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<v Speaker 1>Baby, you are my gamester too. It takes a little tangle.

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<v Speaker 1>You don't want mess with me? Mess with me a

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<v Speaker 1>gangster too, baby, game.

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<v Speaker 2>Statoo for good warnings.

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<v Speaker 3>This podcast is designed to take you outside of your

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<v Speaker 3>comfort zone and make you question reality.

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<v Speaker 4>Listening Discretion is a vibe.

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<v Speaker 5>What the fellas? This ain't my first time at the rodeo.

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<v Speaker 4>Welcome to the cult rejects. This episode, we got a

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<v Speaker 4>bunch of us here tonight. I got h we got

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<v Speaker 4>the cult reject Midside Lisa with us tonight.

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<v Speaker 2>And then we also got the spiritual gangster herself.

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<v Speaker 4>We got Teresa, we got my favorite garbage can do

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<v Speaker 4>JJ Advance, and we got the one and only headless

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<v Speaker 4>Giant we got him, and we got my boy magic Mike.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 4>So we got a bunch of us here tonight, and

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<v Speaker 4>we're gonna be talking on a topic that I think

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<v Speaker 4>we are all interested in. And I have been hearing

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<v Speaker 4>about how this guest that we have has been doing

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<v Speaker 4>some amazing work on this book. Even a couple of

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<v Speaker 4>people from this podcast has even said that they're really

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<v Speaker 4>impressed with the work that.

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<v Speaker 2>She did on it.

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<v Speaker 4>So I'm very excited to have her back on too

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<v Speaker 4>and it has been a long time since she's been on.

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<v Speaker 4>So please, for all the new listeners that I've had

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<v Speaker 4>since then, please let all of them know Julia, what

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<v Speaker 4>is up with you and where they can find all

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<v Speaker 4>of your work.

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<v Speaker 2>Please.

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<v Speaker 5>Hi, Yeah, thanks so much for having me. I think

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<v Speaker 5>the last time I was on the Occult Reject so

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<v Speaker 5>I still used to color in my eyebrows. So it's

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<v Speaker 5>been a while.

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<v Speaker 6>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 5>No, I have the Cosmic Peach podcast. I'm available wherever

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<v Speaker 5>you listen to podcasts, and I think it's you know, Spotify, iTunes,

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<v Speaker 5>just wherever you could just google it, something will pop up.

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<v Speaker 5>You know. I don't have YouTube anymore.

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<v Speaker 2>I was trying to look for that and I was

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<v Speaker 2>going to ask you.

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<v Speaker 5>Yeah, they gave me. They gave me two strikes, and

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<v Speaker 5>I was like, I'm quitting this relationship before we get

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<v Speaker 5>to the third one. This was my decision, not yours.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, it's.

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<v Speaker 5>Yeah, so but anywhere else. And I do have Patreon

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<v Speaker 5>for like exclusive stuff, AD free stuff and early releases

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<v Speaker 5>on all my episodes over there on Patreon. You can

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<v Speaker 5>just find it looking for Cosmic Peach. But yeah, I'm

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<v Speaker 5>really excited about this one. Thanks, thanks again for.

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<v Speaker 4>Having me of course, of course, of course, and you

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<v Speaker 4>know what, real quick, just for some of the other

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<v Speaker 4>people here, totally forgot. I was going to let some

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<v Speaker 4>of them plug themselves Headless. Let everybody know what they

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<v Speaker 4>can find your show at, too, real quick please, and yeah,

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<v Speaker 4>you're muted it again as usual.

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<v Speaker 7>Foot me on on YouTube obviously, and I'm streaming this

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<v Speaker 7>out now. You can also find me on x That's

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<v Speaker 7>where I do most of my ship posting and sometimes

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<v Speaker 7>I get on Instagram, so if you want to check

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<v Speaker 7>that out, that's where I am look up the Headless

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<v Speaker 7>Giant podcast.

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<v Speaker 2>Listen.

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<v Speaker 4>Thank you very much, and JJ Vance let everybody know

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<v Speaker 4>where they can find your amazing work as well, Lisa.

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<v Speaker 8>All right, Nick, appreciate the invite. JJ Vance, host of

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<v Speaker 8>Operations GCD right there on the screen. Boo uh, looking

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<v Speaker 8>forward to the conversation. I'm big mccount fan. I definitely big,

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<v Speaker 8>a big fan of this book Program to Kill as

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<v Speaker 8>well as far as an eye opening experience in my

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<v Speaker 8>worldview for sure after I.

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<v Speaker 3>Read that book. But no, it's great to see everybody

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<v Speaker 3>looking forward to the conversation.

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<v Speaker 4>Thank you very much, sir and Teresa. Last but not least, Joe,

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<v Speaker 4>the other one with the show here.

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<v Speaker 6>Sure, yeah, so have the Spiritual Gangster's podcast. People can

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<v Speaker 6>check that out everywhere you find podcasts and YouTube, and

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<v Speaker 6>they can find me on x and Instagram at ts

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<v Speaker 6>Gangster's Plot.

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<v Speaker 4>Awesome, thank you very much, and all of their links

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<v Speaker 4>and Julia's linktree is already in the bottom. So if

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<v Speaker 4>people want to go check out his stuff, go for it.

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<v Speaker 4>I guess Julia will get to you real quick. What

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<v Speaker 4>made you even, I guess, get into or start thinking

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<v Speaker 4>about covering this, because I mean that had to be

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<v Speaker 4>a task in itself.

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<v Speaker 5>Oh well, yeah, I didn't take it on lightheartedly because

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<v Speaker 5>I knew it was a huge subject matter. But I

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<v Speaker 5>actually first read Weird Scenes Inside the Canyon, which is

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<v Speaker 5>another David McGowan book, and it has to do more

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<v Speaker 5>with the Laurel Canyon and you know, all of the

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<v Speaker 5>counterculture movement stuff and how it was just a big

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<v Speaker 5>CIA project and pretty much every musician from the Laurel Canyon,

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<v Speaker 5>their dad's we're all in the military, and of course

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<v Speaker 5>everyone's familiar with Jim Morrison and his dad and the

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<v Speaker 5>Gulf of Tonkin and all that. That's like conspiracy candy

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<v Speaker 5>kind of at the point, like everyone really knows about it,

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<v Speaker 5>but weird scenes inside the canyon like explodes, the whole

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<v Speaker 5>thing wide open, and it's crazy and it's just as

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<v Speaker 5>interesting as a read. But after I finished that one,

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<v Speaker 5>I wanted to move on to another book that he wrote,

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<v Speaker 5>which was Programmed to Kill, And I liked weird scenes

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<v Speaker 5>so much that I was like, Oh, this is gonna

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<v Speaker 5>be bomb, this is gonna be fucking fantastic.

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<v Speaker 9>Oh my god.

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<v Speaker 3>I was so.

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<v Speaker 5>Excited to read it because it's all the things white

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<v Speaker 5>women love. You know, it's conspiracy, serial killers, true crime.

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<v Speaker 5>Like that's that's the white girls dream book right there,

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<v Speaker 5>and so you know, yeh right, right right, you go

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<v Speaker 5>to Starbucks and read program to Kill. That's like a

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<v Speaker 5>wet dream or something. But well, yeah, I think.

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<v Speaker 5>I was excited to read it. Anyways, and then chapter

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<v Speaker 5>after chapter I just got more sucked into it, and

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<v Speaker 5>I actually couldn't believe more people weren't talking about the

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<v Speaker 5>stuff that was in this book because it was incredible.

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<v Speaker 2>And he.

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<v Speaker 5>Spends a lot of time at the back of the

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<v Speaker 5>book talking about serial killers. But there's like, I don't know,

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<v Speaker 5>fifteen chapters or something like that in the beginning, where

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<v Speaker 5>it's all about how there's these interconnected pedophile rings that

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<v Speaker 5>are just running the country and he has receipts for

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<v Speaker 5>stuff like it's very well researched, and it blew my mind.

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<v Speaker 5>And then I kind of dove into it looking for

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<v Speaker 5>kind of clues and stuff on my own, and I

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<v Speaker 5>put together basically I did what was the first one.

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<v Speaker 5>series right now called blood Ties and it's all about

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<v Speaker 5>stuff I've researched from the book Program to Kill. So

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<v Speaker 5>I think I've done maybe what ten plus episodes just

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<v Speaker 5>on this one book. So I mean, you guys have

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<v Speaker 5>any questions or anything, but are you guys familiar with

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<v Speaker 5>Dave McGowan at all?

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<v Speaker 8>Oh?

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, oh yeah, yes, yeah, yeah.

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<v Speaker 10>I think the book is super important. I mean, if

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<v Speaker 10>you want to lose all trust in our intelligence networks

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<v Speaker 10>and really bring shine a light on it's like, is

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<v Speaker 10>everything compromised? Well that Scott brings a receipt, So I mean.

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<v Speaker 5>Yeah, and that's important too, especially when you're writing a

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<v Speaker 5>able to see where it's not just like baseless claims

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<v Speaker 5>because everyone loves to jump to oh the pedophile, but

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<v Speaker 5>it's like Dave McGowan actually shows you, like how this

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<v Speaker 5>person is actually a pedophile. I mean, you know, it's

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<v Speaker 5>easy for us to be like, oh, that celebrity is

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<v Speaker 5>probably a pedo, and oh he probably went to a

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<v Speaker 5>Diddy party, and it's just, you know, it's our conjecture

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<v Speaker 5>whether or not that stuff actually happens. But Dave McGowan

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<v Speaker 5>lays it out like on a buffet, and he's like,

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<v Speaker 5>it's crazy because it actually turns out that these pedophile

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<v Speaker 5>networks are so integrated. They're integrated with serial killers, they're

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<v Speaker 5>integrated with the government, they're integrated with babysitting services, they're

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<v Speaker 5>integrated with schools, they're integrated. I mean, it's just it's

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<v Speaker 5>almost impossible for you to wrap your head around the

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<v Speaker 5>first time you read it. That's how crazy it is.

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<v Speaker 7>Well, another thing about Dave McGowan is he's got all

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<v Speaker 7>of his resources just cited right there, so he's uh

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<v Speaker 7>of cited resources. And I've heard people try and debunk

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<v Speaker 7>this book and they've failed miserably at it, and so

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<v Speaker 7>I mean that's a real test of time, right there

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<v Speaker 7>is because these the you know, that's what we're up

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<v Speaker 7>against is people are looking for a way to discredit

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<v Speaker 7>this and they fail miserably. So I think that's that's

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<v Speaker 7>a really important part some of Dave McGowan's Gwen's resources.

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<v Speaker 7>He just leaves hanging out there. He doesn't draw any

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<v Speaker 7>conclusions from it, which I think is important because it

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<v Speaker 7>allows other researchers to go in there and be like, well,

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<v Speaker 7>he left this hang and maybe there's something else that

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<v Speaker 7>has developed since they're already get this book.

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<v Speaker 6>So m h.

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<v Speaker 5>And the crazy thing to me is a lot of

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<v Speaker 5>people talk about, oh, they were probably suicided, you know,

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<v Speaker 5>fill in the blank, Epstein whoever. They were all suicided. Right,

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<v Speaker 5>Dave McGowan died a weird, crazy like fast acting cancer

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<v Speaker 5>CIA type death, and nobody looks at that any further

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<v Speaker 5>than oh, he he had cancer's natural causes, right, He's

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<v Speaker 5>he died out of his own accord. But the way

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<v Speaker 5>that he contracted it, the things he was saying leading

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<v Speaker 5>up to that, it was like he knew he was

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<v Speaker 5>on their list and if somebody, I get it. It

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<v Speaker 5>was cancer, right, and we can't prove that, you know,

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<v Speaker 5>somebody gave him cancer or whatever.

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<v Speaker 7>But well, Lisa, Lisa, as a biologist, I was I

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<v Speaker 7>was wondering if they can make immortal cell lines, which

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<v Speaker 7>is cancer izing these cells, can't they just make cancer?

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<v Speaker 11>So immortalized cell lines is a cancer cell or a

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<v Speaker 11>cancer cell is let me repraise that a cancer cell

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<v Speaker 11>is an immortalized cell line. And so you naturally make

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<v Speaker 11>immortalized cell lines as kind of like an oops, but

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<v Speaker 11>your immune cells kind of get rid of them, you know,

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<v Speaker 11>kind of kill off anything that is showing some sort

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<v Speaker 11>of anomaly. One of the things that the way the

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<v Speaker 11>and they were having problems maintaining cell lines to generate

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<v Speaker 11>vaccines and what have you. And when they came across

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<v Speaker 11>one of the cell lines, it was not showing the

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<v Speaker 11>same type of decay over cell passages. That's when they're like,

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<v Speaker 11>oh my god, we've hick gold. However, at the time,

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<v Speaker 11>they kind of really didn't know about cancer so to speak,

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<v Speaker 11>and that it was infectious, and so they're like, we

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<v Speaker 11>found the holy Grail. We have a cell line that

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<v Speaker 11>will never deteriorate and we can just mass produce it

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<v Speaker 11>because it was allowing them to make so many passages

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<v Speaker 11>with cell lines and testing everything without the decay of

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<v Speaker 11>the chromosome and the telomeres and all that other stuff.

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<v Speaker 11>So they use that initially to make vaccines, not knowing

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<v Speaker 11>that they were injecting Well I don't know if they

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<v Speaker 5>Now so are you saying like they could just like

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<v Speaker 11>No, no, no, super fast. So what was coming about around

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<v Speaker 11>in the sixties, There were a lot of scientists pointing

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<v Speaker 11>evidence that the data was showing that viruses were responsible

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<v Speaker 11>if you kind of go back and look at the literature,

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<v Speaker 11>And now we have proof of that, like with HPV, Right,

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<v Speaker 11>HPV is a virus. Oh yeah, longer you will get

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<v Speaker 11>cervical cancer. Right, that's one for sure. Now you have

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<v Speaker 11>later on in life. We have throw cancer and all

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<v Speaker 5>Or could they just send somebody like coffin Dave's faith

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<v Speaker 5>I don't know, you.

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<v Speaker 3>Which work in environment. It was susceptible to lung cancer.

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<v Speaker 5>Yeah, wait, let me just fact check myself before everybody

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<v Speaker 5>it was lung cancer. It was lung cancer and r

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<v Speaker 5>I P. By the way, I'm not trying to make

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<v Speaker 5>light of it, because it was really terrible. But he

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<v Speaker 5>and he knew like his days were numbered. He pretty

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<v Speaker 5>much said so to a lot of his friends and family,

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<v Speaker 5>like I'm pretty sure they're going to come get me

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<v Speaker 5>after this one. And it's for stuff like this, you know,

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<v Speaker 11>So one of the things if you look back at

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<v Speaker 11>weaponization of viruses, it's around the same timeline when people

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<v Speaker 11>when did he die.

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<v Speaker 5>He did like twenty thirteen or something, twenty fifteen. Maybe

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<v Speaker 5>I just had it pulled up. I don't know. I

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<v Speaker 5>think it was twenty It was within the last like

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<v Speaker 5>ten years now. But he was actually working on something

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<v Speaker 5>on the Boston Marathon bombing, and he was putting together

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<v Speaker 5>a book on that, and then you know, next thing

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<v Speaker 5>you know, Dave's got cancer and he's dead.

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<v Speaker 7>Well, the most.

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<v Speaker 3>Famous great series he did go ahead EDLs.

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<v Speaker 7>The most famous case of injectable cancer was SB forty,

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<v Speaker 7>which they put into the polio vaccine and lots of

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<v Speaker 11>Grow a virus, you know, because we get into the

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<v Speaker 11>whole coaxpostulates and all that other stuff. Viruses cannot be isolated.

