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<v Speaker 2>I'm Cole Connor and I'm Adam Ramsey. This is where

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<v Speaker 2>we talk, shop, ask questions.

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<v Speaker 1>Tell stories, and laugh some laughs about being creators as

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<v Speaker 2>We love watching too.

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<v Speaker 1>We certainly do. We also discussed the impact adult films

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<v Speaker 1>have had on us, on our guests, and on the

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<v Speaker 1>LGBTQ community.

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<v Speaker 2>So strap on and strap in.

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<v Speaker 1>And here we go.

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<v Speaker 2>Hello, Hello, Hi there, oh hi, good morning.

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<v Speaker 1>You just walked in.

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<v Speaker 2>I was at my house maybe twelve minutes ago. I've

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<v Speaker 2>never driven so fast in my life. Hello co Connor,

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<v Speaker 2>cole Connor. I'm Adam Ramsey and I'm.

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<v Speaker 1>Lorry for asking. Yeah and that. Yeah, so what happened?

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<v Speaker 2>What happened? Okay, listen, all right, I've got a very

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<v Speaker 2>big week. As some might remember, I might have made

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<v Speaker 2>an announcement a couple episodes ago about my big party Axis,

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<v Speaker 2>which is happening at the time this recording. That is

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<v Speaker 2>in a couple of days. I have gym class tonight,

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<v Speaker 2>I have hot talk on Sunday. It's just one of

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<v Speaker 2>those weeks.

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<v Speaker 1>I know.

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<v Speaker 2>I was like, it's just one of those weeks. There's

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<v Speaker 2>a lot happening.

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<v Speaker 1>It's like my week next week is like bonkers to

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<v Speaker 1>what's bonkers? Like I just have like two studio scenes

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<v Speaker 1>because for some reason studios like to give me scenes

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<v Speaker 1>all at once. Yes, which studio say uncle and men? Okay,

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<v Speaker 1>So like men is fair, that's why. So, yeah, we

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<v Speaker 1>have it comes into our guests, so we have guessed surprise, No, he.

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<v Speaker 2>Was here before I was, you guys, he was.

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<v Speaker 1>We showed up at the exact same time. But mean,

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<v Speaker 1>our guest is the man the Legends Reese ride Out

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<v Speaker 1>finally finally ride out?

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<v Speaker 2>There. How you doing now?

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<v Speaker 1>And we are here in the morning. We're here in

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<v Speaker 1>the morning, which we usually are not.

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<v Speaker 2>Usually record in the afternoon.

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<v Speaker 1>I kind of like the parking situation and everything.

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<v Speaker 2>Yes, in the morning, I might this is rich coming

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<v Speaker 2>from the one who's late, But I actually asked him

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<v Speaker 2>maybe like eleven, maybe like eleven eleven is a good Yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>we were going to have him next week, but then

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<v Speaker 2>we had to reschedule to this week because he also

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<v Speaker 2>he has a scene on Tuesday for men and mine

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<v Speaker 2>is on Wednesday for men, And yeah, they could have

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<v Speaker 2>just put us together, but that would have been too

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<v Speaker 2>convenient for of course, right convenience. What's that? Yeah, so

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<v Speaker 2>we know we also almost had him a few months ago. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>so I'm really excited to finally have you. I have

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<v Speaker 2>so many questions. Mister out. I'm here and alive. Awesome, cool,

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<v Speaker 2>that's great, It's a low bar alive. How are you

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<v Speaker 2>doing today? Doing wonderful? Yeah? Yeah, I mean it's a

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<v Speaker 2>late night.

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<v Speaker 3>Last night at hot Rod hosted that and hot Rody

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<v Speaker 3>and Mickey. Oh cool, how'd that go?

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah? Went really good.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, went great, And I got to bed around three

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<v Speaker 3>am at eight Look at you.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, it'll easy when you're sober. You don't have to

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<v Speaker 1>sleep that much when you're sober.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, uh huh. Yeah, that's that's cool. It's true. Where

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<v Speaker 3>do we start?

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<v Speaker 2>I know how there are so many ways we can

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<v Speaker 2>start this conversation.

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<v Speaker 1>We were supposed to have you on the day after

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<v Speaker 1>my gang bang my birthday gang bang, yes, which is

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<v Speaker 1>three months ago now, yes, and we was three months ago.

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<v Speaker 1>We had a little hiccup.

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<v Speaker 2>Do you want to Oh sure, let's just throw it

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<v Speaker 2>up jump in. Yeah.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, we're supposed to film I think it was June

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<v Speaker 3>twenty sixth, possibly or.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, because we yeah, we filmed the We filmed the

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<v Speaker 1>group thing on on June twenty fifth.

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<v Speaker 2>It was after my birthday.

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<v Speaker 1>It wasn't on my birthday.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, well, I guess I'll start it off.

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<v Speaker 3>So my mom and dad first had intercourse and then

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<v Speaker 3>the sperm went into the egg.

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<v Speaker 1>And it was a lovely April morning and journey, the

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<v Speaker 1>journey begau on the roses.

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<v Speaker 3>I didn't drink for three months, and I came out

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<v Speaker 3>on June twenty third, and I was going to the

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<v Speaker 3>abbey's grand reopening and the big party open bar, and

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<v Speaker 3>I was like, I'm going to break my sobriety. And

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<v Speaker 3>then that week just kind of went you know, remember

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<v Speaker 3>half of it. Yeah, And yeah, it was a it

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<v Speaker 3>was a tough week drinking. And that's why I'm not

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<v Speaker 3>drinking now.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, because I mean when we went, because we went

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<v Speaker 1>to London and Madrid together, Yeah, in spring twenty three, Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>like April, like late April May, and you weren't doing

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<v Speaker 1>anything then, so like I had never seen I'd never

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<v Speaker 1>seen this side of you, never seen I hadn't seen

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<v Speaker 1>this side of you, and like I didn't I didn't

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<v Speaker 1>know it existed. So like when you came over to

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<v Speaker 1>my place the night before the gang bang and like

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<v Speaker 1>we had some drinks and whatever and it was it

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<v Speaker 1>was fine. The next day I could tell. I was like,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, we tried to we worked out in my

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<v Speaker 1>apartment gym, like it just like we got to the

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<v Speaker 1>hotel later than later than i'd wanted to, and like

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<v Speaker 1>I could tell you wanted to like keep drinking, and

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<v Speaker 1>I just was like, I was like, you know what,

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<v Speaker 1>I really need you to be like the professional that

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<v Speaker 1>you are. There are gonna be guys that like don't

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<v Speaker 1>know what they're doing at this thing, and I need

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<v Speaker 1>you to like stay together. We can do drinks after,

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<v Speaker 1>like we'll have fun after, but I need you like

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<v Speaker 1>on your game for this.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, you laid down the law, and you know, I

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<v Speaker 3>obeyed it until the shot.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, where's the where's the bottle? Yeah?

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<v Speaker 1>And then yeah, and then I just kind of noticed

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<v Speaker 1>it was like, oh, okay, this is different, this is

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<v Speaker 1>like a little off.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, Spain in Madrid, I was getting ready for Mark

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<v Speaker 3>Henderson's photo shoot, so I had something to work towards

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<v Speaker 3>and you know, not to touch on it much. But

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<v Speaker 3>after my brother passing, the drinking has became a bigger problem,

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<v Speaker 3>and so I just go into a deeper hole quicker.

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<v Speaker 3>And yeah, it's over the years, it's been there. It's

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<v Speaker 3>just the last two years worse. Getting into stripping and

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<v Speaker 3>adult films early two thousands and doing tours and clubs,

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<v Speaker 3>drinking has always kind of been there. There were times

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<v Speaker 3>I didn't after high school. I just have alcohol and

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<v Speaker 3>the refrigerator and not touch it. But you know, you

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<v Speaker 3>get older and life smacksia a few times. But I'm

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<v Speaker 3>taking this at silver with a front, trying to find

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<v Speaker 3>the silver lining in this because I was you drop

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<v Speaker 3>me out of the hotel the twenty sixth. Yeah, And

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<v Speaker 3>then I went to the Burbank airport on the twenty seventh,

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<v Speaker 3>polished off a bottle before I went in around noon,

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<v Speaker 3>and I ended up getting arrested at the Burbank Airport.

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<v Speaker 2>But I was minding my complete own business. So the

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<v Speaker 2>story goes like this.

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<v Speaker 3>I'm sitting there just drunk, you know, around noon on

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<v Speaker 3>the phone, and the lady next to me must have

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<v Speaker 3>I think she overheard I'd do gay porn and she

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<v Speaker 3>had it out for me. But she goes, let me,

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<v Speaker 3>let me camp your phone and talk to Is that

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<v Speaker 3>your wife you're talking to?

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<v Speaker 2>I'm like sure.

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<v Speaker 3>She takes it and she's like, hey, do you know

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<v Speaker 3>your Husband's like he's like really drunk. Did he take

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<v Speaker 3>anything or something? And she's like he might have took

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<v Speaker 3>a sleeping pill. I didn't though I was only drunk,

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<v Speaker 3>and I was drunk, and she goes, oh, I'm a nurse,

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<v Speaker 3>I'm a mandatory reporter. I now have to report this

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<v Speaker 3>because of mixing that with alcohol. So she calls the

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<v Speaker 3>Burbank Police Department. They come over and just calmly take

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<v Speaker 3>me out. I felt pretty cool walking through baggage claim

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<v Speaker 3>with two big cops taking my luggage and then they

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<v Speaker 3>had to handcuff me out on the but ultimately I

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<v Speaker 3>got it dropped. I had to pay an attorney hefty fee,

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<v Speaker 3>but he was going to charge the Burbank Airport Police

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<v Speaker 3>Department with miscarriage justice because there's really no reason to

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<v Speaker 3>arrest me. Yeah, I'm in AA now I'm doing better.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah. Have you experienced something like that before? Like I

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<v Speaker 2>think the term is bender? Is that what it was?

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<v Speaker 2>Was it a bender? Yeah?

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah?

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<v Speaker 2>Bender? Yeah, and maybe not to that extent, you know.

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<v Speaker 3>I think that was probably the pinnacle of a bender

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<v Speaker 3>that I've gone through. Yeah, there's it would usually be

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<v Speaker 3>like a Friday would supposed to be just Friday, Saturday

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<v Speaker 3>would turn into Tuesday, but this was like a week. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 3>and there were yeah, stuff I don't remember. Alexander was

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<v Speaker 3>telling me, you were out there drinking four locals with

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<v Speaker 3>the homeless guy. I thought he was cool, he looked

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<v Speaker 3>like he looked like young gravy. I was trying to

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<v Speaker 3>build him up, you know, and I bought him beer

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<v Speaker 3>and stuff.

