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<v Speaker 1>Get ready for.

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<v Speaker 2>Twenty eighth day of February twenty twenty five, allegedly according

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<v Speaker 2>to that thing we call a calendar, and this is

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<v Speaker 2>the o'celli effect, alive on a Frisday Friday night, for sure.

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<v Speaker 2>How do I know that? Because I just looked at

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<v Speaker 2>a calendar. How do you know that it's allegedly that

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<v Speaker 2>date and day and all that good stuff. And it's

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<v Speaker 2>about ten minutes after eight pm Eastern hearing what we

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<v Speaker 2>used to call America. My co host is late to

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<v Speaker 2>the mic, and the skype was late in sending me

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<v Speaker 2>his message. I take a sip of my drink and

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<v Speaker 2>tell you that I was waiting for him and trying

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<v Speaker 2>to message him right around eight pm and didn't see

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<v Speaker 2>any messages from him, didn't see anything, didn't see his

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<v Speaker 2>b peatch video of the week in the chat room,

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<v Speaker 2>none of that stuff that he usually does. By the way,

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<v Speaker 2>if you hear this as a podcast, which very few

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<v Speaker 2>of you do, but those of you the two, hey,

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<v Speaker 2>it's available and it is live on Friday nights, usually

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<v Speaker 2>a little bit after eight pm Eastern. We start and

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<v Speaker 2>we have the Age of Transitions coming up at ten

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<v Speaker 2>pm Eastern. I have no idea if the Uncle Show

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<v Speaker 2>will be on at eleven, But either way, I know

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<v Speaker 2>it's going to be an interesting time with Aaron Franz

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<v Speaker 2>at ten pm Eastern. Anyhow, all the way up until then,

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<v Speaker 2>we're taking your calls, so by all means join me.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't have my co host with me. I can

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<v Speaker 2>talk about stuff and maybe play an audio clip if

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<v Speaker 2>I feel like it, because it was kind of an

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<v Speaker 2>eventful day in the land of audio clips and especially politics.

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<v Speaker 2>Trump told Zelensky off in front of the whole world,

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<v Speaker 2>you have none of the cards. You have none of

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<v Speaker 2>the cards. We have all the cards, and you don't

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<v Speaker 2>know what you're talking about, and you're disrespectful. And even

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<v Speaker 2>though I have the year wrong about when you were

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<v Speaker 2>invaded in Crimea, I know what year it was. It

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<v Speaker 2>was a weird time in the White House. And one

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<v Speaker 2>has to under forget about whether this is good or

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<v Speaker 2>oh he was disrespecting America. Trump said, also, one has

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<v Speaker 2>to wonder forget about respect or what he should say

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<v Speaker 2>in front of I mean, he's the one who staged

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<v Speaker 2>this whole thing. To put Zelensky in front of the camera.

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<v Speaker 2>Is not a private meeting to start with. He did that,

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<v Speaker 2>so that's on him, But the idea, I don't care about,

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<v Speaker 2>none of that crap or any of the rest of

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<v Speaker 2>the stage theater. One does wonder, however, what kind of

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<v Speaker 2>an effect that might have on European allies who are

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<v Speaker 2>looking for business as usual and definitely not getting it

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<v Speaker 2>this way, pretty much spouting and belting out all of

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<v Speaker 2>the Putin talking points. And don't forget, little boy, the

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<v Speaker 2>only reason why your country still exists is because America

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<v Speaker 2>gave you weapons. I tried to explain this to people

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<v Speaker 2>that were not happy with the level of support I

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<v Speaker 2>gave to the idea that I think Ukraine should be

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<v Speaker 2>allowed to exist, you know, And I got fired for that,

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<v Speaker 2>and I got trumble that, and I lost money for that,

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<v Speaker 2>and I know that people on the ground are suffering there. Literally.

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<v Speaker 2>I brought that guy Emir on the show to show

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<v Speaker 2>everybody how bad it was, and I put him on

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<v Speaker 2>that T and T radio abomination over there, which by

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<v Speaker 2>the way, now exists under a whole new rebranding. And

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<v Speaker 2>I wonder if they paid all their debts and if

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<v Speaker 2>they've still got that money flowing in, you know, right

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<v Speaker 2>around the time they were saying that people were getting

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<v Speaker 2>money from Russian outlets, which they did. And interesting how

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<v Speaker 2>a lot of Russian outlets were paying English speaking media

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<v Speaker 2>people to do propaganda, because guess what, every government pays

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<v Speaker 2>for some propaganda somewhere unless they have a fully captured

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<v Speaker 2>state media to do it for them. And then when

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<v Speaker 2>they have a fully captured state media that absolutely will

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<v Speaker 2>not speak poorly about great leader or anything like that.

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<v Speaker 2>Everything is wonderful here in our country. It doesn't matter

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<v Speaker 2>if people are suffering and dying. That doesn't actually exist.

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<v Speaker 2>We live forever here and we are better than every

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<v Speaker 2>other nation on the planet. People repeat that stuff in

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<v Speaker 2>other countries in their language, obviously not in English generally,

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<v Speaker 2>because you know, in Britain you're just simply not allowed

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<v Speaker 2>to criticize the royal family. And interesting what a day

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<v Speaker 2>makes One day, we got President Trump receiving a letter

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<v Speaker 2>from King Chorles, and I featured that on the podcast

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<v Speaker 2>last night and tried to, you know, make a point

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<v Speaker 2>that nobody caught so far. Anybody who's downloaded either one

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<v Speaker 2>of the two podcasts from yesterday apparently did not understand

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<v Speaker 2>the point of what I was doing last night at all,

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<v Speaker 2>which is beautiful because that is the world in which

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<v Speaker 2>I exist. Now, nobody understands what I'm trying to say

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<v Speaker 2>or why. You know, they hear something, Oh, that sounds

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<v Speaker 2>anti Trump, he must be a liberal. Then they hear

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<v Speaker 2>stuff that sounds pro Trump, and they go, he must

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<v Speaker 2>be one of those conservative guys. And I get much

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<v Speaker 2>less of that pushback, because, again, at least on the

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<v Speaker 2>alleged conservative end of things, people are organized and sort

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<v Speaker 2>of unified, actually behave as though they have a coherent idea.

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<v Speaker 2>The alleged left in this country has no left number one.

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<v Speaker 2>There's nothing really leftist about it. It's just another corporatist,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, greed filled foreign influence operation. And they're not

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<v Speaker 2>even cohering about it. They stand in circular firing squads,

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<v Speaker 2>constantly tearing each other down. Poor poor Al Franken, who

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<v Speaker 2>might have made jokes and pictures about maybe feeling up

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<v Speaker 2>a girl while she was sleeping when he was a comedian,

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<v Speaker 2>before he was a congressperson or a senator or whatever.

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<v Speaker 2>He had to resign. Nobody else does. Doesn't matter what

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<v Speaker 2>their money making scheme is, horrible crap they do, no

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<v Speaker 2>matter if they grab whoever by the whatever or you know,

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<v Speaker 2>Joe Biden sniffing hair. I mean, we've got nothing but

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<v Speaker 2>the cacistocracy to offer you, But you can choose a

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<v Speaker 2>brand for a moment. America is just wonderful. No, Nope,

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<v Speaker 2>I'm telling you you don't have any of the cards.

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<v Speaker 2>If you have none of the cards, and you're disrespecting America,

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<v Speaker 2>and you should say, thank you, dous what foreign country?

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<v Speaker 2>You know? What? How come the Prime Minister of Israel

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<v Speaker 2>is not thanking us every single day for the money

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<v Speaker 2>we're sending him. I'm just asking, just asking a question.

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<v Speaker 2>You're picking on Israel, You're anti Semitic. Maybe I'll use

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<v Speaker 2>just the Trump voice from now on. I think that

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<v Speaker 2>would make some people happy when they want to tear

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<v Speaker 2>at me for being a liberal or a libtard or whatever.

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<v Speaker 2>I'll just use the Trump voice. You were obviously too

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<v Speaker 2>stupid to understand. And by the way, last year, weren't

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<v Speaker 2>they trying to say that it was part of a

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<v Speaker 2>Zionist conspiracy? Is Lynsky and all that. Meanwhile, again, my

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<v Speaker 2>unique stupid perspective that is apparently completely beyond anybody's understanding

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<v Speaker 2>is that two game show hosts met in ugly yellow

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<v Speaker 2>chairs and one yelled at the other because he thought

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<v Speaker 2>he could. I seriously hope that during this guy's administration

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<v Speaker 2>there is no need for us to ask for any

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<v Speaker 2>sort of foreign assistance from anybody. Cause, you know, even

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<v Speaker 2>after nine to eleven, when we were scrambling because of

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<v Speaker 2>the stupidity of our national security apparatus and all that

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<v Speaker 2>good stuff, we did get foreign help there to try

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<v Speaker 2>and secure things and make sure that there wasn't going

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<v Speaker 2>to be a greater attack on us. Oh and the

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<v Speaker 2>other thing that was funny about this Zelenski meeting. The

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<v Speaker 2>other bullet point, I don't even know what they're pointing

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<v Speaker 2>out on the news because I can't watch the analysis

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<v Speaker 2>any longer. I saw hyperbolic, immediate yelling about how dare

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<v Speaker 2>anybody criticize Trump for what he just said. He's saying

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<v Speaker 2>all the right things. Okay, I guess if you feel

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<v Speaker 2>that way, And then other idiots thinking that this is

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<v Speaker 2>supposed to be taken seriously. Oh my god, I could

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<v Speaker 2>believe that he just violated protocol. Look, I'm not ready

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<v Speaker 2>to bow to a king. And I thought we fought

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<v Speaker 2>a war over that, you know, just say, and one

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<v Speaker 2>of those ones that none of my parents or grandparents

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<v Speaker 2>served in because we weren't here in this country just yet,

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<v Speaker 2>but paid no attention to the facts. Facts don't matter anyway.

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<v Speaker 2>It is what it is. I want to hear from

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<v Speaker 2>you guys tonight and get your point of view. And

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<v Speaker 2>you don't got to talk to me about Trump. We

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<v Speaker 2>could talk about anything. You want to go over to

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<v Speaker 2>the latest TV series that you've been watching, tell me

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<v Speaker 2>about it. I need some new entertainment because these clowns

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<v Speaker 2>in Washington are not entertaining yet. That entertainment is going

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<v Speaker 2>to begin when people realize what they've just done. Oh

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<v Speaker 2>the other Zelensky point before I give out the numbers,

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<v Speaker 2>was Zelenski trying to say, you know, you're not feeling

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<v Speaker 2>the effects of anything in Europe right now because you're

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<v Speaker 2>protected by your ocean. Now he's referencing something that Trump

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<v Speaker 2>has said many times, but we have an ocean in between.

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<v Speaker 2>It doesn't matter to us. What goes on in Europe

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<v Speaker 2>is irrelevant to us. Not all for the global control.

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<v Speaker 2>But you got to recognize we are all on the

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<v Speaker 2>same planet. And I'm telling you this planet got a

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<v Speaker 2>lot smaller with mass transportation and communication. But again, reality

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<v Speaker 2>is not meant for everybody who's unreal. The thing is

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<v Speaker 2>he's saying, look, man, you're gonna feel some kind of

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<v Speaker 2>effect from this, one way or another. This will influence events.

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<v Speaker 2>And he never got to finish it because Trump was like,

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<v Speaker 2>you're very disrespectful. You have no right to tell us

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<v Speaker 2>what we're gonna feel in the United States. I mean,

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<v Speaker 2>it was the weirdest thing. If you break down that interaction,

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<v Speaker 2>it was very strange. And why he put that. Remember this,

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<v Speaker 2>it's Trump and Trump's people who put this on display.

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<v Speaker 2>They chose to have that meeting, which is in the

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<v Speaker 2>you know, broadcast setup. They chose who was gonna sit

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<v Speaker 2>around on the couches surrounding the ugly yellow chairs, and

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<v Speaker 2>they set it up just like they wanted to show

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<v Speaker 2>with all gravitas. The fact that the King said, nice letter.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, I was sitting there wondering with Trump fall

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<v Speaker 2>in love again with the new letters from the King Charles.

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<v Speaker 2>I tell you, if this is my selection for who

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<v Speaker 2>I can fall in love with and who's going to

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<v Speaker 2>write letters to me, I don't know if I might

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<v Speaker 2>not have to just castrate myself because I'm not falling

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<v Speaker 2>in love with either. King Charles with the weird ears,

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<v Speaker 2>the inbreeding and the gogothin whatever the hell German blood

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<v Speaker 2>he's got going on there, and maybe they are reptiles.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't know, David Ike, go ask him. But the

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<v Speaker 2>point is between that and that weird Korean fire hydrant

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<v Speaker 2>called Kim Jong un, who's only ruling that country because

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<v Speaker 2>his dead grandfather is actually still the head of that country.

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<v Speaker 2>Look it up if you don't believe me, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>in weirdness and competing with his strange sister and god

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<v Speaker 2>knows what, and was about ready to really get serious

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<v Speaker 2>with us with weapons when they put out a movie

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<v Speaker 2>about people interviewing him and then assassinating him as a comedy.

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<v Speaker 2>If you forgot about the Sony hacked from what was

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<v Speaker 2>that ten years ago? Now ten twelve years ago? Holy crap,

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<v Speaker 2>it's been a while. But he was upset about that

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<v Speaker 2>and literally like making threats openly about I need to

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<v Speaker 2>like do something. And then Sony got hacked by allegedly

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<v Speaker 2>Korean hackers, right, didn't They get hacked? And then a

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<v Speaker 2>bunch of their movies came out and a whole bunch

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<v Speaker 2>of stuff spilled out on the internet, and people found

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<v Speaker 2>out how badly they were getting screwed in their show

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<v Speaker 2>biz contracts. A whole bunch of mess happened out of that.

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<v Speaker 2>But what was anything politically significant? And did we nearly

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<v Speaker 2>go to war? Well, you know how the best functioning,

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<v Speaker 2>because you're at war and you'd be out of there

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<v Speaker 2>in three days without us. Obama gave you blankets. Now

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<v Speaker 2>here's the illogic of that statement, just on the face

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<v Speaker 2>how did he survive during those two time periods his country?

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<v Speaker 2>Really because he only got in there. And what around

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<v Speaker 2>the same time Trump did? Right what year was it

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<v Speaker 2>that he was playing the piano with his penis on

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<v Speaker 2>Ukrainian TV? I forget, but I did watch that series

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<v Speaker 2>translated that he did, that TV series about him becoming

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<v Speaker 2>president and then lo and behold he became president. Look, Ukraine,

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<v Speaker 2>I feel for the people that are suffering. I really do.

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<v Speaker 2>And I'm not allowed to even talk about that because

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<v Speaker 2>And I know, I know, I'm supposed to only side

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<v Speaker 2>with Putin. I don't know when that became a conservative

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<v Speaker 2>talking point, but it is. Anyway, Trump is doing that,

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<v Speaker 2>literally belting out stuff, and he's talking about cards. You

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<v Speaker 2>don't have any of the cards. We have all the cards.

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<v Speaker 2>You'd have cards if you wanted to come to the

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<v Speaker 2>and we'd be there with you. And the Ukrainian president

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<v Speaker 2>literally was trying to mister president, mister president, Look, I'm

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<v Speaker 2>not playing cards. I'm at war. He tried to say that.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't know if they're going to show you that

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<v Speaker 2>on the close captions, but I heard him say it

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<v Speaker 2>in English pretty clearly. Anyway, I'm not saying that this

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<v Speaker 2>they dumped out the Epstein files today, right, did anybody

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<v Speaker 2>pay attention to that. Excuse me, I didn't do that

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<v Speaker 2>that horrible hocking up noise on purpose. That's just something

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<v Speaker 2>that happens to me now and then. But Pam Bondi

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<v Speaker 2>allegedly was gonna drop a whole slew of a treasured

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<v Speaker 2>of information on epstein is Victims Rape Island everything and

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<v Speaker 2>reveal all the names. And I'm still searching around for it.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't see the big drop. I mean, I saw

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<v Speaker 2>one article describe it as the big flop, but I'm

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<v Speaker 2>not going on that article. I want to see the stuff.

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<v Speaker 2>Where's it at? You guys have it, I mean, drop

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<v Speaker 2>it in the chatroom at O'Kelly dot com. Do it

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<v Speaker 2>and call in. Let me know where you're at. Please

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<v Speaker 2>let me know where you're at here on O'Kelly dot com.

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<v Speaker 2>Today as I speak, and you know what, I see

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<v Speaker 2>a caller and I'm bringing them on. I have no idea.

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<v Speaker 2>It looks like they're calling from I guess that's Florida. Okay,

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<v Speaker 2>So I have that caller and I got another one

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<v Speaker 2>Florida caller and they're first in line anyway, But by

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<v Speaker 2>all means, call in three one nine, five two seven

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<v Speaker 2>five zero one six. That is the number to call in.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm sure my coast will join me as soon as

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<v Speaker 2>he can get his butt home because he's on the road.

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<v Speaker 2>From what I understand now, Skype delayed then, Johnny, but

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<v Speaker 2>me without bpede here if you like. Three one nine

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<v Speaker 2>five two seven five zero one six. Now let's go

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<v Speaker 2>to this caller from Florida. You're live and drop anything

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<v Speaker 2>on the table and we'll discuss it. Man, what's up? Check?

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<v Speaker 3>How you doing tonight?

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<v Speaker 4>Man?

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<v Speaker 2>I'm doing okay. Wait, that voice sounds familiar.

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<v Speaker 5>It is.

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<v Speaker 3>It's been a little while.

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<v Speaker 2>It's been quite a while, I.

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<v Speaker 4>Think it is.

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<v Speaker 3>I've been busy. It's probably I've been It's been my

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<v Speaker 3>intention to call it, but actually it probably been a

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<v Speaker 3>couple months. But yeah, this is Chris.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah I thought so, Chris from Florida. Love hearing from you.

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<v Speaker 2>How is the open air in saying asylum? That is Florida,

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<v Speaker 2>my friend. I mean, I'm always gonna call it that

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<v Speaker 2>because no matter what wacky stuff happens there. But what's

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<v Speaker 2>on your mind tonight?

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<v Speaker 4>Man?

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<v Speaker 2>Anything you want to throw on the table. It's all yours.

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<v Speaker 3>Well to me, or you know that the whole you know,

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<v Speaker 3>I'd watched see the meeting with Zelenski, you know, a

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<v Speaker 3>little while ago, you know, at least parts of it,

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<v Speaker 3>and you know, after I'd got home this evening and

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<v Speaker 3>this the health the whole thing seems scripted to me. Okay,

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<v Speaker 3>I just can't can't help get around that. Nothing seems

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, Now I don't listen, I don't disagree with you,

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<v Speaker 2>and it is a staged event anyway, even if even

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<v Speaker 2>if you don't go you know, tinfoil hat, we all

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<v Speaker 2>know this is a stage. Oh no, no, cool, you

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<v Speaker 2>can do that. But I'm saying, even without the tinfoil hat,

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<v Speaker 2>you got to know it's a staged event. They set

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<v Speaker 2>these things up so they got the fireplace in the background,

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<v Speaker 2>and you know, they got there both flanked by important

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<v Speaker 2>people that have something to say, might jump in. Right,

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<v Speaker 2>It's perfectly staged and this is the way of doing

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<v Speaker 2>business in the White House. And that's all cool, But

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<v Speaker 2>to say that it's scripted is another level. Now I'm curious,

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<v Speaker 2>like your first was it your immediate impression this is

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<v Speaker 2>scripted or did you have to let it roll around

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<v Speaker 2>a little bit and say this is a script and

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<v Speaker 2>what do you think of the script.

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<v Speaker 3>That's a pretty lame step, to my opinion, and I

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<v Speaker 3>saw it immediately. I think Trump, out of between the

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<v Speaker 3>three of them, was the best actor.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah. Jd.

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<v Speaker 3>Vance was a little lacking and his performance Zulensky terrible. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 3>he should sick with the penises? What's you a penis piano?

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<v Speaker 3>Which I believe that was twenty sixteen when that aired?

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<v Speaker 2>What was that twenty sixteen? Think okay, maybe it was

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<v Speaker 2>totally okay, cool, No, that was on some game show

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<v Speaker 2>that wasn't even his main TV show, right, but he

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<v Speaker 2>was a stand up comedian and a reality show host.

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<v Speaker 2>As I understood it, which is, you know, these guys

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<v Speaker 2>should have common beyond I'm thinking. But yeah, jd. Vance

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<v Speaker 2>was not impressive in this discussion where he's like and

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<v Speaker 2>he's the one I think who brought up initially the

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<v Speaker 2>whole year showing disrespect to the cunt, which I didn't

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<v Speaker 2>quite understand, like there was disrespect because he's not saying

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<v Speaker 2>thank you. I mean, is that where we're at? Now

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<v Speaker 2>with this, you know you need to thank us one

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<v Speaker 2>way or another, because we're giving you a It's not

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<v Speaker 2>a strategic consideration for us. We're not doing it out

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<v Speaker 2>of the kindness of our hearts. We're certainly not doing

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<v Speaker 2>it because it might be advantageous for us to have

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<v Speaker 2>a country that might be grateful to us in some

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<v Speaker 2>way in that position, or to give us over the

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<v Speaker 2>rare elements that they're saying. See, that's the new thing,

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<v Speaker 2>right is that Trump's like, look, we're gonna strip my

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<v Speaker 2>Ukraine whatever's left of it anyway, because he's already made

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<v Speaker 2>it a point that most of the buildings are knocked down,

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<v Speaker 2>the infrastructure is now Swiss cheese, and the people have

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<v Speaker 2>been decimated one way or another, either militarily directly or

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<v Speaker 2>a lot of guys left the country. Remember, So, I mean,

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<v Speaker 2>you got a place that's been beat on now for

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<v Speaker 2>nearly is it three years? Has been three years of.

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<v Speaker 3>Ukraine and Chris, oh, it's been somewhere nearly three years, right,

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<v Speaker 3>It's been too long to remember at this.

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<v Speaker 2>Point, right, And this tells you there we go. This

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<v Speaker 2>tells you that that is a long standing by the way,

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<v Speaker 2>I got this loose wire over here for some reason.

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<v Speaker 2>I've had to hit it a few times just to

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<v Speaker 2>get it back on track, and I'm gonna have to

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<v Speaker 2>replace it at some point. But anyway, I've also got

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<v Speaker 2>a dead keyboard. So don't don't ask me to type

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<v Speaker 2>back to you guys. Not you, Chris. I'm just letting

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<v Speaker 2>you guys know out there. I'm not gonna be in

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<v Speaker 2>the chat that heavily here tonight anyway. But my point is,

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<v Speaker 2>this is a rough situation. This guy's at war. And

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<v Speaker 2>how many times did Trump say, you don't have any cards?