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<v Speaker 11>They can only grow inside of a cell. They have

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<v Speaker 11>viruses are not alive. You can't kill them because they're

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<v Speaker 11>not alive. They're just basically inserts, and so the only

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<v Speaker 11>way to grow them or to propagate them is to

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<v Speaker 11>have a cell, now you can go ahead and whatever.

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<v Speaker 11>So SB forty was the actual kidney cell line, and

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<v Speaker 11>it was from a monkey, and so again you have

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<v Speaker 11>the immortalized cell line that was able to be used

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<v Speaker 11>and passage without deterioration, because I think with normal cells

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<v Speaker 11>you passage them I think anywhere between five to ten

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<v Speaker 5>So that's fucked up.

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<v Speaker 6>Do you know the same thing as in the COVID

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<v Speaker 6>jobs too.

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<v Speaker 5>I was gonna say that would be so easy for

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<v Speaker 5>them to sneak into stuff, so I mean, I could

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<v Speaker 5>totally see that. But yeah, so rip Dave McGowan. He

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<v Speaker 5>was a really cool guy. I think his daughter still

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<v Speaker 5>has like an online book store. And if you're gonna

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<v Speaker 5>order Program to Kill after listening to this episode. Don't

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<v Speaker 5>order it through Amazon, go through his daughter, because I

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<v Speaker 5>think that helps support like his you know whatever for

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<v Speaker 5>the Dave McGowan memorial thing or whatever. But he starts

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<v Speaker 5>the book off, and just break in if you have

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<v Speaker 5>any questions. But he starts the book off by talking

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<v Speaker 5>about out this pedophile guy in Belgium. They called him

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<v Speaker 5>the Belgium Beast. His name was Mark Dutreaux. Have you

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<v Speaker 5>guys ever heard of this fucker?

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<v Speaker 6>Yeah?

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<v Speaker 7>Is that he associated with the Mothers of Darkness Castle

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<v Speaker 7>as well over there in Belgium.

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<v Speaker 5>He's involved in all kinds of stuff and he's wrapped

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<v Speaker 5>up in all of these pedophile rings and shit. But

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<v Speaker 5>what the crazy thing is about this guy is like

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<v Speaker 5>I think he like raped or molested a couple of

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<v Speaker 5>young girls, and then he went to prison but was

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<v Speaker 5>able to get out within like I don't know, eight

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<v Speaker 5>months or something real like slight like that, instead of

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<v Speaker 6>And then.

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<v Speaker 5>It was almost as if someone wanted him out, like

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<v Speaker 5>he was getting released for a reason. And so he

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<v Speaker 5>gets released and then he goes right back at it.

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<v Speaker 5>He starts raping and murdering and doing all this shit,

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<v Speaker 5>and even his neighbors would call the cops and be like,

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<v Speaker 5>we hear fucking girls screaming from this house, and somebody

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<v Speaker 5>better come check this out. And the police would supposedly

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<v Speaker 5>drive by and they would see like, oh, nothing's wrong here,

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<v Speaker 5>and just you know, totally dismiss everything. Even this guy's mom,

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<v Speaker 5>Mark Dutrou's mom called the police and said, I think

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<v Speaker 5>there's something wrong. You need to go check out my

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<v Speaker 5>son's house. And whatever. The police go, they say, they

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<v Speaker 5>see nothing wrong. Time goes by and they discover that

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<v Speaker 5>he's got little girls buried all over his property. He's

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<v Speaker 5>got a dungeon in his basement. He's been chaining bitches

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<v Speaker 5>up down there. He's been making snuff films. He's been

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<v Speaker 5>making like child porn.

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<v Speaker 2>All.

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<v Speaker 5>Huh.

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<v Speaker 2>Guy's busy, Yeah, he's busy.

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<v Speaker 5>He's fucking busy, and he's probably on welfare, so he's

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<v Speaker 5>got nothing better to do than to be at home

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<v Speaker 5>raping and killing bitches.

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<v Speaker 7>In Belgium, he was definitely the Belgian Epstein. And what

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<v Speaker 7>ended up, what ended up causing him to go to jail,

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<v Speaker 7>was that the people of Belgium were so sick of

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<v Speaker 7>it that they took to the streets and had a

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<v Speaker 7>national Day of protest, which actually into looking into this

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<v Speaker 7>guy and putting him in jail. But they I mean,

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<v Speaker 7>they didn't execute him, they didn't do nothing like that.

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<v Speaker 7>And he's still rotting in jail to this day. But

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<v Speaker 7>you know, it's just overwhelming amounts of evidence. And the

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<v Speaker 7>thing I've seen about him is that he's associated with

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<v Speaker 7>this Belgium castle they call the Mothers of Darkness Castle.

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<v Speaker 7>So he's basically running an Epstein network out there for

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<v Speaker 7>blackmailing Belgian politicians. And I think that's pretty important because

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<v Speaker 7>you know, this is like the heart of NATO and

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<v Speaker 7>all the rest of this globalism is right there, and

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<v Speaker 7>he's associated with all of it.

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<v Speaker 8>That's what I was going to ask, what's his NATO connection?

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<v Speaker 8>I mean it's Belgium, so it's.

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<v Speaker 5>Yeah, he was definitely connected, and I mean headless put

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<v Speaker 5>it perfectly, because they use people like Mark Dutrow to

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<v Speaker 5>kind of like act vicariously through He procures the girls

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<v Speaker 5>and then they make these you know, blackmail tapes, and

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<v Speaker 5>they make snuff films and they do all this stuff

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<v Speaker 5>and they probably sell them too, and so they use

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<v Speaker 5>a guy like Mark dutrou They see that he's already

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<v Speaker 5>into this shit, he's already been raping and molested in

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<v Speaker 5>his way through. They let him out of jail early,

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<v Speaker 5>and they almost kind of recruit these men to be

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<v Speaker 5>a part of the of the scheme. You know. It's like,

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<v Speaker 5>before I move off of Mark Dutroux, I just want

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<v Speaker 5>to say, it's like the same concept of the serial killer.

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<v Speaker 5>There's they They probably look for people who fittest specific profile,

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<v Speaker 5>who already are somewhat psychopathic, and then they weaponize them

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<v Speaker 5>to do their bidding. And so the idea of the

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<v Speaker 5>program to kill it's not very unlike programmed to pedophile

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<v Speaker 5>because it seems like they're also connected in these circles.

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<v Speaker 5>I don't know if you guys had any questions on

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<v Speaker 5>that though, before I go to the next part of it.

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<v Speaker 3>And there was no Satanism connected to the de trou affair.

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<v Speaker 5>I think Dutrow from what I can remember, they said

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<v Speaker 5>like maybe his parents were into it, and it was

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<v Speaker 5>like a generational thing, kind of like generational satanism.

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<v Speaker 6>You know.

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<v Speaker 5>They take the little boys, they dress them like girls,

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<v Speaker 5>they make them eat shit, drink, piss, it's all part

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<v Speaker 5>of like the trauma, and then they grow up and

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<v Speaker 5>then they become Mark Dutrow because it's like generational Satanists them.

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<v Speaker 8>They sure, so there was evidence of that then with

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<v Speaker 8>the De trou affair as well, because it seems to

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<v Speaker 8>have the hallmarks of it. But I'd never recall there

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<v Speaker 8>being anything in the investigation too much toward the book

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<v Speaker 8>for that matter, regard the satanic elements of it, but

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<v Speaker 8>certainly has all the hallmarks.

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<v Speaker 5>Yeah, I'd have to go back and read it to

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<v Speaker 5>be sure, but I'm pretty if I'm remembering right. I

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<v Speaker 5>think it was like a generational thing and like his

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<v Speaker 5>grandma or something. It's always like the grandma who's the

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<v Speaker 5>Satanist to like dressism, like girls and stuff that it's

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<v Speaker 5>all fucked up. But I mean, as far as I

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<v Speaker 5>can tell, this dude Troe guy, he had like a

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<v Speaker 5>bunch of like people under him and then there was

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<v Speaker 5>like people under them and it was literally like a

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<v Speaker 5>spider web and they were all producing child porn and

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<v Speaker 5>you know blackmail stuff with politicians.

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<v Speaker 7>Well, yeah, that sort of goes back into the Mothers

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<v Speaker 7>of Darkness angle. So the predominant theory is that this

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<v Speaker 7>castle is where you've got a lot of these, I guess,

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<v Speaker 7>highly psychic women that act as like the generals of

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<v Speaker 7>this kind of pedaphocracy, and so basically they're getting orders

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<v Speaker 7>from this Belgium castle, and the castle to this day

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<v Speaker 7>people have tried to infiltrate and everything else. They've got

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<v Speaker 7>massive security around it, and there doesn't appear to be

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<v Speaker 7>any you know, overt reason for it other than the

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<v Speaker 7>fact that all of these you know, politicians and everybody

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<v Speaker 7>else can be seen driving up there and basically getting

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<v Speaker 7>orders from headquarters.

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<v Speaker 3>That's wild.

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<v Speaker 5>Well, yeah it is. And actually the next one that

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<v Speaker 5>I wanted to talk to you guys about it's governmentee too.

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<v Speaker 5>But it's not in Belgium, obviously, it's here. But like,

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<v Speaker 5>have you guys ever to the Franklin cover up? The

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<v Speaker 5>Franklin scandal?

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<v Speaker 2>We covered that, oh you did, yeah, when lux was.

425
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<v Speaker 5>Around okay, ancient history b C.

426
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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, yeah, yeah, b L before looks the show has

427
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<v Speaker 4>been around longer than he was, so at least that's

428
00:24:21.839 --> 00:24:26.720
<v Speaker 4>good now without it's been around without him.

429
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<v Speaker 5>But yeah, so the Franklin scandal, it was a lot

430
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<v Speaker 5>like what was happening in Belgium with Mark Dutreau, but

431
00:24:33.680 --> 00:24:38.039
<v Speaker 5>it was over here and it was a politician guy

432
00:24:38.559 --> 00:24:43.960
<v Speaker 5>is black Republican guy, Larry King, not the top show

433
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<v Speaker 5>fucking house.

434
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<v Speaker 4>Okay, you know what it was greater, you know, it

435
00:24:48.000 --> 00:24:50.079
<v Speaker 4>was great about that when Julia that was all Republicans,

436
00:24:51.839 --> 00:24:54.359
<v Speaker 4>right right, right, people. That's that's why it's not that

437
00:24:54.480 --> 00:24:56.079
<v Speaker 4>popular because it wasn't all Democrats.

438
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<v Speaker 5>Oh, speaking of Republicans, let me just throw this in there,

439
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<v Speaker 5>because it's in Program to Kill. I don't know what

440
00:25:03.279 --> 00:25:06.319
<v Speaker 5>side of the fence anyone's on. I am not on

441
00:25:06.599 --> 00:25:11.400
<v Speaker 5>either side, okay. But Donald Trump, okay, was friends with

442
00:25:11.480 --> 00:25:15.079
<v Speaker 5>this guy he's mentioned in Program to Kill. His name

443
00:25:15.279 --> 00:25:21.960
<v Speaker 5>was Roy Kohane, and he was a known gay pedophile

444
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<v Speaker 5>and he got other gay people removed from their positions

445
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<v Speaker 5>in the office. They called it like the Violet Scarer,

446
00:25:30.559 --> 00:25:33.759
<v Speaker 5>the Violet Scandal or something like that, and then turned

447
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<v Speaker 5>out he was the biggest gayest pedophile out of all

448
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<v Speaker 5>of them, and he was besties with Donald Trump. And

449
00:25:42.319 --> 00:25:47.319
<v Speaker 5>also Donald Trump is besties with Epstein, although he doesn't

450
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<v Speaker 5>seem to remember that shit. And it's like, I'm sorry,

451
00:25:52.519 --> 00:25:55.480
<v Speaker 5>you're not gonna convince me that he's just oblivious to

452
00:25:55.599 --> 00:25:59.079
<v Speaker 5>all this shit. His best friend, this Roy Cone guy,

453
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<v Speaker 5>he wasn't to have like little boy parties at his house.

454
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<v Speaker 5>You didn't invite all of his politician friends over and stuff.

455
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<v Speaker 4>You remember Bill Barr, that was, you know, supposedly Trump's boy,

456
00:26:10.480 --> 00:26:12.039
<v Speaker 4>that was gonna, you know, help take down all these

457
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<v Speaker 4>pedophile rings.

458
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<v Speaker 2>He he was around.

459
00:26:15.359 --> 00:26:18.480
<v Speaker 4>He was around during the Franklin scandal and somebody brought

460
00:26:18.519 --> 00:26:21.039
<v Speaker 4>stuff to him and said, Yo, we think something's going

461
00:26:21.039 --> 00:26:23.799
<v Speaker 4>on here. He looked at Nope, nothing to see here.

462
00:26:24.440 --> 00:26:28.480
<v Speaker 4>Same thing he did with Epstein Ship. I'm telling you,

463
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<v Speaker 4>I swear to God that guy's put in position to

464
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<v Speaker 4>let ship slide. Bill barrright, yeah, Bill Barr, Yeah, Bill Barry, Yeah,

465
00:26:38.240 --> 00:26:39.240
<v Speaker 4>Bill Barr, Yeah, Bill Barr.

466
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<v Speaker 3>Will Bar's neck team, whatever neck he has. He's a

467
00:26:42.200 --> 00:26:43.759
<v Speaker 3>nect eve in the rank concert scandal.

468
00:26:43.839 --> 00:26:46.799
<v Speaker 8>He was out at his having an undercover intelligence name

469
00:26:46.839 --> 00:26:49.799
<v Speaker 8>there and seen it multiple sites, including me in Arkansas,

470
00:26:50.000 --> 00:26:54.160
<v Speaker 8>so by numerous witnesses. So that dude is definitely scandalous.

471
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<v Speaker 8>But yeah, speaking of roy Cone, he's a court of

472
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<v Speaker 8>Maury Terry, the files of Molitary had Ron, member of

473
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<v Speaker 8>the process.

474
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<v Speaker 5>Are you talking about, uh, the Maury Terry? Are you

475
00:27:07.119 --> 00:27:10.440
<v Speaker 5>talking about the ultimate evil or sure yep yep.

476
00:27:10.519 --> 00:27:12.640
<v Speaker 8>And within his files he didn't mention it in the book,

477
00:27:12.680 --> 00:27:15.160
<v Speaker 8>but within his files he has Roy Cone listed as

478
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<v Speaker 8>a member of the process of the children there, the

479
00:27:17.599 --> 00:27:21.279
<v Speaker 8>unter Meer cult, contingent of the process. And also in

480
00:27:21.359 --> 00:27:23.640
<v Speaker 8>that group is a fellow that grew up in Westchester

481
00:27:23.759 --> 00:27:27.000
<v Speaker 8>County and part of the children there listed in the

482
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<v Speaker 8>Terry Files who happens to be a banker out in Omaha,

483
00:27:30.000 --> 00:27:30.920
<v Speaker 8>Nebraska to day.

484
00:27:32.680 --> 00:27:34.400
<v Speaker 5>And he gets off Scott for you, right.

485
00:27:35.880 --> 00:27:37.759
<v Speaker 8>Not only that, he's in a site where you know

486
00:27:37.799 --> 00:27:40.480
<v Speaker 8>where the Franklin scandal was the headquarters of it is

487
00:27:40.559 --> 00:27:42.079
<v Speaker 8>with bankers and Omaha, Nebraska.

488
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<v Speaker 3>So you have a member of the children identified in

489
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<v Speaker 3>the Terry.

490
00:27:44.480 --> 00:27:47.440
<v Speaker 8>Files who was part of the Westchester cult, contingent of

491
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<v Speaker 8>the process. The minute at Utremeyer Park, you know, it's

492
00:27:51.319 --> 00:27:54.359
<v Speaker 8>largely responsible attributed to the Son of Sam murders and

493
00:27:54.839 --> 00:27:56.599
<v Speaker 8>additional murders on top of what is known as the

494
00:27:56.640 --> 00:27:59.400
<v Speaker 8>Son of Sam murders. But yeah, one of those guys

495
00:27:59.519 --> 00:28:02.480
<v Speaker 8>from the is a banker out now all today, a

496
00:28:02.599 --> 00:28:04.440
<v Speaker 8>VP has been out there for almost thirty years.

