WEBVTT 1 00:00:07.080 --> 00:00:10.679 Well, joining us now our doctors Mark and Sam Bailey 2 00:00:11.320 --> 00:00:14.080 Sam short for Samantha, and you can find their website 3 00:00:14.119 --> 00:00:17.679 at doctor Sambailey dot com. They've put it in her 4 00:00:17.760 --> 00:00:22.079 name because although they're both doctors, she was on TV 5 00:00:22.280 --> 00:00:25.120 in New Zealand and so she started asking some uncomfortable 6 00:00:25.239 --> 00:00:28.600 questions of the establishment. And so I had them on 7 00:00:28.719 --> 00:00:30.760 about a year ago and we were talking about their 8 00:00:30.760 --> 00:00:34.280 book at the time, was The Final Pandemic, and they 9 00:00:34.280 --> 00:00:37.320 were pointing out they were questioning all of virology, which 10 00:00:37.359 --> 00:00:39.240 is what they've done that's got them in a lot 11 00:00:39.280 --> 00:00:41.479 of trouble in New Zealand. And so I want to 12 00:00:41.479 --> 00:00:43.759 get caught up as to what's happening in New Zealand, 13 00:00:44.200 --> 00:00:46.399 and I like to get their comments on what's happening 14 00:00:46.399 --> 00:00:50.600 in America as the pharmaceutical industry is getting pretty desperate 15 00:00:50.640 --> 00:00:53.280 to defend vaccines and so we're starting to get these 16 00:00:53.359 --> 00:00:57.840 narratives about measles epidemics and I know that they're skeptical 17 00:00:57.880 --> 00:01:00.439 of that as I am as well. So thank you 18 00:01:00.439 --> 00:01:05.200 for joining us, doctors Mark and Sam Bailey. Thank you, 19 00:01:05.239 --> 00:01:05.799 good to have you. 20 00:01:05.920 --> 00:01:09.000 Thank you, David, pleasure to be here. And yeah, I 21 00:01:09.040 --> 00:01:09.840 think you're quite right. 22 00:01:10.760 --> 00:01:13.680 Sam in particular has been in some more hot water 23 00:01:13.719 --> 00:01:17.040 here in New Zealand, and last year she unexpectedly had 24 00:01:17.079 --> 00:01:21.159 her bank accounts frozen. Really yes, and then we had 25 00:01:21.159 --> 00:01:24.519 the authorities trying to seize some of our family assets 26 00:01:24.640 --> 00:01:30.439 because apparently Samo's them money for COVID crimes. She's even 27 00:01:30.480 --> 00:01:33.719 been charged here in New Zealand with COVID nineteen. That's 28 00:01:33.719 --> 00:01:36.599 apparently that's a charge that they can bring against you. 29 00:01:36.719 --> 00:01:40.079 And anyway, well I used it like everybody now, so 30 00:01:40.159 --> 00:01:41.599 I guess I could use it to like you up. 31 00:01:41.680 --> 00:01:44.319 So they actually have a charge called COVID nineteen. What 32 00:01:44.719 --> 00:01:45.680 does that involved. 33 00:01:46.400 --> 00:01:52.040 It's for the in the medical world. That's when they 34 00:01:52.079 --> 00:01:54.959 had their fake kind of kangaroo court tribunal about me. 35 00:01:55.599 --> 00:02:00.760 That's what they charged me with was COVID nineteen. So yeah, 36 00:02:00.799 --> 00:02:03.719 but they said they are I owe a lot of 37 00:02:03.719 --> 00:02:07.280 money because of my thought crimes and yeah, and they 38 00:02:07.359 --> 00:02:09.879 de banked me and that took I had to go 39 00:02:09.919 --> 00:02:13.159 into court to fight it and that was quite full on. 40 00:02:14.919 --> 00:02:18.479 Yeah, it was just it was really disruptive for several months, David, 41 00:02:18.520 --> 00:02:20.960 but it was Sam had a good result. She took 42 00:02:21.000 --> 00:02:24.400 them into the High Court and it was ruled as unlawful. 43 00:02:24.599 --> 00:02:28.400 They're still going after these crazy COVID fines, but they've 44 00:02:28.400 --> 00:02:30.719 been told no, you're not allowed to do what they did, 45 00:02:31.639 --> 00:02:35.240 making this attempt to seize bank accounts, et cetera. So yeah, 46 00:02:35.280 --> 00:02:38.199 but it's just like you say, this is what happens 47 00:02:38.240 --> 00:02:42.360 when doctors like us who were once in the establishment. 