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<v Speaker 2>And so you just had a week. You had a

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<v Speaker 2>rough week. I'm happy to see you on the other

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<v Speaker 2>side of it. How are you feeling about him? You know,

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<v Speaker 2>actually actually pretty amazing. Yeah. Yeah.

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<v Speaker 3>The eleventh is my sobriety birthday. So my wife's birthday

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<v Speaker 3>was on the tenth when I was coming back from LA,

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<v Speaker 3>and I felt back because you know, she wasn't with

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<v Speaker 3>me on her b day. So the eleventh, I cleaned up,

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<v Speaker 3>been doing AA and do it each morning at seven

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<v Speaker 3>am except Sunday, and yeah, I have a lot clearer head.

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<v Speaker 2>And like you go to a meeting every morning, Yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>doing in person? Oh zoom meeting.

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<v Speaker 3>I started in person. Yeah, and then it's just easier

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<v Speaker 3>since my schedules so busy. I'm working like fifteen hour days,

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<v Speaker 3>you know, chatting and filming and editing.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh so like while you're because you're on this like

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<v Speaker 1>content trip tour, that's why you're in LA and like

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<v Speaker 1>Vegas and Palm Springs. Yeah, I like the next what month, Yeah, yeah, it.

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<v Speaker 3>Comes out to about a month. I left my house

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<v Speaker 3>on like the fourteenth. I'll get back on the thirteenth

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<v Speaker 3>of October, so a whole month. I'm doing twenty films, wow,

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<v Speaker 3>four podcasts.

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<v Speaker 1>And I guess twenty a month is like it's a lot.

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<v Speaker 1>Quite one a day.

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<v Speaker 2>It's a lot.

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<v Speaker 1>Though my first month I did like one a day.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, and that's a lot. That's a lot.

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<v Speaker 1>It was a lot.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, but if you're a bottom.

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<v Speaker 1>But no, but I wasn't just bottoming. Yeah oh yeah, yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>I was doing it at all. Bottom knew I was fresh,

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<v Speaker 1>I was hot.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, I bottom with the Michael Boston the other day.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah you bottom, Yeah, I didn't know you bottom rarely

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<v Speaker 3>rarely sometimes Okay, well, you know, I appreciate you being

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<v Speaker 3>super candid about this, but I also do want to

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<v Speaker 3>give our listeners kind of a bit of a background

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<v Speaker 3>as well as myself. I want to learn a lot

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<v Speaker 3>about you because I've seen you over the years. I

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<v Speaker 2>For those of you who don't know, Reese's has a

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<v Speaker 2>very funny Internet presence. He's not just about his bicet,

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<v Speaker 2>his bicets sorry, that was the first time I ever

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<v Speaker 2>saw you on person, was performing that song on stage

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<v Speaker 2>at Heart. But I kind of want to get into

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<v Speaker 2>where you're from, what your background is, what kind of

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<v Speaker 2>adult films you watched, and what got you into adult films.

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<v Speaker 2>So tell us a little bit about the creation of Reese.

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<v Speaker 3>Write out sure, sure, Pacific Northwest, actually within a two

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<v Speaker 3>mile radius. I've never left, oh whereabouts. It's an hour

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<v Speaker 3>south of Portland, cool little town. What's interesting is my

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<v Speaker 3>whole family is like, well, Jackie moved away, well just

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<v Speaker 3>like thirty minutes away, one of my sisters. There's in

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<v Speaker 3>my family. You got Josh, Jackie, Julie, Jordan, Jared, Jessica

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<v Speaker 3>and Nick. Okay, I used to be a twin past

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<v Speaker 3>the birth. Jordan was a twin past the birth too,

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<v Speaker 3>and then but we currently have there's two sets of

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<v Speaker 3>twins in the family, Jackie and Julie and Jared and Justine.

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<v Speaker 2>Wow.

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<v Speaker 1>Really that's insane.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, you couldn't do that nowadays.

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<v Speaker 3>It's hard to take care of yourself with just food

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<v Speaker 3>rent stuff like that.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, indeed, I mean, god, your mom must have gone

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<v Speaker 2>through it.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, yeah, I remember when you have the twins, you know,

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<v Speaker 3>like one on each side and right and other kids

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<v Speaker 3>holding on to her crossing the street.

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<v Speaker 1>It just looks like a hazard nightmare.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, So what was it like growing up in that household?

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<v Speaker 3>There was never a second alone, Okay, there's always somebody there,

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<v Speaker 3>no matter what time a day or When I was

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<v Speaker 3>two years old, we moved to the road I live

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<v Speaker 3>on now, just for a couple of years, and I

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<v Speaker 3>moved back there after being with Randy Blue when I

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<v Speaker 3>got a house in seven and then we moved a

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<v Speaker 3>Sunnyside Road where I was going to be Ryan's Sunnyside

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<v Speaker 3>was gonna be my adult name, but.

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<v Speaker 1>The middle name in the street you live on.

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<v Speaker 3>But yeah, complex we lived in it's just this big

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<v Speaker 3>from four to like fourteen ten years. Everybody had families

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<v Speaker 3>because that was one of the requirements a certain income

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<v Speaker 3>and that you had families. It wasn't just single people

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<v Speaker 3>or elderly there. And they had a playground in the

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<v Speaker 3>middle of it, and we just summertimes, you'd just be

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<v Speaker 3>bright and early, wake up and just go out and play.

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<v Speaker 3>You just have interactions with hundreds of kids every day.

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<v Speaker 3>It is wild, really interesting, fun experience and just always

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<v Speaker 3>something to do.

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<v Speaker 1>Where do you fall in line of the kids, like age.

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<v Speaker 2>Second oldest, second oldest, Yeah, yeah.

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<v Speaker 3>And you had an older brother, Josh's older brother, he's

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<v Speaker 3>still around.

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<v Speaker 1>What was your first experience with porn like consuming it?

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<v Speaker 3>Oh yeah, okay, that would have been in the complex.

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<v Speaker 3>There were always playgirl magazines around. We'd find them just

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<v Speaker 3>either dumpster dive and we'd find them at once a

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<v Speaker 3>year they'd bring a giant dumpster for people to get

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<v Speaker 3>rid of furniture or whatever it may be that just

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<v Speaker 3>clutter their houses, and we'd all go in there just

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<v Speaker 3>it just so magical inside there, find the best stuff

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<v Speaker 3>and especially the play voice and then we'd take them

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<v Speaker 3>either in the bush and you know, dry hump the

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<v Speaker 3>fuck out of them at that place too. Someone showed

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<v Speaker 3>me with a sander what it can vibrate and cause,

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<v Speaker 3>m yeah sounds dangerous. Yeah, just an oscillating vibrating.

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<v Speaker 2>Sure, okay, okay, all right.

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<v Speaker 3>And that started my addiction to orgasmine. Oh yes, it's

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<v Speaker 3>one of my favorite things to do for sure. First

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<v Speaker 3>of all, how do you identify it? If I may ask?

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah? Bisexual? Bisexual? Okay, cool, nice, and did you know

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<v Speaker 2>that that's what you were early on or is that

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<v Speaker 2>something you had to kind of come into Well I

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<v Speaker 2>was thinking about that earlier today too.

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<v Speaker 3>It's always a question that comes up, and I've had

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<v Speaker 3>different answers, and it's kind of changed over the years

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<v Speaker 3>and maybe progressed.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I think. I mean even when we were in Europe,

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<v Speaker 1>you were like, yeah, Nick is straight, but Rees is gay.

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<v Speaker 2>That's always been true.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, yeah, Reese is more gay than Nick. But like

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<v Speaker 3>there's been times when I was younger, maybe a high

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<v Speaker 3>school friend, I've wanted to ask can I fuck you

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<v Speaker 3>in ass?

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<v Speaker 2>You know, but just didn't and then didn't get around

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<v Speaker 2>to it. Yeah, then it didn't come up. I told

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<v Speaker 2>him like a decade later.

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<v Speaker 3>And then and he brought it up one night when

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<v Speaker 3>we're out at the at the local speakeasy, and I was.

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<v Speaker 2>Like, no, I didn't. He was like, you remember that

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<v Speaker 2>time you asked to fuck me in the ass.

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<v Speaker 1>Something like I want to. He was like, I want

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<v Speaker 1>to let you who knows?

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<v Speaker 3>You know, when you're that hard on it, whatever age

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<v Speaker 3>we were, you put it in anything, and I have

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<v Speaker 3>put it in anything.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah. Yeah.

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<v Speaker 3>One of my great experiments was to to fuck corn

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<v Speaker 3>starch and water. It's a science experiment. You mix it

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<v Speaker 3>and if you push your finger it goes in.

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<v Speaker 2>If it's slow, make a.

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<v Speaker 1>Like a like a create your own willy.

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<v Speaker 3>Oh yeah, that's alginate.

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<v Speaker 1>You have one of those in my closet and I

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<v Speaker 1>have not done that because I don't my pubes. You

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<v Speaker 1>have to shave your pubes.

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<v Speaker 2>I have no idea what you're talking about. The clone wheeler.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, like you can make a dildo out of your

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<v Speaker 1>own deck.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh you've got to do it, I know, But I

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<v Speaker 2>have to say my view, do you have to?

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<v Speaker 1>I think it's probably a lot easier.

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<v Speaker 2>To get it going. Get a mold and just start

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<v Speaker 2>selling cold Connor dildos. Why not? It's col Connor Cox

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<v Speaker 2>cold Connor cocksh that's good. Alliteration is sexy c c C.

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<v Speaker 2>All right, But go on what we were where we

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<v Speaker 2>were talking about his experience being a bisexual young man.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, yeah, And I think you know everybody has little

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<v Speaker 3>something in them. You know that Kinsey scale there is.

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<v Speaker 3>You can't say you have your one one or the other,

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<v Speaker 3>and a lot of those factors, I believe, as we

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<v Speaker 3>know society, that kind of puts that pressure. It makes

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<v Speaker 3>you feel shameful or guiltful that you're not showing your

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<v Speaker 3>true self. And besides society and religion, I think another

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<v Speaker 3>thing that comes into factor I've been noticing over the

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<v Speaker 3>past ten fifteen years and I'm seeing more so now,

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<v Speaker 3>is now that the stigma of HIV and AIDS has

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<v Speaker 3>been diminished due to medic medications and knowledge about it

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<v Speaker 3>and people being undetectable and not less likely to catch

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<v Speaker 3>it from them from someone who who who doesn't think

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<v Speaker 3>they have it. But that that too was instilled through

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<v Speaker 3>the media and people's minds that you're going.

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<v Speaker 2>To die right if you have gay sex, if you

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<v Speaker 2>have gay sex.

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<v Speaker 3>That's why I think, you know, if mister took me

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<v Speaker 3>on and I could bridge that gap between the gay

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<v Speaker 3>and the straight and show that if everybody straight men, wives,

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<v Speaker 3>was on PREP, they might have a little more gay sex,

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<v Speaker 3>right because that's not stuck back there.