497
00:28:04.920 --> 00:28:07.319
<v Speaker 3>He runs a bank out there. So I find that

498
00:28:07.519 --> 00:28:07.920
<v Speaker 3>very odd.

499
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<v Speaker 5>Well fucking nuts. Oh sorry, go ahead.

500
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<v Speaker 7>One of the most interesting parts of Roy Khone's history

501
00:28:16.240 --> 00:28:20.799
<v Speaker 7>is his acting as a legal counsel to a lot

502
00:28:20.960 --> 00:28:25.119
<v Speaker 7>of the mobsters in New York. So the mobsters would

503
00:28:25.200 --> 00:28:28.240
<v Speaker 7>hire him, He'd come into the courtroom, and everybody in

504
00:28:28.279 --> 00:28:33.279
<v Speaker 7>the courtroom would now stop badgering the mobsters and started

505
00:28:33.359 --> 00:28:35.960
<v Speaker 7>treating them with some more respect because Roy con had

506
00:28:36.039 --> 00:28:40.559
<v Speaker 7>dirt on all of the court officers, and so he

507
00:28:40.720 --> 00:28:44.599
<v Speaker 7>was very influential in the late eighties when the FBI

508
00:28:44.799 --> 00:28:46.319
<v Speaker 7>was going after all the mobsters.

509
00:28:48.640 --> 00:28:50.799
<v Speaker 5>He's a fucking piece of shit in what he is,

510
00:28:51.680 --> 00:28:55.839
<v Speaker 5>and I just I you know, sometimes the company you

511
00:28:56.039 --> 00:28:59.799
<v Speaker 5>keep says a lot about you. And so I'm not

512
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<v Speaker 5>friends with any pedophiles that I know of. I'm not

513
00:29:03.960 --> 00:29:07.799
<v Speaker 5>friends with any murderous douchebags that I know of. So

514
00:29:07.960 --> 00:29:13.400
<v Speaker 5>if your friend group includes more than one murderous pedophiling douchebag,

515
00:29:14.519 --> 00:29:17.799
<v Speaker 5>I mean you start wondering maybe this guy is a murdering,

516
00:29:17.960 --> 00:29:22.799
<v Speaker 5>pedophiling douchebag. That's all I'm saying. Again, I don't you know.

517
00:29:23.079 --> 00:29:25.039
<v Speaker 5>I know a lot of people are trumping and a

518
00:29:25.119 --> 00:29:27.920
<v Speaker 5>lot of whatever, but it is what it is. As

519
00:29:27.960 --> 00:29:31.200
<v Speaker 5>far as that goes. And it's the same with this

520
00:29:31.559 --> 00:29:34.640
<v Speaker 5>Franklin scandal stuff, because it was basically a black Republican

521
00:29:34.680 --> 00:29:39.839
<v Speaker 5>guy who was invested in a bunch of like loans

522
00:29:39.920 --> 00:29:46.960
<v Speaker 5>and savings companies, and he was also doing like charitable

523
00:29:47.079 --> 00:29:53.200
<v Speaker 5>stuff with Boystown I think it was, And so I

524
00:29:53.400 --> 00:29:57.440
<v Speaker 5>guess they were funneling boys out of this Boystown, which

525
00:29:57.599 --> 00:30:00.480
<v Speaker 5>was like a halfway house or an orphanage of kind,

526
00:30:01.000 --> 00:30:04.440
<v Speaker 5>and they were taking him and doing all this blackmail

527
00:30:04.519 --> 00:30:11.200
<v Speaker 5>stuff with them. And one of the most known survivors

528
00:30:11.240 --> 00:30:12.880
<v Speaker 5>of this, I guess you could call him is a

529
00:30:12.960 --> 00:30:15.720
<v Speaker 5>guy named Paul Banassi, which I'm sure a lot of

530
00:30:15.799 --> 00:30:19.240
<v Speaker 5>you are familiar with. And this guy's incredible because if

531
00:30:19.279 --> 00:30:22.319
<v Speaker 5>he's telling the truth, if everything, it almost makes me

532
00:30:22.400 --> 00:30:24.920
<v Speaker 5>wonder how he's able to say the amount of stuff

533
00:30:24.960 --> 00:30:27.640
<v Speaker 5>that he says and get away with it. But if

534
00:30:27.720 --> 00:30:30.839
<v Speaker 5>half of the stuff he says is true, holy fucking

535
00:30:31.039 --> 00:30:34.880
<v Speaker 5>shit balls. I mean, have you guys heard this guy talk.

536
00:30:35.079 --> 00:30:37.119
<v Speaker 5>He's got like seventeen personalities.

537
00:30:37.799 --> 00:30:40.440
<v Speaker 4>Oh I've seen yeah, Yeah, I watched his Yeah, we

538
00:30:41.200 --> 00:30:42.839
<v Speaker 4>kind of covered his interviews on the show.

539
00:30:42.920 --> 00:30:46.160
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, some wild stuff story list.

540
00:30:46.240 --> 00:30:47.400
<v Speaker 5>You said you saw it?

541
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<v Speaker 7>Oh, yeah, I've seen the book on the Franklin cover up,

542
00:30:52.599 --> 00:30:56.640
<v Speaker 7>and the stuff that Banassi was saying went right back

543
00:30:56.720 --> 00:30:58.559
<v Speaker 7>to the very first kid they ever put on a

544
00:30:59.160 --> 00:30:59.920
<v Speaker 7>on a milk cart.

545
00:31:00.759 --> 00:31:02.079
<v Speaker 3>So he's like.

546
00:31:05.480 --> 00:31:08.880
<v Speaker 8>Johnny Gosh, Hey, john Anton Pats is the first milk

547
00:31:08.920 --> 00:31:11.200
<v Speaker 8>card boy, I think though, But ye, Johnny Gosh.

548
00:31:11.119 --> 00:31:13.200
<v Speaker 5>Was the first, second one.

549
00:31:13.279 --> 00:31:13.720
<v Speaker 6>I think.

550
00:31:15.079 --> 00:31:16.160
<v Speaker 3>You was the first paper boy.

551
00:31:16.359 --> 00:31:18.839
<v Speaker 8>It was that paper boy craze of going missing their eighties.

552
00:31:19.359 --> 00:31:21.440
<v Speaker 8>He was the first one of that that whole scare.

553
00:31:21.799 --> 00:31:22.759
<v Speaker 8>I remember that scare.

554
00:31:23.720 --> 00:31:26.200
<v Speaker 10>Now? Is he the one who was taking to the

555
00:31:26.279 --> 00:31:29.759
<v Speaker 10>Elephant Rock in Colorado? Was that Johnny Gosh?

556
00:31:30.400 --> 00:31:31.000
<v Speaker 3>Supposedly?

557
00:31:31.160 --> 00:31:33.200
<v Speaker 8>Right, so that some of that story from Bonanci seems

558
00:31:33.240 --> 00:31:35.599
<v Speaker 8>to check out, I know, and following some of that

559
00:31:35.680 --> 00:31:38.799
<v Speaker 8>story in years with the author, they found that house

560
00:31:38.839 --> 00:31:40.480
<v Speaker 8>that Bananci tells about in Colorado.

561
00:31:41.240 --> 00:31:44.480
<v Speaker 10>Yeah, and shout out the thrash on this one. That's

562
00:31:44.599 --> 00:31:49.440
<v Speaker 10>right by Monarch Mountain, so you know, you know with

563
00:31:49.599 --> 00:31:52.960
<v Speaker 10>the whole clockwork orange thing going on, you know, the

564
00:31:53.039 --> 00:31:57.400
<v Speaker 10>Monarch Mountain or not clockwork orange, but the shining the

565
00:31:57.519 --> 00:32:01.240
<v Speaker 10>monarch poster. So it's just a little same there. The

566
00:32:01.400 --> 00:32:03.440
<v Speaker 10>house is right by that mountain out there and there's

567
00:32:03.480 --> 00:32:06.160
<v Speaker 10>a lot of weird stuff that goes on in that area.

568
00:32:06.319 --> 00:32:09.920
<v Speaker 5>So, I mean, Paul Banasi says all kinds of stuff.

569
00:32:09.960 --> 00:32:14.400
<v Speaker 5>He says Bohemian gross stuff. He says stuff about Hunter S. Thompson.

570
00:32:15.039 --> 00:32:17.240
<v Speaker 2>He brought up a Quino, didn't didn't he bring up

571
00:32:17.240 --> 00:32:17.519
<v Speaker 2>a queen?

572
00:32:17.559 --> 00:32:18.680
<v Speaker 3>I believe the stuff.

573
00:32:19.759 --> 00:32:25.079
<v Speaker 4>I think I'm pretty sure he brought up Michael Aquino specifically, Yeah.

574
00:32:25.000 --> 00:32:25.319
<v Speaker 7>He did.

575
00:32:25.440 --> 00:32:30.160
<v Speaker 5>He he addressed him as the colonel and he was

576
00:32:30.240 --> 00:32:35.880
<v Speaker 5>supposedly in charge of all this bullshittery. So the way

577
00:32:36.039 --> 00:32:38.359
<v Speaker 5>Paul Pinnasi, and again it does go back to the

578
00:32:38.519 --> 00:32:42.599
<v Speaker 5>Johnny Gosh kid because he says that they they Paul

579
00:32:42.680 --> 00:32:45.880
<v Speaker 5>Banassi was there when he was taken, they did all

580
00:32:45.960 --> 00:32:47.599
<v Speaker 5>kinds of messed up stuff.

581
00:32:47.359 --> 00:32:48.519
<v Speaker 6>To him, and.

582
00:32:50.799 --> 00:32:52.799
<v Speaker 5>Maybe they killed him. I don't remember if he said

583
00:32:52.799 --> 00:33:00.279
<v Speaker 5>so or not. But Paul Banasi they always talk about,

584
00:33:00.319 --> 00:33:02.880
<v Speaker 5>well he didn't, there was no trial, there was no

585
00:33:03.119 --> 00:33:08.519
<v Speaker 5>case or whatever. He actually took Larry King to civil

586
00:33:08.680 --> 00:33:12.119
<v Speaker 5>court and did end up winning that case against him,

587
00:33:12.920 --> 00:33:17.039
<v Speaker 5>and I think Larry King had to pay him like

588
00:33:17.039 --> 00:33:22.880
<v Speaker 5>a million dollars or something like that. But when people say, oh, well,

589
00:33:22.920 --> 00:33:26.359
<v Speaker 5>there's nothing to support this Paul Bannasi's crazy and he

590
00:33:26.440 --> 00:33:29.400
<v Speaker 5>made all this up. He won his case in civil

591
00:33:29.440 --> 00:33:34.119
<v Speaker 5>court against Larry King, so I mean he was able

592
00:33:34.200 --> 00:33:37.559
<v Speaker 5>to convince a jury obviously or a judge that this

593
00:33:37.839 --> 00:33:42.440
<v Speaker 5>all happened. So it just gets you to think, and maybe,

594
00:33:42.839 --> 00:33:45.119
<v Speaker 5>you know, all the stuff he's saying is true. I

595
00:33:45.160 --> 00:33:47.440
<v Speaker 5>don't know, maybe it's a little true and a little lies.

596
00:33:47.920 --> 00:33:53.200
<v Speaker 5>I mean, I think it's at least partially true. Have

597
00:33:53.400 --> 00:33:56.480
<v Speaker 5>you guys heard about any of that stuff with the trial.

598
00:33:56.480 --> 00:33:58.400
<v Speaker 4>Well, I've I've heard about some of the stories that

599
00:33:58.480 --> 00:34:00.960
<v Speaker 4>he just even you know he told, especially with that

600
00:34:01.079 --> 00:34:04.400
<v Speaker 4>girl too. But uh, in my opinion, even if you

601
00:34:04.480 --> 00:34:08.280
<v Speaker 4>think about the day's in the time that it was at,

602
00:34:08.400 --> 00:34:11.719
<v Speaker 4>like the date I forgot how long ago, my opinion,

603
00:34:11.800 --> 00:34:14.599
<v Speaker 4>Like when he gave descriptions of like where these places are,

604
00:34:15.119 --> 00:34:17.559
<v Speaker 4>he would be telling you, like what's on the corners

605
00:34:17.599 --> 00:34:20.440
<v Speaker 4>of the streets. Oh, it's over that's on the other

606
00:34:20.519 --> 00:34:22.320
<v Speaker 4>side of the street, Like he just give painting a

607
00:34:22.400 --> 00:34:24.440
<v Speaker 4>visual picture like so like you could tell he was

608
00:34:24.519 --> 00:34:27.800
<v Speaker 4>probably really there, you know. So it's like I don't

609
00:34:27.840 --> 00:34:29.480
<v Speaker 4>think they had map quest then and he I don't

610
00:34:29.519 --> 00:34:31.440
<v Speaker 4>think he was like Google Earth, you know, Google Earth.

611
00:34:32.440 --> 00:34:35.280
<v Speaker 4>So odds are then like the unless it was scripted

612
00:34:35.360 --> 00:34:38.239
<v Speaker 4>for him to read and to know prior my opinion,

613
00:34:38.320 --> 00:34:39.719
<v Speaker 4>some of the stuff he says I do think is

614
00:34:39.800 --> 00:34:42.800
<v Speaker 4>true because it's just the it's almost as if you

615
00:34:42.920 --> 00:34:44.880
<v Speaker 4>like he's describing it as he really was there.

616
00:34:45.920 --> 00:34:46.440
<v Speaker 5>I agree.

617
00:34:47.079 --> 00:34:49.840
<v Speaker 7>That's That's one of the things about Paul Banasi is

618
00:34:50.000 --> 00:34:56.360
<v Speaker 7>he would actually document things like graffiti, yeah, inside of

619
00:34:56.400 --> 00:34:59.280
<v Speaker 7>a McDonald's, and it's like, well, how could he possibly

620
00:34:59.400 --> 00:35:02.039
<v Speaker 7>know that? People went back and checked out his work

621
00:35:02.119 --> 00:35:04.039
<v Speaker 7>and found all of the things that he was talking

622
00:35:04.079 --> 00:35:06.239
<v Speaker 7>about in that book about the Frankly cover up.

623
00:35:08.960 --> 00:35:11.960
<v Speaker 5>And that kind of leads me back to Michael Achino

624
00:35:12.119 --> 00:35:15.000
<v Speaker 5>because he talks about Michael Aquino, like I said, he

625
00:35:15.079 --> 00:35:19.320
<v Speaker 5>calls him the Colonel. And then if you really get

626
00:35:19.360 --> 00:35:22.480
<v Speaker 5>to dig it into the colonel quote unquote, there's this

627
00:35:23.360 --> 00:35:28.119
<v Speaker 5>stuff about the Presidio Air Force Base daycare. I want

628
00:35:28.159 --> 00:35:30.480
<v Speaker 5>to say, was it the daycare or a first grade,

629
00:35:30.519 --> 00:35:31.480
<v Speaker 5>second grade something like that?

630
00:35:32.000 --> 00:35:35.920
<v Speaker 9>Yeah, the city Army Okay, it was a daycare.

