Speaker 1: Get ready for.
Speaker 2: Twenty eighth day of February twenty twenty five, allegedly according
Speaker 2: to that thing we call a calendar, and this is
Speaker 2: the o'celli effect, alive on a Frisday Friday night, for sure.
Speaker 2: How do I know that? Because I just looked at
Speaker 2: a calendar. How do you know that it's allegedly that
Speaker 2: date and day and all that good stuff. And it's
Speaker 2: about ten minutes after eight pm Eastern hearing what we
Speaker 2: used to call America. My co host is late to
Speaker 2: the mic, and the skype was late in sending me
Speaker 2: his message. I take a sip of my drink and
Speaker 2: tell you that I was waiting for him and trying
Speaker 2: to message him right around eight pm and didn't see
Speaker 2: any messages from him, didn't see anything, didn't see his
Speaker 2: b peatch video of the week in the chat room,
Speaker 2: none of that stuff that he usually does. By the way,
Speaker 2: if you hear this as a podcast, which very few
Speaker 2: of you do, but those of you the two, hey,
Speaker 2: it's available and it is live on Friday nights, usually
Speaker 2: a little bit after eight pm Eastern. We start and
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Speaker 2: pm Eastern. I have no idea if the Uncle Show
Speaker 2: will be on at eleven, But either way, I know
Speaker 2: it's going to be an interesting time with Aaron Franz
Speaker 2: at ten pm Eastern. Anyhow, all the way up until then,
Speaker 2: we're taking your calls, so by all means join me.
Speaker 2: I don't have my co host with me. I can
Speaker 2: talk about stuff and maybe play an audio clip if
Speaker 2: I feel like it, because it was kind of an
Speaker 2: eventful day in the land of audio clips and especially politics.
Speaker 2: Trump told Zelensky off in front of the whole world,
Speaker 2: you have none of the cards. You have none of
Speaker 2: the cards. We have all the cards, and you don't
Speaker 2: know what you're talking about, and you're disrespectful. And even
Speaker 2: though I have the year wrong about when you were
Speaker 2: invaded in Crimea, I know what year it was. It
Speaker 2: was a weird time in the White House. And one
Speaker 2: has to under forget about whether this is good or
Speaker 2: oh he was disrespecting America. Trump said, also, one has
Speaker 2: to wonder forget about respect or what he should say
Speaker 2: in front of I mean, he's the one who staged
Speaker 2: this whole thing. To put Zelensky in front of the camera.
Speaker 2: Is not a private meeting to start with. He did that,
Speaker 2: so that's on him, But the idea, I don't care about,
Speaker 2: none of that crap or any of the rest of
Speaker 2: the stage theater. One does wonder, however, what kind of
Speaker 2: an effect that might have on European allies who are
Speaker 2: looking for business as usual and definitely not getting it
Speaker 2: this way, pretty much spouting and belting out all of
Speaker 2: the Putin talking points. And don't forget, little boy, the
Speaker 2: only reason why your country still exists is because America
Speaker 2: gave you weapons. I tried to explain this to people
Speaker 2: that were not happy with the level of support I
Speaker 2: gave to the idea that I think Ukraine should be
Speaker 2: allowed to exist, you know, And I got fired for that,
Speaker 2: and I got trumble that, and I lost money for that,
Speaker 2: and I know that people on the ground are suffering there. Literally.
Speaker 2: I brought that guy Emir on the show to show
Speaker 2: everybody how bad it was, and I put him on
Speaker 2: that T and T radio abomination over there, which by
Speaker 2: the way, now exists under a whole new rebranding. And
Speaker 2: I wonder if they paid all their debts and if
Speaker 2: they've still got that money flowing in, you know, right
Speaker 2: around the time they were saying that people were getting
Speaker 2: money from Russian outlets, which they did. And interesting how
Speaker 2: a lot of Russian outlets were paying English speaking media
Speaker 2: people to do propaganda, because guess what, every government pays
Speaker 2: for some propaganda somewhere unless they have a fully captured
Speaker 2: state media to do it for them. And then when
Speaker 2: they have a fully captured state media that absolutely will
Speaker 2: not speak poorly about great leader or anything like that.
Speaker 2: Everything is wonderful here in our country. It doesn't matter
Speaker 2: if people are suffering and dying. That doesn't actually exist.
Speaker 2: We live forever here and we are better than every
Speaker 2: other nation on the planet. People repeat that stuff in
Speaker 2: other countries in their language, obviously not in English generally,
Speaker 2: because you know, in Britain you're just simply not allowed
Speaker 2: to criticize the royal family. And interesting what a day
Speaker 2: makes One day, we got President Trump receiving a letter
Speaker 2: from King Chorles, and I featured that on the podcast
Speaker 2: last night and tried to, you know, make a point
Speaker 2: that nobody caught so far. Anybody who's downloaded either one
Speaker 2: of the two podcasts from yesterday apparently did not understand
Speaker 2: the point of what I was doing last night at all,
Speaker 2: which is beautiful because that is the world in which
Speaker 2: I exist. Now, nobody understands what I'm trying to say
Speaker 2: or why. You know, they hear something, Oh, that sounds
Speaker 2: anti Trump, he must be a liberal. Then they hear
Speaker 2: stuff that sounds pro Trump, and they go, he must
Speaker 2: be one of those conservative guys. And I get much
Speaker 2: less of that pushback, because, again, at least on the
Speaker 2: alleged conservative end of things, people are organized and sort
Speaker 2: of unified, actually behave as though they have a coherent idea.
Speaker 2: The alleged left in this country has no left number one.
Speaker 2: There's nothing really leftist about it. It's just another corporatist,
Speaker 2: you know, greed filled foreign influence operation. And they're not
Speaker 2: even cohering about it. They stand in circular firing squads,
Speaker 2: constantly tearing each other down. Poor poor Al Franken, who
Speaker 2: might have made jokes and pictures about maybe feeling up
Speaker 2: a girl while she was sleeping when he was a comedian,
Speaker 2: before he was a congressperson or a senator or whatever.
Speaker 2: He had to resign. Nobody else does. Doesn't matter what
Speaker 2: their money making scheme is, horrible crap they do, no
Speaker 2: matter if they grab whoever by the whatever or you know,
Speaker 2: Joe Biden sniffing hair. I mean, we've got nothing but
Speaker 2: the cacistocracy to offer you, But you can choose a
Speaker 2: brand for a moment. America is just wonderful. No, Nope,
Speaker 2: I'm telling you you don't have any of the cards.
Speaker 2: If you have none of the cards, and you're disrespecting America,
Speaker 2: and you should say, thank you, dous what foreign country?
Speaker 2: You know? What? How come the Prime Minister of Israel
Speaker 2: is not thanking us every single day for the money
Speaker 2: we're sending him. I'm just asking, just asking a question.
Speaker 2: You're picking on Israel, You're anti Semitic. Maybe I'll use
Speaker 2: just the Trump voice from now on. I think that
Speaker 2: would make some people happy when they want to tear
Speaker 2: at me for being a liberal or a libtard or whatever.
Speaker 2: I'll just use the Trump voice. You were obviously too
Speaker 2: stupid to understand. And by the way, last year, weren't
Speaker 2: they trying to say that it was part of a
Speaker 2: Zionist conspiracy? Is Lynsky and all that. Meanwhile, again, my
Speaker 2: unique stupid perspective that is apparently completely beyond anybody's understanding
Speaker 2: is that two game show hosts met in ugly yellow
Speaker 2: chairs and one yelled at the other because he thought
Speaker 2: he could. I seriously hope that during this guy's administration
Speaker 2: there is no need for us to ask for any
Speaker 2: sort of foreign assistance from anybody. Cause, you know, even
Speaker 2: after nine to eleven, when we were scrambling because of
Speaker 2: the stupidity of our national security apparatus and all that
Speaker 2: good stuff, we did get foreign help there to try
Speaker 2: and secure things and make sure that there wasn't going
Speaker 2: to be a greater attack on us. Oh and the
Speaker 2: other thing that was funny about this Zelenski meeting. The
Speaker 2: other bullet point, I don't even know what they're pointing
Speaker 2: out on the news because I can't watch the analysis
Speaker 2: any longer. I saw hyperbolic, immediate yelling about how dare
Speaker 2: anybody criticize Trump for what he just said. He's saying
Speaker 2: all the right things. Okay, I guess if you feel
Speaker 2: that way, And then other idiots thinking that this is
Speaker 2: supposed to be taken seriously. Oh my god, I could
Speaker 2: believe that he just violated protocol. Look, I'm not ready
Speaker 2: to bow to a king. And I thought we fought
Speaker 2: a war over that, you know, just say, and one
Speaker 2: of those ones that none of my parents or grandparents
Speaker 2: served in because we weren't here in this country just yet,
Speaker 2: but paid no attention to the facts. Facts don't matter anyway.
Speaker 2: It is what it is. I want to hear from
Speaker 2: you guys tonight and get your point of view. And
Speaker 2: you don't got to talk to me about Trump. We
Speaker 2: could talk about anything. You want to go over to
Speaker 2: the latest TV series that you've been watching, tell me
Speaker 2: about it. I need some new entertainment because these clowns
Speaker 2: in Washington are not entertaining yet. That entertainment is going
Speaker 2: to begin when people realize what they've just done. Oh
Speaker 2: the other Zelensky point before I give out the numbers,
Speaker 2: was Zelenski trying to say, you know, you're not feeling
Speaker 2: the effects of anything in Europe right now because you're
Speaker 2: protected by your ocean. Now he's referencing something that Trump
Speaker 2: has said many times, but we have an ocean in between.
Speaker 2: It doesn't matter to us. What goes on in Europe
Speaker 2: is irrelevant to us. Not all for the global control.
Speaker 2: But you got to recognize we are all on the
Speaker 2: same planet. And I'm telling you this planet got a
Speaker 2: lot smaller with mass transportation and communication. But again, reality
Speaker 2: is not meant for everybody who's unreal. The thing is
Speaker 2: he's saying, look, man, you're gonna feel some kind of
Speaker 2: effect from this, one way or another. This will influence events.
Speaker 2: And he never got to finish it because Trump was like,
Speaker 2: you're very disrespectful. You have no right to tell us
Speaker 2: what we're gonna feel in the United States. I mean,
Speaker 2: it was the weirdest thing. If you break down that interaction,
Speaker 2: it was very strange. And why he put that. Remember this,
Speaker 2: it's Trump and Trump's people who put this on display.
Speaker 2: They chose to have that meeting, which is in the
Speaker 2: you know, broadcast setup. They chose who was gonna sit
Speaker 2: around on the couches surrounding the ugly yellow chairs, and
Speaker 2: they set it up just like they wanted to show
Speaker 2: with all gravitas. The fact that the King said, nice letter.
Speaker 2: I mean, I was sitting there wondering with Trump fall
Speaker 2: in love again with the new letters from the King Charles.
Speaker 2: I tell you, if this is my selection for who
Speaker 2: I can fall in love with and who's going to
Speaker 2: write letters to me, I don't know if I might
Speaker 2: not have to just castrate myself because I'm not falling
Speaker 2: in love with either. King Charles with the weird ears,
Speaker 2: the inbreeding and the gogothin whatever the hell German blood
Speaker 2: he's got going on there, and maybe they are reptiles.
Speaker 2: I don't know, David Ike, go ask him. But the
Speaker 2: point is between that and that weird Korean fire hydrant
Speaker 2: called Kim Jong un, who's only ruling that country because
Speaker 2: his dead grandfather is actually still the head of that country.
Speaker 2: Look it up if you don't believe me, you know,
Speaker 2: in weirdness and competing with his strange sister and god
Speaker 2: knows what, and was about ready to really get serious
Speaker 2: with us with weapons when they put out a movie
Speaker 2: about people interviewing him and then assassinating him as a comedy.
Speaker 2: If you forgot about the Sony hacked from what was
Speaker 2: that ten years ago? Now ten twelve years ago? Holy crap,
Speaker 2: it's been a while. But he was upset about that
Speaker 2: and literally like making threats openly about I need to
Speaker 2: like do something. And then Sony got hacked by allegedly
Speaker 2: Korean hackers, right, didn't They get hacked? And then a
Speaker 2: bunch of their movies came out and a whole bunch
Speaker 2: of stuff spilled out on the internet, and people found
Speaker 2: out how badly they were getting screwed in their show
Speaker 2: biz contracts. A whole bunch of mess happened out of that.
Speaker 2: But what was anything politically significant? And did we nearly
Speaker 2: go to war? Well, you know how the best functioning,
Speaker 2: you know, intelligence community and military functions is when you
Speaker 2: don't know what the circumstance is, because all is perfectly
Speaker 2: quiet based on that military. But according to Trump, we're
Speaker 2: protected by a nocean, and we have no right to
Speaker 2: tell anybody in America if you're from somewhere else, especially you,
Speaker 2: because you're at war and you'd be out of there
Speaker 2: in three days without us. Obama gave you blankets. Now
Speaker 2: here's the illogic of that statement, just on the face
Speaker 2: of it. If I'm trusting everything Trump said, If Obama
Speaker 2: only gave him blankets and Biden gave him next to nothing,
Speaker 2: how did he survive during those two time periods his country?
Speaker 2: Really because he only got in there. And what around
Speaker 2: the same time Trump did? Right what year was it
Speaker 2: that he was playing the piano with his penis on
Speaker 2: Ukrainian TV? I forget, but I did watch that series
Speaker 2: translated that he did, that TV series about him becoming
Speaker 2: president and then lo and behold he became president. Look, Ukraine,
Speaker 2: I feel for the people that are suffering. I really do.
Speaker 2: And I'm not allowed to even talk about that because
Speaker 2: then it makes me an establishment, gaykeeping liberal piece of garbage.
Speaker 2: And I know, I know, I'm supposed to only side
Speaker 2: with Putin. I don't know when that became a conservative
Speaker 2: talking point, but it is. Anyway, Trump is doing that,
Speaker 2: literally belting out stuff, and he's talking about cards. You
Speaker 2: don't have any of the cards. We have all the cards.
Speaker 2: You'd have cards if you wanted to come to the
Speaker 2: table and you submitted to Putin's demands, you'd have cards
Speaker 2: and we'd be there with you. And the Ukrainian president
Speaker 2: literally was trying to mister president, mister president, Look, I'm
Speaker 2: not playing cards. I'm at war. He tried to say that.
