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Speaker 1: Hudson River Radio dot Com. Right, you little monsters, you

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have a week in Scotland's shame.

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Speaker 2: Hey, this is Jesse Carmichael from Room five.

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Speaker 3: Hi, this is Phil Margol of the Tokens.

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Speaker 4: Hello.

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Speaker 5: It's Nicole Atkins on the Rock and Roll History Show.

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Speaker 6: Hey, everybody, welcome back to the Rock and Roll History

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Show and Hudson River Radio. I'm Brian Horowitz. Tonight is

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the next installment of our limited run of well instruments

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we don't like. I hate to say it that way,

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but that's the.

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Speaker 3: Way it is.

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Speaker 6: And tonight happens to be my turn. I will disclose

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my least favorite instrument in just a moment and then

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catch all the heat that will be coming my way

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for it. But before we hop in, allow me to

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introduce all the crambones who are joining us here tonight.

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First and foremost, from the Richter Observatory, he says, jokes

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about mountains are always funny because they're hill areas.

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Speaker 3: How are you doing?

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Speaker 7: Everybody that is hill hilarious, isn't it?

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Speaker 4: Yeah?

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Speaker 6: And from paranormally yours, she says, it's rude when people

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cough near you. They should be coughing far away.

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Speaker 3: From you.

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Speaker 6: So if somebody coughs near you, you yell far cough.

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Speaker 8: I wish I could have done that at work.

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Speaker 3: Wait, I don't get it. You could you?

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Speaker 6: Here, Gale, She'll tell you.

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Speaker 3: Could you say it again a few times?

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Speaker 6: Well, welcome back Gil from the silver screen. She walked

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into a bar and the bartender said, Hey, I have

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this super absorbent wine that's very absorbent when you drink it.

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It's called pino more.

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Speaker 7: Only if only brilliant. Hey, everybody, And.

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Speaker 6: Last, but not least, the host of shaving cream. She says,

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salads can sometimes be dry. It's something that needs addressing.

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Speaker 7: Barbara Ville here, Well, you're not wrong.

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Speaker 1: We'll just wash it down with some of the money.

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Speaker 6: All right. I guess I have to disclose. My least

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favorite instrument really is the bagpipes. And I think it's

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just from my experience in the first responder world, working

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all these parades where the pipe and drum bands walk

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past and they all play that one song and only

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that one song, And I understand how hard the bagpipes

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are to play, but oh man, it just wears me down.

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So I think that's killed my spirit. So our deal

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when we do these episodes is the person who doesn't

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like the instrument doesn't have to pick a song. But

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I felt like I should do something, so I wrote

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up a little thing about the history of the bagpipes.

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Should I go over that real quick?

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Speaker 8: And then nobody else thinks, all right, and there's bagpipes

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from different countries there are.

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Speaker 6: That was actually one of the things I was going

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to point out. So when we think of the bagpipes,

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especially when I think of the bagpipes, we think Scotland,

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we think Ireland. The pipes in history are believed to

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have come only second to percussion instruments, like one of

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the first instruments that was ever made by people. It

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started with hollowed bones or stalks.

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Speaker 7: Or branches like a ditcherdo with the circular breathing.

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Speaker 6: Along the same lines. Yeah, yeah, same idea. The ancient

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Romans are the ones who added the reservoir, the bag

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that gets squeezed. Now Nero played the bagpipes, not the fiddle,

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while Rome was burning, so you know, historically, speaking from

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their variations of bag pipes just spread around the world.

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They were played in churches in the Middle Ages. King

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Henry eighth enjoyed the bagpipes while he was sitting on

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the royal throne, which was a big deal if you

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know that little bit of history which we're not going

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to go into. You know what I mean by royal throne.

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Speaker 6: So it was an event. Yeah, I don't know the stool,

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yes exactly. Yeah, I wasn't going to, but you brought

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us into it. But yeah, that was the thing. Apparently

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it was an honor to be there, and I don't

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need that kind of honor, so I'm glad I wasn't

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around that time. So when we think of the bagpipes,

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we're talking about the Scottish Great Highland bagpipe. It needs

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an air supply, not the band air supply as in,

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like the person playing it.

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Speaker 9: They would be very busy.

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Speaker 3: That would be two strikes, you.

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Speaker 6: Know, And I'm right there with you.

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Speaker 8: Yeah, they annoyed me to begin with.

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air supply. The bag which holds a reservoir of air

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that's held under the arm and it's squeezed to push

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air through the chanter read which vibrates as air passes

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into the chanter. The chanter which looks like the recorder

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that we all had to play in elementary school. Remember

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that that has finger holes that change the pitch when

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you cover them. Some bagpipe. Some bagpipes can have two

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or three chanters. Think of you know Alex Lifland with

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the double neck guitars. Just two chanters, not the same thing.

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a chanter without the finger holes that just holds the

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same note the whole time you're playing. Air goes through

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a read and the drone is the tonic note of

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that instrument. Bagpipes don't use exactly the same temperate scale

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that we're used to hearing. The bagpipes used equally spaced notes,

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so they're closer to They start on an A, go

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from A to A their scale, so it's basically more

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like ABC E sharp D E F sharp G natural

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Speaker 7: So that those are be able to remember that.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, so you're not taking up the bagpipes.

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Speaker 7: Uh maybe I am.

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Speaker 8: Now, Okay, let's all take up the bagpipes and annoy

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Bryan ring it.

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Speaker 1: Just give me an extra inhaler and I'm in there.

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Speaker 3: You go.

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Speaker 6: I wonder if you can hook up like a nebulizer

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Speaker 1: Oh my gosh, that would just drown out the noise

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of the bagpipe, and we don't want.

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Speaker 6: That, or yeah, yeah, I kind of do. So going

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back to the bag early on, it was made from

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animal skins because that was what was available. Nowadays they're

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usually gortex or synthetics. Either way, you're blowing your warm,

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moist breath into an enclosed, dark, warm moist reservoir. So

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what can happen? Yeah, so the fun guy, the mold

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can grow. If they're not properly disassembled and cleaned, which

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they almost always are to their credit, pipers can theoretically

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get what's known as bagpipe long causing coughing, shortness of breath,

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or a lesions from infections. It sounds gross, it makes

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for a good story, but it's actually super super rare

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because pipers are generally responsible people and disinfect what like

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Speaker 3: Maybe nowadays, yeah, but back.

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Speaker 6: Then, before we knew what germs were and all that. Yeah,

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whiskey would finish, would fix whatever the problems are. Certainly

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couldn't hurt. So that's why I had the occasional whiskey,

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so I don't get bagpipers lungs, even though I've never

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ever ever played a bagpipe in my life.

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Speaker 3: That happen.

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Speaker 8: Well, friend, just be glad you're not the British monarch so.

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Speaker 6: I don't have to sit on the stool and be admired.

