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<v Speaker 1>Hello, and welcome to Reality TV Crum, the world famous podcast.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm Delia, I'm one of your co hosts, and I'm

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<v Speaker 1>here with my real tight homegirl and my daughter in law,

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<v Speaker 1>the Beauty US Beach. That's me double b Baby. We

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<v Speaker 1>are here to talk, sister web hoody. We're currently in

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<v Speaker 1>a rewind phase of the pod. We're in season nine,

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<v Speaker 1>which is a very eventful season. And before we get

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<v Speaker 1>into our recap, we do want to issue you a disclaimer. Please,

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<v Speaker 1>you better hide your wife and you better hide those kids.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't belong in a dumpster. What are you doing now?

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<v Speaker 1>We're in a reverend podcast, obviously, we are just here

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<v Speaker 1>to have a little bit of fun. So we sprinkle

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<v Speaker 1>in some ball garrityes, some bad opinions, and if.

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<v Speaker 2>You're a foo, get out of your honey boo booth.

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<v Speaker 1>But if you're ready to take a trip to Gelstone,

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<v Speaker 1>Texas with Cody and Christine Brown, then welcome to this dumpster.

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<v Speaker 2>Allegedly, and so thank you in helly think you wo.

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<v Speaker 1>Now, before we get into this somewhat iconic yeah, in

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<v Speaker 1>terms of the lore of the Sister Wives universe, I

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<v Speaker 1>do want to ask you if you have any takeaways,

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<v Speaker 1>Like what are your thoughts? Beatrice?

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<v Speaker 2>Oh my god, rewatching this episode.

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<v Speaker 1>Is so depress it.

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<v Speaker 2>It is like it's iconic, yes, because it is the

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<v Speaker 2>infamous Galveston Anniversary slash couple's therapy trip, but it's like

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<v Speaker 2>also super sad on behalf of Christine because she's obviously

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<v Speaker 2>there to like work on her marriage. Meanwhile, Cody is

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<v Speaker 2>just there to like rehab their image a little bit

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<v Speaker 2>and be like yeah, I know, like we're doing great

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<v Speaker 2>and like we're working on it. It's fine, and let

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<v Speaker 2>me talk to my lesbian lover Pat.

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<v Speaker 1>Like it's coordinated so strangely because I guess Pat lives

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<v Speaker 1>in Galveston, and so they want to meet with Pat,

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<v Speaker 1>and they also want to take their therapist, Nancy, and

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<v Speaker 1>they want a couple intense couples therapy with their tour

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<v Speaker 1>of Galveston.

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<v Speaker 2>Yikes.

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<v Speaker 1>So my take way is Galveston. I know a lot

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<v Speaker 1>of people love Galveston, and I have a really good

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<v Speaker 1>friend who lives near Galveston. I've been to Galveston once,

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<v Speaker 1>me too. Look did you see those beaches? Though?

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<v Speaker 2>Girl?

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<v Speaker 1>Like, if I want to do a little holiday with

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<v Speaker 1>my baby, I want to go where like the ocean

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<v Speaker 1>is a turquoise blue yeah, and the sand is white

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<v Speaker 1>like and clean. I'm worried about getting a staff infection

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<v Speaker 1>or like walking on a needle in Galveston, it did

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<v Speaker 1>not look great.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, you didn't want to go to the pirate museum?

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<v Speaker 1>No, that whole segment. I was like, if my husband ever,

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<v Speaker 1>oh my God, took me on a date to a

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<v Speaker 1>pirate I would just turn around and walk the fuck out.

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<v Speaker 1>I'll be like, I'll see you at the bar. I

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<v Speaker 1>see you at the bar. I don't want any of

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<v Speaker 1>that business.

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<v Speaker 2>No, yep, I agree.

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<v Speaker 1>So without any further ado, let's get into our recap

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<v Speaker 1>of Ceason nine, episode.

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<v Speaker 2>Three three and marriage counseling Texas style.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, big yikes.

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<v Speaker 2>But before we even get to that, we start off

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<v Speaker 2>the episode at Robin's house again because she's looking for paperwork,

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<v Speaker 2>her divorce papers and everything to bring to the lawyer's

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<v Speaker 2>office because we're still rustling about with the adoption process.

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<v Speaker 2>And now we're heading over to their lawyer's office in

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<v Speaker 2>Nevada who helped Mary get her legal divorce, and we

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<v Speaker 2>have a bit of a discussion about the adoption. I

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<v Speaker 2>guess they tried to file for it in Montana, and

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<v Speaker 2>the judge there was like, why are you filing out here?

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<v Speaker 2>Obviously you guys live in Nevada. File it there. And

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<v Speaker 2>you know, Robin's really worried because she wants to make

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<v Speaker 2>sure that the process is as easy as possible for Preston.

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<v Speaker 2>So that's why they wanted to do it in mon

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<v Speaker 2>And they also said they wanted to do it in

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<v Speaker 2>very sympathetic to polygamists. Because there's a big, bustling polygamist

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<v Speaker 1>So I just call cap on all of that. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>I think they really want it in Nevada. I think

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<v Speaker 1>they'll know that they'll have the home court advantage. It'll

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<v Speaker 1>be much more difficult, as we discussed last week, for

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<v Speaker 1>Preston to show up for court hearings, to hire a lawyer.

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<v Speaker 1>It's probably more expensive for the lawyer itself. I don't know,

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<v Speaker 1>but there's probably prohibitions for president if it's in Nevada.

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<v Speaker 1>So I think the plan all along was for Nevada.

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<v Speaker 1>And there's all just performance, especially on the couch. Oh

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<v Speaker 1>when Robin, who's recounting this whole saga, starts to hyperventilate

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<v Speaker 1>or something, girl and has to walk off because she's

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<v Speaker 1>still upset about us.

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<v Speaker 2>She's so stressed out. Okay, get out of here, dude.

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<v Speaker 2>I feel like this whole thing, I agree, is totally

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<v Speaker 2>for the cameras, and even the fact that they're filming

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<v Speaker 2>this kind of stuff, like when it's a very like

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<v Speaker 2>private intimate thing like adoption is a big deal, and

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<v Speaker 2>you're also taking the rights away from their biological father, Like,

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<v Speaker 2>why are we putting all of this on TV in

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<v Speaker 2>the first place? Are we really that desperate for content?

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<v Speaker 2>The answer is yes, but yeah. So when they're at

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<v Speaker 2>the lawyer's office, they're talking about it, and the Nevada

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<v Speaker 2>lawyers like, yeah, we can get this done, like next week,

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<v Speaker 2>we can adopt the kids next week, as long as

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<v Speaker 2>we get all the paperwork and stuff, as.

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<v Speaker 1>Long as you can serve Preston and as long as

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<v Speaker 1>he agrees to relinquish his parental rights. The lawyer for

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<v Speaker 1>the Browns said something about, well, if he doesn't appear, Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>if he doesn't answer, then the judge will determine that

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<v Speaker 1>he's a negligent father. Yeah, but that's not the same

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<v Speaker 1>thing as stripping his rights away.

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<v Speaker 2>So yeah, I don't really know how it works, because

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<v Speaker 2>they did bring up the negligence. They also brought up

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<v Speaker 2>like if he's avoiding this, he will also be considered

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<v Speaker 2>to abandon his kids. And so maybe there's some like

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<v Speaker 2>legal way around this to say you abandoned your children,

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<v Speaker 2>so we're going to take your rights away.

