Speaker 1: It's Night Side with Dan Ray on WBZ Costin's Radio.
Speaker 2: Okay, I want to.
Speaker 3: Talk about a point that was raised by former Attorney
Speaker 3: General Bill Barr. Now, I think everybody understands that Bill
Speaker 3: Barr and Donald Trump are not golfing buddies.
Speaker 2: Okay. The fact of the matter is.
Speaker 3: That that administration ended, and I don't know that either
Speaker 3: of them have really spent much time socializing.
Speaker 2: Let's put it like that, Okay. But bar Ray's a pretty.
Speaker 3: Interesting comment which hasn't been covered much by the mainstream media, surprise, surprise.
Speaker 3: And I think you know from our past programming, I'm
Speaker 3: not necessarily a big fan of Donald Trump, Okay, but
Speaker 3: he has been the subject of two assassination attempts in
Speaker 3: the last few months. In July in Pennsylvania Butler, Pennsylvania,
Speaker 3: and then earlier this month near his golf course.
Speaker 2: And if it had not been for the sharp.
Speaker 3: Lookout of I believe it's just one Secret Service agent
Speaker 3: that was riding ahead of the group that was playing golf.
Speaker 3: And I think it was just Trump and one other
Speaker 3: friend of his playing golf. It all could have ended
Speaker 3: very differently. So in this case, the shooter, Ryan Routh,
Speaker 3: who we now know a lot about was he planned.
Speaker 3: I mean, he spent twelve hours at that fence, just
Speaker 3: waiting for Donald Trump to walk by or to step
Speaker 3: up on the green of the sixth hole, and he
Speaker 3: would have finished the job. And of course the Secret
Speaker 3: Service agent, thankfully, and whether you like Donald Trump or not,
Speaker 3: I hope you would agree with that, thankfully interrupted his plan,
Speaker 3: fired off some shots, and Ruth ran away to some
Speaker 3: sort of a gettaway car which I don't know who
Speaker 3: he had. That was a woman saw what was going on,
Speaker 3: heard the gunfire, and she took a picture of the
Speaker 3: guy's license plate. And he was caught about forty five
Speaker 3: minutes later on I ninety five north, heading wherever whatever.
Speaker 3: So he's arrested and then he is charged, and they
Speaker 3: have a b a bail hearing, and at the bail
Speaker 3: hearing it comes out that a few days before his
Speaker 3: attempt at assassination, he had left a letter with a
Speaker 3: friend of his, and the friend did not produce the
Speaker 3: letter until did not find the letter until I guess
Speaker 3: three days after Ruth was arrested, So that means it
Speaker 3: would have been last week sometime that the letter was
Speaker 3: found and along with the letter, There was a whole
Speaker 3: bunch of other things. There was some I think again,
Speaker 3: I don't want to guess. But in this box that
Speaker 3: he left with the letter, which is the most important thing,
Speaker 3: there was some other items that he left.
Speaker 2: Now, there's a lot about this guy that we don't know, Okay.
Speaker 3: Primarily how did he travel the world? What was his
Speaker 3: source of financing? It has not been proven to any
Speaker 3: of us. What are shown to any of us what
Speaker 3: his source of financing was. He was living in Hawaii,
Speaker 3: which is an expensive place to live, but okay, living
Speaker 3: in Hawaii traveling to Ukraine, now, I'm assuming that you
Speaker 3: don't build up some frequent flyer miles and call up
Speaker 3: your travel agents and say, gee, I'd like to get
Speaker 3: on a flight to Kiev. What do you got going
Speaker 3: in that direction?
Speaker 2: Raycent?
Speaker 3: You know what, I'm sure it took a lot of
Speaker 3: machinations for him to get there. He was trying to
Speaker 3: apparently bring other soldiers of fortune with him. Who knows
Speaker 3: what was going through this guy's mind. Maybe he thought
Speaker 3: that if the Ukrainians win, he would be defeated as
Speaker 3: a superhero and maybe become the Secretary of Defense after
Speaker 3: they bestowed a Ukrainian citizenship.
Speaker 2: Who knows.
Speaker 3: He was obviously, in my opinion, a very troubled person.
Speaker 3: But when they had the bail hearing for him, the
Speaker 3: US magistrate in this case decided that there was a
Speaker 3: letter that he had written. And the Deputy Attorney General
Speaker 3: Lisa Monaco said at the time, this alleged attempted assassination
Speaker 3: of the former president and his golf course was a
Speaker 3: direct attack on our democracy, okay, and said all the
Speaker 3: right things. But somehow, some way, the prosecution, which is
Speaker 3: the Justice Department, and this clerk, this magistrate, judge, judge,
Speaker 3: Magistrate Leslie Is McCabe. I tried to do a little
Speaker 3: bit of background on him. It didn't come up with
Speaker 3: much information. To be really honest with you, he had
Speaker 3: written a letter. This is the letter that he left
Speaker 3: in the box with his friend. This is the words
Speaker 3: of Routh quote. This was an assassination attempt on Donald Trump.
Speaker 2: But I failed you. I don't know who he means
Speaker 2: by you, whether.
