WEBVTT 1 00:00:01.120 --> 00:00:02.720 It's Night Side with Dan Ray. 2 00:00:03.359 --> 00:00:06.120 I'm telling you Boston's News Radio. 3 00:00:06.919 --> 00:00:09.240 Well, we have been talking for a couple of hours, 4 00:00:09.880 --> 00:00:13.400 both the nine of the ten o'clock hour about a 5 00:00:13.439 --> 00:00:19.480 really surprised development in the Brian Coburger murder trial in Idaho. 6 00:00:20.120 --> 00:00:23.480 Coburger is the man who now admits to having murdered 7 00:00:23.559 --> 00:00:28.320 four college students from the University of Idaho as they 8 00:00:28.359 --> 00:00:31.719 slept on an early Sunday morning in November of twenty 9 00:00:31.800 --> 00:00:36.520 twenty two, and he has now pled guilty. His lawyers 10 00:00:36.560 --> 00:00:40.399 have entered a plea with the understanding that he would 11 00:00:40.399 --> 00:00:43.960 be spared the death penalty and he would have to 12 00:00:44.000 --> 00:00:47.320 serve four consecutive life sentences for the murder of the 13 00:00:47.399 --> 00:00:51.640 four young people who he murdered while they slept in 14 00:00:51.759 --> 00:00:57.320 their beds that horrible Sunday morning. Patrick has joined us 15 00:00:57.320 --> 00:00:59.960 from Charlestown and I put him on at the end 16 00:01:00.079 --> 00:01:03.280 of last hour, and he's talking. He's talking about a 17 00:01:03.359 --> 00:01:06.319 coburger and he's trying to make a point here. So 18 00:01:06.359 --> 00:01:08.760 I want to give him an opportunity if you want 19 00:01:08.799 --> 00:01:11.760 to go back and just catch up. Patrick. So the 20 00:01:11.799 --> 00:01:15.359 people who are just joining us, explain to them that 21 00:01:15.439 --> 00:01:19.799 you're talking about this guy Coburger who apparently dealt with 22 00:01:19.840 --> 00:01:22.079 a lot of issues. Go ahead, I'd love to hear 23 00:01:22.400 --> 00:01:23.640 hear where you're going with this. 24 00:01:24.040 --> 00:01:28.000 Go right ahead, Patrick, Yeah, absolutely. First off, if anybody 25 00:01:28.040 --> 00:01:31.480 deserves a death penalty, it's this guy. He premeditated it. 26 00:01:31.799 --> 00:01:35.079 He circled around their house many many times. He planned 27 00:01:35.079 --> 00:01:39.840 this thing out, obviously premeditated. If anybody deserves a death penalty, 28 00:01:40.280 --> 00:01:44.400 it's this guy. I just when I read through his 29 00:01:44.640 --> 00:01:47.840 termination and there's a letter online. I read through his 30 00:01:47.959 --> 00:01:52.680 termination letter and I as I and the same profession 31 00:01:52.719 --> 00:01:56.319 you are, and I read, I read the process that 32 00:01:56.359 --> 00:02:00.159 he was provided, and I found that there's no way, 33 00:02:00.200 --> 00:02:03.640 shape or form that this guy was provided a fair process. 34 00:02:03.920 --> 00:02:09.360 Before they terminated his PhD teaching assistant shift. They took 35 00:02:09.400 --> 00:02:12.599 away the guy's hopes and dreams, and they did it 36 00:02:12.680 --> 00:02:17.319 over some type of a guy versus guy silver backed 37 00:02:17.360 --> 00:02:20.840 gorilla dominance fight that he had with his professor. The 38 00:02:20.879 --> 00:02:23.960 professor then went to human resources, and you can see 39 00:02:24.000 --> 00:02:26.439 from the timeline it started in nine to twenty three. 40 00:02:26.840 --> 00:02:30.080 Then there was a meeting on October third, ten days later, 41 00:02:30.639 --> 00:02:33.719 eighteen days he's given a meeting eighteen days later, he's 42 00:02:33.759 --> 00:02:37.680 found to have not improved. So that includes weekends, right, 43 00:02:37.960 --> 00:02:41.759 that is not a sufficient time period to So. 44 00:02:42.639 --> 00:02:46.360 You have explained that this guy, you know, I had 45 00:02:47.080 --> 00:02:50.000 a difficult childhood, A lot of people have difficult childhoods, 46 00:02:51.039 --> 00:02:54.639 was able to get himself educated. He's committed a crime. 47 00:02:55.120 --> 00:02:58.080 What's the point you're making that he somehow should be 48 00:02:58.120 --> 00:02:59.639 treated my point. 