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<v Speaker 1>And that's why I never read the comment. I just

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<v Speaker 1>let's get to my beautiful guest. She started as a dancer,

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<v Speaker 1>became a glamour model, shot for Playboy, and somewhere along

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<v Speaker 1>the way a cop paid her to choke her out

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<v Speaker 1>in a champagne room. But we'll get to that. Three

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<v Speaker 1>years in, August Sky has an expos Award, a Popcorn

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<v Speaker 1>Award for an indie web series, and a brand built

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<v Speaker 1>around intimacy and high glamour content. But she's a lot

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<v Speaker 1>more interested in talking about where the industry is going

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<v Speaker 1>than where she's been. Let's welcome the one and only

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<v Speaker 1>August Guy.

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<v Speaker 3>Hello, Hello, Hi, having made of course, it's so nice

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<v Speaker 3>to have you so August and I actually first met

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<v Speaker 3>when I shot her for Twisties in a girl girl.

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<v Speaker 1>Scene with neither of us can remember their name.

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<v Speaker 2>I cannot, and that was like what that was like

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<v Speaker 2>the first year.

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<v Speaker 1>In Yeah, yeah, you were brand new, and I think

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<v Speaker 1>I was about I was on my way out. I

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<v Speaker 1>think that was like one of the last few months

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<v Speaker 1>that I was directing and then I stopped.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, yeah, so yeah, that has been a good time though. Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, So let's talk about your beginnings. You grew up

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<v Speaker 1>in Colorado and came from a creative background art, fashion, performance,

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<v Speaker 1>So how did you end up in adult entertainment?

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<v Speaker 2>For me, it was like always like a curiosity that

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<v Speaker 2>I've had, So I've always been in tune with like

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<v Speaker 2>my sexuality. I know that kind of sounds weird. I've

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<v Speaker 2>always been like explorative with it. So it kind of

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<v Speaker 2>started off as like, you know, modeling, So I did

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<v Speaker 2>like like I did like fashion modeling when I was

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<v Speaker 2>like a lot more like you know, petite, and then

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<v Speaker 2>like you know, you start to get a little older,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, huberty hits, you turn like twenty two, twenty three,

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<v Speaker 2>you can't really change that, and then I just then

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<v Speaker 2>I got a casting call for Playboy, and then it

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<v Speaker 2>just kind of went from there, and then I think

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<v Speaker 2>things just kind of escalated. And then it was like

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<v Speaker 2>right after COVID, I had this hinkering and I was like, oh,

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<v Speaker 2>like I'm just want to I want to try this thing,

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<v Speaker 2>probably like two years after COVID and I was like,

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<v Speaker 2>I've always wanted to try doing adult films because it's

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<v Speaker 2>always like I used to watch it when I was

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<v Speaker 2>like younger, you know, like we all did, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>I Little curiosity and porn and I was like, well,

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<v Speaker 2>these girls look like they're enjoying themselves. They're like they're

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<v Speaker 2>having a good time. And I was like, I'll try

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<v Speaker 2>it at once. And I tell myself, if I try

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<v Speaker 2>it and I don't like it, I'll never do it again. Pasha,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, pretend like it never happened. But then I

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<v Speaker 2>tried it and I loved it, and I stuck around.

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<v Speaker 2>So now three years later, here we are.

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<v Speaker 1>So what was the first scene that you did or

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<v Speaker 1>the first experience that you had that that was such

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<v Speaker 2>So my first scene was with net video girls. I

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<v Speaker 2>don't know if they're still I've.

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<v Speaker 1>Heard of them. They do a lot like new New,

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<v Speaker 1>Like yeah, I think they're still around.

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<v Speaker 2>And they still Okay, my first scene did go viral

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<v Speaker 2>on porn hub, so that was like nice. But I

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<v Speaker 2>think when I was on there, like it was like

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<v Speaker 2>that heart like the heart palpitations. The adrenaline was like running,

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<v Speaker 2>and I was like chatting with the makeup artist and

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<v Speaker 2>she was like, Oh, you're gonna do well. You're gonna

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<v Speaker 2>do fine, and then my scene partner. Everything just like

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<v Speaker 2>went really well, and I just like, I really enjoyed it.

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<v Speaker 2>I enjoyed the process of it. I don't know, I

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<v Speaker 2>enjoyed the cameras. I enjoyed the whole. It was just

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<v Speaker 2>like a good situation. I don't know how to like

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<v Speaker 2>how to explain. I was like, oh, this feels right.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, I don't know. Maybe you went into it like nervous,

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<v Speaker 1>but then like while you were doing it, it kind

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<v Speaker 1>of felt more natural. Whereas you know, some people's first scene,

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<v Speaker 1>even though they may have like quote unquote a good experience,

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<v Speaker 1>they may you know, come out of it being like

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<v Speaker 1>I I am not sure if this is my thing,

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<v Speaker 1>And it sounds like you came out of it feeling

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<v Speaker 1>like it was.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, it was like a guilty pleasure. Like I think

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<v Speaker 2>it was like nervous, but it was more like adrenaline.

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<v Speaker 2>I was like, I'm about to do this, I'm about

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<v Speaker 2>to do this, and it was more of like that

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<v Speaker 2>like back like the voice in the back of my

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<v Speaker 2>head of like your family, your parents, wop are going

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<v Speaker 2>to see this, like what happens, what happens? What happens?

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<v Speaker 2>Like you're selfish for like doing this, but it's like

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<v Speaker 2>you want to do this. I think it was more

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<v Speaker 2>of like my subconscious of like the aftermath more so

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<v Speaker 2>than me actually doing the thing. The stigma, yeah, the

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<v Speaker 2>stigma behind it, right. But then I was like, well,

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<v Speaker 2>I think the feeling was is like I feel guilty

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<v Speaker 2>for actually enjoying myself, like having a positive experience. And

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<v Speaker 2>I know, like not a there's people out there who

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<v Speaker 2>haven't had like a positive experience, but like for me,

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<v Speaker 2>I was like, this is something I want to do

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<v Speaker 2>and I like it and I enjoyed it.

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<v Speaker 1>So how was the aftermath? Like did you get a

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<v Speaker 1>lot of blowback from family? Friends?

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<v Speaker 2>So? Oddly enough? So I thought I was like, I

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<v Speaker 2>was like one of those things was like you always

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<v Speaker 2>think that you can keep it a secret.

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<v Speaker 1>I can't tell you how he does. I heard that, Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>we all.

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<v Speaker 2>Think like, oh my goodness, they'll never know my siblings.

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<v Speaker 2>They were like okay, whatever, fine that we we don't care,

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<v Speaker 2>you know. So I think, like my parents. They my

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<v Speaker 2>dad I think was the first person to find out,

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<v Speaker 2>But like, I think it was more so like it's

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<v Speaker 2>never like the first thing that they want to know

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<v Speaker 2>that their child is doing. So it's not that they're

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<v Speaker 2>like so like super supportive. It's not like they're like, yay,

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<v Speaker 2>go do this thing. I think it was a lot

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<v Speaker 2>of emotions for them to go through, but they came

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<v Speaker 2>out to see me. I'd moved to La they came

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<v Speaker 2>out to see me, and I think like they wanted

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<v Speaker 2>to make sure that I wasn't doing it as like

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<v Speaker 2>a last resort and like I was doing it as

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<v Speaker 2>like a form of something that I wanted to do.

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<v Speaker 2>And then I think what I saw like my life style,

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<v Speaker 2>how is living? That I was happy, and that there's

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<v Speaker 2>so much more around it than the actual scene itself

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<v Speaker 2>or the actual act itself, that they were like, Okay,

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<v Speaker 2>we see, we understand you as our child, and you're

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<v Speaker 2>not just doing this because you know, like you're down bad, right,

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<v Speaker 2>like the stigma that I think that everyone still has

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<v Speaker 2>around it. They're like, oh, you're doing this out of

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<v Speaker 2>pure enjoyment. You're doing well, You're turning this into a business,

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<v Speaker 2>so we accept it. Like do we talk about it,

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<v Speaker 2>Like no, not really, you know what I mean, Like

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<v Speaker 2>it's not like, oh, you know, like how was work today?

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<v Speaker 2>They just like no, you know, I'm working or I'm

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<v Speaker 2>traveling or I'm doing things. But I think that they've

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<v Speaker 2>accepted me as a person and the things that I

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<v Speaker 2>enjoy and like, and they've accepted my lifestyle. Like do

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<v Speaker 2>they completely understand it?

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<v Speaker 1>No?

