Speaker 1: Rick.
Speaker 2: Okay, now we got you. Rick, you're there.
Speaker 3: I am here all right, Sorry about all that. I
Speaker 3: have a new phone and I forgot about that. We
Speaker 3: forgot to get it hooked up to our system.
Speaker 1: Here. How are you doing in New Orleans?
Speaker 4: I'm doing great.
Speaker 5: Uh. If you hear a bunch of noise in the background,
Speaker 5: I'm in the airport. Oh, I'm on the Injury Deserve.
Speaker 5: Bruised my achille, So I'm getting on a plane and
Speaker 5: coming back home. I was walking around. It's not fun. Yeah.
Speaker 4: Man, were you.
Speaker 1: Part of the flag football program or something?
Speaker 4: Because you you were originally.
Speaker 6: Originally going to come back tomorrow, which kind of shocked us.
Speaker 6: Why why wouldn't you stay for the whole situation till Sunday?
Speaker 4: You didn't hear what I said. I said, I bruised
Speaker 4: my achilles.
Speaker 6: No, no, no, Oh, So you already had planned and
Speaker 6: coming back on tomorrow or.
Speaker 1: To day to the end.
Speaker 5: Yeah, yeah, yeah, I couldn't. I couldn't walk anymore. I
Speaker 5: couldn't take that walk around. I mean it's not like
Speaker 5: he's not like you can drive anywhere in New Walls.
Speaker 5: It's a long walk.
Speaker 1: Don't they know you? Ricky Honey? Just get a cart.
Speaker 4: Well, next time, I'm going to make sure that you're
Speaker 4: personal everything. Yes, everything will goes smooth, just like you
Speaker 4: know what you will.
Speaker 3: I'll drive you if you want to take me with you, Okay,
Speaker 3: well Steve and I will go. We'll escort you, will
Speaker 3: be your bodyguards and all that.
Speaker 6: So does it seem so long ago that you participated
Speaker 6: or is it just like yesterday?
Speaker 5: You know, every time you turn around and you start
Speaker 5: reflecting back and you're seeing the game being played over
Speaker 5: and over again on TV, it's like yesterday. But in reality,
Speaker 5: we know it's been the years, the years.
Speaker 2: How do you how do you.
Speaker 3: I think we've asked you this before, but I've forgotten.
Speaker 3: How do you take in the Super Bowl?
Speaker 1: Right?
Speaker 2: How do you?
Speaker 3: How do you pay attention to it? Do you kind
Speaker 3: of just watch it casually? Are you watching guys? Do
Speaker 3: you have friends, do you have coaches? Whatever?
Speaker 2: How do you? How do you take it in?
Speaker 5: Well?
Speaker 4: You know, over the years it changes because I mean
Speaker 4: I have.
Speaker 5: Friends that are coaching in the game for the Kansas
Speaker 5: City Chiefs like Dave Toe and Andy Hill, and then
Speaker 5: there's players that actually.
Speaker 4: Be coached at Arizona just recently, like.
Speaker 5: Christian Roland Wallace. He's playing for Kansas City.
Speaker 4: So you know, you're kind of room for people, you.
Speaker 5: Know, but other than that, you're a fan that you
Speaker 5: like a great player like Barkley.
Speaker 4: You like a great player like.
Speaker 5: A Curse and you know, and anybody in their right
Speaker 5: mind don't bet against Patrick mahone in big games.
Speaker 4: He's just.
Speaker 1: Now, g just got up, He's gonna go.
Speaker 2: I'll be right back. I gotta go throw something down
Speaker 2: on the Chiefs.
Speaker 6: Yeah, so, Ricky, do when you watch the game or
Speaker 6: any game, do you look at it through a player's
Speaker 6: eyes or try to just enjoy it? You know, this
Speaker 6: guy went the wrong place, ran the wrong routine or route.
Speaker 5: Well, you try to enjoy it, but you see things
Speaker 5: that you're like, oh my god. Watching the playoff game
Speaker 5: the city in Buffalo and the receiver number one he
Speaker 5: was just I mean, he was just I mean it
Speaker 5: was like a computer game. Watched him with his applank
Speaker 5: ability and how he can get open, and it's just
Speaker 5: I think that the receivers that they have are far
Speaker 5: more superior than the receivers stilly that and so it
Speaker 5: gives a home, you know, greater weapons both defenses are
Speaker 5: pretty even. You know, they're opportunistics, they create turnovers. You know,
Speaker 5: they're ball hawks. They get hit the ball out. And
Speaker 5: because it comes down to the team that don't turn
Speaker 5: the ball over, I they can win this football game.
