Speaker 1: Hi, everybody, welcome to the Best Ever You Show. I'm
Speaker 1: Elizabeth here. What doctor Michaelzies, What an honor it is
Speaker 1: to have you on the show today. Thank you for
Speaker 1: being here.
Speaker 2: Thank you so much for having me Elizabeth.
Speaker 1: Yeah, you have a new book out. I'm so excited
Speaker 1: to talk about that with you. So we're gonna have
Speaker 1: you hold that up in just a minute. But boy,
Speaker 1: do you know, I almost want to read this a
Speaker 1: little bit. But you're an internist, anti aging, regenerative physician
Speaker 1: specialist word certified in internal medicine. You're an attending physician
Speaker 1: at Lenox Hill Hospital serving patients in Manhattan and the
Speaker 1: Midtown area, Midtown East area, and you've you've appeared to
Speaker 1: so many different places. I've seen you on the Doctors
Speaker 1: and I've seen you in all sorts of different places.
Speaker 1: So it's really cool that you're here on Best Ever You.
Speaker 1: And you have a new book coming out. I'm so
Speaker 1: hoping you will hold that up and show us your
Speaker 1: new book if you don't mind. So cool there. It
Speaker 1: is The Ageless Revolution and that's in pre order right now, everybody,
Speaker 1: so you can head over to Amazon pre order your copy.
Speaker 1: It comes out. I think in late January, Is that right?
Speaker 2: January fourteenth?
Speaker 1: January fourteenth, so middle of January. All right, So did
Speaker 1: I know? I didn't go through every qualification. But what
Speaker 1: I'll do with the show is post your bio and
Speaker 1: post links to your website and the books and all
Speaker 1: that stuff. So let's get started talking about your book. Actually,
Speaker 1: where I want to go first in your book, I
Speaker 1: was reading the intro and things like that. Can you
Speaker 1: give us a little bit of background on how you
Speaker 1: arrived at being a doctor and then how COVID changed
Speaker 1: some of the things that you're doing today.
Speaker 2: Well, it was always my dream to be a doctor.
Speaker 2: I think I made that decision when I was about
Speaker 2: probably like fourteen or fifteen. Actually I was a very
Speaker 2: poor student and my grades were very low, and somehow
Speaker 2: I I just realized I was not doing much in
Speaker 2: my life, even though at such a young age. So
Speaker 2: I just I did not think I was smart to
Speaker 2: be a doctor. But surprisingly but effort in to it.
Speaker 2: All of a sudden, my grades were great and they
Speaker 2: improved a lot, and I made it to go to
Speaker 2: medical school. Then my life was over. After that, I
Speaker 2: was like I never knew it was like all the
Speaker 2: years went by, so I went to medical school. I've
Speaker 2: been in practice for a very long time, for thirty years.
Speaker 2: I published a book about fourteen years ago, The Perfect
Speaker 2: End Diet. It's a clean diet that balances hormone, very
Speaker 2: different from all the popular diets low fat and low cops.
Speaker 2: It balances hormone, it does not mess them up. So
Speaker 2: it's a very clean diet with no chemicals. And you know,
Speaker 2: it's very hard to write a book. It takes a
Speaker 2: very very long time. And my first book took a
Speaker 2: very long time to write, but I did. It was
Speaker 2: the number one book on Amazon, I think for eight
Speaker 2: weeks in twenty ten, and I really did not think
Speaker 2: I was going to write a second book, but I
Speaker 2: had something new to say, and I think it was
Speaker 2: COVID nineteen that was the wake up call, like a
Speaker 2: light bulb went in my head, and I said, we're
Speaker 2: not healthy as a society. We're very sick, and we
Speaker 2: live in a disease care society. And even young people
Speaker 2: right now are aging at a much faster rate and
Speaker 2: at a much younger age than our generation, our parents
Speaker 2: and grandparents, and we actually, if you take a look
Speaker 2: at the lifespan in the United States, it's about seventy three.
Speaker 2: It's three years down from seventy six after COVID. It
Speaker 2: is the lowest in the western world. It is Mississippi
Speaker 2: has a lower lifespan than Bangladesh. We spend so much
Speaker 2: money on healthcare, like we live in a disease care society,
Speaker 2: and it's just it's very, very bad. And I realized
Speaker 2: I had to do something. And probably it's kind of
Speaker 2: revolutionary to cold aging a disease, but I'm labeling aging
Speaker 2: is a disease that has to be treated. And that's
Speaker 2: what I did by coming up with the book The
Speaker 2: Age of Revolution, the ten whole Marks of aging, the
Speaker 2: reasons why ourselves at the R eight while we age,
Speaker 2: when we get old, why we get sick, and why
Speaker 2: we die. And I'm throwing the kitchen sink. I got
Speaker 2: all the weapons that no one is talking about to
Speaker 2: fight aging on the sail level, you know. Story So no, I.
Speaker 1: Love it because it feels to me like a lot
Speaker 1: of us pay so much attention to, you know, our
Speaker 1: elevens and our wrinkles and our hair color and our
Speaker 1: nails and our spots and ours you know, spots on
Speaker 1: our skinn are important and things like that, but we're
Speaker 1: not so much paying attention to the internal you know what,
Speaker 1: you can't see happening, and so it scares me a lot.