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<v Speaker 2>Are they trying? Yes, you know, but it's it's always

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<v Speaker 2>a constant like learning learning curve for them. So I'm

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<v Speaker 2>appreciative of that.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah. No, that's great because obviously not every child, Like

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<v Speaker 1>you know, I've talked to people who've been disowned by

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<v Speaker 1>a lot of people whose parents like they come around

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<v Speaker 1>the first thought is always like is she safe? Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>like is she doing this because she wants to? Or

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<v Speaker 1>is she being pressured into it? That's I think every

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I think that was their first concern. And like

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<v Speaker 2>was it like immediately like were they just like yes,

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<v Speaker 2>we like no, it was it was like a process,

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<v Speaker 2>Like we didn't talk for like a while, and it wasn't,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, like they had a They really had a process.

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<v Speaker 2>It It wasn't like, oh they found out and then

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<v Speaker 2>like a day later. It probably took them about a

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<v Speaker 2>year for them to really come back around, right, But

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<v Speaker 2>like I said, my siblings, they were like, okay, girl, whatever,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, we don't care. We figured at some point

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<v Speaker 2>in life you'd be doing something. Yeah, yeah, yeah yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>So you've shot covers for Playboy and Pure Taboo and

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<v Speaker 1>you had a full spread and Hustler. These are very

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<v Speaker 1>different publications with very different audiences. What was it like? Like,

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<v Speaker 1>how was each experience.

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<v Speaker 2>In the beginning, I thought like Playboy was like the

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<v Speaker 2>do all end All, which it still was like it was.

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<v Speaker 2>It was a very enjoyable experience. But Pure Taboo was

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<v Speaker 2>one of the more recent ones that I shot, and

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<v Speaker 2>I liked it because it was so it was kinky,

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<v Speaker 2>and I think I've like changed over time, so I

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<v Speaker 2>think that it was more representative of who I am now,

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<v Speaker 2>you know. I think Playboy is like more of like

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<v Speaker 2>that like girl next Door, you know, kind of like

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<v Speaker 2>sweet she's doing the thing. But I think Pure Taboo

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<v Speaker 2>is kind of like, Okay, she's She's who I thought

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<v Speaker 2>I was gonna become.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, So what like new like kinster sexual opportunities of

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<v Speaker 1>like opened up in your life. I used to shoot

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<v Speaker 1>for pure taboo, so too. Yeah, I don't know.

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<v Speaker 2>It's like a lot of things. So it was things

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<v Speaker 2>that I didn't know that I would enjoy. So there

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<v Speaker 2>was like golden shower play that I did in that

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<v Speaker 2>scene that I was like, oh, like I like that

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<v Speaker 2>a lot of like being dominated are things? Right, Like

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<v Speaker 2>the idea of like being dominated I do because I think, like,

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<v Speaker 2>given being in this industry, like uh, the women are

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<v Speaker 2>more dominant, right, So I like to be more submissive

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<v Speaker 2>in my personal life. It was just nice to play

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<v Speaker 2>that role for like a little bit. You know, I

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<v Speaker 2>think you and I are kind of similar in this way.

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<v Speaker 2>So I'm like, I wasn't obedious and relationship a long

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<v Speaker 1>I'm way more vanilla now. But I always liked being submissive, right.

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<v Speaker 1>And but on the flip side, like in real life,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm like a boss, I have like people working under me.

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<v Speaker 1>I like do a lot of stuff. I'm like often

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<v Speaker 1>And I think it's just like when it comes to sex,

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<v Speaker 1>you just like for once in your life, you don't

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I just want to land tell me what to do.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, you just want to let go. Like there's something

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean you hear this all the time about like

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<v Speaker 1>think that's pretty common.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I think so. I think even too, like you know,

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<v Speaker 2>I still I mean i'd full disclosed like I do

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<v Speaker 2>to think about anything like not I'm not like any

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<v Speaker 2>sort of domain natrix by that standard of some of

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<v Speaker 2>these women. But they want you to just they just

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<v Speaker 2>want to have you do everything right. They want you

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<v Speaker 2>to initiate it, they want you to do the whole thing,

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<v Speaker 2>which I get that. Or they want you to be

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<v Speaker 2>very soft with not maternal with them, but more like

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<v Speaker 2>I don't know, I don't know the word, but they

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<v Speaker 2>want you to like pet them and like coddle them

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<v Speaker 2>and like, yeah, tell them it's gonna be Oh, you're

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<v Speaker 2>so wonderful and so perfect and everything's gonna be okay.

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<v Speaker 2>You like it's okay, set like you know. Yeah, So

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<v Speaker 2>maybe like they want to be submissive in that way, right, Yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>I'm learning that there's different versions of submission.

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<v Speaker 1>There is.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>So Scharidaville is a really good friend of mine, and

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<v Speaker 1>she is like very specific fans who want very specific things,

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<v Speaker 1>and one of them is like tucking them into bed

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<v Speaker 1>at night. There's like a whole like group of guys

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<v Speaker 2>See, that's a very specific thing. I've never I've never

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<v Speaker 2>had that, but hey, I get it. I want Seridavill

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<v Speaker 2>to tuck me in. I know that's fair. I see

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<v Speaker 2>the appeal.

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<v Speaker 1>It's just so interesting working in this industry because I

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<v Speaker 1>think you really get to explore other people's like kings

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<v Speaker 1>and desires and you learn things about people that you

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<v Speaker 1>would never normally have done.

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<v Speaker 2>Right yeah, yeah, well it makes sense. Right. So I

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<v Speaker 2>think a big thing that I do is like the

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<v Speaker 2>girlfriend experience and a lot of guys like they it's

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<v Speaker 2>a very similar thing. I guess, like they want you

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<v Speaker 2>to they want like the cudd of the experience. They

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<v Speaker 2>want to chat with you, they want to like they

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<v Speaker 2>they don't really want anything like explicitly sexual, like they

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<v Speaker 2>wanted to be a very like girlfriend. Ye, let's hang out.

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<v Speaker 2>I want to know what your favorite movie is. How

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<v Speaker 2>is your day like experience?

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah? Yeah, yeah, absolutely?

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah?

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<v Speaker 1>What about do you do customs and if you have

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<v Speaker 1>what's like the most interesting request you've gotten?

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<v Speaker 2>Oh, of course I do customs. Man. They're all so

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<v Speaker 2>like they're all over the spectrum right like, but for

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<v Speaker 2>the most those parts, it's probably one of the craziest

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<v Speaker 2>ones that I've gotten in recent times. I think what

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<v Speaker 2>it is I'm so desensitized to them like sounding crazy,

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<v Speaker 2>so like I'm like, this isn't crazy, this is just

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<v Speaker 2>like normal. The biggest thing is just like the girlfriend thing.

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<v Speaker 2>I think the biggest thing is like, oh, like tell me,

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<v Speaker 2>will you just like come over and tell me like

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<v Speaker 2>how much you like me? Or like you're leaving your

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<v Speaker 2>boyfriend for me, or like how good of like a

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<v Speaker 2>boyfriend that I am? And of course like I get,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, I get some other crazy like can you

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<v Speaker 2>put on a strap on a stroke your dick and

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<v Speaker 2>tell me how much of a little shit I am?

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<v Speaker 2>You know what I mean? Yeah, you get those two right?

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<v Speaker 2>Or I mean, of course I get like the I

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<v Speaker 2>get milk request, and I get everything in between. Like

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<v Speaker 2>I don't really have just like one thing really, I

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<v Speaker 2>mean the girlfriend thing is it's it's not as like

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<v Speaker 2>aggressive as it could be. You know which I'm lucky?

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<v Speaker 2>You know which I'm lucky?

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I think it depends on the demographic that you, yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>are track Yeah, yeah, I mean I've heard like I

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<v Speaker 1>remember I think it was Candleblocks and she was like

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<v Speaker 1>a fetish clips creator, like that was her specialty. And

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<v Speaker 1>the most interesting thing I heard from her was a

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<v Speaker 1>guy paid her to sit on a Duffel bag for

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<v Speaker 1>twenty minutes. Just sit on a black Duffel bag for

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<v Speaker 2>I get guys to ask for things like that. They're like,

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<v Speaker 2>can you just like sit in like these three different poses,

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<v Speaker 2>but like you don't have to say anything or I

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<v Speaker 2>don't know. Sometimes I'm like, where are you guys getting these?

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<v Speaker 2>Because you know, you get sometimes you get like these

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<v Speaker 2>I don't know where you guys are getting the time

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<v Speaker 2>to write some of these requests because it is like

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<v Speaker 2>a script.

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<v Speaker 1>And I'm like, yeah, what, yeah, Like what are you

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<v Speaker 1>guys like a feature film?

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<v Speaker 2>Dude? Yeah, Like they've taken all of like their best

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<v Speaker 2>and then written it. And I'm like, I'm involved in

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<v Speaker 2>the story now, I'm like, where's part two to this?

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<v Speaker 2>Do you know?

