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<v Speaker 1>Welcome to the Parenting Roundabout podcast. I'm Terry Morrow and

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<v Speaker 1>I'm Catherine Jileco. As parents and parenting writers, we can't

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<v Speaker 1>help but see everything through a parenting lens. But as

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<v Speaker 1>our kids have become adults, we find ourselves more interested

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<v Speaker 1>in getting caught up on movies and streaming. Then I'm

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<v Speaker 1>going over the same parenting topics over and over.

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<v Speaker 2>So since we're pretty sure we can find parenting wisdom anywhere,

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<v Speaker 2>we're going to talk about what we're watching, what we

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<v Speaker 2>thought about it, and maybe what we can learn from it,

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<v Speaker 2>if only what not to do. Watch and listen along,

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<v Speaker 2>and let's all make like we're doing something important for

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<v Speaker 2>our families.

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<v Speaker 1>Each Tuesday, we bring you a watch or rewatch of

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<v Speaker 1>an older entertainment property, And for this week of February tenth,

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<v Speaker 1>we're continuing with Lost season two, episode eight, Collision, which

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<v Speaker 1>turned out to be kind of a more dramatic title

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<v Speaker 1>than the episode actually delivered on right particularly hard. Everybody

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<v Speaker 1>understood that that it was a shooting, Shannon was an accident,

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<v Speaker 1>and once Sayid calmed down, everybody understood, and so they

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<v Speaker 1>just sort of was more like an infiltration. Small groups

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<v Speaker 1>of the tail section met with small groups of the

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<v Speaker 1>mid section folks, and.

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<v Speaker 2>Then we got the the romance novel ending of running

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<v Speaker 2>to each other across the sand, both Rose and Bernard

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<v Speaker 2>and Jin and Son.

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<v Speaker 1>Yes, I'm gonna call that that ending part the ah Montage.

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<v Speaker 1>First we had Awe Sawyer and Kate, and then Ah

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<v Speaker 1>Vincent and Michael carrying Shannon's dead body, and Ana Lucia.

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<v Speaker 1>It was super fortunate that Jack watch the previous lease

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<v Speaker 1>for this episode all everything that has happened. He remembers

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<v Speaker 1>her name efficiently that when it is said, he kind

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<v Speaker 1>of prooks up and says, well, she looks like Kate

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<v Speaker 1>and swear or hooking up. Maybe I have a chance, girl,

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<v Speaker 1>show me where is she? Where is she? It's that okay, just.

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<v Speaker 2>That whole like them staring at each other in the jungle. Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>Wow, what you guys spent like five minutes together in

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<v Speaker 1>a bar. It's not like you used to be married, right,

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<v Speaker 1>But I will allow it just to move things along, right,

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<v Speaker 1>Let's go, let's go, let's go, Come on, come on,

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<v Speaker 1>trusting and you were suspicious about the lengthiness of the pause.

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<v Speaker 1>After Aunt Lucia was asked if she had any kids, yes,

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<v Speaker 1>being meaningful. It happened again here, you know, she did

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<v Speaker 1>somebody asked her something in this one also, and there

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<v Speaker 1>was a lot pause, right, And so finally we get

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<v Speaker 1>the reason for it, which is that she was shot

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<v Speaker 1>in a police She was a police officer. She was

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<v Speaker 1>shot and she was pregnant. Yes, And it's like, do

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<v Speaker 1>we know her well enough to really care? At that

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<v Speaker 1>this pointment, it seemed like not a lot of payoff

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<v Speaker 1>for killing a baby, because Okay, I mean, she's already

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<v Speaker 1>a disaster. We can already see that she has a

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<v Speaker 1>lost soul and if nothing else anger management issues, they

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<v Speaker 1>needed that too, right? Did they need that too? Think

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<v Speaker 1>they need that? Maybe it pays off somewhere later, but

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<v Speaker 1>it just seemed like, eh, what else can we do?

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<v Speaker 1>What else can we?

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<v Speaker 2>Oh? I know, right right here we go.

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<v Speaker 1>Certainly she could have been she could have killed the

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<v Speaker 1>guy because he shot her up and presumably she had

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<v Speaker 1>a long recuperation. They could have just played that up.

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<v Speaker 1>Maybe he killed her partner or something like that. I

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<v Speaker 1>don't think we needed to have the baby angle. But yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>I honestly can't remember if it pays off, but I

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<v Speaker 1>sort of presented that right.

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<v Speaker 2>And just because because you know you had him right there. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>like wasn't sending him to jail, Like they made it

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<v Speaker 2>clear that all it was going to take was her saying, yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>that's him.

