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Speaker 1: What up everyone, Welcome back to the anime vision You

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got me goes In from anemey Opera and Briggs from

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Briggs eighty a. What up Briggs?

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Speaker 2: What a boys? Good to be back and excited to

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talk about some Pokemon Journeys.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, honestly, I want to, in a way watch all

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of Pokemon. I don't know if it's ever going to happen,

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but I think i'd have a bunch to watch because

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I only watched as a kid, remember when we were

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kids like here and there. But it's been cool to

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actually watch something for the podcast Pokemon related, and I

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gotta say I was I was happy with it. What

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about you?

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Speaker 2: Yeah, there's a lot of episodes, but I do like

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Pokemon Journeys a lot and want to keep on watching

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if you're interested.

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Speaker 1: H No, I definitely am. I just don't know if

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you wanted to like go straight from like twelve to

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twenty four, or did you want to like you know,

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skip to the to the fights or what did you

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want to do?

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Speaker 2: We'll have to figure it out. My general thoughts for

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Pokemon Journeys, I think one, I had a ton of fun.

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I had a ton of fun with it, Like from

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an nostalgia standpoint. As a Pokemon fan, I loved it.

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I feel like whoever created this specific season clearly cares

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about Pokemon and understand what the fans want. I will

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say there are other seasons that I'm just like annoyed

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sometimes watching it because I'm like, there's so much good

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they could have done and they fall short, and I

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feel like this is just like it's for the Pokemon fans,

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and it's probably this is a lot the last season

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with Ash, and I feel like they went into this

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knowing that.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I agree, it felt special. It didn't feel like

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doing putting it out to put it out, which it

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sometimes does with these too big to fail, Like so

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many episodes shows, it sometimes does feel like they're putting

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it out. You know, kids are watching, they'll they'll get

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excited by Pikachu. They don't need to, you know, we

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don't need to do a good story necessarily. But I

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think that this was actually really fast paced, and part

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of what allowed that was I remember back in the

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day when we watched the first season, so he was

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just walking or then eventually biking from place to place,

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right whereas here they just get on a plane and

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they're in a completely different region, so literally there was

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no limit to what they could explore in these first

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twelve episodes. So I think that helped it be like

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super fast paced and able to explore like crazy things.

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I remember the beginning, you know, it's it's introducing us

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to the Pokemon world, to be fair, so you don't

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need a legendary every episode. But it was also crazy

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how many legendaries we got in such a short period

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of time in terms of episodes. Absolutely, yeah, So I.

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Speaker 2: Want to agree and disagree. I want to agree that

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it was fast paced in regards to like they could

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get to different regions very quickly, and the type of

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Pokemon and the cool moments that we saw very fast.

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I do feel at times Pokemon one piece they have

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a way of like keeping the pace slow, so you

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could do a billion episodes, but especially like sometimes like

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the conversations and stuff. Maybe just my patience. I watched

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it at like one point twenty five and one point

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five speed, and honestly, it was amazing, Like I fucking

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loved it. I do think watching it at normal speed

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sometimes was a little bit like I'm like, all right,

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get there, I know where you're going.

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Speaker 1: Get there. I feel like also a kid show.

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Speaker 2: It's also a kid at one point one point five

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helped me a lot.

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Speaker 1: But the slowness of it in that sense like you're

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talking about, I felt was less, you know, slowness and

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more taking a breather to enjoy the Pokemon world and

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the beauty of the Pokemon world. I felt like there

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was a lot of that in this season. Like some

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episodes they had those slower moments, but it didn't feel

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slowly like for example, I mean even we have the

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episodes up to reference and literally the picture they used

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for episode three, which was Ivy Sores Mysterious Tower, it's

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them acting like an Ivy sore and just enjoying the

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breeze on their face and that, you know, if you

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just want action, that's like, well what is this? But

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it really it was enjoyable. It lets you appreciate the

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moment and the beauty of the Pokemon world they created.

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So I actually really like those kinds of moments.

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Speaker 2: I do think they did a fantastic job. I think

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it's just me as an adult, I sometimes I was like,

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for these type of shows, I just need to watch

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a slightly faster paced and especially in the first three

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or four episodes, there were one hundred percent introducing the world,

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giving us a refresher on like who ashes, what Pokemon are? Yeah,

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things that we are, things that we already know. They

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were refreshing us. Yeah, first three to four episodes.

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Speaker 1: Yeah. I feel like they do that because there they

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always assume, Okay, there might be someone who just starts

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with this season. M hm, it was just a new kid.

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Speaker 2: There's a new kid turning six or seven that wants

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to get into Pokemon and it's going to turn on

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their TV and watch the most recent episode or the

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most recent season. And I do understand why.

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Speaker 1: Yeah. It's the same thing with cards, right, Like, for example,

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someone might start collecting Pokemon like a few the last

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few years compared to us who grew up with the

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OG stuff, and for them like Amon Vmax or moon

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Breon card maybe nostalgic in the future, like the charge

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are base that card is for us, right, Yeah, And

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that's that's why I think is actually cool about Pokemon.

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It's like not tied to one single generation. It seems

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to have people coming in and they make it like

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that so you can come in and all of a sudden,

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it's so deep, like the fandom there, there's people in

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this pocket, people in this pocket. It's it's crazy. And

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then obviously there's overlaps sometimes, but yeah, it's it's amazing

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what a franchise can do. And I think Pokemon's the

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biggest one in the world. So yeah, let's keep that

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in mind while while going into this.

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Speaker 2: So I will say, goes, and you're jumping into a

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beautiful season because I know you've only watched an episode here,

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an episode there. Like I've watched hundreds of Pokemon episodes,

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which I know there's a lot of content content after

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that after that, but I've watched a lot of seasons

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and I feel like this season actually cares and they

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are taking their time with it. The first episode is

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literally called Enter Pikachu, and it's like a prequel episode

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and it covers like peachw Pikachu when they were back

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when they were peachew which I've never seen this before,

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this content before, and they're like wholesome life with like

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King of Scan, Yes, Kengis Khan and it was so

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cute Pichu in Kengiskan's little pouch and this like the

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events leading to you with evolution like things like this,

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I like the fact that it could at this point,

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it's such an old show like this came out in

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twenty twenty, so Pokemon has been around for a long time,

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including the anime, and so yet they could give us fresh,

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very important information, and one of that is Pikachu's backstories.

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get filler stuff and stuff that doesn't change fundamentally what

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we know. We also got the whole Pikachu backstory, which

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is very big deal. And I like the fact that

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we got it so far into the show they can

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still give us big deals.

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Speaker 2: Exactly, And I feel like having a wholesome backstory like

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that makes sense as to why Pikachu becomes the amazing

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like Pokemon that they.

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Speaker 1: Are elaborate that. Why do you think, why do you

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think that backstory makes it like that?

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Speaker 2: Well, Pichu is by themselves and kind of going through

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it and then had like a kind of a parental

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Keengis Khan taking care of it and like mothering it

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or fothering it or whatever. And I just feel like,

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I don't know, Pikachu throughout the seasons cares for others,

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tries to protect others, and like has obviously the Peach

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Pikachu's been around for so long, but whatever a new

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Pokemon joins like the cause I feel like Pach Pikachu

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wants to take care of them right. Also, Pikachu do

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isn't like being pokeables. I think there's a backstory to that,

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but always wants to like ride on top of Ash.

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It's actually these contributing factors.

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Speaker 1: I mean there there is that definitely like yeah, like

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like it was in Kangiskan's Poach. Yeah, yeah, likes to

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be on ash. But what I was interested in is

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why do you think it went from that? Pichu leaves

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sad story a bit because it's like the Picchu is

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getting too heavy along with the baby Kannga Scan, so

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it didn't want the King of Scan to suffer even

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though the Kanistan was down to keep carrying them both,

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and so it left and eventually you know, became a

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Pikachu better able to uh fend for itself. But why

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do you think it started off in a foul mood

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as like because it was in the poke ball or

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you know when it started with the Ash Journey, because

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it was pretty happy like Pokemon. Maybe it was sad

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that it had to leave. Maybe it's like being captured.

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Speaker 2: Yes, yeah, I mean at the end of the day,

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he was probably captured against his will, given to a

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random trainer, and the trainer expects like, yeah, we're gonna

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be best friends now without earning its like trust or

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respect in any way.

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Speaker 1: But that's funny because I feel like Pikachu is an

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exception most of the time. Even if it's hard to

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catch a Pokemon, once you catch them, they're like, hey,

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I accept you as my trainer, you know, and we've

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seen that with we can get to it. But Ash's

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friend what's his name again, Go Go yeah Go literally

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catches things so easily. It irritates me. I just remember

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playing the old games and like having to like you know,

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bring the HP down of the Pokemon and like put

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him to sleep or something, and this guy was just

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like damn, caught a pincer, bam, caught everything. So that way.

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Speaker 2: I was really streaming at streaming like attack him once,

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don't just throw a Pokemon at him. He's probably the

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level level five or under like Starter Pokemon within the

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region a lot of the time, but like, still.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, that let's better be that. But I did like

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how he got reality checked when he actually tried to

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do a battle, and he probably thought it would be

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as easy as as catching Pokemon are and then he

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got absolutely destroyed. So because I think it was going

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too easy for him, like you know what I mean.

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guess thinking and catching Pokemon, whereas Ash is obviously the

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one that battles. And I was for a while there,

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I was upset that Ash isn't catching anything. Bro. I

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guess he scratched that itch.

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Speaker 2: I feel like, yeah, he doesn't. He doesn't care to

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catch anything unless it's like a poke when he's really

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interested or has built a bond with first or has

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like some type of I don't know, there's something more

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than just like I want to catch them, catch them all,

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which was kind of his thing. Yeah thing, I guess

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that was just a series.

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Speaker 1: It's good because every Pokemon season is sort of like

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Loofy getting the straw hats with that team of six,

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you know, the Ash has to get so I think

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that every season they want to be very careful with

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what kind of Pokemon that he catches they devote time to,

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because it may end up being like his final team

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of six that he goes on to do the championship

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Speaker 2: Yeah, that's true.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I do think.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, we have one hundred and someone episodes of this,

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of this Pokemon journeys, there's probably no rush in catching

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those pokemon. He could do one every twenty episodes, you know.

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I'm trying to like connect the dots here. I feel

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Speaker 1: They're good at they're good at creating drama because yeah,

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knew this, but me, you can just take the shape

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of any other Pokemon. So it was literally pulling a diddle.