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<v Speaker 1>So speaking of interesting experiences, let's talk about the cop

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<v Speaker 1>in the champagne room.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh yes, my favorite, my one of my favorite dancer stories.

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<v Speaker 2>So I was a dancer in this upscale gentlemen's club

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<v Speaker 2>in Denver and it was kind of like a slow

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<v Speaker 2>night and me and my friends who were hanging out

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<v Speaker 2>at the bar, and like this group of guys come

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<v Speaker 2>in and anytime like guys come in and they're like,

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<v Speaker 2>I bet you guys don't know what we do for work,

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<v Speaker 2>and if you did, you probably wouldn't talk to us.

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<v Speaker 2>And we're like, okay, you guys are obviously cops, right,

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<v Speaker 2>like you know what I mean, just like the demeanor,

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<v Speaker 2>it's not like okay whatever. So like long story short,

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<v Speaker 2>they're like they're they're, you know, doing the thing, and

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<v Speaker 2>we've we've we've convinced them to get into a into

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<v Speaker 2>a champagne room. So I think it was like a

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<v Speaker 2>group of like six guys, right, so three of them

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<v Speaker 2>decided they get into a champagne room. So it's like

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<v Speaker 2>three guys, three girls or four girls. It's me and

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<v Speaker 2>my friend Rodeo that were on this one.

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<v Speaker 1>Guy that's an awesome stripper name yeah, that is so good,

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<v Speaker 1>and she is a Rodeo.

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<v Speaker 2>That girl is a riot. But we got this guy

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<v Speaker 2>and he was like, oh man, like the same thing

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<v Speaker 2>he wanted to be dominated. He's, oh man, no one's

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<v Speaker 2>been able to like dominate me like the way I

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<v Speaker 2>wanted to. And she goes, all right, challenge approved, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>challenge accepted, and we're we're hanging out this guy. Mind you,

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<v Speaker 2>she's only about like this big and I'm I'm five

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<v Speaker 2>eight for people who don't know, so I'm not gonna

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<v Speaker 2>tell it. When you have stripper heels on, but I

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<v Speaker 2>have might that's step that adds another seven inches. So

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<v Speaker 2>we're we're we're we're hanging out with this guy. We're

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<v Speaker 2>doing the thing. So she starts like open fisted slapping

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<v Speaker 2>them and he goes like, that's not hard enough. That's

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<v Speaker 2>not hard enough. So I started doing the thing. I

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<v Speaker 2>played volleyball, so I'm like, okay, I can do the thing.

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<v Speaker 2>He's like, no, that's not hard enough. You guys aren't

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<v Speaker 2>doing you guys aren't doing what I want you to do.

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<v Speaker 2>So rodeo. She takes off his belt and she wraps

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<v Speaker 2>it around his neck. But she has experience in this,

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<v Speaker 2>and she wraps it around his neck and she puts

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<v Speaker 2>both of raffeta up against the wall and she slides

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<v Speaker 2>back oho and this guy passes out full sin passes out.

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<v Speaker 2>I was like, girl, his friends like you could hear

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<v Speaker 2>a pin drop in this room. Like I was like,

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<v Speaker 2>oh girl, we are going to prison. I was like,

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<v Speaker 2>we're going to down. I was like, I was like,

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<v Speaker 2>I know, I got a lawyer in my phone or somebody, right,

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<v Speaker 2>Like I hope this outfit is cute enough to be in,

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<v Speaker 2>like mug shoddy. I don't know what's happening here right now.

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<v Speaker 2>But she does that, and then I was like, okay,

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<v Speaker 2>Like all right, okay, go on and play along. I'm gonna

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<v Speaker 2>keep playing the game, right, And then so we started

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<v Speaker 2>she's laughing. I was like, girl, fucking roady. Oh my girl.

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<v Speaker 2>So then we start smacking him. I was like, she's

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<v Speaker 2>laughing to smack him. I'm like smacking him. I'm like

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<v Speaker 2>smacking him Marcas. I'm like, bro, please wake up, please,

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<v Speaker 2>like wake up, wake up. He like wakes up. I

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<v Speaker 2>mean it felt like it was fucking forever, right, because

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<v Speaker 2>you know when you have like that situation going on,

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<v Speaker 2>you're like you think time is fucking forever. But it

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<v Speaker 2>was only like what in a matter of like minutes.

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<v Speaker 2>He wakes up. He looks at both of us in

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<v Speaker 2>the face, he goes, I love you guys, and got

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<v Speaker 2>it really fatip out of it, right, and then yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>I was like okay, and he's like, he's like, will

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<v Speaker 2>you guys like do it again? And I was like,

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<v Speaker 2>I'll do it lightly, but I'm like I'm not doing

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<v Speaker 2>that again. But I don't think you're ready for that.

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<v Speaker 1>Right, Yeah?

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<v Speaker 2>You know.

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<v Speaker 1>I was like, you just passed out, Yeah, and you

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<v Speaker 1>don't want to come to work the next day with

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<v Speaker 1>me around your neck?

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah? So we did. We played around with it again,

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<v Speaker 2>like we're doing it like, he gave us a nice tip.

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<v Speaker 2>He had a good time. I don't think his friends

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<v Speaker 2>were ready for it either, right, Like it's like one

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<v Speaker 2>of those things, like the thing with the guys who

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<v Speaker 2>go into like the strip club with like a group

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<v Speaker 2>of friends or something, or like a bachelor party. It's

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<v Speaker 2>like if you don't know what your friends are into.

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<v Speaker 2>I feel like it's like shocking, right, Like you gotta

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<v Speaker 2>like warn your friends that, like you're into that kind

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<v Speaker 2>of like hardcore play.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, you know, you just can't be doing all that, dude.

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<v Speaker 1>You know that they were all coughs, They're all guaranteed you.

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<v Speaker 1>They might give him so much shit on the beat,

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<v Speaker 1>like all the time, like they've got to make like

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<v Speaker 1>and choking jokes like constantly, like guy will never live

420
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<v Speaker 1>that down.

421
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<v Speaker 2>Yeah. No, I don't think he wants to. I don't

422
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<v Speaker 2>think he wants to write. And I feel like he's

423
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<v Speaker 2>one of those people's like he's always got to be

424
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<v Speaker 2>searching for it.

425
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<v Speaker 1>Yeah you know what I mean.

426
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<v Speaker 2>So I was like, all right, bro, all right, cool, interesting, Yeah,

427
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<v Speaker 2>I got it, love it. That's so good. But it's

428
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<v Speaker 2>a fun time.

429
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<v Speaker 1>Yeah. Okay, So let's talk about this Popcorn Award for

430
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<v Speaker 1>an Independent Web Series. I've actually never heard of it,

431
00:19:25.480 --> 00:19:27.519
<v Speaker 1>but that sounds really cool and I would like to

432
00:19:27.720 --> 00:19:29.440
<v Speaker 1>also win it. I don't know what it is, but

433
00:19:29.480 --> 00:19:31.559
<v Speaker 1>I would I would like to win it. So just

434
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<v Speaker 1>putting that out there, whatever it is, nominate me. So

435
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<v Speaker 1>what was this project and what did winning something for

436
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<v Speaker 1>independent work specifically mean to you?

437
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<v Speaker 2>So this was like before I had gotten into adult

438
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<v Speaker 2>This was like a project that a director hit me

439
00:19:45.200 --> 00:19:47.759
<v Speaker 2>up in twenty twenty, you know, obviously when I think

440
00:19:47.799 --> 00:19:50.400
<v Speaker 2>people were just like doing nothing right but creating. Yeah.

441
00:19:50.519 --> 00:19:53.720
<v Speaker 2>His name was Brian Nesbit, and it was a series

442
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<v Speaker 2>called Born at Night and it was about this. It

443
00:19:56.240 --> 00:19:59.240
<v Speaker 2>was actually about a sex worker, which was ironic enough,

444
00:19:59.240 --> 00:20:02.880
<v Speaker 2>but she would is seeking revenge. It wasn't a spy,

445
00:20:03.160 --> 00:20:05.240
<v Speaker 2>but it was more of like, uh, you know, seeking

446
00:20:05.279 --> 00:20:08.119
<v Speaker 2>revenge because she was sex trafficked and you know, going

447
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<v Speaker 2>through and beating guys down.

448
00:20:10.359 --> 00:20:11.960
<v Speaker 1>Kind of like infiltrating.

449
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<v Speaker 2>Infiltrating, yes, but yeah, exactly. It was about five or

450
00:20:17.599 --> 00:20:20.079
<v Speaker 2>six episodes and age episode was no more than like

451
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<v Speaker 2>ten minutes long. And I was actually surprised because, like

452
00:20:24.160 --> 00:20:25.759
<v Speaker 2>you know, when you sometimes like you do things, you

453
00:20:25.759 --> 00:20:27.319
<v Speaker 2>don't really keep up with it. I was like, oh,

454
00:20:27.359 --> 00:20:30.759
<v Speaker 2>this is like a fun project to work on. During COVID, right,

455
00:20:30.799 --> 00:20:33.680
<v Speaker 2>I was like, I'm not really doing much of anything.