Speaker 3: He's talking about the collective you or he's trying to
Speaker 3: send a message to someone who financed this. I tried
Speaker 3: my best and gave it all the gumption I could muster.
Speaker 3: It is up to you now to finish the job,
Speaker 3: and I will offer one hundred and fifty thousand dollars
Speaker 3: to whomever can complete the job. The letter was in
Speaker 3: a box that that I'm quoting here for an article
Speaker 3: in USA Today that Ralph dropped off at the home
Speaker 3: of a witness who contacted authorities after he was arrested.
Speaker 3: The witness told investigators Ralph left the box at his
Speaker 3: residence several months ago.
Speaker 2: The Justice Department.
Speaker 3: Said, Now, as it turned out, the drag man has
Speaker 3: also arrested the alleged sniper's son or in Rowth of Greensboro,
Speaker 3: North Carolina. He's charged on Tuesday with receipt of child
Speaker 3: pornography and possession of child pornography after investigators searched his tablet.
Speaker 2: Okay.
Speaker 3: Now, Ralp's case has been assigned to a US District
Speaker 3: Court Judge Eileen Cannon, who is dealing with one of
Speaker 3: the criminal cases that Donald Trump is facing, and that
Speaker 3: is the materials that he took with him to his
Speaker 3: home in mar A Largo, which were recovered by the
Speaker 3: Justice Department with that now famous raid in mar A Lago.
Speaker 3: So what happened was I noticed this article that quoted.
Speaker 2: Bob Barr.
Speaker 3: He was the Attorney General, one of the attorney generals
Speaker 3: that served in the first Trump administration. Their parting was
Speaker 3: contentious at best. Barr argued that releasing the letters served
Speaker 3: no purpose other than to potentially incite further violence against
Speaker 3: the Republican nominee Donald Trump. The DOJ included the letter
Speaker 3: in quote filings while seeping to keep the account the
Speaker 3: accused Ryan Routh in pre trial detention. On Monday, the
Speaker 3: judge denied a request for bond for Ralph. However, again
Speaker 3: the letter that I just read, he admits it was
Speaker 3: an assassination attempt, but I failed you. I don't know
Speaker 3: if he's talking to everybody in the world or if
Speaker 3: he's talking to someone who might have financed this.
Speaker 2: I tried my best ick.
Speaker 3: Apologizing for not killing former President Trump, and gave it
Speaker 3: all the effort I could, Like he's some sort of
Speaker 3: a hero. It is now up to you. So I
Speaker 3: don't know who the U, if it's a specific you
Speaker 3: or if it's just.
Speaker 2: You in general.
Speaker 3: I will offer one hundred and fifty thousand dollars whoever
Speaker 3: completes it, meaning the mission. Well, first of all, he's
Speaker 3: not going to complete it, and one hundred and fifty
Speaker 3: thousand dollars is chump change. So this was the Again
Speaker 3: the statement of former Attorney General Barr, even if DOJ
Speaker 3: thought it important to provide the letters to the court,
Speaker 3: it could have redacted inflammatory material or arranged to have
Speaker 3: the letters submitted under seal of Former Attorney General. Barr
Speaker 3: noted it was rash to put it to put out
Speaker 3: this letter in the midst of an election during which
Speaker 3: two attempts in the life of President Trump had been made.
Speaker 3: He emphasized that making the letter public seem to serve
Speaker 3: no purpose other than risking violence. The fact of the
Speaker 3: matter is that Rauth had a criminal record that prohibit
Speaker 3: him from own He was a felon, prohibit him from
Speaker 3: only firearms, and federal election records showed that Ralth had
Speaker 3: made donations exclusively to Democratic candidates. Okay, that's fine. Even
Speaker 3: though he's a felon, he can contribute to Democratic candidates.
Speaker 3: The issue, though, is why why was the letter introduced?
Speaker 3: Did they feel did the Justice Department feel that Ralth
Speaker 3: might have gotten bailed, you know, like one hundred dollars
Speaker 3: bail and see.
Speaker 2: You in the morning.
Speaker 3: No, No, they could not have thought that they could
Speaker 3: not have thought that. Now I will add in a
Speaker 3: story that is unfortunate and inappropriate. Apparently on Tuesday in Arizona,
Speaker 3: there were shots fired at Vice President Harris's campaign office
Speaker 3: in Arizona. The Legal Women Voters is responding this saying
Speaker 3: that this is a deeply concerning the League of Women
Speaker 3: Voters and equivocally condemns any form of political violence aimed
Speaker 3: at a candidate. And they had released statements in terms
Speaker 3: of the Biden or other the Trump shootings as well,
Speaker 3: and they had decried violence there. But the point is
Speaker 3: that any of these shootings, as Robert F. Kennedy, Senior
Speaker 3: Robert F. Kennedy said a long time ago, violence begets violence.
Speaker 3: So why would the Justice Department even introduce that letter
Speaker 3: keep it as evidence for trial? Okay, if they wanted
Speaker 3: to introduce it, you introduced it under seal, so the
Speaker 3: judge or the magistrate gets to read it realizes that
Speaker 3: this guy really wanted to do this. This is just
Speaker 3: not some guy who having to be walking by and
Speaker 3: with his gun and the Secret Service got freaked out
Speaker 3: and shot at him. So I want to hear from you.
