Speaker 1: It's time for coffee and company, Fueled by Thornton's on
Speaker 1: Sports Talk seven ninety Holy crap, I don't know who
Speaker 1: the hell we think when we.
Speaker 2: Are get off our show, idiots, The kids are crying
Speaker 2: or turn a live cry.
Speaker 1: The countries are screwing it up.
Speaker 2: Gold Play Inner Murals, Brother, gold Play Inner Murals.
Speaker 1: They're supposed to be mature adults, but they're really not.
Speaker 1: Who's the kid here?
Speaker 3: Who's the kid here?
Speaker 1: Are you kidding me? Now? Here's nick coffee?
Speaker 4: All right, let's get it started.
Speaker 5: Welcome in another beautiful day here in the wonderful city
Speaker 5: of Louisville, Kentucky, as we come to you live from
Speaker 5: downtown Louisville. Here at four Street live, our beautiful Fourth
Speaker 5: Street Live Studios. John, where's everybody at? I'm not sure
Speaker 5: I've ever seen the garage where we like, we're all
Speaker 5: of our iHeart employ coworkers, our colleagues, where we park,
Speaker 5: there's no like, there's nobody here.
Speaker 6: Yeah, I don't know what it is.
Speaker 4: Do you notice it?
Speaker 1: Do?
Speaker 4: Yeah?
Speaker 6: I feel like this normally happens on Fridays, But I
Speaker 6: don't really know what the case is too.
Speaker 5: So we've we had we have. I think he's still here.
Speaker 5: We've got a visitor here in in town. He is
Speaker 5: he's I mean, he's the higher up, he's he's the
Speaker 5: he's the brass, or at least part of the brass
Speaker 5: here at iHeart so yesterday there was a lot of
Speaker 5: people here. In fact, I got to meet him, good conversation.
Speaker 5: But I don't know, maybe they're out doing some kind
Speaker 5: of event, because it is unusual to see this place
Speaker 5: this empty.
Speaker 2: Now.
Speaker 5: I hope I didn't just make a mistake here, because
Speaker 5: you know, it could be that because we've got one
Speaker 5: of the the big wigs in town that you know,
Speaker 5: the bosses, those who do in fact oversee a lot
Speaker 5: of us rather it be programming, sales, whatever, promote. Like,
Speaker 5: maybe they're all out having like a big meeting meeting
Speaker 5: the bosses, and everybody else realized that, so they just
Speaker 5: got out of here. That's the case thing I just
Speaker 5: told on them. I just I just tattled, which is
Speaker 5: not good. But anyways, there's something weird about being here
Speaker 5: when it doesn't feel like anybody else is here. I mean,
Speaker 5: we're not empty. Obviously, You've got the one and only
Speaker 5: Terry Miners down the hall. I'm not going to tell
Speaker 5: you what station he's on. You'll have to find it
Speaker 5: for yourself. Not that that would be hard to do,
Speaker 5: but you know, I'm not inviting you to go elsewhere.
Speaker 5: You need to stay here with us on Sports Talk
Speaker 5: seven ninety. But outside of Terry and you know, his
Speaker 5: team that helps him put on his show, obviously Ian
Speaker 5: and our news team, Paul Miles, those guys, and then
Speaker 5: it's us, And I think that's about it.
Speaker 6: The one the weirdest thing about working here sometimes is
Speaker 6: you never know what day of the week how many
Speaker 6: people are going to be in this building, and they
Speaker 6: can throw off the rhythm just because things can just
Speaker 6: like yesterday and today can be night and day. You'll
Speaker 6: have eight hundred people apparently like it seemed like yesterday
Speaker 6: to where you have maybe six or seven today.
Speaker 5: And what's weird is that we don't during the show
Speaker 5: interact with anybody. No yet for some reason, like it
Speaker 5: does have somewhat of an impact on like the vibe
Speaker 5: around here, and you know, we make it work regardless.
Speaker 5: But and it's not that I don't enjoy being in
Speaker 5: an office where you know, there's a lot of people
Speaker 5: and it's lively and you know, you're doing the office
Speaker 5: thing right, small talk, you know, getting to know your coworkers, socializing,
Speaker 5: that kind of stuff, while also getting work done and
Speaker 5: being productive. But when we're here and it's kind of empty,
Speaker 5: I kind of.
Speaker 4: Like it that way.
Speaker 5: There's no easy way to say that, because it sounds
Speaker 5: like I want everybody to never come in, But that's
Speaker 5: not what I mean.
Speaker 6: I became full time here kind of in the midst
Speaker 6: of all the COVID stuff. Still, I was furloughed when
Speaker 6: I was part time that I came back full time,
Speaker 6: and it was at the time where a lot of
Speaker 6: people still weren't back in the office, who were still
Speaker 6: in the old building, and I just got used to
Speaker 6: nobody being around. And so that's really kind of all
Speaker 6: I've ever known.
Speaker 5: True, And that makes me sad because it used to
Speaker 5: be a different world. I mean, and I'm sure most
Speaker 5: jobs are like this now, especially those that have like
Speaker 5: an office setting that kind of stuff. We used to
Speaker 5: have at least I don't know, fifty people at our
Speaker 5: building every day. Maybe that's a little bit of an exement.
Speaker 5: At one point it was that, but over the years
Speaker 5: it shifted a little bit. And then, of course with
Speaker 5: the pandemic. It kind of just led to us abandoning
Speaker 5: that office and we've got a new office now, and
Speaker 5: you know, there's people that come into work, but it's
Speaker 5: more of a hybrid situation for really everybody involved. So anyways,
Speaker 5: it's beautiful. So for wherever my colleagues are, I hope
Speaker 5: they're enjoying themselves. I'm sure they're working hard and enjoying
Speaker 5: this beautiful, beautiful day that we have here in this
Speaker 5: wonderful city of Louisville, Kentucky. It doesn't feel like it's
Speaker 5: late October because that warm weather's here, but it's certainly
Speaker 5: nice outside, and it looks as if the rain chances
Speaker 5: for tomorrow, I mean they're still there. But I checked
Speaker 5: the app that I have on my phone. That's the
Speaker 5: only as that's as interested as I am and really
Speaker 5: knowing what the forecast is going to be. I'm not
Speaker 5: tuning in. I'm not looking at all kinds of different options.
Speaker 5: I'm just gonna pull out my phone and look at
Speaker 5: the app and it says now forty five percent, which
Speaker 5: I think two days ago was like eighty, So it's improving.
Speaker 4: Hopefully.
Speaker 6: Nobody's trying to scare families into not Trigg or treating tomorrow.