Speaker 2: I don't know if they're going to show you that
Speaker 2: on the close captions, but I heard him say it
Speaker 2: in English pretty clearly. Anyway, I'm not saying that this
Speaker 2: is a good thing or a bad thing, but I'm
Speaker 2: telling you right now is certainly different. I mean, all
Speaker 2: I can think of. And by the way, is supposedly
Speaker 2: they dumped out the Epstein files today, right, did anybody
Speaker 2: pay attention to that. Excuse me, I didn't do that
Speaker 2: that horrible hocking up noise on purpose. That's just something
Speaker 2: that happens to me now and then. But Pam Bondi
Speaker 2: allegedly was gonna drop a whole slew of a treasured
Speaker 2: of information on epstein is Victims Rape Island everything and
Speaker 2: reveal all the names. And I'm still searching around for it.
Speaker 2: I don't see the big drop. I mean, I saw
Speaker 2: one article describe it as the big flop, but I'm
Speaker 2: not going on that article. I want to see the stuff.
Speaker 2: Where's it at? You guys have it, I mean, drop
Speaker 2: it in the chatroom at O'Kelly dot com. Do it
Speaker 2: and call in. Let me know where you're at. Please
Speaker 2: let me know where you're at here on O'Kelly dot com.
Speaker 2: Today as I speak, and you know what, I see
Speaker 2: a caller and I'm bringing them on. I have no idea.
Speaker 2: It looks like they're calling from I guess that's Florida. Okay,
Speaker 2: So I have that caller and I got another one
Speaker 2: on the line, but I want to go to this
Speaker 2: Florida caller and they're first in line anyway, But by
Speaker 2: all means, call in three one nine, five two seven
Speaker 2: five zero one six. That is the number to call in.
Speaker 2: I'm sure my coast will join me as soon as
Speaker 2: he can get his butt home because he's on the road.
Speaker 2: From what I understand now, Skype delayed then, Johnny, but
Speaker 2: you can join me in the meantime and talk to
Speaker 2: me without bpede here if you like. Three one nine
Speaker 2: five two seven five zero one six. Now let's go
Speaker 2: to this caller from Florida. You're live and drop anything
Speaker 2: on the table and we'll discuss it. Man, what's up? Check?
Speaker 3: How you doing tonight?
Speaker 4: Man?
Speaker 2: I'm doing okay. Wait, that voice sounds familiar.
Speaker 5: It is.
Speaker 3: It's been a little while.
Speaker 2: It's been quite a while, I.
Speaker 4: Think it is.
Speaker 3: I've been busy. It's probably I've been It's been my
Speaker 3: intention to call it, but actually it probably been a
Speaker 3: couple months. But yeah, this is Chris.
Speaker 2: Yeah I thought so, Chris from Florida. Love hearing from you.
Speaker 2: How is the open air in saying asylum? That is Florida,
Speaker 2: my friend. I mean, I'm always gonna call it that
Speaker 2: because no matter what wacky stuff happens there. But what's
Speaker 2: on your mind tonight?
Speaker 4: Man?
Speaker 2: Anything you want to throw on the table. It's all yours.
Speaker 3: Well to me, or you know that the whole you know,
Speaker 3: I'd watched see the meeting with Zelenski, you know, a
Speaker 3: little while ago, you know, at least parts of it,
Speaker 3: and you know, after I'd got home this evening and
Speaker 3: this the health the whole thing seems scripted to me. Okay,
Speaker 3: I just can't can't help get around that. Nothing seems
Speaker 3: relevant the situation. It seems like a shell being put
Speaker 3: on for us.
Speaker 2: Okay, Now I don't listen, I don't disagree with you,
Speaker 2: and it is a staged event anyway, even if even
Speaker 2: if you don't go you know, tinfoil hat, we all
Speaker 2: know this is a stage. Oh no, no, cool, you
Speaker 2: can do that. But I'm saying, even without the tinfoil hat,
Speaker 2: you got to know it's a staged event. They set
Speaker 2: these things up so they got the fireplace in the background,
Speaker 2: and you know, they got there both flanked by important
Speaker 2: people that have something to say, might jump in. Right,
Speaker 2: It's perfectly staged and this is the way of doing
Speaker 2: business in the White House. And that's all cool, But
Speaker 2: to say that it's scripted is another level. Now I'm curious,
Speaker 2: like your first was it your immediate impression this is
Speaker 2: scripted or did you have to let it roll around
Speaker 2: a little bit and say this is a script and
Speaker 2: what do you think of the script.
Speaker 3: That's a pretty lame step, to my opinion, and I
Speaker 3: saw it immediately. I think Trump, out of between the
Speaker 3: three of them, was the best actor.
Speaker 2: Yeah. Jd.
Speaker 3: Vance was a little lacking and his performance Zulensky terrible. Yeah,
Speaker 3: he should sick with the penises? What's you a penis piano?
Speaker 3: Which I believe that was twenty sixteen when that aired?
Speaker 2: What was that twenty sixteen? Think okay, maybe it was
Speaker 2: totally okay, cool, No, that was on some game show
Speaker 2: that wasn't even his main TV show, right, but he
Speaker 2: was a stand up comedian and a reality show host.
Speaker 2: As I understood it, which is, you know, these guys
Speaker 2: should have common beyond I'm thinking. But yeah, jd. Vance
Speaker 2: was not impressive in this discussion where he's like and
Speaker 2: he's the one I think who brought up initially the
Speaker 2: whole year showing disrespect to the cunt, which I didn't
Speaker 2: quite understand, like there was disrespect because he's not saying
Speaker 2: thank you. I mean, is that where we're at? Now
Speaker 2: with this, you know you need to thank us one
Speaker 2: way or another, because we're giving you a It's not
Speaker 2: a strategic consideration for us. We're not doing it out
Speaker 2: of the kindness of our hearts. We're certainly not doing
Speaker 2: it because it might be advantageous for us to have
Speaker 2: a country that might be grateful to us in some
Speaker 2: way in that position, or to give us over the
Speaker 2: rare elements that they're saying. See, that's the new thing,
Speaker 2: right is that Trump's like, look, we're gonna strip my
Speaker 2: Ukraine whatever's left of it anyway, because he's already made
Speaker 2: it a point that most of the buildings are knocked down,
Speaker 2: the infrastructure is now Swiss cheese, and the people have
Speaker 2: been decimated one way or another, either militarily directly or
Speaker 2: a lot of guys left the country. Remember, So, I mean,
Speaker 2: you got a place that's been beat on now for
Speaker 2: nearly is it three years? Has been three years of.
Speaker 3: Ukraine and Chris, oh, it's been somewhere nearly three years, right,
Speaker 3: It's been too long to remember at this.
Speaker 2: Point, right, And this tells you there we go. This
Speaker 2: tells you that that is a long standing by the way,
Speaker 2: I got this loose wire over here for some reason.
Speaker 2: I've had to hit it a few times just to
Speaker 2: get it back on track, and I'm gonna have to
Speaker 2: replace it at some point. But anyway, I've also got
Speaker 2: a dead keyboard. So don't don't ask me to type
Speaker 2: back to you guys. Not you, Chris. I'm just letting
Speaker 2: you guys know out there. I'm not gonna be in
Speaker 2: the chat that heavily here tonight anyway. But my point is,
Speaker 2: this is a rough situation. This guy's at war. And
Speaker 2: how many times did Trump say, you don't have any cards?
Speaker 2: We have both the cards. You'd have cards, You could
Speaker 2: come to the table, you could have cards if you
Speaker 2: just agreed with us. And I'm watching this and I'm going, yeah,
Speaker 2: I believe this is Trump thinking off the I don't
Speaker 2: think Trump's reading the script, Chris. I got a little
Speaker 2: problem there. That sounds like his normal flow, his normal
Speaker 2: like intellectual flow. It does seem natural for him. I
Speaker 2: gotta say, what do you think of that?
Speaker 3: I'm trying to keep it somewhat pg Uh. You know,
Speaker 3: I don't know what direction to take it. I mean,
Speaker 3: like I said, in my mind automatically wants to go
Speaker 3: to this conspiracy direction.
Speaker 2: Okay, you know, well, like to me, it's.
Speaker 3: Just this whole situation. I'm in a lot of the
Speaker 3: situations that we have found ourselves in seem highly fabricated.
Speaker 2: Well, everybody always wants to know. But see, when you
Speaker 2: talk about a conspiracy, everybody always wants to know the motives.
Speaker 2: So I got to ask you, since you're saying, you know,
Speaker 2: you see conspiracy, I'm seeing Trump acting naturally, although it
Speaker 2: could be other people have a script and somebody just
Speaker 2: lets Trump riff and they know what they're gonna get,
Speaker 2: so they know what they're going to work with. Okay,
Speaker 2: when he starts doing this, now you have this thing
Speaker 2: to read off, you know. Uh, let's just say that
Speaker 2: both of us are somewhat correct about this observation. Right,
Speaker 2: let me ask what would be the point of putting
Speaker 2: on that play today? And oh, by the way, did
Speaker 2: you catch any of the Epstein stuff? Because I can't
Speaker 2: seem to find these publicly released files they said they
Speaker 2: were going to release in you know, I see nothing
Speaker 2: new coming out, although the Justice Department had an announcement
Speaker 2: about it. Maybe I should read off the website later
Speaker 2: on when things slow down. But just curious, I mean,
Speaker 2: what you what are your thoughts as to the motive here?
Speaker 2: Why would they be scripting this? Is it to set
Speaker 2: us up for I don't know, a new wave of
Speaker 2: support for Ukraine or are because it looks to me
Speaker 2: like the Republicans are going to drop away from it.
Speaker 2: That's going to be the end of it. We're going
Speaker 2: to leave it all up to Europe. I mean, we're
Speaker 2: gonna is the strategy to let Europe fall into chaos?
Speaker 2: What do you think, Chris?
Speaker 3: You know, I really wish I could give you an
Speaker 3: answer for that. It's really hard to tell. You know,
Speaker 3: I don't know how much you how much you dive
Speaker 3: into the conspiracy theories. You know, like let's they say, like,
Speaker 3: you know, you had like Agenda twenty five. You know,
Speaker 3: you also have Agenda twenty thirty, which I believe that
Speaker 3: Agenda twenty thirty that's still you know, we're still on
Speaker 3: the shouldn't be on the trajectory towards a big population
Speaker 3: event here in the United States. Now, I'm not hell
Speaker 3: being you know, I'm not set on that, but I
Speaker 3: do think that you know, in other parts of the
Speaker 3: Agenda twenty thirty, you know, it's where basically we're going
Speaker 3: to be eshered into it, you know, technological Golden age
Speaker 3: if you want. All right, Oh yeah, Elon seems to
Speaker 3: play a perfect role in that. You can't be eating
Speaker 3: off topic.
Speaker 2: No, no, no problem. But you look, you're speaking directly
Speaker 2: to something I talked about last night and I've been
Speaker 2: trying to express and nobody wants to hear it. And
Speaker 2: that is the great rise of the technocracy with little resistance.
Speaker 2: Nobody cares about the fact that, yeah, we're letting the
Speaker 2: tech people take over every thing looks like and they
Speaker 2: want to run a lot of things via AI. So
Speaker 2: you know you're worried about robotics taking your jobs, AI
Speaker 2: is going to take a whole lot more.
Speaker 3: And uh, well that's where all these federal jobs are going.
Speaker 3: I'm sorry for cutting off, but they're going to all
Speaker 3: these jobs that are supposedly being you know, eliminated from
Speaker 3: the federal workforce. I mean, they're going to be supplemented
Speaker 3: by a workforce.
Speaker 2: Yeah, they're going to just try and figure out which
Speaker 2: jobs chat GPT can do for them and that'll be
Speaker 2: the end of it. And who knows, maybe they'll use
Speaker 2: deep seek. That's the new Chinese AI, right actually, deep
Speaker 2: Seek is fully accessible, works pretty well. I've used it
Speaker 2: a lot of other people, you know, like we're like, oh, no,
Speaker 2: don't touch that thing. It's going to be a Chinese
Speaker 2: spy tool. And I'm like, if you don't already have
Speaker 2: Chinese spy tools on your Chinese manufacturer electronics already, I
Speaker 2: don't know what to tell you. If you have electronics,
Speaker 2: you're being spied on by your electronics.
Speaker 3: I mean, anybody you know says anything about the deep
Speaker 3: sake they just bought too far into the praftaganda they
Speaker 3: sell the road I said, they've already become They've already
Speaker 3: been victimized, you know, yes, all their personal debt has
Speaker 3: been seized and tracked.
Speaker 2: Well, nonetheless, I'm not comfortable, No, I'm sorry, but nonetheless
Speaker 2: I'm still not entirely comfortable with letting Elon Musk have it.
Speaker 2: This guy, you know, he's a mess. And oh, by
Speaker 2: the way, they shut down a whole bunch of investigations
Speaker 2: from the SEC about stocks and you know, fraud and
Speaker 2: maybe trading with Chinese companies and all this stuff. And
Speaker 2: the Chinese guy who do you know, sent money. Of
Speaker 2: course they will talk about that with Biden, but nobody
Speaker 2: wants to talk about Trump literally shutting down the investigations
Speaker 2: that we're starting to launch. You know that might they well,
Speaker 2: it's a funny thing about all the all the watch
Speaker 2: dogs are gone, the igs are gone. Everybody says, Okay,
Speaker 2: we don't need the bureaucracy, but the guardrails are gone
Speaker 2: now from all these guys doing whatever the hell they want,
Speaker 2: and everybody's comfortable with this. Elon Musk is the guy
Speaker 2: you would pick to be your leader because at this point,
Speaker 2: the guy has a lot of power and nobody, nobody
Speaker 2: even pretends to have elected him.
Speaker 3: You know what I mean, Yeah, I understand.
Speaker 2: It's uh, yeah, it's power. Remember what they used to
Speaker 2: call that when we played tag. If somebody touched the base,
Speaker 2: and you touch the guy who was touching the base,
Speaker 2: they would say, oh, that's electricity. It's like, you know,
Speaker 2: Elon got power via the electricity from Trump. Trump touched him,
Speaker 2: and now he is blessed with the power to do
Speaker 2: stuff and nobody can sort it out. Even in court.
