Speaker 1: Hello, ladies and gentlemen, Welcome back to another episode of
geek Verse podcast. I am one of your hosts, the
mother Taylor Field, and I'm joined.
Speaker 2: By I am the lonely Boyeur.
Speaker 1: I realize your name.
Speaker 2: That's good.
Speaker 1: Uh yeah, we are here because we're continuing on with
episode five of Alien Earth. I think it was just
you and me last week, wasn't it.
Speaker 2: That's right, Travis got it, Eaton, he got You know,
there's there's a Zeno egg just jest dating in his
chest right now, ready to burds. Maybe it's already Bursted.
We haven't. We haven't seen him in a while.
Speaker 1: He thought it was a biological survey on rocks and.
Speaker 2: Didn't work out for what a fool.
Speaker 1: Yes, but before we get into the non spoilers thoughts
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Speaker 1: That someone else, yes of us. Uh, but yeah, we
got lots of stuff popping off right now. Is a
TV show like season right now, because we got Alien Earth,
We've got Peacemaker season two, We've got gen v the
season two coming around the corner here, We've got Dexter
finale coming up here this Thursday. So lots and lots
and lots of stuff going on, and we just the
drop for it, Welcome to Dary that's coming ont end
of October. So it'll be nine episodes, I believe, So
we're gonna be checking that out and reviewing it too,
and then lots of stuff. Travis was working on the
schedule today and lots of things are kind of you know,
driving around seeing what's what's up, what's releasing soon, So
lots of good stuff. In terms of movies. Uh, we're
not doing a conjuring Last Rites review because I'm out
of town. So unless you want to go see it
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Speaker 1: Yes, and that works, and that doesn't see that reverse version.
So for context, Kirkland has the version of normal where
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I'm walking into the issue.
Speaker 2: But you literally played the video in reverse, so it
starts with the credits and it's the song like backwards.
And at first I'm like, what video did he send here?
Like I thought you were just like a different movie
because the song sounded different. But thought that one caught
me for for a loop for sure. Inside joke, inside joke.
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Speaker 1: Oh what else is cooking up? We just did a
bunch of side quest stuff, Well, I guess I did.
We all did the Trivia, which is a great episode,
go check that out. And then I did a PsyD
quest earlier this week where me and Dylan were talking
heavy on the high Divers Hell Divers, and then Dylan
was also talking about the new Prince of Persia game
he was dabbling in on, and then we kind of
break down the remaining games that are gonna be releasing
till this this year and what kind of stuff Nintendo
might have around the corner, because it is Nintendo's fortieth anniversary,
so that's coming up. That's this month and for their
thirty fifth universe. Oh, I'm assuming I'm still in the
call here doing I'm live, because Kirkland just disappeared. Okay,
Kirklin's back. I thought I lost.
Speaker 2: I centainly hit the button. That's I don't think that's
ever happened. I mean, it's probably happened once or twice before.
But I actually just clicked leave room without realizing it.
Speaker 1: It's better than ends stream.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's true. I kept you going.
Speaker 1: But yeah, lots of lots of stuff, lots stuff popping off.
But anyways, let's uh, let's get into our non spoilers
thoughts here, Kirkland, how did you feel about this episode?
Speaker 2: Yeah, episode number five, I think it was. This one
was titled in Space Nobody Hears You Dot Dot Dot,
which is, you know, calling back to the the og
Alien movie and this movie or this episode in particular,
you know, minor spoilers, it's very much that it's kind
of a flashback episode to not in the Nostromo, but
just this ship and kind of picking up, filling in
the gaps maybe I'll say not picking up, but yeah,
just just going over the stuff that was shown in
the first episode, and I think this might be my
favorite episode. It's it's not a perfect episode. There's definitely
things in here that just have me head scratching and
certain canonical weight that this this show is continuing to
kind of kind of it's it's tempering me a little bit.
I think before it's like, Okay, I'm liking this stuff,
but just the more I think about where it lies
in the chronological order of things, of just the story
of and you know, maybe there's a lot of people
out there that this is working for them on like
filling in the pre cool gaps for the just the
alien xenomorph, you know, universe as a whole, just throughout
all the project.
Speaker 1: But for me.
Speaker 2: Personally, it's it's bringing up more issues than than not.
And I think in this episode for sure, it's it's
like another one of those big where I like, especially
at the end of the episode, I kind of had
to be like, Okay, I think I'm just gonna have
to head canon now for for for stuff that I
wanted and don't like, but which is fine. Everybody's allowed
to do that. You can make your own head canon. No,
but I think I still think there is a lot
of fun stuff in this episode. There's some fantastic camera
work and like lighting, the claustrophobic feel of what like
the other alien movies have that take place on a
spaceship like this one very much has it again. And
not that we didn't have those moments throughout the season
so far, but because this episode is just on a
space ship like it, it it it feels so much
more to that level. Yeah, no, I'm gonna save my
thoughts on the characters till spoilers. Yeah, I guess not
spoiler stuff I can say added on to what I
was just finishing off with, like it. It definitely is
a beautifully looking episode. I think, just all like the
practical effects that they use, whether it's the sets on
the ship, it just looks so fantastic and uh yeah,
just like costumes and then everything it looks really good.
Speaker 1: There was a couple of.
Speaker 2: Little minor moments that the UCGI where it would really
stood out, but I understood why they used it, and
I think the fact that it was so like minor
and used uh yeah just for a small amount of time,
it didn't bother me as much. But yeah, no, it
was a fun time. I think there was a lot
of i'll say, like goofy stuff that happened too that
like just added to my enjoyment because I was laughing
like that it was even happening. I don't know if
that brings down like the quality, you know, I'll detail
what that is when we get to the spoiler section.
But it added to my enjoyment. So I had a
fun time with those goofy moments, even if they were
a little sill and uh, you know to some people
that might take them out of the scenes, especially if
it's trying to be like a really intense uh you
know building up of of like the anticipation that the
Alien franchise does so well. Yeah, no it uh some
some goof some goofy stuff in here, and yeah, I
think I'll leave it there cause I don't want to
slip of the tongue more than I already did. And uh,
I mean I do recommend it. I still think it
is a fun show to follow week to week, and
they do a good job at setting us up and
keeping the interest there. I think for even though like myself,
it's not my favorite type of substance that they're adding
to the Alien franchise in terms of like filling in
on like the five companies and and and just what
Earth is like and uh, just just I don't know
stuff like that, the sciencey aspect to it, Like it's
it's not personally what I would have wanted now that
I know what I've gotten, but uh, I mean, I'm
kind of being nipicky when it comes to that stuff,
Like it is cool that we're seeing a you know,
twenty twenty five alien TV show and it still like
looks really good and maybe has some of the feel
of what you know, one of my favorite movies of
all time started with So I'll pass to you, Taylor,
what do.
Speaker 1: You think cool? Yeah, I think that this episode is
probably my favorite so far because of just the the
atmosphere and like the score, the soundbits that they drop
in here. There's so many things that just call back
to that original Alien that I really was just enjoying
and eating up. Got a lot of backstory here that
I also enjoyed. And there's certain scenes too, Like you're right,
the CGI in certain moments was questionable. Could you tell
that there's a guy in a suit? Absolutely? But I
don't mind.
Speaker 2: It, like it.
Speaker 1: Kind of works for me because it just feels like
the original seventies Alien movie, right with the guy in
the suit.
