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Speaker 1: There is a huge and uncomfortable topic that's part of

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modern society, and it's about same sex attraction, same sex marriage.

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And it's hurtful because I think all of us have

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friends or family who are same sex attracted, and they

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are being taught that if we do not agree that

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same sex attraction is sponsored by God, then either we

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serve a hateful Gods or we ourselves are hateful. More

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of disconcernedly to me, is the rapid attack on the

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Biblical view, attempting to obsuvate it and confuse it, and

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some of it's pretty sophisticated. I'm reading an article called

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Future Church Now by Grimy Cornington, and I wanted to

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bring my friends and pastor Jim Pupman into approach this

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article and the entire topic with us. We'll do this

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with the help of Visible website is go visible dot

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com and with God Almighty.

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Speaker 2: But Todd Herman show is one hundred percent disapproved by

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big pharma technocrats in tyron sebriant ware from the high

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mountains of Free America. Here's the Emerald City EXI Todd

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to her Man.

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Speaker 1: Today is the day the Lord has made, and these

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are the times to which God has decided we shall live.

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And my friend and pastor Jim Putman joins me, almost

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color coordinated.

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Speaker 3: We got the gray. I just didn't bring my Cabella's hat.

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Welcome in. Good to see you, my friend, to see you.

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Speaker 1: This is a hurtful topic for people. It's hard for

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me to talk about. I wish you didn't have to

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discuss it because they know it hurts people.

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Speaker 3: Do you ever get hurt?

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Speaker 1: Do you ever feel hurt in your heart from having

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to speak God's word this way?

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Speaker 3: Well, what bothers me is how people hear it the

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Bible right now, there's such confusion about what love is. Right,

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love affirms no matter what, and that's not what fan thirteen.

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You know, God's definition of love is love agapata is

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an act of the will right, and it's a decision,

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and it's patient. It's kind, yes, but it notices you

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get down into that passage, it says love does not

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rejoice with unrighteousness, but rejoices with the truth. So true

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love doesn't say, hey, anything you do or want to

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do is okay. Real friendship is not backing somebody's play.

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In fact, the Bible says wounds of a friend can

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be trusted, but an enemy multiplies kisses. Enemy tells you

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what you want to hear. So and we acknowledge that

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I don't say to my kid, hey, I love you,

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and which means I'll affirm your decision to go do

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something terrible to yourself. No, I love you whether you

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do it or you don't do it. But real love

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it's unconditional. But that doesn't mean that I say whatever

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you're doing is okay. So, like you know, I loved

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my son when he was a drug addict. I loved

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him enough to say this is wrong. It's hurting you.

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I'm not just going to stand by and let it happen,

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because real love backs your play no matter what. That's

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not real love. So the question is if God's word

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says something to be true. Real love tells you that

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what you're doing is contrary to God's will for you.

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And God's will for you is good. His word is

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life and good, and what you're choosing to do is

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going to hurt you, hurts others, and it hurt your body.

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God knows how he made you. He knows what's good

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for your body and what isn't what's good for your mind,

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what's good for others around you. He actually loves others

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around you. For you to go in sin, it hurts you.

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It's not how God made you. It has impact, but

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it also sets the stage for someone else to be

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okay to go sin too. So it's a complex issue,

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and I think so many people have Empathy is not

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to say what you're doing is okay. It's to go. Man.

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I understand you are struggling. I care about you. This

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hurts you. I'm sorry that you have that attraction you

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wish you didn't have. I have attractions I wish I

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didn't have, and they drive me crazy. I hate them.

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Just because I have an attraction doesn't mean it's good

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I have it. I'm falling short of the glory of God.

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I have enemy, my flesh, my experiences. I have to

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say no to different attractions than other people have. Not

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everybody has the same attractions. But we have to go

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what does God's word say is good and right and good?

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And then we have to say no to the things

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that he disapproves of.

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Speaker 1: There's a company called Angel Studios that's done something for

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Christians that I didn't think I would live to see

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and live through this This is a massive, massive moment.

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Hollywood has hated Christians for a very long time. There's

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been active hatred, there's been sort of underground hatred. But

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Christians are blocked from being involved in the movie process

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for a grew great degree unless you make it big

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and then announce your Christian like Mark Wahlberg has done

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some other actors have done recently.

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Speaker 3: Praise God for that.

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Speaker 1: But Angel Studios is giving you and I a doorway

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into Hollywood. That is not something that's easy to achieve.

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They've done this the hard way, against headwinds and against

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efforts to stop it and censor it and in fact

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to keep it out of theaters. They released the movie

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Sound of Freedom, and you know what that did. Recently,

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they had a very successful theatrical run with a movie

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this completely different than the Sound of Freedom.

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Speaker 3: It's great.

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Speaker 1: It's called The King of Kings. It's an animated movie.

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It's based upon Charles Dickens and he's telling his son

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the story of Jesus Christ and is told in such

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a way that you and your family, your kids, your

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grandkids are going to be transported.

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Speaker 3: With this little boy.

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Speaker 1: And he's kind of a jerk, honestly, At the beginning

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of the movie, he's obsessed with King Arthur. He wants

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to cut everything's heads off, and he goes around with

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this very annoying cat. But throughout the film they all change,

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and the little boy starts to regard his sword a

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little bit differently. Towards the end of the movie, he

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regards it, frankly as trash, something to be tossed aside

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in favor of the Lord Jesus. The movie did very

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well in the theaters, but you can't watch it right

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now except for this. I'm going to give you a

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way to watch it, and then I'm going to tell

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you about this open doorway to Hollywood. Angel Studios is

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in Hollywood. They're successful, they're inviting us in. So go

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visit a Slash Todd. You'll join over one million Americans

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who are taking back control of entertainment. I'll tell you

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how in a second. When you become a Premium Angel

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Studio Guilds member, you get to watch The King of

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Kings I just mentioned that movie. You get to stream

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all their fan curated shows and movies. You get two

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free tickets to every single Angel Studios theatrical release. And

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here's the open door to Hollywood, walk through it. You

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and I with Angel Studios as a premium Guild Angel

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new movies. Our votes decide which movies they promote, make

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tell distribute. It's Angel dot com slash todd. This is

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once in a lifetime. Go take Hollywood back. Angel dot

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com slash Todd. Let's start at a big picture level here,

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because they're multifaceted attacks.

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Speaker 3: Because some of them we.

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Speaker 1: Can utterly discount that the hardcore leftist churches or sometimes

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called the gay Gospel, I refer to them as a

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sexual left because it's all tied into politics. We can

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completely dismiss people who are saying that Jesus was same

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sex attractors. Jesus was confused about his gender. This is

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what I've heard recently, when Jesus said, who am I

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and her? I've heard this. We can dismiss that as nonsense.

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It is blasphemy and it could put you in hell,

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and so we can dismiss it for now, but eventually

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it's going to land with people. So let's get down

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to a level that is harder to dismiss. So let's

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start with his generality. And this is from this book

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or this this article, really long, intense article and well written.

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I disagree with it, but I think well written Future

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Church Now by A. Greem Corrington. And a big picture

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argument he makes is the Bible does not address loving,

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monogamous same sex union or what he would call marriage.

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It only addresses predatory or overtly simply lustful you know,

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the Roman bass things, or the use of young boy

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slaveries for sexual pleasure. That it doesn't address that. And

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therefore he says, when Paul and others are writing against

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same sex activity, that's what they mean.

