Speaker 1: You're listening to Bigfoot Society, and I'm Jeremiah Byron. In
Speaker 1: this show, we go beyond the campfire stories to bring
Speaker 1: you first hand encounters from people who say they've seen
Speaker 1: something impossible. From backwoods trails and remote mountain haulers to
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Speaker 1: and each one leaves us with more questions than answers.
Speaker 1: These are the voices of the people who've lived it.
Speaker 1: To settle in, because today you'll hear another account that
Speaker 1: just might change the way you see the woods forever.
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Speaker 1: I've got the privilege of talking to Robin Haines today.
Speaker 1: Robin is an experiencer that has had almost sixty years
Speaker 1: of experience regarding Bigfoot and I've been wanting to talk
Speaker 1: to Robin for a very long time, so I'm very
Speaker 1: excited to have Robin on the show finally. But Robin,
Speaker 1: how are you doing tonight?
Speaker 2: I'm doing great. Thank you. So much for having me.
Speaker 2: I've been looking forward to it.
Speaker 1: Absolutely. Your name has come up multiple times from my
Speaker 1: listeners in different ways, and just one of the the
Speaker 1: names that they're like, Man, you really should have Robin
Speaker 1: on to chat with her and have her share what
Speaker 1: she's experienced. So we're definitely making that happen tonight. But
Speaker 1: you know, Robin, I'm going to go ahead and kind
Speaker 1: of pass things over to you and kind of bring
Speaker 1: us back to how this all started and how you
Speaker 1: started having these connections with well, I'm going to say
Speaker 1: with bigfoot, but you know, I apologize if there's a
Speaker 1: certain way that you refer to them as well.
Speaker 2: Yeah, different groups want to be called different things. You know,
Speaker 2: there's some that are SA Squad, that are Sukalu, some
Speaker 2: that are at least you. I mean, it just depends.
Speaker 2: I'm fine with any of them. They tend to get
Speaker 2: some groups get a little bit agitated when you call
Speaker 2: them bigfoot. But then like the ones in Michigan, they
Speaker 2: didn't care. But they knew they read your intent and
Speaker 2: they knew my intent. So if I call them a
Speaker 2: big foot or i'd say the foots or whatever, they
Speaker 2: didn't get too upset. About it just because they're able
Speaker 2: to read you. I mean, they know your heart, they
Speaker 2: know your intent, and so they never took it personally.
Speaker 2: But there's something that get a little funny about it.
Speaker 1: Absolutely.
Speaker 2: So yeah, what.
Speaker 1: Bring me back to this the first memory you have
Speaker 1: of how this all came into your life? And and
Speaker 1: what was that?
Speaker 2: Like? Really young? I was really young for me, and
Speaker 2: I said the other shows too, but it's true I
Speaker 2: never realized that not everybody had them around them. I
Speaker 2: had no way of knowing that because I was so tiny.
Speaker 2: Like I can remember being, you know, as far back
Speaker 2: as three and four years old and looking out the
Speaker 2: window and seeing their faces in the window. And then
Speaker 2: when I was like four and a half five, you know,
Speaker 2: back then it was safe to let your kids be
Speaker 2: out to play. And at the end of my road,
Speaker 2: which was only like three or four horse houses, down
Speaker 2: there were woods and there was all these sand piles
Speaker 2: and you could ride your little tricycles up and down
Speaker 2: it or whatever, or dig and make sand castles. And
Speaker 2: I would go down there, and I had three or
Speaker 2: four of them that would come out of the woods
Speaker 2: and to stand there and watch me. So for me,
Speaker 2: I was in complete ignorance that this was not normal.
Speaker 2: My life has never been a normal life. It's not
Speaker 2: been what everybody else's normal would be. The abnormal isn't normal.
Speaker 2: And when they would, you know, do the mind speak,
Speaker 2: I had no idea that not everybody did that. I
Speaker 2: didn't even know that's what it was called. I just
Speaker 2: knew that they would talk to me in my head.
Speaker 2: They would verbally talk to me as well, but it
Speaker 2: was easier to understand in my mind. It wasn't as
Speaker 2: grumbled and as deep and guttural, you know, And they
Speaker 2: were just always around. I would be in grade school
Speaker 2: and I would go over to a friend of mine's
Speaker 2: house and she had several acres of lamb. I'd go
Speaker 2: over there and they would come out, and they'd stand
Speaker 2: there and they would just watch me. And it was
Speaker 2: so crazy because, like a year or two ago, one
Speaker 2: of my childhood friends that I used to hang around
Speaker 2: with quite a bit, you know, I don't ever remember
Speaker 2: my friends knowing a lot about him, a couple instances,
Speaker 2: but not a lot. And she happened to be on
Speaker 2: Facebook and she joined one of the groups that I
Speaker 2: was in, and I saw that she was on there,
Speaker 2: and I thought geez, I've been on here posting pictures
Speaker 2: of them and pictures of portals and talking and you know,
Speaker 2: now it's out. Because I didn't even come public or
Speaker 2: talk to anybody about it other than close personal friends
Speaker 2: till I was in my forties. And I thought, she is,
Speaker 2: now she's going to think I'm a nutcase, you know.
Speaker 2: And she messaged me privately and she said, do you
Speaker 2: remember when you showed them to me? And this is
Speaker 2: somebody that I had not talked to in years, and
Speaker 2: she said, don't you remember when we hear here in
Speaker 2: Gradesol you showed them to me? And I thought, you
Speaker 2: know what I forgot all about that? I was just
Speaker 2: always so used to them being around, you know. And
Speaker 2: that's the thing is I became more public, and I
Speaker 2: only went public because of their insistence, not mine. They
Speaker 2: wanted people to know the truth. And I had originally
Speaker 2: tried to reach out to find people. I thought, you know,
Speaker 2: the things that were going on in my world made
Speaker 2: no sense. I mean, it made sense to me, but
Speaker 2: it wasn't like everybody else's. So I did eventually reach
Speaker 2: out to try to find somebody that might be able
Speaker 2: to shed some light on what was going on and
Speaker 2: then eventually that's when they wanted me to talk about them,
Speaker 2: and I went forward. But you know, I was very
Speaker 2: much limited to what I would say to people, you know,
Speaker 2: and people would ask me what about this? What about this?
Speaker 2: And I'm like, this was my normal. You're not understanding.
Speaker 2: I didn't know that not everybody went out in the
Speaker 2: woods and had them following them around, or looked in
Speaker 2: their window or heard them talking in their mind like
Speaker 2: I just I grew up thinking it was normal. When
Speaker 2: I was young, I was like five six years old,
Speaker 2: I said to my mom and dad, I said, I
Speaker 2: want you to tell me about Sasquatch. I want you
Speaker 2: to tell me about the ets because these are all
Speaker 2: things i'm inen coloring. And they were like, we can't.
Speaker 2: We don't know anything about them. There were no books
Speaker 2: out there at that time. Patterson Gimwin hadn't come forward
Speaker 2: with everything. Yet they said, we don't even know you
Speaker 2: know anything about them. They never said I was lying.
Speaker 2: They never felt I was. To my knowledge. They just
Speaker 2: thought I had an imaginary friend. But they did notice
Speaker 2: that things would happen. Toys outside would be moved, or
Speaker 2: there would be prints, you know, in the windows, or
Speaker 2: I would say, Mom, look at you know, it's looking
Speaker 2: in and then she turned around. Course it would have
Speaker 2: been gone. But you know, so those things would happen.
Speaker 2: As I grew up and my friends were around, things
Speaker 2: would happen. They would see too that they couldn't explain,
Speaker 2: and that continued. As I got older. I reached out
Speaker 2: and I was very blessed. I found Bob Daegel from
Speaker 2: Michigan Bigfoot, who is, as far as I am concerned,
Speaker 2: as my hero because he was the first person that
Speaker 2: actually talked to me and I could tell him this
Speaker 2: is what's going on, and he acted like he believed me,
Speaker 2: and he introduced me. Igor Borstaf and Edwor came out.
Speaker 2: He was supposed to stay a couple of hours. He
Speaker 2: stayed ten days because there was just too much activity,
Speaker 2: too much evidence that was there. And then when he left,
Speaker 2: he invited me to speak at the Scientific International conference
Speaker 2: in Siberia. So I was flown out there and I
Speaker 2: did that conference, and I came home and I thought, Okay,
Speaker 2: people actually want to know. Maybe this is safe. You know,
Speaker 2: I can tell people and I can give them the
Speaker 2: information that they've been because they've been teaching me things
Speaker 2: that my whole life, the things that I talk about
Speaker 2: and the people I work with a lot of people
Speaker 2: on this stuff, and the things that I share with people.
Speaker 2: I learned from the Sasquatch. I didn't pick it up
Speaker 2: out of a book. I didn't pick it about it
Speaker 2: than air. They taught me. I didn't go by anybody
Speaker 2: else's experiences because I got it from them, you know.
Speaker 2: And so I came back from that conference thinking this
Speaker 2: is a good thing, and I spoke at a small
Speaker 2: conference in Michigan, and then the next thing I know,
Speaker 2: I have death threats and kidnapping attempts and you know,
Speaker 2: being threatened with physical harm because if somebody were to
Speaker 2: kidnap me or whatever they thought, all the Sasquatch would
Speaker 2: come running in to rescue me. It doesn't work that way.
Speaker 2: Have they helped me, Yes, they literally saved my life
Speaker 2: five or six times, so I will say that, But
Speaker 2: generally that is not the rule. That's not going to
Speaker 2: get anybody what they want. And I just have always
Speaker 2: grown up with them around me. It doesn't matter where
Speaker 2: I go, they show up eventually, and so I've always
Speaker 2: tried to defend them in my own way, you know.
Speaker 2: I lived in Michigan, and I had, oh my gosh,
Speaker 2: so many of them there, structures everywhere I went out.
Speaker 2: Every night, they tap on my window on my bedroom
Speaker 2: and I would go out, never took a flashlight, went
Speaker 2: out in my pajama, sat on a log in the
Speaker 2: middle of the woods, and they would walk around me
Speaker 2: and they would talk and they would chatter in various things.
Speaker 2: And I did that for four or five years. I
Speaker 2: was out with them, interacting with them like that. But
Speaker 2: my house became like ground zero where I really excuse me,
Speaker 2: other than a few select people Egor Boar Stuff, ab Daegel,
Speaker 2: Joe Stewart, a couple other people I let out there
Speaker 2: that I knew would never harm them. I wouldn't let
Speaker 2: people come to my house because if anybody knew where
Speaker 2: they were, I was afraid someone would try to hurt them.
Speaker 2: And I just got very protective. And you know, then
Speaker 2: it got to where they had taught me enough things
Speaker 2: where they would send me to different areas. If there
Speaker 2: was a problem, one that was bothering people, I would
Speaker 2: get sent to a certain area. There was really good
Speaker 2: ones over there that they needed the land blessed. I
Speaker 2: would go there. They taught me how to do the
Speaker 2: energy work and all of these various things. You know,
Speaker 2: I'm not an expert. I will never ever claim to
Speaker 2: be an expert. And my own personal belief is there
Speaker 2: are no experts. I know a lot of people that
Speaker 2: think they are, but we are never going to know
Speaker 2: everything about these beings. We're just not. You know, We're
Speaker 2: blessed that they teach us what they do. So I
Speaker 2: never tell anybody I am an expert, and I'm perfectly fine.
Speaker 2: If somebody asked me a question and I don't know
Speaker 2: what I have no problem saying I don't know the
Speaker 2: answer that you know, I'll try to get it for you.
Speaker 2: But that doesn't mean I can they make all the decisions,
Speaker 2: you know. I get a lot of people that are like, well,
Speaker 2: tell them I'm going to be there because I do
Speaker 2: speak mind speak fluently with a lot of different cryptids
Speaker 2: as well as other things, and they'll say, let them
Speaker 2: know I'm coming. Well, I can let them know you're coming,
Speaker 2: but I can't make them appear for you. I can't
Speaker 2: make them, you know, step out and wave or shake
Speaker 2: your hand. I don't have that power. Nobody does. They
Speaker 2: pretty much do what they want to do how they
Speaker 2: want to do it. They are. You know, I worked
Speaker 2: on the genome project with doctor melbu Ketcham, and you know,
Speaker 2: it was very difficult. I already knew what they were.