48 00:02:42.520 --> 00:02:45.120 And Sam was a real golden girl, like you say, 49 00:02:45.240 --> 00:02:48.599 she was on network television and a real favorite, and 50 00:02:48.639 --> 00:02:52.719 then come early twenty twenty she questioned the COVID narrative 51 00:02:52.960 --> 00:02:56.280 and said, look, I don't think there's a pandemic at all, 52 00:02:56.960 --> 00:02:59.879 and that led to this. So yeah, and like you say, 53 00:03:00.039 --> 00:03:03.840 we put out the final pandemic that was actually now 54 00:03:04.879 --> 00:03:06.080 was that twenty twenty four. 55 00:03:06.319 --> 00:03:09.240 Yeah, we've put that out. Yeah, it's a couple of 56 00:03:09.280 --> 00:03:10.520 years since we put that out. 57 00:03:10.599 --> 00:03:13.439 And when you're going to realize you've got a new 58 00:03:13.439 --> 00:03:14.840 book that you just put out, tell us a little 59 00:03:14.840 --> 00:03:15.319 bit about that. 60 00:03:16.639 --> 00:03:19.599 Well, I guess it's a new an older, new book. 61 00:03:19.719 --> 00:03:26.400 It's the book version of my essay A Farewell to Virology. Now, 62 00:03:26.479 --> 00:03:29.919 I wrote this in twenty twenty two because I felt 63 00:03:29.960 --> 00:03:35.439 there wasn't a standalone piece a treatise refuting the entire 64 00:03:35.800 --> 00:03:37.800 virus model all of virology. 65 00:03:38.360 --> 00:03:40.080 So I wrote this essay. 66 00:03:40.360 --> 00:03:44.840 It's about twenty nine thousand words and it's pretty dry. 67 00:03:45.240 --> 00:03:48.080 And Sam said, there's no way, there's no way I 68 00:03:48.080 --> 00:03:52.080 could ever make that into a video production, and she didn't, 69 00:03:52.199 --> 00:03:55.560 although filmmaker Steve Felkner did make it into a three 70 00:03:55.599 --> 00:03:57.039 part documentary eventually. 71 00:03:57.120 --> 00:03:59.680 But we had such positive feedback. 72 00:03:59.240 --> 00:04:02.439 And we'd reached a point where the PDF had been 73 00:04:02.479 --> 00:04:05.439 downloaded about quarter of a million times, and we were 74 00:04:05.479 --> 00:04:09.319 surprised because it's a very dry technical paper, you know, 75 00:04:09.520 --> 00:04:13.680 reputing the virus model. And we decided last year, why 76 00:04:13.719 --> 00:04:15.919 don't we put it out as a book, and I 77 00:04:15.960 --> 00:04:18.759 included a couple of bonus essays that I've written since 78 00:04:18.839 --> 00:04:25.079 that time, and that's sold really, really well. It's really thrilling, David, 79 00:04:25.120 --> 00:04:28.319 to see this that we think, you know, not so 80 00:04:28.439 --> 00:04:32.680 long ago, people you know, weren't questioning this stuff on 81 00:04:33.120 --> 00:04:37.399 a widespread scale. Nowadays, this is coming up all the time, 82 00:04:37.480 --> 00:04:42.040 and people are not only questioning vaccines and pandemics, but 83 00:04:42.439 --> 00:04:46.120 also the entire virus model. So it's been really positive 84 00:04:46.120 --> 00:04:48.120 for us to see that there's a big appetite out 85 00:04:48.160 --> 00:04:52.839 there for this work, and we're seeing people now in 86 00:04:52.920 --> 00:04:56.399 conversation say yeah, well I don't believe in vaccines, and 87 00:04:56.439 --> 00:04:58.199 then you'll hear someone say to them, well, I don't 88 00:04:58.480 --> 00:05:01.639 think that viruses a you know, there's sufficient evidence for 89 00:05:01.680 --> 00:05:04.879 them either. So yeah, when we see this is the 90 00:05:04.920 --> 00:05:08.560 whole thing. The silver lining with the COVID fraud, that's right, 91 00:05:09.000 --> 00:05:12.560 is that it has inadvertently woken people up and they've 92 00:05:12.560 --> 00:05:15.480 gone deeper and deeper into looking into these things. 93 00:05:15.759 --> 00:05:17.959 That's right. We talked about that last time, and you know, 94 00:05:18.439 --> 00:05:20.240 it's it's kind of interesting. It's what we say about 95 00:05:20.279 --> 00:05:21.720 government all the time. You know, you may not be 96 00:05:21.759 --> 00:05:24.680 interested in politics, but politics is interested in you. And 97 00:05:24.720 --> 00:05:27.439 we could say the same thing about virology. Right, you say, 98 00:05:27.800 --> 00:05:30.959 this might be pretty dry reading, but after what happened 99 00:05:31.000 --> 00:05:33.759 five years ago, I think people need to say, you know, 100 00:05:33.959 --> 00:05:36.240 this is something I need to know about. I need 101 00:05:36.279 --> 00:05:38.800 to interest myself in this because this was used to 102 00:05:38.879 --> 00:05:41.360 lock down the world, and if it's going to be 103 00:05:41.439 --> 00:05:42.800 used to lockdown in the world, we need to know 104 00:05:42.800 --> 00:05:44.839 a little bit about it. You know, when you're talking 105 00:05:44.839 --> 00:05:46.560 about getting yes, go ahead. 