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<v Speaker 2>We have both the cards. You'd have cards, You could

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<v Speaker 2>come to the table, you could have cards if you

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<v Speaker 2>just agreed with us. And I'm watching this and I'm going, yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>I believe this is Trump thinking off the I don't

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<v Speaker 2>think Trump's reading the script, Chris. I got a little

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<v Speaker 2>problem there. That sounds like his normal flow, his normal

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<v Speaker 2>like intellectual flow. It does seem natural for him. I

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<v Speaker 2>gotta say, what do you think of that?

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<v Speaker 3>I'm trying to keep it somewhat pg Uh. You know,

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<v Speaker 3>I don't know what direction to take it. I mean,

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<v Speaker 3>like I said, in my mind automatically wants to go

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<v Speaker 3>to this conspiracy direction.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, you know, well, like to me, it's.

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<v Speaker 3>Just this whole situation. I'm in a lot of the

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<v Speaker 3>situations that we have found ourselves in seem highly fabricated.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, everybody always wants to know. But see, when you

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<v Speaker 2>talk about a conspiracy, everybody always wants to know the motives.

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<v Speaker 2>So I got to ask you, since you're saying, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>you see conspiracy, I'm seeing Trump acting naturally, although it

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<v Speaker 2>could be other people have a script and somebody just

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<v Speaker 2>lets Trump riff and they know what they're gonna get,

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<v Speaker 2>so they know what they're going to work with. Okay,

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<v Speaker 2>when he starts doing this, now you have this thing

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<v Speaker 2>to read off, you know. Uh, let's just say that

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<v Speaker 2>both of us are somewhat correct about this observation. Right,

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<v Speaker 2>let me ask what would be the point of putting

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<v Speaker 2>on that play today? And oh, by the way, did

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<v Speaker 2>you catch any of the Epstein stuff? Because I can't

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<v Speaker 2>seem to find these publicly released files they said they

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<v Speaker 2>were going to release in you know, I see nothing

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<v Speaker 2>new coming out, although the Justice Department had an announcement

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<v Speaker 2>about it. Maybe I should read off the website later

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<v Speaker 2>on when things slow down. But just curious, I mean,

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<v Speaker 2>what you what are your thoughts as to the motive here?

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<v Speaker 2>Why would they be scripting this? Is it to set

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<v Speaker 2>us up for I don't know, a new wave of

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<v Speaker 2>support for Ukraine or are because it looks to me

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<v Speaker 2>like the Republicans are going to drop away from it.

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<v Speaker 2>That's going to be the end of it. We're going

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<v Speaker 2>to leave it all up to Europe. I mean, we're

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<v Speaker 2>gonna is the strategy to let Europe fall into chaos?

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<v Speaker 2>What do you think, Chris?

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<v Speaker 3>You know, I really wish I could give you an

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<v Speaker 3>answer for that. It's really hard to tell. You know,

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<v Speaker 3>I don't know how much you how much you dive

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<v Speaker 3>into the conspiracy theories. You know, like let's they say, like,

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<v Speaker 3>you know, you had like Agenda twenty five. You know,

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<v Speaker 3>you also have Agenda twenty thirty, which I believe that

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<v Speaker 3>Agenda twenty thirty that's still you know, we're still on

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<v Speaker 3>the shouldn't be on the trajectory towards a big population

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<v Speaker 3>event here in the United States. Now, I'm not hell

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<v Speaker 3>being you know, I'm not set on that, but I

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<v Speaker 3>do think that you know, in other parts of the

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<v Speaker 3>Agenda twenty thirty, you know, it's where basically we're going

418
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<v Speaker 3>to be eshered into it, you know, technological Golden age

419
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<v Speaker 3>if you want. All right, Oh yeah, Elon seems to

420
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<v Speaker 3>play a perfect role in that. You can't be eating

421
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<v Speaker 3>off topic.

422
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<v Speaker 2>No, no, no problem. But you look, you're speaking directly

423
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<v Speaker 2>to something I talked about last night and I've been

424
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<v Speaker 2>trying to express and nobody wants to hear it. And

425
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<v Speaker 2>that is the great rise of the technocracy with little resistance.

426
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<v Speaker 2>Nobody cares about the fact that, yeah, we're letting the

427
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<v Speaker 2>tech people take over every thing looks like and they

428
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<v Speaker 2>want to run a lot of things via AI. So

429
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<v Speaker 2>you know you're worried about robotics taking your jobs, AI

430
00:23:07.759 --> 00:23:09.319
<v Speaker 2>is going to take a whole lot more.

431
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<v Speaker 3>And uh, well that's where all these federal jobs are going.

432
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<v Speaker 3>I'm sorry for cutting off, but they're going to all

433
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<v Speaker 3>these jobs that are supposedly being you know, eliminated from

434
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<v Speaker 3>the federal workforce. I mean, they're going to be supplemented

435
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<v Speaker 3>by a workforce.

436
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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, they're going to just try and figure out which

437
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<v Speaker 2>jobs chat GPT can do for them and that'll be

438
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<v Speaker 2>the end of it. And who knows, maybe they'll use

439
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<v Speaker 2>deep seek. That's the new Chinese AI, right actually, deep

440
00:23:31.920 --> 00:23:35.000
<v Speaker 2>Seek is fully accessible, works pretty well. I've used it

441
00:23:36.039 --> 00:23:38.559
<v Speaker 2>a lot of other people, you know, like we're like, oh, no,

442
00:23:38.599 --> 00:23:40.240
<v Speaker 2>don't touch that thing. It's going to be a Chinese

443
00:23:40.240 --> 00:23:42.960
<v Speaker 2>spy tool. And I'm like, if you don't already have

444
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<v Speaker 2>Chinese spy tools on your Chinese manufacturer electronics already, I

445
00:23:47.000 --> 00:23:49.400
<v Speaker 2>don't know what to tell you. If you have electronics,

446
00:23:49.400 --> 00:23:51.680
<v Speaker 2>you're being spied on by your electronics.

447
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<v Speaker 3>I mean, anybody you know says anything about the deep

448
00:23:55.119 --> 00:23:58.640
<v Speaker 3>sake they just bought too far into the praftaganda they

449
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<v Speaker 3>sell the road I said, they've already become They've already

450
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<v Speaker 3>been victimized, you know, yes, all their personal debt has

451
00:24:04.440 --> 00:24:07.039
<v Speaker 3>been seized and tracked.

452
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<v Speaker 2>Well, nonetheless, I'm not comfortable, No, I'm sorry, but nonetheless

453
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<v Speaker 2>I'm still not entirely comfortable with letting Elon Musk have it.

454
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<v Speaker 2>This guy, you know, he's a mess. And oh, by

455
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<v Speaker 2>the way, they shut down a whole bunch of investigations

456
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<v Speaker 2>from the SEC about stocks and you know, fraud and

457
00:24:27.000 --> 00:24:30.119
<v Speaker 2>maybe trading with Chinese companies and all this stuff. And

458
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<v Speaker 2>the Chinese guy who do you know, sent money. Of

459
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<v Speaker 2>course they will talk about that with Biden, but nobody

460
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<v Speaker 2>wants to talk about Trump literally shutting down the investigations

461
00:24:39.160 --> 00:24:45.680
<v Speaker 2>that we're starting to launch. You know that might they well,

462
00:24:45.720 --> 00:24:48.920
<v Speaker 2>it's a funny thing about all the all the watch

463
00:24:49.039 --> 00:24:52.759
<v Speaker 2>dogs are gone, the igs are gone. Everybody says, Okay,

464
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<v Speaker 2>we don't need the bureaucracy, but the guardrails are gone

465
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<v Speaker 2>now from all these guys doing whatever the hell they want,

466
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<v Speaker 2>and everybody's comfortable with this. Elon Musk is the guy

467
00:25:03.039 --> 00:25:06.200
<v Speaker 2>you would pick to be your leader because at this point,

468
00:25:06.759 --> 00:25:10.079
<v Speaker 2>the guy has a lot of power and nobody, nobody

469
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<v Speaker 2>even pretends to have elected him.

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<v Speaker 3>You know what I mean, Yeah, I understand.

471
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<v Speaker 2>It's uh, yeah, it's power. Remember what they used to

472
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<v Speaker 2>call that when we played tag. If somebody touched the base,

473
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<v Speaker 2>and you touch the guy who was touching the base,

474
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<v Speaker 2>they would say, oh, that's electricity. It's like, you know,

475
00:25:30.759 --> 00:25:37.319
<v Speaker 2>Elon got power via the electricity from Trump. Trump touched him,

476
00:25:37.400 --> 00:25:40.079
<v Speaker 2>and now he is blessed with the power to do

477
00:25:40.119 --> 00:25:43.039
<v Speaker 2>stuff and nobody can sort it out. Even in court.

478
00:25:43.079 --> 00:25:45.319
<v Speaker 2>The Trump administration is saying he doesn't have the power

479
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<v Speaker 2>to do anything, and yet he's out there going up,

480
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<v Speaker 2>gonna take my chainsaw to this next I'm confused by this,

481
00:25:52.599 --> 00:25:55.200
<v Speaker 2>and confused by all of the people that I thought

482
00:25:55.279 --> 00:25:59.079
<v Speaker 2>were at least skeptical about letting, you know, the computer

483
00:25:59.200 --> 00:26:03.680
<v Speaker 2>technology take over for everything. Just going now, it's okay. Now,

484
00:26:04.920 --> 00:26:06.839
<v Speaker 2>how are they going to feel? Though? If a new

485
00:26:06.880 --> 00:26:10.240
<v Speaker 2>administration comes in and it doesn't happen to be MAGA

486
00:26:11.079 --> 00:26:13.720
<v Speaker 2>and they want the technocracy to take over, well, then

487
00:26:13.759 --> 00:26:15.799
<v Speaker 2>it'll be a problem and we'll be being taken over

488
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<v Speaker 2>by China, right, I mean, I don't know.

489
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<v Speaker 3>You tell me, yeah, I agree with you. I think

490
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<v Speaker 3>that we're you know, we're setting ourselves up as that

491
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<v Speaker 3>where you know, this has been my fear all along,

492
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<v Speaker 3>you know, even though I'll tell you honestly upfront, and

493
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<v Speaker 3>I voted for the guy, you know, because I wanted

494
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<v Speaker 3>the wheel thrown into the you know, the cog, you

495
00:26:36.720 --> 00:26:40.960
<v Speaker 3>know what I mean, I got you, But uh, I mean,

496
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<v Speaker 3>I mean, ultimately me, I know, I'm a little bit

497
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<v Speaker 3>more libertarian. I would just like to see the ship

498
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<v Speaker 3>burn down.

499
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<v Speaker 2>Listen, I understand, burn the ship down.

500
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<v Speaker 3>And because that's the only that's the only way around this.

501
00:26:52.839 --> 00:26:55.000
<v Speaker 3>You know, we have to boss the entire system.

502
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<v Speaker 2>Ultimately, we can keep.

503
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<v Speaker 3>Pretending we're going to vote our way into you know,

504
00:26:59.160 --> 00:27:03.279
<v Speaker 3>better better, so in a situation solution, but ultimately, no,

505
00:27:04.440 --> 00:27:05.400
<v Speaker 3>that's not gonna happen.

506
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<v Speaker 2>Well, I see it as a win win. No, I

507
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<v Speaker 2>see it as a win win. Also. I'm actually this

508
00:27:10.160 --> 00:27:12.680
<v Speaker 2>is the thing again. Nobody lets me express ever, but

509
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<v Speaker 2>I'm glad you brought it up. Here's the thing. I

510
00:27:15.400 --> 00:27:18.880
<v Speaker 2>think that it's a win win because either he radically

511
00:27:18.920 --> 00:27:22.079
<v Speaker 2>shakes things up so much that they start to function differently,

512
00:27:22.119 --> 00:27:25.880
<v Speaker 2>which should be better, or or ready for this, he

513
00:27:25.920 --> 00:27:28.160
<v Speaker 2>wrecks everything. And if he wrecks everything, it's going to

514
00:27:28.200 --> 00:27:31.039
<v Speaker 2>be a little more painful than people think. But at

515
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<v Speaker 2>the same time, it'll get rid of a whole lot

516
00:27:33.440 --> 00:27:36.640
<v Speaker 2>of garbage. I don't know. You know, I'm usually not

517
00:27:36.720 --> 00:27:38.599
<v Speaker 2>the guy who says burned down the house when it's

518
00:27:38.640 --> 00:27:42.880
<v Speaker 2>over infested with mice. But here we are, you know,

519
00:27:43.119 --> 00:27:47.160
<v Speaker 2>Is it such a bad thing if that's the point? Right? Oh, Jimmy,

520
00:27:50.160 --> 00:27:52.799
<v Speaker 2>Jimmy James was on the line. I think he dropped off.

521
00:27:52.839 --> 00:27:55.000
<v Speaker 2>I was just about to go to him, but I'm sorry, Jimmy.

522
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<v Speaker 2>If you want to call back in, please do cause

523
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<v Speaker 2>I want to hear from you. You tell me what's

524
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<v Speaker 2>going on. I want to hear from everybody. But back

525
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<v Speaker 2>to the staged event, just real quick, if you don't mind,

526
00:28:06.839 --> 00:28:08.799
<v Speaker 2>give me some more of your thoughts, like what else

527
00:28:08.960 --> 00:28:12.039
<v Speaker 2>was going on there? Because they would never stage something

528
00:28:12.119 --> 00:28:15.279
<v Speaker 2>like this for a singular purpose. So what do you

529
00:28:15.319 --> 00:28:17.799
<v Speaker 2>think was going on there? I mean Zolensky, I don't know.

530
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<v Speaker 2>He's a pretty good actor in that he did look

531
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<v Speaker 2>surprised that this was happening, So I don't know if

532
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<v Speaker 2>he was in on the staff meetings beforehand? What do

533
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<v Speaker 2>you think.

534
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<v Speaker 6>I mean?

535
00:28:33.519 --> 00:28:37.079
<v Speaker 3>Or just what skepticizing here? Essentially? Isn't it's a correct

536
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<v Speaker 3>word to use.

537
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<v Speaker 2>Well, we are we are theorizing, we.

538
00:28:40.720 --> 00:28:47.079
<v Speaker 7>Are utter one, we're theorizing.

539
00:28:47.119 --> 00:28:49.400
<v Speaker 2>What is the There is a good better term for

540
00:28:49.519 --> 00:28:53.279
<v Speaker 2>spitballing mentally here, like what's going on here? What are

541
00:28:53.319 --> 00:28:58.720
<v Speaker 2>we doing? We are Ah, well, it's beyond theorizing. It's

542
00:28:58.799 --> 00:29:04.519
<v Speaker 2>kind of like, uh, we are uh speculating, that's the word.

543
00:29:04.640 --> 00:29:10.359
<v Speaker 2>We're speculating, and we're we're speculating about different theories here

544
00:29:10.440 --> 00:29:13.640
<v Speaker 2>as to what the true meaning of that meeting was

545
00:29:13.720 --> 00:29:17.200
<v Speaker 2>and what it was. And again, you anybody can call

546
00:29:17.279 --> 00:29:19.680
<v Speaker 2>in three one nine, five, two seven, five zero one

547
00:29:19.839 --> 00:29:21.960
<v Speaker 2>six I will try to get to the next caller

548
00:29:22.000 --> 00:29:24.160
<v Speaker 2>who pops up on the line a little quicker. I

549
00:29:24.160 --> 00:29:26.319
<v Speaker 2>think Jimmy got tired of waiting because we're going back

550
00:29:26.359 --> 00:29:29.119
<v Speaker 2>and forth here a bit. So I'm sorry about that.

551
00:29:29.200 --> 00:29:30.680
<v Speaker 2>But you know, again, when I don't have my co

552
00:29:30.799 --> 00:29:33.240
<v Speaker 2>host with me, I get a little a little long

553
00:29:33.400 --> 00:29:36.319
<v Speaker 2>in the wind here. Uh. And hopefully b Petele joined

554
00:29:36.319 --> 00:29:39.119
<v Speaker 2>me shortly. I'm certain that he'll have something different to

555
00:29:39.119 --> 00:29:39.599
<v Speaker 2>say here.

556
00:29:40.880 --> 00:29:46.599
<v Speaker 3>But anyway, if Jimmy pops beckon and you need to

557
00:29:46.640 --> 00:29:50.839
<v Speaker 3>take them still free, you know, yeah.

558
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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, anybody, anybody who calls in, I'll take you next.

559
00:29:52.680 --> 00:29:55.599
<v Speaker 2>Hey man, is this live? Okay, I'm being asked in

560
00:29:55.680 --> 00:29:58.920
<v Speaker 2>chat if this is live? And indeed you asked me

561
00:29:59.000 --> 00:30:01.880
<v Speaker 2>that at eight thirty seven. Sorry, it took me a

562
00:30:01.920 --> 00:30:03.960
<v Speaker 2>few minutes to go look at the chat, but yes, yeah,

563
00:30:04.000 --> 00:30:07.119
<v Speaker 2>I was chill and we are live on a Friday,

564
00:30:07.880 --> 00:30:08.599
<v Speaker 2>and it is.

565
00:30:08.839 --> 00:30:10.880
<v Speaker 3>That was asking if you were live.

566
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<v Speaker 2>No problem, but I see another Skype question. Uh. And

567
00:30:14.279 --> 00:30:16.519
<v Speaker 2>the thing is I'm being asked again if I'm live. Yes,

568
00:30:16.559 --> 00:30:21.400
<v Speaker 2>I am live, and it is. Yeah, it's eight forty

569
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<v Speaker 2>something and it's the twenty eighth of February, as I speak,

570
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<v Speaker 2>so later on when I put this on for replays,

571
00:30:27.279 --> 00:30:30.079
<v Speaker 2>it won't be live, but it is right now. Okay,

572
00:30:30.720 --> 00:30:33.240
<v Speaker 2>wrap your minds around that one Mandela effect all day

573
00:30:33.279 --> 00:30:35.400
<v Speaker 2>if you like. But yeah, we're live at the moment,

574
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<v Speaker 2>and we're talking about the Zelensky thing from earlier. And

575
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<v Speaker 2>this is Chris from Florida on the line, and anybody

576
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<v Speaker 2>can join me at three one nine five two seven

577
00:30:43.559 --> 00:30:46.240
<v Speaker 2>five zero one six, So Chris, go ahead and speak

578
00:30:46.279 --> 00:30:47.920
<v Speaker 2>anything you want to speak on this gud.

579
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<v Speaker 3>I didn't want to say uh, because I tried to

580
00:30:51.519 --> 00:30:54.079
<v Speaker 3>listen to you. I tried tuning on at Shelli dot

581
00:30:54.079 --> 00:30:57.640
<v Speaker 3>com and I believe it was an episode from Hell

582
00:30:57.720 --> 00:31:01.599
<v Speaker 3>or high Water was currently playing when I, you know,

583
00:31:01.839 --> 00:31:04.960
<v Speaker 3>and I decide to just call in, just be part

584
00:31:05.000 --> 00:31:06.640
<v Speaker 3>of the show. I was just trying to listen and

585
00:31:06.680 --> 00:31:08.759
<v Speaker 3>see what the top is that were being discussed, and.

586
00:31:09.119 --> 00:31:12.359
<v Speaker 2>Gotchas well, let's let's go to a hip.

587
00:31:12.440 --> 00:31:14.359
<v Speaker 3>That's probably why you're getting questions.

588
00:31:14.000 --> 00:31:16.519
<v Speaker 2>Like that, No problem. Yeah it does still say on

589
00:31:16.559 --> 00:31:19.039
<v Speaker 2>the player Hell and high Water eleven or something like that,

590
00:31:19.079 --> 00:31:20.720
<v Speaker 2>but let's hit play on there and see if it

591
00:31:20.839 --> 00:31:21.680
<v Speaker 2>kicks me back here.

592
00:31:22.000 --> 00:31:24.160
<v Speaker 3>You're getting questions like that no problem.

593
00:31:24.240 --> 00:31:26.279
<v Speaker 2>Yeah it does still say on the player hell and

594
00:31:26.359 --> 00:31:28.599
<v Speaker 2>high Water eleven or something like that. But let's hit

595
00:31:28.640 --> 00:31:30.759
<v Speaker 2>play on there and see if it can see that

596
00:31:31.359 --> 00:31:33.160
<v Speaker 2>it just replayed what I just said.

597
00:31:33.519 --> 00:31:34.960
<v Speaker 3>You hate the sound of your own voice to.

598
00:31:35.079 --> 00:31:37.519
<v Speaker 2>Chuck, Absolutely, I do. That's why I can't listen to

599
00:31:37.559 --> 00:31:40.119
<v Speaker 2>it anyway. I'm just telling you guys, we are live

600
00:31:40.160 --> 00:31:42.880
<v Speaker 2>at the moment. Whether the player the player's text is

601
00:31:42.920 --> 00:31:46.720
<v Speaker 2>not updating, but we are live. So yeah, there it is.

602
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<v Speaker 2>I don't know why the two. I gotta fix that,

603
00:31:50.160 --> 00:31:52.079
<v Speaker 2>you see, that's my coding. I gotta I gotta go

604
00:31:52.119 --> 00:31:54.920
<v Speaker 2>into the code. God help us all uh and try

605
00:31:54.960 --> 00:31:58.279
<v Speaker 2>and make it work anyway. Sorry, man, go go right

606
00:31:58.279 --> 00:32:00.119
<v Speaker 2>ahead back to what you were saying. And that's that's

607
00:32:00.119 --> 00:32:03.119
<v Speaker 2>why I'm getting messages about whether I'm live or not. Yes, Chris,

608
00:32:03.119 --> 00:32:11.240
<v Speaker 2>we are live also, uh, just so you know, go ahead, Uh.

609
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<v Speaker 3>But I don't know you take the lead check. I mean,

610
00:32:14.160 --> 00:32:16.720
<v Speaker 3>I think I've Lisa. That was the main thing I

611
00:32:16.759 --> 00:32:19.400
<v Speaker 3>wanted to get across, and just tell us how scripted

612
00:32:19.440 --> 00:32:22.759
<v Speaker 3>that that discussion was between the trio.

613
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<v Speaker 2>Fair enough. You know what I might do is put

614
00:32:25.599 --> 00:32:28.559
<v Speaker 2>you on hold, man, and you chill out there in Florida.