Speaker 2: I had asked them years ago what they were and
Speaker 2: they had told me. And so now she does the study.
Speaker 2: I didn't know her before the study, and they were
Speaker 2: the ones that wanted me to find her and help her,
Speaker 2: which I did, and I will always give her one
Speaker 2: hundred percent of my support because she was right on
Speaker 2: money with all of it. A lot of the truth
Speaker 2: didn't come out about the study because we never got
Speaker 2: the opportunity to present it because the haters just were
Speaker 2: so intense. It was just a matter of she's thrupped
Speaker 2: her hands and said, there's no point. They're not going
Speaker 2: to listen anyway. But yeah, I mean I had turned
Speaker 2: in DNA samples from them all that came back exactly
Speaker 2: what I knew them to be. Sasquatch. You know, I've
Speaker 2: they've done so many, so many crazy things, you know,
Speaker 2: and every time I've moved, I'm like, I'll probably never
Speaker 2: see them again, and get there they are. They show up,
Speaker 2: The dogmens show up. I've had cat people show up
Speaker 2: various different cryptods. You know, I've not had a lot
Speaker 2: of bad experience. I've had bad experiences. I've dealt with
Speaker 2: aggressive ones and same with the dog men. But there's
Speaker 2: more good than bad. I think people need to know
Speaker 2: that they are a type of people. They aren't our
Speaker 2: type of people, but they are a type of people.
Speaker 2: They have their own language, they have their own alphabet,
Speaker 2: they can read, they can write, they can do anything.
Speaker 2: You know. Yes, they have abilities they do and that's
Speaker 2: hard to grasp. But when you physically see them do
Speaker 2: these things, you know, I'm a person like a lot
Speaker 2: of people are. Where Not only do I want to
Speaker 2: hear about it, I want to physically see it. Well,
Speaker 2: I've been living with them around me for almost sixty
Speaker 2: years now, and I've seen it. I haven't seen everything.
Speaker 2: I'm sure. I'm sure they get more up their sleeves,
Speaker 2: but I've seen a lot, and it becomes harder and
Speaker 2: harder two say this isn't real when you're watching it.
Speaker 2: When they had several years ago, you know, they'd always
Speaker 2: cloaked on and off, and everybody was fighting. It was
Speaker 2: the big fight at the time with everybody in the
Speaker 2: Bigfoot community was do they cloak? Do they not cloak?
Speaker 2: And you know, I had seen things I couldn't explain.
Speaker 2: I had been out when I lived in Michigan and
Speaker 2: I'm walking through the snow and I'm watching three or
Speaker 2: four feet away from me footprints being made in the snow,
Speaker 2: but there's nothing there. Or walk around out in the woods,
Speaker 2: you know, when it's fall time and the leaves are
Speaker 2: down and I'm hearing footprints crunching in the leaves next
Speaker 2: to me. How do you explain it? You can't. And
Speaker 2: then people were arguing about it, and so I just
Speaker 2: said to them one day, I said, I just want
Speaker 2: the truth. That's all I want is the truth. You know,
Speaker 2: just what is this? And they explained it. They explained
Speaker 2: how they do it, which to me was incredible. It's
Speaker 2: simply not as difficult as what everybody seems to think
Speaker 2: it is. They are frequency and energy based. They work
Speaker 2: on a higher frequency than us, in a higher energy,
Speaker 2: not like a physical run around the black energy, but
Speaker 2: energy that's within your body, okay. And when you raise
Speaker 2: your frequency high enough, you can do a great many things.
Speaker 2: We can as well. Maybe not everything they can do,
Speaker 2: but we can do a lot. And so when they go.
Speaker 2: They can do a shimmer, which looks like the Predator effects,
Speaker 2: so kind of like that thick water thing that you
Speaker 2: saw in the movie Predator. Or they can do a
Speaker 2: complete cloak. They do that by raising the frequency. If
Speaker 2: you look at a hummingbird and a hummingbird goes to
Speaker 2: a bird feeder, and you see this humming bird getting
Speaker 2: the nectar out of the bird feeder, all you see
Speaker 2: is the head, the beacon, the body. You never see
Speaker 2: the wings. You don't see the wings because the frequency
Speaker 2: or vibration is so fast as it's moving the wings
Speaker 2: and they become transparent. It's the same thing. If you
Speaker 2: ask them how they do it, they'll tell you they've
Speaker 2: bend the light. They don't leave, they're right there. They
Speaker 2: just bend the light. The higher the frequency, the clearer
Speaker 2: they become, and so they can stand right there. I've
Speaker 2: had them stand next to me and I feel the
Speaker 2: pressure of a hand on my shoulder, you know. And
Speaker 2: I've had them right within ten feet of me and
Speaker 2: go from a physical form to a cloak. I mean,
Speaker 2: I've seen it. I've had witnesses with me that have
Speaker 2: seen it. You know. That's the other thing about me
Speaker 2: if I was the only one that saw these things
Speaker 2: in my presence, you know, I would think maybe there's
Speaker 2: something wrong with me, because I've seen some incredible things,
Speaker 2: just mind blowing things. But I've had people with me,
Speaker 2: multiple people with me, you know, researchers that are worth
Speaker 2: their weight in gold, and they've seen these things happen
Speaker 2: as well, you know. So I'm okay with the people
Speaker 2: that doubt. It's all right. Everybody should have a little
Speaker 2: bit of doubt and you know, a little bit of discernment.
Speaker 2: Okay with that, you know, because I know what I see,
Speaker 2: I know what I've witnessed, I know what I've experienced,
Speaker 2: you know, and I can't people. Most people have been
Speaker 2: really good to me. I'm very blessed the Bigfoot community.
Speaker 2: While I've had some haters, yes, and that's fine, Predominantly
Speaker 2: people have been very gracious and kind to me, and
Speaker 2: I will be forever grateful for that. And so when
Speaker 2: I get the people that either don't want to just
Speaker 2: have a conversation or be respectful and say hey, I
Speaker 2: don't believe you, and that's fine. They're entitled to their opinion.
Speaker 2: I don't worry about it because while they're over there
Speaker 2: doubting me and thinking of what they can say. I'm
Speaker 2: going to come home and I'm going to go out
Speaker 2: in the woods and I'm going to interact with them.
Speaker 2: So it's a win win, you know. So it's been
Speaker 2: a very very good ride, so to speak. You know,
Speaker 2: I moved from Michigan and I just had so much
Speaker 2: activity there my whole life, and then I moved to
Speaker 2: South Carolina. I was very concerned that the activity would stop.
Speaker 2: It Absolutely we did not stop. I've got three or
Speaker 2: four clans that come in and out of my property
Speaker 2: now as well as dogmen, and I had dogmen in
Speaker 2: Michigan as well, and in the process of moving to Texas,
Speaker 2: and I've already got three or four plans that I'm
Speaker 2: working with there as well, and then I have some
Speaker 2: that are in other states. This last summer, it's been
Speaker 2: really busy because it's not just been the mind speak
Speaker 2: or remote viewing, because I can do all those things,
Speaker 2: but it's been more driving there and having a physical contact,
Speaker 2: and that's been really great. You know. That just kind
Speaker 2: of solidifies what I already know, you know, But I've
Speaker 2: always the dogmen have been around me. There's a lot
Speaker 2: of people that say that the dogmen and the sasquatch
Speaker 2: will not share territory, and in some areas that is true,
Speaker 2: but they're more often than that. They aren't going to
Speaker 2: be sitting around a campfire having dinner together, but they
Speaker 2: will share space. They did it in Michigan. I had
Speaker 2: three or four of them that were there. My son
Speaker 2: actually went out hunting one day and a very small
Speaker 2: dog man pop came right up to you. Was sitting
Speaker 2: at the base of a tree, and it was really
Speaker 2: early in the morning. He fell asleepy well, coupan was
Speaker 2: standing right next to him, and then it ran off
Speaker 2: with his mom. But you know, they've been pretty good.
Speaker 2: I have been called out to areas where aggressive ones
Speaker 2: are at and did assist with that as to the
Speaker 2: best of my ability, and the same thing with the sascot.
Speaker 2: But there are you know, there are more good ones
Speaker 2: than bad. It helps if you learn about their culture,
Speaker 2: learn about their ways of life, learn about their laws.
Speaker 2: They have their own laws, they have their own culture.
Speaker 2: All of these things that we do, it's just different
Speaker 2: from ours. Our words don't mean the same that theirs do.
Speaker 2: You know, they tend to pick up a lot of
Speaker 2: ways from the Native Americans, which is fantastic. Different groups
Speaker 2: will have a different language. You know, some that were
Speaker 2: in Tennessee that had their language. I tried that language
Speaker 2: in Michigan. I got absolutely nowhere with it. You know,
Speaker 2: they just said it wasn't theirs. Same thing in Texas
Speaker 2: they have certain language that is not normal the ones
Speaker 2: here in South Carolina, just like we do. I mean,
Speaker 2: we have various kinds of people. You know, we have Chinese,
Speaker 2: we have Mexican, we have American, you know, whatever. It's different,
Speaker 2: but we're all still people. And it's it's pretty much
Speaker 2: the same with them, you know. They they have all
Speaker 2: different size, shapes, color, they're not all conial head. You know,
Speaker 2: one that I'm extremely close to and interact with on
Speaker 2: a regular basis, his head is so very much human
Speaker 2: it's unbelievable, other than it's covered in very very short hair.
Speaker 2: And he's come up and just walked right out of
Speaker 2: the train line and walked up to me and got
Speaker 2: within ten feet, you know, and he stood there for
Speaker 2: several minutes and then he finally cloaked right in front
Speaker 2: of me. So, but they are in every different color
Speaker 2: and just because they're white does not mean they're old,
Speaker 2: does not mean they're in albino. Do they get gray
Speaker 2: hair as they get older, Yeah, they do. Are they albinols? Yeah,
Speaker 2: I just like with our people. But they can have
Speaker 2: white hair just because they have white hair, all the
Speaker 2: different skin tones, just like we have several different skin tones.
Speaker 2: They are the same way. You know, they're very much
Speaker 2: as individualized as we are. They're type of people. It's
Speaker 2: just a different culture and you know, it's kind of
Speaker 2: frightening I think for people because the powers that be
Speaker 2: have really put it into our heads that these things
Speaker 2: don't exist, and there's reasons that they've kept them quiet.
Speaker 2: You know, I don't know all of them. I know
Speaker 2: quite a few of them. But the reality is is
Speaker 2: it doesn't mean they're not there, and they are, and
Speaker 2: they've been living amongst us, you know, for like fifteen
Speaker 2: thousand years. They are coming out more now about every
Speaker 2: three or four years, they make this big attempt to
Speaker 2: try to get people to accept that they're there, and
Speaker 2: it usually hasn't gone very well so, but they are
Speaker 2: letting people see them more and more. Now. They pick
Speaker 2: and choose who they want to interact with. They know
Speaker 2: your heart better than you will ever know it. They
Speaker 2: go by your frequency, they go by your energy, they
Speaker 2: go by your heart if it's pure, and they go
Speaker 2: by your intent. You cannot pull anything over on them.
Speaker 2: It is impossible. They're like a light detector. I have
Speaker 2: one that I work with a lot, and if I'm
Speaker 2: having a bad day or if there's something wrong, he
Speaker 2: knows about it every time and will get hold of
Speaker 2: me to see if I'm okay. Like they it's just
Speaker 2: it's a riot. I've been doing this all this time
Speaker 2: and they still never cease to amaze me.
Speaker 1: Robin, some really fascinating things you you've brought up there.
Speaker 1: I do have a few questions for you, if that's okay.
Speaker 1: I just been making some notes as I've been listening here.
Speaker 1: What do you think the main reasons that you've come
Speaker 1: across that the Sasquatch people are being kept quiet.
Speaker 2: Are I think of all, they can't be controlled. The
Speaker 2: government can't control. They're not going to be able to
Speaker 2: You're talking about something that can literally pick up a
Speaker 2: car and throw it across the football field. The strength
Speaker 2: is a mess. They're highly intelligent, they are masters at hiding.