456
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<v Speaker 2>But then he was like, hey, like, I'm going out

457
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<v Speaker 2>to this award show. We've been nominated you've won, which

458
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<v Speaker 2>is basically like a Webby Award. Ye you know, it's

459
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<v Speaker 2>like this. It was, it's a similar thing, but it was.

460
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<v Speaker 2>It was cool because I was like, oh, like, you

461
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<v Speaker 2>actually have h talent, right like you people were actually

462
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<v Speaker 2>responsive to you, right, And I think for me, like

463
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<v Speaker 2>that's that. It was cool because I like, I'm a

464
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<v Speaker 2>creative at heart. So I was like, oh, like that

465
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<v Speaker 2>that was nice to be a to have a nomination

466
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<v Speaker 2>and win the award.

467
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<v Speaker 1>Right, and you were an actress in this, yeah, I.

468
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<v Speaker 2>Was the main actress in it.

469
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<v Speaker 1>Oh my god.

470
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<v Speaker 2>Yeah.

471
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<v Speaker 1>So along those like lines, do you prefer to shoot

472
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<v Speaker 1>Gonzo scenes or features?

473
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<v Speaker 2>Features? I do like to do features. I do like

474
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<v Speaker 2>to shoot Gonzo, but just I like the features. I

475
00:21:20.640 --> 00:21:23.319
<v Speaker 2>think the creative behind it and having to act and

476
00:21:23.359 --> 00:21:24.880
<v Speaker 2>come up with the scenario for me is a little

477
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<v Speaker 2>bit easier than just like the getting straight to it,

478
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<v Speaker 2>like the kind of.

479
00:21:28.960 --> 00:21:31.799
<v Speaker 1>You know, yeah, like you want like a storyline behind it,

480
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<v Speaker 1>like a reason yeah why you're there?

481
00:21:33.920 --> 00:21:36.759
<v Speaker 2>Yeah? Not just like it's fun to go to Poundtown.

482
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<v Speaker 2>Don't get me wrong, but like, I think it's also

483
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<v Speaker 2>like fun so like because I imagine like watching your

484
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<v Speaker 2>favorite movie and then you actually get to like see

485
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<v Speaker 2>this scene, and I think that's what I like. Yeaheah.

486
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<v Speaker 1>So a feature movie is generally an adult movie that

487
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<v Speaker 1>has like acting in it, that has a storyline that

488
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<v Speaker 1>has you know, it's not just sex. A gonzo scene

489
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<v Speaker 1>is generally a scene that is just sex, so like

490
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<v Speaker 1>goes pretty much straight to sex. There's usually no act.

491
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<v Speaker 1>Sometimes it'll be like a solo. Well a lot of

492
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<v Speaker 1>times it'll be like a solo of the girl like

493
00:22:04.079 --> 00:22:06.519
<v Speaker 1>showing her off and she'll be stripping and doing something sexy.

494
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<v Speaker 1>But that's the difference between the two types of scenes. So,

495
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<v Speaker 1>do you have any features that you've done since you've

496
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<v Speaker 1>been in the adult industry that you really like, are

497
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<v Speaker 1>proud of.

498
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<v Speaker 2>So I did a featurette last year that was up

499
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<v Speaker 2>for quite a few awards where it was for Adult

500
00:22:20.240 --> 00:22:24.400
<v Speaker 2>Time and was I got to do the prosthetics of

501
00:22:24.440 --> 00:22:27.160
<v Speaker 2>like being like a black widow spider, which was super cool.

502
00:22:27.599 --> 00:22:29.319
<v Speaker 1>How long were you in makeup and hair for that?

503
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<v Speaker 2>Oh man, that was a long Those were long days. Yeah,

504
00:22:32.279 --> 00:22:34.880
<v Speaker 2>that was first one in literally the last one out. Yeah,

505
00:22:34.920 --> 00:22:37.720
<v Speaker 2>but it was the concept was like this woman whose

506
00:22:37.759 --> 00:22:41.440
<v Speaker 2>like wife, her husband wasn't like giving her any attention.

507
00:22:41.599 --> 00:22:43.640
<v Speaker 2>She gets bit by a spider. She turned into like

508
00:22:43.640 --> 00:22:46.240
<v Speaker 2>a black widow. She like gets these guys into her web,

509
00:22:46.279 --> 00:22:49.200
<v Speaker 2>and then it's like a it's a whole situation at hand.

510
00:22:49.559 --> 00:22:51.599
<v Speaker 2>I've done a I can't think about the name of

511
00:22:51.599 --> 00:22:54.200
<v Speaker 2>the project right now, but I've done some features for

512
00:22:54.480 --> 00:22:59.960
<v Speaker 2>Seth Gamble and Ricky Greenwood. So yeah, I've done quite

513
00:23:00.319 --> 00:23:02.839
<v Speaker 2>but I can't think of their names right off the bat,

514
00:23:03.559 --> 00:23:04.920
<v Speaker 2>you know, but they've all been fun.

515
00:23:05.160 --> 00:23:07.519
<v Speaker 1>They and they both shot so many scenes.

516
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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, exactly, Like you're like trying to think about it.

517
00:23:09.799 --> 00:23:11.160
<v Speaker 2>You're like, oh my goodness, yeah yeah.

518
00:23:11.240 --> 00:23:14.680
<v Speaker 1>Yeah. So deeplatforming is something that you feel very strongly

519
00:23:14.720 --> 00:23:17.880
<v Speaker 1>about and it's a huge problem for our industry. How

520
00:23:17.920 --> 00:23:21.000
<v Speaker 1>has it affected you personally and how do you manage

521
00:23:21.039 --> 00:23:23.279
<v Speaker 1>protecting yourself against it if at all?

522
00:23:23.519 --> 00:23:25.440
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, So, like, as we know right now, I think

523
00:23:25.440 --> 00:23:29.039
<v Speaker 2>that we are in the like the mass deplatforming of creators.

524
00:23:29.079 --> 00:23:31.559
<v Speaker 2>I think there's so many people who are trying to

525
00:23:31.599 --> 00:23:34.319
<v Speaker 2>advocate it for it, and I think Instagram even like released

526
00:23:34.359 --> 00:23:40.079
<v Speaker 2>a statement today saying that they are tackling actual sex

527
00:23:40.119 --> 00:23:43.200
<v Speaker 2>workers and they are deleting their accounts on purpose. For

528
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<v Speaker 2>me personally, just like everybody, I'm on my eighth Instagram

529
00:23:47.200 --> 00:23:49.960
<v Speaker 2>accountant and that's even before being like an adult performer.

530
00:23:50.039 --> 00:23:53.759
<v Speaker 2>But you know, we spend money to get our accounts back.

531
00:23:53.839 --> 00:23:57.079
<v Speaker 2>We spend money to keep our accounts afloat. You try

532
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<v Speaker 2>to do everything that you possibly can, but you know,

533
00:24:00.559 --> 00:24:03.799
<v Speaker 2>it is a full send attack on performers or sex

534
00:24:03.839 --> 00:24:06.680
<v Speaker 2>workers or whatever the case may be, because it does suck, right,

535
00:24:06.680 --> 00:24:08.680
<v Speaker 2>because it's your brand, and that's how we make most

536
00:24:08.680 --> 00:24:09.279
<v Speaker 2>of our money.

537
00:24:09.359 --> 00:24:13.119
<v Speaker 1>Yeah right, Unfortunately, like that's really the only way that

538
00:24:13.160 --> 00:24:16.119
<v Speaker 1>we can promote ourselves. Yeah, that's where the traffic is.

539
00:24:16.200 --> 00:24:19.160
<v Speaker 1>So it's not like we have somewhere else to go,

540
00:24:19.240 --> 00:24:21.359
<v Speaker 1>and it's just like the same old trying to push.

541
00:24:21.640 --> 00:24:24.480
<v Speaker 1>But yeah, people in the industry underground, and you know,

542
00:24:24.559 --> 00:24:28.039
<v Speaker 1>everyone does their best to follow the rules and they're

543
00:24:28.079 --> 00:24:29.720
<v Speaker 1>so opaque about things.