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know what it is. Literally, maybe it's like using Psychic

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to trick everyone into thinking it's looking like a different

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Pokemon because it's the Psychic Pokemon, so it's like an illusion,

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or maybe because they keep saying it has the DNA

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of like every Pokemon, so maybe it can actually just

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transform into them. I have no idea. It's it's definitely

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new for me, but it was interesting and it was

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funny how he kept saying Yo Mew will be the

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first Bookemon I catch, and they really got emotional for

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a kid level show, with score Bunny like wanting to

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be partners later on and then him being like love this, Yeah,

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I can't. You has to be my first kid. So

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obviously it made up for it that he didn't eventually

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pick it, but it was so sad bro like this

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left everything jumped on the train, was following them and

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then just got rejected.

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Speaker 2: So me can literally learn can actually do it? It

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could use transform Okay, it could use the move transform.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, Like did A like it?

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Speaker 2: What was I gonna say?

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Speaker 1: So?

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Speaker 2: I don't know if you realized. No, obviously you realized

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the first couple episodes that what I thought was cool

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was that they were giving us like the backstory of

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Pikachu and Ash and stuff like that containing stuff that's

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already been done and already been shown along like giving

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us a refresher along with new content, which I honestly

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really enjoyed.

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Speaker 1: And they reanimated that they didn't get lazy exactly.

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Speaker 2: So prior to this season once they are, you know,

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going around catching Pokemon doing things. All the other seasons

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prior to this are Cannon. They all happened. Ash has

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ten billion badges, seventy to one hundred plus Pokemon back home,

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those are all Like when I was watching this and

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I was like, oh, he's getting Pikachu, I thought they

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were like redoing it. They were like gonna like refresh

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us on the on the back story, and it was

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gonna be like a brand new like restart journey for

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for some reason. But like all the stuff that happened

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before this all actually happened.

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Speaker 1: Yeah. Yeah. The only confusing thing is the movies, because.

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Speaker 2: The movies aren't Cannon.

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Speaker 1: Yeah. I guess, I guess that makes sense because I'm thinking,

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like they acted like they never met Lugia or obviously

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Lugia was in the second movie. But I guess you

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got to remember that the movies aren't canon. Yeah, and

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Mew like the Mew and the movies and stuff like that. Yeah,

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so I guess it's like one piece in that sense.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I just thought I was a little bit confused.

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I thought they were like redoing it, and it is

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gonna be like Ash is real journey and how he

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becomes the Pokemon Master and they're giving him like a

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final like goodbye type of thing before bringing in a

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new trainer. But then Team Rocket shows up when they're

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like they already know Ash. I'm like interesting. And then

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as things go by, I'm like, yeah, no, they just

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everything happened prior. They just kind of gave us a

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refresher in the beginning. And then somehow he's still thirteen

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years old but has been on like nineteen journeys. But

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Go just started his journey.

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Speaker 1: I know he started at ten. I don't know if

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what his official ages at this at this series, but yeah,

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he started at ten, I know that.

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Speaker 2: So yeah, maybe he had a three year head start

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and then Go just started now.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, And and I like the fact that in this

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one Pikachu is strong, right, Like sometimes I just feel

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like in the past what upset me was, you know,

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how there was Circle Pokemon Diamond Pokemon, Star Pokemon going

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off the cards, or you could say, like you know,

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stronger weaker. Like sometimes you get a new season and

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Pikachu after everything gets been through would lose to like

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a circle Pokemon and it's like.

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Speaker 2: Dude, what are you doing if you lost to a

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level five snivey very it? Actually, this is what I'm saying.

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I do think this season really cares. Other seasons are

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just like, let's just restart. It's like, let's just give

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them a restart, a refreshery. This season definitely cares a lot.

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Speaker 1: I appreciate this season builds on it. And part of

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it is probably I I'm guessing we're not going to

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have gyms, but maybe we will later. But the gym's

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kind of kind of pigeonholes them into like repower scaling,

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because you know, they kind of imitate the games, and

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then in the games, you're obviously going from weaker gyms

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to stronger gyms like every generation, and so that kind

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of you know, messes up with like the Pikachu strength level.

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Speaker 2: Well, okay, I might just do you mind if I

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spoil spoil like the new system for you in this season?

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Speaker 1: Sure?

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Speaker 2: I think I watched one episode at one extra episode. Sure,

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so there might still be gyms, but they're basically there's

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a ranking system, an online ranking system in this thing

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where when you challenge a trainer or maybe a gym

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leader el gym, there's like an ELO and there's like

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four different tiers, and if you make it to the

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highest tier, then you can compete in like the final

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tournament against Like I think you watched episode twelve and

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it had like the World Coronation series.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, so twelve flashes of titans, the guy with the

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dragon trainer Lance versus Leon right Leon, so.

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Speaker 2: Lance and Leon. I believe in the in the in

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the video games were like part of the Elite four

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or gym leaders or something, so clearly, like in the Cannon,

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they're like the best of the best. And I think

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basically if Ash wins enough ELO throughout this season, he

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can the tournament. I don't even challenge him like that tournament,

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Like this was the finals of the tournament, I think,

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but there's probably a whole tournament with tons of leaders

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and or tons of trainers prior to that battle.

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Speaker 1: The only thing that bothered me, though, go ahead, The

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only thing that bothered me is there was one Pokemon

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versus one Pokemon, Like what the fuck?

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Speaker 2: Yeah, they should be like at least.

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Speaker 1: That's a weird. That's a weird. I'm thinking it wasn't

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like the tournament because I think the tournament is always

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multiple pokemon. I think maybe it was a tournament, but

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they did say it's for who's the best, so I

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don't know, but it's weird that it was just like

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charge R versus Red Garrettos.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, maybe for the finals they're like choose one, but

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to that, like the other tournaments, maybe it was like

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mult I would hope it'd be multiple pokemon.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, me too. I like how they you'd think Garrettos

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would end up being like super effective against charge Are,

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but it's cool how they ended up giving charges Are

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thunder Punch, which is very super effective against Garrettos because

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there's a multiplier there because he's flying and water, which

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are both weak against lightnings. So yeah, that was that

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was cool. I like the thought they put into these battles,

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even when like situations like when Pikachu uses electric web

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and bounces off of it as electric Pokemon and uses

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it to power up its irontail or something. It's very cool.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm telling you, man, I think they really did

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this season for the fans, it felt it feels so

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much better than the other the other I don't want

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to say crap seasons, but there were definitely some crap

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seasons that I was just like.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, if that's the case. And for for reference on IMDb,

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they're all like over seven out of ten, right, and

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some approaching eight, which is I would think rare for Pokemon.

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A lout of the episodes we watched, like, so, yeah,

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it's clear that a lot of people think it's a

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solid show, and I agree, Yeah, there was there was

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a lot of a lot of good parts in it.

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You want to talk about the Lugia part.

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Speaker 2: Sure, I'm trying to remember which episode that's.

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Speaker 1: So, that's episode two to Lugia just shows up, takes them,

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takes them on a ride, and they figure out a

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little cool things. And that's part of what I like

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about Pokemon, even like reading the cards is learning a

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bit about the Pokemon and something about it. Just like

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you're a biologist and you're like researching animals. Here they

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research for the lab, and so you find out cool

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Pokemon statistics or facts, and here is something like Lugias

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thing about Lugia's coat or something that that it wasn't

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as they thought it would be, and something like I

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can't remember the specific details, but I just remember it's

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cool getting to know these details about fan favorite Pokemon.

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Speaker 2: Mm hmm. Honestly, I just really enjoyed, like the scenery

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of them on top of Luga going through the world,

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Lukia's attacks, them going underwater, Lucia caring about the safety

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of ashing and go, and like the wholesomeness of that.

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Speaker 1: I really liked, And I like how it wasn't It

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didn't have to be, uh, we're going to catch you

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like or beat you like obviously Ash wanted to, but

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eventually they just became friends and they they appreciated a

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moment with the Pokemon without needing to beat it or

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catch it. And although obviously as a trainer you want

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to catch that, Lugia like, oh yeah, I think we

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can relate to it if we played the game.

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Speaker 2: I rely watched the stress. I'm like that was that

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was the wholesome I love it, but.

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Speaker 1: Now exactly, but I I do like, uh, how there's

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something for and I think the new generation from what

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I heard without Ash focuses more on different ways to

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kind of move into Pokemon world and different goals, not

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just being the strongest. But it's cool that we see

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so many different ways to enjoy the Pokemon world, and

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even like games like Pokemon Snap encourage you to do

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that where you're not catching it, you're just trying to

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see Pokemon their habitat and grab cool pictures of them.

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So again makes the Pokemon world deeper and something I

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appreciate about this season.

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Speaker 2: Like you mentioned, the bubble Sore moment with kind of

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was very wholesome. I like the kind of I didn't

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love Go as a character at first, but he was

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definitely right in certain regards where it's like, let's let

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the Pokemon figure it out, because if we just do

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stuff for them, then they're not going to know how

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to do it themselves. So let's not baby them. Like

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we're here to help each other and assist each other,

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but sometimes he's got to like let each other learn,

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you know, learn from their mistakes.

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Speaker 1: I like, yeah, I like how you're.

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Speaker 2: In their lives. You don't want to you don't want

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to interfere in their lives so much that you affect it.

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Speaker 1: Right, Yeah, I like how flawed Ash is, like obviously

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flawed as a character, but but that makes interesting interactions, right, like, but.

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Speaker 2: Such a good such a good person, like he just

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wants to help yeah, exactly, Yeah, starts hitting his head

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against the wall. He just wants to help little buddy.

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Speaker 1: Out exactly, And and he rushes in. He he says

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stuff he probably doesn't mean, like, you know, I don't

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need your friendship stuff like that. But it's just this

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kid energy which is like super strong, and and then

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sometimes he'll rush in and mess up. But it makes

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for entertaining character for sure.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, and you now remember these you guys are like ten.

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I went saying different ages. I don't know, they're like

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they're like eleven and a half.

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Speaker 1: They're definitely at least ten now, now Ash could be more,

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but they probably didn't age age him, knowing how cartoons work. Yeah, yeah,

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he just gains experience and doesn't gain age.

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Speaker 2: Dermatologists hate him. He still looks thirteen at Yeah. Yeah,

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how did you like scorebun Wait wait wait before score

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Bunny Team Rocket gets introduced this episode? Yeah, and I

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was little like they have that little device. Oh also

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the Pokemon choices. I'm all over the place. I'm all

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over the place the Pokemon choices for like Lance and

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Leon and even for Team Rocket. I fucking love it.

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They're just bringing back like strong ogs that everyone loves.

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Speaker 3: They're like charges are Garrettos, yeah, or its like the

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bell Sprout, like it's either cool epic like the Tyrannu

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Tar and the Garrettos, or it's like funny, or it's

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like bell Sprout and Belsro is not gonna do anything

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against that giant turtle Pokemon.

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Speaker 1: I don't even know its name exactly.

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Speaker 2: And they even way Lord, I don't know if we've

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got you got there. I kind of I was loving it.

