Speaker 1: It's nice, Boss Radio.
Speaker 2: Jason. We ran up against the clock. My guess is
Speaker 2: Jason Greenberg, and I am not going to hold him
Speaker 2: into this hour. I just want to give you, Jason,
Speaker 2: an opportunity to wrap up your remarks. Those two, those
Speaker 2: two collegs, just blew me away. I mean, in terms
Speaker 2: of irrational people. I mean, I'm sure they're good people,
Speaker 2: but they just see the world really differently. How do
Speaker 2: you deal with someone like that who wants to deny
Speaker 2: reality or to rationalize reality.
Speaker 3: Well, I BELI you know it's I've been dealing with
Speaker 3: it a lot for the past year, most relevantly, and
Speaker 3: I think all one can do is to approach it,
Speaker 3: not from emotion, but try to reason with people and
Speaker 3: try to reach a shared understanding first and try to
Speaker 3: work from there. I think achieving that you know, that
Speaker 3: first step of the understanding is probably the most difficult
Speaker 3: part of it. And and I understand there's a lot
Speaker 3: of pain on all sides as as concerns this conflict,
Speaker 3: but I think that you know, some some key facts
Speaker 3: have been obfuscated or misconstrued and are being touted as
Speaker 3: as the truth with regard to what happened on October
Speaker 3: seven first, and how it's rares responded. Second, you know,
Speaker 3: I think that we're looking at a war without a
Speaker 3: historical precedent, and I can't find a real corollary where
Speaker 3: one where one country is fighting against a group that
Speaker 3: uses the population to shield itself and hides amongst the population,
Speaker 3: and that's where you have to fight against. It's not
Speaker 3: like we're not like Israe's fighting a country or a military.
Speaker 3: They're they're in an organized terrorist group.
Speaker 4: And if.
Speaker 3: You know, for people like me, I have direct eyes
Speaker 3: to it, you know, I've suffered loss and so many others.
Speaker 3: And that's a point that's I think really important to
Speaker 3: make is that you know, the circles that have been
Speaker 3: affected by this are thousands and thousands, twelve, thirteen and
Speaker 3: fifty or so people being killed as a results of
Speaker 3: the October seventh attacks. There are so many others who
Speaker 3: do have to deal with this just as it is
Speaker 3: on the other side. But it is it's just a
Speaker 3: tough situation. But the same thing is true today as
Speaker 3: October eighth. The war in Gaza would end pretty swiftly
Speaker 3: if the hostages got released, Israel wouldn't really had too
Speaker 3: much reason left wouldn't be able to stand that many
Speaker 3: that much more justification to keep going after Hamas if
Speaker 3: they let go of the hostages. And what that says
Speaker 3: to me is that Hamas doesn't care about the Palestinian people.
Speaker 4: People.
Speaker 3: Let your callers care more about the Palestinian people than
Speaker 3: Famas ever will they only see them as instruments, as tools, as.
Speaker 5: Useful idiots.
Speaker 3: And that's a real tragedy, is that people are dying,
Speaker 3: and I don't know how many more people, how many
Speaker 3: more Palestinians need to die before those fathers and mothers
Speaker 3: and sons and daughters who have lost their families stand
Speaker 3: up and say no more.
Speaker 5: We won't be.
Speaker 3: We won't be used by you, we won't be a
Speaker 3: party to terror, that we won't be caught in the
Speaker 3: middle of this every time.
Speaker 2: But I think, I think that in defense of the
Speaker 2: Palestinian people, they're being held captive by people who have
Speaker 2: some pretty heavy duty military weapons. I don't know that
Speaker 2: I would have the courage as a Palestinian in Hamas
Speaker 2: or rather in Gaza, to stand up and say, hey,
Speaker 2: you guys got to get out of here. I mean,
Speaker 2: they got elected and I think it was two thousand
Speaker 2: and six. They haven't had an election since they are
Speaker 2: ruined by the point of a gun. The only people
Speaker 2: that's going to take Hamas out is the IDF, and
Speaker 2: that will eventually free the Palestinian people. I'm looking at
Speaker 2: adjust a little bit differently. I don't I don't expect
Speaker 2: the Palestinian people to stand up, but I do expect
Speaker 2: the Palestinian people to understand that what the IDEF is
Speaker 2: doing here is totally necessary, not only to keep the
Speaker 2: State of Israel alive and functioning, but also also to
Speaker 2: ultimately free the Palestinians of this terrorist group that is
Speaker 2: using them as human human shields.
Speaker 3: Sure, I actually you know I wanted to if you
Speaker 3: don't mind just one comming on one other things, and
Speaker 3: it actually relates to something you discussing a couple of
Speaker 3: weeks ago, and that was, well, what if you show
Speaker 3: everybody the horrific footage from that day? What if I
Speaker 3: show the show the pictures that I'm privy to would
Speaker 3: that Would that change people's minds? And you know, when
Speaker 3: when I think that callers like who came or who
Speaker 3: we spoke to this evening, uh, you know, they represent
Speaker 3: a large group of people who believe certain things, and honestly,
Speaker 3: I don't think it would make much difference. Maybe it did,
Speaker 3: maybe it would have, you know, sixty seventy years ago,
Speaker 3: I don't believe so today. I think that, you know,
Speaker 3: and I don't mean to overgeneralize, but in a generation
Speaker 3: where you know, first person shooter games or you know,
Speaker 3: the most played video games in the world, seeing gruesome
Speaker 3: and gruciam death is not People are dissensitized to that already,
Speaker 3: and I think it would only spark more conspiracy conspiracy theories,
Speaker 3: which would only serve to muddy the waters in terms
Speaker 3: of what actually did happen and take the focus off
Speaker 3: of what happened. But you know, again, for all those
Speaker 3: people who are crying what Israel is doing, it does
Speaker 3: confound me to think, where is it? Where in the calculus?
