Speaker 1: You're listening to Bill Handle on demand from KFI AM
Speaker 1: six forty KFI. I Handle here. It is a Monday morning,
Speaker 1: de number twenty three. What do we have? What thirty
Speaker 1: seven days left before the new administration comes in, and
Speaker 1: we are looking for some big changes, not only with
Speaker 1: President Musk in charge, but also Vice President Trump. It's
Speaker 1: going to be a fascinating, fascinating new administration. By the way,
Speaker 1: did you read Trump already came out and said I
Speaker 1: am in charge, not Musk. I make the decisions. How
Speaker 1: long do you think Musk is going to last? Are
Speaker 1: you asking me in general? In general? Yeah, I'm asking
Speaker 1: all of you. How long do you think Musk is
Speaker 1: going to last? In his influence, his position of power,
Speaker 1: his public persona relative to the administration.
Speaker 2: Well, we know from experience that President Trump's feelings towards
Speaker 2: someone can change rather quickly and quite intensely. I don't
Speaker 2: know that he's ever dealt with someone who is just
Speaker 2: as important.
Speaker 1: I can't wait.
Speaker 2: So this is going to be a clash of the titans.
Speaker 1: Whenever it happens, I know Trump's going to win it
Speaker 1: because he's the president and he can just shut down
Speaker 1: Musk and Musk only has X to deal with. Of course,
Speaker 1: must can always buy the United States, but that he's
Speaker 1: buying a losing proposition business wise. Now here's what's going on.
Speaker 1: And I want to take you back a little bit
Speaker 1: in history that prior to the election of Joe Biden,
Speaker 1: when Trump was running for his second term, he was
Speaker 1: and the Republicans were pushing, pushing like crazy for reform
Speaker 1: on the border. We want some reform. We have to
Speaker 1: shut down the border. We have to have some security.
Speaker 1: And under Biden it was open arms, it really was.
Speaker 1: He just didn't do enough. The last few months. He decided, whoops,
Speaker 1: I'm going to be running. I'm pretty cynical here. I'm
Speaker 1: going to be running. Therefore, let's sit down and talk
Speaker 1: about a border deal. So they knocked out a border deal.
Speaker 1: I mean, Republicans, Democrats, bipartisans sat down and came up
Speaker 1: with a much much more better border deal. It had
Speaker 1: passed Congress, or was about to pass Congress, and Trump
Speaker 1: stopped it. He shut it down, And the question was why,
Speaker 1: And he made it very clear, I want this to
Speaker 1: be part of my campaigning. I want to say that
Speaker 1: under the Biden administration, there was no security and I'm
Speaker 1: going to make that argument, so I can't have a
Speaker 1: deal in Congress. I mean he actually said that. So now,
Speaker 1: the same thing happened with this debt ceiling. Where what's
Speaker 1: round is square, square is round. So the Republicans have
Speaker 1: always argued, we don't want the debts to be increased, increased, increased,
Speaker 1: because that just means deficit spending, deficit spending. Now it's
Speaker 1: gone the other way. Trump, in fact, is demanding a
Speaker 1: premature increase, so when he comes, the increase will already
Speaker 1: have happened and he can attack it and say this
Speaker 1: was Biden on Biden's watch. And it's really weird when
Speaker 1: you think about it. First, the whole concept of deficit
Speaker 1: spending and debt ceiling. Now the Congress has to vote
Speaker 1: debt ceiling. It has to allow itself to borrow more money.
Speaker 1: That's the law. And that came in after World War
Speaker 1: One when it just cost a fortune to run the
Speaker 1: war and they were selling liberty bonds. Liberty bonds is
Speaker 1: borrowing money and Congress has to allow itself to do so,
Speaker 1: that's the law. Well, a lot of economists are saying,
Speaker 1: wait a minute, why do we even bother? Why do
Speaker 1: we have to say, okay, we have to borrow money.
Speaker 1: Our deficits are in saying they're gonna be two trillion
Speaker 1: dollars this year alone. I mean, can you imagine remember
Speaker 1: when deficits were three four hundred billion and it was
Speaker 1: like that exploded the national debt. Obama comes into power,
Speaker 1: comes into the presidency with a twenty trillion dollar deficit
Speaker 1: or national debt twenty trillion dollars. It is thirty four trillion. Now,
Speaker 1: it's beyond comprehension. And I have said for years and
Speaker 1: years saying, wait a minute, you know this is unsustainable.
