Speaker 1: It's Night Side with Dan Ray. I'm WBZ Koston's Radio.
Speaker 2: Our number two away here at BZ. My name Morgan W. Junior,
Speaker 2: filling in for Dan Ray. Dan will be back. I'm
Speaker 2: expecting on the twelfth of August next Monday. I'm here
Speaker 2: tonight until midnight tomorrow and Friday as well, eight to midnight.
Speaker 2: And I want to tell you that my next guest
Speaker 2: is the president and director of Licensed Wildlife Rehabilitator at
Speaker 2: Hair of the Dog and Hair is spelled Hare and
Speaker 2: that's in Massachusetts. And remember, the heat is dangerous to
Speaker 2: injured wildlife and domestic pets. Dehydration happens quickly, and you
Speaker 2: have to kind of watch out, not just for your pets,
Speaker 2: but depending on where you live, there may be squirrels
Speaker 2: or raccoons or rabbit apossums in your immediate neighborhood, in
Speaker 2: your yard. You've got to pay attention to make sure
Speaker 2: that they two are healthy. Believe it or not, squirrels
Speaker 2: can fall out of trees. And if you don't believe me,
Speaker 2: my guest, Mariel McCann can speak to that. Marielle, Welcome
Speaker 2: to BESY and good evening to you.
Speaker 3: Thank you so much, good evening to you too.
Speaker 2: Now, how is it that a squirrel can fall out
Speaker 2: of a tree?
Speaker 3: Now, generally there's two ways that I usually see, maybe three.
Speaker 3: Two ways that I usually see are if their babies
Speaker 3: and their mama isn't around anymore, whether you know it's
Speaker 3: a hawk or you know different ways. Then when they
Speaker 3: get hungry enough, then they'll start looking for food and
Speaker 3: they find a way down. And we always say the
Speaker 3: bravest one comes down first, so they'll climb down in
Speaker 3: hopes to find food somehow, even with their little eyes closed.
Speaker 3: And so then they'll be crawling around the ground looking
Speaker 3: for someone, sometimes with some facial injuries, that sort of thing.
Speaker 3: And then they'll find their local rehabber like myself or
Speaker 3: there's a bunch of us listed on mass dot gov.
Speaker 3: Find a rehabber and you can find one close to you,
Speaker 3: and then we can give you great advice on whether
Speaker 3: they need help or not. In that situation, one hundred percent,
Speaker 3: it needs help, Okay.
Speaker 2: And now I'm going to say people, you've heard this.
Speaker 2: I know listening to BZ during the day, the newscasts
Speaker 2: repeatedly tell you about not just animals, but our kids
Speaker 2: don't leave pets and kids in the hot car while
Speaker 2: you run to buy bread and milk from the store.
Speaker 3: Don't do that, Oh absolutely so in ten minutes on
Speaker 3: a seventy five degree day, in ten minutes, your car
Speaker 3: goes up to ninety degree. So you know, if you
Speaker 3: have an English bulldog or a French schees are so
Speaker 3: popular now. Any of those short nosed dogs, they have
Speaker 3: a hard time recovering, so anytime left in there then
Speaker 3: it's really dangerous, very quickly for them. You know, there's
Speaker 3: stats obviously, if it's a ninety five degree day, ten minutes,
Speaker 3: it's one hundred and fourteen in your car. So we
Speaker 3: are thankful that Massachusetts did make the law that now
Speaker 3: we can we do something about it. So if you
Speaker 3: see a pet that isn't a car and you're worried
Speaker 3: about it, there are rules and steps to take to
Speaker 3: save that dog or cat. Sometimes that happens as well,
Speaker 3: but reaching out to your local police station or animal
Speaker 3: control officer and trying to find the owner, and if
Speaker 3: you can't, then you can't and that owner is out
Speaker 3: a new window replacement costs and up to one hundred
Speaker 3: and fifty dollars fine be because pets are important to
Speaker 3: the state of Massachusett.
Speaker 2: I'm going to make our conversation personal. This is Mriol
Speaker 2: and Morgan. No go back one. It's about Joseph. I
Speaker 2: know that Joseph. I know Joseph loved you, and you
Speaker 2: love Joseph, but.
Speaker 3: I certainly did.
Speaker 2: Joseph never wrapped his tail around your neck, did he.
Speaker 3: Well, you can only be so special, you know.
Speaker 2: Right, Joseph would consistently if I'm in bed, he would
Speaker 2: come into the bedroom and wrap his tail almost completely
Speaker 2: around my neck.
Speaker 3: Yeah, he was pretty pretty close to perfect.