Speaker 3: In terms of the two teams and just you know,
Speaker 3: who's who's the better team? What what's your what are
Speaker 3: your thoughts on these two teams. Let's say if they
Speaker 3: both played their best.
Speaker 2: Game, who wins the game?
Speaker 4: And man, it's my whole manager.
Speaker 5: It comes down in Kansas City and my home.
Speaker 6: Yeah, you know, let me ask you to I think
Speaker 6: maybe we asked you this a year two ago. I'm
Speaker 6: not too sure, but when you played, did you get
Speaker 6: nervous before the game, and then, if so, did it
Speaker 6: go away at some point?
Speaker 5: Yeah, everybody's nervous, you absolutely, little Butterfly's flowing and then
Speaker 5: once the game kicks it all time, he's just playing.
Speaker 5: You know, they're you know, you're you're on a whole
Speaker 5: different high level. You're just playing the game.
Speaker 3: But but at some point, Ricky, you know, if let's
Speaker 3: say you're you know, you're playing defense, so you're you're
Speaker 3: you're you're on the bench, you're sitting down, you're catching
Speaker 3: a break, you're drinking some water. You know, you're talking
Speaker 3: about you know the next thing to do. Doesn't it
Speaker 3: still at some point when you're sitting there and you're
Speaker 3: not out on the field itself, doesn't it feel different anyways?
Speaker 2: You know that that.
Speaker 3: I know it's a game, but you sit there and
Speaker 3: you think maybe you got a moment you say say, damn,
Speaker 3: this is the Super Bowl.
Speaker 5: Oh I remember that time, just on the introduction, running
Speaker 5: through the tunnel and you're here, Pat Somemmer all calling
Speaker 5: out your name, and and and then he realizes, I
Speaker 5: don't know how many there's millions of people watching. You
Speaker 5: came to a different feeling. And then when you're in
Speaker 5: the game, uh, you know, it's it's sold out, it's back,
Speaker 5: and it's cameras everywhere, and then you realize it's a
Speaker 5: big deal. It's a real big deal.
Speaker 1: So you played in two, correct, Yeah, you played in two.
Speaker 6: Would your I don't say legacy, but if your your
Speaker 6: image or whatever word you want to use, would have
Speaker 6: been different had you won one.
Speaker 5: Absolutely, the early time you're champion, you're different. You'll always
Speaker 5: be the champion, and now you'll always be a guy
Speaker 5: who never wont you come down?
Speaker 3: Well, yeah, but you know what Rick, You know, Steve
Speaker 3: and I are sitting here a couple of fat guys
Speaker 3: on the radio and thinking, you when you went to
Speaker 3: two super Bowls, Man, I mean, nobody can ever take
Speaker 3: that away. And then and there's you know, you can
Speaker 3: count the number of guys that have been in Super
Speaker 3: Bowls and there's not a whole ton of them on
Speaker 3: this planet. So uh, you know, I mean you have
Speaker 3: to you have to take it like that, don't you.
Speaker 4: Well, you still want to your body of work.
Speaker 5: You wanted to be that. You know, you were at
Speaker 5: least champion one time, you know, And it's the hardest
Speaker 5: thing in the world to do is to be a
Speaker 5: super Bowl champion. And it that's all to those people
Speaker 5: that do it multiple times. And they got something that
Speaker 5: people who get there multiple times. I mean, I mean
Speaker 5: the bike has swung the bad four times and miss
Speaker 5: Buffalo swung it four times and miss and it's stuff,
Speaker 5: you know, And now the Chief's got a chance to
Speaker 5: do it three times and win. It's gonna be incredible.
Speaker 3: When when you see the event that it's become today
Speaker 3: with you know, the amount of media and uh, you know,
Speaker 3: everything that goes with it today, social media and all
Speaker 3: that stuff compared to you know, when when you played
Speaker 3: in it. What would you advise somebody who's going into
Speaker 3: play their first super Bowl with the way it is
Speaker 3: now compared to the way you saw it, what would
Speaker 3: you tell them?