Speaker 2: Plus they have the cloaking ability, and that's before you
Speaker 2: even get into the other abilities that they have that
Speaker 2: we can't match. And so there's that, but I think
Speaker 2: there's some that I won't go into just because they're
Speaker 2: really dark and it's better off left unside. But another thing,
Speaker 2: and this is a big one, is our forests in
Speaker 2: our national parks bring in a great deal of revenue
Speaker 2: every year. Okay, our country depends on that revenue. If
Speaker 2: people were to know that they are out there and
Speaker 2: there really isn't a way to safeguard and protect people
Speaker 2: who want to be out there, and they're not all dangerous.
Speaker 2: Just because they're out there doesn't mean it's unsafe. And
Speaker 2: quite honestly, knowing what I know about is out there
Speaker 2: in that world, they are the least of the problems,
Speaker 2: you know. I mean, have they done things that have
Speaker 2: harmed humans? Absolutely. You'll never hear me say that they
Speaker 2: are all good, because they're not. But neither are our people.
Speaker 2: You know. I have been out in the woods by
Speaker 2: myself and had a clan out there, and I am
Speaker 2: far less afraid of them than I am if I
Speaker 2: go out in the woods with a hundred of our
Speaker 2: people that I don't know, that will scare me to death.
Speaker 2: They you know, I feel safer with them, but that is,
Speaker 2: you know, a big concern for the government. I mean,
Speaker 2: it changes revenue and you're talking about very difficult situation
Speaker 2: for them to protect anybody. And I think too, they don't,
Speaker 2: you know. I think they need to know more about
Speaker 2: their culture and their ways of life because people get frightened.
Speaker 2: I have people I work with people all over the world.
Speaker 2: I eventually opened my own business for it, but before that,
Speaker 2: I've worked with people for over forty years and I've
Speaker 2: got people that I work with everywhere, and I get
Speaker 2: a lot of people that call me. They're like, I PTSD,
Speaker 2: and I said, okay, please, let's take it back, let's
Speaker 2: walk through it and maybe I can help explain it
Speaker 2: and see what we can come up with. And they're like, well,
Speaker 2: it yelled at me and it waved my arms in
Speaker 2: the air. And I said, did it physically touch you? No?
Speaker 2: Did it zap you? No? Well what did it do?
Speaker 2: It yelled at me and it waved its arms. First off,
Speaker 2: for people that aren't aware of having any contact with them,
Speaker 2: it would be terrifying. And my sympathy goes out to
Speaker 2: them because they look so different than us. We're equally
Speaker 2: as terrifying to them because we look like freaks of
Speaker 2: nature because we have no hair. So but it is frightening.
Speaker 2: But when you break it down, people need to realize,
Speaker 2: if you're in the military and you're waving your arms
Speaker 2: in the air, it's a surrender. But yet when they
Speaker 2: do it, it's violence. And the other thing is we assume,
Speaker 2: which is our first problem. We assume when they yell
Speaker 2: they're being violent. They can do it for a lot
Speaker 2: of reasons. They can do it to alert other ones
Speaker 2: that are around because they seldom or by themselves. They
Speaker 2: can do it to stop you from walking into an
Speaker 2: area where something else is going on. I've actually had them,
Speaker 2: you know, try to stop me because I was going
Speaker 2: into an area that there was a bearer for my
Speaker 2: own protection. I know of several cases where they have
Speaker 2: stopped people from walking into a situation that they could
Speaker 2: have gotten hurt, or walking into a situation where possibly
Speaker 2: their children are at We think we have the market
Speaker 2: on being protective parents, It is nothing compared to them.
Speaker 2: Their higher energy, higher frequency, which means all their emotions
Speaker 2: are at a higher level than ours will ever hope
Speaker 2: to be. So they love deeper, they get mad harder.
Speaker 2: You know, they're going to be sad. It's going to
Speaker 2: be at a harder level. Is at a much stronger
Speaker 2: level than what ours are. So not seeing that there
Speaker 2: aren't some out there that have been aggressive to people,
Speaker 2: because we know that that's happened. But the point is
Speaker 2: is that not everything they do when they interacted us
Speaker 2: is an act of aggression. I can understand why people
Speaker 2: get scared, one hundred percent. I can understand that, and
Speaker 2: I'm very empathetic to that, you know. I mean, I've
Speaker 2: had him where you know, they've come up. I had
Speaker 2: one that actually ran from the back of my woods.
Speaker 2: I'd walked out there and he ran all the way
Speaker 2: up and then got about twenty feet and just stopped
Speaker 2: and stared at me. And when he was coming through
Speaker 2: those woods, I'm not gonna lie. I was nervous and
Speaker 2: I'm thinking, you know, now he's charging me why? And
Speaker 2: then he stopped and he was fine. I was in
Speaker 2: Texas in the lower part of Texas years ago with
Speaker 2: someone helping him set up a research site, and there
Speaker 2: was a bunch of them that were there that were
Speaker 2: highly aggressive, and the clan leader bluff charged me and
Speaker 2: he bluff charged me. When he came at me. There
Speaker 2: were children there, our children, at my children and my
Speaker 2: friend's grandchildren, and I was trying to keep them safe
Speaker 2: and get them out of there. So I held my
Speaker 2: ground because my only I'm a mom first before anything.
Speaker 2: It's the only thing I was thinking about was protecting
Speaker 2: these kids. And he bluff charged me, and he got
Speaker 2: close enough. I was standing next to a palmeto bush
Speaker 2: that was like waist high. He leveled the palmetal bush
Speaker 2: and went so close to me it blew the hair
Speaker 2: off my shoulder, blew my hair back. So I totally
Speaker 2: get being frightened. I do, you know. I don't mean
Speaker 2: to say anybody shouldn't feel the way they feel, but
Speaker 2: it's not always being aggressive. There are ways they don't
Speaker 2: do anything without a reason. We don't always understand the reasons,
Speaker 2: you know. It's like people get hold of me and
Speaker 2: they're like, Okay, how can I go out and interact?
Speaker 2: And I'm like, quit chase them around. I mean, you
Speaker 2: don't want to be chased. They don't want you either.
Speaker 2: Go out, have a bonfire. Laugh. When you laugh, it
Speaker 2: raises your frequency that draws them in like you would
Speaker 2: not believe, cook some food over the bononfire. Let them
Speaker 2: come to you, or if you're going to go, let's
Speaker 2: say you have them on your property and you go
Speaker 2: out every day, make your pattern the same thing every day,
Speaker 2: so they know what to expect from you. And let
Speaker 2: them work themselves around you. Don't you try to work
Speaker 2: yourself around them. Let them work themselves around you. But
Speaker 2: be respectful. If you know you have an area that's
Speaker 2: all structures, you know that's an area they frequent go
Speaker 2: on the outside circle of it, don't mess with the structures.
Speaker 2: They're a form of communication, and a lot of those
Speaker 2: structures are highly charged with energy, so you have to
Speaker 2: be careful.
Speaker 1: I have a question about that. Let's say you really
Speaker 1: might not know what you're doing and you go inside
Speaker 1: of let's say a structure where it's been over tree saplings,
Speaker 1: a group of them, and you go inside it. Could
Speaker 1: there be potential health issues from that or things that arise.
Speaker 2: That's a yes and no question. Actually for the ones.
Speaker 2: Number one, when they make those arches, if it's a
Speaker 2: big arch, they've used energy to bow it. That's why
Speaker 2: it doesn't break the branch or the tree. It looks
Speaker 2: like a natural bend. It's because they've used energy to
Speaker 2: do that. That energy that radiates off of them, because
Speaker 2: it does come off of them anyway, and that's due
Speaker 2: to the higher frequency and a lot of these structures
Speaker 2: they put energy into it, they help use the energy
Speaker 2: helps to create them. And there has been times where
Speaker 2: you can put you know, little meters in there and
Speaker 2: it'll show you that it's raised. I know people that
Speaker 2: have put light bulbs in and it's turned the light
Speaker 2: bulb on. The long exposure to something like that can
Speaker 2: can harm you. To do it for a short term
Speaker 2: where you're just going to go in it for a
Speaker 2: minute or whatever. I don't see where that's going to
Speaker 2: hurt you that much. It's not prolonged and it's not
Speaker 2: going to be intense enough. If some of them will
Speaker 2: make the GPS. You know, everybody sees these tps around
Speaker 2: and they're like, oh, this is where they're living. No
Speaker 2: it's not. It's cute you think they are, but that's
Speaker 2: not where they live. That's a temporary shelter. Or they'll
Speaker 2: use that as is, fill it with enough energy where
Speaker 2: they can use it as a portal to go in
Speaker 2: and out, but just on a short term to pop
Speaker 2: in and out of that. I don't think you're going
Speaker 2: to have any problems. You may feel a little dizzy,
Speaker 2: if it's really highly charged, it might feel a little nauseated,
Speaker 2: but there shouldn't be any long term effects unless you
Speaker 2: do that on a regular basis, and then it can.
Speaker 2: It's like when you're around them and a lot of
Speaker 2: people there's you know, I'm not anybody special, Okay, a
Speaker 2: lot of people have encounters like I do. But when
Speaker 2: you have prolonged exposure to them. And this is important
Speaker 2: because a lot of people in this field of research
Speaker 2: get very sick, and we lose researchers every year. I
Speaker 2: am not saying it's from them. They cannot put physical
Speaker 2: illnesses in your body. I've had people ask me that
Speaker 2: to no, they don't. It goes against their laws, it
Speaker 2: goes against their coads. But if you get a lot
Speaker 2: of energy off of them and you're interacting with them
Speaker 2: all the time, you can get sick. You really can,
Speaker 2: because it works on our bodies almost like a radiation would.
Speaker 2: And it has been proven time and time again that
Speaker 2: even deceased if you took one of the I think
Speaker 2: they call me guiga counter and run it over them.
Speaker 2: It will set that off. It's because of the frequency
Speaker 2: and energy level that they have. It's them trying to
Speaker 2: do anything that doesn't work that way. Now what I
Speaker 2: normally do when I'm out with them and I've had them,
Speaker 2: you know, get like two foot away from me and
Speaker 2: that energy it felt like a weighted blanket on top
Speaker 2: of me. It wasn't zact. It just felt like a
Speaker 2: weighted blanket and it can make you dizzy. And so
Speaker 2: you know, I just I've gotten to the point now
Speaker 2: where I'll tell them, you know what, my three D
Speaker 2: body can't handle like You've got to pull it back.
Speaker 2: And when they pull it back, then it lets up
Speaker 2: and it's better. So I have tried to be really
Speaker 2: and I fail. Sometimes I try to be really mindful
Speaker 2: when I'm out interacting with them. It's like, guys, you
Speaker 2: know what, I really needed to just pull it back.
Speaker 2: I'm happy to be out here with you, but my
Speaker 2: body is like yours. I can't do it. I'm a
Speaker 2: high frequency, high energy person. My frequency is much higher
Speaker 2: than a lot of people's, although I will say this
Speaker 2: with the energy ship that's going through, everybody's frequency is
Speaker 2: on the rise up, which is phenomenal, but I still
Speaker 2: have a three D body and it just that high
Speaker 2: frequency that they radiate. You know, it can cause some issues,
Speaker 2: but it's not done deliberately, So I'm.
Speaker 1: Just going to talk through something out loud. So you're
Speaker 1: saying that humans, if we can raise our frequencies, it'll
Speaker 1: go up higher to where the Sasquatch are, which will
Speaker 1: allow us to maybe communicate talk to them better. But
Speaker 1: you're also saying that right now our frequencies are raising
Speaker 1: by itself, maybe because of external things that are happening.
Speaker 2: Yeah, we're never going to get the frequency that they have.
Speaker 2: They are so far above us, but ours is going
Speaker 2: to go up. That's why everybody keeps saying, you know,
Speaker 2: everybody's going into four four D and five D. They
Speaker 2: bypass that a long time ago. But things are changing
Speaker 2: on our planet. It's a global thing. It's not a
Speaker 2: United States thing. It's a global thing. And there has
Speaker 2: been a shift that started back in March and it's
Speaker 2: still progressing and it is trying to raise everybody's frequency
Speaker 2: and energy. You raise your frequency, be happy. You know,
Speaker 2: the highest frequency there is comes from your heart and
Speaker 2: is love. So you know, be kind to each other.
Speaker 2: Try to be. We all have days that we're depressed.