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I was loving it so much that I kept on

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watching more episodes and I just like I could tell

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00:25:04,039 --> 00:25:07,000
whoever made this cares because they're like, let's let's do

473
00:25:07,079 --> 00:25:10,240
some stuff for the ogs and then showing Tyrannatar and

474
00:25:10,839 --> 00:25:13,440
of course like the fight the finals of the of

475
00:25:13,480 --> 00:25:16,279
the Coronation, They're like, let's do Charzard and Garrettos pokemon

476
00:25:16,319 --> 00:25:17,279
everyone loves.

477
00:25:17,119 --> 00:25:19,880
Speaker 1: And not just that Red Garrettos, which you know, well,

478
00:25:19,920 --> 00:25:22,599
if you played the second Gene, that's one of the

479
00:25:23,240 --> 00:25:25,440
Pokemon you catch, the Red Garretos.

480
00:25:25,519 --> 00:25:28,680
Speaker 2: And I bet you. As the season kind of goes on,

481
00:25:29,440 --> 00:25:31,480
part of the reason why they probably ended one pokemon

482
00:25:31,759 --> 00:25:35,119
is they don't want to spoil the other pokemon. These

483
00:25:35,160 --> 00:25:38,160
these epic gym leaders have or trainers have, true and

484
00:25:38,200 --> 00:25:41,039
I think they're gonna be from other regions, like OG's

485
00:25:41,400 --> 00:25:45,640
amazing Pokemons from other regions. So like throughout Ashes travels,

486
00:25:45,839 --> 00:25:47,680
there was always like a couple of cool Pokemon that

487
00:25:47,720 --> 00:25:50,519
everyone loved, and I have a feeling that Leon's gonna

488
00:25:50,519 --> 00:25:52,519
be like I got chars Are. But also in the

489
00:25:52,519 --> 00:25:56,000
second reason, I got like Blazerkin, like I don't I

490
00:25:56,039 --> 00:25:57,319
don't know, probably not.

491
00:25:59,200 --> 00:26:02,480
Speaker 1: Fire, but yeah, yeah, no, I sure, I know, one

492
00:26:02,519 --> 00:26:06,680
hundred percent. Yeah. So what do we want to talk

493
00:26:06,720 --> 00:26:07,680
about next? Score Bunny?

494
00:26:08,839 --> 00:26:11,720
Speaker 2: Yeah, so did you did you enjoy the Team Rocket

495
00:26:11,759 --> 00:26:12,680
coming back in the bedroom?

496
00:26:12,720 --> 00:26:14,960
Speaker 1: Yeah? One hundred percent. You know, you know, Team Rocket

497
00:26:14,960 --> 00:26:17,160
is epic and I was glad to see them because

498
00:26:17,640 --> 00:26:20,279
I don't know for sure in the anime, because again

499
00:26:20,319 --> 00:26:23,799
I pretty much watched some of Jen one, some of

500
00:26:23,880 --> 00:26:27,480
Gen two, and as a kid, we didn't have streaming services,

501
00:26:27,720 --> 00:26:29,759
so it was just like what's on TV at the time,

502
00:26:31,000 --> 00:26:33,359
and you're not watching in order really you're just catching

503
00:26:33,359 --> 00:26:36,720
what you can at the time, and so, you know,

504
00:26:36,759 --> 00:26:39,599
I didn't know much, but I know in the games,

505
00:26:39,759 --> 00:26:42,480
it stops being Team Rocket, it starts being Team Magma

506
00:26:42,759 --> 00:26:46,960
or Team Sapphire or you know, like there's different kinds

507
00:26:46,960 --> 00:26:49,200
of enemies. And I don't know if the anime kept

508
00:26:49,559 --> 00:26:52,319
Jesse and James throughout, so there.

509
00:26:52,279 --> 00:26:55,119
Speaker 2: Was always Jesse and James, but there were there were

510
00:26:55,319 --> 00:26:58,799
other evil organizations through other seasons, and then Jesse and

511
00:26:58,880 --> 00:27:00,480
James would just like pop in there and be like

512
00:27:01,200 --> 00:27:01,880
Team Rocket.

513
00:27:02,359 --> 00:27:06,400
Speaker 1: Okay cool. But yeah, so for me, as someone who

514
00:27:06,440 --> 00:27:10,039
didn't know if they would return, I was really glad

515
00:27:10,039 --> 00:27:14,799
to see them return for this season. Obviously, Jesse and James.

516
00:27:14,799 --> 00:27:19,559
You know Iconic Mouth, they keep doing the Team Rocket

517
00:27:19,720 --> 00:27:23,319
esque and not Team Rocket esque Power Rangers esque intros,

518
00:27:23,960 --> 00:27:28,200
which are always enjoyable. Yeah, yeah, they say the same

519
00:27:28,240 --> 00:27:31,000
thing every time, but I love it. Yeah one d

520
00:27:31,119 --> 00:27:34,039
perc No, I was hyped and if I don't know

521
00:27:34,039 --> 00:27:36,119
if you know, Briggs, but they're coming out with a

522
00:27:36,160 --> 00:27:40,359
Team Rocket set Pokemon card wise, and people are so

523
00:27:40,519 --> 00:27:44,960
hyped about it because yeah, that Team Rocket carries so

524
00:27:45,160 --> 00:27:48,359
much weight because people love it so much, like even

525
00:27:48,759 --> 00:27:52,480
Ogs would remember like Dark Pokemon, which are pretty much

526
00:27:52,759 --> 00:27:55,119
Team Rocket Pokemon. It was one of the most popular

527
00:27:55,440 --> 00:27:59,960
sets back in the day. So yeah, definitely I felt

528
00:28:00,119 --> 00:28:01,920
the Team Rocket hype.

529
00:28:02,160 --> 00:28:04,440
Speaker 2: Hell yeah, all right.

530
00:28:04,599 --> 00:28:06,279
Speaker 1: Also, I want to just say, I just want to

531
00:28:06,279 --> 00:28:08,839
say we'll get to this probably, but the Whale Lord

532
00:28:09,000 --> 00:28:14,160
using splash, again, that's something that real fans would appreciate

533
00:28:14,359 --> 00:28:19,920
because splash is like the stupidest, weakest move, and you'd

534
00:28:19,960 --> 00:28:21,960
associated with back in the day with just using it

535
00:28:22,000 --> 00:28:24,279
with a magic carp and here they gave it to

536
00:28:24,359 --> 00:28:27,079
Whale Lord, which is just the size is huge, and

537
00:28:27,119 --> 00:28:31,079
thus inevitably a weak move like splash ends up being

538
00:28:31,319 --> 00:28:32,519
like a title wave.

539
00:28:32,680 --> 00:28:35,160
Speaker 2: Or I loved it. I thought it was so good.

540
00:28:35,240 --> 00:28:38,559
It's like, yeah, like a gigantic Pokemon like that, using

541
00:28:38,559 --> 00:28:42,039
splash is gonna be like a tsunami exactly.

542
00:28:42,079 --> 00:28:44,079
Speaker 1: I like the little details like that.

543
00:28:46,000 --> 00:28:49,240
Speaker 2: Oh my god, I love it. Score Bunny, I really

544
00:28:49,279 --> 00:28:50,799
like the personality of score Bunny.

545
00:28:51,279 --> 00:28:54,000
Speaker 1: Yeah, And that's something you can say every Pokemon seems

546
00:28:54,039 --> 00:28:57,519
to have personality here and in character seems to have

547
00:28:57,599 --> 00:29:01,400
their own personality, and Score Bunny is definitely like playful

548
00:29:02,039 --> 00:29:06,079
kicks like ready to hit ash, and I think we've

549
00:29:06,079 --> 00:29:08,839
seen that with like the Pokemon and Team Rock in

550
00:29:08,880 --> 00:29:14,720
the past, like was like weeping Bell or something like

551
00:29:15,920 --> 00:29:19,640
eating James's face or something like that. So it's interesting

552
00:29:19,680 --> 00:29:24,519
seeing like these animals interacting and their personality.

553
00:29:24,599 --> 00:29:27,039
Speaker 2: Yeah, and we got some wholesome moments between Score Bunny

554
00:29:27,039 --> 00:29:29,559
and Go, even though like you said, it was kind

555
00:29:29,559 --> 00:29:31,920
of like sad at first, when it's like clearly score

556
00:29:31,920 --> 00:29:34,319
Bunny wanted to be Go with Pokemon and he's just

557
00:29:34,359 --> 00:29:37,960
like no I would have mewt. So then as their

558
00:29:38,000 --> 00:29:41,200
bond grew and as they work together, especially fighting the

559
00:29:41,599 --> 00:29:44,519
Dynamax Noorlax, which we'll talk about in a second, he

560
00:29:44,599 --> 00:29:47,640
eventually catches score Bunny as his first Pokemon and I

561
00:29:47,640 --> 00:29:48,000
loved it.

562
00:29:48,759 --> 00:29:51,680
Speaker 1: Yeah, and the interacting of different Pokemon in the Pokemon

563
00:29:51,759 --> 00:29:55,440
world is interesting. We talked about Peak peachw and Kenga

564
00:29:55,480 --> 00:30:01,759
Scan and here, uh, Score Bunny. He is taking care

565
00:30:01,799 --> 00:30:04,559
of three of those fox Pokemon I think they're called

566
00:30:04,680 --> 00:30:08,079
Nickets or something like that, and so he's kind of

567
00:30:08,160 --> 00:30:11,119
their leader and the poked X doesn't recognize him because

568
00:30:11,119 --> 00:30:15,359
he's covered in mud, and so yeah, it's interesting how

569
00:30:15,759 --> 00:30:18,599
you know they were having trouble, but then he helped them,

570
00:30:18,880 --> 00:30:23,319
and then eventually they learned his tricks and showed him

571
00:30:23,440 --> 00:30:26,039
so that he could leave and go with Go because

572
00:30:26,480 --> 00:30:29,720
he really liked Go after Go complimented him. And then

573
00:30:29,759 --> 00:30:32,759
we have this whole series of funny events where he's

574
00:30:32,960 --> 00:30:37,480
trying to get their attention and like laid back. You know,

575
00:30:37,599 --> 00:30:39,480
I'm cool, no big deal, I'm not trying to get

576
00:30:39,519 --> 00:30:43,519
your attention kind of way. But it keeps failing until

577
00:30:43,519 --> 00:30:44,640
they get to the Snorres.

578
00:30:44,759 --> 00:30:48,480
Speaker 2: Right. How did you feel about the Dynamas.