615
00:32:28.640 --> 00:32:31.240
<v Speaker 2>You probably need to take a breather from alligators, in

616
00:32:31.559 --> 00:32:34.519
<v Speaker 2>vending machines and everything else. But anybody wants to call

617
00:32:34.599 --> 00:32:37.559
<v Speaker 2>in three one nine five two seven five zero one six,

618
00:32:38.160 --> 00:32:41.640
<v Speaker 2>that is the number to join us live. And what

619
00:32:41.680 --> 00:32:44.759
<v Speaker 2>I'm gonna do here is maybe go get let's go

620
00:32:44.839 --> 00:32:48.559
<v Speaker 2>get some of this discussion from earlier today between Zelensky

621
00:32:48.599 --> 00:32:51.079
<v Speaker 2>and Trump and take a listen to it while I

622
00:32:51.119 --> 00:32:53.519
<v Speaker 2>wait for my coach to join me or for anybody

623
00:32:53.519 --> 00:32:56.799
<v Speaker 2>else to join in on the phone lines. Please do that.

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<v Speaker 2>Three one nine five two seven five zero one. I

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<v Speaker 2>saw Jimmy James. He might hung up. I met him,

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<v Speaker 2>made him mad, or maybe he got tired of waiting,

627
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<v Speaker 2>or a pizza was delivered, who knows. But in the meantime, yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>let's go ahead and paste and go and go over

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<v Speaker 2>to YouTube where I had a link to the live

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<v Speaker 2>discussion over there. Whoops, No, that's not the right live discussion.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh there it is, now I have the right link.

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<v Speaker 2>Hang on, I'll go there. It went to a TV

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<v Speaker 2>show I was watching earlier, because I saved that link

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<v Speaker 2>as well. Mistakes on live radio, what a shocker, let's

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<v Speaker 2>see now. Oh well, First of all, we're gonna have

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<v Speaker 2>to get over the commercial, So let me play this,

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<v Speaker 2>get through the commercial, and then I will fast forward

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<v Speaker 2>to some of the discussion between Ukrainian President Zelensky and

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<v Speaker 2>American President Donald Trump in the Oval Office. And let's

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<v Speaker 2>hear from it the way it was as it happened. Right,

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<v Speaker 2>Let's see what we got here. Oh, here's where Van's broken.

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<v Speaker 8>In bringing people into your military ap brand, do you

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<v Speaker 8>think of the suspect hooldons to come to the Oval

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<v Speaker 8>Office of the United States of America and attack the

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<v Speaker 8>thestration that is trying to try to prevent the destruction

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<v Speaker 8>of your country.

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<v Speaker 5>A lot of questions, let's start from the biginn sure.

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<v Speaker 2>Of hillstor Now Zelenski is trying to answer a whole

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<v Speaker 2>bunch of questions. You're disrespectful, You're problems bringing your people

650
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<v Speaker 2>into your military this and that. How dare you attack

651
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<v Speaker 2>the administration or criticize anything Donald Trump said? And Zelenski's

652
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<v Speaker 2>now responding or trying to or he will try to.

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<v Speaker 2>And this is part of what I was talking about before. Anyway,

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<v Speaker 2>here we go.

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<v Speaker 9>Well, during the war, everybody has problems, even you, but

656
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<v Speaker 9>you have nice ocean and don't feel now, but you

657
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<v Speaker 9>will feel it in the fusion.

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<v Speaker 8>Less.

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<v Speaker 3>You don't know that.

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<v Speaker 6>I'm bless you. I'm blessed. You're not.

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<v Speaker 10>Don't tell us what we're going to feel. We're trying

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<v Speaker 10>to solve a problem. Don't tell us what we're going

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<v Speaker 10>to feel.

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<v Speaker 11>I'm not telling you because you're in no position to

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<v Speaker 11>dictate that.

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<v Speaker 10>You're in no position to dictate what we're going to feel.

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<v Speaker 6>We're gonna feel very good, feel influenced. We're gonna feel

668
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<v Speaker 6>very good and very strong, will feel influenced. You're right now,

669
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<v Speaker 6>not in a very good position. You've allowed you to

670
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<v Speaker 6>be in a very bad.

671
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<v Speaker 5>Position that he's happened to be right about the very

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<v Speaker 5>beginning of the war.

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<v Speaker 11>Not in a good position. You don't have the cards

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<v Speaker 11>right now with us. You start having cards right now.

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<v Speaker 6>You explain my spread.

676
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<v Speaker 11>You're gambling with the lives and millions of people.

677
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<v Speaker 6>You see, you're gambling with world War three. You're gambling

678
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<v Speaker 6>with world War three.

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<v Speaker 11>And what you're doing is very disrespectful to the country.

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<v Speaker 6>This country that's.

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<v Speaker 11>Back to you far more than a lot of people

682
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<v Speaker 11>said they should have.

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<v Speaker 8>Have you said thank you once that no in this

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<v Speaker 8>retirement you said you went to Pennsylvania and campaigned for

685
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<v Speaker 8>the opposition in October. Offer some words of appreciation for

686
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<v Speaker 8>the United States of America and the president who's trying

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<v Speaker 8>to save your country.

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<v Speaker 9>Please, you're seeing that if you will speak very loudly

689
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<v Speaker 9>about the war.

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<v Speaker 6>He's not speaking loudly. He's not speaking loudly. Country is

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<v Speaker 6>in big trouble.

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<v Speaker 11>No, no, can't a lot of talking. Your country is in

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<v Speaker 11>big trouble. I know you're not winning. You're not winning this.

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<v Speaker 11>You have a damn good chance of winning out. Okay,

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<v Speaker 11>because of.

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<v Speaker 5>The president, we are staying Nawa country, staying strong. From

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<v Speaker 5>the very beginning of the war, we've been alone and

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<v Speaker 5>we are samful.

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<v Speaker 6>I said, thanks, you haven't been giving it.

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<v Speaker 11>He gave you, through this stupid president, three hundred and

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<v Speaker 11>fifty billion dollars. We gave you military equipment. You and

702
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<v Speaker 11>you met have brave but they had to use our

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<v Speaker 11>military one of the best.

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<v Speaker 6>If you didn't have our.

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00:36:33.840 --> 00:36:38.599
<v Speaker 11>Military equipment, you didn't have our military equipment, this war

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<v Speaker 11>would have been over in two weeks.

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<v Speaker 12>In three days, I heard it from Putin in three days.

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<v Speaker 6>This is how Veggie less in two weeks. Of course, yeah,

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<v Speaker 6>it's gonna be a very hard thing to do business

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<v Speaker 6>like this. I'm gonna tell you say thank you.

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<v Speaker 5>I said it there except for American except that there are.

712
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<v Speaker 8>Disagreements, and let's go litigate those disagreements rather than trying

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<v Speaker 8>to out of the American media when you're wrong.

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<v Speaker 11>We knew that you're wrong, but you see, I think

715
00:37:04.360 --> 00:37:06.840
<v Speaker 11>it's good for the American people to see what's going

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<v Speaker 11>on there.

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<v Speaker 6>For me, I think it's very important. That's why I

718
00:37:08.960 --> 00:37:12.559
<v Speaker 6>kept this going so long. You have to be thankful.

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<v Speaker 6>You don't have the cards. You're buried there, your people.

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<v Speaker 11>That die tell you you're running low on soldiers. Listen,

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<v Speaker 11>you're running slow on soldiers. It would be a damn goodness.

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<v Speaker 11>And then then you tell.

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<v Speaker 6>Us I don't want to cease fire. I don't want

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00:37:27.159 --> 00:37:29.519
<v Speaker 6>to cease fire. I want to go and I wanted this.

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<v Speaker 10>Look, if you could get a ceasefire right now, I

726
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<v Speaker 10>tell you you take it. So the bullets stopped flying,

727
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<v Speaker 10>and your men stuff courting kills.

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<v Speaker 6>Post we want just stole the war. But they're saying

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<v Speaker 6>you don't want to see you.

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<v Speaker 11>I want to see guarantee because you get a ceasefire

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<v Speaker 11>faster than any great.

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<v Speaker 6>Color people of all. It's just spiral what they think.

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<v Speaker 6>There wasn't me.

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<v Speaker 12>That wasn't with me.

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<v Speaker 11>That was with a guy named Biden, who is not

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<v Speaker 11>a smart person.

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<v Speaker 6>That was that was with ores, you'll excuse me.

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<v Speaker 11>That was with Obama, who gave you a sheet and

739
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<v Speaker 11>I gave you javelins. Yes, I gave you the javelins

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<v Speaker 11>to take out all those tanks.

741
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<v Speaker 6>Obama gave you sheets.

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<v Speaker 11>In fact, the statement is Obama gave sheets and Trump

743
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<v Speaker 11>gave javelins.

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<v Speaker 2>See the point there that's funny to me is that

745
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<v Speaker 2>he's talking about Obama and Biden and everything, and Zelensky's

746
00:38:18.519 --> 00:38:22.800
<v Speaker 2>trying to tell him, Look, Putin doesn't honor ceasefires. Man,

747
00:38:23.320 --> 00:38:26.679
<v Speaker 2>ask our people what they think about that, and Trump's

748
00:38:26.679 --> 00:38:29.280
<v Speaker 2>not hearing them. Now, if that's the way that you

749
00:38:29.360 --> 00:38:31.519
<v Speaker 2>think business should be conducted, if that's the way you

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<v Speaker 2>think international affairs should be conducted, I don't know what

751
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<v Speaker 2>to tell you, but I was a little surprised by

752
00:38:36.880 --> 00:38:41.360
<v Speaker 2>that personally, Uh, a bit surprised. I didn't think you

753
00:38:41.400 --> 00:38:46.320
<v Speaker 2>would go like that. Anyway, here's what we might do.

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<v Speaker 2>Let's see if we have some other listeners on the

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<v Speaker 2>line calling in and we don't three one nine, five

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<v Speaker 2>two seven, five zero one six. That is the number

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<v Speaker 2>to call in and you can join into this and

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<v Speaker 2>talk to us about what was actually happen, happening, what

759
00:39:00.559 --> 00:39:04.719
<v Speaker 2>was actually said, how it was handled. You know, you

760
00:39:04.800 --> 00:39:07.679
<v Speaker 2>throw a bunch of questions that Zelenski tries to answer him,

761
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<v Speaker 2>and they don't let him answer, and then they start

762
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<v Speaker 2>yelling and don't tell us what we're supposed to feel.

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<v Speaker 2>He was trying to explain that eventually, you know, you

764
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<v Speaker 2>got an ocean protecting you from this action, but eventually

765
00:39:19.719 --> 00:39:23.079
<v Speaker 2>this kind of stuff could come home to you because

766
00:39:24.320 --> 00:39:26.880
<v Speaker 2>the ocean is, you know, nice protection, but it's not

767
00:39:27.239 --> 00:39:30.079
<v Speaker 2>the biggest thing in the world to always protect you eternally.

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<v Speaker 2>Remember not that he's not making a threat here. He

769
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<v Speaker 2>was very carefully trying to say that eventually this kind

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<v Speaker 2>of thing could happen. And if people start attacking you,

771
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<v Speaker 2>or if people start giving you problems, or they start

772
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<v Speaker 2>not wanting to do business with you, or whatever else,

773
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<v Speaker 2>and start telling you and dictating to you because they

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<v Speaker 2>have an advantage over you for the moment, you're not

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<v Speaker 2>going to like it. And if his country falls, there

776
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<v Speaker 2>will be an influential effect which is what he was

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<v Speaker 2>trying to say, but his England, which was a little

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<v Speaker 2>rough there. You'll feel the influence. What that means is

779
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<v Speaker 2>you're gonna feel the after effects. The things that this

780
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<v Speaker 2>causes could lead to other effects. And that's the problem here.

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<v Speaker 2>There's gonna be unintended consequences. That's the thing that I

782
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<v Speaker 2>complained about the first time when people elected Trump. I said,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, this guy would never be able to handle

784
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<v Speaker 2>a Cuban missile crisis. Other people said he you would

785
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<v Speaker 2>never get us into one. Okay, fair cool. But can

786
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<v Speaker 2>he handle a nuance or can he handle a situation

787
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<v Speaker 2>where he's not been preordained to have the advantage over people?

788
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<v Speaker 2>How well does he do in that situation? I mean,

789
00:40:45.159 --> 00:40:51.360
<v Speaker 2>he claims victory at all times, but realistically you think

790
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<v Speaker 2>this is gonna work out? Is this a good idea

791
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<v Speaker 2>to just cut this guy loose? Maybe it is. Maybe

792
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<v Speaker 2>you're all correct about it, right. I don't see it

793
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<v Speaker 2>that way. America's never functioned that way. But then again,

794
00:41:06.159 --> 00:41:09.079
<v Speaker 2>we've been dysfunctional a long time. So going back to

795
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<v Speaker 2>Chris's point in Florida, some of us think that, you know,

796
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<v Speaker 2>what if the whole thing does get burned down. Maybe

797
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<v Speaker 2>it would be better to rebuild something better, stronger and

798
00:41:19.480 --> 00:41:23.760
<v Speaker 2>makes more sense and represents the people better. But will

799
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<v Speaker 2>that happen even if it does all get burned to

800
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<v Speaker 2>the ground, or will we have a replacement with nothing

801
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<v Speaker 2>but the oligarchy running the whole game? Oh crap, We've

802
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<v Speaker 2>already got that, except we haven't been destroyed yet. We

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<v Speaker 2>know we suffered depressions, recessions, other issues, But as far

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<v Speaker 2>as I remember, there hasn't been you know, enemy foreign

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<v Speaker 2>troops here since what eighteen twelve when the British burned

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<v Speaker 2>down the White House? Was that eighteen twelve? I think,

807
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<v Speaker 2>so somewhere in there they burned down the White House, right,

808
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<v Speaker 2>but or burn it up, messed it up. Whatever point is,

809
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<v Speaker 2>we had foreign troops here, and we did have foreign

810
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<v Speaker 2>invader type people trying to sabotage things, you know, during

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<v Speaker 2>World War Two, German and Japanese agents tried to do that,

812
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<v Speaker 2>and of course they had to reach out to the

813
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<v Speaker 2>people that really ran the docks, the organized crime figures,

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<v Speaker 2>first making a deal with Rothstein there I think, or

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<v Speaker 2>maybe by then it wasn't Rothstein, it was actually oh,

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<v Speaker 2>the other Jewish gangster who was actually involved with the

817
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<v Speaker 2>Great Uncle sal there in New York. Either way, control

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<v Speaker 2>of the docks through Italian businessmen and unions and stuff.

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<v Speaker 2>All of a sudden they did need that help also

820
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<v Speaker 2>to invade Sicily. They got it. Italians, even the criminal ones,

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<v Speaker 2>very patriotic because we got this crazy idea that this

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<v Speaker 2>country would offer us much better opportunities. Now, the only

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<v Speaker 2>sick delusion that the my Italian ancestors suffered from was

824
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<v Speaker 2>this idea that there was upward mobility. I mean, maybe

825
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<v Speaker 2>it existed in the generation before me, but no longer.

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<v Speaker 2>And I know that makes me some sort of comedy

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<v Speaker 2>socialist whatever I know. But look, I'm gonna take a

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<v Speaker 2>break and hopefully we'll get some more interesting discussions from

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<v Speaker 2>you guys. If not, I'll go back to whoever's on

830
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<v Speaker 2>the lines. Happily, I think Chris from Florida is still there,

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<v Speaker 2>so I'll go back to him. I'll talk to whoever

832
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<v Speaker 2>else calls in or skype'es in. If you want to

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<v Speaker 2>skype in, send me a message Charles Ocelly on Skype. However,

834
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<v Speaker 2>some news coming up. Skype is going to be eliminated

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<v Speaker 2>by May of this year. They're going to actually cancel

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<v Speaker 2>the whole Skype thing. It's been around for over twenty years,

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<v Speaker 2>but it's gonna go because it's not making enough money

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<v Speaker 2>for Microsoft. So we won't have Skype pretty soon, and

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<v Speaker 2>I'll have to change a few things up. I might

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<v Speaker 2>have to use Microsoft Teams, which I am so not

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<v Speaker 2>looking forward to. And you know, I knew they were

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<v Speaker 2>jamming that down our throats. It's like the uh Microsoft

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<v Speaker 2>Edge browser. They're trying to make us all use, and eventually,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, all your computers will be Microsoft running. I'm

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<v Speaker 2>sure Bill Gates will get his cut of the pie,

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<v Speaker 2>and Elon Musk will have his various X products and

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<v Speaker 2>government contracts running at full steam because he's got absolutely

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<v Speaker 2>no roadblocks now. Anyway, I'm starting to feel like Zelinski

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<v Speaker 2>when it comes to media anymore. Nobody wants to hear

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<v Speaker 2>what I gotta say, and everybody cuts me off and

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<v Speaker 2>tells me stuff anyway, But I want to hear from you.

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<v Speaker 2>Three one nine, five two seven five zero one six

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<v Speaker 2>three one nine five two seven five zero one six.

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<v Speaker 2>I'll play just another snippet of that meeting and then

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<v Speaker 2>go to a break. Here on the Friday night, Ocelli

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<v Speaker 2>effect open mic stay tuned.

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<v Speaker 6>You gotta be more thankful.

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<v Speaker 4>Confluence is the connected workspace where teams can do it all.

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<v Speaker 10>To make because the attitudes have to change.

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<v Speaker 2>No way Vladimir would do that to me.

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<v Speaker 6>He keeps his words.

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<v Speaker 8>Saying, he's asking, what if Russia brings the cease fire?

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<v Speaker 6>What if anything? What if anything from your head? Right?

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<v Speaker 2>Yes, what if anything falls on your head?

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<v Speaker 1>Oh mind?

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<v Speaker 13>The War State by Michael Swanson explains the great national

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<v Speaker 13>transformation that took place and put the Kennedy presidency in

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<v Speaker 13>the context of the times and reveals never be published

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<v Speaker 13>information about the Cuban missile crisis. President Kennedy would not

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<v Speaker 13>have been assassinated if he had been president two hundred

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<v Speaker 13>years ago. His assassination took place in the context of

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<v Speaker 13>the Cold War and the rise of the national security state.

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<v Speaker 3>Before World War.

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<v Speaker 13>II, the United States was a continental republic. In the

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<v Speaker 13>decade that followed, it became an imperial superpower. Generals such

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<v Speaker 13>as Curtis LeMay not only wanted to invade Cuba, but

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<v Speaker 13>knew that there were short range missiles on the island

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<v Speaker 13>aren't with nuclear warheads that they could not destroy because

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<v Speaker 13>they were on mobile launchers. Their invasion could have led

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<v Speaker 13>to a Third World War, and they wanted to go

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<v Speaker 13>to war anyway. The War State by Michael Swanson reveals

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<v Speaker 13>For more information the Warstate dot com.

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<v Speaker 14>Yo Yolas Doug Tamp, host of the Dallas Action Podcast

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<v Speaker 14>presented by Wall Street Window Though, and you are listening

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<v Speaker 14>to the o'chile effect revelation through conversation.

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<v Speaker 16>cover off many of them, using new files and exposes

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<v Speaker 16>things about the Bay of Pigs that no one has

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<v Speaker 16>ever written about it before. It shows why it really

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<v Speaker 16>failed and why the United States did not learn from it.

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<v Speaker 16>It also shows why other countries today are doing secret

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<v Speaker 16>operations with more success than This is the book that

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<v Speaker 16>puts what some want to deny into the light.

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<v Speaker 17>In Denial, secret wars with air strikes and tanks Larry

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<v Speaker 17>Hancock con For more information, go to Larryheiden Handcock dot com.

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<v Speaker 17>Pick up your copy of In Denial at Amazon dot

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<v Speaker 3>Again here telling.

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<v Speaker 2>Smoke them if you got them. Hey, we're back on

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<v Speaker 2>a Friday night and we are live taking your calls

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<v Speaker 2>three one nine, five two seven five zero one six.

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<v Speaker 2>Hopefully we'll get more joining in. I want to hear

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<v Speaker 2>from you. It's a good night to talk about stuff.

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<v Speaker 2>And what kind of stuff could we talk about? Well,

916
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<v Speaker 2>we could avoid politics if you like, or we could

917
00:49:18.840 --> 00:49:20.880
<v Speaker 2>go with this a lot with me.

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<v Speaker 11>He went through a phony witch hunt where it used

919
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<v Speaker 11>him in Russia, Russia, Russia, Russia.

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<v Speaker 6>You ever hear of that deal?

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<v Speaker 11>There was a phony that was a phony hunter Biden,

922
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<v Speaker 11>Joe Biden's scam, Hillary Clinton, Shifty Adam Shift who was

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<v Speaker 11>a Democrat scam.

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<v Speaker 6>And he had to go through that. And he did

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<v Speaker 6>go through it. We didn't end up in a war,

926
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<v Speaker 6>and he went through it. He was accused of all

927
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<v Speaker 6>that stuff. He had nothing to do with it.

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<v Speaker 11>It came out of Hunter Biden's bathroom. It came out

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<v Speaker 11>of Hunter Biden's bedroom.

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<v Speaker 6>It was disgusting.

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<v Speaker 11>And then they said, oh, oh, the laptop from Hell

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<v Speaker 11>was made by Russia, the fifty one agents.

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<v Speaker 6>The whole thing was a scam and he had to

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<v Speaker 6>put up with that. He was being accused of all

935
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<v Speaker 6>that stuff.

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<v Speaker 2>All I can say is this talking about Vladimir Putin by.

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<v Speaker 6>Obama and Bush. And he might have broken him with Biden.

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<v Speaker 6>He did maybe maybe he did. I don't know what happened,

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<v Speaker 6>but he didn't break.

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<v Speaker 2>Him with me.

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<v Speaker 6>He wants to make a deal. I don't know if

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<v Speaker 6>you can make a deal.

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<v Speaker 2>The problem is the president of the United States doesn't

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<v Speaker 2>know the history of whether deals were made, broken, whatever.

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<v Speaker 2>He don't care because he wasn't there. Is that what

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<v Speaker 2>we take from that? I think so just saying, according

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<v Speaker 2>to his own words, I don't know, I wasn't there.

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<v Speaker 11>Cool, I've empowered you to be a tough guy and.

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<v Speaker 10>I don't think you'd be a tough guy without the

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<v Speaker 10>United States, and your people.