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<v Speaker 1>And well, I'm certainly not a raccoon lawyer. I just

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<v Speaker 1>think that it would be so much easier obviously if

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<v Speaker 1>Preston would agree for sure, And so they are incentivizing

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<v Speaker 1>him behind the scenes by again saying that they will

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<v Speaker 1>forgive his interrears, child support yep, and any of the

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<v Speaker 1>medical bills that he owes for again probably around dayton,

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<v Speaker 1>et cetera. So depending on what Preston's financial situation is,

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<v Speaker 1>that might be like a really big deal. Yeah, and

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<v Speaker 1>we know that he ultimately agrees, and so that's how

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<v Speaker 2>Him, yeah, because right now they're saying he's avoiding calls,

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<v Speaker 2>he's avoiding being served, but ultimately he ends up agreeing

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<v Speaker 2>to it. And then Robin makes a comment on the

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<v Speaker 2>couch saying, you know, I've been trying really hard to

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<v Speaker 2>let Preston know that we're not trying to take his

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<v Speaker 2>rights away and that we're not trying to take visitation

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<v Speaker 2>from the kids. But I'm just like, Okay, what do

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<v Speaker 2>you mean. I don't know. This whole thing is super

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<v Speaker 2>messed up and very shady. And it goes back to

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<v Speaker 2>what you were saying last week about maybe Robin's ulterior

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<v Speaker 2>motive here is protecting her crown and protecting her empire

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<v Speaker 2>and all of her finances and stuff and I'm just like, okay,

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<v Speaker 2>but taking the rights away from the kids's biological father

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<v Speaker 2>is the way you're going.

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<v Speaker 1>To do it, all right, that's a nuclear option.

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<v Speaker 2>And it's messed up because she's weaponizing the kids with

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<v Speaker 2>like the family, and so of course all of the family,

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<v Speaker 2>the Browns, they're like super supportive of the adoption and

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<v Speaker 2>they're really excited about it. And ultimately when we get

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<v Speaker 2>to the adoption episode, it's like a big fucking celebration

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<v Speaker 2>and everybody goes to the courtroom to watch the adoption.

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<v Speaker 2>So it's like a really big dill and it's unfortunate

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<v Speaker 2>that it's being televised and it's being manipulated in this way.

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<v Speaker 1>For ken use, imagine what Preston must have fought watching

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<v Speaker 1>this back or just seeing how his kids are so happy, yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>like jubil into the fact that Cody is adopting them,

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<v Speaker 1>Like how crushing that would be if he has some

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<v Speaker 1>semblance of love and like a sense of responsibility for

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<v Speaker 1>his children, like that would be just absolutely devastating. But again,

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<v Speaker 1>we don't know the quality and the character of Preston.

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<v Speaker 1>He might have been an abuser. But like when you

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<v Speaker 1>see the Robin that we know in twenty twenty six, Like,

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<v Speaker 1>I just don't believe anything that she says about anything.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, and if he is this abusive person, why are

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<v Speaker 2>you trying to make it easy on him to get

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<v Speaker 2>the adoption? And why are you trying to convince him, No,

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<v Speaker 2>this doesn't affect your visitation, Like you can still visit

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<v Speaker 2>the kids. We're just going to have all of the

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<v Speaker 2>legal rights to them. Like why are you doing all

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<v Speaker 2>of this and why are you making it such a

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<v Speaker 2>big deal on TV to be like no, like we're

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<v Speaker 2>being really nice. We want to make it good for

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<v Speaker 2>him and want to make it easy and it's actually

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<v Speaker 2>a really good thing for him, and blah blah blah,

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<v Speaker 2>Like it doesn't make any sense to me. I just

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<v Speaker 2>don't get it. And so after this whole adoption segment,

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<v Speaker 2>then we get into the media of the episode where

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<v Speaker 2>we have Christine and Cody leaving for Galveston. They are

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<v Speaker 2>going for their twenty first anniversary, although Cody messes it

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<v Speaker 2>up and thinks that it's their twenty second because he

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<v Speaker 2>you know, he doesn't pay attention because he doesn't care

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<v Speaker 2>or love Christine, So it's their anniversary. They're bringing their

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<v Speaker 2>couples therapist Nancy or their family therapist Nancy, who's gonna

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<v Speaker 2>help them with that. And they're also going to visit

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<v Speaker 2>their ex therapist and also friend Pat who counseled them

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<v Speaker 2>when they were in Utah. And Cody is basically in

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<v Speaker 2>love with her. He says he's platonically in love with

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<v Speaker 2>her because she has the gift of validation.

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<v Speaker 1>Isn't that so telling? Yep, he loves her because she

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<v Speaker 1>validated him and basically agreed with him and his positions

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<v Speaker 1>during counseling.

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<v Speaker 2>And I'm just like, why are we going to see

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<v Speaker 2>her if you're going to bring your their therapist. They

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<v Speaker 2>talk about how Pat was really good with validation, but

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<v Speaker 2>Nancy is really good with accountability, Like someone, why are

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<v Speaker 2>your bringing her?

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know.

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<v Speaker 2>It just seems like he doesn't want to be accountable

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<v Speaker 2>for anything, of course not.

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<v Speaker 1>But I also think this is absolutely done for content.

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<v Speaker 1>I think this is manufactured. I think Christine is showing

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<v Speaker 1>up in good faith, yeah, really wanting to work on

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<v Speaker 1>her relationship. You can really see the cracks in this

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<v Speaker 1>episode and in this season, and of course we've been

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<v Speaker 1>seeing the cracks since season one. Like Christine has been

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<v Speaker 1>unhappy for a while, but like you can really I

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<v Speaker 1>get the feeling that she's desperate here to do something.

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<v Speaker 1>And she lets it be known that there's been no

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<v Speaker 1>intimacy with her and Cody, and I'm probably jumping ahead,

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<v Speaker 1>and I'm sorry if I am, but like that's important

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<v Speaker 1>for her, like uh huh. They are growing farther and

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<v Speaker 1>farther apart and there's no intimacy. Would Cody tries to

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<v Speaker 1>attach to trust, Yeah, the issue of trust, and he's saying, well,

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<v Speaker 1>I don't trust you though, because you don't love Robin.

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<v Speaker 1>Essentially you don't love the other sister wives, which means

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<v Speaker 1>because you don't that equals you don't support and love

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<v Speaker 1>I can't trust you. And if I can't trust you,

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<v Speaker 1>And Christine here is just flailing trying to figure out, Okay, well,

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<v Speaker 1>how can I reconnect and build that emotional connection, like

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<v Speaker 1>how can I get the intimacy back? And this is

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<v Speaker 1>where trust becomes kind of the hallmark of this entire episode,

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<v Speaker 1>And it's really sad because she wants to fix it,

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<v Speaker 1>and she's going to do whatever she can and Cody's

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<v Speaker 1>just there to make content and grandstand. He there's nothing

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<v Speaker 1>in Cody that screams he actually wants to build back

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<v Speaker 1>trust or whatever, like he doesn't.

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<v Speaker 2>Want to have sex with Christine anymore. Like that's just

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<v Speaker 2>the point blank what it is. I mean, he's already

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<v Speaker 2>said at this point that he's not attracted to her

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<v Speaker 2>and that he was repulsed by her with the nachos

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<v Speaker 2>and everything, and so it's like, you know, he's been

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<v Speaker 2>done with her, and poor Christine really is there to

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<v Speaker 2>try and save this. But she does say, like in

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<v Speaker 2>one of her talking heads in this episode, like I'm

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<v Speaker 2>at the point where every single day is hard, Like

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<v Speaker 2>every day is a struggle. I am miserable, and you

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<v Speaker 2>can see it. I Mean, I'm not trying to like

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<v Speaker 2>dog on her appearance or anything, but she looks tired,

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<v Speaker 2>she looks sad. She's not really taking care of herself,

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<v Speaker 2>and it's because her marriage is fucking awful.