Speaker 2: What do you got? I mean, I wasn't gonna mention
this zeno morph and but I guess you know it's
the show Alien. There's this you know morph in this episode.
It's a spoiler. My pushback there is that the one
in the original Alien, the guy in the suit is
like very much not in the movie, right, Like you
barely see him, and when you do, it's like a
quick and like if you pause it, you can be like, hey,
that looks like a human to a t. But I
think in this, just in this episode alone, there was
a lot of like full body you know, there's I'm
spoiling already, but there Yeah, there's just like a clash
that happens, and it just looked like a dude in
a suit. But I I'm not gonna knock it for it.
I like I was saying earlier, like I enjoyed it.
It added to my goofy factor, but it's uh yeah,
maybe not what I would have wanted to like a
I don't even know. I'm so conflicted on because I
enjoyed it, but still it's it's goofy. But do I
enjoy the goofiness if I'm being all serious, yes, sometimes.
Speaker 1: Like it's it's tricky because most like most of the
time we see xenomorphs, they are I don't know, they're
they're very skinny and you can't tell it. I don't
even think that they really have people in suits for
the later films. I mean they must because they're not
puppeteering them. I know, obviously, like a VPR the pread
alien is a guy in a suit for sure, But
a lot of the time, like the aliens, the way
that they're contorted and small, like you don't really see
them stand upright for human right.
Speaker 2: So close ups right, like you see the head that's
like the most notorious of the mouth and that's of that.
So okay, I'll give you that one.
Speaker 1: I can't see the like the aliens.
Speaker 2: We see a lot of aliens, but not really standing
up and like looking like a humanoid right, Like they're
they're very serpentine and like like slithering on the roof
and crawling around. So it's kind of hard to see
certain features.
Speaker 1: But yeah, there's some photos you can see, like Alien
Earth of them putting like the suit on the on
the character and whatnot. And I think too, like just
the head is a lot bigger than you the aliens
that we've seen before. Like it felt like this head
is like resident evil villain sized. You know, there's.
Speaker 2: Another thing wrong with that every head I need a comparison.
Speaker 1: But but that aside, Again, I liked the episode. There
was some very freaky things going on in here, in
just some very intense moments. So I think overall they
did a very good job with it, and I'm excited
to see where this is going to kind of go.
I'm happy to get a little bit more of a
a I don't won't call it a filler. Is it
a filler, Yes, But it's just a good filler, you know.
It's a satisfied meal that I just got to have
with with this episode. So really really happy with it,
and I think that they just they lended so many
things to a t. The world building aspect is very
very awesome too, which I guess we'll probably talk more
about later in future episodes when we get a little
bit more kind of scenery of just the different companies
and how this world works. Is we've never had that
in Alien before really this emphasis in this showcase of
how the economy and the planet Earth is run now
with with things. But yeah, that's that's all I got
for non spoilers. Anything else you want.
Speaker 2: To add, I think, so I'll throw a question your way.
Do you think we're gonna see like another company before
this season's over?
Speaker 1: Oh, that's a good question.
Speaker 2: There's two in play right now, right, and then five total?
Speaker 1: Five in total. I think I think we could see it.
Speaker 2: Just one. I I think if anything, it would be
like one at the end that leads us, you know,
that's the new factor that we have to deal with
for whatever humans going forward.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I think that there's a chance, like when things
are kind of contested, I think the other companies might
step in and be like, well, you know they're gonna
John Ham, yeah, O the company exactly. But yeah, I
think I think that they'd have to show the other
companies at some point, because I mean, I don't think
the other companies go, well they I don't think the
other companies really existed at the time. Like before, when
they're doing alien stuff, I think it was just wailing
Tani was the main thing. It's now they've come forth
and created like Prodigy and four other company or sorry,
three other companies on top of that, so they must
have some kind of part in the story for it, right.
I don't know if we're going to get a season
two or anything. I don't know how how far you
can go with this story because it's two years, right,
two years before the original Alien I think we talked about.
Speaker 2: Yeah, so like Ripley never goes to Earth technically, right,
so you could do anything just Earth's orbit, right, So
then don't delete Earth. We have to at least keep Earth.
But we don't have to go on the ground. Well
we know Pange is back. We don't know what's going on,
that's m Ripley's point of view at least. Yeah, yeah,
I don't know.
Speaker 1: Okay, uh, well we're going to get into spoilers now,
so if you want to go the episode, go watch
it and come back. But until then you've been warned.
So we'll be right back and we are back. You
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Speaker 2: That was good.
Speaker 1: That was good, all right, So where do you want
to start off with in spoiler territory.
Speaker 2: I had a thought and it kind of fleeted me,
but I think it'll come back to me. But yeah,
I think a good place to start my plan B
for locations I want to start is just the the
oh I thought I had it for a second. Never whatever,
whatever'll it'll come back to me. Is just where we
are kind of in this episode, and the fact that
we know the end result right, like we've seen I'll
have to pull up the list of characters names because
I'm gonna butcher them all. But like the acting captain,
the female lady there, like we've seen her get fucked
up at Moreau is in the mother room and then
he just like seals the door on her, like we've
already seen that scene. So uh, it's it's just an
interesting factor, you know, when you know the end result,
but like you know, the the episode starts with all
of them together, and like like I was watching this
episode with Shay and I'm just like, see that character, Yeah,
they're already dead. They're already dead. That character, Yeah they're
dead too. Every like everyone's dead, but Moreau essentially in
this circumstance, which I think can be I can understand
people like having I don't know, maybe maybe I disagree
with that actually, because I like the idea of showing
us like the end and then and then filling in
the cracks within like one season. I'm glad it wasn't
like a finale. I think there would have been some
some lackluster stuff there, because this episode very much feels
like just like a mini short alien movie, right, like
we kind of go through all the main points instead
of like making contact with something. It's like, hey, they
already have the specimens. The first time we see someone
that interacted with the eggs, like they're already they're already
on them, like they're already face hugging one of the dudes,
his throats just burnt completely off, like they're they're escalating here,
but it's underweight, right, And it definitely follows the same
idea of like eventually it bursts out. Now we got
a zeno on the ship, but they didn't really know
what's going on. I did like the added factor of,
like the other specimens that we're trying to kind of
deal with, we also have an arsonist on the ship
that's that's that's doing stuff there, So I I really
liked just the like the setup of of of what's
happening of Like I already already mentioned all those different factors,
and we're kind of following mostly just Moreau. We kind
of bounce in and like on everyone, but he is
the security guy. He's trying to figure out what the
fuck is happening on his ship, and I just liked
following that character. And that's a character that's been very
just a big question mark I think throughout the whole season,
Like we knew that he had to because well, we
assumed he had a daughter because of what he told
the one lost boy. I think it was just last
week's episode, but that could have been a lie right
until we actually see it, which we did this episode,
and we see that he truly did have a backstory there.
So we learned some more about that character, which I
am totally interested in now a little bit less so
because of the less scene, Like I feel like it
came down, you know, some point decimal notches. But I
really like the actor. I think he's he's doing a
standout job of just being so cold and calculated, especially
being a cyborg not a synth like Timothy almost said
Shay may Oliphant where he's like a very robotic you know,
like just he doesn't show emotion or anything, where Moreau
very much gets there that he gets angry, he gets
some people's faces. But I just think it's such a
killer performance for that type of role, especially usually we
have the sense in that position, right, whether it's Bishop
or I always forget the aliens guy the m v
p mm m.
