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Speaker 1: And that's why I never read the comment. I just

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want to like, I'm not even gonna look amazing tonight.

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I love what you're wearing. Said, Oh my god, you're

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all I have an angry clows.

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Speaker 2: That is life.

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Speaker 3: But that's hard, like unless it's like an NBA team

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A real married couple who actually make content together and

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have been together for nearly twelve years. To prove it,

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they met at a rave in southern California and when

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one of them was still in college did the long

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distance thing, got married, and somewhere along the way, both

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coming from tech backgrounds, decided to point that same analytical

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business minded brain at adult content. Cookie launcher of in

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twenty twenty one, and they've shot for browsers, Naughty America

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and Vixen's Slade line, landed in Browser's twentieth anniversary Coffee

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table book, and have now launched their own studio. She crumbled.

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They even built their own AI to run the business.

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Please welcome Cookie and Cookie Daddy.

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Speaker 3: Yay.

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Speaker 1: So so I do have to ask first, just because

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it's on your shirts. Yes, So, for those of you

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who are not watching this on YouTube, a Cookie is

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wearing a shirt that says I love my autistic husband,

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and Cookie Daddy is wearing a shirt that says autism

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with a skeleton who's like blasting and coming out of

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like a firebomb.

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Speaker 4: With like this is how people view met it.

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Speaker 5: We were looking at outfits and our assistant was like,

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let's get whimsy with this, and then she's like, wear

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your autism shirts, and so we are like, we.

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Speaker 1: Are, it's better than wearing that. Do you remember, like

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that shirt that was really popular for a long time.

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Speaker 2: I was stupid, yes, and it had like yes, yes, no,

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that's sometinitely not us, but this is more we like

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to be a little silly whimsy with us.

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Speaker 1: So talk to me a little bit about living with autism,

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because I'm going to assume that the shirts are not

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just jokes.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, well truth, yes, no one told me about it

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for the first thirty years. And then we were watching

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Love on the Spectrum on the Spectrum and they have it.

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clearly the high functioning everything's fine kind of level. But

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we were watching these people and she was like.

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Speaker 5: Wow, it's so interesting that people feel this way and

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behave this way. Because I have a background in communications

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from college, and I was like, this is just something

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I didn't expect. And and then you know, I was like,

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but I'm like, you know, I kind of relate to this,

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especially when I was younger, Right, it's you kind of

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like learning. You can grow through a lot of this

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and work around it. But when I was young, I'm

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like a lot of the frustrations they run into I'm like,

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signs that you had as a child.

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the tags off. I was always solo. All my friends

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are nowaday virgins ADHD everywhere. Wife got in the computers,

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understanding like when it would fall apart or how it

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fell apart. Right, Like say, like you know, you throw

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a party and you're like, okay, day time, and then

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just like everyone said they would come, and then the

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day and time come and then like only a couple

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check in and like all the things that like I'm

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fun committee, where he's like, Babe, this would be fun.

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planning it and doing it and like, you know, because

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you were saying that, you know, you've had trouble in

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the past of understanding like at what time or what

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like group of people you could say certain things to

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like strangers versus like acquaintances versus like close fronts.

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Speaker 3: And yeah, levels of disclosure, which most.

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Speaker 4: People learn intuitively and I learn as well, but I

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need to be explicitly told this is why you do

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or don't do something right, because there's usually an emotional

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component and that part of my brain is just a

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is that like something? I mean you guys, having your relationship.

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really good it's easy for me to separate work versus emotion.

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joke like my husband has the emotional intelligence of a rock,

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because like sometimes he would just like it was the

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words I was using that we needed to bridge the

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disconnect for him to know, like I have to be

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very explicit. That hurt my feelings and this is why, right,

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that we're speaking completely different languages. We're just kind of

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maybe having different dialects of a language and they're not connecting,

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and so we have to just make sure we have

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explicit phrases that trigger his attention to be like, oh,

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I'm locked in. This is an emotional thing, right, because

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he would just go analytical if I said something, it

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would be, you know, problem solve, problem solve, problem solve,

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my emotions and I want those to be validat most.

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Speaker 4: Guys fall into anyways. For sure, it's a little bit.

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I'm also just a normal guy. Yeah, yeah, yeah, so's

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there's a string hit.

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a super common disconnect between men and women because my

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husband's the same way. Like I'll tell him something and

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he's like, do this, do this, do this. I'm like,

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first of all, I know what I'm doing. Yes, I

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got it. I don't need your advice. I just want

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a bitch.

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Speaker 3: Yeah.

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Speaker 4: It took me years to learn that, But now I

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go to her and like I can sniff it out now.

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I'm like, do you want a solution or you just

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want to vent? Yeah, and I want to vent. I'm like, yeah,

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fuck that bitch.

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Speaker 5: It just took some time for us to learn how

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to talk through that and just to be able to

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learn like how to express emotions properly back and forth.

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Speaker 1: Okay, so let's start at how you guys met. You

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met at a rave, right.

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Speaker 3: We did. We met at a rave.

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Speaker 5: It was a lot minute thing. My friend had a

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ticket last minute, invited me to go. His friend invited

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him last minute. He was living in the Bay. I

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it was a camping event and we you know, go

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in and I remember that rave. I was like girls

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only like with my friends, like yeah, this and that,

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and then I see this man and I still remember

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he had a Yoshi backpack, shirtless welder goggles and these

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like tan cactus shorts, and I was like, oh my god.

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Speaker 3: I was like my guys and did like the little

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host little like creep up thing.

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Speaker 5: I'm more of like a I'm like a tease where

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I'm like, she's you know, like notice me, but I'm

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gonna make some serious eye contact at you.

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Speaker 3: Like I was like staring him down.

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Speaker 4: And even I could read that. I'm like, oh man,

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horror film where every time you like turn your head,

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she's a couple of feet closer, and the next thing

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you know, she's like under my chin. I'm like, okay,

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I think I need to talk to her. She wants

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me to talk to her.

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Speaker 1: Yeah.

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Speaker 4: It wasn't you know, it wasn't scary, but like she

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just kept magically getting closer coming. I'm like, okay, I

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have to say something. At that point, I was a

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little panicked and I had no game. Still don't have

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a game, right, yeah, I was not in my skill set.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I'm like, man, like small talk do I say

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to this girl? I'm like, I just said something dumb

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Speaker 3: Can I say what you actually?

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Speaker 4: No, no, that's not we don't need to relive it.

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Speaker 1: Maybe off camera.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, that's the other thing. I'm like, can I

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Speaker 2: Yeah?

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Speaker 5: So it was like you know this and that. I

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and then I don't know. At some point we ended

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up just like kind of like coming back together. And

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into me. And then come to find out that, you know,

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he had gone to moon a little too hard and I

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Speaker 4: My first time going to the moon too, and I

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Speaker 3: It was. It was yeah, rocket ship.

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Speaker 4: And I looked for her. I'm like, hey, my friends

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just waved me goodbye and I can't form words right now.

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Speaker 3: I need you to not leave me.

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Speaker 5: And I was like, I've never gone to the moon,

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and I was like, okay, do you need water?

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Speaker 3: Do you need this? Like do we need to go

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Speaker 5: Like I start panicking and he's like he's just like,

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uh huh sure, and like he you know, in his

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money he told me after he's like I just knew

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this person was going to take care of me.

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Speaker 4: Until you went and went to get some water.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, And then I was like, brow your phone.

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Speaker 4: And then time dilation happens, so I'm like this girl's

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Speaker 5: I was gone for like five minutes, and I'm like,

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I like, come back to where he is.

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Speaker 3: And I'm like running through the crowd. Has anybody seeing

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a guy in this and this?

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Speaker 5: And everyone's looking at me like that, Yeah, everyone's like bitch,

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that's like every guy here.

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Speaker 3: And I'm like, I'm like, oh my god.

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Speaker 5: And then i'd come to find out he was just

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making these like figure eights like he would just.

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Speaker 4: Because I would start walking like maybe she's over here,

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and then I'd like, oh, I've walked too far, walk back,

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So I just sat down. Eventually I'm like this, I'm

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not getting anywhere. I'll just hang here.

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Speaker 5: Yeah. So at the end of it, he was you know,

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he came out of space and was like, let me

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walk you back to your campsite. And we ended up

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like being like tent right next Our tents were right

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next to each other.

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Speaker 3: Oh wow, yeah, like two tents away from each other.

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Speaker 4: I was like, the next day we went to the

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beach and well, we had a.

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Speaker 5: One night stand in the back of his friend's car,

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and I never had a one night stand before. I

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was like, this guy lives in the bay. He seems

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very nice, like, let me just try this, let's see

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how it goes.

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Speaker 3: And it was fantastic.

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Speaker 4: You know.

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Speaker 3: After he got off, he like was like, do you

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want me to like, you know, can I do you

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want me to go down on you?

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Speaker 5: And I was like, I've just been raving for like

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seven hours in the desert and I don't want anyone

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to like venture down there. I don't know what's going on,

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so like we'll table that. But I super appreciate the offer.

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That's like very heartwarming, thank you. But then we spent

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the next day at the beach. He's like, I'll call

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you when I get home, and then he did, and

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then came back down the next day.

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Speaker 3: Five days later. We started dating long distance.

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Speaker 2: Wow.

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Speaker 1: And then you guys dated long distance for like a year.

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Speaker 3: A yeah, yeah.

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Speaker 4: And then she came and moved in yep.

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Speaker 5: And then I transferred to school up in the Bay

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and finished out college up there.

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Speaker 1: Wow. It was serious.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, Yeah, it went extremely quick.

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Speaker 3: Yeah. I always say that I can remember this distinct.

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Speaker 5: We would be on FaceTime all the time, and I

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remember this phone call where we were talking really late

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and we both just said when we were dating people,

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it always just felt like there was this piece of

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a puzzle that was always missing, and we were just like,

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maybe this is just like how it's supposed to be

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and then you know, that puzzle eventually comes together. But

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when we were together, it never felt that way. It

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just like every piece of the puzzle like just fit. Yeah,

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it was perfect. You know, obviously relationships all have their

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bumps and stuff, but like that was never pretty perfect.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, it's a pretty cute story. And I'm usually not

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the romantic kind of Yeah, I'm like, yeah, that it's

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a good story. Like we got we got real lucky.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, that was a good story. I know exactly what

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you mean. Before I met my husband, I was really

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bad at like I was kind of commitment phobic. I

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had I've been married before for four years, which was

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like miserable the whole time. But before that, like I

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couldn't do more than like a year, you know, I

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get bored. And I remember my mom telling me, She's like,

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when you meet the right person and you'll just know,

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And I'm like, what the fuck does that mean?

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Speaker 5: Yeah?

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Speaker 1: Literally, and you always like try to force it right yea,

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like okay, well this guy's this, this and this, and

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then yeah, I just always thought it was me. Yeah,

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you know, and I was like, well, maybe I'm just

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like not that kind of person who like falls in love.

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Maybe like that's just not for me. And yeah, and

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then I met my husband and I was like, oh,

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oh oh this makes sense. And yeah, we've been together

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for ten yearsh shit, our anniversary is coming up. We've

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been together for ten years and I've never ever for

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a second questioned if I was with the right person.

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Speaker 4: Not once.

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Speaker 1: That's amazing and that happened to me all the time.

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So I'm sure you guys probably feel the same way. Yep, yeah,

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very similar. Cool it makes things easier, yeah, yeah, love

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can come for you too, guys. Yes, Okay, So how

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did you guys make this relationship work long term? Because

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you were you've been together for twelve years, so like

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for those people who are maybe struggling with relationships, what

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is like the solid glue that really keeps you guys together.

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Speaker 3: It's a great question.

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Speaker 5: So it's ironic because when we first started dating, we

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were super monogamous right as like most people are, but

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we just seemed to keep attracting swingers everywhere that we went,

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and not like we ever swing ever, ever, thought about

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any of that.

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Speaker 3: We really didn't know what swinging was.

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Speaker 5: But like every time we'd go out, like there would

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be this couple, and the couple would be all like, oh,

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you know, raves are like on a cruise, and we're

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just like, what are we putting some vibe out there?

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Because like we're not trying to sleep with anybody, but

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like we you know, it just kept happening. And then

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we met this couple and they work together for so

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long and they just had the most beautiful marriage. And

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I was just like, you can tell they were just

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disgustingly in love with each other. And I was like,

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remember one night having a conversation with them, saying, your

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relationship is so beautiful, get you sleep with other people?

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Speaker 3: How does that work?

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Speaker 5: Right? And not that at the time we were interested

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in swinging or getting into that. I was like, I

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want the foundational, Like what is the building blocks that

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make this work? And they told us that every day's

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a choice and every day you have to choose your

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partner no matter what.

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Speaker 3: People change.

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Speaker 5: People you know, grow distance, they change interests, right, all

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these different things can happen life. You know, when you

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were twenty when we when I met him versus I'm

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thirty two. Now I'm a completely different person, and like

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when I'm fifty, I'm going to be a completely different

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person again. Right, Like, people evolve all the time, but

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every day you have to choose your partner no matter what.

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And if you stop choosing your partner, that's okay, Like

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things happen, but that's usually I think the thing that like,

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you have.