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<v Speaker 1>And well, I guess from her point of view, stuff

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<v Speaker 1>happens and people get off and she wanted to make

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<v Speaker 1>sure that his sentence was carried out swiftly.

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<v Speaker 2>And then I guess she's like, I'm off to Australia. Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>I suppose some of those things will be filled in

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<v Speaker 1>in the future episodes. I can't honestly remember, but okay,

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<v Speaker 1>at least it was it was the It was a

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<v Speaker 1>flashback about some of the somebody different we'll find out

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<v Speaker 1>about later about who netweek's flashback is about.

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<v Speaker 2>And I think we can tell from the title of

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<v Speaker 2>the episode.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, it's interesting to find out about new people.

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<v Speaker 1>But Kate, what's the deal with Kate?

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<v Speaker 2>Remember Kate?

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I know about as much of the deal of

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<v Speaker 1>Kate that I want to know. But okay, whatever, there's more,

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<v Speaker 1>there's more for you. It's like you're going to bring

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<v Speaker 1>a new chicken here. I need another storyline, come on us.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, what they did have from Anna and Lucia.

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<v Speaker 1>Two women one what is it they used to do

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<v Speaker 1>the extra hot great people to two actors one part

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<v Speaker 1>or something like that.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I don't remember. But well, if you're having some

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<v Speaker 2>sort of parallels, I mean there's many parallels. But uh,

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<v Speaker 2>Kate has a mommy issue, which we know about. Yes,

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<v Speaker 2>and Ana Lucia obviously does too, because mom is not

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<v Speaker 2>just her mom, she's her boss YEPS, the captain of

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<v Speaker 2>the police department or whatever piece of it that Alicia

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<v Speaker 1>So right, yeah, yeah, there's gonna be trouble between them too,

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<v Speaker 1>I think, or else they will be fast friends. I

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<v Speaker 1>can't remember which one, but.

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<v Speaker 2>Kate and Alicia.

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<v Speaker 1>Kate and Alicia. Yeah, but they do sort of have

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<v Speaker 1>the same vibe. Yes, I wonder if Anilucia has an

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<v Speaker 1>airplane somewhere in her.

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<v Speaker 2>Hers is a little toy police car.

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<v Speaker 1>Yes, there you go. It's a little matchbox car. Yes,

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<v Speaker 1>we're a little baby toy of some sort. Yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>Well you started off by saying, how you know it

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<v Speaker 2>was not so much a collision of just a you know,

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<v Speaker 2>a light tap, but you know the scene of Locke

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<v Speaker 2>encountering mister Echo for the first time, just like that,

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<v Speaker 2>you be sir. They both were just like, hmm, I

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<v Speaker 2>wonder how this is gonna go.

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<v Speaker 1>So, so you're there, oddball, huh, okay, all right, nice

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<v Speaker 1>to meet you.

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<v Speaker 2>A lot.

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<v Speaker 1>Looks like the kind of guy who would just stopped

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<v Speaker 1>talking for forty days.

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<v Speaker 2>Absolutely, yeah, yep, I can definitely see that everybody would cheer.

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<v Speaker 1>But okay, yeah, so that's it's going to be interesting

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<v Speaker 1>to see how everybody, uh, everybody infiltrates here. But it

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<v Speaker 1>was not as dramatic a thing as I had expected,

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<v Speaker 1>which is just fine from a parenting point of view. Yes,

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<v Speaker 1>we may have talked about this a little bit last week.

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<v Speaker 1>I can't remember if she was just on this particular note,

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<v Speaker 1>but on a Lucia she shot somebody, she's tied somebody

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<v Speaker 1>else up. There's gonna be trouble. But she's like, I

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<v Speaker 1>know what I'm doing. I know what I'm doing. It's like, oh,

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<v Speaker 1>I have said that, that's a that's a mom thing.

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<v Speaker 1>Things look really bad right now, but I'm on top

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<v Speaker 1>of it. I got in you know, don't question me

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<v Speaker 1>feeling when you know you're going the wrong way, but

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<v Speaker 1>you're committed, right, so you know, what can you do?

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<v Speaker 1>People are believing in you. You gotta sell it and

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<v Speaker 1>when everybody is pretty sure that you are completely in

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<v Speaker 1>over your.

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<v Speaker 3>Head, which was also nope, nope it going back to Kate,

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<v Speaker 3>you know, I mean that's kind of how she was

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<v Speaker 3>when she was like, oh, I can get sway to

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<v Speaker 3>swallow this pill, Like.

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<v Speaker 2>Like, how did she know that she could do that?

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<v Speaker 2>You know?

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<v Speaker 1>And also therefore she gives all the guys their pills.