Speaker 5: Well, I'm glad you said that, because you know, the
Speaker 5: internet's a wild place right now with this election coming
Speaker 5: up in less than a week, and it kind of
Speaker 5: blows my mind as far as what you see on
Speaker 5: different social media platforms and really how and again I
Speaker 5: don't follow politics closely. I'm not even sharing like a
Speaker 5: political comment here at least I don't think I am.
Speaker 5: I'm sure people can take it whatever where they want
Speaker 5: and you know, react however they want, make whatever opinion
Speaker 5: you wanted me out of this, but I can't think
Speaker 5: of there ever being an election where we were this divided.
Speaker 5: But also, like I think the levels of being biased
Speaker 5: on both sides is alarming, but also nowhere it's insanely
Speaker 5: higher than it's ever been. And what I mean is
Speaker 5: that like even you know, the left and the right,
Speaker 5: like I see both sides people that I know, people
Speaker 5: who you know, have millions of followers that clearly are
Speaker 5: you know, in that game, in that space, meaning they
Speaker 5: cover politics like it's so one sided on their side
Speaker 5: and it's just and I know that's always been there
Speaker 5: for the most part, but like we've never been this
Speaker 5: divided and Unfortunately, whoever wins, I don't think it's going
Speaker 5: to bring.
Speaker 4: Us all together. I think it's just going to lead
Speaker 4: to you know, who knows what.
Speaker 6: But something I'm more worried about the days after the
Speaker 6: election than actual election day.
Speaker 5: Yeah, oh yeah, I mean, I mean, I think a
Speaker 5: lot of people are thinking, like, hey, cause again, what
Speaker 5: do I know? But there are some and I'm kind
Speaker 5: of in this group. I don't know how what percentage
Speaker 5: of the population this group represents, but they're going to vote.
Speaker 5: They have an opinion, but they realize that, like the
Speaker 5: grand scheme of things, their vote really isn't gonna change it.
Speaker 5: They're one person. So it's more about like, hey, I
Speaker 5: know what I'm gonna do, but we'll sit back and
Speaker 5: see what happens and man from there, once we know
Speaker 5: who won, it's gonna be you know, because I mean, anyways,
Speaker 5: I didn't want to go there today, But what brought
Speaker 5: me there was you mentioning trying to scare people off
Speaker 5: from Halloween and trick or treating tomorrow, which isn't anything political.
Speaker 4: However, yesterday I just.
Speaker 5: Put the kids to bed, I'm sitting on the recliner
Speaker 5: and apparently one of the communities in Southern Indiana. I
Speaker 5: don't know which one it is. I guess put out
Speaker 5: some kind of a you know, the official Facebook page
Speaker 5: for I don't know, one of the southern Indiana communities.
Speaker 5: Maybe it's Clarksville, maybe it's New Albany, Jeffersonville. I really
Speaker 5: don't know, and I probably, I probably should have looked
Speaker 5: this up before I just started, you know, talking about it,
Speaker 5: but I didn't plan to. But there were people like
Speaker 5: they're telling people to move, you know, to move their
Speaker 5: tricker treating time in that community. That's that that area
Speaker 5: from Thursday to Friday, from like six to eight pm.
Speaker 5: And you know, it was outrage. They're trying to control us. Sorry,
Speaker 5: my family trick or treats on Halloween.
Speaker 2: Damn it.
Speaker 5: I mean, like that's where we are. Like somebody saw
Speaker 5: that it's gonna rain, and you don't want kids to
Speaker 5: to be out in the rain, and it would be
Speaker 5: miserable for anybody to be trick or treating in the rain.
Speaker 5: So somebody who has, you know, say so within this community,
Speaker 5: this area, they decided, well, let's let's move it back
Speaker 5: a day to encourage to let people know that we
Speaker 5: are gonna you know, observe time when it's nicer outside
Speaker 5: and you may not be able to hit as many houses,
Speaker 5: but like this will give us you know, this is
Speaker 5: encouraging people to put out candy when it's not wet outside.
Speaker 5: And it led to people just thinking, well, uh, now
Speaker 5: they're trying to control us again. Now they're trying to
Speaker 5: change Halloween. I'll be damned if I'm gonna let them
Speaker 5: have any can like no, no matter what happens, rather
Speaker 5: it be news, you know, a big event. There's a
Speaker 5: level of like thinking that somebody's trying to control you
Speaker 5: that I find fascinating, Like I actually I think it's entertaining,
Speaker 5: like not that that that, you know, because I don't
Speaker 5: really think people are trying to control you in a
Speaker 5: way that you know that others do, but like to
Speaker 5: see the reaction from some and as soon as like
Speaker 5: I know, as soon as I say, well, I'm not
Speaker 5: really sure that they're worried about me. It's like the
Speaker 5: thing with the vaccine, like the chip, you know, like
Speaker 5: I would lean into that and like make fun of
Speaker 5: it because yeah, yeah I got my chip, I got
Speaker 5: my booster chip. Like just because people would think that
Speaker 5: they're planning a chip inside of you, and I just
Speaker 5: think that's funny that that's that's what people think. But
Speaker 5: even if they were, I mean, anyway.
Speaker 6: We all have a chip in our hands into our
Speaker 6: cell phone. Yeah, like it's.
Speaker 4: What's the different?
Speaker 5: Well said, that's a good point. But anyways, we are
Speaker 5: six days away, is that right? It's next Tuesday?
Speaker 2: Isn't it?
Speaker 1: Tuesday?
Speaker 4: The election?
Speaker 6: So Chris glad we have plenty of alternatives that night too, though,
Speaker 6: instead of elections.
Speaker 5: Oh yeah, absolutely, You've got obviously, the the Champions Classic.
Speaker 4: You've got the.
Speaker 5: First look at the college football playoff rankings, and I
Speaker 5: can tell you this, that's where I will be spending
Speaker 5: my time. I'm going to be watching the rankings and
Speaker 5: watching some good college basketball matchups, and I'll be keeping up.
Speaker 5: I mean, I'm not gonna lie and I act like
Speaker 5: you know, I'll wake up the next day and just
Speaker 5: then then I'll find out, Like I mean, it's gonna be.
Speaker 5: It's got to be one of the most anticipated elections ever, right,
Speaker 5: I mean it's always last.
Speaker 6: Two or three have progressively gotten more and more contentious, but.
Speaker 4: This one's next level, right. I don't know.
Speaker 6: For me personally, I feel like I've done a really
Speaker 6: good job at tuning out a lot of the nonsense
Speaker 6: this time around. That wasn't the case with the previous
Speaker 6: two elections. I just I'm just fed up with the
Speaker 6: people who can't control, whether you're talking about earlier, people
Speaker 6: who just don't act like human beings on whether it
Speaker 6: be in real life or social media, any of that stuff.
Speaker 6: It's just not worth taking the time to look at it.