49 00:03:01.719 --> 00:03:05.560 My point is that it's a piece of the story 50 00:03:05.599 --> 00:03:08.360 that I think this was the final last straw in 51 00:03:08.439 --> 00:03:11.680 the story of this guy's life. He was predisposed for 52 00:03:11.759 --> 00:03:14.879 this sort of thing. He's guilty of murder, and there's 53 00:03:14.919 --> 00:03:18.400 a problem with like human resources, that it can be 54 00:03:18.560 --> 00:03:22.680 absolutely vicious. This guy was not that they ripped the 55 00:03:22.879 --> 00:03:27.759 guys hopes and dreams. They smashed them all. 56 00:03:27.520 --> 00:03:29.520 Okay, but but there's a lot there's a lot of 57 00:03:29.560 --> 00:03:34.879 people whose hopes and dreams Patrick ripped away. People don't 58 00:03:34.919 --> 00:03:38.479 get into medical school, or they don't get into law school, 59 00:03:38.599 --> 00:03:41.080 or or they play five years in the minor leagues 60 00:03:41.080 --> 00:03:45.199 and never get past double A or whatever, and they 61 00:03:45.199 --> 00:03:49.599 don't go around murdering for people. So I'm just trying 62 00:03:49.599 --> 00:03:52.560 to understand. All I'm trying to understand, Patrick, is where 63 00:03:52.560 --> 00:03:54.319 you're going you want of my better callers. I want 64 00:03:54.360 --> 00:03:58.360 to understand are you are you talking that somehow the 65 00:03:58.759 --> 00:04:02.719 college professor who got in, as you said, this male 66 00:04:02.800 --> 00:04:09.039 dominance a silver back gorilla, uh contest, should somehow also 67 00:04:09.120 --> 00:04:09.800 be indicted. 68 00:04:10.400 --> 00:04:11.840 What what what you should be? 69 00:04:12.159 --> 00:04:12.400 No? 70 00:04:12.520 --> 00:04:16.720 No, no, that the human resources process should definitely be investigated. 71 00:04:19.360 --> 00:04:21.800 It's a small piece of the story. I don't It's 72 00:04:21.800 --> 00:04:25.160 a tangent. I send that right up front. It says 73 00:04:25.199 --> 00:04:27.519 a lot. There's a lot of people listening right now 74 00:04:27.720 --> 00:04:31.000 who've been treated rotten by human resources, who have been 75 00:04:31.319 --> 00:04:33.680 fired and not giving a fair chance. And this this 76 00:04:33.759 --> 00:04:35.120 is definitely what happened here. 77 00:04:35.600 --> 00:04:40.199 What about hold on for a sakeon Patrick, I appreciate 78 00:04:40.600 --> 00:04:45.759 your presentation, but what about Luigi Mangioni. I believe that 79 00:04:45.800 --> 00:04:49.759 he had had some medical bills, or or family members 80 00:04:49.800 --> 00:04:53.240 had some medical bills. There's always going to be a rationale. 81 00:04:53.480 --> 00:04:55.720 The guy doesn't wake up some morning and say I'm 82 00:04:55.720 --> 00:04:57.439 gonna go kill Uh. 83 00:04:57.800 --> 00:05:00.240 You know, I'm not saying this guy deserves the who 84 00:05:00.279 --> 00:05:02.319 deserves to be let off, he deserves a death penalty. 85 00:05:02.680 --> 00:05:04.720 I'm just saying that that somebody should look at that. 86 00:05:04.920 --> 00:05:06.439 So that is a piece of Okay. 87 00:05:06.160 --> 00:05:09.600 So you've looked at it. Where did we go from there? 88 00:05:09.680 --> 00:05:12.120 You've looked at it, and you have explained it really well. 89 00:05:12.240 --> 00:05:14.120 I think what we do is we have a national 90 00:05:14.199 --> 00:05:19.639 conversation about about human resources processes all around the country 91 00:05:19.920 --> 00:05:23.560 and and how how we treat employees. I don't I 92 00:05:23.600 --> 00:05:25.879 think I've seen this. A lot of my curve represented 93 00:05:25.920 --> 00:05:28.519 a lot of people gone through things like this, and 94 00:05:28.759 --> 00:05:31.920 this is this is not abnormal. This is and I'm 95 00:05:31.920 --> 00:05:34.160 telling you there's people not in their heads listening to 96 00:05:34.160 --> 00:05:37.319 this right now have been through similar situations where they 97 00:05:37.319 --> 00:05:39.439 got a pip and they would treat it untaily by 98 00:05:39.480 --> 00:05:44.160 someone who had something across their backside and wasn't genuine. 