106 00:05:47.279 --> 00:05:48.879 Oh sorry, now I was just going to say exactly 107 00:05:49.160 --> 00:05:49.680 just it's so. 108 00:05:49.680 --> 00:05:53.480 Important and I think when people when people, you can't 109 00:05:53.519 --> 00:05:56.199 we can't cold call people and say look into this. 110 00:05:56.879 --> 00:05:58.560 It has to come from the individual. 111 00:05:58.680 --> 00:06:01.040 But I think it's really added with this been a 112 00:06:01.079 --> 00:06:04.360 complete lack of trust in the medical system since after 113 00:06:04.439 --> 00:06:09.680 what's happened, people have now distrusting vaccines. And the next 114 00:06:09.839 --> 00:06:13.279 question that fools to people, will do these. 115 00:06:13.120 --> 00:06:15.360 Things even exist? What are they doing to us? 116 00:06:15.480 --> 00:06:18.959 And that in itself, that question, when you answer it 117 00:06:19.040 --> 00:06:22.439 is so empowering because it changes your entire way of 118 00:06:22.480 --> 00:06:25.040 seeing health and how to be well. 119 00:06:25.199 --> 00:06:26.839 And it's a really. 120 00:06:26.639 --> 00:06:30.360 Positive step and we see it. There's a great awakening 121 00:06:30.439 --> 00:06:30.839 going on. 122 00:06:31.279 --> 00:06:34.160 Yes, yes, well you know that is. And I've said 123 00:06:34.160 --> 00:06:36.680 this for the longest time. You know, where we're talking 124 00:06:36.720 --> 00:06:39.399 about the Green New Deal or whatever. You know, it's like, 125 00:06:39.759 --> 00:06:41.839 show me your data. I was with a group that 126 00:06:41.959 --> 00:06:44.519 had to sue to try to get Michael Mann's data 127 00:06:44.600 --> 00:06:48.040 as part of the climate gate thing that happened with 128 00:06:48.120 --> 00:06:50.839 East Anglia, and he fought so hard to keep his 129 00:06:51.000 --> 00:06:54.079 data secret. Well, that's kind of suspicious. I don't think 130 00:06:54.079 --> 00:06:56.920 somebody would do that if it's all up and above board, 131 00:06:57.000 --> 00:07:00.600 And so that really kind of feeds your scale criticism, 132 00:07:01.079 --> 00:07:04.319 and you know, if it's true, you don't need to 133 00:07:04.399 --> 00:07:06.639 hide it. And so I think that's the key thing 134 00:07:06.680 --> 00:07:09.879 about a lot of this stuff. People saw this throughout 135 00:07:09.920 --> 00:07:12.600 the virus stuff, when we saw the heavy hand of 136 00:07:12.680 --> 00:07:16.639 censorship and as you're talking about before, de banking people 137 00:07:16.680 --> 00:07:18.560 and that type of thing. I got de banked in 138 00:07:18.639 --> 00:07:20.879 May of twenty twenty one, five months after we started 139 00:07:20.879 --> 00:07:24.120 the show, and at that point in time, PayPal was 140 00:07:24.160 --> 00:07:26.600 where I got. Pretty much all the contributions that we 141 00:07:26.680 --> 00:07:29.160 got was through PayPal, So that was a really big 142 00:07:29.199 --> 00:07:32.199 deal when we got cut off in the one place. 143 00:07:32.240 --> 00:07:33.480 And now we've made sure that we've got a lot 144 00:07:33.519 --> 00:07:36.240 of different places where people can support the show. But 145 00:07:37.079 --> 00:07:40.519 I just saw that they've admitted that most of these 146 00:07:40.600 --> 00:07:45.639 dbank orders are the D banking is being driven by government, 147 00:07:46.120 --> 00:07:48.720 not by the corporations, just like we saw with the censorship. 