579
00:30:49,799 --> 00:30:57,039
Speaker 1: Yeah, so again, my personal experience colors the experience of

580
00:30:57,039 --> 00:30:59,839
me watching the show. I got into back into Pokemon,

581
00:31:00,039 --> 00:31:03,039
I thing with sword and Shield, and so I really

582
00:31:03,160 --> 00:31:06,440
like seeing the Dynamax now in the show after I've

583
00:31:06,519 --> 00:31:10,400
seen it so many vmaxes in the cards, and so yeah,

584
00:31:10,440 --> 00:31:13,039
I really enjoy it. I even knew that the Dynamax

585
00:31:13,480 --> 00:31:17,799
Snorlax would end up having a many island on itself

586
00:31:18,079 --> 00:31:18,519
pretty much.

587
00:31:18,559 --> 00:31:20,519
Speaker 2: So that's like that's Cannon in the cards and in

588
00:31:20,559 --> 00:31:22,119
the game as well. It's the same. I thought, maybe

589
00:31:22,119 --> 00:31:24,759
like the DYNAMAXI might be different depending on the Pokemon,

590
00:31:24,799 --> 00:31:28,519
like this one, this one Dynamax with a fucking waiting

591
00:31:28,559 --> 00:31:31,359
under a tree trying to get that honeycomb or whatever

592
00:31:31,559 --> 00:31:31,880
they had.

593
00:31:31,880 --> 00:31:35,480
Speaker 1: The Snorlax Dynamax may even be the chase card of

594
00:31:35,519 --> 00:31:39,039
the first Sword and Shield set. It's not super expensive,

595
00:31:39,039 --> 00:31:41,799
but I think it's the most expensive of those cards.

596
00:31:42,200 --> 00:31:44,599
Speaker 2: I mean, it's a really cool Dynamax. It's so different.

597
00:31:45,039 --> 00:31:48,599
Speaker 1: Yeah, the only problem is like they hadn't introduced like alltarts,

598
00:31:48,960 --> 00:31:51,119
which is pretty much like we see in the shows

599
00:31:51,480 --> 00:31:55,640
Pokemon in real world full art situations. So it was

600
00:31:56,160 --> 00:31:59,200
before a certain set, it was just like Snorlax and

601
00:31:59,279 --> 00:32:05,119
a bunch of colorful lines and effects behind him, which

602
00:32:05,200 --> 00:32:08,880
isn't that interesting, right, Like you'd rather see dragon nightes

603
00:32:08,960 --> 00:32:15,359
sleeping in the sky with Pharaohs passing underneath than generic background.

604
00:32:16,160 --> 00:32:18,839
Speaker 2: Honestly, dude, Pokemon's so cool.

605
00:32:18,960 --> 00:32:22,279
Speaker 1: I know. And that's what I'm like. Again, we're sticking

606
00:32:22,279 --> 00:32:25,319
the poke about topic, but just very quickly, I'm I'm

607
00:32:25,359 --> 00:32:27,480
looking at you, Gio, And again, a lot of their

608
00:32:27,519 --> 00:32:31,759
backgrounds are just for the cars, generic, whereas the fact

609
00:32:31,759 --> 00:32:34,839
that Pokemon can put them in real life situations like

610
00:32:34,920 --> 00:32:38,200
real animals gives them such a leg up in my

611
00:32:38,279 --> 00:32:41,279
opinion for how cool the cards can get. How cool

612
00:32:41,319 --> 00:32:45,000
the yeah, how cool the the art can get on

613
00:32:45,039 --> 00:32:47,839
the cards. So yeah, like you don't you don't picture

614
00:32:48,960 --> 00:32:51,839
dark Magician girl having coffee with you Gi, for example,

615
00:32:52,720 --> 00:32:55,720
because they're kind of associated with just coming out for

616
00:32:55,880 --> 00:32:58,079
the card game and not with the real world.

617
00:32:58,759 --> 00:33:00,880
Speaker 2: Yeah, they have their strength consist I feel like the

618
00:33:01,000 --> 00:33:04,799
concept of Pokemon is so much better. It's something that has.

619
00:33:04,720 --> 00:33:07,519
Speaker 1: So much deep you could mind it so much more.

620
00:33:07,839 --> 00:33:11,680
Speaker 2: Yeah, but the game is better. The anime is just better.

621
00:33:14,319 --> 00:33:18,119
Oh man, the actually just so much. It just better

622
00:33:18,160 --> 00:33:20,559
about Yuyi. Oh, but then the concept of Pokemon is

623
00:33:20,599 --> 00:33:21,279
just unmatched.

624
00:33:22,920 --> 00:33:26,359
Speaker 1: Yeah, like again, and that's debatable, right, not everybody would agree,

625
00:33:26,400 --> 00:33:29,640
and it's like what season of Pokemon versus what season

626
00:33:29,680 --> 00:33:32,680
of you Gio? But to be fair, I haven't watched

627
00:33:33,240 --> 00:33:35,839
I haven't watched the ones we were gonna watch with

628
00:33:35,839 --> 00:33:38,680
with Knuts at some point, you know, the five d's

629
00:33:38,799 --> 00:33:42,640
or whatever. Yeah, you guys said it was good, Like,

630
00:33:42,720 --> 00:33:44,599
I don't know, I just see those designs for some

631
00:33:44,640 --> 00:33:47,400
of those newer ones I liked kind of g X

632
00:33:47,599 --> 00:33:49,440
like that. I was still kind of into it at

633
00:33:49,440 --> 00:33:51,759
that point, but then some of the designs and the

634
00:33:51,799 --> 00:33:54,119
crazy hairstyles for some of the new ones. It just

635
00:33:54,759 --> 00:33:57,640
it didn't get me to keep watching or want to watch,

636
00:33:57,720 --> 00:33:59,160
you know, I.

637
00:33:59,200 --> 00:34:03,160
Speaker 2: Think that's fair. I just I don't know. I don't

638
00:34:03,160 --> 00:34:04,960
even know how to properly explain it, because obviously the

639
00:34:05,000 --> 00:34:07,319
first scene of Yeoh is rough around the edges as well.

640
00:34:07,480 --> 00:34:08,920
It just feels like it's.

641
00:34:08,719 --> 00:34:10,599
Speaker 1: Just a nostylship for me. Yeah.

642
00:34:10,679 --> 00:34:17,000
Speaker 2: Yeah. For a long time the Pokemon anime, while fun

643
00:34:17,039 --> 00:34:19,519
and the concept is so fun, it just felt like

644
00:34:19,519 --> 00:34:21,519
they were sometimes just shitting it out just to like

645
00:34:21,599 --> 00:34:23,760
get something out there, like we're just never gonna stop

646
00:34:23,800 --> 00:34:27,519
releasing Pokemon seasons. Well, a lot of Ugo seasons were

647
00:34:27,559 --> 00:34:31,360
just like, in my opinion, super hype. And the card

648
00:34:31,360 --> 00:34:35,079
game is just like a better game. The concept that

649
00:34:35,119 --> 00:34:38,000
Pokemon can't be touched, it's like it's been around forever

650
00:34:38,039 --> 00:34:40,199
for a reason and everyone knows it for a reason.

651
00:34:40,280 --> 00:34:40,719
Speaker 1: And I did.

652
00:34:40,760 --> 00:34:42,840
Speaker 2: I love the concept when I was eight, and I

653
00:34:42,880 --> 00:34:44,840
love the concept now that I'm twenty eight. Like it's

654
00:34:44,840 --> 00:34:45,719
just crazy to say.

655
00:34:45,880 --> 00:34:49,599
Speaker 1: Yeah, agreed. And I think that uh Yu Gio is

656
00:34:49,599 --> 00:34:52,400
more mature though, so I think that's something you got

657
00:34:52,400 --> 00:34:55,599
to consider. They're going for a more mature audience. You have,

658
00:34:55,679 --> 00:34:58,519
like the Shadow Realm and stuff like that, Like it

659
00:34:58,559 --> 00:35:01,519
gets pretty pretty dark in a way that Pokemon won't.

660
00:35:01,559 --> 00:35:04,679
So they're kind of hard to compare because they're different demographics.

661
00:35:04,920 --> 00:35:07,639
Speaker 2: Well, for sure, it's definitely a younger demographic for Pokemon.

662
00:35:07,679 --> 00:35:10,400
They tried to like kit it down for you. You We're like,

663
00:35:10,480 --> 00:35:12,519
we're going to send them to the Shadow Realm, when

664
00:35:12,559 --> 00:35:14,199
like in the manga, it's actually like you die if

665
00:35:14,239 --> 00:35:18,800
you lose the duel, Yeah, which is crazy for game.

666
00:35:18,880 --> 00:35:20,679
Speaker 1: No, it's funny. I watched some of that stuff and

667
00:35:20,760 --> 00:35:23,519
it's just like there was actual saws that will cut

668
00:35:23,519 --> 00:35:26,440
off your legs if you lose a certain amount of

669
00:35:26,480 --> 00:35:31,280
life points. And and in the Four Kids Four Kids dubbed,

670
00:35:31,280 --> 00:35:33,159
they kind of had like I don't know, like it

671
00:35:33,199 --> 00:35:36,119
was like light light discs, which I don't know, Like

672
00:35:36,159 --> 00:35:38,199
they said like you'd sent it a shadow realm if

673
00:35:38,280 --> 00:35:40,320
like they touched you or something.

674
00:35:40,840 --> 00:35:42,679
Speaker 2: I've pulled up with a gun. And then the Four

675
00:35:42,800 --> 00:35:47,519
Kids that he just pointed his finger. I need a

676
00:35:47,599 --> 00:35:49,039
water so badly one second.

677
00:35:48,880 --> 00:35:55,039
Speaker 1: So I go for it. Oh man, Yeah, I really

678
00:35:55,079 --> 00:35:57,400
enjoyed even the hole, which we'll get to when Briggs

679
00:35:57,400 --> 00:36:01,920
comes back. But let me refresh myself on some of

680
00:36:01,960 --> 00:36:05,760
these episodes. We had the Flute Cup, which was cool.

681
00:36:06,199 --> 00:36:09,159
That's actually the highest rated one here on IMDb at

682
00:36:09,199 --> 00:36:13,000
seven point nine, almost at eight. And I think what

683
00:36:13,079 --> 00:36:15,920
people loved about it is not only like I mentioned,

684
00:36:16,280 --> 00:36:21,480
Go had to go back to not being good at everything,

685
00:36:22,079 --> 00:36:24,000
but Ash got a chance to shine and talk about

686
00:36:24,000 --> 00:36:25,119
the Flute Cup of breaks.

687
00:36:26,159 --> 00:36:27,360
Speaker 2: Oh I love the Flute Cup.