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<v Speaker 1>And let's reconcile this with her book, because in her

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<v Speaker 1>book she talks about a period of time and I

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<v Speaker 1>want to say it's in the cul de Sac where

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<v Speaker 1>she sustains some kind of an injury, right because she's

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<v Speaker 1>on a fitness journey, she injures herself and she starts

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<v Speaker 1>to take opiates. Yeah, she gets addicted to opiates, and

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<v Speaker 1>she's also drinking, and at some point Maddie is the

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<v Speaker 1>one who calls her out. So you saying that she

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<v Speaker 1>looks tired, she looks strange, she looks a little bit different.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm wondering if this is the timeline that Christine was

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<v Speaker 1>talking about in her book. And by the way, on

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<v Speaker 1>Patreon we dive into that whole book. I think we

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<v Speaker 1>have very endure, separate episodes where we go through everything

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<v Speaker 1>with a fine tooth calm, and we have a lot

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<v Speaker 1>of fun. But it just made me feel really bad

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<v Speaker 1>because Cody doesn't love her at all. Cody only loves Robin.

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<v Speaker 1>He's not going to dick her down. He's not digging

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<v Speaker 1>Mary down. Maybe he's giving Janelle the d but it's

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<v Speaker 1>all about Robin.

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<v Speaker 2>One percent, and it's so obvious, and like you know,

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<v Speaker 2>we have these little couples therapy exercises throughout the episode.

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<v Speaker 2>The first one that they do with Nancy is their

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<v Speaker 2>drawing lines in the sand, and it's basically to be like,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, what, what is your line in the sand

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<v Speaker 2>in your marriage and your relationship? What do you guys want?

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<v Speaker 2>And they talk about drawing lines in conviction versus drawing

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<v Speaker 2>lines and anger, which kind of brings a light bulb

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<v Speaker 2>moment for Aris Christine being like, oh, I didn't even

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<v Speaker 2>think about that, because one of their lines of conviction

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<v Speaker 2>is like jealousy. You know, she's talked about a lot

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<v Speaker 2>being very jealous, being very insecure, especially when Robin came

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<v Speaker 2>into the picture, but this is a tenet of their faith.

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<v Speaker 1>She didn't actually say anything about Robin. And it was

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<v Speaker 1>interesting to me because when she's talking about how she

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<v Speaker 1>has been struggling so deeply with jealousy, first they show

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<v Speaker 1>a picture of Mary and Cody. Yeah, Then they show

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<v Speaker 1>a picture of Janelle and Cody, and then there's that

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<v Speaker 1>professional picture of Cody and Robin, Like, can we just

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<v Speaker 1>call it what it is? Like, she's jealous of Robin?

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<v Speaker 1>Why is she jealous of Robin? Because Robin gets everything

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<v Speaker 1>all of the time and all of Cody's attention. But

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<v Speaker 1>she can't say it as plainly as that. Yep, And

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<v Speaker 1>so we have to just deduce for ourselves.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, And I think at one point Christine does kind

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<v Speaker 2>of talk about how it's hard to like watch everybody

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<v Speaker 2>else have like a romantic relationship with Cody, her relationship

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<v Speaker 2>is suffering, But we all know she's really talking about

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<v Speaker 2>Robin because he's not really having any romantic relationships with

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<v Speaker 2>anybody else at this point, and it's just sad. And

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<v Speaker 2>so when they're drawing the lines in the sand, it

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<v Speaker 2>was interesting because Cody draws a line and says, my

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<v Speaker 2>line here is that I'm never going to leave you.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm never gonna end this. And that's true. He wasn't

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<v Speaker 2>planning on ending any of these marriages whatsoever, because he

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<v Speaker 2>wanted to keep everybody on the books and with the

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<v Speaker 2>finances and everything. He wanted to keep everybody on the

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<v Speaker 2>hook while he just had his own relationship with Robin.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, don't you think there was a larger plan to

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<v Speaker 1>estrange himself from them, alienate himself from them so that

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<v Speaker 1>they made the choice to leave him. It feels very

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<v Speaker 1>orchestrated to me. So he's not the one asking for

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<v Speaker 1>the divorce, and he can fall back and he can say, well,

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<v Speaker 1>y'all left me, I didn't leave you. But really, behind

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<v Speaker 1>the scenes, he was kind of puppet mastering it, or

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<v Speaker 1>Robin was.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, I could see that for sure, because I

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<v Speaker 2>can see him being the kind of guy that's like, well, yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>I did everything, and you guys are the ones that

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<v Speaker 2>left me. You're the one that gave up everything. But

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<v Speaker 2>I don't know, judging from his reaction to Christine leaving

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<v Speaker 2>him in season nineteen or whatever, it was like it

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<v Speaker 2>felt like to me he really wasn't expecting them to leave.

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<v Speaker 2>I feel like there was that ulterior motive on like

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<v Speaker 2>Robin's part, like yeah, let's get all these bitches to

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<v Speaker 2>break up with them or whatever. But I don't know.

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<v Speaker 2>It was just interesting to watch him in this episode

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<v Speaker 2>draw the line and be like, well, I'm never gonna

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<v Speaker 2>leave you though, and Christine's like, well, I agree, like

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<v Speaker 2>I want to leave you either, because ultimately they don't,

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<v Speaker 2>they don't want to break up, but their relationship is

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<v Speaker 2>trending towards that. And then we like have these scenes

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<v Speaker 2>where we go back to the og Wives and we

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<v Speaker 2>have Janelle at one point saying, you know, Cody doesn't

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<v Speaker 2>like therapy because it just feels like everybody's got a

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<v Speaker 2>laundry list against him. He's got a laundry list to

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<v Speaker 2>get against all of the wives too, But it feels

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<v Speaker 2>like way more when it's four against one versus one

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<v Speaker 2>against four. And Robin of course has to chime in

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<v Speaker 2>and be like, well, I feel for him.

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<v Speaker 1>It's really hard for him.

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<v Speaker 2>But you know, he chose this, so he's got to

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<v Speaker 2>deal with it. So it's interesting that Robin makes that comment.

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<v Speaker 2>And then you know, we have the little pirate exhibit,

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<v Speaker 2>which is embarrassing.

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<v Speaker 1>Cringe, Like, why are we going to a pirate exhibit?

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<v Speaker 1>We should be going to Prague. Yeah, we should be

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<v Speaker 1>going to the Caribbean. Yeah, to Saint Martin's or something.

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<v Speaker 1>You're taking me to Galvinson, to a pirate's museum so

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<v Speaker 1>that our tour guide simple can lead us around in

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<v Speaker 1>our pirate costume.

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<v Speaker 2>Like that's whack, dude. At least Mary got to go

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<v Speaker 2>to fucking Mexico, like I don't.

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<v Speaker 1>Know, well after she got her legal divorce, so she

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<v Speaker 1>went to Rainforest Cafe. I guess it's par for the course.

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<v Speaker 2>But you know, when they're at the Pirate ut, like

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<v Speaker 2>Christine makes a comment about how they've always had fun

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<v Speaker 2>together in their relationship, it's just, you know, hard to

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<v Speaker 2>focus on the fun times when every other time is

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<v Speaker 2>fucking awful and terrible. And you know, Cody makes fun

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<v Speaker 2>of Christine a few times in this episode, but he

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<v Speaker 2>talks about, you know, in the even in their fun times,

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<v Speaker 2>Christine is always griping at him about their relationship and

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<v Speaker 2>he makes fun of her for that, and Christine's just like, well, yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>Because it's falling apart, because it sucks due cause I'm lonely, yep,

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<v Speaker 1>because I want you sorry, I'm trying to bring it up.