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<v Speaker 11>Are very brave. But you're either going to make a

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<v Speaker 11>deal or we're out. And if we're out, you'll fight

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<v Speaker 11>it out. I don't think it's going to be pretty,

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<v Speaker 11>but you'll fight it out. But you don't have the cards.

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<v Speaker 11>But once we signed deal, you're in a much better position.

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<v Speaker 11>But you're not acting at all thankful. And that's not

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<v Speaker 11>a nice thing. I'll be honest, that's not a nice thing.

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<v Speaker 11>All right, I think we've seen enough.

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<v Speaker 6>What do you.

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<v Speaker 11>Think this is gonna be great television?

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<v Speaker 6>I will say that.

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<v Speaker 11>We will see what we can do about but.

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00:51:28.199 --> 00:51:42.679
<v Speaker 12>You will see.

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<v Speaker 2>And then after everybody's happy with themselves, they usher the

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<v Speaker 2>news media out. That's the way that went today. And

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<v Speaker 2>then they canceled the post press conference where they're supposed

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<v Speaker 2>to stand up at the podiums and do that whole thing.

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<v Speaker 2>But did you need the rest of the show or not?

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<v Speaker 2>Probably not? Uh anyway, Chris, I might well wait a minute,

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<v Speaker 2>let's see, can we get him back on the line. Wow,

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<v Speaker 2>it didn't want to let me press the button? Now? Did? Okay?

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<v Speaker 2>You're back though? Three one nine, five two seven five

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<v Speaker 2>zero one six, anybody can join in. But now that

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<v Speaker 2>you've heard part of that, uh, that's what you remember

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<v Speaker 2>hearing earlier, right, correct? Okay, just checking. I mean interesting

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<v Speaker 2>how contradictions happened right in front of people and nobody

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<v Speaker 2>questions it. And jd Vance is very happy with this

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<v Speaker 2>whole thing. You see how he was like, really, what

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<v Speaker 2>do they call that? The uh the uh, well, let's

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<v Speaker 2>let's pg it up for a second. The poop eating grin? Yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>is that the phrase? Uh?

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<v Speaker 6>There?

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<v Speaker 2>You know, I don't see how this guy's happy with himself.

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<v Speaker 2>What productive thing happened there? Oh? He told off Vladimir's Lensky. Cool,

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<v Speaker 2>we made you a tough guy. You're not a very

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<v Speaker 2>tough Well you're kind of a tough guy. Your people

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<v Speaker 2>are brave, but you're not a tough guy. You're only

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<v Speaker 2>a tough guy because of the United States.

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<v Speaker 3>Wow, but how much is this is theatrics? I'm not

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<v Speaker 3>trying to cut you up. How much of this is theatrics?

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<v Speaker 7>Well, it's you know, you can look at various news sources.

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<v Speaker 7>I mean, you know, throughout throughout the last few years

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<v Speaker 7>since this supposed war has been ongoing, and as a

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<v Speaker 7>more as a more recently with them, like the last year.

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<v Speaker 18>I mean, you can see what supposed videos of and

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<v Speaker 18>then there's so much misinformation out there. I'm not trying

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<v Speaker 18>to I hate to prepare the media, but misinformation, disinformation

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<v Speaker 18>that I mean, you can if you, if you look

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<v Speaker 18>hard enough, you can find videos of you know, the

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<v Speaker 18>young individuals supposedly walking around, you know, in downtown you know,

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<v Speaker 18>the main downtown areas of Ukraine. You know where they've

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<v Speaker 18>got what mister's set up, you know, and there's there's

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<v Speaker 18>twenty something year old you know, male and females walking

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<v Speaker 18>the streets.

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<v Speaker 2>Well they haven't destroyed, they haven't, you.

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<v Speaker 3>Know, but but not But on the end verse, I

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<v Speaker 3>mean you can go on like other other websites and

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<v Speaker 3>you know you see, uh yeah, Russian soldiers are being

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<v Speaker 3>you know, stepping on land mines and you know, being

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<v Speaker 3>killed or being killed by drones or you know, hitting

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<v Speaker 3>a drone with a baseball bat whatnot. You know.

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<v Speaker 7>I mean, well, look, I realistically, no no reason on

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<v Speaker 7>the internet.

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<v Speaker 2>I got you realistically though, right, the capital city has

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<v Speaker 2>been almost untouched by most of this, right, so if

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<v Speaker 2>you're seeing stuff that's still standing, it looks like to me,

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<v Speaker 2>that's in the capital of Ukraine, right, Uh, they've left

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<v Speaker 2>that city untouched. But I mean reports from people, not

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<v Speaker 2>necessarily news outlets, but people that are sneaking out, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>accounts on their own. As far as I know, our reporting, Look,

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<v Speaker 2>every other place is like just crushed, beat up pretty bad.

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<v Speaker 2>You know. Have we heard from the former heavyweight champion

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<v Speaker 2>who was a mayor one of the Klitschko brothers is

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<v Speaker 2>a mayor of one of the big cities there, right,

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<v Speaker 2>and we haven't even heard from him in the past year.

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<v Speaker 2>I think, I don't know if he's alive, dead, or

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<v Speaker 2>just went away. Who knows what's going on. And some

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<v Speaker 2>news outlets have had on the former president, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>the guy that they allegedly ran out of there to

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<v Speaker 2>put this guy in. And there's lots of accounts. Look,

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<v Speaker 2>the truth is, unless we can go there ourselves, we

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<v Speaker 2>don't really know anymore. Because of all of the different spins.

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<v Speaker 2>I know that our corporate media stopped supporting Ukraine pretty

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<v Speaker 2>much because they were all in. Remember it was all like,

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<v Speaker 2>oh my god, we got to feel for the troops there,

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<v Speaker 2>we got to feel for the Ukrainian people, and they

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<v Speaker 2>dropped that after about six eight months, I think, and

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<v Speaker 2>that hasn't been the same since.

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<v Speaker 3>Right, Well, but Tim wiltaneously we also what we've got

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<v Speaker 3>what was it the operation.

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<v Speaker 2>The Yes, if I'm not mistaken, Yeah, that was one

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<v Speaker 2>of the old ones.

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00:56:04.480 --> 00:56:06.960
<v Speaker 3>Yeah. And we can't discount the I mean that is

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00:56:07.000 --> 00:56:09.440
<v Speaker 3>something that is still being utilized to this very day.

1045
00:56:09.719 --> 00:56:10.840
<v Speaker 2>No, not about we can't.

1046
00:56:11.039 --> 00:56:13.960
<v Speaker 3>Media has the ability to lie to us to our face.

1047
00:56:14.119 --> 00:56:17.000
<v Speaker 2>No, no discount at all. Chris, Yeah, yeah, wait wait

1048
00:56:17.000 --> 00:56:19.400
<v Speaker 2>wait more new Wait a minute, wait a minute, wait

1049
00:56:20.159 --> 00:56:23.880
<v Speaker 2>just one second, forget about Mockingbird. Mockingbird's old news. We

1050
00:56:23.920 --> 00:56:28.519
<v Speaker 2>have brand new news about the Biden administration literally trying

1051
00:56:28.519 --> 00:56:31.840
<v Speaker 2>to make payoffs or making payoffs to some media outlets.

1052
00:56:32.199 --> 00:56:34.440
<v Speaker 2>Now they made up a few of them. You know,

1053
00:56:34.519 --> 00:56:37.800
<v Speaker 2>there are fake reports about the Biden administration making payoffs,

1054
00:56:37.800 --> 00:56:41.039
<v Speaker 2>and then there's real ones that nobody's challenging, where they

1055
00:56:41.079 --> 00:56:45.199
<v Speaker 2>paid news outlets to push certain stories. And of course

1056
00:56:45.239 --> 00:56:48.440
<v Speaker 2>there was all sorts of backwards different threats coming at

1057
00:56:48.519 --> 00:56:51.159
<v Speaker 2>you know, people at Facebook. I mean, Zuckerberg over there

1058
00:56:51.239 --> 00:56:54.480
<v Speaker 2>seems legitimately afraid of Trump now because he wanted to

1059
00:56:54.480 --> 00:56:58.239
<v Speaker 2>put him in prison. But meanwhile he was also fighting

1060
00:56:58.280 --> 00:57:00.400
<v Speaker 2>with the Democrats because they wanted to put him in

1061
00:57:00.480 --> 00:57:04.239
<v Speaker 2>prison over medical disinformation. Right, letting people, how dare you

1062
00:57:04.280 --> 00:57:08.840
<v Speaker 2>allow Facebook to challenge vaccines? We're gonna put these guys

1063
00:57:08.920 --> 00:57:13.039
<v Speaker 2>are in an untenable position unless they are the overlords themselves,

1064
00:57:13.119 --> 00:57:17.119
<v Speaker 2>Unless you're Elon musk owning X right now, you're in

1065
00:57:17.159 --> 00:57:19.519
<v Speaker 2>a position where if you make the wrong enemy in

1066
00:57:19.559 --> 00:57:24.280
<v Speaker 2>our government. You know, free speech, that's a joke at

1067
00:57:24.320 --> 00:57:26.800
<v Speaker 2>this point. And I mean, look, we could go way

1068
00:57:26.840 --> 00:57:28.679
<v Speaker 2>back in history and go to FDR. You know, the

1069
00:57:28.719 --> 00:57:31.920
<v Speaker 2>great liberal emancipator who gave us a great society or

1070
00:57:31.960 --> 00:57:35.320
<v Speaker 2>whatever the hell he was that he did. FDR was

1071
00:57:35.360 --> 00:57:37.880
<v Speaker 2>like basically at war with the Constitution the whole time,

1072
00:57:37.960 --> 00:57:42.039
<v Speaker 2>shutting down all sorts of media, spinning propaganda constantly. I mean,

1073
00:57:42.079 --> 00:57:45.039
<v Speaker 2>we need to get honest about it. But Mockingbird makes

1074
00:57:45.079 --> 00:57:47.760
<v Speaker 2>it sound like you're talking about it's old news. I'm

1075
00:57:47.760 --> 00:57:51.000
<v Speaker 2>telling you that this is a constant going on where

1076
00:57:51.000 --> 00:57:53.360
<v Speaker 2>you got to get approval from these different places and

1077
00:57:53.360 --> 00:57:56.079
<v Speaker 2>then they claim, well we can't get in, and I mean,

1078
00:57:56.360 --> 00:57:59.679
<v Speaker 2>and look complain or not. The Associated Press has been

1079
00:57:59.719 --> 00:58:04.280
<v Speaker 2>banned from press briefings now because they wouldn't acknowledge the

1080
00:58:04.320 --> 00:58:07.719
<v Speaker 2>Gulf of America instead of the Gulf of Mexico. I mean,

1081
00:58:07.800 --> 00:58:10.880
<v Speaker 2>we're in a different landscape here today, Chris, don't you think.

1082
00:58:11.199 --> 00:58:14.519
<v Speaker 2>I mean Mockingbird was one thing, but now with these

1083
00:58:14.559 --> 00:58:18.760
<v Speaker 2>modern media conventions, it's gotten even more extreme and more

1084
00:58:18.800 --> 00:58:22.320
<v Speaker 2>direct and more naked. I think this idea that we

1085
00:58:22.360 --> 00:58:25.800
<v Speaker 2>have a fourth the stake forget it, it's gone right.

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00:58:29.480 --> 00:58:33.119
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, I'm in and I all agree with you. That

1087
00:58:33.239 --> 00:58:38.800
<v Speaker 3>means this. Yeah, the propagand has been it's been sheved

1088
00:58:39.119 --> 00:58:42.719
<v Speaker 3>throats for so long that you know, it's impossible for

1089
00:58:42.760 --> 00:58:46.039
<v Speaker 3>anybody to really have them, how long it's been going

1090
00:58:46.079 --> 00:58:50.639
<v Speaker 3>on for And most people wouldn't even mentally be able

1091
00:58:50.679 --> 00:58:53.280
<v Speaker 3>to acknowledge it it's been going on. You know, it'll

1092
00:58:53.320 --> 00:58:58.000
<v Speaker 3>just break their It'll break the world. It'll shatter their

1093
00:58:58.039 --> 00:58:59.239
<v Speaker 3>little realities.

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00:58:58.800 --> 00:59:01.239
<v Speaker 2>That we all like to live in, exactly. And we

1095
00:59:01.280 --> 00:59:03.199
<v Speaker 2>do have a we do have a live chatroom at

1096
00:59:03.199 --> 00:59:05.599
<v Speaker 2>Ocelli dot com and plenty of open phone lines. I've

1097
00:59:05.599 --> 00:59:07.519
<v Speaker 2>got about one hundred open phone lines. And no matter

1098
00:59:07.559 --> 00:59:10.079
<v Speaker 2>what happens to Skype in the near future, will integrate

1099
00:59:10.239 --> 00:59:13.800
<v Speaker 2>the old phone system into a new system very soon,

1100
00:59:13.920 --> 00:59:16.840
<v Speaker 2>probably next month, so I'm gonna have to buy a

1101
00:59:16.880 --> 00:59:20.000
<v Speaker 2>subscription to something. I guarantee it. But either way, we'll

1102
00:59:20.000 --> 00:59:22.000
<v Speaker 2>make sure we keep the phone lines open. I'm looking

1103
00:59:22.000 --> 00:59:24.400
<v Speaker 2>at the chatroom though, and you can go there. I

1104
00:59:24.440 --> 00:59:27.440
<v Speaker 2>think I released the ban on anons because there were

1105
00:59:27.519 --> 00:59:30.320
<v Speaker 2>abusive Anon people in the room for a few weeks,

1106
00:59:30.719 --> 00:59:32.320
<v Speaker 2>so I got rid of that for a little while.

1107
00:59:32.360 --> 00:59:34.719
<v Speaker 2>But I think you can go in there and chat anonymously. Still.

1108
00:59:35.119 --> 00:59:41.039
<v Speaker 2>But Phase shifter nine, I'm yeah, Phase shifter eight. Sorry,

1109
00:59:41.320 --> 00:59:45.039
<v Speaker 2>Phase shifter eight. With the stage horse shite, you'll need

1110
00:59:45.079 --> 00:59:50.760
<v Speaker 2>a double tinfoil hat lined with some copper mesh. So

1111
00:59:50.840 --> 00:59:53.559
<v Speaker 2>many these are comments from the chat, so many agendas,

1112
00:59:53.639 --> 00:59:56.159
<v Speaker 2>so little time. Got to just get them done before

1113
00:59:56.199 --> 00:59:58.519
<v Speaker 2>it's too late and the Rubes get wise on the scam.

1114
00:59:58.920 --> 01:00:00.480
<v Speaker 2>I don't know if the rubs are ever gonna get

1115
01:00:00.480 --> 01:00:04.000
<v Speaker 2>wise on the scam chatter anyway. Elon is the right

1116
01:00:04.039 --> 01:00:09.159
<v Speaker 2>wings favorite tech overlord. Gates is the left's favorite. Yeah,

1117
01:00:09.159 --> 01:00:13.480
<v Speaker 2>but notice they both maintain a straggle hold on certain

1118
01:00:13.519 --> 01:00:17.159
<v Speaker 2>parts of society one way or another. Left and right.

1119
01:00:17.239 --> 01:00:18.679
<v Speaker 2>I mean, you do need a left hand in a

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01:00:18.760 --> 01:00:21.079
<v Speaker 2>right hand to be an effective fighter of any kind.

1121
01:00:21.159 --> 01:00:24.480
<v Speaker 2>Right or a boxer or hey left and right wings

1122
01:00:24.800 --> 01:00:27.320
<v Speaker 2>for any any bird, whether they're flightless or not, they

1123
01:00:27.360 --> 01:00:31.000
<v Speaker 2>got both wings anyway, might need to add a layer

1124
01:00:31.079 --> 01:00:34.199
<v Speaker 2>of lead to that hat as well. Another comment there,

1125
01:00:34.519 --> 01:00:37.800
<v Speaker 2>Trump's just throwing scraps of bloody meat to his cult members.

1126
01:00:38.239 --> 01:00:41.639
<v Speaker 2>They'll all be saying, how Trump sure told him? What's what?

1127
01:00:42.320 --> 01:00:46.079
<v Speaker 3>By one of these people would call in, wasn't it?

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01:00:46.639 --> 01:00:51.639
<v Speaker 3>I would love for chat from just call in and

1129
01:00:51.960 --> 01:00:52.760
<v Speaker 3>I actually talk.

1130
01:00:53.480 --> 01:00:58.119
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, please do please do three one nine, five two seven.

1131
01:00:58.159 --> 01:01:00.239
<v Speaker 2>I will let you say anything on this show. Not

1132
01:01:00.280 --> 01:01:03.480
<v Speaker 2>doing AM and FM anymore, so you can speak your

1133
01:01:03.480 --> 01:01:05.400
<v Speaker 2>mind any which way you want. And by the way,

1134
01:01:05.400 --> 01:01:08.800
<v Speaker 2>I also got kicked off of YouTube and even Larry

1135
01:01:08.840 --> 01:01:14.440
<v Speaker 2>Hancock this past last week Larry Hancock got himself suspended

1136
01:01:14.440 --> 01:01:18.360
<v Speaker 2>on Facebook for some reason. Okay, so believe me and

1137
01:01:18.400 --> 01:01:20.400
<v Speaker 2>I have no idea how that happened. I mean that's

1138
01:01:20.480 --> 01:01:25.639
<v Speaker 2>like saying you know, no, no, and he goes to

1139
01:01:25.679 --> 01:01:28.039
<v Speaker 2>try and fill out the thing to make an appeal

1140
01:01:28.079 --> 01:01:30.760
<v Speaker 2>and there's no button for an appeal, Like they're like,

1141
01:01:30.760 --> 01:01:32.880
<v Speaker 2>go below and make an appeal and there's no button.

1142
01:01:33.639 --> 01:01:35.320
<v Speaker 2>So I don't know what to tell him. I don't

1143
01:01:35.320 --> 01:01:37.880
<v Speaker 2>know what to tell anybody anymore. People are getting kicked

1144
01:01:37.920 --> 01:01:41.440
<v Speaker 2>off of every kind of platform possible, except if you're

1145
01:01:41.480 --> 01:01:43.280
<v Speaker 2>on the left and you go to Blue Sky, you

1146
01:01:43.320 --> 01:01:46.039
<v Speaker 2>can do all your leftist stuff over there. If you

1147
01:01:46.159 --> 01:01:49.320
<v Speaker 2>go to Twitter you can or ex excuse me, if

1148
01:01:49.360 --> 01:01:50.960
<v Speaker 2>you go there, you can do all the poor and

1149
01:01:51.039 --> 01:01:53.440
<v Speaker 2>all day you want, and right wing craziness you want

1150
01:01:53.920 --> 01:01:58.440
<v Speaker 2>over there, and you can go to truth Social. Wait

1151
01:01:58.440 --> 01:02:01.679
<v Speaker 2>a minute, there are there are like maga people on

1152
01:02:01.760 --> 01:02:02.239
<v Speaker 2>Blue Sky.

1153
01:02:04.440 --> 01:02:09.360
<v Speaker 3>Now, I was saying, the porn stuff, oh nice, just

1154
01:02:09.880 --> 01:02:14.480
<v Speaker 3>other degrees is yeah.

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01:02:13.079 --> 01:02:15.159
<v Speaker 2>I'm sorry. I didn't know that porn was on Blue

1156
01:02:15.159 --> 01:02:17.320
<v Speaker 2>Sky as well, but thank you for informing me. I

1157
01:02:17.360 --> 01:02:21.320
<v Speaker 2>assume porn is everywhere, but it really took off, Like

1158
01:02:21.400 --> 01:02:24.320
<v Speaker 2>I never saw so much porn on that site, you know, Twitter,

1159
01:02:24.559 --> 01:02:27.320
<v Speaker 2>x whatever, until Elon took it over and said I'm

1160
01:02:27.320 --> 01:02:30.119
<v Speaker 2>gonna change things. And as soon as he did, boy,

1161
01:02:30.800 --> 01:02:33.159
<v Speaker 2>there is every kind of internet hooker on there. With

1162
01:02:33.239 --> 01:02:37.320
<v Speaker 2>private cams. There is all sorts of porno being shared.

1163
01:02:37.400 --> 01:02:40.599
<v Speaker 2>Sometimes you see their accounts disappear, you know, a day

1164
01:02:40.679 --> 01:02:43.199
<v Speaker 2>or two later, but most times the stuff keeps on

1165
01:02:43.280 --> 01:02:46.280
<v Speaker 2>and coming. Meanwhile, I think we got one of the

1166
01:02:46.360 --> 01:02:49.000
<v Speaker 2>chatters on the line, so I'm gonna go to them. Chris,

1167
01:02:49.079 --> 01:02:51.280
<v Speaker 2>put you on hold if you don't mind, and see

1168
01:02:51.320 --> 01:02:58.199
<v Speaker 2>what he's got to say. Okay, Chris, hold on, and yes,

1169
01:02:58.320 --> 01:03:03.039
<v Speaker 2>my friend, I've gone straightt Hey.

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01:03:03.519 --> 01:03:07.760
<v Speaker 19>Hey, you know I don't call in on this show

1171
01:03:08.039 --> 01:03:13.119
<v Speaker 19>very much because I I don't want to rankle people,

1172
01:03:13.159 --> 01:03:16.000
<v Speaker 19>because all I can do is heckle at this nonsense.

1173
01:03:16.400 --> 01:03:18.760
<v Speaker 19>And I know that Jimmy and BP, some of these guys,

1174
01:03:18.760 --> 01:03:21.320
<v Speaker 19>they take it all pretty serious, and I don't want

1175
01:03:21.360 --> 01:03:23.440
<v Speaker 19>to offend them if I come on. I mean, you

1176
01:03:23.480 --> 01:03:26.039
<v Speaker 19>see my comments, That's exactly what I feel about all

1177
01:03:26.039 --> 01:03:26.519
<v Speaker 19>this crap.

1178
01:03:26.840 --> 01:03:26.880
<v Speaker 6>No.

1179
01:03:27.079 --> 01:03:30.320
<v Speaker 2>I love I love your ed I love your commentary.

1180
01:03:30.599 --> 01:03:33.239
<v Speaker 2>I really do appreciate it. It's one of the few things

1181
01:03:33.239 --> 01:03:35.079
<v Speaker 2>that keeps me going when I feel like I'm being

1182
01:03:35.079 --> 01:03:37.719
<v Speaker 2>beaten over the head with Fox News. Sometimes I got

1183
01:03:37.719 --> 01:03:40.119
<v Speaker 2>to be honest with you. So, I mean, I love

1184
01:03:40.159 --> 01:03:41.639
<v Speaker 2>it when you're commenting on the chat.