Speaker 2: The Trump administration is saying he doesn't have the power
Speaker 2: to do anything, and yet he's out there going up,
Speaker 2: gonna take my chainsaw to this next I'm confused by this,
Speaker 2: and confused by all of the people that I thought
Speaker 2: were at least skeptical about letting, you know, the computer
Speaker 2: technology take over for everything. Just going now, it's okay. Now,
Speaker 2: how are they going to feel? Though? If a new
Speaker 2: administration comes in and it doesn't happen to be MAGA
Speaker 2: and they want the technocracy to take over, well, then
Speaker 2: it'll be a problem and we'll be being taken over
Speaker 2: by China, right, I mean, I don't know.
Speaker 3: You tell me, yeah, I agree with you. I think
Speaker 3: that we're you know, we're setting ourselves up as that
Speaker 3: where you know, this has been my fear all along,
Speaker 3: you know, even though I'll tell you honestly upfront, and
Speaker 3: I voted for the guy, you know, because I wanted
Speaker 3: the wheel thrown into the you know, the cog, you
Speaker 3: know what I mean, I got you, But uh, I mean,
Speaker 3: I mean, ultimately me, I know, I'm a little bit
Speaker 3: more libertarian. I would just like to see the ship
Speaker 3: burn down.
Speaker 2: Listen, I understand, burn the ship down.
Speaker 3: And because that's the only that's the only way around this.
Speaker 3: You know, we have to boss the entire system.
Speaker 2: Ultimately, we can keep.
Speaker 3: Pretending we're going to vote our way into you know,
Speaker 3: better better, so in a situation solution, but ultimately, no,
Speaker 3: that's not gonna happen.
Speaker 2: Well, I see it as a win win. No, I
Speaker 2: see it as a win win. Also. I'm actually this
Speaker 2: is the thing again. Nobody lets me express ever, but
Speaker 2: I'm glad you brought it up. Here's the thing. I
Speaker 2: think that it's a win win because either he radically
Speaker 2: shakes things up so much that they start to function differently,
Speaker 2: which should be better, or or ready for this, he
Speaker 2: wrecks everything. And if he wrecks everything, it's going to
Speaker 2: be a little more painful than people think. But at
Speaker 2: the same time, it'll get rid of a whole lot
Speaker 2: of garbage. I don't know. You know, I'm usually not
Speaker 2: the guy who says burned down the house when it's
Speaker 2: over infested with mice. But here we are, you know,
Speaker 2: Is it such a bad thing if that's the point? Right? Oh, Jimmy,
Speaker 2: Jimmy James was on the line. I think he dropped off.
Speaker 2: I was just about to go to him, but I'm sorry, Jimmy.
Speaker 2: If you want to call back in, please do cause
Speaker 2: I want to hear from you. You tell me what's
Speaker 2: going on. I want to hear from everybody. But back
Speaker 2: to the staged event, just real quick, if you don't mind,
Speaker 2: give me some more of your thoughts, like what else
Speaker 2: was going on there? Because they would never stage something
Speaker 2: like this for a singular purpose. So what do you
Speaker 2: think was going on there? I mean Zolensky, I don't know.
Speaker 2: He's a pretty good actor in that he did look
Speaker 2: surprised that this was happening, So I don't know if
Speaker 2: he was in on the staff meetings beforehand? What do
Speaker 2: you think.
Speaker 6: I mean?
Speaker 3: Or just what skepticizing here? Essentially? Isn't it's a correct
Speaker 3: word to use.
Speaker 2: Well, we are we are theorizing, we.
Speaker 7: Are utter one, we're theorizing.
Speaker 2: What is the There is a good better term for
Speaker 2: spitballing mentally here, like what's going on here? What are
Speaker 2: we doing? We are Ah, well, it's beyond theorizing. It's
Speaker 2: kind of like, uh, we are uh speculating, that's the word.
Speaker 2: We're speculating, and we're we're speculating about different theories here
Speaker 2: as to what the true meaning of that meeting was
Speaker 2: and what it was. And again, you anybody can call
Speaker 2: in three one nine, five, two seven, five zero one
Speaker 2: six I will try to get to the next caller
Speaker 2: who pops up on the line a little quicker. I
Speaker 2: think Jimmy got tired of waiting because we're going back
Speaker 2: and forth here a bit. So I'm sorry about that.
Speaker 2: But you know, again, when I don't have my co
Speaker 2: host with me, I get a little a little long
Speaker 2: in the wind here. Uh. And hopefully b Petele joined
Speaker 2: me shortly. I'm certain that he'll have something different to
Speaker 2: say here.
Speaker 3: But anyway, if Jimmy pops beckon and you need to
Speaker 3: take them still free, you know, yeah.
Speaker 2: Yeah, anybody, anybody who calls in, I'll take you next.
Speaker 2: Hey man, is this live? Okay, I'm being asked in
Speaker 2: chat if this is live? And indeed you asked me
Speaker 2: that at eight thirty seven. Sorry, it took me a
Speaker 2: few minutes to go look at the chat, but yes, yeah,
Speaker 2: I was chill and we are live on a Friday,
Speaker 2: and it is.
Speaker 3: That was asking if you were live.
Speaker 2: No problem, but I see another Skype question. Uh. And
Speaker 2: the thing is I'm being asked again if I'm live. Yes,
Speaker 2: I am live, and it is. Yeah, it's eight forty
Speaker 2: something and it's the twenty eighth of February, as I speak,
Speaker 2: so later on when I put this on for replays,
Speaker 2: it won't be live, but it is right now. Okay,
Speaker 2: wrap your minds around that one Mandela effect all day
Speaker 2: if you like. But yeah, we're live at the moment,
Speaker 2: and we're talking about the Zelensky thing from earlier. And
Speaker 2: this is Chris from Florida on the line, and anybody
Speaker 2: can join me at three one nine five two seven
Speaker 2: five zero one six, So Chris, go ahead and speak
Speaker 2: anything you want to speak on this gud.
Speaker 3: I didn't want to say uh, because I tried to
Speaker 3: listen to you. I tried tuning on at Shelli dot
Speaker 3: com and I believe it was an episode from Hell
Speaker 3: or high Water was currently playing when I, you know,
Speaker 3: and I decide to just call in, just be part
Speaker 3: of the show. I was just trying to listen and
Speaker 3: see what the top is that were being discussed, and.
Speaker 2: Gotchas well, let's let's go to a hip.
Speaker 3: That's probably why you're getting questions.
Speaker 2: Like that, No problem. Yeah it does still say on
Speaker 2: the player Hell and high Water eleven or something like that,
Speaker 2: but let's hit play on there and see if it
Speaker 2: kicks me back here.
Speaker 3: You're getting questions like that no problem.
Speaker 2: Yeah it does still say on the player hell and
Speaker 2: high Water eleven or something like that. But let's hit
Speaker 2: play on there and see if it can see that
Speaker 2: it just replayed what I just said.
Speaker 3: You hate the sound of your own voice to.
Speaker 2: Chuck, Absolutely, I do. That's why I can't listen to
Speaker 2: it anyway. I'm just telling you guys, we are live
Speaker 2: at the moment. Whether the player the player's text is
Speaker 2: not updating, but we are live. So yeah, there it is.
Speaker 2: I don't know why the two. I gotta fix that,
Speaker 2: you see, that's my coding. I gotta I gotta go
Speaker 2: into the code. God help us all uh and try
Speaker 2: and make it work anyway. Sorry, man, go go right
Speaker 2: ahead back to what you were saying. And that's that's
Speaker 2: why I'm getting messages about whether I'm live or not. Yes, Chris,
Speaker 2: we are live also, uh, just so you know, go ahead, Uh.
Speaker 3: But I don't know you take the lead check. I mean,
Speaker 3: I think I've Lisa. That was the main thing I
Speaker 3: wanted to get across, and just tell us how scripted
Speaker 3: that that discussion was between the trio.
Speaker 2: Fair enough. You know what I might do is put
Speaker 2: you on hold, man, and you chill out there in Florida.
Speaker 2: You probably need to take a breather from alligators, in
Speaker 2: vending machines and everything else. But anybody wants to call
Speaker 2: in three one nine five two seven five zero one six,
Speaker 2: that is the number to join us live. And what
Speaker 2: I'm gonna do here is maybe go get let's go
Speaker 2: get some of this discussion from earlier today between Zelensky
Speaker 2: and Trump and take a listen to it while I
Speaker 2: wait for my coach to join me or for anybody
Speaker 2: else to join in on the phone lines. Please do that.
Speaker 2: Three one nine five two seven five zero one. I
Speaker 2: saw Jimmy James. He might hung up. I met him,
Speaker 2: made him mad, or maybe he got tired of waiting,
Speaker 2: or a pizza was delivered, who knows. But in the meantime, yeah,
Speaker 2: let's go ahead and paste and go and go over
Speaker 2: to YouTube where I had a link to the live
Speaker 2: discussion over there. Whoops, No, that's not the right live discussion.
Speaker 2: Oh there it is, now I have the right link.
Speaker 2: Hang on, I'll go there. It went to a TV
Speaker 2: show I was watching earlier, because I saved that link
Speaker 2: as well. Mistakes on live radio, what a shocker, let's
Speaker 2: see now. Oh well, First of all, we're gonna have
Speaker 2: to get over the commercial, So let me play this,
Speaker 2: get through the commercial, and then I will fast forward
Speaker 2: to some of the discussion between Ukrainian President Zelensky and
Speaker 2: American President Donald Trump in the Oval Office. And let's
Speaker 2: hear from it the way it was as it happened. Right,
Speaker 2: Let's see what we got here. Oh, here's where Van's broken.
Speaker 8: In bringing people into your military ap brand, do you
Speaker 8: think of the suspect hooldons to come to the Oval
Speaker 8: Office of the United States of America and attack the
Speaker 8: thestration that is trying to try to prevent the destruction
Speaker 8: of your country.
Speaker 5: A lot of questions, let's start from the biginn sure.
Speaker 2: Of hillstor Now Zelenski is trying to answer a whole
Speaker 2: bunch of questions. You're disrespectful, You're problems bringing your people
Speaker 2: into your military this and that. How dare you attack
Speaker 2: the administration or criticize anything Donald Trump said? And Zelenski's
Speaker 2: now responding or trying to or he will try to.
Speaker 2: And this is part of what I was talking about before. Anyway,
Speaker 2: here we go.
Speaker 9: Well, during the war, everybody has problems, even you, but
Speaker 9: you have nice ocean and don't feel now, but you
Speaker 9: will feel it in the fusion.
Speaker 8: Less.
Speaker 3: You don't know that.
Speaker 6: I'm bless you. I'm blessed. You're not.
Speaker 10: Don't tell us what we're going to feel. We're trying
Speaker 10: to solve a problem. Don't tell us what we're going
Speaker 10: to feel.
Speaker 11: I'm not telling you because you're in no position to
Speaker 11: dictate that.
Speaker 10: You're in no position to dictate what we're going to feel.
Speaker 6: We're gonna feel very good, feel influenced. We're gonna feel
Speaker 6: very good and very strong, will feel influenced. You're right now,
Speaker 6: not in a very good position. You've allowed you to
Speaker 6: be in a very bad.
Speaker 5: Position that he's happened to be right about the very
Speaker 5: beginning of the war.
Speaker 11: Not in a good position. You don't have the cards
Speaker 11: right now with us. You start having cards right now.
Speaker 6: You explain my spread.
Speaker 11: You're gambling with the lives and millions of people.
Speaker 6: You see, you're gambling with world War three. You're gambling
Speaker 6: with world War three.
Speaker 11: And what you're doing is very disrespectful to the country.
Speaker 6: This country that's.
Speaker 11: Back to you far more than a lot of people
Speaker 11: said they should have.
Speaker 8: Have you said thank you once that no in this
Speaker 8: retirement you said you went to Pennsylvania and campaigned for
Speaker 8: the opposition in October. Offer some words of appreciation for
Speaker 8: the United States of America and the president who's trying
Speaker 8: to save your country.
Speaker 9: Please, you're seeing that if you will speak very loudly
Speaker 9: about the war.
Speaker 6: He's not speaking loudly. He's not speaking loudly. Country is
Speaker 6: in big trouble.
Speaker 11: No, no, can't a lot of talking. Your country is in
Speaker 11: big trouble. I know you're not winning. You're not winning this.
Speaker 11: You have a damn good chance of winning out. Okay,
Speaker 11: because of.
Speaker 5: The president, we are staying Nawa country, staying strong. From
Speaker 5: the very beginning of the war, we've been alone and
Speaker 5: we are samful.
Speaker 6: I said, thanks, you haven't been giving it.
Speaker 11: He gave you, through this stupid president, three hundred and
Speaker 11: fifty billion dollars. We gave you military equipment. You and
Speaker 11: you met have brave but they had to use our
Speaker 11: military one of the best.
Speaker 6: If you didn't have our.
Speaker 11: Military equipment, you didn't have our military equipment, this war
Speaker 11: would have been over in two weeks.
Speaker 12: In three days, I heard it from Putin in three days.
Speaker 6: This is how Veggie less in two weeks. Of course, yeah,
Speaker 6: it's gonna be a very hard thing to do business
Speaker 6: like this. I'm gonna tell you say thank you.
Speaker 5: I said it there except for American except that there are.
Speaker 8: Disagreements, and let's go litigate those disagreements rather than trying
Speaker 8: to out of the American media when you're wrong.
Speaker 11: We knew that you're wrong, but you see, I think
Speaker 11: it's good for the American people to see what's going
Speaker 11: on there.
Speaker 6: For me, I think it's very important. That's why I
Speaker 6: kept this going so long. You have to be thankful.
Speaker 6: You don't have the cards. You're buried there, your people.
Speaker 11: That die tell you you're running low on soldiers. Listen,
Speaker 11: you're running slow on soldiers. It would be a damn goodness.
Speaker 11: And then then you tell.
Speaker 6: Us I don't want to cease fire. I don't want
Speaker 6: to cease fire. I want to go and I wanted this.
Speaker 10: Look, if you could get a ceasefire right now, I
Speaker 10: tell you you take it. So the bullets stopped flying,
Speaker 10: and your men stuff courting kills.
Speaker 6: Post we want just stole the war. But they're saying
Speaker 6: you don't want to see you.
Speaker 11: I want to see guarantee because you get a ceasefire
Speaker 11: faster than any great.
Speaker 6: Color people of all. It's just spiral what they think.
Speaker 6: There wasn't me.
Speaker 12: That wasn't with me.
Speaker 11: That was with a guy named Biden, who is not
Speaker 11: a smart person.
Speaker 6: That was that was with ores, you'll excuse me.