148 00:07:49.040 --> 00:07:51.439 For the longest time, we said, this censorship is coming 149 00:07:51.439 --> 00:07:53.439 from the government. We can tell because of the pattern 150 00:07:53.480 --> 00:07:56.079 in it, and then they admitted it. We got the 151 00:07:56.120 --> 00:07:58.439 documents and you could see that it was actually coming 152 00:07:58.439 --> 00:08:00.879 from the government. The same thing true of the D 153 00:08:01.000 --> 00:08:05.160 banking as well as we would all suspect. So yeah, 154 00:08:05.199 --> 00:08:08.120 let's talk a little bit about measles. Though, because we've 155 00:08:08.160 --> 00:08:12.199 had here in the United States before we had going 156 00:08:12.199 --> 00:08:15.439 to war with the world and changing the subjects every 157 00:08:15.480 --> 00:08:19.279 other day, they were starting to push back against some 158 00:08:19.319 --> 00:08:22.839 of the minor changes that are being made at HHS 159 00:08:22.839 --> 00:08:26.040 by RFK Junior. I'm glad to see some of these changes. 160 00:08:26.040 --> 00:08:28.079 They've reduced the I don't know if you're familiar with 161 00:08:28.160 --> 00:08:31.000 what's going on in the US, but they've reduced the 162 00:08:31.120 --> 00:08:35.759 vaccine count that they recommend that they're really virtually mandating 163 00:08:35.799 --> 00:08:40.480 for children by the pressures that were put on to pediatricians. 164 00:08:40.919 --> 00:08:43.799 They would offer both carrots and sticks to make sure 165 00:08:43.879 --> 00:08:46.840 that they would get the kids vaccinated, and so there 166 00:08:46.840 --> 00:08:50.919 were penalties associated with the reimbursements they would get from 167 00:08:50.960 --> 00:08:53.879 the insurance companies and things like that. So they have 168 00:08:54.039 --> 00:08:55.519 pulled back some of these and we go back and 169 00:08:55.519 --> 00:08:58.320 look at the vaccine schedule. I was really surprised to 170 00:08:58.360 --> 00:09:01.080 see how many times they would repeat these vaccines. Some 171 00:09:01.159 --> 00:09:04.679 of them were given four and five times during childhood. 172 00:09:05.200 --> 00:09:09.320 And so they've pulled back the frequency and the number 173 00:09:09.360 --> 00:09:13.000 of vaccines that are recommended, and they've also pulled it 174 00:09:13.039 --> 00:09:14.679 back to say there's not going to be any penalty 175 00:09:14.720 --> 00:09:17.720 if you don't follow the recommendations. So that's positive stuff, 176 00:09:17.720 --> 00:09:20.679 but that's really got the vaccine industry fired up. So 177 00:09:20.720 --> 00:09:23.240 they were coming back with measles, and so I went 178 00:09:23.240 --> 00:09:25.360 to the CDC, and I thought it was kind of 179 00:09:25.360 --> 00:09:28.399 interesting to see how many cases they had and how 180 00:09:28.399 --> 00:09:31.080 many so called outbreaks that they'd had, because they put 181 00:09:31.120 --> 00:09:34.240 a lot on this South Carolina and there was another 182 00:09:34.240 --> 00:09:36.559 one in Georgia, but South Carolina they were really focused 183 00:09:36.600 --> 00:09:38.600 on just a couple of months ago. And they were 184 00:09:38.600 --> 00:09:42.000 giving us narratives saying that you had a hundred kids 185 00:09:42.039 --> 00:09:43.600 or whatever, and I said, yeah, but you notice that 186 00:09:43.600 --> 00:09:47.559 they're not saying anybody is hospitalized, and no Mondey has died, 187 00:09:48.120 --> 00:09:50.759 even though we had in Texas, I think it was 188 00:09:50.799 --> 00:09:53.440 in twenty twenty four, they had two cases that they 189 00:09:53.480 --> 00:09:59.200 claimed had been had been fatal. When Children's Self Defense 190 00:09:59.240 --> 00:10:01.960 went and investigation, they found that that was not the 191 00:10:02.000 --> 00:10:06.240 cause of death of these So that's men disputed, and 192 00:10:06.360 --> 00:10:09.720 I think very effectively disputed. But they never even claimed 193 00:10:09.720 --> 00:10:13.120 that anybody died or was hospitalized out of these cases 194 00:10:13.120 --> 00:10:15.799 in South Carolina and Georgia. And I thought it was 195 00:10:15.879 --> 00:10:19.399 kind of interesting Mark and Sam that when they define 196 00:10:19.600 --> 00:10:23.639 an outbreak, that is more than three cases that are connected. 