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<v Speaker 2>God sue me. And then they have a little porch

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<v Speaker 2>therapy session with Nancy at their little BMB that they're at,

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<v Speaker 2>and this is where things get a little bit serious,

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<v Speaker 2>and this is where they talk about the intimacy, how

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<v Speaker 2>there is no intimacy because Cody doesn't trust her, and

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<v Speaker 2>Nancy's like, well, what does trust mean to you? He's like, well,

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<v Speaker 2>I need her to love the whole family. And we

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<v Speaker 2>hear from Christine on the couch saying, I don't know

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<v Speaker 2>why he thinks I don't love the whole family, Like

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<v Speaker 2>that doesn't make any sense to me. I do everything

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<v Speaker 2>that I can, like all I care about is the family.

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<v Speaker 2>But we learn that it's because at one point in

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<v Speaker 2>Lehigh or whatever, they had a big fight and Christine

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<v Speaker 2>had expressed something like I'm sick of the principle, or

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<v Speaker 2>like I can't deal with polygamy because I'm jealous and

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<v Speaker 2>I'm insecure and I'm upset about all of this shit.

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<v Speaker 2>And Cody took that as I don't want to be

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<v Speaker 2>a part of the family or I don't want to

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<v Speaker 2>do plural marriage anymore, right, And he has held on

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<v Speaker 2>to that and resented her for that this entire time.

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<v Speaker 1>Which is so wild to me that you wouldn't make

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<v Speaker 1>accommodations spiritually and in your relationships for the women who

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<v Speaker 1>are bearing the brunt of polygamy. They're bearing the children,

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<v Speaker 1>they're often employed, they're taking care of the kids, they

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<v Speaker 1>are going without time with the husband, dealing with profound

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<v Speaker 1>levels of jealousy. So like, the burden of the woman

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<v Speaker 1>in polygamy is so incredible. Like the least a husband

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<v Speaker 1>can do is allow them to vent, allow them to

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<v Speaker 1>talk about it, reassure them love, give them more love,

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<v Speaker 1>whatever you need to do. But like Cody's like, yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>I don't like to hear my wives complain about polygamy

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<v Speaker 1>and their marriages. Yeah, I tune right out.

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<v Speaker 2>It's so fucked up, man, Like, what do you do?

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<v Speaker 2>Why are you in this situation?

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<v Speaker 1>Then you say you love your wives, well, demonstrate.

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<v Speaker 2>Love exactly, But he doesn't know how to because he

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<v Speaker 2>doesn't love three out of four women. Like he could

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<v Speaker 2>do that for Robin because he cares about her and

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<v Speaker 2>he loves her or whatever. And you know, I'm even

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<v Speaker 2>Cody a lot of grace because we know he's a

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<v Speaker 2>narcissistic demon, but it's like he can hold space for Robin,

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<v Speaker 2>but he can't do that for any of the other wives,

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<v Speaker 2>And it's just sad and like poor Christine is just

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<v Speaker 2>stuck in a corner, like what do you mean I

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<v Speaker 2>do care about the fucking fol so?

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<v Speaker 1>Well, what am I supposed to to do?

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<v Speaker 2>Really though?

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<v Speaker 1>Like just get happy with getting less exactly.

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<v Speaker 2>And then they have another little like couple's therapy activity

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<v Speaker 2>where they're on the beautiful beaches of Galveston, Texas, off

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<v Speaker 2>the side of a road where they are going to

420
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<v Speaker 2>stack rocks. They're going to do a rock tower, and

421
00:22:19.160 --> 00:22:23.680
<v Speaker 2>I felt like this segment was actually very symbolic of

422
00:22:23.799 --> 00:22:26.160
<v Speaker 2>their relationship at this point. It was actually very interesting,

423
00:22:26.240 --> 00:22:29.640
<v Speaker 2>like Sedona, Actually totally. So the whole purpose of the

424
00:22:29.680 --> 00:22:35.519
<v Speaker 2>activity is to stack rocks together that will somehow symbolize

425
00:22:35.559 --> 00:22:38.920
<v Speaker 2>like their relationship, and so like, here's this rock of

426
00:22:39.039 --> 00:22:42.000
<v Speaker 2>like love or this rock of trust or whatever. But

427
00:22:42.079 --> 00:22:47.680
<v Speaker 2>it turns into them stacking a tower that symbolizes the family.

428
00:22:48.279 --> 00:22:51.000
<v Speaker 2>So Cody wants to start off with the four quarners

429
00:22:51.799 --> 00:22:54.319
<v Speaker 2>that will be the foundation, which is the family, and

430
00:22:54.359 --> 00:22:56.640
<v Speaker 2>then we have to have twenty three rocks or whatever

431
00:22:56.759 --> 00:22:58.759
<v Speaker 2>to symbolize all of the members of the family and

432
00:22:58.799 --> 00:23:01.200
<v Speaker 2>all of the children. And Christine is like, but can

433
00:23:01.200 --> 00:23:04.480
<v Speaker 2>we have it be like about our relationship though us?

434
00:23:04.680 --> 00:23:07.720
<v Speaker 1>Can? I ask you? Was the task for them to

435
00:23:07.839 --> 00:23:11.640
<v Speaker 1>build the cairn to represent their relationship? Yes, I thought

436
00:23:11.680 --> 00:23:14.000
<v Speaker 1>that it was. It was okay, So he was going

437
00:23:14.880 --> 00:23:17.000
<v Speaker 1>rogue for the family, for the family.

438
00:23:16.759 --> 00:23:20.599
<v Speaker 2>Okay, because I don't think Cody has ever thought about

439
00:23:21.200 --> 00:23:25.880
<v Speaker 2>him and Christine's actual relationship, no whatsoever. I think I

440
00:23:25.880 --> 00:23:28.359
<v Speaker 2>think you've talked about it before on previous episodes, so

441
00:23:28.400 --> 00:23:31.279
<v Speaker 2>forgive me if I'm repeating it. But like he looks

442
00:23:31.319 --> 00:23:34.960
<v Speaker 2>at Christine as the foundation of the family. She was

443
00:23:35.000 --> 00:23:37.640
<v Speaker 2>the one that mothered all of the kids, she homeschooled everybody.

444
00:23:37.720 --> 00:23:40.599
<v Speaker 2>She was the basement wife, but she stayed at home

445
00:23:41.279 --> 00:23:45.480
<v Speaker 2>and mothered everybody also worked exactly night yep, and Mary

446
00:23:45.519 --> 00:23:47.960
<v Speaker 2>and Janelle were working too, but like Christine was really

447
00:23:48.480 --> 00:23:52.039
<v Speaker 2>the main mom and like the main present mom there,

448
00:23:52.079 --> 00:23:55.039
<v Speaker 2>because Janel was also busy, you know, popping out kids and.

449
00:23:55.039 --> 00:23:58.559
<v Speaker 1>Also working and suiting her children exactly going to the movies.