544
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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, they well they're always constantly changing the rules. And

545
00:24:32.680 --> 00:24:35.359
<v Speaker 2>now they have AI and different systems like that that

546
00:24:35.440 --> 00:24:41.240
<v Speaker 2>are running through the system. But it's not like back

547
00:24:41.279 --> 00:24:42.640
<v Speaker 2>in the day, right where it's like you know, you

548
00:24:42.640 --> 00:24:44.839
<v Speaker 2>can just do like box covers and all these things

549
00:24:44.920 --> 00:24:47.559
<v Speaker 2>and stay relevant. Now you have like social media, but

550
00:24:47.599 --> 00:24:49.599
<v Speaker 2>people don't tell you about adult work as social media

551
00:24:49.720 --> 00:24:53.720
<v Speaker 2>is like eighty percent of your job now. But as

552
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<v Speaker 2>far as like protecting myself, So I've worked with my

553
00:24:57.279 --> 00:25:01.359
<v Speaker 2>with my team, and they've came up with like a

554
00:25:01.440 --> 00:25:04.440
<v Speaker 2>very rare technology now where it is an auto poster

555
00:25:04.519 --> 00:25:08.920
<v Speaker 2>where they it puts your content into the autoposter now

556
00:25:09.039 --> 00:25:11.640
<v Speaker 2>and it tells you if it's safe to put on

557
00:25:12.000 --> 00:25:16.200
<v Speaker 2>your platform or not. And it also runs it because

558
00:25:16.880 --> 00:25:21.119
<v Speaker 2>Instagram is always changing their rules and that's the opeckness

559
00:25:21.119 --> 00:25:24.200
<v Speaker 2>of it, because if you don't know, it's always changing, right,

560
00:25:24.240 --> 00:25:28.079
<v Speaker 2>and that gives them reason to deplatform you. But because

561
00:25:28.119 --> 00:25:30.440
<v Speaker 2>of the autoposter and because of their AI system, they'll

562
00:25:30.480 --> 00:25:33.559
<v Speaker 2>tell you and it also warn you if your account

563
00:25:33.599 --> 00:25:35.240
<v Speaker 2>is about to be banned and the reason as to

564
00:25:35.319 --> 00:25:38.559
<v Speaker 2>why it's about to be banned. I've been working with them,

565
00:25:38.640 --> 00:25:41.279
<v Speaker 2>collaborating with them and using them because I have my

566
00:25:41.319 --> 00:25:43.200
<v Speaker 2>account taking down maybe like two weeks ago, and like

567
00:25:43.200 --> 00:25:44.640
<v Speaker 2>all these people texted me. They're like I was in

568
00:25:44.720 --> 00:25:46.880
<v Speaker 2>Chicago and they're like, hey, you know your account got

569
00:25:46.920 --> 00:25:49.359
<v Speaker 2>taken down. I was like, yes, and I happen to

570
00:25:49.400 --> 00:25:52.559
<v Speaker 2>be with my manager at the time, Steven, who is

571
00:25:52.599 --> 00:25:55.240
<v Speaker 2>the person who created this poster or this auto poster.

572
00:25:55.799 --> 00:25:58.279
<v Speaker 2>I got my account back in twelve minutes because it

573
00:25:58.319 --> 00:26:00.359
<v Speaker 2>was one of those things to where everything was come client,

574
00:26:00.519 --> 00:26:02.680
<v Speaker 2>so my page was compliant, so they had no reason

575
00:26:02.720 --> 00:26:04.440
<v Speaker 2>for me to take it down. So it's like Instagram

576
00:26:04.440 --> 00:26:07.839
<v Speaker 2>couldn't fight it. They couldn't just have my platform taken

577
00:26:07.920 --> 00:26:12.759
<v Speaker 2>from me because they don't tell you things like, oh, well, hey,

578
00:26:12.839 --> 00:26:15.799
<v Speaker 2>you you reason why your platform got taken down is

579
00:26:15.799 --> 00:26:19.079
<v Speaker 2>because you have AVN tagged in like your bio right,

580
00:26:19.160 --> 00:26:22.079
<v Speaker 2>Avn's page might not be compliant. You don't know that,

581
00:26:22.119 --> 00:26:24.400
<v Speaker 2>so now your page gets taken down. So they make

582
00:26:24.440 --> 00:26:29.160
<v Speaker 2>it so snakeish. But now having this technology for us

583
00:26:29.400 --> 00:26:32.200
<v Speaker 2>made for us, it's like a nice safety net so

584
00:26:32.240 --> 00:26:34.640
<v Speaker 2>we don't have to always lose it and always have

585
00:26:34.680 --> 00:26:37.559
<v Speaker 2>to pay thousands and thousands and thousands of dollars to

586
00:26:37.640 --> 00:26:40.480
<v Speaker 2>get these accounts back, because it gets ridiculous and it

587
00:26:40.480 --> 00:26:43.039
<v Speaker 2>gets harder and harder the bigger your numbers get. Right,

588
00:26:43.119 --> 00:26:45.519
<v Speaker 2>I've had friends with like one point five million followers

589
00:26:45.559 --> 00:26:48.119
<v Speaker 2>and they get their account ban and the guys like, oh,

590
00:26:48.160 --> 00:26:50.119
<v Speaker 2>I need twenty bands to get this back, and it's like,

591
00:26:50.240 --> 00:26:52.400
<v Speaker 2>is it really I'm not just going to come off

592
00:26:52.400 --> 00:26:54.279
<v Speaker 2>a twenty thousand, But I think it's nice to have

593
00:26:54.359 --> 00:26:56.640
<v Speaker 2>a to be ahead of the game, right because they're

594
00:26:56.680 --> 00:27:00.720
<v Speaker 2>already getting pushed out between verification and already being an

595
00:27:00.720 --> 00:27:03.440
<v Speaker 2>adult performer. They don't really want us on their platform.

596
00:27:03.519 --> 00:27:07.119
<v Speaker 2>So I think it's better to be protected before instead

597
00:27:07.160 --> 00:27:07.640
<v Speaker 2>of you know.

598
00:27:07.960 --> 00:27:10.039
<v Speaker 1>Just existing is like against the terms of service.

599
00:27:10.160 --> 00:27:12.559
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, existing is against the terms of service, but like

600
00:27:12.640 --> 00:27:14.799
<v Speaker 2>if they have if you have the right tools to

601
00:27:14.839 --> 00:27:18.519
<v Speaker 2>protect yourself, then I think it goes a long way.

602
00:27:18.720 --> 00:27:22.440
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, we've been looking into something similar as well, like

603
00:27:22.519 --> 00:27:26.799
<v Speaker 1>for my marketing agency. But yeah, it's just the frustrating

604
00:27:26.839 --> 00:27:29.680
<v Speaker 1>thing is it's like I don't understand why, like just

605
00:27:29.759 --> 00:27:32.960
<v Speaker 1>tell just tell us, like give us these new rules,

606
00:27:33.039 --> 00:27:36.920
<v Speaker 1>give us something like that, some sort of filtering system,

607
00:27:36.960 --> 00:27:40.319
<v Speaker 1>because like people don't want to violate the rules. I mean, look,

608
00:27:40.359 --> 00:27:43.759
<v Speaker 1>some people will push some lemen, yeah whatever, okay, fine,

609
00:27:43.759 --> 00:27:45.559
<v Speaker 1>But like for those of us who really are trying

610
00:27:45.559 --> 00:27:49.559
<v Speaker 1>to stay in within compliant, within the community guidelines, we're

611
00:27:49.599 --> 00:27:51.559
<v Speaker 1>just trying to make a living for a job. Which,

612
00:27:51.599 --> 00:27:52.920
<v Speaker 1>by the way, I don't know why I have to

613
00:27:52.920 --> 00:27:56.920
<v Speaker 1>like constantly remind people, but it's legal. It's legal, we're

614
00:27:56.960 --> 00:28:00.200
<v Speaker 1>not running guns, yeah or something like that.

615
00:28:00.599 --> 00:28:03.640
<v Speaker 2>You know. It's just like it's just crazy. Yeah yeah, and.

616
00:28:05.400 --> 00:28:08.640
<v Speaker 1>You know, just make it so that we know what's

617
00:28:08.680 --> 00:28:10.839
<v Speaker 1>going on so we can yeah the rules.

618
00:28:10.960 --> 00:28:12.880
<v Speaker 2>I think their thing is is like they like, oh,

619
00:28:12.960 --> 00:28:14.400
<v Speaker 2>like we do make it, but you just don't read

620
00:28:14.440 --> 00:28:16.680
<v Speaker 2>the terms in service, Like, well who reads the terms

621
00:28:16.720 --> 00:28:17.279
<v Speaker 2>in service?

622
00:28:17.359 --> 00:28:21.119
<v Speaker 1>But it's also so vague and a lot of it

623
00:28:21.200 --> 00:28:22.839
<v Speaker 1>is you know, based on like.

624
00:28:23.000 --> 00:28:26.000
<v Speaker 2>Legal jargon or terminology that a lot of people don't

625
00:28:26.559 --> 00:28:28.160
<v Speaker 2>or just like opinion.