Speaker 3: Oh my god, Oh it's on the my tongue. Oh, Jesus, Jesus,
Oh what is his name? It's like, uh ah a.
Speaker 2: Apologize your listeners probably screaming at your headphones.
Speaker 1: Oh my god, it's right there.
Speaker 2: Man. You keep you keep pondering. But yeah, we have
the cyborg character. Now I'm in the back of my
head thinking about who it could be, but just just
following him and him dealing with this this crew. I
don't even know what what point is on. Ah, there
we go. M v p ash, Yeah she has it, Ash,
she's a real one. But why was I on the
morea topic? Oh yeah, just just getting back to what
I was at the start of saying, yeah, what do
you feel about the setup here? Taylor of us knowing
the end result, but just going through the whole elements.
Then of course, as we're ramping up, characters are dying.
Now Moro's in the mother like room, so we kind
of know exactly where we are right now. So, yeah,
how did this hit for you? Because for me it
worked at least the uh, the pacing and the spacing
of everything on how they did.
Speaker 1: This pacing in the spacing, I like that. I usually
have sometimes a problem with knowing where it's gonna end,
but I think for the most part, like I'm down
to see the adventure. I'm down to see the action.
Like I'm the kind of guy like if we got
a Clone Wars movie live action, I'm there, sign me up.
I know it's gonna end, but I'm ready and willing
let's do it. So in this context, yeah, getting to
see how the ship falls apart, I like it. I
like the introduction of the sabatur I like the introduction
of just a degree of other factors that are in
core part of And You're right, there are some absolute
goofy people doing goofy things here, but it almost seems
like it's I think it looks goofy because we're seeing
it from a different perspective. And I'm assuming you're meaning
the lady that's like checking out the bugs and like
putting the rat in the bug tin, and like the eyeball,
playing games everything with the eye. I wasn't sure how
I would like it, and the other things, Like the
other creatures that we've seen so far, they seem very animalistic,
like they're obviously very parasitical, but they're very animalistic and
they just have one instinct, right, It's like, Okay, I
just need to survive and reproduce, survive, reproduce, like any
living creature needs to do. Just that's what they do.
And so when you look at the eye, the eye
is different because it's intelligent, but not intelligent from the
same point of like a xenomorph. A xenomorph is very intelligent.
It can learn. You can't I don't want to say
you can reason with it, but you can have acknowledgments
with it. Because if you're threatening the queen, for example,
a xenomorphos got back off and listen to the queen.
So there's different types of varying degrees of intelligence. And
so in that scene, in particular with the crazy lady
drinking the water, not drinking the water, but fucking around. Uh.
I liked how the eyeball was operating because it's just
being different, a different form of intelligence, Like it was
like a It had like an evil super villain human
intelligence to it, compared to a xenomorph, where it's thinking
as a hive mind intelligence and like survivability, which I like.
I like how the eye was tapping on the glass
getting the woman to look away so it wouldn't notice
the insect crawling out, and I thought first.
Speaker 2: I thought it was on her side like water water.
I was like, oh my god, what is happening here?
We're going down like a hero route with this fucking eyeball.
But I'm glad they didn't go that way.
Speaker 1: I'm glad they didn't go that way either. That sent
me for a loop though, just so I thought the
one was gonna drink it, but I was I was
thinking back to the first episode. They're like, oh, this
guy's got things in his and his intestines or whatever.
They're not there now, And I say, Okay, how's this
gonna play out in this episode? Yeah, just as soon
as it crawled on top of the bottle and shot
that shit down into the water.
Speaker 2: Ah fuck. Yeah, I I am interested in the eyeball creature.
I'll say that I did not like that scene at all.
I other than Moreau, I think this is like the
dumbest fucking crew that Waylan EUTAWNI could have assembled, like man,
the just going down the list, like the science, the
science person, the lady in the lab. They're just munching
a big mac open food. She's working with like alien species,
and I imagine she knows at least like some minor things.
When it comes to science levels, you know, she must
be a doctor. I'm saying science levels, so clearly I'm
not a doctor, but like still, I feel like the
thing they teach you in like science school, elementary, when
you're when you're working with stuff is like people cleanliness
and like actual like just taking it seriously. Where she's
just like licking her fingers. She's got her giant water
bottle that they just emphasize is just like completely filled
to the brim. She puts it down and it's just
like juicing all over the place. We do a zoom
and shot on the water. Okay, something's gonna go in
the water. That is the most foreshadow bottle, and then
gry sandwich out. They have zero fucking like locking mechanisms
on these devices. Now, I'm not saying they have to
know that these aliens are like intelligent, but still, like
I I just it baffles me that this little bug
thing like we actually get like a lock pick scene
where it like opens up, this cylinder gets out, just
so ridiculous.
Speaker 1: But there's a cap, right, there's supposed to be a
cap that goes on and the guy gives he gives
her shit about fairpoint.
Speaker 2: Actually I kind of forgot about the cap. But she's
still this guy who's not like this. This clearly isn't
his role. She that's her lab and he's like, you
should probably have the fucking cap on it, and she's like,
oh I normally do. Oh right, yeah, So dumb of me,
fucking idiot of a character that was bugging me so much.
Who else the new captain who's like just so emotionally compromised.
I don't know how she became the captain in this situation.
She like freezes up anytime anything happens. She can't make
a decisive choice. She can't even fucking get like the
apprentice guy to pay attention to her when they're having
the meeting. It just it was just a very pathetic
crew and knowing that this is the one that's like
responsible for like just getting like the actual species, Like
this is more important than what Ripley's crew was supposed
to be doing. Right, and they had they had Ash
or not Ash, that's Aliens now. They had they had Biship,
they had Ripley. You know who Ripley was, Like, I
think she she did a lot more than maybe what
she should have done on paper, but you know, she
was a hero in disguise. But I still think just
comparing these two crews, like even the who's like my
favorite character that just freaks out in Alien.
Speaker 1: When she's like no, not that way, not that way.
Speaker 2: I'm blanking on all names right now. This is this
is hurting me. But anyways, even that character I feel
like would be a lot more competent than pretty much
anyone on this roster. We have a couple more moments
with the engineer guy like that, like the main engineer
who's always with that that kid, the the apprentice guy
who I feel like when we first saw in episode one,
I'm like, all this guy's just a total asshole, just grumpy,
but and this one, they actually gave him like some
more human traits, So I appreciated that at least to
an extent. But so yeah, I would say that guy
was more of the smarter ones. I don't think there
was any big moment that just had me pulling my
hair out like it did for many of these these
the yeah, just just what's going on here? And nobody
really seemed to care when like people died either, Like
when Moreau first goes in there, he wakes up, he's
like fucking rock card, He's got no underwear on. He
has underwear on. I'm just adding a little bit substance
to the scene. Anyways, goes to the lab, there's just
two face huggers on. These two characters, like, I don't
know what to do. I try prying them off, and yeah,
it just I kind of slits his throat, it melts
it through, and they just like have no reaction to
what's going on. Is if they've seen this face hugger,
like as if they watched the Alien movie back in
the seventies and they're like, I know exactly what this
thing actually, I don't know. Just just like their behavior
in that scene really bothered me. I'm gonna pass the
mike because I've been rambling on these crew members. Do
you agree with me? Do you disagree with me? And
then what do you think about Moreau and anything else?
I said, I apologize, I was rambling, So no, don't.
Speaker 1: Don't apologize the context of Moro and his backstory with
the daughter losing the daughter because there's like a house fire.