Speaker 3: Here is the fact that Tomas is still holding these hostages.
Speaker 3: My cousin is one of these hostages, you know. And
Speaker 3: if they let the hostages go, they made they made
Speaker 3: that point. Okay, they were able to penetrate, they were
Speaker 3: able to take captives. They sent a message if they
Speaker 3: let them go, this will end very fast. That is
Speaker 3: that's I don't please argue with that in the next hour.
Speaker 3: Anybody tell me how that's not going to be true.
Speaker 3: Israel has taken.
Speaker 2: Jason Miley response to that is, let's assume the hostage
Speaker 2: they released all the hostages tomorrow, which would be wonderful, Okay,
Speaker 2: And let's assume that all the hostages that we believe
Speaker 2: are still alive are still alive. And I'm not sure
Speaker 2: that's true, but let's just let's assume they're all alive.
Speaker 2: The numbers who who were taking and not being accounted for,
Speaker 2: don't you think Amas, if if Israel back off now,
Speaker 2: Hamas will do it again, Hespala would do it again.
Speaker 2: This this is I think this is a moment in
Speaker 2: time when Israel has the ability to to really maybe
Speaker 2: put these people out of their misery. I mean when
Speaker 2: I say that has Belah, Hamas and maybe even Iran,
Speaker 2: I mean you know today they were they were cautioning
Speaker 2: net and Yahoo not to go after Iran. Look, is
Speaker 2: it better to go after Iran now before they have
Speaker 2: a nuclear bomb? But then do we wait until they
Speaker 2: get a nuclear bomb and then then beg them not
Speaker 2: to use it?
Speaker 3: Well, obviously we don't want that, but I think that
Speaker 3: you know, if anybody questions, well, why did you take
Speaker 3: out a bunch of a couple of thousand psible UH operators,
Speaker 3: their pagers and their walkie talkies, and why have we
Speaker 3: done this? You know what? What is Israel really trying
Speaker 3: to do? If you ask me, You're trying to force
Speaker 3: Iran into a point where it has to do something
Speaker 3: overtly on its own because its vassals are no longer
Speaker 3: available to do it for it. So in some sense
Speaker 3: we're already heading toward that because you take out the
Speaker 3: legs and Iran's going to have to do something one
Speaker 3: way or another. It's not being provoked by Israel. It's
Speaker 3: simply trying to stop it at the source.
Speaker 2: Right. But what I'm saying, but I'm not sure if
Speaker 2: we're saying the same thing here, is that I don't
Speaker 2: want Iran to have a bomb because they.
Speaker 3: Would attach you to what I agree.
Speaker 2: Okay, And this may be a moment in time where
Speaker 2: they have to take out the leadership of Iran because
Speaker 2: it's been Look, it's been forty five years if you
Speaker 2: go back to the Ayatola arriving in Iran, in Iran,
Speaker 2: and that has worsened the you know, his arrival in
Speaker 2: Iran basically plunged Iran into darkness, darkness now for forty
Speaker 2: four years, forty five years, and I don't think it's
Speaker 2: going to get any better. Jason. I wish you, you know,
Speaker 2: godspeed and safe travels to Israel. And we're going to
Speaker 2: continue this conversation. But I'd love to have you come
Speaker 2: back upon your return, if that would be possible.
Speaker 3: Just reach out to and it's been my my my pleasure.
Speaker 2: Right by, gotcha, Thank you for your courage, Thank you
Speaker 2: very much. We're going to take a break, Okay, I
Speaker 2: want to hear from you. You heard two callers last
Speaker 2: hour who I think we're out of sync with what
Speaker 2: I think, and I think they're out of sync with
Speaker 2: my audience. Thinks Tom and Philippines is in the Philippines.
Speaker 2: He's been holding on. I got Tina and wind socket. Uh.
Speaker 2: If you're listening to this program and you listen to
Speaker 2: what Russ and what Tristan had to say and you're
Speaker 2: not enraged, then you're not thinking. And I think I
Speaker 2: have an audience that thinks six one seven two ten
Speaker 2: thirty six one seven nine three one ten thirty is
Speaker 2: the number triple eight nine nine ten thirty. I'm going
Speaker 2: to talk about this with or without you between now
Speaker 2: and midnight. I'd prefer to have your call, whether you
Speaker 2: agree or disagree. If you're like Russ in Tristan and
Speaker 2: you want to continue and carry their arguments, let's have
Speaker 2: at it.
Speaker 5: Uh.