626
00:28:28.640 --> 00:28:31.359
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, pretty much. It's like the whole like obscenity cases, right,

627
00:28:31.519 --> 00:28:34.680
<v Speaker 1>like what is obscene to you? You know, definition of

628
00:28:34.720 --> 00:28:39.440
<v Speaker 1>obscenity is vague. It's like it violates local community standards.

629
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<v Speaker 1>I think is like one of the rules. Well what

630
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<v Speaker 1>the fuck? What what is like? And that's just so

631
00:28:45.599 --> 00:28:48.319
<v Speaker 1>that's just like regional, right is that? Like what are

632
00:28:48.359 --> 00:28:53.960
<v Speaker 1>the community standards? Like doesn't appeal to like apparent interest

633
00:28:54.640 --> 00:28:59.279
<v Speaker 1>and you know, isn't like educational artistic well, like what's educational?

634
00:28:59.319 --> 00:29:04.440
<v Speaker 1>What's artists different? Like this podcast? Is it educational because

635
00:29:04.480 --> 00:29:06.519
<v Speaker 1>they educate people in the adult industry like what goes

636
00:29:06.559 --> 00:29:09.599
<v Speaker 1>on behind Like, but you know, there's been plenty of

637
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<v Speaker 1>times that I've been knocked. You know, you could say

638
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<v Speaker 1>this whole thing is educational.

639
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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, it is how you ask Yeah yeah, for me,

640
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<v Speaker 2>I think it's always like one of those things too.

641
00:29:19.640 --> 00:29:21.480
<v Speaker 2>It's like, well, if you don't want to if you

642
00:29:21.480 --> 00:29:23.920
<v Speaker 2>don't want to see, your algorithm is based upon what

643
00:29:24.039 --> 00:29:26.440
<v Speaker 2>you look at, right, So if you ended up on

644
00:29:26.480 --> 00:29:29.319
<v Speaker 2>that side of the algorithm, then it isn't that kind

645
00:29:29.319 --> 00:29:31.279
<v Speaker 2>of like based upon what you Oh yeah, you know

646
00:29:31.319 --> 00:29:31.920
<v Speaker 2>what I mean.

647
00:29:32.000 --> 00:29:33.960
<v Speaker 1>Like how did I get here? I'm like, I don't

648
00:29:33.960 --> 00:29:34.640
<v Speaker 1>know how you got here?

649
00:29:34.720 --> 00:29:37.039
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, you know how you got here? Right? Or it's

650
00:29:37.039 --> 00:29:39.319
<v Speaker 2>just like the same thing. But you know, it's like

651
00:29:39.359 --> 00:29:41.440
<v Speaker 2>putting a childlock on, right, Like my parents put the

652
00:29:41.519 --> 00:29:44.920
<v Speaker 2>childlock on the television. Yeah, so you know, like, but

653
00:29:45.039 --> 00:29:45.680
<v Speaker 2>you know whatever.

654
00:29:45.839 --> 00:29:49.599
<v Speaker 1>So the infrastructure that adult creators depend on, payment processors, banks,

655
00:29:49.640 --> 00:29:53.119
<v Speaker 1>social media platforms, as we were just saying, is constantly

656
00:29:53.160 --> 00:29:56.599
<v Speaker 1>working against us. So how do you build a sustainable

657
00:29:56.640 --> 00:29:58.599
<v Speaker 1>career when the ground keeps shifting? Like how do you

658
00:29:58.640 --> 00:29:59.599
<v Speaker 1>stay one step ahead?

659
00:30:00.000 --> 00:30:03.160
<v Speaker 2>Honestly, I just have to thank my team for that.

660
00:30:03.240 --> 00:30:06.599
<v Speaker 2>I can't even fully stay on Like I can't say

661
00:30:06.640 --> 00:30:08.440
<v Speaker 2>that it's me. I just have to thank my team

662
00:30:08.480 --> 00:30:11.039
<v Speaker 2>for that because they're constantly doing like the research and

663
00:30:12.480 --> 00:30:14.400
<v Speaker 2>telling me what I need to stay on top of

664
00:30:14.680 --> 00:30:19.759
<v Speaker 2>and giving me the guidelines. Because we all have a

665
00:30:19.799 --> 00:30:22.240
<v Speaker 2>thousand things to do, right, I can't like be on set,

666
00:30:22.319 --> 00:30:25.599
<v Speaker 2>create content, create social media, do the shoot, show up,

667
00:30:25.640 --> 00:30:30.200
<v Speaker 2>do all this stuff right. So that's for me personally.

668
00:30:30.240 --> 00:30:32.640
<v Speaker 2>That's what it is is having like a strong team

669
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<v Speaker 2>and being lucky enough to have that. Yeah, And if

670
00:30:37.440 --> 00:30:40.759
<v Speaker 2>you don't have that, then just really try and do

671
00:30:40.799 --> 00:30:44.000
<v Speaker 2>your research as much as possible and try to listen

672
00:30:44.039 --> 00:30:47.519
<v Speaker 2>to some of the girls who are like yelling about it, right.

673
00:30:48.079 --> 00:30:50.359
<v Speaker 2>You know, there's a lot of performers who are trying

674
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<v Speaker 2>to advocate for it, who try to be a couple

675
00:30:54.039 --> 00:30:56.039
<v Speaker 2>of steps ahead. So if you are by yourself and

676
00:30:56.079 --> 00:30:58.200
<v Speaker 2>you don't have a team, then try and like look

677
00:30:58.240 --> 00:31:01.160
<v Speaker 2>out for that, right the girls who the girls and

678
00:31:01.240 --> 00:31:03.640
<v Speaker 2>guys who are trying to make it easier for you

679
00:31:03.720 --> 00:31:06.279
<v Speaker 2>to digest. But yeah, like I said, I just I'm

680
00:31:06.359 --> 00:31:07.400
<v Speaker 2>lucky to have a good team.

681
00:31:07.559 --> 00:31:12.759
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, there's telegram groups that you can join. There's Reddit threads. Yeah,

682
00:31:12.839 --> 00:31:14.559
<v Speaker 1>there's a couple of different places that you can try

683
00:31:14.599 --> 00:31:17.640
<v Speaker 1>to But I just feel like everyone's always guessed thing.

684
00:31:17.839 --> 00:31:18.680
<v Speaker 1>We're all discussing.

685
00:31:18.799 --> 00:31:22.559
<v Speaker 2>It's a guessing game, and it's always changing. It's always changing.

686
00:31:23.000 --> 00:31:24.759
<v Speaker 1>So where do you think the industry is actually headed

687
00:31:24.799 --> 00:31:26.240
<v Speaker 1>in the next five years. Do you think it's getting

688
00:31:26.279 --> 00:31:28.279
<v Speaker 1>better or do you think the walls are closing in?

689
00:31:28.480 --> 00:31:32.319
<v Speaker 2>That's like a good question. So I feel like I

690
00:31:32.440 --> 00:31:35.599
<v Speaker 2>got in in like late twenty two.

691
00:31:35.720 --> 00:31:35.880
<v Speaker 1>So.

692
00:31:37.400 --> 00:31:40.359
<v Speaker 2>I feel like it was like content Creator that was

693
00:31:40.359 --> 00:31:44.759
<v Speaker 2>like the only fans era. Everyone says like the death

694
00:31:44.759 --> 00:31:47.519
<v Speaker 2>of the porn star like doesn't exist. I don't know.

695
00:31:47.680 --> 00:31:51.920
<v Speaker 2>I think that if we For me personally, I don't

696
00:31:51.920 --> 00:31:53.599
<v Speaker 2>think you can really kill a porn star, to be

697
00:31:53.640 --> 00:31:57.640
<v Speaker 2>honest with you, or the porn industry, I think that.

698
00:31:58.759 --> 00:32:00.920
<v Speaker 2>I don't know. I think it's it's gonna come full circle,

699
00:32:01.400 --> 00:32:03.720
<v Speaker 2>right Like, I think everything's just gonna come back full

700
00:32:03.720 --> 00:32:05.920
<v Speaker 2>sain They're gonna try and make it difficult. I would

701
00:32:05.920 --> 00:32:08.119
<v Speaker 2>love the day for like porn stars to like really

702
00:32:08.119 --> 00:32:09.759
<v Speaker 2>come back and like you know, you're doing the box

703
00:32:09.839 --> 00:32:12.200
<v Speaker 2>covers and the DVDs, like the whole thing. I wanted

704
00:32:12.200 --> 00:32:15.039
<v Speaker 2>to be when I got into the industry. I wish

705
00:32:15.079 --> 00:32:17.119
<v Speaker 2>I could say, but I don't know. I thought I

706
00:32:17.160 --> 00:32:18.920
<v Speaker 2>could say, but I don't know. I mean, you've been

707
00:32:18.920 --> 00:32:22.359
<v Speaker 2>in it for longer, and you've you've seen this probably happen.

