that like I had never
Speaker 5: sent a new to anybody in my life, and I
Speaker 5: was like, you want me to do what? Like, girl,
Speaker 5: you're crazy, like literally insane. So I started out with
Speaker 5: just doing some like assistant stuff for her, just like
Speaker 5: helping with with little things. And then eventually, yeah, we
Speaker 5: just started and I did tech consulting back then, so
Speaker 5: I would build like workflows for you know, Fortune five
Speaker 5: hundred companies that would you know, start really small and
Speaker 5: then scale them up to you know, thousands of people.
Speaker 5: So I had to have the like technical knowledge and
Speaker 5: process building mindset of like how do we build this
Speaker 5: small team that has a scalable and can like grow
Speaker 5: and you know, once you have like one video being
Speaker 5: uploaded and tagged and this and this, how do we
Speaker 5: scale it out to like all these different platforms and rotating.
Speaker 3: Right, So it kind of applied really easily.
Speaker 5: Into kind of what we do now with building a
Speaker 5: schedule and and you know, templates and this and this
Speaker 5: and this, and so it kind of worked in really
Speaker 5: easily at first in the beginning anyways, and kind of
Speaker 5: just grew from there. And then after about three months
Speaker 5: of doing OnlyFans, I was making more than what I
Speaker 5: was making at my job, and I was like, I
Speaker 5: think that we need to just put everything into this
Speaker 5: to really like catch the wave and ride it as
Speaker 5: long as we can, because it's not going to last forever.
Speaker 5: And so we just jumped in, and you know, he
Speaker 5: came home with a camera one day, like a like
Speaker 5: a professional sony camera, and I was like, the fuck
Speaker 5: is that for.
Speaker 3: He's like, I'm going to learn how to use it
Speaker 3: and we're going to shoot on it.
Speaker 5: It's going to make like some bomb ass, like really nice,
Speaker 5: beautiful content.
Speaker 4: It took a year before before it beat out the phone. Yeah,
Speaker 4: like batteries not included. Do you get those cameras? You're like,
Speaker 4: why my photo is so bad?
Speaker 1: Yeah?
Speaker 4: And then and then you as you learn, you're like, okay,
Speaker 4: just there's a high skill cap with this, as you know, yes, yes, yeah.
Speaker 5: And then his own technical background, he's like very tech
Speaker 5: savvy and so he you know, helps with buildings, you know,
Speaker 5: some integrations, and we're actually building like a bot that
Speaker 5: helps like be like more like an assistant for us
Speaker 5: when you know, if you want to explain more.
Speaker 3: Yeah, operations, yeah, operations yeah. Yeah.
Speaker 1: So I love that kind of shit. We're we're doing
Speaker 1: a lot of that right now too. One of my
Speaker 1: business partners is like really tech savvy and he's building
Speaker 1: like this whole AI workflow.
Speaker 4: It's pretty great, and we like, I see a lot
Speaker 4: of people using AI and there's like a wrong application
Speaker 4: and a right application. So like in our industry, the
Speaker 4: wrong application is a lot of agencies are using bots
Speaker 4: to chat.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 4: No, no one wants to chat chat with the bot.
Speaker 4: No one wants AI girlfriend content. Uh, it's faked. People
Speaker 4: can see it. It's not genuine. So that's wrong way
Speaker 4: to use AI. The right way to use AI is
Speaker 4: like the back end, tedious work that most people aren't
Speaker 4: aware of. Right. They just think we should content upload
Speaker 4: and we're done. But there's there's calendar work, there's project
Speaker 4: management work, there's communications work, two two five seven work,
Speaker 4: uploading to you know, a dozen different websites, as you know,
Speaker 4: and some a human has to do that, and no
Speaker 4: one enjoys doing that. So that's the perfect use for like, hey, robot,
Speaker 4: like upload the video to all the site, make a
Speaker 4: teaser clip, make sure we're two two five seven compliant.
Speaker 3: Send these documents here, and do all of these other things.
Speaker 1: Which program do you guys use?
Speaker 4: Well, you know, the interesting thing is you can kind
Speaker 4: of plug into any model, but everything's very personal to
Speaker 4: how you run your business. So you just talk to
Speaker 4: the robot and you say I'm trying to solve this problem,
Speaker 4: help me do it, and it rights itself.
Speaker 5: Right.
Speaker 4: You don't need to be a programmer. You just you say,
Speaker 4: I'm trying to solve this problem. Help me solve it.
Speaker 4: So you don't need to go and buy a software solution.
Speaker 4: Like it is its own software solution. It's pretty neat.
Speaker 1: Yeah, so yeah, tell me about this because you're you're
Speaker 1: building this AI to like run your back end business. Like,
Speaker 1: what are some of the biggest tasks that it takes on.
Speaker 4: Well, what's interesting is the way it works now is
Speaker 4: that it holds all the business contexts, so it knows
Speaker 4: all of the posts we make, It knows all the
Speaker 4: people we work with, It knows our calendar, reads our email,
Speaker 4: our brand, so it catches things you don't. It's like, oh, hey,
Speaker 4: you guys are going to schedule to shoot for Friday.
Speaker 4: But Friday, there's a big event that's going to make
Speaker 4: a lot of a noise. Maybe schedule it another day, right,
Speaker 4: Little things like that two Q five seven compliance, like oh,
Speaker 4: this person didn't upload this, or they have a typo
Speaker 4: in their name.
Speaker 5: Even just prepping for this, And when I was trying
Speaker 5: to think of like our bio and like, you know,
Speaker 5: things that we should talk about, I was like, so
Speaker 5: we're going on this podcast, and what do you think
Speaker 5: would be easy to share and talk about and what
Speaker 5: do you think would be interesting? And it like went
Speaker 5: through and like went through all of your stuff and
Speaker 5: was like, I think that these would hit really good
Speaker 5: for Holly and thinks she would enjoy talking about.
Speaker 3: And stuff like that. So it's just like it's literally
Speaker 3: just like a.