Speaker 1: You can only keep on borrowing more money than you spend.
Speaker 1: You can't keep on doing that forever. Well I've changed
Speaker 1: my mind. You can do it forever. That's it. There's
Speaker 1: no limit now, you and I. You know, let's say
Speaker 1: you know your family income is one hundred thousand dollars
Speaker 1: a year of both of you working, all right, So
Speaker 1: you spend one hundred and twenty five thousand, and then
Speaker 1: next year you're still making one hundred you spend one
Speaker 1: hundred and seventy five thousand. Then you spend two hundred
Speaker 1: and fifty thousand dollars because of course you're borrowing the
Speaker 1: rest it used to be. At some point it all
Speaker 1: collapses on you. Nope, not with a federal government. Did
Speaker 1: you know that states can go bankrupt, States can actually
Speaker 1: file for bankruptcy under the bankruptcy law of the United States.
Speaker 1: Federal government can't. We've already Orange County went bankrupt. I
Speaker 1: mean the County of Orange went bankrupt twenty something years ago.
Speaker 1: Utility up in Washington, whoops, Washington something whatever utility program
Speaker 1: they went broke. Federal government doesn't go broke. So this
Speaker 1: was a political football, and it was Mike Johnson, the Speaker,
Speaker 1: who finally cut the deal to increase the debt ceiling
Speaker 1: and to keep the government going. Because what happens is,
Speaker 1: we talked about this, the shutdown. If Congress does not
Speaker 1: give itself its permission, you have Republicans and Democrats fighting
Speaker 1: each other. Usually Republicans don't want to increase the debt
Speaker 1: sealing Democrats due and this one is completely turned around,
Speaker 1: is completely crazy. What happens is people don't get paid anymore.
Speaker 1: Federal workers don't get paid now. By law, certain Social
Speaker 1: Security is still get your checks, the military still gets
Speaker 1: their checks. That's law. But the reality is that what
Speaker 1: if there's no money to pay for it? And that's
Speaker 1: what happens when you have the increase the national debt,
Speaker 1: you borrow more and more and more money. So we'll
Speaker 1: see what happens is going to be fascinating. By the way,
Speaker 1: Trump is also called even though he's asking for an
Speaker 1: increase now, he's also called for abolishing it. And a
Speaker 1: lot of people do say it should be abolished. Why
Speaker 1: do if we're going into debt, why do we have
Speaker 1: to allow our why do we have to vote to
Speaker 1: go into debt? And there's the argument, we just go
Speaker 1: into debt, more and more debt, and it doesn't stop.
Speaker 1: Doesn't stop. By the way, the last two times when
Speaker 1: the government really went into debt, Civil War the government
Speaker 1: went into insane debt, but that was paid off, and
Speaker 1: then World War One that started the deficit spending. Two
Speaker 1: times in modern history where the budget was balanced, forget
Speaker 1: about going to doubt, I mean just balanced, right. The
Speaker 1: income was the outgo was the same as the income,
Speaker 1: once during the Bill Clinton years when the economy was
Speaker 1: on fire, and then once since World War Two during
Speaker 1: one year of the Eisenhower administration. After that, it has
Speaker 1: gone crazier and crazier and crazier. Okay, by the way,
Speaker 1: that makes sense, because it didn't to me. We follow, okay,
Speaker 1: thank you? That makes This is why, this is why
Speaker 1: I do what I do, Because I try to explain
Speaker 1: even stuff that I had no idea what I'm talking about.
Speaker 1: It all works out. Just say it with a lot
Speaker 1: of verb, verb, and sound like you know you're talking
Speaker 1: about and network. So okay, in any case, I want
Speaker 1: to do a story that's kind of fun, and that's
Speaker 1: the story of Elf on the Shelf. And what has
Speaker 1: happened to the concept of Elf on the shelf. It
Speaker 1: has screwed up kids so badly that psychologists are spinning
Speaker 1: and kids are scared to death. So the concept of
Speaker 1: Elf on the shelf. Actually it's become a holiday fixture
Speaker 1: since two thousand and five. It was a picture book
Speaker 1: called the Elf on the Shelf, a Christmas tradition came
Speaker 1: out and it was meant to keep an eye on
Speaker 1: your kid's behavior before Santa comes to town. You know
Speaker 1: who's naughty, who's nice sort of thing. So how do
Speaker 1: Santa know? Because you know, I remember as a kid, well,
Speaker 1: as a kid, I grew up in a Jewish home.