99 00:05:44.240 --> 00:05:48.000 Patrick, I totally get everything you said here, I really do. Okay, 100 00:05:48.240 --> 00:05:53.399 but guess what, you know what this is? This is life, unfortunately, 101 00:05:53.560 --> 00:05:58.079 and it's sad, right, I mean it is sad. I 102 00:05:58.879 --> 00:06:03.839 have friends who who didn't get the didn't get a partnership. 103 00:06:03.879 --> 00:06:06.279 They were the best lawyer, they were the hardest working 104 00:06:06.360 --> 00:06:09.279 lawyer in the firm, but there was someone who didn't 105 00:06:09.439 --> 00:06:13.160 like them or whatever, you know. I mean, that's it's horrible. 106 00:06:13.279 --> 00:06:15.879 I mean I've had people who I've worked for who 107 00:06:15.959 --> 00:06:19.079 I felt were really had my back and were friends 108 00:06:19.079 --> 00:06:22.759 of mine above and beyond a professional relationship. Then you 109 00:06:22.839 --> 00:06:27.000 have people who you don't quite have that same feeling for. Okay, 110 00:06:27.199 --> 00:06:31.399 but it's kind of like there were I always bring 111 00:06:31.399 --> 00:06:34.160 it back to pro athletes, but there were there were 112 00:06:34.160 --> 00:06:38.279 pro athletes who were this close to being Hall of 113 00:06:38.319 --> 00:06:42.040 Fame athletes and they missed an opportunity or break. They 114 00:06:42.040 --> 00:06:44.759 didn't go out and turn around. I just it's part 115 00:06:44.800 --> 00:06:48.240 of life. I wish life can. Life can really be bad, 116 00:06:48.399 --> 00:06:51.360 it can really be nasty. Uh, and it can be unfair. 117 00:06:51.480 --> 00:06:55.040 Jack Kennedy, President Kennedy said, life is unfair. You know, 118 00:06:55.120 --> 00:06:57.560 some men get drafted and go to war, some other 119 00:06:57.839 --> 00:07:00.480 some don't get drafted. You know, some go to war 120 00:07:00.639 --> 00:07:06.279 that they're killed, others the bullet never never kep. What 121 00:07:06.319 --> 00:07:09.920 I'm saying is, you're taking his case is going to 122 00:07:10.000 --> 00:07:13.680 solve the inequities of the human resource problem in America. 123 00:07:14.560 --> 00:07:16.560 Right the state's part, it is a big part of 124 00:07:16.560 --> 00:07:18.920 this story. No one's talking about. So like that the 125 00:07:19.040 --> 00:07:20.319 letter thank. 126 00:07:20.160 --> 00:07:22.959 You for doing that, you are and I mean that seriously, 127 00:07:23.040 --> 00:07:23.959 thank you for doing that. 128 00:07:24.759 --> 00:07:27.360 They're supposed to be specific when you get a letter 129 00:07:27.720 --> 00:07:31.319 supposed to be measurable. It's there's supposed to be particulars 130 00:07:31.360 --> 00:07:34.759 in there, so with particular outline to improve. None of 131 00:07:34.759 --> 00:07:36.879 that's in any of the stuff I read. It's all 132 00:07:36.959 --> 00:07:39.160 online and sufficient. 133 00:07:39.279 --> 00:07:39.680 Patrick. 134 00:07:39.759 --> 00:07:42.360 Patrick, you're a smart guy. Why don't you take up 135 00:07:42.360 --> 00:07:48.720 this cause and use No I'm serious, I'm not being 136 00:07:48.879 --> 00:07:51.560 I'm not ridiculing you, Patrick. I hope you understand that 137 00:07:51.639 --> 00:07:58.000 I'm being honest. I felt very passionate for a guy 138 00:07:58.079 --> 00:08:01.240 named Joe Silvadi many years ago, and I put my 139 00:08:01.240 --> 00:08:05.800 my television career on the line. Thank god I was right, 140 00:08:07.519 --> 00:08:10.839 But you could I don't know. Maybe the guy in 141 00:08:10.879 --> 00:08:15.120 New York, Luigi Mangioni, I mean, he has a real following. 142 00:08:15.199 --> 00:08:18.759 Maybe this guy will have a following. It's conceivable that 143 00:08:18.759 --> 00:08:21.360 there was something that happened in the Boston bombers case. 144 00:08:21.439 --> 00:08:25.120 Maybe the two brothers got laughed at or something because 145 00:08:25.120 --> 00:08:29.000 they had a strange accent. But I don't know where 146 00:08:29.040 --> 00:08:29.439 it takes you. 147 00:08:30.519 --> 00:08:33.000 I guess I don't want people to misunderstand what I'm saying. 148 00:08:33.000 --> 00:08:34.480 This guy deserves to be fried. 149 00:08:34.559 --> 00:08:38.120 So you're being You're being You've been very clear. You've 150 00:08:38.159 --> 00:08:38.840 been very clear. 