631
00:35:36.159 --> 00:35:43.039
<v Speaker 5>Yeah. So in Program to Kill it kind of outlines

632
00:35:43.599 --> 00:35:52.000
<v Speaker 5>how the Presidio Air Force Base basically if Michael Aquino

633
00:35:52.119 --> 00:35:54.840
<v Speaker 5>is the colonel or whatever, and he's running all this. Basically,

634
00:35:55.000 --> 00:35:59.880
<v Speaker 5>they have an understanding that these kids are easily drug

635
00:36:00.719 --> 00:36:08.000
<v Speaker 5>and taken to Michael Aquino's house for programming, and a

636
00:36:08.119 --> 00:36:10.920
<v Speaker 5>couple of the kids started talking about it, and they

637
00:36:10.920 --> 00:36:14.440
<v Speaker 5>would say like, we'd drink a pink, sleepy drink and

638
00:36:14.559 --> 00:36:18.079
<v Speaker 5>then mister Gary touches our no no spot, and then

639
00:36:18.159 --> 00:36:22.360
<v Speaker 5>we're taken to the colonel's house quote unquote, and they

640
00:36:22.360 --> 00:36:24.679
<v Speaker 5>would say that he looked like Mickey Mouse. If you

641
00:36:24.800 --> 00:36:27.119
<v Speaker 5>look at a picture of Michael Achino how he used

642
00:36:27.159 --> 00:36:29.880
<v Speaker 5>to style his hair and shit, he did look like

643
00:36:29.960 --> 00:36:33.840
<v Speaker 5>fucking Mickey Mouse. It was fucking ridiculous. Go and look

644
00:36:33.880 --> 00:36:35.719
<v Speaker 5>at a picture of it. But anyways, they would say

645
00:36:35.760 --> 00:36:38.599
<v Speaker 5>that he looked like Mickey Mouse. They would say that

646
00:36:38.719 --> 00:36:42.239
<v Speaker 5>they were watching videos of animals getting torn apart, that

647
00:36:42.360 --> 00:36:45.519
<v Speaker 5>they were getting asked to tear animals apart. They were

648
00:36:45.880 --> 00:36:49.880
<v Speaker 5>eating shit and drinking piss and getting shit and pissed on,

649
00:36:50.599 --> 00:36:54.599
<v Speaker 5>and then they were coming home. Of course, they cleaned

650
00:36:54.639 --> 00:36:57.360
<v Speaker 5>him up and stuff and sent him home, and a

651
00:36:57.400 --> 00:37:01.280
<v Speaker 5>couple of the kids started remembering this shit and telling

652
00:37:01.360 --> 00:37:05.440
<v Speaker 5>their parents, and the parents filed a suit against Michael

653
00:37:05.559 --> 00:37:09.360
<v Speaker 5>Keino and Michael Keino was like, fuck you, I'm going

654
00:37:09.440 --> 00:37:13.199
<v Speaker 5>to do you for defamation, and guess what, he walked away.

655
00:37:13.360 --> 00:37:18.840
<v Speaker 5>Scott Free didn't have to fucking you know, own up

656
00:37:18.880 --> 00:37:22.199
<v Speaker 5>to any of this shit. And Paul Banassi, I mean,

657
00:37:23.079 --> 00:37:26.119
<v Speaker 5>it's crazy, Actually, do you guys know about this stuff?

658
00:37:26.840 --> 00:37:27.320
<v Speaker 6>Right? Well?

659
00:37:27.880 --> 00:37:31.519
<v Speaker 7>At the presidio he claimed that they were coming after

660
00:37:31.599 --> 00:37:34.119
<v Speaker 7>him because he was a Satanist. They're like, oh, this

661
00:37:34.280 --> 00:37:37.199
<v Speaker 7>is all just satanic panic. But that it turns out

662
00:37:37.440 --> 00:37:41.719
<v Speaker 7>in the documents related to what's that cult called in DC,

663
00:37:42.719 --> 00:37:47.159
<v Speaker 7>you know this one JJ, But there's this called document Yeah,

664
00:37:47.199 --> 00:37:49.679
<v Speaker 7>the finders called there you go, and the finders called

665
00:37:49.760 --> 00:37:54.320
<v Speaker 7>documents they actually talk about the presidio and talk about

666
00:37:54.440 --> 00:37:57.400
<v Speaker 7>that there were these tunnels under the daycare that these

667
00:37:57.519 --> 00:38:02.199
<v Speaker 7>children described, and that didn't come to light until, you know,

668
00:38:02.400 --> 00:38:05.519
<v Speaker 7>twenty years after the fact. But there was somebody at

669
00:38:05.599 --> 00:38:07.440
<v Speaker 7>least on that case. I believe it was the guy

670
00:38:07.519 --> 00:38:10.320
<v Speaker 7>who was a customs official who was looking into it.

671
00:38:11.360 --> 00:38:15.960
<v Speaker 7>That the FBI and the CIA were feuding over, you know,

672
00:38:16.199 --> 00:38:18.760
<v Speaker 7>who gets to release it, and the CIA was covering

673
00:38:18.880 --> 00:38:22.360
<v Speaker 7>up all the stuff about the the finders. But the

674
00:38:22.519 --> 00:38:26.480
<v Speaker 7>exact same type of methodology talked about in The Finders

675
00:38:26.559 --> 00:38:30.880
<v Speaker 7>with these sacrificed animals was one of the things that

676
00:38:31.440 --> 00:38:35.000
<v Speaker 7>was also used by the the Akino cult out in

677
00:38:35.039 --> 00:38:38.280
<v Speaker 7>the Presidio. So there's a huge crossover between the two

678
00:38:38.480 --> 00:38:41.920
<v Speaker 7>that apparently the CIA doesn't want coming to light because

679
00:38:42.400 --> 00:38:44.719
<v Speaker 7>the Finders was basically a CIA front group.

680
00:38:46.079 --> 00:38:48.199
<v Speaker 8>Well, they're rumored to make the best born the best

681
00:38:48.239 --> 00:38:50.239
<v Speaker 8>child for in the CIA is they sell to everybody.

682
00:38:50.280 --> 00:38:54.079
<v Speaker 8>It's a big profitable scheme for them. The other foreign

683
00:38:54.119 --> 00:38:55.119
<v Speaker 8>intelligence agencies.

684
00:38:59.199 --> 00:39:03.960
<v Speaker 3>M I actually have the Oh so America is good

685
00:39:04.000 --> 00:39:11.039
<v Speaker 3>for something right here in America.

686
00:39:12.400 --> 00:39:16.880
<v Speaker 11>One of the things, dude, there was oh go ahead, no, no, no,

687
00:39:17.000 --> 00:39:21.239
<v Speaker 11>it's okay, go ahead, go ahead, Oh no, I'll.

688
00:39:20.599 --> 00:39:22.679
<v Speaker 5>Just say it really quick. There was something in Program

689
00:39:22.840 --> 00:39:26.960
<v Speaker 5>to Kill about There was a child porn website and

690
00:39:27.039 --> 00:39:29.760
<v Speaker 5>they had like a whole HR department and a fucking

691
00:39:29.920 --> 00:39:33.159
<v Speaker 5>receptionist for the front desk and all this ship. It's like,

692
00:39:33.519 --> 00:39:37.840
<v Speaker 5>who's calling with an HR complaint? Who's calling with a

693
00:39:37.920 --> 00:39:42.079
<v Speaker 5>fucking I issue? Like, are you serious? Anyways? Go ahead, Lisa.

694
00:39:43.159 --> 00:39:43.199
<v Speaker 7>No.

695
00:39:43.559 --> 00:39:46.239
<v Speaker 11>One of the things that that to me stuck out

696
00:39:46.280 --> 00:39:50.440
<v Speaker 11>with Bonacci's whatever his telling was, is that if you

697
00:39:50.880 --> 00:39:54.360
<v Speaker 11>kind of now like look back and so much has

698
00:39:54.400 --> 00:39:57.719
<v Speaker 11>come to light now with these quote unquote serial killers,

699
00:39:57.960 --> 00:40:03.280
<v Speaker 11>these quote unquote cults, the ones that have this tie

700
00:40:03.719 --> 00:40:07.920
<v Speaker 11>to intelligence. Cult serial killers or anything like that, all

701
00:40:08.039 --> 00:40:11.480
<v Speaker 11>have the same hallmark, the cannibalism, the satanic, the child

702
00:40:12.000 --> 00:40:15.880
<v Speaker 11>the snuff, the everything. And so to me, the way

703
00:40:15.960 --> 00:40:17.960
<v Speaker 11>I grew up and I grew up in doctrinated that

704
00:40:18.280 --> 00:40:21.039
<v Speaker 11>serial killers are real. And you know, this was a

705
00:40:21.119 --> 00:40:24.559
<v Speaker 11>thing that they all have their own signature, right, they

706
00:40:24.599 --> 00:40:27.679
<v Speaker 11>all have their own methodology, they have their own fingerprint,

707
00:40:27.760 --> 00:40:30.360
<v Speaker 11>so to speak. And yet no one's looking at the

708
00:40:30.440 --> 00:40:34.480
<v Speaker 11>fact that the government's fingerprint is all over this. This

709
00:40:34.679 --> 00:40:37.559
<v Speaker 11>is how they do business, right, and no one has

710
00:40:37.679 --> 00:40:41.079
<v Speaker 11>kind of really tied all that, you know in with

711
00:40:41.239 --> 00:40:44.079
<v Speaker 11>it all, I mean, except for this book. But it

712
00:40:44.199 --> 00:40:48.719
<v Speaker 11>seems like it's over and over. Everything is redundant in

713
00:40:49.079 --> 00:40:49.920
<v Speaker 11>the same mo.

714
00:40:51.480 --> 00:40:52.519
<v Speaker 5>Well, I agree.

715
00:40:53.599 --> 00:40:57.000
<v Speaker 7>What are the reasons why Michael Aquino was so protected

716
00:40:57.079 --> 00:40:59.960
<v Speaker 7>by the US Army and so integral to their work

717
00:41:00.199 --> 00:41:03.199
<v Speaker 7>was his book mind War and Mind War was part

718
00:41:03.320 --> 00:41:07.639
<v Speaker 7>of the army curriculum about how to engage in psyops,

719
00:41:07.760 --> 00:41:11.079
<v Speaker 7>and so he was so influential because of the fact

720
00:41:11.679 --> 00:41:15.559
<v Speaker 7>that he had the experimental knowledge to sort of transfer

721
00:41:15.639 --> 00:41:19.400
<v Speaker 7>all of this child abuse into working propaganda techniques, and

722
00:41:19.880 --> 00:41:21.719
<v Speaker 7>he claimed it was a way to put an end

723
00:41:21.800 --> 00:41:24.440
<v Speaker 7>to war, and he was doing it peacefully, but really

724
00:41:24.960 --> 00:41:29.679
<v Speaker 7>what he wanted to do is to use basically wind

725
00:41:29.800 --> 00:41:33.599
<v Speaker 7>ups and children that had been abused as a method

726
00:41:33.840 --> 00:41:36.840
<v Speaker 7>of assassination and all the rest of the stuff that

727
00:41:37.039 --> 00:41:40.679
<v Speaker 7>the NATO forces and everybody else can now use in

728
00:41:40.840 --> 00:41:44.119
<v Speaker 7>times of great civil strife to try and push these

729
00:41:44.599 --> 00:41:49.280
<v Speaker 7>societies into either civil war or regime change or any

730
00:41:49.280 --> 00:41:51.039
<v Speaker 7>of the rest of the stuff that would be useful

731
00:41:51.079 --> 00:41:51.639
<v Speaker 7>around the world.

732
00:41:59.760 --> 00:42:02.360
<v Speaker 5>Going and go to the next one, unless you guys

733
00:42:02.400 --> 00:42:09.440
<v Speaker 5>are okay. So it kind of dovetails with the Presidio

734
00:42:09.760 --> 00:42:17.440
<v Speaker 5>Michael Lochino stuff because in another part of California there

735
00:42:17.760 --> 00:42:23.639
<v Speaker 5>is this McMartin preschool trial thing, and it's just like

736
00:42:23.760 --> 00:42:30.079
<v Speaker 5>the Presidio daycare. These kids are coming home, preschool aged

737
00:42:30.199 --> 00:42:34.000
<v Speaker 5>children coming home and telling their parents that they're getting touched,

738
00:42:34.199 --> 00:42:40.440
<v Speaker 5>that they're stuff going on. And one of the first parents, gosh,

739
00:42:40.760 --> 00:42:43.639
<v Speaker 5>I'm forgetting her name, Judy Johnson, I think is her name.

740
00:42:44.679 --> 00:42:47.679
<v Speaker 5>She was the first parent of one of these kids

741
00:42:47.719 --> 00:42:50.119
<v Speaker 5>to step forward and say that I think there's something

742
00:42:50.199 --> 00:42:52.639
<v Speaker 5>going on here. My kid is saying this stuff, and

743
00:42:52.800 --> 00:42:56.239
<v Speaker 5>she took him to like a primary care physician or

744
00:42:56.239 --> 00:42:59.320
<v Speaker 5>a pedes doctor whatever, and they did a bunch of

745
00:42:59.639 --> 00:43:03.000
<v Speaker 5>tests on him. And there's one test. I'm not making

746
00:43:03.039 --> 00:43:07.840
<v Speaker 5>this up. It's called the anal wink test. And they

747
00:43:07.960 --> 00:43:11.199
<v Speaker 5>do it on kids or whoever as part of like

748
00:43:11.360 --> 00:43:15.679
<v Speaker 5>almost like a rape kit type thing. And these kids

749
00:43:16.719 --> 00:43:21.559
<v Speaker 5>are showing clear and evident signs of being sexually abused,

750
00:43:22.360 --> 00:43:26.119
<v Speaker 5>and they're talking about getting taken under the school in tunnels,

751
00:43:26.920 --> 00:43:30.239
<v Speaker 5>and you know, it's it's getting crazy, and so this

752
00:43:30.400 --> 00:43:34.880
<v Speaker 5>whole trial gets started up. I can't remember the number

753
00:43:34.920 --> 00:43:37.239
<v Speaker 5>of kids, but I think it was like over fifty,

754
00:43:37.599 --> 00:43:41.679
<v Speaker 5>maybe one hundred kids. Parents are part of this trial,

755
00:43:42.599 --> 00:43:49.599
<v Speaker 5>and they hire like this court appointed psychiatrist to talk

756
00:43:49.679 --> 00:43:53.599
<v Speaker 5>to all these kids and verify their claims. And they

757
00:43:53.679 --> 00:43:55.559
<v Speaker 5>talk to all the kids. They come back and they say,

758
00:43:56.360 --> 00:43:59.480
<v Speaker 5>you know what, we think these one hundred and twenty

759
00:43:59.719 --> 00:44:06.599
<v Speaker 5>six point two children are all suffering from false memory syndrome.

760
00:44:09.320 --> 00:44:16.559
<v Speaker 5>And they've been all convinced that this is reality, but

761
00:44:16.679 --> 00:44:20.800
<v Speaker 5>it's just a dream and they're all having false memory syndrome.

762
00:44:22.719 --> 00:44:24.400
<v Speaker 5>I mean, I don't know what you guys have to

763
00:44:24.480 --> 00:44:30.559
<v Speaker 5>say about that. But imagine your kid preschool age, coming home,

764
00:44:31.079 --> 00:44:34.360
<v Speaker 5>you take them to the doctor, there's like, yep, there's

765
00:44:34.599 --> 00:44:38.519
<v Speaker 5>been stuff going on here, and then you go to court,

766
00:44:38.639 --> 00:44:41.639
<v Speaker 5>you get all the way to the trial and they

767
00:44:41.719 --> 00:44:45.559
<v Speaker 5>say we're sorry you in one hundred and twenty six

768
00:44:45.679 --> 00:44:50.880
<v Speaker 5>of your kid's friends are all suffering from false memory syndrome.

769
00:44:51.719 --> 00:44:55.119
<v Speaker 5>Like you tell me what preschool age kid knows to

770
00:44:55.280 --> 00:44:58.880
<v Speaker 5>put those type of details into a story, and what

771
00:44:59.119 --> 00:45:03.239
<v Speaker 5>type of pre school age kid knows about sexual stuff?