197 00:10:24.320 --> 00:10:27.279 And so they said that sixty nine percent of the 198 00:10:27.320 --> 00:10:32.360 cases in twenty twenty four were outbreaks, but then that 199 00:10:32.399 --> 00:10:34.919 meant that thirty one percent of the cases were not. 200 00:10:35.639 --> 00:10:37.399 And so it's like, that's kind of strange. If they're 201 00:10:37.399 --> 00:10:41.480 telling us that this is the most contagious virus out there, 202 00:10:42.000 --> 00:10:45.000 how is it that you're getting all these situations where 203 00:10:45.000 --> 00:10:46.840 we have one person or two people that have it 204 00:10:47.240 --> 00:10:50.440 and nobody else has it. And so that raises a question, 205 00:10:50.559 --> 00:10:53.679 I think in my mind, at least, what would you 206 00:10:53.679 --> 00:10:55.600 tell the audience. I know we talked about this last 207 00:10:55.639 --> 00:10:58.120 time you were on, we talked about measles, but kind 208 00:10:58.159 --> 00:11:01.440 of give us a refresher course about your position about 209 00:11:01.440 --> 00:11:03.399 measles and what you think is going on here, because 210 00:11:03.440 --> 00:11:05.039 a lot of people have had an experience with it 211 00:11:05.559 --> 00:11:09.799 where most of us in the US had measles at 212 00:11:09.840 --> 00:11:12.799 my age, and so the question is, you know, why 213 00:11:13.000 --> 00:11:15.360 did a lot of us have measles back then, Why 214 00:11:15.559 --> 00:11:18.120 is it so many fewer right now? And why did 215 00:11:18.120 --> 00:11:20.279 it appear like it was something that was being passed 216 00:11:20.279 --> 00:11:23.120 on to people you want to speak to. 217 00:11:23.080 --> 00:11:27.799 That, yeah, sure, And David, this comes down to the 218 00:11:27.919 --> 00:11:32.080 narrative that the media present. And it's a complicated thing because, 219 00:11:32.600 --> 00:11:35.120 like you say, people will contact us and say, hey, 220 00:11:35.120 --> 00:11:38.039 there's an outbreak in the city and the United States, 221 00:11:38.039 --> 00:11:40.440 and they're all unvaccinated kids and some of them are 222 00:11:40.480 --> 00:11:43.159 really sick, and you have to really peeck things back 223 00:11:43.360 --> 00:11:48.279 to the whole historical aspects of measles and the basic science. 224 00:11:48.840 --> 00:11:51.720 So like you, we would say, first of all, investigate 225 00:11:51.799 --> 00:11:54.919 what do they mean by an outbreak, and we find 226 00:11:54.960 --> 00:11:59.480 that these days there might be two cases and splashing 227 00:11:59.559 --> 00:12:02.759 that in the heaadlines saying outbreak. Now, this is something 228 00:12:02.919 --> 00:12:06.759 historically that would have never made national news, let alone 229 00:12:07.480 --> 00:12:10.399 of course, to murmur in the local community. Nobody calls 230 00:12:10.440 --> 00:12:13.519 that an outbreak. But they've changed the language, they've changed 231 00:12:13.559 --> 00:12:17.639 the definitions. Then we have the issue with what is 232 00:12:17.919 --> 00:12:18.399 a case. 233 00:12:19.039 --> 00:12:19.360 Now. 234 00:12:19.559 --> 00:12:24.000 Historically they didn't have any tests, any laboratory tests, so 235 00:12:24.039 --> 00:12:26.960 it was all done clinically, you know, So a kid 236 00:12:27.000 --> 00:12:30.200 would present with a rash and a fever and it 237 00:12:30.240 --> 00:12:30.639 was up to. 238 00:12:30.679 --> 00:12:33.000 The doctor to decide what that was. 239 00:12:33.440 --> 00:12:35.120 Now, Sam and I used to be in the system 240 00:12:35.240 --> 00:12:37.799 and we were trained up in that system, and they'll 241 00:12:37.799 --> 00:12:40.840 tell you all of these things like adoptor knows measles 242 00:12:40.879 --> 00:12:44.399 because there's complex spot, the complex spots in the mouth, 243 00:12:44.480 --> 00:12:47.679 a special sign that you'll see, all this kind of stuff. 244 00:12:47.919 --> 00:12:49.879 And then you look into the research and you find 245 00:12:49.879 --> 00:12:53.360 out that these case definitions are so wooly. You know, 246 00:12:53.840 --> 00:12:57.360 most of them don't have these special features. The rashes 247 00:12:57.360 --> 00:13:01.000 all look very similar. How do you distinguish between handfoot 248 00:13:01.000 --> 00:13:06.559 in mouth, you know, measles, chicken pox, monkey pocks, small pox. 249 00:13:06.799 --> 00:13:10.799 They're all just degrees. They're all just similar presentations, coughs, fevers, 250 00:13:11.039 --> 00:13:14.440 runny noses, and rashes. A lot of it comes down 251 00:13:14.519 --> 00:13:18.440 to what