Speaker 2: And I know Nancy told you the story about the
Speaker 2: flesh off. I'm not going to tell the story again
Speaker 2: on the air, but next time you speak to Nancy Hafer,
Speaker 2: retell that story to you. No, I'm going to ask
Speaker 2: people if you want to call him six one, seven, two, five, four,
Speaker 2: ten thirty or eight eight, eight, nine to nine, ten thirty.
Speaker 2: And Mariel, we hit thirty eight states with our signal
Speaker 2: and also parts of Canada, so you've got a wide
Speaker 2: audience if you want to call it. Maybe some go ahead.
Speaker 3: There may be some wildlife. I'm not familiar, not familiar
Speaker 3: with rehab wives in some of those other states. Right,
Speaker 3: I have advice for our ones in Massachusetts.
Speaker 2: Okay, And if you were calling from an area that
Speaker 2: does have wildlife raccoons, possums, rabbits, mariell can speak to
Speaker 2: quick care. But always if you can let a professional know.
Speaker 2: What's that eight hundred? You didn't mention an eight hundred number,
Speaker 2: but you did mention a number that allows you, an
Speaker 2: everyday citizen to get in touch with professionals. What is
Speaker 2: that information?
Speaker 3: Well on Massachusetts. So Massachusetts is the mass dot gov,
Speaker 3: so every state will have their own wildlife listing and
Speaker 3: mass dot gov. Find a Rehabber is the fastest and
Speaker 3: easiest way to find a local rehab rehab center near you,
Speaker 3: and it will give you phone numbers and how to
Speaker 3: contact and what animals they take care of, and everyone
Speaker 3: can give you advice on whether an animal even needs help.
Speaker 3: We never want to we never want to take in
Speaker 3: a baby that it's mama's looking for it. So calling
Speaker 3: an educated rehabber is the way.
Speaker 1: To go for that.
Speaker 2: Okay. I've got to break coming up in about a minute,
Speaker 2: and I'm going to ask you to touch on these
Speaker 2: two subjects. Rabies are obviously something that people need to
Speaker 2: be aware of and ticks. Tell a lot of people
Speaker 2: don't know what a tick looks like, and they don't
Speaker 2: know where to look for a tick on their dog
Speaker 2: a cat. I remember when I was a kid, I
Speaker 2: used to spend summers in a community called Plimpton. We
Speaker 2: had family down there and they had a big old
Speaker 2: dog and my aunt Margaret, every now and then would
Speaker 2: have to pull ticks off this dog because the dog
Speaker 2: ran into the brush consistently chasing whatever. And a lot
Speaker 2: of people may have never had to do that. So
Speaker 2: I want to talk about rabies and ticks and again, people,
Speaker 2: if you want to call in Mario mccanna's hair and
Speaker 2: she can help you with the care and proper treat
Speaker 2: meant of your kitty, your puppy, your iguana, whatever you
Speaker 2: may have. Six one, seven, two, five, four, ten thirty
Speaker 2: eight eight, eight, nine to nine, ten thirty and the
Speaker 2: show's night side. The time is nine point fifteen and
Speaker 2: the temperature is sixty six degrees.
Speaker 1: Now back to Dan ray Li from the Window World
Speaker 1: night Side Studios on w b Z, the news radio.
Speaker 2: Dan is off. I am here Morgan right, Junior, and
Speaker 2: I'm speaking with the president and Director of Licensed Wildlife rehibator.
Speaker 2: I was doing so well until I got to that
Speaker 2: word rehabilitator at hair Hare of the Dog in Massachusetts.
Speaker 2: Her name is Mariol mckainn, and Mariol before the break,
Speaker 2: I want to know about ticks and I wanted to
Speaker 2: know about rabi's. Which one do we tackle first?
Speaker 3: Well? I deal with both relatively routinely at this point. Now,
Speaker 3: raccoons are the majority of what I rehab They're my favorite.
Speaker 3: I say that about a lot of species, but they're
Speaker 3: my favorite. So both ticks and rabies is something that
Speaker 3: raccoons deal with routinely. Kick Why is that?
Speaker 2: I'm sorry for interrecting, but why is that a common
Speaker 2: malady that we find within not just raccoons, but rabbit, squirrels,
Speaker 2: et cetera. Why do they seemingly have a great proliferation
Speaker 2: of that disease.
Speaker 3: Well, there's different levels of risk for different species, and
Speaker 3: rabies and bats. Raccoons and bats are up at the
Speaker 3: top that we see in Massachusetts. So it's certainly something
Speaker 3: that I'm aware of. I'm not afraid of, but I'm
Speaker 3: aware of the reason that I'm we take it so
Speaker 3: seriously because it does transmit to humans and it is
Speaker 3: one hundred percent. I say one hundred percent. There has
Speaker 3: been some cases of people you know surviving through, but
Speaker 3: they're never the same. But you know, once you get symptoms,
Speaker 3: you can't fix it. So every single raccoon that is
Speaker 3: rehabbed and released from hair of the dog is fully
Speaker 3: vaccinated against rabies as well as other live other diseases
Speaker 3: as well. But rabies is you know, something that it's
Speaker 3: caused by, uh, It's spread through the animal biting another animal.