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<v Speaker 2>I might die. You're gonna die, right, you know.

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<v Speaker 3>So that that has helped me also transition into it's

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<v Speaker 3>it's more of a you know, natural thing to do

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<v Speaker 3>and it's just pleasure between each other.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, Like for women it's like cool to hook up

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<v Speaker 1>with the girl in college.

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<v Speaker 2>Right, you know, especially in our in our age.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, it was like never a dangerous thing for like

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<v Speaker 1>two girls to have sex.

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<v Speaker 2>There was experimental and funa and yeah, but that was

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<v Speaker 2>not like it was not viewed that way for men.

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<v Speaker 3>Well, I remember the first time I had male com

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<v Speaker 3>on me other than my own When was that?

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<v Speaker 2>Tell us that story? I want to hear that.

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<v Speaker 1>The first one.

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<v Speaker 3>I don't know if I can share the story, but

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<v Speaker 3>we'll just say there was a penis. I remember the

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<v Speaker 3>com coming out and I was just like it was

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<v Speaker 3>afraid to get it near me. But that's obviously changed

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<v Speaker 3>due to in part what I've just mentioned, right, So

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<v Speaker 3>people I believe still have that deeply in them.

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<v Speaker 2>So then when did you start being in adult films?

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<v Speaker 2>When did that journey begin?

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<v Speaker 3>I was doing a bodybuilding show in Washington State around

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<v Speaker 3>what year would this be? I was twenty okay, I'm

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<v Speaker 3>forty one now, okay, yeah, it was like two thousand

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<v Speaker 3>and like three, I think it was three, And there

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<v Speaker 3>was a scout there who's alsoographer, and then he somehow

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<v Speaker 3>got my name from seeing me on stage. I was

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<v Speaker 3>still living at my parents' house and I got a

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<v Speaker 3>phone call. He called me up and said he did

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<v Speaker 3>Playgirl magazine and that was like, you know, everybody knows

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<v Speaker 3>that it's a resshold name. Yes, So I was like, yeah,

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<v Speaker 3>he got me down. I started out with photos, body,

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<v Speaker 3>solo solo videos.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 3>Is Ron Lloyd really great photographer? He shot on film,

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<v Speaker 3>so when I shot about twenty one is I think

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<v Speaker 3>when I finally got out to the end of Washington

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<v Speaker 3>where he was, they didn't come out for a bit

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<v Speaker 3>because they had to develop them, and then it finally

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<v Speaker 3>gotten the magazine's mandate to Torso freshman Hancho. He didn't

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<v Speaker 3>get me on Playgirl. I did eventually get on the

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<v Speaker 3>cover with Greg Wiener. That was like eighth nine.

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<v Speaker 2>For you as Reese ride Out at that point, was

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<v Speaker 2>that name in use or not yet? Yeah? It was

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<v Speaker 2>Reese ride Out.

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<v Speaker 3>Ron's actually the one that helped come up with Reese

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<v Speaker 3>ride Out. He had an old classmate the last name

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<v Speaker 3>was right out and he must have had a crush

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<v Speaker 3>or just loved the name. And then we rolled with

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<v Speaker 3>a first name that also started with R because that's

429
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<v Speaker 3>always good for an adult.

430
00:21:03.039 --> 00:21:04.519
<v Speaker 2>Alliteration comes back.

431
00:21:04.640 --> 00:21:10.319
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, Okay, it's memorable and memorable what's alliteration when when.

432
00:21:12.000 --> 00:21:16.359
<v Speaker 3>Cole I'm picking it up, picking up the literation. Okay,

433
00:21:16.480 --> 00:21:19.079
<v Speaker 3>I don't think I've heard that term before. When literally

434
00:21:19.519 --> 00:21:19.920
<v Speaker 3>fucking it.

435
00:21:22.319 --> 00:21:22.440
<v Speaker 1>All?

436
00:21:22.519 --> 00:21:24.039
<v Speaker 2>Right, So you were on the cover of Playgirl with

437
00:21:24.039 --> 00:21:26.279
<v Speaker 2>Greg Wiener. I'm definitely gonna look that up see if

438
00:21:26.279 --> 00:21:27.039
<v Speaker 2>I can find it.

439
00:21:27.319 --> 00:21:30.119
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, it was a college edition and we went out

440
00:21:30.160 --> 00:21:32.599
<v Speaker 3>to New Mexico to shoot it. I thought that was

441
00:21:32.680 --> 00:21:35.359
<v Speaker 3>going to be my break because the whole reason I

442
00:21:35.440 --> 00:21:37.599
<v Speaker 3>kind of I got into the industry in the beginning

443
00:21:37.759 --> 00:21:39.319
<v Speaker 3>was to get down to La. This poor kid that

444
00:21:39.359 --> 00:21:41.480
<v Speaker 3>wanted to go down to La meet people to get

445
00:21:41.480 --> 00:21:44.200
<v Speaker 3>in the acting world because my brother got a VHS

446
00:21:44.240 --> 00:21:46.279
<v Speaker 3>camera when I was twelve and we'd always film movies

447
00:21:46.279 --> 00:21:49.079
<v Speaker 3>over the summer, and that's just always what I've wanted

448
00:21:49.119 --> 00:21:49.400
<v Speaker 3>to do.

449
00:21:49.640 --> 00:21:50.319
<v Speaker 2>So it got me there.

450
00:21:50.519 --> 00:21:53.920
<v Speaker 3>Steven Spielberg, Yeah, yeah, yeah, Super eight.

451
00:21:55.519 --> 00:21:57.119
<v Speaker 2>I'm trying. I got the VHS.

452
00:21:57.119 --> 00:22:00.279
<v Speaker 3>I need to go through them, but they were sitting

453
00:22:00.279 --> 00:22:02.839
<v Speaker 3>outside in my parents' house. But got down and met

454
00:22:02.839 --> 00:22:04.519
<v Speaker 3>a lot of people, and I know it's hindered my

455
00:22:04.680 --> 00:22:07.839
<v Speaker 3>abilities in that in that realm over the years. Yet

456
00:22:07.880 --> 00:22:10.240
<v Speaker 3>I do have a great group of people in where

457
00:22:10.279 --> 00:22:15.400
<v Speaker 3>I live the directors, producers, actors, actresses, writers. So we're

458
00:22:15.400 --> 00:22:17.960
<v Speaker 3>working on stuff. So we don't need Hollywood to say

459
00:22:17.960 --> 00:22:20.440
<v Speaker 3>you can't come in and play with us, because we

460
00:22:20.480 --> 00:22:22.319
<v Speaker 3>want to play with you behind closed doors, but.

461
00:22:22.839 --> 00:22:26.039
<v Speaker 2>Not now in the public. Gotcha. So when did you

462
00:22:26.160 --> 00:22:29.039
<v Speaker 2>have gay butt sex on camera for the first time?

463
00:22:30.559 --> 00:22:30.839
<v Speaker 2>It was.

464
00:22:32.359 --> 00:22:35.079
<v Speaker 1>The first time was the first time you did it

465
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<v Speaker 1>on camera? The first actual time that you did it?

466
00:22:38.200 --> 00:22:40.640
<v Speaker 2>It was yeah, yeah, yeah, because it was not that

467
00:22:40.759 --> 00:22:43.519
<v Speaker 2>be crazy. So you know, obviously we have we have

468
00:22:43.559 --> 00:22:46.920
<v Speaker 2>a variety of guests on this show, mostly they're gay performers.

469
00:22:47.240 --> 00:22:50.119
<v Speaker 2>So I think I would love to listen and I

470
00:22:50.119 --> 00:22:52.279
<v Speaker 2>think our listeners would love to listen to what that

471
00:22:52.359 --> 00:22:54.960
<v Speaker 2>process was like to make that decision as somebody who

472
00:22:55.039 --> 00:22:58.279
<v Speaker 2>was maybe bisexual, maybe hetero flexible. What made you think

473
00:22:58.319 --> 00:23:00.200
<v Speaker 2>I'm not going to get into straight porn, I'm going

474
00:23:00.200 --> 00:23:03.119
<v Speaker 2>to have sex with men on camera. We're gonna take

475
00:23:03.160 --> 00:23:04.240
<v Speaker 2>this dive because.

476
00:23:04.000 --> 00:23:07.559
<v Speaker 1>At the time you identified as a straight man? Yeah, yeah, yeah,

477
00:23:07.640 --> 00:23:10.039
<v Speaker 1>what what makes us straight led to that decision?

478
00:23:10.599 --> 00:23:11.400
<v Speaker 2>Make that decision?

479
00:23:11.480 --> 00:23:15.279
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, magazines once they came out studios, you know, saw

480
00:23:15.279 --> 00:23:18.720
<v Speaker 3>the saw circulating and then they're reaching out and getting

481
00:23:18.720 --> 00:23:21.119
<v Speaker 3>a hold of me anyway they could. I went out

482
00:23:21.160 --> 00:23:24.200
<v Speaker 3>to d C to do I flew up by myself

483
00:23:24.240 --> 00:23:27.599
<v Speaker 3>with mighty men and so I as technically the first

484
00:23:27.599 --> 00:23:29.720
<v Speaker 3>time I was with the guy, but not sex. They

485
00:23:29.920 --> 00:23:32.920
<v Speaker 3>just sucking, sucking each other off. Flying back, I felt

486
00:23:32.920 --> 00:23:37.400
<v Speaker 3>so so shameful coming back on the airplane. I made

487
00:23:37.400 --> 00:23:39.640
<v Speaker 3>my fifteen hundred bucks, but I.

488
00:23:39.759 --> 00:23:40.440
<v Speaker 2>Just I don't know.

489
00:23:41.319 --> 00:23:46.319
<v Speaker 3>Then I got a phone call from Randy at Randy Blue.

490
00:23:46.559 --> 00:23:49.839
<v Speaker 3>This is around five after they saw magazines, and I

491
00:23:49.880 --> 00:23:52.359
<v Speaker 3>was also on the phone with a recruiter from Davan

492
00:23:52.400 --> 00:23:56.119
<v Speaker 3>corbyin Fisher. Dino was one of the recruiters during the time,

493
00:23:56.839 --> 00:23:58.839
<v Speaker 3>and I was back and forth that week, but I

494
00:23:58.920 --> 00:24:01.319
<v Speaker 3>just had a really good feeling form from Randy. With

495
00:24:01.440 --> 00:24:04.359
<v Speaker 3>Randy Blue, I went with them, went down and so

496
00:24:04.440 --> 00:24:06.720
<v Speaker 3>you first, this is how you start out. You you

497
00:24:06.759 --> 00:24:08.960
<v Speaker 3>do a j O and then that's jerk off for

498
00:24:09.039 --> 00:24:14.799
<v Speaker 3>the moms, a jerk off, and then somebody sucks you.

