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Speaker 1: Hello ladies, gentlemen, and welcome back to the Fallout season

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two review series. This is for episode six. I am

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the mutant Tress now and I'm joined by.

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Speaker 2: The ookie Dooky Tayta Field.

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Speaker 1: Yes we are back. This is actually me and Tato's

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first Fallout review together. So there you go. Next two weeks.

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tyr Field, what did you think about episode six for

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fall Out Season two?

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean it's where're at now. We're just kind

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of really picking up speed, and I feel like, okay,

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after last week's episode, like there's there's a lot that

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happened here and it kind of really set me for

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a loop after seeing Goggin's character just be like impaled

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on this, Yeah, this sphere. I don't know what the

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Ghoul's limitations are. Again, I'm not very savvy on the

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going on, but the character and like these creatures, I

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Speaker 1: So I feel like they can. I'm sure they can

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die a certain way, but I remember there was a

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couple episodes ago when she shot him and she was like,

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well you can heal and this girl can't. So I

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feel like they are. I'm not saying like Wolverine esque

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like right away. But I think unless they get blown

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because they are different things, but they both had different

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Speaker 1: Yeah, could he survive without that green rock or whatever

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vials well, no, I think no matter what, he would

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think he's going through a lot of tribulation. I think

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he's going to come out on top as a much

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more of like a hero after this experience because he

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just mentally was just broken in these past couple of episodes.

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past and the present, I'm digging it. I think it's

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it's great so so far. I've really just been loving

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the season a lot more than the first one. In

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this episode has continued to keep that trek going forward.

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Steel narrative. I'm wondering if that's ever gonna come full

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Speaker 1: Not this season. I don't think it's done. I think

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because there's so stuff going on. I imagine, God, what's their

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buddy name there? Who just immunied against them? Who turned

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against them? Why have I forgotten his name? He's like

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the third lead. He was like Lucy's. Oh wasn't Maximus?

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Titus or Titan is Titus. Yeah. I think we will

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dovetail him get back to that, just not this season.

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next year or another year. But I don't think the

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Brotherhood of Steel is done forever, just maybe for now

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like it's been similar. And I've said this before that

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it was like with it Welcome to Dari Warre. I

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was enjoying the show, but not really like, oh I

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last week, But even the ending of five, I was

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was kind of disappointing because I liked him. I liked

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him in the role. It just it was a weird

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about where he's on for a little bit. And then

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the other one because the last episode I was on,

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the deaf the death claw or not a cliffhanger.

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Speaker 1: That was super disappointing. So the show, I think, does

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it a couple of times where they said something out

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really fun or interesting and then like, yeah, we'll get

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to that later. Oh we don't know if we're gonna

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come back to even for you, like the brother was

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still like, ah, there's a civil war, but that might

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be later on. Like even in this episode, I felt

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like we got and I guess we can just talk

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about Titus because he only had a few pisodes so

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or a few scenes. I'll just say over all this episode,

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one of the two. I feel like we're building to that.

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power armor suit and then they talked about if they're

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I can't remember his buddy name. If I can't remember Titus,

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Speaker 1: Yeah. Which also, while he's with I thought he was

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gonna go back if he's here, who's watching those kids?

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off screen and whatnot. Like I thought we're gonna get

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a whole half an episode of them find that death Claw,

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and we didn't even get like a like a full

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minute of it. We didn't got nothing zero percent. At

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one point when Walton Goggins got lifted up. I did

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think it was a deaf claw and I thought we

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were doing this stuff of oh man, because I'm somebody.

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I'm sorry if people like this, it's fine, I get it.

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I saw all the tweets and all the think pieces

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of you know what I love about man or Boba

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fet the show. They humanized the sand people, the Tusken raiders.

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They're not just monsters, not just beasts. They are living

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creatures too. That's great for me, somes in a world

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I just need them to be monsters and terrible things.

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So at first I thought it was a deaf clause like,

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oh no, I don't need this thing, like, oh that's

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why they didn't attack is made with the Ghoules. There's

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some connection there, so we'll get to that. So I

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was happy that didn't happen. But and I know, I

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but with Titus, Oh sorry, anyways, that's why you can't

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leave the wasteland. They could just get killed. But that's right.

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two was like, okay, honestly, Titus is gonna eventually meet

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up with Lucy and the Ghoul, and we were like, Oh,

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is that gonna happen in between? That's gonna be a

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very last thing. Would they even say that the next season?

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Who knows? Man, I know it was one episode between,

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but it felt, I don't know how you felt it

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to me, felt very easy how Titus and his friend

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just linked up back with the Ghoul like get very easy,

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like And I didn't get the sense of like, okay,

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maybe because we saw them leave and then episode five,

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I think they were in the back seat. They weren't anywhere,

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So I wouldn't what I would have loved the show

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to open up with this season or not this scene

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in this episode or somewhere in this episode was a

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we saw them walking, But I would have loved a

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like they've been on the move like Frodo and Sam,

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and maybe I could believe it. Then I'm like, Okay,

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they've just been move in and they got here. It

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initial location. So for me, again, I don't mind that

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we're he's back with Google. Obviously they have a tentious relationship,

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and I'm sure they will mean we get Titus and

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Lucy again, which was like a fun, you know, budding romance,

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but I uh that actively will take points off because

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they know we joke about these shows all time fast traveling,

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but with this situation of being gone for so long

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and so far off and a whole other thing, just

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to kind of almost bump in the ghoule didn't really

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work for me. So how did that play for you?

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Speaker 2: I mean, I think that it was way too coincidental

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and like, okay, maybe they were trying to just subtly

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slide it in there where okay, get me my vials,

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get me my vials, and then you know, dog dog

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Meat just grabs the hat and then saunders off. It's like, okay,

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that's them planting the seed. But then he just shows

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up randomly at this camp where Titus is like, is

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everything just within close proximity of Vegas? Is that that's

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how it works? Because I thought that they were really

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really far away. I thought they were like in California

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or whatnot, And you're telling me they went all.

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Speaker 3: Over like Titus's crew you thought that, yeah, because they

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were by the ocean, there's the pier, Like yeah, well

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not just Titus's crew, but even like Vault thirty thirty

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one to thirty three, Like that's really far away.

