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<v Speaker 1>It's time for coffee and company, Fueled by Thornton's on

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<v Speaker 1>Sports Talk seven ninety Holy crap, I don't know who

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<v Speaker 1>the hell we think when we.

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<v Speaker 2>Are get off our show, idiots, The kids are crying

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<v Speaker 2>or turn a live cry.

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<v Speaker 1>The countries are screwing it up.

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<v Speaker 2>Gold Play Inner Murals, Brother, gold Play Inner Murals.

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<v Speaker 1>They're supposed to be mature adults, but they're really not.

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<v Speaker 1>Who's the kid here?

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<v Speaker 3>Who's the kid here?

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<v Speaker 1>Are you kidding me? Now? Here's nick coffee?

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<v Speaker 4>All right, let's get it started.

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<v Speaker 5>Welcome in another beautiful day here in the wonderful city

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<v Speaker 5>of Louisville, Kentucky, as we come to you live from

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<v Speaker 5>downtown Louisville. Here at four Street live, our beautiful Fourth

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<v Speaker 5>Street Live Studios. John, where's everybody at? I'm not sure

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<v Speaker 5>I've ever seen the garage where we like, we're all

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<v Speaker 5>of our iHeart employ coworkers, our colleagues, where we park,

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<v Speaker 5>there's no like, there's nobody here.

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<v Speaker 6>Yeah, I don't know what it is.

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<v Speaker 4>Do you notice it?

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<v Speaker 1>Do?

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah?

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<v Speaker 6>I feel like this normally happens on Fridays, But I

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<v Speaker 6>don't really know what the case is too.

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<v Speaker 5>So we've we had we have. I think he's still here.

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<v Speaker 5>We've got a visitor here in in town. He is

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<v Speaker 5>he's I mean, he's the higher up, he's he's the

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<v Speaker 5>he's the brass, or at least part of the brass

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<v Speaker 5>here at iHeart so yesterday there was a lot of

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<v Speaker 5>people here. In fact, I got to meet him, good conversation.

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<v Speaker 5>But I don't know, maybe they're out doing some kind

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<v Speaker 5>of event, because it is unusual to see this place

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<v Speaker 5>this empty.

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<v Speaker 2>Now.

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<v Speaker 5>I hope I didn't just make a mistake here, because

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<v Speaker 5>you know, it could be that because we've got one

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<v Speaker 5>of the the big wigs in town that you know,

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<v Speaker 5>the bosses, those who do in fact oversee a lot

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<v Speaker 5>of us rather it be programming, sales, whatever, promote. Like,

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<v Speaker 5>maybe they're all out having like a big meeting meeting

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<v Speaker 5>the bosses, and everybody else realized that, so they just

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<v Speaker 5>got out of here. That's the case thing I just

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<v Speaker 5>told on them. I just I just tattled, which is

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<v Speaker 5>not good. But anyways, there's something weird about being here

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<v Speaker 5>when it doesn't feel like anybody else is here. I mean,

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<v Speaker 5>we're not empty. Obviously, You've got the one and only

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<v Speaker 5>Terry Miners down the hall. I'm not going to tell

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<v Speaker 5>you what station he's on. You'll have to find it

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<v Speaker 5>for yourself. Not that that would be hard to do,

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<v Speaker 5>but you know, I'm not inviting you to go elsewhere.

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<v Speaker 5>You need to stay here with us on Sports Talk

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<v Speaker 5>seven ninety. But outside of Terry and you know, his

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<v Speaker 5>team that helps him put on his show, obviously Ian

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<v Speaker 5>and our news team, Paul Miles, those guys, and then

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<v Speaker 5>it's us, And I think that's about it.

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<v Speaker 6>The one the weirdest thing about working here sometimes is

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<v Speaker 6>you never know what day of the week how many

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<v Speaker 6>people are going to be in this building, and they

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<v Speaker 6>can throw off the rhythm just because things can just

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<v Speaker 6>like yesterday and today can be night and day. You'll

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<v Speaker 6>have eight hundred people apparently like it seemed like yesterday

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<v Speaker 6>to where you have maybe six or seven today.

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<v Speaker 5>And what's weird is that we don't during the show

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<v Speaker 5>interact with anybody. No yet for some reason, like it

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<v Speaker 5>does have somewhat of an impact on like the vibe

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<v Speaker 5>around here, and you know, we make it work regardless.

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<v Speaker 5>But and it's not that I don't enjoy being in

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<v Speaker 5>an office where you know, there's a lot of people

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<v Speaker 5>and it's lively and you know, you're doing the office

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<v Speaker 5>thing right, small talk, you know, getting to know your coworkers, socializing,

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<v Speaker 5>that kind of stuff, while also getting work done and

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<v Speaker 5>being productive. But when we're here and it's kind of empty,

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<v Speaker 5>I kind of.

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<v Speaker 4>Like it that way.

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<v Speaker 5>There's no easy way to say that, because it sounds

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<v Speaker 5>like I want everybody to never come in, But that's

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<v Speaker 5>not what I mean.

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<v Speaker 6>I became full time here kind of in the midst

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<v Speaker 6>of all the COVID stuff. Still, I was furloughed when

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<v Speaker 6>I was part time that I came back full time,

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<v Speaker 6>and it was at the time where a lot of

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<v Speaker 6>people still weren't back in the office, who were still

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<v Speaker 6>in the old building, and I just got used to

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<v Speaker 6>nobody being around. And so that's really kind of all

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<v Speaker 6>I've ever known.

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<v Speaker 5>True, And that makes me sad because it used to

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<v Speaker 5>be a different world. I mean, and I'm sure most

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<v Speaker 5>jobs are like this now, especially those that have like

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<v Speaker 5>an office setting that kind of stuff. We used to

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<v Speaker 5>have at least I don't know, fifty people at our

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<v Speaker 5>building every day. Maybe that's a little bit of an exement.

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<v Speaker 5>At one point it was that, but over the years

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<v Speaker 5>it shifted a little bit. And then, of course with

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<v Speaker 5>the pandemic. It kind of just led to us abandoning

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<v Speaker 5>that office and we've got a new office now, and

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<v Speaker 5>you know, there's people that come into work, but it's

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<v Speaker 5>more of a hybrid situation for really everybody involved. So anyways,

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<v Speaker 5>it's beautiful. So for wherever my colleagues are, I hope

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<v Speaker 5>they're enjoying themselves. I'm sure they're working hard and enjoying

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<v Speaker 5>this beautiful, beautiful day that we have here in this

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<v Speaker 5>wonderful city of Louisville, Kentucky. It doesn't feel like it's

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<v Speaker 5>late October because that warm weather's here, but it's certainly

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<v Speaker 5>nice outside, and it looks as if the rain chances

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<v Speaker 5>for tomorrow, I mean they're still there. But I checked

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<v Speaker 5>the app that I have on my phone. That's the

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<v Speaker 5>only as that's as interested as I am and really

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<v Speaker 5>knowing what the forecast is going to be. I'm not

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<v Speaker 5>tuning in. I'm not looking at all kinds of different options.

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<v Speaker 5>I'm just gonna pull out my phone and look at

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<v Speaker 5>the app and it says now forty five percent, which

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<v Speaker 5>I think two days ago was like eighty, So it's improving.

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<v Speaker 4>Hopefully.

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<v Speaker 6>Nobody's trying to scare families into not Trigg or treating tomorrow.

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<v Speaker 5>Well, I'm glad you said that, because you know, the

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<v Speaker 5>internet's a wild place right now with this election coming

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<v Speaker 5>up in less than a week, and it kind of

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<v Speaker 5>blows my mind as far as what you see on

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<v Speaker 5>different social media platforms and really how and again I

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<v Speaker 5>don't follow politics closely. I'm not even sharing like a

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<v Speaker 5>political comment here at least I don't think I am.

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<v Speaker 5>I'm sure people can take it whatever where they want

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<v Speaker 5>and you know, react however they want, make whatever opinion

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<v Speaker 5>you wanted me out of this, but I can't think

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<v Speaker 5>of there ever being an election where we were this divided.

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<v Speaker 5>But also, like I think the levels of being biased

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<v Speaker 5>on both sides is alarming, but also nowhere it's insanely

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<v Speaker 5>higher than it's ever been. And what I mean is

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<v Speaker 5>that like even you know, the left and the right,

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<v Speaker 5>like I see both sides people that I know, people

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<v Speaker 5>who you know, have millions of followers that clearly are

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<v Speaker 5>you know, in that game, in that space, meaning they

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<v Speaker 5>cover politics like it's so one sided on their side

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<v Speaker 5>and it's just and I know that's always been there

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<v Speaker 5>for the most part, but like we've never been this

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<v Speaker 5>divided and Unfortunately, whoever wins, I don't think it's going

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<v Speaker 5>to bring.

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<v Speaker 4>Us all together. I think it's just going to lead

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<v Speaker 4>to you know, who knows what.

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<v Speaker 6>But something I'm more worried about the days after the

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<v Speaker 6>election than actual election day.

