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Speaker 3: Would it be amazing if our government only funded Now
this is going to sound so heartless here at the
end of the year that I don't mean for it too.
And I'm not going to belabor this one or get
into it in great detail. But if the government was
only funding the actual outline of what the Constitution told
it to, if we just got rid of all the
superflace fortn aid, imagine foreign Aid's gone.
Speaker 2: I mean, I happen to like fourn aid, but I
think do we need it?
Speaker 3: Because, by the way, foreign aid, if you like thirty
countries that are in it and you don't like five,
it's all lumped into one. So if you're funding Turkey
and Israel and Rwanda and you don't like one of them,
it's all the same. It's all one giant bill. All
of those other government programs. And by the way, if
we're being honest, have they really worked now social Security?
Wouldn't it have been interesting if Social Security was a
separate entity. What if the Social Security Administration was not
government run but actually had some important it was a
national retirement service that everybody could invest in. The returns
would be greater, it wouldn't be under assault, it would
not be as prone to partisan hackery. It wouldn't be
and you would have more money in all likelihood, just
even if it was just kind of broadly broadly invested
far better. Would actually have performance, which is not what
you have now. You don't have performance. Imagine if Medicaid Medicare,
and i'm gonna say this in a way that's gonna
sound horrible, if it didn't exist, would our medical care
be the way it is now. Imagine I mean if
we came back from World War Two and instead of
having medical insurance as a way to compete and get workers,
we had I've said this before, food insurance or something else.
I think medicine would have evolved much in a much
more productive, efficient manner if government had never gotten into it.
I think that everything that government. And then if you
want a good example of this, look at the food pyramid.
Look at what should be the simplicity of a food pyramid,
and the government screwed it up because they were wrong
on so many counts. Moving back, because there were so
many political interests in various aspects of the food pyramid
that was just wrong. I mean, eggs were under assault
for decades and they're fine, they're wonderful, good for Oh
so they can't even get eggs right. Eggs the most
primitive foods we eat. They can't even get that right.
And you think they can get the complexity of everything
else in our lives. So if they were just doing
national defense, which is killed people break things, even a
caveman couldn't understand that, and they were doing public safety
and maybe regulating interstate commerce in some way, that's about it.
I mean, I'm not too much more needed to be done.
We don't need a federal department of education. The states
can handle environment, the states can handle education. The states
can handle most of the things that the federal government's
involved in. But just imagine if you would, we wouldn't
be all we've done. We've leveraged our country thirty six
trillion dollars, and let did it really make What made
us better was the internet, access to it, access to
information of the internal combustion engine.
Speaker 2: I mean, maybe they do highways. Maybe they could do highways,
that would be a good one.
Speaker 3: That's interstate commerce, right, So there's many things that they
really didn't do a lot to make it better, more efficient.
I don't think you could say that Lyndon Johnson's Great
Society had great achievements. It created massive programs that didn't
solve any of the things it was set out to do.
Because the delusion of social engineering, it's an absolute delusion.
Speaker 2: It doesn't work. It just makes people dependent.
Speaker 3: But a last I digress, and we may talk a
little bit more about this. Right now, we have a caller, Ray,
Welcome to the show.
Speaker 2: How the heck are.
Speaker 4: You I'm doing good. Hi about yourself.
Speaker 2: I am wonderful.
Speaker 4: My question is, uh, well, my comments I should say
is a most security was made for when you retire.
That's what the money is for.
Speaker 3: Right. Well, you weren't supposed to live that long and
collect off of it, so they never changed the age
you were supposed to kind of if you live that long,
there was supposed to be a little something for you. Yeah, right, well,
you aren't supposed to live that long and collect off
of it, so they never changed the kind of live
that long.
Speaker 2: I think your radio ray is on the background, but
go ahead, Oh your okay?
Speaker 4: Right? Thanks, okay, I am living this long. I've been
putting him for forty five years, right, So happened thirty
thirty or twenty thirty five? It's we're gonna run out
of money, you know why because it was made for
us to retire on and they put all these exclusions
on and nothing against disabilities or anything like that. But
that's not what it was meant for or your kids.