Speaker 3: So any fighting, any communication you know, these social animals
Speaker 3: is more apt to spread more rapidly. I feel as if,
Speaker 3: you know, without the actual data to the end of
Speaker 3: the year, it feels like I'm seeing it a little
Speaker 3: bit more this year than I have others. I don't
Speaker 3: know why, but you know, I've known of a couple
Speaker 3: other rehab as well that have dealt with it more
Speaker 3: this year than they have others. I am very thankful
Speaker 3: to the USDA and mass Doc GOV for helping to
Speaker 3: support and do testing and epidemiology for helping to educate
Speaker 3: us through whether an animal is at risk or not
Speaker 3: and what signs they're showing and what we should do
Speaker 3: if we are if you know, if we're worried about that.
Speaker 3: I think, yeah, ticks. So we're lucky now. You know,
Speaker 3: when you were a kid in visiting Limpton, which is
Speaker 3: close to me here in Pembroke, right, you know, we
Speaker 3: didn't have the same medications and preventatives that we do
Speaker 3: now we're I'm very thankful of all the different options
Speaker 3: that veterinarians have for for ticks and fleas that it
Speaker 3: is so much better than it used to be. But
Speaker 3: ticks are so much more common now too, so we're
Speaker 3: kind of it's a double edged sort physical removal of ticks,
Speaker 3: finding them in those spots behind the ears, in the ears,
Speaker 3: on the belly where there's less spur, you know, seeing
Speaker 3: those you can always send pictures to your vet. I
Speaker 3: can't tell you how many times a client has tried
Speaker 3: to pick a nipple off for a day and a
Speaker 3: half and then find out that it wasn't a tick, right,
Speaker 3: So you know that sort of education, having a relationship
Speaker 3: with your veterinarian is really important and showing what you know.
Speaker 3: They can educate you on the different pros and cons
Speaker 3: of flea preventions and tick preventions that works for you, you know,
Speaker 3: it depends on what you're most worried about.
Speaker 2: Wire ticks so common among deer. I mean you even
Speaker 2: hear the phrase deer ticks, that's how common.
Speaker 3: It's a type of Yeah, it's a type of tick,
Speaker 3: and they it's a social animal thing as well. They're
Speaker 3: always walking through you know, they're going through the grasses
Speaker 3: and they're covered. It's hey, it's better than the ticks
Speaker 3: with moose up north of us. You know, they have
Speaker 3: it worse than us. I always hear. So you know,
Speaker 3: what we have to do is make sure that the
Speaker 3: wild stays wild. And you know, we're encroaching on all
Speaker 3: of their land. They don't have anywhere to go, so
Speaker 3: they're in your yards and spreading stuff. But really, the
Speaker 3: majority of wildlife that I get in, whether they're injured
Speaker 3: or orphaned, they have some sort of ecdo parasite, so
Speaker 3: just a parasite that lives on the outside of them,
Speaker 3: and fleas and ticks. The animals are covered in them,
Speaker 3: so it's not just here, they're they're all getting them.
Speaker 2: You mentioned people have sent in photos and other communicates
Speaker 2: to you. What is your website? So if somebody listening
Speaker 2: right now has a question and they want to get
Speaker 2: in touch with you, how do they do it.
Speaker 3: Yeah, we're hair offthdog dot org and and as you
Speaker 3: said that, it's hair h A R E. And so
Speaker 3: they can send in questions. There there's a section where
Speaker 3: you can you know, you can donate, you can contact me,
Speaker 3: there's things to purchase if you know you want to
Speaker 3: help support. Everything goes directly to the rehab and the
Speaker 3: care of the animals, and or texting me at seven
Speaker 3: seven four two seven seven zero seven five five. Pictures
Speaker 3: are always a huge help I can that way, I
Speaker 3: can see you know, sometimes I can tell that an
Speaker 3: animal needs to be rehabbed immediately based off the picture.
Speaker 3: I don't even need the story in the background. And
Speaker 3: that can be hugely helpful. Or I can help you
Speaker 3: find the resource that can help you.
Speaker 2: Okay, why is it in this day and age listening
Speaker 2: right now? Thirty eight states worth of people and parts
Speaker 2: of Canada. Tomorrow somebody's going to put little Peppy a
Speaker 2: little fife in the cage in the back seat and
Speaker 2: wind up the windows. What does it take to get
Speaker 2: across the people? Don't do that? Leave the dog at
Speaker 2: home for goodness sake?
Speaker 3: Yeah, I don't know. We want to bring our pets everywhere.