Speaker 1: I worry. My mom just turned seventy nine today, and
Speaker 1: my grandmother lived to be one hundred and her mother
Speaker 1: lived to be one hundred and five. And I'm like,
Speaker 1: why didn't you guys? What do you guys do? I
Speaker 1: always want to know? And they didn't drink, they didn't smoke,
Speaker 1: they didn't eat very much, they did the exercise, they
Speaker 1: did all these things. Is that where you're at with
Speaker 1: it all? Or what's yeah? Tell me all about it?
Speaker 2: Is very different from all the other diets on the
Speaker 2: market because many of the anti aging book and I
Speaker 2: understand there are a few books on the market that
Speaker 2: address aging, but I think the problem with them is
Speaker 2: they only look at aging from one little angle or
Speaker 2: from one point of view. They may say, you know what, well,
Speaker 2: why don't you fix your diet? And then they talk
Speaker 2: about the blue zones where people live to be one hundred. Well,
Speaker 2: I don't live in Greece, I don't live in Italy,
Speaker 2: I don't live in Okinawa. So I bring the anti
Speaker 2: aging secrets from all over the world, not just the
Speaker 2: blue zones. And then some books are very advanced, you know,
Speaker 2: they talk about things that are not very doable, but
Speaker 2: or that are very very expensive and they're not doable.
Speaker 2: What I want to do is I want to bring
Speaker 2: anti aging to everyone and to make it affordable for everyone,
Speaker 2: for all the people who are forgotten in this broken
Speaker 2: healthcare system. So I want to make it double practical
Speaker 2: and affordable. So my book has something for beginners, mid level,
Speaker 2: and advance. I take the anti aging to the doctor's office,
Speaker 2: so this way you're educated. You even know more than
Speaker 2: the doctors in aging, Like I want this, I want that.
Speaker 2: What do you think of that? This is what I
Speaker 2: want to get on I should get this supplement. I
Speaker 2: want this medication to fight aging. And that's how this
Speaker 2: book is different because it's more of an encyclopedia for
Speaker 2: anti aging, and it's come more comprehensive, and it is
Speaker 2: the first book on the market that targets all the
Speaker 2: whole marks of aging, all ten home mark, not just
Speaker 2: one or two, but all of them.
Speaker 1: Yeah, we see a lot of books at best Ever
Speaker 1: you come our way for this or that and promoting
Speaker 1: them and stuff and I've read your book. I have
Speaker 1: an advanced copy of it. I'm telling everybody please go
Speaker 1: buy this book. It's absolutely amazing. And we're fellow HCI authors,
Speaker 1: so I say that too, like you know, it's our
Speaker 1: HCI family. But aside from that, if this were you know,
Speaker 1: any other publisher or anything like that, I'd probably say
Speaker 1: the same thing or would say the same thing because
Speaker 1: it it's a I mean, it's just fabulous. It's it's
Speaker 1: almost like groundbreaking aging advice. And it feels to me
Speaker 1: like you're going to make a lot of us have
Speaker 1: less anxiety about it as well, because it's like questions answered.
Speaker 1: Here it is, here's what you can do to slow
Speaker 1: this process down because a panic sort of sets in
Speaker 1: at a certain age. You're like, how do I not
Speaker 1: do this? Like how do I reverse reverse this and
Speaker 1: live to be this age or that age? And I
Speaker 1: think you figured it out. I would love to hear
Speaker 1: hear more to help our to help our listeners and
Speaker 1: readers and viewers.
Speaker 2: Well, I have a lot of experience. I've been doing
Speaker 2: this for a very long time, and I trained in
Speaker 2: functional medicine, and you know, and what I did is
Speaker 2: I assembled all the information for the readers. So I
Speaker 2: did all the homework of attend the tons of lectures.
Speaker 2: I've watched all the anti aging doctors, and I wanted
Speaker 2: to make it just simple for people. Do as much
Speaker 2: or as little as you want, and you will see results,
Speaker 2: so you don't have to go the extreme like what
Speaker 2: the movie stars are doing and the super rich that
Speaker 2: are doing. So I take it from basic stuff from
Speaker 2: super food all the way to advanced medicine, to stem
Speaker 2: cells and peptides and bioidentical hormones to the medication that
Speaker 2: affect longevity, and you know you're taken as little as
Speaker 2: you want or as much as you want. You can
Speaker 2: implement as well as you want or as much as
Speaker 2: you want, but whatever you do is gonna have a
Speaker 2: positive effect on your life, whatever you do, because every
Speaker 2: everything adds up and it's like it's a process, you know,
Speaker 2: Like I did not reach that level of very advanced
Speaker 2: in my own anti aging. It took me. I thought
Speaker 2: about my personal story in the book that it took
Speaker 2: me a very long time. I was on the wrong
Speaker 2: path for a long time. I was pre diabetic. I
Speaker 2: followed the wrong guidelines because the guidelines in this country
Speaker 2: are totally wrong, including from the old USDA Food pyramid.
Speaker 2: You know, you know, the low fat guidelines are all
Speaker 2: full of sugar. Sugar is the worst thing you could
Speaker 2: do for anti aging. Some people gave up on the
Speaker 2: low fat that we advised to follow and started following
Speaker 2: low card diets. But then low carb diets are full
Speaker 2: of other chemicals other than sugar, and I tried to
Speaker 2: damage the DNA. They are linked to cancer. So people
Speaker 2: judge their weigh by how many pounds they lost on
Speaker 2: their bathroom scale, but don't realize sometimes that the healthy
Speaker 2: diet that they're following are also shading a few years
Speaker 2: of their life.