Speaker 5: I feel well, And I mean, we've never been in
Speaker 5: a period where I don't know what to believe, Like
Speaker 5: I mean, I don't know what's real, what's not. I
Speaker 5: don't know what video clip that is shared as doctored,
Speaker 5: Like I saw two different clips of what Biden said
Speaker 5: about Trump's supporters being trash, and like I wouldn't mean,
Speaker 5: I don't know if it's AI, I don't know if
Speaker 5: it's just edited. I don't know what it is, but
Speaker 5: like it looked real to me, And I watched two
Speaker 5: different versions of it, and I would have easily believed
Speaker 5: that both were legit, and clearly there's not. It wasn't
Speaker 5: as if it was. I mean one of them was.
Speaker 5: Doctor not sure which one it was, you know what
Speaker 5: I mean, Like it's just where we are. So it's
Speaker 5: a good time, though, because when you've got college football
Speaker 5: going on, the NFL's going on, obviously, the NBA has
Speaker 5: already started. College basketball actually starts right as the election day.
Speaker 5: It actually strets the day before election day, next next Monday. Yeah,
Speaker 5: so you know, that's a nice distraction. But I will
Speaker 5: be more interested to see what happens, not only on
Speaker 5: election Day, election night, what happens after the fact. I'm
Speaker 5: more interested in that than I've ever been. And it's
Speaker 5: not because you know, I'm a concerned American citizen about
Speaker 5: our future.
Speaker 4: I mean, I would like to lie.
Speaker 5: I could lie to you and tell you that that's why,
Speaker 5: But I mean, I feel like I have no real
Speaker 5: control over it. So I'm just gonna sit back and
Speaker 5: watch and what happened. Yeah, Now, I do feel like
Speaker 5: you know, I mean I have, I have probably stronger
Speaker 5: opinions on who I'm voting for than I've ever had,
Speaker 5: but I'm not going to share them here because what
Speaker 5: good would that do?
Speaker 2: What? You know what?
Speaker 5: Uh, the only thing that could do is hurt me.
Speaker 5: So anyways, twelve minutes in, let's let's let's move on
Speaker 5: from the election. Maybe maybe we'll get back in it later.
Speaker 5: I know John's really itching to share his thoughts on
Speaker 5: uh on what's gonna happen next Tuesday?
Speaker 4: A kid, I mean, he might be, but we don't.
Speaker 6: Well, show on Tuesday is actually going to be debating.
Speaker 2: You and me.
Speaker 5: Yeah, we were gonna we were gonna let you guys
Speaker 5: know that yesterday, but we forgot, as you know, but
Speaker 5: six days out.
Speaker 4: Just be ready from three to.
Speaker 5: Six pm next Tuesday, it'll be nothing but wall to
Speaker 5: wall election coverage analysis. Call in, tell us how much
Speaker 5: you hate Kamala Harris, tell us how much you hate
Speaker 5: Trump and wet we only we don't want you talking
Speaker 5: about why you're gonna vote for this person and why
Speaker 5: it's a good thing. We just want to hear how
Speaker 5: much you hate the other side that because that's what
Speaker 5: we want. That's what we make good radios. So you
Speaker 5: know that's what we'll do. Looking forward to it next
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Speaker 5: mister David Hale of ESPN. He's going to join us
Speaker 5: to talk about the matchup on Saturday night, Louisville and Clemson.
Speaker 5: And this team's done it again, they have they've never
Speaker 5: lost me. But it's been a wild ride. And again,
Speaker 5: I still think the best word to use here when
Speaker 5: describing Louisville football in twenty twenty four. From a fans' perspective,
Speaker 5: it's frustrating because you know, there's a reason the computers,
Speaker 5: the analytics love this team. Well I shouldn't say love them,
Speaker 5: but they like them a lot better than you know
Speaker 5: the record does. And you are what your record indicates.
Speaker 5: The computers don't matter. The computers can't win for you.
Speaker 5: But this team is actually shown to be you know,
Speaker 5: I hate to say it because it's what losers say,
Speaker 5: but I'll say it better than their record indicates, because
Speaker 5: they've been in games with some good teams. Remember all
Speaker 5: that nonsense everybody was yelling about before the season started, Well,
Speaker 5: a little of it doesn't play anybody. Their schedules weak.
Speaker 5: I mean, they'll probably walk into the playoff with that schedule,
Speaker 5: all that loud mouth nonsense. Louill's schedule is stronger than
Speaker 5: most people realize, at least as of right now.
Speaker 4: That could change.
Speaker 5: But like Louisville has three losses, and all of their
Speaker 5: losses are against teams that are ranked that will probably
Speaker 5: end up being ranked for you know, I mean easily
Speaker 5: SMU could fall if they dropped a pit which that's
Speaker 5: who they're playing this weekend, which is actually a sneaky
Speaker 5: good acc game. So, you know, Louisville, I still have
Speaker 5: always believed this team has the ability to be better
Speaker 5: than they've been, but you're getting late in the year
Speaker 5: to where you really don't know, you know, you really
Speaker 5: don't know if they're ever going to turn it on.
Speaker 5: And what I don't know is this desperation for me.
Speaker 5: Am I desperate here to you know, just try to
Speaker 5: find something to grasp onto as a positive and carry
Speaker 5: it into the game Saturday. So I'm at least excited
Speaker 5: about it because I'm excited, and it's not that I've
Speaker 5: got a ton of confidence. It's more just about seeing
Speaker 5: all right, gut check time. Man, these guys came back
Speaker 5: from twenty nothing. Twenty to nothing was the score in
Speaker 5: the first half. They came back and won dominated the
Speaker 5: rest of the way. And it wasn't just the fact
Speaker 5: that they were able to overcome that adversity. It's also
Speaker 5: that they I mean, they started carrying themselves a little
Speaker 5: bit different and the defense probably looked better than it
Speaker 5: did at any point this year as far as consistently.
Speaker 5: Right after Boston College scored in the third quarter, from
Speaker 5: then on, they were dominant and I'm hoping that that
Speaker 5: can carry over to Clemson. Obviously a big jump up
Speaker 5: in competition from Boston College to Clemson. But again, for me,
Speaker 5: it's never been about does Louisville have the ability do
Speaker 5: they have good enough players? It's more so just been
Speaker 5: about can they put it all together? And look, they
Speaker 5: may put it all together and still come up short
Speaker 5: because they are playing Clemson at their place. But I'm
Speaker 5: as excited for this game as I have been for
Speaker 5: really any game this year. I mean that because what
Speaker 5: we sough at the end of Boston College like that
Speaker 5: was something like that was. I mean again, you can claim, well, hey, Nick,
Speaker 5: you're you're an idiot. That doesn't mean anything. Look who
Speaker 5: they played, and maybe you're right, like maybe they'll get
Speaker 5: humbled in a major way and get beat down at
Speaker 5: Death Valley, like that's a real possibility. But it was
Speaker 5: inspiring football. They weren't, you know, they looked sure of
Speaker 5: themselves for the first time really since they played the
Speaker 5: lousy teams earlier this year. So again, I'm sure it
Speaker 5: sounds like some desperation on my end, just because I
Speaker 5: want to be excited and pumped up for a big game.