Speaker 5: I think the most important thing is to understand that,
Speaker 5: you know, this game is bigger than you, and it's
Speaker 5: not about you. It's about what you do one for
Speaker 5: your team and you put all that work in and
Speaker 5: that is special. It's a special time as a special moment.
Speaker 5: So you know, I have a single pope, per focus,
Speaker 5: you know, have a single purpose, and it's all about
Speaker 5: that moment that day because you can't get it back
Speaker 5: if you screw it up. You know, if you can
Speaker 5: prepare her and you do everything the right way, that's great.
Speaker 5: But it only matters that your whole entire team is
Speaker 5: that way because that's what it takes on that day
Speaker 5: to win, you know, because all it takes is one
Speaker 5: screw up, and the one screw up screws everybody up right.
Speaker 2: Yeah, no, I hear you. That's such the magnitude of
Speaker 2: it just got to be unbelievable.
Speaker 6: Yeah, when you got there. When you got there the
Speaker 6: first time? Give me the year?
Speaker 1: Is it good?
Speaker 5: Eighty?
Speaker 4: Was it two thousand?
Speaker 1: No, it wasn't.
Speaker 5: Eighty eighty six and eighty seven, he said, So when you.
Speaker 6: Got there in eighty six, he says, Okay, we got there.
Speaker 6: Doesn't seem easy. But you say you don't win it,
Speaker 6: you're gonna come back. There's always not feeling you're gonna
Speaker 6: come back and come back and come back.
Speaker 4: Oh yeah, there's always a feeling.
Speaker 5: You're going to come back. But you only delivered on
Speaker 5: that field at one time, right, right?
Speaker 1: Yeah?
Speaker 3: Yeah, no, I hear so, So how will you how
Speaker 3: will you watch a game? You're heading back just sitting
Speaker 3: on your couch. You go hang out with some friends.
Speaker 3: How will you watch a game this Saturday or Sunday?
Speaker 5: Well, I'll come back and I'll watch a long TV Yeah, yeah, family.
Speaker 6: Right, and then stay in your in your nice little couch.
Speaker 6: Don't move that leg, don't move elevated. How the hell
Speaker 6: did you hurt? You get hurt?
Speaker 1: Somebody blind?
Speaker 3: Cycling?
Speaker 5: Yeah, get.
Speaker 3: Well, you've done well. You've done some things to your
Speaker 3: body that neither of us have had to do. So
Speaker 3: I I hear you that it's gotta you know, there's
Speaker 3: gotta be some issues of I'm sure over time.
Speaker 1: I'm sure Lamont probably tripped you or something perpost.
Speaker 5: Yeah he's laughing about it.
Speaker 6: Yeah, Ricky is always Thanks for joining us, man, We
Speaker 6: appreciate it.
Speaker 2: Be safe coming in, you say, be healthy man, take care.
Speaker 5: Of that leg us.
Speaker 1: I appreciate it.
Speaker 5: Thank you.
Speaker 1: Thanks about Ricky Hely Denver, Bronco.
Speaker 3: Great a couple of a couple of super Bowls, you know,
Speaker 3: And again I mean I kind of said I half joking,
Speaker 3: but not joking. I mean, look, and you know, we're
Speaker 3: gonna talk to Glenn Glenn Parker who lost five Super Bowls.
Speaker 3: The keyword is super Bowl. He's been sure and he's
Speaker 3: seen it and been in it and none of us have.
Speaker 1: Here's my thing, and I think you and I have
Speaker 1: talked about it.
Speaker 6: There was when I went to the two thousand and
Speaker 6: one Final four, went to the championship game, right, probably,
Speaker 6: in my opinion, the best team you've ever had.
Speaker 1: They didn't win it, and.
Speaker 2: Nobody really talks about them, about that team.
Speaker 1: About that team, and to me, they're the best team ever.
Speaker 2: Yeah, well you can make that. Ye he's gonna make
Speaker 2: that they were certainly.
Speaker 3: Better than the ninety seven team that did win it, right, right,
Speaker 3: you know you put those two teams on the court,
Speaker 3: and the two thousand and one team probably wins by fifteen.