Speaker 2: I mean realistically, that's normal, even they do. But there's
Speaker 2: things that you can do. Do the energy work, do
Speaker 2: the grounding, you know, do these things, connect with nature,
Speaker 2: do things that make you happy. You know, the happier
Speaker 2: you are, the higher your frequency goes. Nobody's frequency stays
Speaker 2: at one level all the time. It bounces because of
Speaker 2: our motions bounce. But yeah, as ours go up, you
Speaker 2: start experiencing more. Okay, perfect example. And I've had this
Speaker 2: tried and tested so many different times, and people are like,
Speaker 2: oh my gosh, it really worked. You know. We get
Speaker 2: pitched people that have pictures. I have pictures, I have videos,
Speaker 2: I have all that stuff. And you look at a
Speaker 2: picture and somebody says, look at it. Can't you see this,
Speaker 2: this and this? And then another person looks at it
Speaker 2: and says, that's all paradoia because there's nothing there. Okay,
Speaker 2: that happens to all of us. And sometimes it is paranoia,
Speaker 2: it is, but it's not always. And what happens is
Speaker 2: the person that is seeing it, their frequency is higher.
Speaker 2: When your frequency is up, you start to see things
Speaker 2: on what I for lack of a better term, I
Speaker 2: made up this term because I know one else to
Speaker 2: call it. You see things on a perormal spectrum, and
Speaker 2: by that, I mean you see things that you can't
Speaker 2: see because you're the lower vibration. So when your frequency
Speaker 2: goes up, everything in your system changes, including what you see.
Speaker 2: So when you look outside right now, if you are
Speaker 2: not already four and five D, you're going to see
Speaker 2: things a certain way. Once you go up to four
Speaker 2: and five D and you look outside, you may see
Speaker 2: things that you didn't see before. You may see cryptids
Speaker 2: in the woods, you may see various things. You may
Speaker 2: see a portal or you know all these things. And
Speaker 2: I've got pictures of all these things that you know
Speaker 2: people have seen and are easily able to see them.
Speaker 2: And like, my clients still get hold of me and
Speaker 2: they're like, I'm doing everything you told me to do,
Speaker 2: and you're right not saying this and this and this,
Speaker 2: and then you'll be able to work on seeing an
Speaker 2: energy signature. An energy signature you don't have to see
Speaker 2: the physical being. You can feel pick it right out
Speaker 2: of a photo because it just possive. It's because you're
Speaker 2: at that higher frequency. As we stay in a three
Speaker 2: dimensional state, it only allows you to see so much,
Speaker 2: and that's really kind of what slows everybody down. And
Speaker 2: it's really sad to me because people fight so much
Speaker 2: over these bloody pictures they just do. And even if
Speaker 2: it's a crystal clear photo, you've got half the people
Speaker 2: that will believe it won't believe it. The bottom line
Speaker 2: is the person that took the picture is going to
Speaker 2: know what was there. People with a higher frequency may
Speaker 2: or may not. Like I said, there are photos that
Speaker 2: are definitely Paradoia, absolutely across the board, but not all
Speaker 2: of the ones that are claimed to be Paradoia are.
Speaker 2: And as this shift as they call it, transpires, and
Speaker 2: it will according to the Sasquatch, it's going to go
Speaker 2: on for a full two years. The majority of the
Speaker 2: change will be the first year, which is what's going
Speaker 2: on now. But people are going to become more aware
Speaker 2: of these things, and they are. I mean, I get
Speaker 2: contacted by different people daily and I'm not the only one.
Speaker 2: I am literally nothing special. There's other people that are
Speaker 2: just like me out there. There's thousands of them, hundreds
Speaker 2: of thousands of them. But it does change your perception
Speaker 2: and what you see. It's not a brainwashing thing. It's
Speaker 2: not that all of a sudden you convince somebody something's
Speaker 2: there that it is a physical thing. When your frequency
Speaker 2: goes higher, the more you're able to see and pick
Speaker 2: up on that.
Speaker 1: That does make a lot of sense. There's something you
Speaker 1: mentioned a while back. I don't want to push it,
Speaker 1: but I'm going to just bring it up to comment
Speaker 1: on it. You'd mentioned that something to the effect of
Speaker 1: there were dark things that were keeping things from happening. Now,
Speaker 1: I'm not saying what are those things, but I'm more
Speaker 1: commenting on if there are individuals that are very much
Speaker 1: focused on Bigfoot and you know, maybe talking about all
Speaker 1: the time, and you know out there in the public,
Speaker 1: do these individuals have to be you know, maybe watching
Speaker 1: their back because there are dark things or or yeah.
Speaker 2: I mean, you know, yeah. Unfortunately, that's the That's a
Speaker 2: really good thing to bring up, because unfortunately people don't
Speaker 2: realize how dark this gets. You know, when I started
Speaker 2: out as a kid, they were I didn't know, not
Speaker 2: everybody played with them. You know, I would play and
Speaker 2: they would watch me. That's what we did. It wasn't
Speaker 2: like I was climbing all over them or anything like that.
Speaker 2: They would be within ten to twenty feet and they
Speaker 2: would just watch me. You know, they were there all
Speaker 2: the time. I thought that was normal. I didn't realize
Speaker 2: it wasn't everybody's life experience. When I figured that out,
Speaker 2: I thought, okay, that's fine. I stayed quiet. Only had
Speaker 2: certain friends, you know, and a little bit of family
Speaker 2: that knew about it. And it stayed that way when
Speaker 2: I came into this. By the time I got to
Speaker 2: the Bigfoot research part where I was talking to people,
Speaker 2: I hadn't noticed I was getting followed a lot. I had,
Speaker 2: you know, the SUVs at the dark windows. I had
Speaker 2: various things happen. I got ran throw twice and you
Speaker 2: couldn't see in the car because the windows were tinted,
Speaker 2: and these weird things that I didn't have an explanation for.
Speaker 2: I never tied it in to Sasquatch. I just thought
Speaker 2: it was a freak instant. When I moved to a
Speaker 2: certain area in Michigan, I was there which not even
Speaker 2: a month. The first one showed itself and walked into
Speaker 2: the backyard with my kids when it was we'd only
Speaker 2: been there not even a week. And within a matter
Speaker 2: of months I had four to five helicopters that stayed
Speaker 2: about my house twenty four hours a day. If I
Speaker 2: went to the store, it followed me. And I had
Speaker 2: a very dear friend of mine that was always welcome
Speaker 2: at my house and had interacted there before, and we
Speaker 2: would go to various other woods and go out and
Speaker 2: she was like, they never stopped. They follow you everywhere.
Speaker 2: I said, I know they do. It was ridiculous. My
Speaker 2: kids for a while were frighting to be outside because
Speaker 2: the helicopters never stopped. And this went on for several years.
Speaker 2: But during that time, I had at somebody that had
Speaker 2: contacted me on Facebook just wanting to know questions and
Speaker 2: that nothing, you know, that he couldn't have known. And
Speaker 2: he finally let me know that he was a retired
Speaker 2: police officer and that he wanted me to be aware
Speaker 2: that there were a group of men that were targeting
Speaker 2: women researchers which I hate being called a researcher because
Speaker 2: I've never really tried to research them. I just lived
Speaker 2: around them and lived with them, and that the plan
Speaker 2: was that they were going to bash This is the
Speaker 2: words that I was told, bash these women's head in
Speaker 2: with the lead pipe so that when our brains oozed
Speaker 2: out on the ground. It would make the sasquatch come
Speaker 2: in and then they could bag a big cook And
Speaker 2: so he wanted me to be aware of it, and
Speaker 2: they put the pout car at the end of my driveway.
Speaker 2: My kids had to stay home from school until you know,
Speaker 2: these men were caught. And so there is things like this.
Speaker 2: I've had the government come in and praise my accounts.
Speaker 2: I've had them show up at my door. I have
Speaker 2: been followed. You know, we get into this and like
Speaker 2: for me, like I was never trying to get into
Speaker 2: any type of a club. I mean, I was just
Speaker 2: living my life and they were my friends and I
Speaker 2: would protect them and I did a lot of things
Speaker 2: for them and with them, and other researchers were doing
Speaker 2: the same thing. They were not trying to relieve in research.
Speaker 2: They were trying to be experiencers as well. And these
Speaker 2: people were hunted like animals because they had the contact.
Speaker 2: And for people that can't get the contact, they think
Speaker 2: that's the greatest way to get it. It's not. Because
Speaker 2: at the end of the day, and I've had them
Speaker 2: saved my life, you know six times now. It wasn't
Speaker 2: for them, I wouldn't be here. But at the end
Speaker 2: of the day. Their culture. The laws in that culture
Speaker 2: is they are not supposed to interfere with our people,
Speaker 2: and we are not supposed to interfere with theirs. So
Speaker 2: just FYI and everybody trying to peg off somebody that's
Speaker 2: in the field to be able to get to their
Speaker 2: sasquatch doesn't work. They are going to save their room
Speaker 2: before they're going to save us. And there has been
Speaker 2: a lot of instances where they have saved our people.
Speaker 2: Absolutely have saved our people. And I'm one of them.
Speaker 2: But I had a gentleman in Michigan that was going
Speaker 2: to kidnap me and put me in a cage out
Speaker 2: in the woods because then the sasquatch would come in
Speaker 2: to save me. I can't tell you how quick I
Speaker 2: told them not to. Don't come in and save my ass.
Speaker 2: I will get out of it because they will put
Speaker 2: a bullet in yours. It's really that dangerous of a field.
Speaker 2: At times, it starts out that everybody's just enjoying nature
Speaker 2: and we're enjoying the stick structures, which everybody just FYI,
Speaker 2: don't mess with their structures. It pisses them off, you know,
Speaker 2: be in the area, look at them enjoy them if
Speaker 2: you want to, but it's communication for them amongst each
Speaker 2: other and other clans, and things can go awry really quick,
Speaker 2: and then the government gets involved and you know, too
Speaker 2: much information, and then they're all over your back because
Speaker 2: certain information that they don't want out they've gotten. I
Speaker 2: don't think they're as bad now as they used to
Speaker 2: be years ago, because I think there's so much information
Speaker 2: that's out there that government's backed off a little bit,
Speaker 2: but certainly on certain aspects of them, they've gotten worse.
Speaker 2: But just the basic knowledge of them are having them around,
Speaker 2: you know, we're watched constantly. You know, I've had my
Speaker 2: phone tapped for oh my god, so many years, and
Speaker 2: it's just crazy. And the limits that there are no limits,
Speaker 2: the things that certain people not everybody. Because I've met
Speaker 2: some of the best people I've ever met my life
Speaker 2: through this field, I really have like they're like family
Speaker 2: to me, and I'm so blessed to have them in
Speaker 2: my life. But there's some people that they just are
Speaker 2: They don't care. All they care about is getting what
Speaker 2: they want, and it's like they'll find these areas. The
Speaker 2: bad ones tend to go and hang off by themselves
Speaker 2: and the good ones stay away from the bad ones.
Speaker 2: The ones will go off farther away from us so
Speaker 2: that they don't have to interact with us because they
Speaker 2: hate us. And then people will know they're there and
Speaker 2: know that they're bad, and they'll go to those areas
Speaker 2: because they would rather have that bad experience than no
Speaker 2: experience at all to begin with. The bad ones don't
Speaker 2: go by the laws, they don't play by rules, and
Speaker 2: if one of them wants you dead, there's nowhere on
Speaker 2: this planet you're going to go and survive it, because
Speaker 2: they're going to get you one way or another. And
Speaker 2: they go and they get away from us to avoid
Speaker 2: that contact. And then we go chasing after them and
Speaker 2: go into these areas that we know are bad, just
Speaker 2: so that we can, you know, have that experience. But
Speaker 2: then that what happens is that backfires because now they
Speaker 2: work as a collective, a collective consciousness, which is why
Speaker 2: their people succeed in ours don't because we don't and
Speaker 2: we need to. And so they go in these areas
Speaker 2: where the bad ones are at, and now the bad
Speaker 2: ones know that you're you're chasing them down. That legacy
Speaker 2: is going to follow you everywhere. Your chances of a
Speaker 2: good positive experience is really limited. And instead of getting
Speaker 2: a positive quality experience that will last you a lifetime
Speaker 2: and continue to grow and have more interaction because if
Speaker 2: they like you, you're in like Flynn, let them call
Speaker 2: the shots, let them do it on their time, and
Speaker 2: they will continue to bless you with encounters. But you
Speaker 2: start playing with the bad ones just so that you
Speaker 2: can see something because you don't have the patience to wait,
Speaker 2: and it can turn deadly really quick, and then you're
Speaker 2: marked with the bad ones, and the good ones don't
Speaker 2: w anything to do with either, you know, so you
Speaker 2: just kind of have to decide what you want. I've
Speaker 2: dealt with bad ones, not because I went after them.