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Speaker 2: But now I feel like those characters are now kind

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of close to to Vegas too, Like I.

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Speaker 1: Guess because that lady that his sister, because I know how

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much to I guess we have like a little story

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that has evolved there. But her brother when she was

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talking that girl, she was a part of people from

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near the end of last season, right, that kind of

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exposed her dad, right, was telling what really happened, which

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characters helped so the so the brother, remember he was

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talking that lady that was very like covered in dirt

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and garbage. Yeah, I think that, Yeah, she was a

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part of that kind of she revealed the truth, right,

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that was part of her story. I thought, yeah, yeah,

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So even then, let's say, okay, her brother is what's

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they are where Lucy and the Ghoul left at the

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beginning of last season. To your point, again, not only

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does it feel close, it's just like I guess he's

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actively looking for his sister. If like this is the

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first time I could be wrong, but this is the

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first time I recall him the show that he's talked

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to another character in the Wasteline. It's been like, oh yeah,

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she went this way. So it just kind of feels like,

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for our point of view, the first person he's asked like, oh,

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I know your sister. She's probably dead. But this is

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so again everything feels very easy. But we did get

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revealed that he kind of has a confident with one

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of the girls in there, or confident I should say.

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They had a you know, fun back and forth about

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their pets and everything. And then he has revealed to

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her that Okay, the jig's up for him and she

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trusts It seems like she trusts him and gets as

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far as oh yeah, this isn't part of the plan.

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I woke you guys up early because she says like,

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oh man, when the other people find out, and we

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have that guy who's been on his ass for these

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past club episodes like me and mugging them everything already

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was suspicious of Lucy's brother found out, and then this

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episode ends with him end of his story end with

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him getting choked out. I don't think he's dead now

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that like I know it sounds bad and nothing. That's

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the actor. I wouldn't shed it tear if this character

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was gone. Like, I really don't have much. I know

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they got to get them back with Lucy, but I

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think we've all us and the Discord have said that

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I'd say ninety percent of this and the vault stuff,

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Like again, we got some more vault stuff in this episode.

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I just don't really care that much. They just haven't

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made it interesting enough for me to feel invested. So, yeah,

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what do you think about the stuff going on Lucy's brother?

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And then we got a little bit of the vault

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of those two vaults clashing there. But again, I don't

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know much to add for it.

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Speaker 2: I mean, I'm sick and tired of this whole like

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meeting thing, Like I got my little meeting here and

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we're using up the water and the food and people

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love the snacks. It's like, man, you guys just deserve

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to die at this point, Like this is natural selection.

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It's finest right now, right like, and there's only a

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few people here that are trying to actually make a

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difference and put their foot down and say, hey, this

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is actual survival, Like we need to be conscious about this.

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And it's like no, no, no, we're gonna have our snacks.

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We're gonna have all salty snacks. So people get really

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really thirsty because we're running out of water. It's like,

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oh my god. So I'm ready to kind of move

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on from that. But this is what I was selling

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Dylan last week is that we've got a lot of

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different narratives going on right now. I'm wondering how they're

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all going to tie together between because now we got

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Titus and Goggin's character, well.

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Speaker 1: I'd say Titus is kind of squared off because the

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Brotherhood is still thing. I'd say it's done for now,

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and now he's going to be back with Lucy and

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uh goole. So I think that that's that's one story down.

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Speaker 2: That's one story. And then yeah, okay, so we got

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Lucy and the dad, and then we've got the fallout sorry,

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the vault dwellers that are on their own. Yeah, so

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the brother dealing with the crew from a vault tech

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because you got attacked, and then we're dealing with people

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in the vault.

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Speaker 1: So even though that's cool story, those are somewhat separate

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because you have like this storyline of Wolton Goggins and

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his wife. Right, obviously it's day, but we're still getting

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a lot of screen time of it.

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Speaker 2: So so it just to me seems like, Okay, we're

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going to kind of deal with like a climactic conclusion

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back at home base, back at the vault, because we're

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going to have Lucy escorting her dad back there, and

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I think that's going to be a relatively quick track.

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Speaker 1: Is she going to get back there?

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Speaker 2: I don't think that's I think it's gonna I think

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it's gonna be really really quick. I don't think we're

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going to focus on what's in this vault here. I

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think like Barbara Howard and whatnot. Like, I think that's

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gonna be a play like in the next season when

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God's character goes back there or something like that. I think, Okay,

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what's his name? Is it Hank, Lucy's father?

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Speaker 1: Oh, I can't remember. I know it's Cod McLaughlin.

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Speaker 2: But yeah, I think I think so he's going to

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be I think he's going to be properly goe escort

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it back to vaults thirty one to thirty three, and

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that's gonna in three really, I think so, because it's

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gonna tie But how how is how is like the

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home vault's going to tie into the store with Lucy though?

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And how are like the upstairs vault dwellers that are

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up there with the brother how are they going to

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tie into this story now too?

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Speaker 1: Right?

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Speaker 2: Because I think once they maybe they see Lucy carrying

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like the guy her dad and they're like, oh, you're

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you know, we know who you are, Like yeah, hey,

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Bosta da da da, And then they go into the

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vaults and they see the two vaults that wore with

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each other, right.

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Speaker 1: Like maybe like I think there's a version of that

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could happen with somebody. You were, right, Hank is his name? Over?

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See your Hank McLean or McLean? U. My worry is

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not worry. But I guess I think what they're gonna

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do is they're gonna interlink the Brothers storyline with the

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vault people because they I can't remember the specifics. I

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didn't rewatch last season, but some of those Falt people

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are the ones that put the brother locked up in

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that vault, right, they kind of got rid of him

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he found the secret. So I feel that the guy

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who's like the big vicious, like you're lying to us

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that choked him out. He could be the one that

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goes back to a vault or finds out what happens,

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and that's interlinking where they find out more about the

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situation and the vaults and maybe they take over. I

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just feel like, if you were to ask me, do

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I believe that Hank's gonna go back there for judgment

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or die? I think he died before he got back there,

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Like along the way, something's gonna happen, So I don't

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think it's I don't think we're getting back there, especially

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because it's not like that vault is looked at as

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like an actual good place, right it's very if he

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and I guess you could get somewhere. They go back

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and some join with Hank and some join with Lucy,

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But I don't know if I need Lucy in her

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whole band of people. So if I feel that's what

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gonna happen, is they're gonna just put the brother's storyline

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the vault people. Somehow that'll go together. But I don't

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think Hank is. I don't think it's happening even right now.