Speaker 5: Personal assistant that I can just talk to whenever and
Speaker 5: just like riff back and forth. And you know, we're
Speaker 5: coming up with like a Twitter bio for our studio
Speaker 5: and can only fans bio and like all these different
Speaker 5: bios and captions and what we can say where and
Speaker 5: it like keeps our brand in mind and our voice
Speaker 5: in mind, and then it's like does it want to
Speaker 5: be in Cookie Daddy's voice or Cookies voice and so
Speaker 5: on and so forth. So it gets to know us
Speaker 5: really really well because we literally just talked to it
Speaker 5: all the time.
Speaker 4: Yeah, and most people kind of already get that experience today.
Speaker 4: But the real value add is it it not just
Speaker 4: writing text but doing work for you, like uploading content,
Speaker 4: creating teasers.
Speaker 5: If you give it like a picture, and then he
Speaker 5: trains it to be like a graphics you know artist professional.
Speaker 4: Yeah, role player, Like you're a professional graphic artist and
Speaker 4: your job is every time you generate a teaser or
Speaker 4: some image for the business, make sure it's aesthetic and
Speaker 4: follows our brand guidelines. You know, you have colors for
Speaker 4: your brand.
Speaker 3: That's sort of where it fits in, like a picture.
Speaker 5: So it's like, if we're going to post a picture
Speaker 5: of us to another girl and we need her name
Speaker 5: and then our brand and details around it, it'll take
Speaker 5: any picture and then throw it on there, and then.
Speaker 4: We'll make a make a a flyer for Cookie and
Speaker 4: Cookie's friend. It knows to go search our files.
Speaker 3: For examples of a flyer Cookie's friend for us.
Speaker 5: To do a stream or something like that, and it'll
Speaker 5: take the picture and a picture and put it together
Speaker 5: and do all that stuff, and we can just iterate
Speaker 5: on it constantly, but it just it lives as like
Speaker 5: a text message group chat that we have. We call
Speaker 5: it crumbot. She's pretty sexy. We can show you a
Speaker 5: picture we.
Speaker 3: Made like this, like risk and AI picture of her. Yeah,
Speaker 3: I we'll show you her afterwards. It's pretty hot.
Speaker 1: I love that, Okay. So I kind of want to
Speaker 1: get back into your relationship and how that plays out
Speaker 1: in a sexual way. So Cookie, you identify as a
Speaker 1: demisexual For those people who don't know what that term is,
Speaker 1: what does it mean for you and how does that
Speaker 1: like define what your interests are.
Speaker 5: So demisexual is somebody who it's more than just like
Speaker 5: boy girl the bits. If you're objectively hot, you know,
Speaker 5: you could be the most objectively hot person in the world,
Speaker 5: and like, I would never want to fuck you in
Speaker 5: a million years because I don't have any type of
Speaker 5: like intimate connection with that person. I really it's more
Speaker 5: than just a body Like it's almost like I need
Speaker 5: to talk to you and have this really intimate connection
Speaker 5: with who you are, the way you think and you
Speaker 5: know all of those other things. So it's just a
Speaker 5: more involvement of who the person is inside that allows
Speaker 5: me to become sexually attracted to you. So that kind
Speaker 5: of plays out in how we shoot, because in the past,
Speaker 5: we had you.
Speaker 3: Know, people just hey, you want to shoot, let's do
Speaker 3: a threesome.
Speaker 5: We'd fly them out and then we would shoot, and
Speaker 5: I would be like, wow, that was the most like
Speaker 5: detached experience.
Speaker 3: I hated that. I don't want to do that.
Speaker 5: So it was like a learning experience of like what
Speaker 5: I needed to look inside and what I needed to
Speaker 5: feel fulfillment in that. So when we do collapse now
Speaker 5: we have intro calls with people. Most of the time
Speaker 5: we have to I like to meet people in person
Speaker 5: if we're like at a you know, AVIN or expos
Speaker 5: or wherever, and have a chat with them in person
Speaker 5: and just really like talk to them as a human
Speaker 5: and not like so you're gonna come out and we're
Speaker 5: going to have this three blah, you know. So we
Speaker 5: like to have those kind of conversations. But that plays
Speaker 5: out with uh yeah, with like how we shoot and
Speaker 5: that kind of stuff.
Speaker 1: You also describe yourself as a vixen. You're turned on
Speaker 1: by cookie Daddy being with other people. But you were
Speaker 1: clear that that's not the same as a cut dynamic.
Speaker 1: So can you walk me through the difference.
Speaker 5: Yes, So when we got into to shooting, we had
Speaker 5: a friend who was a hot wife.
Speaker 3: We didn't know what a hot wife was.
Speaker 5: And you know, for people, that's more traditionally known as
Speaker 5: like the wife gets kind of like put out with
Speaker 5: whomever and the guys like get to you know, play
Speaker 5: with them, and traditionally the husband is seen as a cuck.
Speaker 5: But when we were doing our research, a cook is
Speaker 5: somebody who is like actually degraded, like you could never
Speaker 5: fuck your wife as good as I can that kind
Speaker 5: of thing, right, Like there's a degradation aspect to it typically,
Speaker 5: and so they're like, you can't touch, you can't do this,
Speaker 5: you have to sit in the cuck chair and watch
Speaker 5: me fuck your wife. So the inverse of that for
Speaker 5: a male is called a stag. So someone's like, yeah,
Speaker 5: you get to fuck my wife. My wife's pussy is
Speaker 5: so good, you're so lucky you get to fuck her.
Speaker 5: So the flip of that is a vixen in a female.
Speaker 5: So it's kind of like a power bottom dynamic. Where
Speaker 5: it's like I'm like, yeah, ride that dick, baby, that
Speaker 5: dick's feel so good.
Speaker 3: Oh does that feel good too for you?
Speaker 1: Baby?
Speaker 3: That feels so good? Yeah, get the fuck off.
Speaker 5: Like it's like I I hold all the power, and
Speaker 5: if you think that, like for a second, it's any way,
Speaker 5: shape or form other than I'm allowing this to happen
Speaker 5: for you, I will drag you out by your hair
Speaker 5: and it will be fucking gone, right, Like, so that's
Speaker 5: it could be hot? Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, so it's
Speaker 5: it's it's you know, I've kind of talked about this
Speaker 5: in the past with other people and they're like, oh,
Speaker 5: so that's a cook.