1185
01:03:41.840 --> 01:03:44.119
<v Speaker 19>Jimmy didn't jump off because I pissed him off with

1186
01:03:44.159 --> 01:03:47.000
<v Speaker 19>some of my comments. I like Jimmy's. Jimmy helps me

1187
01:03:47.519 --> 01:03:50.519
<v Speaker 19>to understand that side of thinking a little better from

1188
01:03:50.519 --> 01:03:52.119
<v Speaker 19>a more intelligent perspective than.

1189
01:03:52.039 --> 01:03:53.920
<v Speaker 2>I've ever met with no, Jimmy.

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01:03:54.159 --> 01:03:55.119
<v Speaker 19>I respect Jimmy.

1191
01:03:55.199 --> 01:03:59.360
<v Speaker 2>Jimmy's extremely informative, you know, one way or another. I

1192
01:03:59.400 --> 01:04:02.360
<v Speaker 2>mean some sometimes he's got you know, some propaganda caught

1193
01:04:02.360 --> 01:04:05.440
<v Speaker 2>his wings a bit, but I mean who doesn't anymore,

1194
01:04:05.519 --> 01:04:09.360
<v Speaker 2>It's impossible. So Jimmy always informs me about a lot

1195
01:04:09.400 --> 01:04:12.920
<v Speaker 2>of things. So I appreciate his calls, you know, But

1196
01:04:13.840 --> 01:04:17.719
<v Speaker 2>sometimes when I can't escape, you know, the one thing

1197
01:04:17.880 --> 01:04:21.079
<v Speaker 2>that's going on, like this, this old thing with Zelensky today,

1198
01:04:21.280 --> 01:04:24.280
<v Speaker 2>Like I didn't even want to open up Twitter because

1199
01:04:24.360 --> 01:04:26.519
<v Speaker 2>I knew what I was going to get, you know

1200
01:04:26.519 --> 01:04:28.400
<v Speaker 2>what I mean, where it's like damn right, you know

1201
01:04:28.480 --> 01:04:31.320
<v Speaker 2>I was going to see that. And by the way,

1202
01:04:31.639 --> 01:04:33.559
<v Speaker 2>just let me ask you a quick question about other

1203
01:04:33.679 --> 01:04:35.920
<v Speaker 2>things in the media that you might have paid attention to.

1204
01:04:36.480 --> 01:04:39.960
<v Speaker 2>Did you see any of this, you know, big information

1205
01:04:40.119 --> 01:04:43.079
<v Speaker 2>dump on the Epstein files, because that was promised to

1206
01:04:43.159 --> 01:04:45.639
<v Speaker 2>us today. Did you see it, Pam BONDI is supposed

1207
01:04:45.639 --> 01:04:46.159
<v Speaker 2>to put it out.

1208
01:04:46.239 --> 01:04:50.119
<v Speaker 19>Yeah, I haven't seen it. But I haven't looked for

1209
01:04:50.159 --> 01:04:54.480
<v Speaker 19>it either, so huh, yeah, I haven't seen it for sure.

1210
01:04:54.559 --> 01:04:59.400
<v Speaker 19>I know. I try to avoid that stuff because none

1211
01:04:59.440 --> 01:05:03.159
<v Speaker 19>of it is anything I can take seriously, Like most

1212
01:05:03.239 --> 01:05:06.800
<v Speaker 19>people do. I just see it all as kind of

1213
01:05:06.880 --> 01:05:09.519
<v Speaker 19>part of a mandala of fraud, you know, like you

1214
01:05:09.559 --> 01:05:12.480
<v Speaker 19>know the mandala that has all the circle with all

1215
01:05:12.480 --> 01:05:17.559
<v Speaker 19>the different shapes and images in it and everything. Okay,

1216
01:05:17.639 --> 01:05:20.840
<v Speaker 19>It's like this complex mandala of fraud is how I

1217
01:05:20.880 --> 01:05:25.320
<v Speaker 19>see the whole media and political landscape. So it's like,

1218
01:05:25.400 --> 01:05:27.519
<v Speaker 19>I say, I like to see what people are thinking,

1219
01:05:27.639 --> 01:05:32.719
<v Speaker 19>but I personally just can't buy into it as being

1220
01:05:32.760 --> 01:05:36.559
<v Speaker 19>something I can and take seriously very much. I know

1221
01:05:36.599 --> 01:05:39.880
<v Speaker 19>I'm affected by it and what they do, but I

1222
01:05:39.920 --> 01:05:44.039
<v Speaker 19>don't think voting or marching or any of that crap

1223
01:05:44.360 --> 01:05:47.159
<v Speaker 19>changes anything or would have already. We've all done all

1224
01:05:47.159 --> 01:05:47.360
<v Speaker 19>of that.

1225
01:05:49.559 --> 01:05:52.280
<v Speaker 2>Well, I'm just reading you know, the general news articles

1226
01:05:52.280 --> 01:05:54.559
<v Speaker 2>here as I go back to it, and it's like,

1227
01:05:55.119 --> 01:05:58.159
<v Speaker 2>you know, the whole thing that everybody was touting as

1228
01:05:58.199 --> 01:06:01.320
<v Speaker 2>this is going to be the big reveal. These elite

1229
01:06:01.320 --> 01:06:03.679
<v Speaker 2>and powerful people that we never heard of are going

1230
01:06:03.760 --> 01:06:08.079
<v Speaker 2>to be exposed as the pedophile perverts they are, right,

1231
01:06:08.880 --> 01:06:11.440
<v Speaker 2>or you know, I'm always corrected by people in England

1232
01:06:11.559 --> 01:06:14.960
<v Speaker 2>the pedo files excuse me, because you know, a pedophile

1233
01:06:15.039 --> 01:06:17.239
<v Speaker 2>might be more concerned with feet. Peto is more like

1234
01:06:17.280 --> 01:06:20.760
<v Speaker 2>feet as opposed to pedo but anyway, a pedo file,

1235
01:06:20.880 --> 01:06:24.119
<v Speaker 2>whatever you want to call them. These people, you know,

1236
01:06:24.239 --> 01:06:27.360
<v Speaker 2>these scumbags that went to Rape Island, all right. You

1237
01:06:27.360 --> 01:06:29.400
<v Speaker 2>know I'm not calling it Lolite Island like a lot

1238
01:06:29.400 --> 01:06:32.199
<v Speaker 2>of other people Rape Island. And we're hooked in with

1239
01:06:32.239 --> 01:06:35.360
<v Speaker 2>the Epstein thing. Yeah, there's a whole lot of celebrities

1240
01:06:35.360 --> 01:06:38.480
<v Speaker 2>and other people, and you know there are pictures of

1241
01:06:38.480 --> 01:06:42.800
<v Speaker 2>Trump standing next to them but paying no attention to that. Okay.

1242
01:06:42.880 --> 01:06:46.280
<v Speaker 19>Well, and Trump also said that gis Lane is you know,

1243
01:06:46.639 --> 01:06:48.880
<v Speaker 19>what do you feel about gis Lane being arrested. Oh,

1244
01:06:48.920 --> 01:06:50.480
<v Speaker 19>she's a good friend. I wish her well.

1245
01:06:50.840 --> 01:06:53.400
<v Speaker 2>I wish her well with those people. That's what he

1246
01:06:53.440 --> 01:06:56.519
<v Speaker 2>said until somebody told him, and then people questioned him

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01:06:56.519 --> 01:06:58.039
<v Speaker 2>about it later he said, I don't know. I just

1248
01:06:58.079 --> 01:07:00.719
<v Speaker 2>wished her well because you know, I'm being persecuted, and

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01:07:00.719 --> 01:07:03.320
<v Speaker 2>they turned it into that. But you know, I'll go

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01:07:03.360 --> 01:07:04.199
<v Speaker 2>over it got me a.

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01:07:04.159 --> 01:07:06.480
<v Speaker 19>Lot of hot little thirteen year olds. Man, Why would

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01:07:06.480 --> 01:07:07.239
<v Speaker 19>I be against her?

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01:07:07.559 --> 01:07:10.360
<v Speaker 2>Well, see, now I didn't say that, you did it,

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01:07:10.519 --> 01:07:12.639
<v Speaker 2>but I'll get playing for it. Thanks, I said it.

1255
01:07:15.119 --> 01:07:17.360
<v Speaker 2>So let me just go to one of the most

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01:07:17.440 --> 01:07:19.719
<v Speaker 2>recent published things here and see if I can get

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01:07:20.159 --> 01:07:23.119
<v Speaker 2>a sense of what the big deal was you know

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01:07:23.159 --> 01:07:25.000
<v Speaker 2>about this, because it was a big announcement, it was

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01:07:25.000 --> 01:07:27.159
<v Speaker 2>supposed to be, you know, coming at us. And this

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01:07:27.199 --> 01:07:30.079
<v Speaker 2>is from a Vox dot com. What do you think

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01:07:30.119 --> 01:07:33.239
<v Speaker 2>of Box? Are they like really leftists over there or what?

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01:07:35.320 --> 01:07:35.679
<v Speaker 5>Oh?

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<v Speaker 19>Well, they're not on my radar. Sorry, okay, I don't

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01:07:39.159 --> 01:07:39.800
<v Speaker 19>know who they are.

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01:07:39.920 --> 01:07:41.960
<v Speaker 2>Well, Vox a lot of times has some of the

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01:07:42.119 --> 01:07:45.159
<v Speaker 2>you know, breaking news and the more controversial stuff Box

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01:07:45.199 --> 01:07:48.000
<v Speaker 2>will carry. So let's just see what they have about

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01:07:48.000 --> 01:07:51.039
<v Speaker 2>this controversy. So you don't mind, I'll just read a

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01:07:51.039 --> 01:07:53.119
<v Speaker 2>couple of sentences from this and turn it back over

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01:07:53.239 --> 01:07:57.119
<v Speaker 2>to you. The Trump administration utterly botched a hype release

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01:07:57.199 --> 01:08:01.119
<v Speaker 2>of quote Jeffrey Epstein files end quote Thursday, a saga

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01:08:01.159 --> 01:08:05.440
<v Speaker 2>that resulted in disappointment among the MAGA, faithful finger pointing

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01:08:05.519 --> 01:08:12.400
<v Speaker 2>among Trump's aides, and unsurprisingly, claims of deep state sabotage. Epstein. Now,

1274
01:08:12.599 --> 01:08:15.519
<v Speaker 2>let me ask you something. The deep state sabotage. After

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01:08:15.559 --> 01:08:18.399
<v Speaker 2>they touted that they were going to release this, PAMBONDI

1276
01:08:18.479 --> 01:08:21.760
<v Speaker 2>is their girls, She's gonna drop this. I mean, you know,

1277
01:08:21.840 --> 01:08:23.800
<v Speaker 2>are we wagging the dog or are we just letting

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01:08:23.840 --> 01:08:26.239
<v Speaker 2>them pee on the rug here anyway, back to the

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01:08:26.359 --> 01:08:30.840
<v Speaker 2>article Epstein, the well connected financier who was indicted for

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01:08:30.960 --> 01:08:35.960
<v Speaker 2>sex trafficking underage girls and died in prison in twenty nineteen. Wow,

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01:08:36.000 --> 01:08:38.760
<v Speaker 2>it's been that long. Has long been the subject of

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01:08:38.880 --> 01:08:42.600
<v Speaker 2>conspiracy theorists, and many on the right believe that the

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01:08:42.680 --> 01:08:46.239
<v Speaker 2>US government is hiding information that would implicate powerful people,

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01:08:46.760 --> 01:08:51.680
<v Speaker 2>specifically democrats and celebrities they believe related the life and

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01:08:51.720 --> 01:08:54.800
<v Speaker 2>death themselves. That's a related article, excuse me. In response

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01:08:54.840 --> 01:08:58.560
<v Speaker 2>to these demands, Attorney General Pambondy promised in a Fox

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01:08:58.600 --> 01:09:02.760
<v Speaker 2>News appearance Wednesday night that quote a lot of information

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01:09:02.920 --> 01:09:06.760
<v Speaker 2>end quote was set to be released soon. Then on Thursday,

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01:09:06.920 --> 01:09:10.159
<v Speaker 2>her team printed out a series of documents, put them

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01:09:10.159 --> 01:09:14.239
<v Speaker 2>in binders, and handed them to right wing influencers like

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01:09:14.600 --> 01:09:19.720
<v Speaker 2>Shia ratchik At liberals of TikTok, which is a weird

1292
01:09:19.800 --> 01:09:23.439
<v Speaker 2>ironic thing they do over there on Twitter x, who

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01:09:23.439 --> 01:09:26.720
<v Speaker 2>were visiting the White House. Said influencers proceeded to waive

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01:09:26.800 --> 01:09:30.520
<v Speaker 2>the binders about this sex trafficking case around in front

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01:09:30.560 --> 01:09:34.760
<v Speaker 2>of photographers while smiling, and made social media posts praising

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01:09:35.119 --> 01:09:40.560
<v Speaker 2>the administration's transparency. Naturally, the documents were a dud. One

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01:09:40.840 --> 01:09:46.359
<v Speaker 2>Epstein's contact book had been published by Gawker ten years ago. Another,

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01:09:46.600 --> 01:09:51.000
<v Speaker 2>a list of his mis sewers, was entirely redacted, and

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01:09:51.039 --> 01:09:54.359
<v Speaker 2>the other had been previously released during the twenty to

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01:09:54.479 --> 01:09:59.560
<v Speaker 2>twenty one trial of Epstein's associate Gilaine Maxwell. Nothing was

1301
01:09:59.600 --> 01:10:04.279
<v Speaker 2>new he it was all handled so incompetently that widespread

1302
01:10:04.359 --> 01:10:09.920
<v Speaker 2>biparticism mockery ensued on social media. Meanwhile, the MAGA faithful,

1303
01:10:10.399 --> 01:10:14.319
<v Speaker 2>denied their promised revelations, started to feel they've been taken

1304
01:10:14.399 --> 01:10:17.560
<v Speaker 2>for a ride, and began to wonder was this, in

1305
01:10:17.680 --> 01:10:22.159
<v Speaker 2>fact part of the cover up too? So I think

1306
01:10:22.199 --> 01:10:24.720
<v Speaker 2>that gives us a general idea of what happened here.

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01:10:25.399 --> 01:10:27.880
<v Speaker 2>A big to do was made on Wednesday, this is

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01:10:27.920 --> 01:10:30.000
<v Speaker 2>coming out, This is coming out. They even went to

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01:10:30.039 --> 01:10:34.000
<v Speaker 2>their official outlet, Fox News, the biggest one they have,

1310
01:10:34.600 --> 01:10:36.399
<v Speaker 2>and you know, because they have News Nation and a

1311
01:10:36.399 --> 01:10:39.720
<v Speaker 2>few others, but still they went there said we're waving

1312
01:10:39.760 --> 01:10:43.159
<v Speaker 2>these things around. They did an Alex Jones here, because

1313
01:10:43.239 --> 01:10:45.800
<v Speaker 2>Alex used to wave around pieces of papers. I have

1314
01:10:45.880 --> 01:10:49.239
<v Speaker 2>the documentation. It's all on the record, you know, that's

1315
01:10:49.279 --> 01:10:53.279
<v Speaker 2>his famous phrase, It's all on the record. What record

1316
01:10:53.359 --> 01:10:56.479
<v Speaker 2>Alex anyway, it's all on the record, wave around the

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01:10:56.479 --> 01:10:58.840
<v Speaker 2>pieces of paper, and then when you say, let me

1318
01:10:58.960 --> 01:11:03.800
<v Speaker 2>see this stuff, very much like people still asking me, Hey,

1319
01:11:03.880 --> 01:11:06.359
<v Speaker 2>aren't you happy they released the JFK stuff? Trump did it?

1320
01:11:06.399 --> 01:11:08.560
<v Speaker 2>Trump did it? And I go, not yet, he hasn't

1321
01:11:08.760 --> 01:11:11.199
<v Speaker 2>and I don't have it. I don't have it because

1322
01:11:11.239 --> 01:11:14.600
<v Speaker 2>the world doesn't have it yet, not done incomplete at best,

1323
01:11:15.439 --> 01:11:17.520
<v Speaker 2>and people just go, Nope, he did it, he won.

1324
01:11:18.520 --> 01:11:21.359
<v Speaker 2>So now I guess some of the extreme maga people

1325
01:11:21.359 --> 01:11:23.920
<v Speaker 2>were going, hey, we're gonna get him tomorrow. Don't worry.

1326
01:11:23.960 --> 01:11:25.960
<v Speaker 2>All the Democrats are going down tomorrow. And then they

1327
01:11:26.000 --> 01:11:31.560
<v Speaker 2>got a redacted list, a previously published address book and crap,

1328
01:11:32.600 --> 01:11:35.279
<v Speaker 2>and they went, wait a minute, maybe we're being taken

1329
01:11:35.279 --> 01:11:37.600
<v Speaker 2>per ride. Is this part of the cover up too? Well,

1330
01:11:37.600 --> 01:11:41.000
<v Speaker 2>here's the problem. Pam Bondy is your girl. Trump is

1331
01:11:41.039 --> 01:11:44.359
<v Speaker 2>your boy. Elon Musk should be able to avoid any

1332
01:11:44.399 --> 01:11:46.680
<v Speaker 2>of the tech land mines here since he's such a

1333
01:11:46.800 --> 01:11:53.560
<v Speaker 2>super genius. While Elon Musk super genius is there with

1334
01:11:53.680 --> 01:11:56.000
<v Speaker 2>those and everything else. He's the advisor, right, he's the

1335
01:11:56.039 --> 01:11:59.720
<v Speaker 2>tech support advisor. So tell me something. If you feel

1336
01:11:59.760 --> 01:12:04.680
<v Speaker 2>like been had, who had you it's like the biggie

1337
01:12:04.720 --> 01:12:08.880
<v Speaker 2>smallest thing who shot you? Right? Anyway, I'm just asking

1338
01:12:08.880 --> 01:12:11.359
<v Speaker 2>the questions, Ed, but maybe you got answers. Go ahead.

1339
01:12:11.359 --> 01:12:13.159
<v Speaker 2>Oh and I think I see Jimmy James on the

1340
01:12:13.239 --> 01:12:15.239
<v Speaker 2>line because I'm not reading anymore. So I'll get to

1341
01:12:15.319 --> 01:12:18.600
<v Speaker 2>Jimmy soon. I want to hear from Jimmyson before you

1342
01:12:18.680 --> 01:12:19.319
<v Speaker 2>bring him on.

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01:12:21.159 --> 01:12:25.800
<v Speaker 19>I think, like, like, everybody's waiting for the JFK documents,

1344
01:12:26.000 --> 01:12:28.800
<v Speaker 19>but they've been delayed and delayed for decades. Do we

1345
01:12:28.880 --> 01:12:33.359
<v Speaker 19>really believe they haven't been tampered with or whitewashed or edited? Well,

1346
01:12:33.439 --> 01:12:38.359
<v Speaker 19>same thing with Trump and Epstein. It's pretty it's established.

1347
01:12:38.399 --> 01:12:42.640
<v Speaker 19>Trump's kind of buddies with Epstein and Ghislaine. Isn't he

1348
01:12:42.760 --> 01:12:45.279
<v Speaker 19>going to edit out the damning stuff that might be

1349
01:12:45.319 --> 01:12:48.399
<v Speaker 19>in this? In this whatever they are talking about, he's

1350
01:12:48.439 --> 01:12:52.039
<v Speaker 19>going to edit that out. He's not, you know, the

1351
01:12:52.079 --> 01:12:55.119
<v Speaker 19>pedophile in chief is going to go after the pedophiles

1352
01:12:55.880 --> 01:12:58.479
<v Speaker 19>really well. See that's the thing I don't I don't

1353
01:12:58.479 --> 01:12:59.960
<v Speaker 19>think it's absurd, it's just absurd.

1354
01:13:00.159 --> 01:13:02.279
<v Speaker 2>But see, to me, Ed, I don't know what to

1355
01:13:02.319 --> 01:13:04.920
<v Speaker 2>make of anything until they actually drop a document, because

1356
01:13:04.960 --> 01:13:07.920
<v Speaker 2>I want to see the receipts. Man, this is always

1357
01:13:07.920 --> 01:13:10.119
<v Speaker 2>my thing. Like everybody tells me about what's in the

1358
01:13:10.199 --> 01:13:12.600
<v Speaker 2>JFK documents. And they got new stuff from the FBI,

1359
01:13:12.720 --> 01:13:15.439
<v Speaker 2>and I'm like, well that's great, let me see it.

1360
01:13:15.600 --> 01:13:18.640
<v Speaker 2>Let the public habit, like the low says, and you

1361
01:13:18.680 --> 01:13:20.880
<v Speaker 2>know what, I'll tell you what's in it best I can.

1362
01:13:21.560 --> 01:13:24.600
<v Speaker 2>But I can't tell you anything until it actually comes out.

1363
01:13:24.920 --> 01:13:26.840
<v Speaker 2>And they made a big to do about this and

1364
01:13:26.920 --> 01:13:30.479
<v Speaker 2>I don't know why. And again, how about the tape.

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01:13:30.479 --> 01:13:33.159
<v Speaker 19>So there's some Epstein tapes out there that I forgot

1366
01:13:33.600 --> 01:13:35.159
<v Speaker 19>that you and you were talking about that that I

1367
01:13:36.000 --> 01:13:38.319
<v Speaker 19>did hear on A on A I got off work

1368
01:13:38.399 --> 01:13:41.239
<v Speaker 19>last night, so I was looking at some stuff I

1369
01:13:41.279 --> 01:13:43.359
<v Speaker 19>was too tired to read or anything, and I came

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01:13:43.399 --> 01:13:47.399
<v Speaker 19>across a thing where they were playing some tapes apparently

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01:13:47.439 --> 01:13:51.359
<v Speaker 19>released that are supposedly Epstein, and he was talking about that.

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01:13:51.680 --> 01:13:54.319
<v Speaker 19>You know, Trump was his good friend and everything, but

1373
01:13:54.399 --> 01:13:58.600
<v Speaker 19>Trump's not that smart, That's what I remember Epstein saying

1374
01:13:58.600 --> 01:14:02.079
<v Speaker 19>about Trump. Well, you know that if they're legit, I

1375
01:14:02.079 --> 01:14:03.359
<v Speaker 19>don't even know if that stuff's legit.