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Speaker 4: To be worried and you're not stuck.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, you're not stuck.

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Speaker 4: Otherwise you start resenting the person. You don't own the person.

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So I think it's just a good having the correct

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frame of mind and then solid communication because most people

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don't communicate well enough. They don't talk about things that

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are uncomfortable to talk about. So if you do all

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those uncomfortable things and you have the right frame of mind,

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it works out, or it can work out, or you're

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like this isn't for us, and then you leave something

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that would otherwise drag on your life.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, Like obviously there's non negotiables for certain things, right

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Like if one person doesn't want kids and the other

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person want kids, that's like there's no making that work

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in my opinion. But you know, for things like lifestyle

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swinging that kind of stuff. Like for me, I'm I

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could be a monogamous girl and be totally chill. This

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wants to be in an orgy every single day, and

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so you know, we have to like make that work.

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And it was one of those things that like it

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was a trying time in our marriage to figure out

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how it works. But at the end of the day,

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I had to choose him in this marriage to make

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it work. And so we just have to like both

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consent into that new chapter of our life.

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Speaker 3: And like, there are.

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Speaker 5: Things that he's going to have to give up. Can't

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be in an orgy every single day, right, And then

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there's other things that I have to give up, which

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is like, you know.

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Speaker 3: I have to.

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Speaker 5: Change my mindset around how we engage with other people

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and how that becomes a safe and fun place for

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me to also explore.

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Speaker 1: So how did you guys even start that conversation about

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opening up your relationship Because I know that there's a

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lot of people who are probably watching who would also

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like to explore that dynamic, but they're like terrified to

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bring it up to their part.

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Speaker 4: It was a very slow, gradual process, Like early on

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our relationship, she had little clues that she might be bisexual,

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and then when we started only fans, it was just

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her solo and then eventually she teased into like some

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girl girl. But it was very gradual because if you

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asked us like years and years ago, it was like

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this was not on the table at all.

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Speaker 3: No, and I never expected to be here.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, and I feel like a lot of people would

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make the mistake in a relationship. They'll go too hard

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too fast, and people get hurt. Yeah, there's no real

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book on this stuff, and the boundaries very drastically and

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it's very personal.

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Speaker 3: And they can constantly change.

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Speaker 4: They can constantly change. So usually going too hard too

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fast is where people get into trouble.

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Speaker 5: And that's kind of that same couple I called Hurt

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my like lifestyle Yoda, where like anytime I had a

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question about things, I would be like, you know, how

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how do I like talk about this or how do

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I approach this? And you know, one of the things

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that she told me, she's like, you're gonna get hurt.

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Your feelings are going to get hurt. His feelings are

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going to get hurt. You guys are going to hurt

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each other unintentionally, and you just have to like be

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okay with that, because it's not like you're purposely doing

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anything you know, out of like you know, bad intent

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but you know one thing you were like, well, let's

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experiment with this, and then it's like, oh, that's a

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boundary and I didn't know, and like now you have

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to like kind of deal with that.

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Speaker 4: Let's say about half the time, you don't know what

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the boundary is.

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Speaker 5: Until you do it, and then you're like, yep, didn't

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like that, you know, And then just know that the

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other person doesn't have, you know, bad intentions by any means,

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and that you guys are on the same team and

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as long as you guys can talk through it. It's

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a super difficult conversation to have, and I would suggest

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like maybe just try to find like a really cool

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we'll first have the conversation with your partner if they're

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even like open to the discussion. One thing that I

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would recommend would be trying to find maybe like a

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kink held event.

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Speaker 3: I know that there's a lot of.

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Speaker 5: Organizations that have like lifestyle parties that you can pay

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as like a membership and go through an interview process

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as a couple and then go and you can just watch.

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Speaker 3: Just go in the controlled environment and around.

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Speaker 4: It people because usually like minded, open minded, friendly, non pressuring.

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Speaker 5: So yeah, so just be in the environment, but like,

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don't play with anybody and just you guys, don't even

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have to have sex yourself.

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Speaker 3: Just be in the environment and see how you feel.

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Speaker 1: Is that how you guys started.

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Speaker 5: Nope, no, no, that's that's something.

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Speaker 4: You know, learning everything we've learned along the way, if

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we had to go back and start fresh again, like

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our our transition was through work related things, but now

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we go to those events too.

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Speaker 3: Yeah.

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Speaker 1: So you guys both come from a background in tech,

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and how did you go from your day jobs to

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like we should cross over into this new space because Cookie, Daddy,

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it was your suggestion that Cookie start and of back

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in twenty twenty one. Is that right?

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Speaker 4: Well, she had a friend at the time who was

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doing really well with it, and for years she was like, come,

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come join, come join, And what were you saying, You're

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like no.

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00:20:55,759 --> 00:20:59,240
Speaker 5: I was like, I'm a college educated woman, Like as

476
00:20:59,279 --> 00:21:01,799
if that like put on some pedestal, like I need

477
00:21:01,839 --> 00:21:04,160
to do sex work, Like oh my god, I could

478
00:21:04,240 --> 00:21:05,640
never Like that's why I went to school. So I

479
00:21:05,680 --> 00:21:07,839
didn't have to do this or whatever, you know, the

480
00:21:07,880 --> 00:21:09,440
bullshit that like society kind of just.

481
00:21:09,400 --> 00:21:11,599
Speaker 1: The idea that like it's a last resort for people.

482
00:21:11,880 --> 00:21:17,279
Speaker 5: Yes, yes, exactly exactly and so and also my own

483
00:21:17,319 --> 00:21:19,119
personal side of it was that like I had never

484
00:21:19,119 --> 00:21:20,839
sent a new to anybody in my life, and I

485
00:21:20,880 --> 00:21:23,559
was like, you want me to do what? Like, girl,

486
00:21:23,599 --> 00:21:27,440
you're crazy, like literally insane. So I started out with

487
00:21:27,519 --> 00:21:29,519
just doing some like assistant stuff for her, just like

488
00:21:29,559 --> 00:21:34,519
helping with with little things. And then eventually, yeah, we

489
00:21:34,599 --> 00:21:38,440
just started and I did tech consulting back then, so

490
00:21:38,680 --> 00:21:41,480
I would build like workflows for you know, Fortune five

491
00:21:41,519 --> 00:21:43,880
hundred companies that would you know, start really small and

492
00:21:43,880 --> 00:21:45,960
then scale them up to you know, thousands of people.

493
00:21:45,960 --> 00:21:49,519
So I had to have the like technical knowledge and

494
00:21:50,160 --> 00:21:53,039
process building mindset of like how do we build this

495
00:21:53,160 --> 00:21:55,799
small team that has a scalable and can like grow

496
00:21:55,880 --> 00:21:58,960
and you know, once you have like one video being

497
00:21:59,039 --> 00:22:01,720
uploaded and tagged and this and this, how do we

498
00:22:01,759 --> 00:22:04,759
scale it out to like all these different platforms and rotating.

499
00:22:04,799 --> 00:22:07,480
Speaker 3: Right, So it kind of applied really easily.

500
00:22:07,039 --> 00:22:09,920
Speaker 5: Into kind of what we do now with building a

501
00:22:09,960 --> 00:22:13,000
schedule and and you know, templates and this and this

502
00:22:13,079 --> 00:22:14,960
and this, and so it kind of worked in really

503
00:22:15,039 --> 00:22:19,039
easily at first in the beginning anyways, and kind of

504
00:22:19,039 --> 00:22:22,440
just grew from there. And then after about three months

505
00:22:22,480 --> 00:22:26,200
of doing OnlyFans, I was making more than what I

506
00:22:26,240 --> 00:22:28,759
was making at my job, and I was like, I

507
00:22:28,799 --> 00:22:31,839
think that we need to just put everything into this

508
00:22:32,039 --> 00:22:34,799
to really like catch the wave and ride it as

509
00:22:34,839 --> 00:22:36,920
long as we can, because it's not going to last forever.

510
00:22:38,839 --> 00:22:41,200
And so we just jumped in, and you know, he

511
00:22:41,319 --> 00:22:43,279
came home with a camera one day, like a like

512
00:22:43,319 --> 00:22:45,240
a professional sony camera, and I was like, the fuck

513
00:22:45,279 --> 00:22:45,680
is that for.

514
00:22:46,519 --> 00:22:48,160
Speaker 3: He's like, I'm going to learn how to use it

515
00:22:48,160 --> 00:22:49,160
and we're going to shoot on it.

516
00:22:49,160 --> 00:22:52,039
Speaker 5: It's going to make like some bomb ass, like really nice,

517
00:22:52,079 --> 00:22:52,839
beautiful content.

518
00:22:53,039 --> 00:22:57,519
Speaker 4: It took a year before before it beat out the phone. Yeah,

519
00:22:57,640 --> 00:22:59,759
like batteries not included. Do you get those cameras? You're like,

520
00:22:59,799 --> 00:23:02,200
why my photo is so bad?

521
00:23:02,440 --> 00:23:03,200
Speaker 1: Yeah?

522
00:23:03,279 --> 00:23:05,119
Speaker 4: And then and then you as you learn, you're like, okay,

523
00:23:05,359 --> 00:23:09,880
just there's a high skill cap with this, as you know, yes, yes, yeah.

524
00:23:09,960 --> 00:23:13,359
Speaker 5: And then his own technical background, he's like very tech

525
00:23:13,400 --> 00:23:16,559
savvy and so he you know, helps with buildings, you know,

526
00:23:16,640 --> 00:23:20,279
some integrations, and we're actually building like a bot that

527
00:23:20,519 --> 00:23:23,599
helps like be like more like an assistant for us

528
00:23:23,640 --> 00:23:26,400
when you know, if you want to explain more.

529
00:23:26,599 --> 00:23:29,160
Speaker 3: Yeah, operations, yeah, operations yeah. Yeah.

530
00:23:29,200 --> 00:23:31,480
Speaker 1: So I love that kind of shit. We're we're doing

531
00:23:31,480 --> 00:23:34,079
a lot of that right now too. One of my

532
00:23:34,400 --> 00:23:37,200
business partners is like really tech savvy and he's building

533
00:23:37,240 --> 00:23:38,559
like this whole AI workflow.

534
00:23:38,720 --> 00:23:40,519
Speaker 4: It's pretty great, and we like, I see a lot

535
00:23:40,519 --> 00:23:42,960
of people using AI and there's like a wrong application

536
00:23:43,079 --> 00:23:45,680
and a right application. So like in our industry, the

537
00:23:45,720 --> 00:23:48,960
wrong application is a lot of agencies are using bots

538
00:23:49,000 --> 00:23:49,440
to chat.

539
00:23:49,759 --> 00:23:49,960
Speaker 1: Yeah.

540
00:23:50,359 --> 00:23:52,160
Speaker 4: No, no one wants to chat chat with the bot.

541
00:23:52,359 --> 00:23:57,640
No one wants AI girlfriend content. Uh, it's faked. People

542
00:23:57,880 --> 00:24:00,400
can see it. It's not genuine. So that's wrong way

543
00:24:00,400 --> 00:24:02,599
to use AI. The right way to use AI is

544
00:24:02,640 --> 00:24:05,240
like the back end, tedious work that most people aren't

545
00:24:05,240 --> 00:24:07,720
aware of. Right. They just think we should content upload

546
00:24:07,720 --> 00:24:11,319
and we're done. But there's there's calendar work, there's project

547
00:24:11,400 --> 00:24:16,400
management work, there's communications work, two two five seven work,

548
00:24:16,880 --> 00:24:19,880
uploading to you know, a dozen different websites, as you know,

549
00:24:20,519 --> 00:24:22,960
and some a human has to do that, and no

550
00:24:23,039 --> 00:24:26,799
one enjoys doing that. So that's the perfect use for like, hey, robot,

551
00:24:26,880 --> 00:24:29,480
like upload the video to all the site, make a

552
00:24:29,519 --> 00:24:33,119
teaser clip, make sure we're two two five seven compliant.

553
00:24:33,119 --> 00:24:36,119
Speaker 3: Send these documents here, and do all of these other things.

554
00:24:36,200 --> 00:24:37,359
Speaker 1: Which program do you guys use?

555
00:24:37,559 --> 00:24:39,559
Speaker 4: Well, you know, the interesting thing is you can kind

556
00:24:39,559 --> 00:24:43,000
of plug into any model, but everything's very personal to

557
00:24:43,000 --> 00:24:45,279
how you run your business. So you just talk to

558
00:24:45,319 --> 00:24:47,880
the robot and you say I'm trying to solve this problem,

559
00:24:47,880 --> 00:24:50,079
help me do it, and it rights itself.

560
00:24:50,440 --> 00:24:50,559
Speaker 5: Right.

561
00:24:50,599 --> 00:24:53,319
Speaker 4: You don't need to be a programmer. You just you say,

562
00:24:53,359 --> 00:24:54,960
I'm trying to solve this problem. Help me solve it.

563
00:24:55,480 --> 00:24:57,920
So you don't need to go and buy a software solution.

564
00:24:58,039 --> 00:25:01,759
Like it is its own software solution. It's pretty neat.