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Speaker 3: They don't mean a loving couple. Yeah, that's absolutely false, right,

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because in the New Testament the scriptures will say things

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like no one who is born of God continues in sin. Right,

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it doesn't actually and explicitly say what sin he's talking about.

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It's referring to sin. Well, where are the definitions of

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sin coming from the Old Testament? Right? The Old Testament

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tells us sin Leviticus in the law do not lie

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with a man as you would with the woman. Right,

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it tells you bestiality is sin. It tells you the

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standards of God in those passages of scripture. Now those

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standards continue on. Now there is a new covenant, right,

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there is a new covenant that says the law, the

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standards of righteousness are the same. But how they're taken

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care of is not through the sacrifice of lambs and goats.

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How they're taken care of is through the blood of Christ.

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And Jesus died. Those sins had required a sacrifice. Jesus

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died for those things. He paid, He's the lamb of God.

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He paid for them. And now that we know that

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they were detestable enough to God that Jesus had to

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die for them, how can we live them any longer?

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Roman Sick says, we've been baptized into Christ. Should we say,

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now that we have grace we should continue to sin?

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He says, by no means you died to sin. You

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can't live in any longer. No one is born of

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God continues in sin because from God's you've repented. You're

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like God's perspective is right. No matter what I feel,

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a sin nature. It's not the same for everybody, but

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we all have one. And giving into my sin nature

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hurts me, hurts others hurts God. It's a rebellion against

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God as king. And Jesus paid for those things. But

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now I see those things differently. They hurt me, they

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hurt others as or repentance to the heart. Therefore, I

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don't want to do them. I can't continue to do

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them when I know what they cost. But the standard

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of sin is in the Old Testament. And then if

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God somewhere along the line says, and he did in

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the New Testament, the eating laws or circumcism, or some

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of the ceremonial practices of the law no longer apply

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to gentiles. He doesn't mean, let's get rid of the

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standards of righteousness in the law in the Old Testament.

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Jesus's perspective of the Old Testament. And Jesus called the

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Old Testament God's word the law, not one daughter tittle.

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It is going to be until everything is fulfilled. Jesus,

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when he was asked about marriage divorce, he said, haven't

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you read what God said speaking of what Moses wrote?

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You know? And he goes through, there's two genders, one man,

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one woman, marriages for one man and one woman. Right,

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what God has put together, let no man put asunder.

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Jesus confirms the Old Testament center. Some people say, well,

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Jesus didn't talk about homosexuality. No, he didn't. He's not

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addressing an issue that everybody already knows the Law has

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said is sin. He is referring back to the Old

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you heard what God said in the Old Testament?

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Speaker 1: Right, Well, then Jesus also, I think, raises the bar

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the sermount of the mounts. Is this beautiful statement, But

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Jesus also raises the bar. You know you've heard it

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said you should not commit adultery. But I tell you, right,

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if you look at a woman with lust in your eyes,

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you've already talked to.

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Speaker 3: Men in the context. And he's saying, if you look

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at a woman with lest in her eyes, So you're

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you're like, okay, well it's okay to look at a

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guy with lust in your eyes, right, Because he's just

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talking about no, they misuse the scripture, and then like

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in the article, they he goes through and says, you know,

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first of all, the Old Testament was either misunderstood or

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it was Old Covenant, and then he takes the passages

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that refer to homosexuality in the New Testament and he

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redefines those passages to mean something that has it's never

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meant in two thousand years.

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Speaker 1: I want to get to that because this is this

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is I think one of the either more clever or

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smart things he says. And clever I don't mean that

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as a compliment. By the way, when we're talking about

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me this is what he said in the Bible. Well,

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if you're the only one who sees that, you probably

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Speaker 3: Your probably or that we're told to hold to the

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faith once for all delivered. If even an angel comes

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and preaches a different gospel. We were warned that false

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teachers would come and change the standards. Well, what that

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implies that what we know, Paul says, what you've seen

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in me, heard from me. You know where it came from.

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Hold to your doctrine, teaching tightly, because through it you

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will be saved in soul. Your hears there's this warning

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that the way it was understood is the way it's

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to be understood in the future. And so what they're

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doing is coming up with some new way to understand

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something in our generation that nobody understood it that way

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for two thousand years.

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Speaker 1: I know that you'll agree with me about Do you

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remember so called Reverend Fred Phelps, unbelievably hate filled man

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in my judgments, he had that said I won't say

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the website name, but God hates same sex attracted people

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dot com, very hatefield man. I had an opportunity to

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debate him briefly once on the topic of same sextraction

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and marriage. And at that time I was undiscipled, and

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I had soft pedaled myself into well God didn't address

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this and all.

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Speaker 3: So I hadn't yet studied it.

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Speaker 1: And so I called him and said, you know, it's interesting,

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Reverend Phelps, because you know, listening to you speak, I

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can't imagine you with all that long hair and long beard.

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He goes, I don't have long hair. I'm a full

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grown man. I've got a short hair cut. I go, oh, no, no, no,

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you're you have long hair because you don't clip your

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hair at the side of the temples. Right, You've grown

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it long, right, And I was quoting deuterotomy, and he

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screamed at me, I'm a man, I have.

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Speaker 3: Long I have short hair.

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Speaker 1: Only idiots and sissies have long hair. And well, wait

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a minute, you're violating deuterotomy.

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Speaker 3: Your standard is relative to other people in the hippie movement,

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right when there was a standard in the Old Testament.

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You're saying that you're not following.

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hypocrite because here you are not clipping, You're you're letting.

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the side of the temples grow. Is that what you

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mean by one of the ceremonial things that, yeah, because

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because the ten Commandments, they can the other teachings they count.

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He was preserving they didn't have the Holy Spirit. They

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would have the Holy Spirit enter into a prophet all

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scriptures God breathed right. They were carried along, but they

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didn't have the undwelling presence, and they were in a

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very hostile world. And God had something to say about

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every part of your life, food, clothing, all of it.

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And his big point was God cares about everything, and

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you're to be distinct and different than the world, right,

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and he's protecting the people in the midst of a

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broken world. And through that people, the Messiah was going

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to come and the light was going to be for

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all the nations. And so in the New Testament this

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they're referring to. Okay, yes, some things are dismissed. The sabbath.

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You're going into the Roman culture, you don't get to go.

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I will not work on Sabbath when you're a Roman slave.

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He's saying, no firstclautions too, some say I hold this

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day over that day, or this ceremony or circumstanced. No,

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all those things were a shadow of what was to come,

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which is in Christ Jesus right. So parts of the

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Old Testament Covenant were actually dismissed, the eating loss, and

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in the New Testament says they're dismissed in Acts tent

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with Peter and the food loss. What God has made clean,

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let no man say is unclean. Right, But the standards

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of righteousness are supported over and over and over again

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when it comes to like, for instance, in for Timothy,

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he says, all scripture is God breathe. Right through the scriptures,

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you became wise the salvation, and all scriptures God breeds.

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He's usedul for correcting training in righteousness. Okay, so what

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were the scriptures they were talking about. He's talking about

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Old Testament scripture at that point primarily, but then also

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the New Testament comes into play, because Jesus said the

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New Testament was going to come into play, and that

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I'm going to teach you all things Jesus said to

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his disciples and remind you of everything that I've said,

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which is why the New Testament scriptures have been accepted

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by Christians and in the canon for two thousand years. Right.