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<v Speaker 5>Yeah, oh yeah, I mean, I mean, I think a

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<v Speaker 5>lot of people are thinking, like, hey, cause again, what

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<v Speaker 5>do I know? But there are some and I'm kind

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<v Speaker 5>of in this group. I don't know how what percentage

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<v Speaker 5>of the population this group represents, but they're going to vote.

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<v Speaker 5>They have an opinion, but they realize that, like the

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<v Speaker 5>grand scheme of things, their vote really isn't gonna change it.

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<v Speaker 5>They're one person. So it's more about like, hey, I

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<v Speaker 5>know what I'm gonna do, but we'll sit back and

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<v Speaker 5>see what happens and man from there, once we know

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<v Speaker 5>who won, it's gonna be you know, because I mean, anyways,

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<v Speaker 5>I didn't want to go there today, But what brought

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<v Speaker 5>me there was you mentioning trying to scare people off

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<v Speaker 5>from Halloween and trick or treating tomorrow, which isn't anything political.

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<v Speaker 4>However, yesterday I just.

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<v Speaker 5>Put the kids to bed, I'm sitting on the recliner

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<v Speaker 5>and apparently one of the communities in Southern Indiana. I

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<v Speaker 5>don't know which one it is. I guess put out

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<v Speaker 5>some kind of a you know, the official Facebook page

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<v Speaker 5>for I don't know, one of the southern Indiana communities.

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<v Speaker 5>Maybe it's Clarksville, maybe it's New Albany, Jeffersonville. I really

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<v Speaker 5>don't know, and I probably, I probably should have looked

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<v Speaker 5>this up before I just started, you know, talking about it,

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<v Speaker 5>but I didn't plan to. But there were people like

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<v Speaker 5>they're telling people to move, you know, to move their

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<v Speaker 5>tricker treating time in that community. That's that that area

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<v Speaker 5>from Thursday to Friday, from like six to eight pm.

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<v Speaker 5>And you know, it was outrage. They're trying to control us. Sorry,

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<v Speaker 5>my family trick or treats on Halloween.

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<v Speaker 2>Damn it.

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<v Speaker 5>I mean, like that's where we are. Like somebody saw

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<v Speaker 5>that it's gonna rain, and you don't want kids to

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<v Speaker 5>to be out in the rain, and it would be

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<v Speaker 5>miserable for anybody to be trick or treating in the rain.

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<v Speaker 5>So somebody who has, you know, say so within this community,

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<v Speaker 5>this area, they decided, well, let's let's move it back

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<v Speaker 5>a day to encourage to let people know that we

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<v Speaker 5>are gonna you know, observe time when it's nicer outside

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<v Speaker 5>and you may not be able to hit as many houses,

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<v Speaker 5>but like this will give us you know, this is

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<v Speaker 5>encouraging people to put out candy when it's not wet outside.

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<v Speaker 5>And it led to people just thinking, well, uh, now

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<v Speaker 5>they're trying to control us again. Now they're trying to

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<v Speaker 5>change Halloween. I'll be damned if I'm gonna let them

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<v Speaker 5>have any can like no, no matter what happens, rather

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<v Speaker 5>it be news, you know, a big event. There's a

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<v Speaker 5>level of like thinking that somebody's trying to control you

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<v Speaker 5>that I find fascinating, Like I actually I think it's entertaining,

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<v Speaker 5>like not that that that, you know, because I don't

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<v Speaker 5>really think people are trying to control you in a

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<v Speaker 5>way that you know that others do, but like to

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<v Speaker 5>see the reaction from some and as soon as like

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<v Speaker 5>I know, as soon as I say, well, I'm not

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<v Speaker 5>really sure that they're worried about me. It's like the

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<v Speaker 5>thing with the vaccine, like the chip, you know, like

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<v Speaker 5>I would lean into that and like make fun of

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<v Speaker 5>it because yeah, yeah I got my chip, I got

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<v Speaker 5>my booster chip. Like just because people would think that

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<v Speaker 5>they're planning a chip inside of you, and I just

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<v Speaker 5>think that's funny that that's that's what people think. But

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<v Speaker 5>even if they were, I mean, anyway.

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<v Speaker 6>We all have a chip in our hands into our

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<v Speaker 6>cell phone. Yeah, like it's.

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<v Speaker 4>What's the different?

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<v Speaker 5>Well said, that's a good point. But anyways, we are

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<v Speaker 5>six days away, is that right? It's next Tuesday?

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<v Speaker 2>Isn't it?

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<v Speaker 1>Tuesday?

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<v Speaker 4>The election?

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<v Speaker 6>So Chris glad we have plenty of alternatives that night too, though,

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<v Speaker 5>Oh yeah, absolutely, You've got obviously, the the Champions Classic.

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<v Speaker 5>It's got to be one of the most anticipated elections ever, right,

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<v Speaker 5>It actually strets the day before election day, next next Monday. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 5>so you know, that's a nice distraction. But I will

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<v Speaker 5>election Day, election night, what happens after the fact. I'm

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<v Speaker 5>more interested in that than I've ever been. And it's

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<v Speaker 5>opinions on who I'm voting for than I've ever had,

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<v Speaker 5>but I'm not going to share them here because what

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<v Speaker 5>good would that do?

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<v Speaker 5>from the election. Maybe maybe we'll get back in it later.

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<v Speaker 5>I know John's really itching to share his thoughts on

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<v Speaker 6>Well, show on Tuesday is actually going to be debating.

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<v Speaker 5>Six pm next Tuesday, it'll be nothing but wall to

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<v Speaker 5>Trump and wet we only we don't want you talking

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<v Speaker 5>it's a good thing. We just want to hear how

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<v Speaker 5>much you hate the other side that because that's what

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<v Speaker 5>we want. That's what we make good radios. So you

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<v Speaker 5>know that's what we'll do. Looking forward to it next

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<v Speaker 5>next Tuesday. All right, it's coffee and company. That's us,

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<v Speaker 5>fueled by Thornton's.

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<v Speaker 4>You knew that.

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<v Speaker 5>tell you if you're in the Kentucky and area, there's

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<v Speaker 5>of the Refreshment Awards program, which you've done, there is

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<v Speaker 5>to talk about the matchup on Saturday night, Louisville and Clemson.

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<v Speaker 5>And this team's done it again, they have they've never

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<v Speaker 5>lost me. But it's been a wild ride. And again,

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<v Speaker 5>I still think the best word to use here when

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<v Speaker 5>describing Louisville football in twenty twenty four. From a fans' perspective,

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<v Speaker 5>it's frustrating because you know, there's a reason the computers,

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<v Speaker 5>but they like them a lot better than you know

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<v Speaker 5>the record does. And you are what your record indicates.

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<v Speaker 5>The computers don't matter. The computers can't win for you.

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<v Speaker 5>But this team is actually shown to be you know,

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<v Speaker 5>but I'll say it better than their record indicates, because

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<v Speaker 5>they've been in games with some good teams. Remember all

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<v Speaker 5>that nonsense everybody was yelling about before the season started, Well,

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<v Speaker 5>a little of it doesn't play anybody. Their schedules weak.

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<v Speaker 5>I mean, they'll probably walk into the playoff with that schedule,

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<v Speaker 5>all that loud mouth nonsense. Louill's schedule is stronger than

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<v Speaker 5>most people realize, at least as of right now.

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<v Speaker 4>That could change.

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<v Speaker 5>But like Louisville has three losses, and all of their

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<v Speaker 5>end up being ranked for you know, I mean easily

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<v Speaker 5>who they're playing this weekend, which is actually a sneaky

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<v Speaker 5>good acc game. So, you know, Louisville, I still have

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<v Speaker 5>always believed this team has the ability to be better

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<v Speaker 5>than they've been, but you're getting late in the year

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<v Speaker 5>to where you really don't know, you know, you really

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<v Speaker 5>don't know if they're ever going to turn it on.

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<v Speaker 5>And what I don't know is this desperation for me.

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<v Speaker 5>Am I desperate here to you know, just try to

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<v Speaker 5>find something to grasp onto as a positive and carry

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<v Speaker 5>it into the game Saturday. So I'm at least excited

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<v Speaker 5>about it because I'm excited, and it's not that I've

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<v Speaker 5>got a ton of confidence. It's more just about seeing

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<v Speaker 5>all right, gut check time. Man, these guys came back

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<v Speaker 5>from twenty nothing. Twenty to nothing was the score in

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<v Speaker 5>the first half. They came back and won dominated the

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<v Speaker 5>rest of the way. And it wasn't just the fact

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<v Speaker 5>that they were able to overcome that adversity. It's also

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<v Speaker 5>that they I mean, they started carrying themselves a little

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<v Speaker 5>bit different and the defense probably looked better than it

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<v Speaker 5>then on, they were dominant and I'm hoping that that

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<v Speaker 5>can carry over to Clemson. Obviously a big jump up

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<v Speaker 5>in competition from Boston College to Clemson. But again, for me,

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<v Speaker 5>it's never been about does Louisville have the ability do

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<v Speaker 5>they have good enough players? It's more so just been

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<v Speaker 5>about can they put it all together? And look, they

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<v Speaker 5>may put it all together and still come up short

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<v Speaker 5>because they are playing Clemson at their place. But I'm

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<v Speaker 5>really any game this year. I mean that because what

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<v Speaker 5>we sough at the end of Boston College like that

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<v Speaker 5>was something like that was. I mean again, you can claim, well, hey, Nick,

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<v Speaker 5>you're you're an idiot. That doesn't mean anything. Look who

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<v Speaker 5>they played, and maybe you're right, like maybe they'll get

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<v Speaker 5>humbled in a major way and get beat down at

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<v Speaker 5>Death Valley, like that's a real possibility. But it was

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<v Speaker 5>inspiring football. They weren't, you know, they looked sure of

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<v Speaker 5>themselves for the first time really since they played the

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<v Speaker 5>lousy teams earlier this year. So again, I'm sure it

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<v Speaker 5>want to be excited and pumped up for a big game.

