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Please consider it a donation 33 00:01:29,519 --> 00:01:31,840 to the City of Hope clt dot org today, that 34 00:01:31,959 --> 00:01:35,799 City of Hope clt dot org today. Thank you very 35 00:01:35,879 --> 00:01:39,799 much and appreciate all of the generosity of. 36 00:01:39,719 --> 00:01:40,480 Speaker 2: This viewing area. 37 00:01:40,519 --> 00:01:44,760 Speaker 3: Would it be amazing if our government only funded Now 38 00:01:44,840 --> 00:01:46,400 this is going to sound so heartless here at the 39 00:01:46,480 --> 00:01:48,280 end of the year that I don't mean for it too. 40 00:01:48,359 --> 00:01:49,760 And I'm not going to belabor this one or get 41 00:01:49,760 --> 00:01:52,959 into it in great detail. But if the government was 42 00:01:53,000 --> 00:01:59,439 only funding the actual outline of what the Constitution told 43 00:01:59,480 --> 00:02:03,079 it to, if we just got rid of all the 44 00:02:03,159 --> 00:02:05,560 superflace fortn aid, imagine foreign Aid's gone. 45 00:02:05,599 --> 00:02:07,159 Speaker 2: I mean, I happen to like fourn aid, but I 46 00:02:07,239 --> 00:02:08,240 think do we need it? 47 00:02:08,759 --> 00:02:11,680 Speaker 3: Because, by the way, foreign aid, if you like thirty 48 00:02:11,719 --> 00:02:13,879 countries that are in it and you don't like five, 49 00:02:14,039 --> 00:02:18,400 it's all lumped into one. So if you're funding Turkey 50 00:02:18,879 --> 00:02:22,479 and Israel and Rwanda and you don't like one of them, 51 00:02:22,719 --> 00:02:25,800 it's all the same. It's all one giant bill. All 52 00:02:25,840 --> 00:02:28,199 of those other government programs. And by the way, if 53 00:02:28,240 --> 00:02:32,199 we're being honest, have they really worked now social Security? 54 00:02:32,240 --> 00:02:35,960 Wouldn't it have been interesting if Social Security was a 55 00:02:36,120 --> 00:02:41,120 separate entity. What if the Social Security Administration was not 56 00:02:42,199 --> 00:02:46,319 government run but actually had some important it was a 57 00:02:46,400 --> 00:02:50,439 national retirement service that everybody could invest in. The returns 58 00:02:50,439 --> 00:02:53,639 would be greater, it wouldn't be under assault, it would 59 00:02:53,639 --> 00:02:57,000 not be as prone to partisan hackery. It wouldn't be 60 00:02:57,199 --> 00:03:00,280 and you would have more money in all likelihood, just 61 00:03:01,000 --> 00:03:03,800 even if it was just kind of broadly broadly invested 62 00:03:03,879 --> 00:03:05,960 far better. Would actually have performance, which is not what 63 00:03:06,039 --> 00:03:09,680 you have now. You don't have performance. Imagine if Medicaid Medicare, 64 00:03:10,759 --> 00:03:13,000 and i'm gonna say this in a way that's gonna 65 00:03:13,039 --> 00:03:18,319 sound horrible, if it didn't exist, would our medical care 66 00:03:18,439 --> 00:03:20,280 be the way it is now. Imagine I mean if 67 00:03:20,280 --> 00:03:21,759 we came back from World War Two and instead of 68 00:03:21,800 --> 00:03:24,520 having medical insurance as a way to compete and get workers, 69 00:03:24,520 --> 00:03:27,000 we had I've said this before, food insurance or something else. 70 00:03:28,080 --> 00:03:31,360 I think medicine would have evolved much in a much 71 00:03:31,400 --> 00:03:35,280 more productive, efficient manner if government had never gotten into it. 72 00:03:36,240 --> 00:03:38,560 I think that everything that government. And then if you 73 00:03:38,560 --> 00:03:41,199 want a good example of this, look at the food pyramid. 74 00:03:42,159 --> 00:03:45,000 Look at what should be the simplicity of a food pyramid, 75 00:03:45,439 --> 00:03:48,360 and the government screwed it up because they were wrong 76 00:03:48,560 --> 00:03:51,439 on so many counts. Moving back, because there were so 77 00:03:51,439 --> 00:03:54,319 many political interests in various aspects of the food pyramid 78 00:03:54,319 --> 00:03:57,039 that was just wrong. I mean, eggs were under assault 79 00:03:57,039 --> 00:04:00,080 for decades and they're fine, they're wonderful, good for Oh 80 00:04:01,960 --> 00:04:05,199 so they can't even get eggs right. Eggs the most 81 00:04:05,240 --> 00:04:08,639 primitive foods we eat. They can't even get that right. 82 00:04:08,759 --> 00:04:10,759 And you think they can get the complexity of everything 83 00:04:10,759 --> 00:04:12,680 else in our lives. So if they were just doing 84 00:04:12,840 --> 00:04:17,040 national defense, which is killed people break things, even a 85 00:04:17,040 --> 00:04:20,720 caveman couldn't understand that, and they were doing public safety 86 00:04:21,439 --> 00:04:25,319 and maybe regulating interstate commerce in some way, that's about it. 87 00:04:25,360 --> 00:04:27,399 I mean, I'm not too much more needed to be done. 88 00:04:27,399 --> 00:04:30,480 We don't need a federal department of education. The states 89 00:04:30,480 --> 00:04:32,920 can handle environment, the states can handle education. The states 90 00:04:32,959 --> 00:04:34,800 can handle most of the things that the federal government's 91 00:04:34,800 --> 00:04:37,040 involved in. But just imagine if you would, we wouldn't 92 00:04:37,040 --> 00:04:40,079 be all we've done. We've leveraged our country thirty six 93 00:04:40,160 --> 00:04:42,600 trillion dollars, and let did it really make What made 94 00:04:42,639 --> 00:04:47,000 us better was the internet, access to it, access to 95 00:04:47,000 --> 00:04:50,120 information of the internal combustion engine. 96 00:04:50,639 --> 00:04:52,920 Speaker 2: I mean, maybe they do highways. Maybe they could do highways, 97 00:04:52,920 --> 00:04:53,600 that would be a good one. 98 00:04:53,639 --> 00:04:57,879 Speaker 3: That's interstate commerce, right, So there's many things that they 99 00:04:57,920 --> 00:05:00,560 really didn't do a lot to make it better, more efficient. 100 00:05:00,680 --> 00:05:02,879 I don't think you could say that Lyndon Johnson's Great 101 00:05:02,920 --> 00:05:08,759 Society had great achievements. It created massive programs that didn't 102 00:05:08,800 --> 00:05:11,920 solve any of the things it was set out to do. 103 00:05:12,079 --> 00:05:16,439 Because the delusion of social engineering, it's an absolute delusion. 104 00:05:16,480 --> 00:05:18,199 Speaker 2: It doesn't work. It just makes people dependent. 105 00:05:19,000 --> 00:05:21,600 Speaker 3: But a last I digress, and we may talk a 106 00:05:21,600 --> 00:05:23,720 little bit more about this. Right now, we have a caller, Ray, 107 00:05:23,800 --> 00:05:24,600 Welcome to the show. 108 00:05:24,800 --> 00:05:25,639 Speaker 2: How the heck are. 109 00:05:25,519 --> 00:05:28,680 Speaker 4: You I'm doing good. Hi about yourself. 110 00:05:29,519 --> 00:05:30,600 Speaker 2: I am wonderful. 111 00:05:33,480 --> 00:05:36,959 Speaker 4: My question is, uh, well, my comments I should say 112 00:05:37,920 --> 00:05:42,079 is a most security was made for when you retire. 