Speaker 3: They're family. I totally get that, but there's a lot
Speaker 3: of our animals we are breeding to be very cute
Speaker 3: in that cuteness. Those all those breakycephalic I say, the
Speaker 3: short note dogs, the bulldogs, they cannot recover. So you know,
Speaker 3: German shepherds are longer nosed dogs can recover a little
Speaker 3: bit better. But they don't want to be in your car.
Speaker 3: Are They don't want to be tied out outside your
Speaker 3: car that it just leaves them at home. Go run
Speaker 3: your errands and then bring them inside. Keep them inside,
Speaker 3: take your walks in the morning or the evening when
Speaker 3: it gets a little bit cooler, and that can be
Speaker 3: really helpful as well. Some people tell me that their dogs,
Speaker 3: like if they don't get their run, if they don't
Speaker 3: get their jog, if they're not outside playing, then they're
Speaker 3: so anxious use use their brain more than their body
Speaker 3: on days that it's riskier for them. Teach them a
Speaker 3: new trick. Using that brain will also settle that anxiety
Speaker 3: to when they can't be out and use in exercising
Speaker 3: because you don't want to. You know, if they start
Speaker 3: doing that frantic panting, that over drooling, labored breathing, big,
Speaker 3: wide chested stance. You're going to have to bring them
Speaker 3: to the er, so it's not worth the risk.
Speaker 2: I remember as a kid, and I couldn't tell if
Speaker 2: it was Channel four, five or seven, but one of
Speaker 2: the weather people had a story on in the middle
Speaker 2: of summer. The pavement was so hot you could fry
Speaker 2: an egg, and they cracked open an egg right on
Speaker 2: a downtown sidewalk. If it's that hot to fry an egg,
Speaker 2: imagine if you are walking barefoot, as your dogs have to,
Speaker 2: their paws are not meant to absorb that type of heat.
Speaker 2: Talk to the listeners about what you can do to
Speaker 2: protect your pet's feet from walking on hot pavement.
Speaker 3: So the general rule of thumb is if you can
Speaker 3: put the backside of your hand down on pavement and
Speaker 3: it's comfortable, then they'll be okay. But if you hold
Speaker 3: it down there for five ten seconds and it's burning,
Speaker 3: I mean, that's their paws burning. And so we see
Speaker 3: lots of burns, and you know, cares of those popads
Speaker 3: because of heat. They do sell plenty of shoes, they sell,
Speaker 3: there's tons of products for that, but really keeping them
Speaker 3: off of pavement walking, you know, like I said, walking
Speaker 3: in the morning or the evening is really helpful. And
Speaker 3: you know they have go on grass. Go on grass.
Speaker 3: It's more fun anyway, you know you.
Speaker 2: Can, yes, but some people necessarily don't have that option.
Speaker 2: Let's say you live in the core of the city.
Speaker 2: There's not necessarily you might have to walk I half
Speaker 2: a block to get to the park area with his grass.
Speaker 3: Yeah, then I would go with the shoes. So they
Speaker 3: do sell dog shoes. Some are better than others, and
Speaker 3: that you just want to make sure that they're good
Speaker 3: rubber sold bottom ones that stay on nicely, and then
Speaker 3: just making sure that when you get home and they're
Speaker 3: not wearing them anymore, that their feet are knife and dry,
Speaker 3: and you know it didn't gather too much moisture in
Speaker 3: between the toes or anything like that.
Speaker 2: All right, As you know, I am a cat owner,
Speaker 2: so I want to talk more now about cats. And
Speaker 2: I don't know why people put a cat on a leash,
Speaker 2: because that's just not natural for them. But when we
Speaker 2: come back from the break, let's talk about cats or
Speaker 2: anything you want to talk about out there where I've
Speaker 2: already got a call from Weymouth six one, seven, two, five, four,
Speaker 2: ten thirty or eight eight, eight, nine to nine, ten thirty.
Speaker 2: This is Nightside. My name is Morgan, Morgan White Junior,
Speaker 2: and I've got Mario McCann with me, and we're talking
Speaker 2: about your pets. Time and temperature nine thirty sixty six degrees.
Speaker 1: You're on the Night Side with Dan Ray on w
Speaker 1: B Boston's.
Speaker 2: Yes, you've got night Side and Dan is not here.
Speaker 2: I'm Morgan, my guest Mariel McCann and tell you what
Speaker 2: Mariel before we go to the question I put to
Speaker 2: you before we took the break. Let's take a phone
Speaker 2: call because she's been holding for five minutes. Linda and Weymouth,
Speaker 2: thank you for calling in. Welcome to Night's Side.
Speaker 4: Hi, greetings, enjoy the show you. I have neither a
Speaker 4: cat nor a dog, but I'm a dog can't lover.