499
00:24:16.160 --> 00:24:19.559
<v Speaker 3>Then you get sucked, Then you put a toy up

500
00:24:19.599 --> 00:24:23.680
<v Speaker 3>your butt, then you fuck a guy, then you get fucked.

501
00:24:23.720 --> 00:24:28.039
<v Speaker 3>It's down the slippery slope. So is a progression, and

502
00:24:28.079 --> 00:24:30.240
<v Speaker 3>then the money, would you know, gradually.

503
00:24:30.119 --> 00:24:33.839
<v Speaker 1>Go up and the fuckings all with condoms.

504
00:24:33.920 --> 00:24:34.119
<v Speaker 2>Yeah.

505
00:24:34.440 --> 00:24:37.680
<v Speaker 1>So now like it's like like we were saying in

506
00:24:37.720 --> 00:24:40.160
<v Speaker 1>one of our recent episodes about the straight guys that

507
00:24:40.200 --> 00:24:43.200
<v Speaker 1>do only fans, Like it's like a strategy. And then

508
00:24:43.319 --> 00:24:44.799
<v Speaker 1>like the last thing is bareback.

509
00:24:44.960 --> 00:24:49.119
<v Speaker 2>Sure, Okay, how did you like, were you enjoying it

510
00:24:49.279 --> 00:24:53.880
<v Speaker 2>or were you like, was it just work? It felt good?

511
00:24:53.920 --> 00:24:54.119
<v Speaker 1>I was.

512
00:24:54.160 --> 00:24:57.160
<v Speaker 3>I'm really good with imagining what I want in my brain.

513
00:24:57.680 --> 00:24:59.799
<v Speaker 3>So that's and you got to be when you're doing

514
00:25:00.160 --> 00:25:03.279
<v Speaker 3>adult films because there's so much stuff going on, and

515
00:25:03.319 --> 00:25:06.440
<v Speaker 3>there's times where it's something there may not be chemistry

516
00:25:06.720 --> 00:25:09.839
<v Speaker 3>right to the you know degree, So you got to

517
00:25:09.839 --> 00:25:12.480
<v Speaker 3>pull it from somewhere and I can just throw myself

518
00:25:12.519 --> 00:25:14.799
<v Speaker 3>like I'm not even there. I'll look like I'm there,

519
00:25:15.319 --> 00:25:16.440
<v Speaker 3>but I'm somewhere else.

520
00:25:16.559 --> 00:25:19.319
<v Speaker 2>That's what makes you a good performer. I mean no, Yeah,

521
00:25:19.319 --> 00:25:21.720
<v Speaker 2>we talk about this a lot, where like we kind

522
00:25:21.720 --> 00:25:24.559
<v Speaker 2>of have these mental places that we go in order

523
00:25:24.599 --> 00:25:29.400
<v Speaker 2>to make ourselves look like we are super into it. Obviously,

524
00:25:29.440 --> 00:25:31.799
<v Speaker 2>like whether there's chemistry or not, it's still a lot

525
00:25:31.799 --> 00:25:35.160
<v Speaker 2>of pressure to orgasm on camera. Yes, so all the

526
00:25:35.200 --> 00:25:36.119
<v Speaker 2>last ones.

527
00:25:38.640 --> 00:25:40.240
<v Speaker 1>And everybody wants to go home.

528
00:25:40.119 --> 00:25:41.960
<v Speaker 2>And I've Also, I've also noticed, I don't know if

529
00:25:42.000 --> 00:25:44.240
<v Speaker 2>you've noticed, a lot of studios lately have been a

530
00:25:44.240 --> 00:25:48.480
<v Speaker 2>lot less pressuring people to finish, whereas before it was

531
00:25:48.559 --> 00:25:51.119
<v Speaker 2>like if you don't finish paid, you don't get at

532
00:25:51.240 --> 00:25:53.240
<v Speaker 2>least the full amount for sure. They call it a

533
00:25:53.279 --> 00:25:55.920
<v Speaker 2>money shop for a reason for real.

534
00:25:56.680 --> 00:26:00.720
<v Speaker 1>So it's interesting, yeah, because now that's so probably that

535
00:26:00.880 --> 00:26:02.480
<v Speaker 1>like it's abusive, I.

536
00:26:02.519 --> 00:26:05.000
<v Speaker 2>Mean yeah, but at the same time, like I don't

537
00:26:05.000 --> 00:26:06.960
<v Speaker 2>know if maybe it's because I've been around longer than

538
00:26:07.000 --> 00:26:09.240
<v Speaker 2>a lot of people who are consuming poor now these days,

539
00:26:09.240 --> 00:26:10.680
<v Speaker 2>but like I want to see you come.

540
00:26:10.799 --> 00:26:12.440
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, that's the thing, Like.

541
00:26:12.440 --> 00:26:14.000
<v Speaker 2>It's the hottest part in my opinion.

542
00:26:14.000 --> 00:26:16.880
<v Speaker 1>But we know that like taking something away if someone

543
00:26:17.000 --> 00:26:19.200
<v Speaker 1>doesn't doesn't help the process.

544
00:26:19.839 --> 00:26:22.720
<v Speaker 2>That is definitely true. There's a lot of pressure, I think,

545
00:26:22.759 --> 00:26:25.200
<v Speaker 2>but like I think a lot of times that's why

546
00:26:25.240 --> 00:26:28.359
<v Speaker 2>some people were were like the champions of the industry

547
00:26:28.400 --> 00:26:30.799
<v Speaker 2>in terms of like being hired a lot because they

548
00:26:30.799 --> 00:26:33.880
<v Speaker 2>were able to get hard, they were able to fuck,

549
00:26:33.920 --> 00:26:38.599
<v Speaker 2>they were able to be present and ultimately to finish.

550
00:26:38.680 --> 00:26:41.799
<v Speaker 1>I definitely would not want to work again with somebody

551
00:26:41.960 --> 00:26:45.319
<v Speaker 1>if it took them a long, long, long time.

552
00:26:45.200 --> 00:26:49.400
<v Speaker 2>Totally Yeah, was finishing ever an issue for you? I

553
00:26:49.480 --> 00:26:50.359
<v Speaker 2>was the best at it.

554
00:26:50.400 --> 00:26:53.720
<v Speaker 3>Ay, I love that, and you're right, you know, that's

555
00:26:53.880 --> 00:26:56.119
<v Speaker 3>you know, showing up, getting along, working as a team.

556
00:26:56.599 --> 00:26:59.039
<v Speaker 3>And then I would just wait for the other person,

557
00:26:59.240 --> 00:27:01.480
<v Speaker 3>you know, and just because back in the day, we

558
00:27:01.480 --> 00:27:04.839
<v Speaker 3>we'd just pull, we'd come by jacking off on each

559
00:27:04.839 --> 00:27:07.559
<v Speaker 3>other's chest or abs. Now now I've worked to the

560
00:27:07.599 --> 00:27:10.279
<v Speaker 3>point where you know, I I just all come out

561
00:27:10.279 --> 00:27:14.079
<v Speaker 3>of your your butt or your pie or.

562
00:27:14.559 --> 00:27:16.559
<v Speaker 2>Yes, and then and then you show it.

563
00:27:16.759 --> 00:27:19.319
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, but yeah, so I would just edge and just

564
00:27:19.359 --> 00:27:21.640
<v Speaker 3>wait for him. So I'd be the one waiting, and

565
00:27:21.720 --> 00:27:23.640
<v Speaker 3>I was kind of back in the Randy Blue days.

566
00:27:23.680 --> 00:27:26.160
<v Speaker 3>I was the one would break in the young straight eyes.

567
00:27:26.519 --> 00:27:29.039
<v Speaker 2>Like, this is Reese. He's straight, he's cool, he does

568
00:27:29.039 --> 00:27:31.359
<v Speaker 2>this stuff. Yeah, I'm cool. I fuck guys on the

569
00:27:31.359 --> 00:27:32.920
<v Speaker 2>ass brow.

570
00:27:33.440 --> 00:27:39.920
<v Speaker 1>There's nothing gay about it, dude. It's acting. Man, you're

571
00:27:39.920 --> 00:27:41.000
<v Speaker 1>an you want to be an actor.

572
00:27:41.680 --> 00:27:46.480
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, So tell us about what it's like having a

573
00:27:46.559 --> 00:27:52.839
<v Speaker 2>straight relationship slash marriage while gape horn is the bulk

574
00:27:52.880 --> 00:27:55.319
<v Speaker 2>of your income, if not all of it. Yeah, Yeah,

575
00:27:55.599 --> 00:27:58.119
<v Speaker 2>how's that going? I've been how that even start? Yeah?

576
00:27:58.200 --> 00:28:01.440
<v Speaker 3>We got together about twenty one years ago. Oh wow,

577
00:28:01.519 --> 00:28:04.680
<v Speaker 3>so like when you started just before, So she's whoa

578
00:28:04.720 --> 00:28:05.279
<v Speaker 3>whole ride?

579
00:28:05.799 --> 00:28:06.119
<v Speaker 1>Wow?

580
00:28:06.839 --> 00:28:09.039
<v Speaker 3>So yeah, she's she's I just got off the phone

581
00:28:09.039 --> 00:28:11.240
<v Speaker 3>with this person. Should I do this? Should I do that?

582
00:28:12.279 --> 00:28:14.400
<v Speaker 3>Telling her it can get me down, get me and

583
00:28:14.440 --> 00:28:16.359
<v Speaker 3>to know a lot of people, which it has. Yeah,

584
00:28:16.400 --> 00:28:18.319
<v Speaker 3>so she's been there from the very beginning. She was

585
00:28:18.359 --> 00:28:22.519
<v Speaker 3>completely okay with the really easily okay with the gay straight.

586
00:28:22.599 --> 00:28:25.680
<v Speaker 3>She didn't want me to do oh really? Yeah, so

587
00:28:25.839 --> 00:28:27.880
<v Speaker 3>I was actually by the plot thickens.

588
00:28:27.960 --> 00:28:30.759
<v Speaker 2>Yeah. Yeah, and would you have if she was not

589
00:28:30.839 --> 00:28:31.519
<v Speaker 2>okay with it?

590
00:28:32.160 --> 00:28:35.480
<v Speaker 3>I did in five do some without her knowing, because

591
00:28:35.720 --> 00:28:38.119
<v Speaker 3>you know, it's my job and I needed money and

592
00:28:38.480 --> 00:28:41.039
<v Speaker 3>PC and yes.

593
00:28:41.160 --> 00:28:44.799
<v Speaker 1>Right kind is to find out though, Yeah.