Speaker 5: It is a chance to knock off a really good
Speaker 5: team at their play, something you've never done before winning
Speaker 5: at Clemson. So we'll talk about the matchup coming up
Speaker 5: here in about ten minutes or so. When we were
Speaker 5: joined by David Hale of ESPN, Looking forward to to
Speaker 5: catching up with him also some of the things we'll
Speaker 5: get into today. If you're a Kentucky fan listening and
Speaker 5: you you know you were a little worried early on
Speaker 5: last night, maybe you feel a little differently about this
Speaker 5: team compared to what you know, compared to what you
Speaker 5: felt last time around. I mean, I mean when I
Speaker 5: say last time around, obviously they had an exhibition game
Speaker 5: where they won by a billion in their first game
Speaker 5: against Westland, and last night they won pretty big. But
Speaker 5: you know I could, I could. I could sense it
Speaker 5: from just the time line on Twitter. Some Kentucky fans
Speaker 5: that I know, like you're seeing one or two plays
Speaker 5: where Minnesota State gets an offensive rebound and scores on you,
Speaker 5: or they're out rebounding you with like four minutes left
Speaker 5: in the first half, and like it puts you in
Speaker 5: panic mode because you're thinking, like, oh, what's gonna happen.
Speaker 5: When we'd play Duke and I'm here to tell you
Speaker 5: take my advice. And this is me being nice. This
Speaker 5: is me putting the rivalry aside and being nice and
Speaker 5: giving I think, valuable advice to Kentucky fans. Don't don't
Speaker 5: don't get too high too low about anything that happens
Speaker 5: in these games, because I did the same thing, like
Speaker 5: I didn't bring it to the airwaves because it you know,
Speaker 5: I quickly realized like there's no way to really know
Speaker 5: if this means anything or not good or bad that's
Speaker 5: going on in these exhibition games. But you know, I
Speaker 5: kind of felt like at times whenever I would watch
Speaker 5: Spalding get an offensive rebound or Spalding go on a
Speaker 5: five zero run, and again, it doesn't mean it's it's
Speaker 5: impossible to know if that really means anything at all.
Speaker 5: But because you know that you have expectations for your
Speaker 5: team and you know the opponent you're playing is not
Speaker 5: good and clearly Minnesota State's a good D two team,
Speaker 5: but like if a D two, if a D two
Speaker 5: team can can be competitive with you in segments of
Speaker 5: a game, you start to worry, like, geez, what's Cooper
Speaker 5: Flagg gonna do? So you know, it was nice to
Speaker 5: see him sweat a little bit last night. But we'll
Speaker 5: find out where Kentucky is in six days because that
Speaker 5: and again, they could get blown out and still be
Speaker 5: good because Duke may just be that special. But I
Speaker 5: know there's many of them watching last night that you know, realize, Hey,
Speaker 5: this team could be good. There could be They're gonna
Speaker 5: be fun to watch. I'm sure if you're a Kentucky
Speaker 5: fan and they're gonna be good enough to probably make
Speaker 5: the tournament, I would assume that'd be a real surprise
Speaker 5: if they If they aren't, at least from my perspective. However,
Speaker 5: this is not a team that has a ceiling that
Speaker 5: you can rely on like you did for a over
Speaker 5: a decade with Cal.
Speaker 4: Cal could have.
Speaker 5: Teams that were not very good, underwhelming, had some bad losses,
Speaker 5: but you always knew in any moment they could turn
Speaker 5: it on because they had dudes, they're gonna play in
Speaker 5: the NBA. I don't know if there's an NBA guy
Speaker 5: on this Kentucky team. I mean, I'm sure there's somebody
Speaker 5: or maybe two guys, maybe three that'll end up playing
Speaker 5: in the NBA, but not to the point where you're
Speaker 5: gonna be drafted, where Reed Shepherd was, where Rob Dillingham was,
Speaker 5: because that's just not how Pope's gonna build the roster.
Speaker 5: And to be fair, ninety eight percent of college basketball
Speaker 5: coaches are not gonna build the rosters the way John
Speaker 5: Caliperry does. It's just a big difference. So anyways, we
Speaker 5: can talk a little bit about that. Also some other things.
Speaker 5: We need to get into that ACC tiebreaker because there's
Speaker 5: a real chance that you could see three is it
Speaker 5: three unbeaten teams? Yeah, because Clemson and Florida State don't
Speaker 5: play each other, SMU Clemson and SMU Clemson in Miami,
Speaker 5: and I say Florida State, they could all be unbeaten
Speaker 5: at the end of the year. In fact, that may
Speaker 5: be the expected outcome. And if that or Pitt, because
Speaker 5: Pitt's unbeaten too, Pitt and SMU play each other. So
Speaker 5: let's say, you know what it's going to come down
Speaker 5: to is how good your opponents did, which I've got
Speaker 5: one big takeaway. If that plays out to where you
Speaker 5: decide who gets to go to the ACC Championship game
Speaker 5: based off of the opponents you played in league play,
Speaker 5: how well they were, how good they were, that's a
Speaker 5: flawed way to do it.
Speaker 4: I mean, that.
Speaker 5: Sucks if you get left out on that type of technicality.
Speaker 5: So we're loaded the rest of the way. Hopefully you
Speaker 5: guys will stick with us. We're gonna take you up
Speaker 5: till six o'clock again. On the other side, we'll talk
Speaker 5: to David Halo ESPN to preview this Louisville Clemson matchup
Speaker 5: on Saturday.
Speaker 4: Stick with us, it's coffee and company.
Speaker 5: Feel about Thorton's right here on Sports Talk seven ninety.
Speaker 5: I've gone from being annoyed by the correction police to
Speaker 5: really needing the correction police. And what I mean by
Speaker 5: the correction police. You know it used to be phone
Speaker 5: lines lit. Because I mentioned so and so had eighteen
Speaker 5: points last night. What's this dumb ass talking about? He
Speaker 5: had seventeen points? You know, that's the correction police when
Speaker 5: they're annoying. But then sometimes they correct me and I'm like, wow,
Speaker 5: I'm glad you told me. I've been on the impression
Speaker 5: that next Tuesday was the Champions Classic, the big tip
Speaker 5: off of him for college hoops, and it's not. It's
Speaker 5: actually a week from Tuesday, which makes sense. I mean,
Speaker 5: that's a TV event. It usually doesn't fill up those
Speaker 5: NBA arenas where it takes place, so it makes total
Speaker 5: sense to move it on a non election I'd see
Speaker 5: you get a lot more viewers.