Speaker 4: And I listened to your radio and i've stationed and
Speaker 4: I've heard in the morning the mosquitoes are out. Yet
Speaker 4: I just heard from her the ticks are not out
Speaker 4: in the morning. Can you help me flip the coin better?
Speaker 3: Yeah, so that's not the morning and evening advice. That's
Speaker 3: for the heat itself ticks her out all day. It
Speaker 3: really feels like every day. Now, even in the winter time,
Speaker 3: we're getting some breakthroughs. Anytime it gets above I think
Speaker 3: thirty surrey thirty six degrees, we start seeing ticks wake
Speaker 3: up and start looking for a meal. So they're a
Speaker 3: risk regardless the morning and evening. That's for temperature and
Speaker 3: more shade at those times too, So it's for those safeties.
Speaker 3: You're going to want to use your tick prevention year
Speaker 3: round regardless. And mosquitoes as well, because as we know,
Speaker 3: they can carry the heartworm disease.
Speaker 4: Okay, yeah, because maybe I misheard it or missed one
Speaker 4: of the words on it, but thank you for clarifying.
Speaker 4: So morning and eating are okay odd times. But check
Speaker 4: check your animals anyways.
Speaker 3: Yeah, absolutely, yeah, absolutely, especially.
Speaker 2: I know what if you have an outdoor dog. But
Speaker 2: then I mean you've got a doggie door in your
Speaker 2: kitchen and the dog comes and goes on their own
Speaker 2: into the backyard. If you have a backyard bushes and
Speaker 2: trees and shrubs, you may have tick issues.
Speaker 5: Check the check the animal always, every day, every day,
Speaker 5: even if you have indoor pets only and you're coming
Speaker 5: in and out, you're out in the garden and you
Speaker 5: come inside.
Speaker 3: Sometimes we'll bring them in and then they'll stay on
Speaker 3: the pets.
Speaker 4: So that's yeah, I get nervous. Excuse me, I get
Speaker 4: nervous just walking around on the grass.
Speaker 3: Right, yeah, I understand all but you know you don't
Speaker 3: want to stay indoors all the time. Go out and
Speaker 3: have fun, but you know, be aware of your rests.
Speaker 3: Absolutely all right, Linda, thank you for the call.
Speaker 2: Hope we've helped.
Speaker 4: Thanks for clarifying. Thank you, bye, thank you.
Speaker 2: All right. I asked this question before the people that
Speaker 2: attach a leash to a cat. It's you and I
Speaker 2: both know it takes a lot to train a cat too.
Speaker 3: No, when they're little, No, when baby someone love it.
Speaker 3: I have no problem with that. I don't minding a
Speaker 3: baby carriage or a dog and a baby carriage. Oh yeah, no,
Speaker 3: I've learned. I've learned to love it. Absolutely all right.
Speaker 2: I'm wrong, but I just think you're not wrong. I
Speaker 2: just think that some felines, I mean, you see the
Speaker 2: well you used to see the lion tamers and the
Speaker 2: circus or the old Sikh Freed and Roy and Vegas
Speaker 2: shows they're dealing with Yeah, yeah, you're dealing with four
Speaker 2: hundred pounds tigers and lions and whatnot. I think that
Speaker 2: felines resist training when it comes to that sort of thing.
Speaker 2: I could be wrong.
Speaker 3: Yeah, you might be. You might be on this one.
Speaker 2: Okay, All right now I'm gonna shift right in mid sentence.
Speaker 3: Let's talk about got you trained great?
Speaker 2: Has me trained great? Has me trained? Believe me? Let's
Speaker 2: let's talk about food. You see these commercials on TV
Speaker 2: telling us that food X, type of food X is
Speaker 2: better than type of food? Why coming from you? What
Speaker 2: are the better foods for our pets? Deal with dogs
Speaker 2: first and then cats?
Speaker 3: Well, this can be wildly controversial, and I am fine
Speaker 3: with whatever people want to do as long as they're
Speaker 3: doing it right. So if you're gonna cook it home, great,
Speaker 3: work with your vet, Work with a vet that will
Speaker 3: do that. Work with a system like balance it dot com,
Speaker 3: something that will help you to make sure that you're
Speaker 3: doing it balanced and correctly. You know, if you're doing
Speaker 3: raw food, make sure that it's food that's made to
Speaker 3: be raw. You can't just go to the grocery store
Speaker 3: and pick up any food that is supposed to be
Speaker 3: cooked fully and then feed it to your animal. It's
Speaker 3: dangerous for you and the animal. For more of the
Speaker 3: processed kibbles and things like that. I personally, I think
Speaker 3: that you know, switching every so often is good for them.
Speaker 3: Doing that slowly, although that can be very controversial. Some
Speaker 3: can have some GI issues and some problems with that.