Speaker 6: Well yeah, probably apples to apples, right, apples and apples.
Speaker 1: So you know you got to be the winner.
Speaker 3: Yeah, and and but again, uh, you know, for for
Speaker 3: those of us who you know, if you want to say, oh,
Speaker 3: you know, Glenn, you you didn't win one, well, okay,
Speaker 3: but went to five, you know.
Speaker 2: And and there's people who are like that.
Speaker 6: Well, you went to the Dodger game game one. You went,
Speaker 6: and what are you talking about? I went to the
Speaker 6: game one Dodgers. You're not a Dodger, right, But that
Speaker 6: was your right, That was that was that was your moment,
Speaker 6: going to be my best sports sports moment ever.
Speaker 2: And I think that it overtakes a home run I
Speaker 2: hit when I was twelve. That's how.
Speaker 6: That's how everyone has already screwed you by not taking
Speaker 6: to the road.
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Speaker 1: to take a break down, Yeah, let's go and take
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Speaker 1: Hey, you want to talk a little about the big
Speaker 1: game tomorrow.
Speaker 2: Let's you know, I know, the Iowa State game was
Speaker 2: a huge game.
Speaker 3: Yeah, all right, and that's made this game even bigger, sure, right,
Speaker 3: because I mean you you had Arizona losing only one
Speaker 3: conference game in the first half of the conference season.
Speaker 2: You were all over that, right, not about.
Speaker 1: But you know they've They've done exactly what they needed
Speaker 1: to do. They lost to Texas.
Speaker 6: Take that first game, they had a chance to win
Speaker 6: that they were in it until the last five minutes
Speaker 6: or whatever. That's why, you know, truthfully, I think they're
Speaker 6: going to be able to win tomorrow and do the
Speaker 6: same thing.
Speaker 1: Go away. I don't know.
Speaker 6: We were checking to see what the spread is tomorrow.
Speaker 6: But I like Arizona's chances well because they're at home.
Speaker 6: They're at home, and they're playing when they're playing so
Speaker 6: well stated. But you know what Texas Texas is not.
Speaker 1: They're really good.
Speaker 2: They're really good.
Speaker 3: They're they're one of those really physical, getting your face
Speaker 3: teams good offensively, they're kind of on a mission after
Speaker 3: after a top and got tossed from that game. Did
Speaker 3: he came out with a case of something in the
Speaker 3: next game and he was just mad And and I
Speaker 3: wan't underestimate how good Texas Tech is.
Speaker 1: I know, I know, I you know, I made some
Speaker 1: comments about.
Speaker 3: How there were some people who had no idea how
Speaker 3: how good Iowa State was, uh when when Arizona was
Speaker 3: playing them, And I think, you know, you think Texas Tech.
Speaker 3: You don't think Duke, you don't think Kentucky. You don't
Speaker 3: think Kansas they're really good? Yea, they're They're I can't.
Speaker 3: I think it was uh the Seth Greenberg. I think
Speaker 3: he said the national championship good. Yeah, not that they're
Speaker 3: going to but that they're good enough. Been broken a
Speaker 3: little since that game. We've lost a few games since
Speaker 3: then since Arizona. No, I'm talking about Texas Teche I
Speaker 3: saw that too.
Speaker 6: I think I don't think they're better than Iowa State.
Speaker 6: I don't think they're better than i was State. Texas
Speaker 6: Tech will fit, will go to tournament. Obviously, they might
Speaker 6: finish third, fourth, fifth in the in the conference.
Speaker 1: Where do you think Arizona's gonna land.
Speaker 5: Third?
Speaker 1: Second or third second or third with you know, like.
Speaker 3: I think party will come down to that Houston Gage.
Speaker 3: That's going to be a massive game. But then they're
Speaker 3: gonna have to go to go to Kansas after that.
Speaker 3: But Kansas approved has proven vulnerable.
Speaker 1: Iowa was state. They have to go there.
Speaker 2: Yeah, they got to go back to high with state.
Speaker 3: Remember they got Yeah, they've got some tough games that
Speaker 3: left to deal with. But every time you think that, Okay,
Speaker 3: they they're not going to win this one, then they do.
Speaker 3: I mean, I didn't think they were gonna be b Yu,
Speaker 3: did you? I thought they again, I thought they could.