113 00:05:43,600 --> 00:05:44,560 That's what the money is for. 114 00:05:44,759 --> 00:05:48,560 Speaker 3: Right. Well, you weren't supposed to live that long and 115 00:05:48,639 --> 00:05:50,600 collect off of it, so they never changed the age 116 00:05:50,600 --> 00:05:52,480 you were supposed to kind of if you live that long, 117 00:05:52,519 --> 00:05:56,600 there was supposed to be a little something for you. Yeah, right, well, 118 00:05:56,639 --> 00:05:58,680 you aren't supposed to live that long and collect off 119 00:05:58,720 --> 00:06:01,560 of it, so they never changed the kind of live 120 00:06:01,639 --> 00:06:02,040 that long. 121 00:06:02,120 --> 00:06:05,040 Speaker 2: I think your radio ray is on the background, but 122 00:06:05,079 --> 00:06:08,800 go ahead, Oh your okay? 123 00:06:08,959 --> 00:06:12,120 Speaker 4: Right? Thanks, okay, I am living this long. I've been 124 00:06:12,199 --> 00:06:17,839 putting him for forty five years, right, So happened thirty 125 00:06:18,000 --> 00:06:21,560 thirty or twenty thirty five? It's we're gonna run out 126 00:06:21,600 --> 00:06:25,360 of money, you know why because it was made for 127 00:06:25,560 --> 00:06:29,360 us to retire on and they put all these exclusions 128 00:06:29,399 --> 00:06:34,480 on and nothing against disabilities or anything like that. But 129 00:06:34,720 --> 00:06:37,199 that's not what it was meant for or your kids. 130 00:06:37,279 --> 00:06:39,839 It wasn't meant not meant for your kids. If you 131 00:06:40,040 --> 00:06:45,360 died and all guess what he died, Oh, you get 132 00:06:45,360 --> 00:06:48,439 the money. That's that's really one of the reasons it's 133 00:06:48,519 --> 00:06:53,000 running out. And the third one is all these immigrants. No, 134 00:06:53,399 --> 00:06:58,920 they didn't pay in the strap and so now oh 135 00:06:58,959 --> 00:07:01,879 we've got we're given all money. Join well. 136 00:07:01,959 --> 00:07:05,560 Speaker 3: Ray. Part of it is that the money obligate that 137 00:07:05,600 --> 00:07:07,800 you put into it. And I hate to say this, 138 00:07:07,879 --> 00:07:09,879 it's going to sound even worse than what you're saying. 139 00:07:09,920 --> 00:07:11,920 And a lot of what you said it's true is 140 00:07:11,959 --> 00:07:14,519 it's a massive pyramid scheme. Is that the money you 141 00:07:14,560 --> 00:07:16,600 put in it was used to pay people that retired 142 00:07:16,639 --> 00:07:19,160 long ago, and now the money that you're collecting is 143 00:07:19,199 --> 00:07:21,879 from workers that are paying into it today. And so 144 00:07:22,079 --> 00:07:24,240 the left would say, hey, we need all these illegals 145 00:07:24,240 --> 00:07:26,120 to be paying into Social Security. 146 00:07:25,639 --> 00:07:26,439 Speaker 2: To keep it solvent. 147 00:07:26,680 --> 00:07:28,759 Speaker 3: Instead of trying to fix it, they just want to 148 00:07:29,279 --> 00:07:32,120 just kind of pass the buck one down. And you 149 00:07:32,160 --> 00:07:35,639 weren't allowed to have any determination of where that money went. 150 00:07:36,079 --> 00:07:38,279 And you'll never get back out of it. You worked 151 00:07:38,319 --> 00:07:40,399 for forty five years. There's no way in hell you 152 00:07:40,439 --> 00:07:41,839 get all the money out of it that you put 153 00:07:41,839 --> 00:07:42,240 into it. 154 00:07:42,600 --> 00:07:45,120 Speaker 2: There's no way. And you can't confer it if you. 155 00:07:45,079 --> 00:07:46,720 Speaker 3: Had in a mutual fund, if you had all that 156 00:07:46,720 --> 00:07:48,000 in a mutual fund, you could give it to your 157 00:07:48,079 --> 00:07:50,360 kids if you died, but you can't. 158 00:07:50,680 --> 00:07:53,879 Speaker 4: So so how come we can't take you know, the 159 00:07:54,000 --> 00:07:56,879 main thing is for one of the things is we 160 00:07:57,120 --> 00:08:00,079 have to put in those security money, right. 161 00:08:00,920 --> 00:08:02,759 Speaker 3: Yeah, and the employer has to match it. 162 00:08:02,800 --> 00:08:04,000 Speaker 2: So it's about fifteen percent. 163 00:08:04,439 --> 00:08:07,560 Speaker 4: So why can't Why can't we put that money where 164 00:08:07,680 --> 00:08:08,360 you know what's going to. 165 00:08:08,399 --> 00:08:12,120 Speaker 3: Go for it? You would think you would have some control. 166 00:08:12,279 --> 00:08:14,800 You have no control over it. It's an annuity that 167 00:08:14,839 --> 00:08:16,240 you never get the cash out. 168 00:08:16,480 --> 00:08:20,279 Speaker 2: So and Rai's right, and go ahead. 169 00:08:20,120 --> 00:08:25,800 Speaker 4: Team where all these teachers and uh which believe me, 170 00:08:25,959 --> 00:08:30,360 I have no control or I'm not mad about this part. 171 00:08:30,839 --> 00:08:36,120 But the teachers and police officers and firemen or state 172 00:08:36,200 --> 00:08:41,440 employees that bought or paid ends of Social Security before, 173 00:08:42,039 --> 00:08:47,320 you know, they can't get that because it reduces. 174 00:08:47,799 --> 00:08:50,039 Speaker 2: Yeah, and police and fire by the way, are local employees. 175 00:08:50,080 --> 00:08:53,799 Speaker 3: They're they're municipal typically employees and sheriffs department or county 176 00:08:53,919 --> 00:08:57,120 and teachers most of those are you know, through the 177 00:08:57,120 --> 00:09:00,600 state retirement system. So but Ray, I app sh your call, 178 00:09:00,600 --> 00:09:01,919 and I appreciate you being a part of the program, 179 00:09:01,960 --> 00:09:02,799 and I appreciate your listening. 180 00:09:02,840 --> 00:09:04,559 Speaker 2: Okay, you have a happy New Year. 181 00:09:04,960 --> 00:09:07,120 Speaker 1: For over a month now, I have been reminding you 182 00:09:07,159 --> 00:09:10,799 to preserve your precious photos and slides, films, and tapes 183 00:09:10,799 --> 00:09:14,200 with Creative Video based in mint Hill. These family heirlooms 184 00:09:14,240 --> 00:09:18,120 hold priceless stories moments from years past that are irreplaceable. 185 00:09:18,360 --> 00:09:21,480 If you've thought about saving these memories before they fade away, 186 00:09:21,559 --> 00:09:25,159 you are not alone. 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You had Elon Musk and the Veke Ramaswami 204 00:10:20,879 --> 00:10:23,919 saying some things that really irked other people in magaworld, 205 00:10:23,960 --> 00:10:26,720 and they were screaming and and it became quite ugly 206 00:10:26,759 --> 00:10:28,679 and until Trump stepped in and said, hey, we're going 207 00:10:28,720 --> 00:10:31,799 to reform the H one B program, and and and 208 00:10:31,799 --> 00:10:34,399 and it kind of calmed the waters down a little bit. 209 00:10:34,519 --> 00:10:34,679 Speaker 2: Now. 210 00:10:35,000 --> 00:10:38,960 Speaker 3: Worth noting is that Vivek and Elon are in DOE, 211 00:10:39,000 --> 00:10:40,879 the Department of Government Efficiency. They have nothing to do 212 00:10:40,919 --> 00:10:43,360 with immigration or laws. They're not you know, it's not 213 00:10:43,399 --> 00:10:46,279 even a cabinet thing. It's it's kind of a volunteer thing. 214 00:10:46,840 --> 00:10:51,000 But American refugees a sub stack out there. I think 215 00:10:51,080 --> 00:10:53,519 had a various dute observation. I'd like to share it 216 00:10:53,559 --> 00:10:57,120 with you because it applies not just to this issue, 217 00:10:57,399 --> 00:10:59,159 but as we move forward a lot of different issues. 