Speaker 3: So you know, you have to find out from your vet,
Speaker 3: whoever your trusted person is, who is in line with
Speaker 3: you on what kind of food you want to be
Speaker 3: feeding a dog. And if you're already feeding something and
Speaker 3: everything is wonderful, great stick with that. Want to commercial
Speaker 3: change your mind or anything like that unless your vet
Speaker 3: tells you.
Speaker 2: There are these commercials that tell you this is food
Speaker 2: meant to be stored in the refrigerator. And I remember
Speaker 2: when I was young and I have a dog, cannil
Speaker 2: rationing out the can was good enough. But nowadays that's
Speaker 2: just not the way to look at what you should
Speaker 2: give to your dog.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean, there really is pros and cons. So,
Speaker 3: you know, the canned food has less of hydration. But sometimes,
Speaker 3: you know, we talk about different additives and what the
Speaker 3: process was to get it canned and get it shelf stable,
Speaker 3: and you know, when look dry stuff with the additives
Speaker 3: are that sort of thing for you know, I personally
Speaker 3: I home cook for my three dogs, but I don't
Speaker 3: for my two cats because it's too much to do
Speaker 3: properly for cats for me at the point.
Speaker 2: Oh, the cats are calling you all kinds of name
Speaker 2: under their breath. Yeah, the dogs get cooked food. What
Speaker 2: do we get?
Speaker 3: The cats will get some, but they it's hard to
Speaker 3: balance the cat's diet without getting kind of gross. So
Speaker 3: we do us personally. We do the majority of gently
Speaker 3: cooked whole foods, but it is prepackaged. It is a
Speaker 3: company that makes it for cats and then the dogs.
Speaker 3: We home cooks for the dogs because we have nothing
Speaker 3: better to do. I guess I'm not sure.
Speaker 2: Okay, all right. I remember the old days when everything
Speaker 2: was from Purina and then all of a sudden gravy
Speaker 2: train came around, which, because it was an activity, you
Speaker 2: put the gravy train nuggets for like for bitter term
Speaker 2: in your feeding bowl and add water and now it's
Speaker 2: supposed to be a gravy type of treat for your doggie.
Speaker 3: Yeah, you might be aging yourself. I think I remember
Speaker 3: those commercials.
Speaker 1: I am aging.
Speaker 2: I am aging myself. Yes, And I'm going to.
Speaker 3: Tell you I remember the burgers. There are little burgers. Yeah,
Speaker 3: I grew up.
Speaker 2: Well, I remember that. You used to have to break
Speaker 2: them apart.
Speaker 3: Yeah. Yeah, she loved those. She loved those. She lived
Speaker 3: a long time. But it's different. Things are different now.
Speaker 3: We're breeding dogs differently. They're more sensitive than they used
Speaker 3: to be. There's you know we're we're doing. We're doing
Speaker 3: a lot of breeding. I'm going to I rescue English bulldogs.
Speaker 3: So we have a lot of problems we're up against.
Speaker 2: I'm going to tell you a quick story. Then they
Speaker 2: have to take a break. I used to own this
Speaker 2: is in the eighties. Brother and sister German shepherds. He
Speaker 2: was bigger than she. He was easier for me to train.
Speaker 2: I had them. I had bought books and videotape on
Speaker 2: how to train German shepherds, both to voice commands and
Speaker 2: to hand gestures. You live in the city. You want
Speaker 2: your dog to understand commands instantly. When it came defeeding them,
Speaker 2: I tried each of them with their own bowl. She
Speaker 2: would eat all of his and then half of hers,
Speaker 2: leaving him half.
Speaker 3: She sounds smart, and then.
Speaker 2: I figured, okay, I'll work this out. I just had
Speaker 2: one bowl. She would eat first, eat half of what
Speaker 2: I put in the bowl, leaving him half. He knew
Speaker 2: not to go near the bowl until she had finished
Speaker 2: what she was going to consume. That was the system,
Speaker 2: the way they had worked it out as brother and sister.
Speaker 2: She was in charge.
Speaker 3: It sounds like an excellent partnership.
Speaker 2: Yet and still he was the alpha dog when we
Speaker 2: went out, and he would be first to obey a
Speaker 2: command of stay, go, let's move. And in the house
Speaker 2: she was in charge.
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, yes, don't don't you see that routinely? That
Speaker 3: makes perfect sense to me.
Speaker 2: Well, it took a while for them to train me
Speaker 2: to that level of behavior. Anyway, let me take my
Speaker 2: final break. Anyone else might want to do what Linda did.