Speaker 2: If you were as appalled as I am that free
Speaker 2: people as Tristan and Russ seem to be American citizens
Speaker 2: can look at what happened on October seventh, a year
Speaker 2: ago today and interpreted it any other way. I'm appalled.
Speaker 2: Here's the number. There's only one line open, six one
Speaker 2: seven nine three one, ten thirty. Back right after this.
Speaker 4: Now back to Dan ray Line from the window World.
Speaker 6: Light Side Studios on WBZ the news radio.
Speaker 2: Okay, back to the phones. Let me go to Tom
Speaker 2: and the Philippines. Tom, I appreciate you taking the time
Speaker 2: to hold through the news here kind of a couple
Speaker 2: of amazing phone calls that I kind of got. I
Speaker 2: couldn't believe those callers.
Speaker 1: Go right ahead, Tom, Yeah, Tristan reminds me of what
Speaker 1: during my college age years. I didn't go to college, however,
Speaker 1: I had friends that used to take me to Noam
Speaker 1: Chomsky and Howard Zinn lectures and then we'd have roundtable discussions.
Speaker 1: And that asked me the more on what I thought.
Speaker 1: I said, Number one, howards In feels guilty that he
Speaker 1: dropped bombs over Dresden. I'm sorry, but the German people
Speaker 1: got what they deserved. And as far as I'm concerned,
Speaker 1: the difference between the Jews over in Israel, the IDF,
Speaker 1: which also has Arabs and non Jews serving in that army.
Speaker 1: They stand in front of the citizens of Israel and
Speaker 1: will take a bullet for them. The cowards, I repeat,
Speaker 1: the Islamic cowards of Hamas and Hezbollah stand behind men,
Speaker 1: women and children that are Palestinians. That's the difference between
Speaker 1: the two. It's not hard to figure out. You don't
Speaker 1: need a master's degree to figure this out in sociology, okay.
Speaker 1: And for years the Jews have been trying to put
Speaker 1: out an olive branch to the Palestinians. Look, we have
Speaker 1: an ancestry in this land called Israel. It is mentioned
Speaker 1: in your Holy Book at least two dozen times, written
Speaker 1: by I don't know if the prophet Mohammed whomever. It's
Speaker 1: in the Qur'an, the land of Israel, in the Jews
Speaker 1: and at some point they just have to learn, you
Speaker 1: know something, we need to love our children more than
Speaker 1: we hate the Jews. And I think it was Golden
Speaker 1: myy Air who said that. But no, the IDF, the
Speaker 1: IDF has to do what has to be done. It
Speaker 1: is a necessary evil. I hate to say it, but
Speaker 1: there has to be a winner and a loser in
Speaker 1: this war. If they don't, it is just going It's
Speaker 1: just going to be like a wound that just festers
Speaker 1: and festers, infesters. And what your previous caller said, and
Speaker 1: you with regards to Iran, god forbid if they ever
Speaker 1: detonate a nuclear weapon, because they have made it perfectly clear,
Speaker 1: they will wipe Israel off the face of the earth.
Speaker 1: And if that is what you wipe, liberal progresses in
Speaker 1: Greater Boston want be careful what you wish for. Iran's
Speaker 1: not going to launch a weapon or into our country.
Speaker 1: They know that suicide, but they certainly will launch it
Speaker 1: into Israel. No ifs answer butts.
Speaker 2: And for the well. The other to me is that
Speaker 2: the people who run Iran, you know, after I had
Speaker 2: Toola Homoni arrived there, it's a theocracy. So all of
Speaker 2: my progressive liberal friends, and I don't have many at
Speaker 2: this point. But yeah, they're appalled. They're appalled that in
Speaker 2: this country there's not an absolute separation of church at state.
Speaker 2: They're appalled that churches get some sort of a tax break.
Speaker 2: They're appalled that maybe poor parents might want to send
Speaker 2: their kids to a charter school that may God forbid,
Speaker 2: have some sort of a religious veneer to it. But
Speaker 2: they're not appalled the fact that Iran is a theocracy
Speaker 2: and is very close, if not already has the ability
Speaker 2: to produce an atomic bomb. And they're nutjobs who are
Speaker 2: running that country, who believe that if they were to
Speaker 2: drop the big one in Israel, even if they got killed,
Speaker 2: they would be going to Nirvana and the virgins would
Speaker 2: be awaiting them. I mean, that's what they really believe.
Speaker 1: Yeah, And and Maya Angelou said it best. When somebody
Speaker 1: tells you who they are, believe them. Yes, she was
Speaker 1: a very wise woman. And they have made it clear
Speaker 1: since nineteen seven nine, Death to America, death to Israel.
Speaker 1: That's not just you know.
Speaker 2: And I canpigt Satan, yeah.
Speaker 1: Right, And you know, I'm not stupid. I can differentiate
Speaker 1: between an Iranian person, Okay, who's come to America that's assimilated.
Speaker 1: He used to have one of your callers, a guy
Speaker 1: from Brookline who called him frequently. I can make that
Speaker 1: determination to realize.