688
00:36:27,400 --> 00:36:29,880
Speaker 1: Manah oh, that's the best rated episode of the ones

689
00:36:29,880 --> 00:36:32,920
we watched so far. And yeah, I think part of

690
00:36:32,960 --> 00:36:36,079
it is we got to see Ash shine at what

691
00:36:36,119 --> 00:36:39,239
he's good at m M. And I, like I said,

692
00:36:39,280 --> 00:36:42,599
I appreciate that reality reality check for Go because he

693
00:36:42,719 --> 00:36:46,079
was just breezing through his everything he did and it

694
00:36:46,119 --> 00:36:48,880
was nice to see, Okay, yeah, you know, you can't

695
00:36:48,920 --> 00:36:51,880
just be amazing at everything as soon as you try.

696
00:36:51,960 --> 00:36:54,440
Ash has so much experience and it really showed.

697
00:36:55,400 --> 00:36:58,159
Speaker 2: And the fact that they let Ash have that experience

698
00:36:58,440 --> 00:37:01,920
and win the Flute Cup and actually like show off

699
00:37:01,920 --> 00:37:04,039
his skills, and the fact that he's been a trainer

700
00:37:04,079 --> 00:37:06,639
for a decent amount of time or at least a

701
00:37:06,639 --> 00:37:08,440
decent amount of battle. I don't know how time works

702
00:37:08,480 --> 00:37:11,880
in this series, but like I really appreciate that because,

703
00:37:11,920 --> 00:37:13,880
like we said, in other seasons, it feels like he's

704
00:37:13,880 --> 00:37:16,920
like restarting every season, and this one they clearly have

705
00:37:17,039 --> 00:37:21,480
everything prior being canon, including his skills and Pikachu's skills,

706
00:37:21,920 --> 00:37:24,639
and some of the fights themselves. It felt like that

707
00:37:24,679 --> 00:37:27,719
you were watching like a Pokemon battle from like the game.

708
00:37:28,159 --> 00:37:30,519
But then they would like do these dynamic moves every

709
00:37:30,519 --> 00:37:32,679
now and then with like you said, Pikachu using the

710
00:37:32,719 --> 00:37:35,039
electric web, Yeah, speed up its movement off of like

711
00:37:35,079 --> 00:37:38,119
the ceiling coming down with a spinning iron tail, like

712
00:37:38,159 --> 00:37:39,639
it was so good.

713
00:37:39,840 --> 00:37:41,920
Speaker 1: Yeah, you need that to make the children's show is

714
00:37:41,960 --> 00:37:44,480
so good. Yeah, you need that to make the show

715
00:37:44,519 --> 00:37:48,519
interesting because obviously, like the games are great for what

716
00:37:48,599 --> 00:37:51,960
they are, and it's different experience playing it, but you

717
00:37:52,000 --> 00:37:56,199
can't just have like, okay, your turn, flamethrower, your turn. Well,

718
00:37:56,239 --> 00:37:58,440
it needs to be more dynamic. It's an actual fight.

719
00:37:58,519 --> 00:38:02,400
So I like that the anime did at Justice.

720
00:38:02,679 --> 00:38:05,599
Speaker 2: Now we get to see mister mime pop off.

721
00:38:06,360 --> 00:38:07,480
Speaker 1: Was that his mom's mind?

722
00:38:08,440 --> 00:38:08,800
Speaker 2: I think so?

723
00:38:08,880 --> 00:38:10,639
Speaker 1: Yes, yeah, I assume so he's the main mind that

724
00:38:10,679 --> 00:38:14,840
we associate with stuff, and he was, Uh, his weird

725
00:38:14,920 --> 00:38:17,960
looks are so weird though, like facial expressions.

726
00:38:18,000 --> 00:38:20,239
Speaker 2: I was laughing so hard. I thought it was so funny,

727
00:38:20,360 --> 00:38:21,800
but he was popping the hell off.

728
00:38:21,960 --> 00:38:24,400
Speaker 1: Oh he was amazing. And part of that I think

729
00:38:24,559 --> 00:38:28,119
is Ash being a great trainer and giving him good advice.

730
00:38:28,239 --> 00:38:32,079
But otherwise he's he's still skilled. He's still skilled Pokemon.

731
00:38:32,280 --> 00:38:34,840
Speaker 2: I feel like he's like the family Pokemon. Mister Mime.

732
00:38:35,159 --> 00:38:38,320
Speaker 1: Man, if they had a book where it's like a

733
00:38:38,440 --> 00:38:43,800
companion book to this season and it says what level

734
00:38:43,960 --> 00:38:47,360
the Pokemon are during what fights, I would be all

735
00:38:47,400 --> 00:38:50,239
over that. I'm so curious, like what level mister Mime

736
00:38:50,360 --> 00:38:52,159
is right now? What level Pikachu is?

737
00:38:52,199 --> 00:38:52,239
Speaker 2: That?

738
00:38:53,360 --> 00:38:57,280
Speaker 1: Yeah, interesting stuff, Okay.

739
00:38:57,320 --> 00:38:59,679
Speaker 2: And then after the Flute Cup, which I I do

740
00:38:59,800 --> 00:39:01,880
like the fact that it's like Go had a little

741
00:39:01,880 --> 00:39:03,480
bit of a reality check and he thought it was

742
00:39:03,519 --> 00:39:06,519
just about like a strong Pokemon will win, so catching

743
00:39:06,559 --> 00:39:09,039
strong Pokemon is what you got to do. Meanwhile, it's

744
00:39:09,039 --> 00:39:13,679
like Pikachu and mister Mime probably aren't the most intimidating

745
00:39:13,880 --> 00:39:16,519
when other people are pulling out like I don't remember

746
00:39:16,519 --> 00:39:17,760
what they pulled out, but like let's say like a

747
00:39:17,760 --> 00:39:18,960
Garret Oaks or something.

748
00:39:19,159 --> 00:39:24,079
Speaker 1: Like, Yeah, Ida Mightyana was was one of them, Mariana,

749
00:39:24,360 --> 00:39:27,559
which is I don't think considered like a great Pokemon,

750
00:39:27,559 --> 00:39:29,599
but it's definitely a sort of an intimidating Pokemon. It

751
00:39:29,599 --> 00:39:33,360
has like the intimate intimidated power where it's like weakens

752
00:39:33,559 --> 00:39:35,760
the opponent's attack level, like.

753
00:39:35,719 --> 00:39:38,840
Speaker 2: From Gohld's perspective, like, how is Myightiana gonna lose to

754
00:39:39,000 --> 00:39:43,159
mister mime But mister Mime with both like his experience.

755
00:39:42,800 --> 00:39:46,360
Speaker 1: Ye strategy. Yeah. The only thing I will say is

756
00:39:46,440 --> 00:39:50,199
Mightyana did not fight mister Mime. I think because mister

757
00:39:50,239 --> 00:39:51,639
mind was like I'm out for this one.

758
00:39:52,320 --> 00:39:56,519
Speaker 2: No, mister mime us reflection against like the big sumo guy.

759
00:39:56,639 --> 00:39:59,360
Speaker 1: Yeah, so that's that's not my Deana. That's uh, what's

760
00:39:59,400 --> 00:39:59,960
what's his name?

761
00:40:01,440 --> 00:40:03,159
Speaker 2: Oh, Marianna is like the hyena Pokemon.

762
00:40:03,239 --> 00:40:06,639
Speaker 1: Yeah, exactly the other guy. Man, I totally know it

763
00:40:06,639 --> 00:40:08,920
if I heard it, but now I'm for now I'm forgetting.

764
00:40:08,960 --> 00:40:10,760
But yeah, I know what you mean. The fighting Pokemon

765
00:40:10,800 --> 00:40:14,719
yet chat come in here, the big or something.

766
00:40:14,840 --> 00:40:19,119
Speaker 2: Yeah yeah even that, And and that guy's even more intimidating.

767
00:40:19,239 --> 00:40:21,039
He's a gigantic sumo dude.

768
00:40:22,159 --> 00:40:25,199
Speaker 1: It's funny that they made even the opponent like kind

769
00:40:25,239 --> 00:40:27,800
of easy to laugh at because he's like trying to

770
00:40:27,840 --> 00:40:30,519
throw out that water, but he's like doing it from

771
00:40:30,519 --> 00:40:32,880
his Pokemon and he leans, already leads, already falls in

772
00:40:33,239 --> 00:40:37,000
or he falls. Yeah, they didn't have to make him

773
00:40:37,480 --> 00:40:41,039
uh cool or untouchable to make him a strong trainer,

774
00:40:41,119 --> 00:40:43,440
which was which was a nice touch, funny.

775
00:40:43,159 --> 00:40:44,719
Speaker 2: Touch exactly exactly.

776
00:40:44,960 --> 00:40:48,400
Speaker 1: But yeah, that mastermind might have been in trouble because

777
00:40:48,440 --> 00:40:51,280
my Deanna used crunch, which is a dark move which

778
00:40:51,320 --> 00:40:55,519
is super effective against psychic. So honestly, it's probably good

779
00:40:55,760 --> 00:40:59,480
that he decided not to fight. It made Ash look

780
00:40:59,559 --> 00:41:03,360
better because if if they did fight, my Deianna had

781
00:41:03,360 --> 00:41:06,079
a way better chance of winning then than if when

782
00:41:06,079 --> 00:41:07,800
it fought Pikachu for example. M m.

783
00:41:07,960 --> 00:41:09,639
Speaker 2: And we get to see Pikachu in action.

784
00:41:09,599 --> 00:41:12,199
Speaker 1: Right of course we need that, Yeah, we needed.

785
00:41:11,920 --> 00:41:15,840
Speaker 2: That because that's after the actual Pokemon Yeah, okay, so

786
00:41:15,920 --> 00:41:18,639
after the Flu Cup we have the Sinno Iceberg Race.

787
00:41:20,039 --> 00:41:25,199
Speaker 1: Hmmmm. Another interesting aspect to the Pokemon world where it's like, okay,

788
00:41:25,280 --> 00:41:29,079
now we're not we're not focusing on strength, We're focusing

789
00:41:29,159 --> 00:41:32,559
on speed, and a pip Up can be faster than

790
00:41:33,400 --> 00:41:37,320
its final evolution and Pelia and Polion or something like that.

791
00:41:38,199 --> 00:41:42,599
So yeah, that was that was interesting. Not my favorite episode,

792
00:41:42,639 --> 00:41:44,840
but it had some funny moments, especially at the end,

793
00:41:44,920 --> 00:41:49,039
like the gag of uh. First, pip Up gets jealous

794
00:41:49,159 --> 00:41:53,480
of the toad Pokemon, the toad fighting pokemon Gunk crow Gunk,

795
00:41:53,960 --> 00:41:56,360
and then all of a sudden at the end, like

796
00:41:56,679 --> 00:41:59,800
a side uk appears. It's like, wow, you're super helpful

797
00:41:59,840 --> 00:42:03,320
and fast, thank you, and then the other two are like, ah, heartbroken,

798
00:42:03,760 --> 00:42:04,920
we finally came this.