the doctor decides. Then we have this problem 252 00:13:18.519 --> 00:13:22.279 of whether the child has been vaccinated or not. So 253 00:13:23.159 --> 00:13:26.120 a lot of the time the child's been vaccinated, you're 254 00:13:26.120 --> 00:13:28.440 not allowed to make the diagnosis. You know, you have 255 00:13:28.480 --> 00:13:31.679 to look at something else because that doesn't look good. 256 00:13:32.480 --> 00:13:36.000 And at other times there's a special message that goes 257 00:13:36.039 --> 00:13:39.279 out to the medical community and there may be incentives 258 00:13:39.320 --> 00:13:41.799 to report the cases. You know, you need to suddenly 259 00:13:41.840 --> 00:13:42.559 start reporting. 260 00:13:42.639 --> 00:13:44.240 So we have to think that. 261 00:13:44.159 --> 00:13:48.279 These are often artificial situations that we're seeing. Nothing is 262 00:13:48.320 --> 00:13:51.840 actually changing in the community. But it's the way it's 263 00:13:51.879 --> 00:13:55.879 being presented, the way it's being tested, the way things 264 00:13:55.879 --> 00:13:56.639 are being looked for. 265 00:13:56.759 --> 00:13:58.399 So yeah, we know. 266 00:13:59.240 --> 00:14:02.519 Historically, like you say that many of us last century 267 00:14:02.720 --> 00:14:07.120 were given the diagnosis of measles. By definition, it was 268 00:14:07.240 --> 00:14:10.759 a very mild condition and a lot of kids used 269 00:14:10.799 --> 00:14:13.759 to celebrate getting it because it meant that they got 270 00:14:13.759 --> 00:14:17.919 the week of school because of this crazy notion that 271 00:14:17.960 --> 00:14:21.399 people thought it was a contagious entity. So for a child, 272 00:14:21.440 --> 00:14:23.759 it was a pretty exciting time you got the measles. 273 00:14:23.799 --> 00:14:27.360 It was a guaranteed week or two of school while 274 00:14:27.399 --> 00:14:31.679 you hit the rash, etc. But these days, as you know, 275 00:14:31.960 --> 00:14:35.279 we're being presented with the story that the measles is deadly. 276 00:14:35.519 --> 00:14:38.639 It's so oh my goodness, imagine if your child got that. 277 00:14:39.480 --> 00:14:44.000 And we're not actually seeing cases or claimed cases where 278 00:14:44.080 --> 00:14:49.879 children are dying. Outside of these very small number of 279 00:14:50.559 --> 00:14:55.600 events and incidents. We're on deeper inspection on actual looking 280 00:14:55.639 --> 00:14:58.360 at the medical records, we find out that these kids 281 00:14:58.399 --> 00:15:02.000 were sick for other reasons and someone happened to label 282 00:15:02.080 --> 00:15:05.759 them or said that they had a co infection in 283 00:15:05.840 --> 00:15:08.799 quotes with measles at the time, and then the media 284 00:15:08.840 --> 00:15:11.200 pick up on it and say, you know, child with 285 00:15:11.360 --> 00:15:14.080 measles dives, But you know, it's clear to us when 286 00:15:14.120 --> 00:15:16.200 you look at the medical records that the child was 287 00:15:16.240 --> 00:15:18.039 sick for other reasons. 288 00:15:18.200 --> 00:15:21.080 And that's what happened in Texas with doctor Brian Hooker. 289 00:15:21.120 --> 00:15:23.919 Another Jeff, I agree, yeah, and so there is that 290 00:15:24.000 --> 00:15:26.720 you point out. Sometimes there's an incentive to not report 291 00:15:26.759 --> 00:15:29.960 it as measles. Sometimes there's an incentive to report it 292 00:15:29.960 --> 00:15:32.960 as measles. And it's very similar to what we saw 293 00:15:33.200 --> 00:15:37.320 with COVID. The government, the federal government was giving a 294 00:15:37.360 --> 00:15:40.519 bonus to doctors if they would do a clinical diagnosis. 295 00:15:40.519 --> 00:15:43.360 Point at somebody say he's got COVID, and I see 296 00:15:43.399 --> 00:15:46.039 get a. I think it was thirteen thousand dollars if 297 00:15:46.080 --> 00:15:52.279 I remember correctly. And then towards August of twenty twenty, 298 00:15:52.639 --> 00:15:55.440 you had the American Hospital Association say, wait a minute, 299 00:15:55.559 --> 00:15:57.240 you're telling us now that you need some kind of 300 00:15:57.279 --> 00:16:00.519 a PCR diagnosis. That's here. You told us at the 301 00:16:00.559 --> 00:16:02.559 beginning those didn't work and you didn't have enough of them, 302 00:16:02.759 --> 00:16:04.840 and he told us just to do diagnosis, and now 303 00:16:04.840 --> 00:16:06.559 you're not paying up. So that kind of blew the 304 00:16:06.600 --> 00:16:11.159 cover because there's no honor among thieves, I guess, And 305 00:16:11.519 --> 00:16:14.159 so people would start to see things like that happening. 