Speaker 1: Yeah, you know, it's you just touched on a few
Speaker 1: things that you know, sugar and the things that we
Speaker 1: all love to do sort of, but they're not so
Speaker 1: good for your other You know, you have ten hallmarks
Speaker 1: of aging. Do you want to go through a few
Speaker 1: of them or are you going to rattle them all off?
Speaker 2: Or you have to fight all of them? You can
Speaker 2: just fight one two otherwise. That's the other books that
Speaker 2: talks about. But let's say, for example, one of the
Speaker 2: whole mark of aging is we have young cells in
Speaker 2: our bodies and we have old cells were always in
Speaker 2: a process of rejuvenation and the problem this is one
Speaker 2: of the whole mark of aging, is like the old
Speaker 2: cells don't die, they just stick around. And not only
Speaker 2: they don't work, so now the young cells have to overwork,
Speaker 2: but the old cells are also secreting chemicals and cytokinds
Speaker 2: that damage the young cells. So you have to get
Speaker 2: rid of the old cells. So one way to get
Speaker 2: rid of the old cells is basic stuff is sleep.
Speaker 2: Sleep is very very important for anti aging. We see
Speaker 2: a lot of people who do shift work, nurses at night,
Speaker 2: people who work and i'd they have higher immortality from
Speaker 2: heart disease and stroke. And that's because during sleep, not
Speaker 2: only we secrete gross hormone, but we also we secrete
Speaker 2: a hormone called melatonin, and melatonin is a sleep hormone.
Speaker 2: But melatonin is not only a sleep hormone, it's also
Speaker 2: an antioxen that protect the mitochondria, which are the battery
Speaker 2: of your cell. So without if your cell phone is
Speaker 2: not charged, it cannot work. So your mitochondri needs to
Speaker 2: be charged. So when we get enough sleep, our mitochondria
Speaker 2: are working, our cells are working. So we have to
Speaker 2: get rid of the CENESN cell. And one way to
Speaker 2: get rid of the CINESM cells or the old cell.
Speaker 2: They even call them zombie cells because they're like in
Speaker 2: the movies they don't die is sleep. Coloric restriction on
Speaker 2: the weekend, maybe a skip breakfast, you just do brunch
Speaker 2: and dinner so you get rid of the CENESM cell.
Speaker 2: And there are supplements that I talk about in the
Speaker 2: book that are very essential to get rid of cines
Speaker 2: and cell like physet and coarse it. And are some
Speaker 2: medications as well. So that's one of the whole mode
Speaker 2: that I attack from different angles, from lifestyle to glor
Speaker 2: restriction to supplements or even you can go to medications.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I get so happy when I hear doctors say
Speaker 1: something like sleep can change your life instead of handing
Speaker 1: me a pill that can change my life, because personally,
Speaker 1: I have life threatening food allergies that I've had since
Speaker 1: I was twenty six or so. I got them after
Speaker 1: a pregnancy. I developed food allergies to fish and shellfish
Speaker 1: and peanut and trina and there are four life threatening
Speaker 1: food allergies on board that I haven't been able to
Speaker 1: shake no matter what. So I have a medic alert
Speaker 1: on and all these things, and so I'm constantly looking
Speaker 1: for things for our food allergy community that are pure
Speaker 1: like that, so, you know, because we're also so touchy.
Speaker 1: It's a huge one in thirteen kids has a food
Speaker 1: allergy now, and it's a ton of people and a
Speaker 1: lot of a ton of stressed out parents with that
Speaker 1: as well. So if you've got anything, like any advice
Speaker 1: on that too, because it's all it seems like it compounds.
Speaker 1: I read this quote the other day. I think it
Speaker 1: was more on like Instagram. It's like, what you do
Speaker 1: in your thirties affects your forties, what you do in
Speaker 1: your forties affects your fifties, your fifties to your sixties
Speaker 1: and so forth. Do you think that's true.
Speaker 2: Well, you know, as we get older, sometimes we develop
Speaker 2: even some food allergies that didn't exist before. And what
Speaker 2: happens is some people could be allergic to higher amounts
Speaker 2: that they may not have. For example, some people like
Speaker 2: for example, the number one of the number one allergies
Speaker 2: is dairy from cows. It's seven percent. So you know,
Speaker 2: you may not have a little bit of a problem
Speaker 2: having a little bit of milk on your coffee. But
Speaker 2: then if you have two loti, you may break up
Speaker 2: in a rash. So I think it's important to get
Speaker 2: tested to know exactly what you're allergic to, because you
Speaker 2: don't want to deprive yourself of certain food and you
Speaker 2: want to be also alert if you're allergic to a
Speaker 2: certain food that can give you an aphylactic reaction.
Speaker 1: Yeah. Yeah, it's it's kind of scary. You know, there's
Speaker 1: so much information out there. You kind of go, Okay,
Speaker 1: what do I trust? And so I love trusted people
Speaker 1: like you who have done the work of written books,
Speaker 1: have done the research and so forth. Do you have
Speaker 1: any aging other aging secrets that you want to give us,
Speaker 1: like more homork another hallmark of aging. I mean, we'll
Speaker 1: take it.