Speaker 3: I just didn't think they were.
Speaker 1: You know.
Speaker 6: Honestly, it's funny because when I was with the kids
Speaker 6: and then I can't remember who was in I think
Speaker 6: it was Blake, and I picked the score exactly right,
Speaker 6: except the wrong winner, b Yu. Arizona played well, I
Speaker 6: played good defense, and by you shot poorly?
Speaker 1: Yeah, you just did.
Speaker 3: But and but it's you know, why did they shoot poorly?
Speaker 3: Because there's a defense is pretty darn good.
Speaker 6: I think they missed shots right. There was almost defense,
Speaker 6: you know. And you know what, through the through.
Speaker 1: The last ten to twelve games, Arizon found a defense.
Speaker 3: Well, here's here's the thing that that I'm hearing a
Speaker 3: lot of. By the way, Arizona is a two and
Speaker 3: a half point favorite.
Speaker 1: I was just up there, Howard he didn't say they
Speaker 1: don't have it two and a half favorite, two and
Speaker 1: a half favorite.
Speaker 2: By two and a half.
Speaker 1: I'm giving that. I'm giving that.
Speaker 2: Now all day.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 3: Here's the here's the thing that that that I keep
Speaker 3: hearing is that Tommy Lloyd is doing his best coaching
Speaker 3: job this year. I think that's because because of where
Speaker 3: they were compared to where.
Speaker 1: They are, how did they get there?
Speaker 3: Well, okay, my opinion, and you know you're I'm not
Speaker 3: in the locker room. I don't know, I don't you know,
Speaker 3: I don't get to talk to Tommy or anything like that.
Speaker 3: My guess, my guess is that at in that non
Speaker 3: conference season when they were just not playing very well.
Speaker 3: Remember we did the show a couple of times, their
Speaker 3: offense looked like just total chaos.
Speaker 2: At all times there was no flow to anything.
Speaker 3: I feel that Tommy had to have sat them down
Speaker 3: and said, and when I save them? The Three Guards,
Speaker 3: kJ Lewis, Caleb Love and and and and Jay and Bradley,
Speaker 3: you guys think you're going to go to the NBA,
Speaker 3: you're screwing it up. Okay, nobody's looking at you right
Speaker 3: now because you're playing like such crap. You know, you're
Speaker 3: all trying to get yours and if you keep trying
Speaker 3: to get yours, this is what it looks like now.
Speaker 3: If you want to show some value to who you
Speaker 3: are and what kind of a player you are, the
Speaker 3: three you have to play together. You can't be individuals
Speaker 3: out there because if you ask me, what I see
Speaker 3: that there's flow to what they're doing. Then there's the
Speaker 3: whole thing of kJ Lewis saying, okay, I'll come off
Speaker 3: the bench. I think they've gotten incredibly unselfish.
Speaker 1: Okay, I'll take some of that.
Speaker 6: Let me also tell you that since the UCLA game,
Speaker 6: not many teams have put them in a half court
Speaker 6: to make them look bad. Right, They've made them run
Speaker 6: and which, of course, if that's what they want to do,
Speaker 6: is what they want to do. So they haven't looked
Speaker 6: bad because that's what teams are letting them do. That's
Speaker 6: my first thought. I don't disagree with your philosophy of
Speaker 6: them telling them we're better together then separately, right, But
Speaker 6: it's more of the flow and the team that they've beaten.
Speaker 6: Outside of Baylor.
Speaker 2: And b Iowa State by they've won some good games.
Speaker 1: I would say, yeah, but in our world is a
Speaker 1: word and you know, beings.
Speaker 6: I gotta be lucky, you gotta be left and they did,
Speaker 6: and but you have to win those games luckier otherwise, Right,
Speaker 6: we're the casino.
Speaker 1: You have to get lucky.
Speaker 3: But you know, and look, Caleb Love is still at
Speaker 3: thirty percent uh three point shooter. He is and and
Speaker 3: just get used to the fact that that's what he is.
Speaker 3: It's he's got to shoot a lot to get to
Speaker 3: get the points that he gets. But you know, he's
Speaker 3: he's he's not five for you know, he's not shooting
Speaker 3: ten percent like he did a few of those games.
Speaker 6: I'll give you this uh b y u games specifically,
Speaker 6: and maybe moving forward, they have to sprinkle everybody's good stuff.