708
00:32:22.799 --> 00:32:24.839
<v Speaker 1>Well, I feel like if I could predict it, I'd

709
00:32:24.839 --> 00:32:29.119
<v Speaker 1>probably be a lot richer than I am. But yeah,

710
00:32:29.160 --> 00:32:31.480
<v Speaker 1>I mean, you know, I thought that we were moving

711
00:32:31.519 --> 00:32:34.359
<v Speaker 1>forward and we were, you know, starting to become more

712
00:32:34.440 --> 00:32:37.079
<v Speaker 1>sexually acceptable, and I feel like we've taken quite a

713
00:32:37.079 --> 00:32:39.880
<v Speaker 1>few steps backwards in the lost honest Trump and President

714
00:32:40.640 --> 00:32:40.880
<v Speaker 1>You're not.

715
00:32:41.400 --> 00:32:43.720
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, it's been it's been like a rough time, right,

716
00:32:43.759 --> 00:32:45.759
<v Speaker 2>But then I know there's other countries that are starting

717
00:32:45.759 --> 00:32:49.319
<v Speaker 2>to put heavy bands and yeah, you know. So I

718
00:32:49.599 --> 00:32:50.039
<v Speaker 2>don't know.

719
00:32:50.599 --> 00:32:54.400
<v Speaker 1>How has this work changed your personal relationship with your

720
00:32:54.400 --> 00:32:55.279
<v Speaker 1>own sexuality.

721
00:32:55.720 --> 00:32:59.000
<v Speaker 2>My private sex life is definitely different than like my

722
00:32:59.079 --> 00:33:02.799
<v Speaker 2>work sex life. I think work sex life is always fun,

723
00:33:02.880 --> 00:33:06.279
<v Speaker 2>but it's also work, so it's not as like fluid

724
00:33:06.319 --> 00:33:10.160
<v Speaker 2>as my private sex life. But it's just added like

725
00:33:10.200 --> 00:33:12.680
<v Speaker 2>a layer of like openness and like a layer of like,

726
00:33:12.680 --> 00:33:14.839
<v Speaker 2>oh I want to try that. I want to try that,

727
00:33:14.920 --> 00:33:16.480
<v Speaker 2>and if I don't like it, then I don't have

728
00:33:16.519 --> 00:33:17.519
<v Speaker 2>to do it again, right.

729
00:33:17.680 --> 00:33:20.599
<v Speaker 1>So yeah, I've had a lot of performers say that

730
00:33:20.759 --> 00:33:24.359
<v Speaker 1>they feel like porn is a good place to safely

731
00:33:24.440 --> 00:33:30.160
<v Speaker 1>explore kinks fantasies that they might feel nervous about trying

732
00:33:30.200 --> 00:33:31.799
<v Speaker 1>to do on their own because it's like in a

733
00:33:31.839 --> 00:33:35.079
<v Speaker 1>controlled environment and they feel like they could explore these

734
00:33:35.119 --> 00:33:37.839
<v Speaker 1>things in a safe way, surrounded by people who are

735
00:33:37.839 --> 00:33:40.359
<v Speaker 1>looking out for their safety. I mean, you know, like

736
00:33:40.519 --> 00:33:42.359
<v Speaker 1>try to organize your own gang bang.

737
00:33:43.400 --> 00:33:46.400
<v Speaker 2>Good luck? Oh yeah, try to order your own gang bang,

738
00:33:46.440 --> 00:33:49.400
<v Speaker 2>your own orgy, right, like, because it's like if you're

739
00:33:49.440 --> 00:33:51.599
<v Speaker 2>a girl and try and organize an orgy, it's like

740
00:33:51.640 --> 00:33:55.839
<v Speaker 2>you can get every man to show up. Yeah, if

741
00:33:55.880 --> 00:34:01.400
<v Speaker 2>you want a nice, balanced out orgy, good luck, good luck.

742
00:34:01.720 --> 00:34:03.720
<v Speaker 1>And also like every guy that shows up, like are

743
00:34:03.759 --> 00:34:06.880
<v Speaker 1>they safe? Are they tested? Like all that kind of stuff. Yeah,

744
00:34:06.920 --> 00:34:09.519
<v Speaker 1>that's always like number one too. It's like I yeah,

745
00:34:09.559 --> 00:34:10.840
<v Speaker 1>and it's like is it worth it?

746
00:34:11.519 --> 00:34:11.760
<v Speaker 3>Yeah?

747
00:34:11.760 --> 00:34:14.480
<v Speaker 1>You know what does the public consistently get wrong about

748
00:34:14.519 --> 00:34:16.559
<v Speaker 1>the sex lives of people who work an adult.

749
00:34:16.639 --> 00:34:21.320
<v Speaker 2>Is that a that we are easy and promiscuous and

750
00:34:21.360 --> 00:34:23.639
<v Speaker 2>that we The one thing that I get a lot

751
00:34:23.800 --> 00:34:26.320
<v Speaker 2>that people complain about is that like, we choose our

752
00:34:26.360 --> 00:34:29.800
<v Speaker 2>scene partners. I don't choose my scene partners. That's like

753
00:34:29.840 --> 00:34:32.199
<v Speaker 2>one complaint that I get at least like every week.

754
00:34:32.840 --> 00:34:35.199
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, oh they don't like who you worked with. Yeah,

755
00:34:35.239 --> 00:34:36.800
<v Speaker 1>and they don't like it any time.

756
00:34:36.960 --> 00:34:38.760
<v Speaker 2>This is like a movie, right, I don't get you

757
00:34:38.800 --> 00:34:40.519
<v Speaker 2>can't just walk in and say I want to play

758
00:34:40.519 --> 00:34:42.760
<v Speaker 2>this role. I make fantasies, not reality.

759
00:34:42.960 --> 00:34:44.679
<v Speaker 1>But you have a no list And can you explain

760
00:34:44.679 --> 00:34:46.679
<v Speaker 1>what a know list is to people who may not understand?

761
00:34:47.159 --> 00:34:49.920
<v Speaker 2>No list is like for people like you don't particularly

762
00:34:50.079 --> 00:34:52.840
<v Speaker 2>want to work with right, and it's not. It could

763
00:34:52.880 --> 00:34:56.360
<v Speaker 2>be for a multitude of reasons. It could be that,

764
00:34:56.519 --> 00:34:59.320
<v Speaker 2>like you worked with them once and it just didn't

765
00:34:59.400 --> 00:35:05.519
<v Speaker 2>go well. Maybe you've heard complaints about other girls online

766
00:35:05.639 --> 00:35:08.239
<v Speaker 2>who are maybe friends or somebody that are like hey,

767
00:35:08.320 --> 00:35:11.880
<v Speaker 2>like watch out, like this performer might be this, that

768
00:35:11.960 --> 00:35:16.679
<v Speaker 2>and the other, or you just don't like what they

769
00:35:16.719 --> 00:35:18.800
<v Speaker 2>got going on. Maybe like, oh, well I don't like

770
00:35:18.840 --> 00:35:21.519
<v Speaker 2>their brand, I don't like something about this just won't

771
00:35:21.599 --> 00:35:25.360
<v Speaker 2>work right. Personalities might not work well together, so you

772
00:35:25.360 --> 00:35:28.800
<v Speaker 2>know this scene's not gonna be good. Or maybe like

773
00:35:28.840 --> 00:35:32.039
<v Speaker 2>there are really aggressive and you're like, I don't really

774
00:35:32.360 --> 00:35:34.679
<v Speaker 2>do that, right, So I think like a no list

775
00:35:34.719 --> 00:35:37.920
<v Speaker 2>is someone that you just know that you're not gonna

776
00:35:37.960 --> 00:35:40.559
<v Speaker 2>work well with, or you've worked with them once and

777
00:35:40.599 --> 00:35:43.800
<v Speaker 2>you're like, nah, I don't want to do that, And

778
00:35:43.920 --> 00:35:45.719
<v Speaker 2>I do have a no list. Yes, is it a

779
00:35:45.840 --> 00:35:48.960
<v Speaker 2>very long no list? No, it's a very short no list,

780
00:35:50.199 --> 00:35:53.159
<v Speaker 2>But I do have one. So that's probably as far

781
00:35:53.199 --> 00:35:57.360
<v Speaker 2>as it goes. It's you know, in surprise, surprise guys.

782
00:35:57.400 --> 00:36:01.480
<v Speaker 2>Sometimes performers are on a no list because their dick

783
00:36:01.599 --> 00:36:05.760
<v Speaker 2>is too big, has nothing else to do with anything else,

784
00:36:06.000 --> 00:36:09.199
<v Speaker 2>but the fact that the girl feels like she would

785
00:36:09.280 --> 00:36:12.199
<v Speaker 2>not be able to perform with that guy. It would

786
00:36:12.199 --> 00:36:15.039
<v Speaker 2>be painful and it would not be a good scene.