It wasn't meant not meant for your kids. If you
died and all guess what he died, Oh, you get
the money. That's that's really one of the reasons it's
running out. And the third one is all these immigrants. No,
they didn't pay in the strap and so now oh
we've got we're given all money. Join well.
Speaker 3: Ray. Part of it is that the money obligate that
you put into it. And I hate to say this,
it's going to sound even worse than what you're saying.
And a lot of what you said it's true is
it's a massive pyramid scheme. Is that the money you
put in it was used to pay people that retired
long ago, and now the money that you're collecting is
from workers that are paying into it today. And so
the left would say, hey, we need all these illegals
to be paying into Social Security.
Speaker 2: To keep it solvent.
Speaker 3: Instead of trying to fix it, they just want to
just kind of pass the buck one down. And you
weren't allowed to have any determination of where that money went.
And you'll never get back out of it. You worked
for forty five years. There's no way in hell you
get all the money out of it that you put
into it.
Speaker 2: There's no way. And you can't confer it if you.
Speaker 3: Had in a mutual fund, if you had all that
in a mutual fund, you could give it to your
kids if you died, but you can't.
Speaker 4: So so how come we can't take you know, the
main thing is for one of the things is we
have to put in those security money, right.
Speaker 3: Yeah, and the employer has to match it.
Speaker 2: So it's about fifteen percent.
Speaker 4: So why can't Why can't we put that money where
you know what's going to.
Speaker 3: Go for it? You would think you would have some control.
You have no control over it. It's an annuity that
you never get the cash out.
Speaker 2: So and Rai's right, and go ahead.
Speaker 4: Team where all these teachers and uh which believe me,
I have no control or I'm not mad about this part.
But the teachers and police officers and firemen or state
employees that bought or paid ends of Social Security before,
you know, they can't get that because it reduces.
Speaker 2: Yeah, and police and fire by the way, are local employees.
Speaker 3: They're they're municipal typically employees and sheriffs department or county
and teachers most of those are you know, through the
state retirement system. So but Ray, I app sh your call,
and I appreciate you being a part of the program,
and I appreciate your listening.
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Speaker 3: I do want to get back to one topic, actually
many topics. It's what I do. I love this attention
span so that's why I love talk radio. Last week
we were finishing the week up on the H one
B controversy. You had Elon Musk and the Veke Ramaswami
saying some things that really irked other people in magaworld,
and they were screaming and and it became quite ugly
and until Trump stepped in and said, hey, we're going
to reform the H one B program, and and and
and it kind of calmed the waters down a little bit.
Speaker 2: Now.
Speaker 3: Worth noting is that Vivek and Elon are in DOE,
the Department of Government Efficiency. They have nothing to do
with immigration or laws. They're not you know, it's not
even a cabinet thing. It's it's kind of a volunteer thing.
But American refugees a sub stack out there. I think
had a various dute observation. I'd like to share it
with you because it applies not just to this issue,
but as we move forward a lot of different issues.
The Democrats don't typically have this kind of problem because
they are a loosely held coalition. They don't care about
each other's issues. I've said that many times. You know,
whether it's whatever it is, some group of victims doesn't
care about the other group of victims that they just don't.
But on the right, you find that when they all
kind of get together and say, hey, this is where
we generally agree. Somebody can kind of light a match
and it's it's gasoline, and that's what happened last week,
so let's go to it. Sigmund Freud had a term
for it, the narcissism of small differences end quote.
Speaker 2: In this case, Wikipedia explains it well quote.
Speaker 3: The more a relationship or community shares commonalities, the more
likely the people in it are to engage in interpersonal
feuds and ridicule because of hypersensitivity to minor differences. I
think that, in large measure, is what led the left
to go so far left into the transgender issue and
the DEI and all that that was absolutely their undoing.
The right finds itself in this same kind of lockstep
issue on H one B visas. We all recognize the
pattern that manifest in various ways, from the bickering of
married couples to successful rock bands breaking up. You see
that if you're marriage, you know what I'm talking about.
Don't you argue about stupid stuff? You agree on the
big stuff you argue about stupid stuff? Did you leave
that there were there are only two people live in
the house.
Speaker 2: Of course it was me.
Speaker 3: Ah see, well okay, you got me.
Speaker 2: But then it's a fight.