Speaker 2: There's no magic fail. It's a lot of I think
Speaker 2: close to twenty thirty supplements a day, because even that
Speaker 2: book for me has been an empty aging journey to realize, oh,
Speaker 2: you know, I'm not taking care of my God. So
Speaker 2: God hells is another hallmark of aging. And right now
Speaker 2: we have we have a problem in our got in
Speaker 2: the United States, and our gut lives about thirty six
Speaker 2: trillion bacteria. We have more cells bacteria in our got
Speaker 2: than our bodies and if you don't take care of them,
Speaker 2: you're going to end up with disease. So actually it's
Speaker 2: one of the hallmark of aging. So in fact, we
Speaker 2: don't have enough fermented food, we don't eat enough probiotics
Speaker 2: in our diet. We eat so much sugar that we
Speaker 2: feed the wrong bacteria. So now what we have is
Speaker 2: calling cancer is the leading cancer in men below age fifty.
Speaker 2: And in the same time, we take a look at
Speaker 2: women in South Korea who are going to be the
Speaker 2: first in the world to make it to age ninety
Speaker 2: and that's because of a special dish that they do.
Speaker 2: It's called kimshi, which is fermented vegetables. And that's so
Speaker 2: one trick up my sleeve is to have more fermented products,
Speaker 2: to have more yogurt, to have more cafeir. I you
Speaker 2: are allergic to dairy, you can have kmbucha, you can
Speaker 2: have kimshi if you want. Because you have to take
Speaker 2: care of you got bacteria, and that's another thing to
Speaker 2: take care of for us to live better, to prevent
Speaker 2: can or to keep our weight, and also to are
Speaker 2: also those bacteria affect our moods.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I want to make sure I respect your time,
Speaker 1: because I know, you know, we don't have we can't
Speaker 1: go on for an hour and things like that. But
Speaker 1: I love topics like this, so I hope you'll come
Speaker 1: back and.
Speaker 2: Things like that.
Speaker 1: But can do you have maybe like ten more minutes
Speaker 1: or so fifteen more minutes?
Speaker 2: Absolutely?
Speaker 1: I want to go to why why the Ageless Diet?
Speaker 1: What is discussed in the book that's so different? So
Speaker 1: what's what's in here that's so different compared to other books?
Speaker 1: So what's that Mean's what's ageless Diet mean?
Speaker 2: Well, you know I told you, Elizabeth at the beginning
Speaker 2: of an hour when we met, is that I wrote
Speaker 2: a book about twelve thirteen years ago called The Perfect
Speaker 2: and Diet. And I wrote this book because I had
Speaker 2: something new to say at the time, just like I
Speaker 2: have something new to say now. And the Perfect and
Speaker 2: Diet is a diet that balances hormone and it's a
Speaker 2: hormone friendly diet. It doesn't have anymicals, it doesn't it
Speaker 2: doesn't allow any sugar, so it doesn't have cereals and
Speaker 2: modern like the low fat diets, doesn't have any n
Speaker 2: I trites, bacon and sausage like all the low carb
Speaker 2: diets that allow you to eat anything that's poisonous as
Speaker 2: long as it's sugar free. We know that artificial sweetness
Speaker 2: are into heart attacks. We know, and I tried, so
Speaker 2: I just told you earlier. They damage our DNA. We
Speaker 2: need to protect our DNA, not damage our DNA. That's
Speaker 2: why we take tourene, another supplement that protects our DNA.
Speaker 2: Take tourine two grams a day. It's a very important,
Speaker 2: most important supplement. Tourine ta u r any two grams
Speaker 2: a day. That's probably one of the best longevity supplement.
Speaker 2: It can give us eight to nine years of longevity.
Speaker 2: And that's yes. I recommend that to all the people
Speaker 2: watching and listening to us now. So yes. So the
Speaker 2: Perfect ting is a diet that balances hormony, does not
Speaker 2: mess them up. It does not have any chemicals. And
Speaker 2: I wrote the book because I was fed up with
Speaker 2: all the low fat guidelines, with all the sugar, all
Speaker 2: the chemicals, all the vegetable oils which are very bad
Speaker 2: for us, and the low carbs are not any better.
Speaker 2: And then people sometimes they just follow they follow popular diets,
Speaker 2: so they buy those packaged food that are sitting in
Speaker 2: the supermarket. They're sitting there every year with all the chemicals.
Speaker 2: I don't think all those chemicals I haven't heard of.
Speaker 2: Then I don't know what they do. I don't think
Speaker 2: there's research on what they do. So the Perfect ten
Speaker 2: was a very clean diet, and in the Ancious Revolution,
Speaker 2: I take it up a few notches by copying the
Speaker 2: diet of the blue zones. What are those people doing
Speaker 2: to live such a long life? And I think the
Speaker 2: most important besides sleep is a diet. So the secret
Speaker 2: to longevity is to stay away from sugar. It's to
Speaker 2: stay away from chemical is to go organic. It is
Speaker 2: to take care of your gut. And another thing is
Speaker 2: to eat more fat, natural fats, olive oil, avocados, nuts, butter,
Speaker 2: because low fat are very bad too absorb the fat
Speaker 2: soluble vitamin or missing invite them in K or missing
Speaker 2: vitamin D. Vitamin D, for example, is the reason why
Speaker 2: so many people got sick during the COVID pandemic, because
Speaker 2: our immune system is suppressed. And especially if you live
Speaker 2: in the Northeast, you live in Maine, you live in
Speaker 2: New York, you don't get up sude, then you're going
Speaker 2: to be a low in vitamin D and your level
Speaker 2: of vitamin D is over fifty. The chances of dying
Speaker 2: off COVID is zero. So all the people who died
Speaker 2: during COVID, it was really very sad because it was
Speaker 2: unnecessary and it was I saw the sadness in their
Speaker 2: parents' eyes and it was just nobody's taking vitamin D
Speaker 2: in the Northeast, and that's why they got sick. When
Speaker 2: the COVID was the test that we all took and
Speaker 2: we all failed. So God, I forget what was the
Speaker 2: question we're talking about? Back to what the Asians die?