Speaker 3: I'm like, it's not a cook. I am not a
Speaker 3: cuck queen.
Speaker 5: I'm not like, oh, I'll wait here baby until you're
Speaker 5: ready to give me your dick.
Speaker 3: I'm like, no, it's my turn. Get the fuck off
Speaker 3: my husband, now it's time. Okay, I want you to
Speaker 3: do this.
Speaker 5: It's kind of like I'm directing, like what's happening, and
Speaker 5: that like helps me, you know, be very sexually into it,
Speaker 5: and you know, I get to talk.
Speaker 3: Dirty to him. I'm like, how's her pussy feel, baby? Yeah,
Speaker 3: that's good?
Speaker 5: Hot.
Speaker 3: Yeah you like that. That feels so good, you know,
Speaker 3: and like that makes me hot, like get all like
Speaker 3: hot hard And then he's.
Speaker 4: Like, yeah, a lot of synergy going on. Yeah, yeah
Speaker 4: it works well for us.
Speaker 3: Yeah it works.
Speaker 1: I remember talking to somebody once who you know, has
Speaker 1: the same kind of dynamic as you guys, and he said,
Speaker 1: it's kind of like if you get a really like
Speaker 1: awesome car and you like want your friends to like
Speaker 1: get to drive it, you know, because you want to
Speaker 1: show it off. Yeah, you know, like do you want
Speaker 1: to drive like this amazing new car that I got. Yeah,
Speaker 1: Like I'll let you have a right around the block.
Speaker 3: Yeah, exactly.
Speaker 4: And I've always been that way with her, like how
Speaker 4: like from day one, how she dresses right like I'm like,
Speaker 4: go full provocative nipple Passy's like that never made me
Speaker 4: insecure and uncomfortable in my guess he's looks super hot,
Speaker 4: like like I hot my wife.
Speaker 5: If anything, He's like, could you put something on a
Speaker 5: little slutier kind of kind of comfort up?
Speaker 3: I really like to see the butt, you know.
Speaker 1: So I mean I think a lot of what that
Speaker 1: entails is like, you know, lack of insecurity. I think
Speaker 1: a lot of you know, a lot of problems I
Speaker 1: think with monogamous relationships. And this is actually speaking for
Speaker 1: someone who's in a monogamous relationship and that's what works
Speaker 1: for us. But I think there's a lot of assumption
Speaker 1: of like ownership and a lot of insecurity about losing
Speaker 1: that partner to somebody else.
Speaker 4: Yeah, Perc, I feel like it's foundational to do this
Speaker 4: correctly because if you don't have that security, you're kind
Speaker 4: of just making things rockier. Yeah, because we've seen people
Speaker 4: in lifestyle where they don't have a solid relationship that
Speaker 4: they're building on. They kind of use us to band
Speaker 4: aid something that's already kind of struggling, and those usually
Speaker 4: crash and burn pretty bad from what we've seen.
Speaker 5: Yeah, it's and you can you can definitely tell when
Speaker 5: people are like they just are in a very open
Speaker 5: relationship and they just can lot eat off without each other.
Speaker 5: And then you can see the other people where you're like, ooh,
Speaker 5: you guys are doing this because you guys are too
Speaker 5: insecure to be alone and to break up, so you're
Speaker 5: just like, I'll just let you fuck whoever, and like
Speaker 5: you can see they're very detached in their relationship. Yeah,
Speaker 5: And that's like not something that even with people that
Speaker 5: we've interviewed for shooting, you know, we get off a call.
Speaker 5: Thankfully it's never really happened, but we've talked to people
Speaker 5: in person where you know, we do the first initial
Speaker 5: like should we engage and maybe ask them to clap,
Speaker 5: and you kind of like get the little feels where
Speaker 5: you're like, hmm, that sounds that seems like a rocky relationship.
Speaker 5: Not quite sure if that's something that we would want
Speaker 5: to like approach and write and bring into into our marriage.
Speaker 1: Now, Cookie Daddy, you're the more sexual of the two,
Speaker 1: So how do you guys balance different appetites inside of
Speaker 1: marriage and a business.
Speaker 4: Well, it used to be struggle for a while, and
Speaker 4: I feel like a lot of I'm assuming heterosexual relationships
Speaker 4: are like this. You know, it's yeah, it's normal to
Speaker 4: have some kind of difference. I don't know what helped us.
Speaker 4: We just just a lot of communication and you just
Speaker 4: do your best to meet in the middle. Because I
Speaker 4: feel like when there's a mismatch in sex drive, usually
Speaker 4: one person feels unwanted and unloved and then the other
Speaker 4: person feels how do you describe it?
Speaker 5: Like for me, it was like, Oh, he doesn't like
Speaker 5: I'm not enough, like I'm not doing enough for him,
Speaker 5: Like I'm like at my max. So I'm just gonna
Speaker 5: like self sacrifice and just like you know, kind of
Speaker 5: check out while he's like having sex with me or
Speaker 5: something like that, and that's not fun.
Speaker 4: So for us, what worked was like understanding the other
Speaker 4: person's mindset and then it kind of like it takes
Speaker 4: the hurt away, right. It used to hurt me, like why,
Speaker 4: like what do you mean you don't want to have
Speaker 4: sex with me? Like like I would you could ask
Speaker 4: me one hundred tis a day and if that's what
Speaker 4: you really needed, I would do it for you. So
Speaker 4: me not getting that reciprocated energy felt hurtful. And that's
Speaker 4: apparently a pretty common like a rejection feeling. So just
Speaker 4: understanding the other frame of mind helps tremendously.
Speaker 3: Yeah, And I think it's also one of those things where.
Speaker 5: Using like we've we've been to couple's marriage counseling just
Speaker 5: so that we can learn how to talk and communicate effectively.
Speaker 5: And one of those things was like you just have
Speaker 5: to learn again kind of what I said in the
Speaker 5: beginning with like the autos connection of not that this
Speaker 5: is anything to do with autism, but like you have
Speaker 5: to learn how to talk to each other in a
Speaker 5: way where it's a safe space.
Speaker 1: Right.
Speaker 5: So it's like, this is my sexual cup, right, My
Speaker 5: sexual cup is only this big, and you know his
Speaker 5: sexual cup is this big, and how.
