Speaker 1: And he's out for a couple of hours.
Speaker 2: Not me.
Speaker 1: I just started the show. We haven't said anything.
Speaker 2: Hey, it's it's Mike Aja and everything is a bit
Speaker 2: episode number thirty eight, back at you two weeks in
Speaker 2: a row.
Speaker 1: Hey, we got a streak going. Isn't that like the awesome.
Speaker 3: Like the Yankees a couple of games.
Speaker 2: Well, unfortunately that's how streak of their own going, which
Speaker 2: we won't talk about. Lots going on as usual.
Speaker 1: Path.
Speaker 2: I want to talk to you about Howard though I
Speaker 2: know you spent a bunch of time on Famous the
Speaker 2: Bitch telling old stories, but we both.
Speaker 3: Have a huge story. It's a huge story.
Speaker 1: I think we both have really interesting perspectives on.
Speaker 3: You're a big boss in the radio world, so you
Speaker 3: know the numbers, you know the analytics of what how
Speaker 3: powerful his station was and is it is it correct
Speaker 3: to say it was the it was the best most
Speaker 3: popular radio show of all time ever in the world.
Speaker 3: I can't imagine the show being bigger than how it's done.
Speaker 2: Well, it was a five hour show, right, so you're right,
Speaker 2: Rush would be the thing that I might compared to it,
Speaker 2: but very very different things.
Speaker 1: But both Look what Howard did so we're.
Speaker 2: Both we're in the entertainment business. You were actually a
Speaker 2: part of the show. We saw it from sort of
Speaker 2: the inside perspective of me as running a business in
Speaker 2: that industry, you being a part of the show. But also,
Speaker 2: I think both of us major fans of the show,
Speaker 2: and it's such an incredible story looking at him, because
Speaker 2: here is a guy that made his name taking on
Speaker 2: the establishment. I mean, the show was counterculture, anti establishment
Speaker 2: in your face.
Speaker 1: Everybody was fair game.
Speaker 2: There was no such thing as a tactless joke. I mean,
Speaker 2: there was nothing that wouldn't be done in the name
Speaker 2: of entertainment.
Speaker 3: No, it was amazing and and with people I've said
Speaker 3: this many times, but when you get inside the show
Speaker 3: and you're in the guts of the show, and I'm
Speaker 3: sitting on that little area, Benji Brons to my right,
Speaker 3: Fred Norris to my left, I'm in the chair of
Speaker 3: the Jackie chair. How it Lobbin's across the room in
Speaker 3: the glass booth. And what people don't know is as
Speaker 3: seventy five percent of the jokes, how it says, come
Speaker 3: from Fred or Benji and Jackiey. And what they do
Speaker 3: is they there's piece of paper, they quickly he's on
Speaker 3: the phone with somebody. They'll write these jokes. They put
Speaker 3: it in a tray. How It had a computer camera
Speaker 3: to look at the tray, and on his laptop he
Speaker 3: would see the joke and he'd fire out Fred's joke, well,
Speaker 3: Benji's joke. These guys was so fast that I didn't
Speaker 3: even run right because I couldn't get in there, so
Speaker 3: I just talked. He kept my mic open. But Howard
Speaker 3: doesn't say as much as people think he does from
Speaker 3: his own head. And I know he's right. I know
Speaker 3: he's very intelligent. But during those days, it was fast, fast,
Speaker 3: fast joke writing, just blinding speed.
Speaker 1: And it was I mean, it was so freaking funny.
Speaker 3: And he's like, it was like a little boy. When
Speaker 3: you're there, he's like a little boy. Like he'll put
Speaker 3: the call on mute and just put his face in
Speaker 3: his hands and laugh because you know, he can't believe
Speaker 3: it's going this great. Or he'd shout out to us
Speaker 3: where a guy couldn't hear how great? Like he just
Speaker 3: like a little kid. He loved to get those. He
Speaker 3: wanted people to squirm all the time. And if you
Speaker 3: could swirm with him and stay at your feet. Then
Speaker 3: he loved you, you know, he loved that you can
Speaker 3: go punch for punch, pounds it down. Yeah, but you know,
Speaker 3: you know, you just look, he's seventy one years old.
Speaker 3: I met him thirty one years ago, his fortieth birthday party.
Speaker 3: We're all different now at seventy one years old. Even
Speaker 3: at sixty five, you can't keep speaking about sex and
Speaker 3: the way he used to. His daughters were getting older.
Speaker 3: They didn't like what they were hearing from him. I
Speaker 3: think one's gay. Actually, not that it matters, but you know,
Speaker 3: he made fun of everybody. Everybody was fair game. But
Speaker 3: Marcy Turk, that's the woman who came into his life
Speaker 3: and changed everything. She gave him a book. I can't
Speaker 3: remember the title, but it was a whole thing about
Speaker 3: getting rid of the bad mojo of your past. Marci Turk,
Speaker 3: I feel like she saw the future. Maybe it was
Speaker 3: way before me too, but she sensed that how's gonna
Speaker 3: get cut down if he continues to talk like that
Speaker 3: and have guests that speak like that, and then have
Speaker 3: video out there with him in blackface and you know,
Speaker 3: talking about Andemima and Mama Lukububu day and all this
Speaker 3: black stuff. It was. I mean, it was NonStop. Don't
Speaker 3: forget that he had the Channel nine show, then the
Speaker 3: E Show. It was like a triple prong attack for years.
Speaker 1: Oh and they were just so outrageous. Look, it was
Speaker 1: such a phenomenon when it happened first in afternoon radio
Speaker 1: and then in morning drive radio in New York.
Speaker 2: And you know, I'm in the ad business, and so
Speaker 2: I'm going from advertising agency to advertising agency, radio station
Speaker 2: to radio station.
Speaker 1: All day long.
Speaker 2: And because he started the show so damn early, and
Speaker 2: because you know morning traditional morning driving radio is for
Speaker 2: a show to go from six am to ten am,
Speaker 2: Stern routinely bled all the way to eleven thirty. I
Speaker 2: mean he stayed on the air an extra hour hour
Speaker 2: and a half. Everywhere you went. If you went in
Speaker 2: an office building, you could hear multiple radios, multiple radios
Speaker 2: blasting Stern in the same office building. If you didn't
Speaker 2: know what happened on the show that day or the
Speaker 2: day before, you couldn't contribute to the conversation going on
Speaker 2: in the office because it came from something he did
Speaker 2: on the show.
Speaker 1: It was that big of a cultural phenomenon. And then
Speaker 1: this was.
Speaker 2: Just brilliant the way that it was done. So the
Speaker 2: company that owned k Rock in New York at the
Speaker 2: time was called Infinity Broadcasting and mel Karmezan was the CEO.
Speaker 2: And there were so been so many mergers and sales
Speaker 2: and everything in the radio industry that that name disappeared
Speaker 2: a long time ago. But they owned a lot of
Speaker 2: stations in the country, across the country, and they began
Speaker 2: to take Howard and syndicate him self, syndicate him to
Speaker 2: other stations they owned in others cities, and in each city,
Speaker 2: he would set his sights on the big morning show
Speaker 2: talent in that city and his objective and he would
Speaker 2: get the fans involved in this.
Speaker 1: His objective was to destroy.
Speaker 2: So John Debella was the number was the number one
Speaker 2: morning show in Philadelphia on WMMR for years.
Speaker 1: They were my client. I used to sell the station.
Speaker 2: I used to get huge ad rates for WMMR in
Speaker 2: the morning. And you know, everybody thinks they're industry. Philadelphia
Speaker 2: is different. Debella's an institution. You can't stearns. What works
Speaker 2: in New York isn't gonna work in Philly. Blah blah blah.
Speaker 1: It took like six months for Howard to rip de
Speaker 1: Bella apart, and there were fifteen other jocks of that
Speaker 1: stature in other markets, including Mark and Brian in LA,
Speaker 1: which another big client of mine, huge show on k
Speaker 1: Los and Los Angeles.
Speaker 2: And everybody thought, now, Mark and Brian's a different show,
Speaker 2: it's more cerebral. They it's just it's not. Stearn's too different.
Speaker 2: It's not going to work in La blah blah blah.
Speaker 1: You know, it took him whatever. Maybe it took three
Speaker 1: rating books for him to destroy Mark and Brian.
Speaker 2: So he did this systematically, had the top show in
Speaker 2: mornings in Philadelphia, in.
Speaker 1: Chicago, in Dallas, in LA, in Washington, d C. Everywhere
Speaker 1: and everywhere.
Speaker 2: He took on the top DJ in that market and
Speaker 2: crushed him in six to twelve months.
Speaker 3: A lot of those DJs shit, a lot of them
Speaker 3: are too big for them riches, and they didn't see
Speaker 3: it coming. Like John develop, I think developed started to be.
Speaker 3: I think he began it. I like I used to
Speaker 3: listen to de Bello when he did w l R. Yeah,
Speaker 3: it was the fact that but didn't didn't his wife
Speaker 3: die or something or Howard or.
Speaker 2: Like Howard put her on Howard set her up on
Speaker 2: a date on his TV show Unforgetivable you, No.
Speaker 1: It was it was he. He didn't want to just
Speaker 1: be that person.
Speaker 2: He wanted to completely humiliate them and destroy their lives.
Speaker 3: Funeral parties in the streets.
Speaker 1: Absolutely.