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And so here's the problem that they're facing. They're taking

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passages like Onet Corinthian six right where he talks about

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you know, don't be misled. You know you sow, you reap,

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and he goes and he says, anybody, you know, anybody

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who lives this certain way are they're not in the

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Kingdom of heaven. He gives a list of liars and purchases.

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But he also says homosexual offenders and Paul does use

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a word kind of coin, a word or a word that.

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Speaker 1: That's what I wanted to ask you about. Yeah, let

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me let me just I would have framed this with

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people in their sense. In the gay Gospel sexual le

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f they have these things they call clobber passages, right, okay,

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So any time to go to these churches, they will

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in fact often have handouts. These are klabber passages. These

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passages only exist to bat or same sex attracted people,

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or gender confused, gender defiant people, gender dysphoric people. These

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are to beat people up. That's one of the what

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they call the klobber passages. Now, this was the piece

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that I found interesting. Clever and again I don't mean

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clever in a good way, I mean in a scheming

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way or smart. This is why I wanted you here.

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And this is from this this article I've been quoting

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the Future Church. Now and he says, there's this meaning

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of the word arson quoitsya. I'm saying that the right

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arson quoita. And he says, this is Paul makes up

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this word from whole cloth, as if Paul was not

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a master of language. And Paul was a master of language.

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His contention is that this this could mean thieving, It

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could mean hiding. It could mean a lot of things,

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but it does don't necessarily mean homosexual behavior or same

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sex behavior. That's doesn't necessarily mean that. Therefore, we don't

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know that Paul meant that you are not to engage

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in same sex sexual activity.

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Speaker 3: And it's a long.

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Speaker 1: Piece and we'll go through some of the ways it's

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been translated.

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Speaker 3: As he says.

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Speaker 1: But so you agree with this writer Green Accordington that

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Paul basically coined that word or invented it.

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Speaker 3: No, I'm saying that's what they're saying. Okay, okay, And

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but again, though Paul, his understanding is the Old Testament

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is scripture. Okay, he's just reaffirming he was a pharisee. Yeah,

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he's affirming that same he's referring back to the Leviticus.

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Do not lie with a man if you're a man,

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as you would a woman. He's saying, there's sexual morality

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has a broad category. Beastiality is sexual, im morality, homosexuality

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is sexual and morality. These are all standards sex, set

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of marriage, incest. There's a whole list of categories here.

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In this case, he's naming it right, and he's saying people,

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he's literally saying men who have sex with men, and

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by the way, he reaffirms that in Romans Won talks

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about the whole process of men and women giving up

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natural ways of having sex for unnatural ways of having sex.

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And so Romans Won he's got this theme throughout all

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of it, and he's just reaffirming what has always been

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believed about sexual the boundaries that God put around sexual

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and morality. And and you know, you know, one of

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the things he talks about is sodom and how you know,

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the sin of sodom wasn't homosexuality, was a lack of hospitality, right,

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And so he he uses the story of Sodom and

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Gomorrah as a klobber passage that was misunderstood. And the

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problem is there is a passage in scripture that says

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one of the sins of Sodom and Gomorrah was a

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lack of hospitality. They were going to be homosexual offenders.

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And the way they would determine that is a homosexual

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offender is a person that this is what they would say,

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that that took advantage of children forced homosexual activity. Homosexuality,

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they would say, isn't sin the way it's always been

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understood scripturally, is a homosexual offender is the difference between

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somebody who has same sex attractions and somebody who acts

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on those same sex attractions. So, when you're talking about

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struggling with homosexuality, I don't know very many people who

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would ever want that. They don't they they've many of them.

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I've asked God a thousand times to take it away,

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or I just feel terrible. I don't it's unnatural or

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not everybody else's dealing with, so I'm bad. There are

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a lot of attractions because of sin that we have, right,

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the Bible says there's no sin that it's overtaken you.

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That's not common demand. Somebody has that struggle, and God

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provides a way of escape out homosexuality. Practicing homosexuality, offending,

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living it out is what he's talking about, not about

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forcing it on somebody who's a willing participant. They've misinterpreted

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that whole passage to mean something it didn't mean. But

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when they're talking about sodom, gomoor and inhospitality, Jude seven

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says that their problem was perverse sex. So they're they're

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ignoring the parts of the scripture that name their sin

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perverse sex. And taking one passage that talked about their inhospitality.

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So they're misusing scripture to make it mean something that

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it is never meant, to justify it, and even to

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promote it. I have if evil in my life group.

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Some of my closest friends that struggle with same sex attraction,

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they don't struggle with lust with for women. Now I

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could go well, since I have struggled with lust for

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women and do at times. Since I do that, that's

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just who I am, and so God must want me

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to act on it.

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Speaker 2: No.

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Speaker 3: Yes, in my sinful nature, I do have a problem

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based on experiences and even from the young age I

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remember and I used to beg God, take it away,

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take it away. He never did, so does that mean

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I can act on it. I have friends who have

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same sex attraction and I love them. They just deal

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with a different issue and know it's wrong for you

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to live that out and I'm sorry you have it

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and you have to reject it. You have to take

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captive thoughts, but you're just like the rest of us.

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We have to say no.

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Speaker 1: And that that's a piece I've tried so hard to

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communicate to people that I feel and I want to

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get back to this word because this this You're answering

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this very very well, and I see what he's doing here.

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So I got a surprise notice from my doc. I

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go in in every quarter I get my hormones checked,

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and Doc Jen told me you have an insulin resistance problem.

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No wait, that's a pre diabetic signal. She goes, yeah,

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it's not bad, but it's there. Everything else is perfect,

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but that's there. So we started to talk about what

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I could do with this. She agrees, I need to

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eat more fiber. But then I told her about Burberine breakthrough.

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It's biptimizers dot com slash tod promo code todbibptomizers dot

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com slash Todd Todd. But I truly believe, Jim that

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the church as a whole has aired in not communicating

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fornication and adultery with the same zeal right, because I

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think same sex attracted people. They could walk into a church.

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I mean, God has worked through you and the founders

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and the elders to build a pretty big.

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Speaker 3: Stink in church, stinking part of me, big big church. Yeah.

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Speaker 1: But but any decently intelligent human can walk into.

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Speaker 3: A big day it's Easter or whatever.

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Speaker 1: We've got you know, I don't know. I mean thousands

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of people. We have come in, three five thousand people,

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and they can look and go in that pew or

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in this pews, the seats. There are people who watch porn.

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There are women cheating on their husbands, those men cheating

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on their wives. There's hey, you think these teen boys

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over here, they're not you know, they're not collecting a

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body count. And same sex attract people.

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Speaker 3: Go. But but us, right, that's a.

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Speaker 1: Huge, much mistake the church has made. And it gives

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this guy an opportunity to take one word. And here's

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what I hear you saying. Is. Okay, you're saying Paul

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coined that word, or he's saying he did because he's

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all these different transp he's been clear.

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Speaker 3: What it meant, and he's an inspired person for the word.

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Paul's inspired. He's speaking for God. So however he used

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the language, God's guiding him in that process.

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Speaker 1: Okay, so he takes this one word, that's a classic

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red herring. Let's pay attention to this one word. But

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let's ignore Jude. Let's ignore the other ones where he

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speaks on it. Let's ignore all of that. Let's ignore

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Jesus talking about what marriage is. You know, man leaves

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his family, clings to his wife. Let's ignore the fact

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that Jesus took the adultery laws and made them harder. Right, So,

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what do you think the church as a whole should

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do knowing that God's like this are getting views. There's

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lots of books that are getting sold, there are sorrow's funded.