Speaker 2: I've been sent to certain areas where bad ones were
Speaker 2: at kind of like a peace talk thing, and I've
Speaker 2: dealt with some of the aggressive ones, and you know,
Speaker 2: there's not anything anybody wants. The one that went after
Speaker 2: me in Texas, I was only there because a friend
Speaker 2: of mine had asked me to help them set up
Speaker 2: a research site. We had no idea how aggressive they
Speaker 2: were till we got there. I told him prior to
Speaker 2: that I thought they were bad there, and he didn't
Speaker 2: believe me, kept saying how good they were, and they
Speaker 2: could have killed all of us, you know, I mean
Speaker 2: I stood my ground when it bluff charged me, so
Speaker 2: he had time to get the kids in the car.
Speaker 2: But things can turn bad in a blink of an eye.
Speaker 2: And you're talking about abilities, and if you're working with
Speaker 2: a clan or you're bothering a clan that uses those abilities,
Speaker 2: there's not going to be anything you can do. And
Speaker 2: they don't all use them. They all possess abilities, they
Speaker 2: don't all use them. It depends on that clan. Some
Speaker 2: are old school, they don't do anything more than mind speaker,
Speaker 2: possibly cloaking, where others have the full ARSL And that's
Speaker 2: where your zapping comes in. You know, when they go
Speaker 2: to zap you, if you walk away from it, it's
Speaker 2: because they didn't want you to die. If they want
Speaker 2: to drop you dead, they can zap you when you
Speaker 2: are done. It depends how hard they do it, what
Speaker 2: their intent is with it. It could be just enough
Speaker 2: to make you sick, to make you leave. You know,
Speaker 2: the good ones they don't want you dead. It goes
Speaker 2: against their laws. They're not allowed to kill us. U
Speaker 2: lessons and self defense. You know, it's just it comes
Speaker 2: down to learn their culture, learn their ways, learn what
Speaker 2: makes them tick, learn what is acceptable with them and
Speaker 2: what isn't because their ways are not ours. They're just not.
Speaker 2: And you know, when I was a kid, I'll be
Speaker 2: the first to admit, you know, I'm a big animal lover.
Speaker 2: When I was a little kid, I thought they were
Speaker 2: animals they had fur or not. I'm sorry to take
Speaker 2: it that they do not have fur. They have hair.
Speaker 2: They do not have fur. It is hair, just like
Speaker 2: we have hair, and so they're covered in hair. And
Speaker 2: I thought, oh, it's an animal. I'm an animal lover,
Speaker 2: that's all. I mean. I'm enough animals. I could be
Speaker 2: a zoo. But they're not. And anybody that is around
Speaker 2: them for any length of time and actually has solid,
Speaker 2: good experiences with them will know this, you know. I mean,
Speaker 2: they can read, they can write, they have an alphabet,
Speaker 2: they learn, they have a thought process. They don't do
Speaker 2: anything that we believe anybody to believe they're animal. There
Speaker 2: are two groups. There are the ones that believe they're
Speaker 2: simply an animal out in the woods and the ones
Speaker 2: that know that they're part human, you know, And unfortunately
Speaker 2: those two arenas don't match, and I had asked them
Speaker 2: before the Genome project what they were because people were
Speaker 2: just fighting constantly. You know. That's the other thing I
Speaker 2: get on Facebook. I don't partake in any of the
Speaker 2: fighting and disagreement because quite honestly, it's not worth my time.
Speaker 2: I know the truth about them because they've taught it
Speaker 2: to me. And it's not about listening to what other
Speaker 2: people say and them being right because I go to
Speaker 2: the source. I do listen when people talk, and if
Speaker 2: I question it, I go to them and I ask them,
Speaker 2: you know. And we have some really top match people
Speaker 2: in this field, we really do, but we don't allow
Speaker 2: them to speak. We don't allow anybody to hear them
Speaker 2: because it's so far out of the realm of possibilities
Speaker 2: because of what we've always been led to believe that
Speaker 2: nobody wants to hear them, you know. And yes, we
Speaker 2: have some people that are frauds. I get that, you know.
Speaker 2: I've dealt with them. I've had people call me a fraud.
Speaker 2: That's okay. I don't care. I have enough witnesses to
Speaker 2: everything that I talk about, everything I teach. I have
Speaker 2: so many witnesses that I don't worry about it. Like
Speaker 2: I said, people get on me too bad. I just
Speaker 2: go out in the woods and hang out with them,
Speaker 2: you know. I'll go hang out with a sasquatch and
Speaker 2: you know, I don't worry about it. But we do
Speaker 2: some really top matched people that have great information. And
Speaker 2: you don't have to, I guess as a turn goal,
Speaker 2: swallow the kool aid, you know, but at least open
Speaker 2: the the mind to possibilities and do more research. Because
Speaker 2: the truth is out there. You just have to have
Speaker 2: a high enough frequency where you're going to allow yourself
Speaker 2: to accept it because it's there. It's always been there.
Speaker 2: You know, they're they're coming out more and more. They're
Speaker 2: socializing more and more. You know. I have a client
Speaker 2: that has now just turned into one of my dearest friends,
Speaker 2: and she goes out in the woods every day and
Speaker 2: every photo she has, they're just all over in it,
Speaker 2: you know, and it's very easy to see and she's
Speaker 2: getting that interaction. You know. I've made some of the
Speaker 2: best friends of my life in this field. And they're
Speaker 2: not believing all this because I tell it to them.
Speaker 2: I simply told them how to, you know, handle the
Speaker 2: encounters and how to work towards getting contact. I can't
Speaker 2: force any of these things they have contact with anybody.
Speaker 2: I don't think anybody can, you know, But you can
Speaker 2: do things in a certain manner that makes it more
Speaker 2: likely or makes it easier. But it all has to
Speaker 2: come from them. They have been so taught and it's
Speaker 2: been so bred in them. How deadly we are because
Speaker 2: we kill what we do not understand. Doesn't matter if
Speaker 2: it's a Sasquatch, a dog men, one of these other
Speaker 2: weird cryptoids running around. I have a cryptid running through
Speaker 2: my woods, you know, over here. I have no idea
Speaker 2: what this thing is. But it doesn't try to hurt anybody,
Speaker 2: so I don't. You know, it's fine, but our type
Speaker 2: of people kill what they don't understand. You know. The
Speaker 2: DNA proved exactly what they had already told me. When
Speaker 2: I went into working on the genome project, I only
Speaker 2: did I didn't even know what was going on. That's
Speaker 2: how out of the loop I am, because I don't.
Speaker 2: I don't deal with all the fighting and the carrying
Speaker 2: on and all the chaos of both camps fighting and arguing.
Speaker 2: I deal with the cryptids, I deal with the ets,
Speaker 2: and I help the people that want to find the
Speaker 2: truth and want to know it, and the rest I
Speaker 2: just kind of black out. And so, you know, people
Speaker 2: they just have to be open to the learning aspect.
Speaker 2: We don't know everything. And when I first got on
Speaker 2: the genome project, I didn't know anything. I didn't even
Speaker 2: know the project was happening to begin with. I found
Speaker 2: out about it because of them, and they wanted me
Speaker 2: to find the woman with the golden hair because she
Speaker 2: knew the truth. They didn't even ever name, they just
Speaker 2: were trying to describe her to me. I found somebody
Speaker 2: that I was talking to who was a friend of mine,
Speaker 2: and she said, oh, I know what you're talking about,
Speaker 2: this doctor melbu Utchum. She's got the say squatch genome project.
Speaker 2: I had no idea. I don't get involved in a
Speaker 2: lot of that stuff. I'm too busy with them. And
Speaker 2: so I got a message to her that, you know,
Speaker 2: for whatever reason, I'm supposed to help you. Don't know
Speaker 2: anything about science, not a scientist. I just know I'm
Speaker 2: supposed to help you. So she contacted me. You know,
Speaker 2: I did a lot of bookwork for scheduling, bone communication
Speaker 2: for different things, and I helped her and I am
Speaker 2: helping her again now. Because we have the Cryptogenome project
Speaker 2: where we're doing dog men samples and things. And she
Speaker 2: asked me one day, she said, you're the only one
Speaker 2: that never asked me what the results are. I said,
Speaker 2: it doesn't matter what your results are, because the already
Speaker 2: told me what they are. And they said, you got
Speaker 2: it right. There's no reason to ask you. You know,
Speaker 2: if you want to tell me, I'm more than happy
Speaker 2: to listen. But I'm just telling you this is what
Speaker 2: they told me. And she did get it right. People
Speaker 2: don't realize how human these things are. You know, have
Speaker 2: them around you all the time, watch and see the
Speaker 2: things that they do. It's absolutely incredible, you know. And
Speaker 2: their emotions are so strong because of that higher frequency.
Speaker 2: I had one come up to me in my front
Speaker 2: yard and he put his hand on my elbow. And
Speaker 2: they do what they call trancing. When they trance, you your
Speaker 2: mind is very active, but your body just you're not frozen.
Speaker 2: Your body just doesn't respond, but your mind's fully active
Speaker 2: and you're where things are going on. And he actually
Speaker 2: came up to me, he put a hand on my elbow.
Speaker 2: I can still remember he had long red hair, remember
Speaker 2: feeling his is It went across my wrist and need
Speaker 2: had come because he asked me to do some things,
Speaker 2: which I did. But every interaction you have with them,
Speaker 2: it's like the first time. Every single time, the thrill
Speaker 2: never goes away, you know. I mean, I've fought to
Speaker 2: protect them from different people and keep people out of
Speaker 2: their areas so that no harm happened to anybody my
Speaker 2: whole life. You know. Now, I teach people, and I
Speaker 2: don't know everything. I am not an expert. Again, not
Speaker 2: an expert, but what I do know now I teach
Speaker 2: other people so that when they have these experiences it
Speaker 2: can be a pleasant one. Doesn't mean there aren't bad
Speaker 2: ones out there. We have to be honest and say
Speaker 2: that yes there are, just like we have bad people too,
Speaker 2: so do they they are a person. I hear a
Speaker 2: lot of talk about, you know, they kill all these dogs.
Speaker 2: I have thirteen dogs. A normal at my house is
Speaker 2: they go into the backyard with the dogs in play.
Speaker 2: I literally let my dogs outside and walked outside and
Speaker 2: had one holding a dog. They've never hurt my animals ever.
Speaker 2: But now if you have dogs running out in the
Speaker 2: woods and they're chasing them and their children and they're barking,
Speaker 2: and they're snarling and biting at them and growling at them.
Speaker 2: They're gonna react, they absolutely are. But if you take
Speaker 2: that same situation and your child was outside and a
Speaker 2: stray dog that's feral came running up, growling and jumping
Speaker 2: at your child, there's nothing you will not do to
Speaker 2: protect your kid. It's not any different with them. And
Speaker 2: there are some you know, we have people that are
Speaker 2: abusive to dogs. I had an animal rescue. I have
Speaker 2: a dog of hit for six years now that was
Speaker 2: abused to the point that this dog can't handle content
Speaker 2: from another human being except myself. He won't even bark.
Speaker 2: The fact doesn't even know how he lived. He had
Speaker 2: so many injuries from what these people did to him.
Speaker 2: You know. So we have people in our community that
Speaker 2: are horrible to animals as well. We can't expect any
Speaker 2: less from them. You know. They use all the animals
Speaker 2: in the woods as pets. That's why you notice a
Speaker 2: lot of people that are out in the woods looking
Speaker 2: for the sasquatch. You find a lot of blackbirds, ravens,
Speaker 2: hawks or whatever circling above. They send them to their watchers.
Speaker 2: They send them in to watch us, and then they
Speaker 2: report back I'll do that was the raccoons. They've done awesome's.