Speaker 2: Once he beat the first rating book he got where
Speaker 2: he beat that former top show, he would hold a
Speaker 2: funeral for so that, for that, had a funeral for
Speaker 2: Mark and Bryan at a funeral.
Speaker 1: For fun development. I mean, it was. It was a phenomenon.
Speaker 3: And you know, I know he didn't well I know
Speaker 3: he didn't like them, but Opie and Anthony was huge too.
Speaker 3: In the same building as Howard when I used to
Speaker 3: work to go on the show, and as great as month,
Speaker 3: as wonderful as he is as a guy, he's like Trump.
Speaker 3: If he doesn't like you, that's it. It's hatred to
Speaker 3: the to the point where he instruct to the people
Speaker 3: in that building that Mark, Opie and Anthony cannot walk
Speaker 3: down the same hall he walks down in the morning
Speaker 3: when he's coming to work or leave you. And if
Speaker 3: they did, if they accidentally did, Howard would throw his
Speaker 3: ship fit. You had to. You couldn't look at him.
Speaker 3: This is opiing Anthony, not not the stand but I mean,
Speaker 3: that's such a it's he's such a hard person to
Speaker 3: figure out because he loves to laugh and have fun
Speaker 3: and then he does ship like that, then he goes
Speaker 3: off on the rail. And I think Trump is right
Speaker 3: when when he said that, when he when Howard ignores
Speaker 3: Hillary Clinton, that's when things began to go downhill for him.
Speaker 3: I think it came before that because that the show changed.
Speaker 3: But that's I.
Speaker 2: Think it really came part of for me, part of
Speaker 2: what I loved about him was there was all that
Speaker 2: irreverence and all that anti establishment, but he was also
Speaker 2: in love with Alison and the girls and and and
Speaker 2: the movie was was really all about his love affair
Speaker 2: with Alison and his life right. And so the very
Speaker 2: first thing he did to me that turned his back
Speaker 2: completely on the audience that had been so loyal to
Speaker 2: him was leaving Alison, uh for for Beth, And I thought,
Speaker 2: I mean, yes, there's the cmo at at serious XM
Speaker 2: then had a big impact on him, But I think
Speaker 2: it was Beth that had the huge impact on him.
Speaker 1: Look at if you think about.
Speaker 2: This, this is like you and I wake it up
Speaker 2: tomorrow and finding out that our buddy Kenny Wood was
Speaker 2: now uh, the political equivalent of AOC No.
Speaker 3: I mean.
Speaker 2: It is that radical a transformation in you know, so,
Speaker 2: which was the lie then or now?
Speaker 1: Or are you?
Speaker 2: Are you that really that weak? That one person completely
Speaker 2: took over your mind? I mean they completely changed who
Speaker 2: you are and you left behind these legions of fans
Speaker 2: who hung on your everyone. It's the greatest hypocrisy in
Speaker 2: history in my mind, It's just that I can't think
Speaker 2: of any transformation of It is a complete one eighty.
Speaker 1: In what you do in your left.
Speaker 4: For one day you you stand against everything the establishment
Speaker 4: stands for, and the next day you are as big
Speaker 4: and deep a part of the establishment as anyone is disgusting.
Speaker 1: I fucking I hate the guy, but you.
Speaker 3: Know, well, I can't. I can't hate him because I
Speaker 3: loved him. I can't hate him. I don't like so
Speaker 3: that guy's dead though, Oh the guy you love? I know,
Speaker 3: I know. And I used to say, I used to
Speaker 3: make the metaphor of the analogy that we all thought
Speaker 3: Howard was the guy, uh that wanted to make fun
Speaker 3: of people like in like in lunch room in high school.
Speaker 3: We didn't really didn't really know it is hot he
Speaker 3: really wanted to be accepted by Hollywood, accepted by the
Speaker 3: cool crowd, because he was a nerd. For his whole life,
Speaker 3: he was surrounded by nerds. The whack pack was all losers.
Speaker 3: And I think that that's a really good analogy that
Speaker 3: he went from that to where he is now. And
Speaker 3: I just that the book that Marcy Turk gave was
Speaker 3: called Getting Things Done. It's like a dianetics type book.
Speaker 3: And uh, look she got to what she got saw
Speaker 3: up in his head that he no more Gilbert Godfred
Speaker 3: on the show, no more already, no more Craig Gas,
Speaker 3: no more me to a lesser degree. Several others too,
Speaker 3: banned because Marcy didn't like what we brought and we
Speaker 3: got out of Howard so Bes had a partner Marcy did,
Speaker 3: and just old age and bitterness. I don't know why
Speaker 3: you're bitter, making five hundred million dollars unbelievable, but well,
Speaker 3: why do you why.
Speaker 1: Do you say bitterness? Where did where did that come from?
Speaker 3: Howard's bitter. He's bitter about about a lot of things.
Speaker 3: He's better looking, he's still in therapy four days a week.
Speaker 3: He should have a he should follow lawsuit against the
Speaker 3: doctors they can't fix him in thirty five years. It's unbelievable.
Speaker 3: Three times a week he's talking to his drink.
Speaker 2: No, wait, so does he Because I don't pay he's
Speaker 2: dead to me.
Speaker 1: I don't so I don't. I don't pay any attention
Speaker 1: to anything he does.
Speaker 2: No from the day that he crossed the line. But
Speaker 2: does he does he talk bad about old Howard? Does
Speaker 2: he express all kinds of regret for, you know, being
Speaker 2: the guy who called there Florida to ask when the
Speaker 2: next fight led for the fourteenth Street Bridge. I mean
Speaker 2: that that was that was freaking Howard.
Speaker 3: I remember he didn't write that. You got to remember
Speaker 3: these things, like Fred.
Speaker 2: Okay, but this is me the listener, Okay, so dedicated
Speaker 2: to the show that I.
Speaker 1: Drove way out of my way to go to go
Speaker 1: to Legend Porsche.
Speaker 2: AUTI Sob Sterling to buy a freaking SOB from Fat
Speaker 2: Wayne Seagulls.
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, I bought my bought sab from Fat Wayne Seagull.
Speaker 3: You did.
Speaker 1: I didn't know that, And I was at the time.
Speaker 2: I was living in an autful center and there was
Speaker 2: a there was a SOB dealership in the Five Towns.
Speaker 1: Not far away.
Speaker 2: But instead I drove all the way to Amityville to
Speaker 2: go see Fat Wayne Seagull and buy my SOB from
Speaker 2: Legend Porscha OUTI sob Sterling And I don't know when
Speaker 2: the last sterling was sold in the United Fates, but
Speaker 2: I still the ad was. I mean, he was such
Speaker 2: a part of the show, and Howard was the master
Speaker 2: of that, and he had to do that because what
Speaker 2: happened is the establishment put so much pressure on Infinity and.
Speaker 1: On Howard and media matter.
Speaker 2: This is really the birth of going after someone and
Speaker 2: getting their advertisers to pull support. So no national advertisers,
Speaker 2: none of the big fortune five hundred companies that would
Speaker 2: buy advertising on music stations over the country or news
Speaker 2: station of the country would buy into Howard's show. They
Speaker 2: were put into a political corner. And you know, to
Speaker 2: buy ads on Howard show is to support all of
Speaker 2: the subversive things coming out of his mouth every single day.
Speaker 2: And so all these blue chip advertisers stayed away from
Speaker 2: the show.
Speaker 1: So as a radio station.
Speaker 2: Running the Stern Show, he was both your greatest asset
Speaker 2: delivering these huge ratings and your greatest liability. Because none
Speaker 2: of the big national advertisers would support the show. So
Speaker 2: Howard learned that what he needed to do was make
Speaker 2: these local and regional advertisers a huge part of not
Speaker 2: treat them like, hey, here's you just run a thirty
Speaker 2: second ad here and that.
Speaker 1: No, no, no, I'm gonna bring you into the show.
Speaker 1: I'm gonna make you a star exactly.
Speaker 2: I'm gonna bring people through your doorway because they want
Speaker 2: to see you, fat Wayne Seagull. And I'm gonna do
Speaker 2: it so well that a president of the largest radio
Speaker 2: advertising sales company in the country is going to drive
Speaker 2: fifteen miles out of his way to get a stupid
Speaker 2: SOB from you.
Speaker 3: How brilliant he was. It was a pied piper in
Speaker 3: a lot of ways. We all listen to him every day.
Speaker 3: But here's the thing. You know the business than I
Speaker 3: do one hundred million dollars a year for five years,
Speaker 3: contracts coming up in all September, October, early fall. They're
Speaker 3: not going to do it again. And he's too proud
Speaker 3: to take a reduction in salary if that's what they
Speaker 3: want to do, if they not get down to fifty mili,
Speaker 3: I don't think they'd even do that. I don't think
Speaker 3: he's accepted.
Speaker 1: Look, look it's first all you got to you got
Speaker 1: a public company.
Speaker 2: H But the data is pretty opaque. It's hard to
Speaker 2: I knew when he went a ridge. I remember where
Speaker 2: I was when I heard it was happening. I was
Speaker 2: in San Diego at an industry event when the announcement
Speaker 2: came out. And and remember, well people probably wouldn't know this,
Speaker 2: that that Sirius and XM were separate companies.
Speaker 1: Competing against each other.