218 00:10:59,200 --> 00:11:02,759 The Democrats don't typically have this kind of problem because 219 00:11:02,759 --> 00:11:04,879 they are a loosely held coalition. They don't care about 220 00:11:04,879 --> 00:11:07,279 each other's issues. I've said that many times. You know, 221 00:11:07,279 --> 00:11:10,679 whether it's whatever it is, some group of victims doesn't 222 00:11:10,679 --> 00:11:13,039 care about the other group of victims that they just don't. 223 00:11:13,600 --> 00:11:16,039 But on the right, you find that when they all 224 00:11:16,120 --> 00:11:18,200 kind of get together and say, hey, this is where 225 00:11:18,240 --> 00:11:21,720 we generally agree. Somebody can kind of light a match 226 00:11:21,759 --> 00:11:25,159 and it's it's gasoline, and that's what happened last week, 227 00:11:25,200 --> 00:11:27,399 so let's go to it. Sigmund Freud had a term 228 00:11:27,480 --> 00:11:31,279 for it, the narcissism of small differences end quote. 229 00:11:31,720 --> 00:11:35,200 Speaker 2: In this case, Wikipedia explains it well quote. 230 00:11:35,240 --> 00:11:40,000 Speaker 3: The more a relationship or community shares commonalities, the more 231 00:11:40,159 --> 00:11:42,759 likely the people in it are to engage in interpersonal 232 00:11:42,799 --> 00:11:48,039 feuds and ridicule because of hypersensitivity to minor differences. I 233 00:11:48,080 --> 00:11:50,320 think that, in large measure, is what led the left 234 00:11:50,320 --> 00:11:54,120 to go so far left into the transgender issue and 235 00:11:54,159 --> 00:11:57,679 the DEI and all that that was absolutely their undoing. 236 00:11:57,840 --> 00:12:02,559 The right finds itself in this same kind of lockstep 237 00:12:02,600 --> 00:12:06,840 issue on H one B visas. We all recognize the 238 00:12:06,840 --> 00:12:09,399 pattern that manifest in various ways, from the bickering of 239 00:12:09,480 --> 00:12:12,759 married couples to successful rock bands breaking up. You see 240 00:12:12,759 --> 00:12:14,360 that if you're marriage, you know what I'm talking about. 241 00:12:14,399 --> 00:12:16,639 Don't you argue about stupid stuff? You agree on the 242 00:12:16,639 --> 00:12:19,480 big stuff you argue about stupid stuff? Did you leave 243 00:12:19,480 --> 00:12:20,879 that there were there are only two people live in 244 00:12:20,960 --> 00:12:21,240 the house. 245 00:12:21,279 --> 00:12:21,919 Speaker 2: Of course it was me. 246 00:12:22,039 --> 00:12:23,919 Speaker 3: Ah see, well okay, you got me. 247 00:12:24,000 --> 00:12:24,759 Speaker 2: But then it's a fight. 248 00:12:26,200 --> 00:12:28,759 Speaker 3: The most minor disputes exploded into major ones that no 249 00:12:28,840 --> 00:12:31,919 one wanted in the first place, with sometimes disastrous results. 250 00:12:32,440 --> 00:12:35,080 This fits the internal MAGA dispute over H one B 251 00:12:35,240 --> 00:12:38,080 visas to the proverbial t The only ones who profit 252 00:12:38,279 --> 00:12:41,799 from this blow up or whatever it is are the left, 253 00:12:41,919 --> 00:12:45,200 and they're fading media allies desperate for something to latch 254 00:12:45,240 --> 00:12:48,519 onto about MAGA and create dissension. Do we want to 255 00:12:48,519 --> 00:12:50,639 give them that privilege at this point? Frankly, I think 256 00:12:50,639 --> 00:12:53,159 it's stupid, especially for a disagreement that would likely work 257 00:12:53,240 --> 00:12:58,000 itself out almost automatically and favorably for almost all concerned. Yes, 258 00:12:58,080 --> 00:13:00,960 there will be complainers, but that's what Well, that's the world. 259 00:13:01,759 --> 00:13:05,639 This uproar began when Donald Trump selected as his AI 260 00:13:05,720 --> 00:13:10,480 advisor technologist Shriraim Krishman. Krishnan, a man who came here 261 00:13:10,519 --> 00:13:14,279 on something called an L one visa intra company transfer 262 00:13:14,399 --> 00:13:16,919 other words, with the company, transferred that visa in two 263 00:13:16,960 --> 00:13:20,480 thousand and seven, work at Microsoft some ultra Maga loyalists 264 00:13:20,519 --> 00:13:23,919 became really upset about this. Why not an American, they demanded, 265 00:13:24,000 --> 00:13:26,799 ignoring that most of Trump's other picks or as ultra 266 00:13:26,879 --> 00:13:30,200 maga and American as they are. It escalated as vike 267 00:13:30,279 --> 00:13:32,960 Ramaswami and Elon Musk logged in in favor of H 268 00:13:33,000 --> 00:13:36,519 one B, the temporary visa for highly trained people from abroad. 269 00:13:37,159 --> 00:13:39,519 Bavek wrote something on X that was fairly obvious but 270 00:13:39,559 --> 00:13:42,799 nonetheless sent his adversaries further up the wall that the 271 00:13:42,799 --> 00:13:45,480 American educational system has been bad for so long that 272 00:13:45,519 --> 00:13:47,519 we didn't have enough domestic talent to fit all the 273 00:13:47,559 --> 00:13:49,919 necessary tech roles. Now think about that one for a men, 274 00:13:49,960 --> 00:13:53,240 we'll stop the column you have. If you're out there 275 00:13:53,440 --> 00:13:56,240 and you're on the right, you don't believe the educational 276 00:13:56,279 --> 00:13:59,039 system is doing its best at serving the young people 277 00:13:59,039 --> 00:14:01,120 of this nation for the past few decades. You don't 278 00:14:02,200 --> 00:14:05,679 so when Vivek says that he's saying the truth and 279 00:14:05,759 --> 00:14:08,879 one thing that everybody agrees with on the right, back 280 00:14:08,919 --> 00:14:10,919 to the column. Beyond that, it has been alleged that 281 00:14:10,960 --> 00:14:13,120 our educational system is too slow for the pace of 282 00:14:13,159 --> 00:14:15,279 tech students finally learning what they need to know in 283 00:14:15,320 --> 00:14:18,279 graduate school when young people in other countries are already 284 00:14:18,360 --> 00:14:21,919 utilizing the latest, ever changing tech developments as teenagers. I 285 00:14:21,919 --> 00:14:24,000 would agree with that the host right now, I would agree. 286 00:14:24,000 --> 00:14:27,519 I'd say, when they're teaching technical writing in Ireland, and 287 00:14:27,519 --> 00:14:30,399 when they're teaching all of these advanced tech things in 288 00:14:30,600 --> 00:14:35,080 schools in K twelve, why can't we We're so stuck 289 00:14:35,120 --> 00:14:37,279 on DEI and all this other stuff that we're not 290 00:14:37,440 --> 00:14:38,919 teaching these fundamental things. 291 00:14:39,360 --> 00:14:40,679 Speaker 2: Back to the column. 292 00:14:40,960 --> 00:14:42,519 Speaker 3: Also at play is that compared to the rest of 293 00:14:42,559 --> 00:14:45,200 the world, we are a rich society. Inertia has set 294 00:14:45,240 --> 00:14:48,679 in the fire, gone from the belly. Not everyone has 295 00:14:48,720 --> 00:14:52,039 Trump's fight Fight fight though. We may be learning, but 296 00:14:52,200 --> 00:14:56,240 young people in poor nations already have a deep need 297 00:14:56,279 --> 00:14:59,639 to excel due to their conditions. Witness how in tennis 298 00:14:59,679 --> 00:15:02,679 great players are coming from places like Belarus and Serbia. 299 00:15:02,919 --> 00:15:04,639 We need the H one B to bring the best 300 00:15:04,679 --> 00:15:07,159 here to be able to compete. The national security implications 301 00:15:07,200 --> 00:15:10,960 are obvious. Finally, it is immigrants, legal immigrants who have 302 00:15:11,000 --> 00:15:13,120 built much of this country. We should be celebrating this. 303 00:15:13,159 --> 00:15:16,120 It's real diversity rather than the fake left wing kind. 304 00:15:16,279 --> 00:15:18,919 That's the argument in favor, What about those against? The 305 00:15:19,080 --> 00:15:21,039 H one B has been misused by a number. We 306 00:15:21,080 --> 00:15:23,360 don't know exactly how many, but we should in order 307 00:15:23,399 --> 00:15:25,440 to clerk at the likes of seven elevens rather than 308 00:15:25,440 --> 00:15:30,240 perform complex scientific task for which domestic personnel aren't available. Further, 309 00:15:30,320 --> 00:15:32,799 companies have been using it as a source of cheap labor. 