I think it was like eight years into a sixty
five year mission.
Speaker 2: Fuck, oh, are you still motivated? You're like, yeah, I'm
gonna I'm gonna do this eight years in out of
your sixty five percent, and like in the in the
the letter, it even said like her possessions will be
handed to you in fifty three years time. It's fuck, man,
that's brutal.
Speaker 1: It's not even a quarter of the way into your
trip and you're already just feeling like shit. Jesus Christ.
Speaker 2: Yeah, so.
Speaker 1: His motivations now are purely his work, and so I
like that, and I like how I like how he's
just he's not dark and like evil or brooding, but
he's just like, Okay, no, everyone's expendable, even myself. This
is what we're gonna do. This is how we're gonna
go about it, YadA, YadA, YadA, And I like that
he wants to take command. I really like everything with Moro.
I really like that character a lot more now after
this episode seeing everything. Is he still a piece of
shit at the end of it because he doesn't let
the girl in. Yes, and if he let the girl in,
what would have happened. Two of them wouldn't have fit
in that pod. Only one of them would have got
in there. And he knows that he's willing to go
and complete the mission, and she's not. She was freaking
out everything like that. So it came down to as
much as he's a jerk, he's following the orders and
doing the mission and that's what he's committed to, and
even after the crash, he's committed to it. But yeah,
a lot of the stuff with the crew, they a
lot of them are idiots, And I like this is
where the saboteur kind of makes his entry and I
like that a lot, just them with the fire going on,
and then you see him checking out the video feeds
and you see, okay, this is where the uh the
face aggers come into play and do their impregnating and
then the guy just trying to cut the tail off.
They know about the xenomorphs, it seems like because they
have that depbriefing and they say, okay, we're talking with
a xenomorph. But it's like they don't know how It's
tricky because we don't know exactly the extensive backstory of
where they got the eggs from and the history here
of what they know. They know that these things impregnate,
but are we just assumed that, Okay, one of these
landed on one of them because they know they know
that a lot of their crew members have died collecting
all these specimens, so one of them maybe got implanted,
and then they couldn't get the face hugger off. They
had to leave them behind. I don't know how that
would have really worked. But they didn't know. What I'm
trying to get is they didn't know the final size
of what the xenomorph will get into, like how big
do these things get? So they didn't know that stage yet,
which to me tells me, Okay, they dealt with it
at an early stage. They knew the baselines, They knew
that it was gonna burst out. They know that they
could basically survive in the vacuum of space, which is
a great foreshadow to xenomorphin alien and an alien romulus,
because that Zeno morph did survive in the vacuum of space.
Uh So, Yeah, it's just interesting to see and learn
a little bit more about the backstory here about what
their their knowledge extension extension, no, their knowledge consisted of,
and what they were aware of with these creatures. And
again ill prepared, so like, yeah, not very smart at
all getting to the lady with the food in the lab. Man,
I'm totally with you, like I'm when I'm working with
equipment and you know, I will I have a desk
away from my machines that I'm operating. Yeah yo, yeah,
I lean over stuff I printed dropping like jam and
peanut butter all over the prince and stuff.
Speaker 2: Oh man. And it bugs me so much that like
she actually saw the giant fucking bug that got out
and was just like squirming around in her sandwich, and
she still like took that water, Like there's no old
chance that that any I feel like I would have
to deep scrub everything. I like, I would even touch
my pin, let alone grab my open water bottle. Who
who leaves the fucking water bottles open anyways, even if
it's not in a science lab, it's not the grievance
I have. But yeah, no, she is so stupid and
deserves she deserved to drink the water and have the
bloody cough. Honestly, Like, I think she got off way
too easily with the little uh, the little fart spray
that the bugs give them.
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, I think that was just a quick way
to kill off some people. But hey, I mean, I
don't remember after we watched that first episode, but they
say like all crew is dead, but like there were
still crew in the capsules, but I guess they died
and they crash die in their sleep, I imagine. Yeah,
so that's yeah, that's.
Speaker 2: Maybe moreau like shut off the cryo or something, because
because he talks to mother before they crash and says
all crews deceased, right, And I feel like it would
be kind of a cardinal sin if he didn't, if
he wasn't truthful, right, Like what if the l in
the hallway just monoy Mono took on the zeno and
she's alive right now.
Speaker 1: Well taken on the zeno. I mean, fucking buddy elder mechanic. Sure,
did like, and I know it wasn't him.
Speaker 2: Okay, Okay, you know, we're kind all over the place,
but I'm glad you went there because this was like
a highlight for me. I actually I really loved what
was going on with the eyeball thing. I don't love
how this scene's taken place before the goat scene, because
I thought that was like a big moment of when
it takes over the sheep, you know, and it was
the last week's episode. Now it's all blended together for me.
But yeah, in last week's episode, takes the goat because
it's like, okay, how is it going to take this
vessel and get into a human? And then now it
like I've already seen the human variant, so you know,
a little bit less exciting for when we eventually get
there looking creepy for sure. The behavior was great, kind
of like zombie but still very intelligent. So I did, like,
I think I just liked that creature and kind of
the factor of what it was, what it has going
on for itself. For the most part, I'll talk about
the scene at the end. What's kind of at the
end of the scene anyway, so I'll just keep going, Yeah,
you got the eyeball guy do his fucking war cry,
and then Alien comes in. It's like you called for me,
like I thought it was like they're working together now
and they're gonna explain this eyeball is like the chief
commander of these Zenos, and I instantly I'm like, are
you fucking kidding me right now? Like I actually I
think I said that out loud. I was so disgusted
with the idea of what was going to be happening
that these Zeno's, these like most intelligent you know things
in the galaxy, like just the prime alpha species, just
a perfect organism, you know, as David would say, is
led by these eyeball things, like just that possibility pop
my head, Glad it isn't the case because they ended
up clashing and you get fucking Burton Ernie, this guy
with his eyeball. Joh fucking tackle it. And I've aired
my grievances with maybe the last thereof power level when
it comes to the Zeno specifically in this show. There's
been multiple scenes in this episode also. It had the
same scene where the Zeno locked eyes like literally this
close for the audio listeners, I'm like within five inches
of each other, and then right after that it goes
to like a insane speed chase where this lady is
now like five hundred meters in front of the Zeno,
Like I don't understand that logic. This is the second
time the.
Speaker 1: Trips are right, and then it's gonna make a pounce
on her. But she's like she pulls a quick one
and gets up and runs really fast.
Speaker 2: But like you're like, you know what I'm talking about,
Like the camera shot that's chasing her. I'm like, hey,
she's ran five hundred meters no less in this hallway
and the Xeno is right in front of her, and
it couldn't fucking take her out. Whatever, it's for dramatic effect,
I'll give it a pass. But getting back, you know,
getting side railed again, getting back to this guy with
the eyeball who just fucking jumps on the Zeno and
like grabs its head and like he's just he's riding
him like a jockey, like it's left for dead, like
on his head, and the Zeno is like freaking out
for you know, like like freaks out and for I
don't know, five ten seconds after that, you know, the
Xeno remembers it has a tail, starts stabbing them in
the body when win's the duel by the end, by
the end of it, for sure, at least the human
version of it, you know, the eyeball, that's like stage
two of the fight. But in that moment, I honestly
thought for a second that this thing was gonna just
beat the shit out of the Zeno and just like
break its back and just just just win. I thought
it was just gonna win the battle. And I'm like, hey,
this eyeball thing is definitely taken over the body. It
probably doesn't feel pain to the same extent, but like,
that's not a superhuman, Like it's the same guy's strength.