450
00:23:58.440 --> 00:24:01.680
<v Speaker 2>Except letting Christine mother her kids basically, And so that's

451
00:24:01.680 --> 00:24:06.039
<v Speaker 2>how Cody views Christine. So he can't really lock into

452
00:24:06.079 --> 00:24:09.640
<v Speaker 2>anything about their relationship because all their relationship is to

453
00:24:09.720 --> 00:24:12.519
<v Speaker 2>him is stay at home and take care of the

454
00:24:12.599 --> 00:24:15.960
<v Speaker 2>kids and be the mom. And it's actually really sad

455
00:24:16.000 --> 00:24:22.599
<v Speaker 2>because Christine just wants him to express something about their relationship,

456
00:24:22.759 --> 00:24:27.519
<v Speaker 2>show some kind of interest in just us, and Cody

457
00:24:27.599 --> 00:24:31.000
<v Speaker 2>literally can't get there. And he even talks about it

458
00:24:31.039 --> 00:24:32.920
<v Speaker 2>on the couch. He's like, I know Christine wanted us,

459
00:24:33.119 --> 00:24:35.480
<v Speaker 2>wanted me to focus on us, but I wasn't gonna

460
00:24:35.519 --> 00:24:38.440
<v Speaker 2>let her. I'm just going to focus on the family

461
00:24:38.799 --> 00:24:42.039
<v Speaker 2>and the tenets of the family. And so ultimately, to

462
00:24:42.119 --> 00:24:45.400
<v Speaker 2>avoid a fight and to avoid arguing with Cody, Christine

463
00:24:45.559 --> 00:24:48.759
<v Speaker 2>just capitulates, Yep, goes limp and just lets him do

464
00:24:48.839 --> 00:24:53.039
<v Speaker 2>whatever he wants, and to the camera, she says, I

465
00:24:53.039 --> 00:24:55.160
<v Speaker 2>don't even want to talk about the rock activity. It

466
00:24:55.200 --> 00:24:58.480
<v Speaker 2>was heartbreaking, it was frustrating. It was the worst part

467
00:24:58.599 --> 00:25:01.640
<v Speaker 2>of the trip. While Cody is over there laughing and

468
00:25:01.680 --> 00:25:04.519
<v Speaker 2>talking about it to the producers, like, yeah, I didn't

469
00:25:04.559 --> 00:25:07.319
<v Speaker 2>let her choose what we were going to do for

470
00:25:07.359 --> 00:25:10.079
<v Speaker 2>the activity. I just did it. And you know, when

471
00:25:10.079 --> 00:25:13.799
<v Speaker 2>they're actually on the beach, I think Pat's there and

472
00:25:13.880 --> 00:25:14.599
<v Speaker 2>Nancy's there.

473
00:25:14.759 --> 00:25:16.200
<v Speaker 1>Nancy's there at the beach.

474
00:25:16.240 --> 00:25:18.039
<v Speaker 2>I thought Pat was there too, but I guess it

475
00:25:18.119 --> 00:25:19.319
<v Speaker 2>was just unters with Pat.

476
00:25:19.319 --> 00:25:21.440
<v Speaker 1>On the final day, Yeah, yeah, yeah.

477
00:25:21.039 --> 00:25:24.440
<v Speaker 2>But he tells Christine like, yeah, I didn't let you

478
00:25:24.480 --> 00:25:27.119
<v Speaker 2>do anything, right, And she's like, no, not really, was

479
00:25:27.119 --> 00:25:31.480
<v Speaker 2>he too? BOSSI yeah you were okay ha, Well we

480
00:25:31.519 --> 00:25:32.599
<v Speaker 2>built a tower though.

481
00:25:32.480 --> 00:25:35.119
<v Speaker 1>And where are you, Nancy? Why aren't you saying anything

482
00:25:35.319 --> 00:25:38.480
<v Speaker 1>while this is happening. She's a horrible there. Why aren't

483
00:25:38.519 --> 00:25:42.440
<v Speaker 1>you stopping him? Because he's not actually doing the task,

484
00:25:42.640 --> 00:25:44.559
<v Speaker 1>He's doing his own thing, Like shouldn't you be in

485
00:25:44.599 --> 00:25:46.480
<v Speaker 1>there kind of coaching? But she did not. She just

486
00:25:46.519 --> 00:25:47.920
<v Speaker 1>watched and observed.

487
00:25:47.640 --> 00:25:50.200
<v Speaker 2>And she didn't say anything after the fact either. She

488
00:25:50.359 --> 00:25:52.160
<v Speaker 2>just just like how did you feel about it? And

489
00:25:52.200 --> 00:25:54.440
<v Speaker 2>of course, like Christine kind of lies at the moment

490
00:25:54.519 --> 00:25:57.559
<v Speaker 2>and she's like, well, it was fine whatever, and Coddy's like, yeah,

491
00:25:57.599 --> 00:25:59.920
<v Speaker 2>I think we built a good tower. It represents the

492
00:26:00.480 --> 00:26:02.119
<v Speaker 2>It's great because you know, it's not just about me

493
00:26:02.160 --> 00:26:04.880
<v Speaker 2>and Christine, it's about the whole family, and we just

494
00:26:04.920 --> 00:26:07.720
<v Speaker 2>don't talk anything else anywhere else about it.

495
00:26:08.359 --> 00:26:12.759
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, And I was really wondering about this because we

496
00:26:12.880 --> 00:26:17.039
<v Speaker 1>could look at that and determine, oh, it's just Cody

497
00:26:17.039 --> 00:26:20.640
<v Speaker 1>being Cody, like Cody's oblivious, it's all about Cody. Or

498
00:26:21.400 --> 00:26:24.039
<v Speaker 1>this could have been a very intentional act by Cody

499
00:26:24.759 --> 00:26:28.759
<v Speaker 1>to communicate to Christine exactly how he views her, which

500
00:26:28.920 --> 00:26:30.960
<v Speaker 1>you just kind of put into context. You're the mother,

501
00:26:31.200 --> 00:26:33.920
<v Speaker 1>You're the cornerstone. I need you to support the family.

502
00:26:33.960 --> 00:26:36.279
<v Speaker 1>That's the role I'm putting you in. That's how you're

503
00:26:36.359 --> 00:26:39.880
<v Speaker 1>valuable to me. He knew what Christine wanted to do

504
00:26:40.279 --> 00:26:43.720
<v Speaker 1>throughout the entire exercise. She was asking, she was attempting

505
00:26:43.759 --> 00:26:47.480
<v Speaker 1>to contribute, and he just kept railroading her because I

506
00:26:47.519 --> 00:26:51.400
<v Speaker 1>think he wanted her to see how he actually views her,

507
00:26:51.880 --> 00:26:55.440
<v Speaker 1>so that later that night, when she wants to get

508
00:26:55.440 --> 00:26:58.519
<v Speaker 1>intimate with him because this is their anniversary trip to Hey, Alveston.

509
00:26:58.599 --> 00:27:02.000
<v Speaker 1>I'm sure she's hope they'll bang or something and try

510
00:27:02.039 --> 00:27:04.240
<v Speaker 1>to reconnect. He's trying to show her in this moment

511
00:27:04.279 --> 00:27:06.160
<v Speaker 1>like that, actually, this is how we see you, though

512
00:27:06.680 --> 00:27:08.960
<v Speaker 1>I don't see you as a sexy mama that I

513
00:27:09.000 --> 00:27:10.920
<v Speaker 1>want to take to bed tonight. So get that through

514
00:27:10.960 --> 00:27:14.680
<v Speaker 1>your thick skull, Christine. That's kind of what I walked

515
00:27:14.680 --> 00:27:17.240
<v Speaker 1>away from that feeling like it was eentional.