151 00:08:39.480 --> 00:08:41.279 And uh, you know what, I'm gonna do that. So 152 00:08:41.399 --> 00:08:44.679 I'm gonna I'll at least I'll at least work on it. 153 00:08:44.759 --> 00:08:48.720 So, look, you're smart. You're a smart guy. I don't 154 00:08:48.799 --> 00:08:51.279 know you personally, maybe we've men at some point, but 155 00:08:51.399 --> 00:08:54.559 you were always a challenging caller. That's why I held 156 00:08:54.559 --> 00:08:58.559 you over. And I think, well, as they say, that's 157 00:08:58.559 --> 00:09:01.000 all I have to do, that all have to give. 158 00:09:01.120 --> 00:09:04.519 So but I think you've made my audience think. And 159 00:09:04.559 --> 00:09:08.639 that's the standard that I use here. I want my audience. 160 00:09:08.639 --> 00:09:10.519 I don't care what they think. I just want them 161 00:09:10.519 --> 00:09:12.840 to think. I want to think you challenged me to 162 00:09:12.879 --> 00:09:18.440 think about this. Look if if Brian Colburger, Brian Colberger 163 00:09:19.080 --> 00:09:22.360 was a relative of mine and I had watched him 164 00:09:22.399 --> 00:09:25.919 go through what you just described, I'm not going to 165 00:09:26.159 --> 00:09:29.879 justify what happened. And I think you're not justifying what happened. 166 00:09:30.039 --> 00:09:33.759 You're saying is that people need to understand that sometimes 167 00:09:33.799 --> 00:09:37.519 there are people who are a ticking time bomb and 168 00:09:37.559 --> 00:09:41.320 if someone took the time to maybe counsel them or 169 00:09:41.440 --> 00:09:44.559 help them, or support them or give them a pat 170 00:09:44.600 --> 00:09:47.679 in the back, maybe that fuse doesn't get lit. I 171 00:09:47.720 --> 00:09:48.600 think that's what you're. 172 00:09:48.480 --> 00:09:52.240 Saying yes, which, without a doubt, that's exactly what I'm saying. 173 00:09:52.279 --> 00:09:55.440 And if you read through this letter, it's it's it's honestly, 174 00:09:55.480 --> 00:09:58.519 it's cruelty when you read through this, when you read 175 00:09:58.559 --> 00:09:59.840 through that thing that is cruelty. 176 00:10:00.559 --> 00:10:04.480 Well he passed that, and you agree he passed that 177 00:10:04.559 --> 00:10:07.600 cruelty on in a different way. Why he took four 178 00:10:08.360 --> 00:10:15.879 innocent souls, godlings, and their parents and the the the 179 00:10:15.879 --> 00:10:19.399 the spouses that they they might have been destined to marry, 180 00:10:19.399 --> 00:10:21.480 the children that they might have been destined to have. 181 00:10:21.679 --> 00:10:24.960 So thanks, thanks Patrick, challenging call, Thank you so much. 182 00:10:25.840 --> 00:10:29.440 All Right, we'll stick with this. Eric and Addleborough, if 183 00:10:29.480 --> 00:10:32.039 you want to join the conversation, will continue to talk 184 00:10:32.080 --> 00:10:36.120 about what my friend Patrick talks about. I'd also like 185 00:10:36.159 --> 00:10:40.000 to talk at least briefly about the Big Beautiful Bill. 186 00:10:40.159 --> 00:10:43.559 I think the Big Beautiful Bill is in big trouble. Now. 187 00:10:43.600 --> 00:10:46.120 I know that some of you will agree, some of 188 00:10:46.120 --> 00:10:49.120 you will disagree, but I think that the differences between 189 00:10:49.159 --> 00:10:52.000 the Senate version and the House version are to some 190 00:10:52.519 --> 00:10:58.759 extent irresurmultable and irreconcilable, especially in view of the margins, 191 00:10:58.759 --> 00:11:01.559 the thin margins that are have. I can talk about 192 00:11:01.559 --> 00:11:03.759 that a little bit more. Want to talk about coburger, 193 00:11:04.000 --> 00:11:07.200 want to react to what Patrick had to say six one, seven, two, five, 194 00:11:07.200 --> 00:11:10.759 four to ten thirty six seven, nine, three, one, ten thirty. 195 00:11:10.960 --> 00:11:13.559 You want to talk about the big beautiful bill and 196 00:11:13.639 --> 00:11:18.200 what's going to happen. It's July first right now. Tomorrow 197 00:11:18.480 --> 00:11:22.720 is July second. If this thing does, if this thing 198 00:11:22.759 --> 00:11:27.200 gets tied up, it's going to die. And I don't 199 00:11:27.200 --> 00:11:28.799 know how the Republicans resurrected. 