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Heretical church is popping up that teaches us us all

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that that they're splitting the body of Christ into these

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false teachers. What do you think the evangelical church in

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America should do to welcome same sex attracted people? Because

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we can't put up pride flags, we can't put up

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so called trans flags.

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Speaker 3: We can't do that.

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Speaker 1: We can't even sponsor human pride. God abhors pride and

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human beings. So what do you think the evangelical church.

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I'm not saying just you the pastors, but we, the body.

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How can we welcome same sex attract people say.

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Speaker 3: No, we want you here. Yeah, Well, for a couple

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of things. First of all, I would say it's a

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difficult situation. Yeah, here's why. These are people that are

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claiming to be Christians usually that are trying to justify

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and even promote sin. So what we have to do

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is go, no, it's sin, But we also have to

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say it's no worse sin than any other sin. So

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if I have a so called Christian movement out there

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that's trying to convince everybody in our church that adultery,

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sex outside of marriage, heterosex outside of marriage is okay

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and should be tried, then I would have to do

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a sermon against No, that's sin, that's sin just like

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any other sin. What's happening is there aren't a lot

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of these Christian guys doing that, creating a movement of

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you know, sex outside of marriage is good and you

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should do it. If they were, we would attack it.

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Problem is when we attack that, we're not careful how

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we say it. We just attack that. If we were

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to do that, and we let go the line to

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see gossip and everything else. The thing that Christianity should

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always do is humble us. We all have struggles of sin.

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I have problems with I've had problems with gossip. Before

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I say something I shouldn't have said, either intentionally and intentionally,

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I am say, by grace by what Jesus did, and

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I'm grateful that he forgives someone like me. Now, if

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you start a movement of gossip is good, we should

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all do it. Now I have to go no, gossip

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is bad, but I have to do it in sense

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to go hey. But we all struggle with it, and

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so is the other forms of sin. In humility, we

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have to stand up for what's right, admit that we

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don't always do what's right, but teach people that we're

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all in this process of being sanctified. We're becoming holy,

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becoming in line in maturity with what God's will is.

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We don't justify it. We don't make somebody else's sin

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worse than our sin.

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Speaker 1: So when I hear that, and I'll speak these words

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and talk about fornication, adultery, same sex activity sinful, I

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will get people who will write to me and say, Nope, nope, nope,

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same sex activity is an abomination under the Lord. It

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is very, very different from.

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Speaker 3: So here's what I would do. Go in and just google,

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go to your chat GPT, and ask, what are all

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of these sins that are an abomination? Okay? In the

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scriptures there's a lot of them. I'm guessing to lie

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is an abomination? Okay, Okay, so they're taking, So.

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Speaker 1: They are taking, they are making a clopper passage. Yeah,

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in that case, in that case, right, And I would go, well,

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let's talk about all the things that are an abomination.

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My goal is not to say lying is okay.

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Speaker 3: My goal is to say, let's be consistent. Sin separates

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us from God.

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Speaker 2: Right.

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Speaker 3: My goal is not to make uh I when I

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say homosexuality sin, I'm not. I want to be careful.

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I want to say I know that some of you

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have battled with same sex attraction the way I battle

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with other sins. We all battle. We can't say it's okay,

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we have to, with the Lord's help, say no to

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it and walk away. You you don't may not have

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the same one I have, and I'm glad you have

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a different one though, and I'm sad. And so how

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do we walk away from sin? And again these folks

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who want to take a passage and act it's hypocrisy, right,

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And that's just as much of a sin.

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Speaker 2: Now.

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Speaker 3: You know what people do is they use Romans chapter one,

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and they do and it says that they would not

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glorify God. They worship creating things instead of the Creator.

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And it talks about they even went so far as

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to exchange natural sex for unnatural sex. Right, he's talking

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about a culture that slides into corruption and moves away

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from natural law. They're rejecting what's even embedded in nature. Right.

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But his goal there is to say you actually move

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away from even natural things, even what the natural law says,

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to move into justifying what is unnatural, as though there

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are no borders whatsoever.

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Speaker 1: When one can you know, look at what you could

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I guess secularists, materiallests would call human biology true. That's

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how we explain God's design. But you can look at

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the way our bodies fit together, male and female, the

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progrative process, and you can intuitively say, oh, this is

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designed right, so we can get from that natural nature.

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You can look at the results of repeated same sex

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acts that can and then you know injury and and

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changing the body of disease, et cetera. That does not

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happen to the same degree, if at all, in opposite

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sex activity, particularly in marriage, because you know STDs et cetera.

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So let me throw this idea out at you. Our

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church had an event. You brought Christopher one in the

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Great Author. He struggled in the worst ways with same

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sex attraction and activity and drug dealing. And you're the

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guy who taught me the you can choose your sin

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but natural accountability. And he's got some accountability, but his parents,

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primarily his mom, prayed him out of that.

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Speaker 3: He came. You had an event. All we did the.

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Speaker 1: Whole I think three days of looking at holy sexuality

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and with some other cultural issues. I would love to

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see the evangelical world promote a sexual purity week, starting

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with how how how can we view pornography? How can

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we use the tools of the Bible for people who

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addicted to porn? What disease is shows how do we

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take that thought captive? What do we do If you

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have broken your marriage with adultery, how can you put

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it back together? How can we forgive if you are fornicating? Right,

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how can you end this behavior? And if you have

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same sex attraction? How can you deal with it? Where

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are some success stories? You know those guys were at

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the Pulse nightclub shooting and they bribed and God delivered

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them and there now they go out and speak in public. Hey,

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we were active in the same sex attracted community. We're

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actively having homosexual relations and God changed us.

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Speaker 3: And well, sometimes God takes away Usually God doesn't take

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away my attractions. Well, like for me, I don't practice

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adultery or fornication. I don't practice looking at porn. Yeah, okay,

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I My problem was is is you know you have

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memories of what you did and that you wish you

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didn't and you have to say, well, man, that's terrible.

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I don't like it. I don't want it. I take

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that thought captive. But God's never gone. You know what,

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I'm not going to make you attracted to women that

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never has happened. I have to say no when it's

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out of alignment with God's word, it's not. It's not

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with my wife, I have to say I don't. And

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so a lot of these guys who have same sex attraction,

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they may never and most of them don't all of

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a sudden become attracted to women. Not saying they do it.

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Speaker 1: I'm not saying pray the gayaway, which is the club

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or passage they use it us. I'm saying, in the

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case of Pulse Nightclub, that happened to those men, and.

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Speaker 3: In those cases it did right, and with Christopher, you

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on right.

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Speaker 1: And I'm saying that I think God came and said, hey,

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I can do anything. You survive this because I'm gonna

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use you.

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Speaker 2: Now.

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Speaker 1: What I'm talking about is an event where we take

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all those temptations of the flesh and we speak to

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them from a Christian perspective. And simply, my hope would

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be this, Jim, that same sex attracted people in our

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community who will not enter a true Christian church. They

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want the one with the pride flag. They want the

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false heretical churches. They might look and go, wow, these

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guys have put what they consider my sin almost actually

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in the middle of their week, not at the beginning right,

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it's one day. Right, They've got five days focusing on

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this stuff. And wait, they struggle to This is where

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I think we have failed is to say, look, if.

