Speaker 1: All right, it's the Ben and Skin Show ninety seven
Speaker 1: point one The Eagle. Thanks for hanging out with us today.
Speaker 1: Now we're talking about this big Maverick story that just
Speaker 1: keeps getting bigger and bigger. Nico Harrison had his exit
Speaker 1: interview press conference in front of the assembled media. That happened,
Speaker 1: oh about two hours ago, and it was on the
Speaker 1: heels of an explosive article that dropped today from ESPN
Speaker 1: by one Tim McMahon, who, because he's covering the NBA playoffs,
Speaker 1: wasn't there today to ask any questions about, you know,
Speaker 1: Nico's response to his article. Tim Cato of DLLs and
Speaker 1: Mark Stein of DLLs both had articles that came out
Speaker 1: over the weekend talking about various aspects of this. Tim's
Speaker 1: was probably the most in depth and clearly had been
Speaker 1: exhaustively researched over several, I mean months really when you
Speaker 1: look at it and look at the timeline involved. One
Speaker 1: of the things that Tim Cato kind of hinted at
Speaker 1: was people don't really know what Patrick Dumont thinks yet.
Speaker 1: But you guys heard the press conference today, right, yes?
Speaker 1: Would you guys agree that it was presented like there
Speaker 1: would be nothing changing moving forward, Did.
Speaker 2: You take that sense nothing changing? In fact, the team's
Speaker 2: going to be very similar, going to add a rookie
Speaker 2: in the draft.
Speaker 1: Yeah, And they think they're gonna be really good next
Speaker 1: year and if they're healthy, they should be.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 1: And but you're not going to get Kyrie back to
Speaker 1: I mean, I would say January is optimistic.
Speaker 2: Also, Man, I hate to say this. I hate to
Speaker 2: say this, but you know, Anthony Davis had played so
Speaker 2: much this year and played so well early, and he
Speaker 2: was he'd been hurt so much leading in. I get it,
Speaker 2: you know, And I would hear the nicknames. Everybody has
Speaker 2: the nickname day to day, Street closes, all those things.
Speaker 2: He's always out and ever since he's got here, he's
Speaker 2: been nothing but hurt, right, And it's like I have
Speaker 2: a hard time watching him, Like I don't know, he
Speaker 2: rarely makes it through a game without being hurt. And
Speaker 2: it's because I think he fought back early to play hurt,
Speaker 2: you know what I mean. He wanted to be their
Speaker 2: first team. So he's never fully healed. And that's a
Speaker 2: big part of not only Tim Cato's article, but Tim McMahons. Okay,
Speaker 2: because and I respect the hell out of that he
Speaker 2: was trying to help, But my confidence that he's gonna
Speaker 2: stay healthy moving forward is extremely low. And you got
Speaker 2: a thirty two and thirty three year old guy. If
Speaker 2: they're healthy, yeah they're gonna be good. But I don't
Speaker 2: have confidence in that right now.
Speaker 1: This is what I said when we traded for Kyrie Irving.
Speaker 1: And I have loved Kyrie Irving, but it's really easy
Speaker 1: to pull up Basketball Reference and look at how many
Speaker 1: games a guy plays that year in and year out, Like.
Speaker 2: It ain't hard.
Speaker 1: And to me, and I follow the league pretty closely,
Speaker 1: when a guy misses a bunch of games for a
Speaker 1: myriad of reasons, to me, that's a red flag, whether
Speaker 1: you like the guy personally or not. And so that's
Speaker 1: why I was scared of Kyrie Irving. But when he
Speaker 1: got here, it was extraordinary, and I got to where
Speaker 1: I never spent any time worrying about Kyrie Irving's availability,
Speaker 1: and then the horrible thing happened. And so if I
Speaker 1: take that same outlook and I pull up Anthony Davis's
Speaker 1: Basketball Reference page, there's a lot of games missed. So
Speaker 1: I don't have to personally like Anthony Davis or think
Speaker 1: he's like one of the greatest two way players in
Speaker 1: all the world and always has been to go. Oh,
Speaker 1: but by the way, he misses a lot of games.
Speaker 1: That's just that's not even opinion, that's just irrefutable fact.
Speaker 2: Let's pull it up and look at it.
Speaker 1: So I think, you know, to sit here and look
Speaker 1: at this and go, Man, if they're completely healthy, they're
Speaker 1: a great team. They're a team that competes for a championship.
Speaker 1: I agree with that. I think it's reasonable. I also
Speaker 1: think it's very reasonable to be skeptical that that's going
Speaker 1: to fall into place just because of all these other,
Speaker 1: you know, things that we can look at and tell you.
Speaker 2: That it's not gonna happen, right, And I get it.
Speaker 2: You know, this is the reason this trade happened is
Speaker 2: because they didn't like dealing with Luca. It was a
Speaker 2: lot to work with him. They were about to have
Speaker 2: spay him seventy million year, They had no control over him,
Speaker 2: and they didn't like teams are targeting him on defense,
Speaker 2: and they chose go in another direction. The problem is,
Speaker 2: I get it, Nico loved a d loves AD. He
Speaker 2: may be stuck in the way he feels about Ad
Speaker 2: from six years ago, because if you traded for twenty
Speaker 2: six year old a D, it's a better deal. Or
Speaker 2: if you I mean, it's almost like he dealt with
Speaker 2: the Lakers from a point of weakness. I have to
Speaker 2: trade Luca because Luca's tainted goods. All right, Well, if
Speaker 2: I'm gonna take Luke off your hands, I can't pay
Speaker 2: full price for because you're not you're telling me, you're
Speaker 2: telling me you're not trading me full power Luca. Right,
Speaker 2: he's a problem for you you have to get rid of. Okay, Well,
Speaker 2: then I can't pay full price. I mean all that
Speaker 2: None of that matters, because all that matters is that
Speaker 2: the GM wanted a D and he went and got
Speaker 2: his guy.
Speaker 1: He went and got his guy, and and you know,
Speaker 1: we'll listen to this audio coming up at four o'clock
Speaker 1: and people can decide for themselves. But one thing that
Speaker 1: is true that I agree with what Nico said. He
Speaker 1: hasn't publicly said anything negative about Luka Doncic.
Speaker 3: Yeah, he hasn't.
Speaker 1: A people are taking what reporters have said the Mavericks think,
Speaker 1: and it's not on record stuff, And so we're inferring
Speaker 1: from these reports that Nico thinks this, this, and this,
Speaker 1: and I think it's all very reasonable. But to Nico's point,
Speaker 1: if you go on what's on the record, he's never
Speaker 1: said anything negative about Luka Doncic. And you know, he's
Speaker 1: not the only person in the world that doesn't think
Speaker 1: Luca's a great defensive player. Luca knew that criticism, which
Speaker 1: is why for the last year and a half, Luca's
Speaker 1: been pointing out his defensive qualities that have been good. Right,
Speaker 1: there's a reason he's done that. And then obviously Nico's
Speaker 1: on record is saying he loves Anthony Davis.
Speaker 3: Real quill quick. When you take the reporting and then
Speaker 3: you add that to the hot stove, that is the
Speaker 3: anger of MAVs fans, you get burned. And that's what
Speaker 3: people were saying. It was a burn And that's how
Speaker 3: I'm end that segment.
Speaker 2: Yeah, now that's why I like that segment so great.
Speaker 1: Awesome.
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