Speaker 2: You want to call in and speak to Marion McCann,
Speaker 2: who is here to help us understand better ways to
Speaker 2: treat our pets, especially during the summer. Six one, seven, two, five, four,
Speaker 2: ten thirty eight, eight, nine to nine, ten thirty. This
Speaker 2: is night Side. I am Morgan. You should know who
Speaker 2: you are. Time and temperature nine forty five sixty six degrees.
Speaker 1: Now back to Dan Ray live from the Window World
Speaker 1: Nightside Studios on WBZ News Radio.
Speaker 2: Dan is not here. He'll be back on Monday. I'm Morgan.
Speaker 2: I am here and my guest Mario McCann is with
Speaker 2: me until the top of the hour. Bradley J. Will
Speaker 2: be here next hour for you legendary fans of BC
Speaker 2: and WBC in history. Bradley J. Will be here shortly
Speaker 2: after ten o'clock and Mario, we have a call from
Speaker 2: the Catskills upstate New York. So Margie and the Catskills,
Speaker 2: thanks for taking the time to call. Welcome to night Side.
Speaker 6: Thank you. My first question will be I imagine Massachusetts
Speaker 6: has a DEC agency.
Speaker 2: What is the EC.
Speaker 6: It's an agency in New York State, the Department of
Speaker 6: Environmental Conservation. Okay, is there one in Massachusetts?
Speaker 2: Mario?
Speaker 3: Well, I'm under the Department of Fish and Wildlife, so
Speaker 3: that's who we get all of our rules and support from,
Speaker 3: as well as RAM, which is the Wildlife Rehovers of
Speaker 3: Massachusetts Association of Massachusetts. So that's who I am generally under.
Speaker 6: Well, I'm glad there's not a DEC in your area.
Speaker 6: Their publicity is if you have a wounded animal, you
Speaker 6: see an injured dear people in New York State call
Speaker 6: the DEC. Those of us that have been around fifty
Speaker 6: years or more like myself. That's the last agency of
Speaker 6: the government you want to call. Their number one goal
Speaker 6: is to get as the animal. So it's just unbelievable.
Speaker 6: If they show up at your house, that's the end
Speaker 6: of the animal. So we find that working with our
Speaker 6: local police department, if there's a problem, they know the
Speaker 6: local animals, they will try everything to preserve the animal's life.
Speaker 3: Okay, So in Massachusetts, we do have the Department of
Speaker 3: Environmental Protection, so we do have environmental officers and our
Speaker 3: everyone that I've come in contact with has been wonderful.
Speaker 3: They'll only you know, they only euthanize if it's in
Speaker 3: the best interest of the animal. Deer that you mentioned,
Speaker 3: there's lots more rules for deer because they are so
Speaker 3: much more dangerous with like one on one with people,
Speaker 3: so rehabbing them. The instances that we find that they're
Speaker 3: rehabible deer are much lower than there are other species.
Speaker 3: But our EPO, so our Environmental Protection officers are really
Speaker 3: wonderful in Massachusetts thankfully. So you know, I'm glad that
Speaker 3: we don't deal with the same problems, and you found
Speaker 3: a way around it to find trusted officials near you
Speaker 3: to help with that. But I've heard wonderful things out
Speaker 3: of the New York Wildlife rehabber is also though you
Speaker 3: guys have a great network too.
Speaker 6: You know it's great we have. Thirty years ago was
Speaker 6: the first time I saw a deer on my property.
Speaker 6: I have only two acres, but at borders a far
Speaker 6: not deer, but bear, and I haven't seen a bear
Speaker 6: in thirty years.
Speaker 3: Now.
Speaker 6: There's bears all over town anytime the day. Do you
Speaker 6: have bears up there?
Speaker 2: I love that Massachusetts have plenty of bear.
Speaker 6: I love it. I love it.
Speaker 3: Black bear we actually did for the first Yeah, black bear.
Speaker 3: We had them for the first time last year on
Speaker 3: the property. And I just in love, just in love.
Speaker 3: But we you know my you know, my family took
Speaker 3: me to Maine all my childhood. It really is one
Speaker 3: of my favorites. Maybe someday they'll be down here enough
Speaker 3: that I can rehab, you know, get special permission to
Speaker 3: rehab some black bear. That would be a dream.
Speaker 6: MARGIN tell you one little story before I let you go.
Speaker 2: Margie, hold on, hold on, now, let you tell you
Speaker 2: a story. You live in the cat Skills, right, I
Speaker 2: know that the Catskills as a resort area has changed
Speaker 2: drastically over the past thirty forty years. Did you or
Speaker 2: do you live near the property that was called Grossingers.
Speaker 6: Oh, that's a see, the cats skills are very different.
Speaker 6: I'm in Woodstock, which is very rural. Sixty nine percent
Speaker 6: of our town is Floris. But I all everyone knows
Speaker 6: Grossingers and all the resorts, and it's really funny. They're
Speaker 6: all ethnic. So you have the Jewish cat skills and
Speaker 6: the Irish at skills, and to this day there still
Speaker 6: is that going to the cat skills. But you know
Speaker 6: what did in all those resorts when airplane trips came in.
