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Speaker 1: Hello, ladies and gentlemen, Welcome back to another episode of

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geek Verse podcast. I am one of your hosts, the

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mother Taylor Field, and I'm joined.

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Speaker 2: By I am the lonely Boyeur.

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Speaker 1: I realize your name.

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Speaker 2: That's good.

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Speaker 1: Uh yeah, we are here because we're continuing on with

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episode five of Alien Earth. I think it was just

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you and me last week, wasn't it.

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Speaker 2: That's right, Travis got it, Eaton, he got You know,

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there's there's a Zeno egg just jest dating in his

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chest right now, ready to burds. Maybe it's already Bursted.

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We haven't. We haven't seen him in a while.

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Speaker 1: He thought it was a biological survey on rocks and.

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Speaker 2: Didn't work out for what a fool.

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Speaker 1: Yes, but before we get into the non spoilers thoughts

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and spoilers thoughts plugs, you can find us with your

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Internet connection in the search bar. Geek vers dot ca

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geek Verse podcasters or Facebook. I guess I shouldn't say

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Twitter yet anymore. It's X now. I gotta make sure

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I change into that.

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Speaker 2: I think search Twitter it'll pop up. I'm not gonna

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do that in test so somebody else is gonna have

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to go do.

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Speaker 1: That someone else, yes of us. Uh, but yeah, we

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got lots of stuff popping off right now. Is a

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TV show like season right now, because we got Alien Earth,

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We've got Peacemaker season two, We've got gen v the

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season two coming around the corner here, We've got Dexter

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finale coming up here this Thursday. So lots and lots

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and lots of stuff going on, and we just the

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drop for it, Welcome to Dary that's coming ont end

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of October. So it'll be nine episodes, I believe, So

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we're gonna be checking that out and reviewing it too,

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and then lots of stuff. Travis was working on the

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schedule today and lots of things are kind of you know,

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driving around seeing what's what's up, what's releasing soon, So

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lots of good stuff. In terms of movies. Uh, we're

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not doing a conjuring Last Rites review because I'm out

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of town. So unless you want to go see it

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with Travis, then you guys can do you No not happening, Okay.

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Speaker 2: Well, Joe Biden me, but I think I think I'll

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get copyrighted for the music, so maybe I can't pull

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that one in, I'll use your reverse version.

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Speaker 1: Yes, and that works, and that doesn't see that reverse version.

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So for context, Kirkland has the version of normal where

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Joe Biden's walking on the Michael Bay Transformers credits pops

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in and so I did the reverse showing like no,

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I'm in, like, let's let's do this. I'm not walking away,

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I'm walking into the issue.

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Speaker 2: But you literally played the video in reverse, so it

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starts with the credits and it's the song like backwards.

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And at first I'm like, what video did he send here?

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Like I thought you were just like a different movie

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because the song sounded different. But thought that one caught

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me for for a loop for sure. Inside joke, inside joke.

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Speaker 1: Yeah yeah, but yeah. Other than that, get Patreon ad

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free early episodes. There's tons of stuff just on the Patreons.

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A good time that we're gonna be doing this week,

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Speaker 2: Games games to the movies. So this was the other

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set of two.

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Speaker 1: That's right. So lots of good stuff, lots of good stuff,

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but the bestest of all the good stuff is the

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Patreon producers. We got a shout out here, Aaron Braden,

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Speaker 2: So yeah, there you go.

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Speaker 1: Oh what else is cooking up? We just did a

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bunch of side quest stuff, Well, I guess I did.

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We all did the Trivia, which is a great episode,

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go check that out. And then I did a PsyD

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quest earlier this week where me and Dylan were talking

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heavy on the high Divers Hell Divers, and then Dylan

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was also talking about the new Prince of Persia game

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he was dabbling in on, and then we kind of

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break down the remaining games that are gonna be releasing

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till this this year and what kind of stuff Nintendo

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might have around the corner, because it is Nintendo's fortieth anniversary,

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so that's coming up. That's this month and for their

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thirty fifth universe. Oh, I'm assuming I'm still in the

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call here doing I'm live, because Kirkland just disappeared. Okay,

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Kirklin's back. I thought I lost.

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Speaker 2: I centainly hit the button. That's I don't think that's

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ever happened. I mean, it's probably happened once or twice before.

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Speaker 1: It's better than ends stream.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, it's true. I kept you going.

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Speaker 1: But yeah, lots of lots of stuff, lots stuff popping off.

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But anyways, let's uh, let's get into our non spoilers

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thoughts here, Kirkland, how did you feel about this episode?

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Speaker 2: Yeah, episode number five, I think it was. This one

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was titled in Space Nobody Hears You Dot Dot Dot,

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which is, you know, calling back to the the og

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Alien movie and this movie or this episode in particular,

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you know, minor spoilers, it's very much that it's kind

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of a flashback episode to not in the Nostromo, but

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just this ship and kind of picking up, filling in

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the gaps maybe I'll say not picking up, but yeah,

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just just going over the stuff that was shown in

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the first episode, and I think this might be my

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favorite episode. It's it's not a perfect episode. There's definitely

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things in here that just have me head scratching and

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certain canonical weight that this this show is continuing to

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kind of kind of it's it's tempering me a little bit.

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I think before it's like, Okay, I'm liking this stuff,

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but just the more I think about where it lies

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in the chronological order of things, of just the story

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of and you know, maybe there's a lot of people

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out there that this is working for them on like

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filling in the pre cool gaps for the just the

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alien xenomorph, you know, universe as a whole, just throughout

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all the project.

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Speaker 1: But for me.

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Speaker 2: Personally, it's it's bringing up more issues than than not.

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And I think in this episode for sure, it's it's

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like another one of those big where I like, especially

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at the end of the episode, I kind of had

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to be like, Okay, I think I'm just gonna have

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to head canon now for for for stuff that I

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wanted and don't like, but which is fine. Everybody's allowed

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to do that. You can make your own head canon. No,

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but I think I still think there is a lot

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of fun stuff in this episode. There's some fantastic camera

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work and like lighting, the claustrophobic feel of what like

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the other alien movies have that take place on a

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spaceship like this one very much has it again. And

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not that we didn't have those moments throughout the season

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so far, but because this episode is just on a

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space ship like it, it it it feels so much

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more to that level. Yeah, no, I'm gonna save my

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thoughts on the characters till spoilers. Yeah, I guess not

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spoiler stuff I can say added on to what I

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was just finishing off with, like it. It definitely is

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a beautifully looking episode. I think, just all like the

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practical effects that they use, whether it's the sets on

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the ship, it just looks so fantastic and uh yeah,

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just like costumes and then everything it looks really good.

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Speaker 1: There was a couple of.

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Speaker 2: Little minor moments that the UCGI where it would really

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stood out, but I understood why they used it, and

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and used uh yeah just for a small amount of time,

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it didn't bother me as much. But yeah, no, it

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was a fun time. I think there was a lot

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of i'll say, like goofy stuff that happened too that

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like just added to my enjoyment because I was laughing

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like that it was even happening. I don't know if

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that brings down like the quality, you know, I'll detail

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what that is when we get to the spoiler section.

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But it added to my enjoyment. So I had a

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fun time with those goofy moments, even if they were

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a little sill and uh, you know to some people

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that might take them out of the scenes, especially if

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it's trying to be like a really intense uh you

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know building up of of like the anticipation that the

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Alien franchise does so well. Yeah, no it uh some

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some goof some goofy stuff in here, and yeah, I

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think I'll leave it there cause I don't want to

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slip of the tongue more than I already did. And uh,

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I mean I do recommend it. I still think it

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is a fun show to follow week to week, and

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they do a good job at setting us up and

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keeping the interest there. I think for even though like myself,

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it's not my favorite type of substance that they're adding

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to the Alien franchise in terms of like filling in

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on like the five companies and and and just what

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Earth is like and uh, just just I don't know

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stuff like that, the sciencey aspect to it, Like it's

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it's not personally what I would have wanted now that

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I know what I've gotten, but uh, I mean, I'm

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kind of being nipicky when it comes to that stuff,

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twenty twenty five alien TV show and it still like

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looks really good and maybe has some of the feel

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of what you know, one of my favorite movies of

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all time started with So I'll pass to you, Taylor,

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Speaker 1: You think cool? Yeah, I think that this episode is

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probably my favorite so far because of just the the

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atmosphere and like the score, the soundbits that they drop

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in here. There's so many things that just call back

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to that original Alien that I really was just enjoying

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and eating up. Got a lot of backstory here that

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I also enjoyed. And there's certain scenes too, Like you're right,

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the CGI in certain moments was questionable. Could you tell

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that there's a guy in a suit? Absolutely? But I

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don't mind.

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Speaker 2: It, like it.

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Speaker 1: Kind of works for me because it just feels like

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the original seventies Alien movie, right with the guy in

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the suit.

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Speaker 2: What do you got? I mean, I wasn't gonna mention

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this zeno morph and but I guess you know it's

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the show Alien. There's this you know morph in this episode.

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in the original Alien, the guy in the suit is

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like very much not in the movie, right, Like you

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barely see him, and when you do, it's like a

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quick and like if you pause it, you can be like, hey,

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that looks like a human to a t. But I

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think in this, just in this episode alone, there was

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a lot of like full body you know, there's I'm

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spoiling already, but there Yeah, there's just like a clash

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a suit. But I I'm not gonna knock it for it.

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I like I was saying earlier, like I enjoyed it.

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maybe not what I would have wanted to like a

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I don't even know. I'm so conflicted on because I

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enjoyed it, but still it's it's goofy. But do I

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enjoy the goofiness if I'm being all serious, yes, sometimes.

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Speaker 1: Like it's it's tricky because most like most of the

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time we see xenomorphs, they are I don't know, they're

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they're very skinny and you can't tell it. I don't

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even think that they really have people in suits for

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the later films. I mean they must because they're not

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puppeteering them. I know, obviously, like a VPR the pread

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alien is a guy in a suit for sure, But

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a lot of the time, like the aliens, the way

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that they're contorted and small, like you don't really see

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them stand upright for human right.

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Speaker 2: So close ups right, like you see the head that's

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like the most notorious of the mouth and that's of that.

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Speaker 1: I can't see the like the aliens.

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Speaker 2: We see a lot of aliens, but not really standing

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up and like looking like a humanoid right, Like they're

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they're very serpentine and like like slithering on the roof

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and crawling around. So it's kind of hard to see

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the character and whatnot. And I think too, like just

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the head is a lot bigger than you the aliens

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that we've seen before. Like it felt like this head

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is like resident evil villain sized. You know, there's.

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Speaker 2: Another thing wrong with that every head I need a comparison.

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Speaker 1: But but that aside, Again, I liked the episode. There

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was some very freaky things going on in here, in

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just some very intense moments. So I think overall they

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did a very good job with it, and I'm excited

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to see where this is going to kind of go.

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a I don't won't call it a filler. Is it

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It's a satisfied meal that I just got to have

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with with this episode. So really really happy with it,

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and I think that they just they lended so many

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things to a t. The world building aspect is very

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very awesome too, which I guess we'll probably talk more

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about later in future episodes when we get a little

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and how this world works. Is we've never had that

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in Alien before really this emphasis in this showcase of

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how the economy and the planet Earth is run now

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with with things. But yeah, that's that's all I got

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for non spoilers. Anything else you want.

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Do you think we're gonna see like another company before

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this season's over?

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Speaker 2: There's two in play right now, right, and then five total?

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Speaker 1: Five in total. I think I think we could see it.

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for whatever humans going forward.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I think that there's a chance, like when things

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are kind of contested, I think the other companies might

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John Ham, yeah, O the company exactly. But yeah, I

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companies at some point, because I mean, I don't think

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the other companies go, well they I don't think the

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other companies really existed at the time. Like before, when

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they're doing alien stuff, I think it was just wailing

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three other companies on top of that, so they must

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two or anything. I don't know how how far you

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can go with this story because it's two years, right,

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two years before the original Alien I think we talked about.

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so you could do anything just Earth's orbit, right, So

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then don't delete Earth. We have to at least keep Earth.

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we know Pange is back. We don't know what's going on,

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it and come back. But until then you've been warned.

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So we'll be right back and we are back. You

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breaks cease to exist. So yeah, support, I think that nice.

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Speaker 1: That was good, all right, So where do you want

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to start off with in spoiler territory.