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Speaker 8: There is a piper to the Sovereign who with Queen

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Elizabeth the second he would wake her up or whatever

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at nine am. I think she was probably up sooner

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than that, but he would play at nine am for

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fifteen minutes and apparently I don't know if the time

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is still the same, but King Charles still has the

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royal piper, you know, play in the morning, and he

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Speaker 6: Because she wanted to be full of rage when she's

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Speaker 8: And the Piper to the Sovereign goes everywhere with the

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sovereigns so they don't have to miss a day.

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Speaker 6: I honestly can only imagine what that has to go

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Speaker 3: A lot of whiskey, I think, yeah.

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Speaker 6: I'm guessing you have to know somebody, or be related

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Speaker 1: I just looked up the ICD ten code for bagpipers,

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look because I was curious. Now, for those of you

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that aren't familiar, in ICD dent code is like international

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classification of diseases that has to be on medical claims

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when they are filed. And the closest thing I could

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find is J six seven point eight, which is hyper

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sensitivity pneumoniitis due to other organic dusts.

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Speaker 7: Okay, all right, Brian, I do want to jump in

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with a story, but you tell me when go ahead. Okay,

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So last weekend I went to see a friend of

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mine who is doing a one man show. I grew

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up with this guy since kindergarten and it's he's doing

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this one man show called Officer the Story of a

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South Bronx Cup.

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Speaker 1: So he.

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Speaker 7: Plays the bagpipes, okay, and he has played his His

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website is the Royal Piper because he has played for

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the Queen like more than a handful of times. He

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also has played for Mother Teresa. And Mother Teresa and

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Princess Diana were like confidants. They were like good friends.

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And Diana had come in to see Mother Teresa in

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New York with my friend where my friend Al was

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and he was with them, and she Princess Diana had

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to get to Teeterborough Airport and there was like some

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parade going on or something. I think it was a

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Puerto Rican Day parade, and Al said, get in the

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car with me, I'll take you. And of course got

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stuck in the parade because he you know, it was

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before you know, Google maps and all that. And she

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rolled down the window and started waving to other people.

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Some guy like stuck his whole head in the door

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Speaker 8: Oh my god.

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Speaker 9: So it was.

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Speaker 7: It was a fascinating play. It was all about his

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experience in the South Bronxon. Yeah, it was really great.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, worth looking up. So I will admit that there

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they do the Military Tattoo, which is an international festival,

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and the drawbridge comes down in hundreds, if not thousands,

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of pipers and drummers come walking out from countries around

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the world. Unbelievable. I will if that was my introduction

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and normal experience with the bagpipes, we would not be

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here today. But there's also a reason why they're playing

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at this military tattoo and you know, not your local

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thanks to Saint Patti's Day parade. What can I say,

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but here we are. So the rest of the show,

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I just get to sit back and be tortured. So

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I guess we might as well hop in and Barbara

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take it away, all right.

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Speaker 1: So my song just has bagpipes in the beginning of

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the song. So I tried not to torture you too much,

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but you still may find it a little unpleasant if

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you really hate bagpipes that much. The song I've chosen

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for this topic is called Shoots and Ladders. It's by Corn,

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and Shoots is spelled shoots, not cud, and I will

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is known as an American new metal band. They formed

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in nineteen ninety three. They got their start by making

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a demo tape called Niedermeyer's Mind and distribute it free

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to record companies and to the public. When trying to

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come up with a name for the band, it was

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and they rejected that. Band member James Schaeffer had the

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idea to call themselves Korn, but with a K. I

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think backwards are like toys r Us used because many

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of the band members previously worked there. Shoots and Ladders

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was released in nineteen ninety five as the band's third

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single off their self titled debut album. So I've Got

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a bit more But let's pause here and cat.

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Speaker 2: Listen Well says fuck your block.

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Speaker 10: Cow says ashis ascious way of fault three, Hello louses,

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I get the luck couches Ashious houses.

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Speaker 4: Way out fo.

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six cock ups E seven, Agela.

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Speaker 5: Much name mag Patty went and give a tug a bone.

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The so man came rolling home, and Patty wouldn't give

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a dog a bone.

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Speaker 3: This so man came Rod.

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Speaker 4: Do it all right, Bob, somebody why you're doing to

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a dog?

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Speaker 13: Because that's all right, I'm rolling m' not abody.

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Speaker 2: Why you're going on the ball.

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Speaker 14: That's all like, I'm rolling club and not a body

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why you're going on the ball.

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Speaker 4: That's so nice?

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Speaker 5: Checking me we had to look as no Mary got

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much said, it's not win no Mary about showing Mary.

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Speaker 4: Mary the body?

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Speaker 3: Do you marry?

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Speaker 4: The Father's not America.

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Speaker 13: The boter going.

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Speaker 3: I guess.

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Speaker 12: So Sam says, Wow.

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Speaker 1: Totally gonna sing every nursery rhyme like that.

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Speaker 6: They should teach that angry teaching in kindergarten and raised

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the next generation of very angry kids.

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Speaker 1: Yes, I'm totally gonna sing every nursery rhom like I'm angry.

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Speaker 7: They might get all their expression out like that.

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Speaker 6: And it's all public domain. You don't have to pay anybody.

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There you go.

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Speaker 8: So.

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Speaker 1: Shoots and Letters is the first of Korn's songs to

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incorporate bagpipes. The song's title refers to the American game

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of shoots and ladder is a metaphor for LIFs, ups

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and downs. The song's lyrics mostly consist of nursery rhymes,

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and the nursery rhymes heard in the song are ring

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around the rosy one two buckle, my shoe, London Bridge

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is falling down, Baba black sheep, this oldman and Mary

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had a little lamb. The concept behind the song is

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that the nursery rhymes have dark origins behind them, and

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the children singing them don't know what they really mean.

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six with their album Life Is Peachy, followed by the

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nineteen ninety eight album Follow the Leader. Mainstream's success was

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attained in nineteen ninety nine with the album called Issues.

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The latter two albums debuted at number one on the

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Billboard two hundred. Shoots and Ladders earn Cornogrammy nomination for

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Best Metal Performance, and in conclusion of all all the

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factoids I found while researching Corn, I picked out my

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favorite and I want to share it with you. Corn

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produced a weekly online TV show called corn TV prior

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to the release of their third album, Follow the Leader,

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which documented the making of the album and allowed fans

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to call in and ask questions. This was one of

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the first times the band use the Internet in such

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a way. The show featured special guests such as Ron Jeremy, Limp, Biscuit,

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and three eleven and There You have That. Follow the

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Leader album featured guest vocalists such as Fred Durst of Limp,

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Biscuit ice Cube and there's a hidden track on the

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album featuring cheech Maren's earache my eye and that that's

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why it's my favorite factoid.

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Speaker 3: I love that. I'm just you know, Ron Jeremy and

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a bagpipe, I just you know, oh my eyes.

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Speaker 1: Well, so I wish to end by saying I happen

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to love bagpipes as I tend to associate instruments with experiences.