Speaker 3: The most minor disputes exploded into major ones that no
one wanted in the first place, with sometimes disastrous results.
This fits the internal MAGA dispute over H one B
visas to the proverbial t The only ones who profit
from this blow up or whatever it is are the left,
and they're fading media allies desperate for something to latch
onto about MAGA and create dissension. Do we want to
give them that privilege at this point? Frankly, I think
it's stupid, especially for a disagreement that would likely work
itself out almost automatically and favorably for almost all concerned. Yes,
there will be complainers, but that's what Well, that's the world.
This uproar began when Donald Trump selected as his AI
advisor technologist Shriraim Krishman. Krishnan, a man who came here
on something called an L one visa intra company transfer
other words, with the company, transferred that visa in two
thousand and seven, work at Microsoft some ultra Maga loyalists
became really upset about this. Why not an American, they demanded,
ignoring that most of Trump's other picks or as ultra
maga and American as they are. It escalated as vike
Ramaswami and Elon Musk logged in in favor of H
one B, the temporary visa for highly trained people from abroad.
Bavek wrote something on X that was fairly obvious but
nonetheless sent his adversaries further up the wall that the
American educational system has been bad for so long that
we didn't have enough domestic talent to fit all the
necessary tech roles. Now think about that one for a men,
we'll stop the column you have. If you're out there
and you're on the right, you don't believe the educational
system is doing its best at serving the young people
of this nation for the past few decades. You don't
so when Vivek says that he's saying the truth and
one thing that everybody agrees with on the right, back
to the column. Beyond that, it has been alleged that
our educational system is too slow for the pace of
tech students finally learning what they need to know in
graduate school when young people in other countries are already
utilizing the latest, ever changing tech developments as teenagers. I
would agree with that the host right now, I would agree.
I'd say, when they're teaching technical writing in Ireland, and
when they're teaching all of these advanced tech things in
schools in K twelve, why can't we We're so stuck
on DEI and all this other stuff that we're not
teaching these fundamental things.
Speaker 2: Back to the column.
Speaker 3: Also at play is that compared to the rest of
the world, we are a rich society. Inertia has set
in the fire, gone from the belly. Not everyone has
Trump's fight Fight fight though. We may be learning, but
young people in poor nations already have a deep need
to excel due to their conditions. Witness how in tennis
great players are coming from places like Belarus and Serbia.
We need the H one B to bring the best
here to be able to compete. The national security implications
are obvious. Finally, it is immigrants, legal immigrants who have
built much of this country. We should be celebrating this.
It's real diversity rather than the fake left wing kind.
That's the argument in favor, What about those against? The
H one B has been misused by a number. We
don't know exactly how many, but we should in order
to clerk at the likes of seven elevens rather than
perform complex scientific task for which domestic personnel aren't available. Further,
companies have been using it as a source of cheap labor.
Speaker 2: I have, however, heard.
Speaker 3: This last contradicted by my own daughter, who works in
hiring for a major tech company that will be nameless
for family protection. I guarantee you would recognize it. Her
job is to recommend H one B candidates from across
the globe. She assures me. This is the columnist, by
the way, not me. She asserves me her company saves
no money from this. The ancillary costs her high and
only does it after exhausting domestic possibilities. In other words,
they're looking for the best and brightest here. They can't
find them that to go through this exhaustive process overseas,
So while they may save it in the salary, they
still have to spend the money to recruit. The person
writing all that down is convinced me, the author, this
is indeed nothing but a blow up of the most
minor sort that has been taken up by the media
ad nauseam into recent days, especially so since the room
for companies compromise here could not be clear. Toughen up
the rules for H one B. They may actually be there.
In that case, observe them, make sure it isn't a
form of discount labor, and continue the program with more
stringent guidelines. A Serbian named Nikola Tesla immigrated to the
United States in eighteen eighty four to convince Edison his
alternating current AC electrical generators were more efficient than Edison's
DC systems. Edison demurred, and this ignited the war. The
currents rest is history. In another moment from history, an
immigrant from South Africa who became a US citizen in
two thousand and two invented an autumnile named after Tesla
that has become the first efficient self driving car. The
man whom we all know iss Elon Musk suggested a
compromise not all that different from and what was just
written about. He wrote this on X easily fixed by
raising the minimum salaries significantly and adding a yearly cost
for maintaining the H one B.