310 00:15:33,480 --> 00:15:34,559 Speaker 2: I have, however, heard. 311 00:15:34,480 --> 00:15:38,159 Speaker 3: This last contradicted by my own daughter, who works in 312 00:15:38,240 --> 00:15:40,759 hiring for a major tech company that will be nameless 313 00:15:40,759 --> 00:15:43,080 for family protection. I guarantee you would recognize it. Her 314 00:15:43,159 --> 00:15:45,879 job is to recommend H one B candidates from across 315 00:15:45,879 --> 00:15:48,200 the globe. She assures me. This is the columnist, by 316 00:15:48,240 --> 00:15:50,960 the way, not me. She asserves me her company saves 317 00:15:51,399 --> 00:15:53,960 no money from this. The ancillary costs her high and 318 00:15:54,000 --> 00:15:57,200 only does it after exhausting domestic possibilities. In other words, 319 00:15:57,240 --> 00:15:59,480 they're looking for the best and brightest here. They can't 320 00:15:59,480 --> 00:16:01,879 find them that to go through this exhaustive process overseas, 321 00:16:01,960 --> 00:16:03,639 So while they may save it in the salary, they 322 00:16:03,639 --> 00:16:05,720 still have to spend the money to recruit. The person 323 00:16:06,960 --> 00:16:09,440 writing all that down is convinced me, the author, this 324 00:16:09,600 --> 00:16:12,120 is indeed nothing but a blow up of the most 325 00:16:12,240 --> 00:16:14,360 minor sort that has been taken up by the media 326 00:16:14,360 --> 00:16:17,399 ad nauseam into recent days, especially so since the room 327 00:16:17,440 --> 00:16:20,799 for companies compromise here could not be clear. Toughen up 328 00:16:20,799 --> 00:16:23,559 the rules for H one B. They may actually be there. 329 00:16:23,600 --> 00:16:25,559 In that case, observe them, make sure it isn't a 330 00:16:25,559 --> 00:16:27,600 form of discount labor, and continue the program with more 331 00:16:27,639 --> 00:16:33,399 stringent guidelines. A Serbian named Nikola Tesla immigrated to the 332 00:16:33,480 --> 00:16:36,200 United States in eighteen eighty four to convince Edison his 333 00:16:36,320 --> 00:16:39,639 alternating current AC electrical generators were more efficient than Edison's 334 00:16:39,720 --> 00:16:43,759 DC systems. Edison demurred, and this ignited the war. The 335 00:16:43,799 --> 00:16:46,440 currents rest is history. In another moment from history, an 336 00:16:46,440 --> 00:16:48,799 immigrant from South Africa who became a US citizen in 337 00:16:48,840 --> 00:16:51,840 two thousand and two invented an autumnile named after Tesla 338 00:16:52,039 --> 00:16:55,440 that has become the first efficient self driving car. The 339 00:16:55,440 --> 00:16:57,799 man whom we all know iss Elon Musk suggested a 340 00:16:57,879 --> 00:17:00,480 compromise not all that different from and what was just 341 00:17:00,480 --> 00:17:02,799 written about. He wrote this on X easily fixed by 342 00:17:02,840 --> 00:17:05,640 raising the minimum salaries significantly and adding a yearly cost 343 00:17:05,680 --> 00:17:06,799 for maintaining the H one B. 344 00:17:07,400 --> 00:17:08,720 Speaker 2: Indeed, is everybody happy? 345 00:17:09,400 --> 00:17:11,400 Speaker 3: That is probably how this all would have ended up 346 00:17:11,400 --> 00:17:13,799 anyway behind the scenes without the public bickering. 347 00:17:14,400 --> 00:17:16,079 Speaker 2: That's why I call it a fake controversy. 348 00:17:16,119 --> 00:17:18,319 Speaker 3: Now let's stop feeding the reactionary left and get back 349 00:17:18,359 --> 00:17:21,160 to building the flip in future. So I thought that 350 00:17:21,200 --> 00:17:24,599 was an astute written piece. I think I wrote something 351 00:17:24,599 --> 00:17:28,039 more sucinctly where I said perspective. Here's a perspective from 352 00:17:28,079 --> 00:17:31,000 me that when I was looking at all this, and 353 00:17:31,079 --> 00:17:33,559 I thought, what's the most succinct thing I could say 354 00:17:33,599 --> 00:17:36,319 about all this that doesn't ignite the fury of people 355 00:17:37,039 --> 00:17:38,759 that I've come to know and love over the past 356 00:17:38,960 --> 00:17:39,720 three decades. 357 00:17:40,200 --> 00:17:40,839 Speaker 2: I said, it's. 358 00:17:40,680 --> 00:17:43,960 Speaker 3: Impossible to assert the premissy of the current American work 359 00:17:44,000 --> 00:17:47,319 ethic as superior to some aspects of other cultures while 360 00:17:47,400 --> 00:17:50,160 also asserting that public education has been in decline for 361 00:17:50,200 --> 00:17:54,400 thirty plus years. We clearly have a cultural work educational challenge. 362 00:17:54,880 --> 00:17:58,319 I absolutely believe that. To my core, I think that 363 00:17:58,359 --> 00:18:02,319 we have become and I would say there's something that 364 00:18:03,519 --> 00:18:05,640 Alexander and and I don't. 365 00:18:05,759 --> 00:18:10,000 Speaker 2: I hate to go back to this, but I will. 366 00:18:10,880 --> 00:18:15,200 Speaker 3: And it was about society and and where we are 367 00:18:15,279 --> 00:18:20,599 and and I think that that we need to be 368 00:18:20,640 --> 00:18:24,160 reminded of it a little bit. It is that that 369 00:18:24,200 --> 00:18:27,599 we we the world's great civilizations, and I'm going to 370 00:18:28,319 --> 00:18:31,279 go through this a little bit. Always kind of goes 371 00:18:31,359 --> 00:18:36,119 through a sequence. It goes from bondage to spiritual faith. 372 00:18:36,720 --> 00:18:39,559 It goes from spiritual faith to great courage, goes from 373 00:18:39,599 --> 00:18:45,079 courage to liberty, from liberty to abundance, from abundance to selfishness, 374 00:18:45,839 --> 00:18:51,519 from selfishness to complacency, from complacency to apathy, from apathy 375 00:18:51,559 --> 00:18:55,400 to dependence, and from dependence back into bondage. It's a 376 00:18:55,440 --> 00:18:58,359 cyclical thing that humans have done for thousands of years. 377 00:18:59,440 --> 00:19:01,759 And what he what the quote went on to say 378 00:19:01,880 --> 00:19:04,480 was that the typical, you know, kind of free loving 379 00:19:04,480 --> 00:19:06,319 society lasts for about two hundred years as. 380 00:19:06,279 --> 00:19:07,200 Speaker 2: It goes through that cycle. 381 00:19:07,640 --> 00:19:10,319 Speaker 3: And I would say that as we look across countries 382 00:19:10,400 --> 00:19:13,599 on this planet today, there are many of those countries 383 00:19:13,599 --> 00:19:16,559 out there that are at the bondage to spiritual faith. 