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And my childhood friend's dad was an Irish New York

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City police officer and he used to practice bad pipes

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in the house. Well, my friend and I were playing

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in the backyard and we used to stop what we

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were doing and go stand under the window and listen

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to him practice, and we just love to listen.

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Speaker 3: I get it.

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Speaker 6: I you know. That's why I am conflicted because I

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have friends who play in local pipe and drum bands,

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and they like the camaraderie is wonderful. I'm all about

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people hanging out and making music and doing that part

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of it is fantastic. It's just the sound that comes

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out of it is.

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Speaker 3: Could it be like a version therapy or whatever you

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want to call it, Like, you know, you were at

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work and you heard it while you were working, so that.

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Speaker 6: Could absolutely I'm very well, yeah, all in context.

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Speaker 1: That would make sense.

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Speaker 8: Yeah, I'm trying to figure out which song Ryan says

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that they play every single time at a parade.

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Speaker 3: Well, they just sound the same. I think it's a

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different song. It just all sounds like.

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Speaker 6: The screaming two year old under your army.

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Speaker 3: No, that's an insult to a screaming two year old.

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Speaker 6: Could very well be.

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Speaker 8: I mean they play Scotland the Brave a lot. Maybe

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that's it.

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Speaker 6: Well, let's find out. Why don't we take a break

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because I know I need one already and we'll be

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back with more. So stick around, Hudson River Radio dot Com.

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Your dad likes us.

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Speaker 9: This concludes the first part of this cassette. Please turn

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Speaker 3: Scotland.

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Speaker 2: Twelve years and I've only let in one song, Hudson.

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Speaker 6: River Radio dot Com and welcome back. I was trying

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not to laugh that is there you Go. That's the

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one song I know, and that seems to be the

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only song I have ever heard until I made it

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to Scotland, where they played something else.

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Speaker 3: There you Go.

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Speaker 6: So I'm really a victim here.

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Speaker 3: You gotta be brave to listen to that. I mean, yeah, yeah, hey,

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and I'm I'm I'm part Scottish, so you know that

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that's the song of my people and they can have it.

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Speaker 9: Well as the big.

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Speaker 1: Tricky I am. They of course played Amazing Grace when

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Spock died at the end of Star Trek.

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Speaker 6: Yes, yeah, but I've heard Amazing Grace a million times

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on other instruments and it's.

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Speaker 8: Just not the same guitars, organs.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, yeah, all right.

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Speaker 7: For a funeral, it's gotta be bagpipes. Is that what

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you're saying?

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Speaker 8: Police officer or Irish or maybe a firefighter, I don't.

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Speaker 1: A Vulcan science officer.

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Speaker 3: Yeah. It does have like a mournful sound to it,

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there is.

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Speaker 6: It does make me cry.

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Speaker 8: Yes, well yeah, but you know there are pieces for

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bagpipes called laments.

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Speaker 3: Properly named, aren't they all?

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Speaker 6: But yeah, all right, let's get this torture over with, Gail,

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go for it.

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Speaker 8: Oh okay. I picked a song that I had never

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heard before, by a band that I love and wish

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I would get to see someday. The band is Echo

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and the Bunny Men. They're an English rock band and

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they were formed in Liverpool in nineteen seventy eight. The

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original lineup was vocalist In McCall, guitarist Will Sargent and

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bassist Lee Pattinson. In nineteen eighty, Pete de Freitas joined

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as the band's drummer, and he replaced the former use

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of the drum machine.

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Speaker 6: So usually you don't hear that. It's usually the other

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way around. So yeah, I'd lad to hear that.

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Speaker 8: Their nineteen eighty debut album, Crocodiles, went into the top

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twenty of the UK album's charts. After they released their

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second album, Heaven up Here in nineteen eighty one, The

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band's cult status was followed by mainstream success in the

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UK in nineteen eighty three, when they scored a UK

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Top ten hit with the Cutter, and the album which

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the song came from, Porcupine hit number two in the

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UK on Sire Records, Ooh Nice, Let's See Where did

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I Leave Off? After they released a self titled album

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in nineteen eighty seven, the lead singer McCulloch left the

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band and was replaced by singer Noel Burke. In nineteen

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eighty nine, the drummer was killed in a motorcycle accident

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and the Bunnymen later disbanded in nineteen ninety three after

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working together as a artist called Electrofic. Mccullocha and Sergeant

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regrouped with Pattinson in nineteen ninety seven and returned as

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Echo and the Bundymen before Mattinson's departure in nineteen ninety eight.

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Bands seem to have people that come and go different incarnations,

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I guess les Pattinson quit to take care of his mother.

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McCulloch and Sargent have continued to tour and record as

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Echo and the Bunnyman, touring repeatedly and releasing more albums.

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The band have toured and released several albums since the

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late nineteen nineties, to varying degrees of success. In more

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recent years, the band have headlined the Rockaway Beach Festival twice.

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That Sounds Like Fun. The song The Cutter was rated

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at number fourteen among the tracks of the Year for

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nineteen eighty three by NME. In a retrospective review of

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The Cutter, All music journalist Tom McGinnis wrote, Echo and

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the Bunnyman successfully wed the Eastern influenced psychedelic sounds made

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famous by the Beatles. The eastern strings re enter at

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strategic points, filling in space between verses and Ian McCullough's

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esoteric Please to spare us the cutter. The track never

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loses steam, cruising through each section with power and grace.

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I have some more stuff to tell you afterwards.

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Speaker 2: Let's have what's wait and the fame and give.

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Speaker 4: Spares the cutter. Try to cut the.

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Speaker 13: Master, conquer it my sell motil, I say, mother of

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frot it say we can say wewhere else Naptiste rubbing

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the r s contant gray ball.

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Speaker 4: Would sell it.

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Speaker 13: Take my note some of the six feet tall.

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Speaker 4: We will spain more lies.

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Speaker 13: Spares the cutter. Spares the cutter, try to cut the

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my mamster, conerate my cell until I set say say

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just another dropping.

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Speaker 3: Aroun the hotey loss.

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Speaker 12: Really still recall.

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Speaker 2: When the skill is lost, altar falls.

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Speaker 12: Swell like still this side.

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Speaker 2: When the judges are.

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Speaker 4: My cell until I see.

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Speaker 13: Said the week saying we will man from made or sis.

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Speaker 4: It's nus comes.

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Speaker 13: Talk co.

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Speaker 4: My happy squirrel scam.

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Speaker 13: Man skins lows amount of moneys were scamy.

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Speaker 11: So we.

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Speaker 8: Well, this must be a different version than what I heard,

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because I didn't hear bagpipes in this sounds.

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Speaker 6: Like synthesized bagpipes. I thought that's what you were going for.

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Speaker 8: Well, actually I don't know. The version I heard was

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a lot more bagpipe. But as it turns out, what

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in wherever the bagpipe part was in the bridge of

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the cutter is actually a heavily processed and modulated electric violin.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, that's okay, I found out. I heard that that's

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what they were going for, so it's there.