Speaker 2: I know who you're talking about. Juliel used to be
Speaker 2: a he worked at WBZ and I think you know
Speaker 2: the story about Jaliel. Julia is a wonderful guy. Uh
Speaker 2: And he wanted to get his mom out of Tehran
Speaker 2: and I was able to And he will admit to
Speaker 2: you that I was able through a political connection to
Speaker 2: get her out of Iran. She could get to Istanbul,
Speaker 2: but the embassy in Easton Bull wouldn't let her go further.
Speaker 2: She got to Boston and he brought his mom to
Speaker 2: meet me. Who was you know, thanking me and Farcie
Speaker 2: and holding my hand. And a few months later I said, Julil,
Speaker 2: how's your mom doing? Said she couldn't take the pace
Speaker 2: and she went home, which broke my heart. True story true.
Speaker 2: I swear to God. Jalil was on the front desk
Speaker 2: at WBZ and he's nonsighted and one day he heard
Speaker 2: me and he said, Dan, can I ask you a favor?
Speaker 2: And I've did that. I swear to God. Tom I'm
Speaker 2: telling you the truth. He will call in and confirm
Speaker 2: the story. Yeah.
Speaker 7: No.
Speaker 1: And you know something like I say, I can you know,
Speaker 1: I'm not stupid. I can make the difference between the
Speaker 1: Persians of Iran, which most of them happened to be
Speaker 1: Islamic by their faith, fair enough, but they're not willing
Speaker 1: to commit suicide for a religious political objective. But unfortunately,
Speaker 1: the theocracy in that country absolutely And you know the
Speaker 1: one thing that really did bother me with President Obama.
Speaker 1: It's like Israel begged you not to do a deal
Speaker 1: with them and.
Speaker 2: The money what about the pedal life money that went
Speaker 2: over that was sent over. Well, we don't have money
Speaker 2: for people who have lost their homes in North Carolina,
Speaker 2: but we had money to give to the Molahs in Iran.
Speaker 1: Well, the thing was Biden did the same thing. But
Speaker 1: the point being is that they freed up Iranian assets. Okay,
Speaker 1: And in two thousand and nine when they had the
Speaker 1: Green Revolution going on in Iran, what did Obama do
Speaker 1: nothing to encourage them overthrowing the government. However, he encouraged
Speaker 1: to overthrow the government in Libya as well as Egypt.
Speaker 1: So to me, our roads lead back to Obama and
Speaker 1: the other thing that I do want to rehash to
Speaker 1: the Obama.
Speaker 2: Field all Tom, I don't have any time for rehash.
Speaker 2: We waited a long time. We've done seven but I
Speaker 2: got the news at the bottom of the hour and
Speaker 2: all right, here them tonight. Thank you so much for
Speaker 2: a note of sanity tonight to my calls. We'll see
Speaker 2: how we do on the other side of the news
Speaker 2: here at eleven thirty. Thanks Tom, be well, thank you.
Speaker 2: All right, we'll be back. The only line open is
Speaker 2: six month seven. It just filled six months seven, two, five, four,
Speaker 2: ten thirty. Write it down. We'll be back on night
Speaker 2: Side on the other side. I'm going to try to
Speaker 2: move calls a little bit more quickly. I'm gratified that
Speaker 2: the lines are full here. If they're not full after
Speaker 2: what you heard from those two callers in the ten
Speaker 2: o'clock hour, then I guess you're not listening. Coming back
Speaker 2: on Nightside, It's.
Speaker 5: Night Side with Boston's News Radio.
Speaker 2: Beg you, Dan Watkins. Just's go right to the phones.
Speaker 2: Tina in Moonsocket, Rhode Island. Tina next first up this
Speaker 2: half hour on Nightside. Go right ahead, Tina.
Speaker 8: Oh yes, hi, Dan, I turned in late and when
Speaker 8: I turned in I heard Russ's speaking. Now, the one
Speaker 8: thing that Ruff said that I agreed with is that
Speaker 8: only God can establish the nation of Israel. And also
Speaker 8: the Orthodox Jews also believe that according to the Bible.
Speaker 8: So how can I say this. I'm looking at it
Speaker 8: from a spiritual point of view. I think Israel is
Speaker 8: going to win. But like President Netanyahu said, you know
Speaker 8: those who are going to come after us, who's gonna
Speaker 8: come after after them even harder. So even if Israel
Speaker 8: wins and it's going to destroy everybody so they can
Speaker 8: have peace, They're not going to have peace because they're
Speaker 8: not doing it God's way.
Speaker 7: And I want.
Speaker 8: To say, well again, you know it's the word of
Speaker 8: God and the Jewish Orthodox religion.
Speaker 2: Well if if we if we, if we go by
Speaker 2: the word of God here in America, that we we
Speaker 2: can't have any gay or let's being people because the
Speaker 2: Bible says, you know, men shall not lay down with
Speaker 2: you know, all of that stuff. Look, yeah, I have
Speaker 2: my own religious beliefs. I assume you have your own
Speaker 2: religious beliefs. I don't want to impose my religious beliefs
Speaker 2: on other people. I might try to say to other people. Gee,
Speaker 2: this is what I believe in and invite you to
Speaker 2: you to join me in that point of view. But
Speaker 2: I don't know what your religion is. Dan.
Speaker 8: I also think that a lot of the world Israel
Speaker 8: is not a blessing right now to the world. And
Speaker 8: I think a lot of people realize that what do
Speaker 8: you mean by that?