Speaker 2: Serious was in desperate financial straits and going to go
Speaker 2: under if the companies didn't merge. Melk Harmizan left and
Speaker 2: went to be the CEO of Serious, and so he
Speaker 2: made the merger happen. And he brought his Oh but
Speaker 2: and and think of the sales pitch Howard, all the
Speaker 2: stuff you're not allowed to say. No, you can say
Speaker 2: this is satellite, these are subscribers.
Speaker 1: People are only there because they paid to be there.
Speaker 1: You can f bomb it all day, you can sex
Speaker 1: in the studio, whatever the hell anything goes, just.
Speaker 2: China, remember, And I could when I was doing We'll
Speaker 2: come over it at some point during the show.
Speaker 1: But Simeon.
Speaker 3: Symbian amazing heart imagine and I'm there in person watching
Speaker 3: this seven o'clock in the morning. There was I'll make
Speaker 3: it Quick. There was a pair of sisters who came
Speaker 3: on the show and got nude and made out, and
Speaker 3: it was like seven fifteen in the morning. We were
Speaker 3: looking at each other like, what the fuck is going
Speaker 3: on here? But I think that when he be when
Speaker 3: he went to Serious, when I emerged and he got
Speaker 3: a show, I feel like when they the cursing took
Speaker 3: something out of the show because it wasn't just Howard.
Speaker 3: You had all these other guys at the Whackpack who
Speaker 3: could now curse and get a little more derogatory, and
Speaker 3: that began to I began to lose lose it back then, because,
Speaker 3: like I said, these guys in the whack pack, I
Speaker 3: mean Fred the Elephant Boy, but reefrom Brooklyn. There's so
Speaker 3: many crazy lunatics out there. They're all losers, and I
Speaker 3: don't want to hear losers curse all day and tell
Speaker 3: their stupid loser stories. So that was the beginning of
Speaker 3: me going on top of that, I got a pay
Speaker 3: to listen to it. Now I'm not doing this, and
Speaker 3: I walked away. Really yeah, you know, I heard maybe
Speaker 3: maybe twenty shows on Serious before I said I'm not
Speaker 3: doing this doesn't work for me, doesn't want I hung
Speaker 3: for a while, Yeah, yeah, I.
Speaker 1: Hung until he changed.
Speaker 3: Well, you're in the business. I mean, if you want,
Speaker 3: you got it. It's nice to you know who's who's
Speaker 3: doing a lot, who's saying, well, who's making what? But
Speaker 3: if my theory is, and I know it's separate from
Speaker 3: the contract issue, but I heard, I reported a few
Speaker 3: weeks ago that I heard Robin's cancer is back, and
Speaker 3: you know, she almost died the first time she had it.
Speaker 3: And he said publicly that if Robin had passed away,
Speaker 3: he would never do a radio show again. He wouldn't
Speaker 3: do a show without Robin. So part of me thinks
Speaker 3: that Palla's really not caring too much about this contract thing.
Speaker 3: I think, if this is true, he's knowing that, Look,
Speaker 3: if she's sick, the gigs up. I'm not going to
Speaker 3: keep doing the show. I've done it in a long time,
Speaker 3: you know, fifty years on radio, whatever it is. So
Speaker 3: it's in between all those all those idea, it's in
Speaker 3: between all those extension. I can't imagine a serious making money.
Speaker 3: Is that a profitable show? A hundred?
Speaker 1: Not a chance?
Speaker 3: And it takes a whole summer.
Speaker 1: Not a chance in hell. So look the from a
Speaker 1: business standpoint, he's dead. He's dead.
Speaker 2: The audience is a fraction of a fraction of a
Speaker 2: fraction of what it once was. And and he knows
Speaker 2: that and what paid off for them or in the
Speaker 2: early years of that agreement, because again you had two
Speaker 2: struggling companies coming together and he was the he was
Speaker 2: the announcement that fueled the growth and and and you know,
Speaker 2: made Serious XM a player, and he was compensated heavily
Speaker 2: and stock options.
Speaker 1: There's no telling how much money that the guy has
Speaker 1: right now.
Speaker 2: But what he doesn't have in this life he now
Speaker 2: lives is popularity.
Speaker 1: He doesn't have an.
Speaker 2: Audience like the audience he once had, and he's so
Speaker 2: So I heard a story that I don't have details on,
Speaker 2: but but I know that he was good friends with
Speaker 2: Matt Lower. Yeah, there's a there's a whole group of
Speaker 2: folks out in the Hampton that spend tons of times
Speaker 2: in the Hamptons that all kind of hang out together,
Speaker 2: go to each other's parties and all of that, and
Speaker 2: he was friendly with Matt and that what I heard
Speaker 2: was that when the when Matt got me too. That
Speaker 2: whole story got out there. He got fired by NBC
Speaker 2: and everything else that Howard did more than just abandon
Speaker 2: him as a friend, did some really bad shit to.
Speaker 1: Him as well. Why because he's a fucking asshole. I
Speaker 1: mean he is.
Speaker 2: He this has become his his life, kissing celebrities, asses,
Speaker 2: taking on liberal political trends. He's gone, you know, he's gone,
Speaker 2: and he's not he's not marketable. So the smartest thing
Speaker 2: he could do is just go. He's It's not like
Speaker 2: he's in a position where you know, if you're Megan
Speaker 2: Kelly and you get and you get fired, but you
Speaker 2: know you still have your journalistic chops. You know you'll
Speaker 2: still put the work in. You know you still have
Speaker 2: a following, you know you still look good. You can
Speaker 2: you know that you can uh that you can use
Speaker 2: digital media to build it back and and have a business.
Speaker 2: Sterne could never do that.
Speaker 3: He can't.
Speaker 1: He can't.
Speaker 3: He can't, and so you can't. He can't. He can't
Speaker 3: at a podcast that be ridiculous?
Speaker 1: Would would somebody?
Speaker 2: He is a great interviewer people in Hollywood. If somebody,
Speaker 2: if he wanted to work and somebody wanted to set
Speaker 2: him up in that kind of thing.
Speaker 1: It could get done, but it's just such a far
Speaker 1: cry from who he once wash is from an ego standpoint.
Speaker 1: Does he really want to do that? He doesn't need
Speaker 1: a dime?
Speaker 3: No, I know, But it's like Letterman. I enjoy Letterman
Speaker 3: Show my next guest on Netflix. I enjoy that show
Speaker 3: because you get to see a guest for an hour,
Speaker 3: you know, not just eight minutes on TV and promoting.
Speaker 3: I like it. I liked it, But my point was
Speaker 3: about I was gonna make was once you once you
Speaker 3: begin to dip your toe in the waters of Los Angeles,
Speaker 3: and as Howard began to do, as I did it
Speaker 3: all even go as far as say Bill Ariiley. Once
Speaker 3: you lose that edge and you get seduced by people
Speaker 3: in Hollywood and you like to swim in their pool,
Speaker 3: you like going to dinner with them. They're beautiful people.
Speaker 3: I'm in the in crowd. This is great, and you
Speaker 3: lose an edge. Ol Riley lost an edge. Howard certainly did.
Speaker 3: I did. I got it back now. But that's what
Speaker 3: something like LA can do to you. It really can
Speaker 3: seduce you with to becoming softer and not to get
Speaker 3: the celebrities upset.
Speaker 2: Yes, it absolutely can. But which one was the real Howard?
Speaker 2: Was the real Howard the guy we heard on the
Speaker 2: radio all those years, or is the real Howard the
Speaker 2: guy now?
Speaker 3: Which is the guy now? I think it's the guy
Speaker 3: now because I think that he's so committed to this
Speaker 3: personality that I don't think he even thinks about the
Speaker 3: old shows and the old Howard. I think he's completely
Speaker 3: wiped that guy out. No, he's gone, He's deleted that
Speaker 3: guy from his head. And now he's this soft, woke
Speaker 3: asshole that doesn't have the goods anymore, and no one's
Speaker 3: running to hear the show. And like I said, we
Speaker 3: are aging out. The younger kids coming up up the highway.
Speaker 3: They don't know his old stuff. They really can't. They
Speaker 3: weren't there for it. So with us all getting older
Speaker 3: and him getting softer and weaker. But I wouldn't mind
Speaker 3: seeing him do a Charlie Rose type show. He'd be
Speaker 3: great at that. But I don't think he wants to
Speaker 3: work like that. I don't think. I just think he
Speaker 3: wants to disappear, go take care of stray cats, clean
Speaker 3: up the beach with Beth, you know, stay inside. He's
Speaker 3: a shut in He's like, Howard, use.
Speaker 1: That's what he should do though, Yeah, that's what if
Speaker 1: he's not he could either do a long form interview show.
Speaker 2: On you named him platform. He could do it, yeah,
Speaker 2: or it's time to go. But there's there's no way
Speaker 2: to do a show like anything he's been doing and
Speaker 2: and and have it be worthwhile for somebody like him,
Speaker 2: because he can't generate a fraction of the revenues.
Speaker 3: To try to imagine this, go back twenty years ago,
Speaker 3: Howld's on top of the world, killing it. Joe Rogan
Speaker 3: is a comic slash sitcom actor and then you know
Speaker 3: what's the show he did? You know, the reality show?
Speaker 1: Yet behind I know you have to eat this stuff.
Speaker 3: Okay, that's wrong of me either way, you know. Okay,
Speaker 3: imagine if anybody could see the future and think, well,
Speaker 3: that guy on that Fear Factor, that Fear Factor host
Speaker 3: has a lot to give. I bet he might be
Speaker 3: the most important broadcaster or podcaster in the country one
Speaker 3: day and Howard's gonna sink down. Twenty years ago, that's
Speaker 3: where we were. Rogan was hosting Fear Factor and Howard
Speaker 3: was on top of the world. And now it's completely reversed.