Speaker 4: But thank you those that corrected.
Speaker 5: Us on that. You know, I think I might have
Speaker 5: just turned on ESPN whenever when everybody else is watching
Speaker 5: election coverage and realize where's the basketball game?
Speaker 6: So I thought the same thing too, because it's always
Speaker 6: corresponds with the playoff rankings that we talk about.
Speaker 5: Yeah, and that's typically what they've done is it's been
Speaker 5: the same thing. You get your first look at the
Speaker 5: playoff rankings and then they play, you know, some big
Speaker 5: time matchups in college hoops at the earliest point of
Speaker 5: the season. So anyways, it's not next week, it's the
Speaker 5: week after that. So I assume many of you knew that,
Speaker 5: and you know I'm the dumb ass here, But if
Speaker 5: you were a dumb ass because of me, now we
Speaker 5: are informed and we now know the schedule. So sorry
Speaker 5: about that. All right, it's Coffee and Company, that's us fuel.
Speaker 5: Beuth Thornton's right here on Sports Talk seven to ninety.
Speaker 5: Let's bring him in to join us. Mister David Hale
Speaker 5: of ESPN, we're talking some college football, Louisville and Clemson,
Speaker 5: a big matchup. Well, I'll ask you this is this
Speaker 5: the second biggest matchup of the weekend in the ACC.
Speaker 5: I would imagine SMU and Pitt. I mean not big
Speaker 5: brands by any means, but two teams that are off
Speaker 5: to good starts. Are we second place here between the
Speaker 5: Cards and the Tigers?
Speaker 2: First off, let me go back to your correction here,
Speaker 2: because I just want to point out, isn't it fascinating
Speaker 2: that somebody in college sports said, hey, maybe we shouldn't
Speaker 2: go head to head with the election, but yet the.
Speaker 3: Rankings reveal they didn't care about that. They said, I
Speaker 3: what election, Let's let's go ahead and put that out there.
Speaker 5: Oh college football. College football moves the needle man. They
Speaker 5: just I mean, in fact, I'm surprised they didn't just
Speaker 5: move the election back knowing that they're going to give
Speaker 5: us the college football playoff rankings.
Speaker 2: That's a great point. That's a great point. There's gonna
Speaker 2: be so much outrage one Tuesday night. It just it's
Speaker 2: hard to believe it. Uh.
Speaker 3: To the answer your ladder question, Uh yeah, I mean I.
Speaker 2: Sm Pitt is probably just because of the way that
Speaker 2: that things have shaken out the bigger game, I guess
Speaker 2: uh and in some respects that it might be a
Speaker 2: little bit of an elimination game from ACC Championship.
Speaker 3: Given sort of where we're at in the standings, I would.
Speaker 2: Argue the two more talented teams are gonna be the
Speaker 2: ones playing at Clemson at Death Valley. And I know
Speaker 2: Louisville's got three losses, but that's still to me a
Speaker 2: really good football team. I mean, those three losses are
Speaker 2: all to very good teams by a touchdown or less.
Speaker 2: You know, Louisville has has traditionally played Clemson very close
Speaker 2: in Death Valley. They haven't won a lot of them,
Speaker 2: have won any of them, but they've been good games.
Speaker 2: I still have some real questions about this Clemson team,
Speaker 2: not because I don't think that they're markedly better than
Speaker 2: they were last year.
Speaker 3: They they pretty clearly are.
Speaker 2: But you know, their schedule as opposed to Louisville has
Speaker 2: been a breeze. I think if you flip flop their schedules,
Speaker 2: I'm not sure how much different things would be for
Speaker 2: Clemson than they are for Louisville right now, and vice versa.
Speaker 2: So you know to me, I it's maybe the more
Speaker 2: intriguing matchup between two genuinely good teams.
Speaker 5: I think, yeah, you might have actually just answered my
Speaker 5: next question, which was is Louisville the best team Clemson's
Speaker 5: played since Georgia? I mean, I think it certainly looks
Speaker 5: like that, and that speaks more so too. I think
Speaker 5: just their schedule as of now more so than than Louisville.
Speaker 5: But again, louis has been a weird team this year. Man, Like,
Speaker 5: I still think they're pretty damn good, but their record
Speaker 5: doesn't really indicate that. And your record really is how
Speaker 5: people are going to evaluate if you're good, if you're bad.
Speaker 5: But you know, with Clemson, what's made them better than
Speaker 5: they were a year ago?
Speaker 2: Is it?
Speaker 5: You know, a variety of things? Is it Kate Klubnick
Speaker 5: taking a big step forward? Because I was actually asking
Speaker 5: myself this yesterday looking at what they've done this year.
Speaker 5: However many games in they are compared to last year.
Speaker 5: I mean, I think they're better too, but I'm starting
Speaker 5: to think, like, Okay, how much better are they? Is
Speaker 5: this more of just a product than taking advantage of
Speaker 5: that slate in the schedule, or are they really, like
Speaker 5: I mean, I guess to wrap it up, I mean,
Speaker 5: isn't this a big chance for Clemson to maybe show
Speaker 5: that they are a lot better than a year ago.
Speaker 5: It sounds like I'm giving Love a little little too
Speaker 5: much credit. They're playing a team with three losses that's unranked,
Speaker 5: But I kind of feel like this is a this
Speaker 5: is a measuring stick game for for both teams at
Speaker 5: this point.
Speaker 3: No, I think you're entirely right.
Speaker 2: And you know, talking to Dabo Sweeney this week, I mean,
Speaker 2: he said, hands down, this is the best challenge they've
Speaker 2: had since Georgia, and particularly with the first playoff rankings
Speaker 2: coming a couple of days after this game, I think
Speaker 2: it is a really important moment for Clemson to make
Speaker 2: a statement against a better team.
Speaker 3: And look, at the end of the day, I think.
Speaker 2: Everybody, you are who you are, you are who your
Speaker 2: record says you are.
Speaker 3: That that is I believe that wholeheartedly.
Speaker 2: But the committee and probably a lot of us now
Speaker 2: do spend a lot more time on the advanced metrics
Speaker 2: and dig into some of the nitty gritty details beyond
Speaker 2: just your win loss record. And Clemson has not played.