Speaker 2: The Asians died. Take take away from this from the
Speaker 2: blue zones, what are the people eating to live to
Speaker 2: be one hundred? So yeah, and you know, and I
Speaker 2: go beyond the blue zones. So Monoco, for example, they
Speaker 2: also left in ninety eighty eight ninety they eating a
Speaker 2: lot of seafood. In South Korea, they're eating the kinshi,
Speaker 2: you know. In Okinawa, Japan, they're eating sweet purple potatoes
Speaker 2: which have more antioxidens than berries. And then the secret
Speaker 2: to longevity and in those diets is they don't eat enough.
Speaker 2: They don't eat more protein or excess protein. So we
Speaker 2: have a trend in this country where we're going high protein,
Speaker 2: low carb. Now high protein have been switched from high
Speaker 2: protein low carp to now keito. Keito is the new
Speaker 2: term for low carb, which is now in fashion all
Speaker 2: the magazines, and but keito is nothing but a twist
Speaker 2: on the low carb approach from the nineteen eighties. And
Speaker 2: you increase your diet to eighty percent seventy percent fat, well,
Speaker 2: how are you gonna get any antioxygens if you're just
Speaker 2: eating a salve made of lettuce and bacon and cheese
Speaker 2: and so heart disease is really a disease of protein intoxication.
Speaker 2: It's not a disease of eating too much fat. It's
Speaker 2: not from eating too much shrimp or eating too much eggs.
Speaker 2: Is from eating too much protein. We found people doing
Speaker 2: high protein that they lose weight, and they, like I
Speaker 2: told you, they judge your success by that. But what
Speaker 2: they do in new cats can of their outeres, of
Speaker 2: their corners. You find that they have the arteries a
Speaker 2: block after ten fifteen years because the high protein breaks
Speaker 2: another protein called uric acid. And uric acid is leading
Speaker 2: to higher mortality. So you want to lower your protein intake.
Speaker 2: You just eat eat enough to keep your muscle mass
Speaker 2: as you get older, so I would say, like the
Speaker 2: size of the palm of your hand too street times
Speaker 2: a day, but can be eating protein all day and
Speaker 2: cutting out all the carbs. So yeah, So the Asians
Speaker 2: dye takes it up several notches from the perfect ten
Speaker 2: by going to see what those people in the boozone
Speaker 2: are eating, by having more beans, by having less animal products,
Speaker 2: by eating more superfoods. And I take their diets from
Speaker 2: all over the world and have put it in the
Speaker 2: Ageless diet.
Speaker 1: You know, I get I always get stressed out when
Speaker 1: I want to go eat like blueberries and strawberries and
Speaker 1: things like that, and then they went they end up
Speaker 1: on some list that you shouldn't eat because they're so
Speaker 1: or not.
Speaker 2: You have to go organic with certain vegetables, and some
Speaker 2: vegetables you don't have to go organic, like you know, mangoes, bananas,
Speaker 2: but with there's a list from the USDA Department of Agriculture.
Speaker 2: When they tell you this one, you probably should go
Speaker 2: organic if and you know they are available in regular supermarkets.
Speaker 2: You can buy berries and strawberries organic from the supermarket.
Speaker 2: It's a few you know, maybe forty cents more. But
Speaker 2: I think it's worse. You don't want to eating two
Speaker 2: pounds of pesticides a year in the United States. That's
Speaker 2: a lot.
Speaker 1: Yeah, very very lot. Okay, I'm going to ask you
Speaker 1: ozempic question just because I think I can. Can I
Speaker 1: you know, people think it's a magic cure, is it?
Speaker 1: Is it not? And so forth. So I we have
Speaker 1: a son who's got a master's degree in pharmacology from
Speaker 1: Georgetown and he's working on his PhD next and he's like, absolutely,
Speaker 1: do not take that. It's not enough research done, all
Speaker 1: this stuff, and he is against it. Are you against it? Or?
Speaker 2: I mentioned ozempic and Monjaro in the book. In fact,
Speaker 2: there's another drug coming soon on the market. It's called
Speaker 2: triple G. It works on stree hormones and people who
Speaker 2: took it lost once sort of the body weight is
Speaker 2: going to make. Cozempic is like baby stuff. Can pay
Speaker 2: to it, and I think the best thing to do,
Speaker 2: I mean, I happen in the book as a last resort.