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Speaker 2: I had a thought and it kind of fleeted me,

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but I think it'll come back to me. But yeah,

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I think a good place to start my plan B

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for locations I want to start is just the the

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oh I thought I had it for a second. Never whatever,

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whatever'll it'll come back to me. Is just where we

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are kind of in this episode, and the fact that

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we know the end result right, like we've seen I'll

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have to pull up the list of characters names because

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I'm gonna butcher them all. But like the acting captain,

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the female lady there, like we've seen her get fucked

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up at Moreau is in the mother room and then

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he just like seals the door on her, like we've

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already seen that scene. So uh, it's it's just an

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interesting factor, you know, when you know the end result,

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but like you know, the the episode starts with all

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of them together, and like like I was watching this

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episode with Shay and I'm just like, see that character, Yeah,

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they're already dead. They're already dead. That character, Yeah they're

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dead too. Every like everyone's dead, but Moreau essentially in

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this circumstance, which I think can be I can understand

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people like having I don't know, maybe maybe I disagree

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with that actually, because I like the idea of showing

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us like the end and then and then filling in

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the cracks within like one season. I'm glad it wasn't

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like a finale. I think there would have been some

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some lackluster stuff there, because this episode very much feels

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like just like a mini short alien movie, right, like

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we kind of go through all the main points instead

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of like making contact with something. It's like, hey, they

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already have the specimens. The first time we see someone

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that interacted with the eggs, like they're already they're already

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on them, like they're already face hugging one of the dudes,

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his throats just burnt completely off, like they're they're escalating here,

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but it's underweight, right, And it definitely follows the same

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idea of like eventually it bursts out. Now we got

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a zeno on the ship, but they didn't really know

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what's going on. I did like the added factor of,

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like the other specimens that we're trying to kind of

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deal with, we also have an arsonist on the ship

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that's that's that's doing stuff there, So I I really

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liked just the like the setup of of of what's

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happening of Like I already already mentioned all those different factors,

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and we're kind of following mostly just Moreau. We kind

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of bounce in and like on everyone, but he is

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the security guy. He's trying to figure out what the

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fuck is happening on his ship, and I just liked

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following that character. And that's a character that's been very

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just a big question mark I think throughout the whole season,

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Like we knew that he had to because well, we

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assumed he had a daughter because of what he told

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the one lost boy. I think it was just last

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week's episode, but that could have been a lie right

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until we actually see it, which we did this episode,

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and we see that he truly did have a backstory there.

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So we learned some more about that character, which I

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am totally interested in now a little bit less so

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because of the less scene, Like I feel like it

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came down, you know, some point decimal notches. But I

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really like the actor. I think he's he's doing a

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standout job of just being so cold and calculated, especially

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being a cyborg not a synth like Timothy almost said

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Shay may Oliphant where he's like a very robotic you know,

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like just he doesn't show emotion or anything, where Moreau

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very much gets there that he gets angry, he gets

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some people's faces. But I just think it's such a

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killer performance for that type of role, especially usually we

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have the sense in that position, right, whether it's Bishop

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or I always forget the aliens guy the m v

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p mm m.

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Speaker 3: Oh my god, Oh it's on the my tongue. Oh, Jesus, Jesus,

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Oh what is his name? It's like, uh ah a.

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Speaker 2: Apologize your listeners probably screaming at your headphones.

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Speaker 1: Oh my god, it's right there.

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Speaker 2: Man. You keep you keep pondering. But yeah, we have

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the cyborg character. Now I'm in the back of my

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head thinking about who it could be, but just just

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following him and him dealing with this this crew. I

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don't even know what what point is on. Ah, there

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we go. M v p ash, Yeah she has it, Ash,

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she's a real one. But why was I on the

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morea topic? Oh yeah, just just getting back to what

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I was at the start of saying, yeah, what do

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you feel about the setup here? Taylor of us knowing

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the end result, but just going through the whole elements.

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Then of course, as we're ramping up, characters are dying.

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Now Moro's in the mother like room, so we kind

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of know exactly where we are right now. So, yeah,

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how did this hit for you? Because for me it

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worked at least the uh, the pacing and the spacing

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of everything on how they did.

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Speaker 1: This pacing in the spacing, I like that. I usually

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have sometimes a problem with knowing where it's gonna end,

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but I think for the most part, like I'm down

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to see the adventure. I'm down to see the action.

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Like I'm the kind of guy like if we got

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a Clone Wars movie live action, I'm there, sign me up.

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I know it's gonna end, but I'm ready and willing

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let's do it. So in this context, yeah, getting to

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see how the ship falls apart, I like it. I

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like the introduction of the sabatur I like the introduction

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of just a degree of other factors that are in

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core part of And You're right, there are some absolute

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goofy people doing goofy things here, but it almost seems

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like it's I think it looks goofy because we're seeing

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it from a different perspective. And I'm assuming you're meaning

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the lady that's like checking out the bugs and like

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putting the rat in the bug tin, and like the eyeball,

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playing games everything with the eye. I wasn't sure how

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I would like it, and the other things, Like the

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other creatures that we've seen so far, they seem very animalistic,

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like they're obviously very parasitical, but they're very animalistic and

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they just have one instinct, right, It's like, Okay, I

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just need to survive and reproduce, survive, reproduce, like any

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living creature needs to do. Just that's what they do.

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And so when you look at the eye, the eye

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is different because it's intelligent, but not intelligent from the

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same point of like a xenomorph. A xenomorph is very intelligent.

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It can learn. You can't I don't want to say

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you can reason with it, but you can have acknowledgments

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with it. Because if you're threatening the queen, for example,

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a xenomorphos got back off and listen to the queen.

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So there's different types of varying degrees of intelligence. And

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so in that scene, in particular with the crazy lady

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drinking the water, not drinking the water, but fucking around. Uh.

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I liked how the eyeball was operating because it's just

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being different, a different form of intelligence, Like it was

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like a It had like an evil super villain human

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intelligence to it, compared to a xenomorph, where it's thinking

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as a hive mind intelligence and like survivability, which I like.

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I like how the eye was tapping on the glass

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getting the woman to look away so it wouldn't notice

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the insect crawling out, and I thought first.

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Speaker 2: I thought it was on her side like water water.

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I was like, oh my god, what is happening here?

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We're going down like a hero route with this fucking eyeball.

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But I'm glad they didn't go that way.

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Speaker 1: I'm glad they didn't go that way either. That sent

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me for a loop though, just so I thought the

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one was gonna drink it, but I was I was

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thinking back to the first episode. They're like, oh, this

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guy's got things in his and his intestines or whatever.

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They're not there now, And I say, Okay, how's this

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gonna play out in this episode? Yeah, just as soon

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as it crawled on top of the bottle and shot

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that shit down into the water.

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Speaker 2: Ah fuck. Yeah, I I am interested in the eyeball creature.

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I'll say that I did not like that scene at all.

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I other than Moreau, I think this is like the

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dumbest fucking crew that Waylan EUTAWNI could have assembled, like man,

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the just going down the list, like the science, the

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science person, the lady in the lab. They're just munching

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a big mac open food. She's working with like alien species,

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and I imagine she knows at least like some minor things.

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When it comes to science levels, you know, she must

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be a doctor. I'm saying science levels, so clearly I'm

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not a doctor, but like still, I feel like the

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thing they teach you in like science school, elementary, when

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you're when you're working with stuff is like people cleanliness

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and like actual like just taking it seriously. Where she's

471
00:24:05,200 --> 00:24:07,759
just like licking her fingers. She's got her giant water

472
00:24:07,880 --> 00:24:11,359
bottle that they just emphasize is just like completely filled

473
00:24:11,400 --> 00:24:13,039
to the brim. She puts it down and it's just

474
00:24:13,119 --> 00:24:14,920
like juicing all over the place. We do a zoom

475
00:24:14,920 --> 00:24:17,640
and shot on the water. Okay, something's gonna go in

476
00:24:17,720 --> 00:24:23,240
the water. That is the most foreshadow bottle, and then

477
00:24:23,599 --> 00:24:28,279
gry sandwich out. They have zero fucking like locking mechanisms

478
00:24:28,400 --> 00:24:30,160
on these devices. Now, I'm not saying they have to

479
00:24:30,279 --> 00:24:33,440
know that these aliens are like intelligent, but still, like

480
00:24:33,599 --> 00:24:36,039
I I just it baffles me that this little bug

481
00:24:36,160 --> 00:24:38,559
thing like we actually get like a lock pick scene

482
00:24:38,559 --> 00:24:41,319
where it like opens up, this cylinder gets out, just

483
00:24:41,400 --> 00:24:42,160
so ridiculous.

484
00:24:42,759 --> 00:24:44,440
Speaker 1: But there's a cap, right, there's supposed to be a

485
00:24:44,480 --> 00:24:46,119
cap that goes on and the guy gives he gives

486
00:24:46,160 --> 00:24:47,200
her shit about fairpoint.

487
00:24:47,240 --> 00:24:50,200
Speaker 2: Actually I kind of forgot about the cap. But she's

488
00:24:50,240 --> 00:24:52,880
still this guy who's not like this. This clearly isn't

489
00:24:53,200 --> 00:24:55,400
his role. She that's her lab and he's like, you

490
00:24:55,440 --> 00:24:57,599
should probably have the fucking cap on it, and she's like,

491
00:24:57,880 --> 00:25:01,039
oh I normally do. Oh right, yeah, So dumb of me,

492
00:25:01,759 --> 00:25:04,880
fucking idiot of a character that was bugging me so much.

493
00:25:06,559 --> 00:25:11,400
Who else the new captain who's like just so emotionally compromised.

494
00:25:11,400 --> 00:25:13,559
I don't know how she became the captain in this situation.

495
00:25:13,720 --> 00:25:16,640
She like freezes up anytime anything happens. She can't make

496
00:25:16,680 --> 00:25:19,160
a decisive choice. She can't even fucking get like the

497
00:25:19,200 --> 00:25:21,319
apprentice guy to pay attention to her when they're having

498
00:25:21,359 --> 00:25:25,039
the meeting. It just it was just a very pathetic

499
00:25:25,160 --> 00:25:27,160
crew and knowing that this is the one that's like

500
00:25:27,240 --> 00:25:30,519
responsible for like just getting like the actual species, Like

501
00:25:30,640 --> 00:25:32,960
this is more important than what Ripley's crew was supposed

502
00:25:33,000 --> 00:25:35,319
to be doing. Right, and they had they had Ash

503
00:25:36,160 --> 00:25:39,200
or not Ash, that's Aliens now. They had they had Biship,

504
00:25:39,440 --> 00:25:42,720
they had Ripley. You know who Ripley was, Like, I

505
00:25:43,000 --> 00:25:45,079
think she she did a lot more than maybe what

506
00:25:45,160 --> 00:25:47,480
she should have done on paper, but you know, she

507
00:25:47,599 --> 00:25:50,759
was a hero in disguise. But I still think just

508
00:25:50,839 --> 00:25:55,279
comparing these two crews, like even the who's like my

509
00:25:55,400 --> 00:25:59,000
favorite character that just freaks out in Alien.

510
00:25:58,519 --> 00:26:01,440
Speaker 1: When she's like no, not that way, not that way.

511
00:26:02,279 --> 00:26:04,160
Speaker 2: I'm blanking on all names right now. This is this

512
00:26:04,279 --> 00:26:06,559
is hurting me. But anyways, even that character I feel

513
00:26:06,599 --> 00:26:09,640
like would be a lot more competent than pretty much

514
00:26:09,680 --> 00:26:14,319
anyone on this roster. We have a couple more moments

515
00:26:14,400 --> 00:26:17,200
with the engineer guy like that, like the main engineer

516
00:26:17,319 --> 00:26:19,720
who's always with that that kid, the the apprentice guy

517
00:26:20,079 --> 00:26:22,079
who I feel like when we first saw in episode one,

518
00:26:22,119 --> 00:26:24,039
I'm like, all this guy's just a total asshole, just grumpy,

519
00:26:24,079 --> 00:26:25,359
but and this one, they actually gave him like some

520
00:26:25,480 --> 00:26:29,160
more human traits, So I appreciated that at least to

521
00:26:29,240 --> 00:26:32,480
an extent. But so yeah, I would say that guy

522
00:26:32,720 --> 00:26:34,839
was more of the smarter ones. I don't think there

523
00:26:34,880 --> 00:26:37,160
was any big moment that just had me pulling my

524
00:26:37,240 --> 00:26:39,519
hair out like it did for many of these these

525
00:26:39,640 --> 00:26:42,799
the yeah, just just what's going on here? And nobody

526
00:26:42,880 --> 00:26:45,680
really seemed to care when like people died either, Like

527
00:26:45,880 --> 00:26:48,079
when Moreau first goes in there, he wakes up, he's

528
00:26:48,160 --> 00:26:50,559
like fucking rock card, He's got no underwear on. He

529
00:26:50,599 --> 00:26:53,000
has underwear on. I'm just adding a little bit substance

530
00:26:53,000 --> 00:26:56,559
to the scene. Anyways, goes to the lab, there's just

531
00:26:56,640 --> 00:26:59,279
two face huggers on. These two characters, like, I don't

532
00:26:59,279 --> 00:27:01,440
know what to do. I try prying them off, and yeah,

533
00:27:01,480 --> 00:27:04,440
it just I kind of slits his throat, it melts

534
00:27:04,480 --> 00:27:06,920
it through, and they just like have no reaction to

535
00:27:06,960 --> 00:27:09,000
what's going on. Is if they've seen this face hugger,

536
00:27:09,160 --> 00:27:11,400
like as if they watched the Alien movie back in

537
00:27:11,440 --> 00:27:13,240
the seventies and they're like, I know exactly what this

538
00:27:13,319 --> 00:27:16,480
thing actually, I don't know. Just just like their behavior

539
00:27:17,119 --> 00:27:19,480
in that scene really bothered me. I'm gonna pass the

540
00:27:19,519 --> 00:27:22,880
mike because I've been rambling on these crew members. Do

541
00:27:22,920 --> 00:27:24,279
you agree with me? Do you disagree with me? And

542
00:27:24,319 --> 00:27:26,400
then what do you think about Moreau and anything else?

543
00:27:26,440 --> 00:27:29,319
I said, I apologize, I was rambling, So no, don't.

544
00:27:29,319 --> 00:27:31,799
Speaker 1: Don't apologize the context of Moro and his backstory with

545
00:27:31,880 --> 00:27:34,240
the daughter losing the daughter because there's like a house fire.

546
00:27:34,359 --> 00:27:35,839
I think it was like eight years into a sixty

547
00:27:35,920 --> 00:27:36,599
five year mission.