799
00:42:05,440 --> 00:42:07,840
Speaker 2: Yeah, it was actually really comedic. It was really funny,

800
00:42:07,880 --> 00:42:10,719
like watching this girl drop her glasses in the water.

801
00:42:11,039 --> 00:42:13,079
Pip Up gets it, and then they're like, oh, wow,

802
00:42:13,079 --> 00:42:15,440
you're so amazing something helpful, thank you, and they become

803
00:42:15,480 --> 00:42:17,679
like friends and there's this like bond and then crow

804
00:42:17,679 --> 00:42:19,960
Gunk does the same thing. And then after all this

805
00:42:20,079 --> 00:42:22,760
jealousy between crow Gunk and pip Up, it happens again

806
00:42:22,800 --> 00:42:24,800
and Sidewalk appears and I was just laughing so hard.

807
00:42:25,199 --> 00:42:28,199
Speaker 1: Man. She's so lucky at finding fast Pokemon because literally,

808
00:42:28,079 --> 00:42:31,760
like every Pokemon she finds and it's always because she

809
00:42:31,800 --> 00:42:33,960
drops her glasses. It's like an ongoing thing. And then

810
00:42:34,000 --> 00:42:35,679
Ash and Go are like, no way you drop your

811
00:42:35,679 --> 00:42:41,599
glasses sarcastically, but yeah, every time they're super fast Pokemon

812
00:42:41,639 --> 00:42:43,800
that end up winning in the competition or tying in

813
00:42:43,840 --> 00:42:47,239
the competition. So yeah, she's definitely lucky in that sense.

814
00:42:47,960 --> 00:42:49,679
Hell yeah, I wonder if you could make money off

815
00:42:49,679 --> 00:42:53,519
of that too, you know, off yeah Pokemon, your Pokemon places.

816
00:42:53,760 --> 00:42:55,920
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean in the game if you if you

817
00:42:55,960 --> 00:42:59,440
defeat another trainer, they give you their lunch money, so exactly.

818
00:43:00,480 --> 00:43:02,239
So it's probably the same thing with you. There's got

819
00:43:02,239 --> 00:43:04,360
to be some type of a reward for these races.

820
00:43:04,599 --> 00:43:07,679
Speaker 1: Another thing I appreciate about Pokemon, like it's always realistic too,

821
00:43:07,800 --> 00:43:11,239
Like a school kid will give you less money than like,

822
00:43:12,039 --> 00:43:14,639
I don't know, someone an adult with a better job,

823
00:43:14,679 --> 00:43:17,079
for example, exactly.

824
00:43:17,679 --> 00:43:21,119
Speaker 2: So it's also it's it's so funny that so Ash

825
00:43:21,199 --> 00:43:23,320
catch him is his name in the English dub, but

826
00:43:23,400 --> 00:43:25,480
in the sub he's Yeah.

827
00:43:25,519 --> 00:43:27,960
Speaker 1: That's why I think that the creator of bitcoin is

828
00:43:28,000 --> 00:43:33,199
a fan of Pokemon because his name is Toshi. Is

829
00:43:33,239 --> 00:43:36,119
it not Komodo or something like that, like the the

830
00:43:36,239 --> 00:43:41,519
fake name of the person created bitcoin. So yeah, I

831
00:43:41,599 --> 00:43:44,559
feel like he was just a fan of Pokemon. He's like, hey, man,

832
00:43:45,679 --> 00:43:52,239
Ash created bitcoin. That's the way I look at at least.

833
00:43:52,719 --> 00:43:56,119
Speaker 2: The next thing that happens is Ho Ho a throwback

834
00:43:56,199 --> 00:44:02,280
to Ash's first episode when he's leaving whatever the Joto

835
00:44:02,400 --> 00:44:04,119
region is that his first agent.

836
00:44:04,360 --> 00:44:08,960
Speaker 1: No no conto, no canto region, conto canto the way

837
00:44:08,960 --> 00:44:09,360
you want.

838
00:44:09,199 --> 00:44:12,199
Speaker 2: To get when. I'm happy that they showed it. I

839
00:44:12,199 --> 00:44:14,920
thought for a second they weren't going to bring it up. Yeah,

840
00:44:14,960 --> 00:44:18,840
when when Ashes leaving Palettetown and starting his journey and

841
00:44:19,039 --> 00:44:21,880
was like attacked by a bunch of Pokemon, he swears

842
00:44:21,880 --> 00:44:26,119
he thought he saw Ho Ho flying away, and I'm like,

843
00:44:26,119 --> 00:44:27,800
they better bring it up, And they brought it up, and.

844
00:44:28,280 --> 00:44:31,519
Speaker 1: Yeah, And another thing I appreciate is they redid it

845
00:44:31,920 --> 00:44:35,519
because in the first one it was like all in gold,

846
00:44:35,880 --> 00:44:39,119
if you remember, it was like bad quality all in gold,

847
00:44:39,840 --> 00:44:43,159
and they probably didn't know at that time what hole

848
00:44:43,159 --> 00:44:45,360
would actually look like, what its official colors would be,

849
00:44:45,360 --> 00:44:49,599
and everything. So they they brought it back, they reanimated it,

850
00:44:49,679 --> 00:44:52,880
and you actually saw ho in it's full glory. And

851
00:44:53,199 --> 00:44:57,159
in the next upcoming in the next upcoming set that's

852
00:44:57,199 --> 00:44:59,639
going to be a combination of Team Rocket, it's also

853
00:44:59,639 --> 00:45:01,559
going to have I have a Holo in it, and

854
00:45:01,599 --> 00:45:04,800
the trainers like looking up and the trainer is the

855
00:45:04,840 --> 00:45:08,239
actual trainer you played as Ethan in the second generation games,

856
00:45:08,559 --> 00:45:11,599
and he's looking up at the whole like shouting back

857
00:45:11,639 --> 00:45:15,280
to Ash seeing it in the beginning, I really need

858
00:45:15,280 --> 00:45:18,000
that card. But it it made me think of how

859
00:45:18,039 --> 00:45:20,800
epic Ho is and how much I enjoyed this episode.

860
00:45:21,320 --> 00:45:24,280
Speaker 2: I love that the grandfather finally got to see Ho

861
00:45:24,400 --> 00:45:26,719
Ho after all this time. So it had to be

862
00:45:26,719 --> 00:45:28,639
when there was a rainbow and it was raining at

863
00:45:28,639 --> 00:45:31,480
the top of the tower with like the the little

864
00:45:32,519 --> 00:45:35,920
not whatever with the feather and stuff like that, and

865
00:45:35,960 --> 00:45:38,320
the kids didn't get to see it, only the grandfather

866
00:45:38,360 --> 00:45:40,239
who spent his entire life trying to find them.

867
00:45:40,440 --> 00:45:43,000
Speaker 1: Hey, they have time to see it, bro, they have time.

868
00:45:43,599 --> 00:45:45,159
Speaker 2: I really enjoyed it. I thought it was wholesome, and

869
00:45:46,360 --> 00:45:47,800
I just loved the Pokemon world.

870
00:45:47,920 --> 00:45:50,480
Speaker 1: I love it. I agree, And I like the fact

871
00:45:50,559 --> 00:45:53,440
that he didn't tell them he saw it because he

872
00:45:53,519 --> 00:45:56,039
probably first of all, probably would have felt bad like them,

873
00:45:56,119 --> 00:45:58,800
be like, no fair, we didn't see it. But also

874
00:45:59,719 --> 00:46:02,800
he did didn't need to. He didn't need to like

875
00:46:02,920 --> 00:46:05,320
rub it in their faces. He was just happy with

876
00:46:05,679 --> 00:46:09,199
you know that one eighty he's gone through and he

877
00:46:09,280 --> 00:46:12,079
opened up his heart again to see the beauty of

878
00:46:12,079 --> 00:46:15,960
the world and like whole and his pessimism sort of

879
00:46:15,960 --> 00:46:19,480
reflected his entire like depressing worldview and how he didn't

880
00:46:19,480 --> 00:46:23,159
think magical things existed and stuff like that. And then

881
00:46:23,159 --> 00:46:27,039
in the end, it's nice how Ash helped redeem him

882
00:46:27,039 --> 00:46:29,000
and saved his life in a sense.

883
00:46:30,599 --> 00:46:36,440
Speaker 2: Yep, what's next? Wait? Did did Ash end up catching

884
00:46:36,440 --> 00:46:37,079
a dragon kite?

885
00:46:37,519 --> 00:46:37,800
Speaker 1: Yes?

886
00:46:38,320 --> 00:46:41,079
Speaker 2: Yes, he's building a lineup. I think you're gonna build

887
00:46:41,079 --> 00:46:42,519
an insane lineup he is.

888
00:46:42,599 --> 00:46:45,840
Speaker 1: I mean already, And how sick is it He didn't

889
00:46:45,880 --> 00:46:48,719
start with a cat orpy bro. He started with a dragonite.

890
00:46:48,760 --> 00:46:50,800
So again, like you said, we're not going back to

891
00:46:50,840 --> 00:46:54,639
the beginning straight from the bat. His first pokemon he

892
00:46:54,679 --> 00:46:57,280
caught here ends up being a dragon Night, which is

893
00:46:57,320 --> 00:47:01,039
considered one of the best pokemon. Yeah, like you can

894
00:47:01,079 --> 00:47:03,840
get right. It's considered a pseudo legendary and it explains

895
00:47:03,840 --> 00:47:06,239
it in this that it's very rare for people to

896
00:47:06,760 --> 00:47:11,519
have sightings of it. And then obviously super.

897
00:47:11,679 --> 00:47:13,599
Speaker 2: To cut you off there super quick in regards to

898
00:47:13,599 --> 00:47:15,920
the category thing, there was no reason for him to

899
00:47:15,960 --> 00:47:18,320
catch some of those early points like what was doing

900
00:47:18,480 --> 00:47:21,639
because he already has them. No, I guess he doesn't

901
00:47:21,639 --> 00:47:23,679
actually have it because Catebory ended up turning into a

902
00:47:23,719 --> 00:47:25,880
butter free and then the butter free was like he

903
00:47:26,000 --> 00:47:27,559
let free because it was in love.

904
00:47:28,639 --> 00:47:31,440
Speaker 1: Yeah. I get the reason, but I just appreciate that.

905
00:47:31,960 --> 00:47:35,760
For example, he didn't catch the wheedle or whatever because

906
00:47:36,079 --> 00:47:39,440
he probably didn't have a wheedl mm hmm. It's just

907
00:47:39,440 --> 00:47:40,079
not his goal.

908
00:47:40,320 --> 00:47:42,840
Speaker 2: Yeah, he's already caught a bunch of Pokemon. He's not

909
00:47:42,880 --> 00:47:44,440
trying to catch them all. I guess he's just trying

910
00:47:44,440 --> 00:47:47,800
to become a Pokemon master and whatever that means.