565
00:25:01,839 --> 00:25:05,839
Speaker 1: Yeah, so yeah, tell me about this because you're you're

566
00:25:05,839 --> 00:25:09,720
building this AI to like run your back end business. Like,

567
00:25:09,720 --> 00:25:12,799
what are some of the biggest tasks that it takes on.

568
00:25:13,279 --> 00:25:16,319
Speaker 4: Well, what's interesting is the way it works now is

569
00:25:16,359 --> 00:25:20,039
that it holds all the business contexts, so it knows

570
00:25:20,599 --> 00:25:22,839
all of the posts we make, It knows all the

571
00:25:22,839 --> 00:25:27,200
people we work with, It knows our calendar, reads our email,

572
00:25:27,440 --> 00:25:30,759
our brand, so it catches things you don't. It's like, oh, hey,

573
00:25:31,119 --> 00:25:33,400
you guys are going to schedule to shoot for Friday.

574
00:25:33,480 --> 00:25:35,559
But Friday, there's a big event that's going to make

575
00:25:35,599 --> 00:25:39,160
a lot of a noise. Maybe schedule it another day, right,

576
00:25:39,200 --> 00:25:43,160
Little things like that two Q five seven compliance, like oh,

577
00:25:43,200 --> 00:25:46,039
this person didn't upload this, or they have a typo

578
00:25:46,079 --> 00:25:46,559
in their name.

579
00:25:46,759 --> 00:25:49,440
Speaker 5: Even just prepping for this, And when I was trying

580
00:25:49,480 --> 00:25:51,519
to think of like our bio and like, you know,

581
00:25:51,559 --> 00:25:53,680
things that we should talk about, I was like, so

582
00:25:53,720 --> 00:25:56,359
we're going on this podcast, and what do you think

583
00:25:56,400 --> 00:25:58,319
would be easy to share and talk about and what

584
00:25:58,319 --> 00:26:01,119
do you think would be interesting? And it like went

585
00:26:01,200 --> 00:26:03,559
through and like went through all of your stuff and

586
00:26:03,640 --> 00:26:05,319
was like, I think that these would hit really good

587
00:26:05,359 --> 00:26:08,039
for Holly and thinks she would enjoy talking about.

588
00:26:07,799 --> 00:26:09,680
Speaker 3: And stuff like that. So it's just like it's literally

589
00:26:09,720 --> 00:26:10,079
just like a.

590
00:26:10,000 --> 00:26:13,200
Speaker 5: Personal assistant that I can just talk to whenever and

591
00:26:13,279 --> 00:26:15,880
just like riff back and forth. And you know, we're

592
00:26:15,920 --> 00:26:18,599
coming up with like a Twitter bio for our studio

593
00:26:18,720 --> 00:26:20,960
and can only fans bio and like all these different

594
00:26:21,000 --> 00:26:23,079
bios and captions and what we can say where and

595
00:26:23,599 --> 00:26:26,440
it like keeps our brand in mind and our voice

596
00:26:26,480 --> 00:26:27,839
in mind, and then it's like does it want to

597
00:26:27,839 --> 00:26:30,160
be in Cookie Daddy's voice or Cookies voice and so

598
00:26:30,200 --> 00:26:33,039
on and so forth. So it gets to know us

599
00:26:33,079 --> 00:26:35,119
really really well because we literally just talked to it

600
00:26:35,160 --> 00:26:35,640
all the time.

601
00:26:35,920 --> 00:26:38,480
Speaker 4: Yeah, and most people kind of already get that experience today.

602
00:26:38,559 --> 00:26:41,079
But the real value add is it it not just

603
00:26:41,119 --> 00:26:44,920
writing text but doing work for you, like uploading content,

604
00:26:45,759 --> 00:26:46,720
creating teasers.

605
00:26:47,200 --> 00:26:49,079
Speaker 5: If you give it like a picture, and then he

606
00:26:49,200 --> 00:26:54,839
trains it to be like a graphics you know artist professional.

607
00:26:54,440 --> 00:26:57,400
Speaker 4: Yeah, role player, Like you're a professional graphic artist and

608
00:26:57,440 --> 00:27:00,359
your job is every time you generate a teaser or

609
00:27:00,359 --> 00:27:03,759
some image for the business, make sure it's aesthetic and

610
00:27:03,960 --> 00:27:06,559
follows our brand guidelines. You know, you have colors for

611
00:27:06,640 --> 00:27:07,000
your brand.

612
00:27:07,039 --> 00:27:08,880
Speaker 3: That's sort of where it fits in, like a picture.

613
00:27:08,920 --> 00:27:10,440
Speaker 5: So it's like, if we're going to post a picture

614
00:27:10,440 --> 00:27:12,559
of us to another girl and we need her name

615
00:27:12,599 --> 00:27:15,200
and then our brand and details around it, it'll take

616
00:27:15,240 --> 00:27:17,640
any picture and then throw it on there, and then.

617
00:27:17,559 --> 00:27:21,359
Speaker 4: We'll make a make a a flyer for Cookie and

618
00:27:21,400 --> 00:27:25,000
Cookie's friend. It knows to go search our files.

619
00:27:24,599 --> 00:27:28,039
Speaker 3: For examples of a flyer Cookie's friend for us.

620
00:27:28,000 --> 00:27:29,640
Speaker 5: To do a stream or something like that, and it'll

621
00:27:29,680 --> 00:27:31,640
take the picture and a picture and put it together

622
00:27:31,680 --> 00:27:34,000
and do all that stuff, and we can just iterate

623
00:27:34,039 --> 00:27:37,480
on it constantly, but it just it lives as like

624
00:27:37,519 --> 00:27:39,359
a text message group chat that we have. We call

625
00:27:39,359 --> 00:27:42,400
it crumbot. She's pretty sexy. We can show you a

626
00:27:42,400 --> 00:27:43,160
picture we.

627
00:27:43,240 --> 00:27:50,920
Speaker 3: Made like this, like risk and AI picture of her. Yeah,

628
00:27:50,960 --> 00:27:52,920
I we'll show you her afterwards. It's pretty hot.

629
00:27:53,559 --> 00:27:56,000
Speaker 1: I love that, Okay. So I kind of want to

630
00:27:56,039 --> 00:27:59,519
get back into your relationship and how that plays out

631
00:27:59,559 --> 00:28:02,799
in a sexual way. So Cookie, you identify as a

632
00:28:02,799 --> 00:28:06,160
demisexual For those people who don't know what that term is,

633
00:28:06,279 --> 00:28:08,839
what does it mean for you and how does that

634
00:28:09,000 --> 00:28:11,000
like define what your interests are.

635
00:28:11,079 --> 00:28:15,279
Speaker 5: So demisexual is somebody who it's more than just like

636
00:28:16,200 --> 00:28:20,559
boy girl the bits. If you're objectively hot, you know,

637
00:28:21,160 --> 00:28:23,519
you could be the most objectively hot person in the world,

638
00:28:23,559 --> 00:28:25,279
and like, I would never want to fuck you in

639
00:28:25,319 --> 00:28:27,640
a million years because I don't have any type of

640
00:28:27,680 --> 00:28:32,960
like intimate connection with that person. I really it's more

641
00:28:33,000 --> 00:28:35,799
than just a body Like it's almost like I need

642
00:28:35,839 --> 00:28:38,759
to talk to you and have this really intimate connection

643
00:28:39,240 --> 00:28:42,000
with who you are, the way you think and you

644
00:28:42,000 --> 00:28:44,480
know all of those other things. So it's just a

645
00:28:44,920 --> 00:28:50,799
more involvement of who the person is inside that allows

646
00:28:50,839 --> 00:28:54,359
me to become sexually attracted to you. So that kind

647
00:28:54,359 --> 00:28:59,200
of plays out in how we shoot, because in the past,

648
00:28:59,359 --> 00:29:00,920
we had you.

649
00:29:00,880 --> 00:29:03,839
Speaker 3: Know, people just hey, you want to shoot, let's do

650
00:29:03,880 --> 00:29:04,279
a threesome.

651
00:29:04,359 --> 00:29:06,440
Speaker 5: We'd fly them out and then we would shoot, and

652
00:29:06,480 --> 00:29:09,119
I would be like, wow, that was the most like

653
00:29:09,240 --> 00:29:11,279
detached experience.

654
00:29:11,559 --> 00:29:13,519
Speaker 3: I hated that. I don't want to do that.

655
00:29:13,559 --> 00:29:15,960
Speaker 5: So it was like a learning experience of like what

656
00:29:16,279 --> 00:29:18,799
I needed to look inside and what I needed to

657
00:29:18,880 --> 00:29:24,240
feel fulfillment in that. So when we do collapse now

658
00:29:24,359 --> 00:29:26,759
we have intro calls with people. Most of the time

659
00:29:26,759 --> 00:29:28,720
we have to I like to meet people in person

660
00:29:28,759 --> 00:29:31,279
if we're like at a you know, AVIN or expos

661
00:29:31,319 --> 00:29:33,519
or wherever, and have a chat with them in person

662
00:29:33,599 --> 00:29:35,680
and just really like talk to them as a human

663
00:29:35,720 --> 00:29:37,880
and not like so you're gonna come out and we're

664
00:29:37,880 --> 00:29:41,079
going to have this three blah, you know. So we

665
00:29:41,279 --> 00:29:43,519
like to have those kind of conversations. But that plays

666
00:29:43,519 --> 00:29:45,839
out with uh yeah, with like how we shoot and

667
00:29:45,839 --> 00:29:46,599
that kind of stuff.

668
00:29:46,680 --> 00:29:49,119
Speaker 1: You also describe yourself as a vixen. You're turned on

669
00:29:49,240 --> 00:29:52,000
by cookie Daddy being with other people. But you were

670
00:29:52,000 --> 00:29:54,200
clear that that's not the same as a cut dynamic.

671
00:29:54,279 --> 00:29:55,640
So can you walk me through the difference.

672
00:29:56,000 --> 00:30:02,119
Speaker 5: Yes, So when we got into to shooting, we had

673
00:30:02,200 --> 00:30:04,519
a friend who was a hot wife.

674
00:30:04,720 --> 00:30:05,960
Speaker 3: We didn't know what a hot wife was.

675
00:30:06,440 --> 00:30:09,440
Speaker 5: And you know, for people, that's more traditionally known as

676
00:30:09,519 --> 00:30:12,599
like the wife gets kind of like put out with

677
00:30:12,720 --> 00:30:14,759
whomever and the guys like get to you know, play

678
00:30:14,799 --> 00:30:18,880
with them, and traditionally the husband is seen as a cuck.

679
00:30:19,400 --> 00:30:23,279
But when we were doing our research, a cook is

680
00:30:23,279 --> 00:30:26,319
somebody who is like actually degraded, like you could never

681
00:30:26,480 --> 00:30:28,680
fuck your wife as good as I can that kind

682
00:30:28,720 --> 00:30:32,559
of thing, right, Like there's a degradation aspect to it typically,

683
00:30:32,720 --> 00:30:35,319
and so they're like, you can't touch, you can't do this,

684
00:30:35,480 --> 00:30:37,400
you have to sit in the cuck chair and watch

685
00:30:37,440 --> 00:30:40,000
me fuck your wife. So the inverse of that for

686
00:30:40,079 --> 00:30:42,799
a male is called a stag. So someone's like, yeah,

687
00:30:42,839 --> 00:30:45,519
you get to fuck my wife. My wife's pussy is

688
00:30:45,559 --> 00:30:47,720
so good, you're so lucky you get to fuck her.

689
00:30:48,000 --> 00:30:51,000
So the flip of that is a vixen in a female.

690
00:30:51,240 --> 00:30:53,440
So it's kind of like a power bottom dynamic. Where

691
00:30:53,480 --> 00:30:56,799
it's like I'm like, yeah, ride that dick, baby, that

692
00:30:56,880 --> 00:30:57,759
dick's feel so good.

693
00:30:57,759 --> 00:30:59,039
Speaker 3: Oh does that feel good too for you?

694
00:30:59,119 --> 00:30:59,440
Speaker 1: Baby?

695
00:30:59,480 --> 00:31:01,839
Speaker 3: That feels so good? Yeah, get the fuck off.

696
00:31:02,000 --> 00:31:05,400
Speaker 5: Like it's like I I hold all the power, and

697
00:31:05,559 --> 00:31:09,279
if you think that, like for a second, it's any way,

698
00:31:09,559 --> 00:31:12,440
shape or form other than I'm allowing this to happen

699
00:31:12,640 --> 00:31:15,680
for you, I will drag you out by your hair

700
00:31:15,759 --> 00:31:18,200
and it will be fucking gone, right, Like, so that's

701
00:31:19,079 --> 00:31:24,200
it could be hot? Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, so it's

702
00:31:24,279 --> 00:31:27,160
it's it's you know, I've kind of talked about this

703
00:31:27,200 --> 00:31:29,000
in the past with other people and they're like, oh,

704
00:31:29,039 --> 00:31:29,559
so that's a cook.

705
00:31:29,559 --> 00:31:31,599
Speaker 3: I'm like, it's not a cook. I am not a

706
00:31:31,680 --> 00:31:32,200
cuck queen.