548
00:27:37,279 --> 00:27:40,640
Speaker 2: Fuck, oh, are you still motivated? You're like, yeah, I'm

549
00:27:40,640 --> 00:27:42,480
gonna I'm gonna do this eight years in out of

550
00:27:42,519 --> 00:27:44,759
your sixty five percent, and like in the in the

551
00:27:45,039 --> 00:27:47,240
the letter, it even said like her possessions will be

552
00:27:47,279 --> 00:27:50,640
handed to you in fifty three years time. It's fuck, man,

553
00:27:51,160 --> 00:27:51,880
that's brutal.

554
00:27:51,920 --> 00:27:53,519
Speaker 1: It's not even a quarter of the way into your

555
00:27:53,599 --> 00:27:58,119
trip and you're already just feeling like shit. Jesus Christ.

556
00:27:58,319 --> 00:27:58,720
Speaker 2: Yeah, so.

557
00:28:00,799 --> 00:28:04,319
Speaker 1: His motivations now are purely his work, and so I

558
00:28:04,559 --> 00:28:08,880
like that, and I like how I like how he's

559
00:28:09,000 --> 00:28:11,680
just he's not dark and like evil or brooding, but

560
00:28:11,799 --> 00:28:14,359
he's just like, Okay, no, everyone's expendable, even myself. This

561
00:28:14,519 --> 00:28:15,920
is what we're gonna do. This is how we're gonna

562
00:28:15,920 --> 00:28:17,680
go about it, YadA, YadA, YadA, And I like that

563
00:28:17,720 --> 00:28:20,000
he wants to take command. I really like everything with Moro.

564
00:28:20,119 --> 00:28:21,960
I really like that character a lot more now after

565
00:28:22,039 --> 00:28:24,119
this episode seeing everything. Is he still a piece of

566
00:28:24,160 --> 00:28:25,559
shit at the end of it because he doesn't let

567
00:28:25,599 --> 00:28:29,480
the girl in. Yes, and if he let the girl in,

568
00:28:29,680 --> 00:28:31,599
what would have happened. Two of them wouldn't have fit

569
00:28:31,680 --> 00:28:33,200
in that pod. Only one of them would have got

570
00:28:33,319 --> 00:28:35,400
in there. And he knows that he's willing to go

571
00:28:35,519 --> 00:28:38,000
and complete the mission, and she's not. She was freaking

572
00:28:38,039 --> 00:28:41,240
out everything like that. So it came down to as

573
00:28:41,279 --> 00:28:43,240
much as he's a jerk, he's following the orders and

574
00:28:43,279 --> 00:28:45,119
doing the mission and that's what he's committed to, and

575
00:28:45,160 --> 00:28:48,359
even after the crash, he's committed to it. But yeah,

576
00:28:48,599 --> 00:28:50,039
a lot of the stuff with the crew, they a

577
00:28:50,079 --> 00:28:54,640
lot of them are idiots, And I like this is

578
00:28:54,680 --> 00:28:57,279
where the saboteur kind of makes his entry and I

579
00:28:57,519 --> 00:28:59,839
like that a lot, just them with the fire going on,

580
00:29:00,079 --> 00:29:02,200
and then you see him checking out the video feeds

581
00:29:02,240 --> 00:29:04,880
and you see, okay, this is where the uh the

582
00:29:04,960 --> 00:29:07,519
face aggers come into play and do their impregnating and

583
00:29:07,640 --> 00:29:09,519
then the guy just trying to cut the tail off.

584
00:29:10,039 --> 00:29:13,319
They know about the xenomorphs, it seems like because they

585
00:29:13,359 --> 00:29:15,039
have that depbriefing and they say, okay, we're talking with

586
00:29:15,039 --> 00:29:21,400
a xenomorph. But it's like they don't know how It's

587
00:29:21,440 --> 00:29:25,480
tricky because we don't know exactly the extensive backstory of

588
00:29:25,559 --> 00:29:27,960
where they got the eggs from and the history here

589
00:29:28,039 --> 00:29:30,400
of what they know. They know that these things impregnate,

590
00:29:30,880 --> 00:29:34,000
but are we just assumed that, Okay, one of these

591
00:29:34,119 --> 00:29:36,279
landed on one of them because they know they know

592
00:29:36,480 --> 00:29:39,359
that a lot of their crew members have died collecting

593
00:29:39,400 --> 00:29:43,839
all these specimens, so one of them maybe got implanted,

594
00:29:44,119 --> 00:29:46,279
and then they couldn't get the face hugger off. They

595
00:29:46,279 --> 00:29:48,200
had to leave them behind. I don't know how that

596
00:29:48,240 --> 00:29:51,279
would have really worked. But they didn't know. What I'm

597
00:29:51,279 --> 00:29:52,920
trying to get is they didn't know the final size

598
00:29:52,960 --> 00:29:55,440
of what the xenomorph will get into, like how big

599
00:29:55,519 --> 00:29:58,640
do these things get? So they didn't know that stage yet,

600
00:29:58,720 --> 00:30:00,480
which to me tells me, Okay, they dealt with it

601
00:30:00,559 --> 00:30:02,880
at an early stage. They knew the baselines, They knew

602
00:30:02,880 --> 00:30:05,079
that it was gonna burst out. They know that they

603
00:30:05,119 --> 00:30:07,279
could basically survive in the vacuum of space, which is

604
00:30:07,359 --> 00:30:11,119
a great foreshadow to xenomorphin alien and an alien romulus,

605
00:30:11,160 --> 00:30:13,440
because that Zeno morph did survive in the vacuum of space.

606
00:30:14,200 --> 00:30:18,000
Uh So, Yeah, it's just interesting to see and learn

607
00:30:18,000 --> 00:30:20,160
a little bit more about the backstory here about what

608
00:30:20,359 --> 00:30:25,680
their their knowledge extension extension, no, their knowledge consisted of,

609
00:30:25,799 --> 00:30:27,640
and what they were aware of with these creatures. And

610
00:30:27,680 --> 00:30:30,519
again ill prepared, so like, yeah, not very smart at

611
00:30:30,559 --> 00:30:33,319
all getting to the lady with the food in the lab. Man,

612
00:30:33,359 --> 00:30:37,359
I'm totally with you, like I'm when I'm working with

613
00:30:37,640 --> 00:30:40,640
equipment and you know, I will I have a desk

614
00:30:40,759 --> 00:30:44,039
away from my machines that I'm operating. Yeah yo, yeah,

615
00:30:44,319 --> 00:30:46,799
I lean over stuff I printed dropping like jam and

616
00:30:46,880 --> 00:30:48,640
peanut butter all over the prince and stuff.

617
00:30:49,720 --> 00:30:52,039
Speaker 2: Oh man. And it bugs me so much that like

618
00:30:52,599 --> 00:30:55,279
she actually saw the giant fucking bug that got out

619
00:30:55,279 --> 00:30:57,519
and was just like squirming around in her sandwich, and

620
00:30:57,640 --> 00:31:00,240
she still like took that water, Like there's no old

621
00:31:00,359 --> 00:31:03,119
chance that that any I feel like I would have

622
00:31:03,200 --> 00:31:06,359
to deep scrub everything. I like, I would even touch

623
00:31:06,440 --> 00:31:09,240
my pin, let alone grab my open water bottle. Who

624
00:31:09,440 --> 00:31:12,000
who leaves the fucking water bottles open anyways, even if

625
00:31:12,039 --> 00:31:14,240
it's not in a science lab, it's not the grievance

626
00:31:14,279 --> 00:31:16,799
I have. But yeah, no, she is so stupid and

627
00:31:16,920 --> 00:31:18,839
deserves she deserved to drink the water and have the

628
00:31:18,920 --> 00:31:21,359
bloody cough. Honestly, Like, I think she got off way

629
00:31:21,480 --> 00:31:24,440
too easily with the little uh, the little fart spray

630
00:31:24,599 --> 00:31:25,960
that the bugs give them.

631
00:31:26,680 --> 00:31:29,119
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, I think that was just a quick way

632
00:31:29,160 --> 00:31:31,200
to kill off some people. But hey, I mean, I

633
00:31:31,240 --> 00:31:33,359
don't remember after we watched that first episode, but they

634
00:31:33,400 --> 00:31:35,079
say like all crew is dead, but like there were

635
00:31:35,079 --> 00:31:37,559
still crew in the capsules, but I guess they died

636
00:31:37,640 --> 00:31:40,720
and they crash die in their sleep, I imagine. Yeah,

637
00:31:40,960 --> 00:31:43,279
so that's yeah, that's.

638
00:31:43,240 --> 00:31:46,319
Speaker 2: Maybe moreau like shut off the cryo or something, because

639
00:31:46,319 --> 00:31:49,440
because he talks to mother before they crash and says

640
00:31:49,559 --> 00:31:54,720
all crews deceased, right, And I feel like it would

641
00:31:54,720 --> 00:31:57,559
be kind of a cardinal sin if he didn't, if

642
00:31:57,559 --> 00:32:00,200
he wasn't truthful, right, Like what if the l in

643
00:32:00,240 --> 00:32:04,880
the hallway just monoy Mono took on the zeno and

644
00:32:04,920 --> 00:32:05,880
she's alive right now.

645
00:32:06,240 --> 00:32:11,160
Speaker 1: Well taken on the zeno. I mean, fucking buddy elder mechanic. Sure,

646
00:32:11,240 --> 00:32:13,000
did like, and I know it wasn't him.

647
00:32:13,920 --> 00:32:16,440
Speaker 2: Okay, Okay, you know, we're kind all over the place,

648
00:32:16,559 --> 00:32:18,640
but I'm glad you went there because this was like

649
00:32:18,799 --> 00:32:22,920
a highlight for me. I actually I really loved what

650
00:32:23,079 --> 00:32:25,480
was going on with the eyeball thing. I don't love

651
00:32:25,640 --> 00:32:29,680
how this scene's taken place before the goat scene, because

652
00:32:29,680 --> 00:32:31,319
I thought that was like a big moment of when

653
00:32:31,359 --> 00:32:34,079
it takes over the sheep, you know, and it was

654
00:32:34,079 --> 00:32:36,400
the last week's episode. Now it's all blended together for me.

655
00:32:36,599 --> 00:32:38,920
But yeah, in last week's episode, takes the goat because

656
00:32:38,920 --> 00:32:40,279
it's like, okay, how is it going to take this

657
00:32:40,400 --> 00:32:43,400
vessel and get into a human? And then now it

658
00:32:43,720 --> 00:32:46,359
like I've already seen the human variant, so you know,

659
00:32:46,680 --> 00:32:49,119
a little bit less exciting for when we eventually get

660
00:32:49,160 --> 00:32:53,279
there looking creepy for sure. The behavior was great, kind

661
00:32:53,279 --> 00:32:56,359
of like zombie but still very intelligent. So I did, like,

662
00:32:56,799 --> 00:32:58,839
I think I just liked that creature and kind of

663
00:32:58,880 --> 00:33:01,160
the factor of what it was, what it has going

664
00:33:01,240 --> 00:33:03,160
on for itself. For the most part, I'll talk about

665
00:33:03,160 --> 00:33:05,240
the scene at the end. What's kind of at the

666
00:33:05,319 --> 00:33:07,440
end of the scene anyway, so I'll just keep going, Yeah,

667
00:33:08,200 --> 00:33:10,920
you got the eyeball guy do his fucking war cry,

668
00:33:11,039 --> 00:33:12,920
and then Alien comes in. It's like you called for me,

669
00:33:13,160 --> 00:33:15,480
like I thought it was like they're working together now

670
00:33:15,559 --> 00:33:18,000
and they're gonna explain this eyeball is like the chief

671
00:33:18,200 --> 00:33:21,440
commander of these Zenos, and I instantly I'm like, are

672
00:33:21,480 --> 00:33:23,319
you fucking kidding me right now? Like I actually I

673
00:33:23,319 --> 00:33:25,839
think I said that out loud. I was so disgusted

674
00:33:25,880 --> 00:33:27,359
with the idea of what was going to be happening

675
00:33:27,440 --> 00:33:31,720
that these Zeno's, these like most intelligent you know things

676
00:33:32,200 --> 00:33:36,519
in the galaxy, like just the prime alpha species, just

677
00:33:36,640 --> 00:33:40,119
a perfect organism, you know, as David would say, is

678
00:33:40,279 --> 00:33:42,960
led by these eyeball things, like just that possibility pop

679
00:33:43,039 --> 00:33:44,839
my head, Glad it isn't the case because they ended

680
00:33:44,920 --> 00:33:49,960
up clashing and you get fucking Burton Ernie, this guy

681
00:33:50,240 --> 00:33:56,240
with his eyeball. Joh fucking tackle it. And I've aired

682
00:33:56,319 --> 00:34:01,440
my grievances with maybe the last thereof power level when

683
00:34:01,440 --> 00:34:03,839
it comes to the Zeno specifically in this show. There's

684
00:34:03,880 --> 00:34:06,680
been multiple scenes in this episode also. It had the

685
00:34:06,720 --> 00:34:10,400
same scene where the Zeno locked eyes like literally this

686
00:34:10,559 --> 00:34:13,719
close for the audio listeners, I'm like within five inches

687
00:34:13,880 --> 00:34:16,880
of each other, and then right after that it goes

688
00:34:16,960 --> 00:34:20,639
to like a insane speed chase where this lady is

689
00:34:20,679 --> 00:34:22,920
now like five hundred meters in front of the Zeno,

690
00:34:23,039 --> 00:34:24,960
Like I don't understand that logic. This is the second

691
00:34:25,000 --> 00:34:25,320
time the.