594
00:28:44.960 --> 00:28:47.759
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, well no, I'm fascinated by this. So she knew

595
00:28:47.799 --> 00:28:50.920
<v Speaker 2>obviously that this is a career direction that you were taking,

596
00:28:51.240 --> 00:28:54.319
<v Speaker 2>but in order to preserve the integrity of your relationship,

597
00:28:54.400 --> 00:28:57.799
<v Speaker 2>she was like, I only want you fucking boys on camera. Yeah, yeah,

598
00:28:57.880 --> 00:28:59.599
<v Speaker 2>that is very interesting.

599
00:28:59.720 --> 00:29:01.359
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, and it was you know, at the beginning, it

600
00:29:01.400 --> 00:29:03.240
<v Speaker 3>was just don't talk about it when I come back,

601
00:29:03.640 --> 00:29:07.200
<v Speaker 3>or maybe she wouldn't want to have sex that night

602
00:29:07.519 --> 00:29:11.440
<v Speaker 3>I flew in, but now it's completely progressed. Once she

603
00:29:11.519 --> 00:29:13.599
<v Speaker 3>went to like the av Inn and the Gay Vienne

604
00:29:14.119 --> 00:29:16.079
<v Speaker 3>and she saw the glitz and the glamour and the

605
00:29:16.119 --> 00:29:18.799
<v Speaker 3>appreciation that US actors get from what we did the

606
00:29:18.839 --> 00:29:22.279
<v Speaker 3>past year, and it's like the oscars of porn. She's like, Wow,

607
00:29:22.279 --> 00:29:25.839
<v Speaker 3>this is a legitimate business. And then now she can

608
00:29:25.920 --> 00:29:29.319
<v Speaker 3>dress up and pick outfits and come with me, and

609
00:29:29.359 --> 00:29:32.279
<v Speaker 3>now she's okay with the straight matter of fact, she

610
00:29:32.359 --> 00:29:35.680
<v Speaker 3>was just on the team VP's production house in Arizona,

611
00:29:35.759 --> 00:29:39.039
<v Speaker 3>helping out with cooking and cleaning and doing behind the

612
00:29:39.079 --> 00:29:43.680
<v Speaker 3>scenes videos or interviews, and there's just fucking going on

613
00:29:43.799 --> 00:29:46.839
<v Speaker 3>left and right. They filmed like thirty films in that weekend,

614
00:29:47.440 --> 00:29:51.559
<v Speaker 3>so it was really interesting to see Becky there and

615
00:29:51.599 --> 00:29:53.359
<v Speaker 3>she was she was also talking to the girls for

616
00:29:53.440 --> 00:29:55.799
<v Speaker 3>me because I'm busy, I might be helping film and

617
00:29:55.839 --> 00:29:57.559
<v Speaker 3>she's like, hey, you want to film with my husband?

618
00:29:58.160 --> 00:29:59.519
<v Speaker 2>And she was setting it off.

619
00:30:00.839 --> 00:30:01.440
<v Speaker 1>She's honest.

620
00:30:01.519 --> 00:30:04.680
<v Speaker 2>She's evolved, dude. Yeah, I mean that's awesome. Like the

621
00:30:04.720 --> 00:30:06.680
<v Speaker 2>state of relationships I think have changed so much in

622
00:30:06.720 --> 00:30:08.839
<v Speaker 2>the last twenty years too. I can see how, like

623
00:30:08.920 --> 00:30:10.559
<v Speaker 2>you know, we evolve a little bit. There's a little

624
00:30:10.640 --> 00:30:13.240
<v Speaker 2>less pressure. Does she have a career of her owner?

625
00:30:13.279 --> 00:30:15.519
<v Speaker 2>Do you guys work together on like the business of

626
00:30:15.599 --> 00:30:17.920
<v Speaker 2>Reese write out? We work together? Okay? Yeah, so she

627
00:30:18.000 --> 00:30:21.680
<v Speaker 2>helps out. She scheduled this whole trip for me. Wow,

628
00:30:21.839 --> 00:30:26.000
<v Speaker 2>the whole She's like, she's like your pimp kind of Yeah,

629
00:30:26.160 --> 00:30:27.680
<v Speaker 2>she sounds awesome. Pimp.

630
00:30:28.079 --> 00:30:30.400
<v Speaker 3>We have this little joke for her, you know, you know,

631
00:30:30.440 --> 00:30:32.480
<v Speaker 3>because even if you're a director or something, you give

632
00:30:32.480 --> 00:30:37.279
<v Speaker 3>yourself a fake name. H yeah, a pseudonym. Yeah, pseudonym.

633
00:30:37.400 --> 00:30:39.920
<v Speaker 2>Pseudonym. Do you like that one? Yeah?

634
00:30:39.960 --> 00:30:42.440
<v Speaker 3>So her middle name, and then she sees more Dix

635
00:30:42.480 --> 00:30:44.880
<v Speaker 3>than me, Sue Dix.

636
00:30:49.400 --> 00:30:52.720
<v Speaker 2>Does she get some passes considering that you're fucking all

637
00:30:52.720 --> 00:30:55.279
<v Speaker 2>over the place on camera? Does she get some fine

638
00:30:55.319 --> 00:30:59.559
<v Speaker 2>Dix elsewhere without you know, divulging too much? Sure? Yes,

639
00:30:59.720 --> 00:31:03.160
<v Speaker 2>I guess that's a personal question. I apologize well, I mean,

640
00:31:03.279 --> 00:31:04.039
<v Speaker 2>on my behalf.

641
00:31:04.079 --> 00:31:06.920
<v Speaker 3>You know, I wouldn't it doesn't I wouldn't blink an eye.

642
00:31:07.119 --> 00:31:09.839
<v Speaker 3>But yeah, there's been a time where a friend of

643
00:31:10.160 --> 00:31:14.359
<v Speaker 3>thirty five years wanted to play and I brought that

644
00:31:14.440 --> 00:31:16.400
<v Speaker 3>up to her and think it maybe it'd flatter her,

645
00:31:16.799 --> 00:31:20.960
<v Speaker 3>but it went the other way. Interesting, and there were

646
00:31:21.000 --> 00:31:24.720
<v Speaker 3>a wanted to play with her, play with you, oh

647
00:31:24.759 --> 00:31:25.319
<v Speaker 3>all of us?

648
00:31:25.359 --> 00:31:25.920
<v Speaker 2>Oh gotcha?

649
00:31:26.000 --> 00:31:29.519
<v Speaker 3>Okay, yeah, yeah, he's uh, he's married himself and he's

650
00:31:29.559 --> 00:31:30.400
<v Speaker 3>in that lifestyle.

651
00:31:30.759 --> 00:31:31.160
<v Speaker 2>Yeah.

652
00:31:31.200 --> 00:31:35.200
<v Speaker 3>But yeah it was a swinging yeah yes, swing, yeah, yes, swing.

653
00:31:35.319 --> 00:31:37.799
<v Speaker 3>But that's who she is. She doesn't play around. She

654
00:31:37.839 --> 00:31:40.319
<v Speaker 3>did say those where's the dildo? Because I'm gone for

655
00:31:40.359 --> 00:31:40.759
<v Speaker 3>a month?

656
00:31:42.279 --> 00:31:45.519
<v Speaker 2>Yeah. I love that, you know, I think that. Honestly,

657
00:31:45.559 --> 00:31:48.319
<v Speaker 2>that's super evolved. We talk about this on his podcast

658
00:31:48.359 --> 00:31:50.240
<v Speaker 2>all the time, what it's like to be in the

659
00:31:50.279 --> 00:31:54.119
<v Speaker 2>adult industry and date people who are not necessarily participants

660
00:31:54.240 --> 00:31:57.480
<v Speaker 2>of the adult industry, at least as performers, and it

661
00:31:57.519 --> 00:31:59.519
<v Speaker 2>can cause a lot of problems because a lot of

662
00:31:59.519 --> 00:32:01.759
<v Speaker 2>times they all think like, well, if you're getting all

663
00:32:01.799 --> 00:32:05.720
<v Speaker 2>this action, whether it's on or off camera, why shouldn't I,

664
00:32:06.039 --> 00:32:07.720
<v Speaker 2>Or like, I'm a little jealous that I.

665
00:32:07.680 --> 00:32:09.240
<v Speaker 1>Don't feel neglected.

666
00:32:09.480 --> 00:32:12.279
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, all kinds of yeah, all kinds of things. So

667
00:32:12.319 --> 00:32:14.160
<v Speaker 2>if she's able to just be like, you know what,

668
00:32:14.200 --> 00:32:16.799
<v Speaker 2>that's your life, this is my life, and how I

669
00:32:16.880 --> 00:32:20.279
<v Speaker 2>participate in your life, it's pretty cool. It is. I'm

670
00:32:20.359 --> 00:32:21.559
<v Speaker 2>super lucky. That's awesome.

671
00:32:22.759 --> 00:32:25.640
<v Speaker 1>We were facetiming a lot during that During the.

672
00:32:27.400 --> 00:32:31.319
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, so I want to know about biceps. Is that

673
00:32:31.480 --> 00:32:35.079
<v Speaker 2>just is do you have like a music portion of

674
00:32:35.119 --> 00:32:37.000
<v Speaker 2>your career or is that just kind of one track

675
00:32:37.039 --> 00:32:38.799
<v Speaker 2>you just touring around.

676
00:32:38.880 --> 00:32:41.640
<v Speaker 3>It's always been it's always been something I've I've I mean,

677
00:32:41.640 --> 00:32:44.039
<v Speaker 3>ever since I was in like elementary school, There'd be

678
00:32:44.079 --> 00:32:46.039
<v Speaker 3>some sort of entertainment thing I wanted to do, like

679
00:32:46.200 --> 00:32:50.599
<v Speaker 3>a magician or comedian. Or my grandpa did the accordion

680
00:32:50.640 --> 00:32:53.599
<v Speaker 3>and piano and organ at his house, and so I

681
00:32:53.680 --> 00:32:58.240
<v Speaker 3>did guitar, got my brother into brothers. We'd do guitar

682
00:32:58.319 --> 00:33:01.920
<v Speaker 3>and he was really good at drums and so many instruments. Singing.

683
00:33:02.000 --> 00:33:03.960
<v Speaker 3>My mom does some singing. That kind of gave me

684
00:33:04.000 --> 00:33:06.519
<v Speaker 3>some courage. Did a year and a half of lessons.

685
00:33:06.559 --> 00:33:12.400
<v Speaker 3>Even though I'm still I am in a musical coming

686
00:33:12.480 --> 00:33:17.279
<v Speaker 3>up in March in Portland. I play he Man again again.

687
00:33:17.759 --> 00:33:24.400
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, humble brag, backdoor bragging. Oh, they just hire me

688
00:33:24.480 --> 00:33:27.640
<v Speaker 2>on these musicals to play muscly superheroes.