Speaker 2: I mean, the stories I could tell you, I could
Speaker 2: go on for days. I've watched all this, and then
Speaker 2: I've gone out in the woods that they've been out there,
Speaker 2: and then all of a sudden, the deer walks up
Speaker 2: to me. How many times does a wild deer walk
Speaker 2: up to you where you're standing right next to where
Speaker 2: you could touch it, like that's not normal? And all
Speaker 2: of a sudden it would stop and turn its head
Speaker 2: back from the direction that they were at and trot
Speaker 2: off that way. And yet they eat the deer, you know,
Speaker 2: they put them in this trance. They can use nine
Speaker 2: control on them, but they will use kyotes, especially kyotes, wolves, raccoons,
Speaker 2: whatever is out there in the woods, bobcats. They will
Speaker 2: use them as pets. I have a group the three
Speaker 2: that come through here, but once every three or four months,
Speaker 2: they have a cougar, you know. I mean, lots of
Speaker 2: people have noticed them with animals in the woods. You know,
Speaker 2: a lot of them will get these feral dogs and
Speaker 2: domesticate them, and they have pets. They really and truly
Speaker 2: are just they're not that much different than us. They
Speaker 2: have a different way of doing things.
Speaker 1: The connection between them and animals is really fascinating. It
Speaker 1: comes up every once in a while. But there's something
Speaker 1: that I wanted I've been wanting to ask you for
Speaker 1: a little bit. You mentioned earlier about remote viewing. How
Speaker 1: does that come into play and how is that used
Speaker 1: by someone like you who's a Sasquatch experiencer.
Speaker 2: I the remote viewing, I do it for a lot
Speaker 2: of different reasons, not always Sasquatch related. I have helped
Speaker 2: in missing person cases, you know, and that kind of thing,
Speaker 2: and a lot of times, if I know someone well enough,
Speaker 2: I don't just do this for everybody, because I want
Speaker 2: to make sure I never put the Sasquatch in a
Speaker 2: position where they have to defund themselves. Okay, so people
Speaker 2: that I know well and I've worked with them in
Speaker 2: this field for a long period of time will call
Speaker 2: me and say, Okay, you know I'm out here, which
Speaker 2: way are they at? Can you see them? So then
Speaker 2: I can remote view. I can find out where they're at,
Speaker 2: and I've not been proven yet that where I told
Speaker 2: them they were at they weren't, And it just helps
Speaker 2: them get some communication going. Crypted Wilderness the podcast Daniel
Speaker 2: is a very very dear friend, love them to pieces.
Speaker 2: I'm part of the crew for the Crypted Wilderness, and
Speaker 2: he'll go out, you know, and I'll remote you for him,
Speaker 2: and I'll be like, okay, you've got wild hogs over here,
Speaker 2: You've got a rattlesnake coming over this way. And generally
Speaker 2: I'm pretty much right on the money with it. You know,
Speaker 2: I don't do it all the time. I do it
Speaker 2: when it's needed, you know, if I have one of
Speaker 2: my dogs, because I keep my dogs, they have a
Speaker 2: very large backyard that's fenced in, and I keep it
Speaker 2: fenced at all times for them. But occasionally, you know,
Speaker 2: somebody digs under a fence or whatever, and if they
Speaker 2: get out, I'll remote view it's I can find out
Speaker 2: where they're at and go get them. So but it
Speaker 2: is helpful with the if for the people that are
Speaker 2: doing the research or just wanting that contact, because I
Speaker 2: can take a look at the area remotely and say, okay,
Speaker 2: you know, it looks like they're coming in on this side,
Speaker 2: you know. And I usually start and say, okay, do
Speaker 2: you have this and this is in your backyard and
Speaker 2: you're like, yeah, how do you know that? I'm likeael
Speaker 2: because they just remote viewed it. I don't do it
Speaker 2: all the time. I can, but you know, I don't
Speaker 2: want to be intrusive. I don't want to bother anybody.
Speaker 2: So it's usually if somebody has asked me to do
Speaker 2: it that I will. I had a friend one time
Speaker 2: and had asked me, said I think there's something in
Speaker 2: the backyard, and I said yeah, and then I found
Speaker 2: where it was at the sasquatch was at and then
Speaker 2: of course I mind speak and he's like, well, I
Speaker 2: was up on the porch by the window and dah,
Speaker 2: and I like described the porch to this person. I'd
Speaker 2: never been to his house. It was like, oh my god,
Speaker 2: this is too creepy. But yeah, so it is helpful.
Speaker 2: It is helpful as far as to watch the surroundings.
Speaker 2: There have been times when I've been at home where
Speaker 2: I'll get mine speak. And we actually had a situation
Speaker 2: where someone had seen one up the road. We had
Speaker 2: a swamp up the road and we do have one,
Speaker 2: and there were three men down there with guns and
Speaker 2: there was a sasquatch that was out at the back
Speaker 2: of the swamp and they had seen him, and he
Speaker 2: and mine spoke to me. He was in trouble, and
Speaker 2: I said, in bidding and to where he was at.
Speaker 2: So I remote viewed, was able to locate him and
Speaker 2: saw what was going on. So I got in the
Speaker 2: car and went down there, and you know, I kept
Speaker 2: them busy longing up where he got out of there.
Speaker 2: So it is helpful. And you know, I had another
Speaker 2: situation where the South Carolina just barbaric. When they deer hunt,
Speaker 2: they cut hounds loose to run the deer, which I'm
Speaker 2: born and raised in Michigan. We do not run deer.
Speaker 2: That is like taboo. You do not sick dogs on
Speaker 2: deer till you run them into the ground. Here they
Speaker 2: do that quite frequently. And the dogs had actually come
Speaker 2: up on a very young Sasquatch and it was a
Speaker 2: little girl and she was in trouble and they contacted me.
Speaker 2: So I was able to remote views see the situation
Speaker 2: and then I went over there and I got it stopped,
Speaker 2: you know, and they got her away. So it just
Speaker 2: depends on the situation. But yeah, it does come in
Speaker 2: handy sometimes I'm careful who I do it for.
Speaker 1: Yeah, it definitely sounds like that would be a thing
Speaker 1: where you want to be really careful about, you know,
Speaker 1: getting certain information to the wrong people. So it's pretty smart.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm highly, highly protective and even the people that
Speaker 2: I work with, I always tell everybody I'm the safety police.
Speaker 2: You know, they'll say, well, I'm going to do this,
Speaker 2: this and this. I'm like, Okay, before you do that,
Speaker 2: you got to learn how to do this and this,
Speaker 2: because i'm safety policewomen and you need to do this first.
Speaker 2: You know, know your energy signatures before you're talking to things.
Speaker 2: If you don't know how to read energy signatures, then
Speaker 2: we're going to work on that first. Because anything can
Speaker 2: tell you it's whatever it wants you to know doesn't
Speaker 2: mean it's good. Energy signatures don't lie, so that way,
Speaker 2: regardless of what it tells you, you can determine what
Speaker 2: it is, if it's safe or whatever. So we do
Speaker 2: a lot of that. And you know, as far as
Speaker 2: the remote viewing, I don't mind remote viewing at all.
Speaker 2: I've always done it. I didn't you know, a lot
Speaker 2: of the stuff I've done since I was a little kid.
Speaker 2: I didn't again know that not everybody did it. But
Speaker 2: I am very cautious with who I do it for.
Speaker 2: And you know, I would rather tell somebody I can't
Speaker 2: do it so they'll leave me alone than say, okay,
Speaker 2: I can, but I'm not going to do it for you.
Speaker 2: I would never want to hurt anybody's feelings, but if
Speaker 2: I don't know for certain that they are safe. You know,
Speaker 2: when I was in Michigan, I had ten acres and
Speaker 2: I just they would walk around uncloaked on my property
Speaker 2: all day long. That was a normal thing. You know,
Speaker 2: look outside and you see, you know, one of the
Speaker 2: big book kids walking across the yard, and so I
Speaker 2: was like, so careful there. You know, my kids could
Speaker 2: have friends over, but I would have learned the sasquatch
Speaker 2: before they came and say, you know, everybody stay back.
Speaker 2: There was a few friends that I knew were they
Speaker 2: were safe, and then they were able to see them
Speaker 2: as well. There was like four researchers I would let there.
Speaker 2: That was it. You know, I've been protecting them as
Speaker 2: long as I can remember, and they have protected me
Speaker 2: as well. You know, does that mean I can count
Speaker 2: on protection all the time. Absolutely not, because if it
Speaker 2: comes down to their safety or mind, they're going to
Speaker 2: take care of their people first, and that's how it
Speaker 2: should be, but you know, they they're they're amazing, you know.
Speaker 2: I think I look at the things that are gone
Speaker 2: on in my life with them and with all the cryptids.
Speaker 2: You know, I get along well with the dog men.
Speaker 2: I've dealt with bad dogmen, but for the most part,
Speaker 2: the ones that I interact with have been really good.
Speaker 2: They're different than a Sasquatch, and I have to understand
Speaker 2: their culture is different than them, and you have to
Speaker 2: flip over to that. But I had death threats, I've
Speaker 2: been followed, I've had my brakes cut, I've had the
Speaker 2: lugnuts taken out of my car. I've had my bank
Speaker 2: accounts frozen. I've had kidnapping at jumps. I've had all
Speaker 2: these things happen. And there were witnesses to all these things,
Speaker 2: you know, like ninety nine point nine percent the things
Speaker 2: that I talk about, I have witnesses too. If it
Speaker 2: was just I was the only one that knew what
Speaker 2: was going on and I was the only one that
Speaker 2: ever happened to when I was alone, then I would
Speaker 2: think that there's something wrong with me. But I've got
Speaker 2: too many witnesses, and I can't be perfectly normal in
Speaker 2: a mom and a grandma and a friend in all
Speaker 2: these other things, and then this is the only part
Speaker 2: of my life that I'm crazy, and I'm when I
Speaker 2: went through divorce years ago, and he was very well
Speaker 2: aware of the Sasquatch. They were around all the time.
Speaker 2: They hated him. Every time he came near me, they
Speaker 2: would throw racks from the woods to try to hit
Speaker 2: him because he was not a kind person. And so
Speaker 2: when we split his way, you get back at me?
Speaker 2: Is He called the state and said, oh, she's crazy.
Speaker 2: She says she's that she's talking a bigfoot, and my
Speaker 2: kids are there, and they came out the interviewed the
Speaker 2: kids interviewed me and said, you know what, now I
Speaker 2: believe you, Like I didn't believe in this stuff before.
Speaker 2: I believe it now, you know. And I'm like, well thanks,
Speaker 2: you know. And so to prove a point, I contacted
Speaker 2: a psychiatrist. I said, I don't think I'm crazy. I
Speaker 2: think I'm perfectly fine, but just I wanted it documented
Speaker 2: for him because that was his big thing to get
Speaker 2: back and me for divorcing him, and even the doctors said,
Speaker 2: there's nothing wrong with you. Like I talked to him
Speaker 2: and he said, you've got me convinced. I said, would
Speaker 2: you like to see the photos? And he said yes,
Speaker 2: So I opened my phone and shot him the photos.
Speaker 2: He was blown away, you know. So I just I
Speaker 2: don't when people sit there and say, oh, you're crazy,
Speaker 2: that's fine, call me crazy. I don't care because it's
Speaker 2: not going to change the fact that I've had these amazing,
Speaker 2: beautiful experiences. I've had some terrifying ones, absolutely, oh yeah.
Speaker 2: But for the most part, I'm blessed. I really am,
Speaker 2: and this field of research, even though I don't consider
Speaker 2: myself a researcher. I have people that have honored me
Speaker 2: and let me come into their lives and work with
Speaker 2: them on this stuff, and I will be forever humbled
Speaker 2: by that. I always tell them, you guys, give me
Speaker 2: more than I give you, because they turned out to
Speaker 2: be some of the best people I've ever met, and
Speaker 2: they're just such a blessing. But this whole thing is
Speaker 2: this is you get to be part of something that's
Speaker 2: bigger than yourself, and people don't realize that it's not
Speaker 2: about us. It's like with me and the cryptids, it's
Speaker 2: never been about me. I don't need it to be
Speaker 2: about me. It's about them. It's about the truth, you know.