516
00:27:17.480 --> 00:27:20.000
<v Speaker 2>I could see that, because I mean, it was very blatant,

517
00:27:20.000 --> 00:27:23.079
<v Speaker 2>like he was just totally ignoring the purpose of the

518
00:27:23.160 --> 00:27:26.200
<v Speaker 2>exercise to focus on their relationship, to be like, no,

519
00:27:26.279 --> 00:27:28.640
<v Speaker 2>it's all about the family. I could see that as

520
00:27:28.680 --> 00:27:31.680
<v Speaker 2>being like an intentional thing on his part. It's just

521
00:27:31.799 --> 00:27:34.519
<v Speaker 2>sad that Christine can't see it at this point. And

522
00:27:34.559 --> 00:27:38.400
<v Speaker 2>it's sad because Christine wants more, and I think she's

523
00:27:38.440 --> 00:27:41.359
<v Speaker 2>been trying to express that she wants more, but Cody

524
00:27:41.480 --> 00:27:43.119
<v Speaker 2>just doesn't give a shit.

525
00:27:43.400 --> 00:27:45.000
<v Speaker 1>What do you mean when you say it's sad that

526
00:27:45.079 --> 00:27:46.279
<v Speaker 1>Christine can't see.

527
00:27:46.119 --> 00:27:49.160
<v Speaker 2>It, Like, it's sad that she can't see that this

528
00:27:49.200 --> 00:27:50.240
<v Speaker 2>is how Cody sees her.

529
00:27:51.000 --> 00:27:52.599
<v Speaker 1>I think she can see it. I don't think she.

530
00:27:52.799 --> 00:27:55.480
<v Speaker 1>I think in this moment she can, and I think

531
00:27:55.480 --> 00:27:57.839
<v Speaker 1>there are a lot of women out there who have

532
00:27:57.960 --> 00:28:00.920
<v Speaker 1>been in relationships and it's kind of this critical moment

533
00:28:00.960 --> 00:28:05.000
<v Speaker 1>where you're asking yourself, Okay, it's now up to me.

534
00:28:05.319 --> 00:28:07.400
<v Speaker 1>It's a choice I'm going to have to make. Is

535
00:28:07.440 --> 00:28:10.440
<v Speaker 1>this good enough for me? Am I willing to live

536
00:28:10.480 --> 00:28:12.960
<v Speaker 1>the rest of my life with this guy getting this

537
00:28:13.200 --> 00:28:16.119
<v Speaker 1>much from him? Can I be happy? Can I do that?

538
00:28:16.440 --> 00:28:18.839
<v Speaker 1>Or am I going to have to make a different

539
00:28:18.880 --> 00:28:22.319
<v Speaker 1>decision for myself? And a lot of women they stay,

540
00:28:22.559 --> 00:28:24.839
<v Speaker 1>they continue to try and work it out, which we

541
00:28:24.960 --> 00:28:27.960
<v Speaker 1>know that Christine does, but then at some point we

542
00:28:28.119 --> 00:28:32.559
<v Speaker 1>women will hit a wall and will be like that's it. Yeah,

543
00:28:32.599 --> 00:28:35.680
<v Speaker 1>I'm going and you cannot stop me. So to me,

544
00:28:35.839 --> 00:28:37.839
<v Speaker 1>when I'm looking at Christine, I feel like she's in

545
00:28:37.880 --> 00:28:40.839
<v Speaker 1>that little space where she's like, Okay, So he's telling

546
00:28:40.880 --> 00:28:44.599
<v Speaker 1>me how he sees me. He's showing me who he is.

547
00:28:44.599 --> 00:28:47.000
<v Speaker 1>Is that going to be enough? Can I accept that

548
00:28:47.400 --> 00:28:49.960
<v Speaker 1>and be happy? Because she told us in this episode,

549
00:28:50.000 --> 00:28:53.000
<v Speaker 1>like you said, every day is hard, Yeah, every day

550
00:28:53.119 --> 00:28:56.400
<v Speaker 1>is abysmal. I'm depressed, Like what if I accepted this

551
00:28:56.799 --> 00:28:59.279
<v Speaker 1>what he's telling me that we can have Can I

552
00:28:59.319 --> 00:29:01.559
<v Speaker 1>be happy? I feel like that's where she is in

553
00:29:01.599 --> 00:29:02.119
<v Speaker 1>this moment.

554
00:29:02.720 --> 00:29:05.039
<v Speaker 2>Maybe you're right, because in the next segment, they go

555
00:29:05.200 --> 00:29:09.200
<v Speaker 2>to a romantic dinner at Sharon's or whatever, this fancy

556
00:29:09.240 --> 00:29:13.480
<v Speaker 2>restaurant Booty is Hella Booty Booty, and she's excited because

557
00:29:13.519 --> 00:29:16.119
<v Speaker 2>she's like, she never gets to have dates like this

558
00:29:16.319 --> 00:29:18.519
<v Speaker 2>at all in general, and she never gets to have

559
00:29:18.559 --> 00:29:22.720
<v Speaker 2>like a fancy dinner date regardless. So she tells him

560
00:29:22.799 --> 00:29:25.160
<v Speaker 2>at the dinner, you know, I think the whole purpose

561
00:29:25.160 --> 00:29:27.319
<v Speaker 2>of this trip was for me to understand you better.

562
00:29:27.359 --> 00:29:29.799
<v Speaker 2>And she does bring up the rocks, so maybe that

563
00:29:29.920 --> 00:29:33.240
<v Speaker 2>is her way of saying, oh, I see how you

564
00:29:33.279 --> 00:29:35.960
<v Speaker 2>see me. Now I understand it, but I don't know

565
00:29:36.000 --> 00:29:38.200
<v Speaker 2>the way that I took it was like she was

566
00:29:38.440 --> 00:29:41.119
<v Speaker 2>just capitulating to him and being like, yeah, I know,

567
00:29:41.200 --> 00:29:44.519
<v Speaker 2>like I got you, I see you, Cody, listen to you,

568
00:29:44.599 --> 00:29:46.519
<v Speaker 2>but like he's not saying the same thing.

569
00:29:46.359 --> 00:29:48.880
<v Speaker 1>To her, and she asks him, I think in this

570
00:29:48.920 --> 00:29:51.960
<v Speaker 1>conversation when they're at dinner, can you trust me?

571
00:29:52.279 --> 00:29:52.559
<v Speaker 2>Yeah?

572
00:29:52.599 --> 00:29:54.720
<v Speaker 1>All I want is for you to trust me, which

573
00:29:54.759 --> 00:29:58.079
<v Speaker 1>again is the gateway to intimacy, h which is the

574
00:29:58.119 --> 00:30:01.680
<v Speaker 1>gateway to saving their marriage. I please trust me, and

575
00:30:01.720 --> 00:30:03.519
<v Speaker 1>Cord He's like, yeah, yeah, I can trust you. He

576
00:30:03.519 --> 00:30:04.279
<v Speaker 1>doesn't trust her.

577
00:30:04.440 --> 00:30:06.079
<v Speaker 2>Do you think they banged it all in the strip?

578
00:30:07.039 --> 00:30:10.319
<v Speaker 1>I wondered about that, Yeah, who it would be hard

579
00:30:10.359 --> 00:30:14.480
<v Speaker 1>for him to turn her away, Yeah, because he's got

580
00:30:14.480 --> 00:30:17.480
<v Speaker 1>to know that's her expectation, of course. But I also

581
00:30:17.559 --> 00:30:19.480
<v Speaker 1>can't see him given her the d.

582
00:30:20.000 --> 00:30:22.000
<v Speaker 2>I feel like if they did, it was only once

583
00:30:22.519 --> 00:30:24.319
<v Speaker 2>and it was bad. That's what I think.