707
00:31:32,279 --> 00:31:35,519
Speaker 5: I'm not like, oh, I'll wait here baby until you're

708
00:31:35,559 --> 00:31:36,640
ready to give me your dick.

709
00:31:36,759 --> 00:31:38,920
Speaker 3: I'm like, no, it's my turn. Get the fuck off

710
00:31:38,920 --> 00:31:41,599
my husband, now it's time. Okay, I want you to

711
00:31:41,640 --> 00:31:41,920
do this.

712
00:31:41,960 --> 00:31:45,359
Speaker 5: It's kind of like I'm directing, like what's happening, and

713
00:31:45,400 --> 00:31:49,440
that like helps me, you know, be very sexually into it,

714
00:31:49,599 --> 00:31:51,920
and you know, I get to talk.

715
00:31:51,759 --> 00:31:54,440
Speaker 3: Dirty to him. I'm like, how's her pussy feel, baby? Yeah,

716
00:31:54,440 --> 00:31:54,880
that's good?

717
00:31:54,960 --> 00:31:55,160
Speaker 5: Hot.

718
00:31:55,279 --> 00:31:57,720
Speaker 3: Yeah you like that. That feels so good, you know,

719
00:31:57,880 --> 00:31:59,680
and like that makes me hot, like get all like

720
00:31:59,720 --> 00:32:01,000
hot hard And then he's.

721
00:32:00,839 --> 00:32:04,960
Speaker 4: Like, yeah, a lot of synergy going on. Yeah, yeah

722
00:32:05,000 --> 00:32:05,920
it works well for us.

723
00:32:06,000 --> 00:32:06,759
Speaker 3: Yeah it works.

724
00:32:06,920 --> 00:32:10,640
Speaker 1: I remember talking to somebody once who you know, has

725
00:32:10,680 --> 00:32:13,480
the same kind of dynamic as you guys, and he said,

726
00:32:13,519 --> 00:32:15,359
it's kind of like if you get a really like

727
00:32:15,519 --> 00:32:18,519
awesome car and you like want your friends to like

728
00:32:18,640 --> 00:32:20,319
get to drive it, you know, because you want to

729
00:32:20,319 --> 00:32:22,119
show it off. Yeah, you know, like do you want

730
00:32:22,119 --> 00:32:24,599
to drive like this amazing new car that I got. Yeah,

731
00:32:24,680 --> 00:32:26,319
Like I'll let you have a right around the block.

732
00:32:26,400 --> 00:32:27,119
Speaker 3: Yeah, exactly.

733
00:32:27,480 --> 00:32:29,160
Speaker 4: And I've always been that way with her, like how

734
00:32:29,359 --> 00:32:32,880
like from day one, how she dresses right like I'm like,

735
00:32:32,920 --> 00:32:36,559
go full provocative nipple Passy's like that never made me

736
00:32:37,119 --> 00:32:40,559
insecure and uncomfortable in my guess he's looks super hot,

737
00:32:40,599 --> 00:32:41,640
like like I hot my wife.

738
00:32:41,799 --> 00:32:44,759
Speaker 5: If anything, He's like, could you put something on a

739
00:32:44,799 --> 00:32:47,400
little slutier kind of kind of comfort up?

740
00:32:48,119 --> 00:32:50,200
Speaker 3: I really like to see the butt, you know.

741
00:32:51,000 --> 00:32:52,839
Speaker 1: So I mean I think a lot of what that

742
00:32:53,079 --> 00:32:57,359
entails is like, you know, lack of insecurity. I think

743
00:32:57,440 --> 00:33:00,079
a lot of you know, a lot of problems I

744
00:33:00,119 --> 00:33:02,680
think with monogamous relationships. And this is actually speaking for

745
00:33:02,759 --> 00:33:05,680
someone who's in a monogamous relationship and that's what works

746
00:33:05,680 --> 00:33:07,440
for us. But I think there's a lot of assumption

747
00:33:07,519 --> 00:33:10,640
of like ownership and a lot of insecurity about losing

748
00:33:10,680 --> 00:33:11,839
that partner to somebody else.

749
00:33:11,920 --> 00:33:14,920
Speaker 4: Yeah, Perc, I feel like it's foundational to do this

750
00:33:15,079 --> 00:33:19,039
correctly because if you don't have that security, you're kind

751
00:33:19,039 --> 00:33:22,759
of just making things rockier. Yeah, because we've seen people

752
00:33:22,759 --> 00:33:26,559
in lifestyle where they don't have a solid relationship that

753
00:33:26,839 --> 00:33:28,839
they're building on. They kind of use us to band

754
00:33:28,839 --> 00:33:31,920
aid something that's already kind of struggling, and those usually

755
00:33:31,960 --> 00:33:34,400
crash and burn pretty bad from what we've seen.

756
00:33:34,559 --> 00:33:36,960
Speaker 5: Yeah, it's and you can you can definitely tell when

757
00:33:36,960 --> 00:33:39,440
people are like they just are in a very open

758
00:33:39,480 --> 00:33:42,119
relationship and they just can lot eat off without each other.

759
00:33:42,400 --> 00:33:45,440
And then you can see the other people where you're like, ooh,

760
00:33:45,480 --> 00:33:47,240
you guys are doing this because you guys are too

761
00:33:47,240 --> 00:33:50,119
insecure to be alone and to break up, so you're

762
00:33:50,160 --> 00:33:52,440
just like, I'll just let you fuck whoever, and like

763
00:33:52,559 --> 00:33:55,119
you can see they're very detached in their relationship. Yeah,

764
00:33:55,119 --> 00:33:57,680
And that's like not something that even with people that

765
00:33:57,720 --> 00:34:00,839
we've interviewed for shooting, you know, we get off a call.

766
00:34:01,279 --> 00:34:04,440
Thankfully it's never really happened, but we've talked to people

767
00:34:04,480 --> 00:34:07,440
in person where you know, we do the first initial

768
00:34:07,519 --> 00:34:09,880
like should we engage and maybe ask them to clap,

769
00:34:09,920 --> 00:34:11,480
and you kind of like get the little feels where

770
00:34:11,519 --> 00:34:14,519
you're like, hmm, that sounds that seems like a rocky relationship.

771
00:34:15,480 --> 00:34:17,280
Not quite sure if that's something that we would want

772
00:34:17,280 --> 00:34:20,639
to like approach and write and bring into into our marriage.

773
00:34:20,800 --> 00:34:23,239
Speaker 1: Now, Cookie Daddy, you're the more sexual of the two,

774
00:34:23,400 --> 00:34:26,400
So how do you guys balance different appetites inside of

775
00:34:26,440 --> 00:34:27,480
marriage and a business.

776
00:34:27,559 --> 00:34:29,719
Speaker 4: Well, it used to be struggle for a while, and

777
00:34:29,800 --> 00:34:33,360
I feel like a lot of I'm assuming heterosexual relationships

778
00:34:33,360 --> 00:34:36,920
are like this. You know, it's yeah, it's normal to

779
00:34:36,960 --> 00:34:41,000
have some kind of difference. I don't know what helped us.

780
00:34:41,960 --> 00:34:44,079
We just just a lot of communication and you just

781
00:34:44,079 --> 00:34:46,679
do your best to meet in the middle. Because I

782
00:34:46,719 --> 00:34:51,400
feel like when there's a mismatch in sex drive, usually

783
00:34:51,440 --> 00:34:55,119
one person feels unwanted and unloved and then the other

784
00:34:55,199 --> 00:34:57,880
person feels how do you describe it?

785
00:34:57,960 --> 00:35:00,599
Speaker 5: Like for me, it was like, Oh, he doesn't like

786
00:35:00,760 --> 00:35:02,960
I'm not enough, like I'm not doing enough for him,

787
00:35:03,880 --> 00:35:06,159
Like I'm like at my max. So I'm just gonna

788
00:35:06,239 --> 00:35:09,800
like self sacrifice and just like you know, kind of

789
00:35:09,840 --> 00:35:11,559
check out while he's like having sex with me or

790
00:35:11,599 --> 00:35:13,239
something like that, and that's not fun.

791
00:35:13,519 --> 00:35:15,960
Speaker 4: So for us, what worked was like understanding the other

792
00:35:16,000 --> 00:35:20,800
person's mindset and then it kind of like it takes

793
00:35:20,840 --> 00:35:23,039
the hurt away, right. It used to hurt me, like why,

794
00:35:23,239 --> 00:35:25,159
like what do you mean you don't want to have

795
00:35:25,239 --> 00:35:27,960
sex with me? Like like I would you could ask

796
00:35:27,960 --> 00:35:29,280
me one hundred tis a day and if that's what

797
00:35:29,320 --> 00:35:31,239
you really needed, I would do it for you. So

798
00:35:32,039 --> 00:35:36,039
me not getting that reciprocated energy felt hurtful. And that's

799
00:35:36,039 --> 00:35:38,679
apparently a pretty common like a rejection feeling. So just

800
00:35:38,760 --> 00:35:42,480
understanding the other frame of mind helps tremendously.

801
00:35:42,639 --> 00:35:45,079
Speaker 3: Yeah, And I think it's also one of those things where.

802
00:35:47,000 --> 00:35:51,880
Speaker 5: Using like we've we've been to couple's marriage counseling just

803
00:35:51,920 --> 00:35:54,239
so that we can learn how to talk and communicate effectively.

804
00:35:54,599 --> 00:35:56,280
And one of those things was like you just have

805
00:35:56,360 --> 00:35:58,840
to learn again kind of what I said in the

806
00:35:58,840 --> 00:36:01,719
beginning with like the autos connection of not that this

807
00:36:01,800 --> 00:36:03,599
is anything to do with autism, but like you have

808
00:36:03,639 --> 00:36:05,679
to learn how to talk to each other in a

809
00:36:05,719 --> 00:36:07,599
way where it's a safe space.

810
00:36:07,760 --> 00:36:07,960
Speaker 1: Right.

811
00:36:08,320 --> 00:36:10,880
Speaker 5: So it's like, this is my sexual cup, right, My

812
00:36:10,960 --> 00:36:14,079
sexual cup is only this big, and you know his

813
00:36:14,159 --> 00:36:18,400
sexual cup is this big, and how.

814
00:36:17,400 --> 00:36:20,000
Speaker 3: Quickly does my deplete versus how quickly does his deplete?

815
00:36:20,079 --> 00:36:22,400
Speaker 5: Right, And just so learning to talk about it in

816
00:36:22,440 --> 00:36:26,000
those types of senses and then giving each other boundaries

817
00:36:26,039 --> 00:36:29,119
to work around, you know, like, hey, babe, you know

818
00:36:29,639 --> 00:36:32,239
we just shot for three days in a row. Like

819
00:36:32,639 --> 00:36:34,559
the next like day or two, I would really just

820
00:36:34,639 --> 00:36:35,800
kind of like to take a break.

821
00:36:35,639 --> 00:36:37,480
Speaker 4: Or yeah, something little true. She'll give me a heads

822
00:36:37,559 --> 00:36:41,039
up rather than me getting like pent up energy, and

823
00:36:41,079 --> 00:36:44,360
then she shuts me down. She'll be like, hey, FYI,

824
00:36:44,519 --> 00:36:46,000
I need a couple of days break. Then I can

825
00:36:46,039 --> 00:36:47,639
like mentally prepare to be.

826
00:36:47,800 --> 00:36:48,639
Speaker 3: He's like canting down.

827
00:36:49,639 --> 00:36:54,079
Speaker 4: It's yeah, I get to And thankfully I'm not like

828
00:36:54,239 --> 00:36:56,960
eighteen anymore, so it's it's not as bad as it

829
00:36:57,039 --> 00:36:59,599
used to be. But yeah, I was that teenager, like

830
00:36:59,639 --> 00:37:01,880
I had my energy was sky high. So I'm actually

831
00:37:01,920 --> 00:37:04,360
kind of I'm happy it's chilled out a bit me too.

832
00:37:06,519 --> 00:37:09,360
Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm having a boy, and I'm like not already

833
00:37:09,400 --> 00:37:11,639
like not looking forward to the teenage years, like oh

834
00:37:11,679 --> 00:37:13,679
my god, yeah everything that.

835
00:37:15,239 --> 00:37:19,679
Speaker 4: Yeah, and everyone's different because I'm definitely like teenage boys

836
00:37:19,679 --> 00:37:23,400
on average are elevated, but me was elevated even beyond that.

837
00:37:23,519 --> 00:37:26,719
Speaker 1: Like beyond that. Yeah, yeah, what kind of boundaries do

838
00:37:26,800 --> 00:37:29,239
you guys actually have in place that like work for you?

839
00:37:29,599 --> 00:37:30,400
Speaker 3: For right now?

840
00:37:31,239 --> 00:37:37,559
Speaker 5: We have a no kissing rule for him with other women. Okay,

841
00:37:37,639 --> 00:37:39,639
so he can fuck other women, he can eat pussy,

842
00:37:39,760 --> 00:37:42,079
he can kiss bodies, just no mouth to mouth like

843
00:37:42,159 --> 00:37:46,000
kissing and making out. That was something that for me

844
00:37:46,239 --> 00:37:50,880
it just felt too intimate. And at that point, it's

845
00:37:50,960 --> 00:37:54,199
like I just wanted to reserve something just for like

846
00:37:54,360 --> 00:37:55,519
us that's super intimate.