200 00:11:29.360 --> 00:11:29.480 Uh. 201 00:11:31.159 --> 00:11:33.919 I'm not saying I supported or oppose it, just telling 202 00:11:33.960 --> 00:11:37.440 you I think that there's too many deals being struck 203 00:11:37.480 --> 00:11:40.480 here and they talk about making laws or like making 204 00:11:40.519 --> 00:11:44.080 sausages an ugly process. This is an ugly process. And 205 00:11:44.120 --> 00:11:47.279 the Democrats may be in the catbird seed because if 206 00:11:47.279 --> 00:11:51.720 this goes down, there are ramifications that none of us 207 00:11:52.799 --> 00:11:55.480 are going to five. And if this passes there are ramifications. 208 00:11:55.879 --> 00:12:00.360 Either way, it's a potential losing situation. I'll explain and 209 00:12:00.360 --> 00:12:03.159 we'll continue to talk about Brian Colberger. We we can 210 00:12:03.240 --> 00:12:05.320 do two things. We can walk into gum at the 211 00:12:05.320 --> 00:12:07.039 same time. Coming back on night Side. 212 00:12:08.720 --> 00:12:15.000 Night Side with Dan Ray on Boston's News Radio's Good to. 213 00:12:15.159 --> 00:12:17.960 Eric and Attleborough. Hey, Eric, welcome back. How are you, sir? 214 00:12:21.840 --> 00:12:22.279 I'm good? 215 00:12:23.559 --> 00:12:26.399 Oh Eric, I can I can hear you. You got 216 00:12:26.399 --> 00:12:27.480 to turn whatever radio? 217 00:12:30.279 --> 00:12:32.600 Okay, yeah, just real quickly. I'm not saying that I 218 00:12:32.639 --> 00:12:38.639 support uh Luigi's uh you know, visual anti actions, but 219 00:12:39.279 --> 00:12:42.320 something that I just that people are overlooking that has 220 00:12:42.360 --> 00:12:48.440 not been mentioned. The gentleman underwent a botched back surgery 221 00:12:49.279 --> 00:12:54.559 over a decade ago. And and if you I mean, 222 00:12:55.879 --> 00:12:57.879 I was able to take a close look at a 223 00:12:57.919 --> 00:13:00.799 lot of blog posts he made it back in the 224 00:13:00.879 --> 00:13:03.480 day on like live journal and so on and so forth. 225 00:13:03.519 --> 00:13:05.759 I mean he documented his case of just being and 226 00:13:06.279 --> 00:13:12.320 exfruliating pain and being unable to simply get the situation rectified, 227 00:13:13.000 --> 00:13:20.720 and also becoming developing a habit of painkillers. And I mean, 228 00:13:21.559 --> 00:13:23.919 like I said, I don't agree with it. I don't, 229 00:13:24.039 --> 00:13:27.279 you know, it's not something that that I think is right. 230 00:13:27.360 --> 00:13:31.519 But for someone like that that really the physical pain 231 00:13:31.600 --> 00:13:36.000 and ailments obviously ate away at his intellectual wherewithal of 232 00:13:36.320 --> 00:13:39.320 right from wrong. And I mean I firmly think that 233 00:13:39.399 --> 00:13:43.559 just led to his targeted assassination of the CEO of 234 00:13:43.600 --> 00:13:48.120 a company that I mean, you know, it does the 235 00:13:48.200 --> 00:13:53.360 health insurance companies have to maximize shareholder wealth. That's the 236 00:13:53.399 --> 00:13:56.799 purpose of a for profit I mean, you know, for 237 00:13:56.960 --> 00:14:00.639 profit publicly traded companies. So I'm not saying I agree 238 00:14:00.679 --> 00:14:03.120 with it. I'm just saying no one's mentioned that tonight, 239 00:14:03.200 --> 00:14:06.080 and that's really the crutch of the issue, the fact 240 00:14:06.120 --> 00:14:07.080 that he so. 241 00:14:07.399 --> 00:14:07.480 So. 242 00:14:07.679 --> 00:14:13.320 Therefore you're agreeing to some extent with what Patrick from 243 00:14:13.399 --> 00:14:17.399 Charles Town is suggesting. And I'm not disagreeing with either 244 00:14:17.440 --> 00:14:20.720 of you. But what I'm saying is all of us 245 00:14:20.799 --> 00:14:24.360 have circumstances in life that are. 246 00:14:24.279 --> 00:14:29.679 Difficult, right, I absolutely, absolutely. 