692
00:34:26,159 --> 00:34:27,880
Speaker 1: Trips are right, and then it's gonna make a pounce

693
00:34:27,920 --> 00:34:30,079
on her. But she's like she pulls a quick one

694
00:34:30,119 --> 00:34:31,920
and gets up and runs really fast.

695
00:34:32,679 --> 00:34:34,400
Speaker 2: But like you're like, you know what I'm talking about,

696
00:34:34,559 --> 00:34:36,440
Like the camera shot that's chasing her. I'm like, hey,

697
00:34:36,480 --> 00:34:39,719
she's ran five hundred meters no less in this hallway

698
00:34:39,760 --> 00:34:41,360
and the Xeno is right in front of her, and

699
00:34:41,440 --> 00:34:44,960
it couldn't fucking take her out. Whatever, it's for dramatic effect,

700
00:34:45,239 --> 00:34:48,239
I'll give it a pass. But getting back, you know,

701
00:34:48,400 --> 00:34:50,239
getting side railed again, getting back to this guy with

702
00:34:50,280 --> 00:34:53,199
the eyeball who just fucking jumps on the Zeno and

703
00:34:53,360 --> 00:34:57,719
like grabs its head and like he's just he's riding

704
00:34:57,760 --> 00:34:59,559
him like a jockey, like it's left for dead, like

705
00:34:59,679 --> 00:35:02,840
on his head, and the Zeno is like freaking out

706
00:35:03,239 --> 00:35:07,159
for you know, like like freaks out and for I

707
00:35:07,199 --> 00:35:10,199
don't know, five ten seconds after that, you know, the

708
00:35:10,280 --> 00:35:12,519
Xeno remembers it has a tail, starts stabbing them in

709
00:35:13,000 --> 00:35:15,960
the body when win's the duel by the end, by

710
00:35:16,000 --> 00:35:17,679
the end of it, for sure, at least the human

711
00:35:17,800 --> 00:35:19,760
version of it, you know, the eyeball, that's like stage

712
00:35:19,800 --> 00:35:24,039
two of the fight. But in that moment, I honestly

713
00:35:24,079 --> 00:35:25,800
thought for a second that this thing was gonna just

714
00:35:25,880 --> 00:35:27,760
beat the shit out of the Zeno and just like

715
00:35:27,960 --> 00:35:30,360
break its back and just just just win. I thought

716
00:35:30,400 --> 00:35:32,039
it was just gonna win the battle. And I'm like, hey,

717
00:35:32,079 --> 00:35:34,360
this eyeball thing is definitely taken over the body. It

718
00:35:34,400 --> 00:35:36,760
probably doesn't feel pain to the same extent, but like,

719
00:35:37,159 --> 00:35:40,079
that's not a superhuman, Like it's the same guy's strength.

720
00:35:40,199 --> 00:35:42,840
Maybe it's elevated by like point whatever that the eyeball

721
00:35:42,920 --> 00:35:45,760
can give him. But I'm like, what do the humans

722
00:35:45,840 --> 00:35:48,880
not just fucking tackle these things? And like this this

723
00:35:49,079 --> 00:35:52,519
mechanic who's got like, you know, farmer strength. We've seen marines,

724
00:35:52,960 --> 00:35:56,280
We've seen like just so many capable fighters take on

725
00:35:56,400 --> 00:35:58,599
these zenos in the past, and it just doesn't seem

726
00:35:58,639 --> 00:36:01,079
like they have any chance of hand to hand combat.

727
00:36:01,119 --> 00:36:04,199
But in this moment, this one fucking mechanic just just

728
00:36:05,119 --> 00:36:07,199
you know, didn't win, but beat the shit out of

729
00:36:07,239 --> 00:36:08,440
the Zeno in my eyes.

730
00:36:08,840 --> 00:36:11,519
Speaker 1: Like I'm I'm definitely like if Zinos in front of me,

731
00:36:11,559 --> 00:36:13,159
I'm not gonna go toe to toe hand in hand

732
00:36:13,239 --> 00:36:14,000
with it, because.

733
00:36:13,960 --> 00:36:15,760
Speaker 2: I'm jumping for the head. I'm jump for that, you know.

734
00:36:15,840 --> 00:36:17,519
If I my loved ones and I have to defend

735
00:36:17,559 --> 00:36:21,159
my life, I'm gonna be like, there's a chance, there's

736
00:36:21,199 --> 00:36:22,960
a chance I win this. I'm gonna go for the

737
00:36:23,039 --> 00:36:25,360
Mike Tyson bite the ear, you know.

738
00:36:25,679 --> 00:36:28,159
Speaker 1: And that's what he did into him. Oh he bit

739
00:36:28,239 --> 00:36:30,920
that fucker. He made him bleed a little bit for sure.

740
00:36:31,400 --> 00:36:34,000
Speaker 2: Oh my god, if it bleeds, I can kill it.

741
00:36:34,079 --> 00:36:36,519
That's what the eyeball guy was thinking in that moment.

742
00:36:36,800 --> 00:36:39,519
I just couldn't believe his teeth like punctured the skin too.

743
00:36:39,599 --> 00:36:42,239
It's just stuff like that. It does bug me because

744
00:36:42,239 --> 00:36:46,280
it's like, this is the perfect organism, you know. Counter argument,

745
00:36:46,519 --> 00:36:49,079
maybe it's a youth, Maybe maybe it's a different strain

746
00:36:49,239 --> 00:36:50,840
or something in some other argument you can give me.

747
00:36:51,199 --> 00:36:52,920
I don't like it. This is zeno more. If these

748
00:36:52,960 --> 00:36:55,159
things should be able to just like shred through the

749
00:36:55,239 --> 00:36:56,960
human and like just an instant.

750
00:36:57,559 --> 00:36:57,760
Speaker 1: Ah.

751
00:36:58,000 --> 00:37:01,199
Speaker 2: So that's that bothered me for sure, but at the

752
00:37:01,239 --> 00:37:03,440
same time I was laughing and having a good time

753
00:37:03,519 --> 00:37:05,400
and it was just so ridiculous, So I did enjoy

754
00:37:05,480 --> 00:37:09,119
it on its own. But like, thinking about this again,

755
00:37:09,199 --> 00:37:12,599
two years before Ripley does her heroics and takes on

756
00:37:12,679 --> 00:37:15,840
the Zeno with her giant mech machine that she's actually

757
00:37:15,920 --> 00:37:20,159
able to take on. Yeah, that's that's where I'm at.

758
00:37:20,679 --> 00:37:24,440
Speaker 1: So, yeah, the whole duel of the Duel of the

759
00:37:24,519 --> 00:37:27,760
Gods was just absolute faith starts playing fades. Oh yeah,

760
00:37:31,119 --> 00:37:33,360
that was just it made me laugh and I was

761
00:37:33,480 --> 00:37:35,679
enjoying and eating it up because especially when he bites

762
00:37:35,719 --> 00:37:38,519
into his neck, it's going crazy. And then like that's

763
00:37:38,639 --> 00:37:41,800
just phase one because when he throws Zo throws old

764
00:37:41,880 --> 00:37:45,159
Man down and eats into his neck, the Zino thinks

765
00:37:45,199 --> 00:37:47,920
he's one, but then the eye jumps onto its head

766
00:37:47,960 --> 00:37:50,559
and the Zeno just freaks the fuck out again. And

767
00:37:50,840 --> 00:37:52,119
you know, it doesn't have an eye, so I can't

768
00:37:52,159 --> 00:37:53,800
get in there, and even if it did, it would

769
00:37:53,840 --> 00:37:57,000
melt in the acid. But this just there's something about

770
00:37:57,119 --> 00:38:00,320
just when aliens freak out, it's just I don't know,

771
00:38:00,360 --> 00:38:02,360
you're dealing with something that always tries to be in

772
00:38:02,400 --> 00:38:04,719
control of the situation is always a step ahead of

773
00:38:04,760 --> 00:38:09,280
its target because it's a master hunter predator kind of creature,

774
00:38:09,719 --> 00:38:11,840
and so when they're caught in these situations, they're screaming

775
00:38:11,880 --> 00:38:13,599
and freaking out. I don't know, I just I enjoy it.

776
00:38:13,719 --> 00:38:15,400
And just the context of this, yeah, with the old

777
00:38:15,480 --> 00:38:18,880
man biting it and throwing fists like it was really

778
00:38:18,960 --> 00:38:21,480
really good. And so I'm happy we got to see that,

779
00:38:21,519 --> 00:38:23,440
because you don't get to see a enomorph's face off

780
00:38:23,480 --> 00:38:26,239
against other aliens really that much. I mean, Prometheus is

781
00:38:26,280 --> 00:38:27,760
a whole kind of worms, but I'm gonna ignore that.

782
00:38:28,320 --> 00:38:32,320
But when you see predators yaucha faced off against them,

783
00:38:32,400 --> 00:38:34,480
that's super cool. And then yeah, humans doing their own

784
00:38:34,519 --> 00:38:37,239
thing the next suits the colonial Marines, YadA, YadA, YadA,

785
00:38:37,280 --> 00:38:39,719
but just to get another species of parasite like this

786
00:38:40,280 --> 00:38:43,280
invade into a human being and then go toe to toe.

787
00:38:43,360 --> 00:38:45,280
I thought they were teaming up for a second there

788
00:38:45,280 --> 00:38:48,119
after the previous scene with the little insects, but this

789
00:38:48,280 --> 00:38:51,119
thing clearly like why it was roaring, I don't know,

790
00:38:51,400 --> 00:38:54,480
but I liked Moro in that scene where he's just

791
00:38:55,519 --> 00:38:58,280
the creature walks towards him and he raises his gun

792
00:38:58,360 --> 00:39:01,199
and the eyeball thing backs up. Then morel was like no,

793
00:39:01,760 --> 00:39:05,039
fuck fuck, no, fuck you back up? Like yeah, then,

794
00:39:05,360 --> 00:39:06,880
I mean, what choice did he have? He had this

795
00:39:06,960 --> 00:39:09,000
happen because he had the xenomorph comes up behind him

796
00:39:09,000 --> 00:39:11,079
and he's like fuck, like what what do you do

797
00:39:11,239 --> 00:39:14,119
in this situation? But that that was that was pretty good.

798
00:39:14,159 --> 00:39:17,000
And then just the girl just I thought the girl

799
00:39:17,199 --> 00:39:19,960
was dead there and that scene because I mean it's

800
00:39:20,000 --> 00:39:22,760
like eyeball man just choked, just choked her and threw

801
00:39:22,800 --> 00:39:24,679
her down and then stood off in the distance and

802
00:39:24,840 --> 00:39:25,400
stared at her.

803
00:39:25,559 --> 00:39:27,400
Speaker 2: Like when Moreau gets in the door and he's just

804
00:39:27,440 --> 00:39:30,800
like just awkwardly like forty five degrees you know, like

805
00:39:30,920 --> 00:39:35,639
ten meters back and he's just creepy eye and I'm like, oh, man,

806
00:39:35,800 --> 00:39:37,639
like you must have ripped her throat out. But she's

807
00:39:37,679 --> 00:39:40,679
like moving around and like doesn't look too damaged. So

808
00:39:42,079 --> 00:39:45,239
very very bizarre. I don't know. I'm I'm interested in

809
00:39:45,280 --> 00:39:50,400
the eyeball thing for sure. Yeah, I don't know. I

810
00:39:50,760 --> 00:39:52,960
think I'm just interested in like kind of what's going

811
00:39:53,039 --> 00:39:55,880
to happen with it so on if it's gonna because

812
00:39:55,880 --> 00:39:59,559
I assumed it did, because it's it's very obviously a

813
00:39:59,639 --> 00:40:02,880
paaris right like, it replaces things eyes, Yes, things that

814
00:40:03,039 --> 00:40:06,400
have eyes. As you mentioned, the xeno doesn't have eyes, right, Like,

815
00:40:06,519 --> 00:40:09,280
they just use their senses to kind of get around

816
00:40:09,320 --> 00:40:10,000
their sniffers.

817
00:40:10,119 --> 00:40:14,119
Speaker 1: And yeah, yeah, that's something I'm actually gonna highlight after

818
00:40:14,159 --> 00:40:19,480
this quick eyebreak. The concept of this this creature having

819
00:40:19,599 --> 00:40:24,760
eyes is it's to me for a loop because when

820
00:40:24,800 --> 00:40:28,400
we're looking at all these different invasive parasitic species, the

821
00:40:28,480 --> 00:40:30,360
fact that we're dealing with one that has this eyeball

822
00:40:30,400 --> 00:40:32,480
implies like, okay, like what kind of aliens out there

823
00:40:32,480 --> 00:40:35,079
are we dealing with that have eyeballs? Because I feel

824
00:40:35,119 --> 00:40:38,280
like eyeballs are very much an earthly thing. But if

825
00:40:38,280 --> 00:40:40,000
we're going around the galaxy, I guess we got the

826
00:40:40,079 --> 00:40:44,280
yaucha that have eyeballs too. There are the space shockeys

827
00:40:44,320 --> 00:40:45,760
that do have their eyeballs as well.

828
00:40:45,800 --> 00:40:48,880
Speaker 2: But this eyeball in particular, modeled after the space jockeys,

829
00:40:49,000 --> 00:40:51,960
is not that the whole we were I guess it's

830
00:40:52,440 --> 00:40:53,559
not clearly answered.