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<v Speaker 5>It is a chance to knock off a really good

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<v Speaker 5>team at their play, something you've never done before winning

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<v Speaker 5>at Clemson. So we'll talk about the matchup coming up

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<v Speaker 5>catching up with him also some of the things we'll

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<v Speaker 5>get into today. If you're a Kentucky fan listening and

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<v Speaker 5>last night, maybe you feel a little differently about this

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<v Speaker 5>team compared to what you know, compared to what you

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<v Speaker 5>felt last time around. I mean, I mean when I

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<v Speaker 5>say last time around, obviously they had an exhibition game

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<v Speaker 5>from just the time line on Twitter. Some Kentucky fans

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<v Speaker 5>that I know, like you're seeing one or two plays

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<v Speaker 5>where Minnesota State gets an offensive rebound and scores on you,

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<v Speaker 5>or they're out rebounding you with like four minutes left

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<v Speaker 5>in the first half, and like it puts you in

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<v Speaker 5>panic mode because you're thinking, like, oh, what's gonna happen.

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<v Speaker 5>When we'd play Duke and I'm here to tell you

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<v Speaker 5>take my advice. And this is me being nice. This

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<v Speaker 5>don't get too high too low about anything that happens

421
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<v Speaker 5>in these games, because I did the same thing, like

422
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<v Speaker 5>I didn't bring it to the airwaves because it you know,

423
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<v Speaker 5>I quickly realized like there's no way to really know

424
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<v Speaker 5>if this means anything or not good or bad that's

425
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<v Speaker 5>going on in these exhibition games. But you know, I

426
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<v Speaker 5>kind of felt like at times whenever I would watch

427
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<v Speaker 5>Spalding get an offensive rebound or Spalding go on a

428
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<v Speaker 5>five zero run, and again, it doesn't mean it's it's

429
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<v Speaker 5>impossible to know if that really means anything at all.

430
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<v Speaker 5>But because you know that you have expectations for your

431
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<v Speaker 5>team and you know the opponent you're playing is not

432
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<v Speaker 5>good and clearly Minnesota State's a good D two team,

433
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<v Speaker 5>but like if a D two, if a D two

434
00:20:08.960 --> 00:20:11.400
<v Speaker 5>team can can be competitive with you in segments of

435
00:20:11.440 --> 00:20:13.759
<v Speaker 5>a game, you start to worry, like, geez, what's Cooper

436
00:20:13.799 --> 00:20:17.680
<v Speaker 5>Flagg gonna do? So you know, it was nice to

437
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<v Speaker 5>see him sweat a little bit last night. But we'll

438
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<v Speaker 5>find out where Kentucky is in six days because that

439
00:20:24.599 --> 00:20:26.759
<v Speaker 5>and again, they could get blown out and still be

440
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<v Speaker 5>good because Duke may just be that special. But I

441
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<v Speaker 5>know there's many of them watching last night that you know, realize, Hey,

442
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<v Speaker 5>this team could be good. There could be They're gonna

443
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<v Speaker 5>be fun to watch. I'm sure if you're a Kentucky

444
00:20:37.240 --> 00:20:39.359
<v Speaker 5>fan and they're gonna be good enough to probably make

445
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<v Speaker 5>the tournament, I would assume that'd be a real surprise

446
00:20:41.079 --> 00:20:43.680
<v Speaker 5>if they If they aren't, at least from my perspective. However,

447
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<v Speaker 5>this is not a team that has a ceiling that

448
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<v Speaker 5>you can rely on like you did for a over

449
00:20:49.920 --> 00:20:50.839
<v Speaker 5>a decade with Cal.

450
00:20:50.920 --> 00:20:51.599
<v Speaker 4>Cal could have.

451
00:20:51.519 --> 00:20:55.480
<v Speaker 5>Teams that were not very good, underwhelming, had some bad losses,

452
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<v Speaker 5>but you always knew in any moment they could turn

453
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<v Speaker 5>it on because they had dudes, they're gonna play in

454
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<v Speaker 5>the NBA. I don't know if there's an NBA guy

455
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<v Speaker 5>on this Kentucky team. I mean, I'm sure there's somebody

456
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<v Speaker 5>or maybe two guys, maybe three that'll end up playing

457
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<v Speaker 5>in the NBA, but not to the point where you're

458
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<v Speaker 5>gonna be drafted, where Reed Shepherd was, where Rob Dillingham was,

459
00:21:12.880 --> 00:21:15.200
<v Speaker 5>because that's just not how Pope's gonna build the roster.

460
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<v Speaker 5>And to be fair, ninety eight percent of college basketball

461
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<v Speaker 5>coaches are not gonna build the rosters the way John

462
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<v Speaker 5>Caliperry does. It's just a big difference. So anyways, we

463
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<v Speaker 5>can talk a little bit about that. Also some other things.

464
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<v Speaker 5>We need to get into that ACC tiebreaker because there's

465
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<v Speaker 5>a real chance that you could see three is it

466
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<v Speaker 5>three unbeaten teams? Yeah, because Clemson and Florida State don't

467
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<v Speaker 5>play each other, SMU Clemson and SMU Clemson in Miami,

468
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<v Speaker 5>and I say Florida State, they could all be unbeaten

469
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<v Speaker 5>at the end of the year. In fact, that may

470
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<v Speaker 5>be the expected outcome. And if that or Pitt, because

471
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<v Speaker 5>Pitt's unbeaten too, Pitt and SMU play each other. So

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<v Speaker 5>let's say, you know what it's going to come down

473
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<v Speaker 5>to is how good your opponents did, which I've got

474
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<v Speaker 5>one big takeaway. If that plays out to where you

475
00:22:09.640 --> 00:22:12.079
<v Speaker 5>decide who gets to go to the ACC Championship game

476
00:22:12.920 --> 00:22:17.440
<v Speaker 5>based off of the opponents you played in league play,

477
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<v Speaker 5>how well they were, how good they were, that's a

478
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<v Speaker 5>flawed way to do it.

479
00:22:21.599 --> 00:22:21.960
<v Speaker 4>I mean, that.

480
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<v Speaker 5>Sucks if you get left out on that type of technicality.

481
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<v Speaker 5>So we're loaded the rest of the way. Hopefully you

482
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<v Speaker 5>guys will stick with us. We're gonna take you up

483
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<v Speaker 5>till six o'clock again. On the other side, we'll talk

484
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<v Speaker 5>to David Halo ESPN to preview this Louisville Clemson matchup

485
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<v Speaker 5>on Saturday.

486
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<v Speaker 4>Stick with us, it's coffee and company.

487
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<v Speaker 5>Feel about Thorton's right here on Sports Talk seven ninety.

488
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<v Speaker 5>I've gone from being annoyed by the correction police to

489
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<v Speaker 5>really needing the correction police. And what I mean by

490
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<v Speaker 5>the correction police. You know it used to be phone

491
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<v Speaker 5>lines lit. Because I mentioned so and so had eighteen

492
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<v Speaker 5>points last night. What's this dumb ass talking about? He

493
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<v Speaker 5>had seventeen points? You know, that's the correction police when

494
00:23:01.759 --> 00:23:05.240
<v Speaker 5>they're annoying. But then sometimes they correct me and I'm like, wow,

495
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<v Speaker 5>I'm glad you told me. I've been on the impression

496
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<v Speaker 5>that next Tuesday was the Champions Classic, the big tip

497
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<v Speaker 5>off of him for college hoops, and it's not. It's

498
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<v Speaker 5>actually a week from Tuesday, which makes sense. I mean,

499
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<v Speaker 5>that's a TV event. It usually doesn't fill up those

500
00:23:18.119 --> 00:23:20.960
<v Speaker 5>NBA arenas where it takes place, so it makes total

501
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<v Speaker 5>sense to move it on a non election I'd see

502
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<v Speaker 5>you get a lot more viewers.

503
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<v Speaker 4>But thank you those that corrected.

504
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<v Speaker 5>Us on that. You know, I think I might have

505
00:23:29.400 --> 00:23:35.279
<v Speaker 5>just turned on ESPN whenever when everybody else is watching

506
00:23:35.319 --> 00:23:37.359
<v Speaker 5>election coverage and realize where's the basketball game?

507
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<v Speaker 6>So I thought the same thing too, because it's always

508
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<v Speaker 6>corresponds with the playoff rankings that we talk about.