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<v Speaker 2>They made it seem like, clearly you can't. He can't

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<v Speaker 2>just instantly recover from one dose of antibiotics, Like he's

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<v Speaker 2>got to be on that stuff for ten days, right, Like, yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>is she gonna do this? Well?

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<v Speaker 1>I think that's like Jack is like, well, I gotta

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<v Speaker 1>get out. Here is any other ladies around?

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<v Speaker 2>Hey?

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<v Speaker 1>I remember you.

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<v Speaker 2>I feel like Sawyer is definitely gonna be like, well,

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<v Speaker 2>where's Kate. I can't take my medicine without her?

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<v Speaker 1>I need my snuggles exactly. Mom. Oh yeah, do you

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<v Speaker 1>have any secrets for getting kids to swallow pills? I

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<v Speaker 1>was thinking about that while I was watching that. How

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<v Speaker 1>does one do that? I mean, the dog, I've pretty

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<v Speaker 1>got pretty much got the dog to take her pill.

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<v Speaker 1>I have to act like it's the most delicious thing

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<v Speaker 1>in the world. Right, and like maybe I'm gonna eat

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<v Speaker 1>it for her, right, And then she suddenly wants it

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<v Speaker 1>like crazy. Putting it in peanut butter was not sufficient.

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<v Speaker 1>She would look off the peanut butter and spit out

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<v Speaker 1>the pill. Oh see that's so yum, wonderful human food.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm gonna eat this.

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<v Speaker 2>Oops.

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<v Speaker 1>I dropped it on the floor. All over that that happened.

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<v Speaker 2>No, I think my kids were pretty okay about it.

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<v Speaker 2>I do remember when my daughter had her appendix out

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<v Speaker 2>and she had to you know, they were always poking

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<v Speaker 2>her for medicines or ivy or whatever, blood tests, and

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<v Speaker 2>at the second hospital, at the one, the local one,

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<v Speaker 2>every time they poked her with a needle, they would

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<v Speaker 2>give her either a beanie baby or a Webkin's toy.

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<v Speaker 2>And so by the time, yeah, the collection was significant.

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<v Speaker 1>And at some point the kid starts looking for the

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<v Speaker 1>needle and going shot shot shut.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, don't give me that, give me that. But I

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<v Speaker 2>don't think they have I don't think they had beanie

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<v Speaker 2>babies in the hatch. Do they know? If you call

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<v Speaker 2>that thing?

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<v Speaker 1>Though they seem to have quite a lot of they

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<v Speaker 1>may just open another door and find oh, babies over here.

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<v Speaker 2>Right.

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<v Speaker 1>It was so weird to me when they when they

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<v Speaker 1>were bringing Sawyer in and they brought him down to

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<v Speaker 1>the hatch, I'm like, oh, right, they have a place

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<v Speaker 1>to go now, right, they just bring him to the beach.

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<v Speaker 1>I thought everybody was gonna see him.

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<v Speaker 2>But no, they have an indoors now.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh that's gonna freak him out.

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<v Speaker 2>Where What exactly happened while I was gone?

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, yeah, indeed, yep. There was a scene where Annac

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<v Speaker 1>was coming back to work and they called her to

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<v Speaker 1>go to a certain room, and you know, of course

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<v Speaker 1>that there's going to be a party without even having

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<v Speaker 1>the mother and character having to tell you they made you,

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<v Speaker 1>they got you a cake. Try to act surprised. I

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<v Speaker 1>feel like I've done that with my kids. It's like

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<v Speaker 1>it's just a lot to keep something from them or

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<v Speaker 1>and also because you can't necessarily expect them to have

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<v Speaker 1>the reaction that you want them to have. Yeah, So

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<v Speaker 1>it's like, if it's a surprise party, you have to

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<v Speaker 1>look surprised. If it's you know, friends over, you have

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<v Speaker 1>to look happy. If it's if it's relatives, you have

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<v Speaker 1>to go hug everybody. Let's let's just run this down,

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<v Speaker 1>shall we? Right here, there's a lot of surprises here

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<v Speaker 1>in our house. They're gonna expect you to be surprised.

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<v Speaker 1>But I would like to just run down the let's

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<v Speaker 1>run through this. Let's practice. Shall we practice?

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<v Speaker 1>Was no If they'd known, they could have made a cake.

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<v Speaker 1>Is there like some dorma cake mix? Is there some

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<v Speaker 2>You know that frosting keeps forever and.

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<v Speaker 1>Ever dharma frosting from the fifties, as long as the

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<v Speaker 2>You are good for it.

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<v Speaker 1>I bet Rose could figure out how to make a cake.

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<v Speaker 2>She's resourceful, that one is. She is.