772
00:45:03.960 --> 00:45:07.480
<v Speaker 6>You know that it definitely insane. Yeah, it's crazy. I

773
00:45:07.519 --> 00:45:09.480
<v Speaker 6>would I would be going to jail, Let's put it

774
00:45:09.559 --> 00:45:11.280
<v Speaker 6>that way, because I would do something.

775
00:45:12.760 --> 00:45:15.960
<v Speaker 5>I should be down there tearing bitch's faces off. I

776
00:45:16.000 --> 00:45:19.159
<v Speaker 5>would be that, uh if my kid said something like

777
00:45:19.239 --> 00:45:21.480
<v Speaker 5>that to me. But I mean hadless you guys heard

778
00:45:21.519 --> 00:45:22.079
<v Speaker 5>of this stuff?

779
00:45:23.320 --> 00:45:24.760
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, oh yeah, I think yeah.

780
00:45:24.639 --> 00:45:25.679
<v Speaker 5>I mean didn't some of the.

781
00:45:30.000 --> 00:45:31.880
<v Speaker 10>I was just gonna say, I mean some of the

782
00:45:32.000 --> 00:45:35.719
<v Speaker 10>parents that made enough noise ended up getting taken out,

783
00:45:35.760 --> 00:45:38.800
<v Speaker 10>didn't they? Or miss Mysterious things happened to some of them.

784
00:45:39.719 --> 00:45:42.800
<v Speaker 5>So that Judy Johnson, the first mom that came forward

785
00:45:42.880 --> 00:45:47.920
<v Speaker 5>with her kid a week before she was set to testify.

786
00:45:48.719 --> 00:45:51.679
<v Speaker 5>She showed up in her home dead of what they

787
00:45:51.840 --> 00:45:56.119
<v Speaker 5>call a heart attack. And then they were like, well,

788
00:45:56.199 --> 00:45:58.960
<v Speaker 5>you know, Judy was a fucking alcoholic, she was a

789
00:45:59.039 --> 00:46:02.519
<v Speaker 5>fucking prastitute, choose Flashner's shit all around town. None of

790
00:46:02.599 --> 00:46:05.320
<v Speaker 5>that shit was true, and she wasn't an alcoholic. And

791
00:46:05.400 --> 00:46:08.639
<v Speaker 5>actually she only had started drinking a little bit here

792
00:46:08.679 --> 00:46:11.719
<v Speaker 5>and there after the trial started. I mean, you could

793
00:46:11.760 --> 00:46:15.079
<v Speaker 5>imagine you'd want to stiff one, like, with all that

794
00:46:15.199 --> 00:46:17.599
<v Speaker 5>shit going on, you cannot tell me that makes you

795
00:46:17.639 --> 00:46:21.320
<v Speaker 5>an alcoholic. That's it's just ridiculous. They say that she

796
00:46:21.559 --> 00:46:23.800
<v Speaker 5>was such an alcoholic that she had a heart attack

797
00:46:23.880 --> 00:46:26.880
<v Speaker 5>in her house and just died a week before she's

798
00:46:26.920 --> 00:46:28.000
<v Speaker 5>supposed to testify.

799
00:46:28.199 --> 00:46:33.079
<v Speaker 7>I mean, come on, guys, Well, the False Memory Syndrome

800
00:46:33.199 --> 00:46:38.599
<v Speaker 7>Foundation was started by these abusive parents whose daughter had

801
00:46:39.920 --> 00:46:43.679
<v Speaker 7>remembered these memories of being abused as a child and

802
00:46:43.800 --> 00:46:47.559
<v Speaker 7>blamed her parents for it. And so not only did

803
00:46:47.599 --> 00:46:50.800
<v Speaker 7>you have the False Memory Syndrome Foundation, which brings up

804
00:46:50.840 --> 00:46:55.320
<v Speaker 7>another angle is the foundations and all these I guess

805
00:46:55.440 --> 00:47:00.199
<v Speaker 7>nonprofit organizations have their fingerprints all over this stuff. As

806
00:47:00.239 --> 00:47:03.320
<v Speaker 7>soon as something comes up, you get descended upon by

807
00:47:03.360 --> 00:47:07.119
<v Speaker 7>all these different organizations that are now there to discredit

808
00:47:07.199 --> 00:47:10.599
<v Speaker 7>the children. And what's interesting too is not only did

809
00:47:10.679 --> 00:47:13.400
<v Speaker 7>you have the False Memory Syndrome Foundation, you also had

810
00:47:13.960 --> 00:47:17.199
<v Speaker 7>a psychologist from out in Utah, one of these uh

811
00:47:18.039 --> 00:47:22.840
<v Speaker 7>I guess fixers for the the you know, Utah chapters

812
00:47:22.920 --> 00:47:27.320
<v Speaker 7>of these different organizations, that was literally implanting memories as well.

813
00:47:27.480 --> 00:47:30.920
<v Speaker 7>So you have both sides of the equation being forced

814
00:47:31.000 --> 00:47:34.239
<v Speaker 7>on these kids, so that there are some kids with

815
00:47:34.360 --> 00:47:37.119
<v Speaker 7>false memories. And then you also have a False Memory

816
00:47:37.159 --> 00:47:41.920
<v Speaker 7>Syndrome Foundation. Ralph Underwagger for the False Memory Syndrome Foundation,

817
00:47:42.079 --> 00:47:44.039
<v Speaker 7>he was one of the clergy that they would use

818
00:47:44.079 --> 00:47:47.679
<v Speaker 7>as sort of their cover was actually hot with child pornography,

819
00:47:48.239 --> 00:47:52.800
<v Speaker 7>so the entire organization was was completely corrupted. Still, look

820
00:47:52.920 --> 00:47:56.480
<v Speaker 7>up the False Memory Syndrome Foundation website where they're you know,

821
00:47:56.679 --> 00:48:00.639
<v Speaker 7>basically saying, we need to stop these psychologists from implanting

822
00:48:00.760 --> 00:48:03.159
<v Speaker 7>memories into our children. Now, if you think about the

823
00:48:03.719 --> 00:48:07.800
<v Speaker 7>improbability of having the type of conspiracy that would create

824
00:48:07.920 --> 00:48:11.679
<v Speaker 7>these false memories for children, you have to also understand that,

825
00:48:12.079 --> 00:48:14.920
<v Speaker 7>you know, there would be an industry there that would

826
00:48:14.920 --> 00:48:18.119
<v Speaker 7>be exploited. So you've got both sides of the coin

827
00:48:18.280 --> 00:48:22.079
<v Speaker 7>sort of working together, just obscure and throwing much garbage

828
00:48:22.119 --> 00:48:26.960
<v Speaker 7>on top of this whole thing, sort of the industry moving.

829
00:48:28.519 --> 00:48:34.360
<v Speaker 5>Mhm, JJ, were you going to say something earlier? I

830
00:48:34.440 --> 00:48:35.920
<v Speaker 5>don't know if I cut you off or.

831
00:48:35.920 --> 00:48:41.800
<v Speaker 2>Anything, JJ, he might be stuck.

832
00:48:41.880 --> 00:48:44.719
<v Speaker 5>Actually, oh okay, I was going to say. I thought

833
00:48:44.840 --> 00:48:47.320
<v Speaker 5>he was going to say something, but maybe he's frozen.

834
00:48:49.119 --> 00:48:51.440
<v Speaker 6>The head was the psychiatrist you were talking about. Is

835
00:48:51.480 --> 00:48:52.559
<v Speaker 6>that Barbara Snow.

836
00:48:54.320 --> 00:48:55.760
<v Speaker 7>I forgot her name, but that's.

837
00:48:57.840 --> 00:49:01.840
<v Speaker 6>Yeah, And then she worked wissle with that Teal Swan

838
00:49:02.480 --> 00:49:07.119
<v Speaker 6>who's like, uh, you know, life guru, now tell you

839
00:49:07.239 --> 00:49:10.000
<v Speaker 6>to just kill yourself so you reincarnate and come back.

840
00:49:10.199 --> 00:49:14.440
<v Speaker 6>Your life is ship ah fuck, people have done it.

841
00:49:15.559 --> 00:49:18.880
<v Speaker 7>Teal Swat is all over these ads, all over Facebook

842
00:49:18.920 --> 00:49:19.599
<v Speaker 7>and Instagram.

843
00:49:20.000 --> 00:49:25.719
<v Speaker 5>I'm sure she is. Yeah, yeah, but you know what

844
00:49:25.880 --> 00:49:28.599
<v Speaker 5>they did to these cities. Oh no, I'm not gonna

845
00:49:28.719 --> 00:49:31.280
<v Speaker 5>cut you off again this time, you go, Lisa.

846
00:49:32.920 --> 00:49:32.960
<v Speaker 1>No.

847
00:49:33.440 --> 00:49:36.280
<v Speaker 11>I was gonna mention something about the false mentionory, some

848
00:49:36.679 --> 00:49:39.000
<v Speaker 11>false memory syndrome. But I don't know if JJ is

849
00:49:39.039 --> 00:49:41.960
<v Speaker 11>going to say something, and so I don't want to

850
00:49:42.239 --> 00:49:46.239
<v Speaker 11>take his thunder, So go ahead. I think we're gonna

851
00:49:46.239 --> 00:49:47.760
<v Speaker 11>probably say the same thing. So I'll let you go

852
00:49:49.199 --> 00:49:50.159
<v Speaker 11>no no, go go go.

853
00:49:52.159 --> 00:49:54.639
<v Speaker 3>No by all means okay.

854
00:49:54.800 --> 00:49:58.119
<v Speaker 11>So, and we've covered this on the Occult Rejects. So

855
00:49:58.360 --> 00:50:01.679
<v Speaker 11>and please JJ, please in because you were on the

856
00:50:01.760 --> 00:50:04.320
<v Speaker 11>show at the same time. So we kind of talked

857
00:50:04.320 --> 00:50:09.320
<v Speaker 11>about the psychiatrist Elizabeth Loftis, who is well known for

858
00:50:09.960 --> 00:50:14.800
<v Speaker 11>the false memory syndrome. And so Elizabeth Loftis, might I

859
00:50:14.920 --> 00:50:18.039
<v Speaker 11>mention got her PhD from Stanford, which we all know

860
00:50:18.199 --> 00:50:22.400
<v Speaker 11>that Stanford's very well connected to Esslon all kinds of

861
00:50:23.239 --> 00:50:27.639
<v Speaker 11>think tanks, cults, what have you, right, But she's also

862
00:50:27.800 --> 00:50:30.760
<v Speaker 11>been you know, somewhat of a consultant on the O. J.

863
00:50:30.880 --> 00:50:35.599
<v Speaker 11>Simpson trial, on I think Weinstein's trial, and then believe

864
00:50:36.639 --> 00:50:41.000
<v Speaker 11>it was her that was asked for specifically by name

865
00:50:41.079 --> 00:50:44.920
<v Speaker 11>by Gailaine Maxwell. The other person that was asked for

866
00:50:45.199 --> 00:50:50.719
<v Speaker 11>by Gislaine Maxwell was Park Deats and Elizabeth Loftis belongs

867
00:50:50.760 --> 00:50:54.519
<v Speaker 11>to the firm of Park Deats. Park Deats is the

868
00:50:54.719 --> 00:50:58.440
<v Speaker 11>forensic psychiatrist that was called in for the following trials

869
00:50:59.280 --> 00:51:04.199
<v Speaker 11>Robert John bart Do, John W. Hinkley, Betty Broderick, Jared

870
00:51:04.280 --> 00:51:11.480
<v Speaker 11>Lee Lofner, and other serial killers like Joel Rifkin, Jeffrey Dahmer,

871
00:51:11.639 --> 00:51:16.280
<v Speaker 11>Ted Kaczinski, Richard Kazinski. I don't know the list goes on,

872
00:51:16.599 --> 00:51:20.079
<v Speaker 11>but anyway, so it's all connected, yes, to that whole

873
00:51:20.159 --> 00:51:21.159
<v Speaker 11>false memory syndrome.

874
00:51:22.679 --> 00:51:29.239
<v Speaker 12>Oh my god, have you guys ever heard of this

875
00:51:29.639 --> 00:51:34.360
<v Speaker 12>debunker guy from the eighties, the amazing Randy.

876
00:51:35.199 --> 00:51:37.280
<v Speaker 3>Oh yeah, what was he?

877
00:51:37.639 --> 00:51:38.960
<v Speaker 5>What was he debunking?

878
00:51:41.960 --> 00:51:47.000
<v Speaker 7>Debunk psychics, psychic phenomenon or whatever. And so he was

879
00:51:47.039 --> 00:51:50.880
<v Speaker 7>a member of the False Memory Syndrome Foundation. I think

880
00:51:50.880 --> 00:51:55.119
<v Speaker 7>he was a board member. And this guy, uh, he said, well,

881
00:51:55.199 --> 00:51:57.679
<v Speaker 7>he called some teenagers up on the phone and tried

882
00:51:57.719 --> 00:52:01.119
<v Speaker 7>to solicit sex from them. He said he was doing

883
00:52:01.159 --> 00:52:05.000
<v Speaker 7>it as a sting operation for the False Syndrome Foundation.

884
00:52:05.159 --> 00:52:08.480
<v Speaker 7>So it's like you're trying to sting thirteen year old

885
00:52:08.559 --> 00:52:11.159
<v Speaker 7>boys into what there's.

886
00:52:11.000 --> 00:52:13.760
<v Speaker 3>The only research, it's only research, right.

887
00:52:17.360 --> 00:52:21.000
<v Speaker 8>Memory Foundation is deeply rooted in CIA activities and and

888
00:52:21.199 --> 00:52:25.320
<v Speaker 8>Satanic activities because the head of the Satanic temple, the

889
00:52:25.440 --> 00:52:27.440
<v Speaker 8>old boy who goes by the name Lucy and Greeves,

890
00:52:27.559 --> 00:52:32.119
<v Speaker 8>mister Doug Mashenko. He's a Harvard graduate specializing in false

891
00:52:32.159 --> 00:52:36.119
<v Speaker 8>memory syndrome psychology, and he's also he also runs the

892
00:52:36.199 --> 00:52:40.920
<v Speaker 8>process dot org website and very likely the uh satanic

893
00:52:41.039 --> 00:52:43.119
<v Speaker 8>element of the process today. But hey, that's a different

894
00:52:43.159 --> 00:52:46.440
<v Speaker 8>story together. So it seems like very processed CIA satanic

895
00:52:46.880 --> 00:52:50.920
<v Speaker 8>stuff pushing these current false memory syndrome aspects today. So

896
00:52:51.480 --> 00:52:53.280
<v Speaker 8>it's a very shady, very shady element.

897
00:52:54.079 --> 00:52:57.480
<v Speaker 11>And yeah memory, Oh I'm so sorry.

898
00:52:57.960 --> 00:52:59.719
<v Speaker 5>Oh no, I was just gonna say, yeah, they got

899
00:52:59.840 --> 00:53:02.039
<v Speaker 5>a but they got to get these kids in the

900
00:53:02.360 --> 00:53:05.760
<v Speaker 5>fucking cult as soon as they can. Sorry, Lisa, go ahead, no.

901
00:53:05.920 --> 00:53:08.440
<v Speaker 11>No, no, that it rings a bell because y'all did

902
00:53:08.599 --> 00:53:13.079
<v Speaker 11>a show last night with the Idaho four. So Elizabeth

903
00:53:13.119 --> 00:53:16.599
<v Speaker 11>Lofts back to the false memory syndrome. She was married

904
00:53:16.679 --> 00:53:20.920
<v Speaker 11>to the chief guy for the psychology department University of Washington,

905
00:53:21.480 --> 00:53:24.000
<v Speaker 11>and so she has a lot of connections to a

906
00:53:24.079 --> 00:53:28.440
<v Speaker 11>lot of the forensic psychology whatever that whenever these huge cases,

907
00:53:28.920 --> 00:53:33.239
<v Speaker 11>you know, start getting huge coverage, these people are somewhere

908
00:53:33.320 --> 00:53:35.639
<v Speaker 11>in the background of it all, at least the departments

909
00:53:35.880 --> 00:53:39.599
<v Speaker 11>or people that are consulting or anything like that. Now

910
00:53:39.679 --> 00:53:43.079
<v Speaker 11>we have the guy who's supposedly Coburger has been implicated.