Speaker 2: Take this metric for what you will, but at ESPN's
Speaker 2: FBI ranking. Clemson has not played since Georgia a team
Speaker 2: that is ranked better than seventieth. Louisville, for better or worse,
Speaker 2: is still ranked nineteenth in that metric right now. So
Speaker 2: this is a real you know, if you're diving into
Speaker 2: the dirty details, this is a really big game for
Speaker 2: Clemson before these first rankings to say that no, this
Speaker 2: isn't just a product of the schedule, that we're good,
Speaker 2: We're actually good, and to answer why you know again,
Speaker 2: I think there is probably a lot of different reasons.
Speaker 2: Matt Luke and a new look offensive line has been
Speaker 2: a big part of that.
Speaker 3: The offensive line is playing much much better football.
Speaker 2: But you also have to ask, like, are they better
Speaker 2: because they haven't played a great pass rush yet. To me,
Speaker 2: the key for Louisville is making kid Club to come
Speaker 2: uncomfortable in the pocket.
Speaker 3: The receivers are better Clemson this year, without question.
Speaker 2: They've got two freshmen that they've used a little more
Speaker 2: sparingly than maybe some of us have thought, but they've
Speaker 2: used them wisely. Antonio Williams is healthy.
Speaker 3: It was not last year. There's just weapons for Kate
Speaker 3: Klebnick to throw to, and he has gotten better too.
Speaker 2: I mean, I'm kind of working on a story now.
Speaker 2: I just talked to Kate today for a while about
Speaker 2: just how rare it is for quarterbacks at high profile
Speaker 2: schools to be given an opportunity to develop like that
Speaker 2: first year is a starter as a whirlwind. And he
Speaker 2: had his moments last year, but he had some really
Speaker 2: bad ones too that he needed time to learn from.
Speaker 3: And you kind of you look at Tennessee and what
Speaker 3: Nico I am?
Speaker 2: I am male Lea, I'll get it. Never mind Nico
Speaker 2: at Sennessee, Jackson at Jackson, Arnold at Oklahoma, Like, these
Speaker 2: guys are not without talent, but they're going through growing pains.
Speaker 3: And we really, in this era of the transfer portal
Speaker 3: do not allow quarterbacks to go through growing pains very
Speaker 3: often anymore.
Speaker 2: And Kate is probably one of the few that I
Speaker 2: think has come out the other side a better, better
Speaker 2: quarterback and better place for it.
Speaker 5: David hal VESPN is our guest joining us here talking
Speaker 5: about the subcoming matchup between Clemson and Louisville, obviously a
Speaker 5: big game for both programs. Davila Sweeney talked very highly
Speaker 5: of Louisville earlier this week in his press conference. You
Speaker 5: mentioned you chatted with him as well of and I'm
Speaker 5: sure there's many things he's really going to be focusing
Speaker 5: on as far as scheme and trying to take some
Speaker 5: things away from Louisville, things that he's going to try
Speaker 5: to exploit. What would you say could be the real
Speaker 5: danger for Clemson if anything? I mean, what about Louisville?
Speaker 5: Do you think could it like if we if it
Speaker 5: ends up being Louisville's first ever victory and death Valley again,
Speaker 5: there'll be a multiple factors that led them there. But
Speaker 5: what would you think would be the big takeaway as
Speaker 5: can you kind of to predict the future here? Something
Speaker 5: that could really potentially give them some problems?
Speaker 2: Yeah, I think there's two things. One is just Jeff
Speaker 2: Brahm as a play caller and an offensive mind, Like
Speaker 2: they will they do so much in terms of movements
Speaker 2: and pre snap and then getting Tyler Schuck out of
Speaker 2: the pocket and footing him and then moving in the
Speaker 2: other running the play in the other in direction, Like
Speaker 2: there's so much eye candy with what they want to
Speaker 2: do off defensively, and Clemson's defense has been good this year,
Speaker 2: but as several other guys said, this week, they've been
Speaker 2: a little boom or bust. They've given up I think
Speaker 2: twenty more explosives this year at this time than they
Speaker 2: had last year at this time. And so that's just
Speaker 2: because the backups have played more than they did last year.
Speaker 2: But their their eye discipline has not always been great
Speaker 2: this year and Louisville is a team that will absolutely
Speaker 2: take advantage of that. And then on the flip side,
Speaker 2: you look at at at Kate Klubnick. Again, he's had
Speaker 2: a lot of success, but he's had a very comfortable
Speaker 2: pocket more often than not. And the and the I
Speaker 2: think the knock on Cade particularly last year was that
Speaker 2: when you sped up the game and you sped up
Speaker 2: his decision making, he was prone to make mistakes. Well,
Speaker 2: I think Louisville is the team that is willing to go,
Speaker 2: you know, cover zero and put their their corners on
Speaker 2: an island and really try to get after the quarterback,
Speaker 2: probably as much as anybody they've played since Georgia. And
Speaker 2: so I think a lot of the pressure is going
Speaker 2: to be on that Louisville defensive line to make stuff
Speaker 2: happened when they're they're not blitzing. But I do think
Speaker 2: that that Louisville could afford to be aggressive and see
Speaker 2: what will happen. Like if you can make kid club
Speaker 2: Nick uncomfortable and push him into a mistake, I think
Speaker 2: that's how you beat them. So to me, it's it's
Speaker 2: you know, a little bit of the misdirection and eye
Speaker 2: candy on offense, and without question, I think the defensive
Speaker 2: line has to play their best game of the year.
Speaker 5: Do you think Louisville is not capitalizing on a really
Speaker 5: good quarterback they only have for one year. I'm not
Speaker 5: hearing anybody say that Tyler Schuck isn't good, but you know,
Speaker 5: Louisville not being a real contender at this point in
Speaker 5: the ACC race I think has kind of led to him.