Speaker 3: Quickly does my deplete versus how quickly does his deplete?
Speaker 5: Right, And just so learning to talk about it in
Speaker 5: those types of senses and then giving each other boundaries
Speaker 5: to work around, you know, like, hey, babe, you know
Speaker 5: we just shot for three days in a row. Like
Speaker 5: the next like day or two, I would really just
Speaker 5: kind of like to take a break.
Speaker 4: Or yeah, something little true. She'll give me a heads
Speaker 4: up rather than me getting like pent up energy, and
Speaker 4: then she shuts me down. She'll be like, hey, FYI,
Speaker 4: I need a couple of days break. Then I can
Speaker 4: like mentally prepare to be.
Speaker 3: He's like canting down.
Speaker 4: It's yeah, I get to And thankfully I'm not like
Speaker 4: eighteen anymore, so it's it's not as bad as it
Speaker 4: used to be. But yeah, I was that teenager, like
Speaker 4: I had my energy was sky high. So I'm actually
Speaker 4: kind of I'm happy it's chilled out a bit me too.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm having a boy, and I'm like not already
Speaker 1: like not looking forward to the teenage years, like oh
Speaker 1: my god, yeah everything that.
Speaker 4: Yeah, and everyone's different because I'm definitely like teenage boys
Speaker 4: on average are elevated, but me was elevated even beyond that.
Speaker 1: Like beyond that. Yeah, yeah, what kind of boundaries do
Speaker 1: you guys actually have in place that like work for you?
Speaker 3: For right now?
Speaker 5: We have a no kissing rule for him with other women. Okay,
Speaker 5: so he can fuck other women, he can eat pussy,
Speaker 5: he can kiss bodies, just no mouth to mouth like
Speaker 5: kissing and making out. That was something that for me
Speaker 5: it just felt too intimate. And at that point, it's
Speaker 5: like I just wanted to reserve something just for like
Speaker 5: us that's super intimate.
Speaker 4: But the boundaries are actually really great because it creates
Speaker 4: a safe space.
Speaker 1: And I'm saving that you guys talk about this with
Speaker 1: their scene partners before.
Speaker 4: Yeah, we go we go through on the before every
Speaker 4: shoot because everyone's so different and everyone does a right
Speaker 4: to feel heard and safe.
Speaker 1: And respected respected.
Speaker 5: Yeah, so we we we'll do all of the like
Speaker 5: social media and all that stuff, and then we cut
Speaker 5: and we said, okay, we're gonna have a consent boundary
Speaker 5: talk and we all sit down and we like talk
Speaker 5: about it in detailed yes, no ad specifics. We have
Speaker 5: a very like detailed checklist of like what they're okay
Speaker 5: with and what they're not hard knows all that stuff.
Speaker 3: So that's worked for us. Another thing for me.
Speaker 5: Personally that you know, we used to do lifestyle and shooting,
Speaker 5: and for me that just became too much. And so
Speaker 5: while I really love being in the lifestyle space, playing
Speaker 5: with strangers and then also filming with other people became
Speaker 5: too much for me. And so we will go to
Speaker 5: lifestyle events, but we won't play with other people, but
Speaker 5: we'll just like to explore it and hang out and
Speaker 5: meet people and put on a really great show. Because somehow, somewhere,
Speaker 5: you know, someone will always ask what I do and
Speaker 5: they're like, oh, my gosh, a porn stars here, and
Speaker 5: then like everyone wants to like watch me fuck for
Speaker 5: some reason, as if it's like a spectacle or they're like, oh,
Speaker 5: the porn stars, we must watch her. And then I'm like,
Speaker 5: I mean, like, guys, if you want a show on
Speaker 5: a show, you know, and so I'm like, I'm like
Speaker 5: doing all all the things you know versus.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm like, I'm like fucking me upside down.
Speaker 5: You know, if we ever catch me at a lifestyle party,
Speaker 5: just be like, Cookie, let's see it cameras on. Then
Speaker 5: I'll just like I'll just go for it. So you
Speaker 5: love the camera, I do. I love a good performance.
Speaker 5: I love putting on a really good performance. And that's
Speaker 5: kind of where we started to think about, you know,
Speaker 5: what we wanted to do long term, and that's kind
Speaker 5: of where we like kind of got into like the
Speaker 5: studio aspect, because we really wanted to like create this
Speaker 5: like look and feel and brand and all of that.
Speaker 5: And you know, we filmed last night and I was
Speaker 5: going for it. It was just like it was hot, So.
Speaker 1: Tell me about the studio.
Speaker 3: So the studio is called she Crumbled, so it's a
Speaker 3: playoff of our names and do you want to?
Speaker 5: And it was just something where we kind of sat
Speaker 5: down and you know, as much as we love the
Speaker 5: fan sites they're great, they have been getting really just
Speaker 5: strange with I'm not even quite sure what because we
Speaker 5: have all the documentation, we have all the tags, but
Speaker 5: there was one day where I just woke up and
Speaker 5: fifteen of my videos got deleted out of my only fans,
Speaker 5: and they were like improper tagging, and I like sent
Speaker 5: the screenshot, sent the paperwork, here's all of the stuff, like,
Speaker 5: and they're like, well, not enough people are tagged. I'm like,
Speaker 5: there's four people in the video, myself included. I don't
Speaker 5: what do you want me to do? And they were
Speaker 5: just like, oh, sorry, we deleted it, and so then
Speaker 5: I would have to try and re upload it, and
Speaker 5: of course I can't because it's the same video and
Speaker 5: us I'm going to change the metadata, but like, you know,
Speaker 5: then I'm just playing with the OnlyFans, Gods of them
Speaker 5: deleting my account because they're like, keep uploading this video.
Speaker 5: So you know, I was like getting tired of it,
Speaker 5: and so we had a discussion of like where is
Speaker 5: a where is a place where we can just post
Speaker 5: the content that we have and you know, build it
Speaker 5: the way that we want and have control over it
Speaker 5: the way we want.
Speaker 3: And that's where the studio came up. And obviously it's you.
Speaker 5: Know, I don't want to be necessarily sixty and being
Speaker 5: like that's.