911
00:47:48,840 --> 00:47:49,079
Speaker 1: Yeah.

912
00:47:49,119 --> 00:47:51,119
Speaker 2: I will say though, it was cool that Go caught

913
00:47:51,119 --> 00:47:55,000
Acategory first the same way Ash caught Acadgory first, and.

914
00:47:55,000 --> 00:47:57,280
Speaker 1: Ash could look and be like, oh yeah, that brings

915
00:47:57,280 --> 00:47:57,679
me back.

916
00:47:59,400 --> 00:48:01,679
Speaker 2: And in Ash catching a dragon kite, they had a

917
00:48:01,719 --> 00:48:05,440
bond prior to it evolving into a dragon knite, exactly

918
00:48:05,800 --> 00:48:07,000
what they called a dragonaire.

919
00:48:07,480 --> 00:48:11,280
Speaker 1: It's a dragonaire. It couldn't fly, so he helped it

920
00:48:11,400 --> 00:48:17,360
fly by making Pikachu use like electric web and showing

921
00:48:17,360 --> 00:48:19,840
it how to bounce off of it. In order to

922
00:48:20,079 --> 00:48:25,360
help help facilitate learning dragon dance, which in turn strengthens

923
00:48:25,400 --> 00:48:28,639
it and lets it then fly. And we're learning a

924
00:48:28,639 --> 00:48:31,480
lot about Pokemon here, and one of my favorite aspects

925
00:48:31,519 --> 00:48:34,440
to it, it's like, why does a dragonaire look so

926
00:48:34,519 --> 00:48:37,639
different from a dragon kite? Why did it evolve legs

927
00:48:37,679 --> 00:48:41,800
and hands? And it's and it's a speculation, but I

928
00:48:41,920 --> 00:48:45,599
like it. Dragon kites are known to rescue people, and

929
00:48:46,119 --> 00:48:50,599
what what dragonaire was trying to rescue ash its skin

930
00:48:50,840 --> 00:48:54,119
just ash would just slip off its skin, so it evolved.

931
00:48:54,440 --> 00:48:57,440
And then they come to the conclusion that it's not proven,

932
00:48:57,760 --> 00:49:00,000
but it's likely that it evolved so it could say

933
00:49:00,159 --> 00:49:02,480
people with its hands because it couldn't as a dragon air,

934
00:49:02,639 --> 00:49:05,880
which was such such a cool thing. And I love

935
00:49:05,880 --> 00:49:08,199
how we're still learning stuff about the Pokemon world so

936
00:49:08,239 --> 00:49:09,000
many years later.

937
00:49:09,159 --> 00:49:11,400
Speaker 2: Yeah, especially if like this is like I mean, it

938
00:49:11,440 --> 00:49:14,320
is canon, but like if the majority of dragon Knights

939
00:49:14,639 --> 00:49:17,679
are on this one island, right, that's how I think,

940
00:49:17,920 --> 00:49:21,599
And this and this island is hidden because of whatever

941
00:49:21,639 --> 00:49:22,559
the circumstances.

942
00:49:22,559 --> 00:49:24,760
Speaker 1: They had good reasoning there too, but go.

943
00:49:24,719 --> 00:49:28,000
Speaker 2: On, yes, and so that's why they're always going to

944
00:49:28,039 --> 00:49:30,519
be saving people because people are constantly going to be

945
00:49:30,519 --> 00:49:33,199
caught in that storm that protects this island. So if

946
00:49:33,199 --> 00:49:35,880
they wanted to, like in their upbringing, in their evolution,

947
00:49:36,039 --> 00:49:38,320
they want to save these people, it makes sense for

948
00:49:38,360 --> 00:49:40,639
them to have arms based on their location and what

949
00:49:40,760 --> 00:49:43,559
keeps on happening. Yeah, and which I think is great.

950
00:49:43,719 --> 00:49:46,119
And they also brought up go Ahead's right.

951
00:49:46,280 --> 00:49:48,280
Speaker 1: No, I was gonna say. A nice touch is that

952
00:49:48,400 --> 00:49:51,159
they made it sort of like a Bermuda triangle where

953
00:49:51,199 --> 00:49:54,880
you don't have signal there, so it's really well protected.

954
00:49:55,320 --> 00:49:57,360
And I like in the end how they decided to

955
00:49:57,400 --> 00:49:59,679
now publish a paper about it and to just keep that

956
00:50:00,039 --> 00:50:04,039
street to themselves to protect the dragon Knite, right, I agree.

957
00:50:04,239 --> 00:50:08,920
Speaker 2: I agree. Also, there was a theory a while back

958
00:50:08,920 --> 00:50:12,079
that like a dragon Air was supposed to evolve into

959
00:50:12,119 --> 00:50:15,400
Milotic and then maybe they they changed their mind or

960
00:50:15,400 --> 00:50:19,800
something and decided to do Dragon Dragonite. And they even

961
00:50:19,880 --> 00:50:23,480
bring up the Milotic in the in the anime.

962
00:50:24,360 --> 00:50:27,119
Speaker 1: Yeah. The only issue is Melodic is such a likely

963
00:50:27,119 --> 00:50:28,480
different generation.

964
00:50:29,639 --> 00:50:32,119
Speaker 2: Maybe that maybe the author changed their minds and kept

965
00:50:32,159 --> 00:50:32,639
it for later.

966
00:50:32,920 --> 00:50:36,760
Speaker 1: Yeah, maybe Melodic is such a weird like first generation,

967
00:50:37,159 --> 00:50:40,119
like first evolution too. It's like an ugly fish sort

968
00:50:40,159 --> 00:50:42,679
of thing. Yeah, like an ugly brown fish and then

969
00:50:42,719 --> 00:50:44,679
becomes a beautiful, melodic.

970
00:50:48,320 --> 00:50:50,320
Speaker 2: Okay, what happens next?

971
00:50:50,559 --> 00:50:53,280
Speaker 1: I will just add I like the way that when

972
00:50:53,320 --> 00:50:56,480
he caught the Pokemon Dragon Nighte it wasn't even like

973
00:50:56,559 --> 00:50:58,800
he didn't even have to try the dragon kites like, oh,

974
00:50:58,840 --> 00:51:01,159
I want you to catch me, and then he's he's

975
00:51:01,199 --> 00:51:03,760
literally like okay, cool, Like there was no question of

976
00:51:03,800 --> 00:51:08,719
whether the Pokemon would would end up being successful. It

977
00:51:08,800 --> 00:51:11,039
will because the Dragon I wanted to catch him based

978
00:51:11,039 --> 00:51:12,559
on friendship, So I thought that was cool.

979
00:51:12,599 --> 00:51:15,320
Speaker 2: That's such an ash.

980
00:51:15,719 --> 00:51:17,239
Speaker 1: And then we get the Gangar.

981
00:51:18,320 --> 00:51:20,719
Speaker 2: Yeah, Gangar is cool. I was always a fan of Gangar.

982
00:51:20,920 --> 00:51:25,400
Speaker 1: I'm thinking he's got cash this Gangar, do you think? Yeah?

983
00:51:25,800 --> 00:51:26,639
Speaker 2: I hope so, I.

984
00:51:26,719 --> 00:51:29,840
Speaker 1: Think he's gonna catch it. But it didn't work out

985
00:51:29,920 --> 00:51:34,920
that way, and it was a bit of a yeah again.

986
00:51:35,880 --> 00:51:38,559
I don't know how realistic it is that this little

987
00:51:39,159 --> 00:51:43,599
electric dog thing like sent the sent the Gangar packing,

988
00:51:43,880 --> 00:51:46,760
but it's clear that Gangar is not done, as we

989
00:51:46,800 --> 00:51:49,119
see him in that eerie scene at the end.

990
00:51:50,360 --> 00:51:52,599
Speaker 2: Also, Ganguar the last cannon of a Pokemon.

991
00:51:53,000 --> 00:51:54,320
Speaker 1: He's amazing in the games.

992
00:51:54,360 --> 00:51:56,880
Speaker 2: In the game, they could do so much damage, but like, literally,

993
00:51:56,920 --> 00:51:59,480
it gets wrecked by everybody and anything, even a fucking

994
00:51:59,480 --> 00:51:59,960
little dog.

995
00:52:00,519 --> 00:52:04,000
Speaker 1: So fair enough, Okay, fair enough. I think Alec Exam

996
00:52:04,199 --> 00:52:07,320
was that kind of situation too. I think a super

997
00:52:07,360 --> 00:52:11,039
strong attack, but then defence you could use.

998
00:52:10,960 --> 00:52:15,039
Speaker 2: Word and fast Gangar like super strong, super fast gets

999
00:52:15,039 --> 00:52:16,400
wrecked so easily.

1000
00:52:16,920 --> 00:52:19,079
Speaker 1: Okay, fair enough if you don't, if you.

1001
00:52:19,159 --> 00:52:20,639
Speaker 2: Honestly, when I when I used to play with Gangle,

1002
00:52:20,719 --> 00:52:22,800
I'm like, if I don't one shot the guy, like

1003
00:52:23,000 --> 00:52:24,079
he's probably going down.

1004
00:52:24,639 --> 00:52:27,159
Speaker 1: Unfortunate. I didn't get to play Gangar much because, like,

1005
00:52:27,239 --> 00:52:29,599
you have the trade to evolve, and that was always

1006
00:52:29,599 --> 00:52:30,760
such a headache.

1007
00:52:31,000 --> 00:52:33,679
Speaker 2: Yeah, two of my main pokemon that were always in

1008
00:52:33,679 --> 00:52:36,639
my lineup. I always had the trade to evolve. I

1009
00:52:36,679 --> 00:52:38,800
would run much Champ and Gangar.

1010
00:52:39,360 --> 00:52:42,559
Speaker 1: Yeah it's cool if you had the friends that that

1011
00:52:42,760 --> 00:52:46,159
had the thing, but as kids, like, yeah, my friends

1012
00:52:46,159 --> 00:52:49,039
were playing, but there weren't a lot of people rich

1013
00:52:49,159 --> 00:52:51,079
enough to get one of those like trading things.

1014
00:52:53,000 --> 00:52:55,880
Speaker 2: Yeah, dude, the Game Boy Advance you had to connected

1015
00:52:56,000 --> 00:52:58,519
via wire. Yeah yeah I did that before.

1016
00:52:58,840 --> 00:53:00,239
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's that's what I'm thinking of.

1017
00:53:02,159 --> 00:53:04,000
Speaker 2: Oh my god, that's what a throwback.

1018
00:53:04,360 --> 00:53:07,000
Speaker 1: Yeah, nostalgic bro that's what I'm saying.