911
00:53:43.360 --> 00:53:46.840
<v Speaker 11>He was a student there at the psychology department. Correct

912
00:53:46.880 --> 00:53:51.880
<v Speaker 11>forensic psychology department, absolutely yep, or whatever.

913
00:53:52.159 --> 00:53:55.320
<v Speaker 8>Yeah, that is strange, and there's a lot of weird

914
00:53:55.360 --> 00:53:57.239
<v Speaker 8>funding speaking of kind of CIA kind of funding to

915
00:53:57.280 --> 00:53:59.880
<v Speaker 8>those schools. I mean I often asserted the Air Force,

916
00:54:00.000 --> 00:54:02.760
<v Speaker 8>the CIA, and NASA are the same organization because I

917
00:54:02.880 --> 00:54:07.159
<v Speaker 8>just used to manage the budget for Air Force cops,

918
00:54:07.360 --> 00:54:09.400
<v Speaker 8>you know, headquarters in DC, and I kind of came

919
00:54:09.440 --> 00:54:12.960
<v Speaker 8>to these conclusions through budgetary meetings. But because they're also

920
00:54:13.079 --> 00:54:15.559
<v Speaker 8>created by the same legislation, the National Security Act of

921
00:54:15.679 --> 00:54:19.840
<v Speaker 8>nineteen forty seven, and weirdly enough, University of Washington University

922
00:54:19.960 --> 00:54:23.360
<v Speaker 8>or Washington State University there in the University of Idaho.

923
00:54:23.199 --> 00:54:24.599
<v Speaker 3>Get weird NASA funding.

924
00:54:24.960 --> 00:54:28.119
<v Speaker 8>I have some strange NASA research programs there, which to

925
00:54:28.199 --> 00:54:31.280
<v Speaker 8>me is again just the CIA. So I often wonder

926
00:54:31.360 --> 00:54:33.679
<v Speaker 8>I had no idea often set of connections there. That's interesting.

927
00:54:37.760 --> 00:54:39.440
<v Speaker 2>I still think Coburg is a SiO.

928
00:54:42.000 --> 00:54:44.079
<v Speaker 3>Well, look, it's certainly I see I saw some more

929
00:54:44.159 --> 00:54:45.280
<v Speaker 3>comments about that from our show.

930
00:54:45.360 --> 00:54:48.719
<v Speaker 2>I don't I still think something.

931
00:54:50.440 --> 00:54:52.639
<v Speaker 8>Yeah, well, there was never any bodies taking scene taken

932
00:54:52.639 --> 00:54:53.920
<v Speaker 8>out of the house, so I mean there is an

933
00:54:54.039 --> 00:54:54.840
<v Speaker 8>argument to be made.

934
00:54:55.920 --> 00:54:58.599
<v Speaker 2>I think it's uh. I think Coburg is running like

935
00:54:58.719 --> 00:55:01.159
<v Speaker 2>a show and then.

936
00:55:02.440 --> 00:55:07.119
<v Speaker 3>Tracking it all that's right. Look, it's twenty twenty five.

937
00:55:07.199 --> 00:55:09.280
<v Speaker 3>All bets are off, so we're passing me in World

938
00:55:09.320 --> 00:55:12.159
<v Speaker 3>twenty twenty four. That certainly could be going on. I wouldn't.

939
00:55:12.159 --> 00:55:12.960
<v Speaker 3>I wouldn't rull it out.

940
00:55:13.480 --> 00:55:14.079
<v Speaker 2>I don't know why.

941
00:55:14.480 --> 00:55:17.880
<v Speaker 8>It's not a bad idea, And that's exactly what he

942
00:55:17.960 --> 00:55:22.239
<v Speaker 8>was focused on, right, analyzing the psychology of criminals and crime.

943
00:55:25.400 --> 00:55:27.960
<v Speaker 4>All right, you want to go on to uh, who

944
00:55:28.000 --> 00:55:30.159
<v Speaker 4>are we talking about again? Before we got onto coburger,

945
00:55:30.599 --> 00:55:32.119
<v Speaker 4>that probably said to me bringing.

946
00:55:31.840 --> 00:55:35.360
<v Speaker 3>In the McMartin false memory syndrome stuff.

947
00:55:35.639 --> 00:55:40.559
<v Speaker 8>Yeah, in Hollywood, Hollywood's whitewashing the entire subject real quick

948
00:55:40.599 --> 00:55:45.559
<v Speaker 8>with James Woods mister right twixter Hero didn't start in

949
00:55:45.599 --> 00:55:46.440
<v Speaker 8>the whitewashing of that.

950
00:55:48.159 --> 00:55:49.239
<v Speaker 3>I think it was Oliver Stone.

951
00:55:49.239 --> 00:55:52.119
<v Speaker 8>I think Oliver Stone directed it and James would start

952
00:55:52.199 --> 00:55:55.639
<v Speaker 8>in it, and they completely actually entire subjects.

953
00:55:56.559 --> 00:55:58.920
<v Speaker 5>I haven't seen it, but I will tell you if

954
00:55:58.960 --> 00:56:03.360
<v Speaker 5>you look at the wikiped for the mc martin preschool trials,

955
00:56:03.880 --> 00:56:08.119
<v Speaker 5>it's nothing. Even they they're like, oh, well, you know

956
00:56:08.360 --> 00:56:14.239
<v Speaker 5>that basically the parents didn't win against mc martin. You know,

957
00:56:14.480 --> 00:56:17.400
<v Speaker 5>so no justice. None of these kids got any justice.

958
00:56:18.400 --> 00:56:21.119
<v Speaker 5>And you know if you look at the Wikipedia, it's

959
00:56:21.199 --> 00:56:24.159
<v Speaker 5>like they didn't win the trial. So nothing to see here, folks,

960
00:56:24.280 --> 00:56:27.679
<v Speaker 5>Look away, look away, you know, let's pretend that this

961
00:56:27.880 --> 00:56:31.559
<v Speaker 5>didn't even happen. They used like some kind of ground

962
00:56:31.960 --> 00:56:37.000
<v Speaker 5>penetrating radar later over the school grounds and they found

963
00:56:37.159 --> 00:56:41.199
<v Speaker 5>collapse tunnels under the school and I think one person,

964
00:56:41.960 --> 00:56:46.480
<v Speaker 5>independent researcher or independent investigator something dug down there and

965
00:56:46.519 --> 00:56:50.119
<v Speaker 5>found like a Mickey Mouse lunch bag down in the

966
00:56:50.239 --> 00:56:54.159
<v Speaker 5>collapse tunnels and shit. So it's like the kids, where

967
00:56:54.519 --> 00:56:57.280
<v Speaker 5>how do you justify the false memory syndrome? Now there's

968
00:56:57.400 --> 00:57:01.039
<v Speaker 5>actually fucking tunnels and actually fucking Mickey Mouse fucking lunch

969
00:57:01.119 --> 00:57:01.960
<v Speaker 5>boxes down there.

970
00:57:03.119 --> 00:57:05.320
<v Speaker 6>So it sounds like the Brooklyn Synagogue.

971
00:57:06.360 --> 00:57:09.440
<v Speaker 2>Oh it wasn't when we.

972
00:57:09.480 --> 00:57:11.920
<v Speaker 4>Brought when we talked about Barbara Snow, wasn't there also

973
00:57:12.079 --> 00:57:14.840
<v Speaker 4>in some way she attached to Mormons. Wasn't that one

974
00:57:14.880 --> 00:57:17.039
<v Speaker 4>of the reasons why she was brought up, like to

975
00:57:17.119 --> 00:57:19.119
<v Speaker 4>the like the elders of Zion or some shit like that,

976
00:57:19.599 --> 00:57:21.119
<v Speaker 4>which was like some Mormon stuff.

977
00:57:21.960 --> 00:57:24.440
<v Speaker 2>There we go with the elder again some some stuff.

978
00:57:24.599 --> 00:57:27.440
<v Speaker 4>There was something like that with these zion I can't remember,

979
00:57:27.519 --> 00:57:29.960
<v Speaker 4>but I do know that when she's been brought up

980
00:57:30.000 --> 00:57:32.480
<v Speaker 4>twice on the Occult Rejects. One time it was because

981
00:57:32.559 --> 00:57:33.960
<v Speaker 4>I was covering Mormons.

982
00:57:35.719 --> 00:57:40.039
<v Speaker 5>So because of the the old Warren Jeff's thing like

983
00:57:40.320 --> 00:57:42.719
<v Speaker 5>the Zion. Isn't that what he called it?

984
00:57:42.920 --> 00:57:44.840
<v Speaker 4>I can't remember. It was like a rabbit hole. It

985
00:57:44.960 --> 00:57:46.519
<v Speaker 4>was kind of like a thing that came off of

986
00:57:46.639 --> 00:57:48.159
<v Speaker 4>like a topic, and it was just like, oh yeah,

987
00:57:48.159 --> 00:57:48.559
<v Speaker 4>and somehow it.

988
00:57:48.559 --> 00:57:51.320
<v Speaker 3>Can beave it victims it.

989
00:57:51.519 --> 00:57:52.320
<v Speaker 5>Yeah, it might have been that.

990
00:57:52.639 --> 00:57:52.840
<v Speaker 10>Yeah.

991
00:57:54.480 --> 00:57:55.199
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, when that.

992
00:57:55.239 --> 00:57:57.239
<v Speaker 8>Boy had to go take that press conference and say

993
00:57:57.320 --> 00:57:59.880
<v Speaker 8>he wasn't a cannibal and his wife didn't did okay,

994
00:58:00.000 --> 00:58:00.880
<v Speaker 8>and they didn't need kids?

995
00:58:01.599 --> 00:58:02.280
<v Speaker 3>David leave it.

996
00:58:03.400 --> 00:58:04.920
<v Speaker 2>Well, didn't like he tell on himself.

997
00:58:05.000 --> 00:58:07.599
<v Speaker 4>He said the police are investigating him, and they're like, well,

998
00:58:07.719 --> 00:58:10.280
<v Speaker 4>I actually we weren't until you just said all that.

999
00:58:11.800 --> 00:58:13.800
<v Speaker 8>Yeah, no one asked the questions like I don't need kids,

1000
00:58:13.840 --> 00:58:15.119
<v Speaker 8>and they're like, whoa, what's the weird thing is?

1001
00:58:19.159 --> 00:58:20.599
<v Speaker 5>That's oddly specific?

1002
00:58:21.079 --> 00:58:23.599
<v Speaker 2>Yeah it was weird. Yeah, Yeah, it's like he rad

1003
00:58:23.639 --> 00:58:24.320
<v Speaker 2>it on himself.

1004
00:58:25.679 --> 00:58:26.440
<v Speaker 3>He did for sure.

1005
00:58:26.480 --> 00:58:29.000
<v Speaker 5>Oh my god, why would you say that? Of all

1006
00:58:29.039 --> 00:58:32.280
<v Speaker 5>the things, just like I don't need asparagus? Okay, neither

1007
00:58:32.320 --> 00:58:35.320
<v Speaker 5>to Rye, but no, I don't need kids. That's what

1008
00:58:35.480 --> 00:58:39.000
<v Speaker 5>you went when that's gonna suck, you totally sold me

1009
00:58:39.119 --> 00:58:42.360
<v Speaker 5>on it. You don't need kids, got it.

1010
00:58:43.719 --> 00:58:45.840
<v Speaker 4>Funny thing is that could be some slime bowl away

1011
00:58:45.920 --> 00:58:49.159
<v Speaker 4>that he got, like like maybe some of the police

1012
00:58:49.199 --> 00:58:51.440
<v Speaker 4>force tipped them off and said, oh, they're going to

1013
00:58:51.519 --> 00:58:52.960
<v Speaker 4>charge you. So then he comes out and says that

1014
00:58:53.079 --> 00:58:55.880
<v Speaker 4>ship and then like, oh, well there's a probable cause,

1015
00:58:58.159 --> 00:59:00.360
<v Speaker 4>you know, saying like they couldntroll them into doing that,

1016
00:59:00.440 --> 00:59:02.159
<v Speaker 4>and that gave them a reason to actually look into

1017
00:59:02.159 --> 00:59:06.199
<v Speaker 4>them sure, because I mean they do you like the criminals.

1018
00:59:06.239 --> 00:59:08.119
<v Speaker 4>I mean they you know, I could see them doing

1019
00:59:08.159 --> 00:59:10.400
<v Speaker 4>that to their own Well.

1020
00:59:10.440 --> 00:59:13.719
<v Speaker 7>I think what's interesting is that Utah is not only

1021
00:59:13.800 --> 00:59:15.719
<v Speaker 7>the home of the Mormons, but it's also the home

1022
00:59:15.880 --> 00:59:20.079
<v Speaker 7>of a really vibrant New Age scene. And what a

1023
00:59:20.119 --> 00:59:22.440
<v Speaker 7>lot of people about that New Age scene is that

1024
00:59:23.239 --> 00:59:26.599
<v Speaker 7>that's basically the release valve for the Mormons. So as

1025
00:59:26.639 --> 00:59:28.599
<v Speaker 7>soon as you run away from the Mormon temple and

1026
00:59:28.719 --> 00:59:31.360
<v Speaker 7>you lose all your family and stuff, you've got these

1027
00:59:31.440 --> 00:59:34.880
<v Speaker 7>Mormon controlled new agers right there with open arms, ready

1028
00:59:34.920 --> 00:59:39.000
<v Speaker 7>to take you back into a new call. So they

1029
00:59:39.119 --> 00:59:41.559
<v Speaker 7>open both sides of this equation, And I think that

1030
00:59:41.760 --> 00:59:44.920
<v Speaker 7>really is symbolic of how most of these things are managed.

1031
00:59:45.400 --> 00:59:47.880
<v Speaker 7>Is that you've got the false memory syndrome foundation, and

1032
00:59:47.960 --> 00:59:50.920
<v Speaker 7>then you've got the new agers that are implanting false memories.

1033
00:59:51.480 --> 00:59:54.320
<v Speaker 7>So at the intersection between the two, you can just

1034
00:59:54.360 --> 00:59:56.840
<v Speaker 7>see that it's nothing but confusion, which is a really

1035
00:59:56.920 --> 00:59:59.159
<v Speaker 7>processed thing to do. You've got the you know, the

1036
00:59:59.280 --> 01:00:01.880
<v Speaker 7>Jesus side of the processed church and the devil signed

1037
01:00:01.920 --> 01:00:02.760
<v Speaker 7>the process church.

1038
01:00:02.840 --> 01:00:03.360
<v Speaker 3>And that's true.

1039
01:00:04.360 --> 01:00:06.559
<v Speaker 4>Oh. I think the way Barbara Snow was connected is

1040
01:00:06.559 --> 01:00:08.679
<v Speaker 4>that they were saying that she was putting false memories

1041
01:00:08.719 --> 01:00:10.440
<v Speaker 4>of child bless station into Mormon.

1042
01:00:10.239 --> 01:00:13.519
<v Speaker 5>Kids heads, right into Mormon kids.

1043
01:00:13.719 --> 01:00:15.639
<v Speaker 4>Yeah, they were saying, all they really weren't touched. She

1044
01:00:15.800 --> 01:00:17.400
<v Speaker 4>put these things into their heads.