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It seems like Lucy was having second thoughts about that,

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right because you know, and I want to ask you

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this because this kind of goes into me and if

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Hank will survive. Last I think was last week when

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Goule made the deal, which I really liked that. I

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liked that he constantly that one time he shot that

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kind of innocent person that was dying, he betrayed Lucy.

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I like that he is constantly making choices against her

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main character. I feel like we see so many movies

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and shows and even games where the characters like, I'm

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a badass, I'm an ass sole like he can't trust me,

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but all I do the whole time is like good things.

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Like as much as I think Hugh Jackman as Wolverine

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is a great performance, but like you watch X one, like, yeah,

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I don't like he's a hero. He's trying to say people,

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it's like, are you really that much of a badass?

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Like I think every once in a while, the reluctant

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heroes have to reluct and do something. I don't know

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if is relunked just a word by itself. I don't

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know it is now because all words are made up,

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all of them have to do that. So I appreciate

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they always right because especially last episode, Goole felt like

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he was being really nice to Lucy, almost over the

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top of his pattern in the back, I'm like, this

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is odd, Like I feel like I can buy them

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growing together, but full I'm just like supporting while she

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throws up. But the turn. What I was gonna ask you,

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because I didn't get the chance to listen to you guys,

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was reviewed. I don't know if you talked about it,

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Goole traded. The idea was, hey, I got I'm assuming Hank.

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I got your wife and daughter. They're here the sedated

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or whatever it may be. They are here safe. If

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you want a chance to see him, you gotta give

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me my daughter. Do you think that's real? Because I

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think Hank's bluffing. I don't think that's real.

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Speaker 2: You don't think it's real.

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Speaker 1: No, I'm not saying they're dead. I'm just saying he

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could use that information to get Lucy back. And my

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pitch to you is that so I could see Hank dying.

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Is ghoul in his rage when he gets there and

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finds out that Hank lied and they're either dead or

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not there, He's gonna be mad and just cap him

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right in the head. That's what I think is gonna happen.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I could see that because he was ready to

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kill him before.

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Speaker 1: Right, Yes he was, and Lucy kind of saw that.

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Speaker 2: So Lucy just that, Yes, I could see that. I

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could see that.

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Speaker 1: So yeah, so you think there's chances they are not there.

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I'm not saying they're dead, but.

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Speaker 2: I don't think they got chips on their their brains

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if if that's the case.

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Speaker 1: No, I don't think so. I think maybe we were.

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And my only reason is I think the daughter is

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still in play, the thing about the wife, and because

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we can talk about the flashbacks with the ghoul the

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second they did, because the whole season one, season two,

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it's the ghoul. What's this? It's Howard, right, he is

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a Cooper Hower Howard Cooper. I think it's okay, Howard.

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I think I'm still gonna say Walton Goggins are the ghoul.

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But anyways, when we hit those flashbacks, him be in

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the act or Cooper Howard season one, season two, he's

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finding all this stuff at about his wife and everything

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bad she's doing. But up until this episode, they never

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spoke about it. Right, she didn't know that he knew.

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So to me before that, I always thought Oh, well,

470
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that's why I think the ghoul is gonna find his

471
00:20:13,119 --> 00:20:15,559
wife and daughter, because he's never had that chance to

472
00:20:15,599 --> 00:20:17,640
motherfucker her. He's never had that chance to be like,

473
00:20:17,880 --> 00:20:19,759
you're a piece of shit, you'd kill these people. I

474
00:20:19,759 --> 00:20:21,440
don't even know you. All the stuff he said in

475
00:20:21,440 --> 00:20:24,200
this episode, I was waiting for that down the line,

476
00:20:24,200 --> 00:20:26,759
But because he said it in a flashback, now, that

477
00:20:26,839 --> 00:20:28,759
makes me worry that the wife because of what war

478
00:20:28,839 --> 00:20:30,640
is there to say to her. The daughter is different,

479
00:20:30,680 --> 00:20:33,640
but the wife, I don't know if she if he's

480
00:20:33,640 --> 00:20:35,599
gonna ever bump into her again, or if he does,

481
00:20:35,640 --> 00:20:40,680
she's like even more like villainous, like she's fully somewhere else. So, yeah,

482
00:20:40,720 --> 00:20:42,519
what do you think are the chances of Maybe not

483
00:20:42,720 --> 00:20:45,480
in this season, but what are the chances with the uh,

484
00:20:45,640 --> 00:20:48,079
the wife and the kid. Maybe maybe the artist froze,

485
00:20:48,079 --> 00:20:49,319
maybe Hank just has him. I don't know. But what

486
00:20:49,319 --> 00:20:50,519
are you feeling right now in your gut?

487
00:20:52,119 --> 00:20:54,680
Speaker 2: I mean, in retrospect, I feel like I feel like

488
00:20:54,680 --> 00:20:58,200
her tank was empty. It didn't look like it was

489
00:20:58,279 --> 00:21:00,799
full the crowd tank. If you go back and rewatch

490
00:21:00,880 --> 00:21:03,960
that scene, but you don't get a clear look at

491
00:21:03,960 --> 00:21:04,799
the daughter's tank.

492
00:21:05,519 --> 00:21:08,920
Speaker 1: Yes, hmmm, that's what I'm saying. I feel like the

493
00:21:09,039 --> 00:21:11,759
daughter is still hanging on and we're gonna get to

494
00:21:11,799 --> 00:21:16,319
his full answer after does that break and we're back.

495
00:21:16,400 --> 00:21:18,359
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496
00:21:18,400 --> 00:21:21,400
get every episode we do ad free Taylor Field. Final

497
00:21:21,440 --> 00:21:23,440
conclusion for this week, how do you feeling about the family?