Speaker 2: What is meant? Tina?
Speaker 8: So in other words, President Netanyaho is living now his
Speaker 8: quest his military campaign as if he was in the
Speaker 8: Old Testament. This is not the Old Testament anymore. This
Speaker 8: is the New Testament, and people to out.
Speaker 2: Okay, So Tina, let me ask you this. Let me
Speaker 2: ask you this, Tina. Okay, a year ago today, you
Speaker 2: know what happened.
Speaker 8: Yes, yeah, I know. I know.
Speaker 2: What should Israel have done in response to what happened
Speaker 2: a year ago today? In your opinion?
Speaker 8: Well, I think in my opinion, because they were so
Speaker 8: grievously hurt and they had a great, big open wound,
Speaker 8: they should have just really stop for more about their
Speaker 8: battle plan. Because right now, from what I've been seeing
Speaker 8: and reading, they are acting now out of their pain,
Speaker 8: and that's why they want to destroy it.
Speaker 2: That's an answer to my question. My question. My question
Speaker 2: was pretty direct. What should have Israel done? In your opinion?
Speaker 2: Should have they just said, Hey, it's been a bad day,
Speaker 2: let's bury our dead by sundown, and let's let's try
Speaker 2: to reach peace with these people who have just slaughtered us.
Speaker 2: Is that what you think? I don't think you would
Speaker 2: think that, But if that's what you think, feel free
Speaker 2: to tell me.
Speaker 8: Well, I think they should have thought more.
Speaker 2: And so what they thought? We've had a year. I'm
Speaker 2: asking you what this is a year? What would have
Speaker 2: you done after you thought? You know? What should have
Speaker 2: Israel done? Just said, well, this is once again a problem,
Speaker 2: but maybe we'll go to the United Nations and we'll
Speaker 2: talk about it. Is that what we should what should
Speaker 2: have we done? After after nine to eleven said, well,
Speaker 2: those guys that flew the plane in, you know, they
Speaker 2: probably don't like us, and they did what they thought
Speaker 2: was right. Who are we to judge them? They killed
Speaker 2: a couple, Well, they killed three thousand people, but you know,
Speaker 2: we're a big country. We have thirty two million people,
Speaker 2: three hundred and twenty million people here three thousands not alone.
Speaker 2: What should have we done? What do you do? What
Speaker 2: do you do with with terrorists? What should have What?
Speaker 2: Didn't we learn what to do with Hitler? Didn't we
Speaker 2: learn what to do with with with you know, killers
Speaker 2: and terrorists.
Speaker 8: Well, the more Israel continues to go on this campaign,
Speaker 8: they're probably gonna win, but they're even going to cause
Speaker 8: more gehrtest more Moreno, you don't.
Speaker 2: I get it, Tina. I asked you the question three times.
Speaker 2: I'm not going to ask it to you again, but
Speaker 2: think about it. Call me back.
Speaker 8: Answer you get an answer.
Speaker 2: No, what it is? When you do get an answer,
Speaker 2: give me a call back. Okay, And I'm serious. I
Speaker 2: respect your point of view. And I asked you a
Speaker 2: tough question and you didn't. You know when you come
Speaker 2: up with that answer, you give me a call back.
Speaker 2: Fair enough?
Speaker 8: Okay?
Speaker 7: All right, Yeah, I still love.
Speaker 2: Your calls, Tina. You know that. Thank you much. Okay,
Speaker 2: let's keep rolling. Sometimes the simplest questions are the best.
Speaker 2: Let me go very quickly here if I can. As
Speaker 2: the lines light up, Joe and Lynn, Joe next on, nice,
Speaker 2: I go ahead, Joe.
Speaker 7: He thank you for seeing my call. I would have
Speaker 7: I agree with Tom, and I'm shocked at some of
Speaker 7: these callers, but I can understand. I would retaliate. Israel
Speaker 7: has a right to retaliate. I mean, there's bad and
Speaker 7: good and all countries. I don't know how Jay feels,
Speaker 7: whether he likes America or not he likes Israel, I
Speaker 7: don't know. We don't hear him anymore. But Israel is
Speaker 7: doing what you're right.
Speaker 2: I have no idea who Jay is. By the way,
Speaker 2: I really don't.
Speaker 7: Oh the guy you mentioned, Jelly mooreris already that I
Speaker 7: said it wrong, you.
Speaker 2: Know, yeah, you know not Jay. I wasn't sure you're
Speaker 2: referring to. Sorry, let's just stay on topics.
Speaker 7: So well, I think Israel should do what they have
Speaker 7: to do. They gave all the branches and Tom, who
Speaker 7: I know is very nice and he's correct. They have
Speaker 7: to defend him. They should, in my opinion, get those people,
Speaker 7: get wipe them out, make them stock killing all those
Speaker 7: people they're having a concert. Dan, you don't do that,
Speaker 7: and just.
Speaker 2: You know again, thank God, a voice of reason here tonight.
Speaker 7: Yeah, all right, thank you, Joe, as.