Speaker 3: And that model that he that he's done for years
Speaker 3: that can't be recreated. You just can't find You just
Speaker 3: can't find people like that anymore to sit around you.
Speaker 2: And you know, no, well, look, you had back in
Speaker 2: the day, ninety eight percent of the population was listening
Speaker 2: to radio on a weekly basis, and you know, he
Speaker 2: was getting twenty percent shares of the male demographics, the
Speaker 2: younger male demographics in those markets. He had millions and
Speaker 2: millions and millions of people nationwide hanging on his every word.
Speaker 2: And you know what, what has happened with technology and
Speaker 2: people's desire for choice, control and customization is there? There
Speaker 2: is no mass media like that anymore. There's no medium.
Speaker 1: That can provide you that kind of exposure.
Speaker 2: It is all about the individual content creator and.
Speaker 1: How they use all the things.
Speaker 2: Available to them to build an audience and what they
Speaker 2: can possibly generate off of it. And he doesn't. He
Speaker 2: doesn't have what it takes to do that anymore. And
Speaker 2: so it's time to go.
Speaker 3: And if you think of it, I was thinking about
Speaker 3: this the other day, since I spent so much time
Speaker 3: with him, then I do what I do now. And
Speaker 3: if you go back in time, how would have his father, on,
Speaker 3: his mother on He would tell inside stories about Alison
Speaker 3: all the time. He brought his family up constantly, And
Speaker 3: I wonder if that's what made me do this now,
Speaker 3: I wonder if that subplace in the back of my
Speaker 3: head that I store that and say, oh, actually, I
Speaker 3: think I did because I wanted my talk show to
Speaker 3: have my family in it, and I was making moves
Speaker 3: to make that happen before I got canceled. So he
Speaker 3: had such an effect on me that.
Speaker 2: You absolutely did because you realize as a fan of
Speaker 2: the show first how it humanized him and it drew
Speaker 2: you because you had.
Speaker 1: A friendship with him before you actually had a friendship
Speaker 1: with him, right, because we all felt like, yeah, we
Speaker 1: had a friendship with him. That's what he did. He made.
Speaker 2: Mass media over the air broadcasting as intimate back in
Speaker 2: the day, as a medium like podcast makes uh it
Speaker 2: does today.
Speaker 1: But he did it. He did it.
Speaker 2: Wait, look, he it was unbelievably innovative, it was anti establishment,
Speaker 2: it was the timing was absolutely right for it.
Speaker 3: And but somebody wanted seventy one is too young to
Speaker 3: hang it up. He's got all those marbles. I mean,
Speaker 3: let's say he's nuts but he's got all those marbles.
Speaker 3: He could do these shows standing on his head. So
Speaker 3: it's too young seventy one to walk away, but I
Speaker 3: think he will. And if it's about Robin, then I
Speaker 3: know he will. If it's not the contract and the money,
Speaker 3: he's gonna walk away. They keep saying he's gotten canceled.
Speaker 3: He's getting canceled. They're not really canceling, and they're not
Speaker 3: They're gonna have a talk about the coat.
Speaker 2: They're not gonna they're not gonna renew the contract, right,
Speaker 2: they'll they'll probably do something where they they either either
Speaker 2: he'll retain and build a business around or have somebody
Speaker 2: build a business around his archive for him, or they
Speaker 2: will acquire or the archives so that they can do
Speaker 2: certain things.
Speaker 1: But but the value is pennies on the dollar to
Speaker 1: what it to what it once was, because the stuff
Speaker 1: that's valuable is the stuff he doesn't want out there. No,
Speaker 1: it's this, you know, we would I would.
Speaker 2: I would spend a weekend on a couch watching best
Speaker 2: of back from the from the nineties.
Speaker 1: Yes, if something like that was available, but it's.
Speaker 3: The best I'm not gonna would, I would say with
Speaker 3: Joey on a weekend night in Long Island, having some
Speaker 3: cocktails and just watching Sternshell over and over, just laughing
Speaker 3: on balls off. And you know, I don't know why
Speaker 3: he can't stay funny forever. All of our comics stayed
Speaker 3: funny forever. I don't know a comic that was funny
Speaker 3: for years and suddenly got shitty and walk and just decided.
Speaker 1: To Bill Burr.
Speaker 3: Yeah, that's good. That's a good point he got.
Speaker 1: But he was he was never that fun, that fake.
Speaker 3: But I agree, Bill Burr gots all my nerves. I
Speaker 3: never really loved to begin with. But now he's just
Speaker 3: what I mean. But now too much, it's too much.
Speaker 3: I know he is, I know. But these guys, all
Speaker 3: these guys now changing the subject a little bit, they
Speaker 3: all are not all of them. Many of them are
Speaker 3: mediocre comics. Mediocre Joe Rogan is a mediocre comic. He's
Speaker 3: not a guy you left your balls off with. He's
Speaker 3: not Louis c k or Dave Chappelle. No, So, just
Speaker 3: do I hate that this is happening. It's gonna there's
Speaker 3: gonna be so many books, so many documentaries that are
Speaker 3: gonna come out soon. Gary's gonna write a book, maybe
Speaker 3: Fred Will Robin might. I mean, there could be so
Speaker 3: much more. We don't know that we're gonna find out,
Speaker 3: to really see what it was like in that inner
Speaker 3: sanctum of that studio, because I know he was like
Speaker 3: a little kid. But I also was there many times
Speaker 3: when he would scream during a commercial break that he
Speaker 3: was quitting, like get so and so on the phone.
Speaker 3: I forget the GM's name, get him on, get him
Speaker 3: up here, get him up here. The guy that told
Speaker 3: me I had to leave the room. I forget his
Speaker 3: name though, Jeff, Jeff something maybe anyhow, he just, uh,
Speaker 3: it was so much. But he kept saying I'm gonna quit,
Speaker 3: I'm done, I'm done, and he meant that. So he's
Speaker 3: been having this. He's been like always like this with
Speaker 3: his job. It's not a place he enjoys to go to,
Speaker 3: I don't. I mean, he records out of his house
Speaker 3: most of the time. Now that's all different, it's all different.
Speaker 3: It's just that's a shame. He was. He was so great.
Speaker 2: Yeah, look those if some of those guys are going
Speaker 2: to write books about what it was like on the
Speaker 2: inside back in the old days, they will or what
Speaker 2: happened when Howard turned with all the I'd read those,
Speaker 2: I'd love to read those.
Speaker 3: It's gonna be a industry of those.
Speaker 2: Oh, let's talk about let's talk about. Here's something that
Speaker 2: if this had occurred back in the day. Okay, if
Speaker 2: there were a WNBA in nineteen eighty nine, Howard Stern
Speaker 2: would have been the one to create the green dildos
Speaker 2: and have people throwing him on the court across the country.
Speaker 1: That's he would have been doing right then.
Speaker 3: Started he was dressed as a dill dolt to sit
Speaker 3: in the arena Isaac, anything to mock that league. He loved.
Speaker 3: He would love taking down people like that. Of course,
Speaker 3: you won't touch it. He would never say a word
Speaker 3: about it. Probably think it's a great basketball.
Speaker 2: Yeah, well he probably he'd probably talk down about what's
Speaker 2: going on and that it's disgraceful that misogyny and everything
Speaker 2: else that people are that people are doing this just
Speaker 2: throw Biden a.
Speaker 3: Few months ago. You have a wonderful family. I love
Speaker 3: that you're leading this country. I mean, you have a
Speaker 3: wonderful family. Well let's look, well, losing your mind. Where
Speaker 3: was the Howard who was gonna make fun of them
Speaker 3: tripping and falling and forgetting where he's walking. We needed
Speaker 3: to hear that guy, not I love your family's amazing,
Speaker 3: great people.
Speaker 1: My god, there was so much material there that went
Speaker 1: to went to waste.
Speaker 5: Yep.
Speaker 2: And and because it became because it became untouchable, you know,
Speaker 2: comedians really couldn't go after it the way that they
Speaker 2: they should have.
Speaker 1: I mean some guys did, but not.
Speaker 3: But that was the point I was gonna make. Now
Speaker 3: I'm back on track. There's there's so many mediocre comics
Speaker 3: out there making a fortune. Stand up comedy has grown
Speaker 3: so big, and now with these podcasts, they're making so
Speaker 3: much money for advertising and Patreon that you don't even
Speaker 3: have to be that funny, just as long as you
Speaker 3: have a crowd that follows you, like a Bobby Lee,
Speaker 3: who is okay, I don't really get it. There's a
Speaker 3: lot of guys that are mid level like Rogan, but
Speaker 3: Rogan figured out, Okay, I'm gonna talk about a lot
Speaker 3: of things with a lot of people, Navy seal scientists, athletes.
Speaker 1: He Rogan's got. Rogan's got a great curiosity. He does
Speaker 1: got He's got a he's.
Speaker 2: Got a great curiosity. He's got a really good way
Speaker 2: about him people like him. Timing was important. He went
Speaker 2: after it the right way. Uh, you know, he deserves
Speaker 2: his his success. It all came about the right way, authentically.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 2: But I think the Green dialdo is an interesting following Stern.