509
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<v Speaker 5>Yeah, and that's typically what they've done is it's been

510
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<v Speaker 5>the same thing. You get your first look at the

511
00:23:45.759 --> 00:23:48.920
<v Speaker 5>playoff rankings and then they play, you know, some big

512
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<v Speaker 5>time matchups in college hoops at the earliest point of

513
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<v Speaker 5>the season. So anyways, it's not next week, it's the

514
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<v Speaker 5>week after that. So I assume many of you knew that,

515
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<v Speaker 5>and you know I'm the dumb ass here, But if

516
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<v Speaker 5>you were a dumb ass because of me, now we

517
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<v Speaker 5>are informed and we now know the schedule. So sorry

518
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<v Speaker 5>about that. All right, it's Coffee and Company, that's us fuel.

519
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<v Speaker 5>Beuth Thornton's right here on Sports Talk seven to ninety.

520
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<v Speaker 5>Let's bring him in to join us. Mister David Hale

521
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<v Speaker 5>of ESPN, we're talking some college football, Louisville and Clemson,

522
00:24:15.599 --> 00:24:18.359
<v Speaker 5>a big matchup. Well, I'll ask you this is this

523
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<v Speaker 5>the second biggest matchup of the weekend in the ACC.

524
00:24:21.200 --> 00:24:24.319
<v Speaker 5>I would imagine SMU and Pitt. I mean not big

525
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<v Speaker 5>brands by any means, but two teams that are off

526
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<v Speaker 5>to good starts. Are we second place here between the

527
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<v Speaker 5>Cards and the Tigers?

528
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<v Speaker 2>First off, let me go back to your correction here,

529
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<v Speaker 2>because I just want to point out, isn't it fascinating

530
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<v Speaker 2>that somebody in college sports said, hey, maybe we shouldn't

531
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<v Speaker 2>go head to head with the election, but yet the.

532
00:24:45.000 --> 00:24:48.880
<v Speaker 3>Rankings reveal they didn't care about that. They said, I

533
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<v Speaker 3>what election, Let's let's go ahead and put that out there.

534
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<v Speaker 5>Oh college football. College football moves the needle man. They

535
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<v Speaker 5>just I mean, in fact, I'm surprised they didn't just

536
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<v Speaker 5>move the election back knowing that they're going to give

537
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<v Speaker 5>us the college football playoff rankings.

538
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<v Speaker 2>That's a great point. That's a great point. There's gonna

539
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<v Speaker 2>be so much outrage one Tuesday night. It just it's

540
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<v Speaker 2>hard to believe it. Uh.

541
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<v Speaker 3>To the answer your ladder question, Uh yeah, I mean I.

542
00:25:10.400 --> 00:25:13.480
<v Speaker 2>Sm Pitt is probably just because of the way that

543
00:25:13.480 --> 00:25:16.559
<v Speaker 2>that things have shaken out the bigger game, I guess

544
00:25:17.200 --> 00:25:19.079
<v Speaker 2>uh and in some respects that it might be a

545
00:25:19.119 --> 00:25:22.799
<v Speaker 2>little bit of an elimination game from ACC Championship.

546
00:25:22.839 --> 00:25:26.200
<v Speaker 3>Given sort of where we're at in the standings, I would.

547
00:25:26.039 --> 00:25:29.960
<v Speaker 2>Argue the two more talented teams are gonna be the

548
00:25:29.960 --> 00:25:32.480
<v Speaker 2>ones playing at Clemson at Death Valley. And I know

549
00:25:32.680 --> 00:25:36.359
<v Speaker 2>Louisville's got three losses, but that's still to me a

550
00:25:36.440 --> 00:25:38.720
<v Speaker 2>really good football team. I mean, those three losses are

551
00:25:38.720 --> 00:25:43.359
<v Speaker 2>all to very good teams by a touchdown or less.

552
00:25:43.400 --> 00:25:47.839
<v Speaker 2>You know, Louisville has has traditionally played Clemson very close

553
00:25:48.000 --> 00:25:49.759
<v Speaker 2>in Death Valley. They haven't won a lot of them,

554
00:25:49.759 --> 00:25:52.599
<v Speaker 2>have won any of them, but they've been good games.

555
00:25:53.440 --> 00:25:56.799
<v Speaker 2>I still have some real questions about this Clemson team,

556
00:25:56.839 --> 00:25:58.839
<v Speaker 2>not because I don't think that they're markedly better than

557
00:25:58.839 --> 00:25:59.680
<v Speaker 2>they were last year.

558
00:25:59.720 --> 00:26:01.400
<v Speaker 3>They they pretty clearly are.

559
00:26:01.440 --> 00:26:04.799
<v Speaker 2>But you know, their schedule as opposed to Louisville has

560
00:26:04.839 --> 00:26:08.480
<v Speaker 2>been a breeze. I think if you flip flop their schedules,

561
00:26:08.519 --> 00:26:11.960
<v Speaker 2>I'm not sure how much different things would be for

562
00:26:12.039 --> 00:26:14.720
<v Speaker 2>Clemson than they are for Louisville right now, and vice versa.

563
00:26:14.839 --> 00:26:17.880
<v Speaker 2>So you know to me, I it's maybe the more

564
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<v Speaker 2>intriguing matchup between two genuinely good teams.

565
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<v Speaker 5>I think, yeah, you might have actually just answered my

566
00:26:23.920 --> 00:26:26.519
<v Speaker 5>next question, which was is Louisville the best team Clemson's

567
00:26:26.519 --> 00:26:29.720
<v Speaker 5>played since Georgia? I mean, I think it certainly looks

568
00:26:29.720 --> 00:26:31.440
<v Speaker 5>like that, and that speaks more so too. I think

569
00:26:31.519 --> 00:26:34.519
<v Speaker 5>just their schedule as of now more so than than Louisville.

570
00:26:34.559 --> 00:26:36.599
<v Speaker 5>But again, louis has been a weird team this year. Man, Like,

571
00:26:36.920 --> 00:26:39.559
<v Speaker 5>I still think they're pretty damn good, but their record

572
00:26:39.599 --> 00:26:42.160
<v Speaker 5>doesn't really indicate that. And your record really is how

573
00:26:42.200 --> 00:26:44.119
<v Speaker 5>people are going to evaluate if you're good, if you're bad.

574
00:26:45.039 --> 00:26:49.079
<v Speaker 5>But you know, with Clemson, what's made them better than

575
00:26:49.079 --> 00:26:50.000
<v Speaker 5>they were a year ago?

576
00:26:50.279 --> 00:26:50.480
<v Speaker 2>Is it?

577
00:26:51.119 --> 00:26:53.599
<v Speaker 5>You know, a variety of things? Is it Kate Klubnick

578
00:26:53.640 --> 00:26:56.039
<v Speaker 5>taking a big step forward? Because I was actually asking

579
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<v Speaker 5>myself this yesterday looking at what they've done this year.

580
00:27:00.039 --> 00:27:02.240
<v Speaker 5>However many games in they are compared to last year.

581
00:27:02.599 --> 00:27:04.680
<v Speaker 5>I mean, I think they're better too, but I'm starting

582
00:27:04.680 --> 00:27:06.519
<v Speaker 5>to think, like, Okay, how much better are they? Is

583
00:27:06.559 --> 00:27:08.519
<v Speaker 5>this more of just a product than taking advantage of

584
00:27:08.519 --> 00:27:10.440
<v Speaker 5>that slate in the schedule, or are they really, like

585
00:27:10.440 --> 00:27:12.519
<v Speaker 5>I mean, I guess to wrap it up, I mean,

586
00:27:12.640 --> 00:27:15.079
<v Speaker 5>isn't this a big chance for Clemson to maybe show

587
00:27:15.079 --> 00:27:16.599
<v Speaker 5>that they are a lot better than a year ago.

588
00:27:16.640 --> 00:27:18.279
<v Speaker 5>It sounds like I'm giving Love a little little too

589
00:27:18.359 --> 00:27:21.200
<v Speaker 5>much credit. They're playing a team with three losses that's unranked,

590
00:27:21.200 --> 00:27:22.599
<v Speaker 5>But I kind of feel like this is a this

591
00:27:22.640 --> 00:27:24.920
<v Speaker 5>is a measuring stick game for for both teams at

592
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<v Speaker 5>this point.

593
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<v Speaker 3>No, I think you're entirely right.

594
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<v Speaker 2>And you know, talking to Dabo Sweeney this week, I mean,

595
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<v Speaker 2>he said, hands down, this is the best challenge they've

596
00:27:34.240 --> 00:27:39.039
<v Speaker 2>had since Georgia, and particularly with the first playoff rankings

597
00:27:39.079 --> 00:27:42.359
<v Speaker 2>coming a couple of days after this game, I think

598
00:27:42.400 --> 00:27:47.000
<v Speaker 2>it is a really important moment for Clemson to make

599
00:27:47.039 --> 00:27:49.799
<v Speaker 2>a statement against a better team.

600
00:27:49.839 --> 00:27:51.960
<v Speaker 3>And look, at the end of the day, I think.

601
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<v Speaker 2>Everybody, you are who you are, you are who your

602
00:27:53.680 --> 00:27:54.519
<v Speaker 2>record says you are.

603
00:27:54.599 --> 00:27:56.519
<v Speaker 3>That that is I believe that wholeheartedly.