384 00:19:16,880 --> 00:19:19,319 They're trying to find that path forward. There are many 385 00:19:19,759 --> 00:19:24,079 that are taking great courage. You see this as countries 386 00:19:24,119 --> 00:19:26,519 push from more freedoms for more reforms, you see that 387 00:19:27,440 --> 00:19:29,279 you also have those that have gone from courage to 388 00:19:29,319 --> 00:19:31,640 liberty that have become more free. You look at Argentina, 389 00:19:31,720 --> 00:19:34,880 for instance, that's becoming it's from courage to liberty, and 390 00:19:34,920 --> 00:19:38,160 they're working from liberty to abundance. Our country has gone 391 00:19:38,200 --> 00:19:41,359 through all of those things, and I think we've we're 392 00:19:41,480 --> 00:19:44,720 kind of various parts of our society. Part of it 393 00:19:44,759 --> 00:19:48,319 is at the abundance to selfishness. We've seen that part 394 00:19:48,359 --> 00:19:52,359 of our country is also at selfishness to complacency. I 395 00:19:52,359 --> 00:19:56,519 think other parts of our society is apathetic, that doesn't 396 00:19:56,559 --> 00:19:59,200 seem to care. And then many have gone from apathy 397 00:19:59,240 --> 00:20:01,720 to dependence. I mentioned these A lot of these federal 398 00:20:01,759 --> 00:20:06,880 programs have made us very dependent and that creates its 399 00:20:06,920 --> 00:20:10,920 own kind of bondage. And so our country isn't until 400 00:20:10,960 --> 00:20:14,680 we can find a way to break that cycle. Other 401 00:20:14,720 --> 00:20:19,559 countries are finding a way. They're hungrier, they're they're they're 402 00:20:19,599 --> 00:20:22,160 they're going to be more assertive, they're going to try 403 00:20:22,759 --> 00:20:25,839 to be stronger. And unless America can find its footing 404 00:20:25,839 --> 00:20:28,640 again and remind itself about how it became the greatest 405 00:20:28,720 --> 00:20:32,880 nation on the planet Earth, it's going to be losing ground. 406 00:20:33,480 --> 00:20:37,960 We see that with China, we see that with some 407 00:20:38,039 --> 00:20:41,599 of the Asian countries. We see this with You know, 408 00:20:41,680 --> 00:20:45,400 even countries, small countries like Ireland I mentioned earlier, they're hungry. 409 00:20:45,559 --> 00:20:50,559 They're hungry for success, they're hungry for freedom. Even Argentina, 410 00:20:51,039 --> 00:20:54,359 they're hungry for these things that we take for granted. 411 00:20:54,359 --> 00:20:55,519 We're kind of kind of like. 412 00:20:55,519 --> 00:20:56,839 Speaker 2: Yeah, this is easy for us. 413 00:20:56,880 --> 00:20:59,319 Speaker 3: And so then we get indignant when we find people 414 00:20:59,359 --> 00:21:01,920 from other countries taking some of these jobs, and we 415 00:21:01,960 --> 00:21:04,079 get very indignant about that, and we get angry about it. 416 00:21:04,079 --> 00:21:05,359 Speaker 2: And rather than getting angry. 417 00:21:05,160 --> 00:21:07,680 Speaker 3: What we should do is say, hey, why why are 418 00:21:07,720 --> 00:21:11,119 these people from India so hungry to be successful? Why 419 00:21:11,160 --> 00:21:12,960 aren't our people it's hungry for that. And again you 420 00:21:13,000 --> 00:21:14,640 stund like a sales cam basting of America. I'm not 421 00:21:14,799 --> 00:21:16,680 There are a lot of hungry Americans out there. This 422 00:21:16,720 --> 00:21:18,960 doesn't apply to all, but it is a part of 423 00:21:19,000 --> 00:21:20,839 our society. You can't sit here and say our education 424 00:21:20,920 --> 00:21:23,240 has been declined for thirty years and think there's not 425 00:21:23,759 --> 00:21:26,920 repercussions and consequences from that. There are a lot of them, 426 00:21:27,319 --> 00:21:31,039 and we're seeing it play out now. So I think 427 00:21:31,160 --> 00:21:32,759 most of that's been put to bed, but there'll be 428 00:21:32,799 --> 00:21:35,279 another two or three eruptions before Trump gets inaugurated. 429 00:21:35,640 --> 00:21:37,519 Speaker 1: All right, hey, real quick. 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Please consider a donation 448 00:22:31,599 --> 00:22:34,240 to CITYO Hoope CLT dot org today that City of 449 00:22:34,319 --> 00:22:38,200 Hope CLT dot org today, thank you, And it is 450 00:22:38,559 --> 00:22:39,599 as an honor of privilege. 451 00:22:39,680 --> 00:22:42,400 Speaker 2: I do want to get to so much more. You know. 452 00:22:42,480 --> 00:22:43,799 Speaker 3: Luckily I've got a few more days to do it, 453 00:22:43,799 --> 00:22:45,160 but I'm going to get to some of it today. 454 00:22:46,200 --> 00:22:47,720 And this is from the rabbit Hole, one of my 455 00:22:47,759 --> 00:22:52,400 favorite feeds out there in the world of X. There 456 00:22:52,440 --> 00:22:54,680 are If I were to ask you how many pages 457 00:22:55,160 --> 00:22:58,039 are there in the federal tax code, it wouldn't be 458 00:22:58,640 --> 00:23:02,200 You wouldn't be off to guess a lot, and you're 459 00:23:02,200 --> 00:23:03,799 not going to say one hundred pages. Nobody out there 460 00:23:03,799 --> 00:23:06,079 is going to say one thousand or ten thousand pages. 461 00:23:06,519 --> 00:23:07,440 Speaker 2: But it has grown. 462 00:23:07,720 --> 00:23:12,240 Speaker 3: In nineteen thirteen, the federal tax code was four hundred 463 00:23:12,240 --> 00:23:16,480 pages long, which was a lot, and by nineteen thirty nine, 464 00:23:16,519 --> 00:23:20,599 so over the next twenty six years it only grew 465 00:23:20,640 --> 00:23:24,400 by one hundred and four pages. Between nineteen thirty nine 466 00:23:24,400 --> 00:23:28,319 and nineteen forty five they added about eight thousand pages, 467 00:23:29,200 --> 00:23:32,559 and from nineteen forty five till about nineteen eighty four, 468 00:23:33,359 --> 00:23:36,680 Reagan's first term, they went from eight thousand, two hundred 469 00:23:36,720 --> 00:23:40,720 to twenty six thousand, three hundred pages, and between ninety 470 00:23:40,720 --> 00:23:43,599 five I've seen between eighty four and two thousand and 471 00:23:43,640 --> 00:23:46,440 five it went from twenty six thousand pages to sixty 472 00:23:46,480 --> 00:23:51,400 one thousand pages, and now it stands over seventy three thousand, 473 00:23:51,440 --> 00:23:56,359 almost seventy four thousand pages long. Now here's the problem 474 00:23:56,400 --> 00:24:02,640 with this. There is no way that you average US citizen. 475 00:24:03,000 --> 00:24:04,759 Now most of you don't have to deal with a 476 00:24:04,839 --> 00:24:05,160 lot of you. 477 00:24:05,200 --> 00:24:06,079 Speaker 2: If you just get a W. 478 00:24:06,160 --> 00:24:10,319 Speaker 3: Two and then you have your deductions, it's pretty simple. 479 00:24:11,119 --> 00:24:15,200 But there's no way it should be seventy three thousand 480 00:24:15,200 --> 00:24:20,119 pages long. We've made it too complicated. The tax code 481 00:24:20,160 --> 00:24:22,640 should be understandable by anybody who wants to fill out 482 00:24:22,680 --> 00:24:26,240 their own taxes. It's amazing that the government has created 483 00:24:26,759 --> 00:24:33,599 a situation that requires an entirely, an entire spring sprung, 484 00:24:33,799 --> 00:24:36,799 brand new industry that just helps you do your taxes 485 00:24:36,839 --> 00:24:39,920 every year that sets up in walmarts and malls and 486 00:24:39,920 --> 00:24:44,359 everywhere else and online that because it's so complicated. 487 00:24:44,079 --> 00:24:47,279 Speaker 2: You have to fill out all that. And then because it's. 488 00:24:47,200 --> 00:24:50,240 Speaker 3: So complicated, all of those groups will say, hey, we're 489 00:24:50,240 --> 00:24:53,519 going to provide you audit defense. So they scare the 490 00:24:53,559 --> 00:24:55,000 heck out of you, say wait, wait, wait, what do 491 00:24:55,000 --> 00:24:58,680 you mean audit defense because, well, the tax code is complicated. 