Speaker 5: And it actually I feel like I was about to
Speaker 5: tell a fib and say that like he's flying under
Speaker 5: the radar. But it's not like people are saying he's
Speaker 5: not any good. But you know, around here, I feel
Speaker 5: like he's the best. I mean, I think a lot
Speaker 5: of fans agree he's the best quarterback louis has had
Speaker 5: since Lamar Jackson, and you know that that's probably saying
Speaker 5: more about who they've had since then. But I think
Speaker 5: fans around here feel like they've got a really good
Speaker 5: offense with some really good weapons, and to have three
Speaker 5: losses at the point, again, they are they're all the
Speaker 5: good they're all the good teams. It's just, you know,
Speaker 5: if Louisville doesn't have a special season. And I guess
Speaker 5: how you define special really is in the eye of
Speaker 5: the beholder, but I don't know. That's what's been so
Speaker 5: frustrating from the Louisville side of things is that they've
Speaker 5: made some real critical mistakes, in fact, a lot of
Speaker 5: critical mistakes at terrible times in these games. And you know,
Speaker 5: that's that's part of your identity at this point, you
Speaker 5: played in a football to where you got to look
Speaker 5: in the mirror. But again, this team should be better
Speaker 5: than they are.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's been frustrating because there are I mean, even
Speaker 2: in the losses against you know, Notre Dame is a
Speaker 2: great example of like, there were so many opportunities there
Speaker 2: that that were not taken advantage of. And to me,
Speaker 2: this is a really good football team that has at
Speaker 2: this point not played four quarters of complimentary football at
Speaker 2: any real point. You know, the loss to Miami, you know,
Speaker 2: I thought Miami was probably the better team, but Louisville
Speaker 2: hung with a really good football team and a really
Speaker 2: good offense by playing some great offense too, Tyler Shuck
Speaker 2: has been terrific to your point, I, you know, and
Speaker 2: and I think you have to look no further than
Speaker 2: another team in the ACC in Florida State to realize, like,
Speaker 2: you don't get great transfer quarterbacks all the time, and
Speaker 2: even when you think you went out and got a
Speaker 2: decent one, it doesn't always work. So like this has
Speaker 2: been a home run for Louisville in terms of the quarterback,
Speaker 2: and then you're pairing him with a freshman running back
Speaker 2: who is probably as good as almost anybody in the
Speaker 2: country right now, and you've lost those opportunities. And it's funny,
Speaker 2: you know. I've talked to a couple of coaches like,
Speaker 2: just you know, how good are some of these teams
Speaker 2: that are playing well in the ACC right now. SMU
Speaker 2: is to me a really good sort of counterpoint to Louisville,
Speaker 2: and that there's good offensive weapons. I would argue Louisville's
Speaker 2: had better quarterback play, but the breaks have largely gone
Speaker 2: SMU's way. They've gotten takeaways when they've needed them, they've
Speaker 2: made the big play when they needed to, they've converted
Speaker 2: the third or fourth down that they needed to to
Speaker 2: win a game, and Louisville has it. And so the
Speaker 2: difference between Louisville and SMU right now is a full
Speaker 2: of very very small plays over the course of a season,
Speaker 2: or you'd be talking about the reverse of the standings
Speaker 2: that they're in right now. So to me, I think
Speaker 2: they are a very good team, but they are a
Speaker 2: very good team who has not come up big when
Speaker 2: they need to do the most.
Speaker 5: Is it fair to say that maybe SMU is Louisville
Speaker 5: from a year ago. I think you kind of just
Speaker 5: kind of talked me through that. I feel like that's
Speaker 5: kind of the because Louisville obviously had a lot of
Speaker 5: breaks go their way, and clearly there's some luck involved.
Speaker 5: But you know, I think you can also develop a
Speaker 5: skill as a team how to win close games make
Speaker 5: big plays late at the end, and SMU certainly doing that.
Speaker 5: But SMU, I mean, they could end up being undefeated
Speaker 5: in league play, and I don't know if you'd really
Speaker 5: consider it that big of a shot considering what they've
Speaker 5: shown at this point and considering the rest of their schedule.
Speaker 2: Right Yeah, and a little bit of done the same
Speaker 2: way too. I mean, I read lastly did a tremendous job,
Speaker 2: not really in building his team through the portal, but
Speaker 2: in buffering the team through the portal this year. So
Speaker 2: that is an SMU team that, you know, the bones
Speaker 2: of it were there probably before this year, but he
Speaker 2: added some very nice pieces to compliment what was already
Speaker 2: there to prep that team for the road that they
Speaker 2: had this year, which was going to be much tougher
Speaker 2: than anything they had in the AAC last year. So yeah,
Speaker 2: I mean I see a lot of a lot of
Speaker 2: sort of similarities between what Jeff Brohm did to get
Speaker 2: Louisville into a position to be good last year and
Speaker 2: then take advantage of those opportunities. It's been a similar
Speaker 2: story for SMU.
Speaker 5: So I think this is a year where the ACC,
Speaker 5: David has shown, you know, in non conference play nothing substantial.
Speaker 5: Obviously Clemson's big loss to Georgia stands out, but you know,
Speaker 5: I saw that, you know, your resume comparison between Penn
Speaker 5: State and pitt and you know, I don't know, I
Speaker 5: just feel like the ACC is never going to get
Speaker 5: the benefit of the doubt in the way that the
Speaker 5: SEC does and I should probably just accept that. And
Speaker 5: to be fair, I'm not even really sure that the
Speaker 5: Big ten gets it the same way the SEC does.
Speaker 5: But like right now, I think you can look around
Speaker 5: and if you're just basing it off of results from
Speaker 5: this year, I think it's safe to say the ACC
Speaker 5: has improved as a league.
Speaker 4: It's a pretty good league.
Speaker 5: Not to say that it's the best, but I just
Speaker 5: feel like perception of it is still nowhere near where
Speaker 5: you'd want it to be. As somebody who you know
Speaker 5: wants the ACC to do well.
Speaker 2: Yeah, no, I think you're one hundred percent right. And
Speaker 2: part of this is the exact same dynamic that the
Speaker 2: ACC has always faced, that the SEC gets the benefit
Speaker 2: of the doubt. You know, if Mississippi State or this
Speaker 2: very good example this year is Vanderbilt has a good season,
Speaker 2: it's like, oh, man, look at how deep the SEC is.
Speaker 2: Look at that those teams that sort of have sprung
Speaker 2: up from the bottom of the SEC when Pitt or
Speaker 2: Smme was good, must be the ACC is terrible. And
Speaker 2: I agree, I think on the whole look, I genuinely
Speaker 2: would probably put the SEC a class above everybody else
Speaker 2: at this point.
Speaker 5: I would too, But my whole argument is that the
Speaker 5: gap is never as big as they make it out
Speaker 5: to be.
Speaker 2: Absolutely absolutely not. You're one hundred percent right. I try
Speaker 2: to tell people this, and I think it is sort
Speaker 2: of the dirtiest secret of college football is that, like
Speaker 2: in any there are probably two to three, maybe four
Speaker 2: teams that are genuinely like, I can win a national
Speaker 2: championship level great, then maybe like four to eight more
Speaker 2: that are like, if things go right in the right moments,
Speaker 2: we can win a national championship level great. And then
Speaker 2: from like number twelve to like number thirty five, there's
Speaker 2: really not that much of a difference. And so we're
Speaker 2: talking about do you have one of those top ten
Speaker 2: to twelve teams? And then after that, how many are
Speaker 2: you kind of in the mix of that like pretty
Speaker 2: good but not great. To me, they profile very similarly
Speaker 2: to the Big ten, You know, I don't. I wouldn't
Speaker 2: have any issue with saying that they're on a similar
Speaker 2: comparison point, like, is Ohio State more talented than anybody
Speaker 2: in the ACC That maybe the case, but you know,
Speaker 2: I'd put Miami up against Ohio State and wouldn't feel
Speaker 2: like Miami's about to get blown out by this, and
Speaker 2: again a lot of the head to head records would
Speaker 2: showcase that too, So you know, I'm with you. I
Speaker 2: think it is a function of a lot of preconceptions
Speaker 2: and kind of going back to what we talked about earlier,
Speaker 2: that people like to dive into the analytics and the
Speaker 2: you know, Bill Connolly stats, which are great, but they're
Speaker 2: also a big sort of what we think should happen
Speaker 2: is the truth whether it happens or not, Like we
Speaker 2: have really, I think, as a group of fans and
Speaker 2: evaluators gotten way too far away from like who actually
Speaker 2: won the.