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Speaker 8: Yeah, the band's brought in Indian virtuos virtuoso El Shankar

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to play a sweeping, exotic violin part, which gives the

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track its distinctive Eastern psychedelic character and soaring pipe like vibrato.

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Speaker 3: I think I saw that guy L Shankar play with

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Frank Zappa one time. Really Yeah, No, no, not Robie Shankar, No, no, no,

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El Shankar. Yeah, he played the violin. No, I know

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the difference. I know my Shankar is Brian Duly know it.

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Speaker 6: I'll be quiet.

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Speaker 3: But it was hard to tell because he was dressed

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in a chicken suit. So what.

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Speaker 9: Yeah, as one does, of course, if.

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Speaker 3: You're in Frank Zappa's band, yeah you do.

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Speaker 8: He should go to tractor supply they would love him.

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and dramatic texture that matched the intensity of Ian McCullough's vocals.

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for listeners to mistake the wailing sound for bagpipes or

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and Brian, I don't know what this is, but you

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might an e bowde guitar.

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Speaker 6: Sounds like just an electric guitar that's played with a bow,

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you know, like Jimmy Page did kind of thing. Yeah,

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that's been around a while.

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Speaker 8: Okay, so in nineteen eighty three, according to my research,

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it didn't chart here, which I don't know. That's kind

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of weird. But in Australia it charted at sixty seven.

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Irish Singles charted at number ten, New Zealand charted at

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number ti thirty and the UK Singles Chart they charted

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at number eight. Now it's interesting because it says the

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00:35:15,599 --> 00:35:19,320
enigmatic title comes from an English slang term for money

473
00:35:19,800 --> 00:35:22,880
from the nineteen seventy one film A Clockwork Orange, which

474
00:35:22,920 --> 00:35:23,719
I've never seen.

475
00:35:24,480 --> 00:35:27,119
Speaker 1: You don't want to, okay, not your type of film.

476
00:35:27,159 --> 00:35:34,079
Speaker 8: Gil definitely not okay, And well, I can handle anything

477
00:35:34,880 --> 00:35:39,960
that happens to people in movies, but animals, know did

478
00:35:40,000 --> 00:35:42,199
they Is there animal stuff in there?

479
00:35:45,239 --> 00:35:48,440
Speaker 3: I don't remember the animal parts, but they acted like animals.

480
00:35:49,559 --> 00:35:51,159
Speaker 9: I don't remember animals at all.

481
00:35:51,280 --> 00:35:53,079
Speaker 1: It's like really really graphic.

482
00:35:54,000 --> 00:36:04,119
Speaker 8: Wow. Anyway, the lead singer has just described the song

483
00:36:04,320 --> 00:36:08,199
as exploring the three different aspects of a man, one

484
00:36:08,280 --> 00:36:17,039
of which is a nod to himself. He stated that

485
00:36:17,519 --> 00:36:21,800
the song looks at different facets of the cutter because

486
00:36:22,000 --> 00:36:25,159
he himself is six feet tall. He pointed out that

487
00:36:25,320 --> 00:36:28,800
one of the aspects is meant to represent himself in

488
00:36:28,920 --> 00:36:35,679
his own autobiographical struggles with depression and pressure during that era.

489
00:36:37,239 --> 00:36:41,519
And that's all I got. It didn't sound very bagpipe

490
00:36:41,679 --> 00:36:41,920
to me.

491
00:36:42,079 --> 00:36:44,320
Speaker 9: But but it doesn't have to.

492
00:36:44,599 --> 00:36:47,639
Speaker 1: I mean, if it's something that you looked up and

493
00:36:47,960 --> 00:36:51,119
they were talking about, well, bagpipe sound in it.

494
00:36:51,519 --> 00:36:55,159
Speaker 8: And like I said, the version I heard sounded very bagpipe.

495
00:36:57,360 --> 00:37:01,280
Speaker 6: All right, so maybe I I got lucky.

496
00:37:01,440 --> 00:37:04,280
Speaker 3: Is that the technical the technical term bagpipe?

497
00:37:04,719 --> 00:37:06,239
Speaker 8: Yes, it's very disruptive.

498
00:37:07,000 --> 00:37:11,400
Speaker 6: You know exactly what's going on. So yeah, yeah, all right,

499
00:37:12,480 --> 00:37:14,800
thank you, Gail Neil, your turn.

500
00:37:16,039 --> 00:37:19,239
Speaker 3: Okay, the bagpipe song I've chosen for today has a

501
00:37:19,400 --> 00:37:22,800
bit of a twist to it. But uh, it's by

502
00:37:22,880 --> 00:37:25,920
the band Big Country, and it's their nineteen eighty three

503
00:37:26,039 --> 00:37:29,679
hit in a Big Country. But before I announced the

504
00:37:29,800 --> 00:37:32,920
big reveal about the song, let's talk about the band.

505
00:37:34,480 --> 00:37:37,679
Big Country were and Are a Scottish rock band that

506
00:37:37,840 --> 00:37:42,760
formed in nineteen eighty one. Originally a five piece band,

507
00:37:42,920 --> 00:37:46,440
the classic lineup trimmed down to four and they came

508
00:37:46,480 --> 00:37:49,960
together about a year later, consisting of lead singer and

509
00:37:50,119 --> 00:37:55,800
guitarist Stuart Adamson, guitarist Bruce Watson, bassist Tony Butler and

510
00:37:55,960 --> 00:38:02,159
drummer Mark Braziki. The band's single called Harvest Home was

511
00:38:02,239 --> 00:38:05,480
released in nineteen eighty two. It had some modest success,

512
00:38:05,599 --> 00:38:09,960
but it failed to reach the UK Singles charts. But

513
00:38:10,159 --> 00:38:14,159
their next single, called Fields of Fire, from their nineteen

514
00:38:14,199 --> 00:38:18,159
eighty three album called The Crossing, reached the top ten

515
00:38:18,480 --> 00:38:22,760
over in the UK. Now it was from that album

516
00:38:23,880 --> 00:38:27,079
because that album became a big hit here in the US,

517
00:38:27,360 --> 00:38:29,480
and it was due mostly to the song We're About

518
00:38:29,559 --> 00:38:34,320
to Hear And it was their only US Top forty single,

519
00:38:34,480 --> 00:38:39,079
reaching number seventeen on the Billboard Hot One hundred. It's

520
00:38:39,159 --> 00:38:41,440
in a big country. So let's hear it.

521
00:39:38,920 --> 00:39:43,079
Speaker 2: A singular fact. That's what I have a reason another

522
00:39:43,239 --> 00:39:47,440
BRONI styling to another seas something that says, by.

523
00:39:54,280 --> 00:39:58,360
Speaker 15: The took the style of way from anybody's be that's

524
00:39:58,400 --> 00:39:59,920
a desment way the locus.

525
00:40:00,920 --> 00:40:05,320
Speaker 2: Where's the same time in a big country?

526
00:40:05,559 --> 00:40:10,039
Speaker 14: Dream stay with you like a lover's boys, My from

527
00:40:10,119 --> 00:40:11,719
mount to the side.