Speaker 3: We are in a very dangerous period of time. I'm
Speaker 3: here the next six weeks, a little less than six weeks,
Speaker 3: and then whenever the election occurs, whoever wins. I don't
Speaker 3: know that everyone on either side would turn around and say, Okay,
Speaker 3: it's over. It's a good election. My candidate won, my
Speaker 3: candidate lost, but I'm going to uh support the winner.
Speaker 2: Whoever that might be.
Speaker 3: Or it'll be either assuming that neither one of them
Speaker 3: shot had again, Vice President Harris or Donald Trump love
Speaker 3: you to weigh in on this. I'm perplexed, and whenever
Speaker 3: I'm perplexed, I ask for your analysis. Six one, seven, two, five, four,
Speaker 3: ten thirty six one seven, nine three one ten thirty
Speaker 3: triple eight nine two nine ten thirty. I for the
Speaker 3: life of me cannot figure why why this ever came
Speaker 3: at this point. At this point, they could have held
Speaker 3: that letter in abeyance. They could have submitted it under
Speaker 3: seal uh it. Yeah, or they would have there would
Speaker 3: have been some fourier requests, but you easily, I think
Speaker 3: the government could have defended that.
Speaker 2: And then once the letter, once.
Speaker 3: This guy goes to trial, introduce the letter is evidence,
Speaker 3: give it to the other side his discovery. It's clearly
Speaker 3: going to be part of his trial. But this guy's
Speaker 3: not going to be tried for a year. It's as
Speaker 3: simple as that. By time he gets tried, most of
Speaker 3: us will have forgotten his name. Thank god joined the conversation.
Speaker 2: My name is Dan Ray. We'll be back right after this.
Speaker 1: Now, back to Dan Ray live from the Window World
Speaker 1: Night Side Studios on WBZ News Radio.
Speaker 3: I grew up and most of you grew up in
Speaker 3: an era of the Nixon Kennedy debate contest Lynton Johnson
Speaker 3: Barry Goldwater.
Speaker 2: In nineteen sixty eight.
Speaker 3: We were rocked after the assassination of President Kennedy, Martin
Speaker 3: Luther King, Robert F.
Speaker 2: Kennedy.
Speaker 3: I remember how the country felt at that time, the
Speaker 3: riots in Chicago. Never want to go back there, never
Speaker 3: want to go back there. But I feel this is
Speaker 3: a dangerous time. If you disagree with me and you
Speaker 3: think it's not a dangerous time, feel free to call.
Speaker 3: I want to know what you think, and I just
Speaker 3: the denunciations of stopping violence need to be stronger. In
Speaker 3: my opinion, they need to be PSA's Public service announcements
Speaker 3: by the President and by others, by Republican leaders saying
Speaker 3: this is insane, the actions of people who are going
Speaker 3: to shoot at any presidential candidate. It's insane and unacceptable
Speaker 3: in a democracy. We are not a Banana republic. Jerry
Speaker 3: is a Newton. Jerry, We're going to get us go
Speaker 3: on this hour. Thank you for calling in.
Speaker 4: Go right ahead, Hi, Dan, first time call it. Thank you,
Speaker 4: and you have a great show.
Speaker 2: Well let's give you a run of the clauses the
Speaker 2: first time.
Speaker 3: Follow. We've got a bunch of very callows this week.
Speaker 3: Thank you, Jerry. What are your thoughts on what's going
Speaker 3: on down there?
Speaker 4: I was speaking lawyers the wrong answer, and we need peace.
Speaker 4: We we're just all human beings. We have to start
Speaker 4: getting along. It's crazy. I don't understand it. But one
Speaker 4: thing I was just calling to correct you on was
Speaker 4: that the thing that happened in Arizona was not Kamala
Speaker 4: Harris's office. It was the whole Democratic Party for Arizona,
Speaker 4: all the people running. Okay, Well I don't know who
Speaker 4: they were shooting at.
Speaker 3: Well, they were. Someone was making a statement, would why
Speaker 3: would anybody shoot at a democratic state office or an
Speaker 3: office that was a presidential headquarters. The Legal Women Voters
Speaker 3: statement which came out yesterday said, and that's what I'm
Speaker 3: relying upon that the legal women voters of the United
Speaker 3: States and the legal women voters of Arizona issue the
Speaker 3: following statement on the shooting at presidential candidate Harris's campaign
Speaker 3: office in Arizona news of the shots fired and Vice
Speaker 3: President Harris's campaign office in Arizona on Tuesday night is
Speaker 3: deeply concerning the leg of women voters.
Speaker 2: Unequivocally.
Speaker 3: He condemns any form of political violence aimed at a candidate.