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<v Speaker 1>Her faith in Bernard still being alive was proven to

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah. Are they gonna go back to her and be like, okay, now,

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<v Speaker 1>And yeah? Yeah, somehow?

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<v Speaker 2>I don't think so.

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<v Speaker 1>this whole episode for I kept thinking isn't Bernard at

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<v Speaker 1>some point just gonna say, you know what, I'm leaving.

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<v Speaker 1>I want to go find my wife.

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<v Speaker 2>Right at this point, I'm we're like twenty minutes away.

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<v Speaker 2>I've had enough.

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<v Speaker 1>It's like, how long is he gonna sit there and

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<v Speaker 1>watch her to decide what she's gonna do and not

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<v Speaker 1>just like seep into the bush like Homer Simpson disappearing

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<v Speaker 1>into his head exactly, because yeah, come on, he's been

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<v Speaker 1>waiting quite some time for this.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>When they were having the scene on the beach where

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<v Speaker 1>reunions so each one could get its aw. But this

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<v Speaker 1>required Son to be like washing some laundry. Why, like

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<v Speaker 1>three or four reunions are going on, and the large

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<v Speaker 1>number of people had joined the company, and she's still

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<v Speaker 2>I'm gonna have to ask Rose how to get this.

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<v Speaker 1>Out so that she can she can have just turned

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<v Speaker 1>at this point she saw Michael.

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<v Speaker 2>She saw Michael exactly, So she's.

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<v Speaker 1>Gonna be standing there at the end of that jungle,

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<v Speaker 1>going jin where are you? But no, you know, she

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<v Speaker 2>I leave. She found her ring.

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<v Speaker 1>Yes, oh boy, yeah, that would have been a problem.

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<v Speaker 1>It was kind of nice, that kind of sweet when

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<v Speaker 1>Vincent came out to greet Michael. But you also know

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<v Speaker 1>that Vincent is going to be going.

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<v Speaker 2>So where's what?

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<v Speaker 1>Where's what? Running back and forth jungle and back and

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<v Speaker 1>forth and back and forth until Michael is just weeping,

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<v Speaker 1>and you know.

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<v Speaker 2>Yes, because everyone else got these reunions, but Michael did not.

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<v Speaker 1>Michael didn't. Michael got his son's dog basically, which is

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<v Speaker 1>better than nothing.

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<v Speaker 3>I mean.

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<v Speaker 1>Sure, but not the reunion he would like it was.

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<v Speaker 1>It was a nice, uh little shuffling of chest pieces

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<v Speaker 1>to get everybody together now so that we move forward

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<v Speaker 2>Can't wait because we still have others out there.

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<v Speaker 1>Yes, yes we do. And I don't think Libby has

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<v Speaker 1>yet revealed what her profession is, right because the line

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<v Speaker 1>is warm yeah left, Yes, she's got to set up

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<v Speaker 1>her little lucy booth on the beach, you know, psychiatric help.

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<v Speaker 1>One coconut and come on, and she's gonna have to

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<v Speaker 1>raise her raids a whole fish or something, that's right. Yeah, yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>oh man, well she's not gonna be hurting for work,

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<v Speaker 1>busy lady. So next week, as previously spoiled a little bit,

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<v Speaker 1>I just I just can't with this. Next Tuesday we

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<v Speaker 1>will continue with season two at the so nine have

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<v Speaker 1>lost what Kate did? I don't care.

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<v Speaker 2>And also I don't really believe you that you're going

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<v Speaker 2>to spill it all at this point.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, it's like these people like contractually obligated to get

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<v Speaker 1>X number of episodes about themselves in the course of

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<v Speaker 1>the season. We just have two of them about people

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<v Speaker 1>we haven't met yet. Could we have a mister Echo

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<v Speaker 1>episode before we get a Kate episode. Kate's already had

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<v Speaker 1>like three four They can wait another week?

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah?

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<v Speaker 1>Oh well, you know what, there's lots of time. There's

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<v Speaker 1>all kinds of time. Nobody's getting off that island anytime

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<v Speaker 1>very soon. So we will just wait with baited breath

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<v Speaker 1>to see what did Kate do? What do you think

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<v Speaker 1>she did? What did she do?

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<v Speaker 2>And did she get that little plane back.

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<v Speaker 1>How did you learn how to give pills to adult patients?

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<v Speaker 1>Was she a nurse?

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<v Speaker 3>Oh boy?

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, well, don't wants to know what Kate did as well?

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah?

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<v Speaker 1>Did involve a dog treat of some sweet Did she

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<v Speaker 1>take a dog for a walk?

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<v Speaker 2>Possible?

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, Well, we will see you back here tomorrow discuss

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