1019
00:53:07,039 --> 00:53:08,880
Speaker 2: I still have my game Boy Color and my game

1020
00:53:08,880 --> 00:53:09,519
Boy Advance.

1021
00:53:10,360 --> 00:53:12,320
Speaker 1: Yeah I have. I don't know how well it would work,

1022
00:53:12,440 --> 00:53:14,800
but I do have it. I do have it too.

1023
00:53:15,119 --> 00:53:16,400
Speaker 2: What was your favorite Pokemon game?

1024
00:53:18,760 --> 00:53:26,199
Speaker 1: I gotta say I think it was probably And I'm

1025
00:53:26,239 --> 00:53:29,280
not going to go back to the old ones and

1026
00:53:29,320 --> 00:53:32,000
how much I enjoyed them at the time, because I'm

1027
00:53:32,000 --> 00:53:34,000
just gonna try to say what I think is actually

1028
00:53:34,159 --> 00:53:40,159
a better game. And I did like Hard Gold, but

1029
00:53:40,360 --> 00:53:42,679
if I go back now try to play those first ones,

1030
00:53:43,280 --> 00:53:47,239
it's just so much grinding, and like, you know, I'm

1031
00:53:47,280 --> 00:53:49,199
sure I could enjoy it if I had like a

1032
00:53:49,239 --> 00:53:52,920
summer off and you know, but now it's I do

1033
00:53:53,079 --> 00:53:58,199
like I appreciate that new Pokemon games have that fast pacedness,

1034
00:53:58,239 --> 00:54:01,199
because yes, maybe it's not as challenging, but as an adult,

1035
00:54:01,719 --> 00:54:04,519
I like to just relax, turn off my brain a

1036
00:54:04,559 --> 00:54:08,679
bit and not have to like grind. And yes, maybe

1037
00:54:08,719 --> 00:54:11,960
a few battles will be a little more difficult because

1038
00:54:12,000 --> 00:54:15,039
I'm not grinding, but then I could use strategy and

1039
00:54:15,079 --> 00:54:17,360
stuff to figure out a way to overcome it. I

1040
00:54:17,440 --> 00:54:22,320
prefer that then knowing I can't win unless I grind

1041
00:54:22,360 --> 00:54:25,239
which I feel like the first few games were kind

1042
00:54:25,239 --> 00:54:29,119
of like that, but super nostalgic. I love the vibe

1043
00:54:29,159 --> 00:54:29,719
of the games.

1044
00:54:30,920 --> 00:54:32,679
Speaker 2: Or maybe you just didn't have the strategy in you

1045
00:54:32,840 --> 00:54:34,760
yet you didn't have the experience.

1046
00:54:34,280 --> 00:54:36,440
Speaker 1: Perhaps perhaps kidding.

1047
00:54:37,840 --> 00:54:41,760
Speaker 2: I was a kid, same dude. I would just level

1048
00:54:41,800 --> 00:54:43,719
up my main guy to like the highest level possible

1049
00:54:43,719 --> 00:54:44,480
and try to steam roll.

1050
00:54:44,760 --> 00:54:47,119
Speaker 1: I tried to do that, and then I'd always I'd

1051
00:54:47,159 --> 00:54:49,079
do that because I had Gold and that was the

1052
00:54:49,079 --> 00:54:51,239
one I played the most, and I do that with

1053
00:54:51,320 --> 00:54:54,880
a type losion. You know that that's in the cool

1054
00:54:54,960 --> 00:54:58,440
line at every time. And I had a game that

1055
00:54:58,440 --> 00:55:00,719
didn't save, so I'd have to like try to get

1056
00:55:00,760 --> 00:55:05,480
as far as possible. It's like yeah, and I tried

1057
00:55:05,480 --> 00:55:08,440
to like speed run it, but every time I'd have

1058
00:55:08,639 --> 00:55:14,960
trouble at the Ghost the Ghost Leader h I don't

1059
00:55:15,000 --> 00:55:16,559
know if it might not be Sabrina might be a

1060
00:55:16,559 --> 00:55:19,719
different one. But at the Scary City Eerie City, I

1061
00:55:19,719 --> 00:55:21,119
would always have trouble there.

1062
00:55:21,599 --> 00:55:25,559
Speaker 2: So I had Pokemon Crystal and I remember having Syndical

1063
00:55:25,639 --> 00:55:28,239
as well. Is that the other half of Haark Gold no.

1064
00:55:28,960 --> 00:55:33,559
Speaker 1: Uh No Heart Gold and Soul Silver are remakes of

1065
00:55:33,679 --> 00:55:37,840
Gold and Silver that came later, like improved graphics, uh,

1066
00:55:37,960 --> 00:55:40,880
color design choices and stuff like that.

1067
00:55:41,519 --> 00:55:42,679
Speaker 2: Crystal Silver.

1068
00:55:44,480 --> 00:55:47,519
Speaker 1: Crystal is is it came out around the same time

1069
00:55:47,599 --> 00:55:51,039
Gold and Silver. It's just that like upgrade, you know,

1070
00:55:51,199 --> 00:55:56,639
just like there's for diamond and Pearl, there's Platinum, you know, Rugby,

1071
00:55:56,679 --> 00:55:58,840
and there's Emerald.

1072
00:55:59,280 --> 00:56:02,639
Speaker 2: Yeah, Crystal was my first Pokemon game, and then I

1073
00:56:02,719 --> 00:56:07,800
played like fire Red. My favorite was Emerald Emerald.

1074
00:56:07,880 --> 00:56:10,280
Speaker 1: Yeah, I didn't play Emerald, but I did. Uh. I

1075
00:56:10,280 --> 00:56:14,199
did get the chance to beat what what was the

1076
00:56:14,280 --> 00:56:19,800
remake called something Ruby? Right? I played that remake Requasa

1077
00:56:20,039 --> 00:56:23,559
Omega Ruby. I don't think I caught Requasa. I don't think.

1078
00:56:23,559 --> 00:56:26,840
I don't know if you can in it, but if

1079
00:56:26,840 --> 00:56:29,320
you can, I didn't get that far because there's probably

1080
00:56:29,360 --> 00:56:32,039
like a special thing. I caught the crowd on, right, but.

1081
00:56:32,280 --> 00:56:34,119
Speaker 2: Oh got it, got it? Yeah, so I caught him.

1082
00:56:34,639 --> 00:56:36,639
You probably could. If you caught groud on, you probably

1083
00:56:36,679 --> 00:56:39,440
could catch for Quasa. It was like a special thing

1084
00:56:39,880 --> 00:56:43,320
I remember catching No, dude.

1085
00:56:44,280 --> 00:56:46,039
Speaker 1: Let's better shot.

1086
00:56:46,800 --> 00:56:49,079
Speaker 2: Okay, I'm gonna I'm gonna mute while you talk about

1087
00:56:49,079 --> 00:56:50,079
these last couple episodes.

1088
00:56:50,679 --> 00:56:53,239
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, I think we pretty much covered most of it,

1089
00:56:53,320 --> 00:56:56,840
so we got the gangar right, I do expect to

1090
00:56:56,840 --> 00:56:59,320
see more of him, and made it very clear that

1091
00:56:59,480 --> 00:57:01,880
he had as we haven't seen the last of him

1092
00:57:01,920 --> 00:57:03,840
at the final panel, which was sick by the way.

1093
00:57:03,880 --> 00:57:06,039
I love the way they animated that. And then we

1094
00:57:06,079 --> 00:57:08,280
already talked about the final episode, which was the Flash

1095
00:57:08,360 --> 00:57:10,000
of the Titans, because it was so hype we talked

1096
00:57:10,000 --> 00:57:14,119
about it early. It was that great battle between Leon

1097
00:57:14,599 --> 00:57:17,679
and Lance. Lance us old school guys will remember, he's

1098
00:57:17,719 --> 00:57:21,039
the Dragon Trainer. He was always associated with power and

1099
00:57:21,079 --> 00:57:24,400
being super skilled. And then you have Leon, which it

1100
00:57:24,440 --> 00:57:26,519
makes sense that a new series will create a new

1101
00:57:26,559 --> 00:57:29,320
hero to beat, and he ends up beating him with

1102
00:57:29,360 --> 00:57:31,880
the chars Are. Chars Are one of the most iconic Pokemon,

1103
00:57:32,320 --> 00:57:35,400
one of the most consistent chase cards, and expensive Pokemon

1104
00:57:35,480 --> 00:57:37,840
in the card game as well, so he's just super

1105
00:57:37,840 --> 00:57:41,480
popular all around. So it makes sense that we still

1106
00:57:41,559 --> 00:57:45,920
get a charz Yard to be fans of, even though

1107
00:57:45,960 --> 00:57:49,079
Ash might not be using it in the battle. So

1108
00:57:49,320 --> 00:57:51,519
I think that pretty much covers it, unless you want

1109
00:57:51,519 --> 00:57:53,079
to add anything else. I love the fact that the

1110
00:57:53,159 --> 00:57:55,920
chars Are had a thunder punch, and so even though

1111
00:57:55,960 --> 00:58:00,639
you think Garrettos water super frank against Charzard. That move

1112
00:58:01,119 --> 00:58:05,760
can strategically flip the switch and actually charge our can

1113
00:58:05,840 --> 00:58:09,360
be twice super effective against Gerretto's because of flying type

1114
00:58:09,400 --> 00:58:13,519
and water. So yeah, that's pretty much it for me. Briggs.

1115
00:58:13,840 --> 00:58:16,599
If you get the chance to unmute, you can give

1116
00:58:16,599 --> 00:58:17,960
me your closing thoughts too.

1117
00:58:18,719 --> 00:58:22,039
Speaker 2: My closing thoughts while this alarm is is going off,

1118
00:58:22,079 --> 00:58:23,559
I just want to say I loved it. I really

1119
00:58:23,639 --> 00:58:25,800
enjoyed it. We basically covered everything I love that. We

1120
00:58:25,800 --> 00:58:27,599
were able to talk for close to an hour about

1121
00:58:27,599 --> 00:58:31,239
these about these Pokemon episodes, and Emerald endgame is the

1122
00:58:31,239 --> 00:58:32,519
best Pokemon end game.

1123
00:58:33,000 --> 00:58:36,599
Speaker 1: Fair enough, all right, guys, thanks for tuning in. We're

1124
00:58:36,599 --> 00:58:39,480
gonna let you guys know in the description of the

1125
00:58:39,519 --> 00:58:43,320
podcast what we decide to do next. If it's gonna

1126
00:58:43,320 --> 00:58:45,760
be the next twelve episodes, or if it's gonna we're

1127
00:58:45,760 --> 00:58:47,840
gonna jump to some point in the future that may

1128
00:58:47,840 --> 00:58:51,320
be more action packed. We'll see. But until next time,

1129
00:58:51,679 --> 00:58:53,320
see a space Cowboys.