Speaker 2: All talk to you soon. Thank you very much. Let
Speaker 2: me go to Joe and Belmont. Joe and Belmont, you
Speaker 2: were next on Knightsiger, Right ahead, Joe and Belmont.
Speaker 9: Dan I want to make a statement. I don't know
Speaker 9: if it's correct or not, but if it isn't, I
Speaker 9: want to be admonished. I think that it is better
Speaker 9: to have a big war in the Middle East than
Speaker 9: to have a nuclear war. And also I think Israel
Speaker 9: should take over Palestine and let the Hamas people practice
Speaker 9: a peaceful Muslim religion. I'd like to hear you and
Speaker 9: some of your callers' comments on that.
Speaker 2: Well, you know what, Jujo, Because again I want to
Speaker 2: get to as many callers as possible, I'll leave that
Speaker 2: out there as a rhetorical question. I would agree with
Speaker 2: you that a smaller war is better than a nuclear war.
Speaker 2: There's no doubt about that, and I think that's what
Speaker 2: Israel is trying to do. Thank you, Joe. Bye, Dan,
Speaker 2: be good, my friend. Let me go next to Steven Bridgewater.
Speaker 2: Steve going to get you in here before the break.
Speaker 10: Go ahead, Steve, Yes, Jan I just want to say
Speaker 10: something very quickly. I want to see what people think
Speaker 10: of this. The Palestinians over the years have been voting
Speaker 10: for they first of all, even in the West Bank.
Speaker 10: I understand if they have their way, they would vote
Speaker 10: for homage to be to rule them and be their leaders.
Speaker 10: And it's like the Palestinians, they go and vote for people,
Speaker 10: but they're using them. It's human shields. It's like, aren't
Speaker 10: they kind of making their.
Speaker 6: Own bed in?
Speaker 2: You could well again, you know, there's a lot of
Speaker 2: Palestinians who might have voted for them, and there's hopefully
Speaker 2: a lot of Palestinians didn't vote for them. But yeah,
Speaker 2: I think like in our own election, you know, you
Speaker 2: have an election, whether you're on the winning side or not,
Speaker 2: you're part of a country, and the country decides we're
Speaker 2: gonna go this way, we're gonna go that way, and
Speaker 2: so yeah, we do we as Americans in a real democracy,
Speaker 2: you make your bed. Okay, Now, you're not gonna win
Speaker 2: all the time, there's no doubt about that, but you're right.
Speaker 2: I mean, however, whatever we decide in November, it's a
Speaker 2: pretty stark choice between the Democrats and the Republicans right now.
Speaker 2: To be honest with.
Speaker 10: Your right, So that's what I'm saying. They Clio, you know,
Speaker 10: they're being hurt, they're being killed, but they they have
Speaker 10: why don't they go and try to find a representative
Speaker 10: for their people that are pro Israel and want to
Speaker 10: make peace with Israel. Before it was now it's Tomas,
Speaker 10: before it was the Palestinian authority. They kicked the enemies
Speaker 10: of Israel, which chose chose again with their real intention.
Speaker 2: Don Well, okay, let's see what people. Let's see people
Speaker 2: react to that, Steve. I think it's an interesting perspective
Speaker 2: and it's a point I had not thought of. But
Speaker 2: you know, Hamas, I think it was elected. I believe
Speaker 2: it was in two thousand and six, and I don't
Speaker 2: know if that was a fair election, but it was elected.
Speaker 2: But there's been no subsequent election, and so they've had
Speaker 2: a pretty strong run there and they've died. They've used
Speaker 2: they've gotten a lot of money from Iran to buy
Speaker 2: munitions to dig tunnels onto hospitals and schools. Good people
Speaker 2: we're dealing with here, No, no, all right, Steve, your best,
Speaker 2: Thank you much, appreciate it. Okay, and you get one
Speaker 2: more very can I see get one more in here
Speaker 2: before the break? And to go to Tim and Michigan. Tim,
Speaker 2: thanks for checking in next on Nightsager.
Speaker 6: Right ahead there, I'm gonna kind of rephrase, uh, some
Speaker 6: things that people don't fully engage. Perhaps, go ahead and
Speaker 6: the question. The question is why did Hamas, with knowledge
Speaker 6: and forethought, engage in an endeavor that was going to
Speaker 6: wind up destroying Gaza and the people that they live
Speaker 6: among in Gaza. They knowingly and willingly knowing in advance
Speaker 6: what was going to happen. It's seeming some kind of
Speaker 6: suicidal death wish that they were proposing. Well, and I'm
Speaker 6: talking about I think.
Speaker 11: When you're talking about you know, but I think when
Speaker 11: you're talking about people who either are in fact terrorists
Speaker 11: or who would be described with reason terrorists because.
Speaker 2: What they did to a civilian population of grandmothers and
Speaker 2: grandfathers and young children and parents, the brutality, it was
Speaker 2: nothing short of terrorism. They are of a different mindset
Speaker 2: than you and me. They will do whatever they have
Speaker 2: to do to accomplish whatever goal they think is justified
Speaker 2: by their ideology or their religion or whatever it is.
Speaker 2: They do not believe that there's any constraint that they
Speaker 2: could even during war. You hear the rules of war,
Speaker 2: you know, when there's two armies fighting each other. Uh,
Speaker 2: if someone's taken captive as a prisoner of war, they're
Speaker 2: not assassinated on the spot. They're not supposed to be there.