Speaker 2: Indeed, is everybody happy?
Speaker 3: That is probably how this all would have ended up
anyway behind the scenes without the public bickering.
Speaker 2: That's why I call it a fake controversy.
Speaker 3: Now let's stop feeding the reactionary left and get back
to building the flip in future. So I thought that
was an astute written piece. I think I wrote something
more sucinctly where I said perspective. Here's a perspective from
me that when I was looking at all this, and
I thought, what's the most succinct thing I could say
about all this that doesn't ignite the fury of people
that I've come to know and love over the past
three decades.
Speaker 2: I said, it's.
Speaker 3: Impossible to assert the premissy of the current American work
ethic as superior to some aspects of other cultures while
also asserting that public education has been in decline for
thirty plus years. We clearly have a cultural work educational challenge.
I absolutely believe that. To my core, I think that
we have become and I would say there's something that
Alexander and and I don't.
Speaker 2: I hate to go back to this, but I will.
Speaker 3: And it was about society and and where we are
and and I think that that we need to be
reminded of it a little bit. It is that that
we we the world's great civilizations, and I'm going to
go through this a little bit. Always kind of goes
through a sequence. It goes from bondage to spiritual faith.
It goes from spiritual faith to great courage, goes from
courage to liberty, from liberty to abundance, from abundance to selfishness,
from selfishness to complacency, from complacency to apathy, from apathy
to dependence, and from dependence back into bondage. It's a
cyclical thing that humans have done for thousands of years.
And what he what the quote went on to say
was that the typical, you know, kind of free loving
society lasts for about two hundred years as.
Speaker 2: It goes through that cycle.
Speaker 3: And I would say that as we look across countries
on this planet today, there are many of those countries
out there that are at the bondage to spiritual faith.
They're trying to find that path forward. There are many
that are taking great courage. You see this as countries
push from more freedoms for more reforms, you see that
you also have those that have gone from courage to
liberty that have become more free. You look at Argentina,
for instance, that's becoming it's from courage to liberty, and
they're working from liberty to abundance. Our country has gone
through all of those things, and I think we've we're
kind of various parts of our society. Part of it
is at the abundance to selfishness. We've seen that part
of our country is also at selfishness to complacency. I
think other parts of our society is apathetic, that doesn't
seem to care. And then many have gone from apathy
to dependence. I mentioned these A lot of these federal
programs have made us very dependent and that creates its
own kind of bondage. And so our country isn't until
we can find a way to break that cycle. Other
countries are finding a way. They're hungrier, they're they're they're
they're going to be more assertive, they're going to try
to be stronger. And unless America can find its footing
again and remind itself about how it became the greatest
nation on the planet Earth, it's going to be losing ground.
We see that with China, we see that with some
of the Asian countries. We see this with You know,
even countries, small countries like Ireland I mentioned earlier, they're hungry.
They're hungry for success, they're hungry for freedom. Even Argentina,
they're hungry for these things that we take for granted.
We're kind of kind of like.
Speaker 2: Yeah, this is easy for us.
Speaker 3: And so then we get indignant when we find people
from other countries taking some of these jobs, and we
get very indignant about that, and we get angry about it.
Speaker 2: And rather than getting angry.
Speaker 3: What we should do is say, hey, why why are
these people from India so hungry to be successful? Why
aren't our people it's hungry for that. And again you
stund like a sales cam basting of America. I'm not
There are a lot of hungry Americans out there. This
doesn't apply to all, but it is a part of
our society. You can't sit here and say our education
has been declined for thirty years and think there's not
repercussions and consequences from that. There are a lot of them,
and we're seeing it play out now. So I think
most of that's been put to bed, but there'll be
another two or three eruptions before Trump gets inaugurated.
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Speaker 2: I do want to get to so much more. You know.
Speaker 3: Luckily I've got a few more days to do it,
but I'm going to get to some of it today.
And this is from the rabbit Hole, one of my
favorite feeds out there in the world of X. There
are If I were to ask you how many pages
are there in the federal tax code, it wouldn't be
You wouldn't be off to guess a lot, and you're
not going to say one hundred pages. Nobody out there
is going to say one thousand or ten thousand pages.