831
00:40:54,440 --> 00:40:59,760
Speaker 1: Well, we were technically in the history goes, but like

832
00:40:59,880 --> 00:41:02,960
I don't know, like, let's, for example, let's look at

833
00:41:03,079 --> 00:41:07,840
a youcha eyeball here, because the on the one that

834
00:41:07,920 --> 00:41:10,239
we're looking at in the creature like this.

835
00:41:11,840 --> 00:41:12,039
Speaker 2: Guy.

836
00:41:13,199 --> 00:41:21,800
Speaker 1: Uh, he looks very familiar Predators ABP Central. Where is he?

837
00:41:21,960 --> 00:41:24,719
Here is he in this ad?

838
00:41:24,840 --> 00:41:25,320
Speaker 2: Oh yeah?

839
00:41:26,199 --> 00:41:28,360
Speaker 1: Oh behind the scenes, the creation of the big screen

840
00:41:28,400 --> 00:41:30,239
of balls, a combination of practical effects, visual facts, the

841
00:41:30,280 --> 00:41:31,519
use of intricate contact lenses.

842
00:41:32,159 --> 00:41:32,280
Speaker 2: Uh.

843
00:41:32,559 --> 00:41:35,599
Speaker 1: Famously, Kevin Peter Hall portrayed both that's right, that's where

844
00:41:35,599 --> 00:41:38,119
I recognized him. He played both Predators and Predator one

845
00:41:38,159 --> 00:41:43,599
and Predator two wearing yellow contact lenses. Uh.

846
00:41:45,159 --> 00:41:46,719
Speaker 2: Yeah, there we go, look like Anakin.

847
00:41:47,760 --> 00:41:51,480
Speaker 1: But yeah, so the like the eyeballs on this predator,

848
00:41:51,559 --> 00:41:55,280
they're they're different from what human eyes are like. And

849
00:41:55,360 --> 00:41:58,440
this creature its eyes are very human like. But the

850
00:41:58,519 --> 00:42:00,920
way they look it's like how a fly looks.

851
00:42:01,480 --> 00:42:05,000
Speaker 2: I never realized. Go back to that photo. Look at

852
00:42:05,079 --> 00:42:08,679
the look at the pretor's mouth. I never noticed that.

853
00:42:10,320 --> 00:42:12,280
It looks very similar to something You've.

854
00:42:12,199 --> 00:42:16,840
Speaker 1: Never noticed that watched pred Or two. That looks like, oh,

855
00:42:16,960 --> 00:42:18,199
it's like spitting image.

856
00:42:18,480 --> 00:42:22,639
Speaker 2: Okay, I don't know this is established thing. I don't

857
00:42:22,639 --> 00:42:24,320
think we talked about that on the retro.

858
00:42:24,280 --> 00:42:26,400
Speaker 1: Never talked maybe on the Red Show, but I know

859
00:42:26,480 --> 00:42:29,000
Travis is mentioned these things are faces.

860
00:42:29,079 --> 00:42:32,960
Speaker 2: For sure, it's got all the things dangerous, but don't

861
00:42:33,000 --> 00:42:33,719
tempt me proto.

862
00:42:38,599 --> 00:42:42,760
Speaker 1: Okay, so here we go. Flyes eyes, we got flyes eyes. Yeah,

863
00:42:42,880 --> 00:42:45,360
so I'll try and yeah, I see here you go

864
00:42:45,480 --> 00:42:46,760
how fly fly season?

865
00:42:46,760 --> 00:42:49,440
Speaker 2: Actually, I think next week's episode is titled the Fly,

866
00:42:50,320 --> 00:42:53,840
so I don't know if that's really but oh, let's

867
00:42:53,880 --> 00:42:56,159
see episode six.

868
00:42:58,639 --> 00:42:59,239
Speaker 1: Sixty five.

869
00:42:59,320 --> 00:43:02,280
Speaker 2: There's no the fly.

870
00:43:02,760 --> 00:43:05,679
Speaker 1: The fly there you go, Okay, well you know what

871
00:43:06,920 --> 00:43:09,159
it ties to the This the fly's vision.

872
00:43:09,199 --> 00:43:10,159
Speaker 2: It's the eye. Look at that.

873
00:43:10,320 --> 00:43:11,679
Speaker 1: We're just we're paving the way here.

874
00:43:11,840 --> 00:43:12,760
Speaker 2: This is this vision.

875
00:43:12,800 --> 00:43:13,559
Speaker 1: It's the same way.

876
00:43:13,920 --> 00:43:15,079
Speaker 2: This is what the I sees.

877
00:43:15,159 --> 00:43:20,400
Speaker 1: It's the fly vision. Yeah, I don't know, it's not

878
00:43:20,440 --> 00:43:21,599
really leading anywhere. It's just.

879
00:43:23,840 --> 00:43:28,519
Speaker 2: The eyes. Yeah, really cool design on the creature. But yeah,

880
00:43:28,519 --> 00:43:29,920
I guess, like what what what do you think is

881
00:43:29,960 --> 00:43:31,599
gonna happen with the creature? Do you think it's gonna

882
00:43:31,599 --> 00:43:33,440
be one of those things where like it wants the

883
00:43:33,599 --> 00:43:36,480
Zeno because it seemed to call the xeno right like

884
00:43:36,599 --> 00:43:40,360
I want you meet me at the highest highest point,

885
00:43:40,440 --> 00:43:41,039
will clash.

886
00:43:42,639 --> 00:43:46,519
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's I feel like, yeah, because the Zino was

887
00:43:46,519 --> 00:43:48,079
gone then it called it back and I feel like

888
00:43:48,119 --> 00:43:50,760
it called it back specifically to try, I guess, to

889
00:43:51,079 --> 00:43:53,880
try a team up, but it didn't. I don't know.

890
00:43:54,039 --> 00:43:57,800
Maybe it got pissed off because while I'm talking to you,

891
00:43:59,400 --> 00:44:01,119
I'm just I'm just so smooth.

892
00:44:03,920 --> 00:44:07,800
Speaker 2: You didn't even slow down. Okay, car I gotta.

893
00:44:07,599 --> 00:44:09,079
Speaker 1: Keep my meme game up.

894
00:44:10,039 --> 00:44:10,159
Speaker 3: Uh.

895
00:44:15,519 --> 00:44:16,239
Speaker 2: I don't know why.

896
00:44:16,800 --> 00:44:18,960
Speaker 1: I just feel like it was provoked when it was

897
00:44:19,039 --> 00:44:21,880
being attacked by Moro from the Electricity and thought maybe

898
00:44:21,920 --> 00:44:23,360
we could have teamed up, but then it just got

899
00:44:23,519 --> 00:44:25,400
super pissed off of this, you know. I'm not sure.

900
00:44:25,960 --> 00:44:30,119
It's just the context of things got escalating really really fast.

901
00:44:30,280 --> 00:44:32,679
So I don't I don't know, but it'll just be

902
00:44:32,760 --> 00:44:34,679
interesting to see how it's going to pan out with

903
00:44:34,760 --> 00:44:36,880
this creature, because I like, I like how smart it is,

904
00:44:36,920 --> 00:44:38,519
and I wasn't sure at the beginning, but it was

905
00:44:38,559 --> 00:44:41,599
just a parasite. But seeing the different level of intelligence

906
00:44:41,639 --> 00:44:45,360
that it's exhibiting is really interesting and engaging. I like

907
00:44:45,480 --> 00:44:48,559
how it kind of knows not like communicate with people,

908
00:44:48,639 --> 00:44:51,280
but it's just doing it's it's just got this this

909
00:44:51,440 --> 00:44:54,639
smart thing behind it. And on top of that, I

910
00:44:54,840 --> 00:44:56,760
like too that when it took over the goat. I

911
00:44:56,840 --> 00:44:59,639
guess the sheep when it stood on its hind legs

912
00:45:00,119 --> 00:45:02,400
was doing that, and I feel like, because that's human

913
00:45:02,519 --> 00:45:04,440
thing to do, we walk on our hind legs. And

914
00:45:04,519 --> 00:45:06,280
then I think it took it a second and realize

915
00:45:06,440 --> 00:45:08,159
this thing walks on all four legs, and so it

916
00:45:08,199 --> 00:45:11,280
went back down onto its four legs and just you know,

917
00:45:11,360 --> 00:45:14,199
it just it's like it just blends in. And I

918
00:45:14,400 --> 00:45:18,880
wonder if how much it absorbs. Does it absorb thoughts

919
00:45:19,079 --> 00:45:23,639
or intelligence from the brain like a like the main.

920
00:45:25,719 --> 00:45:29,639
Speaker 2: Like I mentioned, it has to to like a certain

921
00:45:29,719 --> 00:45:33,679
level like probably the non uh what's the word use? Uh,

922
00:45:34,320 --> 00:45:37,320
like your subconscious feelings, like you know, right now I'm

923
00:45:37,400 --> 00:45:39,880
sitting here, but like without thinking about it, like I

924
00:45:39,880 --> 00:45:41,920
actually have a lot of muscles activated to like keep

925
00:45:41,960 --> 00:45:44,199
me upright right, where if I just like passed out,

926
00:45:44,199 --> 00:45:46,159
I wouldn't just be sitting right like this, I'd be

927
00:45:46,239 --> 00:45:48,719
limp on the ground. And like when it takes control

928
00:45:48,920 --> 00:45:51,920
of buddy mechanic, like it's standing there and like using

929
00:45:52,000 --> 00:45:55,880
its limbs. So I think very clearly it just like

930
00:45:55,960 --> 00:45:59,920
it can pilot the body to that level. Doesn't speak English,

931
00:46:00,119 --> 00:46:02,480
so it's not like it just absorbs that area of

932
00:46:02,599 --> 00:46:08,360
the of the brain. I'm hoping maybe are They're not

933
00:46:08,480 --> 00:46:10,639
heroes to me, but I'll call them heroes. Are humans

934
00:46:10,719 --> 00:46:14,719
in this world or sense or whoever is interacting. I

935
00:46:14,760 --> 00:46:19,559
guess it's the Prodigy people right that have the rights

936
00:46:19,599 --> 00:46:22,079
to these sciences. I don't know the lawyers are getting

937
00:46:22,079 --> 00:46:24,199
involved next week. It sounds like you Tani told us

938
00:46:24,719 --> 00:46:29,440
to figure out what's going on here. But yeah, I'm

939
00:46:29,519 --> 00:46:31,880
hoping that our humans or whoever studies these things and

940
00:46:31,920 --> 00:46:33,639
gives us some answers on kind of what's going on

941
00:46:33,800 --> 00:46:36,119
with the thought process there. And I mean now they're

942
00:46:36,159 --> 00:46:40,679
studying it in cheap form, which is interesting. I can't

943
00:46:40,679 --> 00:46:43,039
remember it didn't get out right in last weeks. Like

944
00:46:43,079 --> 00:46:44,360
it's just in the cage right now.

945
00:46:44,519 --> 00:46:48,000
Speaker 1: Just wait, everything, everything is contained right now, accept these

946
00:46:48,039 --> 00:46:51,320
you know more. If that's like a little little puppy

947
00:46:51,360 --> 00:46:53,400
dog to Wendy.

948
00:46:53,239 --> 00:46:57,039
Speaker 2: Oh right, yeah, she canna be riding that thing like

949
00:46:57,119 --> 00:47:01,079
a warg in a battle. Just if that happens. This

950
00:47:01,199 --> 00:47:04,719
is this is dead to me. There's no way Ripley

951
00:47:04,960 --> 00:47:06,000
is en root right now?

952
00:47:06,159 --> 00:47:08,119
Speaker 1: Come on, brother, a brother on behind.

953
00:47:08,280 --> 00:47:13,119
Speaker 2: We're leaving this place. The young forever.

954
00:47:16,400 --> 00:47:20,280
Speaker 1: Being of bodies though the saboteur, we learned that he

955
00:47:20,400 --> 00:47:23,000
was promised his own body if he could survive.

956
00:47:24,079 --> 00:47:26,480
Speaker 2: Think he's choosing. Do you think he's choosing like some

957
00:47:26,639 --> 00:47:31,280
athletic god. Is he choosing female body, big boobs? What's

958
00:47:31,320 --> 00:47:31,599
he doing?

959
00:47:32,039 --> 00:47:36,239
Speaker 1: Absolutely? Oh yeah, the trible boob, trible bomber, one boob.

960
00:47:36,320 --> 00:47:37,079
That's the kind of guy.

961
00:47:37,039 --> 00:47:39,920
Speaker 2: Here, or just a big blue lady. He's going full nov.

962
00:47:43,119 --> 00:47:46,599
Speaker 1: He's a Pandora and he saw those movies Like yeah,

963
00:47:47,239 --> 00:47:49,119
I mean, technically they could make him whatever body he

964
00:47:49,199 --> 00:47:53,480
wanted in that context, they could make him some they there's.

965
00:47:53,360 --> 00:47:55,119
Speaker 2: No way they actually would have gave him that body.

966
00:47:55,239 --> 00:47:58,880
I think I think they would old Yeah, exactly trillion

967
00:47:59,000 --> 00:48:04,599
zillions probably. It's like, uh, it's like the secrecy that's

968
00:48:04,639 --> 00:48:06,880
involved in this this project they have, like they're all

969
00:48:06,920 --> 00:48:09,480
on this island right like, uh, they're not allowed to

970
00:48:09,559 --> 00:48:12,119
talk about who they were before. They're not fucking letting

971
00:48:12,159 --> 00:48:14,760
this guy get his own body and just go out because.