Speaker 3: My thirtieth sane this this.
Speaker 5: Year, you know, like obviously I want to like retire
Speaker 5: at some point and just take time off and shoot
Speaker 5: for funzies or whatever. So we talked and sat down
Speaker 5: and we started working on it, and yeah, it's like
Speaker 5: finally coming to fruition after like quite some time.
Speaker 1: So the studio, then the content that you guys are
Speaker 1: shooting for the studio will go on like a personal website.
Speaker 5: Yeah, it's called she crumble dot com. Okay, okay, got it. Yeah,
Speaker 5: so we own the domain.
Speaker 1: And then you guys are like you have your own
Speaker 1: like CMS and your host I mean, I have my
Speaker 1: own website to have like elevated extra cyms.
Speaker 4: And our own space. We don't have to worry about
Speaker 4: platforms censoring us, shutting us down. You own your own
Speaker 4: user basengs.
Speaker 3: We're abiding by you know, the right the regular rules.
Speaker 1: Send in like the monthly checklist now to like seg
Speaker 1: pay about like yeah, and like you have to have
Speaker 1: the special form that people can like that like says
Speaker 1: exactly what you're going to do if like content needs
Speaker 1: to be taken. It's all like stand with something to do. Yeah,
Speaker 1: it's just wild because I've had my own site for
Speaker 1: like twenty years and like the work that I have
Speaker 1: to do now just to like keep it up. Yes
Speaker 1: they can pay. It's crazy.
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, I know.
Speaker 5: It was one of those things where we were just like, oh,
Speaker 5: two two five sevens front of ID, and they're like,
Speaker 5: we need front of I D back of ID, Sonny
Speaker 5: Bunny airs two forms of ID, this form two two
Speaker 5: five seven on. Yeah, and then they're like and sign
Speaker 5: the life of your first born child away and you're
Speaker 5: like and then a consent check in video and a
Speaker 5: consent checkout video and like all these things and like,
Speaker 5: thankfully we've shot for mainstream, so like we were able
Speaker 5: to watch what they do and we were like, remember they.
Speaker 3: Did that video.
Speaker 5: Okay, I'm going to text so and so I'm going
Speaker 5: to ask them for the question so that like we
Speaker 5: have something that we're doing and you know, and obviously
Speaker 5: we won't have that for all of our videos since
Speaker 5: we we have over like three four hundred videos. You know,
Speaker 5: we just have the basic two two five seven and
Speaker 5: then the only fans released for them and like no
Speaker 5: one's going to take that and then the ID, so
Speaker 5: you know, we'll have to, you know, just keep working
Speaker 5: for it and make sure we stay complying with everything.
Speaker 5: And yeah, just it's a lot of work. Everyone just
Speaker 5: thinks like you just shoot porn and post it.
Speaker 3: So much more than that.
Speaker 1: It's so much work. I actually remember when when two
Speaker 1: two five seven came about and that became a law,
Speaker 1: and I was working for my parents at the time.
Speaker 1: My dad was like bitching about it because before that
Speaker 1: you never had to keep like the because now you
Speaker 1: have to keep on record people's ideas, social Security number,
Speaker 1: all this personal information and on file. Yeah, and it
Speaker 1: has to be there, like if they want to come
Speaker 1: and like check it outs, want to come and fucking
Speaker 1: audit you, you got to make sure that you have
Speaker 1: all that stuff. And I just remember my dad being like,
Speaker 1: this is so much paperwork?
Speaker 4: Is this is why we use the robots now?
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 4: I used to be like this is awful, but now.
Speaker 1: We have we have like filing cabinets. Yes, going back,
Speaker 1: like so I have so much fucking paperwork. It's just
Speaker 1: like bizarre.
Speaker 5: Yeah, and then having to digitize that yeah one day,
Speaker 5: Oh it's all digitized now yeah.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm sure, but but yeah, yeah, it's a fucking process.
Speaker 5: Yeah.
Speaker 4: We visited visited one of the major studios back offices
Speaker 4: and it's just like exactly what we described. Tons of
Speaker 4: filing cabinets. I'm like, that's got to be two five.
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, so much fun. Okay, so you guys obviously
Speaker 1: work a lot. How do you guys keep a work
Speaker 1: life balance as a married couple so that it's not
Speaker 1: all about work all the time. Are you laughing because
Speaker 1: that doesn't happen. You're like, what work in progress?
Speaker 3: I'm yeah.
Speaker 5: The thing is is the thing that is probably one
Speaker 5: of the best things about us is that we both
Speaker 5: are workaholics and we both love working.
Speaker 4: We enjoy it.
Speaker 3: We enjoy it.
Speaker 5: So you know how many times people have said, like,
Speaker 5: you guys are workaholics.
Speaker 3: You guys are workaholics.
Speaker 5: I'm like, yeah, but like we're both workaholics. So it's
Speaker 5: like we're still spending time together and we're there. Does
Speaker 5: that mean like, you know, we don't get ourselves burnt out?
Speaker 5: We definitely do, but we're.
Speaker 4: Very goal oriented though somewhere, you know, we're always going
Speaker 4: for something.
Speaker 5: The amount of podcasts I've listened to and you know they,
Speaker 5: you know, all of these financial gurus, and like they
Speaker 5: always go back to the same message. They say, the
Speaker 5: most important decision you're ever going to make in your
Speaker 5: life is who you marry right, because if you have
Speaker 5: a partner who's like, why are you always working? Why you
Speaker 5: haven't paying attention to me, and then you're being an entrepreneur,
Speaker 5: like it's that's hard. That's a really hard thing. But
Speaker 5: when we're both like there together and we're just the
Speaker 5: other day, he's given me a.
Speaker 3: Pep talk because I'm like, oh, this thing flopped, or.
Speaker 5: Oh I implemented this new like you know, welcome video
Speaker 5: and I thought it would like take off and be amazing.
Speaker 5: Or I did this new campaign or whatever and no
Speaker 5: one bought anything and I hated it. And then this
Speaker 5: and then you know, I get down on myself. He's
Speaker 5: there like tearing me on, right, or vice versa. He's like, well,
Speaker 5: I wish I just did something like this more.
Speaker 3: I wish I was.