Speaker 2: But it has grown.
Speaker 3: In nineteen thirteen, the federal tax code was four hundred
pages long, which was a lot, and by nineteen thirty nine,
so over the next twenty six years it only grew
by one hundred and four pages. Between nineteen thirty nine
and nineteen forty five they added about eight thousand pages,
and from nineteen forty five till about nineteen eighty four,
Reagan's first term, they went from eight thousand, two hundred
to twenty six thousand, three hundred pages, and between ninety
five I've seen between eighty four and two thousand and
five it went from twenty six thousand pages to sixty
one thousand pages, and now it stands over seventy three thousand,
almost seventy four thousand pages long. Now here's the problem
with this. There is no way that you average US citizen.
Now most of you don't have to deal with a
lot of you.
Speaker 2: If you just get a W.
Speaker 3: Two and then you have your deductions, it's pretty simple.
But there's no way it should be seventy three thousand
pages long. We've made it too complicated. The tax code
should be understandable by anybody who wants to fill out
their own taxes. It's amazing that the government has created
a situation that requires an entirely, an entire spring sprung,
brand new industry that just helps you do your taxes
every year that sets up in walmarts and malls and
everywhere else and online that because it's so complicated.
Speaker 2: You have to fill out all that. And then because it's.
Speaker 3: So complicated, all of those groups will say, hey, we're
going to provide you audit defense. So they scare the
heck out of you, say wait, wait, wait, what do
you mean audit defense because, well, the tax code is complicated.
Even we the experts on this might have gotten something wrong,
or something you gave us may not have been one
hundred percent accurate. So if you get audited, which you
probably won't, but if you do, we're going to stand
by you through it. Now, that doesn't mean that's not
going to ruin your life for years going through an audit.
It just means that it's complicated and it shouldn't be.
And then when you do go through that, it robs
you of your ability to be a productive US citizen
because it takes off I remember visiting a friend I
was going. I was in transit to New Zealand and back,
and it was visiting him in a Los Angeles area
and it went into one room and I thought, this
is a really lovely guest room. And it wasn't a
guest room. It would have been a guest room, except
he was in the middle of an audit of his business.
He was in the real estate business out there, and
the audit was unbelievable. He must have had sixty boxes
of documents that were just sitting in this what would
have been a lovely bedroom, and this had been just
crushing him day and night.
Speaker 2: It had been consuming.
Speaker 3: So he had to run his business, He had to
kind of live his life and deal with the audit.
Speaker 2: And that was it.
Speaker 3: He just just the accumulation and printing and and and coalescing,
and it.
Speaker 2: Took it took him three years.
Speaker 3: Ultimately, there was no nothing significant that came of it
except it occupied and took away three It imprisoned him
economically for three years. Because the tax code is that onerous,
it is that complicated, It is not that simple. So
here's hoping as they're unplugging things in the swamp that
they will get to the tax code and find a
way to simplify that absurd tax code.
Speaker 2: It needs to be.
Speaker 3: We need to find a way to make compliance a
lot easier.
Speaker 2: We need to find a way to do those kind
of things.
Speaker 3: I was, I mean, I even had a question, and
I consider myself fairly well versed on this, and it
was about capital gains and if you have capital gains,
do you know you have to pay estimated taxes on
that if they're long term not short term, And apparently
you don't, but you could depends on who you talk
to at the IRS and who you talk to in
the tax world.
Speaker 4: You can.
Speaker 3: If you know you're going to have long term gains,
then do you pay estimated taxes on it? And if so,
how much, especially if it happened later in the year, earlier.
Speaker 2: In the year.
Speaker 3: That's the kind of and that's just that's a relatively
simple thing. When you have a death in your family
and you have to file their final tax return, and
it's and it's not fun. I promise you that when
someone dies in February, you have to My parents both did,
and you have to fill out the tax return for that.
So they've passed, and you have to fill out the
tax return for the previous year where they lived all
twelve months. But you also the following year have to
file a tax return for them for the two months
or month and a half that they may have lived
in that year.
Speaker 2: It is absurd.
Speaker 3: You should be able to tie things up and be done,
but you can't, because again, the IRS is not your friend.