Speaker 1: There wasn't a lot of Santa there. But what happens?
Speaker 1: How does Santa know that you are nice? All you
Speaker 1: know is you have the list. Well, I'll tell you
Speaker 1: how Santa knows, and that is that elf on the
Speaker 1: shelf tell Santa. And by the way, that elf on
Speaker 1: a shelf just doesn't hang there because here's the tradition.
Speaker 1: You put the elf on a shelf in different places
Speaker 1: every day or every night before Christmas, and that becomes
Speaker 1: the game. Except it becomes a game where the kids
Speaker 1: are scared to death, especially those that believe in Santa Claus.
Speaker 1: My kids did, and they were sort of like their
Speaker 1: mid twenties. They believe in Santa Claus and they don't
Speaker 1: want to be stuck on that knotty list. Well, let
Speaker 1: me tell you what's going on. First of all, kids
Speaker 1: are getting really screwed up on this. They're not happy,
Speaker 1: especially when they have no idea. I mean, there's no
Speaker 1: place for them to hide. It's basically a big brother,
Speaker 1: the elf on the shelf always looking at you, always
Speaker 1: figuring out what you're doing. You don't even know where
Speaker 1: the elf on the shelf is. You have to find it.
Speaker 1: And what parents doing hiding these elves on the shelves,
Speaker 1: because that's become the big thing is every night it's
Speaker 1: a different place and kids get to either figure out
Speaker 1: or they're told. So it's now not only become a tradition,
Speaker 1: it's become a sort of a social media challenge. You
Speaker 1: have people that are hiding these elves and going on
Speaker 1: TikTok or going on YouTube and showing the world Instagram
Speaker 1: showing the world where they're hiding those elves on shelves.
Speaker 1: And let me tell you with what's going on with
Speaker 1: psychologists and people who deal with kids, this is not
Speaker 1: going well in many cases because parents are creating these
Speaker 1: elaborate scenarios for their elves and sharing all of this
Speaker 1: on social media. Now there's a new crop of parents
Speaker 1: who are saying, hang on a minute, you know, we
Speaker 1: don't want to get trapped in this holiday routine because,
Speaker 1: I mean, it can get really bad. There was an interview,
Speaker 1: i mean an article done in the Wall Street Journal
Speaker 1: where they interviewed parents and some of them and this
Speaker 1: was on social media. What you do is you get
Speaker 1: rid of them. You have to explain the kids why
Speaker 1: there's no elves on shelves anymore, Well, because it's only
Speaker 1: for the bad families, or then it just gets wonderful.
Speaker 1: We wanted our cats at home not to get eaten,
Speaker 1: and the elves on a shelf, that's how dangerous they
Speaker 1: can become. So that's like telling can you imagine basically
Speaker 1: somehow Santa Claus then becomes this evil purveyor of social justice.
Speaker 1: So there's a story about who's interviewed this, Lasanne Skinner,
Speaker 1: and she presented this scenario for her kids. Her son asked,
Speaker 1: why don't we have an elf on a shelf because
Speaker 1: we used to have it? And first thought that came
Speaker 1: to her head is she's thinking why And people do
Speaker 1: this all the time, to think why why don't we
Speaker 1: have the elf on the shelf anymore? Because it turns
Speaker 1: out not a good idea, But the kids who've had
Speaker 1: it for years wonder why not. Well, she came up
Speaker 1: with her cats, and the cats might make the elf
Speaker 1: their next target and the elf might get eaten. So
Speaker 1: at this point the kids in home were all in
Speaker 1: agreement it's best that the elves shouldn't be at home
Speaker 1: because they they're going to be killed by the cats.