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Speaker 3: You're a human, you struggle with sin. Yeah, and it's

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not all the same sin, right. Right.

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Speaker 1: My friend Tim Krukshank served, He did three tours on

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get the notes occasionally you mean Corman. No, I'll let

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Tim describe how he's described. He's the one who did

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the deployments. After that he became a BUDS instructor, So

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Speaker 3: You see in our church we have we have a

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ton of celibate same sex attraction people in Idaho in

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leading right. And when we talk about sex, we want

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to we don't just talk about uh, homosexuality. We talk

706
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about sex any outside of any of the way that

707
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Jesus says, God's word says it should be it's sin

708
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to go outside those boundaries. Pornography is sin, So it

709
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doesn't have to be an event, although I don't have

710
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a problem with the event, it should just be when

711
00:40:17,639 --> 00:40:20,360
we talk about it. If we're going to highlight on

712
00:40:20,360 --> 00:40:24,280
one thing, we say why we're highlighting on it. We're saying,

713
00:40:24,880 --> 00:40:27,559
here's a new argument out there, here's what people are

714
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saying to promote this, and here's what Before we do that,

715
00:40:33,320 --> 00:40:36,280
let me just say a couple of things, right. First

716
00:40:36,320 --> 00:40:38,719
of all, we're highlighting on not because it's worse than

717
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those of you are struggling with porn, and not because

718
00:40:41,679 --> 00:40:44,719
it's worse than those of you have an affair or

719
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I just want you to know we're going to talk

720
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about this, but if you're having sex with somebody you're

721
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not married with, if you're looking at porn, it's sin

722
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and it can send you to hell. Practice in that

723
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just as fat as practicing homosexuality can. So I'm going

724
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to be an equal opportunity offender not to offend. To

725
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call you out.

726
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Speaker 1: You mean, do you are going to equally opportunity You're

727
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going to offend people equally?

728
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Speaker 3: Yeah, you're going to yourself for not going to be

729
00:41:14,599 --> 00:41:16,360
an offender. So what I don't want to do is

730
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I want you to go get your eyes off of

731
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a sin that you don't get struggled with. So it's

732
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the worst one.

733
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Speaker 1: Right, Well that's the you know, I see that in

734
00:41:25,119 --> 00:41:29,440
society all the time where people are man, look at

735
00:41:29,480 --> 00:41:31,960
that that dude dressed like a woman, look at that

736
00:41:32,079 --> 00:41:35,480
sinth hold on, Well they got whither they're drunk or

737
00:41:35,519 --> 00:41:39,280
they're drunk, or they that that morning their kid, you know,

738
00:41:39,599 --> 00:41:41,840
got chest to chest and they smack their kids or

739
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or or whatever sin it is. Or I'm just thinking

740
00:41:44,679 --> 00:41:46,519
them on their phone and go ooh, my porn hub

741
00:41:46,559 --> 00:41:50,000
refreshed you right right, and and but I'm not doing

742
00:41:50,039 --> 00:41:51,880
anything to anybody. See this is the other thing that

743
00:41:51,920 --> 00:41:56,960
these the gay gospel preachers do is they will say, okay, Jim,

744
00:41:57,079 --> 00:42:01,039
you talked about beast reality. That's forcing an animal. You

745
00:42:01,079 --> 00:42:04,000
can't force an animal to do that. And you've spoken

746
00:42:04,079 --> 00:42:08,039
of you know, stealing, you're taking from something from somebody.

747
00:42:08,440 --> 00:42:12,320
And their closing argument is very often this, it is

748
00:42:12,480 --> 00:42:16,320
very often, we're not harming anybody. See that's the difference, Todd,

749
00:42:16,400 --> 00:42:19,760
is we're not harming anybody, and they will give sermon

750
00:42:19,800 --> 00:42:24,199
after sermon in this is remember we love just differently. Yeah,

751
00:42:24,199 --> 00:42:26,480
and God is harming anybody would say this.

752
00:42:26,760 --> 00:42:32,079
Speaker 3: That argument kind of triggers me because my son, when

753
00:42:32,119 --> 00:42:35,599
he was doing drugs as an adult, would say, I'm

754
00:42:35,679 --> 00:42:41,480
not hurting anybody, and I would go, no, you're breaking

755
00:42:41,519 --> 00:42:46,599
my heart by hurting yourself. I would say, you're buying

756
00:42:46,599 --> 00:42:49,920
a drug so somebody has money to sell a drug

757
00:42:49,960 --> 00:42:55,000
to somebody else. Ods, you're you're you're impacting the people

758
00:42:55,079 --> 00:42:58,800
love you, You're impacting God who made you. You're harming

759
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yourself eternally. If the Bible is true, then there's a

760
00:43:03,360 --> 00:43:08,079
consequence to saying no to God. In the garden. You

761
00:43:08,079 --> 00:43:09,800
know if you do this tree, you will surely die.

762
00:43:10,719 --> 00:43:14,800
There is a consequence to saying no to your creator

763
00:43:15,760 --> 00:43:17,800
and say no, I will do what I want to do,

764
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not what you want to do. That's the part that

765
00:43:23,039 --> 00:43:25,719
we don't understand. The sin in the garden was a

766
00:43:25,760 --> 00:43:29,440
sin of rebellion against the Creator, and he said, if

767
00:43:29,480 --> 00:43:32,519
you do this, you're choosing to be your own king

768
00:43:32,960 --> 00:43:35,400
instead of doing what I ask you to do. Now,

769
00:43:35,440 --> 00:43:38,440
as that happened, it's like a virus that's spread to

770
00:43:38,559 --> 00:43:41,039
impact it every part, and it just kept getting worse

771
00:43:41,079 --> 00:43:44,000
and worse and worse as we invented new ways to

772
00:43:44,079 --> 00:43:48,000
follow our own sinful nature. And so when people say

773
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we're not hurting anybody, you know, like I've had a

774
00:43:51,599 --> 00:43:56,199
guy who said I'm not hurting Anyboddy because I'm with

775
00:43:56,320 --> 00:44:01,920
my husband, right, And I said, well, well you have kids, right,

776
00:44:02,440 --> 00:44:07,000
Well yeah you were married before. Well yeah, you left

777
00:44:07,079 --> 00:44:10,800
your wife and your kids to go marry somebody else

778
00:44:10,840 --> 00:44:15,880
to follow your own heart and it impacted your kids.

779
00:44:17,599 --> 00:44:22,000
You can't send yourself and not hurt somebody else. And

780
00:44:22,039 --> 00:44:27,920
so that's a fabrication. It's a justification of I got

781
00:44:27,920 --> 00:44:30,800
to care about me. They'll get over it, and it's

782
00:44:30,800 --> 00:44:33,719
a rebellion against the creator who made us. And so yeah,

783
00:44:33,760 --> 00:44:36,599
it hurts you, It hurts everybody. And my son used

784
00:44:36,639 --> 00:44:39,440
to say that I'm not doing anything to any of you,

785
00:44:39,440 --> 00:44:42,559
you know, just love me anyway. Well I will love you,

786
00:44:42,880 --> 00:44:44,519
but I'm not going to let you stay at my house.

787
00:44:45,199 --> 00:44:48,440
Well why because your brothers are watching you. Yeah.

788
00:44:48,920 --> 00:44:52,920
Speaker 1: I've had this conversation with some friends close to me.