Speaker 2: The I R. S is is heartless aspect of government.
Speaker 3: And it's funny that people want to ascribe all these
heartfelt sentiments to people. I mean, to government, and these
agencies help.
Speaker 2: People, they help well. The IRS is an agency. It's
not there to help people.
Speaker 3: It's really not.
Speaker 2: It's there to.
Speaker 3: Collect it's the world's largest tax collection agency. Now, as
we head to the top of the hour, I usually
reserve this part of the show to talk about scientific stuff,
stuff maybe you didn't know about or y hatdn't thought about,
because I started the show saying we're kind of approaching
that there's I wish I could remember the phrase right now,
but I'm not.
Speaker 2: I wasn't reading my sci fi stuff in the break.
Speaker 3: That technology kind of doubles inability at a certain point
in time, and the shorter that period of time takes place,
meaning that if it took sixty years, I mean it
took several hundred years from basically the Dark Ages to
the eighteen hundreds to double. And then it took, you know,
maybe forty years where all of a sudden we had
flight in the early nineteen h from flight to where
we landed on the Moon, it doubled a time or two,
and then it started becoming about every four or five
seven years. And now that technological ability is leap frogging
much quicker. In other words, the time span it takes
and each successive leaf is shorter I can't remember what
there's a name for that. And it doesn't mean that
it just takes place with the Internet or at Moore's law.
Thank you, all these people just chiming in, all these
smart people paying attention. So it's called Moore's law. And
when you see it in sci fi, if you.
Speaker 2: Read sci fi, you're very well versed in this happening
and stuff.
Speaker 3: But we see this happening, and it doesn't just mean
that your cell phone gets better, faster, stronger. It doesn't
just mean the Internet is more accessible or that you
can talk to your Alexa device more rapidly. It means
that it's taking place in all avenues at once.
Speaker 2: I mean, you see this with investing.
Speaker 3: You see that, you saw it with bitcoin, the rise
of digital currency. You also are seeing it in medical tech.
Speaker 2: And so I all back to another sci Fi.
Speaker 3: If you remember the Star Trek, you know doctor McCoy
had the little spinny device where you could.
Speaker 2: Just basically wave it on you and give a diagnosis.
Speaker 3: As much as that may seem, you know, like a
weird sixties thing, it's not far from where we are reality.
I mean that you know when you right now you
can go to a Sam's or a costco and you
can take your cart and if you've pre scanned it,
you can kind of as you're pushing it through the gates,
it scans your whole cart and they can look at
you and say, yeah, you're good. They don't have to
check your cart because it's done that. You're not having
to put it on a conveyor belt and put it
through a special machine.
Speaker 2: It's just doing that.
Speaker 3: And so we have this happening in medical tech.
Speaker 2: Oh my god, Steve, really the tricorder.
Speaker 3: Yes, it's the truck car. And if you look at
hospital beds next time you're visiting a hospital with seeing
someone look up behind them, it looks just like the
Star Trek beds with all of the monitoring devices right
behind you.
Speaker 2: It's very Star Trek yet.
Speaker 3: So yes, I appreciate that they shifre my Trickian way
of looking at things.
Speaker 2: So thank you very much for that.
Speaker 3: But with technology, with medical technology, you're not far from
being able to lie on that table and it do
that full diagnosis. It's medical technology can help detect diabetes,
diagnose cancer, make highly accurate predictions, and radiology identify the
presence of TV so much more it can reduce human error.
Some research even suggest that AI powered applications in healthcare
could improve patient outcomes by thirty to forty percent while
reducing treatment costs back to fifty percent.
Speaker 2: I was just doubted.
Speaker 3: My mother had an insulin device that monitor to twenty
four to seven, and it showed up on my sister's
phone two hundred miles away, so my sister could say, hey, Mom's.
Speaker 2: Sugar is a little high or lower whatever.
Speaker 3: And now you got the core a ring and you're
looking if you have an Apple watch or and not
just Apple, but the others. They're monitoring a lot of
your health, your your heart rate, you can do you know,
EKGs on yourself, and more and more you're going to
be able to diagnose, maybe even self diagnosed using tech
at your home. I don't know what point we'll get
to the diagnosing of blood and doing cbcs with differentials
at home, but I can see it happening. The term
an increase in medical technology has accelerated the problem of
what they call de skilling. That's the issue at hand
here is that technology is racing ahead and doctors heretofore
relied on a lot of interaction with the patient, and
so doctors overtime, many of them and still do, by
the way, have a lot of inherent wisdom with respect
to things they've seen.