Speaker 3: And they they obviously when they say out a candidate
Speaker 3: doesn't matter whether it's Republican or Democrat. Look, oftentimes the
Speaker 3: presidential campaign headquarters in some of these states turns out
Speaker 3: to be the you know, the signage is there, and
Speaker 3: it turns out to be the headquarters of the state party,
Speaker 3: be it Republican or Democrats. So but but I take
Speaker 3: your your clarification, uh, and I appreciate it. But I
Speaker 3: think you'd agree with me that that whenever either a
Speaker 3: presidential candidate or parties headquarters are shot at, we need
Speaker 3: to condemn it, no matter whom it's who whom that
Speaker 3: violence is directed at.
Speaker 4: Totally agree with you, sir.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I appreciate you taking the time to call uh.
Speaker 3: And uh, I enjoy first time callers. What do you
Speaker 3: think is going on? Let me ask you the open
Speaker 3: ended question, Uh do you I mean this is this
Speaker 3: is a presidential candidate who has been shot, well, he's
Speaker 3: been shot at once, was actually hit once. And if
Speaker 3: this guy had not been seen by the Secret Service agent,
Speaker 3: he would have been about one hundred feet where I
Speaker 3: believe from where Trump would have been putting, and that
Speaker 3: that would have been probably the last putt he ever
Speaker 3: took on that or any golf.
Speaker 4: Course, right, I believe it. So I just I just
Speaker 4: think it's out of control. We need to get along.
Speaker 4: I don't care if you're a Democrat, Republican, independent, doesn't matter.
Speaker 4: It's we're all one nation, we're all one human being.
Speaker 4: We all need to get along.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 3: And I know it sounds like we're channeling rod You
Speaker 3: and I are channeling Rodney ging here, but it's true.
Speaker 2: And we all have our passions.
Speaker 3: We have our passions for politics, we have our passions
Speaker 3: for sports. We all have passions, but we don't end up.
Speaker 3: Every once in a while, you see a fight at
Speaker 3: a football game in the stands, and it'll be put
Speaker 3: on television and we'll be appalled by it. We'll say,
Speaker 3: you go to a football game. What if there's some
Speaker 3: people there with their kids going to their first you know,
Speaker 3: NFL or first college football game, and they have to
Speaker 3: see these morons who probably are all half in the bag,
Speaker 3: you know, throwing throwing punches at each other, you know,
Speaker 3: five rows in front of them, a five rows behind them.
Speaker 2: But when you take it, when you.
Speaker 3: Start shooting at presidential candidates, Democrat or Republican, it's gone
Speaker 3: to an entirely different level in my opinion at that point.
Speaker 2: Yes it has, Jerry. I appreciate you taking the time.
Speaker 2: Come on back soon.
Speaker 3: I'm looking forward to call number two from Jerry, and
Speaker 3: thank you for that clarification.
Speaker 2: You put a fine point on.
Speaker 3: The on on if I was mistaken, I always stand.
Speaker 3: I'm happy to be corrected. Thank you so much.
Speaker 2: Thank you Dan.
Speaker 4: Have a great night you.
Speaker 2: Two, and have a good weekend.
Speaker 3: It's only Thursday, so you can still have a good week.
Speaker 2: Thanks Jerry. Okay, okay, we got the nine thirty newscast.
Speaker 3: We'll take it about thirty seconds early if they're ready,
Speaker 3: Rob And when we get back, we're going to go
Speaker 3: to Steve and let me tell you I have some
Speaker 3: open phone lines. I want to see these phone lines
Speaker 3: light up. I have a guest at ten o'clock coming
Speaker 3: in who's going to be amazing. I mean, you talk
Speaker 3: about someone who's a prodigy. Way do you listen to
Speaker 3: this guest and you find out what he has accomplished
Speaker 3: in his young life. And he's written a biography and
Speaker 3: authorized by somewhat unauthorized biography of Donald Trump entitled Legal Gladiator.
Speaker 3: So we'll get to that at tent. If you want
Speaker 3: to talk about this, I would like to think that
Speaker 3: I would hear people from each side of the political isle,
Speaker 3: Democrat and Republican. And I don't know what side of
Speaker 3: the isle Jerry was on, but you could and you
Speaker 3: don't have to tell me. But I'd like to really
Speaker 3: hear from some Democrats and some Republicans in just condemning
Speaker 3: any violence against anyone who's running for political office in
Speaker 3: this country. We have a history in this country which
Speaker 3: is pretty sad. And whether you want to talk about
Speaker 3: the former mayor of San Francisco, George Moscone or Harvey Milk,
Speaker 3: a city councilor out there, whenever I fly into San Francisco,
Speaker 3: it's the Harvey Milk Airport, Robert Kennedy, Martin Luther King,
Speaker 3: John Kennedy, George Wallace, Ronald Reagan, he was shot the Pope.
Speaker 3: I mean, let's let your voices join this chorus tonight
Speaker 3: and maybe we can start I don't know, a bit
Speaker 3: of a bandwagon across the country. Maybe we can get
Speaker 3: talk shows of America unite. Whether you're a conservative talk
Speaker 3: show host, a liberal talk show host, or a straight
Speaker 3: down the middle moderate talk show host. Do you guys
Speaker 3: know I'm to the right of center. I think you
Speaker 3: know where I am politically. I'm honest with you. I'm
Speaker 3: not through with either one of these candidates, Okay, but
Speaker 3: no one should suffer harm for standing for public office
Speaker 3: in America, and I'd love to hear as many of
Speaker 3: you as possible join me in what I think is
Speaker 3: an overdue outcry. We'll be back right after this. You
Speaker 3: have the numbers. I'm not even going to repeat them.