Speaker 11: That was with Obama, who gave you a sheet and
Speaker 11: I gave you javelins. Yes, I gave you the javelins
Speaker 11: to take out all those tanks.
Speaker 6: Obama gave you sheets.
Speaker 11: In fact, the statement is Obama gave sheets and Trump
Speaker 11: gave javelins.
Speaker 2: See the point there that's funny to me is that
Speaker 2: he's talking about Obama and Biden and everything, and Zelensky's
Speaker 2: trying to tell him, Look, Putin doesn't honor ceasefires. Man,
Speaker 2: ask our people what they think about that, and Trump's
Speaker 2: not hearing them. Now, if that's the way that you
Speaker 2: think business should be conducted, if that's the way you
Speaker 2: think international affairs should be conducted, I don't know what
Speaker 2: to tell you, but I was a little surprised by
Speaker 2: that personally, Uh, a bit surprised. I didn't think you
Speaker 2: would go like that. Anyway, here's what we might do.
Speaker 2: Let's see if we have some other listeners on the
Speaker 2: line calling in and we don't three one nine, five
Speaker 2: two seven, five zero one six. That is the number
Speaker 2: to call in and you can join into this and
Speaker 2: talk to us about what was actually happen, happening, what
Speaker 2: was actually said, how it was handled. You know, you
Speaker 2: throw a bunch of questions that Zelenski tries to answer him,
Speaker 2: and they don't let him answer, and then they start
Speaker 2: yelling and don't tell us what we're supposed to feel.
Speaker 2: He was trying to explain that eventually, you know, you
Speaker 2: got an ocean protecting you from this action, but eventually
Speaker 2: this kind of stuff could come home to you because
Speaker 2: the ocean is, you know, nice protection, but it's not
Speaker 2: the biggest thing in the world to always protect you eternally.
Speaker 2: Remember not that he's not making a threat here. He
Speaker 2: was very carefully trying to say that eventually this kind
Speaker 2: of thing could happen. And if people start attacking you,
Speaker 2: or if people start giving you problems, or they start
Speaker 2: not wanting to do business with you, or whatever else,
Speaker 2: and start telling you and dictating to you because they
Speaker 2: have an advantage over you for the moment, you're not
Speaker 2: going to like it. And if his country falls, there
Speaker 2: will be an influential effect which is what he was
Speaker 2: trying to say, but his England, which was a little
Speaker 2: rough there. You'll feel the influence. What that means is
Speaker 2: you're gonna feel the after effects. The things that this
Speaker 2: causes could lead to other effects. And that's the problem here.
Speaker 2: There's gonna be unintended consequences. That's the thing that I
Speaker 2: complained about the first time when people elected Trump. I said,
Speaker 2: you know, this guy would never be able to handle
Speaker 2: a Cuban missile crisis. Other people said he you would
Speaker 2: never get us into one. Okay, fair cool. But can
Speaker 2: he handle a nuance or can he handle a situation
Speaker 2: where he's not been preordained to have the advantage over people?
Speaker 2: How well does he do in that situation? I mean,
Speaker 2: he claims victory at all times, but realistically you think
Speaker 2: this is gonna work out? Is this a good idea
Speaker 2: to just cut this guy loose? Maybe it is. Maybe
Speaker 2: you're all correct about it, right. I don't see it
Speaker 2: that way. America's never functioned that way. But then again,
Speaker 2: we've been dysfunctional a long time. So going back to
Speaker 2: Chris's point in Florida, some of us think that, you know,
Speaker 2: what if the whole thing does get burned down. Maybe
Speaker 2: it would be better to rebuild something better, stronger and
Speaker 2: makes more sense and represents the people better. But will
Speaker 2: that happen even if it does all get burned to
Speaker 2: the ground, or will we have a replacement with nothing
Speaker 2: but the oligarchy running the whole game? Oh crap, We've
Speaker 2: already got that, except we haven't been destroyed yet. We
Speaker 2: know we suffered depressions, recessions, other issues, But as far
Speaker 2: as I remember, there hasn't been you know, enemy foreign
Speaker 2: troops here since what eighteen twelve when the British burned
Speaker 2: down the White House? Was that eighteen twelve? I think,
Speaker 2: so somewhere in there they burned down the White House, right,
Speaker 2: but or burn it up, messed it up. Whatever point is,
Speaker 2: we had foreign troops here, and we did have foreign
Speaker 2: invader type people trying to sabotage things, you know, during
Speaker 2: World War Two, German and Japanese agents tried to do that,
Speaker 2: and of course they had to reach out to the
Speaker 2: people that really ran the docks, the organized crime figures,
Speaker 2: first making a deal with Rothstein there I think, or
Speaker 2: maybe by then it wasn't Rothstein, it was actually oh,
Speaker 2: the other Jewish gangster who was actually involved with the
Speaker 2: Great Uncle sal there in New York. Either way, control
Speaker 2: of the docks through Italian businessmen and unions and stuff.
Speaker 2: All of a sudden they did need that help also
Speaker 2: to invade Sicily. They got it. Italians, even the criminal ones,
Speaker 2: very patriotic because we got this crazy idea that this
Speaker 2: country would offer us much better opportunities. Now, the only
Speaker 2: sick delusion that the my Italian ancestors suffered from was
Speaker 2: this idea that there was upward mobility. I mean, maybe
Speaker 2: it existed in the generation before me, but no longer.
Speaker 2: And I know that makes me some sort of comedy
Speaker 2: socialist whatever I know. But look, I'm gonna take a
Speaker 2: break and hopefully we'll get some more interesting discussions from
Speaker 2: you guys. If not, I'll go back to whoever's on
Speaker 2: the lines. Happily, I think Chris from Florida is still there,
Speaker 2: so I'll go back to him. I'll talk to whoever
Speaker 2: else calls in or skype'es in. If you want to
Speaker 2: skype in, send me a message Charles Ocelly on Skype. However,
Speaker 2: some news coming up. Skype is going to be eliminated
Speaker 2: by May of this year. They're going to actually cancel
Speaker 2: the whole Skype thing. It's been around for over twenty years,
Speaker 2: but it's gonna go because it's not making enough money
Speaker 2: for Microsoft. So we won't have Skype pretty soon, and
Speaker 2: I'll have to change a few things up. I might
Speaker 2: have to use Microsoft Teams, which I am so not
Speaker 2: looking forward to. And you know, I knew they were
Speaker 2: jamming that down our throats. It's like the uh Microsoft
Speaker 2: Edge browser. They're trying to make us all use, and eventually,
Speaker 2: you know, all your computers will be Microsoft running. I'm
Speaker 2: sure Bill Gates will get his cut of the pie,
Speaker 2: and Elon Musk will have his various X products and
Speaker 2: government contracts running at full steam because he's got absolutely
Speaker 2: no roadblocks now. Anyway, I'm starting to feel like Zelinski
Speaker 2: when it comes to media anymore. Nobody wants to hear
Speaker 2: what I gotta say, and everybody cuts me off and
Speaker 2: tells me stuff anyway, But I want to hear from you.
Speaker 2: Three one nine, five two seven five zero one six
Speaker 2: three one nine five two seven five zero one six.
Speaker 2: I'll play just another snippet of that meeting and then
Speaker 2: go to a break. Here on the Friday night, Ocelli
Speaker 2: effect open mic stay tuned.
Speaker 6: You gotta be more thankful.
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Speaker 2: No way Vladimir would do that to me.
Speaker 6: He keeps his words.
Speaker 8: Saying, he's asking, what if Russia brings the cease fire?
Speaker 6: What if anything? What if anything from your head? Right?
Speaker 2: Yes, what if anything falls on your head?
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Speaker 2: Smoke them if you got them. Hey, we're back on
Speaker 2: a Friday night and we are live taking your calls
Speaker 2: three one nine, five two seven five zero one six.
Speaker 2: Hopefully we'll get more joining in. I want to hear
Speaker 2: from you. It's a good night to talk about stuff.
Speaker 2: And what kind of stuff could we talk about? Well,
Speaker 2: we could avoid politics if you like, or we could
Speaker 2: go with this a lot with me.
Speaker 11: He went through a phony witch hunt where it used
Speaker 11: him in Russia, Russia, Russia, Russia.
Speaker 6: You ever hear of that deal?
Speaker 11: There was a phony that was a phony hunter Biden,
Speaker 11: Joe Biden's scam, Hillary Clinton, Shifty Adam Shift who was
Speaker 11: a Democrat scam.
Speaker 6: And he had to go through that. And he did
Speaker 6: go through it. We didn't end up in a war,
Speaker 6: and he went through it. He was accused of all
Speaker 6: that stuff. He had nothing to do with it.
Speaker 11: It came out of Hunter Biden's bathroom. It came out
Speaker 11: of Hunter Biden's bedroom.
Speaker 6: It was disgusting.
Speaker 11: And then they said, oh, oh, the laptop from Hell
Speaker 11: was made by Russia, the fifty one agents.
Speaker 6: The whole thing was a scam and he had to
Speaker 6: put up with that. He was being accused of all
Speaker 6: that stuff.
Speaker 2: All I can say is this talking about Vladimir Putin by.
Speaker 6: Obama and Bush. And he might have broken him with Biden.
Speaker 6: He did maybe maybe he did. I don't know what happened,
Speaker 6: but he didn't break.
Speaker 2: Him with me.
Speaker 6: He wants to make a deal. I don't know if
Speaker 6: you can make a deal.
Speaker 2: The problem is the president of the United States doesn't
Speaker 2: know the history of whether deals were made, broken, whatever.
Speaker 2: He don't care because he wasn't there. Is that what
Speaker 2: we take from that? I think so just saying, according
Speaker 2: to his own words, I don't know, I wasn't there.
Speaker 11: Cool, I've empowered you to be a tough guy and.
Speaker 10: I don't think you'd be a tough guy without the
Speaker 10: United States, and your people.
Speaker 11: Are very brave. But you're either going to make a
Speaker 11: deal or we're out. And if we're out, you'll fight
Speaker 11: it out. I don't think it's going to be pretty,
Speaker 11: but you'll fight it out. But you don't have the cards.
Speaker 11: But once we signed deal, you're in a much better position.
Speaker 11: But you're not acting at all thankful. And that's not
Speaker 11: a nice thing. I'll be honest, that's not a nice thing.
Speaker 11: All right, I think we've seen enough.
Speaker 6: What do you.
Speaker 11: Think this is gonna be great television?
Speaker 6: I will say that.
Speaker 11: We will see what we can do about but.
Speaker 12: You will see.
Speaker 2: And then after everybody's happy with themselves, they usher the
Speaker 2: news media out. That's the way that went today. And
Speaker 2: then they canceled the post press conference where they're supposed
Speaker 2: to stand up at the podiums and do that whole thing.
Speaker 2: But did you need the rest of the show or not?
Speaker 2: Probably not? Uh anyway, Chris, I might well wait a minute,
Speaker 2: let's see, can we get him back on the line. Wow,
Speaker 2: it didn't want to let me press the button? Now? Did? Okay?
Speaker 2: You're back though? Three one nine, five two seven five
Speaker 2: zero one six, anybody can join in. But now that
Speaker 2: you've heard part of that, uh, that's what you remember
Speaker 2: hearing earlier, right, correct? Okay, just checking. I mean interesting
Speaker 2: how contradictions happened right in front of people and nobody
Speaker 2: questions it. And jd Vance is very happy with this
Speaker 2: whole thing. You see how he was like, really, what
Speaker 2: do they call that? The uh the uh, well, let's
Speaker 2: let's pg it up for a second. The poop eating grin? Yeah,
Speaker 2: is that the phrase? Uh?
Speaker 6: There?
Speaker 2: You know, I don't see how this guy's happy with himself.
Speaker 2: What productive thing happened there? Oh? He told off Vladimir's Lensky. Cool,
Speaker 2: we made you a tough guy. You're not a very
Speaker 2: tough Well you're kind of a tough guy. Your people
Speaker 2: are brave, but you're not a tough guy. You're only
Speaker 2: a tough guy because of the United States.
Speaker 3: Wow, but how much is this is theatrics? I'm not
Speaker 3: trying to cut you up. How much of this is theatrics?
Speaker 7: Well, it's you know, you can look at various news sources.
Speaker 7: I mean, you know, throughout throughout the last few years
Speaker 7: since this supposed war has been ongoing, and as a
Speaker 7: more as a more recently with them, like the last year.
Speaker 18: I mean, you can see what supposed videos of and
Speaker 18: then there's so much misinformation out there. I'm not trying
Speaker 18: to I hate to prepare the media, but misinformation, disinformation
Speaker 18: that I mean, you can if you, if you look
Speaker 18: hard enough, you can find videos of you know, the
Speaker 18: young individuals supposedly walking around, you know, in downtown you know,
Speaker 18: the main downtown areas of Ukraine. You know where they've
Speaker 18: got what mister's set up, you know, and there's there's
Speaker 18: twenty something year old you know, male and females walking
Speaker 18: the streets.
Speaker 2: Well they haven't destroyed, they haven't, you.
Speaker 3: Know, but but not But on the end verse, I
Speaker 3: mean you can go on like other other websites and
Speaker 3: you know you see, uh yeah, Russian soldiers are being
Speaker 3: you know, stepping on land mines and you know, being
Speaker 3: killed or being killed by drones or you know, hitting
Speaker 3: a drone with a baseball bat whatnot. You know.
Speaker 7: I mean, well, look, I realistically, no no reason on
Speaker 7: the internet.
Speaker 2: I got you realistically though, right, the capital city has
Speaker 2: been almost untouched by most of this, right, so if
Speaker 2: you're seeing stuff that's still standing, it looks like to me,
Speaker 2: that's in the capital of Ukraine, right, Uh, they've left
Speaker 2: that city untouched. But I mean reports from people, not
Speaker 2: necessarily news outlets, but people that are sneaking out, you know,
Speaker 2: accounts on their own. As far as I know, our reporting, Look,
Speaker 2: every other place is like just crushed, beat up pretty bad.
Speaker 2: You know. Have we heard from the former heavyweight champion
Speaker 2: who was a mayor one of the Klitschko brothers is
Speaker 2: a mayor of one of the big cities there, right,
Speaker 2: and we haven't even heard from him in the past year.
Speaker 2: I think, I don't know if he's alive, dead, or
Speaker 2: just went away. Who knows what's going on. And some
Speaker 2: news outlets have had on the former president, you know,
Speaker 2: the guy that they allegedly ran out of there to
Speaker 2: put this guy in. And there's lots of accounts. Look,
Speaker 2: the truth is, unless we can go there ourselves, we
Speaker 2: don't really know anymore. Because of all of the different spins.