247 00:14:29.120 --> 00:14:31.679 Some of us, and that's let me just finish. Let 248 00:14:31.759 --> 00:14:35.279 me finish. Some of some of us have circumstances in 249 00:14:35.360 --> 00:14:39.080 life that are even more difficult. There are people who 250 00:14:39.159 --> 00:14:47.120 were born with horrific disfigurement, diseases, et cetera. And some 251 00:14:47.200 --> 00:14:51.840 of us have you know, have have really no problem 252 00:14:51.919 --> 00:14:54.360 and then at some point in our life and sometimes 253 00:14:54.399 --> 00:14:58.320 and an early point, like MANGIONI had a back issue 254 00:14:58.360 --> 00:15:01.240 and and maybe the sur didn't go well. I get 255 00:15:01.279 --> 00:15:03.639 all of that. I admit to all of that, but 256 00:15:04.600 --> 00:15:07.840 and none of it justifies what they did. We agree 257 00:15:07.840 --> 00:15:10.120 on that no one's going to say, the kid that 258 00:15:10.240 --> 00:15:12.759 climbed up on the roof and took a shot in 259 00:15:12.840 --> 00:15:17.080 miss killing Donald Trump by a couple of inches. I 260 00:15:17.159 --> 00:15:19.799 don't know what went on in his life, but obviously 261 00:15:19.840 --> 00:15:23.759 there was something there. But so we take all of 262 00:15:23.759 --> 00:15:29.080 that and we say to ourselves, okay, we accept that. 263 00:15:29.600 --> 00:15:33.399 Where does that lead us intellectually? And I don't know, 264 00:15:33.519 --> 00:15:39.639 does it set up defenses? No, ie, I guarantee you that, 265 00:15:39.720 --> 00:15:46.559 in my opinion, anyone who takes another person's life is 266 00:15:46.679 --> 00:15:50.240 at least temporarily insane. Why would I mean, every day 267 00:15:50.279 --> 00:15:53.039 you read the story about the I forget what ton 268 00:15:53.279 --> 00:15:57.759 was in a couple of days ago, the son in 269 00:15:57.840 --> 00:16:01.919 law of a woman ended up in a fight with 270 00:16:02.039 --> 00:16:06.720 the boyfriend of his mother, or the son of a 271 00:16:06.759 --> 00:16:10.279 woman ended up in a fight with the boyfriend of 272 00:16:10.360 --> 00:16:13.559 his mother. He's like sixty five, he's somewhere in his 273 00:16:13.679 --> 00:16:17.799 forties over where the steak was cooked properly? 274 00:16:19.840 --> 00:16:24.960 All right, Yeah, I yes, I I no, And I'm 275 00:16:25.279 --> 00:16:31.720 like I said, is it is? Uh, it's I'll put 276 00:16:31.720 --> 00:16:36.360 it this way, absolutely assassinating the CEO of a for 277 00:16:36.600 --> 00:16:41.480 profit you know, healthy church company. In the end, you know, 278 00:16:41.559 --> 00:16:43.960 at the end of the day, his back is the 279 00:16:44.120 --> 00:16:47.039 situation is still to be rectified, and it doesn't it 280 00:16:47.080 --> 00:16:49.440 doesn't fix it, you know, it doesn't fix the issue. 281 00:16:49.519 --> 00:16:55.159 And yeah, it's it's it's it's a absolutely improper youth. 282 00:16:56.080 --> 00:16:59.679 And and frankly, it's a anyone that acts the premisure 283 00:17:00.000 --> 00:17:05.599 he meditated Melissa in ten right has something that needs 284 00:17:05.599 --> 00:17:07.880 to be contained by you know, the lawful authority. 285 00:17:08.160 --> 00:17:11.759 Well, of course that that goes. I'll say every political assassin. 286 00:17:12.400 --> 00:17:16.160 I mean, I'm sure Leejavi Oswald had some reason why 287 00:17:16.240 --> 00:17:20.440 he wanted to shoot President Kennedy. Okay, Now I don't 288 00:17:20.440 --> 00:17:20.920 know if he did. 289 00:17:21.720 --> 00:17:23.960 Yeah, okay, I mean. 290 00:17:24.319 --> 00:17:27.799 I'm sure that John Hinckley, who was a nut job 291 00:17:27.920 --> 00:17:32.119 and who now walks freely amongst us, thought he had 292 00:17:32.119 --> 00:17:35.200 a right to shoot Ronald Reagan in March of nineteen 293 00:17:35.240 --> 00:17:39.279 eighty one. He spent forty years in prison. And then 294 00:17:39.680 --> 00:17:42.559 you know, he was the son of a doctor, if 295 00:17:42.599 --> 00:17:44.079 I recall correctly. 296 00:17:44.559 --> 00:17:47.640 Yeah, you know, to be honest with you, I don't 297 00:17:47.640 --> 00:17:50.640 know as much about those assassins. I was born in 298 00:17:50.680 --> 00:17:54.400 nineteen seventy nine, so you know, just the Luigi thing, 299 00:17:54.680 --> 00:17:57.000 you know, is something that's fresh. I have, you know, 300 00:17:57.079 --> 00:17:59.680 information fresh to be like, no, it's just starting those 301 00:18:00.319 --> 00:18:02.680 But you know, I don't have the best information, and 302 00:18:02.720 --> 00:18:06.039 that wasn't I just don't know the full background. 