972
00:48:14,559 --> 00:48:17,280
Speaker 1: If he for him to pull off something like this

973
00:48:19,079 --> 00:48:21,320
is the Prodigy shady company. Yes, but look what they

974
00:48:21,400 --> 00:48:23,199
did with the brother. They were definitely gonna, you know,

975
00:48:24,079 --> 00:48:27,000
screw him over financially for now, but they're gonna screw

976
00:48:27,039 --> 00:48:29,679
them over financially. But they did give him a replacement lung,

977
00:48:29,920 --> 00:48:33,119
and they've been pretty open with him, Okay, we have

978
00:48:33,320 --> 00:48:36,880
these alien entities, we're doing experiments, YadA. So I think

979
00:48:36,960 --> 00:48:43,639
that there is a varying degree of uh, you know, inclusion,

980
00:48:43,800 --> 00:48:45,920
and so I think that they probably would give him

981
00:48:45,960 --> 00:48:49,599
one because that's what they wanted to do, each one

982
00:48:49,639 --> 00:48:52,559
bigger than the last. On his hands, on his feet,

983
00:48:52,880 --> 00:48:57,960
you know, everywhere, everything, everywhere, all exactly. But I think

984
00:48:58,039 --> 00:49:00,320
like even Prodigy made a point of saying, like, you're

985
00:49:00,320 --> 00:49:02,079
gonna be on the top of the list when we

986
00:49:02,239 --> 00:49:04,800
get to doing it, because we are not at that

987
00:49:04,880 --> 00:49:08,119
point technologically for adults to make that transfer. So I

988
00:49:08,239 --> 00:49:10,840
think like that's their goal. They want to create this,

989
00:49:11,559 --> 00:49:13,880
these bodies for adults to transfer into. So I mean,

990
00:49:14,039 --> 00:49:15,480
this guy wants to do it, then we'll do it,

991
00:49:15,559 --> 00:49:19,039
especially because he's giving us all these alien entities and whatnot,

992
00:49:19,159 --> 00:49:23,800
so that proves to be i'd say, him being a

993
00:49:23,920 --> 00:49:26,440
valuable asset in the future if they needed him for

994
00:49:26,519 --> 00:49:28,159
something too. So I think that there is a high

995
00:49:28,280 --> 00:49:30,000
chance that they were going to give him what he

996
00:49:30,119 --> 00:49:32,079
wanted but there's no chance he was going to survive

997
00:49:32,199 --> 00:49:34,639
letting these fucking aliens out. He chose to let out

998
00:49:34,639 --> 00:49:36,679
two fucking face huggers, Like, are you kidding me?

999
00:49:37,000 --> 00:49:37,559
Speaker 2: Two of them?

1000
00:49:37,880 --> 00:49:39,840
Speaker 1: You have two Xeno wars running around? And what was

1001
00:49:39,880 --> 00:49:41,440
this plan? They were gonna run around and then the

1002
00:49:41,559 --> 00:49:44,280
ship like seventeen days two weeks out? He's gonna survive

1003
00:49:44,320 --> 00:49:47,480
two weeks with these fucking aliens running around? Yeah, and

1004
00:49:47,599 --> 00:49:49,440
I guess he thought that, Okay, they would have put

1005
00:49:49,480 --> 00:49:51,519
them in the cryal and it would have been fine

1006
00:49:51,800 --> 00:49:54,760
as he sabotages the ship, but like, he didn't have

1007
00:49:54,880 --> 00:49:56,559
to let them out. All you have to do is

1008
00:49:56,599 --> 00:49:59,039
sabotage the ship and then just go back into cryal

1009
00:49:59,159 --> 00:50:01,719
and go to slip. Well, no, because then he would

1010
00:50:01,719 --> 00:50:02,360
have what happened?

1011
00:50:02,400 --> 00:50:04,800
Speaker 2: Did he let them out? Or was there just eggs

1012
00:50:04,880 --> 00:50:07,320
in the cargo that they worked out? Because somebody was in.

1013
00:50:07,360 --> 00:50:13,800
Speaker 1: That room he opened the containment uh casings because they

1014
00:50:13,800 --> 00:50:15,480
were in like two boxes and you can see in

1015
00:50:15,559 --> 00:50:18,159
the camera the door opening slowly, So.

1016
00:50:18,800 --> 00:50:23,000
Speaker 2: You okay, forgot about that detail? Yeah that's right? Yeah, Yeah,

1017
00:50:25,800 --> 00:50:28,679
what was I gonna say? I'm like, uh, I can't

1018
00:50:28,719 --> 00:50:31,800
remember some weird time. I don't remember. I did like

1019
00:50:31,920 --> 00:50:33,760
just the chaos of everything that was going on I

1020
00:50:33,880 --> 00:50:36,320
already mentioned, but I like just the added factor of

1021
00:50:36,480 --> 00:50:41,119
like we have fire, we have Zeno's, we have polluted water,

1022
00:50:41,320 --> 00:50:45,360
we have people doing science with open water container. You know,

1023
00:50:45,440 --> 00:50:49,840
we got def Con five situation here, and uh and

1024
00:50:50,000 --> 00:50:52,960
like half the crew and this is a goofy thing

1025
00:50:53,000 --> 00:50:55,079
where I feel like it's stupid, but I still enjoyed it.

1026
00:50:55,159 --> 00:50:56,920
Like most of the crew, they just don't really care,

1027
00:50:57,480 --> 00:51:01,000
you know, like we're getting home soon a tunnel. At

1028
00:51:01,039 --> 00:51:04,119
this point in time, there is what's been known to

1029
00:51:04,360 --> 00:51:09,679
us the most apex apex apex species in the entire universe,

1030
00:51:09,880 --> 00:51:15,800
just hunting humans in the fucking ceiling. Uh you got

1031
00:51:15,920 --> 00:51:18,599
you got face huggers, face hugging people who could yeah

1032
00:51:18,880 --> 00:51:22,360
sprout some uh some some some bad things. And then

1033
00:51:22,440 --> 00:51:26,559
just Moreau is just in his he's in his security lab,

1034
00:51:26,800 --> 00:51:31,079
just on the monitors, which aesthetically looks so sweet. Does

1035
00:51:31,159 --> 00:51:34,159
not bug me seeing these weird like eighties era TVs,

1036
00:51:34,440 --> 00:51:36,800
you know, with future technology, this is like my favorite

1037
00:51:38,039 --> 00:51:41,480
type of just what's the word, I'm looking like like

1038
00:51:41,639 --> 00:51:44,519
future tech where it's like old, dirty grimy, Like I

1039
00:51:44,719 --> 00:51:48,880
I just love these aesthetic there's always just like vents

1040
00:51:49,280 --> 00:51:53,239
like gassing all time. For whatever reason. Moreau is like

1041
00:51:53,480 --> 00:51:57,400
huffing these big Cuban cigars throughout this episode. Uh, and

1042
00:51:57,559 --> 00:51:59,119
I thought he had one when he was on the

1043
00:51:59,199 --> 00:52:01,519
monitor because he like he's just he's got like ten

1044
00:52:01,639 --> 00:52:03,840
monitors in front of him, and I'm saying monitors, but

1045
00:52:03,840 --> 00:52:08,079
they're basically just these eighties CRT TV's big glass bulbous

1046
00:52:08,559 --> 00:52:10,440
on the front and he's just like on his chair

1047
00:52:10,519 --> 00:52:13,280
like going down the line and just just looking at

1048
00:52:13,440 --> 00:52:17,920
them all and there's just this like vent just gassing steam.

1049
00:52:18,079 --> 00:52:19,880
I imagine that like the ship has to be so

1050
00:52:20,039 --> 00:52:22,800
hot into this room, but man, aesthetically it looks so

1051
00:52:23,039 --> 00:52:25,079
fucking cool. I love it so much. I love the

1052
00:52:25,159 --> 00:52:27,880
buttons that he has where they don't have anything on them,

1053
00:52:27,880 --> 00:52:30,719
they're just lights and he's just clicking them away. Yeah.

1054
00:52:30,880 --> 00:52:34,639
Esthetically that this was just such an awesome adventure back

1055
00:52:34,679 --> 00:52:37,159
into like these types of whaling Utahani ships, which I

1056
00:52:37,280 --> 00:52:39,760
just love. And I think that's why this stood out

1057
00:52:39,840 --> 00:52:41,920
so much to me as being like my favorite episodes

1058
00:52:41,960 --> 00:52:44,079
so far, because it's like, oh, yeah, this is the

1059
00:52:44,079 --> 00:52:46,519
alien that I know in love, whereas when we're on Earth,

1060
00:52:48,440 --> 00:52:51,960
like the attempt to try and tell new stories like that,

1061
00:52:52,039 --> 00:52:54,440
that's not the stuff that I'm disinterested in. It's just

1062
00:52:54,800 --> 00:52:58,159
what I'm seeing here of like calling back to my nostalgia.

1063
00:52:58,239 --> 00:53:00,480
I think that's why I lift it up so much

1064
00:53:00,519 --> 00:53:03,920
higher in comparison to just some of the areas that

1065
00:53:03,960 --> 00:53:11,000
we've gone in in the show so far. Yeah, there

1066
00:53:11,079 --> 00:53:13,639
was something else I was gonna throw, but I can't

1067
00:53:13,719 --> 00:53:14,440
quite remember.

1068
00:53:15,159 --> 00:53:17,679
Speaker 1: There was a scene where he's doing his interviews Morrow

1069
00:53:17,760 --> 00:53:22,199
and he's interviewing the science officer and she's ripen well

1070
00:53:22,239 --> 00:53:24,719
that's right. He's like, you're sweating, and he's like, yeah,

1071
00:53:24,840 --> 00:53:27,320
you know, it's just it's it's you know, she recycled

1072
00:53:27,360 --> 00:53:29,639
farts and whatnot. But like he's he is sweating, but

1073
00:53:29,679 --> 00:53:31,960
literally there's he's like what the fuck because there's like

1074
00:53:32,079 --> 00:53:34,719
water dripping off the ceiling and just spouting all over

1075
00:53:34,800 --> 00:53:38,159
his face, so it looks like he's fucking sweating. Uh yeah,

1076
00:53:38,280 --> 00:53:40,679
just to add to the scenery of that room, really

1077
00:53:40,760 --> 00:53:43,199
really cool aesthetic and whatnot.

1078
00:53:43,400 --> 00:53:47,400
Speaker 2: So yeah, and then you've got think, there's only two

1079
00:53:47,440 --> 00:53:49,800
interviews you did, one with that guy and then the

1080
00:53:49,880 --> 00:53:52,199
other one with Tang, who.

1081
00:53:53,800 --> 00:53:54,039
Speaker 1: Is he.

1082
00:53:56,199 --> 00:53:57,159
Speaker 2: He's not human? Is he?

1083
00:53:57,480 --> 00:53:59,800
Speaker 1: No? He was, he was a synthetic and he just

1084
00:54:00,159 --> 00:54:02,000
there's something off with him as a synthetic.

1085
00:54:02,119 --> 00:54:05,000
Speaker 2: He was very odd, very like keep an eye on

1086
00:54:05,079 --> 00:54:08,239
that guy type of mood I'm getting with this one.

1087
00:54:08,880 --> 00:54:11,039
I loved it though, because he's like speaking to riddles,

1088
00:54:11,559 --> 00:54:16,559
like every time that we see him Moreau, he's like

1089
00:54:16,639 --> 00:54:19,760
your coarser again, it's fucked up, Matt. It's just like

1090
00:54:19,880 --> 00:54:22,400
the whole situation that Tang's doing with that with that

1091
00:54:22,559 --> 00:54:27,159
chick is just so odd, very just yeah odd duck.

1092
00:54:27,360 --> 00:54:31,440
He's chained smoking these cigarettes. He's just he just seems

1093
00:54:31,519 --> 00:54:34,440
so yeah, I don't know, odd throughout the whole thing.

1094
00:54:35,400 --> 00:54:38,519
The most human reaction I've ever seen is when he's

1095
00:54:38,559 --> 00:54:41,320
in the interrogation chamber and he looks up and he

1096
00:54:41,400 --> 00:54:44,119
just sees the fucking xenomorph above him and he's doing

1097
00:54:44,199 --> 00:54:47,360
like the will of Defoe, like oh no, and he

1098
00:54:47,559 --> 00:54:51,559
just screams. He like yells, which was so like uncharacteristic

1099
00:54:51,639 --> 00:54:56,599
to this, like super just trippy calm. I'll say stoic

1100
00:54:56,679 --> 00:54:58,960
because I can't really think of a better word to use.

1101
00:54:59,000 --> 00:55:02,119
But he's just like so like reserved in his emotions,

1102
00:55:02,159 --> 00:55:04,239
like he doesn't like freak out when people get face

1103
00:55:04,280 --> 00:55:06,800
hugg or anything. Then he looks up and you know

1104
00:55:06,880 --> 00:55:09,159
it's gonna be scary when this motherfucker is like shit

1105
00:55:09,199 --> 00:55:11,159
in his pants. I I just I couldn't believe his

1106
00:55:11,280 --> 00:55:13,119
reaction because it was so different than what I would

1107
00:55:13,119 --> 00:55:16,400
have expected. And yeah, he got fucked up. I'm assuming

1108
00:55:16,480 --> 00:55:19,480
we didn't see it. It fully happened, but he got like,

1109
00:55:19,519 --> 00:55:21,239
do Zinos have a use for this guy, right if

1110
00:55:21,239 --> 00:55:21,960
he's a synthetic.