604
00:27:57.000 --> 00:27:59.920
<v Speaker 2>But the committee and probably a lot of us now

605
00:28:00.400 --> 00:28:02.839
<v Speaker 2>do spend a lot more time on the advanced metrics

606
00:28:02.920 --> 00:28:07.559
<v Speaker 2>and dig into some of the nitty gritty details beyond

607
00:28:07.599 --> 00:28:10.720
<v Speaker 2>just your win loss record. And Clemson has not played.

608
00:28:11.039 --> 00:28:13.319
<v Speaker 2>Take this metric for what you will, but at ESPN's

609
00:28:13.400 --> 00:28:16.640
<v Speaker 2>FBI ranking. Clemson has not played since Georgia a team

610
00:28:16.680 --> 00:28:19.960
<v Speaker 2>that is ranked better than seventieth. Louisville, for better or worse,

611
00:28:20.039 --> 00:28:22.519
<v Speaker 2>is still ranked nineteenth in that metric right now. So

612
00:28:23.000 --> 00:28:26.319
<v Speaker 2>this is a real you know, if you're diving into

613
00:28:26.359 --> 00:28:29.400
<v Speaker 2>the dirty details, this is a really big game for

614
00:28:29.519 --> 00:28:32.240
<v Speaker 2>Clemson before these first rankings to say that no, this

615
00:28:32.359 --> 00:28:35.200
<v Speaker 2>isn't just a product of the schedule, that we're good,

616
00:28:35.240 --> 00:28:39.240
<v Speaker 2>We're actually good, and to answer why you know again,

617
00:28:39.279 --> 00:28:41.720
<v Speaker 2>I think there is probably a lot of different reasons.

618
00:28:42.359 --> 00:28:45.200
<v Speaker 2>Matt Luke and a new look offensive line has been

619
00:28:45.599 --> 00:28:46.519
<v Speaker 2>a big part of that.

620
00:28:46.599 --> 00:28:49.240
<v Speaker 3>The offensive line is playing much much better football.

621
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<v Speaker 2>But you also have to ask, like, are they better

622
00:28:52.039 --> 00:28:54.279
<v Speaker 2>because they haven't played a great pass rush yet. To me,

623
00:28:54.440 --> 00:28:57.039
<v Speaker 2>the key for Louisville is making kid Club to come

624
00:28:57.200 --> 00:28:58.359
<v Speaker 2>uncomfortable in the pocket.

625
00:28:59.079 --> 00:29:01.680
<v Speaker 3>The receivers are better Clemson this year, without question.

626
00:29:02.400 --> 00:29:05.519
<v Speaker 2>They've got two freshmen that they've used a little more

627
00:29:05.559 --> 00:29:07.680
<v Speaker 2>sparingly than maybe some of us have thought, but they've

628
00:29:07.799 --> 00:29:10.759
<v Speaker 2>used them wisely. Antonio Williams is healthy.

629
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<v Speaker 3>It was not last year. There's just weapons for Kate

630
00:29:12.680 --> 00:29:15.759
<v Speaker 3>Klebnick to throw to, and he has gotten better too.

631
00:29:15.799 --> 00:29:18.440
<v Speaker 2>I mean, I'm kind of working on a story now.

632
00:29:18.440 --> 00:29:21.039
<v Speaker 2>I just talked to Kate today for a while about

633
00:29:21.119 --> 00:29:23.839
<v Speaker 2>just how rare it is for quarterbacks at high profile

634
00:29:23.880 --> 00:29:26.680
<v Speaker 2>schools to be given an opportunity to develop like that

635
00:29:26.799 --> 00:29:29.759
<v Speaker 2>first year is a starter as a whirlwind. And he

636
00:29:29.839 --> 00:29:31.720
<v Speaker 2>had his moments last year, but he had some really

637
00:29:31.720 --> 00:29:34.200
<v Speaker 2>bad ones too that he needed time to learn from.

638
00:29:34.279 --> 00:29:36.480
<v Speaker 3>And you kind of you look at Tennessee and what

639
00:29:37.160 --> 00:29:38.000
<v Speaker 3>Nico I am?

640
00:29:38.799 --> 00:29:41.519
<v Speaker 2>I am male Lea, I'll get it. Never mind Nico

641
00:29:41.680 --> 00:29:45.440
<v Speaker 2>at Sennessee, Jackson at Jackson, Arnold at Oklahoma, Like, these

642
00:29:45.440 --> 00:29:48.519
<v Speaker 2>guys are not without talent, but they're going through growing pains.

643
00:29:48.519 --> 00:29:51.240
<v Speaker 3>And we really, in this era of the transfer portal

644
00:29:51.640 --> 00:29:54.279
<v Speaker 3>do not allow quarterbacks to go through growing pains very

645
00:29:54.279 --> 00:29:55.079
<v Speaker 3>often anymore.

646
00:29:55.319 --> 00:29:57.079
<v Speaker 2>And Kate is probably one of the few that I

647
00:29:57.079 --> 00:29:59.079
<v Speaker 2>think has come out the other side a better, better

648
00:29:59.160 --> 00:30:00.599
<v Speaker 2>quarterback and better place for it.

649
00:30:01.200 --> 00:30:03.160
<v Speaker 5>David hal VESPN is our guest joining us here talking

650
00:30:03.160 --> 00:30:05.920
<v Speaker 5>about the subcoming matchup between Clemson and Louisville, obviously a

651
00:30:05.920 --> 00:30:09.599
<v Speaker 5>big game for both programs. Davila Sweeney talked very highly

652
00:30:09.640 --> 00:30:11.759
<v Speaker 5>of Louisville earlier this week in his press conference. You

653
00:30:11.759 --> 00:30:14.680
<v Speaker 5>mentioned you chatted with him as well of and I'm

654
00:30:14.680 --> 00:30:16.640
<v Speaker 5>sure there's many things he's really going to be focusing

655
00:30:16.640 --> 00:30:18.759
<v Speaker 5>on as far as scheme and trying to take some

656
00:30:18.799 --> 00:30:20.680
<v Speaker 5>things away from Louisville, things that he's going to try

657
00:30:20.680 --> 00:30:23.519
<v Speaker 5>to exploit. What would you say could be the real

658
00:30:23.720 --> 00:30:27.039
<v Speaker 5>danger for Clemson if anything? I mean, what about Louisville?

659
00:30:27.079 --> 00:30:28.480
<v Speaker 5>Do you think could it like if we if it

660
00:30:28.559 --> 00:30:31.880
<v Speaker 5>ends up being Louisville's first ever victory and death Valley again,

661
00:30:32.279 --> 00:30:34.880
<v Speaker 5>there'll be a multiple factors that led them there. But

662
00:30:34.880 --> 00:30:37.279
<v Speaker 5>what would you think would be the big takeaway as

663
00:30:37.319 --> 00:30:38.880
<v Speaker 5>can you kind of to predict the future here? Something

664
00:30:38.880 --> 00:30:40.920
<v Speaker 5>that could really potentially give them some problems?

665
00:30:42.359 --> 00:30:44.160
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I think there's two things. One is just Jeff

666
00:30:44.160 --> 00:30:47.000
<v Speaker 2>Brahm as a play caller and an offensive mind, Like

667
00:30:47.480 --> 00:30:50.160
<v Speaker 2>they will they do so much in terms of movements

668
00:30:50.200 --> 00:30:53.119
<v Speaker 2>and pre snap and then getting Tyler Schuck out of

669
00:30:53.200 --> 00:30:55.559
<v Speaker 2>the pocket and footing him and then moving in the

670
00:30:55.599 --> 00:30:57.440
<v Speaker 2>other running the play in the other in direction, Like

671
00:30:57.599 --> 00:30:59.599
<v Speaker 2>there's so much eye candy with what they want to

672
00:30:59.640 --> 00:31:03.440
<v Speaker 2>do off defensively, and Clemson's defense has been good this year,

673
00:31:03.480 --> 00:31:06.079
<v Speaker 2>but as several other guys said, this week, they've been

674
00:31:06.119 --> 00:31:08.440
<v Speaker 2>a little boom or bust. They've given up I think

675
00:31:08.480 --> 00:31:10.960
<v Speaker 2>twenty more explosives this year at this time than they

676
00:31:11.000 --> 00:31:13.680
<v Speaker 2>had last year at this time. And so that's just

677
00:31:13.680 --> 00:31:15.880
<v Speaker 2>because the backups have played more than they did last year.