Maybe it's elevated by like point whatever that the eyeball
can give him. But I'm like, what do the humans
not just fucking tackle these things? And like this this
mechanic who's got like, you know, farmer strength. We've seen marines,
We've seen like just so many capable fighters take on
these zenos in the past, and it just doesn't seem
like they have any chance of hand to hand combat.
But in this moment, this one fucking mechanic just just
you know, didn't win, but beat the shit out of
the Zeno in my eyes.
Speaker 1: Like I'm I'm definitely like if Zinos in front of me,
I'm not gonna go toe to toe hand in hand
with it, because.
Speaker 2: I'm jumping for the head. I'm jump for that, you know.
If I my loved ones and I have to defend
my life, I'm gonna be like, there's a chance, there's
a chance I win this. I'm gonna go for the
Mike Tyson bite the ear, you know.
Speaker 1: And that's what he did into him. Oh he bit
that fucker. He made him bleed a little bit for sure.
Speaker 2: Oh my god, if it bleeds, I can kill it.
That's what the eyeball guy was thinking in that moment.
I just couldn't believe his teeth like punctured the skin too.
It's just stuff like that. It does bug me because
it's like, this is the perfect organism, you know. Counter argument,
maybe it's a youth, Maybe maybe it's a different strain
or something in some other argument you can give me.
I don't like it. This is zeno more. If these
things should be able to just like shred through the
human and like just an instant.
Speaker 1: Ah.
Speaker 2: So that's that bothered me for sure, but at the
same time I was laughing and having a good time
and it was just so ridiculous, So I did enjoy
it on its own. But like, thinking about this again,
two years before Ripley does her heroics and takes on
the Zeno with her giant mech machine that she's actually
able to take on. Yeah, that's that's where I'm at.
Speaker 1: So, yeah, the whole duel of the Duel of the
Gods was just absolute faith starts playing fades. Oh yeah,
that was just it made me laugh and I was
enjoying and eating it up because especially when he bites
into his neck, it's going crazy. And then like that's
just phase one because when he throws Zo throws old
Man down and eats into his neck, the Zino thinks
he's one, but then the eye jumps onto its head
and the Zeno just freaks the fuck out again. And
you know, it doesn't have an eye, so I can't
get in there, and even if it did, it would
melt in the acid. But this just there's something about
just when aliens freak out, it's just I don't know,
you're dealing with something that always tries to be in
control of the situation is always a step ahead of
its target because it's a master hunter predator kind of creature,
and so when they're caught in these situations, they're screaming
and freaking out. I don't know, I just I enjoy it.
And just the context of this, yeah, with the old
man biting it and throwing fists like it was really
really good. And so I'm happy we got to see that,
because you don't get to see a enomorph's face off
against other aliens really that much. I mean, Prometheus is
a whole kind of worms, but I'm gonna ignore that.
But when you see predators yaucha faced off against them,
that's super cool. And then yeah, humans doing their own
thing the next suits the colonial Marines, YadA, YadA, YadA,
but just to get another species of parasite like this
invade into a human being and then go toe to toe.
I thought they were teaming up for a second there
after the previous scene with the little insects, but this
thing clearly like why it was roaring, I don't know,
but I liked Moro in that scene where he's just
the creature walks towards him and he raises his gun
and the eyeball thing backs up. Then morel was like no,
fuck fuck, no, fuck you back up? Like yeah, then,
I mean, what choice did he have? He had this
happen because he had the xenomorph comes up behind him
and he's like fuck, like what what do you do
in this situation? But that that was that was pretty good.
And then just the girl just I thought the girl
was dead there and that scene because I mean it's
like eyeball man just choked, just choked her and threw
her down and then stood off in the distance and
stared at her.
Speaker 2: Like when Moreau gets in the door and he's just
like just awkwardly like forty five degrees you know, like
ten meters back and he's just creepy eye and I'm like, oh, man,
like you must have ripped her throat out. But she's
like moving around and like doesn't look too damaged. So
very very bizarre. I don't know. I'm I'm interested in
the eyeball thing for sure. Yeah, I don't know. I
think I'm just interested in like kind of what's going
to happen with it so on if it's gonna because
I assumed it did, because it's it's very obviously a
paaris right like, it replaces things eyes, Yes, things that
have eyes. As you mentioned, the xeno doesn't have eyes, right, Like,
they just use their senses to kind of get around
their sniffers.
Speaker 1: And yeah, yeah, that's something I'm actually gonna highlight after
this quick eyebreak. The concept of this this creature having
eyes is it's to me for a loop because when
we're looking at all these different invasive parasitic species, the
fact that we're dealing with one that has this eyeball
implies like, okay, like what kind of aliens out there
are we dealing with that have eyeballs? Because I feel
like eyeballs are very much an earthly thing. But if
we're going around the galaxy, I guess we got the
yaucha that have eyeballs too. There are the space shockeys
that do have their eyeballs as well.
Speaker 2: But this eyeball in particular, modeled after the space jockeys,
is not that the whole we were I guess it's
not clearly answered.
Speaker 1: Well, we were technically in the history goes, but like
I don't know, like, let's, for example, let's look at
a youcha eyeball here, because the on the one that
we're looking at in the creature like this.
Speaker 2: Guy.
Speaker 1: Uh, he looks very familiar Predators ABP Central. Where is he?
Here is he in this ad?
Speaker 2: Oh yeah?
Speaker 1: Oh behind the scenes, the creation of the big screen
of balls, a combination of practical effects, visual facts, the
use of intricate contact lenses.
Speaker 2: Uh.
Speaker 1: Famously, Kevin Peter Hall portrayed both that's right, that's where
I recognized him. He played both Predators and Predator one
and Predator two wearing yellow contact lenses. Uh.
Speaker 2: Yeah, there we go, look like Anakin.
Speaker 1: But yeah, so the like the eyeballs on this predator,
they're they're different from what human eyes are like. And
this creature its eyes are very human like. But the
way they look it's like how a fly looks.
Speaker 2: I never realized. Go back to that photo. Look at
the look at the pretor's mouth. I never noticed that.
It looks very similar to something You've.
Speaker 1: Never noticed that watched pred Or two. That looks like, oh,
it's like spitting image.
Speaker 2: Okay, I don't know this is established thing. I don't
think we talked about that on the retro.
Speaker 1: Never talked maybe on the Red Show, but I know
Travis is mentioned these things are faces.
Speaker 2: For sure, it's got all the things dangerous, but don't
tempt me proto.
Speaker 1: Okay, so here we go. Flyes eyes, we got flyes eyes. Yeah,
so I'll try and yeah, I see here you go
how fly fly season?
Speaker 2: Actually, I think next week's episode is titled the Fly,
so I don't know if that's really but oh, let's
see episode six.
Speaker 1: Sixty five.
Speaker 2: There's no the fly.
Speaker 1: The fly there you go, Okay, well you know what
it ties to the This the fly's vision.
Speaker 2: It's the eye. Look at that.
Speaker 1: We're just we're paving the way here.
Speaker 2: This is this vision.
Speaker 1: It's the same way.
Speaker 2: This is what the I sees.
Speaker 1: It's the fly vision. Yeah, I don't know, it's not
really leading anywhere. It's just.