Speaker 2: I know that our corporate media stopped supporting Ukraine pretty
Speaker 2: much because they were all in. Remember it was all like,
Speaker 2: oh my god, we got to feel for the troops there,
Speaker 2: we got to feel for the Ukrainian people, and they
Speaker 2: dropped that after about six eight months, I think, and
Speaker 2: that hasn't been the same since.
Speaker 3: Right, Well, but Tim wiltaneously we also what we've got
Speaker 3: what was it the operation.
Speaker 2: The Yes, if I'm not mistaken, Yeah, that was one
Speaker 2: of the old ones.
Speaker 3: Yeah. And we can't discount the I mean that is
Speaker 3: something that is still being utilized to this very day.
Speaker 2: No, not about we can't.
Speaker 3: Media has the ability to lie to us to our face.
Speaker 2: No, no discount at all. Chris, Yeah, yeah, wait wait
Speaker 2: wait more new Wait a minute, wait a minute, wait
Speaker 2: just one second, forget about Mockingbird. Mockingbird's old news. We
Speaker 2: have brand new news about the Biden administration literally trying
Speaker 2: to make payoffs or making payoffs to some media outlets.
Speaker 2: Now they made up a few of them. You know,
Speaker 2: there are fake reports about the Biden administration making payoffs,
Speaker 2: and then there's real ones that nobody's challenging, where they
Speaker 2: paid news outlets to push certain stories. And of course
Speaker 2: there was all sorts of backwards different threats coming at
Speaker 2: you know, people at Facebook. I mean, Zuckerberg over there
Speaker 2: seems legitimately afraid of Trump now because he wanted to
Speaker 2: put him in prison. But meanwhile he was also fighting
Speaker 2: with the Democrats because they wanted to put him in
Speaker 2: prison over medical disinformation. Right, letting people, how dare you
Speaker 2: allow Facebook to challenge vaccines? We're gonna put these guys
Speaker 2: are in an untenable position unless they are the overlords themselves,
Speaker 2: Unless you're Elon musk owning X right now, you're in
Speaker 2: a position where if you make the wrong enemy in
Speaker 2: our government. You know, free speech, that's a joke at
Speaker 2: this point. And I mean, look, we could go way
Speaker 2: back in history and go to FDR. You know, the
Speaker 2: great liberal emancipator who gave us a great society or
Speaker 2: whatever the hell he was that he did. FDR was
Speaker 2: like basically at war with the Constitution the whole time,
Speaker 2: shutting down all sorts of media, spinning propaganda constantly. I mean,
Speaker 2: we need to get honest about it. But Mockingbird makes
Speaker 2: it sound like you're talking about it's old news. I'm
Speaker 2: telling you that this is a constant going on where
Speaker 2: you got to get approval from these different places and
Speaker 2: then they claim, well we can't get in, and I mean,
Speaker 2: and look complain or not. The Associated Press has been
Speaker 2: banned from press briefings now because they wouldn't acknowledge the
Speaker 2: Gulf of America instead of the Gulf of Mexico. I mean,
Speaker 2: we're in a different landscape here today, Chris, don't you think.
Speaker 2: I mean Mockingbird was one thing, but now with these
Speaker 2: modern media conventions, it's gotten even more extreme and more
Speaker 2: direct and more naked. I think this idea that we
Speaker 2: have a fourth the stake forget it, it's gone right.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm in and I all agree with you. That
Speaker 3: means this. Yeah, the propagand has been it's been sheved
Speaker 3: throats for so long that you know, it's impossible for
Speaker 3: anybody to really have them, how long it's been going
Speaker 3: on for And most people wouldn't even mentally be able
Speaker 3: to acknowledge it it's been going on. You know, it'll
Speaker 3: just break their It'll break the world. It'll shatter their
Speaker 3: little realities.
Speaker 2: That we all like to live in, exactly. And we
Speaker 2: do have a we do have a live chatroom at
Speaker 2: Ocelli dot com and plenty of open phone lines. I've
Speaker 2: got about one hundred open phone lines. And no matter
Speaker 2: what happens to Skype in the near future, will integrate
Speaker 2: the old phone system into a new system very soon,
Speaker 2: probably next month, so I'm gonna have to buy a
Speaker 2: subscription to something. I guarantee it. But either way, we'll
Speaker 2: make sure we keep the phone lines open. I'm looking
Speaker 2: at the chatroom though, and you can go there. I
Speaker 2: think I released the ban on anons because there were
Speaker 2: abusive Anon people in the room for a few weeks,
Speaker 2: so I got rid of that for a little while.
Speaker 2: But I think you can go in there and chat anonymously. Still.
Speaker 2: But Phase shifter nine, I'm yeah, Phase shifter eight. Sorry,
Speaker 2: Phase shifter eight. With the stage horse shite, you'll need
Speaker 2: a double tinfoil hat lined with some copper mesh. So
Speaker 2: many these are comments from the chat, so many agendas,
Speaker 2: so little time. Got to just get them done before
Speaker 2: it's too late and the Rubes get wise on the scam.
Speaker 2: I don't know if the rubs are ever gonna get
Speaker 2: wise on the scam chatter anyway. Elon is the right
Speaker 2: wings favorite tech overlord. Gates is the left's favorite. Yeah,
Speaker 2: but notice they both maintain a straggle hold on certain
Speaker 2: parts of society one way or another. Left and right.
Speaker 2: I mean, you do need a left hand in a
Speaker 2: right hand to be an effective fighter of any kind.
Speaker 2: Right or a boxer or hey left and right wings
Speaker 2: for any any bird, whether they're flightless or not, they
Speaker 2: got both wings anyway, might need to add a layer
Speaker 2: of lead to that hat as well. Another comment there,
Speaker 2: Trump's just throwing scraps of bloody meat to his cult members.
Speaker 2: They'll all be saying, how Trump sure told him? What's what?
Speaker 3: By one of these people would call in, wasn't it?
Speaker 3: I would love for chat from just call in and
Speaker 3: I actually talk.
Speaker 2: Yeah, please do please do three one nine, five two seven.
Speaker 2: I will let you say anything on this show. Not
Speaker 2: doing AM and FM anymore, so you can speak your
Speaker 2: mind any which way you want. And by the way,
Speaker 2: I also got kicked off of YouTube and even Larry
Speaker 2: Hancock this past last week Larry Hancock got himself suspended
Speaker 2: on Facebook for some reason. Okay, so believe me and
Speaker 2: I have no idea how that happened. I mean that's
Speaker 2: like saying you know, no, no, and he goes to
Speaker 2: try and fill out the thing to make an appeal
Speaker 2: and there's no button for an appeal, Like they're like,
Speaker 2: go below and make an appeal and there's no button.
Speaker 2: So I don't know what to tell him. I don't
Speaker 2: know what to tell anybody anymore. People are getting kicked
Speaker 2: off of every kind of platform possible, except if you're
Speaker 2: on the left and you go to Blue Sky, you
Speaker 2: can do all your leftist stuff over there. If you
Speaker 2: go to Twitter you can or ex excuse me, if
Speaker 2: you go there, you can do all the poor and
Speaker 2: all day you want, and right wing craziness you want
Speaker 2: over there, and you can go to truth Social. Wait
Speaker 2: a minute, there are there are like maga people on
Speaker 2: Blue Sky.
Speaker 3: Now, I was saying, the porn stuff, oh nice, just
Speaker 3: other degrees is yeah.
Speaker 2: I'm sorry. I didn't know that porn was on Blue
Speaker 2: Sky as well, but thank you for informing me. I
Speaker 2: assume porn is everywhere, but it really took off, Like
Speaker 2: I never saw so much porn on that site, you know, Twitter,
Speaker 2: x whatever, until Elon took it over and said I'm
Speaker 2: gonna change things. And as soon as he did, boy,
Speaker 2: there is every kind of internet hooker on there. With
Speaker 2: private cams. There is all sorts of porno being shared.
Speaker 2: Sometimes you see their accounts disappear, you know, a day
Speaker 2: or two later, but most times the stuff keeps on
Speaker 2: and coming. Meanwhile, I think we got one of the
Speaker 2: chatters on the line, so I'm gonna go to them. Chris,
Speaker 2: put you on hold if you don't mind, and see
Speaker 2: what he's got to say. Okay, Chris, hold on, and yes,
Speaker 2: my friend, I've gone straightt Hey.
Speaker 19: Hey, you know I don't call in on this show
Speaker 19: very much because I I don't want to rankle people,
Speaker 19: because all I can do is heckle at this nonsense.
Speaker 19: And I know that Jimmy and BP, some of these guys,
Speaker 19: they take it all pretty serious, and I don't want
Speaker 19: to offend them if I come on. I mean, you
Speaker 19: see my comments, That's exactly what I feel about all
Speaker 19: this crap.
Speaker 6: No.
Speaker 2: I love I love your ed I love your commentary.
Speaker 2: I really do appreciate it. It's one of the few things
Speaker 2: that keeps me going when I feel like I'm being
Speaker 2: beaten over the head with Fox News. Sometimes I got
Speaker 2: to be honest with you. So, I mean, I love
Speaker 2: it when you're commenting on the chat.
Speaker 19: Jimmy didn't jump off because I pissed him off with
Speaker 19: some of my comments. I like Jimmy's. Jimmy helps me
Speaker 19: to understand that side of thinking a little better from
Speaker 19: a more intelligent perspective than.
Speaker 2: I've ever met with no, Jimmy.
Speaker 19: I respect Jimmy.
Speaker 2: Jimmy's extremely informative, you know, one way or another. I
Speaker 2: mean some sometimes he's got you know, some propaganda caught
Speaker 2: his wings a bit, but I mean who doesn't anymore,
Speaker 2: It's impossible. So Jimmy always informs me about a lot
Speaker 2: of things. So I appreciate his calls, you know, But
Speaker 2: sometimes when I can't escape, you know, the one thing
Speaker 2: that's going on, like this, this old thing with Zelensky today,
Speaker 2: Like I didn't even want to open up Twitter because
Speaker 2: I knew what I was going to get, you know
Speaker 2: what I mean, where it's like damn right, you know
Speaker 2: I was going to see that. And by the way,
Speaker 2: just let me ask you a quick question about other
Speaker 2: things in the media that you might have paid attention to.
Speaker 2: Did you see any of this, you know, big information
Speaker 2: dump on the Epstein files, because that was promised to
Speaker 2: us today. Did you see it, Pam BONDI is supposed
Speaker 2: to put it out.
Speaker 19: Yeah, I haven't seen it. But I haven't looked for
Speaker 19: it either, so huh, yeah, I haven't seen it for sure.
Speaker 19: I know. I try to avoid that stuff because none
Speaker 19: of it is anything I can take seriously, Like most
Speaker 19: people do. I just see it all as kind of
Speaker 19: part of a mandala of fraud, you know, like you
Speaker 19: know the mandala that has all the circle with all
Speaker 19: the different shapes and images in it and everything. Okay,
Speaker 19: It's like this complex mandala of fraud is how I
Speaker 19: see the whole media and political landscape. So it's like,
Speaker 19: I say, I like to see what people are thinking,
Speaker 19: but I personally just can't buy into it as being
Speaker 19: something I can and take seriously very much. I know
Speaker 19: I'm affected by it and what they do, but I
Speaker 19: don't think voting or marching or any of that crap
Speaker 19: changes anything or would have already. We've all done all
Speaker 19: of that.
Speaker 2: Well, I'm just reading you know, the general news articles
Speaker 2: here as I go back to it, and it's like,
Speaker 2: you know, the whole thing that everybody was touting as
Speaker 2: this is going to be the big reveal. These elite
Speaker 2: and powerful people that we never heard of are going
Speaker 2: to be exposed as the pedophile perverts they are, right,
Speaker 2: or you know, I'm always corrected by people in England
Speaker 2: the pedo files excuse me, because you know, a pedophile
Speaker 2: might be more concerned with feet. Peto is more like
Speaker 2: feet as opposed to pedo but anyway, a pedo file,
Speaker 2: whatever you want to call them. These people, you know,
Speaker 2: these scumbags that went to Rape Island, all right. You
Speaker 2: know I'm not calling it Lolite Island like a lot
Speaker 2: of other people Rape Island. And we're hooked in with
Speaker 2: the Epstein thing. Yeah, there's a whole lot of celebrities
Speaker 2: and other people, and you know there are pictures of
Speaker 2: Trump standing next to them but paying no attention to that. Okay.
Speaker 19: Well, and Trump also said that gis Lane is you know,
Speaker 19: what do you feel about gis Lane being arrested. Oh,
Speaker 19: she's a good friend. I wish her well.
Speaker 2: I wish her well with those people. That's what he
Speaker 2: said until somebody told him, and then people questioned him
Speaker 2: about it later he said, I don't know. I just
Speaker 2: wished her well because you know, I'm being persecuted, and
Speaker 2: they turned it into that. But you know, I'll go
Speaker 2: over it got me a.
Speaker 19: Lot of hot little thirteen year olds. Man, Why would
Speaker 19: I be against her?
Speaker 2: Well, see, now I didn't say that, you did it,
Speaker 2: but I'll get playing for it. Thanks, I said it.
Speaker 2: So let me just go to one of the most
Speaker 2: recent published things here and see if I can get
Speaker 2: a sense of what the big deal was you know
Speaker 2: about this, because it was a big announcement, it was
Speaker 2: supposed to be, you know, coming at us. And this
Speaker 2: is from a Vox dot com. What do you think
Speaker 2: of Box? Are they like really leftists over there or what?
Speaker 5: Oh?
Speaker 19: Well, they're not on my radar. Sorry, okay, I don't
Speaker 19: know who they are.