678
00:31:15.920 --> 00:31:19.920
<v Speaker 2>But their their eye discipline has not always been great

679
00:31:19.920 --> 00:31:22.519
<v Speaker 2>this year and Louisville is a team that will absolutely

680
00:31:22.880 --> 00:31:25.319
<v Speaker 2>take advantage of that. And then on the flip side,

681
00:31:26.000 --> 00:31:28.680
<v Speaker 2>you look at at at Kate Klubnick. Again, he's had

682
00:31:28.720 --> 00:31:30.839
<v Speaker 2>a lot of success, but he's had a very comfortable

683
00:31:30.839 --> 00:31:34.039
<v Speaker 2>pocket more often than not. And the and the I

684
00:31:34.039 --> 00:31:37.799
<v Speaker 2>think the knock on Cade particularly last year was that

685
00:31:38.240 --> 00:31:40.319
<v Speaker 2>when you sped up the game and you sped up

686
00:31:40.359 --> 00:31:44.039
<v Speaker 2>his decision making, he was prone to make mistakes. Well,

687
00:31:44.359 --> 00:31:46.599
<v Speaker 2>I think Louisville is the team that is willing to go,

688
00:31:46.799 --> 00:31:50.799
<v Speaker 2>you know, cover zero and put their their corners on

689
00:31:50.839 --> 00:31:53.000
<v Speaker 2>an island and really try to get after the quarterback,

690
00:31:53.000 --> 00:31:55.880
<v Speaker 2>probably as much as anybody they've played since Georgia. And

691
00:31:55.920 --> 00:31:57.759
<v Speaker 2>so I think a lot of the pressure is going

692
00:31:57.839 --> 00:32:00.319
<v Speaker 2>to be on that Louisville defensive line to make stuff

693
00:32:00.319 --> 00:32:03.200
<v Speaker 2>happened when they're they're not blitzing. But I do think

694
00:32:03.240 --> 00:32:06.279
<v Speaker 2>that that Louisville could afford to be aggressive and see

695
00:32:06.319 --> 00:32:08.599
<v Speaker 2>what will happen. Like if you can make kid club

696
00:32:08.640 --> 00:32:11.400
<v Speaker 2>Nick uncomfortable and push him into a mistake, I think

697
00:32:11.400 --> 00:32:14.039
<v Speaker 2>that's how you beat them. So to me, it's it's

698
00:32:15.079 --> 00:32:17.000
<v Speaker 2>you know, a little bit of the misdirection and eye

699
00:32:17.000 --> 00:32:19.880
<v Speaker 2>candy on offense, and without question, I think the defensive

700
00:32:19.920 --> 00:32:21.440
<v Speaker 2>line has to play their best game of the year.

701
00:32:22.480 --> 00:32:27.119
<v Speaker 5>Do you think Louisville is not capitalizing on a really

702
00:32:27.160 --> 00:32:29.400
<v Speaker 5>good quarterback they only have for one year. I'm not

703
00:32:29.440 --> 00:32:32.240
<v Speaker 5>hearing anybody say that Tyler Schuck isn't good, but you know,

704
00:32:32.279 --> 00:32:35.000
<v Speaker 5>Louisville not being a real contender at this point in

705
00:32:35.240 --> 00:32:37.440
<v Speaker 5>the ACC race I think has kind of led to him.

706
00:32:37.519 --> 00:32:39.279
<v Speaker 5>And it actually I feel like I was about to

707
00:32:39.279 --> 00:32:40.960
<v Speaker 5>tell a fib and say that like he's flying under

708
00:32:40.960 --> 00:32:42.480
<v Speaker 5>the radar. But it's not like people are saying he's

709
00:32:42.480 --> 00:32:45.400
<v Speaker 5>not any good. But you know, around here, I feel

710
00:32:45.400 --> 00:32:47.000
<v Speaker 5>like he's the best. I mean, I think a lot

711
00:32:47.000 --> 00:32:49.119
<v Speaker 5>of fans agree he's the best quarterback louis has had

712
00:32:49.119 --> 00:32:52.799
<v Speaker 5>since Lamar Jackson, and you know that that's probably saying

713
00:32:52.799 --> 00:32:55.160
<v Speaker 5>more about who they've had since then. But I think

714
00:32:55.240 --> 00:32:57.200
<v Speaker 5>fans around here feel like they've got a really good

715
00:32:57.279 --> 00:32:59.400
<v Speaker 5>offense with some really good weapons, and to have three

716
00:32:59.440 --> 00:33:01.319
<v Speaker 5>losses at the point, again, they are they're all the

717
00:33:01.359 --> 00:33:03.640
<v Speaker 5>good they're all the good teams. It's just, you know,

718
00:33:04.000 --> 00:33:06.160
<v Speaker 5>if Louisville doesn't have a special season. And I guess

719
00:33:06.279 --> 00:33:08.319
<v Speaker 5>how you define special really is in the eye of

720
00:33:08.359 --> 00:33:10.480
<v Speaker 5>the beholder, but I don't know. That's what's been so

721
00:33:10.559 --> 00:33:12.680
<v Speaker 5>frustrating from the Louisville side of things is that they've

722
00:33:12.680 --> 00:33:14.480
<v Speaker 5>made some real critical mistakes, in fact, a lot of

723
00:33:14.480 --> 00:33:18.119
<v Speaker 5>critical mistakes at terrible times in these games. And you know,

724
00:33:18.240 --> 00:33:19.839
<v Speaker 5>that's that's part of your identity at this point, you

725
00:33:19.880 --> 00:33:21.240
<v Speaker 5>played in a football to where you got to look

726
00:33:21.240 --> 00:33:23.359
<v Speaker 5>in the mirror. But again, this team should be better

727
00:33:23.359 --> 00:33:23.839
<v Speaker 5>than they are.

728
00:33:25.079 --> 00:33:28.559
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, it's been frustrating because there are I mean, even

729
00:33:28.559 --> 00:33:30.519
<v Speaker 2>in the losses against you know, Notre Dame is a

730
00:33:30.519 --> 00:33:33.599
<v Speaker 2>great example of like, there were so many opportunities there

731
00:33:33.640 --> 00:33:37.200
<v Speaker 2>that that were not taken advantage of. And to me,

732
00:33:37.359 --> 00:33:39.519
<v Speaker 2>this is a really good football team that has at

733
00:33:39.519 --> 00:33:42.839
<v Speaker 2>this point not played four quarters of complimentary football at

734
00:33:42.880 --> 00:33:47.200
<v Speaker 2>any real point. You know, the loss to Miami, you know,

735
00:33:47.359 --> 00:33:49.839
<v Speaker 2>I thought Miami was probably the better team, but Louisville

736
00:33:49.880 --> 00:33:52.119
<v Speaker 2>hung with a really good football team and a really

737
00:33:52.119 --> 00:33:55.480
<v Speaker 2>good offense by playing some great offense too, Tyler Shuck

738
00:33:55.519 --> 00:34:00.079
<v Speaker 2>has been terrific to your point, I, you know, and

739
00:34:00.079 --> 00:34:01.720
<v Speaker 2>and I think you have to look no further than

740
00:34:01.960 --> 00:34:04.720
<v Speaker 2>another team in the ACC in Florida State to realize, like,

741
00:34:05.920 --> 00:34:08.440
<v Speaker 2>you don't get great transfer quarterbacks all the time, and

742
00:34:08.480 --> 00:34:10.039
<v Speaker 2>even when you think you went out and got a

743
00:34:10.079 --> 00:34:13.159
<v Speaker 2>decent one, it doesn't always work. So like this has

744
00:34:13.199 --> 00:34:16.800
<v Speaker 2>been a home run for Louisville in terms of the quarterback,

745
00:34:17.079 --> 00:34:19.599
<v Speaker 2>and then you're pairing him with a freshman running back

746
00:34:19.639 --> 00:34:22.000
<v Speaker 2>who is probably as good as almost anybody in the

747
00:34:22.000 --> 00:34:27.039
<v Speaker 2>country right now, and you've lost those opportunities. And it's funny,

748
00:34:27.079 --> 00:34:29.119
<v Speaker 2>you know. I've talked to a couple of coaches like,

749
00:34:29.199 --> 00:34:30.719
<v Speaker 2>just you know, how good are some of these teams

750
00:34:30.760 --> 00:34:33.519
<v Speaker 2>that are playing well in the ACC right now. SMU

751
00:34:33.639 --> 00:34:37.039
<v Speaker 2>is to me a really good sort of counterpoint to Louisville,

752
00:34:37.119 --> 00:34:41.039
<v Speaker 2>and that there's good offensive weapons. I would argue Louisville's

753
00:34:41.039 --> 00:34:45.639
<v Speaker 2>had better quarterback play, but the breaks have largely gone

754
00:34:45.960 --> 00:34:48.840
<v Speaker 2>SMU's way. They've gotten takeaways when they've needed them, they've

755
00:34:48.880 --> 00:34:51.159
<v Speaker 2>made the big play when they needed to, they've converted

756
00:34:51.400 --> 00:34:53.239
<v Speaker 2>the third or fourth down that they needed to to

757
00:34:53.280 --> 00:34:56.000
<v Speaker 2>win a game, and Louisville has it. And so the

758
00:34:56.039 --> 00:35:00.360
<v Speaker 2>difference between Louisville and SMU right now is a full

759
00:35:00.400 --> 00:35:03.880
<v Speaker 2>of very very small plays over the course of a season,

760
00:35:04.360 --> 00:35:07.599
<v Speaker 2>or you'd be talking about the reverse of the standings

761
00:35:07.639 --> 00:35:09.840
<v Speaker 2>that they're in right now. So to me, I think

762
00:35:09.840 --> 00:35:11.840
<v Speaker 2>they are a very good team, but they are a

763
00:35:11.920 --> 00:35:13.760
<v Speaker 2>very good team who has not come up big when

764
00:35:13.760 --> 00:35:14.719
<v Speaker 2>they need to do the most.