Speaker 3: Back after this.
Speaker 2: It's night side with.
Speaker 1: Boston's News Radio, so.
Speaker 2: I don't in my line's lit up.
Speaker 3: I have calls, which we always have calls, but I
Speaker 3: thought this would be a night Well, they just all
Speaker 3: lit up.
Speaker 2: So we have all the lines are full. I'm gratified.
Speaker 3: I'm gratified because I want all of you who listen
Speaker 3: to Nightside, I want you to be passionate. I want
Speaker 3: you to support your candidate. I want you to call
Speaker 3: here and argue with people and all of that. But
Speaker 3: I want us to be unanimous in our condemnation of
Speaker 3: any political violence, because once political violence gets a foothold,
Speaker 3: there is this tip for tat back and forth reaction,
Speaker 3: and we very well could lose our country, in my opinion,
Speaker 3: and it has to stop. Steve is in Cambridge, Steve welcome.
Speaker 2: How are you, sir?
Speaker 3: Dan.
Speaker 5: I don't think you're gonna find anybody who's gonna say
Speaker 5: he approves of shooting at political cadates, So I will
Speaker 5: join that chorus. I don't, but I'm curious, Like, for example,
Speaker 5: Bill Barr, I mean, the question he asks almost leads
Speaker 5: to the next question is are the Democrats encouraging violence?
Speaker 3: Well, I would say this, and I want to try
Speaker 3: to answer that question. Honestly, I hope that they're not
Speaker 3: encouraging violence. But it seems to me absurd. It seems
Speaker 3: to me absurd that the US Attorney didn't approach the
Speaker 3: defense counsel. Maybe before the trial, before the veil hearing,
Speaker 3: and say, look, we've uncovered some evidence which we're going
Speaker 3: to eventually give you, and I'll be happy to give
Speaker 3: you this letter now, so you know that I'm going
Speaker 3: to refer to it, but I'm going to ask that
Speaker 3: the judge that the magistrate keep it under seal, because
Speaker 3: to release this letter at this time and with this
Speaker 3: guy is saying I failed my mission, like he was
Speaker 3: sent there by somebody. And now if you can pick up,
Speaker 3: you know, the banner or whatever he was alluding to,
Speaker 3: I'll give you one hundred and fifty thousand dollars.
Speaker 2: The guy's a.
Speaker 3: Looney tune, but looney tunes connect with other looney tunes.
Speaker 3: It seems gratuitous. Did they really need that letter publicly
Speaker 3: offered in order to make sure he didn't get skip
Speaker 3: out on bail?
Speaker 5: Well, I'm curious if Bill Barr asked that question. Was
Speaker 5: that question publicized to the point where perhaps the is
Speaker 5: it the district attorney?
Speaker 3: No, it was a dog Department of Justice, federal crime.
Speaker 3: This was not a state prosecutor.
Speaker 5: This right they have. They responded to Bill Barr's question
Speaker 5: and say, in retrospect it was foolish.
Speaker 3: Are not responded. Interesting, No, there's been no public response to.
Speaker 3: The only paper of record that seemed that I could
Speaker 3: find talked about.
Speaker 2: It is the New York Post. I haven't seen it
Speaker 2: in the time.
Speaker 5: And Bill Barr, Where did Bill Barr? Do you know
Speaker 5: where Bill Barr posed this question?
Speaker 3: I believe I believe that he was interviewed by the
Speaker 3: New York Post from a first reading between the lines,
Speaker 3: because it's the only place there was some other, you know,
Speaker 3: small little I wouldn't even call the.
Speaker 2: Media because media is plural for medium.
Speaker 3: Uh and as if you know, like this little podcast
Speaker 3: or this whatever. This should be a story, and this
Speaker 3: should be a question that should be asked on the
Speaker 3: editorial page as the golal it should be, it should
Speaker 3: be on the New York Times, it should be on
Speaker 3: the evening newscasts, because it's serious. It's a serious question.
Speaker 3: How can you be that stupid? And I would address
Speaker 3: the magistrate. The magistrate should have said, you know ahead
Speaker 3: of time, Look, we're not going to admit this because
Speaker 3: this is almost a call to arms. I failed in
Speaker 3: my mission.
Speaker 5: Well, certainly, the red Eric. Let's let's put away for
Speaker 5: a moment. Donald Trump's rhetoric. But the rhetoric that the
Speaker 5: Democrats have been using against Donald Trump, that he's a fascist.
Speaker 5: I mean that you know that he will destroy our democracy. Uh,
Speaker 5: certainly you can't get much more inflammatory than that. I mean,
Speaker 5: the next step would be to say, we must remove
Speaker 5: this person. I mean that's the next step that Joe
Speaker 5: Joe Biden and Kamala Harris have said that Trump is
Speaker 5: such a danger that their next step would only be violence.