528
00:40:13,840 --> 00:40:14,519
Speaker 3: Stay up.

529
00:40:20,880 --> 00:40:24,679
Speaker 13: I'm not not breathing, dumb things are really now.

530
00:40:43,800 --> 00:40:47,679
Speaker 2: I'm not expecting to go hours in the desert, but

531
00:40:47,960 --> 00:40:51,960
I can live a breath and see the sun entire

532
00:40:52,239 --> 00:40:55,079
time in little big country.

533
00:40:55,360 --> 00:40:59,760
Speaker 14: Dream Stay with you like a lover's boys. My from

534
00:40:59,800 --> 00:41:04,239
my home town side, stay.

535
00:41:06,880 --> 00:41:07,920
Speaker 4: In a big.

536
00:41:07,960 --> 00:41:10,239
Speaker 2: Country, dreams, stay with you.

537
00:41:12,000 --> 00:41:17,719
Speaker 14: Storys my from mountawnside, Stay up.

538
00:41:27,840 --> 00:41:29,519
Speaker 4: So take that look out of here.

539
00:41:29,840 --> 00:41:34,000
Speaker 15: It doesn't features because it's happened, doesn't mean you've been

540
00:41:34,079 --> 00:41:39,440
discimoted from the head of the poor up streaming not

541
00:41:39,840 --> 00:41:41,880
forever you never mind the.

542
00:41:43,880 --> 00:41:56,639
Speaker 4: Pain of my name. Many nine guns the same shout

543
00:41:57,320 --> 00:41:58,159
nine times.

544
00:42:00,079 --> 00:42:10,360
Speaker 2: M somebody expects go bounds in desert, but I.

545
00:42:10,400 --> 00:42:11,480
Speaker 3: Can live a breed and.

546
00:42:11,599 --> 00:42:17,320
Speaker 4: See the side time in a big country.

547
00:42:17,599 --> 00:42:18,840
Speaker 2: Dreams, stay with.

548
00:42:19,039 --> 00:42:23,440
Speaker 14: You like a lover's boys by the mountainside.

549
00:42:25,920 --> 00:42:31,800
Speaker 3: Stay in a big Country Dream.

550
00:42:32,119 --> 00:42:37,320
Speaker 2: Stay with you like a lover's boys by the mountain outside.

551
00:42:39,760 --> 00:42:47,119
Speaker 14: Stay in a big country dream, Stay with you like

552
00:42:47,280 --> 00:42:50,679
the lovers. Yes, by the mountain side.

553
00:42:53,239 --> 00:42:53,519
Speaker 4: Stay.

554
00:43:14,159 --> 00:43:14,280
Speaker 8: Now.

555
00:43:14,400 --> 00:43:16,840
Speaker 3: I have to admit I have no idea what the

556
00:43:16,920 --> 00:43:22,079
song lyrically, what the song's about, whatsoever. But just listen

557
00:43:22,159 --> 00:43:26,920
to those bagpipes. Oh wait, oh wait, here's the big

558
00:43:27,039 --> 00:43:31,000
reveal I was talking about. Those aren't bagpipes at all.

559
00:43:31,119 --> 00:43:36,000
They're guitars. They used guitars to sound like bagpipes.

560
00:43:36,159 --> 00:43:37,480
Speaker 8: That's amazing to me.

561
00:43:39,039 --> 00:43:42,760
Speaker 3: Now, the band claimed that the sound came from the

562
00:43:42,880 --> 00:43:48,960
melodies they played, not the guitar tone ah, but the

563
00:43:49,039 --> 00:43:54,679
studio recording. They used multiple overdub guitar effects to achieve

564
00:43:54,840 --> 00:43:59,440
that distinctive bagpipe like sound. So it was actually a

565
00:43:59,519 --> 00:44:03,480
combination of both melody and effects that really made in

566
00:44:03,599 --> 00:44:07,519
a Big Country sounds so unique some of the key

567
00:44:07,559 --> 00:44:11,280
effects and techniques that were used. And I'm not a

568
00:44:11,320 --> 00:44:14,559
guitar player, I'm not even a musician, So I'm going

569
00:44:14,639 --> 00:44:18,039
to try to explain this in layman's terms, and Brian,

570
00:44:18,119 --> 00:44:20,400
you can help me out here with some of this. Well,

571
00:44:20,440 --> 00:44:25,559
they used a delay pedal, which I guess that's got

572
00:44:27,239 --> 00:44:30,000
a wah wah pedal, and who doesn't love the wah

573
00:44:30,079 --> 00:44:30,639
wah pedal.

574
00:44:31,320 --> 00:44:32,880
Speaker 8: Well, that's my favorite thing in the world.

575
00:44:33,239 --> 00:44:39,079
Speaker 3: Oh yeah, and a pitch transposer. Now I don't know

576
00:44:39,159 --> 00:44:43,000
what that is, but they all add harmonic overtones. I

577
00:44:43,039 --> 00:44:46,679
guess that helped create that bright quality of the bagpipes.

578
00:44:46,840 --> 00:44:49,960
Speaker 1: I want to put that on my resume, the wah

579
00:44:50,000 --> 00:44:52,360
wah part, the pitch transport.

580
00:44:52,480 --> 00:44:53,039
Speaker 6: Oh okay.

581
00:44:55,880 --> 00:44:59,519
Speaker 3: Oh, and well, as Gail you mentioned in the last song,

582
00:45:00,039 --> 00:45:03,159
also contributing to the sound, they used something called the ebo,

583
00:45:03,360 --> 00:45:06,519
which is what I've read here was a device that

584
00:45:06,760 --> 00:45:09,719
can make the guitar sound more like a string section,

585
00:45:10,079 --> 00:45:14,559
so that kind of makes sense. Yeah. They also used

586
00:45:14,559 --> 00:45:19,559
an overdriven amplifier and used open chords. So an overdriven

587
00:45:19,599 --> 00:45:21,920
amplifier that's pretty easiest, turn it up to.

588
00:45:21,960 --> 00:45:24,599
Speaker 6: Eleven, yeah, exactly, there you go.

589
00:45:25,559 --> 00:45:29,840
Speaker 3: And open chords. Well, that means leaving a few strings

590
00:45:29,880 --> 00:45:32,679
open to create those drone notes we had talked about

591
00:45:32,760 --> 00:45:36,599
earlier to mimic those of a bagpipe, just sort of

592
00:45:36,639 --> 00:45:44,119
a static note that kind of annoys people. Now when

593
00:45:44,159 --> 00:45:47,039
playing the song live, the technique was a lot simpler.

594
00:45:47,079 --> 00:45:51,000
They just used a delay pedal and a bright amplifier tone,

595
00:45:51,079 --> 00:45:54,079
so they didn't go too crazy on stage. But now

596
00:45:54,159 --> 00:45:56,199
it did take a lot of effects. They were I

597
00:45:56,239 --> 00:45:59,119
think they were trying to like, oh now it's our melodies.