Speaker 6: Before that, there was railroads and cars, and people came
Speaker 6: to the cat skills once they could fly off someplace.
Speaker 6: That's what killed it.
Speaker 2: Well, I used to play groceringers. I played grocerers on
Speaker 2: three different occasions.
Speaker 6: What a beautiful place it was.
Speaker 2: And this is a real fast story. Then I'll let
Speaker 2: you tell the story you started. My then wife and
Speaker 2: my son, who was two years old. I brought them
Speaker 2: with me on one of my trips up there, and
Speaker 2: my son couldn't walk as of yet, and he was
Speaker 2: crawling around all the rooms. Obviously wild wall carpet and
Speaker 2: his favorite toy was up on the bed and he
Speaker 2: was on the floor. The first time he ever took
Speaker 2: a step was at Grossingers. He got up, walked over
Speaker 2: to the bed, reached for his toy, got his toy,
Speaker 2: went back to play on the floor. True story. Now,
Speaker 2: MAR'TI tell you a story.
Speaker 6: Okay, it's very brief. The last bear, well, no, not
Speaker 6: the last one, because they're all over. But I'm very
Speaker 6: fortunate on this one. For some reason, I didn't open
Speaker 6: my door in the morning. I decided to look out
Speaker 6: the window before I opened the door, and I look
Speaker 6: out and there are three of the cutest small black
Speaker 6: bear cubs sitting down in my driveway. And I thought,
Speaker 6: thank god, I hadn't open the door, and I'm just
Speaker 6: watching them. They're sitting there, very attentive, looking into my carport,
Speaker 6: and I figure, what's going on? In my carport? I
Speaker 6: had empty bins, these huge bins, well they came flying
Speaker 6: out through the air and gte were empty, and the
Speaker 6: three little cubs were taking it all in as education.
Speaker 6: And then the huge mama, she must have been two
Speaker 6: three hundred pounds, she came out disgusted. There was nothing
Speaker 6: in the bins, and she gathered them up and then
Speaker 6: I really worry because they'd have no road since whatsoever.
Speaker 6: You know, I was so lucky to see them all
Speaker 6: cross the road. But that's my beer cub tail. Thank
Speaker 6: you so much, Morgan, Margie, thank you for taking the
Speaker 6: time to call.
Speaker 2: Don't be such a stranger. Good night. Now that goes
Speaker 2: Margie and Mario. One more time. I want you to
Speaker 2: tell people your title, how they can get in touch
Speaker 2: with you, either electronically or your phone number, and any
Speaker 2: of the details you want to share with my audience.
Speaker 2: So I'll give you a full minute.
Speaker 3: Sure. So, hair offodog dot org is our website. We
Speaker 3: are on Instagram and Facebook as well, and that's where
Speaker 3: we usually post most of our updates and you know
Speaker 3: what animals we're getting in and what procedures we're doing.
Speaker 3: Sometimes in the busy season it gets quieter because I
Speaker 3: either have to take care of animals or post on Facebook,
Speaker 3: you know, one or the other. And then that's also
Speaker 3: where you can donate a list of supplies, Amazon, wish lists,
Speaker 3: Venmo and PayPal however you'd like to help. We also
Speaker 3: connect with other rehabers in the state of Massachusetts. We
Speaker 3: couldn't do it without other rehabers. We're always looking for
Speaker 3: more rehabbers, so by all means, please email me at
Speaker 3: Hair ofthe Doog Farm at gmail dot com. And especially
Speaker 3: if you're interested in becoming a rehaber. If you have
Speaker 3: any medical background or animal background, it's a plus, but
Speaker 3: it's not necessary. But there's always a need for more
Speaker 3: of us.
Speaker 2: And here and hair is spelled like the rabbit h
Speaker 2: A r.
Speaker 3: E h A r e. Yeah, people don't. I'm surprised
Speaker 3: that people that don't know the saying of hair of
Speaker 3: the dog take a hair of the dog that bit you, right,
Speaker 3: and the old hangover cure, but so we called it
Speaker 3: hair of the dog, you know, to keep you from
Speaker 3: being hungover. And so that's our joy is doing this.
Speaker 2: Mariol Thank you very much, and I'm going to have
Speaker 2: you on again in the fall to talk about separate
Speaker 2: issues of fall and winter for your pets. You take
Speaker 2: care and I've really enjoyed this.
Speaker 3: Thank you, Thank you so much for having me.
Speaker 2: Bye bye, Mario. All right, everybody, Bradley Jy. Next hour
Speaker 2: time nine point fifty eight, temperature sixty six degrees