847
00:37:56,679 --> 00:37:58,800
Speaker 4: But the boundaries are actually really great because it creates

848
00:37:58,840 --> 00:38:00,440
a safe space.

849
00:38:00,599 --> 00:38:02,559
Speaker 1: And I'm saving that you guys talk about this with

850
00:38:02,800 --> 00:38:04,199
their scene partners before.

851
00:38:04,280 --> 00:38:07,199
Speaker 4: Yeah, we go we go through on the before every

852
00:38:07,199 --> 00:38:11,800
shoot because everyone's so different and everyone does a right

853
00:38:11,840 --> 00:38:14,400
to feel heard and safe.

854
00:38:14,079 --> 00:38:15,480
Speaker 1: And respected respected.

855
00:38:15,599 --> 00:38:17,920
Speaker 5: Yeah, so we we we'll do all of the like

856
00:38:18,159 --> 00:38:20,119
social media and all that stuff, and then we cut

857
00:38:20,159 --> 00:38:22,559
and we said, okay, we're gonna have a consent boundary

858
00:38:22,599 --> 00:38:24,440
talk and we all sit down and we like talk

859
00:38:24,480 --> 00:38:27,719
about it in detailed yes, no ad specifics. We have

860
00:38:27,760 --> 00:38:30,519
a very like detailed checklist of like what they're okay

861
00:38:30,559 --> 00:38:34,000
with and what they're not hard knows all that stuff.

862
00:38:34,039 --> 00:38:37,159
Speaker 3: So that's worked for us. Another thing for me.

863
00:38:37,239 --> 00:38:41,079
Speaker 5: Personally that you know, we used to do lifestyle and shooting,

864
00:38:41,599 --> 00:38:44,880
and for me that just became too much. And so

865
00:38:45,039 --> 00:38:48,480
while I really love being in the lifestyle space, playing

866
00:38:48,519 --> 00:38:51,719
with strangers and then also filming with other people became

867
00:38:51,760 --> 00:38:55,039
too much for me. And so we will go to

868
00:38:55,079 --> 00:38:58,599
lifestyle events, but we won't play with other people, but

869
00:38:59,320 --> 00:39:01,880
we'll just like to explore it and hang out and

870
00:39:01,920 --> 00:39:06,079
meet people and put on a really great show. Because somehow, somewhere,

871
00:39:06,280 --> 00:39:07,679
you know, someone will always ask what I do and

872
00:39:07,719 --> 00:39:10,159
they're like, oh, my gosh, a porn stars here, and

873
00:39:10,159 --> 00:39:12,239
then like everyone wants to like watch me fuck for

874
00:39:12,239 --> 00:39:16,199
some reason, as if it's like a spectacle or they're like, oh,

875
00:39:16,239 --> 00:39:20,599
the porn stars, we must watch her. And then I'm like,

876
00:39:20,679 --> 00:39:23,480
I mean, like, guys, if you want a show on

877
00:39:23,480 --> 00:39:25,880
a show, you know, and so I'm like, I'm like

878
00:39:25,960 --> 00:39:29,760
doing all all the things you know versus.

879
00:39:29,000 --> 00:39:30,960
Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm like, I'm like fucking me upside down.

880
00:39:31,079 --> 00:39:33,800
Speaker 5: You know, if we ever catch me at a lifestyle party,

881
00:39:33,880 --> 00:39:36,559
just be like, Cookie, let's see it cameras on. Then

882
00:39:36,599 --> 00:39:38,320
I'll just like I'll just go for it. So you

883
00:39:38,400 --> 00:39:41,199
love the camera, I do. I love a good performance.

884
00:39:41,559 --> 00:39:44,320
I love putting on a really good performance. And that's

885
00:39:44,400 --> 00:39:47,559
kind of where we started to think about, you know,

886
00:39:47,599 --> 00:39:51,400
what we wanted to do long term, and that's kind

887
00:39:51,440 --> 00:39:52,639
of where we like kind of got into like the

888
00:39:52,679 --> 00:39:55,159
studio aspect, because we really wanted to like create this

889
00:39:55,360 --> 00:39:57,920
like look and feel and brand and all of that.

890
00:39:58,000 --> 00:40:00,880
And you know, we filmed last night and I was

891
00:40:01,079 --> 00:40:04,000
going for it. It was just like it was hot, So.

892
00:40:04,000 --> 00:40:05,000
Speaker 1: Tell me about the studio.

893
00:40:05,599 --> 00:40:08,400
Speaker 3: So the studio is called she Crumbled, so it's a

894
00:40:08,440 --> 00:40:11,159
playoff of our names and do you want to?

895
00:40:12,320 --> 00:40:18,320
Speaker 5: And it was just something where we kind of sat

896
00:40:18,400 --> 00:40:21,199
down and you know, as much as we love the

897
00:40:21,239 --> 00:40:25,880
fan sites they're great, they have been getting really just

898
00:40:26,480 --> 00:40:30,639
strange with I'm not even quite sure what because we

899
00:40:30,719 --> 00:40:33,400
have all the documentation, we have all the tags, but

900
00:40:33,559 --> 00:40:35,039
there was one day where I just woke up and

901
00:40:35,079 --> 00:40:37,880
fifteen of my videos got deleted out of my only fans,

902
00:40:38,679 --> 00:40:40,920
and they were like improper tagging, and I like sent

903
00:40:40,960 --> 00:40:44,840
the screenshot, sent the paperwork, here's all of the stuff, like,

904
00:40:44,880 --> 00:40:46,960
and they're like, well, not enough people are tagged. I'm like,

905
00:40:47,000 --> 00:40:50,559
there's four people in the video, myself included. I don't

906
00:40:50,639 --> 00:40:52,159
what do you want me to do? And they were

907
00:40:52,199 --> 00:40:54,440
just like, oh, sorry, we deleted it, and so then

908
00:40:54,440 --> 00:40:56,039
I would have to try and re upload it, and

909
00:40:56,119 --> 00:40:59,079
of course I can't because it's the same video and

910
00:41:00,079 --> 00:41:02,440
us I'm going to change the metadata, but like, you know,

911
00:41:02,480 --> 00:41:04,559
then I'm just playing with the OnlyFans, Gods of them

912
00:41:04,559 --> 00:41:07,119
deleting my account because they're like, keep uploading this video.

913
00:41:08,000 --> 00:41:09,760
So you know, I was like getting tired of it,

914
00:41:09,840 --> 00:41:12,679
and so we had a discussion of like where is

915
00:41:12,719 --> 00:41:14,920
a where is a place where we can just post

916
00:41:14,920 --> 00:41:18,239
the content that we have and you know, build it

917
00:41:18,280 --> 00:41:20,239
the way that we want and have control over it

918
00:41:20,280 --> 00:41:20,960
the way we want.

919
00:41:21,719 --> 00:41:24,960
Speaker 3: And that's where the studio came up. And obviously it's you.

920
00:41:24,920 --> 00:41:27,599
Speaker 5: Know, I don't want to be necessarily sixty and being

921
00:41:27,639 --> 00:41:28,360
like that's.

922
00:41:28,159 --> 00:41:30,440
Speaker 3: My thirtieth sane this this.

923
00:41:30,519 --> 00:41:33,239
Speaker 5: Year, you know, like obviously I want to like retire

924
00:41:33,280 --> 00:41:35,440
at some point and just take time off and shoot

925
00:41:35,480 --> 00:41:40,039
for funzies or whatever. So we talked and sat down

926
00:41:40,079 --> 00:41:43,000
and we started working on it, and yeah, it's like

927
00:41:43,079 --> 00:41:45,800
finally coming to fruition after like quite some time.

928
00:41:45,920 --> 00:41:48,800
Speaker 1: So the studio, then the content that you guys are

929
00:41:48,800 --> 00:41:52,239
shooting for the studio will go on like a personal website.

930
00:41:52,760 --> 00:41:55,639
Speaker 5: Yeah, it's called she crumble dot com. Okay, okay, got it. Yeah,

931
00:41:55,639 --> 00:41:56,760
so we own the domain.

932
00:41:56,519 --> 00:41:58,559
Speaker 1: And then you guys are like you have your own

933
00:41:58,559 --> 00:42:01,079
like CMS and your host I mean, I have my

934
00:42:01,119 --> 00:42:06,480
own website to have like elevated extra cyms.

935
00:42:03,280 --> 00:42:06,480
Speaker 4: And our own space. We don't have to worry about

936
00:42:06,480 --> 00:42:10,079
platforms censoring us, shutting us down. You own your own

937
00:42:10,280 --> 00:42:10,960
user basengs.

938
00:42:11,000 --> 00:42:13,960
Speaker 3: We're abiding by you know, the right the regular rules.

939
00:42:14,360 --> 00:42:17,000
Speaker 1: Send in like the monthly checklist now to like seg

940
00:42:17,119 --> 00:42:20,639
pay about like yeah, and like you have to have

941
00:42:20,679 --> 00:42:25,159
the special form that people can like that like says

942
00:42:25,199 --> 00:42:27,559
exactly what you're going to do if like content needs

943
00:42:27,559 --> 00:42:29,920
to be taken. It's all like stand with something to do. Yeah,

944
00:42:30,239 --> 00:42:32,159
it's just wild because I've had my own site for

945
00:42:32,199 --> 00:42:37,000
like twenty years and like the work that I have

946
00:42:37,079 --> 00:42:40,519
to do now just to like keep it up. Yes

947
00:42:40,559 --> 00:42:41,719
they can pay. It's crazy.

948
00:42:41,880 --> 00:42:43,480
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, I know.

949
00:42:43,519 --> 00:42:45,559
Speaker 5: It was one of those things where we were just like, oh,

950
00:42:45,599 --> 00:42:47,440
two two five sevens front of ID, and they're like,

951
00:42:47,440 --> 00:42:49,400
we need front of I D back of ID, Sonny

952
00:42:49,800 --> 00:42:52,159
Bunny airs two forms of ID, this form two two

953
00:42:52,239 --> 00:42:54,599
five seven on. Yeah, and then they're like and sign

954
00:42:54,679 --> 00:42:56,599
the life of your first born child away and you're

955
00:42:56,639 --> 00:42:59,039
like and then a consent check in video and a

956
00:42:59,039 --> 00:43:01,320
consent checkout video and like all these things and like,

957
00:43:01,360 --> 00:43:04,320
thankfully we've shot for mainstream, so like we were able

958
00:43:04,400 --> 00:43:07,920
to watch what they do and we were like, remember they.

959
00:43:07,800 --> 00:43:08,480
Speaker 3: Did that video.

960
00:43:08,679 --> 00:43:10,280
Speaker 5: Okay, I'm going to text so and so I'm going

961
00:43:10,280 --> 00:43:11,920
to ask them for the question so that like we

962
00:43:12,000 --> 00:43:15,320
have something that we're doing and you know, and obviously

963
00:43:15,320 --> 00:43:17,400
we won't have that for all of our videos since

964
00:43:17,440 --> 00:43:20,559
we we have over like three four hundred videos. You know,

965
00:43:20,559 --> 00:43:22,880
we just have the basic two two five seven and

966
00:43:22,880 --> 00:43:24,480
then the only fans released for them and like no

967
00:43:24,519 --> 00:43:27,239
one's going to take that and then the ID, so

968
00:43:27,639 --> 00:43:30,480
you know, we'll have to, you know, just keep working

969
00:43:30,519 --> 00:43:32,280
for it and make sure we stay complying with everything.

970
00:43:32,320 --> 00:43:34,480
And yeah, just it's a lot of work. Everyone just

971
00:43:34,519 --> 00:43:36,960
thinks like you just shoot porn and post it.

972
00:43:37,239 --> 00:43:37,960
Speaker 3: So much more than that.

973
00:43:38,039 --> 00:43:41,079
Speaker 1: It's so much work. I actually remember when when two

974
00:43:41,079 --> 00:43:43,679
two five seven came about and that became a law,

975
00:43:44,239 --> 00:43:46,239
and I was working for my parents at the time.

976
00:43:46,719 --> 00:43:49,920
My dad was like bitching about it because before that

977
00:43:50,519 --> 00:43:53,760
you never had to keep like the because now you

978
00:43:53,840 --> 00:43:56,840
have to keep on record people's ideas, social Security number,

979
00:43:56,840 --> 00:44:00,400
all this personal information and on file. Yeah, and it

980
00:44:00,440 --> 00:44:02,320
has to be there, like if they want to come

981
00:44:02,360 --> 00:44:04,960
and like check it outs, want to come and fucking

982
00:44:05,039 --> 00:44:06,440
audit you, you got to make sure that you have

983
00:44:06,480 --> 00:44:09,239
all that stuff. And I just remember my dad being like,

984
00:44:09,320 --> 00:44:11,159
this is so much paperwork?

985
00:44:11,679 --> 00:44:13,880
Speaker 4: Is this is why we use the robots now?

986
00:44:14,079 --> 00:44:14,280
Speaker 2: Yeah.