Speaker 2: Well, Vox a lot of times has some of the
Speaker 2: you know, breaking news and the more controversial stuff Box
Speaker 2: will carry. So let's just see what they have about
Speaker 2: this controversy. So you don't mind, I'll just read a
Speaker 2: couple of sentences from this and turn it back over
Speaker 2: to you. The Trump administration utterly botched a hype release
Speaker 2: of quote Jeffrey Epstein files end quote Thursday, a saga
Speaker 2: that resulted in disappointment among the MAGA, faithful finger pointing
Speaker 2: among Trump's aides, and unsurprisingly, claims of deep state sabotage. Epstein. Now,
Speaker 2: let me ask you something. The deep state sabotage. After
Speaker 2: they touted that they were going to release this, PAMBONDI
Speaker 2: is their girls, She's gonna drop this. I mean, you know,
Speaker 2: are we wagging the dog or are we just letting
Speaker 2: them pee on the rug here anyway, back to the
Speaker 2: article Epstein, the well connected financier who was indicted for
Speaker 2: sex trafficking underage girls and died in prison in twenty nineteen. Wow,
Speaker 2: it's been that long. Has long been the subject of
Speaker 2: conspiracy theorists, and many on the right believe that the
Speaker 2: US government is hiding information that would implicate powerful people,
Speaker 2: specifically democrats and celebrities they believe related the life and
Speaker 2: death themselves. That's a related article, excuse me. In response
Speaker 2: to these demands, Attorney General Pambondy promised in a Fox
Speaker 2: News appearance Wednesday night that quote a lot of information
Speaker 2: end quote was set to be released soon. Then on Thursday,
Speaker 2: her team printed out a series of documents, put them
Speaker 2: in binders, and handed them to right wing influencers like
Speaker 2: Shia ratchik At liberals of TikTok, which is a weird
Speaker 2: ironic thing they do over there on Twitter x, who
Speaker 2: were visiting the White House. Said influencers proceeded to waive
Speaker 2: the binders about this sex trafficking case around in front
Speaker 2: of photographers while smiling, and made social media posts praising
Speaker 2: the administration's transparency. Naturally, the documents were a dud. One
Speaker 2: Epstein's contact book had been published by Gawker ten years ago. Another,
Speaker 2: a list of his mis sewers, was entirely redacted, and
Speaker 2: the other had been previously released during the twenty to
Speaker 2: twenty one trial of Epstein's associate Gilaine Maxwell. Nothing was
Speaker 2: new he it was all handled so incompetently that widespread
Speaker 2: biparticism mockery ensued on social media. Meanwhile, the MAGA faithful,
Speaker 2: denied their promised revelations, started to feel they've been taken
Speaker 2: for a ride, and began to wonder was this, in
Speaker 2: fact part of the cover up too? So I think
Speaker 2: that gives us a general idea of what happened here.
Speaker 2: A big to do was made on Wednesday, this is
Speaker 2: coming out, This is coming out. They even went to
Speaker 2: their official outlet, Fox News, the biggest one they have,
Speaker 2: and you know, because they have News Nation and a
Speaker 2: few others, but still they went there said we're waving
Speaker 2: these things around. They did an Alex Jones here, because
Speaker 2: Alex used to wave around pieces of papers. I have
Speaker 2: the documentation. It's all on the record, you know, that's
Speaker 2: his famous phrase, It's all on the record. What record
Speaker 2: Alex anyway, it's all on the record, wave around the
Speaker 2: pieces of paper, and then when you say, let me
Speaker 2: see this stuff, very much like people still asking me, Hey,
Speaker 2: aren't you happy they released the JFK stuff? Trump did it?
Speaker 2: Trump did it? And I go, not yet, he hasn't
Speaker 2: and I don't have it. I don't have it because
Speaker 2: the world doesn't have it yet, not done incomplete at best,
Speaker 2: and people just go, Nope, he did it, he won.
Speaker 2: So now I guess some of the extreme maga people
Speaker 2: were going, hey, we're gonna get him tomorrow. Don't worry.
Speaker 2: All the Democrats are going down tomorrow. And then they
Speaker 2: got a redacted list, a previously published address book and crap,
Speaker 2: and they went, wait a minute, maybe we're being taken
Speaker 2: per ride. Is this part of the cover up too? Well,
Speaker 2: here's the problem. Pam Bondy is your girl. Trump is
Speaker 2: your boy. Elon Musk should be able to avoid any
Speaker 2: of the tech land mines here since he's such a
Speaker 2: super genius. While Elon Musk super genius is there with
Speaker 2: those and everything else. He's the advisor, right, he's the
Speaker 2: tech support advisor. So tell me something. If you feel
Speaker 2: like been had, who had you it's like the biggie
Speaker 2: smallest thing who shot you? Right? Anyway, I'm just asking
Speaker 2: the questions, Ed, but maybe you got answers. Go ahead.
Speaker 2: Oh and I think I see Jimmy James on the
Speaker 2: line because I'm not reading anymore. So I'll get to
Speaker 2: Jimmy soon. I want to hear from Jimmyson before you
Speaker 2: bring him on.
Speaker 19: I think, like, like, everybody's waiting for the JFK documents,
Speaker 19: but they've been delayed and delayed for decades. Do we
Speaker 19: really believe they haven't been tampered with or whitewashed or edited? Well,
Speaker 19: same thing with Trump and Epstein. It's pretty it's established.
Speaker 19: Trump's kind of buddies with Epstein and Ghislaine. Isn't he
Speaker 19: going to edit out the damning stuff that might be
Speaker 19: in this? In this whatever they are talking about, he's
Speaker 19: going to edit that out. He's not, you know, the
Speaker 19: pedophile in chief is going to go after the pedophiles
Speaker 19: really well. See that's the thing I don't I don't
Speaker 19: think it's absurd, it's just absurd.
Speaker 2: But see, to me, Ed, I don't know what to
Speaker 2: make of anything until they actually drop a document, because
Speaker 2: I want to see the receipts. Man, this is always
Speaker 2: my thing. Like everybody tells me about what's in the
Speaker 2: JFK documents. And they got new stuff from the FBI,
Speaker 2: and I'm like, well that's great, let me see it.
Speaker 2: Let the public habit, like the low says, and you
Speaker 2: know what, I'll tell you what's in it best I can.
Speaker 2: But I can't tell you anything until it actually comes out.
Speaker 2: And they made a big to do about this and
Speaker 2: I don't know why. And again, how about the tape.
Speaker 19: So there's some Epstein tapes out there that I forgot
Speaker 19: that you and you were talking about that that I
Speaker 19: did hear on A on A I got off work
Speaker 19: last night, so I was looking at some stuff I
Speaker 19: was too tired to read or anything, and I came
Speaker 19: across a thing where they were playing some tapes apparently
Speaker 19: released that are supposedly Epstein, and he was talking about that.
Speaker 19: You know, Trump was his good friend and everything, but
Speaker 19: Trump's not that smart, That's what I remember Epstein saying
Speaker 19: about Trump. Well, you know that if they're legit, I
Speaker 19: don't even know if that stuff's legit.
Speaker 2: Well that's the thing now with these AI. Now, with
Speaker 2: this AI crap out there, I bet you I could
Speaker 2: get you know, Jeffrey Epstein singing, uh, you know, a
Speaker 2: black Sabbath if I wanted, you know, out of the AI.
Speaker 2: I'm just saying, you know.
Speaker 19: You don't know what there's some tapes that has supposedly
Speaker 19: been released. Is that a real thing that you've heard of?
Speaker 19: There are that the documents were talking about.
Speaker 2: No, No, they're not the tapes, Okay, because.
Speaker 19: That's what I that's what I saw last night.
Speaker 2: No, this was Yeah, this was allegedly a treasure trove
Speaker 2: of stuff that was held back while he was still alive,
Speaker 2: because he was still you know, the case was in progress.
Speaker 2: Delaine had not been prosecuted yet, so they were holding
Speaker 2: onto evidence. All that stuff is what was supposed to drop,
Speaker 2: we thought, And like I said, it ends up being
Speaker 2: a big dud because either the stuff was out there,
Speaker 2: or it's still totally reacted, or you know, it's nothing.
Speaker 2: So you got a big nothing out of the Epstein drop.
Speaker 2: This weirdness today with Zolensky, it almost makes me wonder,
Speaker 2: if we're trying to run two distractions during the same week,
Speaker 2: what's the real operation we're covering up?
Speaker 19: So, you know, really, the first I heard of it
Speaker 19: was what you played and that sure as hell sounded
Speaker 19: like stage stuff to me.
Speaker 2: But you know what, do I know straight from the
Speaker 2: White House feed man that that is a video feed
Speaker 2: that the White House put out. They had the camera
Speaker 2: out there. I've got the whole thing where they're setting
Speaker 2: up the camera and they're taking it down. I mean,
Speaker 2: I go and get the whole thing, because I don't
Speaker 2: you know, you've.
Speaker 19: Got a reality actor as a president. Though I'm sure
Speaker 19: he's this is nothing new to him.
Speaker 2: There you go, right, And like I said, I'll allow
Speaker 2: anybody to.
Speaker 19: With a CIA guy who allegedly said that they'd be successful.
Speaker 19: And I know I'm butchery it, but Casey, you know, well,
Speaker 19: we'll know where is successful. And the American people don't
Speaker 19: know what's real or not, and aren't we there now?
Speaker 2: Yeah, when they when they believe that everything is a lie,
Speaker 2: that's it. That's the gist of that quote. And a
Speaker 2: couple of people said similar things, but I think William
Speaker 2: Casey is most often credited with it. But basically that's
Speaker 2: the idea.
Speaker 19: The lady supposedly hurt him in the elevator saying, you know,
Speaker 19: when you get the American people who really don't know
Speaker 19: what's real and what's not. It will be as successful
Speaker 19: because they feel like we're there, man, we're there now.
Speaker 2: Yeah, they succeeded, absolutely true. I think we've absolutely gotten
Speaker 2: to a point where people have decided that everything is
Speaker 2: a fake. And I talked about this many times on
Speaker 2: the show. Once you got everybody thinking that everything indeed
Speaker 2: is a fake, then that means they can pick and
Speaker 2: choose what it is they believe is real and run
Speaker 2: with that. And that's all based on what what they feel. See.
Speaker 2: That's the key there. But anyway, I want to get
Speaker 2: to Jimmy James and get his honest take on today's
Speaker 2: let bring or anything else that he wants to talk about,
Speaker 2: because we got still about a half hour left and
Speaker 2: I still haven't seen a message from BP yet. So
Speaker 2: I'm running the call and show myself tonight, mostly unless
Speaker 2: he joins me at the end. But Ed, I really
Speaker 2: thank you for calling in man, and Aaron is definitely
Speaker 2: up at ten o'clock with an interesting interview, but I
Speaker 2: don't know what he's gonna do from there. Uh, So
Speaker 2: we'll find out at ten and eleven o'clock tonight Eastern.
Speaker 19: That is, of course, uncle on vacation. The retired guy's
Speaker 19: on vacation. I'm going to give him hell when he
Speaker 19: gets back.
Speaker 6: Man.
Speaker 2: Yeah, and we still got all those Super Bowl bets.
Speaker 2: We got a whole bunch of Super Bowl bets to
Speaker 2: sort out when he gets home. You know. See.
Speaker 19: Yeah, nobody's getting any interest out of me on that
Speaker 19: because Uncle didn't show up yet.
Speaker 2: Hey look, I don't even I don't even expect the
Speaker 2: dollar head. But it's okay. We'll go through the exercise
Speaker 2: when Uncle gets back. Anyway, let me get to Jimmy James.
Speaker 2: I don't want to keep him on hold anymore, but yeah.
Speaker 19: Get him on, Get Jimmy on serious.
Speaker 2: Thanks for you, Thank you serious, Thanks for you calling in, brother,
Speaker 2: Thank you so much, and thank you for sticking with
Speaker 2: us over the years. I appreciate you, and you too, Chris.
Speaker 2: I didn't mean I forgot to mention that to you
Speaker 2: that I know you've been a long time listener and
Speaker 2: I appreciate you. I just want you to know that,
Speaker 2: and I'll I so appreciate this guy, Jimmy James. I'm sorry, Jimmy,
Speaker 2: I kept you on hold longer than I wanted to
Speaker 2: both times. But you know, what the rest of the
Speaker 2: show might be all yours if you got plenty to say,
Speaker 2: so go ahead, brother, the floor is yours.
Speaker 1: Can you hear me?
Speaker 2: Yes, sir, I can. All right.
Speaker 1: I had to switch phones because the other one was
Speaker 1: working like crap.
Speaker 2: Okay, so you weren't mad at me. It was just
Speaker 2: like a digital malfunction.
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, I just it was wasn't workable. I could
Speaker 1: hear er. I could everything I was hearing from your
Speaker 1: side was sounding all crazy before I even got on,
Speaker 1: So I just hung up and fired up the other phone.
Speaker 2: Cool. Well, look crazy could have been me. But then again,
Speaker 2: electronic misadventure happens all the time. Sorry about that. I
Speaker 2: had nothing to do with it. But anyway, I'm curious.
Speaker 2: Do you have any thoughts on this? Uh, you know
Speaker 2: Zolensky event earlier, or on the Epstein mess or anything else,
Speaker 2: or you want to talk about something entirely different. It's
Speaker 2: all up to you.
Speaker 1: Well, since everyone's talking about this Zelensky deal, Well, I
Speaker 1: quasi I agree with both callers. Yeah, I think it's
Speaker 1: kind of sort of scripted, but Zelensky isn't isn't in
Speaker 1: on it.
Speaker 2: So Zelensky's not in it. Is so you agree with me
Speaker 2: where I say, he looks a little surprised then, Jimmy.
Speaker 1: Yeah, well everyone was surprised because Rubio thought that the
Speaker 1: man was ready to sign some kind of stuff and instead,
Speaker 1: I guess he made some kind of speeches as that
Speaker 1: the other thing I have and you watch just I
Speaker 1: just caught just seeing a few minutes on CNN of
Speaker 1: Rubio talked to some lady. Uh.
Speaker 2: Well, I don't know what Rubio said, but I know
Speaker 2: Zelensky kept getting cut off. He's trying to talk, and
Speaker 2: he was getting cut off left and right no matter
Speaker 2: what he said. He upset Trump, and Trump just went
Speaker 2: at him, you know, and uh and and also jd
Speaker 2: Vance got mad and was saying, you know, it's very disrespectful.
Speaker 2: He started with the disrespectful jd Vance if I remember correctly,
Speaker 2: but either way, both Trump and him were like, you're
Speaker 2: disrespecting us. You should be thankful. How is it that
Speaker 2: you you you have nothing to say? And then Trump's like, no,
Speaker 2: you have no cards, You're trying to talk. You're talking
Speaker 2: too much, even said to him. And it's funny because
Speaker 2: if you watch it, I think they kept cutting Zelensky off,
Speaker 2: you know, but maybe I'm wrong about that. You look
Speaker 2: at it for yourself. I mean, i'll put the link
Speaker 2: in the chat room if you like, uh so everybody
Speaker 2: can go get it. But I think it's the most
Speaker 2: complete version that's up on YouTube right now. Maybe I'll
Speaker 2: put the link there, But uh, it was kind of interesting,
Speaker 2: you know, because I've never seen that before. You got
Speaker 2: to say that guaranteed you never seen a president talk
Speaker 2: to a leader of another country like that in public
Speaker 2: before we go ahead.