303 00:18:06.200 --> 00:18:09.960 But look, Luigi obviously is blinded by some passion here. 304 00:18:10.000 --> 00:18:13.839 He feels that somehow and and and he's almost become 305 00:18:13.880 --> 00:18:16.680 a folk hero. There were people who were outside his 306 00:18:16.799 --> 00:18:20.599 arraignment and they were great, you know, free Luigi. I mean, 307 00:18:20.839 --> 00:18:23.279 what the hell what does that say about our society? 308 00:18:24.440 --> 00:18:26.559 I mean, have we brought have we have we got 309 00:18:26.599 --> 00:18:30.119 to that point that the guy next door to you, 310 00:18:30.119 --> 00:18:32.480 you know, he he runs his leaf blower on a 311 00:18:32.519 --> 00:18:35.000 Sunday morning, go on and blow him away. I mean 312 00:18:35.160 --> 00:18:37.359 he boughts to blow of the leaves away. I mean, 313 00:18:37.400 --> 00:18:41.519 where are we going with this this philosophy? 314 00:18:42.640 --> 00:18:46.559 I'm with you one hundred percent, and that's why. And 315 00:18:46.599 --> 00:18:47.279 I'll leave you with this. 316 00:18:47.400 --> 00:18:47.559 Dan. 317 00:18:47.640 --> 00:18:49.720 It's like, and you always do a good you know, 318 00:18:49.799 --> 00:18:52.359 your shows are always excellent. I've been listening for years. 319 00:18:52.519 --> 00:18:54.799 I think all a few times, but I will say 320 00:18:54.799 --> 00:18:57.960 that I think the remedy and it's like it's utopian. 321 00:18:58.000 --> 00:19:02.440 But imagine democrats, that Republicans, left right, whatever it is, 322 00:19:02.799 --> 00:19:05.759 if we all have like leadership that we like really 323 00:19:05.799 --> 00:19:09.039 trusted and loved as a collective. I mean, if that 324 00:19:09.039 --> 00:19:13.079 could ever happen, you know, elected leadership that like would 325 00:19:13.079 --> 00:19:15.400 be trust and that do things that they say they're 326 00:19:15.440 --> 00:19:18.480 gonna do when people feel the material conditions change in 327 00:19:18.480 --> 00:19:21.799 their lives, you know, according to what the elected officials say. 328 00:19:21.799 --> 00:19:24.240 I mean that that's what we really need. It's like, 329 00:19:24.319 --> 00:19:27.000 I don't know, it's you know, just when you touch 330 00:19:27.039 --> 00:19:29.559 on the big beautiful bill, it's such a convoluted like, 331 00:19:31.079 --> 00:19:34.920 you know, just mishmash of different issues with UH, it's 332 00:19:34.960 --> 00:19:38.720 just politics as usual. Like as far as I'm concerned. 333 00:19:39.200 --> 00:19:41.960 You never saw the movie like Distinguished Gentleman back in 334 00:19:42.000 --> 00:19:45.720 the day with Eddie Murphy, And one of the best 335 00:19:45.759 --> 00:19:48.480 lines is just like Eddie Murphy gets elected in Congress, 336 00:19:48.480 --> 00:19:51.160 he says, like, you know, how does everything ever get done? 337 00:19:51.200 --> 00:19:54.079 And then another congressman says it doesn't. That's the beauty 338 00:19:54.119 --> 00:19:56.880 of Congress. And it's just like, you know, things like 339 00:19:56.920 --> 00:19:59.799 that the bills of you know, not to mishmash the 340 00:19:59.839 --> 00:20:01.440 two issues Dan petition. 341 00:20:01.799 --> 00:20:05.960 I just did be saying, but but here's the deal, okay, namely, 342 00:20:06.319 --> 00:20:10.559 any other form of government that you'd like to live under. 343 00:20:13.319 --> 00:20:18.880 UH, from a That's a very good question. I mean, 344 00:20:19.240 --> 00:20:22.920 if there was a utopian application of any type of ideology, 345 00:20:24.480 --> 00:20:28.799 it would it would have to be socialism with nationalist characteristics. 346 00:20:29.039 --> 00:20:31.680 Well but but what I'm saying is this, this socialism 347 00:20:31.680 --> 00:20:34.640 with national characteristics, you can move to Sweden and Denmark. 