Speaker 2: No, you present it really well. But obviously.
Speaker 3: There's ways to I mean, obviously he's been charged with
Speaker 3: he's been convicted in New York on some some some felonies.
Speaker 3: He's charged with more serious felonies in the federal courts.
Speaker 3: So yeah, But what I'm trying to say is for
Speaker 3: them to say, Okay, this is a good idea in
Speaker 3: order to convince the magistrate that this guy we need
Speaker 3: to keep him. We're not going to give him any bail.
Speaker 3: This was an assassination attempt on Donald Trump. But I failed,
Speaker 3: you said the letter. I tried my best. I gave
Speaker 3: it all the gumption I could muster. It's almost like
Speaker 3: some knucklehead's going to say, well, this poor guy, you know,
Speaker 3: it's up to you now to finish the job, and
Speaker 3: I will offer one hundred and fifty.
Speaker 2: He could have set it offered five gazillion dollars. He
Speaker 2: couldn't give somebody fifteen cents at this point. So the
Speaker 2: letter should.
Speaker 3: Be part of the trial when it happens a year
Speaker 3: from now. It did not need it was not necessary
Speaker 3: to introduce it at a bail hearing.
Speaker 5: Well, Dan, I also worry that if Donald Trump wins,
Speaker 5: and I believe I'm going to vote for him with
Speaker 5: all his many, many many flaws. I mean, don't you
Speaker 5: think they will like the Democrat that's tacitly supported all
Speaker 5: of that rioting in Portland and Minnesota and even here
Speaker 5: in Boston. Don't you think there's a very grave danger
Speaker 5: that we will see rioting throughout the country and that
Speaker 5: the Democrats will kind of they won't necessarily come out
Speaker 5: and support it, but they tacitly they might.
Speaker 2: Well, I mean, look, the record is pretty clear.
Speaker 3: Kamala Harris supported the Minnesota bail fund, and that pretty
Speaker 3: much was intended to bail out people who engaged in
Speaker 3: some arson activity.
Speaker 5: And and Mora heally said you have to burn as
Speaker 5: far as for it to grow again.
Speaker 3: Yeah, she retracted that statement, but it was a dumb
Speaker 3: statement to make initially, but she at least had the
Speaker 3: integrity to retract the statement. I do I fear, I
Speaker 3: really do fear not what happens on November fifth, because
Speaker 3: whatever happens on fifth, all of us should have bie
Speaker 3: by the decision. But I fear that no matter what happens,
Speaker 3: whether it's Harris Trump or whether we wake up on
Speaker 3: November sixth and we have still have known. I remember
Speaker 3: that George Bush John Kerry fight went on for a
Speaker 3: few days.
Speaker 2: George Bush.
Speaker 5: That was George Bush carry Gore.
Speaker 3: Yeah, well, well no, let me tell you the Carrie
Speaker 3: took a couple of days because Ohio was very close
Speaker 3: in that rig. I see, yeah, so it wasn't like
Speaker 3: John and John Carry had a right to hold out
Speaker 3: for a few days, okay, until he was convinced that
Speaker 3: there was no way that he could win in Ohio,
Speaker 3: because if if he had carried Ohio, he would have
Speaker 3: had he would have won. George Bush won two elections
Speaker 3: by the skin of his teeth, George W. Bush Junior
Speaker 3: or whatever, forty three. But yeah, I'm terrified as to
Speaker 3: what's going to happen.
Speaker 2: On November sixth.
Speaker 5: If you know, I know that al Gore made a
Speaker 5: very graceful Uh.
Speaker 2: Yes he did.
Speaker 5: Yep, you know, the rule of law. And unlike the
Speaker 5: current Democrats, even though he said he disagreed with the
Speaker 5: Supreme Court, he didn't impugne their character or their motives.
Speaker 5: Which the attacks upon the Supreme Court recently by Democrats
Speaker 5: in the New York Times, etc. Is that's really when
Speaker 5: you talk about undermining our democracy, attacking the Supreme Court
Speaker 5: in that way, I can't think of a more dangerous
Speaker 5: way to do it.
Speaker 2: So those are such great points, Steve.
Speaker 3: You always bring great points to the table, and I
Speaker 3: think today that does even talk about in some of
Speaker 3: the Democratic members of the Senate we need to increase
Speaker 3: the court by six six votes.
Speaker 5: So oh my god, Dan, please, I don't have enough
Speaker 5: to worry about.
Speaker 2: Yeah, no, I know.
Speaker 3: All I was saying is I hope all of us
Speaker 3: realize that the country that we live in and the
Speaker 3: country that we're going to pass on to our children
Speaker 3: needs to withstand whatever the result.
Speaker 2: Is on November fifth.
Speaker 3: Let us hope we can wake up and the country
Speaker 3: will not be in flames on November sixth, whoever wins, because.
Speaker 5: You you do a pretty good job of kind of
Speaker 5: keeping a lid on things. You have strong opinions, but
Speaker 5: you at the same time keep everything gentlemanlike and peaceful.