987
00:44:14,400 --> 00:44:16,519
Speaker 4: I used to be like this is awful, but now.

988
00:44:16,360 --> 00:44:19,920
Speaker 1: We have we have like filing cabinets. Yes, going back,

989
00:44:20,119 --> 00:44:23,519
like so I have so much fucking paperwork. It's just

990
00:44:23,559 --> 00:44:24,440
like bizarre.

991
00:44:25,079 --> 00:44:28,679
Speaker 5: Yeah, and then having to digitize that yeah one day,

992
00:44:29,360 --> 00:44:31,039
Oh it's all digitized now yeah.

993
00:44:30,880 --> 00:44:35,840
Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm sure, but but yeah, yeah, it's a fucking process.

994
00:44:35,920 --> 00:44:36,119
Speaker 5: Yeah.

995
00:44:36,159 --> 00:44:39,639
Speaker 4: We visited visited one of the major studios back offices

996
00:44:39,639 --> 00:44:42,199
and it's just like exactly what we described. Tons of

997
00:44:42,199 --> 00:44:44,440
filing cabinets. I'm like, that's got to be two five.

998
00:44:44,800 --> 00:44:50,480
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, so much fun. Okay, so you guys obviously

999
00:44:50,599 --> 00:44:53,119
work a lot. How do you guys keep a work

1000
00:44:53,159 --> 00:44:55,639
life balance as a married couple so that it's not

1001
00:44:55,960 --> 00:44:58,360
all about work all the time. Are you laughing because

1002
00:44:58,360 --> 00:45:06,639
that doesn't happen. You're like, what work in progress?

1003
00:45:07,079 --> 00:45:08,079
Speaker 3: I'm yeah.

1004
00:45:08,239 --> 00:45:11,440
Speaker 5: The thing is is the thing that is probably one

1005
00:45:11,480 --> 00:45:15,119
of the best things about us is that we both

1006
00:45:15,920 --> 00:45:18,760
are workaholics and we both love working.

1007
00:45:19,119 --> 00:45:19,760
Speaker 4: We enjoy it.

1008
00:45:19,880 --> 00:45:20,639
Speaker 3: We enjoy it.

1009
00:45:20,760 --> 00:45:23,199
Speaker 5: So you know how many times people have said, like,

1010
00:45:23,360 --> 00:45:24,599
you guys are workaholics.

1011
00:45:24,639 --> 00:45:25,679
Speaker 3: You guys are workaholics.

1012
00:45:25,679 --> 00:45:28,800
Speaker 5: I'm like, yeah, but like we're both workaholics. So it's

1013
00:45:28,800 --> 00:45:32,119
like we're still spending time together and we're there. Does

1014
00:45:32,159 --> 00:45:35,079
that mean like, you know, we don't get ourselves burnt out?

1015
00:45:36,800 --> 00:45:38,719
We definitely do, but we're.

1016
00:45:38,679 --> 00:45:42,599
Speaker 4: Very goal oriented though somewhere, you know, we're always going

1017
00:45:42,679 --> 00:45:43,000
for something.

1018
00:45:43,039 --> 00:45:45,960
Speaker 5: The amount of podcasts I've listened to and you know they,

1019
00:45:46,119 --> 00:45:48,920
you know, all of these financial gurus, and like they

1020
00:45:48,960 --> 00:45:50,639
always go back to the same message. They say, the

1021
00:45:50,639 --> 00:45:52,440
most important decision you're ever going to make in your

1022
00:45:52,480 --> 00:45:55,599
life is who you marry right, because if you have

1023
00:45:55,639 --> 00:45:57,800
a partner who's like, why are you always working? Why you

1024
00:45:57,840 --> 00:46:00,760
haven't paying attention to me, and then you're being an entrepreneur,

1025
00:46:01,159 --> 00:46:03,440
like it's that's hard. That's a really hard thing. But

1026
00:46:03,519 --> 00:46:06,880
when we're both like there together and we're just the

1027
00:46:06,920 --> 00:46:08,239
other day, he's given me a.

1028
00:46:08,199 --> 00:46:11,159
Speaker 3: Pep talk because I'm like, oh, this thing flopped, or.

1029
00:46:11,079 --> 00:46:14,280
Speaker 5: Oh I implemented this new like you know, welcome video

1030
00:46:14,320 --> 00:46:16,880
and I thought it would like take off and be amazing.

1031
00:46:17,000 --> 00:46:19,480
Or I did this new campaign or whatever and no

1032
00:46:19,480 --> 00:46:21,800
one bought anything and I hated it. And then this

1033
00:46:21,840 --> 00:46:23,440
and then you know, I get down on myself. He's

1034
00:46:23,480 --> 00:46:27,079
there like tearing me on, right, or vice versa. He's like, well,

1035
00:46:27,119 --> 00:46:28,960
I wish I just did something like this more.

1036
00:46:29,000 --> 00:46:29,639
Speaker 3: I wish I was.

1037
00:46:29,599 --> 00:46:31,880
Speaker 5: Better at this, And I just feel like I don't

1038
00:46:31,880 --> 00:46:34,400
know what I'm doing when it comes to marketing the studio,

1039
00:46:34,679 --> 00:46:37,719
and I'm like, of course, we haven't even launched it yet,

1040
00:46:37,760 --> 00:46:40,000
like you know, we don't know what we're doing, and like,

1041
00:46:40,039 --> 00:46:41,639
you know, just being there to like pep talk each

1042
00:46:41,639 --> 00:46:44,920
other up, I think like we do a really good

1043
00:46:45,000 --> 00:46:47,760
job or not, you know, but we probably do need

1044
00:46:47,760 --> 00:46:51,639
to set a little bit more boundaries. Yeah, I was like, hey, Friday,

1045
00:46:51,679 --> 00:46:53,719
you want to like, you know, drive to LA and

1046
00:46:54,400 --> 00:46:56,599
shoot more than.

1047
00:47:00,159 --> 00:47:01,760
Speaker 1: Are you Guys like the couple that like have a

1048
00:47:01,760 --> 00:47:05,280
hard time going on vacation and not like just great content.

1049
00:47:05,360 --> 00:47:08,159
Speaker 4: We're going on vacation well well.

1050
00:47:08,199 --> 00:47:09,559
Speaker 3: Not and not shooting content.

1051
00:47:09,719 --> 00:47:12,639
Speaker 4: Well it depends. So most of our trips we we

1052
00:47:12,719 --> 00:47:15,119
like to blend it. Yeah, you know the problem. We

1053
00:47:15,239 --> 00:47:17,719
like to have a reason for where like we'll go

1054
00:47:17,760 --> 00:47:20,159
see a friend and then we'll do some work related thing.

1055
00:47:21,239 --> 00:47:23,840
We did take our first like true vacation for me.

1056
00:47:23,840 --> 00:47:26,639
Speaker 3: Like it's a text right all exactly exactly.

1057
00:47:26,280 --> 00:47:30,320
Speaker 4: And we're in one of those industries where, oddly enough

1058
00:47:30,360 --> 00:47:32,880
you can justify a lot of expenses that normally you

1059
00:47:32,920 --> 00:47:36,360
couldn't in other industries because it is in pursuit of

1060
00:47:37,079 --> 00:47:39,760
an income. So it's like totally valid. But we did

1061
00:47:39,800 --> 00:47:41,840
take our first like true vacation.

1062
00:47:42,000 --> 00:47:45,840
Speaker 3: Yes, since probably since our our honeymoon. We went to Japan.

1063
00:47:46,440 --> 00:47:48,000
We went to Japan for two weeks.

1064
00:47:47,719 --> 00:47:50,800
Speaker 4: And we were fully checked out there. We just food traveled.

1065
00:47:51,039 --> 00:47:53,719
Speaker 5: We like we had like our camera, but it was

1066
00:47:53,760 --> 00:47:56,519
more for just us to film stuff and like just

1067
00:47:56,559 --> 00:47:57,000
be fun.

1068
00:47:57,039 --> 00:48:00,480
Speaker 3: And like for the mems and you know, yeah we did.

1069
00:48:00,599 --> 00:48:03,519
Speaker 5: We did film a couple of like social media like tiktoks,

1070
00:48:03,519 --> 00:48:05,760
like me running across Shibuia, like crossing and like that

1071
00:48:06,039 --> 00:48:06,639
silly stuff.

1072
00:48:06,679 --> 00:48:09,400
Speaker 3: But it wasn't like work, and it was the best

1073
00:48:09,400 --> 00:48:09,800
two weeks.

1074
00:48:09,840 --> 00:48:11,840
Speaker 5: It was not a business right, No, that one was

1075
00:48:11,880 --> 00:48:14,400
not a business right, And we just had the most

1076
00:48:14,480 --> 00:48:15,239
amazing time.

1077
00:48:15,440 --> 00:48:16,679
Speaker 1: So that sounds awesome.

1078
00:48:16,760 --> 00:48:17,239
Speaker 3: It was great.

1079
00:48:17,440 --> 00:48:19,920
Speaker 1: I'd love to go to Japan one day. I don't

1080
00:48:19,960 --> 00:48:24,679
feel like trouble is in my future. Okay, So I

1081
00:48:24,719 --> 00:48:28,119
want to talk to you a little bit about your

1082
00:48:28,320 --> 00:48:29,199
body makeup.

1083
00:48:29,599 --> 00:48:32,599
Speaker 2: Yes, not physical, yes, yes, but yeah, because we spoke

1084
00:48:32,639 --> 00:48:33,199
about it a.

1085
00:48:33,079 --> 00:48:35,679
Speaker 1: Little bit before the podcast, and I was like super

1086
00:48:35,719 --> 00:48:39,400
interested because you have an inside out pussy.

1087
00:48:39,079 --> 00:48:43,519
Speaker 3: Yes, inside out that I need to know more. We will.

1088
00:48:43,840 --> 00:48:45,840
I will show you, I will show you act.

1089
00:48:46,000 --> 00:48:46,639
Speaker 1: I'm very excited.

1090
00:48:46,679 --> 00:48:49,000
Speaker 5: First off, I didn't even know, you know, that my

1091
00:48:49,280 --> 00:48:52,360
pussy was any different than anyone else's, because you know,

1092
00:48:52,800 --> 00:48:56,320
I did watch porn, you know, growing up, but there's

1093
00:48:56,320 --> 00:48:58,159
always so many being fucked or there's a finger in there.

1094
00:48:58,159 --> 00:48:59,559
So I was just like, well, I don't know, maybe

1095
00:48:59,599 --> 00:49:02,280
mine does if you push it in like it looks normal.

1096
00:49:03,880 --> 00:49:08,559
But when I was twenty I found out that I

1097
00:49:08,639 --> 00:49:09,719
was born without a uterus.

1098
00:49:10,280 --> 00:49:11,400
Speaker 3: It's just like a birth effect.

1099
00:49:11,760 --> 00:49:16,079
Speaker 5: And because of that, so the way the anatomy works, right,

1100
00:49:16,119 --> 00:49:18,760
so you have like the entrance of your vagina and

1101
00:49:18,760 --> 00:49:21,480
then you have the vaginal canal that leads up to

1102
00:49:21,519 --> 00:49:24,880
your cervix that attaches to your uterus. Well, if there's

1103
00:49:24,920 --> 00:49:27,880
no uterus and there's no cervix, you still have the

1104
00:49:27,960 --> 00:49:31,079
vaginal canal because that's what's forming as you're you know,

1105
00:49:31,559 --> 00:49:32,920
forming as a kid or as a baby.

1106
00:49:33,840 --> 00:49:35,320
Speaker 3: It doesn't have anything to attach to.

1107
00:49:35,519 --> 00:49:40,159
Speaker 5: So this tissue just comes out and it's called a prolapse.

1108
00:49:41,360 --> 00:49:44,400
And it wasn't even until I was like getting laser

1109
00:49:44,440 --> 00:49:46,679
hair removal and like sitting in the chair, leg spread

1110
00:49:46,960 --> 00:49:49,480
and she's like, oh, you have a prolapse vagina And

1111
00:49:49,519 --> 00:49:52,880
I was like, excuse me, ma'am, what is that? It

1112
00:49:52,920 --> 00:49:55,400
was like every couple of years, I just like kept

1113
00:49:55,440 --> 00:49:57,119
finding out things about myself.

1114
00:49:57,159 --> 00:50:00,000
Speaker 3: Like what twenty I found out I didn't have a uterus.

1115
00:50:00,079 --> 00:50:01,400
Speaker 5: I was like, Okay, I got to deal with that

1116
00:50:01,559 --> 00:50:05,119
emotional trauma, but sure we work through that. Great moving on.

1117
00:50:05,639 --> 00:50:07,639
Then I go for my first PAP smear, and I

1118
00:50:07,639 --> 00:50:09,880
have a doctor who's like, let's do the pap smear.

1119
00:50:09,960 --> 00:50:13,519
She is like looking inside, She's like hmm. I'm like,

1120
00:50:13,519 --> 00:50:15,440
I would really like you to not make that sound

1121
00:50:15,559 --> 00:50:18,119
when you're like inside my vagina right now, thank you.