Speaker 2: You really have to address your diet, your lifestyle. I
Speaker 2: mean I have friends who are doctors who take cozempic
Speaker 2: and then the other pizza. Well, guess what once you
Speaker 2: get off the ozempic, you're going to gain the weight back,
Speaker 2: so you have to address your lifestyle. But I think
Speaker 2: they could be an answer for many people who have
Speaker 2: given up. I think one of the biggest problems with
Speaker 2: them is people tend to lose muscle mass, and you
Speaker 2: want to keep your muscle. So if you're going to
Speaker 2: take one of those GLP drugs, you really have to
Speaker 2: increase your anaerobic activities, so maybe at the gym do
Speaker 2: more weightlifting. You don't want to lose muscle, you want
Speaker 2: to lose the fat. And they do have some cardioprotective effect.
Speaker 2: They prevent heart attack, they prevent strokes, they prevent despite
Speaker 2: twenty percent, so they kind of longevity. But they have
Speaker 2: some side effects as well, you know, the nausea, the paralyx.
Speaker 2: But they could be very helpful for someone who has
Speaker 2: really tried everything and nothing worked. And that's why it's
Speaker 2: part of the revolution. It's part of all the medicine
Speaker 2: we have now that can change how we live. But
Speaker 2: they should not be something permanent. They should not be
Speaker 2: something for life. They should they should change your lifestyle.
Speaker 1: You know, Okay, I'm gonna go all hormonal on you now.
Speaker 2: Next I thought about on summer There.
Speaker 1: Hormonal any the book.
Speaker 2: In summer.
Speaker 1: It froze, hang on, there we go? What you say?
Speaker 1: I'm sorry.
Speaker 2: I was saying that you reached the part of the
Speaker 2: book I talk about hormones and Susan some her.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I love her. It's a shame she passed away,
Speaker 1: but I think she's very interesting. Yeah, do you love her?
Speaker 2: I met Suzanne twelve years ago during a medical conference.
Speaker 2: We said hello, We talked for a few minutes, and
Speaker 2: then people asked me in magazines to comment on her
Speaker 2: books and articles. I had to read her books, and
Speaker 2: then I think one time I don't don't remember. It
Speaker 2: was the Yety News of the New York Post. I
Speaker 2: was rescorded that I was attacking her, but I wasn't. Really,
Speaker 2: it was my mistake, and I mentioned that story in
Speaker 2: my book that really I wasn't. I agreed on what
Speaker 2: she said, but it was my mistake. I did not
Speaker 2: proofread the article the editor Russia, and then when I
Speaker 2: apologized to her, when I saw Earlateter, I was like,
Speaker 2: I'm always attacked for my views. And I mentioned in
Speaker 2: the book that we were also in the Zoom meeting
Speaker 2: during the COVID pandemic with her husband, and she only
Speaker 2: talked about hormones. And really, you know, I agreed a
Speaker 2: lot of things she did, but really her desk really
Speaker 2: affected me a lot. And at that day I almost
Speaker 2: said the book was almost done, and I mentioned the
Speaker 2: story in my book. I almost said that, oh my god,
Speaker 2: I'm doing She's doing everything. I mean, I didn't agree
Speaker 2: on her taking ross hormone because cross hormone is linked
Speaker 2: to hire MORTALTI promotes cancer. But I'm not her doctor,
Speaker 2: you know. And but when she died, I'm like, oh
Speaker 2: my god, what am I doing? What am all these
Speaker 2: pills I'm taking? I really Then I called a very
Speaker 2: good friend of mine who is a health editor, and
Speaker 2: I said, you know what, I'm gonna change the book.
Speaker 2: I don't think we have control of what we do.
Speaker 2: I'm like, I'm playing God here. I'm not God. And
Speaker 2: then he just told me, you cannot do that. You
Speaker 2: stop believing in what you in what you're saying. You
Speaker 2: don't believe that you're eating right can make you live long. Said,
Speaker 2: of course, it can make you live long. Don't believe
Speaker 2: that if you get enough sleeping a little long, you
Speaker 2: don't think of the medicine. The medicine you give me people. Look,
Speaker 2: I said, I do. Said so, why you want to
Speaker 2: change your message?
Speaker 1: Yeah, exactly, God, he said.
Speaker 2: No, you do something big. You're trying to be give
Speaker 2: people hope that you can change your life by doing
Speaker 2: positive things. And I mentioned the story in the chapter
Speaker 2: of hormones in the book because really it would have
Speaker 2: affected the whole, you know, pass of the book. So
Speaker 2: I kept the book as my original plan to do.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's your best the end. We have no control.
Speaker 2: I can get hit by a car.
Speaker 1: I know it is, and that's the anxiety about it.
Speaker 1: And I think people are just trying to do what's
Speaker 1: right for them and and try things and so forth.
Speaker 1: And hormones always scare me. I'm I'm fifty five. I'm
Speaker 1: in that age group where they said, don't do this,
Speaker 1: it causes cancer. So I'm one of those people who
Speaker 1: doesn't have h or anything like that at this time.
Speaker 2: It's different, Elizabeth, between men and women. First, we have
Speaker 2: to talk about the difference between bioidentical hormones, which are
Speaker 2: natural hormones or synthetic hormones that we would train in
Speaker 2: medical school and residency to give women in menopause. The
Speaker 2: synceatic hormones are from horses, like the prempro all that
Speaker 2: stuff premarin that gives people cancer. Now bioidentical hormones are
Speaker 2: from yams and they're identical to human hormones. And after
Speaker 2: Susanne wrote her book forgot what was the name of
Speaker 2: her book, It's called Age Lists or something like that,
Speaker 2: and she talked about bio the sale of the synceatic
Speaker 2: hormone plummeted. So what happened is that drug companies started
Speaker 2: making bioidentical hormone that you can get from your local pharmacy.