689
00:33:27.839 --> 00:33:30.480
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, that's my hair blonde for the first I'll do

690
00:33:30.519 --> 00:33:32.680
<v Speaker 3>a wig this time. It was too hard keeping my

691
00:33:32.720 --> 00:33:37.400
<v Speaker 3>hair blonde herd orange. But the bicep song actually was

692
00:33:37.480 --> 00:33:39.279
<v Speaker 3>I hit someone up on fiver and said, I want

693
00:33:39.279 --> 00:33:42.599
<v Speaker 3>to beat the sounds eighties rapish you send me a.

694
00:33:42.559 --> 00:33:44.880
<v Speaker 2>Beat I got, I got some hooks in my head.

695
00:33:45.519 --> 00:33:46.400
<v Speaker 2>I want to lay down.

696
00:33:46.480 --> 00:33:50.000
<v Speaker 3>And then one drunk night with my SM seven B

697
00:33:50.160 --> 00:33:54.400
<v Speaker 3>sure microphone, same one, Michael Jackson recorded thriller Around. I

698
00:33:54.440 --> 00:33:57.359
<v Speaker 3>busted it out in five minutes and then I sent

699
00:33:57.400 --> 00:34:00.640
<v Speaker 3>it off to We Dope, their sounding engineers here in

700
00:34:00.720 --> 00:34:03.599
<v Speaker 3>LA And that was like three years ago. But funny enough,

701
00:34:03.640 --> 00:34:05.839
<v Speaker 3>they a week ago they hit me up and they're like, hey,

702
00:34:06.200 --> 00:34:09.159
<v Speaker 3>we never did the splits on that song, Like, well, no,

703
00:34:09.280 --> 00:34:12.480
<v Speaker 3>what's the splits? The split So it's a percentage that

704
00:34:12.519 --> 00:34:16.519
<v Speaker 3>they composers, collaborators get even though they just did the

705
00:34:16.559 --> 00:34:19.159
<v Speaker 3>mixing and masterin Yeah. But I was like, I'll give

706
00:34:19.159 --> 00:34:20.559
<v Speaker 3>it to you guys because they can put in their

707
00:34:20.559 --> 00:34:24.119
<v Speaker 3>catalog and potentially have productions use it.

708
00:34:24.320 --> 00:34:27.119
<v Speaker 2>Yeah. So I'm like, yeah, here's your twenty five percent. Nice.

709
00:34:27.400 --> 00:34:30.119
<v Speaker 3>It's only made one hundred bucks and over the last

710
00:34:30.119 --> 00:34:34.199
<v Speaker 3>three years, but I probably one hundred and fifty on

711
00:34:34.280 --> 00:34:36.599
<v Speaker 3>marketing right right.

712
00:34:38.360 --> 00:34:40.480
<v Speaker 2>It made for a great stage show, I'll tell you that.

713
00:34:40.679 --> 00:34:42.639
<v Speaker 2>Thank you, And that was on a night I think

714
00:34:42.920 --> 00:34:44.800
<v Speaker 2>that was an award show right, and you won like

715
00:34:44.840 --> 00:34:47.840
<v Speaker 2>a life shot oh, the Fleshbot Awards, and you won

716
00:34:47.920 --> 00:34:51.159
<v Speaker 2>like a Life Achievement Award, the Legacy one, the Legacy Award. Yeah,

717
00:34:51.159 --> 00:34:53.719
<v Speaker 2>that's fucking cool. It's really cool. Yeah, it felt good.

718
00:34:53.760 --> 00:34:55.840
<v Speaker 2>I mean, having longevity in this industry, I mean I've

719
00:34:55.920 --> 00:34:57.599
<v Speaker 2>I've been doing it eleven years and I'm kind of

720
00:34:57.599 --> 00:34:59.920
<v Speaker 2>like shocked I'm still around, even in some capacity.

721
00:35:00.360 --> 00:35:02.920
<v Speaker 3>Oh yeah yeah, and so like I see why you're

722
00:35:02.920 --> 00:35:06.719
<v Speaker 3>still around. Oh yeah, yeah, I mean I see all around.

723
00:35:06.760 --> 00:35:09.119
<v Speaker 2>I mean I don't want you to extrapolate, but I

724
00:35:09.159 --> 00:35:18.800
<v Speaker 2>want you to extrapolate. No, pressure's extrapolate, alliteration, pseudonym, extrapolate,

725
00:35:19.800 --> 00:35:26.280
<v Speaker 2>to keep going. What's that from the word of the

726
00:35:26.360 --> 00:35:30.960
<v Speaker 2>day screaming? I don't know what a yeah, yeah, that

727
00:35:31.039 --> 00:35:32.159
<v Speaker 2>was a little home alone.

728
00:35:32.159 --> 00:35:34.280
<v Speaker 1>It was a little but you need your you need

729
00:35:34.280 --> 00:35:35.480
<v Speaker 1>the hands up on your face to.

730
00:35:35.519 --> 00:35:37.679
<v Speaker 2>Tev's Playhouse or is every time out yeaheah.

731
00:35:37.679 --> 00:35:42.400
<v Speaker 3>I used to watch Yeah, I won Peewee for Halloween contest.

732
00:35:42.559 --> 00:35:46.320
<v Speaker 2>Oh yeah, I know we're aging ourselves. I don't care.

733
00:35:46.400 --> 00:35:51.519
<v Speaker 2>Whatever care early Tim Burton ship, I've seen a couple

734
00:35:51.519 --> 00:35:55.719
<v Speaker 2>of interviews of you as well, and we had mentioned

735
00:35:55.760 --> 00:35:58.599
<v Speaker 2>that we were on one of our Instagram posts that

736
00:35:58.639 --> 00:36:01.320
<v Speaker 2>we were excited to have you on a guest and

737
00:36:01.360 --> 00:36:03.920
<v Speaker 2>we had a couple of people comment like do you

738
00:36:03.960 --> 00:36:08.280
<v Speaker 2>get a lot of flack for being bisexual or even

739
00:36:08.320 --> 00:36:12.239
<v Speaker 2>hetero flexible or straight leaning and having this kind of

740
00:36:12.280 --> 00:36:15.000
<v Speaker 2>position in the gay adult industry? Like do people give

741
00:36:15.039 --> 00:36:15.719
<v Speaker 2>you ship for that?

742
00:36:16.039 --> 00:36:18.679
<v Speaker 1>Now I remember the comment. It was like, it was like, oh,

743
00:36:18.719 --> 00:36:22.480
<v Speaker 1>I hope not, like keep your keep your podcast gay,

744
00:36:23.159 --> 00:36:24.599
<v Speaker 1>don't have straight people on it?

745
00:36:24.639 --> 00:36:28.719
<v Speaker 2>I'm like, I mean and we have before, Yeah, we

746
00:36:28.760 --> 00:36:33.159
<v Speaker 2>had Adam Kobatsky, Like we like hearing a variety of perspectives,

747
00:36:33.159 --> 00:36:35.119
<v Speaker 2>but I just wanted to hear your perspective if it

748
00:36:35.199 --> 00:36:39.079
<v Speaker 2>if it's sometimes it's difficult taking ship from people who

749
00:36:39.440 --> 00:36:40.239
<v Speaker 2>are pureists.

750
00:36:41.079 --> 00:36:45.559
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, it's happened more recently. You know, back in the day,

751
00:36:45.639 --> 00:36:48.880
<v Speaker 3>the gay for pay was was that's it was touted

752
00:36:48.880 --> 00:36:51.000
<v Speaker 3>and it was a term for marketing. Sure, but I

753
00:36:51.039 --> 00:36:53.679
<v Speaker 3>think when when you when you say something like you know,

754
00:36:53.760 --> 00:36:56.079
<v Speaker 3>don't have them on they're not gay enough, it makes

755
00:36:56.119 --> 00:36:59.039
<v Speaker 3>that that straight man that's thinking about coming out, you know.

756
00:36:59.039 --> 00:37:01.280
<v Speaker 2>Curl up good point.

757
00:37:01.480 --> 00:37:04.440
<v Speaker 3>Then then you're going to be demonized. That's what it

758
00:37:04.480 --> 00:37:07.320
<v Speaker 3>feels like it and that's you know, that's that's not

759
00:37:07.400 --> 00:37:09.559
<v Speaker 3>a good feeling, and you should look at me. Is

760
00:37:10.000 --> 00:37:12.320
<v Speaker 3>that bridge between the gap to get you through the

761
00:37:12.400 --> 00:37:16.000
<v Speaker 3>over the moat to the castle, to the glory land.

762
00:37:16.199 --> 00:37:17.159
<v Speaker 1>To the glory hole.

763
00:37:19.119 --> 00:37:21.440
<v Speaker 3>But because I you know, I can, I can slip

764
00:37:21.440 --> 00:37:24.960
<v Speaker 3>in both worlds in terms of gay and straight and

765
00:37:25.280 --> 00:37:29.920
<v Speaker 3>buy and you know, I do it all FtM, you know, MTF,

766
00:37:29.960 --> 00:37:34.519
<v Speaker 3>trans and I'm very fluid in that, in that aspect.

767
00:37:34.559 --> 00:37:36.920
<v Speaker 3>And so it's like, I like to consider myself an

768
00:37:36.920 --> 00:37:39.920
<v Speaker 3>ally for I'd stand up for anybody that is on

769
00:37:39.920 --> 00:37:43.679
<v Speaker 3>on that rainbow of one side to the other. And

770
00:37:44.079 --> 00:37:46.239
<v Speaker 3>I'm just waiting for the day for me to have

771
00:37:46.280 --> 00:37:48.360
<v Speaker 3>to protect one of my gay friends out in the

772
00:37:48.400 --> 00:37:52.760
<v Speaker 3>real world. You know, I'm always I'm hyper vigilant on that.

773
00:37:53.599 --> 00:37:55.800
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I want to be that hero. You know, I've

774
00:37:55.840 --> 00:37:58.320
<v Speaker 2>been saying this for years, for at least for recent years,

775
00:37:58.320 --> 00:38:01.159
<v Speaker 2>that fluid is the future. And I think that I

776
00:38:01.199 --> 00:38:05.440
<v Speaker 2>think fluids started with bisexual. I think that, you know,

777
00:38:05.519 --> 00:38:07.800
<v Speaker 2>the binary is becoming more of a spectrum. And I

778
00:38:07.800 --> 00:38:10.559
<v Speaker 2>think that it's really cool that you have been a

779
00:38:10.639 --> 00:38:14.119
<v Speaker 2>voice in that for this long and that that voice

780
00:38:14.119 --> 00:38:17.360
<v Speaker 2>has kind of evolved, and it's nice to hear that

781
00:38:17.440 --> 00:38:20.159
<v Speaker 2>you also work with like trans people and like that's

782
00:38:20.199 --> 00:38:23.280
<v Speaker 2>some admirable thank you. Yeah. Yeah, So i' me into

783
00:38:23.320 --> 00:38:23.960
<v Speaker 2>those comments.