789
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And as we wrap this up with Jim Putman and

790
00:44:56,960 --> 00:45:00,840
we had not to this depth at all, but a

791
00:45:00,880 --> 00:45:04,239
conversation about same sex attraction. Because I'm challenging myself, I'm

792
00:45:04,280 --> 00:45:05,880
going to the library and renting books.

793
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Speaker 3: I want to.

794
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Speaker 1: Read the most difficult arguments against the biblical view of

795
00:45:11,719 --> 00:45:14,400
same sex attraction. I want to read the most persuasive

796
00:45:15,239 --> 00:45:19,039
Christians should affirm this argument, because I really I want

797
00:45:19,079 --> 00:45:21,320
to challenge myself in this way. So I've been reaching

798
00:45:21,320 --> 00:45:24,320
out to people with whom I know I disagree. And

799
00:45:24,360 --> 00:45:29,800
one person said to me, this, what about love thy neighbor?

800
00:45:31,840 --> 00:45:32,880
Where does that come into this?

801
00:45:33,239 --> 00:45:33,480
Speaker 3: Yeah?

802
00:45:33,519 --> 00:45:35,639
Speaker 1: And so go back to love, right, And so what

803
00:45:35,679 --> 00:45:38,280
I've what I've adopted now is yeah, what does love mean?

804
00:45:38,719 --> 00:45:40,519
And I've told you on a go forward basis, that's

805
00:45:40,519 --> 00:45:42,000
going to be my response. Let's make sure we're talking

806
00:45:42,000 --> 00:45:42,679
about the same love.

807
00:45:44,199 --> 00:45:44,440
Speaker 2: Yeah.

808
00:45:44,519 --> 00:45:47,840
Speaker 3: Let's say if God's Agapollo, God created love, Yeah, love

809
00:45:47,920 --> 00:45:49,719
thy neighbor. Then he defines it in First Court the

810
00:45:49,960 --> 00:45:54,920
thirteen and says love does not rejoice with unrighteousness. Right, Okay,

811
00:45:55,039 --> 00:45:57,920
that's love. So love is not to give you. Love

812
00:45:58,079 --> 00:46:00,320
is not to give your kids what they think they

813
00:46:00,320 --> 00:46:02,800
want with the mind they have at the age they're

814
00:46:02,800 --> 00:46:07,079
at Okay, we are so far below God at the

815
00:46:07,119 --> 00:46:10,559
thinking level. We can actually think some things are good

816
00:46:11,239 --> 00:46:15,039
and they're bad because of how limited we are in

817
00:46:15,079 --> 00:46:19,079
our perspective. Same for the kids. Your kid wants something

818
00:46:19,840 --> 00:46:22,280
and they because our friends have it, they in their

819
00:46:22,400 --> 00:46:26,360
limited experience, think it's good. You, as a parent's job

820
00:46:26,480 --> 00:46:29,079
is not to go well. I'll affirm that to a

821
00:46:29,079 --> 00:46:32,280
two year old who sees the golden glow of the

822
00:46:32,480 --> 00:46:36,039
oven or the stove right, and I want to touch that.

823
00:46:37,119 --> 00:46:40,039
And no, if I love you, I am not going

824
00:46:40,079 --> 00:46:42,199
to give you what you think you want with your

825
00:46:42,280 --> 00:46:43,559
limited experience.

826
00:46:43,960 --> 00:46:48,920
Speaker 1: Yes, and this is again it goes to this magnifying

827
00:46:49,519 --> 00:46:52,920
same sex attraction. I think from the eventical church that's

828
00:46:52,960 --> 00:46:56,239
the special sin. And then a consequence is the sexual

829
00:46:56,320 --> 00:46:59,559
left has a pushback against us. See what they're saying,

830
00:46:59,599 --> 00:47:02,079
we're her, we are and they'll use that love thing.

831
00:47:02,320 --> 00:47:04,880
But here's what we can agree to. I think I

832
00:47:04,920 --> 00:47:08,519
think we can agree even with the sexual left.

833
00:47:09,360 --> 00:47:10,159
Speaker 3: Love does not lie.

834
00:47:11,039 --> 00:47:15,800
Speaker 1: You cannot have a loving relationship based upon lies. You

835
00:47:15,880 --> 00:47:19,440
cannot have a loving relationship. If someone says to you,

836
00:47:19,480 --> 00:47:22,159
do you think I should take a beer bong and

837
00:47:22,159 --> 00:47:24,320
pour everclear into it and swallow the whole thing.

838
00:47:25,280 --> 00:47:27,360
Speaker 3: I don't think so, because that's going to love me

839
00:47:28,480 --> 00:47:30,519
right right. Well, it's the same with the transgender issue,

840
00:47:30,599 --> 00:47:34,519
right yeh, you have gender dysphoria. These are real feelings with.

841
00:47:34,559 --> 00:47:38,239
Speaker 1: Some Sometimes it's gender rebellion. Yes, okay, so gender dysphoya

842
00:47:38,440 --> 00:47:38,800
is real.

843
00:47:38,840 --> 00:47:40,960
Speaker 3: It's existed for a long time. And you think you

844
00:47:41,159 --> 00:47:47,440
think you're being a good parent by backing a confused, hurting,

845
00:47:48,000 --> 00:47:52,480
or rebellious kid to do something that's going to change

846
00:47:52,559 --> 00:47:55,679
their life. And when they come out of the craziness,

847
00:47:55,760 --> 00:47:59,199
which they do, and they're left with something you help

848
00:47:59,280 --> 00:48:05,519
them do that hurt them. This is the that that

849
00:48:05,679 --> 00:48:10,159
is not love. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

850
00:48:10,199 --> 00:48:12,280
Speaker 1: There was a great piece I saw on Twitter the

851
00:48:12,320 --> 00:48:15,760
other day, which sometimes has great material. This woman wrote

852
00:48:16,239 --> 00:48:19,760
and apart me, it was a it was a man

853
00:48:20,159 --> 00:48:23,159
who pretends to be a woman, and he wrote this

854
00:48:23,559 --> 00:48:27,800
statement about I cannot believe the cost I had to

855
00:48:27,800 --> 00:48:31,559
pay to get these stupid tattoos removed. This should be illegal,

856
00:48:31,599 --> 00:48:33,920
this should have to be covered by insurance and this

857
00:48:34,039 --> 00:48:36,960
long rant and showed a picture of the tattoo this

858
00:48:37,000 --> 00:48:38,960
man pretending to be a woman want to remove, and

859
00:48:39,000 --> 00:48:40,440
a guy wrote back he said, Wait, do you mean

860
00:48:40,480 --> 00:48:43,280
to tell me that you regret the decision you made

861
00:48:43,280 --> 00:48:45,840
for your body when you were seventeen years old?

862
00:48:46,599 --> 00:48:46,880
Speaker 3: Great?

863
00:48:47,519 --> 00:48:50,000
Speaker 1: Yeah, right, And this is the same push in person

864
00:48:50,360 --> 00:48:52,599
pushing these procedures for kids, et cetera.

865
00:48:53,119 --> 00:48:54,840
Speaker 3: Well, those of us who have dealt with kids who

866
00:48:54,840 --> 00:48:58,840
have been a illness, which I have same, there are

867
00:48:58,880 --> 00:49:02,960
times where they should not be allowed. I mean they shouldn't.