598
00:45:59,239 --> 00:45:59,559
Part of it.

599
00:45:59,599 --> 00:46:01,039
Speaker 6: Sounds like they had a lot of toys that they

600
00:46:01,079 --> 00:46:01,760
wanted to play with.

601
00:46:02,320 --> 00:46:04,480
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, and a lot of these things were all

602
00:46:04,519 --> 00:46:07,199
about so yeah, these things were new back then, and

603
00:46:07,800 --> 00:46:11,400
you know a lot of them in the early mid eighties.

604
00:46:13,639 --> 00:46:17,000
Big Country would continue to release successful albums and singles

605
00:46:17,039 --> 00:46:20,920
throughout the nineteen eighties. In nineteen eighty four, they participated

606
00:46:21,079 --> 00:46:24,239
in the band Aid charity record you Know do they

607
00:46:24,360 --> 00:46:28,599
know It's Christmas Time? You know that one. Also, members

608
00:46:28,639 --> 00:46:32,039
of Big Country played on solo albums by The Who's

609
00:46:32,119 --> 00:46:37,000
Pete Soundsend and Roger Daltrey separately, of course, so they

610
00:46:37,039 --> 00:46:41,199
were who were big fans of Big Big Country. Apparently,

611
00:46:42,280 --> 00:46:45,639
Bassist Tony Butler played on the Pretender's hit single Back

612
00:46:45,679 --> 00:46:50,000
on the Chain Gang, and drummer Braziki played with The

613
00:46:50,199 --> 00:46:53,880
Cult in nineteen eighty five. Incidentally, he would also go

614
00:46:54,000 --> 00:46:57,239
on to play drums in a latter day version of

615
00:46:57,400 --> 00:47:02,480
Procol Harum, which I saw him play with them. But

616
00:47:03,840 --> 00:47:07,199
by the nineteen nineties the band had begun to fall apart,

617
00:47:08,400 --> 00:47:13,079
mainly due to singer student Stuart Adamson's mental health, and tragically,

618
00:47:13,239 --> 00:47:17,440
in December of two thousand and one, Adamson was found

619
00:47:17,480 --> 00:47:21,840
dead by suicide in a hotel room in Hawaii. Now

620
00:47:21,880 --> 00:47:25,480
the three surviving members, they reunited in two thousand and

621
00:47:25,760 --> 00:47:30,119
seven to celebrate the band's twenty fifth anniversary and have

622
00:47:30,320 --> 00:47:35,639
continued with an ever changing lineup ever since. Now. Last year,

623
00:47:35,840 --> 00:47:40,320
I saw an eighties package tour. Yeah, I'm I'm outing myself.

624
00:47:41,840 --> 00:47:46,039
I know I'm about eighties hater, but I'll cop to this.

625
00:47:46,119 --> 00:47:47,920
Speaker 6: There was a lot of stuff going on in the eighties.

626
00:47:48,000 --> 00:47:52,000
Speaker 3: It's not well yeah everything, No, yeah, no, there was

627
00:47:52,039 --> 00:47:53,719
a lot going on, and believe.

628
00:47:53,440 --> 00:47:55,840
Speaker 8: Me, I have a lot of memories from the eighties.

629
00:47:55,960 --> 00:48:01,800
Speaker 3: Yeah. Anyway, this eighties package it was called Lost Eighties

630
00:48:01,920 --> 00:48:05,360
Live and among many others, the headliner was like a

631
00:48:05,400 --> 00:48:06,400
flock of seagulls.

632
00:48:06,519 --> 00:48:11,079
Speaker 7: Okay, so you stayed for that, right of course?

633
00:48:11,199 --> 00:48:12,559
Speaker 6: You run far away?

634
00:48:13,079 --> 00:48:16,840
Speaker 3: No, no, I I was there from the beginning to end.

635
00:48:17,079 --> 00:48:21,800
And there was also your hair like that I wish

636
00:48:21,880 --> 00:48:27,480
I had that much hair left. Anyway, they didn't do

637
00:48:27,599 --> 00:48:28,440
flock of seagulls.

638
00:48:28,480 --> 00:48:30,519
Speaker 6: No, oh, I'm sure he gave that up long ago.

639
00:48:30,760 --> 00:48:34,440
Speaker 3: Oh yeah. Anyway, there was a band there calling myselves

640
00:48:34,760 --> 00:48:38,920
Big Country. Now. I don't know if any original members

641
00:48:39,000 --> 00:48:41,559
were involved or not. They didn't really say, but you

642
00:48:41,639 --> 00:48:45,559
know what they sounded. Okay, and last year that was

643
00:48:46,440 --> 00:48:49,599
in twenty twenty five. That's about all you can ask for.

644
00:48:49,960 --> 00:48:53,280
So there it is Big Country. Thank you. Now go

645
00:48:53,440 --> 00:48:55,519
see a concert. Agreed?

646
00:48:55,880 --> 00:48:59,840
Speaker 6: All right, I need another break because even though they

647
00:48:59,880 --> 00:49:03,480
were not quite bagpipes, they were bagpipe enough to use

648
00:49:03,559 --> 00:49:07,599
galestn that. Uh yeah, I'm gonna step out for a minute.

649
00:49:07,960 --> 00:49:09,559
Speaker 7: You need you need a break before mine?

650
00:49:09,800 --> 00:49:12,679
Speaker 6: Oh good, good, good, Thanks for the heads up. Maybe

651
00:49:12,679 --> 00:49:15,440
I won't come back after this. We'll see stick around,

652
00:49:15,480 --> 00:49:16,239
let's see what happens.

653
00:49:16,960 --> 00:49:18,559
Speaker 3: Hudson River Radio dot com.

654
00:49:28,280 --> 00:49:31,840
Speaker 2: You want my bond, I get bring up the come

655
00:49:32,000 --> 00:49:35,400
one day, lady, No hug a follow.

656
00:49:45,440 --> 00:49:46,440
Speaker 3: We have a pipeer.

657
00:49:46,599 --> 00:49:50,559
Speaker 2: Don I don't repeat A piper is done, Hudson River

658
00:49:50,719 --> 00:49:51,679
Radio dot Com.

659
00:49:52,400 --> 00:49:54,360
Speaker 6: All right, I came back. I felt guilty.

660
00:49:54,840 --> 00:49:57,039
Speaker 3: Did some did somebody step on a duck.

661
00:50:00,079 --> 00:50:01,880
Speaker 6: That is very descriptive.

662
00:50:01,920 --> 00:50:04,840
Speaker 1: I have to write that that just ruined my memories

663
00:50:04,880 --> 00:50:07,199
of the nineteen seventy nine Rod Stewart concert.

664
00:50:07,280 --> 00:50:07,599
Speaker 3: I went to.