Speaker 6: B Sarr been fantastic in the second half, sprinkling him there.
Speaker 6: Bradley has been fantastic, sprinkle kJ has done what he's
Speaker 6: done defensively and otherwise. I mean, they're all getting little
Speaker 6: tidbits of stuff from people.
Speaker 2: Two words Tobyo and Toby holy cow.
Speaker 6: Well the only guy that hasn't really been there is Townsend. Yeah,
Speaker 6: but every hey als is kind of filling their spots.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 3: Well, you know, and then that's the thing, you know,
Speaker 3: Tobyo Waka, where did where did that come from?
Speaker 2: Right?
Speaker 3: Because I was giving him the the AJ Bramlett treatment
Speaker 3: at the beginning of the of the season. Is you
Speaker 3: know what I once said about AJ Bramlett that Tobyo
Speaker 3: Waka is not getting into the promised land. AJ Bramley
Speaker 3: did and we all know that I apologize to him
Speaker 3: on the show, but.
Speaker 1: In fact he's now he is.
Speaker 3: But I thought the same thing of Tobya Walker said,
Speaker 3: if Tobya Walk is the guy that they got to
Speaker 3: count on, because remember we were we were thinking that
Speaker 3: that Crevis was going to come back and play because
Speaker 3: he was playing, and it's just gonna it's gonna take
Speaker 3: time to get Crevas in there. Toby Wak is just
Speaker 3: gonna have to fill gap. Tobya Waka is really good.
Speaker 1: He's he's really good in the things that he needs.
Speaker 2: To do right, and he's not trying to do more.
Speaker 3: He's not always taking he's he's turned away some open
Speaker 3: fifteen footers because he's not one hundred percent sure he's
Speaker 3: going to right. But he's he's taken a few, he's
Speaker 3: made a few, but he's not out there shooting it
Speaker 3: every time he's got it. He's rebounding, he's physical, he's
Speaker 3: getting in the way he gets the ball and they
Speaker 3: can't take it away from him.
Speaker 2: And and and he's not falling out or anything like that.
Speaker 3: He's physical without putting his his his minutes in jeopardy.
Speaker 1: Well, he and Vsar are playing well. Together.
Speaker 6: He's doing it. He's the reason why they brought him
Speaker 6: in for the Big twelve. He's fitting perfectly right. He's
Speaker 6: a bruiser VStar is helping out and and we haven't
Speaker 6: really talked much about del orso he's been kind of
Speaker 6: hit and miss like a shot. But but he's been
Speaker 6: hidden up.
Speaker 5: Yeah.
Speaker 3: Well, I like him a lot, and he's a shooter
Speaker 3: that you know he's gonna make some key shots down
Speaker 3: the road. He seems a little wide eyed, a little
Speaker 3: in over his head with some of these teams who
Speaker 3: have quick, physical guys that can that can guard him.
Speaker 3: But you know, you get you if he's up against
Speaker 3: a team that he can get open and get a
Speaker 3: shot off, you know he's going to be useful there.
Speaker 6: Okay, So here's or February seventh, something like that. How
Speaker 6: far do they go today, because it'll change in a
Speaker 6: week or two or whatever. How far do they get today?
Speaker 6: They're definitely a Sweet sixteen team, Okay, because because of
Speaker 6: the way they're winning. You didn't think that two months ago?
Speaker 6: Oh hell no, no, I thought. I mean I never
Speaker 6: thought that they wouldn't get to the tournament. They're gonna
Speaker 6: win enough games, But you know, maybe a loss and
Speaker 6: a win and a loss or something like that.
Speaker 3: You know, this is a this is a Sweet sixteen game.
Speaker 3: A team that's that's trending towards going even a little further. Yeah,
Speaker 3: I mean, you know we were thinking last year that
Speaker 3: they were so dayg good. This is a national championship team.
Speaker 3: I don't see them as a national championship team, but
Speaker 3: they're trending in that direction instead of the opposite direct.
Speaker 6: You've got to like how they're doing or what they're doing.
Speaker 6: I still think that if Caleb Caleb gets hot, which
Speaker 6: is very case possible, possible, they could get to the
Speaker 6: Sweet sixteen and beyond. But it's all going to be
Speaker 6: on him playing out of his mind up.