348 00:20:36.640 --> 00:20:39.240 Yeah, but that's not But but I'm from America, my 349 00:20:40.039 --> 00:20:42.240 fourth generation. This is my blood, you know. 350 00:20:43.839 --> 00:20:45.839 What I'm saying. What I'm saying is that there are 351 00:20:45.880 --> 00:20:49.839 people who would love to live in North Korea. Like 352 00:20:49.920 --> 00:20:52.519 this guy who's now going to be the potential mayor 353 00:20:52.559 --> 00:20:55.880 of New York. He wants to he he would love 354 00:20:55.920 --> 00:20:59.920 to get us back to like uh and you know 355 00:21:00.480 --> 00:21:03.559 nineteen seventeen Bolshevik Soviet Union. 356 00:21:03.680 --> 00:21:06.559 I mean, well, hold on a second, like ju Cha 357 00:21:07.079 --> 00:21:13.599 is a is an ultra nationalist, uh, you know ideology 358 00:21:13.640 --> 00:21:17.519 that's you know, practiced in North Korea. The Bolshevik Revolution 359 00:21:17.720 --> 00:21:21.440 was Actually there's a great boat book by Professor Sutton 360 00:21:22.319 --> 00:21:26.119 out of Iowa, Iowa State called The Walls Wall Street Bolsheviks. 361 00:21:26.160 --> 00:21:30.119 I mean it talks about how the Trotskyites were literally 362 00:21:30.400 --> 00:21:33.880 funded by Warburg and I mean they were funded by 363 00:21:33.880 --> 00:21:38.640 Wall Street, which is ironic, and to deploy you know, 364 00:21:39.559 --> 00:21:42.200 you know, workers of the world unite if you will 365 00:21:42.279 --> 00:21:45.160 right under you know, and to it to take out 366 00:21:45.160 --> 00:21:48.759 the czar in Russia. It's not you know, it's it's 367 00:21:48.839 --> 00:21:52.599 not the that was a much more violent uh. 368 00:21:53.279 --> 00:21:56.799 You know, it always is violent. It's violent in in 369 00:21:56.880 --> 00:22:00.480 North Korea because if if you step out of line. 370 00:22:01.559 --> 00:22:04.279 The the guy in North Korea killed like his brother 371 00:22:04.319 --> 00:22:10.000 in law, he used a an anti aircraft gun to 372 00:22:10.160 --> 00:22:13.119 have him killed. He didn't he didn't hit him with 373 00:22:13.160 --> 00:22:15.880 an M sixteen. I didn't hit him with a kalishn 374 00:22:15.880 --> 00:22:20.079 of cough and anti aircraft gun is how he shot 375 00:22:20.200 --> 00:22:23.839 and killed his brother in law or his one a 376 00:22:23.880 --> 00:22:28.720 member of his family. I become on. I have no 377 00:22:28.799 --> 00:22:34.920 idea Eric, the problem the problem without you live Eric. Eric, 378 00:22:35.359 --> 00:22:38.200 in my opinion, you live in the best country in 379 00:22:38.240 --> 00:22:41.359 the world. You and I were to be born here. 380 00:22:41.440 --> 00:22:45.519 Okay, discuss these issues without having any type of. 381 00:22:46.920 --> 00:22:47.559 Censorship. 382 00:22:47.960 --> 00:22:50.640 Oh no, there's no censorship, right And what I'm what 383 00:22:50.640 --> 00:22:52.759 I'm saying is and there's no censorship on the show. 384 00:22:53.079 --> 00:22:56.319 But as someone once said, and I I forget who 385 00:22:56.319 --> 00:22:58.680 it was, I should I should should have remembered it 386 00:22:59.759 --> 00:23:04.079 that that we have the worst form of government except 387 00:23:04.079 --> 00:23:04.839 for all the others. 388 00:23:07.839 --> 00:23:09.279 That's that's why I agree. 389 00:23:10.000 --> 00:23:11.640 I got Eric, I got Eric. 390 00:23:11.920 --> 00:23:13.880 Eric. We've stumbled through ten minutes. 391 00:23:15.240 --> 00:23:17.119 You're the best. I appreciate you thinking of my call 392 00:23:17.160 --> 00:23:18.559 as always, Dan, thank you so much. 393 00:23:18.559 --> 00:23:20.680 Welcome. That's a great night. Here comes the news at 394 00:23:20.680 --> 00:23:23.759 the bottom of the hour. We'll uh, we'll take some 395 00:23:23.920 --> 00:23:26.480 I got Emma coming up. I'm looking forward to talk 396 00:23:26.599 --> 00:23:30.039 with Emma. I have no idea. I have no idea. 397 00:23:30.480 --> 00:23:36.599 Patrick and Eric explained problems, but you've left me there. 398 00:23:36.680 --> 00:23:42.599 It's like, Okay, the roof is leaking on my house. Okay, 399 00:23:43.119 --> 00:23:48.119 the water's coming in and in the wintertime it's freezing. Okay, 400 00:23:48.599 --> 00:23:51.640 what do we do to fix it? Back on Nightside, 401 00:23:53.039 --> 00:23:59.839