Speaker 3: Well, I just hope that we have enough personal integrity
Speaker 3: to realize that that the four years whoever gets elected
Speaker 3: as forty seven, that will pass.
Speaker 2: I mean it be. It will be over before you
Speaker 2: know it, and we'll be moving on to another election.
Speaker 2: That's what's great about the country.
Speaker 3: You know, when Ronald Reagan got elected, the Democrats were horrified,
Speaker 3: and when George Bush was defeated by Bill Clinton, the
Speaker 3: Republicans were gassed. But guess what, we lived. The sun
Speaker 3: came up the next morning and there was no outrageous
Speaker 3: riots in the street. But I'm very concerned what's going
Speaker 3: to happen when November fifth is finally decided and we
Speaker 3: all you know, now the crazies on the right and
Speaker 3: the crazies on the on the left, the cuckoo birds,
Speaker 3: you know, the the Alex Jones types, and the wackle
Speaker 3: progressives of the Democratic Party, they will try to stir
Speaker 3: it up.
Speaker 2: Let me tell you again, you.
Speaker 5: Know what what disappoints me is, Yes, I'm disturbed by
Speaker 5: the rhetoric on the right. But when I look at
Speaker 5: a paper like The New York Times, which has such
Speaker 5: prestige and whose columnists have such a big pulpit, and
Speaker 5: they use such degrading rhetoric to talk about their political opponents,
Speaker 5: namely Republicans, I mean, they're stooping to such a low level.
Speaker 5: It's it's very disappointing.
Speaker 2: Well, let's hope that we can comment down.
Speaker 3: I got to break your calls are always amongst the
Speaker 3: best and thoughtful calls. Obviously, let's let's try to keep
Speaker 3: a lid on it. It's as simple as that. Thanks
Speaker 3: so much, David.
Speaker 2: Thanks.
Speaker 3: I wish everybody listened to the to the sub of
Speaker 3: Steve's call, whether you are a Republican or a Democrat.
Speaker 3: We'll be back on nightside, and well we'll get everybody in.
Speaker 3: I got Kathy Patrick and Terry down in the Cape.
Speaker 3: You will get in and we are going to change
Speaker 3: topics at ten o'clock. So, as far as I'm concerned,
Speaker 3: those of you who haven't lined up already, don't even bother. Well,
Speaker 3: I'll deal with Kathy, Patrick and Terry and I'll give
Speaker 3: them all the time they need back on Nightside after this.
Speaker 1: Now back to Dan Ray live from the Window World
Speaker 1: nights Side Studios. I'm WBZ News Radio.
Speaker 3: Okay, let's get back to the call. I'm going to
Speaker 3: go to Kathy and Somerville. Kathy, appreciate your calling you
Speaker 3: next time Nightside, go right ahead.
Speaker 6: Hi, how are you? I'm just very confused.
Speaker 2: Sure?
Speaker 7: How did this letter?
Speaker 6: He wrote it two or three days before correct.
Speaker 2: We don't know when he wrote it. I don't know
Speaker 2: that it was dated. But it was turned over to
Speaker 2: the authorities because he had left it with a friend
Speaker 2: I think a few months ago, actually, is what the friend.
Speaker 6: Okay, so he knew ahead of time he was going
Speaker 6: to fail and he'd be around ast test well.
Speaker 3: He wrote a letter I think, which in case he failed.
Speaker 3: When you when you read what he wrote, he said,
Speaker 3: this was an assassination attempt on Donald Trump.
Speaker 2: But I failed you.
Speaker 3: I used my bad, I tried my best and gave
Speaker 3: it all my effort that I could.
Speaker 2: It is now up to you to finish the job.
Speaker 6: That's why when I first heard about it, I thought
Speaker 6: that he had written it in the jail cell. Problem.
Speaker 3: No, no, no, no, he wrote it several It sounds like
Speaker 3: he wrote it several months ago and dropped it off
Speaker 3: the precise timeline I don't have, but no, it was.
Speaker 2: It was a letter that he left, you know.
Speaker 3: You know, it's almost like somebody reads a suicide leaves
Speaker 3: a suicide note and says, you know, I'm sorry I
Speaker 3: did this, but I just couldn't stand the pressures of
Speaker 3: the world.
Speaker 2: I hope you'll forgive me.
Speaker 6: But you know, I wonder if there was another letter
Speaker 6: to turn in if he didn't sail.
Speaker 3: I don't know that, But whatever, the contents of the
Speaker 3: box were handed over in its entirety of the government.
Speaker 3: My issue is why the government released that. Why did
Speaker 3: the government allow that to get out?
Speaker 5: Exactly?
Speaker 6: It's crazy.
Speaker 3: There's a few there's a lot of looney tunes out
Speaker 3: there on on on both.
Speaker 2: Far ends of the political spectrum.
Speaker 3: Yeah, Democrats, the crazy right wing Republicans and the crazy
Speaker 3: progressive Democrats.
Speaker 2: So, Kathy, hope that's closing up for you a little bit.
Speaker 6: Okay, thank you, have a good one.