Speaker 2: And I don't need it to be about me. I
Speaker 2: don't care if anybody knows my name or not, Like
Speaker 2: even on Facebook, very seldom you see me even post
Speaker 2: on Facebook. You know, I don't need a name. I
Speaker 2: need them to be able to survive and have a
Speaker 2: quality of life. I need people to be able to
Speaker 2: interact when they have these interactions and be safe. And
Speaker 2: I need people to realize the ones that are dangerous
Speaker 2: stay the hell away from them and going out there
Speaker 2: and thinking, if you piss them off, you'll at least
Speaker 2: get interaction, because you can end up dead that way.
Speaker 2: I want them safe and I want our people safe.
Speaker 2: That's what I need. I don't care if anybody knows
Speaker 2: my name, you know. It's like I am assistant manager
Speaker 2: for the Nebraska Bigfoot Conference and we have such a
Speaker 2: wonderful time and I have people that are my regulars
Speaker 2: that will come in to see me every year. There
Speaker 2: It's never been about me. It's never going to be
Speaker 2: about me. And like right now, I like even your show.
Speaker 2: I'm doing podcasts and things and I just filmed for
Speaker 2: the Flesh Beauty sequels and I've done you know, one
Speaker 2: with Jason Penzie and I feel very blessed and honored
Speaker 2: to have been part of it. I'm only doing it
Speaker 2: because they came to me six years ago and said,
Speaker 2: make people aware of us and make sure they know
Speaker 2: the truth. As soon as they tell me to stop,
Speaker 2: I'm done and I'm disappearing again, because I disappeared for
Speaker 2: over forty years and that was good that, you know,
Speaker 2: because it's never been about me personally, It's always been
Speaker 2: about them. I'm just happy with the interaction, you know.
Speaker 2: But they wanted people to know the truth, and so
Speaker 2: I now when I get asked. There's been a few
Speaker 2: shows that they've flat out said, we don't want you there.
Speaker 2: They're oakm, which means bad in their language, and those
Speaker 2: people are oakam. Don't go there, they're oakum.
Speaker 1: Their information they told you not to go on. Whoa wow.
Speaker 2: Yeah, And so it's their information. This is not about me.
Speaker 2: This is about them and where they want the information
Speaker 2: out at. So there's been a couple of shows that
Speaker 2: I've actually turned down because of that. If they're not
Speaker 2: comfortable with their information there not up to me, you know.
Speaker 2: But they know how to read people's intent. They know
Speaker 2: your intent and your mental state and your heart better
Speaker 2: than you will ever know it. You know, they're like
Speaker 2: a light detector. It's like people will go out and
Speaker 2: tell me they like yeah, I'm like, do you take
Speaker 2: a gun out with you in the woods? Well, yeah,
Speaker 2: I've got a gun. But it's not for them, I said, Okay,
Speaker 2: did you tell them that you had it? Like when
Speaker 2: you walked into the woods, did you let them know
Speaker 2: you had it? Let them know your intent was It's
Speaker 2: not for them. No, they'll never know I have it?
Speaker 2: Are you kidding me? They know before you've left your
Speaker 2: driveway at your house that you have it. You know,
Speaker 2: they are telepathic, they have telekinesis abilities. I'm telling you
Speaker 2: they know. So when you go out and there's nothing
Speaker 2: wrong with taking a weapon, there's things out in the
Speaker 2: woods that can hurt you. They're a bear, they're a cougar,
Speaker 2: they're a bob. I mean, there's anything. So there's nothing
Speaker 2: wrong with that. But when you go out there, whether
Speaker 2: you talk verbally or you talk in your mind. When
Speaker 2: you talk in your mind, they can hear. It doesn't
Speaker 2: matter if you're getting it back and you can pick
Speaker 2: it up. They are be honest, I'm going out there
Speaker 2: I'm taking this weapon with me. Please know, it's not
Speaker 2: to hurt you or any of your people. It's there
Speaker 2: to protect me from predators that wish to harm me.
Speaker 2: You know, they already know that, but when you go
Speaker 2: ahead and you tell them that, it solidifies you as
Speaker 2: being an honest human, because most of our people aren't.
Speaker 2: You know, That's why it's still and bread and them.
Speaker 2: Hairless humans are dangerous because we kill what we don't understand.
Speaker 1: Robin, This, this conversation has been absolutely fascinating. As we
Speaker 1: start to kind of wind down, there's I'm going to
Speaker 1: ask one more question and and this just this just
Speaker 1: came into mind. This is not on on the sheet.
Speaker 1: Have you ever you know, you've mentioned mine speak a
Speaker 1: few times. Have there been situations where or maybe you've
Speaker 1: heard of this where you know you've been getting communication
Speaker 1: and pretty regularly, and then maybe it'll stop for a
Speaker 1: certain period of time and then it'll start up again
Speaker 1: after you know, sure, is that a kind of normal thing?
Speaker 2: Yeah? People, you know, they panic and I get a
Speaker 2: lot of calls on it and they're like, I'm not
Speaker 2: getting I speak, I'm not getting visuals, I'm not getting
Speaker 2: tapping on my windows you know, what people need to
Speaker 2: understand is these are a type of human. They do
Speaker 2: have things that go on in their lives. They have
Speaker 2: work that they do. I mean, they don't have jobs
Speaker 2: like we do, obviously, but they do have things that
Speaker 2: go on. They do have meetings they do, they do
Speaker 2: have training. I had some of the members in my
Speaker 2: group in Michigan. We're going for eight months, and when
Speaker 2: you are used to feeling that energy and that frequency
Speaker 2: from them every day and they disappear, you go through withdrawals,
Speaker 2: I'm telling you, and it was devastating, you know. But
Speaker 2: of course they came back when they were done. But
Speaker 2: the same thing goes on with the mind speak and
Speaker 2: like normally, you know, I'll get it various times of
Speaker 2: the day. They've woken me out of a sound sleep
Speaker 2: because they literally have no concept of what's important to us.
Speaker 2: It's only what's important to them, so they'll like, you know,
Speaker 2: wake me out of a sound sleep to tell me
Speaker 2: something that really could have waited until morning. But there's
Speaker 2: times that you know, a few days will go by
Speaker 2: and you're worried, you know, something's happened. I'll do a
Speaker 2: remote view and see if anybody's in trouble around, or
Speaker 2: I will mentally, you know, through mind speak, say okay,
Speaker 2: is everybody okay? It's awful quiet. And generally when that happens,
Speaker 2: I'll get one that I don't talk to all at
Speaker 2: the time and they'll say, yeah, but they've gone here,
Speaker 2: they've gone there, so it's perfectly normal. They will come back.
Speaker 2: Doesn't mean they're going to be back in twenty four
Speaker 2: hours or less. Means that they will be back, and
Speaker 2: you can always put that out there to them. But please,
Speaker 2: if you're starting to learn the mind speak and you
Speaker 2: don't know how to read the energy signatures, always start
Speaker 2: out with I only want to speak to the ones
Speaker 2: that have a pure heart, because you don't want to
Speaker 2: invite the bad stuff in. And the bad stuff is
Speaker 2: going to find you anyway, but some of the bad
Speaker 2: stuff requires permission, not all of it. But it is
Speaker 2: helpful if you say, if you have a pure of heart,
Speaker 2: if you have good intent, and you wish to speak
Speaker 2: to me, please, do you know, announce yourself when you're
Speaker 2: going into their woods. When you leave your front door,
Speaker 2: you are now in their world. And so when you're
Speaker 2: going out in the woods like that, mentally speak to
Speaker 2: them and say hey, I'm here, I'm with pure heart.
Speaker 2: I'm not here for any own intentions. Anybody that wants
Speaker 2: to interact with me. Ken as long as you have
Speaker 2: a pure heart, make sure that intent's out there so
Speaker 2: you don't get anything unwanted. You might still, but it
Speaker 2: lowers the chances of it. But it is very normal
Speaker 2: to get a lot of mind speak and then have lulls.
Speaker 2: It just like it's very normal if you have a
Speaker 2: lot of activity around your home and you're used to it,
Speaker 2: whether they're you know, leaving stick glyphs on the ground
Speaker 2: for you, or you know, you put a couple of
Speaker 2: toys out and then moving the toys around and all
Speaker 2: of a sudden it goes dead quiet. You guys, don't panic, Okay,
Speaker 2: they do not migrate. For the love of God, people,
Speaker 2: they do not migrate. I get to ask that a
Speaker 2: million times. They don't. But they will travel and they
Speaker 2: don't do it. You know, like and the animal world.
Speaker 2: You know, we have a lot that migrate to like geese.
Speaker 2: You know, they'll go south for the winter. It's not
Speaker 2: that type of a thing. They will send scouts that
Speaker 2: are hunters for that clan to areas where the food
Speaker 2: is more plentiful if they're in an area where it's not,
Speaker 2: the rest of the plan will stay back. They store
Speaker 2: food and vegetables and medicinal herbs and things all year long.
Speaker 2: They get them stored up to go through winters, so
Speaker 2: they can get in their caves underground above ground. These
Speaker 2: old farmhouses or barns that are out in no man's
Speaker 2: land that nobody's into. They'll hould up in there and
Speaker 2: they'll be set for the entire winter. They don't have
Speaker 2: to necessarily be out. Doesn't mean they're gone. They will
Speaker 2: send scouts out to a area that has food. It's
Speaker 2: like people see them in Pike's Peak in Colorado. They
Speaker 2: follow the Alkords. Of course, they're going to the Alcas
Speaker 2: gather together to go up Pike's Peak every year they
Speaker 2: do it. So of course they're going to have the
Speaker 2: hunters for different plans will be there and pick them
Speaker 2: off and take them back. That doesn't mean the whole
Speaker 2: plan's going. I do know of a couple plans that
Speaker 2: will They have two places that they reside in, and
Speaker 2: when the food sources get low in the one area,
Speaker 2: they'll go to the next area and stay there for
Speaker 2: several months and then when that dies down, they'll go
Speaker 2: back to the main one. But they are not migrating.
Speaker 2: They are not a migratory thing. They're also not nocturnal.
Speaker 2: They're out at night only because we aren't, and a
Speaker 2: lot of your wildlife that they would hunt is active
Speaker 2: at night. I've had more sightings during the day than
Speaker 2: I have ever had at night. Doesn't mean they're not
Speaker 2: out there at night. They show up in my backyard
Speaker 2: on a regular basis at night because they wait for
Speaker 2: my dogs to go out at night, and they you know,
Speaker 2: those tous sticks into the fense, so then the dogs
Speaker 2: play with that. I had one that did a belly
Speaker 2: crawl across my backyard one night. The dogs were playing
Speaker 2: with it. It was crazy. But they really and truly,
Speaker 2: they are not nocturnal nighttime. The big draw for them
Speaker 2: at night is because they are more active at night.
Speaker 2: Other animals, if they would eat, are more active. They
Speaker 2: can get into the lakes and get fish easier because
Speaker 2: there's nobody around. It's a time of day that there's
Speaker 2: much less humans out than during the day. But don't
Speaker 2: mistake that to think that they're nocturnal, because they absolutely
Speaker 2: are not. You know, I know some that literally by
Speaker 2: eleven o'clock they're ready to go back home and lay
Speaker 2: down like everybody else. Does you know. I've had so
Speaker 2: many sightings during the day, it's ridiculous. I've had more
Speaker 2: during the day than night. And I've had them come
Speaker 2: right up Like people go out at night a lot,
Speaker 2: and there's nothing wrong with that, and I'm like, I'll
Speaker 2: go out with you, but you can see more of
Speaker 2: a moving around during the day because then it's daylight.
Speaker 2: But I've gone up at night and had them walk
Speaker 2: right up behind me, and my hair is relatively thick,
Speaker 2: and for whatever reason, they'd like my hair and they'll
Speaker 2: come up right behind me and they're patting my hair.
Speaker 2: And years ago, when I lived in Michigan, I had
Speaker 2: my bed right by my window. If I moved my
Speaker 2: god away from the window, they would scream and holler
Speaker 2: and pound on the walls all night long. So I
Speaker 2: kept my bed right next to the window so they
Speaker 2: could see it. I never put curtains up. I've always
Speaker 2: lived in the woods. I don't have to worry about
Speaker 2: peeping toms other than them, and if I don't have
Speaker 2: the curtains on, I can watch them outside at night,
Speaker 2: but I always cracked my window open because I like
Speaker 2: the fresh air, and i'd wake up in the morning
Speaker 2: I'd have bund and leaves braided into my hair. Every night. Really,
Speaker 2: I don't even know how they Oh, yeah, it was.