Speaker 2: I think it's an interesting topic because this that where
Speaker 2: are the This has happened three times now.
Speaker 1: It could it could easily be happening.
Speaker 2: Everywhere every night, Yeah, three times multiple if the right
Speaker 2: people were behind it. I don't totally get it, Like,
Speaker 2: what is what is the joke? What's the reason why
Speaker 2: we're doing this?
Speaker 3: So why throw it? I mean they're into girls, many
Speaker 3: of them are into girls, lesbians, So I don't know.
Speaker 3: Dildo I mean I guess it works. I mean they
Speaker 3: used dildos on each other. Was strap ons, that'd be
Speaker 3: more accurate. Throw a strap on on the court. But
Speaker 3: it's gonna get to a point you called it. It's
Speaker 3: like the Holland Globe Trotters. This league is like the
Speaker 3: column Globe Trotters against the Washington Senators. It's such a farce,
Speaker 3: and yet it's on the news every fucking day. They're
Speaker 3: gonna they should open up sex shops in these arenas
Speaker 3: to save people in trouble and hustling at bildo and
Speaker 3: just go up and get one an intermission and toss
Speaker 3: it on the court. Well, build a giveaway.
Speaker 2: Night, Cosmic Power, the magazine said, Cosmic the reason this
Speaker 2: is happening is to send a message that women don't
Speaker 2: belong in the court and that their athleticism isn't as
Speaker 2: valuable as their sexuality. That's the that's the well.
Speaker 3: I don't think it isn't as valuable as a sexuality.
Speaker 3: I don't see many sexual girls playing out there. They're
Speaker 3: not not my type. There's just a handful of them,
Speaker 3: But the most ones I see are like tough, kind
Speaker 3: of dykish girls who play the game hard. Look, they're
Speaker 3: they're very athletic. They've they're great at even Angel Reese,
Speaker 3: so I can't stand. She's got a lot of great stuff,
Speaker 3: she just can't hit a layup. Once she learns to
Speaker 3: hit a layups, she's gonna be a force because she's
Speaker 3: big and strong.
Speaker 2: It's that's what they were saying about her when she
Speaker 2: was eight years old. Play Yes, she just said, learn
Speaker 2: how to make a layups.
Speaker 3: So embarrassing. But if it's culture with you, just get
Speaker 3: Cheryl Miller down there. Get someone teach her how to
Speaker 3: hit that. If she hits statue's gonna squad twenty eight
Speaker 3: points a game and get twenty rebounds a game.
Speaker 2: A good freshman high school team beats any team in
Speaker 2: that way. It's the dumbest thing I know in history.
Speaker 2: I know it's a thing, So keep throwing dildos, but
Speaker 2: but I think there should be something.
Speaker 1: Better than dildo's to throw.
Speaker 2: Because you're right, I don't know what the percentage is,
Speaker 2: it's a very high percentage of the league that's gay.
Speaker 3: Strap on is more accurate. They peg each other with
Speaker 3: the strap one a bit a pillow with a bike
Speaker 3: taken out of it. I don't know, a part of
Speaker 3: a rug with a bike taken out of it. You
Speaker 3: can get creative if you want, well, rugmunture.
Speaker 1: I don't know. People should, People should find more entertaining.
Speaker 3: Change the teams. Let's let's have the Indiana the Indiana
Speaker 3: ros Munchers play the Baltimore Pegs. Just keep the sexuality
Speaker 3: in there and literally get more popular. It's so embarrassing
Speaker 3: that we that they wanted to think this.
Speaker 1: Is really I think you're onto something there.
Speaker 2: I think I don't know if we mean what the yeah,
Speaker 2: medium actually did that.
Speaker 3: Meet it head on, meet it, meet it head on.
Speaker 2: If the Indiana Fever came out, you know, even if
Speaker 2: they just had rug munch night and just came out
Speaker 2: as the rug Munschters for that one night, they would
Speaker 2: they would fucking sell out.
Speaker 1: It'd be awesome. They should do that.
Speaker 3: We're gonna do shirts skins, maybe a shirt skins game.
Speaker 1: I don't think well, I don't think that'll be.
Speaker 3: No, it'll be happening, But just trying to get ideas
Speaker 3: of what could make the league get bigger. But they
Speaker 3: want more money. They want more money. One girl said
Speaker 3: the jandler. The chandler earned more more than her. The
Speaker 3: joandler in the arena was getting paid more than she
Speaker 3: was to be on the team. I forget the player,
Speaker 3: but I'm sure that's true.
Speaker 2: Well, I think that same janitor switching topics will probably
Speaker 2: earn more money than Kamala Harris will from her book.
Speaker 3: Oh this woman, you know that's all. First of all,
Speaker 3: she didn't write it. She she had ghostwriters. Of course,
Speaker 3: this has been You don't write a book that quickly
Speaker 3: when you lose, and now you're six months out and
Speaker 3: your book is done now she had this is this
Speaker 3: is being done a year ago and it's going to
Speaker 3: come out in September. Right, I think I saw the
Speaker 3: ads for it. She does it on TV with that
Speaker 3: stupid holding the book. It's not even the book. The
Speaker 3: book's not out yet, but you have to wrap her
Speaker 3: run another book and she's speaking about she still can't speak, right,
Speaker 3: she still looks like she's reading. Well, she was reading,
Speaker 3: not knowing how to promote her book.
Speaker 2: No, the Colebet interview, which was it was awful, is
Speaker 2: every bit as bad as everything else.
Speaker 3: Well, she can't she do She cannot run for governor.
Speaker 3: I don't think she can run for office.
Speaker 1: If she would have run for government, she would have
Speaker 1: won two and not even close.
Speaker 2: She would have won hands down. If she would have
Speaker 2: if she wanted to run, she would have won hands them.
Speaker 3: I agree, Gavin, there's some they much rather have a
Speaker 3: black woman than they have breath of a new heir
Speaker 3: than old Gavin, who keeps doing the same.
Speaker 2: There's no Republican apparatus in the state, damn automatically wins.
Speaker 1: She would have won if she would have done that.
Speaker 1: But she's not doing that.
Speaker 3: She's not been elected to anything. In her life.
Speaker 1: Correct, Well, I guess she won the Did she win
Speaker 1: the smarrace?
Speaker 3: I don't. I don't know.
Speaker 2: I think she might have won the same race, although
Speaker 2: again it's there's no Republican apparatus in the state.
Speaker 1: There's no one that's going to be able to beat her.
Speaker 3: I see her getting a job at a big law
Speaker 3: firm and just kind of slicking away. No one looks
Speaker 3: to her at the Democrat Party and thinks she's our's
Speaker 3: a future leader.
Speaker 1: Here's here's my prediction.
Speaker 2: So you look at one hundred and seven days as
Speaker 2: the title.
Speaker 1: Of the book.
Speaker 3: Horrible title, by the way, horrible title.
Speaker 1: Well, but it's an excuse for not winning.
Speaker 3: That's a good point. It's a good point.
Speaker 2: I only had one hundred and seven days. If I'd
Speaker 2: had more, would I would have won? Right, So it's
Speaker 2: an excuse. I'm not running for governor, which I could win.
Speaker 1: I'm not doing that.
Speaker 2: So teasing that she's gonna run in twenty eight, even
Speaker 2: though she said all this other shit.
Speaker 1: Now, if.
Speaker 2: Dem donors got together, they would pay her a fortune
Speaker 2: not to run. They pay her a fortune not to run.
Speaker 2: She's not this smart, but maybe someone around her is smart.
Speaker 2: Enough to say you need to scare the party into
Speaker 2: thinking you're going to run, so they pay you to
Speaker 2: go away. Let's face it, you don't even want to
Speaker 2: be a lawyer in some firm because you're not even
Speaker 2: competent to do that.
Speaker 1: But they can't take you on. They can't.
Speaker 2: They can't take you on as as.
Speaker 1: An African American woman, they can't take you on.
Speaker 3: And so.
Speaker 2: Newsome doesn't have a clear path unless you get out
Speaker 2: of the way. And they want Newsom to have the
Speaker 2: clear path. You can't have another second person from California
Speaker 2: splitting that California vote and everything else.
Speaker 1: They got to get her to go away.
Speaker 2: And so if maybe she has some really smart people
Speaker 2: with her that are like, come out of the bove
Speaker 2: one hundred and seven days, it's your excuse for for
Speaker 2: why it didn't happen.
Speaker 1: Don't run for Calli governor. Now they're going to be
Speaker 1: really scared.
Speaker 2: You're running in twenty eight and somebody's going to pay
Speaker 2: you a bloody fortune to just sit on your ass
Speaker 2: and do nothing. And let's face it, that's pretty much
Speaker 2: what you're qualified to do. So that's my prediction, that's
Speaker 2: what that's what happens.
Speaker 3: I like, I like what you said about the excuse
Speaker 3: for not winning. I like, I didn't think about that.
Speaker 3: That's good, that's her excuse. I only have this my days.
Speaker 3: I didn't have a lot of time. But you had
Speaker 3: a billion. You had more money than Trump, you had
Speaker 3: more money than Republicans. You had a billion dollars and
Speaker 3: you blew it and you were what a farce?
Speaker 1: Did you see what what Barstools did?
Speaker 3: No, it's hard.
Speaker 1: So you know how my sons are totally into this.
Speaker 2: You join these fantasy football leagues and now it's less
Speaker 2: about winning the league and all about not being the
Speaker 2: guy who loses the league. Because there's an insane punishment
Speaker 2: for the guy.