498
00:21:25,480 --> 00:21:28,119
Speaker 2: Yeah, I just think that you make a good point

499
00:21:28,160 --> 00:21:31,160
with the pre existing conversation and him kind of letting

500
00:21:31,200 --> 00:21:34,599
loose on Barbara Howard there before the bombs drop. I

501
00:21:34,599 --> 00:21:37,279
think there's definitely a wiggle room for her to kind

502
00:21:37,279 --> 00:21:39,279
of go down a darker path or whatnot, although it

503
00:21:39,279 --> 00:21:41,680
seems like she's unstable about it because when she had

504
00:21:41,720 --> 00:21:46,400
those meetings in this episode, it definitely wasn't peaches and cream, Right,

505
00:21:46,400 --> 00:21:48,680
Everyone's talking about, Oh, we can have private highway lanes

506
00:21:48,720 --> 00:21:50,839
for those that want to pay more to get access

507
00:21:50,960 --> 00:21:52,920
to like leaving the city and stuff. Oh we got

508
00:21:53,000 --> 00:21:55,640
like these beacons that alert people da Dad. So she's

509
00:21:55,680 --> 00:21:58,359
definitely feeling the guilt and the weight of it. But

510
00:21:58,440 --> 00:22:01,240
now we know too that she's got pressure for it

511
00:22:01,720 --> 00:22:04,400
as well. Right, someone was in the elevator with her

512
00:22:04,440 --> 00:22:04,920
and like, well.

513
00:22:04,920 --> 00:22:06,720
Speaker 1: Yeah, he's from season one. Remember that guy?

514
00:22:06,880 --> 00:22:08,039
Speaker 2: I didn't remember him.

515
00:22:08,119 --> 00:22:09,799
Speaker 1: No, yeah, I think he got killed off. But he

516
00:22:09,839 --> 00:22:12,960
is from season one, Michael Emerson, so they killed him off.

517
00:22:12,960 --> 00:22:15,039
But yeah, he had a role in season one. I

518
00:22:15,039 --> 00:22:18,480
can't remember. I don't know if he was the head

519
00:22:18,640 --> 00:22:20,720
because at one point didn't did they? Weren't they like

520
00:22:20,759 --> 00:22:22,799
Caroen around the head that could talk or something like.

521
00:22:22,759 --> 00:22:26,359
Speaker 2: That, the scientist that was the head. I'm pretty sure.

522
00:22:26,519 --> 00:22:27,200
Speaker 1: Yeah, I think it was.

523
00:22:28,079 --> 00:22:28,640
Speaker 2: That was him.

524
00:22:29,440 --> 00:22:31,799
Speaker 1: Yeah, so that kind of tied back there of how

525
00:22:31,839 --> 00:22:37,200
important he was. So yeah, it's just because I like

526
00:22:37,240 --> 00:22:38,799
that she was still trying to whin him back and

527
00:22:38,839 --> 00:22:40,799
I'm your wife and we love each other. I am

528
00:22:40,839 --> 00:22:44,400
just curious because unless they have another conversation these next

529
00:22:44,440 --> 00:22:46,839
two episodes, we didn't get to see. Like I said,

530
00:22:46,839 --> 00:22:49,119
what is the role the wife? I understand the daughter, right,

531
00:22:49,160 --> 00:22:50,599
you want to save her, you love her. I'm not

532
00:22:50,640 --> 00:22:52,279
saying he doesn't love his wife, but if they end

533
00:22:52,319 --> 00:22:54,079
in this way where hey, she maybe helped some of

534
00:22:54,119 --> 00:22:57,920
the stuff go down, maybe it's not the greatest reunion,

535
00:22:58,119 --> 00:23:01,160
or maybe it's just that he it's just his wife

536
00:23:01,160 --> 00:23:03,640
and he knows her and he's gonna save anybody right,

537
00:23:03,759 --> 00:23:07,039
you know, like it's just gonna like someone I know.

538
00:23:07,279 --> 00:23:10,839
I don't know, So let's see. Was there anything? Oh,

539
00:23:10,880 --> 00:23:12,440
I guess we didn't talk about this big thing with

540
00:23:12,480 --> 00:23:16,960
the ghoul. So he's stuck on this pole for at

541
00:23:17,000 --> 00:23:19,279
least half the episode that Lucy kicked him onto or

542
00:23:19,279 --> 00:23:21,960
punched him last week with the power armor, he's stuck there.

543
00:23:22,400 --> 00:23:25,000
I really liked at one point it's like my daughter's alive.

544
00:23:25,039 --> 00:23:27,640
My daughter's alive, and he like hypes and and adrenalines

545
00:23:27,680 --> 00:23:29,799
himself up and he's pulling himself up and then he

546
00:23:29,839 --> 00:23:32,440
just falls right back down. He couldn't get there. But then,

547
00:23:32,680 --> 00:23:35,279
which I have to ask you because I feel like

548
00:23:35,319 --> 00:23:37,960
you knew, But I knew right away. I heard the voice.

549
00:23:38,279 --> 00:23:40,880
The pole gets cut, someone pulls them up, there's a

550
00:23:40,880 --> 00:23:44,079
bunch of stomping as a cloak figure. But you know

551
00:23:44,119 --> 00:23:46,200
who was that? You know who was right?

552
00:23:46,359 --> 00:23:46,960
Speaker 2: Hell boy?

553
00:23:47,279 --> 00:23:50,920
Speaker 1: Yeah, Peerlman. And I knew the second because it didn't

554
00:23:50,920 --> 00:23:53,319
just sound like a monster voice. It sounds like Ron

555
00:23:53,359 --> 00:23:57,359
Pearlman with a little audio enhanced or audio change and whatnot.

556
00:23:57,480 --> 00:23:59,720
But yeah, I don't know. I feel like this was

557
00:23:59,720 --> 00:24:02,400
something that we'll have to ask Dylan about next week

558
00:24:02,480 --> 00:24:04,640
when they when he was dragging him and they just

559
00:24:04,640 --> 00:24:08,559
did this big wide shot like a steershot of a church.

560
00:24:08,599 --> 00:24:11,519
I'm like, this is probably definitely some location or story

561
00:24:11,559 --> 00:24:13,480
from the game that I have no idea what this is.