Speaker 5: Real real results. Yeah, it's all about perception. It's all
Speaker 5: about Yeah. I mean you literally just laid out sort
Speaker 5: of what's been a growing frustration for me is just
Speaker 5: a college football fan in general, is that we don't
Speaker 5: analytics are great.
Speaker 4: I enjoy them, They're interesting to me. I think they're valuable.
Speaker 5: But we have certainly at least you know, a portion
Speaker 5: of those that cover not just college football college basketball.
Speaker 5: Throw that in there too, like we don't really factor
Speaker 5: in who actually won the games as much like you
Speaker 5: could look at a team that's six and two and
Speaker 5: go ahead.
Speaker 2: You mentioned that the Pitt and Penn State comparison that
Speaker 2: I put out today. So one of the things that
Speaker 2: I didn't add in there, which would certainly help Penn
Speaker 2: State's cause, is Penn State has the best win on
Speaker 2: there against I think it was the number sixteen FBI team,
Speaker 2: And so you think, well, beating the number sixteen team
Speaker 2: an FBI or ST plus whatever you're using, that's pretty good.
Speaker 2: You know who that team is. Though, USC, like, I
Speaker 2: don't know why USC is ranked that highly in these
Speaker 2: advanced metrics because I've watched them play and they're not
Speaker 2: very good, exactly, Like I look, I've watched Syracuse play
Speaker 2: and I've watched USC play, and USC might be a
Speaker 2: little bit better. But to me, I do not see
Speaker 2: a massive distinction between those two. But the rankings are
Speaker 2: going to put them as a massive distinction, And so
Speaker 2: it looks way better for Penn State that it does
Speaker 2: for pitt to be to beat Syracuse the way that
Speaker 2: they did. And and and to me, like I just
Speaker 2: I have such a hard time with the fact that,
Speaker 2: like the whole point is to win the games, and
Speaker 2: if we're constantly like reverse engineering what the actual final
Speaker 2: score was, to say, well, no, no, no, no, this team
Speaker 2: is still better because the math says that, like you know,
Speaker 2: I don't.
Speaker 3: I don't like I went.
Speaker 2: I went to grade school and was picked on in
Speaker 2: grade school because I liked math and was bad at sports.
Speaker 2: Why are we listening to.
Speaker 4: People like me now?
Speaker 2: Not the math?
Speaker 5: It worked out, it worked out the wrong way for you,
Speaker 5: if that's the case. But David, we appreciate you making
Speaker 5: time for us, my man. Always a great conversation. Enjoy
Speaker 5: another great week into college football. We'll talk soon, brother,
Speaker 5: all right, good duck, take care. That's David HALVESPN. Really
Speaker 5: good stuff there. Really appreciated making time for us.
Speaker 4: We got to run.
Speaker 5: We'll have a really quick segment on the other end
Speaker 5: here to to wrap at three o'clock our right here
Speaker 5: on Sports Talk seven ninety. I mean, when I say it,
Speaker 5: I am. I'm as excited for this game on Saturday
Speaker 5: than I have been all year, because you know, I'm
Speaker 5: not gonna be I mean, I could be let down
Speaker 5: if they get blown out, obviously, but we've already been
Speaker 5: let down kind of enough this year to where I'm
Speaker 5: just anxious and eager to see if they're if they're
Speaker 5: gonna be ready to play, and they could put four
Speaker 5: they could put four quarters together and come out come
Speaker 5: up short.
Speaker 4: Still, I mean, I'm well aware of that, but I
Speaker 4: would take that.
Speaker 5: I mean, again, losing four games, but you know by
Speaker 5: early November is not ideal. But again, seeing this team
Speaker 5: put a full game together, you know, even if they
Speaker 5: end up not having a great record, which they're not
Speaker 5: going to probably, it's still something I'm just wanting to see.
Speaker 4: All right.
Speaker 5: Jefferson Animal Hospital, you guys know all about them, at
Speaker 5: least you should if you listen, if you listen closely.
Speaker 5: I've been talking about them for months now, and I'll
Speaker 5: continue to talk about them because they're great. That's who
Speaker 5: you need to turn to it and that's who you
Speaker 5: need to trust when it comes to keeping your pets safe.
Speaker 5: Jefferson Animal Hospital. You can visit them on outer Loop.
Speaker 4: Stop right in. They're open twenty four.
Speaker 5: Hours a day. They'd be happy to see you. In fact,
Speaker 5: they would be you'd make their day if you stopped
Speaker 5: in there and said, hey, you know, just wanted to
Speaker 5: get some information. I've got a dog or a cat
Speaker 5: or whatever whatever pets you have, and say hey, I'd
Speaker 5: like to schedule something to bring them in, get them
Speaker 5: looked at. Maybe see if they need some shots, that
Speaker 5: kind of stuff. So again, they've been in business for
Speaker 5: forty four years and they're open every day at all times.
Speaker 5: And I would not be shocked if there are people
Speaker 5: who who've had an emergency with their pet at a
Speaker 5: certain time of the night or maybe on a certain
Speaker 5: day a holiday, and you just assume, well, what am
Speaker 5: I gonna do? It's Christmas, it's Thanksgiving, it's what happened. Well,
Speaker 5: it doesn't matter. They're gonna be open because they know
Speaker 5: emergencies happen. So you don't stick around for forty four
Speaker 5: years unless you're taking care of your customers and taking
Speaker 5: care of their pets. And you also don't stick around
Speaker 5: that long without having a great reputation, and they have
Speaker 5: exactly that. So Jefferson Animal Hospital. You can get more
Speaker 5: information at Jefferson Vets dot com or give them a call.
Speaker 5: Five two nine hundred pets. All right, Sorry for the
Speaker 5: short segment. It's okay though. We'll finish strong here. Two
Speaker 5: hours left and a lot more to get into, so
Speaker 5: stick around. We'll have some fun. I mean I'm gonna
Speaker 5: have fun. Hopefully you guys will have fun too. Right
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