Speaker 2: You can get it from CBS, you can get it
Speaker 2: from dayne Read and they're bioidentical. You don't have to
Speaker 2: go to a compounding pharmacy. Their natural hormones. And of
Speaker 2: course you can only do the small amounts just for
Speaker 2: the function. So there are linked to longevity in women
Speaker 2: if you go to the right doctor and do them correctly.
Speaker 2: Since sidic hormones are not good when it comes to men,
Speaker 2: this tas drone is not linked to longevity. It makes
Speaker 2: you feel good, it gives you energy, it gives you
Speaker 2: sex drive, it gives you muscles. But unfortunate is tas
Speaker 2: drone is not linked to longevity. And then the biggest
Speaker 2: myss in longevity is growth hormone HGH, and that can
Speaker 2: shorten life. So a lot of people anti aging clinic
Speaker 2: are giving growth hormone and growth from home promotes cancer.
Speaker 2: You wanna, you wanna, you wanna raise your growth for
Speaker 2: more naturally by intermittent fasting, by coloric restriction, by doing
Speaker 2: an aerobic activity, by eating protein after working out. But
Speaker 2: you don't want to do inject any growth from home
Speaker 2: because that shortens life. But by identical ver most for
Speaker 2: women is a good choice. And I mentioned that in
Speaker 2: the book I have a Shatdow on hormones where I
Speaker 2: talk about my story Lisus on the summer.
Speaker 1: You know, I love I love the fact that you
Speaker 1: just mentioned men, because half of our audience is men
Speaker 1: and the other half of all the audience is men
Speaker 1: to via their people saying, look at this audiences men, it's.
Speaker 2: Me don't do anything about menopause. But also men don't
Speaker 2: doing anything about their disguston because you know the problem
Speaker 2: is when you go to the doctor, they always compare
Speaker 2: you to your age group, and that is wrong. You
Speaker 2: want to be compared to the younger person you can
Speaker 2: be like you know. I also tell a story in
Speaker 2: my book where like my mom went through menopause in
Speaker 2: one of the worst ways, and when she the women
Speaker 2: during menopause, the sex from one, they just drop like this,
Speaker 2: like it's vanish, and she just had like hot flashes,
Speaker 2: night sweat. She was screaming. We thought she lost her mind.
Speaker 2: And it went on for two three years. And what
Speaker 2: happens is the women's sex formone, the astrogen progesterone, the advantage.
Speaker 2: They got to zero nothing. So you go to the doctor.
Speaker 2: What did they tell you? Hormones are normal? Yeah, they're
Speaker 2: normal for someone in menopause, but my mom lost her mind.
Speaker 2: You don't want to have the hormones of a woman
Speaker 2: and menopause. You want to have the hormones of a
Speaker 2: girl who is eighteen nineteen or at least functioning. So
Speaker 2: you gotta have some at least the function that you
Speaker 2: don't have the hot splashes and the cells don't talk
Speaker 2: to another. And that's one other whole market of aging.
Speaker 2: So the problem is we go to our doctors. We
Speaker 2: trust them, but they have good intentions, but we were
Speaker 2: not trained. So the patient may go to the doctor.
Speaker 2: And then they go to the doctor and his tystostroon
Speaker 2: is three hundred and he's like fifty years old or
Speaker 2: even eighteen. Let's say he's twenty. And then the doctor
Speaker 2: tells them your hormone, your testosterroo is normal. No, it's
Speaker 2: normal for someone who's eighty, not who's twenty five. The
Speaker 2: reason his distosterio solo at age twenty five because this
Speaker 2: guy drinks a lot, he smokes spot, he stays up late,
Speaker 2: and he has all the symptoms of low TI, which
Speaker 2: is he could be depressed, it could be having built
Speaker 2: muscles at the jam, you could be having erection problem.
Speaker 2: And then what does the doctor do. They give him
Speaker 2: a prescription for anti viagra or whatever it is. Then
Speaker 2: the problem with this stosterone stays unsolved. So, yeah, you
Speaker 2: want to fix all the hormonal problem. It's another wole
Speaker 2: market aging. You want to fix not just the daser
Speaker 2: hormone like insulin by cutting the sugar, but you also
Speaker 2: want to fix the minor hormones like estrogen progesterone at
Speaker 2: the stosterone.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I have a just personal story for a second.
Speaker 1: I went to the doctor because I was having just
Speaker 1: the most ungodly migraines like clockwork every month, just like there,
Speaker 1: there it is, and you're it feels like the train
Speaker 1: goes off the tracks for a week. You're just like,
Speaker 1: oh my god, my headache kind of thing. And I
Speaker 1: went into the doctrine. I'm like, this is like clockwork.
Speaker 1: This has got to be hormone related. Things are bouncing
Speaker 1: all around. Test me and he goes, you look great,
Speaker 1: like that has nothing to do with it, Like you
Speaker 1: look great. What is that? I'm like, test the thing
Speaker 1: and he's like, you're I'm glad, you know. He actually apologized.