584
00:30:24.599 --> 00:30:26.400
<v Speaker 1>Well, and I was thinking, like, truly, is what three

585
00:30:26.480 --> 00:30:28.720
<v Speaker 1>years old? Four years old here? So it wasn't that

586
00:30:28.880 --> 00:30:32.319
<v Speaker 1>long ago, No, that they were banging. They were having babies.

587
00:30:33.000 --> 00:30:35.359
<v Speaker 1>In just the short amount of time that Robin has

588
00:30:35.400 --> 00:30:39.279
<v Speaker 1>been in this family, he has completely shunned Christine.

589
00:30:39.400 --> 00:30:43.359
<v Speaker 2>One sad and like Christine really is, to her credit,

590
00:30:43.480 --> 00:30:47.599
<v Speaker 2>trying to be a good wife and like trying to

591
00:30:47.720 --> 00:30:50.799
<v Speaker 2>be like understanding and trying to take ownership for the

592
00:30:50.839 --> 00:30:54.039
<v Speaker 2>fact that she's been jealous and she's been angry or whatever.

593
00:30:54.400 --> 00:30:57.319
<v Speaker 2>She even has a segment where she talks about Cody

594
00:30:57.359 --> 00:31:00.400
<v Speaker 2>and Gwen's relationship and she tries to relate it to

595
00:31:00.400 --> 00:31:04.200
<v Speaker 2>her and Cody, where I guess Cody and Gwen had

596
00:31:04.359 --> 00:31:08.400
<v Speaker 2>some issues, like different conflicting personalities where Gwen was just

597
00:31:08.400 --> 00:31:10.920
<v Speaker 2>like a bit too much and Cody was like annoyed

598
00:31:10.920 --> 00:31:14.759
<v Speaker 2>with her or whatever. But then he learned to adjust

599
00:31:14.839 --> 00:31:17.960
<v Speaker 2>with her and learned to like be the dad that

600
00:31:18.039 --> 00:31:20.240
<v Speaker 2>she needed him to be. And so now they have

601
00:31:20.319 --> 00:31:23.839
<v Speaker 2>this really sweet relationship. And then Christine looks at that

602
00:31:23.920 --> 00:31:25.920
<v Speaker 2>and is like, now I can see that that's what

603
00:31:25.960 --> 00:31:28.480
<v Speaker 2>Cody is trying to do with me. And I'm like,

604
00:31:28.720 --> 00:31:32.599
<v Speaker 2>is he though, because he's not really giving you what

605
00:31:32.640 --> 00:31:34.359
<v Speaker 2>you want, and how is he adjusting to you?

606
00:31:34.519 --> 00:31:36.640
<v Speaker 1>Well, maybe what she's saying is now I see that

607
00:31:36.759 --> 00:31:38.720
<v Speaker 1>the way to get Cody to love me is if

608
00:31:38.759 --> 00:31:42.640
<v Speaker 1>I adjust, maybe I shift and change. Then yeah, maybe

609
00:31:42.680 --> 00:31:43.839
<v Speaker 1>he'll want to be closer to me.

610
00:31:44.079 --> 00:31:47.039
<v Speaker 2>God, I wish I could shake past Christine like no,

611
00:31:47.720 --> 00:31:51.400
<v Speaker 2>but you know, well it is a process, a process,

612
00:31:51.599 --> 00:31:54.200
<v Speaker 2>and what she leaves him like only a few more.

613
00:31:54.200 --> 00:31:57.079
<v Speaker 1>Years later, within five right, So this is twenty fourteen,

614
00:31:57.200 --> 00:31:59.519
<v Speaker 1>So twenty twenty was six.

615
00:31:59.319 --> 00:32:04.599
<v Speaker 2>Years seventy Yeah, so six seven And so the last

616
00:32:04.640 --> 00:32:08.000
<v Speaker 2>portion of the episode is when Cody and Christine meet

617
00:32:08.079 --> 00:32:14.200
<v Speaker 2>up with their friend Pat, the lesbian therapist, and Pat

618
00:32:14.279 --> 00:32:19.079
<v Speaker 2>asks them what they've learned on the trip and Cody says,

619
00:32:19.160 --> 00:32:21.960
<v Speaker 2>you know, when it's cloudy and rady, I just got

620
00:32:21.960 --> 00:32:24.839
<v Speaker 2>to like let my wives be blue. And that's hard

621
00:32:24.880 --> 00:32:27.440
<v Speaker 2>for me when they're blue, because I really feel bad

622
00:32:27.440 --> 00:32:28.759
<v Speaker 2>when they're blue.

623
00:32:30.079 --> 00:32:32.039
<v Speaker 1>So simplistic and stupid.

624
00:32:32.119 --> 00:32:34.519
<v Speaker 2>It's so dumb, and it's performative too, Yeah, because he

625
00:32:34.559 --> 00:32:36.799
<v Speaker 2>doesn't actually give a shit when they're sad or they're upset.

626
00:32:36.839 --> 00:32:38.880
<v Speaker 2>He just avoids them and goes and hangs out at

627
00:32:38.960 --> 00:32:42.599
<v Speaker 2>Robin's house. And Cody says on the couch, you know,

628
00:32:42.680 --> 00:32:47.880
<v Speaker 2>he's always been afraid to acknowledge his wives sorrow and

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<v Speaker 2>they're jealousy and they're bad emotions because he doesn't want

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<v Speaker 2>to deal with it. But now he's learning through this

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<v Speaker 2>trip that he should just be there.

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<v Speaker 1>Now you're learning this is your twenty first anniversary. Yeah,

633
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<v Speaker 1>you've been married to Mary and Janelle longer than that,

634
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<v Speaker 1>and now you're learning.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, just now, okay, just now. He's learning that he

636
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<v Speaker 2>can't be offended when they bring up their issues. He

637
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<v Speaker 2>just needs to hold space and be there and validate them.

638
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<v Speaker 2>But I'm like, that's a crock of shit because we

639
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<v Speaker 2>know you're not doing that.

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<v Speaker 1>No, you're not going to do that at all. So

641
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<v Speaker 1>you're a bad polygamist husband because you're just expecting your

642
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<v Speaker 1>wives to self regulate and take care of it, and

643
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<v Speaker 1>if they don't, you're going to resent them, yep, and

644
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<v Speaker 1>hold it against them.

645
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<v Speaker 2>And like, while they're having this conversation with Pat, Cody

646
00:33:35.160 --> 00:33:37.799
<v Speaker 2>brings up Mary at one point and he's like, yeah,

647
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<v Speaker 2>you know, through the entirety of my marriage with Mary,

648
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<v Speaker 2>all I did was argue with her every time she

649
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<v Speaker 2>had issues. And now I'm realizing through couple's therapy with

650
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<v Speaker 2>Christine that I actually should have held space for Mary,

651
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<v Speaker 2>and I guess I can hold space for Christine. And

652
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<v Speaker 2>I'm like, dude, why are we talking about other wives again? Too?

653
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<v Speaker 2>And it just goes back to what I was saying earlier,

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<v Speaker 2>like Cody doesn't see Christine as his wife really, as

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<v Speaker 2>or as a role yep, exactly, something to fulfill for him.

656
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<v Speaker 2>And you know, then we kind of just end the episode,

657
00:34:13.079 --> 00:34:17.280
<v Speaker 2>and you know, Christine's like bittersweet about it because she's like,

658
00:34:17.280 --> 00:34:19.760
<v Speaker 2>I don't know how to hold on to this like

659
00:34:20.079 --> 00:34:25.079
<v Speaker 2>good like energy that we have from this weekend, And

660
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<v Speaker 2>I'm like, is there any good energy?