562
00:24:13,519 --> 00:24:16,240
I just feel like they emphasized like that with his hood.

563
00:24:16,559 --> 00:24:19,240
He had the green skin with the location, and he

564
00:24:19,319 --> 00:24:22,640
had this idea that he's trying, which which was interesting.

565
00:24:22,839 --> 00:24:24,960
He wants to go to war with the people that

566
00:24:25,079 --> 00:24:26,640
did this. He's like, well, they create us, and we

567
00:24:26,720 --> 00:24:29,079
got to kind of show them that, you know, because

568
00:24:29,119 --> 00:24:30,960
you create us and did these terrible deeds, we kind

569
00:24:30,960 --> 00:24:32,319
of have to punish you, right, So it sounds like

570
00:24:32,400 --> 00:24:34,720
he wants to have maybe war against the humans or

571
00:24:34,720 --> 00:24:36,200
I don't know if it's just the Voltech people, but

572
00:24:36,240 --> 00:24:39,440
I'll say the humans. And what I found interesting is

573
00:24:39,440 --> 00:24:42,319
healed the ghoul and the Ghul said, no, I'm just

574
00:24:42,359 --> 00:24:44,400
trying to find my wife and daughter. He didn't like

575
00:24:44,680 --> 00:24:46,880
withhold him against his will. He didn't kill him. He

576
00:24:46,880 --> 00:24:48,200
just said, well, I guess if you're not with me,

577
00:24:48,559 --> 00:24:50,480
I can't help you anymore. And he just dumped them back.

578
00:24:50,519 --> 00:24:53,839
So I found that interesting of like, it seems like

579
00:24:53,880 --> 00:24:56,720
his motivations are kill kill kill. We're like, let's take

580
00:24:56,759 --> 00:24:58,720
all these people that did this to us, but if

581
00:24:58,799 --> 00:25:01,079
you turn them down, He's like, okay, well, well you know,

582
00:25:01,119 --> 00:25:04,519
I'm just saying I give any more Recis resources to you,

583
00:25:04,599 --> 00:25:06,759
so you go away. So what do you think about

584
00:25:07,119 --> 00:25:10,200
seeing Ron Permlin because I imagine that's setting up for

585
00:25:10,359 --> 00:25:12,240
something maybe season three. Like That's why I think this

586
00:25:12,279 --> 00:25:14,079
is a story we don't know about. Like, I don't

587
00:25:14,079 --> 00:25:15,839
think you just get maybe it's just a cameo, but

588
00:25:15,839 --> 00:25:18,000
I think Ron Perlan could have a bigger role as

589
00:25:18,160 --> 00:25:19,839
But yeah, what do you feel about seeing Ron Perlman

590
00:25:19,920 --> 00:25:21,799
in a fun little role? And then what was your

591
00:25:21,799 --> 00:25:25,000
take on this mutant storyline here?

592
00:25:25,119 --> 00:25:27,680
Speaker 2: Forming I don't know anything about the mutants, but I

593
00:25:27,720 --> 00:25:30,359
remember a long time ago talking with I think you

594
00:25:30,400 --> 00:25:32,759
and Dylan and maybe in Kirkland were examining things in

595
00:25:32,799 --> 00:25:36,640
the follow Law a little bit, and there was a

596
00:25:36,680 --> 00:25:39,519
difference between mutants and ghouls and such, and I was

597
00:25:39,559 --> 00:25:42,279
just kind of reading into it. But I don't know

598
00:25:42,400 --> 00:25:46,200
enough about the backstory involving those two factions, but it

599
00:25:46,279 --> 00:25:49,079
sounds like this is definitely not a storyline that they've

600
00:25:49,119 --> 00:25:52,200
introduced that you're going to conclude this season. This sounded like, yeah,

601
00:25:52,240 --> 00:25:55,599
some deep they were building up, like a revolution or

602
00:25:55,640 --> 00:25:59,200
whatnot against I'm assuming the Brotherhood of Steel or something

603
00:25:59,279 --> 00:26:03,240
for their race. This, you know, prejudiced views on ghouls

604
00:26:03,400 --> 00:26:07,319
and mutants and and such. So I'm down for it.

605
00:26:07,359 --> 00:26:09,960
I love Ron pearlman. Man, he's the one true hell Boy.

606
00:26:09,960 --> 00:26:11,559
They got to bring him back for hell Boy three.

607
00:26:11,599 --> 00:26:12,839
I don't know why they haven't yet.

608
00:26:12,920 --> 00:26:16,799
Speaker 1: So you didn't do that, good Taylor, God damn it.

609
00:26:16,920 --> 00:26:22,279
Speaker 2: But no, I think that I think that it's I

610
00:26:22,599 --> 00:26:25,519
think him being in the show is a nice treat.

611
00:26:25,599 --> 00:26:29,160
It's very delightful. And yeah, it's just I think that

612
00:26:29,200 --> 00:26:32,960
there's a lot of this. There's a lot of other

613
00:26:33,200 --> 00:26:36,680
excellent laughing. I don't doing anything, you know, it's Madison's

614
00:26:36,720 --> 00:26:38,960
doing some eye catching things.

615
00:26:39,160 --> 00:26:43,880
Speaker 1: She's I don't know, man, So put it away, put

616
00:26:43,920 --> 00:26:48,119
it away. We're on air, wait to off air hell Boy?

617
00:26:48,400 --> 00:26:51,960
Oh boy? Yeah, these are not good results. Well, I

618
00:26:52,039 --> 00:26:54,640
don't know, it's that's weird. So Hellboy won made ninety

619
00:26:54,720 --> 00:26:57,200
nine million. I thought that would have made more. It's

620
00:26:57,279 --> 00:26:59,279
kind of crazy. You're lucky you ever got a sequel?