1045
01:00:18.280 --> 01:00:22.360
<v Speaker 5>Oh my god, I've if I've watched one documentary on

1046
01:00:22.599 --> 01:00:25.559
<v Speaker 5>Warren Jeff's I've watched a fucking thousand of them, and

1047
01:00:25.719 --> 01:00:31.360
<v Speaker 5>that piece of shit, asshole motherfucker was fucking doing all

1048
01:00:31.480 --> 01:00:35.840
<v Speaker 5>kinds of stuff. There's no way they have false memory anything.

1049
01:00:36.239 --> 01:00:40.039
<v Speaker 5>Did you see his face? He looks like the end

1050
01:00:40.199 --> 01:00:46.239
<v Speaker 5>of a cigarette. He looks like a cigarette. He's disgusting. Okay,

1051
01:00:46.599 --> 01:00:52.280
<v Speaker 5>there's no seeing like if you looked up just it

1052
01:00:52.719 --> 01:00:56.039
<v Speaker 5>everyone in your mind. Just imagine you're opening a dictionary

1053
01:00:56.239 --> 01:01:01.079
<v Speaker 5>and you're flipping to the word Pedophile's the fucking picture

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01:01:01.239 --> 01:01:09.800
<v Speaker 5>of Lauren Jeff's Like, that is what I imagine a greasy, skinny, weird, disgusting, lyuntic.

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<v Speaker 5>But the crazy thing is, though, most of these pedophiles

1056
01:01:15.679 --> 01:01:19.599
<v Speaker 5>are like people you wouldn't even ever imagine, and that's

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01:01:19.639 --> 01:01:23.199
<v Speaker 5>how they get away with it for so long. Politicians, celebrities,

1058
01:01:23.480 --> 01:01:26.679
<v Speaker 5>people you love, people you look up to, people you idolize.

1059
01:01:27.519 --> 01:01:30.119
<v Speaker 5>They all end up being parts of this shit. Even

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01:01:30.199 --> 01:01:34.119
<v Speaker 5>your kids preschool teachers are part of it. I mean,

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01:01:34.199 --> 01:01:39.920
<v Speaker 5>think of that scary because you know, you always look

1062
01:01:40.000 --> 01:01:44.000
<v Speaker 5>for like the monster with like the drool like dripping

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01:01:44.119 --> 01:01:48.199
<v Speaker 5>from their things, but it's usually your kid's preschool teacher.

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01:01:49.480 --> 01:01:52.360
<v Speaker 5>And so one of the last things I had down

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01:01:52.440 --> 01:01:54.159
<v Speaker 5>in my notes that I wanted to talk to you

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01:01:54.239 --> 01:01:59.639
<v Speaker 5>guys about was something called the Country Walk Babysitting Service.

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<v Speaker 5>I know, if you guys are familiar with.

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01:02:01.760 --> 01:02:06.480
<v Speaker 2>This at all, No, this is news to me. Nope,

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01:02:06.840 --> 01:02:07.480
<v Speaker 2>the first time on.

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<v Speaker 5>Right, Okay, well, somebody knows. Hey, we're doing all right

1071
01:02:16.559 --> 01:02:19.280
<v Speaker 5>as a society as long as one other person besides

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01:02:19.400 --> 01:02:20.960
<v Speaker 5>me knows about like Save.

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01:02:20.840 --> 01:02:27.159
<v Speaker 2>The Day Disney, which is business right it's.

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01:02:27.639 --> 01:02:28.320
<v Speaker 10>Registered with.

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<v Speaker 7>So there was.

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01:02:30.960 --> 01:02:33.920
<v Speaker 5>This guy's name is Frank Fuster. Anybody can look this

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01:02:34.000 --> 01:02:37.000
<v Speaker 5>ship up and there's receipts in program to kill on

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01:02:37.119 --> 01:02:40.800
<v Speaker 5>all this stuff. He was running a babysitting service with

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01:02:40.960 --> 01:02:44.400
<v Speaker 5>his wife out of his home in Florida. He was

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01:02:44.480 --> 01:02:49.199
<v Speaker 5>a twice convicted either raper or molester of some kind,

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01:02:49.920 --> 01:02:52.440
<v Speaker 5>and he was let out early on some kind of

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01:02:52.519 --> 01:02:57.840
<v Speaker 5>parole and decided to open this country walk babysitting service

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01:02:57.920 --> 01:02:59.960
<v Speaker 5>out of his house with his wife. Like I said,

1084
01:03:01.039 --> 01:03:04.519
<v Speaker 5>but it's like, is there no papers? You got a

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01:03:04.599 --> 01:03:07.480
<v Speaker 5>file to get some type of a like I work

1086
01:03:07.559 --> 01:03:10.360
<v Speaker 5>from home thing, and like I have a company out

1087
01:03:10.400 --> 01:03:12.559
<v Speaker 5>of my house. Like who's letting this guy who's been

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01:03:12.639 --> 01:03:18.519
<v Speaker 5>convicted twice and on parole of similar crimes around children?

1089
01:03:19.079 --> 01:03:22.639
<v Speaker 5>Like who's doing this? But I guess everything's fine and

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01:03:22.760 --> 01:03:25.760
<v Speaker 5>he gets his license to open up this babysitting service,

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01:03:26.559 --> 01:03:31.199
<v Speaker 5>and guess what the kids are coming home talking about

1092
01:03:31.280 --> 01:03:34.800
<v Speaker 5>how they have to cut cats' heads off, and how

1093
01:03:34.880 --> 01:03:39.599
<v Speaker 5>they're watching snuff films and how they're taking a pink

1094
01:03:39.719 --> 01:03:44.039
<v Speaker 5>drink like fucking Starbucks shit and fucking falling asleep and

1095
01:03:44.519 --> 01:03:46.320
<v Speaker 5>all this stuff is happening to them.

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01:03:47.159 --> 01:03:47.239
<v Speaker 6>And.

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01:03:50.920 --> 01:03:54.400
<v Speaker 5>The parents, you know, try to sue or whatever. They

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01:03:54.480 --> 01:03:57.239
<v Speaker 5>don't get very far. And it comes out later that

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01:03:57.360 --> 01:04:01.000
<v Speaker 5>this Frank Fuster, the Country Walk baby sitting Service is

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01:04:01.039 --> 01:04:07.360
<v Speaker 5>a subsidiary of Walt Disney Company, And so this guy

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01:04:07.639 --> 01:04:10.800
<v Speaker 5>who's been twice convicted of similar crimes and is now

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01:04:10.960 --> 01:04:14.760
<v Speaker 5>raping and pedophiling his way through neighborhood kids is an

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01:04:14.840 --> 01:04:18.320
<v Speaker 5>employee of Walt Disney. Essentially.

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01:04:20.679 --> 01:04:25.559
<v Speaker 11>Wow, So I mean it's again Walt Disney.

1105
01:04:26.719 --> 01:04:30.199
<v Speaker 5>Right, Well, you want to talk about some fucking raping,

1106
01:04:30.360 --> 01:04:35.320
<v Speaker 5>pedophiling weird shit there. I mean, I've covered Disney almost

1107
01:04:35.400 --> 01:04:39.159
<v Speaker 5>that nauseum. But he was, you know, involved with all

1108
01:04:39.199 --> 01:04:43.320
<v Speaker 5>those weird secret Germans and shit and fucking NASA stuff.

1109
01:04:43.639 --> 01:04:50.239
<v Speaker 5>And it's like the list of pedophiles in Program to

1110
01:04:50.320 --> 01:04:52.239
<v Speaker 5>Kill Us so long, if I went through all of them,

1111
01:04:52.519 --> 01:04:54.559
<v Speaker 5>we'd have to be here for six more hours. But

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01:04:55.000 --> 01:04:59.320
<v Speaker 5>I don't think Disney was mentioned specifically, but Lewis Carroll was,

1113
01:05:00.519 --> 01:05:05.079
<v Speaker 5>and you know, Lewis Carroll's real name is Charles Dodgeson,

1114
01:05:06.000 --> 01:05:14.480
<v Speaker 5>and he was, you know, very influential to the pedophile crowd,

1115
01:05:15.280 --> 01:05:18.320
<v Speaker 5>and he used to take pictures of naked children and

1116
01:05:18.440 --> 01:05:21.679
<v Speaker 5>say that he was just studying them, and people were

1117
01:05:21.800 --> 01:05:25.719
<v Speaker 5>grossed out by it, so he started sketching them, and

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01:05:26.280 --> 01:05:30.599
<v Speaker 5>you know, he he's got all this stuff. Thank you, Suzanne,

1119
01:05:30.719 --> 01:05:38.039
<v Speaker 5>I fucking appreciate that. But you know, he's got all

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01:05:38.079 --> 01:05:41.400
<v Speaker 5>this stuff. This with the girl that was the inspiration

1121
01:05:41.599 --> 01:05:44.559
<v Speaker 5>for Alice in Wonderland, the real little girl's name was

1122
01:05:44.639 --> 01:05:50.880
<v Speaker 5>Alice Little And before the book even dropped, Lewis Carroll

1123
01:05:50.920 --> 01:05:54.239
<v Speaker 5>had been banned from the residents forever coming back there

1124
01:05:54.480 --> 01:05:58.039
<v Speaker 5>or being there near the children again. So you know,

1125
01:05:58.159 --> 01:06:00.199
<v Speaker 5>he clearly had some weird shit going on. And I

1126
01:06:00.320 --> 01:06:04.519
<v Speaker 5>think if you really read the Walrus and the Carpenter poem,

1127
01:06:05.199 --> 01:06:10.360
<v Speaker 5>it's dank with suggestions about pedophilia. I mean, Lisa, you're

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01:06:10.360 --> 01:06:12.360
<v Speaker 5>shaking your head. I'm sure you know what I'm talking about.

1129
01:06:12.519 --> 01:06:14.880
<v Speaker 11>Nick and I have gone back and forth with the

1130
01:06:14.960 --> 01:06:20.239
<v Speaker 11>Lewis Carroll thing because he was a huge proponent of marorscript.

1131
01:06:20.639 --> 01:06:22.840
<v Speaker 11>So he wrote a lot of things backwards because he

1132
01:06:23.119 --> 01:06:27.440
<v Speaker 11>had the Iowas condition of like seeing things backwards, or

1133
01:06:27.519 --> 01:06:30.239
<v Speaker 11>he would, you know, have that whole imaging thing, and

1134
01:06:30.320 --> 01:06:33.639
<v Speaker 11>that's where he gets the whole premise for doing things

1135
01:06:33.679 --> 01:06:38.559
<v Speaker 11>backwards in Alice in Wonderland, and there is speculation that

1136
01:06:38.679 --> 01:06:42.039
<v Speaker 11>he may have been keeping the company of certain occultists

1137
01:06:43.519 --> 01:06:46.639
<v Speaker 11>at the time. Whenever he was, he was a quote

1138
01:06:46.719 --> 01:06:51.320
<v Speaker 11>unquote brilliant mathematician. He was very well respected in the

1139
01:06:51.559 --> 01:06:56.679
<v Speaker 11>academic setting, so to speak, which kind of brings it

1140
01:06:56.760 --> 01:07:00.599
<v Speaker 11>all back to when we talk about academics. We talk

1141
01:07:00.679 --> 01:07:05.119
<v Speaker 11>about Robert Maxwell, who was Gilamed Mactwell's dad, and how

1142
01:07:05.199 --> 01:07:08.840
<v Speaker 11>he had all of these academics under his umbrella as well.

1143
01:07:09.320 --> 01:07:11.840
<v Speaker 11>And we're talking about, you know, all kinds of scientists,

1144
01:07:12.239 --> 01:07:14.599
<v Speaker 11>and then we get the connection of scientists to pedophilia,

1145
01:07:14.760 --> 01:07:22.360
<v Speaker 11>scientists to mental manipulation, brain type of experimentation, and so

1146
01:07:22.519 --> 01:07:25.840
<v Speaker 11>to speak. But yes, Lewis Carroll and most of his

1147
01:07:26.199 --> 01:07:29.400
<v Speaker 11>poetry has kind of been censored from what I understand

1148
01:07:29.840 --> 01:07:33.559
<v Speaker 11>because of it. It's not very pretty.

1149
01:07:34.159 --> 01:07:34.360
<v Speaker 6>Yeah.

1150
01:07:34.920 --> 01:07:37.480
<v Speaker 5>I do think it's fucked up, is what it is.

1151
01:07:37.679 --> 01:07:39.119
<v Speaker 5>I think, Nick, go ahead.

1152
01:07:39.239 --> 01:07:43.320
<v Speaker 4>I do think Crawley ripped him off. He's another person

1153
01:07:43.360 --> 01:07:46.320
<v Speaker 4>that I think Crawley ripped off and reused for you know,

1154
01:07:46.400 --> 01:07:48.480
<v Speaker 4>I mean you could even say maybe some of his

1155
01:07:49.519 --> 01:07:53.320
<v Speaker 4>you know, creepy, perverted style shit could even be somewhere

1156
01:07:53.480 --> 01:07:54.760
<v Speaker 4>kind of like from Lewis Carroll.

1157
01:07:55.960 --> 01:07:57.360
<v Speaker 2>But I even think the Iowas.

1158
01:07:57.480 --> 01:07:59.440
<v Speaker 4>I think that's I think he's I think he ripped

1159
01:07:59.480 --> 01:08:02.480
<v Speaker 4>off Iowa from Lewis caw Yeah, because that's the.

1160
01:08:02.519 --> 01:08:05.800
<v Speaker 5>Name Louis Carroll is is so interesting to me too. Sorry,

1161
01:08:05.840 --> 01:08:07.199
<v Speaker 5>go ahead, Lisa, No.

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01:08:07.320 --> 01:08:09.679
<v Speaker 11>No, no, I was just reiterating what Nick was saying,

1163
01:08:09.800 --> 01:08:13.000
<v Speaker 11>is that the actual syndrome is called Alice in Wonderland

1164
01:08:13.199 --> 01:08:17.399
<v Speaker 11>syndrome anything. Yeah, it's Iowas with you go to Crowley

1165
01:08:17.479 --> 01:08:19.640
<v Speaker 11>and he got all of his divination from a guy

1166
01:08:20.000 --> 01:08:23.239
<v Speaker 11>or a spirit named Iowas. Right.

1167
01:08:23.560 --> 01:08:25.760
<v Speaker 5>Oh, that's crazy. I didn't know that shit. I knew

1168
01:08:25.760 --> 01:08:28.479
<v Speaker 5>about the Alice in Wonderland syndrome though, because I did

1169
01:08:29.039 --> 01:08:32.520
<v Speaker 5>like a thing about Disney. I think I don't know

1170
01:08:32.600 --> 01:08:34.720
<v Speaker 5>who I was talking to, But that's crazy, Like the

1171
01:08:35.319 --> 01:08:38.520
<v Speaker 5>there's an actual condition you can have called alis in

1172
01:08:38.600 --> 01:08:42.600
<v Speaker 5>Wonderland syndrome, and it's it's interesting to me that a

1173
01:08:43.000 --> 01:08:48.319
<v Speaker 5>Disney wanted to produce Alics in Wonderland. You know, John

1174
01:08:48.399 --> 01:08:50.680
<v Speaker 5>Lennon was obsessed with the guy. He had a fucking

1175
01:08:51.239 --> 01:08:57.319
<v Speaker 5>stiff one for fucking Lewis Carroll and John Lennon said

1176
01:08:57.640 --> 01:09:01.600
<v Speaker 5>that if he ever had had the chance, he would

1177
01:09:01.640 --> 01:09:08.119
<v Speaker 5>have been incestuous with his mother. So that's that's, you know,

1178
01:09:09.319 --> 01:09:12.640
<v Speaker 5>to take that for what it's worth. But these people

1179
01:09:12.680 --> 01:09:15.960
<v Speaker 5>who become obsessed with Louis Carroll are into some weird shit.