Speaker 5: Better at this, And I just feel like I don't
Speaker 5: know what I'm doing when it comes to marketing the studio,
Speaker 5: and I'm like, of course, we haven't even launched it yet,
Speaker 5: like you know, we don't know what we're doing, and like,
Speaker 5: you know, just being there to like pep talk each
Speaker 5: other up, I think like we do a really good
Speaker 5: job or not, you know, but we probably do need
Speaker 5: to set a little bit more boundaries. Yeah, I was like, hey, Friday,
Speaker 5: you want to like, you know, drive to LA and
Speaker 5: shoot more than.
Speaker 1: Are you Guys like the couple that like have a
Speaker 1: hard time going on vacation and not like just great content.
Speaker 4: We're going on vacation well well.
Speaker 3: Not and not shooting content.
Speaker 4: Well it depends. So most of our trips we we
Speaker 4: like to blend it. Yeah, you know the problem. We
Speaker 4: like to have a reason for where like we'll go
Speaker 4: see a friend and then we'll do some work related thing.
Speaker 4: We did take our first like true vacation for me.
Speaker 3: Like it's a text right all exactly exactly.
Speaker 4: And we're in one of those industries where, oddly enough
Speaker 4: you can justify a lot of expenses that normally you
Speaker 4: couldn't in other industries because it is in pursuit of
Speaker 4: an income. So it's like totally valid. But we did
Speaker 4: take our first like true vacation.
Speaker 3: Yes, since probably since our our honeymoon. We went to Japan.
Speaker 3: We went to Japan for two weeks.
Speaker 4: And we were fully checked out there. We just food traveled.
Speaker 5: We like we had like our camera, but it was
Speaker 5: more for just us to film stuff and like just
Speaker 5: be fun.
Speaker 3: And like for the mems and you know, yeah we did.
Speaker 5: We did film a couple of like social media like tiktoks,
Speaker 5: like me running across Shibuia, like crossing and like that
Speaker 5: silly stuff.
Speaker 3: But it wasn't like work, and it was the best
Speaker 3: two weeks.
Speaker 5: It was not a business right, No, that one was
Speaker 5: not a business right, And we just had the most
Speaker 5: amazing time.
Speaker 1: So that sounds awesome.
Speaker 3: It was great.
Speaker 1: I'd love to go to Japan one day. I don't
Speaker 1: feel like trouble is in my future. Okay, So I
Speaker 1: want to talk to you a little bit about your
Speaker 1: body makeup.
Speaker 2: Yes, not physical, yes, yes, but yeah, because we spoke
Speaker 2: about it a.
Speaker 1: Little bit before the podcast, and I was like super
Speaker 1: interested because you have an inside out pussy.
Speaker 3: Yes, inside out that I need to know more. We will.
Speaker 3: I will show you, I will show you act.
Speaker 1: I'm very excited.
Speaker 5: First off, I didn't even know, you know, that my
Speaker 5: pussy was any different than anyone else's, because you know,
Speaker 5: I did watch porn, you know, growing up, but there's
Speaker 5: always so many being fucked or there's a finger in there.
Speaker 5: So I was just like, well, I don't know, maybe
Speaker 5: mine does if you push it in like it looks normal.
Speaker 5: But when I was twenty I found out that I
Speaker 5: was born without a uterus.
Speaker 3: It's just like a birth effect.
Speaker 5: And because of that, so the way the anatomy works, right,
Speaker 5: so you have like the entrance of your vagina and
Speaker 5: then you have the vaginal canal that leads up to
Speaker 5: your cervix that attaches to your uterus. Well, if there's
Speaker 5: no uterus and there's no cervix, you still have the
Speaker 5: vaginal canal because that's what's forming as you're you know,
Speaker 5: forming as a kid or as a baby.
Speaker 3: It doesn't have anything to attach to.
Speaker 5: So this tissue just comes out and it's called a prolapse.
Speaker 5: And it wasn't even until I was like getting laser
Speaker 5: hair removal and like sitting in the chair, leg spread
Speaker 5: and she's like, oh, you have a prolapse vagina And
Speaker 5: I was like, excuse me, ma'am, what is that? It
Speaker 5: was like every couple of years, I just like kept
Speaker 5: finding out things about myself.
Speaker 3: Like what twenty I found out I didn't have a uterus.
Speaker 5: I was like, Okay, I got to deal with that
Speaker 5: emotional trauma, but sure we work through that. Great moving on.
Speaker 5: Then I go for my first PAP smear, and I
Speaker 5: have a doctor who's like, let's do the pap smear.
Speaker 5: She is like looking inside, She's like hmm. I'm like,
Speaker 5: I would really like you to not make that sound
Speaker 5: when you're like inside my vagina right now, thank you.
Speaker 5: And she's like, you know, I'm just the nurse. Let
Speaker 5: me go grab the obgyn. And I was like, okay,
Speaker 5: obgan comes in. I got two people up in there,
Speaker 5: and they will go hmm. I'm like, once again, I
Speaker 5: really like you guys to stop doing that. And they're like,
Speaker 5: let's get one more just in case, and I'm like what,
Speaker 5: we have a whole circus in here, like I'm like
Speaker 5: spread on the table just like look.
Speaker 3: I'm not uh huh. And then they all just go
Speaker 3: and I cannot make this up. They all just go hmm.
Speaker 3: I said, all right, okay, I literally get off the steps.
Speaker 3: I said, I really need you guys to stop saying that.
Speaker 3: What the fuck is going on? And they're like, so
Speaker 3: we can't really seem to find your cervix and like,
Speaker 3: what the fuck do you mean? Is there like a map?
Speaker 3: Is it lost? Like is like what's going on?
Speaker 5: And they're like you know, and they're all talking and
Speaker 5: they're like, you don't have a uterus, right, And they're
Speaker 5: like yes, And then they're like, if you don't have
Speaker 5: a uterus, chances are you also don't have a cervix.
Speaker 5: I'm like, oh my gosh, you know those like shots
Speaker 5: that you got to like for cervical cancer. I'm like,
Speaker 5: so you're telling me I didn't fucking need those those things,
Speaker 5: fucking her. I'm like running through all these things that
Speaker 5: I'm like getting angry about right in my head, and
Speaker 5: they're like, yeah, you don't have fun. I'm like, well,
Speaker 5: I guess that's one last thing I have to worry
Speaker 5: about as a woman.