621
00:26:59,640 --> 00:27:03,319
Nine ninety nine million. The budget was sixty six million,

622
00:27:03,440 --> 00:27:06,000
so not really much of a profit even when you

623
00:27:06,039 --> 00:27:09,440
put printed in advertising. And then the sequel made It

624
00:27:09,480 --> 00:27:11,359
was made for eighty two to eighty five million. That

625
00:27:11,440 --> 00:27:14,480
made one hundred and sixty eight million, so again kind

626
00:27:14,480 --> 00:27:17,000
of just broke even so so it did make more,

627
00:27:17,039 --> 00:27:19,480
though than the first one, so that is kind of surprise.

628
00:27:19,519 --> 00:27:20,559
But I guess they weren't making too much.

629
00:27:20,559 --> 00:27:22,480
Speaker 2: Then look at the one with David Harbor. That one

630
00:27:22,640 --> 00:27:25,319
just flow. There's the other one after that.

631
00:27:25,720 --> 00:27:27,160
Speaker 1: Oh have you watched that yet?

632
00:27:27,279 --> 00:27:29,799
Speaker 2: I thought, No, I'm gonna go back and watch the

633
00:27:29,839 --> 00:27:30,920
Ron Pearlman one.

634
00:27:31,319 --> 00:27:33,279
Speaker 1: Yeah. I never really liked them those. I gotta try

635
00:27:33,279 --> 00:27:35,599
them again. How about one was fine? Cold Army was

636
00:27:35,640 --> 00:27:37,279
in my bag, but there were some of my more

637
00:27:37,359 --> 00:27:39,640
least favorite Del Tour ones. But did you ever watch

638
00:27:39,680 --> 00:27:41,279
the Harbor one? Because I never saw that either.

639
00:27:41,480 --> 00:27:44,799
Speaker 2: I did. I didn't like it. It was just it

640
00:27:44,920 --> 00:27:46,400
just didn't jive the right way.

641
00:27:46,720 --> 00:27:48,640
Speaker 1: Okay, which sucks is I actually feel like Harbor was

642
00:27:48,680 --> 00:27:51,200
a good choice for like a new hell Boy, but

643
00:27:51,880 --> 00:27:53,880
we got the original one here. We'll have to see.

644
00:27:53,920 --> 00:27:56,039
I think we could maybe get like because there is

645
00:27:56,039 --> 00:27:58,319
two episodes. Maybe there's something in the finale eluding to

646
00:27:58,319 --> 00:28:00,839
this character again or something, but I don't think it's

647
00:28:00,880 --> 00:28:02,920
anything big right now. I think it's future setting, so

648
00:28:03,640 --> 00:28:05,839
I am interested. So we'll see healed the goal and

649
00:28:05,839 --> 00:28:07,519
send him on his way, so we'll see what happens.

650
00:28:08,000 --> 00:28:10,359
And then uh yeah, Lucy finally with her, I think

651
00:28:10,359 --> 00:28:12,079
this is our last big story to talk about. Was

652
00:28:12,119 --> 00:28:14,839
she gets there full? You know. I like the scene

653
00:28:14,839 --> 00:28:16,279
with her dad to oh did you read the book?

654
00:28:16,319 --> 00:28:19,839
And I have time and which I appreciate what they're

655
00:28:19,880 --> 00:28:21,720
trying to go for here, and I guess I'll break

656
00:28:21,720 --> 00:28:23,880
down the specifics of it in a second. But he's

657
00:28:24,160 --> 00:28:26,240
talking about this book. He says like, oh, they you know,

658
00:28:26,319 --> 00:28:28,319
the moral of the story is all his violence, all

659
00:28:28,319 --> 00:28:29,839
these things these people do for each other, and it

660
00:28:29,880 --> 00:28:33,039
was really for nothing, right, And I think, especially now,

661
00:28:34,279 --> 00:28:36,880
like the way they're posing this, because they go to

662
00:28:36,920 --> 00:28:40,039
his office, she's gonna rest him, and he's fully agreeing, Okay,

663
00:28:40,079 --> 00:28:41,160
that's what you have to do. He's like, oh, I

664
00:28:41,160 --> 00:28:43,599
respect you. You haven't changed that much. Let's go out. And

665
00:28:43,599 --> 00:28:45,319
then when she goes down the office, she sees this

666
00:28:45,440 --> 00:28:47,519
lobby and or whatever work office. It looks very much

667
00:28:47,559 --> 00:28:50,440
like old valtech where he was working of people just

668
00:28:51,039 --> 00:28:54,640
doing work, happy, obeying off. So we know back in

669
00:28:54,680 --> 00:28:57,119
the neck there's chips, but I think what that is

670
00:28:57,200 --> 00:29:00,000
causing is in the I don't know, since the beginning

671
00:29:00,119 --> 00:29:03,400
of time. For many things, especially the Bible, there's the

672
00:29:04,200 --> 00:29:07,160
obviously the choice of free will. We all have that right,

673
00:29:07,400 --> 00:29:09,599
But then there's people I don't think people actively argument

674
00:29:09,640 --> 00:29:12,319
that that idea of well, is it good that we

675
00:29:12,400 --> 00:29:14,440
have free will? If we do all these bad things? Right?

676
00:29:14,480 --> 00:29:17,000
If we steal, we murder, all this type of stuff,

677
00:29:17,000 --> 00:29:19,759
like all the bad things people do. Should people have

678
00:29:19,880 --> 00:29:21,720
the choice of free will? Because look at what they

679
00:29:21,799 --> 00:29:24,200
do with it? Some people? Right, and that's more like

680
00:29:24,200 --> 00:29:28,200
a spiritual like man versus God. This is that same argument,

681
00:29:28,240 --> 00:29:31,519
but instead of God or the Bible, it's like tech

682
00:29:31,599 --> 00:29:33,720
and sci fi stuff. So I like that they're taking

683
00:29:33,759 --> 00:29:36,480
that very old argument that's been around forever, or just

684
00:29:36,519 --> 00:29:39,000
that thing that people a pontificate about all the time

685
00:29:39,000 --> 00:29:41,960
when bad stuff happens and think about, Okay, instead of God,

686
00:29:42,000 --> 00:29:45,359
it is science and there's people using technology. And to

687
00:29:45,440 --> 00:29:47,640
his point, he brought out these two people that were

688
00:29:47,640 --> 00:29:49,839
from different tribes. They're fighting literally to the death. They

689
00:29:49,880 --> 00:29:52,039
don't care what's going on. They don't care what's happening.