784
00:38:24.119 --> 00:38:25.920
<v Speaker 3>You gotta, you know, just take them with a grain

785
00:38:25.960 --> 00:38:26.519
<v Speaker 3>of salt, and.

786
00:38:27.199 --> 00:38:29.639
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I get them if I even like if I

787
00:38:29.800 --> 00:38:33.159
<v Speaker 1>like something on Twitter that is a straight video or

788
00:38:33.400 --> 00:38:36.199
<v Speaker 1>like say something like people ask if I A'm gonna

789
00:38:36.199 --> 00:38:38.639
<v Speaker 1>do a straight scene and I'm like, yeah, I don't know,

790
00:38:38.719 --> 00:38:41.400
<v Speaker 1>I could, Yeah, why not? I don't know a lot

791
00:38:41.400 --> 00:38:45.119
<v Speaker 1>of you are, and I am I'm I'm like, I

792
00:38:45.119 --> 00:38:47.039
<v Speaker 1>don't know a lot of girls in the industry, but

793
00:38:47.159 --> 00:38:50.039
<v Speaker 1>I'm like, I'm open to it. So if it gets

794
00:38:50.039 --> 00:38:52.039
<v Speaker 1>set up, it gets set up. But I'm not going

795
00:38:52.119 --> 00:38:54.760
<v Speaker 1>to like really, if it's easy to set up, I'll

796
00:38:54.800 --> 00:38:58.239
<v Speaker 1>do it. Yeah, but sometimes it can be a little challenging,

797
00:38:58.320 --> 00:39:01.320
<v Speaker 1>especially not knowing that many women that want to shoot

798
00:39:01.559 --> 00:39:02.079
<v Speaker 1>with well.

799
00:39:02.119 --> 00:39:06.280
<v Speaker 2>I think that that purest perspective is is dated. I

800
00:39:06.280 --> 00:39:07.920
<v Speaker 2>think it's kind of a thing of the past, and

801
00:39:07.960 --> 00:39:11.519
<v Speaker 2>I like, you know, performers like Derek Cage, who is like,

802
00:39:11.559 --> 00:39:15.039
<v Speaker 2>you know, he considers himself gay, but he also has

803
00:39:15.079 --> 00:39:18.480
<v Speaker 2>just such a curiosity for all things sexual yeah. So

804
00:39:18.559 --> 00:39:22.039
<v Speaker 2>he's like he like, is curious about working with women,

805
00:39:22.320 --> 00:39:24.559
<v Speaker 2>so he's going to ye and every time people give

806
00:39:24.599 --> 00:39:25.760
<v Speaker 2>him sit for it, he's kind of like, I don't

807
00:39:25.800 --> 00:39:27.679
<v Speaker 2>give a fuck. Yeah, I'm not doing this for you.

808
00:39:27.840 --> 00:39:31.760
<v Speaker 2>I'm doing this for me, like yeah, And if he loses.

809
00:39:31.519 --> 00:39:34.159
<v Speaker 1>Those fans, then I guess I'll have to take that

810
00:39:34.199 --> 00:39:35.519
<v Speaker 1>attitude with me when I.

811
00:39:35.960 --> 00:39:39.159
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, yeah, no, it clearly if you have a curiosity

812
00:39:39.159 --> 00:39:42.400
<v Speaker 2>to work with women, follow that I do. Yeah, yeah, totally.

813
00:39:42.480 --> 00:39:44.880
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I have something on Sunday.

814
00:39:45.039 --> 00:39:48.760
<v Speaker 2>Oh yeah, he's filming his first straight threesome.

815
00:39:49.199 --> 00:39:52.159
<v Speaker 1>Well, it's I guess by threesome, I mean, I guess

816
00:39:52.400 --> 00:39:56.000
<v Speaker 1>here's the thing straight enough. I think I think it's straight.

817
00:39:57.679 --> 00:40:02.159
<v Speaker 1>I think it's straight. MMF is hotter to me than

818
00:40:02.320 --> 00:40:03.360
<v Speaker 1>a by m ms.

819
00:40:03.519 --> 00:40:06.000
<v Speaker 2>Well, because essentially what you're doing is you're filming something

820
00:40:06.000 --> 00:40:08.599
<v Speaker 2>that you consume on your own. I know you've been

821
00:40:08.639 --> 00:40:12.639
<v Speaker 2>saying this for years, that you love and yeah, yeah.

822
00:40:12.480 --> 00:40:15.039
<v Speaker 1>I hope I do a good job. Another thing is

823
00:40:15.039 --> 00:40:18.400
<v Speaker 1>like I get more stressed out about the idea of

824
00:40:18.440 --> 00:40:20.079
<v Speaker 1>filming with a woman. I'm like, I don't want to

825
00:40:20.079 --> 00:40:23.800
<v Speaker 1>bore her. I'm like with a guy, I know I'm

826
00:40:23.800 --> 00:40:25.599
<v Speaker 1>like gonna have Like, he's gonna have a good time.

827
00:40:25.639 --> 00:40:30.559
<v Speaker 1>But I'm pretty confident about that. But yeah, with a woman,

828
00:40:30.599 --> 00:40:32.559
<v Speaker 1>I'm like, I don't want her to be like, who

829
00:40:32.719 --> 00:40:33.880
<v Speaker 1>is this gay guy fucking me?

830
00:40:34.679 --> 00:40:37.000
<v Speaker 2>Well you'll find out. I can't wait to talk about

831
00:40:37.039 --> 00:40:43.199
<v Speaker 2>it on this podcast. They're gonna love it, yeah, Connor Cocks. Yeah.

832
00:40:43.239 --> 00:40:48.440
<v Speaker 2>So bringing it back around to sobriety, obviously, you know

833
00:40:48.480 --> 00:40:51.800
<v Speaker 2>when you're on stage winning legacy awards and performing for

834
00:40:52.400 --> 00:40:56.159
<v Speaker 2>your gay fans, people are probably throwing substances at you

835
00:40:56.239 --> 00:40:58.559
<v Speaker 2>all the time. I'm sure this is something you have

836
00:40:58.599 --> 00:41:00.159
<v Speaker 2>to kind of you've been having to deal with for

837
00:41:00.159 --> 00:41:01.960
<v Speaker 2>a long time. Have you been in and out of

838
00:41:02.000 --> 00:41:04.719
<v Speaker 2>sobriety over the years or is this the first time

839
00:41:04.760 --> 00:41:07.360
<v Speaker 2>that you're like committing to that title sober?

840
00:41:07.760 --> 00:41:10.679
<v Speaker 3>Been in and out you have? I saw where it

841
00:41:10.679 --> 00:41:13.440
<v Speaker 3>can take you. You know, it's it's either a slow

842
00:41:13.519 --> 00:41:17.119
<v Speaker 3>death or a fast death. How it is with alcohol.

843
00:41:17.159 --> 00:41:20.320
<v Speaker 1>Can you talk about like what you saw, oh, like

844
00:41:20.400 --> 00:41:22.079
<v Speaker 1>in terms of like why it affects you?

845
00:41:23.000 --> 00:41:27.199
<v Speaker 2>Yeah? You mean you mean I like who yeah?

846
00:41:27.280 --> 00:41:27.639
<v Speaker 1>Yeah?

847
00:41:27.840 --> 00:41:29.519
<v Speaker 2>Oh with my brother yeah yeah.

848
00:41:29.400 --> 00:41:33.239
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, oh yeah, there was it was Halloween a couple

849
00:41:33.239 --> 00:41:34.239
<v Speaker 3>of years ago and.

850
00:41:35.639 --> 00:41:36.440
<v Speaker 2>We helped him move.

851
00:41:37.199 --> 00:41:40.639
<v Speaker 3>Took him ten ten fifteen days, so many truckloads. He

852
00:41:40.719 --> 00:41:43.239
<v Speaker 3>was really stressed out moving with his girlfriend. And then

853
00:41:44.000 --> 00:41:46.400
<v Speaker 3>my younger brother Jared was living with me and he

854
00:41:46.480 --> 00:41:47.679
<v Speaker 3>was just on the phone a lot with him the

855
00:41:47.760 --> 00:41:53.519
<v Speaker 3>last week and tonight he was Jordan's acting. He's talking

856
00:41:53.519 --> 00:41:55.320
<v Speaker 3>to me in like six seven different voices.

857
00:41:55.599 --> 00:41:59.199
<v Speaker 2>What's going on? You know? And then I.

858
00:41:59.480 --> 00:42:01.679
<v Speaker 3>Kind of I kind of like picked up what was

859
00:42:01.719 --> 00:42:02.159
<v Speaker 3>going on.

860
00:42:03.239 --> 00:42:04.840
<v Speaker 2>So then I was like, we got to get over there.

861
00:42:05.159 --> 00:42:06.000
<v Speaker 2>He's across town.

862
00:42:06.760 --> 00:42:08.679
<v Speaker 3>And then I beg he had to go to the bathroom,

863
00:42:09.440 --> 00:42:14.280
<v Speaker 3>which took a few minutes, and then we were driving

864
00:42:14.320 --> 00:42:18.840
<v Speaker 3>over as fast as we can. And then, uh, I'm

865
00:42:18.920 --> 00:42:21.199
<v Speaker 3>calling my dad, Hey, should I call the police? It's

866
00:42:21.199 --> 00:42:23.559
<v Speaker 3>something something's not right here. He's not answering his phone

867
00:42:23.599 --> 00:42:26.480
<v Speaker 3>and stuff. But my dad didn't want us to call

868
00:42:26.519 --> 00:42:29.280
<v Speaker 3>the police, you know, so we just kept driving. And

869
00:42:29.480 --> 00:42:31.519
<v Speaker 3>then Julie was with my dad and she had to

870
00:42:31.519 --> 00:42:34.960
<v Speaker 3>stop and get alcohol. Took a few minutes at the store.

871
00:42:35.800 --> 00:42:37.519
<v Speaker 3>So so many things that took a few minutes in

872
00:42:37.599 --> 00:42:41.760
<v Speaker 3>one being alcohol. And then we get he wouldn't answer

873
00:42:41.800 --> 00:42:45.480
<v Speaker 3>the doors, you know, candy out and on the porch

874
00:42:45.519 --> 00:42:48.840
<v Speaker 3>and we walk around back and the back door is open.

875
00:42:49.639 --> 00:42:51.960
<v Speaker 3>And then my brother Jared was with me. We're the

876
00:42:52.000 --> 00:42:54.239
<v Speaker 3>first ones there. And then he said, there he is,

877
00:42:54.519 --> 00:42:57.360
<v Speaker 3>and I turned around. He's just in the grass. So

878
00:42:57.400 --> 00:43:07.599
<v Speaker 3>we immediately like run over to him.

879
00:42:59.480 --> 00:43:08.199
<v Speaker 2>And I'm so sorry. It's just tried to plug the hole.