Speaker 1: So wait when they found out that you didn't have
Speaker 1: a uterus? When how did they find that out?
Speaker 2: So?
Speaker 5: I I've never had a period, right, But I was
Speaker 5: a dancer, cheerleader, like super active my whole life, so
Speaker 5: it wasn't abnormal. My family women are also late bloomers
Speaker 5: for that, so it wasn't abnormal. When I was like
Speaker 5: sixteen seventeen not getting a period, eighteen started getting a
Speaker 5: little weird, I was like, what's going on?
Speaker 3: So I actually did go to the doctor.
Speaker 5: I went to the ogo an she had a little
Speaker 5: pelvic exam, and she was like, you know, we're gonna
Speaker 5: need to have you get at an ultrasound. At that time,
Speaker 5: my dad lost his business, which we lost our health insurance,
Speaker 5: so I wasn't able to go back to the doctor
Speaker 5: until we figured it out. But by that time I
Speaker 5: kind of was like I just in my head, I
Speaker 5: think I was afraid to hear the news.
Speaker 3: So I kind of was like, well, I've made it
Speaker 3: this far, so like, what's the big deal.
Speaker 5: And then I met Cookie Daddy and I was like,
Speaker 5: you know, I think he could be it and I
Speaker 5: should probably go find out.
Speaker 3: And I went and the.
Speaker 5: I went to UCLA, was trying to go to like
Speaker 5: best doctors, trying to figure out exactly what's wrong with me.
Speaker 5: And that doctor was like, I knew because when I
Speaker 5: went inside and I pushed on your stomach, I should
Speaker 5: feel something and your first doctor should have told you
Speaker 5: that two years ago.
Speaker 3: And so I was like, great, love that for me.
Speaker 5: So I dealt with that and then yeah, I was
Speaker 5: just going in for a routine check up when I
Speaker 5: was in college and they were like, when is was
Speaker 5: your lap?
Speaker 3: Perhapsmeir never got one, so let's do it. Then they
Speaker 3: find that out.
Speaker 1: It just seems odd that they would figure out you
Speaker 1: to didn't ever uterus, but then also didn't know that
Speaker 1: you didn't have a service, Like you.
Speaker 3: Think that you think they would say, well, right, that's
Speaker 3: what I'm saying.
Speaker 5: I'm like, can everybody just give me like a full
Speaker 5: comprehensive list of like all the organs I'm missing so
Speaker 5: I can just like move the fuck on with my
Speaker 5: life and like thanks?
Speaker 3: You know.
Speaker 5: So, yeah, it's just been one thing after the next,
Speaker 5: and then getting into the industry, uh, you know, once
Speaker 5: you kind of start seeing like all the pussies, I'm like, wow,
Speaker 5: I've never seen anybody with mine. And I was starting
Speaker 5: to get very self conscious, and so I actually was
Speaker 5: trying to find.
Speaker 3: Medical tools that you can like put inside to like
Speaker 3: hold you in.
Speaker 5: But because of my anatomy and because I had no
Speaker 5: pulvic floor, because your public floor is what holds your
Speaker 5: uterus up, yeah, that muscle just like essentially atro feed,
Speaker 5: and so I really didn't have like a public floor
Speaker 5: at all.
Speaker 3: And so you know, I was very very self conscious.
Speaker 5: And I remember are going into Slade when they called me,
Speaker 5: which like they were my protein debut, and like I
Speaker 5: was like, oh my gosh, I love them, and I
Speaker 5: remember having to bend over and like pull my cheeks
Speaker 5: apart for them to like take a picture for like
Speaker 5: you know, the directors for choosing, like I guess what
Speaker 5: kind of models they want to like put together.
Speaker 1: Wait, they took a picture of your vagina, I think so, yeah,
Speaker 1: to decide what other girls.
Speaker 3: I'm assuming I didn't really ask, they just like to
Speaker 3: a picture.
Speaker 1: I never heard of that really.
Speaker 4: No, No, when they when they onboarded you, they have
Speaker 4: a database of models, so when they're trying to put
Speaker 4: people together together talent, I don't think it has anything
Speaker 4: to do with like you're natty right.
Speaker 3: No, no, no, no, That's what I'm saying.
Speaker 4: Okay, too cute.
Speaker 5: Yeah, but like I bend over and I like opened
Speaker 5: up my my cheeks and they took a picture.
Speaker 3: Is that no? Normal?
Speaker 4: No?
Speaker 3: Oh, okay, well news today.
Speaker 1: I've never asked for a picture of a girl's like
Speaker 1: vagina to book them or to think about like pairing
Speaker 1: vaginas together. I try to pair like height and like
Speaker 1: ye like coloring.
Speaker 4: Huh.
Speaker 5: But maybe they're like maybe they're like this pussy and
Speaker 5: this pussy would look fantastic together.
Speaker 1: I mean, you know, attention to detail. They're a very
Speaker 1: successful web.
Speaker 5: Like lips, and these lips would looking each other. That's
Speaker 5: probably so I just remember being like very self conscious.
Speaker 5: So I was like, oh my gosh, I wonder if
Speaker 5: they're going to just like hate what I look like.
Speaker 2: You know.
Speaker 5: Obviously that wasn't the case. I've shot three times for
Speaker 5: them with amazing co stars, so but it wasn't until
Speaker 5: I was actually on a stream and uh, they did
Speaker 5: like a pussy comparison, and I remember like my heart
Speaker 5: just like pumping, and I was like about to cry
Speaker 5: because I didn't know that that's what the ticket show
Speaker 5: was going to be.
Speaker 3: And it's a camera like right up in.
Speaker 5: There and you literally like give a detail about your pussy,
Speaker 5: and so I was just like everyone was doing it,
Speaker 5: and so I sat there and said, all.
Speaker 3: Right, let's rock it out.