492 00:24:59,319 --> 00:25:02,839 Even we the experts on this might have gotten something wrong, 493 00:25:03,160 --> 00:25:05,920 or something you gave us may not have been one 494 00:25:06,000 --> 00:25:09,480 hundred percent accurate. So if you get audited, which you 495 00:25:09,519 --> 00:25:12,039 probably won't, but if you do, we're going to stand 496 00:25:12,039 --> 00:25:15,319 by you through it. Now, that doesn't mean that's not 497 00:25:15,359 --> 00:25:18,359 going to ruin your life for years going through an audit. 498 00:25:19,880 --> 00:25:23,480 It just means that it's complicated and it shouldn't be. 499 00:25:24,039 --> 00:25:26,319 And then when you do go through that, it robs 500 00:25:26,359 --> 00:25:30,240 you of your ability to be a productive US citizen 501 00:25:30,319 --> 00:25:32,559 because it takes off I remember visiting a friend I 502 00:25:32,640 --> 00:25:35,240 was going. I was in transit to New Zealand and back, 503 00:25:35,519 --> 00:25:38,440 and it was visiting him in a Los Angeles area 504 00:25:39,680 --> 00:25:41,880 and it went into one room and I thought, this 505 00:25:41,960 --> 00:25:44,599 is a really lovely guest room. And it wasn't a 506 00:25:44,599 --> 00:25:47,000 guest room. It would have been a guest room, except 507 00:25:47,039 --> 00:25:49,599 he was in the middle of an audit of his business. 508 00:25:49,599 --> 00:25:52,079 He was in the real estate business out there, and 509 00:25:52,160 --> 00:25:56,039 the audit was unbelievable. He must have had sixty boxes 510 00:25:56,079 --> 00:25:58,599 of documents that were just sitting in this what would 511 00:25:58,640 --> 00:26:03,359 have been a lovely bedroom, and this had been just 512 00:26:03,559 --> 00:26:05,960 crushing him day and night. 513 00:26:06,000 --> 00:26:06,799 Speaker 2: It had been consuming. 514 00:26:06,839 --> 00:26:09,000 Speaker 3: So he had to run his business, He had to 515 00:26:09,119 --> 00:26:11,200 kind of live his life and deal with the audit. 516 00:26:11,240 --> 00:26:11,960 Speaker 2: And that was it. 517 00:26:12,160 --> 00:26:17,000 Speaker 3: He just just the accumulation and printing and and and coalescing, 518 00:26:17,039 --> 00:26:17,279 and it. 519 00:26:17,240 --> 00:26:18,839 Speaker 2: Took it took him three years. 520 00:26:19,359 --> 00:26:22,480 Speaker 3: Ultimately, there was no nothing significant that came of it 521 00:26:22,759 --> 00:26:27,839 except it occupied and took away three It imprisoned him 522 00:26:27,880 --> 00:26:32,279 economically for three years. Because the tax code is that onerous, 523 00:26:32,319 --> 00:26:34,759 it is that complicated, It is not that simple. So 524 00:26:34,920 --> 00:26:39,039 here's hoping as they're unplugging things in the swamp that 525 00:26:39,079 --> 00:26:41,440 they will get to the tax code and find a 526 00:26:41,480 --> 00:26:44,559 way to simplify that absurd tax code. 527 00:26:44,680 --> 00:26:45,440 Speaker 2: It needs to be. 528 00:26:45,720 --> 00:26:47,839 Speaker 3: We need to find a way to make compliance a 529 00:26:47,839 --> 00:26:48,559 lot easier. 530 00:26:48,880 --> 00:26:50,960 Speaker 2: We need to find a way to do those kind 531 00:26:51,000 --> 00:26:51,240 of things. 532 00:26:51,319 --> 00:26:53,720 Speaker 3: I was, I mean, I even had a question, and 533 00:26:54,119 --> 00:26:56,200 I consider myself fairly well versed on this, and it 534 00:26:56,240 --> 00:26:59,960 was about capital gains and if you have capital gains, 535 00:27:00,160 --> 00:27:02,519 do you know you have to pay estimated taxes on 536 00:27:02,559 --> 00:27:05,839 that if they're long term not short term, And apparently 537 00:27:05,839 --> 00:27:09,440 you don't, but you could depends on who you talk 538 00:27:09,519 --> 00:27:11,279 to at the IRS and who you talk to in 539 00:27:11,319 --> 00:27:11,960 the tax world. 540 00:27:12,200 --> 00:27:12,559 Speaker 4: You can. 541 00:27:12,680 --> 00:27:15,000 Speaker 3: If you know you're going to have long term gains, 542 00:27:15,240 --> 00:27:17,480 then do you pay estimated taxes on it? And if so, 543 00:27:17,599 --> 00:27:20,480 how much, especially if it happened later in the year, earlier. 544 00:27:20,240 --> 00:27:20,599 Speaker 2: In the year. 545 00:27:20,880 --> 00:27:23,759 Speaker 3: That's the kind of and that's just that's a relatively 546 00:27:23,799 --> 00:27:26,039 simple thing. When you have a death in your family 547 00:27:26,519 --> 00:27:29,359 and you have to file their final tax return, and 548 00:27:29,920 --> 00:27:32,640 it's and it's not fun. I promise you that when 549 00:27:32,640 --> 00:27:36,279 someone dies in February, you have to My parents both did, 550 00:27:37,519 --> 00:27:39,799 and you have to fill out the tax return for that. 551 00:27:39,960 --> 00:27:42,000 So they've passed, and you have to fill out the 552 00:27:42,000 --> 00:27:43,799 tax return for the previous year where they lived all 553 00:27:43,799 --> 00:27:46,759 twelve months. But you also the following year have to 554 00:27:46,759 --> 00:27:48,880 file a tax return for them for the two months 555 00:27:49,000 --> 00:27:50,400 or month and a half that they may have lived 556 00:27:50,400 --> 00:27:51,000 in that year. 557 00:27:51,640 --> 00:27:52,319 Speaker 2: It is absurd. 558 00:27:52,400 --> 00:27:54,480 Speaker 3: You should be able to tie things up and be done, 559 00:27:54,720 --> 00:27:58,200 but you can't, because again, the IRS is not your friend. 560 00:27:58,440 --> 00:28:01,440 Speaker 2: The I R. S is is heartless aspect of government. 561 00:28:01,480 --> 00:28:03,279 Speaker 3: And it's funny that people want to ascribe all these 562 00:28:03,319 --> 00:28:06,200 heartfelt sentiments to people. I mean, to government, and these 563 00:28:06,240 --> 00:28:07,079 agencies help. 564 00:28:06,960 --> 00:28:09,599 Speaker 2: People, they help well. The IRS is an agency. It's 565 00:28:09,599 --> 00:28:10,519 not there to help people. 566 00:28:10,599 --> 00:28:11,160 Speaker 3: It's really not. 567 00:28:12,240 --> 00:28:12,880 Speaker 2: It's there to. 568 00:28:12,839 --> 00:28:17,720 Speaker 3: Collect it's the world's largest tax collection agency. Now, as 569 00:28:17,759 --> 00:28:20,039 we head to the top of the hour, I usually 570 00:28:20,119 --> 00:28:25,079 reserve this part of the show to talk about scientific stuff, 571 00:28:25,200 --> 00:28:27,480 stuff maybe you didn't know about or y hatdn't thought about, 572 00:28:28,039 --> 00:28:32,119 because I started the show saying we're kind of approaching 573 00:28:32,160 --> 00:28:34,039 that there's I wish I could remember the phrase right now, 574 00:28:34,079 --> 00:28:34,400 but I'm not. 575 00:28:34,440 --> 00:28:37,039 Speaker 2: I wasn't reading my sci fi stuff in the break. 576 00:28:37,480 --> 00:28:43,799 Speaker 3: That technology kind of doubles inability at a certain point 577 00:28:43,799 --> 00:28:48,440 in time, and the shorter that period of time takes place, 578 00:28:48,720 --> 00:28:51,160 meaning that if it took sixty years, I mean it 579 00:28:51,200 --> 00:28:54,079 took several hundred years from basically the Dark Ages to 580 00:28:54,279 --> 00:28:56,920 the eighteen hundreds to double. And then it took, you know, 581 00:28:56,960 --> 00:28:58,640 maybe forty years where all of a sudden we had 582 00:28:58,720 --> 00:29:00,920 flight in the early nineteen h from flight to where 583 00:29:00,920 --> 00:29:04,039 we landed on the Moon, it doubled a time or two, 584 00:29:04,200 --> 00:29:07,160 and then it started becoming about every four or five 585 00:29:07,279 --> 00:29:11,079 seven years. And now that technological ability is leap frogging 586 00:29:11,400 --> 00:29:13,799 much quicker. In other words, the time span it takes 587 00:29:13,839 --> 00:29:16,440 and each successive leaf is shorter I can't remember what 588 00:29:16,480 --> 00:29:19,880 there's a name for that. And it doesn't mean that 589 00:29:19,960 --> 00:29:23,240 it just takes place with the Internet or at Moore's law. 590 00:29:23,319 --> 00:29:25,799 Thank you, all these people just chiming in, all these 591 00:29:25,839 --> 00:29:29,720 smart people paying attention. So it's called Moore's law. And 592 00:29:30,440 --> 00:29:32,200 when you see it in sci fi, if you. 593 00:29:32,119 --> 00:29:34,000 Speaker 2: Read sci fi, you're very well versed in this happening 594 00:29:34,000 --> 00:29:34,359 and stuff. 