Speaker 1: Who loses the league.
Speaker 2: So if you come in last in your fantasy league,
Speaker 2: like my son had one last year at TCU, or
Speaker 2: the guy who lost had to streak across campus.
Speaker 1: I mean, you have to do these that's ridiculous things.
Speaker 2: Well one of the leagues, I don't know how many
Speaker 2: leagues Barstools has.
Speaker 1: If you lose, you have to lock.
Speaker 2: Yourself in a room and and you can't come out
Speaker 2: until you read the entire Kamala Harris book.
Speaker 1: And then then you have to.
Speaker 2: Pass a test on questions from the book to prove
Speaker 2: you actually read it, and if you don't pass, you
Speaker 2: go back in the room until you read the book again.
Speaker 2: I thought that was a great that's a great punishment for.
Speaker 3: I couldn't imagine reading that whole book and then being
Speaker 3: tested on it. That is torture.
Speaker 1: It's torture, absolutely.
Speaker 2: That's why it's the punishment for coming in last in
Speaker 2: the league.
Speaker 3: Well, it's not as bad. It's not as good as
Speaker 3: kidnapping Asian kids and Vanderbilt.
Speaker 1: And uh I tell that story on the show, say that.
Speaker 3: The best ever Versity and your fraternity? What was your fraternity?
Speaker 1: Pike ka pi cap alpha pi cap alpha.
Speaker 3: So tell tell the folk, Well, this is way way
Speaker 3: back in the of course.
Speaker 2: We would we would have this. We'd have a big
Speaker 2: party every weekend. But we had this party we would
Speaker 2: throw called pan pen Pike. We would celebrate and part
Speaker 2: of the part of the event was we would go
Speaker 2: through the freshman register. We had all these pictures of
Speaker 2: freshmen and you would find Asian freshmen and you would
Speaker 2: take pledges for chorney pledges, and you would assign them
Speaker 2: different Asian freshmen to come bring to the house as hostages.
Speaker 1: For the night.
Speaker 3: But it.
Speaker 5: Over the over the over the years, over the years,
Speaker 5: it sort of flipped on its head to where it
Speaker 5: became an honor to.
Speaker 1: Be sought to be a hostage for the night.
Speaker 2: So so when people would come to your room to
Speaker 2: get you, it wasn't this you know, demeaning, horrible thing.
Speaker 2: It was kind of the Pikes want me to be
Speaker 2: one of their hostages to night for the okay, great, uh,
Speaker 2: And we'd bring them to the house and and uh
Speaker 2: they would.
Speaker 1: Be hostages for the evening. For the entire part.
Speaker 2: We drank which agent orange punch is what we do.
Speaker 2: We would we would mix orange tang with UH with
Speaker 2: PGA with pure grain alcohol.
Speaker 1: It was brutal, I mean it was. It was bad.
Speaker 1: Two cups of this stuff and you're gone, and.
Speaker 2: We would by the end of the night we would
Speaker 2: be You would run, you'd dive in the air.
Speaker 1: Guys would grab your legs as you're going up and
Speaker 1: they would dunk you. We we had huge vats of
Speaker 1: this stuff.
Speaker 2: They would dunk you in and hold you down in
Speaker 2: it until you tapped out and you'd come back and
Speaker 2: you just gulp the.
Speaker 1: Stuff from from in the thing.
Speaker 2: And uh yeah, I'm surprised more more guys didn't get.
Speaker 3: Like we're doing for apples, no matter how disgusting that was,
Speaker 3: bobbing for apples and we were kids, But.
Speaker 1: The amount of the amount of truly dangerous stupid ship
Speaker 1: we did back in the day, I mean, understand why
Speaker 1: they can't do it anymore, but god, it was it
Speaker 1: was so much fun.
Speaker 3: I mean it was fun.
Speaker 5: It was.
Speaker 3: It's good. It's a good cleaning college kid fun. That's
Speaker 3: what college is for, especially if you're living away and
Speaker 3: you're with a fraternity. Of course, of course, but I
Speaker 3: didn't know if the if the Asian kids knew they
Speaker 3: were being hunted, Did they know the week or they
Speaker 3: just hunt?
Speaker 1: It is probably the harsh what if you want to.
Speaker 3: Go take the hostage. Did they know this was going on?
Speaker 3: Did they know what week it was? Or it just
Speaker 3: sprung on them?
Speaker 1: I think that.
Speaker 2: I think that word with travel and uh you know,
Speaker 2: and and chances are that if you're a freshman, an
Speaker 2: Asian freshman, you have one or two of our pledges
Speaker 2: on your floor because they're spread all over. You're pulling
Speaker 2: from every dormitory for your pledge class and so they
Speaker 2: probably mentioned, you know that this is going on this
Speaker 2: particular weekend, and so but you know, if it happens
Speaker 2: to you, it's you know, it's an honor to actually
Speaker 2: be there.
Speaker 1: You know, there are tons of Asians not being.
Speaker 2: Requested to come over to to the party that night,
Speaker 2: blah blah blah.
Speaker 3: So so so we weren't just horrible people kidnapping as
Speaker 3: we did.
Speaker 1: We did some stuff.
Speaker 2: I hated the fraternity house next to us, the Sigma
Speaker 2: News the Nubs, which I know is Sigma News. Good
Speaker 2: fraternity in a lot of places that at Vandy. I
Speaker 2: apologize to any Vandy Sigma News from my ear that
Speaker 2: may be.
Speaker 1: But they were, they were. They were the biggest nerds.
Speaker 2: And every every one of the fat houses, all the
Speaker 2: all the guys would double and triple park behind the
Speaker 2: house because you had very limited parking on campus. You
Speaker 2: didn't have real parking lot behind the house. You had
Speaker 2: whatever was originally a backyard, and everybody just started parking
Speaker 2: on and so we'd have a keyboard in the house
Speaker 2: where everybody would leave their keys, because if your car
Speaker 2: got blocked in by two guys, you need to get
Speaker 2: a couple of pledges to back out so you could
Speaker 2: back out.
Speaker 1: It was.
Speaker 2: It was a mess, but it was better than better
Speaker 2: than getting tickets everywhere. And I forget what the Nubs
Speaker 2: had done, but they pissed me off, and so I
Speaker 2: made a bunch of pledges go over to their parking
Speaker 2: lot at two o'clock in the morning and get and
Speaker 2: unscrew all the license plates from.
Speaker 3: All the card.
Speaker 2: And then we went out to this golf course like
Speaker 2: five miles away from campus and buried all of the
Speaker 2: license plates and.
Speaker 1: The spot and then made a treasure map.
Speaker 2: With clues and left and left the fucking clues at
Speaker 2: the at the Nub.
Speaker 3: House with top notch college in America was going on
Speaker 3: with no attribution that it was that it was, so
Speaker 3: they didn't know.
Speaker 2: They highly suspected, probably highly suspected me, but highly suspected
Speaker 2: it was it was our house that was that was
Speaker 2: doing this. But we had them going for three or
Speaker 2: four days on because they'd have to.
Speaker 1: Call in for the next clue. And I mean, we
Speaker 1: just put them through hell.
Speaker 2: And what were they gonna do. They call campus police,
Speaker 2: the campus place, They come to our door and go,
Speaker 2: you know, are you involved in the in the license
Speaker 2: plate caper.
Speaker 1: What are you talking about. I mean, we did ship
Speaker 1: like that all the freaking time.
Speaker 3: That's why high school was better for me because I
Speaker 3: didn't I commuted to college. I didn't live on campus,
Speaker 3: so my fund was limited in college. But when I
Speaker 3: began to do theater. When I mined in theater, one
Speaker 3: of the wackiest things we did was I was in
Speaker 3: a play called The Indian Wantster Bronx. Al Pacino did
Speaker 3: it on Off Broadway in Broadway when he was very young,
Speaker 3: and I had his role. And it's set in the
Speaker 3: street in New York City, so we needed ambient sound
Speaker 3: of New York. So we had to tape New York
Speaker 3: traffic and sirens and ambulances and whistles and shit. That
Speaker 3: played in the theater. But we needed a phone booth because
Speaker 3: the phone booth was an integral part of that play.
Speaker 3: This Indian guy was calling to first Sun. How do
Speaker 3: you get a phone booth? We went out. We took
Speaker 3: this big sculptor, his name was Michael Angelo, believe or not,
Speaker 3: and we took his truck into Manhattan and we found
Speaker 3: I don't know how we found it, maybe somebody kept
Speaker 3: us off. There was a glass phone booth someplace downtown
Speaker 3: that wasn't really screwed into cement or you could you
Speaker 3: could move. We fucking took it and later in the
Speaker 3: back of his long truck afford something and we are
Speaker 3: the professors were out of the How did you do?
Speaker 3: We took waste baskets. They used to have the Manhattan
Speaker 3: to make it really like a New York City street.
Speaker 3: But still their phone was fun. The other thing we
Speaker 3: did was big party. Parents came over. It was like initiate,
Speaker 3: not initiation. When you first go to college the first
Speaker 3: week you gotta you gotta that they throw parties. You
Speaker 3: stay on campus for two or three nights to get
Speaker 3: the look of the campus and have some parties. And
Speaker 3: all the parents were there and there was a big
Speaker 3: get together at some hall, Riggs hall. Me and my buddy.