661
00:34:26.719 --> 00:34:27.960
<v Speaker 1>She's awful weekend?

662
00:34:28.239 --> 00:34:30.320
<v Speaker 2>She brings up like magic. At one point she's like,

663
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<v Speaker 2>it's such a magical time and I was really at

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<v Speaker 2>the pirate Museum maybe, but like she doesn't know how

665
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<v Speaker 2>to hold on to that when they go back to

666
00:34:39.440 --> 00:34:42.320
<v Speaker 2>their everyday lives, because you know, we're just the two

667
00:34:42.320 --> 00:34:45.760
<v Speaker 2>of us here, plus are two therapists and the camera crew.

668
00:34:45.920 --> 00:34:47.760
<v Speaker 2>We're just the two of us here on this trip.

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<v Speaker 2>But then we go back and we have all these

670
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<v Speaker 2>kids and he has all these wives, Like, I don't

671
00:34:52.159 --> 00:34:53.920
<v Speaker 2>know how to hold on to that, and I'm like, girl,

672
00:34:54.599 --> 00:34:57.039
<v Speaker 2>you're not gonna be able to And so the end

673
00:34:57.079 --> 00:35:01.480
<v Speaker 2>their trip in Galveston both protec like it was a

674
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<v Speaker 2>good time.

675
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<v Speaker 1>Right, and it's pretty sad it is.

676
00:35:04.480 --> 00:35:07.679
<v Speaker 2>Then we get to the preview for the next couple episodes.

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<v Speaker 2>We have Robin telling Cody that Preston is ultimately going

678
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<v Speaker 2>to sign their adoption paperwork and everything's gonna work out.

679
00:35:15.719 --> 00:35:18.360
<v Speaker 2>They're gonna be able to adopt their kids. We have

680
00:35:18.519 --> 00:35:24.239
<v Speaker 2>this like stupid Las Vegas pirate boat race competition that

681
00:35:24.320 --> 00:35:27.000
<v Speaker 2>the family is going to enroll in, and I actually

682
00:35:27.000 --> 00:35:29.599
<v Speaker 2>remember these episodes because they get kind of tense where

683
00:35:29.599 --> 00:35:32.519
<v Speaker 2>the family is like building this like stupid paper mache

684
00:35:32.840 --> 00:35:36.320
<v Speaker 2>boat for this race, and we see this in the preview.

685
00:35:36.599 --> 00:35:39.840
<v Speaker 2>Cody and Christine are arguing like crazy, just yelling at

686
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<v Speaker 2>each other the entire time, and it's in front of

687
00:35:43.719 --> 00:35:46.119
<v Speaker 2>like the other wives and the family, and Janelle's like,

688
00:35:46.159 --> 00:35:49.880
<v Speaker 2>this is awkward. Af things are getting pretty intense and

689
00:35:50.039 --> 00:35:52.360
<v Speaker 2>Cody and Christine are yelling at each other. Christine says,

690
00:35:52.840 --> 00:35:56.280
<v Speaker 2>I've been getting yelled at for forty straight. I'm over this,

691
00:35:56.719 --> 00:35:59.639
<v Speaker 2>and then Robin pipes up and is like, can y'all

692
00:35:59.639 --> 00:36:02.519
<v Speaker 2>just stop? And I don't know if she was saying

693
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<v Speaker 2>that and to Cody or to Christine or to the

694
00:36:05.920 --> 00:36:08.719
<v Speaker 2>both of them, I don't know, but that's it.

695
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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, it felt to me in that moment like it

696
00:36:10.760 --> 00:36:12.280
<v Speaker 1>was Cody. But we'll watch them. We'll see, because I

697
00:36:12.280 --> 00:36:13.519
<v Speaker 1>don't remember that episode at all.

698
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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, and let's talk about the next couple episodes, because

699
00:36:17.000 --> 00:36:19.559
<v Speaker 2>there's some that are like about the wives. So like,

700
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<v Speaker 2>the next episode after this one is all about Christine, okay,

701
00:36:23.079 --> 00:36:25.719
<v Speaker 2>and it's like going over their relationship, and then again

702
00:36:25.880 --> 00:36:29.199
<v Speaker 2>a regular episode, and then it's all about Janelle and

703
00:36:29.239 --> 00:36:31.599
<v Speaker 2>then a regular episode. So I'm like, can we skip

704
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<v Speaker 2>the couple ones? Yes?

705
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<v Speaker 1>Okay, good because that gets us closer to the cap fits. Yes, okay,

706
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<v Speaker 1>I think episode ten or eleven or twelve.

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<v Speaker 2>Cool.

708
00:36:39.400 --> 00:36:41.920
<v Speaker 1>So yeah, because it's going to just be their dumb

709
00:36:41.920 --> 00:36:45.599
<v Speaker 1>wedding pictures it totally and their dating journeys. We already

710
00:36:45.639 --> 00:36:47.400
<v Speaker 1>know all about that and it's boring.

711
00:36:47.519 --> 00:36:49.800
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, like, we get it, Christine and you are miserable.

712
00:36:50.039 --> 00:36:52.480
<v Speaker 1>Yes, I mean, unless we're missing something. I know a

713
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<v Speaker 1>lot of you out there have watched those episodes about

714
00:36:56.119 --> 00:36:58.880
<v Speaker 1>Christine about Janelle, Like are they good? Is it worth

715
00:36:58.880 --> 00:37:01.360
<v Speaker 1>a watch? Because if not, we're just gonna skip it.

716
00:37:01.440 --> 00:37:03.400
<v Speaker 1>We should skip and stay with the timeline. Okay, you're

717
00:37:03.400 --> 00:37:05.800
<v Speaker 1>just making it an executive decision.

718
00:37:07.159 --> 00:37:10.800
<v Speaker 2>I'm gonna railroad you like Cody, this is your project,

719
00:37:10.880 --> 00:37:14.159
<v Speaker 2>then it is, this is your care God, just put

720
00:37:14.199 --> 00:37:15.039
<v Speaker 2>the heart on top of it.

721
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<v Speaker 1>Let's be done. Yeah, yikes.

722
00:37:17.360 --> 00:37:19.840
<v Speaker 2>Maybe we should build a rock tower. Want to symbolize

723
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<v Speaker 2>our podcast?

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<v Speaker 1>Oh yeah, okay, it's just gonna be a dumpster filled

725
00:37:22.880 --> 00:37:26.920
<v Speaker 1>with rocks. Yeah. Oh god, Well, is there anything else

726
00:37:27.000 --> 00:37:29.440
<v Speaker 1>that we need to say to these beautiful raccoons before

727
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<v Speaker 1>we get up on out of here?

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<v Speaker 2>Badchaz? Well, if you love our podcast, please do us

729
00:37:34.000 --> 00:37:36.239
<v Speaker 2>a favor. Go to your favorite podcast platform and leave

730
00:37:36.320 --> 00:37:39.280
<v Speaker 2>us a glowing five star review. It costs you nothing

731
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<v Speaker 2>and it really helps us grow the pod and we

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<v Speaker 2>would really appreciate it, so thank you very much.

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<v Speaker 1>We will be back in just a couple of days

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<v Speaker 1>to talk. Welcome to Platfill. Yeah it's a little boring.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah it's a little strange, but we've got that converse

736
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<v Speaker 1>with Kim and Lydia girl. Lots going on, so we'll

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<v Speaker 1>be back for that. Until then, please not forget that

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<v Speaker 1>we have nothing but love for you and peace and

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<v Speaker 1>mighty