Speaker 2: The eyes. Yeah, really cool design on the creature. But yeah,
I guess, like what what what do you think is
gonna happen with the creature? Do you think it's gonna
be one of those things where like it wants the
Zeno because it seemed to call the xeno right like
I want you meet me at the highest highest point,
will clash.
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's I feel like, yeah, because the Zino was
gone then it called it back and I feel like
it called it back specifically to try, I guess, to
try a team up, but it didn't. I don't know.
Maybe it got pissed off because while I'm talking to you,
I'm just I'm just so smooth.
Speaker 2: You didn't even slow down. Okay, car I gotta.
Speaker 1: Keep my meme game up.
Speaker 3: Uh.
Speaker 2: I don't know why.
Speaker 1: I just feel like it was provoked when it was
being attacked by Moro from the Electricity and thought maybe
we could have teamed up, but then it just got
super pissed off of this, you know. I'm not sure.
It's just the context of things got escalating really really fast.
So I don't I don't know, but it'll just be
interesting to see how it's going to pan out with
this creature, because I like, I like how smart it is,
and I wasn't sure at the beginning, but it was
just a parasite. But seeing the different level of intelligence
that it's exhibiting is really interesting and engaging. I like
how it kind of knows not like communicate with people,
but it's just doing it's it's just got this this
smart thing behind it. And on top of that, I
like too that when it took over the goat. I
guess the sheep when it stood on its hind legs
was doing that, and I feel like, because that's human
thing to do, we walk on our hind legs. And
then I think it took it a second and realize
this thing walks on all four legs, and so it
went back down onto its four legs and just you know,
it just it's like it just blends in. And I
wonder if how much it absorbs. Does it absorb thoughts
or intelligence from the brain like a like the main.
Speaker 2: Like I mentioned, it has to to like a certain
level like probably the non uh what's the word use? Uh,
like your subconscious feelings, like you know, right now I'm
sitting here, but like without thinking about it, like I
actually have a lot of muscles activated to like keep
me upright right, where if I just like passed out,
I wouldn't just be sitting right like this, I'd be
limp on the ground. And like when it takes control
of buddy mechanic, like it's standing there and like using
its limbs. So I think very clearly it just like
it can pilot the body to that level. Doesn't speak English,
so it's not like it just absorbs that area of
the of the brain. I'm hoping maybe are They're not
heroes to me, but I'll call them heroes. Are humans
in this world or sense or whoever is interacting. I
guess it's the Prodigy people right that have the rights
to these sciences. I don't know the lawyers are getting
involved next week. It sounds like you Tani told us
to figure out what's going on here. But yeah, I'm
hoping that our humans or whoever studies these things and
gives us some answers on kind of what's going on
with the thought process there. And I mean now they're
studying it in cheap form, which is interesting. I can't
remember it didn't get out right in last weeks. Like
it's just in the cage right now.
Speaker 1: Just wait, everything, everything is contained right now, accept these
you know more. If that's like a little little puppy
dog to Wendy.
Speaker 2: Oh right, yeah, she canna be riding that thing like
a warg in a battle. Just if that happens. This
is this is dead to me. There's no way Ripley
is en root right now?
Speaker 1: Come on, brother, a brother on behind.
Speaker 2: We're leaving this place. The young forever.
Speaker 1: Being of bodies though the saboteur, we learned that he
was promised his own body if he could survive.
Speaker 2: Think he's choosing. Do you think he's choosing like some
athletic god. Is he choosing female body, big boobs? What's
he doing?
Speaker 1: Absolutely? Oh yeah, the trible boob, trible bomber, one boob.
That's the kind of guy.
Speaker 2: Here, or just a big blue lady. He's going full nov.
Speaker 1: He's a Pandora and he saw those movies Like yeah,
I mean, technically they could make him whatever body he
wanted in that context, they could make him some they there's.
Speaker 2: No way they actually would have gave him that body.
I think I think they would old Yeah, exactly trillion
zillions probably. It's like, uh, it's like the secrecy that's
involved in this this project they have, like they're all
on this island right like, uh, they're not allowed to
talk about who they were before. They're not fucking letting
this guy get his own body and just go out because.
Speaker 1: If he for him to pull off something like this
is the Prodigy shady company. Yes, but look what they
did with the brother. They were definitely gonna, you know,
screw him over financially for now, but they're gonna screw
them over financially. But they did give him a replacement lung,
and they've been pretty open with him, Okay, we have
these alien entities, we're doing experiments, YadA. So I think
that there is a varying degree of uh, you know, inclusion,
and so I think that they probably would give him
one because that's what they wanted to do, each one
bigger than the last. On his hands, on his feet,
you know, everywhere, everything, everywhere, all exactly. But I think
like even Prodigy made a point of saying, like, you're
gonna be on the top of the list when we
get to doing it, because we are not at that
point technologically for adults to make that transfer. So I
think like that's their goal. They want to create this,
these bodies for adults to transfer into. So I mean,
this guy wants to do it, then we'll do it,
especially because he's giving us all these alien entities and whatnot,
so that proves to be i'd say, him being a
valuable asset in the future if they needed him for
something too. So I think that there is a high
chance that they were going to give him what he
wanted but there's no chance he was going to survive
letting these fucking aliens out. He chose to let out
two fucking face huggers, Like, are you kidding me?
Speaker 2: Two of them?
Speaker 1: You have two Xeno wars running around? And what was
this plan? They were gonna run around and then the
ship like seventeen days two weeks out? He's gonna survive
two weeks with these fucking aliens running around? Yeah, and
I guess he thought that, Okay, they would have put
them in the cryal and it would have been fine
as he sabotages the ship, but like, he didn't have
to let them out. All you have to do is
sabotage the ship and then just go back into cryal
and go to slip. Well, no, because then he would
have what happened?
Speaker 2: Did he let them out? Or was there just eggs
in the cargo that they worked out? Because somebody was in.
Speaker 1: That room he opened the containment uh casings because they
were in like two boxes and you can see in
the camera the door opening slowly, So.
Speaker 2: You okay, forgot about that detail? Yeah that's right? Yeah, Yeah,
what was I gonna say? I'm like, uh, I can't
remember some weird time. I don't remember. I did like
just the chaos of everything that was going on I
already mentioned, but I like just the added factor of
like we have fire, we have Zeno's, we have polluted water,
we have people doing science with open water container. You know,
we got def Con five situation here, and uh and
like half the crew and this is a goofy thing
where I feel like it's stupid, but I still enjoyed it.
Like most of the crew, they just don't really care,
you know, like we're getting home soon a tunnel. At
this point in time, there is what's been known to
us the most apex apex apex species in the entire universe,
just hunting humans in the fucking ceiling. Uh you got
you got face huggers, face hugging people who could yeah
sprout some uh some some some bad things. And then
just Moreau is just in his he's in his security lab,
just on the monitors, which aesthetically looks so sweet. Does
not bug me seeing these weird like eighties era TVs,
you know, with future technology, this is like my favorite
type of just what's the word, I'm looking like like
future tech where it's like old, dirty grimy, Like I
I just love these aesthetic there's always just like vents
like gassing all time. For whatever reason. Moreau is like
huffing these big Cuban cigars throughout this episode. Uh, and
I thought he had one when he was on the
monitor because he like he's just he's got like ten
monitors in front of him, and I'm saying monitors, but
they're basically just these eighties CRT TV's big glass bulbous
on the front and he's just like on his chair
like going down the line and just just looking at
them all and there's just this like vent just gassing steam.