765
00:35:15.119 --> 00:35:17.800
<v Speaker 5>Is it fair to say that maybe SMU is Louisville

766
00:35:17.800 --> 00:35:19.400
<v Speaker 5>from a year ago. I think you kind of just

767
00:35:19.480 --> 00:35:20.960
<v Speaker 5>kind of talked me through that. I feel like that's

768
00:35:21.000 --> 00:35:22.840
<v Speaker 5>kind of the because Louisville obviously had a lot of

769
00:35:22.840 --> 00:35:25.239
<v Speaker 5>breaks go their way, and clearly there's some luck involved.

770
00:35:25.280 --> 00:35:27.079
<v Speaker 5>But you know, I think you can also develop a

771
00:35:27.159 --> 00:35:29.039
<v Speaker 5>skill as a team how to win close games make

772
00:35:29.039 --> 00:35:31.679
<v Speaker 5>big plays late at the end, and SMU certainly doing that.

773
00:35:31.719 --> 00:35:35.039
<v Speaker 5>But SMU, I mean, they could end up being undefeated

774
00:35:35.039 --> 00:35:36.480
<v Speaker 5>in league play, and I don't know if you'd really

775
00:35:36.519 --> 00:35:38.320
<v Speaker 5>consider it that big of a shot considering what they've

776
00:35:38.360 --> 00:35:40.400
<v Speaker 5>shown at this point and considering the rest of their schedule.

777
00:35:40.480 --> 00:35:44.639
<v Speaker 2>Right Yeah, and a little bit of done the same

778
00:35:44.679 --> 00:35:47.400
<v Speaker 2>way too. I mean, I read lastly did a tremendous job,

779
00:35:47.800 --> 00:35:51.519
<v Speaker 2>not really in building his team through the portal, but

780
00:35:51.760 --> 00:35:54.440
<v Speaker 2>in buffering the team through the portal this year. So

781
00:35:54.480 --> 00:35:57.880
<v Speaker 2>that is an SMU team that, you know, the bones

782
00:35:57.920 --> 00:35:59.840
<v Speaker 2>of it were there probably before this year, but he

783
00:36:00.320 --> 00:36:04.440
<v Speaker 2>added some very nice pieces to compliment what was already

784
00:36:04.480 --> 00:36:07.440
<v Speaker 2>there to prep that team for the road that they

785
00:36:07.440 --> 00:36:09.519
<v Speaker 2>had this year, which was going to be much tougher

786
00:36:09.519 --> 00:36:12.519
<v Speaker 2>than anything they had in the AAC last year. So yeah,

787
00:36:12.519 --> 00:36:13.880
<v Speaker 2>I mean I see a lot of a lot of

788
00:36:13.880 --> 00:36:17.039
<v Speaker 2>sort of similarities between what Jeff Brohm did to get

789
00:36:17.079 --> 00:36:19.599
<v Speaker 2>Louisville into a position to be good last year and

790
00:36:19.639 --> 00:36:22.719
<v Speaker 2>then take advantage of those opportunities. It's been a similar

791
00:36:22.719 --> 00:36:23.599
<v Speaker 2>story for SMU.

792
00:36:24.360 --> 00:36:26.960
<v Speaker 5>So I think this is a year where the ACC,

793
00:36:27.400 --> 00:36:31.199
<v Speaker 5>David has shown, you know, in non conference play nothing substantial.

794
00:36:31.199 --> 00:36:34.239
<v Speaker 5>Obviously Clemson's big loss to Georgia stands out, but you know,

795
00:36:34.320 --> 00:36:37.360
<v Speaker 5>I saw that, you know, your resume comparison between Penn

796
00:36:37.360 --> 00:36:40.480
<v Speaker 5>State and pitt and you know, I don't know, I

797
00:36:40.519 --> 00:36:42.800
<v Speaker 5>just feel like the ACC is never going to get

798
00:36:42.840 --> 00:36:45.199
<v Speaker 5>the benefit of the doubt in the way that the

799
00:36:45.239 --> 00:36:47.159
<v Speaker 5>SEC does and I should probably just accept that. And

800
00:36:47.199 --> 00:36:48.880
<v Speaker 5>to be fair, I'm not even really sure that the

801
00:36:48.880 --> 00:36:51.360
<v Speaker 5>Big ten gets it the same way the SEC does.

802
00:36:51.400 --> 00:36:53.559
<v Speaker 5>But like right now, I think you can look around

803
00:36:53.679 --> 00:36:56.400
<v Speaker 5>and if you're just basing it off of results from

804
00:36:56.400 --> 00:36:59.559
<v Speaker 5>this year, I think it's safe to say the ACC

805
00:37:00.280 --> 00:37:01.559
<v Speaker 5>has improved as a league.

806
00:37:01.559 --> 00:37:02.320
<v Speaker 4>It's a pretty good league.

807
00:37:02.360 --> 00:37:03.639
<v Speaker 5>Not to say that it's the best, but I just

808
00:37:03.639 --> 00:37:07.559
<v Speaker 5>feel like perception of it is still nowhere near where

809
00:37:07.599 --> 00:37:09.159
<v Speaker 5>you'd want it to be. As somebody who you know

810
00:37:09.400 --> 00:37:10.920
<v Speaker 5>wants the ACC to do well.

811
00:37:11.840 --> 00:37:13.840
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, no, I think you're one hundred percent right. And

812
00:37:13.880 --> 00:37:17.119
<v Speaker 2>part of this is the exact same dynamic that the

813
00:37:17.159 --> 00:37:20.280
<v Speaker 2>ACC has always faced, that the SEC gets the benefit

814
00:37:20.280 --> 00:37:23.039
<v Speaker 2>of the doubt. You know, if Mississippi State or this

815
00:37:23.360 --> 00:37:26.239
<v Speaker 2>very good example this year is Vanderbilt has a good season,

816
00:37:26.840 --> 00:37:29.519
<v Speaker 2>it's like, oh, man, look at how deep the SEC is.

817
00:37:29.559 --> 00:37:31.559
<v Speaker 2>Look at that those teams that sort of have sprung

818
00:37:31.639 --> 00:37:34.000
<v Speaker 2>up from the bottom of the SEC when Pitt or

819
00:37:34.079 --> 00:37:37.840
<v Speaker 2>Smme was good, must be the ACC is terrible. And

820
00:37:38.800 --> 00:37:42.000
<v Speaker 2>I agree, I think on the whole look, I genuinely

821
00:37:42.039 --> 00:37:45.119
<v Speaker 2>would probably put the SEC a class above everybody else

822
00:37:45.119 --> 00:37:46.239
<v Speaker 2>at this point.

823
00:37:45.599 --> 00:37:48.239
<v Speaker 5>I would too, But my whole argument is that the

824
00:37:48.599 --> 00:37:50.440
<v Speaker 5>gap is never as big as they make it out

825
00:37:50.480 --> 00:37:50.639
<v Speaker 5>to be.

826
00:37:51.280 --> 00:37:55.320
<v Speaker 2>Absolutely absolutely not. You're one hundred percent right. I try

827
00:37:55.360 --> 00:37:57.320
<v Speaker 2>to tell people this, and I think it is sort

828
00:37:57.360 --> 00:37:59.480
<v Speaker 2>of the dirtiest secret of college football is that, like

829
00:37:59.519 --> 00:38:03.559
<v Speaker 2>in any there are probably two to three, maybe four

830
00:38:03.599 --> 00:38:06.400
<v Speaker 2>teams that are genuinely like, I can win a national

831
00:38:06.480 --> 00:38:11.199
<v Speaker 2>championship level great, then maybe like four to eight more

832
00:38:11.280 --> 00:38:14.559
<v Speaker 2>that are like, if things go right in the right moments,

833
00:38:14.559 --> 00:38:17.000
<v Speaker 2>we can win a national championship level great. And then

834
00:38:17.039 --> 00:38:20.960
<v Speaker 2>from like number twelve to like number thirty five, there's

835
00:38:21.000 --> 00:38:23.840
<v Speaker 2>really not that much of a difference. And so we're

836
00:38:23.880 --> 00:38:26.320
<v Speaker 2>talking about do you have one of those top ten

837
00:38:26.320 --> 00:38:28.920
<v Speaker 2>to twelve teams? And then after that, how many are

838
00:38:28.960 --> 00:38:30.880
<v Speaker 2>you kind of in the mix of that like pretty

839
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<v Speaker 2>good but not great. To me, they profile very similarly

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<v Speaker 2>to the Big ten, You know, I don't. I wouldn't

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<v Speaker 2>have any issue with saying that they're on a similar

842
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<v Speaker 2>comparison point, like, is Ohio State more talented than anybody

843
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<v Speaker 2>in the ACC That maybe the case, but you know,

844
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<v Speaker 2>I'd put Miami up against Ohio State and wouldn't feel

845
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<v Speaker 2>like Miami's about to get blown out by this, and

846
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<v Speaker 2>again a lot of the head to head records would

847
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<v Speaker 2>showcase that too, So you know, I'm with you. I

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<v Speaker 2>think it is a function of a lot of preconceptions

849
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<v Speaker 2>and kind of going back to what we talked about earlier,

850
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<v Speaker 2>that people like to dive into the analytics and the

851
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<v Speaker 2>you know, Bill Connolly stats, which are great, but they're

852
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<v Speaker 2>also a big sort of what we think should happen

853
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<v Speaker 2>is the truth whether it happens or not, Like we

854
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<v Speaker 2>have really, I think, as a group of fans and

855
00:39:22.280 --> 00:39:26.239
<v Speaker 2>evaluators gotten way too far away from like who actually

856
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<v Speaker 2>won the.