868
00:49:03,400 --> 00:49:05,480
I agree that that there should be an age in

869
00:49:05,480 --> 00:49:08,559
which a kid should drink the cold, should be allowed

870
00:49:08,559 --> 00:49:10,679
to drink. I mean, there's an age in which a

871
00:49:10,719 --> 00:49:13,440
kid should be allowed to buy a gun. There's an

872
00:49:13,480 --> 00:49:15,519
age in which a kid should be sent off to war.

873
00:49:16,679 --> 00:49:19,719
There's not an age that we have to make sure

874
00:49:19,880 --> 00:49:23,159
they're making wise decisions when they're young. But it comes

875
00:49:23,199 --> 00:49:28,679
down to this whole belief of you. You know, you

876
00:49:28,800 --> 00:49:32,519
have your own vision and dream about what who you are,

877
00:49:32,639 --> 00:49:36,000
and everybody else's job is to help you achieve your

878
00:49:36,119 --> 00:49:40,119
personal goal for life. And the problem is the Bible

879
00:49:40,159 --> 00:49:42,280
says our heart is the most wicked of all things.

880
00:49:42,840 --> 00:49:45,440
We're broken. We don't lean on our own understanding anymore

881
00:49:45,480 --> 00:49:47,960
because it's limited. I don't see the whole picture. I

882
00:49:48,000 --> 00:49:51,639
can eat or not eat something that impacts my thinking.

883
00:49:52,239 --> 00:49:54,480
I can drink or not drink something. I can have

884
00:49:54,599 --> 00:49:58,320
things that happen. And we're so concerned about our own

885
00:49:58,360 --> 00:50:00,880
perspective and everybody else given me what I think I want,

886
00:50:00,920 --> 00:50:05,840
and that's love. That is destruction for anybody who does

887
00:50:05,880 --> 00:50:09,679
this for any attraction they're dealing with, right, right, firmly,

888
00:50:09,719 --> 00:50:10,599
firmly agree.

889
00:50:10,840 --> 00:50:13,840
Speaker 1: So our retirement accounts and our retirement future are about

890
00:50:13,840 --> 00:50:18,039
to change again. If President Trump's the first president to

891
00:50:18,039 --> 00:50:20,960
have these limits placed upon him, then what other limits

892
00:50:20,960 --> 00:50:21,880
are they willing to place?

893
00:50:22,119 --> 00:50:22,880
Speaker 3: How much are they.

894
00:50:22,760 --> 00:50:24,880
Speaker 1: Willing to do to maintain the Deep States control of

895
00:50:24,880 --> 00:50:27,559
our finances over the international.

896
00:50:27,039 --> 00:50:28,519
Speaker 3: Order they call it.

897
00:50:28,519 --> 00:50:30,719
Speaker 1: It doesn't matter in one way because we're gonna have

898
00:50:30,760 --> 00:50:33,440
to retire anyway. That is, if you want to retire

899
00:50:33,519 --> 00:50:36,760
or can. What does matter is to make sure that

900
00:50:36,800 --> 00:50:39,639
you are not exposed to massive risk because of these headwinds.

901
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And that's what we're facing, a headwind of just high

902
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high waves and sees. So go get a free no

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obligation consultation with Zach Abraham, my friend brother. He's on

904
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our show every week on Friday, just but every week

905
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he will take three.

906
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Speaker 3: Meetings with you.

907
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Speaker 1: First is getting to know you, because if you're going

908
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gonna spend time together. You're gonna want to see eye

912
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to eye on some things. Zach has said on our program.

913
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He said people come to him and say, hey, look,

914
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why do you make all these conservative statements, in these

915
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Christian statements, you're driving away half your potential client base.

916
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917
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918
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I'm not gonna like them. We're not going to agree

919
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923
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which in Zach's definition, means you know exactly how much

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942
00:52:28,920 --> 00:52:33,000
an agnostic and and I was getting all sorts of

943
00:52:34,400 --> 00:52:37,039
attention for being notorious.

944
00:52:36,519 --> 00:52:37,920
Speaker 3: Talk show hosts back in the day.

945
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Speaker 1: So I had some really really loyal, you know, listeners

946
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to the program and some obsessive ones.

947
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Speaker 3: And I was notorious.

948
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Speaker 1: And that was fun because I go in public and

949
00:52:48,320 --> 00:52:50,239
you know, people in sul like city, Oh that's that guy.

950
00:52:50,320 --> 00:52:52,559
And I had the long hair and all that stuff.

951
00:52:52,599 --> 00:52:59,440
And I this very unethical psychiatrist put me on prozac

952
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after two meetings. So I went on the prozac. And

953
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the time I was dating a woman who neglected to

954
00:53:07,039 --> 00:53:12,440
tell me she wasn't quite divorced yet. And this is,

955
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you know, so long ago, praise God. And by the way,

956
00:53:16,039 --> 00:53:19,079
obviously I'm deeply ashamed of it, clearly, So I'm in

957
00:53:19,199 --> 00:53:22,519
this mess. This guy puts me in this prozac and

958
00:53:22,880 --> 00:53:28,280
I go and become suicidal. So it occurred to me,

959
00:53:28,920 --> 00:53:33,519
nothing's going to get better. Ever, this is always gonna suck.

960
00:53:33,559 --> 00:53:34,760
I'm away was going to be sad, and here I

961
00:53:34,760 --> 00:53:37,599
am with I mean, from my age, the money I.

962
00:53:37,559 --> 00:53:40,039
Speaker 3: Was taking in Canada, we'll give you drugs to injury,

963
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so I know.

964
00:53:40,960 --> 00:53:45,400
Speaker 1: And I'm like I had sponsors who I could roll

965
00:53:45,480 --> 00:53:47,320
up to their business and say, hey, I haven't charged

966
00:53:47,320 --> 00:53:47,840
you in a little while.

967
00:53:47,840 --> 00:53:49,679
Speaker 3: They'd had me three grand in cash. Here you go.

968
00:53:51,480 --> 00:53:53,760
Speaker 1: In a way, it's a dream world. So I was

969
00:53:53,800 --> 00:53:56,360
so sick in the head that I called my mom.

970
00:53:57,920 --> 00:53:59,239
I said, hey, I need to tell you something, and

971
00:53:59,280 --> 00:54:01,960
I laid out the case. Things aren't going to get better,

972
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and there's kind of emotionally removed.

973
00:54:04,480 --> 00:54:05,480
Speaker 3: So I've just reached the.

974
00:54:05,440 --> 00:54:08,719
Speaker 1: Conclusion that I'm going to end my life. And my

975
00:54:08,800 --> 00:54:12,559
mom said, the wisest thing she goes is that something

976
00:54:12,559 --> 00:54:17,400
you have to do today. Maybe you could park it

977
00:54:17,440 --> 00:54:20,639
for like a two weeks, maybe schedule that to do

978
00:54:20,719 --> 00:54:22,159
in two weeks.

979
00:54:23,360 --> 00:54:23,639
Speaker 3: I guess.

980
00:54:23,679 --> 00:54:26,760
Speaker 1: So I guess I have to do it today, you know,

981
00:54:27,960 --> 00:54:31,079
schedule for two weeks out. That's a pretty brave thing

982
00:54:31,119 --> 00:54:34,760
to say, pretty wise. And so I go to work

983
00:54:34,760 --> 00:54:39,559
the next day, get off the air, and the admin

984
00:54:40,360 --> 00:54:40,559
A K.