1122
00:50:18,760 --> 00:50:20,559
And she's like, you know, I'm just the nurse. Let

1123
00:50:20,559 --> 00:50:22,559
me go grab the obgyn. And I was like, okay,

1124
00:50:22,599 --> 00:50:24,840
obgan comes in. I got two people up in there,

1125
00:50:24,880 --> 00:50:27,760
and they will go hmm. I'm like, once again, I

1126
00:50:28,039 --> 00:50:29,880
really like you guys to stop doing that. And they're like,

1127
00:50:30,239 --> 00:50:32,480
let's get one more just in case, and I'm like what,

1128
00:50:32,639 --> 00:50:34,880
we have a whole circus in here, like I'm like

1129
00:50:35,039 --> 00:50:38,199
spread on the table just like look.

1130
00:50:38,079 --> 00:50:41,119
Speaker 3: I'm not uh huh. And then they all just go

1131
00:50:41,599 --> 00:50:44,320
and I cannot make this up. They all just go hmm.

1132
00:50:44,320 --> 00:50:47,000
I said, all right, okay, I literally get off the steps.

1133
00:50:47,039 --> 00:50:49,719
I said, I really need you guys to stop saying that.

1134
00:50:50,320 --> 00:50:52,920
What the fuck is going on? And they're like, so

1135
00:50:53,039 --> 00:50:56,039
we can't really seem to find your cervix and like,

1136
00:50:56,079 --> 00:50:58,559
what the fuck do you mean? Is there like a map?

1137
00:50:58,639 --> 00:51:00,800
Is it lost? Like is like what's going on?

1138
00:51:00,880 --> 00:51:03,159
Speaker 5: And they're like you know, and they're all talking and

1139
00:51:03,159 --> 00:51:04,719
they're like, you don't have a uterus, right, And they're

1140
00:51:04,760 --> 00:51:07,199
like yes, And then they're like, if you don't have

1141
00:51:07,199 --> 00:51:09,800
a uterus, chances are you also don't have a cervix.

1142
00:51:09,840 --> 00:51:12,519
I'm like, oh my gosh, you know those like shots

1143
00:51:12,559 --> 00:51:14,559
that you got to like for cervical cancer. I'm like,

1144
00:51:14,599 --> 00:51:16,639
so you're telling me I didn't fucking need those those things,

1145
00:51:16,639 --> 00:51:18,199
fucking her. I'm like running through all these things that

1146
00:51:18,199 --> 00:51:20,800
I'm like getting angry about right in my head, and

1147
00:51:20,800 --> 00:51:22,960
they're like, yeah, you don't have fun. I'm like, well,

1148
00:51:23,880 --> 00:51:25,840
I guess that's one last thing I have to worry

1149
00:51:25,840 --> 00:51:26,639
about as a woman.

1150
00:51:26,760 --> 00:51:28,559
Speaker 1: So wait when they found out that you didn't have

1151
00:51:28,599 --> 00:51:31,119
a uterus? When how did they find that out?

1152
00:51:31,440 --> 00:51:31,559
Speaker 2: So?

1153
00:51:31,719 --> 00:51:34,519
Speaker 5: I I've never had a period, right, But I was

1154
00:51:34,519 --> 00:51:39,000
a dancer, cheerleader, like super active my whole life, so

1155
00:51:39,000 --> 00:51:43,079
it wasn't abnormal. My family women are also late bloomers

1156
00:51:43,079 --> 00:51:45,199
for that, so it wasn't abnormal. When I was like

1157
00:51:45,239 --> 00:51:48,760
sixteen seventeen not getting a period, eighteen started getting a

1158
00:51:48,760 --> 00:51:51,400
little weird, I was like, what's going on?

1159
00:51:52,320 --> 00:51:54,199
Speaker 3: So I actually did go to the doctor.

1160
00:51:55,239 --> 00:51:57,199
Speaker 5: I went to the ogo an she had a little

1161
00:51:57,239 --> 00:51:59,119
pelvic exam, and she was like, you know, we're gonna

1162
00:51:59,119 --> 00:52:02,280
need to have you get at an ultrasound. At that time,

1163
00:52:02,320 --> 00:52:05,559
my dad lost his business, which we lost our health insurance,

1164
00:52:05,639 --> 00:52:08,239
so I wasn't able to go back to the doctor

1165
00:52:08,320 --> 00:52:10,639
until we figured it out. But by that time I

1166
00:52:10,719 --> 00:52:13,840
kind of was like I just in my head, I

1167
00:52:13,880 --> 00:52:15,960
think I was afraid to hear the news.

1168
00:52:15,960 --> 00:52:17,960
Speaker 3: So I kind of was like, well, I've made it

1169
00:52:18,000 --> 00:52:20,360
this far, so like, what's the big deal.

1170
00:52:21,159 --> 00:52:24,519
Speaker 5: And then I met Cookie Daddy and I was like,

1171
00:52:25,199 --> 00:52:27,119
you know, I think he could be it and I

1172
00:52:27,119 --> 00:52:28,400
should probably go find out.

1173
00:52:29,199 --> 00:52:34,559
Speaker 3: And I went and the.

1174
00:52:34,760 --> 00:52:36,440
Speaker 5: I went to UCLA, was trying to go to like

1175
00:52:36,480 --> 00:52:38,440
best doctors, trying to figure out exactly what's wrong with me.

1176
00:52:38,920 --> 00:52:42,800
And that doctor was like, I knew because when I

1177
00:52:42,800 --> 00:52:45,159
went inside and I pushed on your stomach, I should

1178
00:52:45,159 --> 00:52:47,800
feel something and your first doctor should have told you

1179
00:52:47,800 --> 00:52:48,480
that two years ago.

1180
00:52:48,719 --> 00:52:51,320
Speaker 3: And so I was like, great, love that for me.

1181
00:52:52,239 --> 00:52:54,440
Speaker 5: So I dealt with that and then yeah, I was

1182
00:52:54,480 --> 00:52:56,599
just going in for a routine check up when I

1183
00:52:56,639 --> 00:52:58,639
was in college and they were like, when is was

1184
00:52:58,639 --> 00:52:58,960
your lap?

1185
00:52:59,000 --> 00:53:01,239
Speaker 3: Perhapsmeir never got one, so let's do it. Then they

1186
00:53:01,239 --> 00:53:01,800
find that out.

1187
00:53:01,920 --> 00:53:03,840
Speaker 1: It just seems odd that they would figure out you

1188
00:53:04,000 --> 00:53:08,000
to didn't ever uterus, but then also didn't know that

1189
00:53:08,079 --> 00:53:09,519
you didn't have a service, Like you.

1190
00:53:09,519 --> 00:53:11,639
Speaker 3: Think that you think they would say, well, right, that's

1191
00:53:11,639 --> 00:53:12,199
what I'm saying.

1192
00:53:12,199 --> 00:53:14,400
Speaker 5: I'm like, can everybody just give me like a full

1193
00:53:14,440 --> 00:53:17,320
comprehensive list of like all the organs I'm missing so

1194
00:53:17,400 --> 00:53:19,639
I can just like move the fuck on with my

1195
00:53:19,719 --> 00:53:21,360
life and like thanks?

1196
00:53:21,840 --> 00:53:22,079
Speaker 3: You know.

1197
00:53:22,599 --> 00:53:24,880
Speaker 5: So, yeah, it's just been one thing after the next,

1198
00:53:24,880 --> 00:53:27,960
and then getting into the industry, uh, you know, once

1199
00:53:28,000 --> 00:53:32,159
you kind of start seeing like all the pussies, I'm like, wow,

1200
00:53:32,840 --> 00:53:35,639
I've never seen anybody with mine. And I was starting

1201
00:53:35,679 --> 00:53:37,800
to get very self conscious, and so I actually was

1202
00:53:37,840 --> 00:53:38,880
trying to find.

1203
00:53:40,840 --> 00:53:43,519
Speaker 3: Medical tools that you can like put inside to like

1204
00:53:43,599 --> 00:53:44,480
hold you in.

1205
00:53:44,840 --> 00:53:47,559
Speaker 5: But because of my anatomy and because I had no

1206
00:53:47,639 --> 00:53:49,880
pulvic floor, because your public floor is what holds your

1207
00:53:50,000 --> 00:53:53,440
uterus up, yeah, that muscle just like essentially atro feed,

1208
00:53:53,599 --> 00:53:55,440
and so I really didn't have like a public floor

1209
00:53:55,480 --> 00:53:55,920
at all.

1210
00:53:56,360 --> 00:53:59,440
Speaker 3: And so you know, I was very very self conscious.

1211
00:53:59,440 --> 00:54:01,920
Speaker 5: And I remember are going into Slade when they called me,

1212
00:54:01,960 --> 00:54:05,519
which like they were my protein debut, and like I

1213
00:54:05,679 --> 00:54:08,639
was like, oh my gosh, I love them, and I

1214
00:54:08,679 --> 00:54:10,519
remember having to bend over and like pull my cheeks

1215
00:54:10,519 --> 00:54:12,480
apart for them to like take a picture for like

1216
00:54:12,639 --> 00:54:15,719
you know, the directors for choosing, like I guess what

1217
00:54:15,840 --> 00:54:17,559
kind of models they want to like put together.

1218
00:54:17,880 --> 00:54:21,760
Speaker 1: Wait, they took a picture of your vagina, I think so, yeah,

1219
00:54:21,800 --> 00:54:23,159
to decide what other girls.

1220
00:54:23,239 --> 00:54:25,199
Speaker 3: I'm assuming I didn't really ask, they just like to

1221
00:54:25,400 --> 00:54:25,800
a picture.

1222
00:54:25,840 --> 00:54:27,800
Speaker 1: I never heard of that really.

1223
00:54:28,079 --> 00:54:31,400
Speaker 4: No, No, when they when they onboarded you, they have

1224
00:54:31,559 --> 00:54:34,000
a database of models, so when they're trying to put

1225
00:54:34,000 --> 00:54:36,039
people together together talent, I don't think it has anything

1226
00:54:36,039 --> 00:54:37,960
to do with like you're natty right.

1227
00:54:38,159 --> 00:54:39,480
Speaker 3: No, no, no, no, That's what I'm saying.

1228
00:54:40,239 --> 00:54:41,280
Speaker 4: Okay, too cute.

1229
00:54:41,159 --> 00:54:43,159
Speaker 5: Yeah, but like I bend over and I like opened

1230
00:54:43,239 --> 00:54:44,960
up my my cheeks and they took a picture.

1231
00:54:45,320 --> 00:54:46,039
Speaker 3: Is that no? Normal?

1232
00:54:46,719 --> 00:54:46,880
Speaker 4: No?

1233
00:54:47,119 --> 00:54:49,239
Speaker 3: Oh, okay, well news today.

1234
00:54:50,039 --> 00:54:52,039
Speaker 1: I've never asked for a picture of a girl's like

1235
00:54:52,159 --> 00:54:55,159
vagina to book them or to think about like pairing

1236
00:54:55,280 --> 00:54:58,880
vaginas together. I try to pair like height and like

1237
00:54:58,360 --> 00:54:59,440
ye like coloring.

1238
00:54:59,639 --> 00:55:00,400
Speaker 4: Huh.

1239
00:55:00,400 --> 00:55:02,800
Speaker 5: But maybe they're like maybe they're like this pussy and

1240
00:55:02,800 --> 00:55:04,280
this pussy would look fantastic together.

1241
00:55:04,360 --> 00:55:08,360
Speaker 1: I mean, you know, attention to detail. They're a very

1242
00:55:08,400 --> 00:55:09,599
successful web.

1243
00:55:10,960 --> 00:55:16,719
Speaker 5: Like lips, and these lips would looking each other. That's

1244
00:55:16,760 --> 00:55:20,719
probably so I just remember being like very self conscious.

1245
00:55:20,719 --> 00:55:22,320
So I was like, oh my gosh, I wonder if

1246
00:55:22,320 --> 00:55:24,360
they're going to just like hate what I look like.

1247
00:55:24,519 --> 00:55:24,719
Speaker 2: You know.

1248
00:55:25,039 --> 00:55:27,480
Speaker 5: Obviously that wasn't the case. I've shot three times for

1249
00:55:27,519 --> 00:55:32,199
them with amazing co stars, so but it wasn't until

1250
00:55:32,199 --> 00:55:37,880
I was actually on a stream and uh, they did

1251
00:55:37,920 --> 00:55:40,760
like a pussy comparison, and I remember like my heart

1252
00:55:40,960 --> 00:55:43,519
just like pumping, and I was like about to cry

1253
00:55:43,559 --> 00:55:45,440
because I didn't know that that's what the ticket show

1254
00:55:45,480 --> 00:55:45,920
was going to be.

1255
00:55:46,400 --> 00:55:48,760
Speaker 3: And it's a camera like right up in.

1256
00:55:48,719 --> 00:55:51,719
Speaker 5: There and you literally like give a detail about your pussy,

1257
00:55:51,719 --> 00:55:53,199
and so I was just like everyone was doing it,

1258
00:55:53,239 --> 00:55:55,199
and so I sat there and said, all.

1259
00:55:55,159 --> 00:55:56,360
Speaker 3: Right, let's rock it out.