Speaker 1: Twenty one million of these elves have been sold since
Speaker 1: two thousand and five, and now what's being described as
Speaker 1: a Klaus couture. You have pets for the elves. I
Speaker 1: mean you actually can buy pets for your shelf on
Speaker 1: the elf. There's a float in the Thanksgiving Day parade
Speaker 1: they've had since nineteen twelve. There was a stage musical
Speaker 1: in twenty nineteen, and there's an app that offers parents
Speaker 1: ideas of where to hide their elves at home and
Speaker 1: can set reminders for when to move them. One of
Speaker 1: the ideas is to put it in the bathroom. Put
Speaker 1: one of these elves sorted in the corner of a
Speaker 1: bathroom so your kids don't notice. Now, let me ask
Speaker 1: you this. You are six years old and you're going
Speaker 1: to the bathroom and you find out there's someone looking
Speaker 1: at you, a little elf up in the corner. You
Speaker 1: think that's worth a few years of therapy. You think,
Speaker 1: next time your kid goes into a restroom, either public
Speaker 1: or private, looks around. What's going on? I'm looking for
Speaker 1: the elf. Why don't they call them elves instead of elves?
Speaker 1: I thought they were elves, weren't they? But this is
Speaker 1: elf on a shelf. I love this stuff. I love
Speaker 1: it when totally benign, wonderful traditions turn out to be
Speaker 1: not only dangerous, but it screws up kids for thirty years. Okay,
Speaker 1: that's why I got it. We didn't celebrate Christmas, but
Speaker 1: my parents did put little Nazis on the mantle and
Speaker 1: I just did doban. That was a mess for me
Speaker 1: for decades and decades. All right, now I want to
Speaker 1: do a story about you. There's an La Time story
Speaker 1: and it has to do with La City Attorney's office
Speaker 1: conducting an internal review of what of city department city
Speaker 1: employees using Google Chat messages that are automatically deleted after
Speaker 1: twenty four hours. This started in twenty twenty three when
Speaker 1: a house was going to be built in the hills
Speaker 1: Mount Washington, and there had to be a hearing, and
Speaker 1: the coalition that is fighting this, the Crane Boulevard Safety Coalition,
Speaker 1: which tried to stop the building of this claimed that
Speaker 1: the suit has filed saying that their appeal of the
Speaker 1: construction project because a project was in fact granted, and
Speaker 1: the coalition said, no, you can't because of all of
Speaker 1: these circumstances involved in putting this hill on a hillside,
Speaker 1: the home on a hillside and then city city and
Speaker 1: planning and everything. I mean, in general, it's not easy
Speaker 1: to build in the City of Los Angeles. Well, the
Speaker 1: appeals didn't get a fair hearing. Why because closed door
Speaker 1: meetings and confidential reports circulating among city employees, including council members,
Speaker 1: position on these projects what their position is prior to
Speaker 1: a public hearing. And here's the problem, big deal. So
Speaker 1: messages turn around, messages are deleted after twenty four hours. Well,
Speaker 1: that's probably in violation of the law because there's a
Speaker 1: city ordinance that says these records, all records, all techs
Speaker 1: have to be kept for two years. And these disappear
Speaker 1: after twenty four hours. And you think, oh my god,
Speaker 1: how is this going on because that's clear violation. And
Speaker 1: all the secret stuff going back and forth between council
Speaker 1: members and construction people and lobbyists and none of that
Speaker 1: is available. Could all disappeared in twenty four hours. You go, okay,
Speaker 1: so I just had to just start Yeah, since twenty ten,
Speaker 1: this has been going on when the city contracted with
Speaker 1: Google for email other services, and you've got state and
Speaker 1: local laws. According to a lawyer for a Common Cause,
Speaker 1: which is a public watchdog, he said the laws. State
Speaker 1: law is pretty clear on the public's right to access
Speaker 1: most things that are relevant to the public's business, and
Speaker 1: the city isn't retaining messages long enough to even determine
Speaker 1: whether they're subject to disclosure under the Public Records Act,
Speaker 1: for example. So let's say I am accusing the city
Speaker 1: council or people within the City council, this whole thing
Speaker 1: being rigged. I'm talking about a project, right, whether it's
Speaker 1: a commercial building in this case, it was a house
Speaker 1: that was going to go up on the hillside. And
Speaker 1: I'm arguing that there are shenanigans going on between everybody,
Speaker 1: and I want a I file a disclosure Act Public
Speaker 1: Records Disclosure Act. Well, there are no public records. All
Speaker 1: the discussions were deleted within twenty four hours. So what
Speaker 1: the city does is we'd be more than happy to comply,
Speaker 1: but there's nothing to comply with because all those conversations
Speaker 1: have disappeared. Now, the LA Times and investigating this show
Speaker 1: that the use of Google Chat disappearing within twenty four
Speaker 1: hours those messages by city staffers was widespread. Public business
Speaker 1: was discussed on the platform, and none of that should
Speaker 1: have happened. And it's not as if the city council
Speaker 1: has been deemed corrupt. Not in the city of Los Angeles.