690
00:29:52,079 --> 00:29:53,960
They are trying to actively kill each other. And he

691
00:29:53,960 --> 00:29:56,640
tells Lucy that, hey, if you push this button, it'll stop,

692
00:29:56,720 --> 00:30:00,880
and then when she does, they stop, and they don't

693
00:30:00,880 --> 00:30:02,559
want to kill each other anymore. They could be friendly.

694
00:30:02,880 --> 00:30:05,519
So that's where it is interesting. They give him a point, right, where,

695
00:30:05,519 --> 00:30:07,880
of course, like we are in the side of like

696
00:30:07,920 --> 00:30:09,680
I think most people are of, Like, you want people

697
00:30:09,720 --> 00:30:11,279
to have free will because the people that do the

698
00:30:11,319 --> 00:30:13,839
right things and do good things deserve that. Officer's people

699
00:30:13,839 --> 00:30:16,319
that abuse it like anything else. But that's where in

700
00:30:16,319 --> 00:30:19,039
this world it's like, Okay, well, sure, free will is

701
00:30:19,079 --> 00:30:20,799
it all it's cracked up to be when people are

702
00:30:20,839 --> 00:30:23,759
just savages and they're gonna destroy one another, where hey,

703
00:30:23,799 --> 00:30:26,440
they might have some control under them. But my idea

704
00:30:26,480 --> 00:30:29,119
is we could be a utopia again. We could all

705
00:30:29,119 --> 00:30:30,799
be happy. You're kind of living a lie. Right, It's

706
00:30:30,799 --> 00:30:32,799
almost like Matrix two. Right, you can live in the

707
00:30:32,839 --> 00:30:35,519
matrix and eat that amazing steak, but you might not

708
00:30:35,559 --> 00:30:37,039
taste it, but at least you're in a steak and

709
00:30:37,079 --> 00:30:38,680
you got a big house. So yeah, what do you

710
00:30:38,680 --> 00:30:40,680
think about's going on with this storyline with their dad,

711
00:30:40,720 --> 00:30:42,200
and obviously you talk about hurtaining about what do you

712
00:30:42,240 --> 00:30:45,079
think about the end result here of foreseeing all these people,

713
00:30:45,200 --> 00:30:48,440
those tribesmen. Obviously when we first saw him, think it

714
00:30:48,440 --> 00:30:50,319
was episode one, he was working on this tech to

715
00:30:50,359 --> 00:30:53,160
get it perfect. Seems like he's perfected whatever he was

716
00:30:53,200 --> 00:30:54,599
missing so well.

717
00:30:54,640 --> 00:30:57,079
Speaker 2: The thing that I was kind of confused with because

718
00:30:57,119 --> 00:31:01,279
he's what is perfect. The only difference is he stopped

719
00:31:01,279 --> 00:31:03,400
taking people from inside the vault, people that were not

720
00:31:03,480 --> 00:31:05,880
exposed to all the mumbo jumbo on the outside, and

721
00:31:05,920 --> 00:31:08,720
so he's just been taking people on the outside exclusively

722
00:31:08,759 --> 00:31:14,000
and hooking them up and it's working. So that that's interesting.

723
00:31:14,079 --> 00:31:15,720
And I'm not sure why. If it's like the radiation

724
00:31:15,920 --> 00:31:18,200
or something like that that's kind of acting as an inhibitor,

725
00:31:18,359 --> 00:31:20,920
or he did perfect the technology, I don't know, but yeah,

726
00:31:21,400 --> 00:31:23,640
he doesn't ever strike me as the guy that's kind

727
00:31:23,640 --> 00:31:26,200
of like and I feel like this season has been

728
00:31:26,240 --> 00:31:28,640
kind of undoing the character Hank, because I just see

729
00:31:28,680 --> 00:31:32,200
him as being like this weird side guy, like secretary

730
00:31:32,200 --> 00:31:35,039
guy to Barbara Howard. He's taken notes, he's just a weasel,

731
00:31:35,200 --> 00:31:38,079
yea like halfing a mump and around and stuff like that.

732
00:31:38,119 --> 00:31:40,079
I don't feel like he's the guy that would be

733
00:31:40,200 --> 00:31:41,039
running the show.

734
00:31:41,240 --> 00:31:44,839
Speaker 1: And he's though. That's the thing that these flashbacks, right,

735
00:31:44,839 --> 00:31:47,880
he does keep popping up, so he's always around. So

736
00:31:47,960 --> 00:31:50,799
I wonder if he in the time the explosions happen,

737
00:31:50,880 --> 00:31:53,160
if he learns and moves up the chain a little bit,

738
00:31:53,519 --> 00:31:54,880
or if he's just one of the last people that

739
00:31:54,920 --> 00:31:58,039
were around, or maybe he does something illegal. I get

740
00:31:58,079 --> 00:32:00,039
stuff for information he wasn't supposed to know because I

741
00:32:00,119 --> 00:32:02,799
agree with you where he doesn't seem like I guess

742
00:32:02,839 --> 00:32:06,119
I don't know where how oh right, because Richard House

743
00:32:06,119 --> 00:32:07,440
said it was like they had a month, right, I

744
00:32:07,480 --> 00:32:09,960
think last episode till the explosions because they said or

745
00:32:10,160 --> 00:32:12,240
he's like moved up a month, So we don't know

746
00:32:12,279 --> 00:32:16,640
exactly where it is. But we don't know the exact

747
00:32:16,680 --> 00:32:18,880
amount of time from Howard and his wife's conversation and

748
00:32:18,920 --> 00:32:21,119
the bombs going off. So I guess com macglaughlin could

749
00:32:21,680 --> 00:32:23,559
move up. But it seems that he is just as

750
00:32:24,240 --> 00:32:28,440
sidekick in the background. But again, he's always around though, so.

751
00:32:29,079 --> 00:32:32,960
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's true, that's true. But yeah, interesting to see

752
00:32:32,960 --> 00:32:34,480
how he plays out.