857
00:39:26.679 --> 00:39:30.639
<v Speaker 5>Real real results. Yeah, it's all about perception. It's all

858
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<v Speaker 5>about Yeah. I mean you literally just laid out sort

859
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<v Speaker 5>of what's been a growing frustration for me is just

860
00:39:35.559 --> 00:39:37.960
<v Speaker 5>a college football fan in general, is that we don't

861
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<v Speaker 5>analytics are great.

862
00:39:39.559 --> 00:39:42.440
<v Speaker 4>I enjoy them, They're interesting to me. I think they're valuable.

863
00:39:42.800 --> 00:39:45.360
<v Speaker 5>But we have certainly at least you know, a portion

864
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<v Speaker 5>of those that cover not just college football college basketball.

865
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<v Speaker 5>Throw that in there too, like we don't really factor

866
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<v Speaker 5>in who actually won the games as much like you

867
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<v Speaker 5>could look at a team that's six and two and

868
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<v Speaker 5>go ahead.

869
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<v Speaker 2>You mentioned that the Pitt and Penn State comparison that

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<v Speaker 2>I put out today. So one of the things that

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<v Speaker 2>I didn't add in there, which would certainly help Penn

872
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<v Speaker 2>State's cause, is Penn State has the best win on

873
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<v Speaker 2>there against I think it was the number sixteen FBI team,

874
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<v Speaker 2>And so you think, well, beating the number sixteen team

875
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<v Speaker 2>an FBI or ST plus whatever you're using, that's pretty good.

876
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<v Speaker 2>You know who that team is. Though, USC, like, I

877
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<v Speaker 2>don't know why USC is ranked that highly in these

878
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<v Speaker 2>advanced metrics because I've watched them play and they're not

879
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<v Speaker 2>very good, exactly, Like I look, I've watched Syracuse play

880
00:40:26.840 --> 00:40:29.639
<v Speaker 2>and I've watched USC play, and USC might be a

881
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<v Speaker 2>little bit better. But to me, I do not see

882
00:40:31.559 --> 00:40:34.239
<v Speaker 2>a massive distinction between those two. But the rankings are

883
00:40:34.239 --> 00:40:35.840
<v Speaker 2>going to put them as a massive distinction, And so

884
00:40:35.840 --> 00:40:38.639
<v Speaker 2>it looks way better for Penn State that it does

885
00:40:38.679 --> 00:40:41.239
<v Speaker 2>for pitt to be to beat Syracuse the way that

886
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<v Speaker 2>they did. And and and to me, like I just

887
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<v Speaker 2>I have such a hard time with the fact that,

888
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<v Speaker 2>like the whole point is to win the games, and

889
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<v Speaker 2>if we're constantly like reverse engineering what the actual final

890
00:40:53.880 --> 00:40:56.039
<v Speaker 2>score was, to say, well, no, no, no, no, this team

891
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<v Speaker 2>is still better because the math says that, like you know,

892
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<v Speaker 2>I don't.

893
00:41:00.800 --> 00:41:02.119
<v Speaker 3>I don't like I went.

894
00:41:02.320 --> 00:41:03.960
<v Speaker 2>I went to grade school and was picked on in

895
00:41:04.000 --> 00:41:06.159
<v Speaker 2>grade school because I liked math and was bad at sports.

896
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<v Speaker 2>Why are we listening to.

897
00:41:07.119 --> 00:41:08.159
<v Speaker 4>People like me now?

898
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<v Speaker 2>Not the math?

899
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<v Speaker 5>It worked out, it worked out the wrong way for you,

900
00:41:12.920 --> 00:41:15.559
<v Speaker 5>if that's the case. But David, we appreciate you making

901
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<v Speaker 5>time for us, my man. Always a great conversation. Enjoy

902
00:41:18.159 --> 00:41:20.199
<v Speaker 5>another great week into college football. We'll talk soon, brother,

903
00:41:21.159 --> 00:41:23.679
<v Speaker 5>all right, good duck, take care. That's David HALVESPN. Really

904
00:41:23.719 --> 00:41:26.079
<v Speaker 5>good stuff there. Really appreciated making time for us.

905
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<v Speaker 4>We got to run.

906
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<v Speaker 5>We'll have a really quick segment on the other end

907
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<v Speaker 5>here to to wrap at three o'clock our right here

908
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<v Speaker 5>on Sports Talk seven ninety. I mean, when I say it,

909
00:41:35.039 --> 00:41:37.519
<v Speaker 5>I am. I'm as excited for this game on Saturday

910
00:41:37.840 --> 00:41:41.519
<v Speaker 5>than I have been all year, because you know, I'm

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<v Speaker 5>not gonna be I mean, I could be let down

912
00:41:43.199 --> 00:41:46.360
<v Speaker 5>if they get blown out, obviously, but we've already been

913
00:41:46.440 --> 00:41:48.079
<v Speaker 5>let down kind of enough this year to where I'm

914
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<v Speaker 5>just anxious and eager to see if they're if they're

915
00:41:51.519 --> 00:41:53.800
<v Speaker 5>gonna be ready to play, and they could put four

916
00:41:53.920 --> 00:41:56.079
<v Speaker 5>they could put four quarters together and come out come

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<v Speaker 5>up short.

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<v Speaker 4>Still, I mean, I'm well aware of that, but I

919
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<v Speaker 4>would take that.

920
00:42:00.920 --> 00:42:03.480
<v Speaker 5>I mean, again, losing four games, but you know by

921
00:42:03.599 --> 00:42:07.360
<v Speaker 5>early November is not ideal. But again, seeing this team

922
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<v Speaker 5>put a full game together, you know, even if they

923
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<v Speaker 5>end up not having a great record, which they're not

924
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<v Speaker 5>going to probably, it's still something I'm just wanting to see.

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<v Speaker 4>All right.

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<v Speaker 5>Jefferson Animal Hospital, you guys know all about them, at

927
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<v Speaker 5>least you should if you listen, if you listen closely.

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<v Speaker 5>I've been talking about them for months now, and I'll

929
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<v Speaker 5>continue to talk about them because they're great. That's who

930
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<v Speaker 5>you need to turn to it and that's who you

931
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<v Speaker 5>need to trust when it comes to keeping your pets safe.

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<v Speaker 5>Jefferson Animal Hospital. You can visit them on outer Loop.

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<v Speaker 4>Stop right in. They're open twenty four.

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<v Speaker 5>Hours a day. They'd be happy to see you. In fact,

935
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<v Speaker 5>they would be you'd make their day if you stopped

936
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<v Speaker 5>in there and said, hey, you know, just wanted to

937
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<v Speaker 5>get some information. I've got a dog or a cat

938
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<v Speaker 5>or whatever whatever pets you have, and say hey, I'd

939
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<v Speaker 5>like to schedule something to bring them in, get them

940
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<v Speaker 5>looked at. Maybe see if they need some shots, that

941
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<v Speaker 5>kind of stuff. So again, they've been in business for

942
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<v Speaker 5>forty four years and they're open every day at all times.

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<v Speaker 5>And I would not be shocked if there are people

944
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<v Speaker 5>who who've had an emergency with their pet at a

945
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<v Speaker 5>certain time of the night or maybe on a certain

946
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<v Speaker 5>day a holiday, and you just assume, well, what am

947
00:43:08.280 --> 00:43:11.039
<v Speaker 5>I gonna do? It's Christmas, it's Thanksgiving, it's what happened. Well,

948
00:43:11.039 --> 00:43:12.920
<v Speaker 5>it doesn't matter. They're gonna be open because they know

949
00:43:13.000 --> 00:43:16.719
<v Speaker 5>emergencies happen. So you don't stick around for forty four

950
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<v Speaker 5>years unless you're taking care of your customers and taking

951
00:43:20.320 --> 00:43:22.880
<v Speaker 5>care of their pets. And you also don't stick around

952
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<v Speaker 5>that long without having a great reputation, and they have

953
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<v Speaker 5>exactly that. So Jefferson Animal Hospital. You can get more

954
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<v Speaker 5>information at Jefferson Vets dot com or give them a call.

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<v Speaker 5>Five two nine hundred pets. All right, Sorry for the

956
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<v Speaker 5>short segment. It's okay though. We'll finish strong here. Two

957
00:43:34.639 --> 00:43:36.719
<v Speaker 5>hours left and a lot more to get into, so

958
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<v Speaker 5>stick around. We'll have some fun. I mean I'm gonna

959
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<v Speaker 5>have fun. Hopefully you guys will have fun too. Right

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<v Speaker 5>here on Sports Talk seven to ninety