Speaker 1: He's like, I'm so sorry for saying that. I'm like, well,
Speaker 1: you know, thank you. But and but he said, your
Speaker 1: estrogen is like plummeting or soaring or plummeting or scaring,
Speaker 1: Like it's like this with you know, testosterone and and progest.
Speaker 1: I think it's progesterine or something like that. You progest
Speaker 1: your own testosterone and estrogen were all right, and so
Speaker 1: we kind of got to the bottom of it a
Speaker 1: little bit. But yeah, I have struggled with that up
Speaker 1: until I hit menopause, and now it seems like it's
Speaker 1: leveled out and there's no headaches and I'm like, well,
Speaker 1: what's that mean exactly?
Speaker 2: What's gone of breast cancer or anything like? Bioidentical hormones
Speaker 2: have a good place for longevity because they protect women
Speaker 2: against ostroporosis, they prevent heart attacks and so on. Oh,
Speaker 2: I have a whole chapter in the book about that.
Speaker 1: It was very helpful because there's so much confusion about that.
Speaker 1: You don't know where to step step next to make
Speaker 1: sure you're okay. You know, they don't want to have
Speaker 1: step wrong and have something happen as a repercussion. So
Speaker 1: it's you're like living going well, I've got a headache again,
Speaker 1: you know kind of thing. So you know, I absolutely
Speaker 1: love your book. You are just fantastic to talk to.
Speaker 1: Great personality, and thank you so much for sharing sharing
Speaker 1: yourself with our audience here at Best Ever You I'm just.
Speaker 2: Vity and can I add something else?
Speaker 1: Oh please? Yeah, So.
Speaker 2: I told you I wrote the book because I wanted
Speaker 2: to make a difference to make our life span better,
Speaker 2: our health span better, to live longer. We should not
Speaker 2: be living fifteen years less than than other countries. And
Speaker 2: that was my goal, was the book. But then my
Speaker 2: goal changed at the very end, and I realized that
Speaker 2: I want to make it a huge difference, and so
Speaker 2: all the proceeds of the book are going for charity
Speaker 2: as well. Oh that's cool, Yeah, I was Breast cancer
Speaker 2: is another thing that's affecting women in America at a
Speaker 2: much higher rate, and it's affecting especially minorities African American
Speaker 2: and Hispanic at forty percent. And many of those women
Speaker 2: who are affected don't have the money. They don't have
Speaker 2: a thousand dollars in the bank. And I want to
Speaker 2: make a huge difference, not only for individual on an
Speaker 2: individual basis, for everyone, but to help everyone on a
Speaker 2: humanitarian basis. So thank you for having me. So the
Speaker 2: interest revolution is trying to make a revolution everywhere.
Speaker 1: Oh that's awesome. All right, hold the book up one
Speaker 1: more time. So I want to make sure everybody goes
Speaker 1: in pre orders this so ageless revolution. Everybody there is.
Speaker 1: It's such It looks great too, by the way, can
Speaker 1: I see the back of it?
Speaker 2: Sure?
Speaker 1: Oh that's perfect, great as my resume there, Yeah, sure is.
Speaker 1: That's awesome. Well, it's been wonderful to have you on
Speaker 1: the Best Ever Year show. Best of luck with the launch.
Speaker 1: I hope you'll come back when the book is out
Speaker 1: and come back and talk to us again and.
Speaker 2: Get a consultation, was me, Yeah, I.
Speaker 1: Know, I would love to do we send Do you
Speaker 1: have a website you want to send people to or
Speaker 1: anything like that.
Speaker 2: You have my website from now Michael Iss md dot com.
Speaker 2: And I think the Age's Solution is being built right now.
Speaker 2: So it's a lot of work. It took a lot
Speaker 2: of effort for the book to start, so I have
Speaker 2: to work on the website.
Speaker 1: Perfect. Yeah, no, I hear you. It's always something. It's
Speaker 1: it's easier to write the book than market the book,
Speaker 1: it feels like. But they're both really fun. So anyway,
Speaker 1: best of luck with everything. Thank you so much for
Speaker 1: the information, and and everybody's going to go out and
Speaker 1: get two grams a day of Did you say touring?
Speaker 2: Is that how you say you gotta work on their
Speaker 2: lifestyle first?
Speaker 3: I love the toy, their diet and they get enough
Speaker 3: sleep and then they get on the tourne you can
Speaker 3: get tone while you're not you're staying out late at
Speaker 3: you know.
Speaker 1: I love that you mentioned sleep so much because like
Speaker 1: that's the key too. That's the key to me, Like
Speaker 1: I have to sleep, like I can sleep anywhere, and
Speaker 1: I can sleep for twelve you know what you set
Speaker 1: the time. There's no time where I could fall asleep
Speaker 1: for fourteen hours and not from exhaustion. I just put
Speaker 1: myself to bed at night, and I have a really
Speaker 1: good sleep. So I do not struggle with sleep at
Speaker 1: all ever, And it's my husband is like, how is
Speaker 1: this possible? Like, I just love my sleep.
Speaker 2: I don't know.
Speaker 1: So I love that you said that. I'm like, I
Speaker 1: feel better on that score for sure. I'm like, I
Speaker 1: love sleep. Is that a terrible thing to say?
Speaker 2: I love sleep overall?
Speaker 1: Sleeping and napping are just amazing. So anyway, all right,
Speaker 1: we thank you so much for being here. Best of
Speaker 1: luck with your book, and thank you everybody for watching
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