Speaker 1: How many of city council people have gone to jail,
Speaker 1: have gone to prison in the last few years, more
Speaker 1: than a few, and the accusation of misdeeds have in
Speaker 1: fact been leveled. But how do you prove it, Well,
Speaker 1: you can't with chat messages that you can't have happened. Now,
Speaker 1: sometimes there are emails that go back and forth, and
Speaker 1: there were conversations that go back and forth that maybe
Speaker 1: were recorded, testimony from witness who are there at a meeting.
Speaker 1: That can get council people, can get people we're in
Speaker 1: management of the city, even just straight out employees in trouble.
Speaker 1: But when it comes to this kind of use of
Speaker 1: Google Chat, well that's why this lawsuit has been filed.
Speaker 1: And it's kind of important. I mean, usually you know
Speaker 1: these gadfly groups I'm not a big fan of. But
Speaker 1: what was it about the ACLU that I once heard?
Speaker 1: Because the AHLU, and it was described perfectly to me,
Speaker 1: ACLU being this kind of an organization that is a
Speaker 1: watchdog group that files lawsuits against the government, that represents people,
Speaker 1: even reprehensible people, it represents based on constitutional issues, and
Speaker 1: someone described the ACLU, much like these various organizations, as
Speaker 1: ninety five percent of the time they are a pain
Speaker 1: in the ass. They are impossible to deal with, they
Speaker 1: get in the way of business, they get in the
Speaker 1: way of government. Five percent of the time. They are
Speaker 1: invaluable five percent of the time. You have to have
Speaker 1: them because they are the last protection in terms of rights.
Speaker 1: All right, Okay, here's a great story by the way
Speaker 1: that I love, and it is about tourist attractions next year.
Speaker 1: And usually we talk about new attractions that are opening
Speaker 1: and what the current attractions are going to do with
Speaker 1: how big a deal are going to make. For example,
Speaker 1: Disney at Disneyland every year has their holiday, their Christmas
Speaker 1: business with the parade, and I've been there one year
Speaker 1: where they do this candlelight thing. I think they do
Speaker 1: it every year. So that's kind of up, you know,
Speaker 1: that's kind of neat. How about the tourist attractions that
Speaker 1: have closed that you're never going to see again, those
Speaker 1: that have closed and are done by next year, that
Speaker 1: is a week and a half from now. We're a
Speaker 1: week from now Las Vegas, the Tropicana and the Mirage
Speaker 1: both disappearing now The Tropicana has been around since what
Speaker 1: Las Vegas started in the nineteen forties. I think the
Speaker 1: Flamingo was the first one of the Tropicano was right
Speaker 1: up there during the Mob years, and it's right there
Speaker 1: on Las Vegas Boulevard. The Mirage. I remember when it
Speaker 1: opened in nineteen eighty nine, and that I think was
Speaker 1: the first high end luxury hotel casino hotel or hotel casino,
Speaker 1: and it was a big deal. It's going down. It's
Speaker 1: replaced by a new hard rock hotel shaped like a
Speaker 1: giant guitar. The Tropicana pulled down in October to make
Speaker 1: state space for a stadium for the Oakland A's which
Speaker 1: is coming, which are coming to Las Vegas. In twenty
Speaker 1: twenty four, the Sphere transformed the Vegas Strip. I have
Speaker 1: not been there but for the Strip. I don't know
Speaker 1: if you've been there. The Sphere this huge ball. I mean,
Speaker 1: it's hundreds of feet across and it's all led and
Speaker 1: what they can do with it is incredible. And it
Speaker 1: was kicked off with a series of concerts by you
Speaker 1: two and everybody who's seen it says it is unbelievable. Well,
Speaker 1: that's there now and that's certainly not closing down. I
Speaker 1: don't know if you've ever been to Paris. There is
Speaker 1: a drag club club j Missu or Mischue. I mean,
Speaker 1: it's probably the most famous drag club in the world.