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01:14:03.439 --> 01:14:05.800
<v Speaker 2>Well that's the thing now with these AI. Now, with

1377
01:14:05.880 --> 01:14:08.119
<v Speaker 2>this AI crap out there, I bet you I could

1378
01:14:08.159 --> 01:14:11.439
<v Speaker 2>get you know, Jeffrey Epstein singing, uh, you know, a

1379
01:14:11.520 --> 01:14:14.199
<v Speaker 2>black Sabbath if I wanted, you know, out of the AI.

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01:14:15.279 --> 01:14:16.479
<v Speaker 2>I'm just saying, you know.

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01:14:16.560 --> 01:14:20.159
<v Speaker 19>You don't know what there's some tapes that has supposedly

1382
01:14:20.199 --> 01:14:22.319
<v Speaker 19>been released. Is that a real thing that you've heard of?

1383
01:14:23.199 --> 01:14:26.760
<v Speaker 19>There are that the documents were talking about.

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01:14:25.760 --> 01:14:28.800
<v Speaker 2>No, No, they're not the tapes, Okay, because.

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01:14:28.640 --> 01:14:30.439
<v Speaker 19>That's what I that's what I saw last night.

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01:14:30.680 --> 01:14:34.560
<v Speaker 2>No, this was Yeah, this was allegedly a treasure trove

1387
01:14:34.640 --> 01:14:38.199
<v Speaker 2>of stuff that was held back while he was still alive,

1388
01:14:38.279 --> 01:14:40.720
<v Speaker 2>because he was still you know, the case was in progress.

1389
01:14:41.079 --> 01:14:43.760
<v Speaker 2>Delaine had not been prosecuted yet, so they were holding

1390
01:14:43.800 --> 01:14:47.520
<v Speaker 2>onto evidence. All that stuff is what was supposed to drop,

1391
01:14:47.600 --> 01:14:50.399
<v Speaker 2>we thought, And like I said, it ends up being

1392
01:14:50.439 --> 01:14:53.439
<v Speaker 2>a big dud because either the stuff was out there,

1393
01:14:53.560 --> 01:14:57.159
<v Speaker 2>or it's still totally reacted, or you know, it's nothing.

1394
01:14:57.399 --> 01:14:59.760
<v Speaker 2>So you got a big nothing out of the Epstein drop.

1395
01:15:00.520 --> 01:15:04.359
<v Speaker 2>This weirdness today with Zolensky, it almost makes me wonder,

1396
01:15:04.399 --> 01:15:07.359
<v Speaker 2>if we're trying to run two distractions during the same week,

1397
01:15:08.199 --> 01:15:10.439
<v Speaker 2>what's the real operation we're covering up?

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01:15:11.319 --> 01:15:13.760
<v Speaker 19>So, you know, really, the first I heard of it

1399
01:15:13.800 --> 01:15:16.000
<v Speaker 19>was what you played and that sure as hell sounded

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01:15:16.079 --> 01:15:18.520
<v Speaker 19>like stage stuff to me.

1401
01:15:18.720 --> 01:15:21.159
<v Speaker 2>But you know what, do I know straight from the

1402
01:15:21.159 --> 01:15:24.439
<v Speaker 2>White House feed man that that is a video feed

1403
01:15:24.479 --> 01:15:26.720
<v Speaker 2>that the White House put out. They had the camera

1404
01:15:26.760 --> 01:15:28.479
<v Speaker 2>out there. I've got the whole thing where they're setting

1405
01:15:28.560 --> 01:15:31.039
<v Speaker 2>up the camera and they're taking it down. I mean,

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01:15:31.119 --> 01:15:33.760
<v Speaker 2>I go and get the whole thing, because I don't

1407
01:15:33.840 --> 01:15:35.039
<v Speaker 2>you know, you've.

1408
01:15:34.920 --> 01:15:37.479
<v Speaker 19>Got a reality actor as a president. Though I'm sure

1409
01:15:37.520 --> 01:15:40.600
<v Speaker 19>he's this is nothing new to him.

1410
01:15:40.640 --> 01:15:43.079
<v Speaker 2>There you go, right, And like I said, I'll allow

1411
01:15:43.159 --> 01:15:43.640
<v Speaker 2>anybody to.

1412
01:15:43.840 --> 01:15:47.680
<v Speaker 19>With a CIA guy who allegedly said that they'd be successful.

1413
01:15:47.760 --> 01:15:51.039
<v Speaker 19>And I know I'm butchery it, but Casey, you know, well,

1414
01:15:51.079 --> 01:15:53.960
<v Speaker 19>we'll know where is successful. And the American people don't

1415
01:15:53.960 --> 01:15:56.960
<v Speaker 19>know what's real or not, and aren't we there now?

1416
01:15:57.479 --> 01:16:00.800
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, when they when they believe that everything is a lie,

1417
01:16:01.840 --> 01:16:05.039
<v Speaker 2>that's it. That's the gist of that quote. And a

1418
01:16:05.079 --> 01:16:07.319
<v Speaker 2>couple of people said similar things, but I think William

1419
01:16:07.359 --> 01:16:11.319
<v Speaker 2>Casey is most often credited with it. But basically that's

1420
01:16:11.359 --> 01:16:11.880
<v Speaker 2>the idea.

1421
01:16:12.039 --> 01:16:14.840
<v Speaker 19>The lady supposedly hurt him in the elevator saying, you know,

1422
01:16:14.920 --> 01:16:18.279
<v Speaker 19>when you get the American people who really don't know

1423
01:16:18.319 --> 01:16:21.479
<v Speaker 19>what's real and what's not. It will be as successful

1424
01:16:21.720 --> 01:16:23.880
<v Speaker 19>because they feel like we're there, man, we're there now.

1425
01:16:24.039 --> 01:16:28.840
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, they succeeded, absolutely true. I think we've absolutely gotten

1426
01:16:28.840 --> 01:16:32.439
<v Speaker 2>to a point where people have decided that everything is

1427
01:16:32.479 --> 01:16:34.560
<v Speaker 2>a fake. And I talked about this many times on

1428
01:16:34.600 --> 01:16:38.079
<v Speaker 2>the show. Once you got everybody thinking that everything indeed

1429
01:16:38.159 --> 01:16:41.000
<v Speaker 2>is a fake, then that means they can pick and

1430
01:16:41.079 --> 01:16:43.680
<v Speaker 2>choose what it is they believe is real and run

1431
01:16:43.720 --> 01:16:47.119
<v Speaker 2>with that. And that's all based on what what they feel. See.

1432
01:16:47.119 --> 01:16:49.399
<v Speaker 2>That's the key there. But anyway, I want to get

1433
01:16:49.439 --> 01:16:51.640
<v Speaker 2>to Jimmy James and get his honest take on today's

1434
01:16:51.680 --> 01:16:54.960
<v Speaker 2>let bring or anything else that he wants to talk about,

1435
01:16:54.960 --> 01:16:56.840
<v Speaker 2>because we got still about a half hour left and

1436
01:16:56.880 --> 01:16:58.920
<v Speaker 2>I still haven't seen a message from BP yet. So

1437
01:16:58.960 --> 01:17:02.039
<v Speaker 2>I'm running the call and show myself tonight, mostly unless

1438
01:17:02.039 --> 01:17:04.479
<v Speaker 2>he joins me at the end. But Ed, I really

1439
01:17:04.520 --> 01:17:06.920
<v Speaker 2>thank you for calling in man, and Aaron is definitely

1440
01:17:07.000 --> 01:17:09.560
<v Speaker 2>up at ten o'clock with an interesting interview, but I

1441
01:17:09.600 --> 01:17:12.359
<v Speaker 2>don't know what he's gonna do from there. Uh, So

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01:17:12.520 --> 01:17:15.159
<v Speaker 2>we'll find out at ten and eleven o'clock tonight Eastern.

1443
01:17:15.239 --> 01:17:18.000
<v Speaker 19>That is, of course, uncle on vacation. The retired guy's

1444
01:17:18.039 --> 01:17:19.880
<v Speaker 19>on vacation. I'm going to give him hell when he

1445
01:17:19.920 --> 01:17:20.359
<v Speaker 19>gets back.

1446
01:17:20.399 --> 01:17:20.520
<v Speaker 6>Man.

1447
01:17:20.560 --> 01:17:22.640
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, and we still got all those Super Bowl bets.

1448
01:17:22.880 --> 01:17:24.760
<v Speaker 2>We got a whole bunch of Super Bowl bets to

1449
01:17:24.800 --> 01:17:27.880
<v Speaker 2>sort out when he gets home. You know. See.

1450
01:17:27.960 --> 01:17:30.279
<v Speaker 19>Yeah, nobody's getting any interest out of me on that

1451
01:17:30.359 --> 01:17:32.279
<v Speaker 19>because Uncle didn't show up yet.

1452
01:17:32.640 --> 01:17:34.720
<v Speaker 2>Hey look, I don't even I don't even expect the

1453
01:17:34.800 --> 01:17:37.600
<v Speaker 2>dollar head. But it's okay. We'll go through the exercise

1454
01:17:37.640 --> 01:17:40.239
<v Speaker 2>when Uncle gets back. Anyway, let me get to Jimmy James.

1455
01:17:40.279 --> 01:17:42.279
<v Speaker 2>I don't want to keep him on hold anymore, but yeah.

1456
01:17:42.119 --> 01:17:43.960
<v Speaker 19>Get him on, Get Jimmy on serious.

1457
01:17:43.960 --> 01:17:48.159
<v Speaker 2>Thanks for you, Thank you serious, Thanks for you calling in, brother,

1458
01:17:48.359 --> 01:17:50.319
<v Speaker 2>Thank you so much, and thank you for sticking with

1459
01:17:50.399 --> 01:17:53.079
<v Speaker 2>us over the years. I appreciate you, and you too, Chris.

1460
01:17:53.079 --> 01:17:55.359
<v Speaker 2>I didn't mean I forgot to mention that to you

1461
01:17:55.439 --> 01:17:57.520
<v Speaker 2>that I know you've been a long time listener and

1462
01:17:57.560 --> 01:17:59.319
<v Speaker 2>I appreciate you. I just want you to know that,

1463
01:17:59.560 --> 01:18:04.479
<v Speaker 2>and I'll I so appreciate this guy, Jimmy James. I'm sorry, Jimmy,

1464
01:18:04.520 --> 01:18:06.520
<v Speaker 2>I kept you on hold longer than I wanted to

1465
01:18:06.640 --> 01:18:09.000
<v Speaker 2>both times. But you know, what the rest of the

1466
01:18:09.039 --> 01:18:11.520
<v Speaker 2>show might be all yours if you got plenty to say,

1467
01:18:11.600 --> 01:18:14.560
<v Speaker 2>so go ahead, brother, the floor is yours.

1468
01:18:18.520 --> 01:18:19.159
<v Speaker 1>Can you hear me?

1469
01:18:19.680 --> 01:18:23.880
<v Speaker 2>Yes, sir, I can. All right.

1470
01:18:24.079 --> 01:18:27.000
<v Speaker 1>I had to switch phones because the other one was

1471
01:18:27.159 --> 01:18:28.239
<v Speaker 1>working like crap.

1472
01:18:28.640 --> 01:18:30.600
<v Speaker 2>Okay, so you weren't mad at me. It was just

1473
01:18:30.680 --> 01:18:31.960
<v Speaker 2>like a digital malfunction.

1474
01:18:32.079 --> 01:18:38.000
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, yeah, I just it was wasn't workable. I could

1475
01:18:38.000 --> 01:18:43.039
<v Speaker 1>hear er. I could everything I was hearing from your

1476
01:18:43.159 --> 01:18:47.279
<v Speaker 1>side was sounding all crazy before I even got on,

1477
01:18:47.439 --> 01:18:50.720
<v Speaker 1>So I just hung up and fired up the other phone.

1478
01:18:50.880 --> 01:18:53.560
<v Speaker 2>Cool. Well, look crazy could have been me. But then again,

1479
01:18:53.720 --> 01:18:57.920
<v Speaker 2>electronic misadventure happens all the time. Sorry about that. I

1480
01:18:57.920 --> 01:19:01.000
<v Speaker 2>had nothing to do with it. But anyway, I'm curious.

1481
01:19:01.039 --> 01:19:03.079
<v Speaker 2>Do you have any thoughts on this? Uh, you know

1482
01:19:03.199 --> 01:19:08.079
<v Speaker 2>Zolensky event earlier, or on the Epstein mess or anything else,

1483
01:19:08.199 --> 01:19:10.439
<v Speaker 2>or you want to talk about something entirely different. It's

1484
01:19:10.439 --> 01:19:10.960
<v Speaker 2>all up to you.

1485
01:19:14.800 --> 01:19:23.640
<v Speaker 1>Well, since everyone's talking about this Zelensky deal, Well, I

1486
01:19:24.359 --> 01:19:30.399
<v Speaker 1>quasi I agree with both callers. Yeah, I think it's

1487
01:19:31.079 --> 01:19:36.479
<v Speaker 1>kind of sort of scripted, but Zelensky isn't isn't in

1488
01:19:36.640 --> 01:19:38.760
<v Speaker 1>on it.

1489
01:19:37.880 --> 01:19:41.600
<v Speaker 2>So Zelensky's not in it. Is so you agree with me

1490
01:19:41.640 --> 01:19:44.239
<v Speaker 2>where I say, he looks a little surprised then, Jimmy.

1491
01:19:44.039 --> 01:19:51.760
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, well everyone was surprised because Rubio thought that the

1492
01:19:51.840 --> 01:19:55.359
<v Speaker 1>man was ready to sign some kind of stuff and instead,

1493
01:19:55.479 --> 01:19:58.039
<v Speaker 1>I guess he made some kind of speeches as that

1494
01:19:58.359 --> 01:20:01.239
<v Speaker 1>the other thing I have and you watch just I

1495
01:20:01.399 --> 01:20:04.680
<v Speaker 1>just caught just seeing a few minutes on CNN of

1496
01:20:04.840 --> 01:20:07.399
<v Speaker 1>Rubio talked to some lady. Uh.

1497
01:20:07.439 --> 01:20:09.520
<v Speaker 2>Well, I don't know what Rubio said, but I know

1498
01:20:09.640 --> 01:20:13.039
<v Speaker 2>Zelensky kept getting cut off. He's trying to talk, and

1499
01:20:13.119 --> 01:20:15.199
<v Speaker 2>he was getting cut off left and right no matter

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01:20:15.239 --> 01:20:18.680
<v Speaker 2>what he said. He upset Trump, and Trump just went

1501
01:20:18.800 --> 01:20:21.279
<v Speaker 2>at him, you know, and uh and and also jd

1502
01:20:21.399 --> 01:20:24.640
<v Speaker 2>Vance got mad and was saying, you know, it's very disrespectful.

1503
01:20:24.640 --> 01:20:27.920
<v Speaker 2>He started with the disrespectful jd Vance if I remember correctly,

1504
01:20:28.279 --> 01:20:30.640
<v Speaker 2>but either way, both Trump and him were like, you're

1505
01:20:30.640 --> 01:20:33.359
<v Speaker 2>disrespecting us. You should be thankful. How is it that

1506
01:20:33.439 --> 01:20:35.640
<v Speaker 2>you you you have nothing to say? And then Trump's like, no,

1507
01:20:35.720 --> 01:20:38.119
<v Speaker 2>you have no cards, You're trying to talk. You're talking

1508
01:20:38.159 --> 01:20:40.680
<v Speaker 2>too much, even said to him. And it's funny because

1509
01:20:40.680 --> 01:20:43.479
<v Speaker 2>if you watch it, I think they kept cutting Zelensky off,

1510
01:20:44.680 --> 01:20:47.199
<v Speaker 2>you know, but maybe I'm wrong about that. You look

1511
01:20:47.239 --> 01:20:49.399
<v Speaker 2>at it for yourself. I mean, i'll put the link

1512
01:20:49.439 --> 01:20:52.319
<v Speaker 2>in the chat room if you like, uh so everybody

1513
01:20:52.399 --> 01:20:54.359
<v Speaker 2>can go get it. But I think it's the most

1514
01:20:54.399 --> 01:20:57.920
<v Speaker 2>complete version that's up on YouTube right now. Maybe I'll

1515
01:20:57.960 --> 01:21:01.159
<v Speaker 2>put the link there, But uh, it was kind of interesting,

1516
01:21:01.920 --> 01:21:04.319
<v Speaker 2>you know, because I've never seen that before. You got

1517
01:21:04.319 --> 01:21:07.760
<v Speaker 2>to say that guaranteed you never seen a president talk

1518
01:21:07.800 --> 01:21:10.119
<v Speaker 2>to a leader of another country like that in public

1519
01:21:10.199 --> 01:21:11.520
<v Speaker 2>before we go ahead.

1520
01:21:14.039 --> 01:21:19.800
<v Speaker 1>That's great, Obviously, I don't know. I think what we're

1521
01:21:19.840 --> 01:21:27.960
<v Speaker 1>seeing diplomacy, elementary diplomacy meets the art of the deal. Obviously,

1522
01:21:28.479 --> 01:21:31.840
<v Speaker 1>there's no way in hades that Joe Biden or any

1523
01:21:31.880 --> 01:21:37.159
<v Speaker 1>of them clowns could ever speak to Putin. I mean,

1524
01:21:37.560 --> 01:21:41.279
<v Speaker 1>how can you after you call the guy every name

1525
01:21:41.319 --> 01:21:45.600
<v Speaker 1>in the book, this, that, and everything. It's all about posturing.

1526
01:21:46.119 --> 01:21:52.560
<v Speaker 1>I don't know, but I think there's if you're going

1527
01:21:52.600 --> 01:21:56.159
<v Speaker 1>to negotiate a piece there, you have to come from

1528
01:21:56.199 --> 01:22:03.960
<v Speaker 1>a somewhat plausible neutral play in america's just been sewing

1529
01:22:04.079 --> 01:22:09.159
<v Speaker 1>the bag for one side. If you were Russia, would

1530
01:22:09.199 --> 01:22:11.119
<v Speaker 1>you trust us to broker peace?

1531
01:22:12.079 --> 01:22:15.079
<v Speaker 2>Well, if I was, If I was Vladimir if I

1532
01:22:15.119 --> 01:22:18.680
<v Speaker 2>was Vladimir Putin, I would trust Trump to uh protect

1533
01:22:18.680 --> 01:22:21.600
<v Speaker 2>my interest because he's getting angry and bringing out the

1534
01:22:22.199 --> 01:22:26.079
<v Speaker 2>exact talking points that Putin is using. Plus still complaining

1535
01:22:26.119 --> 01:22:28.000
<v Speaker 2>about the Russia rush of Russia. I don't know if

1536
01:22:28.000 --> 01:22:29.960
<v Speaker 2>you heard that part. I played it on the show here.

1537
01:22:30.840 --> 01:22:33.760
<v Speaker 2>Uh you know, still complaining about that and saying, you know,

1538
01:22:33.920 --> 01:22:36.720
<v Speaker 2>this is ridiculous, and uh, this guy's been He was

1539
01:22:36.960 --> 01:22:40.640
<v Speaker 2>sympathizing with Putin right there in front of Zelenski. So

1540
01:22:40.760 --> 01:22:44.159
<v Speaker 2>I would say that if you believe Trump's public pronouncements,

1541
01:22:44.159 --> 01:22:47.600
<v Speaker 2>and you're Vladimir Putin right now, yeah, I would say

1542
01:22:47.600 --> 01:22:50.720
<v Speaker 2>I would trust him being the guy to be on

1543
01:22:50.760 --> 01:22:56.399
<v Speaker 2>your side on the negotiating table. I would say, so, yeah, good.

1544
01:22:56.640 --> 01:23:00.560
<v Speaker 1>I hope Putin believes that. Something tells me he's not

1545
01:23:00.640 --> 01:23:02.079
<v Speaker 1>as dumb as the Americans.

1546
01:23:03.119 --> 01:23:05.880
<v Speaker 2>Oh, I guarantee you you're correct. I you know what

1547
01:23:06.039 --> 01:23:10.279
<v Speaker 2>I so, I have never agreed with you more than

1548
01:23:10.600 --> 01:23:13.119
<v Speaker 2>with what you just said and anything you've ever said

1549
01:23:13.119 --> 01:23:18.000
<v Speaker 2>on this show. One thousand percent. Putin is a lot

1550
01:23:18.119 --> 01:23:22.479
<v Speaker 2>smarter than anybody that we have sent to that table

1551
01:23:22.560 --> 01:23:25.960
<v Speaker 2>since he's been in control of Russia. I promise you

1552
01:23:26.039 --> 01:23:31.239
<v Speaker 2>that he's been smarter the entire time, Yes, sir, absolutely.

1553
01:23:31.279 --> 01:23:34.000
<v Speaker 2>I mean, remember the people they brought before Congress that

1554
01:23:34.079 --> 01:23:36.680
<v Speaker 2>were you know, the Russian ambassadors and all that, please,

1555
01:23:37.119 --> 01:23:40.119
<v Speaker 2>they were the best, and our presidents and everything else

1556
01:23:40.239 --> 01:23:44.239
<v Speaker 2>have been nothing but an unmitigated disaster when dealing with Putin,

1557
01:23:44.239 --> 01:23:47.800
<v Speaker 2>they were out played at every single step. In my mind,

1558
01:23:48.520 --> 01:23:51.920
<v Speaker 2>but maybe that's just me. You know, ever since they

1559
01:23:52.000 --> 01:23:54.520
<v Speaker 2>lost ground to Clinton, and that's when Putin was not

1560
01:23:54.680 --> 01:23:57.359
<v Speaker 2>in charge. But since Putin's been in charge, he has

1561
01:23:57.399 --> 01:24:01.039
<v Speaker 2>had the absolute intellectual advantage over the US in my mind.

1562
01:24:01.720 --> 01:24:03.640
<v Speaker 2>So I agree with you one thousand percent there.

1563
01:24:06.439 --> 01:24:11.960
<v Speaker 1>Yes, he's gained ground under every single president in the

1564
01:24:12.000 --> 01:24:18.520
<v Speaker 1>twenty first century except Trump until now. Because obviously they're

1565
01:24:18.560 --> 01:24:23.159
<v Speaker 1>gonna cut a deal to try to quit the killing

1566
01:24:23.199 --> 01:24:28.000
<v Speaker 1>in Ukraine, and I hope they do. That's one of

1567
01:24:28.039 --> 01:24:31.560
<v Speaker 1>my big things. And it looks like the JFK documents

1568
01:24:31.600 --> 01:24:34.199
<v Speaker 1>they're gonna they're trying to find them and release, and

1569
01:24:34.439 --> 01:24:39.600
<v Speaker 1>I guess, yeah, well all those things are done, I'll

1570
01:24:39.640 --> 01:24:41.960
<v Speaker 1>be a lot happier than I am right now.