1111
00:55:22,239 --> 00:55:24,079
Speaker 1: No, no, they're they're killing for sure. That's what the

1112
00:55:24,119 --> 00:55:28,199
other guy, the other fighter guy uh reported too that

1113
00:55:28,280 --> 00:55:32,320
he got he got sucked up. Yeah, very peculiar. And

1114
00:55:32,400 --> 00:55:36,039
they just had him there for just yeah, creating weird drama,

1115
00:55:36,159 --> 00:55:38,280
I guess. But yeah, just the scene where you see

1116
00:55:38,360 --> 00:55:40,400
him in this episode standing over the girl that he

1117
00:55:40,639 --> 00:55:43,239
likes and he like places his hand. There was so

1118
00:55:43,400 --> 00:55:47,559
much just different, like interesting shots because when the new

1119
00:55:47,679 --> 00:55:51,039
captain pours the dirt from Utah on the the cryo

1120
00:55:51,199 --> 00:55:52,320
tube of her lover.

1121
00:55:52,360 --> 00:55:59,400
Speaker 2: You can see what's the state Utah. Okay, it sounded weird. Uda, Uda,

1122
00:55:59,440 --> 00:56:04,719
I don't know, are starting to go Okay, So she pours.

1123
00:56:04,480 --> 00:56:05,960
Speaker 1: The dirt and it lands on the spot in the

1124
00:56:05,960 --> 00:56:08,679
crowd too. But the way the cameras showcasing it, it

1125
00:56:08,800 --> 00:56:10,840
shows like the dirt looks red and it's right on

1126
00:56:10,920 --> 00:56:12,800
his chest with these you know it's gonna burst out.

1127
00:56:12,840 --> 00:56:14,679
And then later on it shows where.

1128
00:56:14,519 --> 00:56:17,760
Speaker 2: This this quick cut to them fucking too.

1129
00:56:18,440 --> 00:56:23,039
Speaker 1: Yeah me off guard? Crap, Yeah, I caught me off

1130
00:56:23,079 --> 00:56:25,679
guard completely. It looked like it was in the cryal world,

1131
00:56:25,760 --> 00:56:27,800
like the Aliens are on the eggs and ships. They're

1132
00:56:27,880 --> 00:56:32,679
just you know, people got their kinks. But the scene

1133
00:56:32,840 --> 00:56:35,519
though after that, where Tang was just watching the girl.

1134
00:56:35,840 --> 00:56:37,880
He puts his hand down on the cryal too, but

1135
00:56:38,000 --> 00:56:41,000
his hand is placed right over like her location of

1136
00:56:41,079 --> 00:56:43,440
the Nether regions. I thought, I feel like there's just

1137
00:56:43,519 --> 00:56:46,719
a lot of shots in here that are intentional. I know,

1138
00:56:46,800 --> 00:56:49,800
Alien has always had that kind of supposed to have

1139
00:56:49,920 --> 00:56:55,639
that focal point on just you know, just.

1140
00:56:57,159 --> 00:56:57,480
Speaker 2: Say it.

1141
00:57:00,239 --> 00:57:05,000
Speaker 1: Just rape and just that that just like insecure, just

1142
00:57:05,239 --> 00:57:08,239
like I just just it's it's not good, but it's

1143
00:57:08,280 --> 00:57:10,280
it's focusing on that, and I feel like, Okay, there's

1144
00:57:10,320 --> 00:57:12,280
something going on with Tang and the way all the

1145
00:57:12,360 --> 00:57:15,840
crew kind of knows it and is just addressing it loosely,

1146
00:57:16,039 --> 00:57:17,480
and like even the one guy's like, oh, you know,

1147
00:57:17,480 --> 00:57:20,599
I'm to go tell the captain about you. The captain's dead.

1148
00:57:20,840 --> 00:57:23,679
It's like, oh god, yeah, fucked this is so fucked

1149
00:57:24,239 --> 00:57:26,320
so and the girl. I feel bad for the girl

1150
00:57:26,360 --> 00:57:28,400
because you know, obviously she dies in her cry oud tube.

1151
00:57:28,480 --> 00:57:32,400
Son't doesn't get to Yeah, I know the extent of

1152
00:57:32,480 --> 00:57:34,480
how fucked up this guy is, but it seems like

1153
00:57:34,519 --> 00:57:36,559
there was some kind of pre existing notion, like she

1154
00:57:36,679 --> 00:57:38,800
was uncomfortable with him or whatever. But we'll never know now.

1155
00:57:40,000 --> 00:57:44,039
Speaker 2: I like, hope there's more. I don't. No, I don't

1156
00:57:44,079 --> 00:57:45,599
know why I'm saying that. I don't think there will be,

1157
00:57:45,840 --> 00:57:47,880
and I I don't really understand the decision to like

1158
00:57:48,000 --> 00:57:51,760
make that and yeah, because that's because it's not like

1159
00:57:51,840 --> 00:57:53,239
it's gonna be picked up, Like that's what I was

1160
00:57:53,239 --> 00:57:56,639
gonna say. I was gonna say. I hope, uh, you know,

1161
00:57:56,679 --> 00:57:58,440
we get a little more backstory on what the fuck

1162
00:57:58,559 --> 00:58:02,519
actually was going on of just who this other individual is,

1163
00:58:02,719 --> 00:58:06,079
like why Tang just just gets drawn to that individual.

1164
00:58:06,159 --> 00:58:07,800
But I don't think we ever will because they're dead

1165
00:58:07,880 --> 00:58:11,079
now and nobody will answer that. And I don't. I

1166
00:58:11,119 --> 00:58:13,760
don't really need to know. I don't really answers now

1167
00:58:13,800 --> 00:58:14,559
that I'm doing on it.

1168
00:58:15,119 --> 00:58:18,559
Speaker 1: Yeah, unless there is some some other mission he had

1169
00:58:18,679 --> 00:58:20,440
or some reasonab why I I just don't.

1170
00:58:22,599 --> 00:58:25,440
Speaker 2: I guess not Whalen Utani. It would be Whalen's offspring.

1171
00:58:26,800 --> 00:58:27,519
That's impossible.

1172
00:58:28,679 --> 00:58:33,039
Speaker 1: There was a line that Bishop says that, yeah, the

1173
00:58:33,119 --> 00:58:35,519
statement the B two's were a bit Oh no, that

1174
00:58:35,599 --> 00:58:37,440
was a misquote. What did he say, Oh, the A

1175
00:58:37,599 --> 00:58:42,639
twos were a bit twitchy. I'm assuming mister tang is sexual.

1176
00:58:43,239 --> 00:58:50,440
Oh yeah, yeah, twitchy erratic behavior. There is Uh, this

1177
00:58:50,639 --> 00:58:55,000
is a side note what I was reading Gosh hang

1178
00:58:55,079 --> 00:58:59,440
out with Me other Aliens. It seems like and I

1179
00:58:59,480 --> 00:59:03,800
think we talked talked about this in the Aliens Retrospective

1180
00:59:05,280 --> 00:59:07,280
because when the colonial Marines were on the ship, they

1181
00:59:07,320 --> 00:59:13,559
were talking about bug hunts, which tells me, Okay, maybe

1182
00:59:13,599 --> 00:59:17,159
they've encountered some of these other species before, aside from

1183
00:59:17,199 --> 00:59:19,159
the Xenomorse, and they just never were able to encounter

1184
00:59:19,280 --> 00:59:23,679
xenomorse after the fact. But then Octurians they mentioned that,

1185
00:59:23,800 --> 00:59:26,039
And Octurians have never been mentioned in any other like

1186
00:59:26,639 --> 00:59:30,000
IP I don't think of like Aliens or even predators

1187
00:59:30,480 --> 00:59:34,039
or whatnot, but they talk about how the octarians like

1188
00:59:34,119 --> 00:59:37,519
bipedal and like similar to humans or whatnot. And now

1189
00:59:37,599 --> 00:59:39,800
they're like colonal marines are talking about like sleeping around

1190
00:59:39,840 --> 00:59:42,360
with them and stuff like that. So it just it

1191
00:59:42,400 --> 00:59:46,719
seems like like in this world there are other like

1192
00:59:48,119 --> 00:59:53,400
conscious sentient humanoid beings. Obviously we know with predators and

1193
00:59:53,559 --> 00:59:56,360
with the pro the space jockeys, but it seems like

1194
00:59:56,400 --> 00:59:58,760
there's even a further step with this. I don't know

1195
00:59:58,760 --> 01:00:01,079
why I'm going down this this side tangent. It just

1196
01:00:01,159 --> 01:00:03,199
it popped into my head when we're talking about different.

1197
01:00:02,960 --> 01:00:05,760
Speaker 2: Alien species and yeah, fucking them all.

1198
01:00:06,159 --> 01:00:07,639
Speaker 1: Back to the eyes, you know.

1199
01:00:08,280 --> 01:00:09,519
Speaker 2: Circle full certain act.

1200
01:00:11,719 --> 01:00:16,679
Speaker 1: Yeah, anything else that you have, let me just check

1201
01:00:16,760 --> 01:00:17,280
my notes here.

1202
01:00:17,360 --> 01:00:23,000
Speaker 2: I wrote some things down. Oh as for my name, Yeah,

1203
01:00:23,000 --> 01:00:27,079
I like that line when uh moreau confriends like the

1204
01:00:27,159 --> 01:00:31,199
new captain. She's like, you're fucking them, aren't you. She's like,

1205
01:00:31,239 --> 01:00:33,840
you don't get lonely in space. And I'm like, man,

1206
01:00:33,920 --> 01:00:35,880
if you were signing up to go to space for

1207
01:00:35,960 --> 01:00:38,039
sixty five years and you're and you're like, well, I'll

1208
01:00:38,119 --> 01:00:40,239
just hold it, you know, I'll just hold all my urges,

1209
01:00:40,360 --> 01:00:42,360
Like come on, you gotta be prepared. You got to

1210
01:00:42,400 --> 01:00:45,760
have whatever you're doing, whether you got sex toys or something.

1211
01:00:45,840 --> 01:00:47,119
There's the jerk Off station.

1212
01:00:47,679 --> 01:00:48,400
Speaker 1: That robot arm.

1213
01:00:48,480 --> 01:00:58,920
Speaker 2: You know what he's doing. Oh yeah, I'm sure he's

1214
01:00:59,159 --> 01:01:05,920
he's a master. Oh yeah, but yeah, no, it's uh.

1215
01:01:06,960 --> 01:01:08,639
I just I just feel like this is something that

1216
01:01:08,719 --> 01:01:11,519
they should have like prepared for, right, Like you get water,

1217
01:01:12,239 --> 01:01:14,920
you get food. There's probably a gym or something on

1218
01:01:15,000 --> 01:01:17,039
the ship. Sixty five years a long time. I know

1219
01:01:17,119 --> 01:01:19,559
you're in croyud for a lot of that. But humans,

1220
01:01:19,599 --> 01:01:21,599
you know, we're mammals. We get sexual aerages, so you

1221
01:01:21,880 --> 01:01:24,719
gotta figure out a way to address that. But anyways,

1222
01:01:25,719 --> 01:01:28,280
oh yeah, and then my name I changed it to

1223
01:01:28,360 --> 01:01:31,840
Voyeur just because Moreau was just just watching people this

1224
01:01:32,119 --> 01:01:34,840
this one and it just sounded funny. So there you go.

1225
01:01:34,960 --> 01:01:37,199
I wrote down that this crew is probably the dumbest

1226
01:01:37,360 --> 01:01:39,840
crew that Wail and new TONI ever could have hired,

1227
01:01:40,199 --> 01:01:43,119
especially for this being like probably the most critical I

1228
01:01:43,159 --> 01:01:46,480
would argue a lot more critical than what Ripley's vision was.

1229
01:01:48,760 --> 01:01:52,920
We already talked about tang oh Man when I think

1230
01:01:52,960 --> 01:01:56,480
his name is Clem. He's like the younger Chap who

1231
01:01:56,599 --> 01:01:58,880
is working kind of with Moreau. Moreau gives him a gun,

1232
01:01:59,159 --> 01:02:01,199
and when they're going down to the science ye area,

1233
01:02:01,320 --> 01:02:03,800
like they're looking for I can't remember his name now,

1234
01:02:03,880 --> 01:02:07,519
but the like the saboteur guy that they have a name. Now,

1235
01:02:08,000 --> 01:02:11,599
they kind of know who they're looking for. Do a

1236
01:02:11,679 --> 01:02:13,840
quick shootout. This kid gets fucked up. I think he

1237
01:02:13,880 --> 01:02:17,599
gets shot like five times in this scene, gets shot

1238
01:02:17,639 --> 01:02:19,840
on the shoulder, gets shot in the leg. When they're

1239
01:02:19,880 --> 01:02:21,880
going into the lab, which is like, man, what a

1240
01:02:22,039 --> 01:02:25,159
terrible area to like have your like stand down, like

1241
01:02:25,199 --> 01:02:28,400
you got just creatures free in this room and you're

1242
01:02:28,440 --> 01:02:32,440
just gonna sneak in there. Whatever dire straits. I get it.