Speaker 2: Once they've surrendered, they're a prisoner of war. They're supposed
Speaker 2: to be treated, you know, other Geneva Cords and all
Speaker 2: of that, respectfully. But but these people, you know, babies,
Speaker 2: boom boom, parents, grandparents, and yet I see Americans marching
Speaker 2: in the streets supporting Hamas.
Speaker 6: Right, supporting an organization that knowingly, with a forethought, reached
Speaker 6: out and pursued the destruction of the people of Gaza
Speaker 6: and the destruction of the land of Gaza. That's how
Speaker 6: I chose to have happened.
Speaker 2: Yeah, they don't, they don't care. Hamas is simply to them.
Speaker 2: To Hamas, the innocent people of Gaza are collateral damage
Speaker 2: to their their ambition, which is to obliterate Israel.
Speaker 6: Yeah, well, they can jump in the pool and go
Speaker 6: to the very bottom and hit the scratch and sniff,
Speaker 6: you know, and I guess they can just go for it.
Speaker 2: I don't know. I don't know that metaphor, but thank you.
Speaker 6: Well, you know what a scratching sniff is, Yeah, I guess. Yeah, Well,
Speaker 6: if you go to the bottom of a pool, let's
Speaker 6: have scratching stiff. Are going to be a snort again
Speaker 6: water and you're gonna drown yourself.
Speaker 2: Okay, I get now, I get now. It's a metaphor.
Speaker 2: Had to be explained to me. But that's okay, I
Speaker 2: get it now. Thank you. I've never heard it used anyway.
Speaker 6: And in the year's time since, how much has rained
Speaker 6: down onto Israel? Nineteen thousand rockets and nineteen thousand.
Speaker 2: Well, and the other night there were eighteen hundred ballistic
Speaker 2: missiles sent by Iran. Yeah, a country that we gave
Speaker 2: billions of dollars to. Oh yeah, because because some in
Speaker 2: our government thought, well, you know, it's better to give
Speaker 2: them money than than you know that the Iran nuclear deal.
Speaker 2: What a joke that was that? All three?
Speaker 4: Funny?
Speaker 3: Yeah?
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean it's like Neville chamber Chamberlain came back
Speaker 2: with Hitler after meeting with Hitler. We have peace in
Speaker 2: our time. We have peace in our time, said Neville
Speaker 2: him Chamberlain. Yeah, indeed, and end up in World War
Speaker 2: War two. Yeah, thanks Tim, I appreciate you call. Always
Speaker 2: good to know you listening out in Michigan. Thank you,
Speaker 2: my friend. You bet have a good night. All of
Speaker 2: a sudden, I got a couple of open lines, So
Speaker 2: here we go six one, seven, two, five, four, ten,
Speaker 2: thirty six, one, seven, nine, three, one, ten thirty. I
Speaker 2: got Dave in New York and Pagan pepperl got some
Speaker 2: room for you. It's been an interesting hour. We've got
Speaker 2: great calls this last hour, and I'd like to keep
Speaker 2: it rolling. Please give us a yell. I'll get you
Speaker 2: in before and now in midnight. You have the numbers.
Speaker 2: This is this is a matter of life and death.
Speaker 2: It's also a matter of the survival of the world.
Speaker 2: Do we want Iran to have a nuclear weapon? Is
Speaker 2: that a good idea? I don't think so. Back on
Speaker 2: Nightside after this. Now back to.
Speaker 11: Dan Ray live from the Window World Nightside Studios.
Speaker 2: I'm WBZ News Radio. All right, gonna go to peg
Speaker 2: in Peperl. Peg has been kind of a wild night.
Speaker 2: Thanks for calling in. How are you?
Speaker 6: I'm good?
Speaker 4: How are you good?
Speaker 2: We got to be quick. I got three other calls.
Speaker 2: I'm going to get everybody in. Go right ahead. What's
Speaker 2: your taken? All of this?
Speaker 10: You know?
Speaker 12: I taken all of this? Is?
Speaker 9: You know?
Speaker 12: I don't get to hear the entire show because I
Speaker 12: don't get out of work until later on. I wanted
Speaker 12: to call earlier. I was driving and I heard Jonathan.
Speaker 12: I just wanted to call and tell him how Oh
Speaker 12: my god, how sorry I am. You know he wants
Speaker 12: the five people, Jason, I'm sorry.
Speaker 2: Yeah, he's lost two. He's lost two two cave were
Speaker 2: released and his cousin is still captive.
Speaker 1: You know, it's horrible.
Speaker 6: It's horrible.
Speaker 1: And the person.
Speaker 12: That you had on as a caller a little while ago,
Speaker 12: he's a whack job.
Speaker 2: I had two very interesting calls in the end of
Speaker 2: the ten o'clock.
Speaker 12: I caught one of them. He's a whack job.
Speaker 2: Well, you know, I'm not going to disagree with you,
Speaker 2: but so, I mean, I try to have reasonable conversations.
Speaker 2: But the guy before was saying that, well, October seventh
Speaker 2: was somehow a psy op operation by Israel. You figure
Speaker 2: that one out.