1571
01:24:42.760 --> 01:24:45.359
<v Speaker 2>See, you got to admit that everybody that you know

1572
01:24:45.600 --> 01:24:48.359
<v Speaker 2>was jumping up and down and saying look, it's already done.

1573
01:24:48.439 --> 01:24:52.039
<v Speaker 2>I mean, Jimmy, you're realistic. You know that they haven't

1574
01:24:52.079 --> 01:24:56.600
<v Speaker 2>done crap yet. But if you believe they're gonna that's

1575
01:24:56.640 --> 01:24:58.640
<v Speaker 2>another thing, because I don't know what the future is.

1576
01:24:58.680 --> 01:25:01.600
<v Speaker 2>But right now, well, they don't tell me about what

1577
01:25:01.600 --> 01:25:05.640
<v Speaker 2>they've done because they've done nothing, basically except make a

1578
01:25:05.680 --> 01:25:10.560
<v Speaker 2>couple of pronouncements and that executive order, right, and that's it.

1579
01:25:10.800 --> 01:25:13.960
<v Speaker 2>There has been no progress for revelations. We haven't seen

1580
01:25:14.920 --> 01:25:18.520
<v Speaker 2>any brand new information or new documentation yet. Now I

1581
01:25:18.560 --> 01:25:21.560
<v Speaker 2>give them time because I know you can't do it overnight,

1582
01:25:21.800 --> 01:25:25.000
<v Speaker 2>but you know, don't tell me about what they've already

1583
01:25:25.000 --> 01:25:27.279
<v Speaker 2>done because they haven't done it yet. I mean, you

1584
01:25:27.319 --> 01:25:28.279
<v Speaker 2>agree with that, don't you.

1585
01:25:31.800 --> 01:25:35.199
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, about the biggest news I've heard, and it's not

1586
01:25:35.319 --> 01:25:39.399
<v Speaker 1>really news because they've always come up with this figure

1587
01:25:39.479 --> 01:25:43.079
<v Speaker 1>that there's twenty five hundred documents that they won't release,

1588
01:25:43.960 --> 01:25:49.880
<v Speaker 1>and now the FBI says, oh, we found twenty four hundred. Yeah, okay, fine,

1589
01:25:50.000 --> 01:25:52.640
<v Speaker 1>that's a good start. And that does come to one

1590
01:25:52.760 --> 01:25:56.319
<v Speaker 1>hundred and forty thousand pages, which will take all of

1591
01:25:56.399 --> 01:25:58.840
<v Speaker 1>us the rest of our lives, I guess to read.

1592
01:25:59.720 --> 01:26:02.560
<v Speaker 2>Well, there's already more than five million pages in the

1593
01:26:02.920 --> 01:26:06.359
<v Speaker 2>in the JFK Documents collection. These are numbers we know,

1594
01:26:07.880 --> 01:26:10.840
<v Speaker 2>so you know they add another one hundred and forty thousand. Great,

1595
01:26:11.520 --> 01:26:15.399
<v Speaker 2>But the FBI thing is actually separate from the predetermined

1596
01:26:15.479 --> 01:26:18.800
<v Speaker 2>other documents they were talking about, you know, because the

1597
01:26:18.840 --> 01:26:23.520
<v Speaker 2>documentation with the FBI is supposedly newly discovered stuff. The

1598
01:26:23.600 --> 01:26:26.560
<v Speaker 2>other ones were examined. We do know the numbers because

1599
01:26:26.560 --> 01:26:31.359
<v Speaker 2>the AARRB did the work, and it's just the delayed

1600
01:26:31.399 --> 01:26:35.079
<v Speaker 2>release that we're dealing with there. So the FBI thing

1601
01:26:35.319 --> 01:26:39.560
<v Speaker 2>is allegedly brand new documentation. I say allegedly because we

1602
01:26:39.720 --> 01:26:43.760
<v Speaker 2>have yet to publicly see it. So they may have

1603
01:26:44.000 --> 01:26:46.760
<v Speaker 2>added to the record here if they're going to reveal

1604
01:26:47.039 --> 01:26:49.239
<v Speaker 2>new FBI documents, right.

1605
01:26:52.760 --> 01:26:56.960
<v Speaker 1>If it's truly stuff that, as you say, was unlest

1606
01:26:57.199 --> 01:27:02.119
<v Speaker 1>already known, I mean, have a coincidence that there's twenty

1607
01:27:02.119 --> 01:27:07.720
<v Speaker 1>five hundred known documents the FBI was withholding. Oh look,

1608
01:27:07.760 --> 01:27:11.760
<v Speaker 1>we found twenty four hundred. Well, golly, that's awful close

1609
01:27:11.840 --> 01:27:17.199
<v Speaker 1>to the twelve five hundred that I've heard cited over

1610
01:27:17.319 --> 01:27:18.760
<v Speaker 1>and over and over again.

1611
01:27:19.199 --> 01:27:19.399
<v Speaker 2>Yeah.

1612
01:27:19.479 --> 01:27:23.279
<v Speaker 1>Plus I've always heard something about fifteen thousand documents. What's

1613
01:27:23.319 --> 01:27:23.760
<v Speaker 1>that then?

1614
01:27:24.560 --> 01:27:27.600
<v Speaker 2>Well, that was the original pocket of stuff that they

1615
01:27:27.600 --> 01:27:29.800
<v Speaker 2>were supposed to release, but they had to readjust the

1616
01:27:29.880 --> 01:27:34.840
<v Speaker 2>number because the last time when the Biden and Trump

1617
01:27:34.920 --> 01:27:39.479
<v Speaker 2>administrations did a couple of massive document dumps, they released

1618
01:27:39.600 --> 01:27:43.479
<v Speaker 2>a bunch of NSA documentation that wasn't on anybody's list,

1619
01:27:44.680 --> 01:27:47.840
<v Speaker 2>and so there was new NSA stuff that just magically

1620
01:27:47.840 --> 01:27:50.119
<v Speaker 2>appeared in the record. And quite honestly, there's been no

1621
01:27:50.199 --> 01:27:55.840
<v Speaker 2>satisfactory explanation for how that magically appeared. It wasn't planned

1622
01:27:55.880 --> 01:27:58.600
<v Speaker 2>to be released, it wasn't part of the ARRB list

1623
01:27:58.680 --> 01:28:02.880
<v Speaker 2>or anything, and it just peered. So that changed the

1624
01:28:02.920 --> 01:28:06.840
<v Speaker 2>numbers from the fifteen hundred to the twenty five hundred

1625
01:28:06.920 --> 01:28:10.199
<v Speaker 2>or twenty four hundred or whatever. And now we're looking

1626
01:28:10.239 --> 01:28:13.239
<v Speaker 2>at well about five thousand, because you got twenty four

1627
01:28:13.359 --> 01:28:17.119
<v Speaker 2>hundred new ones from the FBI allegedly, and the twenty

1628
01:28:17.159 --> 01:28:21.520
<v Speaker 2>five hundred still as yet withheld from the arrb's work.

1629
01:28:22.279 --> 01:28:25.079
<v Speaker 2>Plus that doesn't account for anything new. That's not even

1630
01:28:25.119 --> 01:28:29.640
<v Speaker 2>new stuff except the FBI maybe. But then again, if

1631
01:28:29.680 --> 01:28:32.399
<v Speaker 2>they're unaware of what was already released, they might be

1632
01:28:32.479 --> 01:28:35.800
<v Speaker 2>releasing redundant crap. And I don't know because I haven't

1633
01:28:35.840 --> 01:28:38.840
<v Speaker 2>seen it yet. You know what I mean. I'm withholding judgment,

1634
01:28:39.479 --> 01:28:42.439
<v Speaker 2>and even Jeff Morley is now saying, you know, hey,

1635
01:28:42.479 --> 01:28:46.039
<v Speaker 2>look calm down, everybody, because nothing new has come out.

1636
01:28:47.239 --> 01:28:51.000
<v Speaker 2>You know, they're having to repeat this over and over again.

1637
01:28:51.520 --> 01:28:55.319
<v Speaker 2>It's getting weird. But look, I don't expect anything to

1638
01:28:55.359 --> 01:28:59.000
<v Speaker 2>happen instantaneously. And look at me. I'm gonna tell you

1639
01:28:59.199 --> 01:29:03.199
<v Speaker 2>be patient with the Trump administration because they can't possibly

1640
01:29:03.520 --> 01:29:05.960
<v Speaker 2>have the ability to dump this stuff out there immediately

1641
01:29:06.760 --> 01:29:09.359
<v Speaker 2>unless there was a whole bunch of planning done in advance.

1642
01:29:11.319 --> 01:29:12.600
<v Speaker 2>So is that true or not?

1643
01:29:12.720 --> 01:29:19.359
<v Speaker 1>Jimmy, Yeah, yes, even if everyone truly intends to find

1644
01:29:19.399 --> 01:29:22.760
<v Speaker 1>these documents, it's going to take years. It'll take twenty years.

1645
01:29:22.840 --> 01:29:26.560
<v Speaker 1>There's stuff literally and safes probably in that god forsake

1646
01:29:26.640 --> 01:29:27.279
<v Speaker 1>of building.

1647
01:29:27.479 --> 01:29:29.920
<v Speaker 2>Well that's the other thing. But the funny part is

1648
01:29:29.960 --> 01:29:33.039
<v Speaker 2>that that twenty five hundred, you know, that that original piece,

1649
01:29:33.119 --> 01:29:35.720
<v Speaker 2>we were waiting for that for more than twenty five years.

1650
01:29:36.199 --> 01:29:41.159
<v Speaker 2>The twenty five year period ended in twenty seventeen, you know,

1651
01:29:41.399 --> 01:29:43.920
<v Speaker 2>so they not only had this for the sixty years

1652
01:29:43.960 --> 01:29:46.560
<v Speaker 2>plus now, but they had it for twenty five years,

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01:29:46.680 --> 01:29:51.640
<v Speaker 2>allegedly already having been reviewed, already having been negotiated with

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<v Speaker 2>the different agencies. Give us this, give us that. Oh

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<v Speaker 2>you got to show us why or why not this

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01:29:56.880 --> 01:29:59.279
<v Speaker 2>can or can't be released. All that stuff was done

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<v Speaker 2>in the mid nineties, and we waited till twenty seventeen.

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<v Speaker 2>A lot of US researchers waited, waited, waited, can't wait

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<v Speaker 2>till twenty seventeen. We've been saying that since the late nineties,

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<v Speaker 2>and twenty seventeen came. And you've heard me tell that story.

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<v Speaker 2>So what can I tell you? But it is what

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<v Speaker 2>it is. And like I said, Trump kicked the can

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01:30:17.159 --> 01:30:19.479
<v Speaker 2>down the road, Biden tried to take the can off

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<v Speaker 2>the road, and that's the way that went for the

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01:30:22.439 --> 01:30:25.720
<v Speaker 2>ARB stuff. But the as yet undiscovered god knows what.

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<v Speaker 2>And oh, by the way, where the hell is Gail

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01:30:28.159 --> 01:30:31.079
<v Speaker 2>knick Jackson's film? And oh, by the way, how about

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<v Speaker 2>we get those Joe and Edes documents finally, since he's

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<v Speaker 2>been dead for twenty years. You know, come on already, right,

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, let's get to it and get it done.

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<v Speaker 2>And actually, you know, follow what the law says. You know,

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<v Speaker 2>how about that? Can we hold these agencies accountable to

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01:30:48.319 --> 01:30:51.880
<v Speaker 2>the legal structure that was there through the JFK Records

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<v Speaker 2>Collection Act. Can we do it? I don't know. We'll see,

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<v Speaker 2>won't we.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, I believe the bureaucracy's being starting to be examined

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<v Speaker 1>pretty thoroughly right now for the first time ever.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, if it's not being examined, it's definitely being at

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01:31:13.520 --> 01:31:16.560
<v Speaker 2>least in part dismantled. So it should remove some of

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<v Speaker 2>the red tape somehow.

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<v Speaker 1>Right, Bless people working for that bureaucracies of mighty mighty

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<v Speaker 1>Fine start. Can't argue with you, Yeah, sorry, it's a job. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>another one you're crying.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, Look, can't argue with you there. I just hope

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01:31:39.119 --> 01:31:41.079
<v Speaker 2>they don't get rid of the key people, because there

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01:31:41.119 --> 01:31:43.880
<v Speaker 2>are such a thing as key peoples in those bureaucracies.

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01:31:44.359 --> 01:31:46.119
<v Speaker 2>But there is a whole lot of people that could

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01:31:46.159 --> 01:31:49.199
<v Speaker 2>probably be sent back, And you know, I hope the

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<v Speaker 2>private sector has something for him to do, because I think,

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01:31:51.600 --> 01:31:54.359
<v Speaker 2>like I was talking with a caller earlier, we're gonna

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<v Speaker 2>see chat GPT being utilized for a lot of jobs

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01:31:57.039 --> 01:32:00.680
<v Speaker 2>pretty soon anyway. So I don't know, somebody's got to

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01:32:00.680 --> 01:32:03.520
<v Speaker 2>get to something here anyway. Jimmy, you know what I'm

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01:32:03.520 --> 01:32:05.279
<v Speaker 2>gonna do. I'm gonna put you on hold. We got

1695
01:32:05.279 --> 01:32:08.479
<v Speaker 2>a few callers on hold, and UH gonna put you

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01:32:08.560 --> 01:32:09.960
<v Speaker 2>to hang there for a minute because I know we

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01:32:10.039 --> 01:32:12.119
<v Speaker 2>heard from you. We got a few minutes left, but

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<v Speaker 2>I think I'm gonna take a quick break and see

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<v Speaker 2>if i can get my co host on for the

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<v Speaker 2>last part before we join Aaron Franz in The Age

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<v Speaker 2>of Transitions at ten pm Eastern here on o'chelli dot

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<v Speaker 2>com Radio. But if you want to join in during

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<v Speaker 2>the last part of the show, please do. We got

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<v Speaker 2>more than fifteen minutes left as I speak, so three

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<v Speaker 2>one nine five two seven five zero one six. And

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<v Speaker 2>if you guys don't join me at three one nine

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<v Speaker 2>five two seven five zero one six, I'll just go

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<v Speaker 2>back through the callers who have remained on hold and

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<v Speaker 2>see if they have anything to add anyway. Three one

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<v Speaker 2>nine five two seven five zero one six. The Ocelli

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<v Speaker 2>Effect open Mic Friday Night, where we return after.

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<v Speaker 15>Do you like history? Real history? Think you were never

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<v Speaker 15>are taught in schools? Why the Vietnam War Nuclear Bombs

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<v Speaker 15>in nation Building in Southeast Asia by author Mike Swanson

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<v Speaker 15>with new documentation never seen before that'll open your eyes

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<v Speaker 15>to events that led up to this Why the Vietnam

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<v Speaker 15>War Nuclear Bombs in nation Building in Southeast Asia, nineteen

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<v Speaker 15>forty five through nineteen sixty one. Get your copy today

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<v Speaker 20>Swanson, stoy Apple, stroy Apple, Oistroy Apple, stroy Apple, Stroy

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<v Speaker 20>Applesjoying Apple, Restroy ohit oi oy oy oy o.

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<v Speaker 3>Wait wait.

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<v Speaker 2>Anyway? Oh well a whoops. I'm trying to message people

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<v Speaker 2>and talk and this and that. But yeah, let's give

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01:34:07.680 --> 01:34:09.840
<v Speaker 2>you some audio to work with. How about that? Back

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<v Speaker 2>on Neochlly Effect Live Friday Night Open Mic and here

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<v Speaker 2>it is, Hi, Vladimir.

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<v Speaker 6>How are we doing under deals that doesn't work that way?

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<v Speaker 6>I'm not align with Putin, I'm not aligned with anybody.

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<v Speaker 10>I'm aligned with the United States of America and for

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01:34:24.399 --> 01:34:27.720
<v Speaker 10>the good of the world, I'm aligned with the world,

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01:34:28.039 --> 01:34:29.439
<v Speaker 10>and I want to get this thing over with.

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<v Speaker 6>You see the hatred he's got for a Putin. It's

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<v Speaker 6>very tough for me to make a deal with that

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<v Speaker 6>kind of hate. He's got tremendous hatred and I understand that.

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<v Speaker 10>But I can tell you the other side is exactly

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<v Speaker 10>in love.

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<v Speaker 6>With you know himy.

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<v Speaker 2>Their country's been getting pounded for three years. In love

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<v Speaker 2>with it.

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<v Speaker 10>I'm aligned with the world. I want to get the

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<v Speaker 10>things set. I'm aligned with Europe. I want to see

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<v Speaker 10>if we can get this thing done. You want me

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<v Speaker 10>to be tough. I could be tougher than any human

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<v Speaker 10>being you've ever seen.

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<v Speaker 6>I'd be so tough. But you're never going to get

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01:35:01.159 --> 01:35:03.159
<v Speaker 6>a deal that way. So that's the way it goes.

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<v Speaker 6>One more question, Hey, I would respond to this.

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<v Speaker 8>So look for four years of the United States of America,

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<v Speaker 8>we had a president who stood up at press conferences

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01:35:12.239 --> 01:35:16.680
<v Speaker 8>and talked tough about Vladimir Putin. Putin invaded Ukraine and

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01:35:16.760 --> 01:35:19.880
<v Speaker 8>destroyed a significant chunk of the country. The path to

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<v Speaker 8>peace and the path to prosperity is maybe engaging in diplomacy.

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<v Speaker 8>We tried the pathway of Joe Biden, of thumping our

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<v Speaker 8>chest and pretending that the President of the United States's

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<v Speaker 8>words mattered more than the President of the United States's actions.

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<v Speaker 8>What makes America a good country is America engaging in diplomacy.

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<v Speaker 6>That's what President Trump is doing. Can I ask you sure?

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah?

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<v Speaker 5>Yeah, okay, So he occupied it, our parts make parts

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<v Speaker 5>of Ukraine, parts off East and crimea. So he occupied

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<v Speaker 5>it on twenty fifteen. During a lot of years, I'm

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<v Speaker 5>not speaking about just byden but those times was Obama,

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<v Speaker 5>then President Obama, then President Trump, then President Biden, now

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<v Speaker 5>President Trump and God bless now President Trump will stop him.

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<v Speaker 5>But during twenty fifteen, nobody stopped him. He just occupied

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<v Speaker 5>and took He killed people. You know what the contact

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<v Speaker 5>twenty fifteen, twenty.

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<v Speaker 6>Twenty fourty so how would he kills that here? Yeah?

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<v Speaker 5>By the second yes, But during twenty fourteen till twenty

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<v Speaker 5>twenty two, you know what, the situation the same that

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<v Speaker 5>people have been dying on the contact line.

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<v Speaker 6>Nobody stopped him.

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<v Speaker 5>You know that we had conversations with him, a lot

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<v Speaker 5>of conversations, my elateral conversation, and we signed.

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<v Speaker 6>With him, me like a you president.

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<v Speaker 5>In twenty nineteen, I signed with him the deal I

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<v Speaker 5>signed with him. Macron and Mayor kill we signed ceasefire, ceasefire.

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<v Speaker 5>All of them told me that he will never go.

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<v Speaker 5>We signed him with guess contract. Guess contract, yes, But

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<v Speaker 5>after that he broken this his fire. He killed a

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<v Speaker 5>lot of people, and he didn't exchange prisoners. We signed

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<v Speaker 5>the exchange of prisons, but.

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<v Speaker 6>He didn't do it.

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<v Speaker 5>What kind of diplomacy jg us Pcambo what what do

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<v Speaker 5>you what do you mean?

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<v Speaker 8>I'm talking about the kind of diplomacy that's going to

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<v Speaker 8>end the destruction of your country. Yes, but President, mister President,

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<v Speaker 8>with respect, I think it's disrespectful for you to come

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<v Speaker 8>into the Oval Office to try to litigate this in

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<v Speaker 8>front of the American media. Right now, you guys are

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<v Speaker 8>going around and forcing conscripts to the front lines because

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<v Speaker 8>you have manpower problems.

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<v Speaker 3>You should be.

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<v Speaker 8>Thanking the president for them trying to bring it into

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<v Speaker 8>this content into.

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<v Speaker 6>Ukraine that you say, what problems we have?

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<v Speaker 8>I have been to I've actually I've actually watched and

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01:37:52.920 --> 01:37:55.760
<v Speaker 8>seen the stories, and I know what happens is you

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01:37:55.800 --> 01:37:57.399
<v Speaker 8>bring people, you bring them on.

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<v Speaker 6>A propaganda tour.

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<v Speaker 8>Mister President, are do you disagree that you've had problems

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<v Speaker 8>like bringing people in your military have brand?

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<v Speaker 6>Do you think that suspect for holdons to come to

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<v Speaker 6>the Oval Office of.

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<v Speaker 8>The United States of America and attack the administration that

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01:38:10.239 --> 01:38:12.680
<v Speaker 8>is trying to trying to prevent the destruction of your

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<v Speaker 8>country onto.

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<v Speaker 2>Go ahead, call it.

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<v Speaker 3>I'm in the truth about the JFA assassination.

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<v Speaker 2>Right Well, what do you want to know Judy.

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<v Speaker 1>Baker's wild claim Oswal girlfriends he knew Ruby and Barry

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<v Speaker 1>answer weapons, Really.

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<v Speaker 2>I imagine I could claim I have four wheels. It

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<v Speaker 2>doesn't make me a wagon.

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<v Speaker 1>But okay, Oswal was on the building and trying to

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<v Speaker 1>prevent the murder of John Kennedy.

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<v Speaker 3>Come on now has a real effort.

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<v Speaker 12>On the DAFA assassination book into flaim.

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<v Speaker 2>Go to Amazon dot com, enter Judith Baker in her

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01:38:50.640 --> 01:38:53.520
<v Speaker 2>own words. You'll get the results for a digital copy

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01:38:53.560 --> 01:38:57.039
<v Speaker 2>of a book where Walt Brown utilizes her own words

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01:38:57.079 --> 01:38:59.880
<v Speaker 2>and the known evidence in the case to get at

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01:39:00.119 --> 01:39:03.520
<v Speaker 2>well a different perspective. Let's say you can get Judith

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01:39:03.560 --> 01:39:06.840
<v Speaker 2>Barry Baker in her own words from the author himself

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<v Speaker 2>signed if you request it by contacting doctor Brown at

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<v Speaker 2>kias jfk at aol dot com. It's a fun book

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<v Speaker 2>and it actually dissects the many, many fantastic claims Judith

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01:39:19.720 --> 01:39:24.399
<v Speaker 2>Arry Baker in her own words information. The views expressed

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<v Speaker 2>by caller Storms or anyone else who happens to get

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01:39:26.279 --> 01:39:28.039
<v Speaker 2>on the air to Jelly dot com do not necessarily

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<v Speaker 2>reflect the views of Jelly dot com or job o Jelly,

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<v Speaker 2>and we are not responsible for getting stupidity, which might

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<v Speaker 2>ensue Thank you.