Speaker 1: That's great, Obviously, I don't know. I think what we're
Speaker 1: seeing diplomacy, elementary diplomacy meets the art of the deal. Obviously,
Speaker 1: there's no way in hades that Joe Biden or any
Speaker 1: of them clowns could ever speak to Putin. I mean,
Speaker 1: how can you after you call the guy every name
Speaker 1: in the book, this, that, and everything. It's all about posturing.
Speaker 1: I don't know, but I think there's if you're going
Speaker 1: to negotiate a piece there, you have to come from
Speaker 1: a somewhat plausible neutral play in america's just been sewing
Speaker 1: the bag for one side. If you were Russia, would
Speaker 1: you trust us to broker peace?
Speaker 2: Well, if I was, If I was Vladimir if I
Speaker 2: was Vladimir Putin, I would trust Trump to uh protect
Speaker 2: my interest because he's getting angry and bringing out the
Speaker 2: exact talking points that Putin is using. Plus still complaining
Speaker 2: about the Russia rush of Russia. I don't know if
Speaker 2: you heard that part. I played it on the show here.
Speaker 2: Uh you know, still complaining about that and saying, you know,
Speaker 2: this is ridiculous, and uh, this guy's been He was
Speaker 2: sympathizing with Putin right there in front of Zelenski. So
Speaker 2: I would say that if you believe Trump's public pronouncements,
Speaker 2: and you're Vladimir Putin right now, yeah, I would say
Speaker 2: I would trust him being the guy to be on
Speaker 2: your side on the negotiating table. I would say, so, yeah, good.
Speaker 1: I hope Putin believes that. Something tells me he's not
Speaker 1: as dumb as the Americans.
Speaker 2: Oh, I guarantee you you're correct. I you know what
Speaker 2: I so, I have never agreed with you more than
Speaker 2: with what you just said and anything you've ever said
Speaker 2: on this show. One thousand percent. Putin is a lot
Speaker 2: smarter than anybody that we have sent to that table
Speaker 2: since he's been in control of Russia. I promise you
Speaker 2: that he's been smarter the entire time, Yes, sir, absolutely.
Speaker 2: I mean, remember the people they brought before Congress that
Speaker 2: were you know, the Russian ambassadors and all that, please,
Speaker 2: they were the best, and our presidents and everything else
Speaker 2: have been nothing but an unmitigated disaster when dealing with Putin,
Speaker 2: they were out played at every single step. In my mind,
Speaker 2: but maybe that's just me. You know, ever since they
Speaker 2: lost ground to Clinton, and that's when Putin was not
Speaker 2: in charge. But since Putin's been in charge, he has
Speaker 2: had the absolute intellectual advantage over the US in my mind.
Speaker 2: So I agree with you one thousand percent there.
Speaker 1: Yes, he's gained ground under every single president in the
Speaker 1: twenty first century except Trump until now. Because obviously they're
Speaker 1: gonna cut a deal to try to quit the killing
Speaker 1: in Ukraine, and I hope they do. That's one of
Speaker 1: my big things. And it looks like the JFK documents
Speaker 1: they're gonna they're trying to find them and release, and
Speaker 1: I guess, yeah, well all those things are done, I'll
Speaker 1: be a lot happier than I am right now.
Speaker 2: See, you got to admit that everybody that you know
Speaker 2: was jumping up and down and saying look, it's already done.
Speaker 2: I mean, Jimmy, you're realistic. You know that they haven't
Speaker 2: done crap yet. But if you believe they're gonna that's
Speaker 2: another thing, because I don't know what the future is.
Speaker 2: But right now, well, they don't tell me about what
Speaker 2: they've done because they've done nothing, basically except make a
Speaker 2: couple of pronouncements and that executive order, right, and that's it.
Speaker 2: There has been no progress for revelations. We haven't seen
Speaker 2: any brand new information or new documentation yet. Now I
Speaker 2: give them time because I know you can't do it overnight,
Speaker 2: but you know, don't tell me about what they've already
Speaker 2: done because they haven't done it yet. I mean, you
Speaker 2: agree with that, don't you.
Speaker 1: Yeah, about the biggest news I've heard, and it's not
Speaker 1: really news because they've always come up with this figure
Speaker 1: that there's twenty five hundred documents that they won't release,
Speaker 1: and now the FBI says, oh, we found twenty four hundred. Yeah, okay, fine,
Speaker 1: that's a good start. And that does come to one
Speaker 1: hundred and forty thousand pages, which will take all of
Speaker 1: us the rest of our lives, I guess to read.
Speaker 2: Well, there's already more than five million pages in the
Speaker 2: in the JFK Documents collection. These are numbers we know,
Speaker 2: so you know they add another one hundred and forty thousand. Great,
Speaker 2: But the FBI thing is actually separate from the predetermined
Speaker 2: other documents they were talking about, you know, because the
Speaker 2: documentation with the FBI is supposedly newly discovered stuff. The
Speaker 2: other ones were examined. We do know the numbers because
Speaker 2: the AARRB did the work, and it's just the delayed
Speaker 2: release that we're dealing with there. So the FBI thing
Speaker 2: is allegedly brand new documentation. I say allegedly because we
Speaker 2: have yet to publicly see it. So they may have
Speaker 2: added to the record here if they're going to reveal
Speaker 2: new FBI documents, right.
Speaker 1: If it's truly stuff that, as you say, was unlest
Speaker 1: already known, I mean, have a coincidence that there's twenty
Speaker 1: five hundred known documents the FBI was withholding. Oh look,
Speaker 1: we found twenty four hundred. Well, golly, that's awful close
Speaker 1: to the twelve five hundred that I've heard cited over
Speaker 1: and over and over again.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 1: Plus I've always heard something about fifteen thousand documents. What's
Speaker 1: that then?
Speaker 2: Well, that was the original pocket of stuff that they
Speaker 2: were supposed to release, but they had to readjust the
Speaker 2: number because the last time when the Biden and Trump
Speaker 2: administrations did a couple of massive document dumps, they released
Speaker 2: a bunch of NSA documentation that wasn't on anybody's list,
Speaker 2: and so there was new NSA stuff that just magically
Speaker 2: appeared in the record. And quite honestly, there's been no
Speaker 2: satisfactory explanation for how that magically appeared. It wasn't planned
Speaker 2: to be released, it wasn't part of the ARRB list
Speaker 2: or anything, and it just peered. So that changed the
Speaker 2: numbers from the fifteen hundred to the twenty five hundred
Speaker 2: or twenty four hundred or whatever. And now we're looking
Speaker 2: at well about five thousand, because you got twenty four
Speaker 2: hundred new ones from the FBI allegedly, and the twenty
Speaker 2: five hundred still as yet withheld from the arrb's work.
Speaker 2: Plus that doesn't account for anything new. That's not even
Speaker 2: new stuff except the FBI maybe. But then again, if
Speaker 2: they're unaware of what was already released, they might be
Speaker 2: releasing redundant crap. And I don't know because I haven't
Speaker 2: seen it yet. You know what I mean. I'm withholding judgment,
Speaker 2: and even Jeff Morley is now saying, you know, hey,
Speaker 2: look calm down, everybody, because nothing new has come out.
Speaker 2: You know, they're having to repeat this over and over again.
Speaker 2: It's getting weird. But look, I don't expect anything to
Speaker 2: happen instantaneously. And look at me. I'm gonna tell you
Speaker 2: be patient with the Trump administration because they can't possibly
Speaker 2: have the ability to dump this stuff out there immediately
Speaker 2: unless there was a whole bunch of planning done in advance.
Speaker 2: So is that true or not?
Speaker 1: Jimmy, Yeah, yes, even if everyone truly intends to find
Speaker 1: these documents, it's going to take years. It'll take twenty years.
Speaker 1: There's stuff literally and safes probably in that god forsake
Speaker 1: of building.
Speaker 2: Well that's the other thing. But the funny part is
Speaker 2: that that twenty five hundred, you know, that that original piece,
Speaker 2: we were waiting for that for more than twenty five years.
Speaker 2: The twenty five year period ended in twenty seventeen, you know,
Speaker 2: so they not only had this for the sixty years
Speaker 2: plus now, but they had it for twenty five years,
Speaker 2: allegedly already having been reviewed, already having been negotiated with
Speaker 2: the different agencies. Give us this, give us that. Oh
Speaker 2: you got to show us why or why not this
Speaker 2: can or can't be released. All that stuff was done
Speaker 2: in the mid nineties, and we waited till twenty seventeen.
Speaker 2: A lot of US researchers waited, waited, waited, can't wait
Speaker 2: till twenty seventeen. We've been saying that since the late nineties,
Speaker 2: and twenty seventeen came. And you've heard me tell that story.
Speaker 2: So what can I tell you? But it is what
Speaker 2: it is. And like I said, Trump kicked the can
Speaker 2: down the road, Biden tried to take the can off
Speaker 2: the road, and that's the way that went for the
Speaker 2: ARB stuff. But the as yet undiscovered god knows what.
Speaker 2: And oh, by the way, where the hell is Gail
Speaker 2: knick Jackson's film? And oh, by the way, how about
Speaker 2: we get those Joe and Edes documents finally, since he's
Speaker 2: been dead for twenty years. You know, come on already, right,
Speaker 2: I mean, let's get to it and get it done.
Speaker 2: And actually, you know, follow what the law says. You know,
Speaker 2: how about that? Can we hold these agencies accountable to
Speaker 2: the legal structure that was there through the JFK Records
Speaker 2: Collection Act. Can we do it? I don't know. We'll see,
Speaker 2: won't we.
Speaker 1: Well, I believe the bureaucracy's being starting to be examined
Speaker 1: pretty thoroughly right now for the first time ever.
Speaker 2: Well, if it's not being examined, it's definitely being at
Speaker 2: least in part dismantled. So it should remove some of
Speaker 2: the red tape somehow.
Speaker 1: Right, Bless people working for that bureaucracies of mighty mighty
Speaker 1: Fine start. Can't argue with you, Yeah, sorry, it's a job. Yeah,
Speaker 1: another one you're crying.
Speaker 2: Yeah, Look, can't argue with you there. I just hope
Speaker 2: they don't get rid of the key people, because there
Speaker 2: are such a thing as key peoples in those bureaucracies.
Speaker 2: But there is a whole lot of people that could
Speaker 2: probably be sent back, And you know, I hope the
Speaker 2: private sector has something for him to do, because I think,
Speaker 2: like I was talking with a caller earlier, we're gonna
Speaker 2: see chat GPT being utilized for a lot of jobs
Speaker 2: pretty soon anyway. So I don't know, somebody's got to
Speaker 2: get to something here anyway. Jimmy, you know what I'm
Speaker 2: gonna do. I'm gonna put you on hold. We got
Speaker 2: a few callers on hold, and UH gonna put you
Speaker 2: to hang there for a minute because I know we
Speaker 2: heard from you. We got a few minutes left, but
Speaker 2: I think I'm gonna take a quick break and see
Speaker 2: if i can get my co host on for the
Speaker 2: last part before we join Aaron Franz in The Age
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Speaker 2: it is, Hi, Vladimir.
Speaker 6: How are we doing under deals that doesn't work that way?
Speaker 6: I'm not align with Putin, I'm not aligned with anybody.
Speaker 10: I'm aligned with the United States of America and for
Speaker 10: the good of the world, I'm aligned with the world,
Speaker 10: and I want to get this thing over with.
Speaker 6: You see the hatred he's got for a Putin. It's
Speaker 6: very tough for me to make a deal with that
Speaker 6: kind of hate. He's got tremendous hatred and I understand that.
Speaker 10: But I can tell you the other side is exactly
Speaker 10: in love.
Speaker 6: With you know himy.
Speaker 2: Their country's been getting pounded for three years. In love
Speaker 2: with it.
Speaker 10: I'm aligned with the world. I want to get the
Speaker 10: things set. I'm aligned with Europe. I want to see
Speaker 10: if we can get this thing done. You want me
Speaker 10: to be tough. I could be tougher than any human
Speaker 10: being you've ever seen.
Speaker 6: I'd be so tough. But you're never going to get
Speaker 6: a deal that way. So that's the way it goes.
Speaker 6: One more question, Hey, I would respond to this.
Speaker 8: So look for four years of the United States of America,
Speaker 8: we had a president who stood up at press conferences
Speaker 8: and talked tough about Vladimir Putin. Putin invaded Ukraine and
Speaker 8: destroyed a significant chunk of the country. The path to
Speaker 8: peace and the path to prosperity is maybe engaging in diplomacy.
Speaker 8: We tried the pathway of Joe Biden, of thumping our
Speaker 8: chest and pretending that the President of the United States's
Speaker 8: words mattered more than the President of the United States's actions.
Speaker 8: What makes America a good country is America engaging in diplomacy.
Speaker 6: That's what President Trump is doing. Can I ask you sure?
Speaker 3: Yeah?
Speaker 5: Yeah, okay, So he occupied it, our parts make parts
Speaker 5: of Ukraine, parts off East and crimea. So he occupied
Speaker 5: it on twenty fifteen. During a lot of years, I'm
Speaker 5: not speaking about just byden but those times was Obama,
Speaker 5: then President Obama, then President Trump, then President Biden, now
Speaker 5: President Trump and God bless now President Trump will stop him.
Speaker 5: But during twenty fifteen, nobody stopped him. He just occupied
Speaker 5: and took He killed people. You know what the contact
Speaker 5: twenty fifteen, twenty.
Speaker 6: Twenty fourty so how would he kills that here? Yeah?
Speaker 5: By the second yes, But during twenty fourteen till twenty
Speaker 5: twenty two, you know what, the situation the same that
Speaker 5: people have been dying on the contact line.
Speaker 6: Nobody stopped him.
Speaker 5: You know that we had conversations with him, a lot
Speaker 5: of conversations, my elateral conversation, and we signed.
Speaker 6: With him, me like a you president.
Speaker 5: In twenty nineteen, I signed with him the deal I
Speaker 5: signed with him. Macron and Mayor kill we signed ceasefire, ceasefire.