Speaker 2: I love to read, you know, the Emperor Maaladies.
Speaker 3: I've read several books on cancer research, and that skill
set allows doctors to cut through saying kind, I know
what this is or where not to look, or this
is a false lead. And if you ever watch the
show House, it was a lot of that. They had
a really cracked team that the premise was they're trying
to figure out how to solve a medical mystery, and
they're using powers of deduction, they're using their powers of research,
They're using a lot of different things at once. But
when technology starts doing that, doctors become de skilled, which
means a reduction in the level of skill required to
complete a task. We saw it because some or all
of it have been automated d skilling. You see it
in almost every automation process where the automation process does
a lot of people don't know how to do things,
and when it breaks it out, how do you fix that?
I don't know, got to call the guy that fixes
a machine because I don't know what it's doing. Historically,
the term de skilling has been used in the context
of automation. While workers on assembly lines in the past
were responsible for tasks that required manual skills by constructing
small parts and stuff and repairs machineries change that. Within
the context of medicine, d skilling refers to the decrease
and a physician's ability to derive information on the basis
of detectable signs and symptoms alone without using technological aids.
Speaker 2: But patient care does require kind of a balance of this. Now.
I saw this a few probably two or three years
ago in part. One of the other fun jobs.
Speaker 3: That I've been able to be a part of is
the medical travel stuff. When I was visiting a kind
of breakthrough medical group in North Carolina that was putting together.
Was it a trailer was kind of like a diagnosis
in a box. It had a box with all of
these this technology in it, and you could put it
in a factory or in a place, and it was
a remote doctor's office and all the tech in it.
A patient could go in, they're interfacing with a doctor.
It's got all these gadgets in it, and it could
help diagnose right there on the spot. A given patient
in this doc in a box kind of way of
looking at things, and that technology is only going.
Speaker 2: To get better.
Speaker 3: This was two or three years ago, so I would
suspect it's gotten much better. So hospitals in the US
lean more on technology than a lot of places, and
funding structures incentivize that use. But is it possible that
US practitioners should be taking notes from doctors in more
underresourced areas who've made had to do more with less.
So I don't know where that line gets crossed, but
at a certain point tech Moore's law as the producers
aptly threw into the mix here that when does that
tech become so odd? I mean, in a way it
could be golden because think about trying to get appointments
with doctors and get diagnosis on things, and how many
times you've had to sit and wait when you know
there's a billion more cells that are replicating in your
body and hurting you while you wait.
Speaker 2: For there to be time to look at you.
Speaker 3: And technology and theory could expedite this to the point
that it makes a big difference in your diagnosis and
treatment and moving forward. The way someone this is how
they finish, it's a very long article, but it's from
the Nation dot com. The way someone looks at you,
the intonation and their voice, and the many other very
human clues that patients convey are exactly why technology can
never replace physician intuition. And you know, while the United
States often pushes a test forward approach to medicine, it's
those sorts of creative solutions alongside more traditional medical interventions
that end up giving the patients.
Speaker 2: The care they need.
Speaker 3: We'll see how that all works out, but the truth
of the matter is the technology is going to be
able to identify potential cancers much much earlier than right
now we can. It's going to be able to potentially,
not potentially, but it is going to look at genetic
predispositions long before and maybe even treat.
Speaker 2: Those genetic predispositions.
Speaker 3: And I believe that whoever gets to the home diagnosis
angle on things is going to be you know, the
next Apple or Elon Musk or whatever, because I think
that home medical care that's patient driven technology assisted with
the power of smart physicians at the other end, it's
going to expedite and not only that, I think it's
going to be able to expedite treatments as well. We're
a long way from it, but again, with the application
of Moore's law, it could become far more applicable because
if that technology keeps doubling and tripling every couple of years,
there's no telling where we can go. I'm amazed at
what your watch can do for you.
Speaker 2: Do you get health alerts on your watch? Maybe I
should pay attention to those.
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