Speaker 3: This is so bad. We went there. Everybody, all the
Speaker 3: parents had their coats and you know, pocketbooks in a
Speaker 3: separate room. We went in their bags, not to steal money,
Speaker 3: to change everybody's car keys in different pocketbooks. This is
Speaker 3: before cell phones. So we left the party early because
Speaker 3: I gotta go. Now. Could you imagine ten twelve?
Speaker 1: Like how people at Oh there.
Speaker 3: Was like sixty people, but we got ten or twelve
Speaker 3: bags and we were just laughing and throwing different keys
Speaker 3: and different bags. When they get their key, they can't
Speaker 3: call anybody. There's no cell phones. What the fuck do
Speaker 3: you do? You have to wait until so many drugs
Speaker 3: you all show up, are going to go. I have
Speaker 3: your kids, you have my keys. But that's that was
Speaker 3: my fun in college. It was limited to that because
Speaker 3: I commuted. That's why high school is uh. I can't
Speaker 3: get high school out of my mind because that was
Speaker 3: the ship we did.
Speaker 2: Was well, you know, I love so I've told some
Speaker 2: stories about the pranks that that I pulled on my
Speaker 2: mentor Bob Curry over there over the years, but it
Speaker 2: really started at school because that's you know, the opportunity
Speaker 2: to pull pranks on other guys orretitive fraternities or whatever.
Speaker 2: It was just, I mean, it was just there for
Speaker 2: the taking and it was so much fun.
Speaker 1: Like one was particularly brutal that we did where because
Speaker 1: the process was brutal.
Speaker 2: This was this was really us rebelling against a process
Speaker 2: that I thought was just unbelievably cruel. And so what
Speaker 2: would happen with what happened with sororities and girls is.
Speaker 1: So you'd be there.
Speaker 2: All fresh first semester or freshman year, meeting different people
Speaker 2: and going to sorority houses and seeing people and meeting
Speaker 2: people at fraternity parties and everything like that. And then
Speaker 2: official rush is right when you get back for second
Speaker 2: semester and you go through formalized tours of all the houses,
Speaker 2: meeting the sisters in each of the houses. And then
Speaker 2: what would happen is each freshman girl that wanted to
Speaker 2: be in a sorority would have to furnish their choices
Speaker 2: one two three, their list of one two three, and
Speaker 2: each sorority would have to create their list of it's
Speaker 2: probably twenty five maybe thirty girls that they wanted in
Speaker 2: and then the whatever it was, the Panehlanic Council would
Speaker 2: do the merging together of the choices desired by the
Speaker 2: freshman girls and the lists provided by the sororities. So
Speaker 2: you didn't know what sorority you were going to be
Speaker 2: in until this one Saturday, which what would happen is
Speaker 2: at nine am on that Saturday, you would go to
Speaker 2: your mailbox which was at this student Center, the Student
Speaker 2: Center event, and you would open your mailbox and it
Speaker 2: would tell you what sorority you were in, which might
Speaker 2: have been your first, might have been your second, might
Speaker 2: have been your third choice, and you would immediately run
Speaker 2: from the student center to that sorority where all of
Speaker 2: the girls are out and balloons and you know it's
Speaker 2: a party atmosphere and everything, and so this was sort
Speaker 2: of straight out of Animal House. We got one of
Speaker 2: the guys out a truck and we all got fire
Speaker 2: extinguishers and we had masks on, and we waited till
Speaker 2: nine am, and then at nine am we just made
Speaker 2: a circuit around the route because all the sororities were
Speaker 2: in a two block area, so they were all the
Speaker 2: girls were running to that slatest sororities, and we would
Speaker 2: just be shooting fire extinguishers.
Speaker 1: About everybody at everybody. I say, we're going by. It's
Speaker 1: so stupid.
Speaker 2: It was freaking hysterical though, because you've got this, you know,
Speaker 2: holier than now Southern Baptists dressed in this perfect outfit
Speaker 2: heading to the pi FI House or the Tridell's house
Speaker 2: or the KD House or whatever, and you know, all
Speaker 2: of a sudden you get you're getting shot by a
Speaker 2: fire Why who knows just to be idiots, but you.
Speaker 1: Could do it.
Speaker 3: There's a guy on Instagram, a black guy. It's a
Speaker 3: black neighborhood some city where there's a lot of a
Speaker 3: lot of traffic when people walking, street traffic, and this
Speaker 3: guy has a leaf blowing. It's in a residential area.
Speaker 3: And what he does was when he sees a girl coming,
Speaker 3: a black girl that he knows has a wig or
Speaker 3: a weave, he waits and he goes right up their
Speaker 3: back and blows their weave off. You gotta see these
Speaker 3: girls running for their weaves, crawling on the ground. It's
Speaker 3: a good gig.
Speaker 1: It's fun.
Speaker 2: They'll stop the w NBA game and process by the
Speaker 2: way to get the wig when it falls, when it
Speaker 2: comes off.
Speaker 3: They wouldn't even say wig, Oh this problem down, Say okay,
Speaker 3: she's gonna take down the tunnel. She's gonna go to loft.
Speaker 3: They wouldn't even say her wig fell, her weave is off.
Speaker 3: They that's embarrassing. Can't say it.
Speaker 1: Can't say that it's a green dil though.
Speaker 2: Either it has to be foreign matter on the foreign object. Yeah,
Speaker 2: that was the old WWE line, wasn't It was always
Speaker 2: a that the wrestler brought a foreign object into the
Speaker 2: ring object.
Speaker 3: Yeah, what is he had a for an object? Yeah,
Speaker 3: that's fine, unbelievable. Hey, was not a real picture of
Speaker 3: hul khog and I saw in his casket. I don't know.
Speaker 3: It could be AI, but I saw a picture on
Speaker 3: Instagram of Hulk k Holgan open casket in a nice suit,
Speaker 3: but the red bandana Hulklebania on his head and the
Speaker 3: flumentru of course all white, and his eyes weren't completely shut.
Speaker 3: And it looks so eerie that he looked like he
Speaker 3: was in It was just like an intense moment in life.
Speaker 3: He looked alive. I'm not sure if its a I well,
Speaker 3: they really had an open casket.
Speaker 1: Too, well, it could it could. I haven't seen that. Yeah,
Speaker 1: could be either, because I could.
Speaker 2: Very well see him saying when I go, this is
Speaker 2: how I want to this is how I want to be.
Speaker 3: Yeah, you got to bury him with the with the bandana,
Speaker 3: you got it, that's his thing. You can't.
Speaker 1: Yeah, And it's interesting more people don't do something.
Speaker 2: Like that, like here's how if you're going to be
Speaker 2: in an open casket, here's what I want, Like we
Speaker 2: we all have you know, uh dn R's and different
Speaker 2: instructions for how we want to be treated if we're
Speaker 2: on our dithetics. But nobody, at least I don't know
Speaker 2: if anybody that says, here's what I want, you know,
Speaker 2: and if you said, look when I go, I want
Speaker 2: my nineteen seventy nine West Side of high school.
Speaker 1: Basketball uniform, I have it, Okay, I want.
Speaker 2: I want to be I want my open cast with
Speaker 2: me with I don't care how fucking bad I look.
Speaker 1: I want.
Speaker 2: I want to have my my uniform.
Speaker 3: On Crans forty four, my big fat belly in that
Speaker 3: old high school shirt.
Speaker 1: Dude, I think she I think you should do that. Start.
Speaker 2: I think I think you should do it if you
Speaker 2: have it, if you have it, especially and.
Speaker 3: Why not because I looks so fucking big, But why not?
Speaker 1: But you're you're saying goodbye to everybody.
Speaker 2: Hey, look, you know what I wanted to say goodbye
Speaker 2: in my in my high school basketball uniform.
Speaker 3: At least you don't have a good laugh. That'd be
Speaker 3: fun because you have to laugh at funerals like when
Speaker 3: when Gallagher, what you got? What do you guys want
Speaker 3: to My father's funeral and my brother, my cousin Raymond
Speaker 3: was there. He was Vietnam War vet brewers hair. It
Speaker 3: was like he was like one of those guys on
Speaker 3: that reality show with the old men, Doc Hunters, whatever
Speaker 3: the fuck was called long hair beard just a mess
Speaker 3: and uh, Gallagher walks over me real quiet, and he goes,
Speaker 3: I'm glad. Who do you say, I'm glad. Oh, I'm
Speaker 3: glad the grateful dead came to see your father. Perfect.
Speaker 3: It's perfect Gallagher. And of course he's laughed.
Speaker 1: No one, no one likes their own material better than Gallaghy.
Speaker 1: He gets a good laugh out of it. But him lately,
Speaker 1: I haven't seen him lately.
Speaker 2: We we had a text go around not too long
Speaker 2: ago saying we needed to to put the band together
Speaker 2: for something, but we we haven't tell you what I'm
Speaker 2: going to do.
Speaker 3: I wrote a screenplay once and it's it's it's a
Speaker 3: It's about a guy real quickly who It's like, if
Speaker 3: you have something you really want in life, like a
Speaker 3: like a final wish, so to speak, this guy will
Speaker 3: carry out whatever it is you want done. You know,
Speaker 3: everybody wants different things. They're about to die. They want
Speaker 3: to make sure a girlfriend that lived across the country
Speaker 3: knows that he always loved her more than his wife.