787
00:36:15.039 --> 00:36:17.360
<v Speaker 2>And that is literally the only reason why. And it's

788
00:36:17.360 --> 00:36:18.639
<v Speaker 2>nothing personal whatsoever.

789
00:36:19.000 --> 00:36:22.440
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, as a director, you usually ask one thing you

790
00:36:22.480 --> 00:36:25.519
<v Speaker 1>always ask is what is you know in your booking talent?

791
00:36:25.599 --> 00:36:27.320
<v Speaker 1>What is their no list? So you make sure that

792
00:36:27.320 --> 00:36:29.239
<v Speaker 1>you don't book somebody that they don't want to work with.

793
00:36:29.360 --> 00:36:32.159
<v Speaker 1>I like to ask people about their yes list, like

794
00:36:32.239 --> 00:36:35.719
<v Speaker 1>who they like working with? Do you have any particular favorites?

795
00:36:36.000 --> 00:36:38.800
<v Speaker 1>I think pretty much everyone that like is not on

796
00:36:38.840 --> 00:36:39.320
<v Speaker 1>the no list?

797
00:36:39.559 --> 00:36:44.159
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, pretty much. Yeah, like there's my yes list is

798
00:36:44.159 --> 00:36:48.000
<v Speaker 2>always like Charles Darra is always a yes, Charles, like

799
00:36:48.079 --> 00:36:50.760
<v Speaker 2>all the like most of the guys are always like yes.

800
00:36:51.440 --> 00:36:55.199
<v Speaker 1>You know, if you could go back and tell yourself

801
00:36:55.280 --> 00:36:57.679
<v Speaker 1>something that you know now that you didn't know getting

802
00:36:57.719 --> 00:37:00.519
<v Speaker 1>into the industry, what would it be, Like a piece

803
00:37:00.519 --> 00:37:02.519
<v Speaker 1>of advice you could give your younger self.

804
00:37:02.960 --> 00:37:07.199
<v Speaker 2>Just shooting the scenes isn't what's going to catapult your career.

805
00:37:07.400 --> 00:37:11.639
<v Speaker 2>It's everything else outside of the scenes that catapults your career.

806
00:37:11.840 --> 00:37:14.440
<v Speaker 2>And I wish I would have focused on that a

807
00:37:14.440 --> 00:37:18.280
<v Speaker 2>lot sooner, but you know, you get there.

808
00:37:19.039 --> 00:37:22.559
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, so understanding that, like being an adult film star

809
00:37:22.639 --> 00:37:25.679
<v Speaker 1>is so much more than just showing up and having sex. Yeah,

810
00:37:25.679 --> 00:37:27.079
<v Speaker 1>that's what I think a lot of people don't get.

811
00:37:27.079 --> 00:37:28.440
<v Speaker 1>They're like, oh, you have such an easy job. You

812
00:37:28.440 --> 00:37:30.039
<v Speaker 1>just show up, you obtection, you go home, and it's

813
00:37:30.079 --> 00:37:35.559
<v Speaker 1>like such a massive amount of time from your day

814
00:37:35.880 --> 00:37:38.280
<v Speaker 1>is now the marketing.

815
00:37:38.679 --> 00:37:43.480
<v Speaker 2>It is a lot of the marketing and staying afloat,

816
00:37:43.599 --> 00:37:49.320
<v Speaker 2>staying relevant, building your brand, Like there's cause there are Yeah,

817
00:37:49.360 --> 00:37:50.760
<v Speaker 2>you are on set, You're on set. You can be

818
00:37:50.840 --> 00:37:52.760
<v Speaker 2>on set for four hours, you can be on stt

819
00:37:52.800 --> 00:37:54.760
<v Speaker 2>I've been on set for twenty hours, right, like you

820
00:37:54.800 --> 00:37:56.840
<v Speaker 2>don't know? And it is building your brand and staying

821
00:37:56.880 --> 00:37:59.960
<v Speaker 2>relevant because there are millions and millions of beautiful girl

822
00:38:00.039 --> 00:38:03.599
<v Speaker 2>roles coming in every day or be around the world

823
00:38:03.639 --> 00:38:06.599
<v Speaker 2>every day. Right, there's hundreds of beautiful girls coming into

824
00:38:06.599 --> 00:38:09.519
<v Speaker 2>the industry every day, right do they often last know?

825
00:38:11.199 --> 00:38:13.639
<v Speaker 2>But it is good to have staying power, and it's

826
00:38:13.639 --> 00:38:15.840
<v Speaker 2>good to build your brand, and it's good to say, okay, well,

827
00:38:16.199 --> 00:38:18.119
<v Speaker 2>the next best thing is always trying to come in,

828
00:38:18.280 --> 00:38:19.800
<v Speaker 2>so how do you You know? You got to keep

829
00:38:19.800 --> 00:38:22.599
<v Speaker 2>yourself relevant and you can't always compare yourself to everybody

830
00:38:22.599 --> 00:38:25.199
<v Speaker 2>that's always coming in. So it is always good to

831
00:38:25.239 --> 00:38:29.800
<v Speaker 2>build your brand, and the shoots aren't always going to

832
00:38:29.880 --> 00:38:32.440
<v Speaker 2>do that for you. The shoot gets you a nice,

833
00:38:32.920 --> 00:38:36.119
<v Speaker 2>comfortable name for yourself and you can build you like

834
00:38:36.159 --> 00:38:40.440
<v Speaker 2>a nice starter foundation for a fan base, but that's

835
00:38:40.480 --> 00:38:43.719
<v Speaker 2>not going to catapult you into the next season or

836
00:38:43.719 --> 00:38:46.079
<v Speaker 2>the next level of where you really want to be,

837
00:38:46.119 --> 00:38:47.960
<v Speaker 2>depending on where you want to be. You know, some

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<v Speaker 2>people they just they just want to do the scenes,

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<v Speaker 2>and that's fine. Some people they you know, you see

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<v Speaker 2>these people who have like these mega brands, and it

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<v Speaker 2>is a constant twenty four to seven, seven day a week.

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<v Speaker 2>Like I'll tell you, I work every day and that's

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<v Speaker 2>not just shooting scenes, that is everything else behind it.

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<v Speaker 2>So I think that's one thing I would have told

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<v Speaker 2>myself is like, girl, you're going to be doing if

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<v Speaker 2>you want, if you want to get to that level,

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<v Speaker 2>you need to be prepared to know that you need

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<v Speaker 2>it's everything else that comes with it.

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<v Speaker 1>Absolutely. Well, August, thank you so much for coming on.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh thank you for asking. Makes a pleasure.

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<v Speaker 1>We are going to do a special bonus segment we

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<v Speaker 1>have the questions from a Patreon members, and we're also

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<v Speaker 1>going to do a little extra something for FTV. In fact,

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<v Speaker 1>just real quick, maybe a shout out on your o

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<v Speaker 1>f TV channel. What is your channel and what do

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<v Speaker 1>you do on there?

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<v Speaker 2>Yes, I do have a of channel. It is called

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<v Speaker 2>sky High Cocktails and they are just like five to

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<v Speaker 2>seven minute episodes. It's me and then you see a

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<v Speaker 2>lot of like your favorite familiar faces performers and we

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<v Speaker 2>just do cocktails and we chat about what's what's bits,

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<v Speaker 2>what's been going on, and then also we do like

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<v Speaker 2>nice little challenge so sometimes there's like a shakeboard and

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<v Speaker 2>people got to make me some drinks. Sometimes people are

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<v Speaker 2>getting blindfolded. Sometimes people got to like make a drink

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<v Speaker 2>for me just based off of what they've tasted, like

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<v Speaker 2>a blind taste test. But it's a lot of fun.

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<v Speaker 2>It's a lot of fun, a lot of cute girls

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<v Speaker 2>and bikinis having a good time.

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<v Speaker 1>What more could you ask? Right? All right? Well again,

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<v Speaker 1>thank you so much for coming on. And can you

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<v Speaker 1>let everybody know where else they can find you online?

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<v Speaker 2>Everything is at Underscore August Underscore sky that's sky e

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<v Speaker 2>x X. That's where you can find me under everything.

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<v Speaker 2>I try to keep it simple and.

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<v Speaker 1>You guys can find me on Instagram and on x

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<v Speaker 1>at Holly Randall. Go to hollylinks dot com for access

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<v Speaker 1>to all of my platforms. Thank you so much, Dripchat

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<v Speaker 1>again for sponsoring the podcast. Thank you Patreon members for

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<v Speaker 1>supporting us too. And I will see you in the

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<v Speaker 1>Q and A that we're going to film right after this.

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<v Speaker 1>Have a good one. I'll see you guys all next week.

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