1260
00:55:56,440 --> 00:55:58,039
Speaker 5: And so I it was like the first time I

1261
00:55:58,079 --> 00:56:01,199
had really like talked about it, like very in detail

1262
00:56:01,239 --> 00:56:02,840
and explained it to a bunch of people, and all

1263
00:56:02,880 --> 00:56:05,079
of the girls were like, that's amazing, Oh my gosh,

1264
00:56:05,159 --> 00:56:08,239
you have so such a unique pussy, and they posted

1265
00:56:08,280 --> 00:56:11,679
that I think it was on porn Hub and they

1266
00:56:12,079 --> 00:56:15,159
the messages I get from a bunch of people being like,

1267
00:56:15,280 --> 00:56:18,159
it was very admirable for you to talk about your

1268
00:56:18,159 --> 00:56:20,440
birth the fact, and because of that, like I feel

1269
00:56:20,440 --> 00:56:23,039
a lot more comfortable about mine, and so like sharing

1270
00:56:23,039 --> 00:56:25,519
that story actually like kind of like was very wholesome

1271
00:56:25,559 --> 00:56:27,440
and like warmed my heart in like a way that

1272
00:56:27,480 --> 00:56:27,840
I just.

1273
00:56:27,800 --> 00:56:28,840
Speaker 3: Really didn't expect.

1274
00:56:29,360 --> 00:56:31,360
Speaker 5: And like my fans too, Like now I talk about

1275
00:56:31,400 --> 00:56:33,760
it very openly on my live streams every week and they're.

1276
00:56:33,559 --> 00:56:35,320
Speaker 1: Like, we love your plastic cockey.

1277
00:56:35,679 --> 00:56:39,480
Speaker 3: That's amazing, you know, So they're just like my hype guys.

1278
00:56:39,519 --> 00:56:42,119
Speaker 1: And a lot of women are really self conscious about

1279
00:56:42,119 --> 00:56:46,239
their vagina, but like men just like vagina, Yeah.

1280
00:56:46,079 --> 00:56:48,239
Speaker 4: It doesn't matter, one of those things, like you can't

1281
00:56:48,440 --> 00:56:50,000
change certain things about yourself.

1282
00:56:50,440 --> 00:56:52,920
Speaker 1: Were you nervous about him seeing it for the first time.

1283
00:56:52,880 --> 00:56:56,079
Speaker 5: No, because back then I just didn't I didn't know, okay, Yeah,

1284
00:56:56,079 --> 00:56:57,480
And like that was like the other thing he had

1285
00:56:57,480 --> 00:56:58,960
told me when I was like, Babe, just like don't

1286
00:56:59,000 --> 00:57:01,000
get up close, like get a different angle or like

1287
00:57:01,079 --> 00:57:02,719
let me just like finger myself or whatever.

1288
00:57:02,960 --> 00:57:05,320
Speaker 3: He's like, Babe. In the amount of guys that you

1289
00:57:05,360 --> 00:57:06,920
have slept with in the past.

1290
00:57:07,039 --> 00:57:09,239
Speaker 5: Have they ever been like looked at your pussy and

1291
00:57:09,280 --> 00:57:14,039
said no, yeah, And I was like no, and he's like, okay,

1292
00:57:14,159 --> 00:57:16,599
you have nothing to worry about that baby like you are.

1293
00:57:16,639 --> 00:57:19,199
You are beautiful exactly the way that you are, and

1294
00:57:19,280 --> 00:57:21,960
everyone is going to learn to appreciate that. So now

1295
00:57:22,000 --> 00:57:24,239
it's kind of like, you know, I'm like, I have

1296
00:57:24,280 --> 00:57:26,000
the most unique pussy in the industry.

1297
00:57:26,119 --> 00:57:28,480
Speaker 3: Show me a more unique pussy than that. I don't know,

1298
00:57:29,199 --> 00:57:29,960
but uh yeah.

1299
00:57:30,039 --> 00:57:32,480
Speaker 1: So and you said that you've had to like teach

1300
00:57:32,559 --> 00:57:34,960
girls how to finger you probably yes.

1301
00:57:34,719 --> 00:57:38,480
Speaker 5: Yes, okay, so because of how the anatomy is, and

1302
00:57:38,519 --> 00:57:40,320
you'll see when when I show you the picture, you're like, okay,

1303
00:57:40,320 --> 00:57:40,719
I get it.

1304
00:57:40,960 --> 00:57:42,639
Speaker 3: You have to like there.

1305
00:57:42,559 --> 00:57:46,519
Speaker 5: Is a almost like a little U ball. It's like

1306
00:57:46,519 --> 00:57:48,519
a little ball that like sits out and you have

1307
00:57:48,559 --> 00:57:51,159
to push and like push that back up inside. So

1308
00:57:51,679 --> 00:57:54,840
girls don't know to how how much force they have

1309
00:57:54,880 --> 00:57:56,480
to do. It's not like they're jabbing it in there,

1310
00:57:56,480 --> 00:57:58,159
but you have to push harder than you know. Obviously

1311
00:57:58,199 --> 00:58:00,840
a girl that just has like an open hole. And

1312
00:58:00,920 --> 00:58:03,760
so before we shoot our threesomes, if we haven't shot

1313
00:58:03,800 --> 00:58:05,880
a girl girl beforehand, or you know, right before we

1314
00:58:05,880 --> 00:58:08,000
shoot the girl. Girl, I'm like, come over here and

1315
00:58:08,079 --> 00:58:10,719
let's do an anatomy lesson and I go take your

1316
00:58:10,760 --> 00:58:13,559
fingers and just push and they're like.

1317
00:58:13,559 --> 00:58:14,360
Speaker 3: Even with my nails.

1318
00:58:14,400 --> 00:58:17,039
Speaker 5: I'm like, there's no feeling at the online tissue, Like

1319
00:58:17,239 --> 00:58:21,960
even with your your non lesbian fingernails, you can push.

1320
00:58:21,840 --> 00:58:24,360
Speaker 3: Those bad boys up in there and it'll agree.

1321
00:58:24,400 --> 00:58:27,280
Speaker 5: And just you know, this is how it works because

1322
00:58:27,280 --> 00:58:28,639
in the past I used to not do that, And

1323
00:58:28,639 --> 00:58:30,360
then the girls are trying to figure it out and like,

1324
00:58:30,360 --> 00:58:32,440
in all honesty, I've been like poked in the pe

1325
00:58:32,559 --> 00:58:36,360
hole before and that They're like, oh, that must yeah,

1326
00:58:36,400 --> 00:58:39,480
and I'm like I've literally been like whoop and I'm like, no,

1327
00:58:39,639 --> 00:58:41,480
that's not the hole, the other one.

1328
00:58:41,519 --> 00:58:44,480
Speaker 3: And you gotta make the hole, you know, you gotta

1329
00:58:44,559 --> 00:58:45,960
org got me back up inside me.

1330
00:58:46,239 --> 00:58:46,920
Speaker 1: Yeah.

1331
00:58:47,039 --> 00:58:49,840
Speaker 5: So it's a it's been interesting, but now I just

1332
00:58:49,880 --> 00:58:52,039
own it and it's silly and it's funny, and you know,

1333
00:58:52,079 --> 00:58:54,119
the girls are like ha ha, They're like, oh, this

1334
00:58:54,239 --> 00:58:54,960
is fun. You know.

1335
00:58:55,000 --> 00:58:57,800
Speaker 1: It's amazing how like sex work and exposing yourself in

1336
00:58:57,800 --> 00:59:01,079
such a vulnerable way can actually help you accept your

1337
00:59:01,079 --> 00:59:03,400
body the way that it is, rather than like carry

1338
00:59:03,440 --> 00:59:06,400
this like secret shame with yourself, you know, like yeah,

1339
00:59:06,400 --> 00:59:08,320
because you don't get that feedback.

1340
00:59:08,519 --> 00:59:11,280
Speaker 4: It's perfect, right, you just gotta yea all what you got.

1341
00:59:11,440 --> 00:59:15,199
Speaker 5: Can't change it, and there's nothing there's nothing wrong with that. Yeah,

1342
00:59:15,440 --> 00:59:18,719
dicks coming all shapes and sizes, pussy's coming all. They're

1343
00:59:18,760 --> 00:59:20,599
like a little bit more uniform, I think, but like

1344
00:59:20,639 --> 00:59:23,719
they're also like you know, there's all over the place.

1345
00:59:24,000 --> 00:59:27,320
Speaker 1: Speaking, I have dicks. Because this is a question that

1346
00:59:27,360 --> 00:59:30,840
we get pretty frequently. Here is penis that is important

1347
00:59:30,880 --> 00:59:31,760
to you personally?

1348
00:59:31,760 --> 00:59:32,400
Speaker 3: For me, it's not.

1349
00:59:33,920 --> 00:59:37,079
Speaker 5: I definitely think there has to be a minimum of

1350
00:59:37,199 --> 00:59:39,199
like I have to be able to feel it up

1351
00:59:39,199 --> 00:59:42,559
inside me. Otherwise you better be very very great with

1352
00:59:42,599 --> 00:59:43,719
your tongue and your finger.

1353
00:59:44,840 --> 00:59:48,000
Speaker 3: But for me, I'm not like a size queen.

1354
00:59:49,440 --> 00:59:52,159
Speaker 5: The opposite of that, though, is because I don't have

1355
00:59:52,199 --> 00:59:55,199
a cervix, I can take a pretty fucking large dick.

1356
00:59:55,800 --> 00:59:59,239
So Cookie Daddy is very well endowed. He's got a

1357
00:59:59,360 --> 01:00:01,480
very grothy dick. He has been told by many of

1358
01:00:01,519 --> 01:00:04,440
our co stars. They are like, wow, that's a girthy boy.

1359
01:00:05,000 --> 01:00:07,480
I'm like, yep, and I can just get you know,

1360
01:00:07,760 --> 01:00:08,559
I can take it.

1361
01:00:08,519 --> 01:00:10,159
Speaker 1: If I get to see a picture of Virgina cause

1362
01:00:10,159 --> 01:00:12,000
they see a picture of a penis. Just because you

1363
01:00:12,239 --> 01:00:13,679
like talked it up.

1364
01:00:13,920 --> 01:00:17,920
Speaker 3: Feel we may have one or two them.

1365
01:00:22,400 --> 01:00:24,599
Speaker 1: Oh my god, amazing. Well, thank you guys so much

1366
01:00:24,599 --> 01:00:26,840
for coming on. It's been such a pure It's amazing.

1367
01:00:26,880 --> 01:00:29,320
I appreciate you driving all the way up of course

1368
01:00:29,400 --> 01:00:30,719
to come here. I know it was a bit of

1369
01:00:30,719 --> 01:00:31,519
a drive, so.

1370
01:00:31,519 --> 01:00:33,199
Speaker 4: You know what we call up here quite a bit.

1371
01:00:33,400 --> 01:00:34,719
Speaker 3: Yeah, we loved it, so thank you.

1372
01:00:35,039 --> 01:00:37,960
Speaker 1: So I do have some Patreon questions which I'm going

1373
01:00:38,000 --> 01:00:41,400
to ask in a separate segment as usual. So if

1374
01:00:41,440 --> 01:00:43,719
you're a member my Patreon, you get to send in

1375
01:00:43,800 --> 01:00:46,480
these questions for my guests, and of course you get

1376
01:00:46,519 --> 01:00:49,840
to watch them answer it. If you are not, we'll

1377
01:00:49,840 --> 01:00:52,800
shame on you. Go to patreon dot com slash Holly

1378
01:00:52,880 --> 01:00:56,440
Randall Unfiltered. It is five dollars a month, so like

1379
01:00:57,840 --> 01:01:02,199
less expensive then a coffee at Starbucks, and you just

1380
01:01:02,320 --> 01:01:05,119
get to watch these streamed live. You get all this

1381
01:01:05,159 --> 01:01:10,920
bonus content. It's just like the most amazing experience. Can you,

1382
01:01:11,039 --> 01:01:13,199
guys let everybody know where they can find you online?

1383
01:01:13,239 --> 01:01:13,559
Speaker 3: Please?

1384
01:01:13,719 --> 01:01:16,599
Speaker 5: Yes? So you can find us on cookie Jarfficial dot

1385
01:01:16,599 --> 01:01:19,840
com or on our new studio, she Crumble dot com.

1386
01:01:19,840 --> 01:01:22,360
Speaker 1: And you guys can of course find me Instagram and

1387
01:01:22,480 --> 01:01:25,119
ex at Holly Randall. Go to hollylinks for access to

1388
01:01:25,800 --> 01:01:28,199
all of my platforms. Again, thank you so much to

1389
01:01:28,239 --> 01:01:31,199
strip Chat for sponsoring this show. Go look them up

1390
01:01:31,199 --> 01:01:35,360
online or go to scworld dot Official on YouTube or

1391
01:01:35,400 --> 01:01:38,480
on Instagram and follow them there. All right, guys, I'll

1392
01:01:38,480 --> 01:01:39,280
see you in the next one.

1393
01:01:39,760 --> 01:01:57,840
Speaker 3: Bye.