Speaker 1: It's done the death of its owner, Michael Mischau Katie
Speaker 1: or Caddie on twenty twenty. Since then, for some reason,
Speaker 1: it started going downhill and it's almost well among the
Speaker 1: gay crowd, even the non gay crowd. This is like
Speaker 1: the Mulan Rouge. So that's done. The Ruben Museum of Art,
Speaker 1: New York City, one of the world's largest collections of
Speaker 1: Himalayan art, is closing its physical space and becoming a
Speaker 1: museum without walls. And you know, that is a shaker because,
Speaker 1: as you know, Himalayan art is one of those popular
Speaker 1: forms of art in the world. Because I wake up
Speaker 1: every morning looking at a picture book of Himalayan art.
Speaker 1: Sure it's gone, and some of those works, including the
Speaker 1: popular Tibetan Buddhist Shrine Room. Yeah, that's a big one.
Speaker 1: By the way, I don't know if you've ever been
Speaker 1: to the Tibetan Buddhist Shrine Room. Yeah, I haven't either.
Speaker 1: That may move to other museum New York City. They're
Speaker 1: closing a museum.
Speaker 3: The photo Grassfiska, the Photograsfiska. It's a Stockholm base photography
Speaker 3: museum and it's closing down. That's kind of neat, though,
Speaker 3: you know, Stockholm Photography is kind of neat. September twenty
Speaker 3: ninth was its last day, although the owners say they
Speaker 3: may move to another location now, something close to us.
Speaker 3: The Wayfarer's Chapel National Historic Register listed glass church designed
Speaker 3: by Lloyd Wright, son of Frank Lloyd Wright, and unfortunately
Speaker 3: it's closing down. It's iconic, not because people don't go there,
Speaker 3: it's because landslides in the area. So what the trustees
Speaker 3: did is they took it apart. They literally disassembled it
Speaker 3: piece by piece, and it's all in a storage facility
Speaker 3: and they're looking for another home.
Speaker 1: Giyan Kyoto in Japan, these are places that are really
Speaker 1: neat and they're closing down. I mean, are they iconic
Speaker 1: in the sense of, you know, you know, Notre Dame
Speaker 1: and the Louver iconic, of course not, but if you
Speaker 1: still go there. So these streets and gion Kyoto training
Speaker 1: traditional geishas, but they become all the tourist attractions and
Speaker 1: the buildings where they live is part of it. You know,
Speaker 1: they're tearing those down because you got the Geisha paparazzi
Speaker 1: And what the Geon local Council did was just simply
Speaker 1: block off the streets, so no more visiting there. You
Speaker 1: go to Houston. The Rothko Chapel in Houston fourteen artworks
Speaker 1: by painter Mark Rothko, one of the greatest of the
Speaker 1: painters of the modern area. Was he cubist or it
Speaker 1: was I'm trying to remember what kind of where they
Speaker 1: described the modern art of Rothko very so like I
Speaker 1: think Kodinski and it's like, I'm trying to remember what
Speaker 1: they call it. But anyway, his painting, you're talking forty
Speaker 1: eighty million dollars for his paintings. That's done why because
Speaker 1: Hurricane Barrel came in and wiped it out in Houston.
Speaker 1: So now there are other roth Co rooms and they're
Speaker 1: going around. Paul Allen founded the Museum plus Labs in
Speaker 1: Seattle from his own personal collection of vintage computers tech devices,
Speaker 1: and it actually encouraged people to use touch play with
Speaker 1: everything there. He dies in twenty eighteen. The pandemic hits
Speaker 1: two years later, and the museum closes in twenty twenty
Speaker 1: four and the objects from the museum will be auctioned off.
Speaker 1: And then one of the nature's great iconic visuals, the
Speaker 1: Glen Canyon National Recreation Area, the Double Arch. If you
Speaker 1: remember the Double Arch, and it collapsed Navajo sandstone dating
Speaker 1: back one hundred and ninety million years, erosion, water level charge,
Speaker 1: that changes, and it just came down, and oh it
Speaker 1: was horrible that it did. But hey, life continues on.
Speaker 1: Climate change is here, so if you want to go
Speaker 1: to any of these places, you can't. Fortunately, the big
Speaker 1: placers are still around, which is good news. Notre Dame
Speaker 1: Cathedral now coming back. It already has come back five
Speaker 1: years after it was burnt. It was grievously damaged in
Speaker 1: that fire. And all the big ones other than the
Speaker 1: ones I mentioned, still probably around all right. KFI AM
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