Speaker 3: That kind of shit. So this guy goes around doing
Speaker 3: one thing we had him do in the screenplay was
Speaker 3: he sent the clown to someone's funeral. That would be
Speaker 3: the ultimate to be in a funeral and have a
Speaker 3: clown walk in.
Speaker 1: Oh dude, I love that.
Speaker 2: I actually think that's a great idea for a business
Speaker 2: like the Final Wishes. Yeah, Final Wishes. So the bit
Speaker 2: what we do is fulfill your your your three wishes.
Speaker 2: We fulfill your final three wishes in life? What would
Speaker 2: you like him to be? And and then you go like.
Speaker 3: A Bob Odenkirk playing that role like a you know,
Speaker 3: like not a tough, tough guy, but a sharp guy
Speaker 3: who knows what he wants. You know, it's how to
Speaker 3: get things done. And the whole thing about the movie was,
Speaker 3: even though he was getting paid at the end of
Speaker 3: the movie, you see that all the checks he got
Speaker 3: are tacked to a wall. He didn't catch one of them.
Speaker 3: He enjoyed doing what he did. He just wanted to
Speaker 3: make these people, these people's wishes come true. Some were crazy,
Speaker 3: some are really sweet. So there was a lot of
Speaker 3: you know, comedy, tragedy. It was a lot in there.
Speaker 3: It was a lot of fun to write. I haven't
Speaker 3: seen it in a while. I got to dig it out.
Speaker 3: But yeah, that's a good character.
Speaker 1: Well it's it's a good character. It's a good idea
Speaker 1: for a show. But I'm serious.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's a great idea for a business. There's probably
Speaker 2: something out there that's somewhat similar. But but to but
Speaker 2: to be able to grant I think. I think of
Speaker 2: my father in law right now, who was just larger
Speaker 2: than life.
Speaker 3: And my brother in law.
Speaker 2: This unbelievable guy who you know now it's it's you know,
Speaker 2: we're just waiting. And of course, uh, I would love
Speaker 2: for for him to say, hey, here's here's three things.
Speaker 2: You know, go to he's a big golfer, go to
Speaker 2: the go to Annandale, the club he played at, and
Speaker 2: take my driver and I don't know, uh, knock out
Speaker 2: the the tea.
Speaker 1: Markers on the first first hole. Whatever.
Speaker 2: I don't know, but give me three things and go
Speaker 2: go do them for them.
Speaker 3: I think people will you do it and to make
Speaker 3: sure the guy knows it, make sure the guy knows
Speaker 3: it would work before he passes. And nowadays, because I
Speaker 3: wrote this years ago, nowadays you can show the guy
Speaker 3: your phone. You could, you could show them exactly what
Speaker 3: you did. But again, a lot of a lot of
Speaker 3: some some some wishes are tragic and sad, make you cry.
Speaker 3: Others are very funny, over the top, crazy ship that
Speaker 3: this guy is gonna do. Yeah, there's something there. There's
Speaker 3: something there.
Speaker 1: There's definitely something I gotta think about that.
Speaker 3: There's Yeah. I got a few of those stories that
Speaker 3: I didn't do anything with it. I didn't even I
Speaker 3: didn't even I didn't I didn't send it out to
Speaker 3: be optioned. I just at the end of the day,
Speaker 3: I just felt like, maybe it needs more, like I
Speaker 3: kind of dropped it.
Speaker 2: But okay, last thing and then, uh, lady, well we
Speaker 2: didn't get to we're doing our usual job of getting
Speaker 2: to like a fraction.
Speaker 1: Of the topics I put down.
Speaker 3: It's fine, all.
Speaker 1: Right, here's my thing on the Sydney Sweeney.
Speaker 3: Oh, Sydney, Sydney Sweeney. Go ahead, She's hottest, the hottest girl,
Speaker 3: Sidney Sweeney.
Speaker 1: I guess that's my problem.
Speaker 2: Like I think Sydney Sweeney has a you know, really
Speaker 2: really grandmother, say, best boobs in Hollywood.
Speaker 1: I think she's got a really nice body.
Speaker 3: She does.
Speaker 1: I don't think she's particularly pretty.
Speaker 3: I know what you mean, And I.
Speaker 2: Actually don't think she looks particularly good in an American eagle.
Speaker 3: I agree, I agree she's no. I agree that she
Speaker 3: didn't look her best in that ad because frankly, it
Speaker 3: wasn't as sexy. It didn't look sexy like baggy back, right,
Speaker 3: That's what I'm saying. Don't But if you see her
Speaker 3: on the red carpet with a tight, tight red dress
Speaker 3: with her boobs out, and I mean, and you know
Speaker 3: she's she's bed on the raid off of three years
Speaker 3: or so with that show Euphoria. We've seen her tits out.
Speaker 3: She's having sex on that show with her black boyfriend.
Speaker 3: So there's nothing new there. But this is a girl
Speaker 3: about two or three years ago was complaining that I'm
Speaker 3: not working enough, I'm not getting paid. How can I
Speaker 3: afford to live if I'm not gonna work. She was
Speaker 3: getting real like you're nasty and bitter, Like you're a
Speaker 3: fucking young woman. Calm down, you're gonna hit HBO show.
Speaker 3: You'll be fine, and now forget it, she's off to
Speaker 3: the races. I mean, this girl just blew up. But
Speaker 3: that's what a body can do for you. But I
Speaker 3: I agreed that her face is not you. Now, some
Speaker 3: of my friends say she has like that, a little
Speaker 3: bit like the little autistic face, a little on the
Speaker 3: spectrum face kind of thing. But I don't.
Speaker 1: I'm just saying solidy eight.
Speaker 3: Yeah I'll give of course, yeah, I'll give it an eight.
Speaker 3: But you know what the ad Listen any you could
Speaker 3: put Penelope Cruz and say she has great jeans and
Speaker 3: she's Latin. You could take it doesn't matter the color.
Speaker 3: I don't care if Sydney's white because I like sexy
Speaker 3: black girls and sexy Latitas, so that could be. That
Speaker 3: could be an add for every sexy chick, not just
Speaker 3: Sidney Sweeney. And maybe they will. If they're smart, they'll
Speaker 3: put a hot Latina, not so fiea the gar she's
Speaker 3: too old. I hate to say it, but you need
Speaker 3: someone young, young Latina. There's plenty out there ISAA Gonzalez,
Speaker 3: There's a million of them that would be a hit
Speaker 3: for American Eagle. This way, you get old every culture.
Speaker 2: It will it will be a series now and they'll
Speaker 2: do the obvious thing because it was never about anything other.
Speaker 1: Than that play on words.
Speaker 2: Yeah, you know, I look great in jeans and I
Speaker 2: have gray jeans.
Speaker 3: It's such but so perfect. I talk about a perfect ad,
Speaker 3: they nailed it, and it's it's yeah, the nailed it.
Speaker 3: I was. I was heavily thinking about advertising before I
Speaker 3: went to journalism. I loved advertising. I read a book
Speaker 3: called The Subliminal Art of Seduction when I was like eighteen,
Speaker 3: and I all the images they put in movies in
Speaker 3: the theater where you don't really see. It's one frame
Speaker 3: and a film, a Coca cola shows up and your
Speaker 3: mind catches, but your eyes don't suddenly get thirsty. Ship
Speaker 3: like that.
Speaker 1: Yeah, you would have been a great creative director. You
Speaker 1: could have wrote. I could have done that, for sure.
Speaker 3: I wrote two heads up that I think were great.
Speaker 3: I wrote, well, the one I loved the most, and
Speaker 3: it's finally I think, finally somebody did it. But I
Speaker 3: would have like doctor Jay in bed on his night
Speaker 3: tables a big glass of milk and he gets an
Speaker 3: oreo cookie and he dunks it in the milk, eats
Speaker 3: it and he's on his back and he goes back
Speaker 3: with with it. Dunken like a reverse dunk was a
Speaker 3: seculiar serving Dunk's areos. Yeah, that'd be kiy. I had
Speaker 3: some good ideas back then. I did that was good.
Speaker 1: That was good.
Speaker 3: Yeah, then I got that. I just wanted to be
Speaker 3: a writer because I didn't have any advertising heroes. But
Speaker 3: you probably loved mad Men. I've never seen mad Men.
Speaker 1: Can I tell you? I just watch it. I didn't
Speaker 1: watch it.
Speaker 2: Why I know, I know I should have and it
Speaker 2: just got it got to where it was. It's too much,
Speaker 2: too many years, like it took me forever. It gets
Speaker 2: to Breaking Bad. I didn't see Breaking Bad until like.
Speaker 1: Three years ago.
Speaker 3: Oh wow, so love that.
Speaker 1: At some point, maybe I'll do mad Men. But no
Speaker 1: I haven't. I haven't. I mean, I know Don Draper
Speaker 1: and all that.
Speaker 3: But the business, I mean, yeah, aful lot about it.
Speaker 1: No, I should have. I should have done. It was
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Speaker 2: Haven't I think there there are a couple of options
Speaker 2: in the six hundred and summer brands for sex stories.
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Speaker 3: that dildos, that'd be great. It's got to be embarrassing
Speaker 3: because we know who bought them. Well you wouldn't.
Speaker 1: We don't have to, We don't have to tell anybody.
Speaker 1: Actually we don't know. I don't see No, we don't.
Speaker 1: We don't know who about them. We know that they were,
Speaker 1: that they were bought, So you know, we're not going
Speaker 1: to out anybody.
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