I imagine that like the ship has to be so
hot into this room, but man, aesthetically it looks so
fucking cool. I love it so much. I love the
buttons that he has where they don't have anything on them,
they're just lights and he's just clicking them away. Yeah.
Esthetically that this was just such an awesome adventure back
into like these types of whaling Utahani ships, which I
just love. And I think that's why this stood out
so much to me as being like my favorite episodes
so far, because it's like, oh, yeah, this is the
alien that I know in love, whereas when we're on Earth,
like the attempt to try and tell new stories like that,
that's not the stuff that I'm disinterested in. It's just
what I'm seeing here of like calling back to my nostalgia.
I think that's why I lift it up so much
higher in comparison to just some of the areas that
we've gone in in the show so far. Yeah, there
was something else I was gonna throw, but I can't
quite remember.
Speaker 1: There was a scene where he's doing his interviews Morrow
and he's interviewing the science officer and she's ripen well
that's right. He's like, you're sweating, and he's like, yeah,
you know, it's just it's it's you know, she recycled
farts and whatnot. But like he's he is sweating, but
literally there's he's like what the fuck because there's like
water dripping off the ceiling and just spouting all over
his face, so it looks like he's fucking sweating. Uh yeah,
just to add to the scenery of that room, really
really cool aesthetic and whatnot.
Speaker 2: So yeah, and then you've got think, there's only two
interviews you did, one with that guy and then the
other one with Tang, who.
Speaker 1: Is he.
Speaker 2: He's not human? Is he?
Speaker 1: No? He was, he was a synthetic and he just
there's something off with him as a synthetic.
Speaker 2: He was very odd, very like keep an eye on
that guy type of mood I'm getting with this one.
I loved it though, because he's like speaking to riddles,
like every time that we see him Moreau, he's like
your coarser again, it's fucked up, Matt. It's just like
the whole situation that Tang's doing with that with that
chick is just so odd, very just yeah odd duck.
He's chained smoking these cigarettes. He's just he just seems
so yeah, I don't know, odd throughout the whole thing.
The most human reaction I've ever seen is when he's
in the interrogation chamber and he looks up and he
just sees the fucking xenomorph above him and he's doing
like the will of Defoe, like oh no, and he
just screams. He like yells, which was so like uncharacteristic
to this, like super just trippy calm. I'll say stoic
because I can't really think of a better word to use.
But he's just like so like reserved in his emotions,
like he doesn't like freak out when people get face
hugg or anything. Then he looks up and you know
it's gonna be scary when this motherfucker is like shit
in his pants. I I just I couldn't believe his
reaction because it was so different than what I would
have expected. And yeah, he got fucked up. I'm assuming
we didn't see it. It fully happened, but he got like,
do Zinos have a use for this guy, right if
he's a synthetic.
Speaker 1: No, no, they're they're killing for sure. That's what the
other guy, the other fighter guy uh reported too that
he got he got sucked up. Yeah, very peculiar. And
they just had him there for just yeah, creating weird drama,
I guess. But yeah, just the scene where you see
him in this episode standing over the girl that he
likes and he like places his hand. There was so
much just different, like interesting shots because when the new
captain pours the dirt from Utah on the the cryo
tube of her lover.
Speaker 2: You can see what's the state Utah. Okay, it sounded weird. Uda, Uda,
I don't know, are starting to go Okay, So she pours.
Speaker 1: The dirt and it lands on the spot in the
crowd too. But the way the cameras showcasing it, it
shows like the dirt looks red and it's right on
his chest with these you know it's gonna burst out.
And then later on it shows where.
Speaker 2: This this quick cut to them fucking too.
Speaker 1: Yeah me off guard? Crap, Yeah, I caught me off
guard completely. It looked like it was in the cryal world,
like the Aliens are on the eggs and ships. They're
just you know, people got their kinks. But the scene
though after that, where Tang was just watching the girl.
He puts his hand down on the cryal too, but
his hand is placed right over like her location of
the Nether regions. I thought, I feel like there's just
a lot of shots in here that are intentional. I know,
Alien has always had that kind of supposed to have
that focal point on just you know, just.
Speaker 2: Say it.
Speaker 1: Just rape and just that that just like insecure, just
like I just just it's it's not good, but it's
it's focusing on that, and I feel like, Okay, there's
something going on with Tang and the way all the
crew kind of knows it and is just addressing it loosely,
and like even the one guy's like, oh, you know,
I'm to go tell the captain about you. The captain's dead.
It's like, oh god, yeah, fucked this is so fucked
so and the girl. I feel bad for the girl
because you know, obviously she dies in her cry oud tube.
Son't doesn't get to Yeah, I know the extent of
how fucked up this guy is, but it seems like
there was some kind of pre existing notion, like she
was uncomfortable with him or whatever. But we'll never know now.
Speaker 2: I like, hope there's more. I don't. No, I don't
know why I'm saying that. I don't think there will be,
and I I don't really understand the decision to like
make that and yeah, because that's because it's not like
it's gonna be picked up, Like that's what I was
gonna say. I was gonna say. I hope, uh, you know,
we get a little more backstory on what the fuck
actually was going on of just who this other individual is,
like why Tang just just gets drawn to that individual.
But I don't think we ever will because they're dead
now and nobody will answer that. And I don't. I
don't really need to know. I don't really answers now
that I'm doing on it.
Speaker 1: Yeah, unless there is some some other mission he had
or some reasonab why I I just don't.
Speaker 2: I guess not Whalen Utani. It would be Whalen's offspring.
That's impossible.
Speaker 1: There was a line that Bishop says that, yeah, the
statement the B two's were a bit Oh no, that
was a misquote. What did he say, Oh, the A
twos were a bit twitchy. I'm assuming mister tang is sexual.
Oh yeah, yeah, twitchy erratic behavior. There is Uh, this
is a side note what I was reading Gosh hang
out with Me other Aliens. It seems like and I
think we talked talked about this in the Aliens Retrospective
because when the colonial Marines were on the ship, they
were talking about bug hunts, which tells me, Okay, maybe
they've encountered some of these other species before, aside from
the Xenomorse, and they just never were able to encounter
xenomorse after the fact. But then Octurians they mentioned that,
And Octurians have never been mentioned in any other like
IP I don't think of like Aliens or even predators
or whatnot, but they talk about how the octarians like
bipedal and like similar to humans or whatnot. And now
they're like colonal marines are talking about like sleeping around
with them and stuff like that. So it just it
seems like like in this world there are other like
conscious sentient humanoid beings. Obviously we know with predators and
with the pro the space jockeys, but it seems like
there's even a further step with this. I don't know
why I'm going down this this side tangent. It just
it popped into my head when we're talking about different.
Speaker 2: Alien species and yeah, fucking them all.
Speaker 1: Back to the eyes, you know.
Speaker 2: Circle full certain act.
Speaker 1: Yeah, anything else that you have, let me just check
my notes here.
Speaker 2: I wrote some things down. Oh as for my name, Yeah,
I like that line when uh moreau confriends like the
new captain. She's like, you're fucking them, aren't you. She's like,
you don't get lonely in space. And I'm like, man,
if you were signing up to go to space for
sixty five years and you're and you're like, well, I'll
just hold it, you know, I'll just hold all my urges,
Like come on, you gotta be prepared. You got to
have whatever you're doing, whether you got sex toys or something.
There's the jerk Off station.
Speaker 1: That robot arm.
Speaker 2: You know what he's doing. Oh yeah, I'm sure he's
he's a master. Oh yeah, but yeah, no, it's uh.