Speaker 5: All of them told me that he will never go.
Speaker 5: We signed him with guess contract. Guess contract, yes, But
Speaker 5: after that he broken this his fire. He killed a
Speaker 5: lot of people, and he didn't exchange prisoners. We signed
Speaker 5: the exchange of prisons, but.
Speaker 6: He didn't do it.
Speaker 5: What kind of diplomacy jg us Pcambo what what do
Speaker 5: you what do you mean?
Speaker 8: I'm talking about the kind of diplomacy that's going to
Speaker 8: end the destruction of your country. Yes, but President, mister President,
Speaker 8: with respect, I think it's disrespectful for you to come
Speaker 8: into the Oval Office to try to litigate this in
Speaker 8: front of the American media. Right now, you guys are
Speaker 8: going around and forcing conscripts to the front lines because
Speaker 8: you have manpower problems.
Speaker 3: You should be.
Speaker 8: Thanking the president for them trying to bring it into
Speaker 8: this content into.
Speaker 6: Ukraine that you say, what problems we have?
Speaker 8: I have been to I've actually I've actually watched and
Speaker 8: seen the stories, and I know what happens is you
Speaker 8: bring people, you bring them on.
Speaker 6: A propaganda tour.
Speaker 8: Mister President, are do you disagree that you've had problems
Speaker 8: like bringing people in your military have brand?
Speaker 6: Do you think that suspect for holdons to come to
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Speaker 8: The United States of America and attack the administration that
Speaker 8: is trying to trying to prevent the destruction of your
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Speaker 2: Okay, final open mic night, you know, segment here on
Speaker 2: the Friday night open Mic Show, and we're gonna get
Speaker 2: to Aaron Franz on the Age of Transitions coming up
Speaker 2: at ten pm Eastern or thereabouts. Anyway. What I want
Speaker 2: to do first, though, is go back to the phone lines,
Speaker 2: take a look, see who's there, and whoever's there can
Speaker 2: join us live again. It looks like only Jimmy James
Speaker 2: has remained. I guess he's the only one who wanted
Speaker 2: to get in some final words this week, so we'll
Speaker 2: give it to him. I never did catch back up
Speaker 2: with b Pete. I guess he didn't make it home
Speaker 2: in time. Hopefully all is well and he'll be okay
Speaker 2: and with us next week. Guess we'll see. But be
Speaker 2: Pete brother, hope you're doing good. And Jimmy James, I
Speaker 2: hope you're doing good too. You're back to the open
Speaker 2: mic and you're the only caller that remained on the line.
Speaker 2: Anybody could join us three one nine five two seven
Speaker 2: five zero one six. There's a few minutes left, and
Speaker 2: I'll give you priority if you join us here at
Speaker 2: the end. Three one nine five two seven five zero
Speaker 2: one six.
Speaker 22: Jimmy, any thoughts, Yes, I miss uncle and his show,
Speaker 22: so I'm gonna make this complain on your show.
Speaker 1: I think it is outrageous what the Rams are doing
Speaker 1: is doing to Matthew Stafford.
Speaker 2: Oh what happened?
Speaker 1: They're gonna trade him to them Jets. They're gonna trade
Speaker 1: him to the Jets for that. Aaron Rodgers. Oh, really,
Speaker 1: shame on the Rams for treat Matthew Stafford that way.
Speaker 2: Well, explain to me what the I don't know who
Speaker 2: Matthew Stafford is I don't know anything about it. Tell
Speaker 2: me what the travesty is, please.
Speaker 1: Okay, Matthew Stafford was a longtime quarterback for the Lions
Speaker 1: and then he got traded to the Rams and we
Speaker 1: took their quarterback. Matthew Stafford won them a Super Bowl
Speaker 1: ring like in twenty twenty.
Speaker 2: Wow, Okay, the.
Speaker 1: Year right after they got him. We're still working with
Speaker 1: their guy and we're doing pretty good. And I just
Speaker 1: think it's pretty disrespectful of the Rams to be trying
Speaker 1: to pawn them off to the Jets to get that
Speaker 1: old broken down Aaron Rodgers, you're going to get the
Speaker 1: same results.
Speaker 2: You know. Aaron Rodgers is what the hot potato in
Speaker 2: the NFL? Right? Why? What is the big problem or
Speaker 2: plus with him? What is the big deal? I mean
Speaker 2: that anybody's career goes to the Jets to die. It's
Speaker 2: like the Mets, as soon as they get them, that's
Speaker 2: the end of their All Star or you know, Pro
Speaker 2: Bowl power. So what's the deal is Aaron Rodgers like
Speaker 2: tanked with the Jets too, and now they figure they'll
Speaker 2: rehab them with the Rams. I mean, is that what
Speaker 2: the idea is here?
Speaker 1: All the Jets don't want them. He's been with them
Speaker 1: for two seasons. He didn't even play the first season.
Speaker 1: The second season was crap.
Speaker 2: Well, you know what all I got to say about
Speaker 2: Jets and Mets, and notice they rhyme is Bobby Bonia.
Speaker 2: That is my whole statement about that. You get a
Speaker 2: guy who you think is an all star one way
Speaker 2: or another, and as soon as he's playing for the
Speaker 2: Jets or the Mets, it's all over, baby. And maybe
Speaker 2: Aaron Rodgers will have a career with the Rams. I mean,
Speaker 2: do you think that's a bad thing or you don't care,
Speaker 2: or do you think he's a bust? At this?
Speaker 1: Matthew Stafford and Aaron Rodgers are the same. They're both
Speaker 1: old guy quarterbacks. So they're swapping just disrespectful to Stafford.
Speaker 2: So you think they're just swapping problem for problem. But
Speaker 2: they should really hang on to him with the Rams
Speaker 2: because he at least got him a ring. Is that
Speaker 2: the idea.
Speaker 1: I would for as long as Stafford wanted. He's probably
Speaker 1: only going to play one more season. I mean, but
Speaker 1: now they've already kind of made it publicly known they
Speaker 1: don't want them no more, just like the Jets has
Speaker 1: done to Aaron Rodgers, and I think there's nothing's been
Speaker 1: said officially yet, but I'm pretty sure that's what they're
Speaker 1: up to. They want the Rams, want to trade the Jets.
Speaker 2: Okay, quarterbacks.
Speaker 1: They want to do another switchy.
Speaker 2: Hey, look fair enough, I guess. But you know, it's weird.
Speaker 2: I think there should be some loyalty in sports. But
Speaker 2: isn't the day of loyalty to teams like a past,
Speaker 2: you know, because didn't some basketball player recently just jump
Speaker 2: ship to some other team? They are like, people are going,
Speaker 2: holy crap, this guy went to Golden State or whatever.
Speaker 2: And anyway, I don't know much about it, but I
Speaker 2: do see another caller and I'm gonna grab them on
Speaker 2: the line. I think it might have been a caller
Speaker 2: from earlier, but I'm just gonna leave you on the
Speaker 2: line with them and see what happens here. And I'm
Speaker 2: pretty sure this is ed again, isn't it?
Speaker 5: Oh?
Speaker 11: It is?
Speaker 19: Yeah, I didn't. I hung up because my landline phone
Speaker 19: cordless one. The battery dies really quick and it was
Speaker 19: starting to beep at me and it doesn't work right now,
Speaker 19: So I went to the flip phone.
Speaker 2: Well that's cool, Hey, you got anything to say about
Speaker 2: this Rams. You got anything to say about this Rams
Speaker 2: Jets thing that Jimmy James brought up? Totally different topic,
Speaker 2: And to tell you the truth, I'm almost starting to
Speaker 2: feel like I should start talking sports on here, you know,
Speaker 2: when uncle's not around anyway.
Speaker 19: Yeah, I got nothing on that.
Speaker 2: I'm sorry. Okay, I'm sorry. I just thought maybe, yeah.
Speaker 19: Go ahead, I got yeah. No, hey man, baseball season
Speaker 19: starts in less than a month. Now, that's all I
Speaker 19: care about.
Speaker 2: Okay, So who is who's the hot baseball players coming
Speaker 2: up this year? I mean, what about the great, you know,
Speaker 2: home run hitting pitcher. How's he doing out there in LA?
Speaker 2: Is he still doing good?
Speaker 19: Yeah? Well, you know they haven't started yet, but they
Speaker 19: they're speculating he will start pitching by me, not the
Speaker 19: first month, but by May. They're hoping to have him
Speaker 19: back from his Tommy John and in the rotation.
Speaker 2: Yeah. Well, with those kind of guys got you gotta
Speaker 2: let him settle in. I mean, look, even if he's
Speaker 2: not a successful pitcher anymore, though, imagine this. Maybe you
Speaker 2: got a d h that you can also throw out
Speaker 2: of the bullpen once in a while, you know what
Speaker 2: I mean? Out of the.
Speaker 19: Bullpen, or maybe he could play left field now and
Speaker 19: then they've even talked about that he used to play
Speaker 19: in the outfield, so he might be able to you know,
Speaker 19: sub out there sometimes. But I'm hoping he's still an
Speaker 19: ace pitcher, man, I want to. I love the idea
Speaker 19: of that, you know, but listen, I love itches in.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, I love the idea of Babe Ruth,
Speaker 2: you know, reading about him and saying to myself, why
Speaker 2: the hell didn't they still keep him as a pitcher?
Speaker 2: Oh right, because he wouldn't be able to bat right
Speaker 2: and he wouldn't be in the game every single day.
Speaker 2: I mean, this is what the problem was, why they
Speaker 2: turned him into what they turned him into, Babe Ruth? Right? Yeah. Yeah.
Speaker 2: But but now now my understanding is they're bringing the
Speaker 2: DH to both leagues like it's going to be a
Speaker 2: permanent thing in both leagues? Now, Is that true? Yeah?
Speaker 19: It already is now, yeah, clears in the National League.
Speaker 11: Now.
Speaker 19: I think that's why the Dodgers went in Gottotonic, because well,
Speaker 19: we got the DH, now let's bend and get him.
Speaker 2: You know. Well see, now what's weird about that to
Speaker 2: me is that I hadn't watched baseball for a few years,
Speaker 2: but but I do watch the playoffs all the time,
Speaker 2: so I never know about this DH rule. But I'm
Speaker 2: sad about the DH being everywhere. But anyway, Jimmy, James,
Speaker 2: you got anything to say about this because we're almost
Speaker 2: out of time for the night.
Speaker 1: Nope, everyone have a good one piece.
Speaker 2: All right, Jimmy. Look, I appreciate you calling in. I
Speaker 2: definitely appreciate the change up in the conversation. That was great. Uh,
Speaker 2: and love it when you call in. Anyway, we got
Speaker 2: to get more of your perspective on these things as
Speaker 2: they emerged, for sure, and I'm sure by next week
Speaker 2: we'll have more to talk about because I guarantee you
Speaker 2: there's gonna be some fallout from this Zelensky thing later.
Speaker 2: But appreciate you, Jimmy. Can't wait to hear from you
Speaker 2: again soon. And oh oh, one quick note, Jimmy, guess
Speaker 2: what a book showed up at my house?
Speaker 1: Are you kidding me? The thing was mailed like three
Speaker 1: months ago.
Speaker 2: I'm just telling you what happened. Brother. I don't you know,
Speaker 2: I got no reason to make this up. It just
Speaker 2: showed up and I don't even know why and really yeah,
Speaker 2: and the box was damaged a whole bit. So I
Speaker 2: don't know what the hell happened to this book.
Speaker 1: But wait a man, wait man, wait man, I didn't
Speaker 1: send it in a box. I sent it in a
Speaker 1: white envelope.
Speaker 2: Well it was. It arrived to me in a box
Speaker 2: and a bat. Okay, it was busted open according to
Speaker 2: the note, and that's that. It had one of those
Speaker 2: red notes in it that said this was damaged as
Speaker 2: it was sent and boom, it showed up in a box.
Speaker 1: And all it is is just a book called The Builders, Right.
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's it. It looks almost like a nineteen sixties
Speaker 2: kind of cartoony looking cover, like a lot of books
Speaker 2: did back then. There was a certain style to books
Speaker 2: in the sixties and seventies. You know what I'm talking about, right, Yeah,
Speaker 2: that book's finally showed up appears to be in one piece.
Speaker 2: But apparently the packaging did not make it here in
Speaker 2: one piece, because you're telling me it was in a bag.
Speaker 2: I got in a box with a bag around it
Speaker 2: and a note.
Speaker 1: So I just mailed in a simple, big white envelope
Speaker 1: that they provided. Well, somebody highly unusual.
Speaker 2: Well I'm just telling you somebody or a machine decided
Speaker 2: to rip that thing open and destroy it and pretty
Speaker 2: much send me a box. Okay, I'm just telling you
Speaker 2: what happened. And you see how long it took. All right,
Speaker 2: So I don't know why I can't I know it.
Speaker 1: I know it's not the problems that post office.
Speaker 2: Yeah, but only between you and see but only between
Speaker 2: you and me.
Speaker 16: Ed.
Speaker 2: You have sent me books. I've gotten them in the
Speaker 2: packaging you sent them in. I'm just saying from Washington,
Speaker 2: I get the book. From Michigan, I get god knows
Speaker 2: what if it bothers to show up. And I've also
Speaker 2: sent things to Jimmy James and boxes that never arrived
Speaker 2: that I have no explanation for.
Speaker 19: Yeah, I think, uh, you know, it costs more. But
Speaker 19: I do think that that the priority boxes have a
Speaker 19: better chance. Not that they'll always make it, but I
Speaker 19: do think they're more scrutinized, maybe more of a record
Speaker 19: behind them.
Speaker 2: No, if I've heard that, if I said there.
Speaker 19: Are in the post office, you know that they're like
Speaker 19: theft rings within the post office, whether it's true or not.
Speaker 19: And you know they can tell if there's money, they
Speaker 19: can tell, they whatever, and so, but I think that
Speaker 19: the priority boxes are a little safer.
Speaker 2: Yeah, they busted whatever, they busted one in Georgia just
Speaker 2: this week, a theft ring, but it wasn't in my
Speaker 2: post office. So I'm just saying it happens between me
Speaker 2: and Jimmy James. Something weird happens anyway, guys, A lot
Speaker 2: of weird things are happening out there, and it is
Speaker 2: what it is. So here's what I'm gonna do. I'm
Speaker 2: gonna cut the phone lines free and tell you that
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