1243
01:02:33,599 --> 01:02:36,519
I just found it hilarious that Moreau like has Clem

1244
01:02:37,039 --> 01:02:39,880
next to him. Clem's like bleeding out, Moreau's like aiming

1245
01:02:39,920 --> 01:02:42,519
at the door. It's like, don't worry, man, we're gonna

1246
01:02:42,559 --> 01:02:44,920
get out of this. Because the guy like pops into

1247
01:02:44,960 --> 01:02:47,599
this room and like they show from his angle. I

1248
01:02:47,599 --> 01:02:49,599
don't even know how he fucking got this shot off,

1249
01:02:49,639 --> 01:02:51,960
because it's like Moreau and then this kid that's showing

1250
01:02:52,199 --> 01:02:55,159
probably five percent of his body is actually exposed, whereas

1251
01:02:55,199 --> 01:02:58,480
Moreau is like a good forty eight percent. I'll say,

1252
01:02:58,960 --> 01:03:02,400
just for argument's sake, this guy fucking domes this poor

1253
01:03:02,519 --> 01:03:05,719
kid like behind the terrain as if he's using like

1254
01:03:05,800 --> 01:03:09,559
ballistic bullets. It just goes right through headshots like he

1255
01:03:09,719 --> 01:03:12,039
wasn't even trying to get Moreau. This is like a

1256
01:03:12,400 --> 01:03:17,079
master assassin trying to take I just I just found

1257
01:03:17,079 --> 01:03:19,559
it so funny, especially like he gets clipped right in

1258
01:03:19,599 --> 01:03:21,000
the head and then it goes back to the other

1259
01:03:21,039 --> 01:03:23,440
guy's perspective and I'm like, I don't understand how he

1260
01:03:23,519 --> 01:03:24,000
made the shot.

1261
01:03:24,079 --> 01:03:26,440
Speaker 1: That is just he wasn't naming at Moreau at all.

1262
01:03:26,599 --> 01:03:29,119
Like he shoots, he shoots the young guy in the shoulder,

1263
01:03:29,199 --> 01:03:31,000
shoots him again in the leg, and then goes to

1264
01:03:31,079 --> 01:03:32,360
that headshot.

1265
01:03:33,440 --> 01:03:36,199
Speaker 2: Targeted, you know, target acquired. He fucking took out the

1266
01:03:36,199 --> 01:03:40,159
guy that he was going for. Oh yeah, you kind

1267
01:03:40,199 --> 01:03:42,079
of brought it up in the spoiler free section, but

1268
01:03:42,199 --> 01:03:46,280
the human like Zeno a little too humanoid for me

1269
01:03:46,360 --> 01:03:48,000
in certain the scenes. It didn't help that you have

1270
01:03:48,119 --> 01:03:51,000
this guy like riding on his head and like the

1271
01:03:51,159 --> 01:03:55,199
Xeno is just flailing around like some drunk idiot when

1272
01:03:55,199 --> 01:03:57,360
he's when he's like curled up looks a lot better.

1273
01:03:57,480 --> 01:04:01,239
But yeah, just just the certain shots look very alien

1274
01:04:01,320 --> 01:04:04,320
in suit, which is like they have some humanoid traits.

1275
01:04:04,480 --> 01:04:06,159
So I don't want to be that guy that's like

1276
01:04:06,280 --> 01:04:10,199
his arm is ten inches too long here in this scene.

1277
01:04:10,280 --> 01:04:13,880
Whatever it might be. But uh, there's just a beauty

1278
01:04:14,039 --> 01:04:19,119
to hiding the beast, you know where I don't know,

1279
01:04:19,239 --> 01:04:24,679
I sound like some some winer here, so I'll stop. Yeah,

1280
01:04:24,760 --> 01:04:27,400
I fucking hate these xeno chase scenes. I hope I

1281
01:04:27,400 --> 01:04:29,280
don't get another one in this show where it's like

1282
01:04:30,039 --> 01:04:32,199
a thousand meters so this character runs even though they

1283
01:04:32,239 --> 01:04:37,159
started right next to the Zeno don't make sense. Right

1284
01:04:37,239 --> 01:04:41,440
at the end when you Tawny is conversing with Moreau

1285
01:04:41,639 --> 01:04:43,320
and she's like, you know, the lawyers are coming in

1286
01:04:43,760 --> 01:04:48,320
he go out for arbitration, and Moro's like, no, that's

1287
01:04:48,360 --> 01:04:50,039
not gonna fucking work. You gotta do it my way,

1288
01:04:50,119 --> 01:04:54,199
and my way is I'm gonna kill boy Cavalier. And

1289
01:04:54,320 --> 01:04:56,199
then she doesn't really say too much and then she's

1290
01:04:56,239 --> 01:04:58,880
walking away. She's like, give him anything he wants and

1291
01:04:59,679 --> 01:05:02,119
you go. But like I think it's called like Cheru

1292
01:05:02,280 --> 01:05:06,840
Brock or something. It's like very just I forgot about

1293
01:05:06,840 --> 01:05:08,880
this song. I feel like it's like a guitar hero song,

1294
01:05:08,960 --> 01:05:11,280
but it just it's like an early two thousand song,

1295
01:05:11,800 --> 01:05:14,360
sounded very out out of place. And then it goes

1296
01:05:14,400 --> 01:05:16,800
to Moroa, just like looking out of the town, and

1297
01:05:16,960 --> 01:05:18,800
it just it just seems so weird of her being

1298
01:05:18,880 --> 01:05:21,239
like give him anything want or anything he wants, and

1299
01:05:21,280 --> 01:05:23,280
he just looks out He's like, this city's mine, I

1300
01:05:23,360 --> 01:05:24,320
can take anything.

1301
01:05:24,440 --> 01:05:24,559
Speaker 1: Now.

1302
01:05:25,039 --> 01:05:26,920
Speaker 2: I know that's not what actually was said, but just

1303
01:05:27,000 --> 01:05:28,800
the way that that he looked out in the world,

1304
01:05:28,880 --> 01:05:31,280
it just seemed really strange to me with the music

1305
01:05:31,360 --> 01:05:33,679
coming in. Didn't love it there.

1306
01:05:35,320 --> 01:05:37,400
Speaker 1: Do you think there's a chance, and this is probably

1307
01:05:37,440 --> 01:05:40,239
a long shot or stretch, that his daughter could be

1308
01:05:40,719 --> 01:05:42,679
recreated as like a synth or something.

1309
01:05:42,519 --> 01:05:45,000
Speaker 2: Like that, like one of the Lost boy children.

1310
01:05:45,159 --> 01:05:49,079
Speaker 1: People Prodigy is supposed to be the smartest guy in

1311
01:05:49,119 --> 01:05:51,199
the room, and if they know that this guy is

1312
01:05:52,360 --> 01:05:55,360
talking to one of the Lost children, so maybe probably

1313
01:05:55,480 --> 01:05:57,159
she does something to fuck with him.

1314
01:06:00,159 --> 01:06:02,920
Speaker 2: I think mind games perhaps, but not not like his

1315
01:06:03,000 --> 01:06:05,800
actual daughter. I think his actual daughter dead dead. Yeah,

1316
01:06:05,840 --> 01:06:09,280
that's that's an interesting theory because like that could be

1317
01:06:09,360 --> 01:06:11,320
a big mind fuck. But at the same time, Like,

1318
01:06:11,840 --> 01:06:13,880
I don't think Prodigy would have known about this guy

1319
01:06:14,000 --> 01:06:17,320
back then, right, And it seemed like wailing Utawny Corporation

1320
01:06:17,519 --> 01:06:20,360
is kind of the ones that, uh, I don't know

1321
01:06:20,440 --> 01:06:23,920
what they like were providing for the child or anything.

1322
01:06:24,000 --> 01:06:25,840
It just it just seemed like they knew that she died.

1323
01:06:26,440 --> 01:06:29,639
There's like a fire or something. I don't know. I

1324
01:06:29,760 --> 01:06:31,880
wouldn't be surprised if there's a little bit more to that,

1325
01:06:32,159 --> 01:06:34,519
just to like give him a row a turn there,

1326
01:06:34,559 --> 01:06:40,599
because it just seems like he's so pro Utawny Corporation,

1327
01:06:40,960 --> 01:06:43,440
which I don't even know it's a bad thing because

1328
01:06:43,480 --> 01:06:47,239
I hate boy Wonder. So this is the assassin. They

1329
01:06:47,280 --> 01:06:49,639
should have fucking kept the other guy alive, hired the

1330
01:06:49,719 --> 01:06:52,760
guy that headshoted Cleam. That guy don't miss He's a

1331
01:06:52,840 --> 01:06:58,239
bullseye in this. But I digress. The confession videos, I

1332
01:06:58,320 --> 01:07:00,559
just found it kind of funny when just the little

1333
01:07:00,679 --> 01:07:02,679
quick montage morros seeing them all and we see like

1334
01:07:02,760 --> 01:07:06,239
the actual captain, It's like, hey, I met a girl.

1335
01:07:07,840 --> 01:07:11,280
Speaker 1: That's not the actual captain. That's the second The second.

1336
01:07:11,400 --> 01:07:12,239
Speaker 2: Was the first captain.

1337
01:07:15,119 --> 01:07:17,960
Speaker 1: The first there's the captain, and then there was the

1338
01:07:18,599 --> 01:07:22,679
second runner up. Guy who met the girl and was

1339
01:07:22,760 --> 01:07:24,199
fucking in the cars was.

1340
01:07:24,199 --> 01:07:24,880
Speaker 2: The first captain.

1341
01:07:25,320 --> 01:07:27,119
Speaker 1: The first captain was like an older man that we

1342
01:07:27,199 --> 01:07:29,280
saw in the first episode, and he so he ran

1343
01:07:29,360 --> 01:07:31,760
into the vault first and he got slapped on first,

1344
01:07:31,920 --> 01:07:34,199
and then the other guy got hit second.

1345
01:07:34,480 --> 01:07:39,599
Speaker 2: Right, Okay, I forgot about that chap. Good good reminder there. Yeah,

1346
01:07:39,679 --> 01:07:41,079
it was just it was just a funny video. Soo

1347
01:07:41,079 --> 01:07:44,079
as he says that, like ro just like hits next.

1348
01:07:44,480 --> 01:07:47,239
He's just like so pissed off seeing these people with

1349
01:07:47,280 --> 01:07:49,719
their little confession videos. It was just a funny little one.

1350
01:07:49,760 --> 01:07:53,280
There's some other funny ones in there for two and

1351
01:07:53,400 --> 01:07:56,880
then just shouting out again. Just really cool camera work

1352
01:07:56,920 --> 01:08:00,920
shots in this really cool angles of like I think

1353
01:08:00,920 --> 01:08:03,400
it's specifically when Clem and Moreau go into that room

1354
01:08:03,440 --> 01:08:06,519
when they're doing the shootout and at some point like

1355
01:08:06,639 --> 01:08:08,920
the camera or no, sorry, I'm thinking of the earlier one.

1356
01:08:08,920 --> 01:08:12,800
It's when they're evacing the science room the two ladies,

1357
01:08:13,360 --> 01:08:16,800
and like the camera's kind of below a table and

1358
01:08:16,880 --> 01:08:19,840
then it like rises and follows them, but it allows

1359
01:08:19,960 --> 01:08:22,680
us to see the eyeball like moving around underneath the table.

1360
01:08:23,159 --> 01:08:26,920
Just a couple cool camera work plays like that throughout

1361
01:08:26,960 --> 01:08:29,000
the episode. I found it. It's probably been throughout the

1362
01:08:29,000 --> 01:08:31,159
whole show, but I think it's just because it's on

1363
01:08:31,439 --> 01:08:33,520
one of my favorite settings in all of film. This

1364
01:08:33,680 --> 01:08:36,720
like just claustrophobic ship that just looks really cool, whether

1365
01:08:36,800 --> 01:08:39,319
it's the sounds going off or the lights, a lot

1366
01:08:39,359 --> 01:08:42,720
of hallway shots that just slowly transition over to the

1367
01:08:42,800 --> 01:08:45,800
room and I just love that stuff because it reminds

1368
01:08:45,840 --> 01:08:47,920
me of the first Alien. When you don't see the alien,

1369
01:08:48,000 --> 01:08:50,199
You're like, where is this creature on this space ship?

1370
01:08:50,279 --> 01:08:53,800
Like it's got to be around here somewhere. So yeah,

1371
01:08:53,920 --> 01:08:56,600
and then just of course seeing the mother room is

1372
01:08:56,680 --> 01:08:59,840
such a cool design, even though it's very simple. Yeah,

1373
01:09:00,239 --> 01:09:01,880
I love a look at that. And I've already shouted

1374
01:09:01,880 --> 01:09:03,479
out the security room, so those were kind of all

1375
01:09:03,560 --> 01:09:08,279
my positive shout outs there at the end. Perfect cool.

1376
01:09:09,079 --> 01:09:14,159
Speaker 1: I don't have anything else in my notes. Uh So,

1377
01:09:14,399 --> 01:09:17,399
I think I think that does it. I think it

1378
01:09:17,439 --> 01:09:18,760
does all cool. Cool.

1379
01:09:18,840 --> 01:09:21,159
Speaker 2: Well, yeah, we not me.

1380
01:09:21,680 --> 01:09:23,640
Speaker 1: You and Travis will be back next week. I won't

1381
01:09:23,680 --> 01:09:28,159
be here for that episode on next Tuesday. Uh so, Yeah,

1382
01:09:28,399 --> 01:09:32,359
thank you for tuning in, and we'll be back soon. Yeah,

1383
01:09:32,560 --> 01:09:34,399
so we'll see you in the search bar, have a

1384
01:09:34,439 --> 01:09:34,760
good one.

1385
01:09:35,520 --> 01:09:35,960
Speaker 2: Mm hmm