985
00:54:40,960 --> 00:54:43,159
Speaker 3: Said, Hey, Todd, some people in the lobby to see you.

986
00:54:43,639 --> 00:54:45,199
Speaker 1: And I go out and there's members of my family,

987
00:54:45,280 --> 00:54:48,880
my dad and another person for my family standing in

988
00:54:48,920 --> 00:54:53,199
the lobby. And my dad hated flying. Jim he was

989
00:54:53,239 --> 00:54:55,559
a huge, very large man, hated flying.

990
00:54:55,960 --> 00:54:56,599
Speaker 3: He flew down.

991
00:54:57,719 --> 00:54:58,920
Speaker 1: I went out in the lobby, go how long are

992
00:54:58,920 --> 00:55:00,719
you guys here? My dad said, until you get your

993
00:55:00,719 --> 00:55:04,280
head right. And I hadn't been on those pills very long,

994
00:55:04,360 --> 00:55:06,079
so I was able to go off those pills and

995
00:55:06,079 --> 00:55:09,360
that changed a lot of things. And so I would

996
00:55:09,400 --> 00:55:15,360
say to the sexual left and people of that that mindset,

997
00:55:16,320 --> 00:55:19,079
my mom could have said, you know what, I love

998
00:55:19,119 --> 00:55:22,559
you and I affirm your decision because you made a good, strong,

999
00:55:22,599 --> 00:55:23,480
intellectual case.

1000
00:55:24,159 --> 00:55:26,320
Speaker 3: But instead she didn't say.

1001
00:55:26,360 --> 00:55:28,760
Speaker 1: By the way, when I get off this phone, I'm

1002
00:55:28,760 --> 00:55:30,440
calling your dad and some other people.

1003
00:55:31,159 --> 00:55:33,679
Speaker 3: Right, she did the right things. I would say this

1004
00:55:33,760 --> 00:55:37,400
to these folks when I say no, that's not who

1005
00:55:37,440 --> 00:55:40,800
you are, well, they'll say, oh, no, God made this way.

1006
00:55:40,840 --> 00:55:42,760
What do you mean this. I say, no, God didn't

1007
00:55:42,800 --> 00:55:45,119
make you that way. The world became a fallen place

1008
00:55:45,159 --> 00:55:48,519
and we got we all caught this disease called the

1009
00:55:48,559 --> 00:55:51,960
sinful nature. You have it. That's not how God made you.

1010
00:55:52,320 --> 00:55:54,519
That's what we became because of sin. And God's going

1011
00:55:54,559 --> 00:55:59,320
to restore you if you'll let him ultimately in heaven. Yeah,

1012
00:55:59,400 --> 00:56:02,199
not here, but he's going to help you deal with

1013
00:56:02,320 --> 00:56:09,199
and manage. And so I would say, we care about you,

1014
00:56:09,360 --> 00:56:11,320
we love you. Now. I'm sorry. There are people out

1015
00:56:11,320 --> 00:56:14,280
there in Jesus' name who are not saying what Jesus

1016
00:56:14,320 --> 00:56:19,880
would say. Don't reject Jesus for what some idiot said

1017
00:56:19,880 --> 00:56:24,920
about him or in his name. Yeah, Jesus's voice was

1018
00:56:24,960 --> 00:56:29,199
I love you, Come and follow me and go and

1019
00:56:29,239 --> 00:56:31,159
sin no more, but I'm going to help you go

1020
00:56:31,239 --> 00:56:32,719
in cinema. No, he didn't mean you're never going to

1021
00:56:32,760 --> 00:56:35,480
sin againy ment, no turn away from that follow me.

1022
00:56:35,519 --> 00:56:37,079
I have something better for you. I have life and

1023
00:56:37,119 --> 00:56:39,199
life to the full. And yes, down here, it's a

1024
00:56:39,199 --> 00:56:41,800
battle with your sinful nature and your thoughts and your

1025
00:56:41,840 --> 00:56:44,920
old life. And sometimes you have to have for me.

1026
00:56:45,000 --> 00:56:46,639
I have to have friends that I to share and

1027
00:56:46,679 --> 00:56:48,960
remind me who I am, and remind me the upper story,

1028
00:56:49,000 --> 00:56:51,039
because I'm so locked into the right here, right now,

1029
00:56:51,039 --> 00:56:55,719
and the devil's whispering so loud to me, and it

1030
00:56:55,760 --> 00:56:58,280
seems like it's true because it's the voice in my head,

1031
00:56:58,400 --> 00:57:00,960
and we can't we don't know it. See enemy, there's

1032
00:57:00,960 --> 00:57:03,119
a devil. We don't know that we have a sinful nature.

1033
00:57:03,480 --> 00:57:05,639
We don't know even what the voice of God is,

1034
00:57:06,320 --> 00:57:08,360
and we need to have other people help us. But

1035
00:57:08,400 --> 00:57:11,639
I want you to know, if you're struggling with same

1036
00:57:11,679 --> 00:57:14,039
sex attraction, or you've given in and you've done gone

1037
00:57:14,079 --> 00:57:16,920
down that road, Jesus wants to save you. He loves you.

1038
00:57:17,119 --> 00:57:19,000
He'll take you just as you are, and he'll make

1039
00:57:19,039 --> 00:57:21,360
something else out of you. He's done that for me,

1040
00:57:21,440 --> 00:57:24,159
he'll do it for you. We may not have to

1041
00:57:24,159 --> 00:57:27,119
come from the same place, but he'll take us to

1042
00:57:27,159 --> 00:57:31,599
the same place. You know, new Heaven, new Earth, and

1043
00:57:31,800 --> 00:57:34,000
so I'm sorry people have done that to you. And

1044
00:57:34,039 --> 00:57:37,719
for those of you who walk around who are saying

1045
00:57:37,800 --> 00:57:42,400
things like God hates this particular person, or that he

1046
00:57:42,480 --> 00:57:45,039
hates sin and he wants to save us from it,

1047
00:57:45,280 --> 00:57:48,079
and those who reject him and won't allow him to

1048
00:57:48,159 --> 00:57:52,239
save us both salvation save us from the consequences of

1049
00:57:52,280 --> 00:57:55,000
sin and save us from the power of sin. If

1050
00:57:55,000 --> 00:57:57,079
you won't let him do that, then God will judge,

1051
00:57:57,079 --> 00:57:59,199
but he doesn't want to. He waits to return because

1052
00:57:59,199 --> 00:58:01,639
he wants you, no matter where you are, what you've done,

1053
00:58:02,000 --> 00:58:03,960
to surrender to him and say, Lord, take me.

1054
00:58:04,199 --> 00:58:06,880
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's well said, Jim, really well said. Thank you,

1055
00:58:06,920 --> 00:58:08,760
my friend. Always pleasure to have you on.

1056
00:58:09,519 --> 00:58:11,199
Speaker 3: Thank you. This is a Todd Herman show.

1057
00:58:11,239 --> 00:58:13,559
Speaker 1: Please go, be well, be strong, be kind, and if

1058
00:58:13,599 --> 00:58:16,360
you haven't done it yet, make this the day that

1059
00:58:16,440 --> 00:58:19,719
you asked Jesus Christ to come and save you. Just

1060
00:58:19,760 --> 00:58:22,480
recognize him as your savior, ask him to come in

1061
00:58:22,519 --> 00:58:24,760
your art, ask him to take control of your life

1062
00:58:24,880 --> 00:58:26,400
and knock and you will receive