Speaker 7: That was the whaf job too.
Speaker 2: It's been a rough night, Peg, thanks for calling.
Speaker 12: I will charge you later a Dan, thank you much.
Speaker 2: Good night. Let me go to David in New York. David,
Speaker 2: you gotta be quick for me. I got two behind you.
Speaker 2: Go ahead.
Speaker 5: Yeah, it's just pretty sickening, David, that twelve hundred plus
Speaker 5: murderers and and people are out there and and and
Speaker 5: the world is silent it's pretty I mean, it's scary.
Speaker 5: It's pretty scary.
Speaker 2: The world nineteen thirties. We saw what happened, David. It
Speaker 2: can't happen.
Speaker 5: Yeah, it has happen to be the same anniversary as
Speaker 5: the Achille Achille Largo Lauro, when Leon Klinghoffer was murdered,
Speaker 5: and the act about eight he was murdered.
Speaker 2: I remember he's thrown over. Thrown over boy though, Yeah,
Speaker 2: in a wheelchair, in a wheelchair, by the way, in
Speaker 2: a wheelchair.
Speaker 5: In a wheelchair, that's correct. And and and and it's
Speaker 5: just sickening to see.
Speaker 1: And you hear the people.
Speaker 5: Talking today, Well, we're ready to wipe wipe them off.
Speaker 5: You get it, you know, just and it's it's scary,
Speaker 5: it's very scary, Dad. And and you have a voice
Speaker 5: of reason and and hopefully the people listen and and
Speaker 5: and uh.
Speaker 2: David, I can tell you how much I appreciate your
Speaker 2: calling in. I needed more calls like you. I need
Speaker 2: calls like you, night after night after night. I have
Speaker 2: friends of mine who tell me I love your show.
Speaker 2: I love your show. Do you have a call? No,
Speaker 2: I don't want to call. I have called you for
Speaker 2: I know you have to hope you'll continue.
Speaker 5: Thank you, thank you, thank you, thank you.
Speaker 2: My pleasure, my pleasure, my honor. Okay, Chris and Brockton,
Speaker 2: Chris gotta be very tight. I got one more behind you.
Speaker 13: Go ahead, Chris, I will be very quick insistent. First
Speaker 13: things first, I would like to invite every liberal that
Speaker 13: has a problem with what's going on out there to
Speaker 13: go and help support Hamas and Hezbola and stand.
Speaker 1: Behind them and let them be.
Speaker 13: Target practice for Israel. Second thing, where is all the
Speaker 13: help for the people of North Carolina that are dealing
Speaker 13: with this the aftermath of the hurricane. Usually there's a
Speaker 13: litany of these celebrities out there, you know, begging people
Speaker 13: for money and for help.
Speaker 2: The people in North Carolina in the in the eyes
Speaker 2: of the celebrities, the people in North Carolina are not
Speaker 2: the beautiful people. Matter of fact, this situation in North
Speaker 2: Carolina is making the Bush administrations the pathetic Bush Administration's
Speaker 2: response to Katrina look actually pretty good.
Speaker 7: Oh.
Speaker 13: I agree, it's just so disheartening. Lean where's Oprah Winfrey,
Speaker 13: where's all these other liberals?
Speaker 2: I'm gonna hear from herm don't don't hold your breath,
Speaker 2: don't hold your breath. Chris, I got one more. You
Speaker 2: made some great points in a minute. I thank you
Speaker 2: Carl earlier. I'll give you much more.
Speaker 5: Time, okay, no problem, Thank you.
Speaker 2: Then, thank Chris John. I got you in. I crunched
Speaker 2: everybody else. I can give you thirty seconds, my friend,
Speaker 2: you're the last caller of the night.
Speaker 4: Thanks and real quick from the calls before. Israel and
Speaker 4: they had their first temple built there of the year
Speaker 4: one thousand BC, and the second temple was built in
Speaker 4: the year fifteen sixteen BC, and the Romans destroyed the
Speaker 4: temple of the year seventy and Islam didn't show up to
Speaker 4: the year six hundred. So the Jews have been there
Speaker 4: for thousands of years. And those were not come up
Speaker 4: to build mushrooms underneathos in Gaza. They were building those
Speaker 4: not for trains. There were thousands of rockets.
Speaker 2: Like you said, Dan, no question, no question, John John,
Speaker 2: you got to call earlier. I'm flat out of time,
Speaker 2: I truly am. Okay, but you made great points in
Speaker 2: the forty seconds I gave you, Rob. Thank you. Was
Speaker 2: a wild night. Want to thank marit to want to
Speaker 2: thank all the callers, even the people who might be
Speaker 2: considered by some to be whack jobs. You're always welcome
Speaker 2: here on Nightside. All dogs, all cats, all pets go
Speaker 2: to heaven. That's where my pell, Charlie Ray is, who
Speaker 2: passed fourteen years ago in February. That's all Your pets
Speaker 2: are pasted. They loved you, you love them. I do
Speaker 2: believe you'll see the beginning see again tomorrow night. I'll
Speaker 2: be on Nightside with Dan Ray in just a moment.
Speaker 2: Have a great Tuesday, everyone,