665
00:50:11,239 --> 00:50:13,320
Speaker 6: H Yeah, that was a clip from So I Married

666
00:50:13,360 --> 00:50:16,840
an Ex Murderer. For anybody who's wondering, Mike Myers A

667
00:50:17,000 --> 00:50:21,800
love that great movie. That was a funny one. All right, Mercedes,

668
00:50:22,920 --> 00:50:25,199
I am ready to face your threat. Bring it on.

669
00:50:25,920 --> 00:50:30,920
Speaker 7: I'm sorry, Brian, this was a hard one. I usually

670
00:50:31,119 --> 00:50:33,440
think in google around and land on one song for

671
00:50:33,599 --> 00:50:39,400
a topic. That is, of course, but everything was a contenter,

672
00:50:39,599 --> 00:50:43,360
but not the song. There was a lot of songs

673
00:50:43,400 --> 00:50:45,360
I would have liked to use, but when I googled

674
00:50:45,400 --> 00:50:49,400
specifically if they used bagged bagpipes, nine out of ten

675
00:50:49,519 --> 00:50:55,159
times there was no bagpipes. They were as we were discussing, Yes,

676
00:50:55,239 --> 00:50:56,199
it's exactly right.

677
00:50:57,199 --> 00:50:59,719
Speaker 6: It's part of the reason, you know, just a review

678
00:50:59,800 --> 00:51:02,760
for the beginning. Number one, they don't use the tempered

679
00:51:02,760 --> 00:51:04,960
scale that we're used to hearing, so they will always

680
00:51:05,000 --> 00:51:06,920
sound a little bit out of tune compared to like

681
00:51:07,000 --> 00:51:10,119
a rock band or an orchestra, unless the orchestra tunes

682
00:51:10,159 --> 00:51:13,280
to the bagpipe, which they do sometimes. And number two

683
00:51:13,320 --> 00:51:16,000
they're so hard to play, so find someone to play

684
00:51:16,039 --> 00:51:18,199
it right and play it in tune and play it

685
00:51:18,440 --> 00:51:21,480
in that style. And so I get it, and I

686
00:51:21,480 --> 00:51:23,920
should probably be grateful it doesn't happen more often.

687
00:51:24,639 --> 00:51:28,360
Speaker 7: I mean, ACDC, I think that's the Yeah, But.

688
00:51:28,400 --> 00:51:30,800
Speaker 6: They wound up playing with a recording after that because

689
00:51:31,000 --> 00:51:31,880
they tried.

690
00:51:31,800 --> 00:51:35,039
Speaker 7: But because the bagpipes got stolen off the stage.

691
00:51:35,079 --> 00:51:38,639
Speaker 6: Oh they got shredded. People want souvenirs shredded. Yeah, gone.

692
00:51:39,440 --> 00:51:42,519
Now everybody's got bagpipe hands because all the fungus that

693
00:51:42,880 --> 00:51:44,039
strayed everywhere.

694
00:51:45,559 --> 00:51:45,639
Speaker 11: So.

695
00:51:47,119 --> 00:51:50,480
Speaker 7: As I said they were, it really had a hard

696
00:51:50,519 --> 00:51:54,440
time fighting one with real bagpipes, no disrespect, but mine

697
00:51:54,480 --> 00:51:55,679
has real bagpipes.

698
00:51:57,519 --> 00:52:00,960
Speaker 9: Just say that means it's worse more on eBay.

699
00:52:03,079 --> 00:52:06,519
Speaker 7: So they configured the guitar somehow or some other instrument

700
00:52:06,719 --> 00:52:09,119
made it to sound like it. I am a big

701
00:52:09,199 --> 00:52:11,800
fan of Black forty seven, which is an Irish band,

702
00:52:11,920 --> 00:52:17,239
and I look there, but they use Ilien pipes, which

703
00:52:17,440 --> 00:52:21,000
may or may not be the same. But the songs

704
00:52:21,000 --> 00:52:24,800
that were pipe heavy were mostly two morose. Although Maria's

705
00:52:24,840 --> 00:52:27,159
wedding is a favorite of mine, but I think I've

706
00:52:27,239 --> 00:52:30,719
used it on the show before, so I look through

707
00:52:30,760 --> 00:52:33,639
a lot of songs and then I remembered this band

708
00:52:34,199 --> 00:52:38,239
and there it was. Now, this is not the original.

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Speaker 9: As you will hear, but it is a cover and

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I think you will like it, but don't.

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Speaker 4: Expecting int nice.

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Speaker 9: Yes, it is really odd.

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Speaker 6: I didn't hate that. Yes, I don't think I could

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sit through a whole concert of stuff like that.

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Speaker 9: No, I know, same, Yeah, all right.

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00:55:18,159 --> 00:55:21,119
Speaker 7: So the song obviously is Everybody Dance Now, which was

717
00:55:21,199 --> 00:55:24,880
originally by C and C Music Factory and their song

718
00:55:25,119 --> 00:55:27,960
was going to make you sweat Everybody Dance Now. This

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version is by the Red Hot Chili Pipers.

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Speaker 8: Okay them, I've actually heard of them.

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Speaker 7: Yes, they're Red Hot Chili Pipers are a Celtic rock

722
00:55:39,519 --> 00:55:43,199
band from Scotland, formed in two thousand and two. Many

723
00:55:43,239 --> 00:55:46,199
of the band members past and present have competed that

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at the highest levels of bag piping and drumming for

725
00:55:50,039 --> 00:55:55,000
many years. Founder and former musical director Stuart Cassel's received

726
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the BBC Radio Scotland Young Traditional Musician Award in two

727
00:56:00,519 --> 00:56:03,679
thousand and five and became the first person to attain

728
00:56:03,920 --> 00:56:10,079
a degree in bagpipes from the Royal Conservatoire of Scotland,

729
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formerly the Royal Scottish Academy of Music and Drama. The

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00:56:15,239 --> 00:56:20,599
Pipers have combined guitars, keyboards, drums and their bagpipes to

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create the bag rock sound.

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Speaker 3: I love.

733
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Speaker 7: The band's lineup features three Highland bagpipers and traditional marching

734
00:56:31,519 --> 00:56:35,159
snare backed by a five to seven piece band. The

735
00:56:35,280 --> 00:56:40,679
band's live show features vocal performances and Highland dancing, which

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if you look up this video and watch it you

737
00:56:43,480 --> 00:56:47,679
will see the dancers on the front. It's really worth seeing.

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In two thousand and four they got a massive boost

739
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in their career when they were asked to appear with

740
00:56:53,239 --> 00:56:57,719
the band The Darkness. But their career really launched when

741
00:56:57,800 --> 00:57:00,559
in two thousand and seven, The Red Hot Chili Pipers

742
00:57:01,480 --> 00:57:04,199
I have to keep making sure that I say Pipers

743
00:57:05,199 --> 00:57:08,199
appeared on the BBC show When Will I Be Famous?

744
00:57:08,760 --> 00:57:12,920
They won the competition against seven other contestants. They have

745
00:57:13,079 --> 00:57:18,159
released ten albums Can You Imagine The band's first studio release.