880
00:43:10.159 --> 00:43:13.199
<v Speaker 2>There's just nothing there.

881
00:43:13.239 --> 00:43:17.519
<v Speaker 3>And paramedics come in there just there's nothing they can do.

882
00:43:17.559 --> 00:43:19.000
<v Speaker 3>And I was just why can't you, why can't you

883
00:43:19.079 --> 00:43:20.920
<v Speaker 3>just try to shock him or something?

884
00:43:21.239 --> 00:43:23.519
<v Speaker 2>And my dad he was, he was There's a lot of.

885
00:43:23.519 --> 00:43:25.679
<v Speaker 3>The family members, my mom and Josh weren't there, but

886
00:43:26.280 --> 00:43:28.599
<v Speaker 3>or Jackie. But we all rushed over there and just

887
00:43:28.840 --> 00:43:34.719
<v Speaker 3>found just minutes late, too late. And then my dad

888
00:43:34.760 --> 00:43:38.000
<v Speaker 3>he found his brother back in like seventy three or something,

889
00:43:38.119 --> 00:43:41.400
<v Speaker 3>so I could see his face, you know, just saying Jeordie,

890
00:43:42.320 --> 00:43:46.000
<v Speaker 3>you know Jordi. And it's just been a different world

891
00:43:46.039 --> 00:43:46.480
<v Speaker 3>since then.

892
00:43:46.840 --> 00:43:48.519
<v Speaker 2>And this was I mean, you don't have to get

893
00:43:48.559 --> 00:43:50.639
<v Speaker 2>into too many details if you don't want to, but

894
00:43:50.800 --> 00:43:52.320
<v Speaker 2>this was alcohol related.

895
00:43:52.960 --> 00:43:55.360
<v Speaker 3>It had a large portion of it, okay, because it

896
00:43:55.400 --> 00:43:58.639
<v Speaker 3>can make your life a mess. He was not completing

897
00:43:58.719 --> 00:44:01.519
<v Speaker 3>his work anytime I saw and he helped me build

898
00:44:01.519 --> 00:44:04.760
<v Speaker 3>the set for our movie set and he was doing

899
00:44:04.840 --> 00:44:08.199
<v Speaker 3>construction and stuff, so that's good he was able to

900
00:44:08.199 --> 00:44:08.960
<v Speaker 3>help me build that.

901
00:44:09.440 --> 00:44:10.320
<v Speaker 2>But yeah, alcohol.

902
00:44:10.360 --> 00:44:12.679
<v Speaker 3>We got there and on the table was just a

903
00:44:12.719 --> 00:44:17.039
<v Speaker 3>handle or whatever, half gallon or gollon, and I didn't

904
00:44:17.119 --> 00:44:19.800
<v Speaker 3>I wasn't drinking that Halloween, and I wish we would

905
00:44:19.840 --> 00:44:20.679
<v Speaker 3>ask him to go out.

906
00:44:20.800 --> 00:44:21.679
<v Speaker 2>He loved the Halloween.

907
00:44:21.960 --> 00:44:27.320
<v Speaker 3>He was wearing a Yoshi Mario Kart costume.

908
00:44:28.840 --> 00:44:36.480
<v Speaker 2>Well, now here you are sober three months? Yeah, congratulations, thanks, Yeah,

909
00:44:36.559 --> 00:44:39.760
<v Speaker 2>that's something they'd be proud of him. Yeah. Yeah, we

910
00:44:39.760 --> 00:44:44.199
<v Speaker 2>were really worried about you. We had that interview scheduled

911
00:44:44.239 --> 00:44:45.960
<v Speaker 2>and we were really excited and then he told me

912
00:44:46.000 --> 00:44:47.800
<v Speaker 2>what was going on, and it was just such a

913
00:44:47.840 --> 00:44:51.119
<v Speaker 2>scary thing. So I'm really happy to hear that you've

914
00:44:51.119 --> 00:44:51.840
<v Speaker 2>pulled out of it.

915
00:44:52.440 --> 00:44:54.199
<v Speaker 3>Thank you, and thanks for having me on let me

916
00:44:54.239 --> 00:44:56.119
<v Speaker 3>talk about it. That's the first time I've actually played

917
00:44:56.119 --> 00:44:57.840
<v Speaker 3>it out in two years. It's been too hard to

918
00:44:58.159 --> 00:45:02.079
<v Speaker 3>I really appreciate you being open and candid. Yeah, thank

919
00:45:02.119 --> 00:45:02.519
<v Speaker 3>you for that.

920
00:45:03.199 --> 00:45:05.760
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, we like in Europe. You kind of you started

921
00:45:05.760 --> 00:45:08.079
<v Speaker 1>to tell me. I could tell you weren't ready to

922
00:45:08.519 --> 00:45:11.440
<v Speaker 1>like talk about it. All the way and I didn't

923
00:45:11.480 --> 00:45:14.679
<v Speaker 1>know you as well then, so it's been like, thank

924
00:45:14.719 --> 00:45:15.679
<v Speaker 1>you for sharing that with me.

925
00:45:16.079 --> 00:45:19.360
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, and definitely know mental health, you know, donate and

926
00:45:19.440 --> 00:45:21.159
<v Speaker 3>look out for people, and you got to get out.

927
00:45:21.079 --> 00:45:26.400
<v Speaker 2>There and there's always something extra you can do. And

928
00:45:26.440 --> 00:45:29.519
<v Speaker 2>there's also the nine eight eight hotline if anybody needs

929
00:45:29.519 --> 00:45:31.599
<v Speaker 2>to talk to somebody. Derek brought that to our attention

930
00:45:31.639 --> 00:45:35.440
<v Speaker 2>because Derek has also dealt with some difficult times. But

931
00:45:35.519 --> 00:45:40.199
<v Speaker 2>let's bring it up. Let's wrap up the suffering. He's

932
00:45:40.280 --> 00:45:48.840
<v Speaker 2>doing well, he's doing he's looking fantastic and La not

933
00:45:49.079 --> 00:45:52.519
<v Speaker 2>me yet, but we'll see if we can remedy that.

934
00:45:52.960 --> 00:45:55.199
<v Speaker 2>But before we wrap it up, what is next for Reese?

935
00:45:55.239 --> 00:45:57.840
<v Speaker 2>Ride out? You're you're on this tour. What are you

936
00:45:57.880 --> 00:46:01.719
<v Speaker 2>excited about? How? Let's this out on a positive note?

937
00:46:01.800 --> 00:46:06.039
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, so, fucking a lot of holes the best and

938
00:46:06.679 --> 00:46:07.239
<v Speaker 3>doing a lot.

939
00:46:07.800 --> 00:46:09.880
<v Speaker 1>What a hard right.

940
00:46:12.199 --> 00:46:17.960
<v Speaker 3>They're all ninety eight point six degrees hopefully oh god,

941
00:46:18.199 --> 00:46:22.079
<v Speaker 3>so yes, podcasts hosting some events, birthday parties.

942
00:46:22.400 --> 00:46:24.000
<v Speaker 2>This will be after the fact, but coming up on

943
00:46:24.119 --> 00:46:24.679
<v Speaker 2>twenty ninth.

944
00:46:25.360 --> 00:46:31.199
<v Speaker 3>And then yeah, movie independent Films coming out doing film

945
00:46:31.239 --> 00:46:35.840
<v Speaker 3>and one in moab Utah in November Crystal is still

946
00:46:35.880 --> 00:46:39.079
<v Speaker 3>on the editing. It's hour and forty minutes. We're gonna

947
00:46:39.079 --> 00:46:41.760
<v Speaker 3>trim a little fat, bring it down to ninety, get

948
00:46:41.760 --> 00:46:44.239
<v Speaker 3>it colorized, get that out. You can see that at

949
00:46:44.320 --> 00:46:47.360
<v Speaker 3>Nick Dent dot com. A real real name. The trailer

950
00:46:48.000 --> 00:46:50.760
<v Speaker 3>and we're doing Killer clown Girls. You'll be able to

951
00:46:50.800 --> 00:46:52.760
<v Speaker 3>see that. The musical coming up.

952
00:46:52.920 --> 00:46:55.679
<v Speaker 2>You're fucking killing it. Man, You've got so much going on.

953
00:46:55.719 --> 00:46:59.000
<v Speaker 2>It's so impressive. Thank you. Yeah, I try. Good thing

954
00:46:59.039 --> 00:47:02.000
<v Speaker 2>you got. I know, right, Jesus, good thing you got.

955
00:47:02.159 --> 00:47:05.079
<v Speaker 2>Maybe I need a Becky of my own. That's like,

956
00:47:05.320 --> 00:47:08.519
<v Speaker 2>we all need some type a straight girl to just

957
00:47:08.880 --> 00:47:11.599
<v Speaker 2>keep our shit in mind. Yeah, she does a great job. Well,

958
00:47:11.639 --> 00:47:13.760
<v Speaker 2>that's awesome. Thank you so much for joining us today,

959
00:47:13.800 --> 00:47:16.119
<v Speaker 2>Reese and getting into all all sides of what you've

960
00:47:16.119 --> 00:47:18.800
<v Speaker 2>been through. Really appreciate it. Yeah, thank you for having me.

961
00:47:18.920 --> 00:47:20.480
<v Speaker 2>It's good to see you. It's good to have you here.

962
00:47:20.599 --> 00:47:23.719
<v Speaker 2>Thank you, Adam, Yeah, thank you so much. Yeah, and

963
00:47:24.000 --> 00:47:26.840
<v Speaker 2>thank you all for listening. Powering through season three. I

964
00:47:26.840 --> 00:47:28.679
<v Speaker 2>can't believe we're close to an end here. I know

965
00:47:28.719 --> 00:47:31.559
<v Speaker 2>that was nineteen nineteen. Yeah, it's got a few left

966
00:47:31.679 --> 00:47:34.920
<v Speaker 2>and then it's the holidays. Well, Thank you guys, Thank

967
00:47:34.960 --> 00:47:36.760
<v Speaker 2>you Cole, Thank you guys for being patient with me

968
00:47:37.000 --> 00:47:39.760
<v Speaker 2>being all late. Thank you Reese for joining us. Thank

969
00:47:39.800 --> 00:47:42.559
<v Speaker 2>you Tony, Yeah, thank you to I'm Adam.

970
00:47:42.400 --> 00:47:43.559
<v Speaker 1>Ramsey, I'm Cole Connor.

971
00:47:43.639 --> 00:47:44.880
<v Speaker 2>It's been sorry for asking.

972
00:47:45.119 --> 00:47:50.960
<v Speaker 1>Bye bye. This has been sorry for asking.

973
00:47:51.320 --> 00:47:55.119
<v Speaker 2>Be sure to like, comment and subscribe, and until next time,

974
00:47:55.920 --> 00:48:09.599
<v Speaker 2>stay sexy perfected. You know it