753
00:32:34,279 --> 00:32:35,759
Speaker 1: And what do you think's gonna happen? Because you think

754
00:32:35,799 --> 00:32:37,559
Lucy's gonna take him there. So if he takes him

755
00:32:37,960 --> 00:32:39,440
to the vault, what's gonna happen to all these people

756
00:32:39,440 --> 00:32:40,039
in the office.

757
00:32:41,240 --> 00:32:43,359
Speaker 2: I think they'll just keep working, right, I mean, they're

758
00:32:43,400 --> 00:32:44,160
just an automation.

759
00:32:44,759 --> 00:32:48,839
Speaker 1: So I think what's gonna happen in my opinion is

760
00:32:48,960 --> 00:32:52,880
he's doing this as a test. He's being very appreciative,

761
00:32:52,920 --> 00:32:55,240
he's being very understanding so he can try and win

762
00:32:55,319 --> 00:32:59,599
Lucy's trust back. And then because at the end, near

763
00:32:59,640 --> 00:33:01,599
the end of so when they're attacking people and says, oh,

764
00:33:01,720 --> 00:33:03,640
touch the button, I think he's gonna try to use

765
00:33:03,680 --> 00:33:05,680
that as like out of top before we're okay, things

766
00:33:05,720 --> 00:33:08,640
are bad out there, and yeah there's pre will choice,

767
00:33:08,680 --> 00:33:10,920
but look what we could give people. I think he's

768
00:33:10,960 --> 00:33:15,319
gonna try and convince her, and when she's still against that,

769
00:33:16,039 --> 00:33:18,079
it's gonna turn and she's good. He's gonna have those

770
00:33:18,079 --> 00:33:21,079
people turn on her. I don't killer, but I think

771
00:33:21,079 --> 00:33:23,519
he can even threaten to put that thing on the

772
00:33:23,519 --> 00:33:25,960
back of her next. So that's how I feel was

773
00:33:25,960 --> 00:33:28,039
gonna happen. He's gonna try to like kind of like, uh,

774
00:33:28,200 --> 00:33:30,559
Stockholm syndrome her a little bit, and when she says no,

775
00:33:30,759 --> 00:33:32,000
then he's gonna go for the attack.

776
00:33:32,519 --> 00:33:34,880
Speaker 2: I honestly thought maybe he already had it on her

777
00:33:35,160 --> 00:33:37,680
and her hair was covering it and we just couldn't see.

778
00:33:39,640 --> 00:33:41,440
Speaker 1: Oh, but I don't think that's happened.

779
00:33:41,880 --> 00:33:42,920
Speaker 2: You don't think that's happened.

780
00:33:43,279 --> 00:33:45,359
Speaker 1: No, not yet, I don't think so that'd be a

781
00:33:45,359 --> 00:33:48,640
big that'd be a big off screen, Like she hasn't

782
00:33:48,640 --> 00:33:50,640
done anything crazy yet, right to warrant that, Like I

783
00:33:50,680 --> 00:33:53,440
feel like maybe next week, if she does something that's uncharacteristic,

784
00:33:54,039 --> 00:33:55,720
I would return back to your theory. But she hasn't

785
00:33:55,720 --> 00:33:58,519
done anything yet. All it seems very in point with

786
00:33:58,720 --> 00:34:00,200
U Blue.

787
00:34:00,200 --> 00:34:01,720
Speaker 2: But I mean it can be on your neck, but

788
00:34:01,759 --> 00:34:05,559
you're not like activated, right, like you're not true doing it.

789
00:34:05,599 --> 00:34:08,079
So I meaning you could.

790
00:34:07,920 --> 00:34:09,760
Speaker 1: Do that where maybe she's gonna take him out the

791
00:34:09,800 --> 00:34:11,800
door and then he as the last minute, turns that

792
00:34:11,920 --> 00:34:15,119
on and then that's why she can't take him.

793
00:34:15,559 --> 00:34:18,400
Speaker 2: Something like that, or we'll get a bigger we'll get

794
00:34:18,400 --> 00:34:20,519
a bigger moment. We'll be in like Vault thirty three

795
00:34:20,559 --> 00:34:23,320
and like it'll be a climactic scene and then he'll

796
00:34:23,360 --> 00:34:26,039
be like Shazza and then controlling her.

797
00:34:27,000 --> 00:34:29,360
Speaker 1: I guess that's risky. What's gonna like, why is he

798
00:34:29,360 --> 00:34:31,039
getting control? Or he could just control her not to

799
00:34:31,079 --> 00:34:32,920
go anywhere? Well you could wall.

800
00:34:33,000 --> 00:34:35,480
Speaker 2: There's got to be a specific moment, a specific reason.

801
00:34:35,599 --> 00:34:37,239
Is going to be something that we just don't know yet.

802
00:34:37,280 --> 00:34:39,199
I feel like that's the that's the case.

803
00:34:39,320 --> 00:34:42,639
Speaker 1: Yeah, we don't know. So yeah, was there anything else

804
00:34:42,679 --> 00:34:45,079
from this episode and notes or any storylines or moments

805
00:34:45,119 --> 00:34:49,440
we haven't touched upon? Nope, Nope, that's it. So yeah,

806
00:34:49,440 --> 00:34:52,039
there you go. We are done fortnight. We'll be back

807
00:34:52,079 --> 00:34:55,480
next week, maybe with the Trinity, the Trifecta. Talk about

808
00:34:55,480 --> 00:34:57,599
the penultimate episode, I'm sure that one's gonna have a

809
00:34:57,679 --> 00:35:00,480
very good cliffhanger. We'll see, I guess probably what we're

810
00:35:00,480 --> 00:35:02,960
gonna have the Ghoul, Titus and his friend head over

811
00:35:03,000 --> 00:35:04,360
to Lucy and do a lot of stuff. I'm sure

812
00:35:04,400 --> 00:35:07,239
it's gonna be maybe a reveal or two. We haven't

813
00:35:07,239 --> 00:35:09,679
seen what happens with mister House yet, so uh yeah,

814
00:35:09,880 --> 00:35:11,559
we will be back next week, and I promise you

815
00:35:11,679 --> 00:35:12,480
it'll not be boring.

816
00:35:13,480 --> 00:35:13,679
Speaker 2: Bye,