Speaker 3: Thank you too, Kathy. I appreciate your call. Let me
Speaker 3: go next to two more calls. You're gonna go to
Speaker 3: my friend Patrick down in the district of Columbia, where everything,
Speaker 3: everything seems to happen these days.
Speaker 2: Hey Patrick, welcome my friend.
Speaker 7: Yes, sir, I know, I jokingly call it the city
Speaker 7: that cannot leave the country alone.
Speaker 2: That's a good, that's a good. Let me tell you.
Speaker 2: I would love it if Washington left us alone. But
Speaker 2: that's not gonna do.
Speaker 7: What could you ever imagine? I got my own in
Speaker 7: the clock here? Okay, but could you ever imagine back
Speaker 7: in the days and nasty policy chuck humor, they look
Speaker 7: at the cart and says, you know, hey, gig, Chuck,
Speaker 7: it's you know, it's it's just it's only twelve thirty.
Speaker 6: Now.
Speaker 7: I think we've given the country a lot, you know,
Speaker 7: and you probably hear chuck though, No, man, we can
Speaker 7: go at four o'clock. You know, let's keep on them,
Speaker 7: you know, let's just let's keep throwing up the good one.
Speaker 2: What do you think about that?
Speaker 3: What I think about this letter being entered into evidence
Speaker 3: and released to the public.
Speaker 7: Bert to tell the truth? I don't think they should
Speaker 7: have told anybody about what the nut was doing. I
Speaker 7: should think that they would. The Secret Service should have
Speaker 7: lived up to their name, the Secret Service, and kept
Speaker 7: it a secret.
Speaker 2: Well, they.
Speaker 3: Once they arrested him, there was a public spectacle. They
Speaker 3: could have said, this is the guy we arrested. He's
Speaker 3: fifty eight years old, he's got a criminal background, and
Speaker 3: at the same time he's been flying around the world
Speaker 3: trying to garner support for the Ukrainian.
Speaker 2: Army, which you know.
Speaker 3: To me, where's his money coming from? I don't need
Speaker 3: to know what his stupid letter said.
Speaker 2: Put that.
Speaker 3: Put that in a trial. If you feel you don't
Speaker 3: have enough to convict me.
Speaker 7: Yes, I do not believe. I do not agree with that.
Speaker 7: Release at all. Give of this nut extra ammunition for
Speaker 7: his cause, period. Just help fund his cause. When you
Speaker 7: say where does the money come from? Yeah, I disagree
Speaker 7: with that. That should have kept sealed. And any time
Speaker 7: you give these people a platform, they love it.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 3: Yeah, That's why I don't even mention the name of
Speaker 3: the Boston bomber. I mean, I just think that forget
Speaker 3: about it, forget about it. It's as simple as that.
Speaker 2: Yes, way, New York's the city that never sleeps. I
Speaker 2: don't know, we got to come up with a name
Speaker 2: from Washington, d C. The city that never stops.
Speaker 7: Bothering, the city that cannot leave the country alone.
Speaker 2: Yes, I'll take that for now. We'll work on it.
Speaker 2: Thanks Patrick, you got it. Talk to you soon.
Speaker 3: Let me get Terry down on. Okay, call it Terry,
Speaker 3: welcome back. You are the last call of the hour.
Speaker 3: You got the final word. Go ahead, Terry.
Speaker 8: Hi, Dan. I'll tell you I'm deeply concerned and puzzled
Speaker 8: with the actions to the Secret Service. Cannot believe that
Speaker 8: this creep was hanging around in the bushes for twelve
Speaker 8: hours that mister Trump's golf course and they did not
Speaker 8: ever search the perimeter, and they admitted it.
Speaker 4: They said that.
Speaker 8: And this is Please correct me if I'm not saying
Speaker 8: it right, because I don't want to give misinformation here.
Speaker 8: I heard that they were treating him like a private
Speaker 8: citizen post president coverage, and he's already had an assassination
Speaker 8: attempt and they didn't ramp it up. No, no, no, no,
Speaker 8: there is something major wrong here. Somebody has got to
Speaker 8: get control of this whole situation. I commend President Biden
Speaker 8: for executives ordering more sponges to them, but somebody's got
Speaker 8: to see who's that charge here.
Speaker 7: By the way, I think I.
Speaker 3: Know from previous calls, you're not a fan of Donald Trump,
Speaker 3: but it has this.
Speaker 8: I am not but I do not want anything.
Speaker 3: Absolutely you you are the sort of person who really
Speaker 3: this country needs people on both sides of the political spectrum.
Speaker 3: If this had happened to Vice President Harris, I would
Speaker 3: be just as concerned.
Speaker 8: Absolutely absolutely, every single one of them have to be.
Speaker 3: Protected as much as humanly possible. Terry, I got to run.
Speaker 3: That's what Rob tells me. And he's the boss.
Speaker 2: So I'll see you soon. Okay.
Speaker 8: I'm a wonderful night, Dan.
Speaker 6: Bye bye, all right, by Terry.
Speaker 3: When we get back, I'm going to talk to a
Speaker 3: young man who has written an extraordinary book.
Speaker 2: You way, do you hear? Story? Just stay with us
Speaker 2: back after the ten