Speaker 3: Well, you know you mentioned Trey Townsend and uh, you know,
Speaker 3: I'm still waiting for the to see when Carter Brian's
Speaker 3: going to.
Speaker 1: Take that spot. Well, you know what, that's exactly it.
Speaker 1: It should be.
Speaker 2: I mean, if it's not this weekend, it needs to
Speaker 2: be soon.
Speaker 6: But it seems like Tommy's he's he's set on what
Speaker 6: he's doing. You got the emotions from Carter, get the
Speaker 6: guys coming out the BA right and don't mess.
Speaker 2: What's working right exactly?
Speaker 3: You know, who's got who's got better guys coming off
Speaker 3: the bench than kJ Lewis, Carter Bryant and Henry Vassar,
Speaker 3: three guys one in, you know, each segment of the
Speaker 3: of the offense.
Speaker 2: Who's got three better guys.
Speaker 1: All capable, all starters.
Speaker 3: Really started a lot of places, and not just you know,
Speaker 3: not just you know, it started Eastern Michigan, I mean
Speaker 3: starting you know, at high level teams. Those guys are
Speaker 3: so you've got you've got that rotation of eight guys.
Speaker 2: Would you that they can play with anybody?
Speaker 6: Okay, So so if they if they happen to lose tomorrow,
Speaker 6: would you be surprised, given given what you just said.
Speaker 2: I'd be a little surprised.
Speaker 3: Because it's a home game, Okay, Okay, you played Texas
Speaker 3: Tech on a neutral court and a truly neutral court,
Speaker 3: you know, up in New York or somewhere. All right,
Speaker 3: it's fifty to fifty. I think they played ten games,
Speaker 3: they each win five.
Speaker 1: Well, they're only favor two and a half.
Speaker 3: You you know, you go to Texas Tech, you're probably
Speaker 3: going to lose. You come to Arizona, you play it.
Speaker 6: There, so you're probably going to happen in a couple
Speaker 6: of months. Yeah, they go to Kansas City and they
Speaker 6: might have to pay each other on their neutral court.
Speaker 2: Are you going to Kansas City?
Speaker 1: No?
Speaker 6: God, no, no, because a week later the DNC Double
Speaker 6: E turn right. You think I made of money?
Speaker 3: I thought you were. I have to win those super
Speaker 3: Bowl but I expect them to win. I'll be surprised
Speaker 3: if they don't.
Speaker 6: Then they go to Kansas State. Kansas State's kind of
Speaker 6: scary on the road.
Speaker 3: Everybody is scary on the road, Steve, That's exactly, and
Speaker 3: that's what's shocking about Arizona's record.
Speaker 2: But what they've won.
Speaker 3: They won five five conference road games, five or six
Speaker 3: conference road games. And look at where they've won. You
Speaker 3: I mean, who's gone in one at West Virginia, right, yeah,
Speaker 3: Cincinnati exactly.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 3: You know, I know you said Cincinnati wasn't shouldn't have
Speaker 3: been ranked when they played them, but they were ragged.
Speaker 2: Everybody thought they were good and they went in and
Speaker 2: won a Cincinnati.
Speaker 1: I'm good looking. I was good looking, but I'm good looking.
Speaker 2: You know they you know they wanted b Yu.
Speaker 3: I'm twenty nearly twenty thousand people at that game, and
Speaker 3: they and they wanted b YU and it was it
Speaker 3: was all up against them on on on Monday night.
Speaker 6: Did you stay up for that game? They to me,
Speaker 6: that's the most impressive win of the year. Really, everybody played.
Speaker 6: It was one of those sprinkle games. They just everything, singing,
Speaker 6: a little bit of everything on the road. You know
Speaker 6: how tough it is doing a b Yuh, of course
Speaker 6: it is.
Speaker 1: It's and where else? Pick a spot.
Speaker 2: I just think I just have flashes of gymmer for debt,
Speaker 2: right I was here?
Speaker 3: Yeah, well yeah that I know, but going you know,
Speaker 3: playing b YU.
Speaker 1: But what better win under the circumstances.
Speaker 2: Yeah, no, I.
Speaker 1: Beat I want to stay here on a sample and
Speaker 1: they but won where else? Yeah?