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<v Speaker 13>The War State by Michael Swanson explains the great national

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01:39:37.960 --> 01:39:40.960
<v Speaker 13>transformation that took place and put the Kennedy presidency in

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<v Speaker 13>the context of the times and reveals never before published

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<v Speaker 13>information about the Cuban missile crisis. President Kennedy would not

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<v Speaker 13>have been assassinated if he had been president two hundred

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<v Speaker 13>years ago. His assassination took place in the context of

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<v Speaker 13>the Cold War and the rise of the national security state.

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<v Speaker 13>Before World War II, the United States was a con

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<v Speaker 13>final republic. In the decade that followed, it became an

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<v Speaker 13>imperial superpower. Generals such as Curtis LeMay not only wanted

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<v Speaker 13>to invade Cuba, but knew that there were short range

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<v Speaker 13>missiles on the island aren't with nuclear warheads that they

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<v Speaker 13>could not destroy because they were on mobile launchers. Their

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<v Speaker 13>invasion could have led to a Third World War, and

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<v Speaker 13>they wanted to go to war anyway. The War State

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<v Speaker 13>by Michael Swanson reveals why, and we'll show you what

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<v Speaker 13>President Kennedy was up against. For more information, The Warstate

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<v Speaker 13>dot com.

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<v Speaker 4>Uncle, do you remember that time when Benjamin Fulford said

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<v Speaker 4>that an Asian secret society was going to dispatch Ninja's

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<v Speaker 4>to take down the Illuminati.

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<v Speaker 3>Ooh that's interesting.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah in the klatoon.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah did that ever work out too good?

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<v Speaker 6>No?

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<v Speaker 4>It didn't, did it? But here on o'chelly dot com

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<v Speaker 4>Radio network things work out a bit better, don't they?

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<v Speaker 2>Much better? Much? Men?

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<v Speaker 20>Is clue in understanding about the programs. The programs much clear,

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01:41:00.960 --> 01:41:04.960
<v Speaker 20>getting live people into it. They really have a good

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01:41:05.039 --> 01:41:08.560
<v Speaker 20>conversation going much better, much better scene.

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<v Speaker 4>I say, forget Benjamin Fulford and his ninches and listen

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<v Speaker 4>to the o'chelly dot com Radio Network.

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<v Speaker 20>I agree, it's straight to the point, straight talk, and I.

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<v Speaker 2>Like that idea.

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<v Speaker 21>Oh Chilly dot com, Oh Chili dot com.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, final open mic night, you know, segment here on

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01:41:39.520 --> 01:41:42.000
<v Speaker 2>the Friday night open Mic Show, and we're gonna get

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01:41:42.000 --> 01:41:44.600
<v Speaker 2>to Aaron Franz on the Age of Transitions coming up

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<v Speaker 2>at ten pm Eastern or thereabouts. Anyway. What I want

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01:41:47.960 --> 01:41:49.960
<v Speaker 2>to do first, though, is go back to the phone lines,

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01:41:50.000 --> 01:41:52.800
<v Speaker 2>take a look, see who's there, and whoever's there can

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<v Speaker 2>join us live again. It looks like only Jimmy James

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01:41:56.720 --> 01:41:58.880
<v Speaker 2>has remained. I guess he's the only one who wanted

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<v Speaker 2>to get in some final words this week, so we'll

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<v Speaker 2>give it to him. I never did catch back up

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<v Speaker 2>with b Pete. I guess he didn't make it home

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<v Speaker 2>in time. Hopefully all is well and he'll be okay

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<v Speaker 2>and with us next week. Guess we'll see. But be

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<v Speaker 2>Pete brother, hope you're doing good. And Jimmy James, I

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<v Speaker 2>hope you're doing good too. You're back to the open

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<v Speaker 2>mic and you're the only caller that remained on the line.

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<v Speaker 2>Anybody could join us three one nine five two seven

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<v Speaker 2>five zero one six. There's a few minutes left, and

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<v Speaker 2>I'll give you priority if you join us here at

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<v Speaker 2>the end. Three one nine five two seven five zero

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<v Speaker 2>one six.

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<v Speaker 22>Jimmy, any thoughts, Yes, I miss uncle and his show,

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01:42:41.439 --> 01:42:45.039
<v Speaker 22>so I'm gonna make this complain on your show.

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<v Speaker 1>I think it is outrageous what the Rams are doing

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01:42:49.920 --> 01:42:52.159
<v Speaker 1>is doing to Matthew Stafford.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh what happened?

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<v Speaker 1>They're gonna trade him to them Jets. They're gonna trade

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01:42:56.560 --> 01:42:59.640
<v Speaker 1>him to the Jets for that. Aaron Rodgers. Oh, really,

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01:43:00.000 --> 01:43:05.159
<v Speaker 1>shame on the Rams for treat Matthew Stafford that way.

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01:43:05.399 --> 01:43:07.960
<v Speaker 2>Well, explain to me what the I don't know who

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01:43:08.000 --> 01:43:10.640
<v Speaker 2>Matthew Stafford is I don't know anything about it. Tell

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01:43:10.680 --> 01:43:12.279
<v Speaker 2>me what the travesty is, please.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, Matthew Stafford was a longtime quarterback for the Lions

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01:43:19.760 --> 01:43:22.359
<v Speaker 1>and then he got traded to the Rams and we

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01:43:22.479 --> 01:43:27.119
<v Speaker 1>took their quarterback. Matthew Stafford won them a Super Bowl

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<v Speaker 1>ring like in twenty twenty.

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<v Speaker 2>Wow, Okay, the.

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01:43:33.039 --> 01:43:36.880
<v Speaker 1>Year right after they got him. We're still working with

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01:43:37.119 --> 01:43:40.039
<v Speaker 1>their guy and we're doing pretty good. And I just

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<v Speaker 1>think it's pretty disrespectful of the Rams to be trying

1911
01:43:43.640 --> 01:43:46.359
<v Speaker 1>to pawn them off to the Jets to get that

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<v Speaker 1>old broken down Aaron Rodgers, you're going to get the

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01:43:49.279 --> 01:43:50.399
<v Speaker 1>same results.

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<v Speaker 2>You know. Aaron Rodgers is what the hot potato in

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<v Speaker 2>the NFL? Right? Why? What is the big problem or

1916
01:43:57.600 --> 01:43:59.760
<v Speaker 2>plus with him? What is the big deal? I mean

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01:44:00.279 --> 01:44:03.840
<v Speaker 2>that anybody's career goes to the Jets to die. It's

1918
01:44:03.880 --> 01:44:05.720
<v Speaker 2>like the Mets, as soon as they get them, that's

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01:44:05.720 --> 01:44:08.479
<v Speaker 2>the end of their All Star or you know, Pro

1920
01:44:08.560 --> 01:44:12.079
<v Speaker 2>Bowl power. So what's the deal is Aaron Rodgers like

1921
01:44:12.159 --> 01:44:14.399
<v Speaker 2>tanked with the Jets too, and now they figure they'll

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01:44:14.399 --> 01:44:16.359
<v Speaker 2>rehab them with the Rams. I mean, is that what

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<v Speaker 2>the idea is here?

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<v Speaker 1>All the Jets don't want them. He's been with them

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<v Speaker 1>for two seasons. He didn't even play the first season.

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<v Speaker 1>The second season was crap.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, you know what all I got to say about

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<v Speaker 2>Jets and Mets, and notice they rhyme is Bobby Bonia.

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<v Speaker 2>That is my whole statement about that. You get a

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<v Speaker 2>guy who you think is an all star one way

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<v Speaker 2>or another, and as soon as he's playing for the

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01:44:45.439 --> 01:44:49.039
<v Speaker 2>Jets or the Mets, it's all over, baby. And maybe

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01:44:49.079 --> 01:44:51.520
<v Speaker 2>Aaron Rodgers will have a career with the Rams. I mean,

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<v Speaker 2>do you think that's a bad thing or you don't care,

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<v Speaker 2>or do you think he's a bust? At this?

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<v Speaker 1>Matthew Stafford and Aaron Rodgers are the same. They're both

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01:45:03.960 --> 01:45:09.920
<v Speaker 1>old guy quarterbacks. So they're swapping just disrespectful to Stafford.

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01:45:09.680 --> 01:45:12.239
<v Speaker 2>So you think they're just swapping problem for problem. But

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01:45:12.279 --> 01:45:14.279
<v Speaker 2>they should really hang on to him with the Rams

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01:45:14.279 --> 01:45:15.840
<v Speaker 2>because he at least got him a ring. Is that

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<v Speaker 2>the idea.

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<v Speaker 1>I would for as long as Stafford wanted. He's probably

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01:45:23.640 --> 01:45:28.000
<v Speaker 1>only going to play one more season. I mean, but

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<v Speaker 1>now they've already kind of made it publicly known they

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01:45:31.119 --> 01:45:33.359
<v Speaker 1>don't want them no more, just like the Jets has

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01:45:33.399 --> 01:45:37.920
<v Speaker 1>done to Aaron Rodgers, and I think there's nothing's been

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01:45:37.960 --> 01:45:40.560
<v Speaker 1>said officially yet, but I'm pretty sure that's what they're

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01:45:40.640 --> 01:45:43.800
<v Speaker 1>up to. They want the Rams, want to trade the Jets.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, quarterbacks.

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<v Speaker 1>They want to do another switchy.

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<v Speaker 2>Hey, look fair enough, I guess. But you know, it's weird.

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01:45:51.079 --> 01:45:53.159
<v Speaker 2>I think there should be some loyalty in sports. But

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01:45:53.279 --> 01:45:56.800
<v Speaker 2>isn't the day of loyalty to teams like a past,

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01:45:57.279 --> 01:45:59.960
<v Speaker 2>you know, because didn't some basketball player recently just jump

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01:46:00.079 --> 01:46:02.279
<v Speaker 2>ship to some other team? They are like, people are going,

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01:46:02.800 --> 01:46:05.399
<v Speaker 2>holy crap, this guy went to Golden State or whatever.

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<v Speaker 2>And anyway, I don't know much about it, but I

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01:46:07.600 --> 01:46:09.760
<v Speaker 2>do see another caller and I'm gonna grab them on

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<v Speaker 2>the line. I think it might have been a caller

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<v Speaker 2>from earlier, but I'm just gonna leave you on the

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01:46:14.239 --> 01:46:18.520
<v Speaker 2>line with them and see what happens here. And I'm

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<v Speaker 2>pretty sure this is ed again, isn't it?

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<v Speaker 5>Oh?

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<v Speaker 11>It is?

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<v Speaker 19>Yeah, I didn't. I hung up because my landline phone

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01:46:27.520 --> 01:46:29.920
<v Speaker 19>cordless one. The battery dies really quick and it was

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01:46:29.960 --> 01:46:32.920
<v Speaker 19>starting to beep at me and it doesn't work right now,

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01:46:32.960 --> 01:46:34.479
<v Speaker 19>So I went to the flip phone.

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<v Speaker 2>Well that's cool, Hey, you got anything to say about

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<v Speaker 2>this Rams. You got anything to say about this Rams

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01:46:38.840 --> 01:46:41.640
<v Speaker 2>Jets thing that Jimmy James brought up? Totally different topic,

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<v Speaker 2>And to tell you the truth, I'm almost starting to

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01:46:43.600 --> 01:46:46.520
<v Speaker 2>feel like I should start talking sports on here, you know,

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01:46:46.640 --> 01:46:47.960
<v Speaker 2>when uncle's not around anyway.

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<v Speaker 19>Yeah, I got nothing on that.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm sorry. Okay, I'm sorry. I just thought maybe, yeah.

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<v Speaker 19>Go ahead, I got yeah. No, hey man, baseball season

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01:46:58.439 --> 01:47:00.439
<v Speaker 19>starts in less than a month. Now, that's all I

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01:47:00.479 --> 01:47:01.920
<v Speaker 19>care about.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, So who is who's the hot baseball players coming

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01:47:06.960 --> 01:47:10.119
<v Speaker 2>up this year? I mean, what about the great, you know,

1982
01:47:10.199 --> 01:47:12.840
<v Speaker 2>home run hitting pitcher. How's he doing out there in LA?

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01:47:13.000 --> 01:47:13.920
<v Speaker 2>Is he still doing good?

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<v Speaker 19>Yeah? Well, you know they haven't started yet, but they

1985
01:47:19.359 --> 01:47:22.840
<v Speaker 19>they're speculating he will start pitching by me, not the

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01:47:22.880 --> 01:47:25.840
<v Speaker 19>first month, but by May. They're hoping to have him

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<v Speaker 19>back from his Tommy John and in the rotation.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah. Well, with those kind of guys got you gotta

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01:47:31.840 --> 01:47:34.399
<v Speaker 2>let him settle in. I mean, look, even if he's

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01:47:34.439 --> 01:47:37.840
<v Speaker 2>not a successful pitcher anymore, though, imagine this. Maybe you

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01:47:37.920 --> 01:47:39.960
<v Speaker 2>got a d h that you can also throw out

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<v Speaker 2>of the bullpen once in a while, you know what

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01:47:41.640 --> 01:47:43.760
<v Speaker 2>I mean? Out of the.

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<v Speaker 19>Bullpen, or maybe he could play left field now and

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01:47:46.359 --> 01:47:48.760
<v Speaker 19>then they've even talked about that he used to play

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01:47:48.760 --> 01:47:51.560
<v Speaker 19>in the outfield, so he might be able to you know,

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01:47:51.720 --> 01:47:54.880
<v Speaker 19>sub out there sometimes. But I'm hoping he's still an

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01:47:54.920 --> 01:47:57.399
<v Speaker 19>ace pitcher, man, I want to. I love the idea

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<v Speaker 19>of that, you know, but listen, I love itches in.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I mean, I love the idea of Babe Ruth,

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01:48:03.399 --> 01:48:05.640
<v Speaker 2>you know, reading about him and saying to myself, why

2002
01:48:05.640 --> 01:48:07.640
<v Speaker 2>the hell didn't they still keep him as a pitcher?

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01:48:07.760 --> 01:48:10.279
<v Speaker 2>Oh right, because he wouldn't be able to bat right

2004
01:48:10.640 --> 01:48:12.840
<v Speaker 2>and he wouldn't be in the game every single day.

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01:48:13.319 --> 01:48:15.119
<v Speaker 2>I mean, this is what the problem was, why they

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01:48:15.119 --> 01:48:18.720
<v Speaker 2>turned him into what they turned him into, Babe Ruth? Right? Yeah. Yeah.

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01:48:18.960 --> 01:48:23.159
<v Speaker 2>But but now now my understanding is they're bringing the

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01:48:23.199 --> 01:48:25.079
<v Speaker 2>DH to both leagues like it's going to be a

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01:48:25.079 --> 01:48:27.960
<v Speaker 2>permanent thing in both leagues? Now, Is that true? Yeah?

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<v Speaker 19>It already is now, yeah, clears in the National League.

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<v Speaker 11>Now.

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<v Speaker 19>I think that's why the Dodgers went in Gottotonic, because well,

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01:48:34.720 --> 01:48:38.079
<v Speaker 19>we got the DH, now let's bend and get him.

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<v Speaker 2>You know. Well see, now what's weird about that to

2015
01:48:40.439 --> 01:48:43.039
<v Speaker 2>me is that I hadn't watched baseball for a few years,

2016
01:48:43.119 --> 01:48:45.479
<v Speaker 2>but but I do watch the playoffs all the time,

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01:48:45.520 --> 01:48:47.680
<v Speaker 2>so I never know about this DH rule. But I'm

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01:48:47.680 --> 01:48:51.199
<v Speaker 2>sad about the DH being everywhere. But anyway, Jimmy, James,

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01:48:51.199 --> 01:48:53.039
<v Speaker 2>you got anything to say about this because we're almost

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01:48:53.079 --> 01:48:54.079
<v Speaker 2>out of time for the night.

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<v Speaker 1>Nope, everyone have a good one piece.

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<v Speaker 2>All right, Jimmy. Look, I appreciate you calling in. I

2023
01:49:03.680 --> 01:49:08.279
<v Speaker 2>definitely appreciate the change up in the conversation. That was great. Uh,

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01:49:08.319 --> 01:49:10.479
<v Speaker 2>and love it when you call in. Anyway, we got

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01:49:10.520 --> 01:49:12.800
<v Speaker 2>to get more of your perspective on these things as

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01:49:12.840 --> 01:49:14.960
<v Speaker 2>they emerged, for sure, and I'm sure by next week

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01:49:15.000 --> 01:49:17.520
<v Speaker 2>we'll have more to talk about because I guarantee you

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01:49:17.520 --> 01:49:20.199
<v Speaker 2>there's gonna be some fallout from this Zelensky thing later.

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<v Speaker 2>But appreciate you, Jimmy. Can't wait to hear from you

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01:49:23.199 --> 01:49:26.680
<v Speaker 2>again soon. And oh oh, one quick note, Jimmy, guess

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01:49:26.720 --> 01:49:29.119
<v Speaker 2>what a book showed up at my house?

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01:49:31.800 --> 01:49:34.800
<v Speaker 1>Are you kidding me? The thing was mailed like three

2033
01:49:34.840 --> 01:49:35.399
<v Speaker 1>months ago.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm just telling you what happened. Brother. I don't you know,

2035
01:49:38.680 --> 01:49:40.880
<v Speaker 2>I got no reason to make this up. It just

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01:49:41.000 --> 01:49:45.199
<v Speaker 2>showed up and I don't even know why and really yeah,

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01:49:45.239 --> 01:49:48.479
<v Speaker 2>and the box was damaged a whole bit. So I

2038
01:49:48.520 --> 01:49:50.359
<v Speaker 2>don't know what the hell happened to this book.

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<v Speaker 1>But wait a man, wait man, wait man, I didn't

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01:49:53.560 --> 01:49:55.239
<v Speaker 1>send it in a box. I sent it in a

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01:49:55.359 --> 01:49:56.399
<v Speaker 1>white envelope.

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01:49:56.439 --> 01:49:59.319
<v Speaker 2>Well it was. It arrived to me in a box

2043
01:49:59.439 --> 01:50:03.479
<v Speaker 2>and a bat. Okay, it was busted open according to

2044
01:50:03.560 --> 01:50:06.159
<v Speaker 2>the note, and that's that. It had one of those

2045
01:50:06.199 --> 01:50:09.479
<v Speaker 2>red notes in it that said this was damaged as

2046
01:50:09.520 --> 01:50:13.319
<v Speaker 2>it was sent and boom, it showed up in a box.

2047
01:50:17.119 --> 01:50:20.239
<v Speaker 1>And all it is is just a book called The Builders, Right.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, that's it. It looks almost like a nineteen sixties

2049
01:50:23.520 --> 01:50:26.039
<v Speaker 2>kind of cartoony looking cover, like a lot of books

2050
01:50:26.039 --> 01:50:28.680
<v Speaker 2>did back then. There was a certain style to books

2051
01:50:28.720 --> 01:50:35.239
<v Speaker 2>in the sixties and seventies. You know what I'm talking about, right, Yeah,

2052
01:50:35.359 --> 01:50:38.520
<v Speaker 2>that book's finally showed up appears to be in one piece.

2053
01:50:38.560 --> 01:50:41.000
<v Speaker 2>But apparently the packaging did not make it here in

2054
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<v Speaker 2>one piece, because you're telling me it was in a bag.

2055
01:50:43.119 --> 01:50:44.920
<v Speaker 2>I got in a box with a bag around it

2056
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<v Speaker 2>and a note.

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<v Speaker 1>So I just mailed in a simple, big white envelope

2058
01:50:51.760 --> 01:50:55.920
<v Speaker 1>that they provided. Well, somebody highly unusual.

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<v Speaker 2>Well I'm just telling you somebody or a machine decided

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<v Speaker 2>to rip that thing open and destroy it and pretty

2061
01:51:02.039 --> 01:51:04.760
<v Speaker 2>much send me a box. Okay, I'm just telling you

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01:51:04.800 --> 01:51:07.439
<v Speaker 2>what happened. And you see how long it took. All right,

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01:51:08.720 --> 01:51:13.039
<v Speaker 2>So I don't know why I can't I know it.

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<v Speaker 1>I know it's not the problems that post office.

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01:51:17.279 --> 01:51:21.439
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, but only between you and see but only between

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<v Speaker 2>you and me.

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<v Speaker 16>Ed.

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<v Speaker 2>You have sent me books. I've gotten them in the

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<v Speaker 2>packaging you sent them in. I'm just saying from Washington,

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<v Speaker 2>I get the book. From Michigan, I get god knows

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<v Speaker 2>what if it bothers to show up. And I've also

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<v Speaker 2>sent things to Jimmy James and boxes that never arrived

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<v Speaker 2>that I have no explanation for.

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<v Speaker 19>Yeah, I think, uh, you know, it costs more. But

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<v Speaker 19>I do think that that the priority boxes have a

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<v Speaker 19>better chance. Not that they'll always make it, but I

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<v Speaker 19>do think they're more scrutinized, maybe more of a record

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<v Speaker 19>behind them.

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<v Speaker 2>No, if I've heard that, if I said there.

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<v Speaker 19>Are in the post office, you know that they're like

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<v Speaker 19>theft rings within the post office, whether it's true or not.

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<v Speaker 19>And you know they can tell if there's money, they

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<v Speaker 19>can tell, they whatever, and so, but I think that

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<v Speaker 19>the priority boxes are a little safer.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, they busted whatever, they busted one in Georgia just

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<v Speaker 2>this week, a theft ring, but it wasn't in my

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<v Speaker 2>post office. So I'm just saying it happens between me

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<v Speaker 2>and Jimmy James. Something weird happens anyway, guys, A lot

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<v Speaker 2>of weird things are happening out there, and it is

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<v Speaker 2>what it is. So here's what I'm gonna do. I'm

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<v Speaker 2>gonna cut the phone lines free and tell you that

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<v Speaker 2>the age of Transitions There we Go is coming up

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