306 00:16:14.559 --> 00:16:18.480 And we realize now that that's not just limited to COVID. 307 00:16:19.039 --> 00:16:20.679 This is the type of thing they've been running for 308 00:16:20.759 --> 00:16:22.120 quite some time, isn't it. 309 00:16:23.440 --> 00:16:24.200 Yeah, definitely. 310 00:16:24.279 --> 00:16:27.759 And I think what is also interesting is, you know 311 00:16:27.919 --> 00:16:31.840 what Mark was saying with the classification a serious pathogen, 312 00:16:31.919 --> 00:16:34.799 you only need one case for it to be defined 313 00:16:34.799 --> 00:16:37.799 as an outbreak. So that's what happened we saw in 314 00:16:37.799 --> 00:16:42.039 COVID in New Zealand where there was one case and 315 00:16:42.120 --> 00:16:44.559 the whole nation went into lockdown. 316 00:16:44.799 --> 00:16:49.639 Just to be clear, when Sam say's pathogen, that's yeah. 317 00:16:49.919 --> 00:16:52.039 We don't want people to think they're on their tombs. 318 00:16:52.320 --> 00:16:53.000 Yeah yeah. 319 00:16:53.399 --> 00:16:58.480 We pathogenic is a word, you know, Men's disease causing pathogen. 320 00:16:59.039 --> 00:17:02.120 They took this term last century and made it up 321 00:17:02.159 --> 00:17:07.279 and said, oh, that's microbes, you know, bacteria and invisible 322 00:17:07.440 --> 00:17:11.799 or imaginary viruses. But as Sam says, in their system, 323 00:17:12.240 --> 00:17:15.079 they will say that you can have one case and 324 00:17:15.160 --> 00:17:17.880 if it's a serious one, they say that's an outbreak. 325 00:17:17.920 --> 00:17:19.000 We now have an outbreak. 326 00:17:19.039 --> 00:17:22.279 Folks in countries like New Zealand, they'll shut down the 327 00:17:22.440 --> 00:17:23.079 entire country. 328 00:17:24.720 --> 00:17:28.079 Yeah, yeah, Oh, it's crazy. And I think that's one 329 00:17:28.079 --> 00:17:30.359 of the key things that many of us don't realize 330 00:17:30.440 --> 00:17:33.400 is they haven't really done real science. I'm sure you 331 00:17:33.440 --> 00:17:36.559 address that and your farewell to virology. They didn't do 332 00:17:36.680 --> 00:17:41.319 real science to isolate a particular thing like a virus 333 00:17:41.440 --> 00:17:45.000 or something and then correlate that to the illness, to say, well, 334 00:17:45.039 --> 00:17:48.279 we got this thing that we find in the people 335 00:17:48.319 --> 00:17:49.759 who are sick, and we don't find it and the 336 00:17:49.759 --> 00:17:52.559 people were well, and if we take that and transfer 337 00:17:52.599 --> 00:17:55.359 it to the people who are well, they get sick. 338 00:17:55.599 --> 00:17:58.519 That's what everybody thinks is happening. But that's not what's happening. 339 00:17:58.319 --> 00:18:00.960 Right, David. 340 00:18:00.960 --> 00:18:05.640 There is a hidden history behind measles. And when Sam 341 00:18:05.680 --> 00:18:09.039 and I had trained as doctors, they didn't tell us 342 00:18:09.079 --> 00:18:14.119 about this, and they presented very selective information and they 343 00:18:14.160 --> 00:18:17.279 said that there was some monkey experiments that were done 344 00:18:17.400 --> 00:18:22.319 early last century that proved that measles was highly contagious. Now, 345 00:18:22.680 --> 00:18:27.039 that was very disingenuous because when we actually dug into 346 00:18:27.160 --> 00:18:31.079 the history and I've got a note here, researchers like 347 00:18:31.480 --> 00:18:35.720 Daniel Reuter's, our Australian colleague, have done magnificent work digging 348 00:18:35.799 --> 00:18:37.200 up all of these old studies. 349 00:18:37.880 --> 00:18:39.920 There were a whole lot of studies. 