Speaker 3: No, I They've been impressive. They've been impressive over the
Speaker 3: last over the last what do you say, month and
Speaker 3: a half?
Speaker 6: Right, So so let's go go back to Tommy's best
Speaker 6: coaching job. I guess you could think that it's it's
Speaker 6: you know, recency biased.
Speaker 1: Uh.
Speaker 6: He had a pretty good first year under under the
Speaker 6: conditions of being the first year coach.
Speaker 1: But with talent. I get I get that, I get that.
Speaker 10: Maybe, But but I say that Steve because of again
Speaker 10: where they where they were and for whatever reason they
Speaker 10: were there, right, and maybe he was doing a poor
Speaker 10: coaching job at the time, right, but you know when
Speaker 10: they were four and five and coming off that horrible
Speaker 10: loss to u c.
Speaker 5: L A.
Speaker 3: Yeah, and to and to look at him now, you
Speaker 3: know you got people picking him to win the league, right, sure, sure,
Speaker 3: And so you know, I think the last the high
Speaker 3: seed I've seen somebody put them at.
Speaker 1: As a four so that they just recently just yeah, so.
Speaker 3: You know, but but again going in that in that
Speaker 3: direction all back they were there were four out.
Speaker 6: In Yeah, yeah, I agree with you. We'll see what happens.
Speaker 6: You know, there's still a lot of games to be played.
Speaker 6: H Houston, Kansas, Iowa State.
Speaker 5: Uh.
Speaker 3: It's not easy, no, no, And we knew that about
Speaker 3: this league. And again, you know, if they lose a
Speaker 3: couple of games in a row or something, people are
Speaker 3: going to lose their minds.
Speaker 2: Guys.
Speaker 3: This is not the PAC twelve. It's not even close
Speaker 3: to the PAC twelve. You know, you look at game
Speaker 3: in and game out. You know, every team that comes
Speaker 3: to Tucson can beat you how many times? How many times?
Speaker 3: Even with the really good teams. When when the Pack twelve,
Speaker 3: I was just there rare times they had really good teams.
Speaker 3: How many times did you walk into Michale thinking they
Speaker 3: could lose tonight?
Speaker 1: No, not very didn't.
Speaker 2: Did you.
Speaker 1: Well, let me tell you this.
Speaker 6: They're ten and one, right Yeah, So this ten and
Speaker 6: one feels different than being ten and one in the
Speaker 6: PAC twelve because you've already gone through a tough, tough schedule,
Speaker 6: You've survived some tough games, and you're looking forward to
Speaker 6: the next nine or whatever it is. In the PAC
Speaker 6: twelve U ten and one, you're thinking, oh, we got
Speaker 6: who UCLA, maybe ore agaon and those are the only
Speaker 6: two games we really have left that are tough. Now
Speaker 6: you still have four or five tough games getting you
Speaker 6: ready for the tournament.
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, I you know, no, I one hundred percent
Speaker 2: agree that.
Speaker 6: It's just we talked about that this this league gets
Speaker 6: them ready.
Speaker 1: For the for the tournament. When does it matter right
Speaker 1: in March?
Speaker 5: You know?
Speaker 3: And that's the thing, you know, if they if they
Speaker 3: come out of this, if they come out of this,
Speaker 3: they're ten and one right now. Okay, let's say they
Speaker 3: got nine games left, fifteen and if they go if
Speaker 3: they go if they go fifteen, If they go fifteen
Speaker 3: and five, that means they've lost four of their last
Speaker 3: nine games, and people are going to lose their minds.
Speaker 2: We suck, We're going in. We've got no shot.
Speaker 1: I guarantee you didn't think fifteen to five.
Speaker 3: Right, would you have signed up for fifteen and five
Speaker 3: before the conference season started?
Speaker 1: Well? Yes, even before the season started. Yeah, you're thinking.
Speaker 6: Remember, I don't know if you were with us, with
Speaker 6: Brian Peterson and those guys, we were talking about all
Speaker 6: that they go maybe win some games, to go fourteen
Speaker 6: and six, it's gonna be a succeed.
Speaker 1: No, this is, this is they're on gravy train right now.
Speaker 2: They are, Howard saying six s.
Speaker 1: Oh, he's having a beer too.
Speaker 2: We need to go get one.
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