Speaker 2: It was a riot. I would get little toys and
Speaker 2: i'd put them on the windows still, and when you
Speaker 2: gift things, you know, if you're putting like rocks, feathers, toys, whatever,
Speaker 2: don't put a lot out at one time because it
Speaker 2: overstimulates them and they think it's a trap. So limit
Speaker 2: it to like just a couple things, because otherwise, if
Speaker 2: it's too much, they're concerned. So I would put a
Speaker 2: couple of things on my windowsill, and every morning i'd
Speaker 2: wake up, I'd have leaves in my hair, mut in
Speaker 2: my hair, muddy handprints on the windowsill, and the toys
Speaker 2: would be gone. And it was really hot one year,
Speaker 2: so I put a window air conditioner in that window,
Speaker 2: and I thought, this is not going to go well
Speaker 2: because they're not gonna be able to see them very well.
Speaker 2: The only thing I can think of is they had
Speaker 2: have done a trance on me during the night, because
Speaker 2: I never heard a thing. I never woke up during
Speaker 2: the night, and I got up the next morning and
Speaker 2: the air conditioner was out of the window and I
Speaker 2: found it mangled in the woods, and I was like, Okay,
Speaker 2: we don't want anything in the window, and they were.
Speaker 2: But they would tap on that window every night about
Speaker 2: two am, and they I would hear them talking outside,
Speaker 2: and so I would get up and I call my
Speaker 2: pajamas and my slippers and my golds in the woods
Speaker 2: with them. I did that every night for years, that
Speaker 2: particular plan. It was safe. I wouldn't do that with
Speaker 2: all plans. That particular plan. They were really well behaved.
Speaker 2: And we had one that wasn't part of that plan
Speaker 2: that showed up one day during the day, and they
Speaker 2: were the ones that alerted me that it was there
Speaker 2: and that he was not nice, as they put it,
Speaker 2: and they wanted me to go to the house, take
Speaker 2: for my kids, get in the house. So we went
Speaker 2: in the house and all you saw from one side
Speaker 2: of my yard to the other side of the yard
Speaker 2: were rocks being thrown back and forth. And that went
Speaker 2: on for about twenty thirty minutes and then everything was
Speaker 2: calm and he was never run again. So they ran
Speaker 2: them out. But yeah, you know, it comes down to learn.
Speaker 2: If you really want to be a part of their world,
Speaker 2: you have to learn about it. You cannot do things
Speaker 2: with them and interact with them based on how we
Speaker 2: perceive things and how we do things, because it's completely different.
Speaker 2: And that's really the biggest key to getting along with them.
Speaker 2: You have to look at things from their perspective, not ours,
Speaker 2: because they look at things differently, our words being different
Speaker 2: for them, their laws are different from ours. What they
Speaker 2: consider an okay thing is not what we consider okay.
Speaker 2: And until you become and I don't know everything about them,
Speaker 2: They're only going to tell me so much. I mean,
Speaker 2: I'm still learning. It's a progression. What you know today
Speaker 2: you will not know. To marrow, you'll know more. It
Speaker 2: never stops from the time you're little on up. And
Speaker 2: so it's learn about them. Understand their ways because they
Speaker 2: are not going to change too and what they are.
Speaker 2: If you want that context, if you want to be
Speaker 2: able to live in a space that they may wander
Speaker 2: in and out. They don't live on my property. They
Speaker 2: come to my property. You know, it's like the ones
Speaker 2: here in South Carolina. I don't put food out for them.
Speaker 2: They don't take it. They get, they're happy by the gesture.
Speaker 2: They get very excited about gesture. And they have asked
Speaker 2: for certain things a couple of times, and I have
Speaker 2: given it to them when they have But the ones
Speaker 2: in Michigan, I was by myself. I was not working
Speaker 2: with other researchers. I didn't know other researchers. So I
Speaker 2: was feeding them like two hundred dollars with the food
Speaker 2: every week, and I never thought about ramifications. Now, I
Speaker 2: was very fortunate that group were so good and so kind.
Speaker 2: I literally could do anything with them, they were so good.
Speaker 2: But it doesn't It's not like that all around. And
Speaker 2: when you put food out on a regular basis and
Speaker 2: they start to expect it, they want more and they
Speaker 2: want more and they want more. And I know of
Speaker 2: several situations where they've gotten violent with people. If the
Speaker 2: people stopped, because now they're planning on it, you're never
Speaker 2: going to feed them enough to fill everybody. That's not possible,
Speaker 2: you know. So if you're going to give food, do
Speaker 2: it on a regular basis. Don't make it a regular pattern.
Speaker 2: Don't give huge amounts. I mean, I did it. I
Speaker 2: didn't know not to do it. I didn't have anybody
Speaker 2: to guide me. My group was very good, and when
Speaker 2: I did stop right before I moved from there, I
Speaker 2: didn't get any kickback from it other than a couple yells.
Speaker 2: But I didn't have problems. But I know a lot
Speaker 2: of people that have had issues. So there's nothing wrong
Speaker 2: with even a bag of apples. There's our jar of
Speaker 2: peanut butter. There's nothing wrong with that. Just do it now,
Speaker 2: and then don't make it at the same time every
Speaker 2: single day and the same thing, because then they begin
Speaker 2: to expect it. And just like a little kid that
Speaker 2: wants that, you know, that extra cookie or whatever that
Speaker 2: night before bed, and you have to tell it no.
Speaker 2: You're talking about telling something no that weighs over one
Speaker 2: thousand pounds, has abilities that you can't even begin to understand,
Speaker 2: and can literally pick up a car and pass it
Speaker 2: over the highest tree you can find. It is not
Speaker 2: somebody you want ticked. So you know, if you're putting
Speaker 2: things out, it's okay, just not every day occasionally, you know,
Speaker 2: just don't make it repetitive. You know, like if you're
Speaker 2: going to a national park or whatever and you want
Speaker 2: to give them something when you come out, there's nothing
Speaker 2: wrong with that. But like if you're doing it your home,
Speaker 2: just use good judgment, you know, don't make it an
Speaker 2: every night thing. Make it two or three times a week.
Speaker 2: Or if you are doing it every night, skip a
Speaker 2: night now and then so that they know that don't
Speaker 2: depend on it, because they can get agitated because that
Speaker 2: becomes part of their food source. You're not going to
Speaker 2: be able to feed them enough to sustain him anyway,
Speaker 2: but they get dependent on it. It's like if you
Speaker 2: go to the grocery store and all of a sudden,
Speaker 2: all the food's gone to the grocery store, you're not
Speaker 2: too happy exactly.
Speaker 1: I think that's that's really wise advice. That's something that
Speaker 1: comes up a lot on this show is people aren't
Speaker 1: aware of what they could be getting themselves into. So
Speaker 1: I'm glad, glad you brought that up, just so they're
Speaker 1: aware of what could happen.
Speaker 2: Right, And there's a lot of things. And that's what
Speaker 2: I mean by you know, there's nothing wrong with being
Speaker 2: in this field of research. If you want to be
Speaker 2: a researcher. You know, I applaud it, but and I'm
Speaker 2: not saying everything I do is right. I'm learning, just
Speaker 2: like everybody else. I make mistakes like everybody else does.
Speaker 2: I'm far from perfect, but what I will say is,
Speaker 2: if you're going to be in this field, learn about them.
Speaker 2: Learn what really is the truth about them, whether it's
Speaker 2: something that's easy for you to accept or not, open
Speaker 2: your mind and at least think of the possibilities. You
Speaker 2: don't have to believe all of it. That's okay, because
Speaker 2: a lot of it's going to come when you actually
Speaker 2: see it. But you're not going to get to that
Speaker 2: level where you get to experience it if your frequency
Speaker 2: is too low, and if you don't know how to
Speaker 2: be around them. Not that there has to be a
Speaker 2: certain way, but as far as knowing the background on them,
Speaker 2: knowing what makes them tick, knowing about their culture, what
Speaker 2: they like, what they don't like, how you can behave,
Speaker 2: how you can't behave. You know, it's just like the
Speaker 2: people that are so ski when they're waving their arms
Speaker 2: at them. I don't blame them for being scared. It
Speaker 2: would be scary to see something that looks like that
Speaker 2: waving their arms at them. I totally understand why they're scared,
Speaker 2: but the background on that doesn't is that they aren't
Speaker 2: necessarily doing that to hurt you. They're trying to turn
Speaker 2: you around from the path that you're going on, and
Speaker 2: they're trying to get you to move away. Whether it's
Speaker 2: their children and their families are there, there could be
Speaker 2: another predator there. They could be teaching their kids to hunt,
Speaker 2: and you know, that's another thing. And I just went
Speaker 2: over this on Day Scott show based out radio a
Speaker 2: few weeks ago. Now is the time of year that
Speaker 2: the moms have got the babies out that they had
Speaker 2: during the summer, and they're getting food ready for winters.
Speaker 2: So a lot of altercations happen, a lot of accidental
Speaker 2: meetings happen, you know, be mindful of it. Know that
Speaker 2: they are more active right now. They're trying to get
Speaker 2: ready for winter, and their children are out more than ever.
Speaker 2: I was talking to one the other day and I said, I,
Speaker 2: you know, I told him on the show that they
Speaker 2: need to be careful because you guys have kids out
Speaker 2: and you're getting ready for winter. And he and one
Speaker 2: of them said, yeah, but we're teaching, we teach, you know,
Speaker 2: the kids they're in there that the younger kids are
Speaker 2: teaching him how to hunt. I had someone that I
Speaker 2: knew quite well that used to go to a friend
Speaker 2: who has that had cabins and he stayed in the
Speaker 2: same cabin all the time. And he went there for
Speaker 2: the weekend, and he got there late at night, and
Speaker 2: he knew the sasquatch were in there, and he got
Speaker 2: there later than planned. And what he had done was
Speaker 2: walk right into a situation where there's two adults that
Speaker 2: were teaching a child how to hunt. So he went
Speaker 2: to go step foot in that cabin and they didn't
Speaker 2: want him out because one of the kids were there,
Speaker 2: and they were rocking that cabin and pounding on the
Speaker 2: walls and everything. They had no intention of hurting him,
Speaker 2: but they had every intention of scaring them so that
Speaker 2: he couldn't get out because the child was there. Well,
Speaker 2: all he thought about was the fact that he was here,
Speaker 2: and in his mind, I'm sure he thought they could
Speaker 2: kill him. That would be the logical thing for our
Speaker 2: people to think. But the logical thing on their end
Speaker 2: was never to hurt It was to keep him penned
Speaker 2: up inside that cabin so they could finish doing what
Speaker 2: they were doing with the child. So it comes from
Speaker 2: two different ways. And while we don't always understand why
Speaker 2: they do the things they do, because we're not them.
Speaker 2: It is helpful if we try to learn a little
Speaker 2: bit about them and about the culture and the way
Speaker 2: of life, what their expectations are, some of the things
Speaker 2: that they do, you know, why they do. It doesn't
Speaker 2: have to make sense to us, because it makes sense
Speaker 2: to them.
Speaker 1: Robin, thank you so much for coming on. You've You've
Speaker 1: shared so many just incredible things, and I appreciate you
Speaker 1: coming on. Are there ways I'm sure there might be
Speaker 1: a few people that might want to reach out to you.
Speaker 1: Is there a way people can contact you directly?
Speaker 2: Yeah, you can get holding in Facebook under Robin Haynes
Speaker 2: h A. Y ne As. There's another account that's Robin L. Haynes.
Speaker 2: Please don't use it. I started that account and I
Speaker 2: had problems with it from the get go, so I
Speaker 2: don't even go on that the one that says Robin Haynes.
Speaker 2: You can reach me that way. For anybody that wants
Speaker 2: any services from me, you can reach me at www
Speaker 2: dot Paranormal dash Empowerment dot com. That's my website where
Speaker 2: you can book sessions and that kind of thing. But
Speaker 2: if you just have a question or something, you're more
Speaker 2: than welcome to reach me on Facebook fantastic.
Speaker 1: Well, well, I think we'll we'll definitely be in touch
Speaker 1: over over the next few years. But thank you again
Speaker 1: Robin for coming up. Before we wrap this episode, I
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