595 00:29:34,359 --> 00:29:37,200 Speaker 3: But we see this happening, and it doesn't just mean 596 00:29:37,240 --> 00:29:40,319 that your cell phone gets better, faster, stronger. It doesn't 597 00:29:40,359 --> 00:29:43,039 just mean the Internet is more accessible or that you 598 00:29:43,039 --> 00:29:46,319 can talk to your Alexa device more rapidly. It means 599 00:29:46,359 --> 00:29:49,440 that it's taking place in all avenues at once. 600 00:29:49,839 --> 00:29:51,480 Speaker 2: I mean, you see this with investing. 601 00:29:51,519 --> 00:29:53,599 Speaker 3: You see that, you saw it with bitcoin, the rise 602 00:29:53,599 --> 00:29:57,240 of digital currency. You also are seeing it in medical tech. 603 00:29:58,000 --> 00:30:01,039 Speaker 2: And so I all back to another sci Fi. 604 00:30:01,079 --> 00:30:03,799 Speaker 3: If you remember the Star Trek, you know doctor McCoy 605 00:30:03,799 --> 00:30:05,559 had the little spinny device where you could. 606 00:30:05,400 --> 00:30:07,680 Speaker 2: Just basically wave it on you and give a diagnosis. 607 00:30:08,279 --> 00:30:11,920 Speaker 3: As much as that may seem, you know, like a 608 00:30:11,960 --> 00:30:15,400 weird sixties thing, it's not far from where we are reality. 609 00:30:15,440 --> 00:30:17,519 I mean that you know when you right now you 610 00:30:17,599 --> 00:30:19,519 can go to a Sam's or a costco and you 611 00:30:19,559 --> 00:30:21,680 can take your cart and if you've pre scanned it, 612 00:30:21,960 --> 00:30:25,440 you can kind of as you're pushing it through the gates, 613 00:30:25,799 --> 00:30:28,240 it scans your whole cart and they can look at 614 00:30:28,279 --> 00:30:29,880 you and say, yeah, you're good. They don't have to 615 00:30:29,960 --> 00:30:33,920 check your cart because it's done that. You're not having 616 00:30:33,920 --> 00:30:35,400 to put it on a conveyor belt and put it 617 00:30:35,400 --> 00:30:36,279 through a special machine. 618 00:30:36,279 --> 00:30:37,119 Speaker 2: It's just doing that. 619 00:30:37,759 --> 00:30:41,119 Speaker 3: And so we have this happening in medical tech. 620 00:30:41,720 --> 00:30:44,240 Speaker 2: Oh my god, Steve, really the tricorder. 621 00:30:44,359 --> 00:30:47,279 Speaker 3: Yes, it's the truck car. And if you look at 622 00:30:47,279 --> 00:30:50,039 hospital beds next time you're visiting a hospital with seeing 623 00:30:50,079 --> 00:30:51,920 someone look up behind them, it looks just like the 624 00:30:51,960 --> 00:30:54,759 Star Trek beds with all of the monitoring devices right 625 00:30:54,799 --> 00:30:55,200 behind you. 626 00:30:55,240 --> 00:30:56,519 Speaker 2: It's very Star Trek yet. 627 00:30:56,720 --> 00:31:01,519 Speaker 3: So yes, I appreciate that they shifre my Trickian way 628 00:31:01,559 --> 00:31:02,359 of looking at things. 629 00:31:02,359 --> 00:31:03,559 Speaker 2: So thank you very much for that. 630 00:31:03,960 --> 00:31:06,880 Speaker 3: But with technology, with medical technology, you're not far from 631 00:31:06,880 --> 00:31:08,839 being able to lie on that table and it do 632 00:31:09,000 --> 00:31:13,279 that full diagnosis. It's medical technology can help detect diabetes, 633 00:31:13,319 --> 00:31:16,559 diagnose cancer, make highly accurate predictions, and radiology identify the 634 00:31:16,640 --> 00:31:20,119 presence of TV so much more it can reduce human error. 635 00:31:20,640 --> 00:31:23,680 Some research even suggest that AI powered applications in healthcare 636 00:31:23,720 --> 00:31:26,880 could improve patient outcomes by thirty to forty percent while 637 00:31:27,000 --> 00:31:29,160 reducing treatment costs back to fifty percent. 638 00:31:29,440 --> 00:31:30,079 Speaker 2: I was just doubted. 639 00:31:30,160 --> 00:31:35,200 Speaker 3: My mother had an insulin device that monitor to twenty 640 00:31:35,240 --> 00:31:37,319 four to seven, and it showed up on my sister's 641 00:31:37,359 --> 00:31:40,000 phone two hundred miles away, so my sister could say, hey, Mom's. 642 00:31:39,720 --> 00:31:41,440 Speaker 2: Sugar is a little high or lower whatever. 643 00:31:41,920 --> 00:31:43,559 Speaker 3: And now you got the core a ring and you're 644 00:31:43,599 --> 00:31:46,640 looking if you have an Apple watch or and not 645 00:31:46,680 --> 00:31:48,720 just Apple, but the others. They're monitoring a lot of 646 00:31:48,759 --> 00:31:51,079 your health, your your heart rate, you can do you know, 647 00:31:51,119 --> 00:31:54,480 EKGs on yourself, and more and more you're going to 648 00:31:54,480 --> 00:31:58,160 be able to diagnose, maybe even self diagnosed using tech 649 00:31:58,240 --> 00:32:00,799 at your home. I don't know what point we'll get 650 00:32:00,839 --> 00:32:05,160 to the diagnosing of blood and doing cbcs with differentials 651 00:32:05,359 --> 00:32:09,279 at home, but I can see it happening. The term 652 00:32:09,480 --> 00:32:12,680 an increase in medical technology has accelerated the problem of 653 00:32:12,720 --> 00:32:16,400 what they call de skilling. That's the issue at hand 654 00:32:16,440 --> 00:32:23,640 here is that technology is racing ahead and doctors heretofore 655 00:32:23,759 --> 00:32:27,079 relied on a lot of interaction with the patient, and 656 00:32:27,119 --> 00:32:30,960 so doctors overtime, many of them and still do, by 657 00:32:30,960 --> 00:32:34,839 the way, have a lot of inherent wisdom with respect 658 00:32:34,839 --> 00:32:35,640 to things they've seen. 659 00:32:35,680 --> 00:32:38,079 Speaker 2: I love to read, you know, the Emperor Maaladies. 660 00:32:38,079 --> 00:32:41,839 Speaker 3: I've read several books on cancer research, and that skill 661 00:32:41,960 --> 00:32:44,640 set allows doctors to cut through saying kind, I know 662 00:32:44,680 --> 00:32:47,359 what this is or where not to look, or this 663 00:32:47,400 --> 00:32:49,519 is a false lead. And if you ever watch the 664 00:32:49,559 --> 00:32:51,319 show House, it was a lot of that. They had 665 00:32:51,400 --> 00:32:53,680 a really cracked team that the premise was they're trying 666 00:32:53,680 --> 00:32:56,319 to figure out how to solve a medical mystery, and 667 00:32:56,359 --> 00:33:00,160 they're using powers of deduction, they're using their powers of research, 668 00:33:00,160 --> 00:33:02,559 They're using a lot of different things at once. But 669 00:33:02,599 --> 00:33:08,559 when technology starts doing that, doctors become de skilled, which 670 00:33:08,599 --> 00:33:10,759 means a reduction in the level of skill required to 671 00:33:10,799 --> 00:33:13,200 complete a task. We saw it because some or all 672 00:33:13,240 --> 00:33:16,359 of it have been automated d skilling. You see it 673 00:33:16,400 --> 00:33:19,680 in almost every automation process where the automation process does 674 00:33:19,680 --> 00:33:20,839 a lot of people don't know how to do things, 675 00:33:20,880 --> 00:33:22,200 and when it breaks it out, how do you fix that? 676 00:33:22,279 --> 00:33:23,559 I don't know, got to call the guy that fixes 677 00:33:23,559 --> 00:33:26,279 a machine because I don't know what it's doing. Historically, 678 00:33:26,359 --> 00:33:28,079 the term de skilling has been used in the context 679 00:33:28,119 --> 00:33:30,400 of automation. While workers on assembly lines in the past 680 00:33:30,480 --> 00:33:33,720 were responsible for tasks that required manual skills by constructing 681 00:33:33,759 --> 00:33:37,279 small parts and stuff and repairs machineries change that. Within 682 00:33:37,279 --> 00:33:40,480 the context of medicine, d skilling refers to the decrease 683 00:33:40,559 --> 00:33:44,039 and a physician's ability to derive information on the basis 684 00:33:44,079 --> 00:33:48,400 of detectable signs and symptoms alone without using technological aids. 685 00:33:49,319 --> 00:33:52,920 Speaker 2: But patient care does require kind of a balance of this. Now. 686 00:33:53,319 --> 00:33:56,359 I saw this a few probably two or three years 687 00:33:56,400 --> 00:33:59,440 ago in part. One of the other fun jobs. 688 00:33:59,240 --> 00:34:00,400 Speaker 3: That I've been able to be a part of is 689 00:34:00,440 --> 00:34:03,400 the medical travel stuff. When I was visiting a kind 690 00:34:03,440 --> 00:34:07,400 of breakthrough medical group in North Carolina that was putting together. 691 00:34:08,119 --> 00:34:10,760 Was it a trailer was kind of like a diagnosis 692 00:34:10,760 --> 00:34:12,920 in a box. It had a box with all of 693 00:34:12,960 --> 00:34:15,559 these this technology in it, and you could put it 694 00:34:15,639 --> 00:34:18,719 in a factory or in a place, and it was 695 00:34:18,880 --> 00:34:21,079 a remote doctor's office and all the tech in it. 696 00:34:21,280 --> 00:34:24,079 A patient could go in, they're interfacing with a doctor. 697 00:34:24,320 --> 00:34:26,760 It's got all these gadgets in it, and it could 698 00:34:26,840 --> 00:34:29,440 help diagnose right there on the spot. A given patient 699 00:34:29,519 --> 00:34:31,119 in this doc in a box kind of way of 700 00:34:31,159 --> 00:34:33,880 looking at things, and that technology is only going. 701 00:34:33,760 --> 00:34:34,199 Speaker 2: To get better. 702 00:34:34,239 --> 00:34:35,840 Speaker 3: This was two or three years ago, so I would 703 00:34:35,840 --> 00:34:39,880 suspect it's gotten much better. So hospitals in the US 704 00:34:40,280 --> 00:34:43,639 lean more on technology than a lot of places, and 705 00:34:43,800 --> 00:34:47,719 funding structures incentivize that use. But is it possible that 706 00:34:47,840 --> 00:34:51,559 US practitioners should be taking notes from doctors in more 707 00:34:52,000 --> 00:34:55,400 underresourced areas who've made had to do more with less. 708 00:34:55,840 --> 00:34:58,119 So I don't know where that line gets crossed, but 709 00:34:58,159 --> 00:35:01,960 at a certain point tech Moore's law as the producers 710 00:35:02,000 --> 00:35:05,599 aptly threw into the mix here that when does that 711 00:35:05,679 --> 00:35:07,719 tech become so odd? I mean, in a way it 712 00:35:07,760 --> 00:35:09,800 could be golden because think about trying to get appointments 713 00:35:09,800 --> 00:35:12,320 with doctors and get diagnosis on things, and how many 714 00:35:12,320 --> 00:35:14,000 times you've had to sit and wait when you know 715 00:35:14,440 --> 00:35:16,840 there's a billion more cells that are replicating in your 716 00:35:16,880 --> 00:35:19,679 body and hurting you while you wait. 717 00:35:19,559 --> 00:35:21,519 Speaker 2: For there to be time to look at you. 718 00:35:22,280 --> 00:35:26,840 Speaker 3: And technology and theory could expedite this to the point 719 00:35:26,880 --> 00:35:30,559 that it makes a big difference in your diagnosis and 720 00:35:30,559 --> 00:35:33,599 treatment and moving forward. The way someone this is how 721 00:35:33,639 --> 00:35:36,039 they finish, it's a very long article, but it's from 722 00:35:36,039 --> 00:35:38,159 the Nation dot com. The way someone looks at you, 723 00:35:38,199 --> 00:35:40,480 the intonation and their voice, and the many other very 724 00:35:40,559 --> 00:35:44,519 human clues that patients convey are exactly why technology can 725 00:35:44,599 --> 00:35:49,719 never replace physician intuition. And you know, while the United 726 00:35:49,719 --> 00:35:53,239 States often pushes a test forward approach to medicine, it's 727 00:35:53,280 --> 00:35:57,039 those sorts of creative solutions alongside more traditional medical interventions 728 00:35:57,039 --> 00:35:58,760 that end up giving the patients. 729 00:35:58,400 --> 00:35:59,159 Speaker 2: The care they need. 730 00:36:00,320 --> 00:36:02,280 Speaker 3: We'll see how that all works out, but the truth 731 00:36:02,280 --> 00:36:05,039 of the matter is the technology is going to be 732 00:36:05,079 --> 00:36:09,280 able to identify potential cancers much much earlier than right 733 00:36:09,280 --> 00:36:11,239 now we can. It's going to be able to potentially, 734 00:36:11,800 --> 00:36:13,880 not potentially, but it is going to look at genetic 735 00:36:13,960 --> 00:36:16,840 predispositions long before and maybe even treat. 736 00:36:16,559 --> 00:36:18,400 Speaker 2: Those genetic predispositions. 737 00:36:18,960 --> 00:36:23,159 Speaker 3: And I believe that whoever gets to the home diagnosis 738 00:36:23,199 --> 00:36:26,760 angle on things is going to be you know, the 739 00:36:26,800 --> 00:36:31,119 next Apple or Elon Musk or whatever, because I think 740 00:36:31,159 --> 00:36:36,559 that home medical care that's patient driven technology assisted with 741 00:36:36,719 --> 00:36:39,760 the power of smart physicians at the other end, it's 742 00:36:39,800 --> 00:36:41,760 going to expedite and not only that, I think it's 743 00:36:41,800 --> 00:36:44,119 going to be able to expedite treatments as well. We're 744 00:36:44,159 --> 00:36:47,320 a long way from it, but again, with the application 745 00:36:47,360 --> 00:36:51,920 of Moore's law, it could become far more applicable because 746 00:36:51,960 --> 00:36:54,760 if that technology keeps doubling and tripling every couple of years, 747 00:36:55,079 --> 00:36:57,079 there's no telling where we can go. I'm amazed at 748 00:36:57,079 --> 00:36:58,320 what your watch can do for you. 749 00:36:58,360 --> 00:37:00,480 Speaker 2: Do you get health alerts on your watch? Maybe I 750 00:37:00,480 --> 00:37:01,400 should pay attention to those. 751 00:37:01,679 --> 00:37:03,960 Speaker 1: All right, that'll do it for this episode. Thank you 752 00:37:04,039 --> 00:37:06,000 so much for listening. I could not do the show 753 00:37:06,039 --> 00:37:08,559 without your support and the support of the businesses that 754 00:37:08,679 --> 00:37:11,760 advertise on the podcast, so if you'd like, please support 755 00:37:11,760 --> 00:37:13,440 them too and tell them you heard it here. You 756 00:37:13,480 --> 00:37:16,079 can also become a patron at my Patreon page or 757 00:37:16,199 --> 00:37:19,800 go to thepetecleanershow dot com. Again, thank you so much 758 00:37:19,840 --> 00:37:26,280 for listening, and don't break anything while I'm gone.