350 00:18:39.680 --> 00:18:42.359 In the eighteen hundreds, and people would be shocked if 351 00:18:42.400 --> 00:18:45.359 they knew what they actually did, because you'd never get 352 00:18:45.400 --> 00:18:49.079 this stuff approved these days past the ethics committees. So 353 00:18:50.160 --> 00:18:54.160 they were taking children and even young ones like babies, 354 00:18:54.319 --> 00:18:57.880 and trying to give them measles. They were doing everything 355 00:18:57.920 --> 00:19:01.640 they could, so a doctor would researcher would locate a 356 00:19:01.759 --> 00:19:04.240 case of a kid that was unwell with what was 357 00:19:04.279 --> 00:19:08.200 said to be measles, that quickly takes snot and tears 358 00:19:08.440 --> 00:19:12.119 and even blood from these kids, and then they'd go 359 00:19:12.160 --> 00:19:16.119 and try and infect other kids. Now often that'd just 360 00:19:16.240 --> 00:19:19.799 squirt it straight up their nose or expose their eyes, 361 00:19:20.480 --> 00:19:21.240 or just put it. 362 00:19:21.160 --> 00:19:21.720 On their skin. 363 00:19:22.119 --> 00:19:25.599 Sometimes they would actually make wounds to their bodies and 364 00:19:25.720 --> 00:19:30.400 introduce this material, this disease material. They would also inject 365 00:19:30.480 --> 00:19:33.720 it straight into other children. So they'd take blood from 366 00:19:33.720 --> 00:19:36.519 one child said to have measles, inject it into another. 367 00:19:37.440 --> 00:19:41.480 All failures didn't work. All they could induce were these 368 00:19:41.640 --> 00:19:45.960 local kind of reactions. And they said because they were 369 00:19:45.960 --> 00:19:48.279 so obsessed of showing that there was some sort of 370 00:19:48.480 --> 00:19:54.559 contagious element. They said, oh, maybe techniques are insufficient. There 371 00:19:54.559 --> 00:19:58.559 were even techniques where they then they brought monkeys in 372 00:19:58.920 --> 00:20:03.559 and they exposed them to sack humans, and the monkeys 373 00:20:03.599 --> 00:20:08.359 didn't get sacked. So eventually they resorted to taking blood 374 00:20:08.519 --> 00:20:12.279 from people said to have measles and injected it into 375 00:20:12.359 --> 00:20:16.680 these monkeys, these reciss monkeys and other small monkeys. 376 00:20:17.519 --> 00:20:18.480 Some not all. 377 00:20:18.559 --> 00:20:21.559 Some of the monkeys developed a little bit of a 378 00:20:21.680 --> 00:20:25.440 rash around the injection site and a fever, and then 379 00:20:25.480 --> 00:20:27.039 they said, well, that proves it. 380 00:20:27.160 --> 00:20:27.720 There was a. 381 00:20:27.799 --> 00:20:32.480 Study nineteen eleven Anderson and Goldberger, and this is the 382 00:20:32.519 --> 00:20:34.839 one they'll cite of saying, well, that's when they showed 383 00:20:35.079 --> 00:20:38.000 it was contagious. Now the rest of us looking at 384 00:20:38.000 --> 00:20:42.319 this to say this is outrageous because the WHO and 385 00:20:42.400 --> 00:20:48.039 the CDC they say that measles is an airborne disease, 386 00:20:48.079 --> 00:20:52.039 it's transmitted via aerosol, and that just being in the 387 00:20:52.079 --> 00:20:55.599 same room with someone is enough to cause you to 388 00:20:55.640 --> 00:20:58.440 come down with the case of the measles. Clearly, the 389 00:20:58.519 --> 00:21:02.640 research never showed that they had to do these preposterous 390 00:21:02.960 --> 00:21:08.960 experiments where they injected animals with human blood. And we know, 391 00:21:09.119 --> 00:21:12.400 David that that will cause a reaction because and even 392 00:21:12.440 --> 00:21:16.039 the human experiments they did sometimes you'll get a reaction 393 00:21:16.200 --> 00:21:20.119 because the blood is not cross matched appropriately. So you 394 00:21:20.160 --> 00:21:24.960 don't need a virus to cause these increases in temperature. 395 00:21:25.400 --> 00:21:29.920 And none of them recreated the same illness, the classic illness, 396 00:21:30.000 --> 00:21:33.000 so completely this is all hidden. 397 00:21:33.400 --> 00:21:36.039 Well, they did the same type of thing. I learned 398 00:21:36.039 --> 00:21:37.920 this from you. They did the same type of thing 399 00:21:38.319 --> 00:21:40.799 like from nineteen forty something in nineteen eighty something in 400 00:21:40.839 --> 00:21:44.160 the UK Cold House where they were doing everything they 401 00:21:44.200 --> 00:21:47.400