I just I just feel like this is something that
they should have like prepared for, right, Like you get water,
you get food. There's probably a gym or something on
the ship. Sixty five years a long time. I know
you're in croyud for a lot of that. But humans,
you know, we're mammals. We get sexual aerages, so you
gotta figure out a way to address that. But anyways,
oh yeah, and then my name I changed it to
Voyeur just because Moreau was just just watching people this
this one and it just sounded funny. So there you go.
I wrote down that this crew is probably the dumbest
crew that Wail and new TONI ever could have hired,
especially for this being like probably the most critical I
would argue a lot more critical than what Ripley's vision was.
We already talked about tang oh Man when I think
his name is Clem. He's like the younger Chap who
is working kind of with Moreau. Moreau gives him a gun,
and when they're going down to the science ye area,
like they're looking for I can't remember his name now,
but the like the saboteur guy that they have a name. Now,
they kind of know who they're looking for. Do a
quick shootout. This kid gets fucked up. I think he
gets shot like five times in this scene, gets shot
on the shoulder, gets shot in the leg. When they're
going into the lab, which is like, man, what a
terrible area to like have your like stand down, like
you got just creatures free in this room and you're
just gonna sneak in there. Whatever dire straits. I get it.
I just found it hilarious that Moreau like has Clem
next to him. Clem's like bleeding out, Moreau's like aiming
at the door. It's like, don't worry, man, we're gonna
get out of this. Because the guy like pops into
this room and like they show from his angle. I
don't even know how he fucking got this shot off,
because it's like Moreau and then this kid that's showing
probably five percent of his body is actually exposed, whereas
Moreau is like a good forty eight percent. I'll say,
just for argument's sake, this guy fucking domes this poor
kid like behind the terrain as if he's using like
ballistic bullets. It just goes right through headshots like he
wasn't even trying to get Moreau. This is like a
master assassin trying to take I just I just found
it so funny, especially like he gets clipped right in
the head and then it goes back to the other
guy's perspective and I'm like, I don't understand how he
made the shot.
Speaker 1: That is just he wasn't naming at Moreau at all.
Like he shoots, he shoots the young guy in the shoulder,
shoots him again in the leg, and then goes to
that headshot.
Speaker 2: Targeted, you know, target acquired. He fucking took out the
guy that he was going for. Oh yeah, you kind
of brought it up in the spoiler free section, but
the human like Zeno a little too humanoid for me
in certain the scenes. It didn't help that you have
this guy like riding on his head and like the
Xeno is just flailing around like some drunk idiot when
he's when he's like curled up looks a lot better.
But yeah, just just the certain shots look very alien
in suit, which is like they have some humanoid traits.
So I don't want to be that guy that's like
his arm is ten inches too long here in this scene.
Whatever it might be. But uh, there's just a beauty
to hiding the beast, you know where I don't know,
I sound like some some winer here, so I'll stop. Yeah,
I fucking hate these xeno chase scenes. I hope I
don't get another one in this show where it's like
a thousand meters so this character runs even though they
started right next to the Zeno don't make sense. Right
at the end when you Tawny is conversing with Moreau
and she's like, you know, the lawyers are coming in
he go out for arbitration, and Moro's like, no, that's
not gonna fucking work. You gotta do it my way,
and my way is I'm gonna kill boy Cavalier. And
then she doesn't really say too much and then she's
walking away. She's like, give him anything he wants and
you go. But like I think it's called like Cheru
Brock or something. It's like very just I forgot about
this song. I feel like it's like a guitar hero song,
but it just it's like an early two thousand song,
sounded very out out of place. And then it goes
to Moroa, just like looking out of the town, and
it just it just seems so weird of her being
like give him anything want or anything he wants, and
he just looks out He's like, this city's mine, I
can take anything.
Speaker 1: Now.
Speaker 2: I know that's not what actually was said, but just
the way that that he looked out in the world,
it just seemed really strange to me with the music
coming in. Didn't love it there.
Speaker 1: Do you think there's a chance, and this is probably
a long shot or stretch, that his daughter could be
recreated as like a synth or something.
Speaker 2: Like that, like one of the Lost boy children.
Speaker 1: People Prodigy is supposed to be the smartest guy in
the room, and if they know that this guy is
talking to one of the Lost children, so maybe probably
she does something to fuck with him.
Speaker 2: I think mind games perhaps, but not not like his
actual daughter. I think his actual daughter dead dead. Yeah,
that's that's an interesting theory because like that could be
a big mind fuck. But at the same time, Like,
I don't think Prodigy would have known about this guy
back then, right, And it seemed like wailing Utawny Corporation
is kind of the ones that, uh, I don't know
what they like were providing for the child or anything.
It just it just seemed like they knew that she died.
There's like a fire or something. I don't know. I
wouldn't be surprised if there's a little bit more to that,
just to like give him a row a turn there,
because it just seems like he's so pro Utawny Corporation,
which I don't even know it's a bad thing because
I hate boy Wonder. So this is the assassin. They
should have fucking kept the other guy alive, hired the
guy that headshoted Cleam. That guy don't miss He's a
bullseye in this. But I digress. The confession videos, I
just found it kind of funny when just the little
quick montage morros seeing them all and we see like
the actual captain, It's like, hey, I met a girl.
Speaker 1: That's not the actual captain. That's the second The second.
Speaker 2: Was the first captain.
Speaker 1: The first there's the captain, and then there was the
second runner up. Guy who met the girl and was
fucking in the cars was.
Speaker 2: The first captain.
Speaker 1: The first captain was like an older man that we
saw in the first episode, and he so he ran
into the vault first and he got slapped on first,
and then the other guy got hit second.
Speaker 2: Right, Okay, I forgot about that chap. Good good reminder there. Yeah,
it was just it was just a funny video. Soo
as he says that, like ro just like hits next.
He's just like so pissed off seeing these people with
their little confession videos. It was just a funny little one.
There's some other funny ones in there for two and
then just shouting out again. Just really cool camera work
shots in this really cool angles of like I think
it's specifically when Clem and Moreau go into that room
when they're doing the shootout and at some point like
the camera or no, sorry, I'm thinking of the earlier one.
It's when they're evacing the science room the two ladies,
and like the camera's kind of below a table and
then it like rises and follows them, but it allows
us to see the eyeball like moving around underneath the table.
Just a couple cool camera work plays like that throughout
the episode. I found it. It's probably been throughout the
whole show, but I think it's just because it's on
one of my favorite settings in all of film. This
like just claustrophobic ship that just looks really cool, whether
it's the sounds going off or the lights, a lot
of hallway shots that just slowly transition over to the
room and I just love that stuff because it reminds
me of the first Alien. When you don't see the alien,
You're like, where is this creature on this space ship?
Like it's got to be around here somewhere. So yeah,
and then just of course seeing the mother room is
such a cool design, even though it's very simple. Yeah,
I love a look at that. And I've already shouted
out the security room, so those were kind of all
my positive shout outs there at the end. Perfect cool.
Speaker 1: I don't have anything else in my notes. Uh So,
I think I think that does it. I think it
does all cool. Cool.
Speaker 2: Well, yeah, we not me.
Speaker 1: You and Travis will be back next week. I won't
be here for that episode on next Tuesday. Uh so, Yeah,
thank you for tuning in, and we'll be back soon. Yeah,
so we'll see you in the search bar, have a
good one.
Speaker 2: Mm hmm