746
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First studio released, The Red Hot Chili Pipers two thousand

747
00:57:25,000 --> 00:57:28,679
and five was their least successful. Their two thousand and

748
00:57:28,840 --> 00:57:33,320
seven album bag Rock to the Masses went platinum, platinum

749
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in Scotland and silver in the rest of the UK.

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Their third album and first live album, blast Live, went

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00:57:42,039 --> 00:57:46,840
triple platinum in Scotland. Their fourth release, Music for the

752
00:57:46,960 --> 00:57:52,880
Kilted Generation, the Red Hot Chili Piper's most successful international

753
00:57:53,000 --> 00:57:56,760
record to date, reached number two on the US Amazon chart,

754
00:57:56,840 --> 00:57:59,559
which I didn't know. Of course it exists, I did,

755
00:58:00,119 --> 00:58:04,519
I didn't know about it anyway. Since then, they have

756
00:58:04,639 --> 00:58:09,519
become a global touring phenomenon, performing everywhere from mainstream Celtic

757
00:58:09,679 --> 00:58:14,920
rock events to major metal festivals like Whacken Open Air

758
00:58:15,239 --> 00:58:18,639
in Germany. That's a thing, right, That's like a big thing,

759
00:58:18,840 --> 00:58:19,079
isn't it.

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00:58:21,960 --> 00:58:22,599
Speaker 9: I've heard of it?

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00:58:23,360 --> 00:58:23,639
Speaker 6: Okay.

762
00:58:24,480 --> 00:58:28,199
Speaker 7: So many of the comments that I read under videos

763
00:58:28,360 --> 00:58:32,360
and different places said that they found this band by

764
00:58:32,519 --> 00:58:36,719
spelling Peppers incorrectly, but that they were so happy that

765
00:58:36,840 --> 00:58:41,800
they had. They originally got their name when a girlfriend

766
00:58:41,880 --> 00:58:46,119
of a founding member mistakenly filed the traditional Bagpipe CD

767
00:58:46,519 --> 00:58:51,079
next to Red Hot Chili Peppers album. So have I

768
00:58:51,800 --> 00:58:53,320
changed your mind, Brian?

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Speaker 3: Nope?

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00:58:56,159 --> 00:58:59,320
Speaker 6: Nope, But it honestly explains a lot that they have

771
00:58:59,440 --> 00:59:04,480
put that much effort into learning how to play that well. Yeah,

772
00:59:04,480 --> 00:59:05,400
And there was a difference.

773
00:59:05,639 --> 00:59:06,079
Speaker 3: There was an.

774
00:59:06,039 --> 00:59:09,920
Speaker 6: Absolute difference night and day compared to my earlier experiences

775
00:59:10,199 --> 00:59:13,679
of the bagpipes. Ye, so yeah, yeah, I still couldn't

776
00:59:13,679 --> 00:59:14,840
sit through a whole concert of that.

777
00:59:15,199 --> 00:59:15,280
Speaker 8: But.

778
00:59:17,280 --> 00:59:19,360
Speaker 7: Yeah, I mean they do a lot of They do

779
00:59:19,519 --> 00:59:21,639
a lot of covers, which I appreciate, Like I could

780
00:59:21,679 --> 00:59:25,079
sit through that song and maybe a handful of other covers,

781
00:59:25,199 --> 00:59:26,719
you know what I mean. If they go off on

782
00:59:26,840 --> 00:59:30,719
their yeah all regular I don't know for a little bit.

783
00:59:30,960 --> 00:59:33,159
Speaker 6: Yeah, well, I mean, if they're playing at that level,

784
00:59:33,239 --> 00:59:36,079
maybe it might be as good as the military tattoo.

785
00:59:36,119 --> 00:59:36,480
Speaker 3: I don't know.

786
00:59:37,119 --> 00:59:40,519
Speaker 6: I don't have that. It's just I don't obviously seek

787
00:59:40,599 --> 00:59:45,000
out those experiences. No, I don't want to be the

788
00:59:45,039 --> 00:59:47,360
guy that's like, nope, I'm done, get up and walk

789
00:59:47,400 --> 00:59:49,119
out in the middle of it. You know, you can't

790
00:59:49,159 --> 00:59:49,400
do that.

791
00:59:50,519 --> 00:59:52,840
Speaker 7: It's funny because I really also wanted to use the

792
00:59:52,960 --> 00:59:57,480
song Roase Tattoo, which there's a couple of different versions of,

793
00:59:57,760 --> 01:00:01,480
not by them, by get who did the original one.

794
01:00:01,559 --> 01:00:04,920
But and that wasn't even real bagpipes.

795
01:00:05,159 --> 01:00:07,360
Speaker 9: So it's crazy, you know.

796
01:00:07,480 --> 01:00:10,079
Speaker 3: I thought I was being you know, novel and being

797
01:00:10,320 --> 01:00:13,960
like clever to you know, like fake bagpipes, you know.

798
01:00:14,199 --> 01:00:17,920
So it turns out there were more fake bagpipe songs.

799
01:00:18,000 --> 01:00:21,960
The bag pipes? Yeah, who knew.

800
01:00:22,800 --> 01:00:25,159
Speaker 7: I'm telling you, I worked really hard to find I

801
01:00:25,360 --> 01:00:27,400
was determined to find real bagpipes.

802
01:00:29,159 --> 01:00:32,679
Speaker 6: All right, So we're done, right, I'm done being tortured.

803
01:00:33,159 --> 01:00:33,519
We're good.

804
01:00:33,599 --> 01:00:37,000
Speaker 7: We made it to the end, Brian, no more bagpipes.

805
01:00:37,039 --> 01:00:38,480
Speaker 6: All right, we are done.

806
01:00:38,760 --> 01:00:41,000
Speaker 3: And are you feeling okay though?

807
01:00:41,079 --> 01:00:42,920
Speaker 6: I am. I made it to the end and I'm

808
01:00:42,960 --> 01:00:45,079
going to pull the plug now before if somebody changes

809
01:00:45,119 --> 01:00:47,960
their mind, okay before the Oh, by the way, you

810
01:00:48,039 --> 01:00:50,880
know we're not having it all right? Well, thank you

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01:00:50,960 --> 01:00:53,000
cram Bones. This was a kind of an easy night

812
01:00:53,079 --> 01:00:55,440
for me because I didn't have to pick one. I

813
01:00:55,559 --> 01:00:58,519
appreciate the hard work. I appreciate being tortured every once

814
01:00:58,519 --> 01:01:01,039
in a while. You gotta to get what you give

815
01:01:01,239 --> 01:01:03,920
kind of thing. So I'm good with that, and thank

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01:01:03,960 --> 01:01:05,320
you all for joining us here for the Rock and

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01:01:05,440 --> 01:01:08,079
Roll History Show. Don't forget to subscribe in your favorite

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We'll see you next week with another brand new episode.

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Until then, have a great weekend and peace out everybody.

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Speaker 8: A rock top.

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Speaker 4: Bottom it rum.

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Speaker 2: Okay, bye bye

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