Speaker 5: And so I it was like the first time I
Speaker 5: had really like talked about it, like very in detail
Speaker 5: and explained it to a bunch of people, and all
Speaker 5: of the girls were like, that's amazing, Oh my gosh,
Speaker 5: you have so such a unique pussy, and they posted
Speaker 5: that I think it was on porn Hub and they
Speaker 5: the messages I get from a bunch of people being like,
Speaker 5: it was very admirable for you to talk about your
Speaker 5: birth the fact, and because of that, like I feel
Speaker 5: a lot more comfortable about mine, and so like sharing
Speaker 5: that story actually like kind of like was very wholesome
Speaker 5: and like warmed my heart in like a way that
Speaker 5: I just.
Speaker 3: Really didn't expect.
Speaker 5: And like my fans too, Like now I talk about
Speaker 5: it very openly on my live streams every week and they're.
Speaker 1: Like, we love your plastic cockey.
Speaker 3: That's amazing, you know, So they're just like my hype guys.
Speaker 1: And a lot of women are really self conscious about
Speaker 1: their vagina, but like men just like vagina, Yeah.
Speaker 4: It doesn't matter, one of those things, like you can't
Speaker 4: change certain things about yourself.
Speaker 1: Were you nervous about him seeing it for the first time.
Speaker 5: No, because back then I just didn't I didn't know, okay, Yeah,
Speaker 5: And like that was like the other thing he had
Speaker 5: told me when I was like, Babe, just like don't
Speaker 5: get up close, like get a different angle or like
Speaker 5: let me just like finger myself or whatever.
Speaker 3: He's like, Babe. In the amount of guys that you
Speaker 3: have slept with in the past.
Speaker 5: Have they ever been like looked at your pussy and
Speaker 5: said no, yeah, And I was like no, and he's like, okay,
Speaker 5: you have nothing to worry about that baby like you are.
Speaker 5: You are beautiful exactly the way that you are, and
Speaker 5: everyone is going to learn to appreciate that. So now
Speaker 5: it's kind of like, you know, I'm like, I have
Speaker 5: the most unique pussy in the industry.
Speaker 3: Show me a more unique pussy than that. I don't know,
Speaker 3: but uh yeah.
Speaker 1: So and you said that you've had to like teach
Speaker 1: girls how to finger you probably yes.
Speaker 5: Yes, okay, so because of how the anatomy is, and
Speaker 5: you'll see when when I show you the picture, you're like, okay,
Speaker 5: I get it.
Speaker 3: You have to like there.
Speaker 5: Is a almost like a little U ball. It's like
Speaker 5: a little ball that like sits out and you have
Speaker 5: to push and like push that back up inside. So
Speaker 5: girls don't know to how how much force they have
Speaker 5: to do. It's not like they're jabbing it in there,
Speaker 5: but you have to push harder than you know. Obviously
Speaker 5: a girl that just has like an open hole. And
Speaker 5: so before we shoot our threesomes, if we haven't shot
Speaker 5: a girl girl beforehand, or you know, right before we
Speaker 5: shoot the girl. Girl, I'm like, come over here and
Speaker 5: let's do an anatomy lesson and I go take your
Speaker 5: fingers and just push and they're like.
Speaker 3: Even with my nails.
Speaker 5: I'm like, there's no feeling at the online tissue, Like
Speaker 5: even with your your non lesbian fingernails, you can push.
Speaker 3: Those bad boys up in there and it'll agree.
Speaker 5: And just you know, this is how it works because
Speaker 5: in the past I used to not do that, And
Speaker 5: then the girls are trying to figure it out and like,
Speaker 5: in all honesty, I've been like poked in the pe
Speaker 5: hole before and that They're like, oh, that must yeah,
Speaker 5: and I'm like I've literally been like whoop and I'm like, no,
Speaker 5: that's not the hole, the other one.
Speaker 3: And you gotta make the hole, you know, you gotta
Speaker 3: org got me back up inside me.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 5: So it's a it's been interesting, but now I just
Speaker 5: own it and it's silly and it's funny, and you know,
Speaker 5: the girls are like ha ha, They're like, oh, this
Speaker 5: is fun. You know.
Speaker 1: It's amazing how like sex work and exposing yourself in
Speaker 1: such a vulnerable way can actually help you accept your
Speaker 1: body the way that it is, rather than like carry
Speaker 1: this like secret shame with yourself, you know, like yeah,
Speaker 1: because you don't get that feedback.
Speaker 4: It's perfect, right, you just gotta yea all what you got.
Speaker 5: Can't change it, and there's nothing there's nothing wrong with that. Yeah,
Speaker 5: dicks coming all shapes and sizes, pussy's coming all. They're
Speaker 5: like a little bit more uniform, I think, but like
Speaker 5: they're also like you know, there's all over the place.
Speaker 1: Speaking, I have dicks. Because this is a question that
Speaker 1: we get pretty frequently. Here is penis that is important
Speaker 1: to you personally?
Speaker 3: For me, it's not.
Speaker 5: I definitely think there has to be a minimum of
Speaker 5: like I have to be able to feel it up
Speaker 5: inside me. Otherwise you better be very very great with
Speaker 5: your tongue and your finger.
Speaker 3: But for me, I'm not like a size queen.
Speaker 5: The opposite of that, though, is because I don't have
Speaker 5: a cervix, I can take a pretty fucking large dick.
Speaker 5: So Cookie Daddy is very well endowed. He's got a
Speaker 5: very grothy dick. He has been told by many of
Speaker 5: our co stars. They are like, wow, that's a girthy boy.
Speaker 5: I'm like, yep, and I can just get you know,
Speaker 5: I can take it.
Speaker 1: If I get to see a picture of Virgina cause
Speaker 1: they see a picture of a penis. Just because you
Speaker 1: like talked it up.
Speaker 3: Feel we may have one or two them.
Speaker 1: Oh my god, amazing. Well, thank you guys so much
Speaker 1: for coming on. It's been such a pure It's amazing.
Speaker 1: I appreciate you driving all the way up of course
Speaker 1: to come here. I know it was a bit of
Speaker 1: a drive, so.
Speaker 4: You know what we call up here quite a bit.
Speaker 3: Yeah, we loved it, so thank you.
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Speaker 3: Please?
Speaker 5: Yes? So you can find us on cookie Jarfficial dot
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Speaker 3: Bye.