1180
01:09:16.720 --> 01:09:20.800
<v Speaker 5>And you know, Johnny Depp was in like the live

1181
01:09:20.880 --> 01:09:24.399
<v Speaker 5>action when that's perfect role for fucking his ass. And

1182
01:09:24.720 --> 01:09:27.840
<v Speaker 5>so if you look at the Alice in Wonderland, and

1183
01:09:28.159 --> 01:09:30.680
<v Speaker 5>actually before I forget, I just have to say this.

1184
01:09:31.399 --> 01:09:35.520
<v Speaker 5>When John Benney died, which is another episode, Nick, you

1185
01:09:35.600 --> 01:09:38.920
<v Speaker 5>already know this, but when John Beney died, there was

1186
01:09:39.079 --> 01:09:41.479
<v Speaker 5>these things that broke out in the nineties called the

1187
01:09:41.680 --> 01:09:46.479
<v Speaker 5>Wonderland Raids and they were going after pedophiles and they

1188
01:09:46.600 --> 01:09:49.039
<v Speaker 5>called them the Wonderland Raids. So I mean, like this

1189
01:09:49.199 --> 01:09:52.920
<v Speaker 5>whole tie in with Lewis Carroll, it's very I mean,

1190
01:09:53.000 --> 01:09:54.560
<v Speaker 5>it's it's crazy.

1191
01:09:55.039 --> 01:09:57.039
<v Speaker 4>One thing I want to mention too, just real quick,

1192
01:09:57.239 --> 01:10:01.960
<v Speaker 4>that I I remember just now, uh when we call

1193
01:10:02.000 --> 01:10:05.520
<v Speaker 4>it covered the Fellowship of Friends. That's another old one

1194
01:10:05.760 --> 01:10:07.560
<v Speaker 4>that was when Lux was on the show, and I

1195
01:10:07.680 --> 01:10:10.000
<v Speaker 4>highly suggest people to go check that one out who

1196
01:10:10.039 --> 01:10:11.880
<v Speaker 4>are kind of new listeners. It's an old show. But

1197
01:10:11.960 --> 01:10:15.399
<v Speaker 4>it's really interesting cult that we covered. It's called the

1198
01:10:15.399 --> 01:10:17.279
<v Speaker 4>Fellowship of Friends, and we showed how there was a

1199
01:10:17.319 --> 01:10:20.720
<v Speaker 4>connection to them owning some like it was almost like

1200
01:10:20.800 --> 01:10:23.520
<v Speaker 4>a kid's type of pod school, and it was called

1201
01:10:23.600 --> 01:10:28.399
<v Speaker 4>Lewis Carroll School m And we were like, Yo, that's

1202
01:10:28.439 --> 01:10:29.000
<v Speaker 4>a little weird.

1203
01:10:30.119 --> 01:10:30.960
<v Speaker 3>That's pretty creepy.

1204
01:10:31.640 --> 01:10:33.479
<v Speaker 8>Lewis Carol definitely hung around with a lot of other

1205
01:10:33.520 --> 01:10:38.760
<v Speaker 8>pedophiles too, like Roll Doll, the author, Roll Doll, you know,

1206
01:10:38.880 --> 01:10:39.720
<v Speaker 8>Willie Walker.

1207
01:10:39.560 --> 01:10:40.720
<v Speaker 3>Charlie the chocolate factory.

1208
01:10:44.479 --> 01:10:46.920
<v Speaker 8>Oh yeah, in that story he has the kids eat

1209
01:10:46.960 --> 01:10:49.640
<v Speaker 8>the snosberries in the in the Wonka factory.

1210
01:10:49.720 --> 01:10:49.840
<v Speaker 7>Right.

1211
01:10:50.399 --> 01:10:53.600
<v Speaker 3>In one of the books he describes he described Snosberry's

1212
01:10:53.600 --> 01:10:54.319
<v Speaker 3>as being dicks.

1213
01:10:55.439 --> 01:10:56.800
<v Speaker 5>Oh my god.

1214
01:10:59.319 --> 01:11:01.920
<v Speaker 3>Fuck doesn't really try to hide it, did.

1215
01:11:04.039 --> 01:11:08.039
<v Speaker 5>That's another, by the way, fucking asshole.

1216
01:11:08.239 --> 01:11:08.920
<v Speaker 4>Yeah right.

1217
01:11:12.239 --> 01:11:15.359
<v Speaker 6>Yeah, And and honestly that book is creepy as fuck,

1218
01:11:15.840 --> 01:11:16.960
<v Speaker 6>which is I'm just saying.

1219
01:11:17.279 --> 01:11:19.880
<v Speaker 5>I'm just saying, you know, Johnny Depp's got ties to

1220
01:11:20.000 --> 01:11:22.960
<v Speaker 5>all these fucking weirdos, fucking Marilyn Manson and ship.

1221
01:11:24.199 --> 01:11:24.640
<v Speaker 3>Oh yeah.

1222
01:11:25.840 --> 01:11:28.800
<v Speaker 7>Well, I think I think the real innovation behind Lewis

1223
01:11:28.880 --> 01:11:31.359
<v Speaker 7>Carroll and the and the children's books that are like

1224
01:11:31.479 --> 01:11:35.439
<v Speaker 7>that is that it creates this liminal space between what

1225
01:11:35.640 --> 01:11:40.000
<v Speaker 7>is understandable and what makes absolutely no sense whatsoever. And

1226
01:11:40.119 --> 01:11:42.600
<v Speaker 7>so what what it does is it creates a patterning

1227
01:11:42.720 --> 01:11:46.359
<v Speaker 7>in the kid's mind that there's a place that they

1228
01:11:46.439 --> 01:11:49.840
<v Speaker 7>might end up where they don't understand anything, and if

1229
01:11:49.880 --> 01:11:52.319
<v Speaker 7>they just play along that they can get out of it.

1230
01:11:52.520 --> 01:11:54.279
<v Speaker 7>And if you if you look at like the Mad

1231
01:11:54.359 --> 01:11:57.079
<v Speaker 7>Hatter and all these other things, these are not you know,

1232
01:11:57.479 --> 01:12:01.239
<v Speaker 7>stable people, which would you know, be representative of all

1233
01:12:01.319 --> 01:12:03.880
<v Speaker 7>of the pedophiles that they might come into contact with.

1234
01:12:04.640 --> 01:12:08.600
<v Speaker 7>And everybody is off. Everybody has something strange about them.

1235
01:12:08.960 --> 01:12:12.720
<v Speaker 7>Everybody has something that makes them unique and interesting and weird.

1236
01:12:13.560 --> 01:12:17.680
<v Speaker 7>And in showing these kids these these patterns, you can

1237
01:12:17.760 --> 01:12:20.159
<v Speaker 7>actually use this as sort of like a background trigger.

1238
01:12:20.560 --> 01:12:23.880
<v Speaker 7>So if something's going on that the kid doesn't understand,

1239
01:12:24.279 --> 01:12:27.399
<v Speaker 7>they go back into the into the rabbit hole, you know,

1240
01:12:27.560 --> 01:12:30.800
<v Speaker 7>and they're not really in that sort of conscious frame

1241
01:12:30.880 --> 01:12:33.800
<v Speaker 7>of mind that would normally give them the ability to

1242
01:12:34.079 --> 01:12:37.000
<v Speaker 7>you know, say, you know, enough is enough. So if

1243
01:12:37.079 --> 01:12:39.239
<v Speaker 7>that's the if that's the pattern, you can look at

1244
01:12:39.279 --> 01:12:42.119
<v Speaker 7>stories like Pinocchio and all these other ones where it

1245
01:12:42.199 --> 01:12:44.600
<v Speaker 7>sort of takes them outside of the norm and puts

1246
01:12:44.640 --> 01:12:48.600
<v Speaker 7>them into a thoroughly confusing place, and then somehow at

1247
01:12:48.600 --> 01:12:51.079
<v Speaker 7>the end of it they can come back into reality

1248
01:12:51.359 --> 01:12:54.439
<v Speaker 7>to make it sort of obscure from anybody else who

1249
01:12:54.479 --> 01:12:57.039
<v Speaker 7>would be looking into the patterns of abuse.

1250
01:12:58.760 --> 01:13:02.000
<v Speaker 5>I mean, you hit it right on, because I've done

1251
01:13:02.000 --> 01:13:05.680
<v Speaker 5>a lot of research on SRA. I got a friend

1252
01:13:06.920 --> 01:13:10.199
<v Speaker 5>in podcasting. His name is Sean McCann or you guys

1253
01:13:10.359 --> 01:13:12.760
<v Speaker 5>know who he is. He has to Wake the Dead podcast.

1254
01:13:13.359 --> 01:13:18.800
<v Speaker 5>He does a lot of research into SRA. And the

1255
01:13:19.239 --> 01:13:23.279
<v Speaker 5>thing is, they use movies like Alice in Wonderland. I

1256
01:13:23.439 --> 01:13:27.600
<v Speaker 5>think the og in my opinion is the Wizard of Oz,

1257
01:13:28.159 --> 01:13:35.239
<v Speaker 5>But they use films like this to trigger dissociative states

1258
01:13:35.399 --> 01:13:42.600
<v Speaker 5>in children as they're going through serious trauma, usually sexual trauma,

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01:13:43.239 --> 01:13:48.079
<v Speaker 5>so they almost send the kid down the rabbit hole.

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<v Speaker 5>That's like the dissociative state like Paul Binassi talks about

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<v Speaker 5>and a lot of these survivors talk about, is basically like,

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01:13:58.159 --> 01:14:01.439
<v Speaker 5>you know, you have a trigger in some type of

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01:14:01.600 --> 01:14:05.079
<v Speaker 5>phrase something like that, and you go to this disassociative state.

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<v Speaker 5>But in order to do that, you have to go

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01:14:07.640 --> 01:14:11.720
<v Speaker 5>through pretty serious trauma. And I mean Paul Banasi had

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<v Speaker 5>like fucking I don't even know how many personalities, like

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01:14:14.600 --> 01:14:17.319
<v Speaker 5>twenty or something like that. So you can imagine what

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01:14:17.439 --> 01:14:20.000
<v Speaker 5>they would have to do to a person to get

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01:14:20.279 --> 01:14:26.039
<v Speaker 5>twenty alter personalities into one person, you know. And there's

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01:14:26.119 --> 01:14:30.960
<v Speaker 5>even people who have come out and said, like Barbie

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01:14:31.039 --> 01:14:34.239
<v Speaker 5>dolls have played a really big role in traumatizing and

1272
01:14:34.359 --> 01:14:39.319
<v Speaker 5>disassociating girls because they take a Barbie doll, which is

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01:14:39.880 --> 01:14:42.399
<v Speaker 5>a whole other episode in and of itself, but they

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01:14:42.520 --> 01:14:46.399
<v Speaker 5>take like a Barbie and they're like, you're not Teresa tonight,

1275
01:14:46.560 --> 01:14:50.479
<v Speaker 5>you're Britney, and you know, it's like a trigger for them,

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01:14:50.920 --> 01:14:54.680
<v Speaker 5>and they go to somewhere else and then Britney comes

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01:14:54.720 --> 01:14:59.159
<v Speaker 5>out and gets raped, and then you know, Teresa comes

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01:14:59.239 --> 01:15:02.079
<v Speaker 5>back later and has it's no idea what happened. That's

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01:15:02.279 --> 01:15:04.159
<v Speaker 5>the type of shit that they do. That's what they

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01:15:04.640 --> 01:15:09.439
<v Speaker 5>work on. I don't think you know, the mind control

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01:15:09.800 --> 01:15:13.479
<v Speaker 5>aspect of it and the personality aspect of it. It's

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01:15:13.800 --> 01:15:16.199
<v Speaker 5>hard for some people to believe, but they probably have

1283
01:15:16.319 --> 01:15:18.840
<v Speaker 5>it down to a science, and it probably didn't take

1284
01:15:18.880 --> 01:15:20.720
<v Speaker 5>them that long to figure it out. And now it's

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01:15:20.840 --> 01:15:23.560
<v Speaker 5>just a process. It's like we're getting at a factory

1286
01:15:23.640 --> 01:15:28.840
<v Speaker 5>pumping out fucking you know whatever soap like they just

1287
01:15:29.319 --> 01:15:32.399
<v Speaker 5>bring the kids in, they do this to them next.

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01:15:32.960 --> 01:15:36.600
<v Speaker 5>It's a process and they have it down to a science,

1289
01:15:36.840 --> 01:15:39.279
<v Speaker 5>like it's easy to do this at this point, what

1290
01:15:39.399 --> 01:15:40.319
<v Speaker 5>do you guys think.

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01:15:40.760 --> 01:15:41.960
<v Speaker 3>It might be? The process?

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01:15:43.239 --> 01:15:44.960
<v Speaker 11>Oh, right, right, process?

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<v Speaker 7>In my opinion, I've had some I've had friends who

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01:15:50.319 --> 01:15:52.840
<v Speaker 7>have had d I D before, and what ends up

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01:15:52.960 --> 01:15:57.399
<v Speaker 7>happening is you'll have a single traumatizing event that the

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01:15:57.520 --> 01:16:00.279
<v Speaker 7>kid cannot come to grips to, and so as a

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01:16:00.359 --> 01:16:05.119
<v Speaker 7>self defense mechanism, the mind splits off and creates another

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01:16:05.359 --> 01:16:10.520
<v Speaker 7>sort of personality that will protect that original personality from

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01:16:10.600 --> 01:16:14.520
<v Speaker 7>anybody harming it again. Because at the very core of

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01:16:14.640 --> 01:16:19.039
<v Speaker 7>this whole thing is the idea that the mind will

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01:16:19.119 --> 01:16:24.119
<v Speaker 7>protect the ego that started and it'll do so by

1302
01:16:24.560 --> 01:16:28.560
<v Speaker 7>creating these personalities. So Paul Bonacci, he could still be,

1303
01:16:29.960 --> 01:16:33.560
<v Speaker 7>you know, spiraling off these other personalities as a method

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01:16:33.680 --> 01:16:37.680
<v Speaker 7>of keeping that original safe from anybody harming it again.

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01:16:37.760 --> 01:16:41.239
<v Speaker 7>Because the one thing that the mind can control is

1306
01:16:41.319 --> 01:16:43.880
<v Speaker 7>the thing that the body can't control. You know, if

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01:16:43.920 --> 01:16:46.880
<v Speaker 7>you can control your mind, and that's what this all

1308
01:16:46.960 --> 01:16:50.079
<v Speaker 7>goes into, is if they can create these personalities that

1309
01:16:50.199 --> 01:16:55.439
<v Speaker 7>are hyper reactive and hyper aggressive. Then they can use

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01:16:55.560 --> 01:16:59.560
<v Speaker 7>those other personalities to then carry out things that the

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01:17:00.319 --> 01:17:01.319
<v Speaker 7>personality would never.

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<v Speaker 5>Dream of doing, like a Venturian candidate type ship, right,

1313
01:17:06.960 --> 01:17:07.520
<v Speaker 5>mm hm.

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01:17:10.680 --> 01:17:13.800
<v Speaker 2>M hm, anything else.

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01:17:14.600 --> 01:17:15.680
<v Speaker 10>That's the whole thing with.

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01:17:17.239 --> 01:17:18.399
<v Speaker 5>Oh Go Ahead, Mike.

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01:17:20.199 --> 01:17:22.520
<v Speaker 2>I'm just gonna say that's the whole thing with the Satanism.

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01:17:22.680 --> 01:17:25.520
<v Speaker 10>I mean, they might not believe it, but why is

1319
01:17:25.600 --> 01:17:27.880
<v Speaker 10>the intelligence involved in it, and why does it work?

1320
01:17:27.920 --> 01:17:28.880
<v Speaker 2>Why is it effective?

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01:17:29.520 --> 01:17:34.239
<v Speaker 10>It's because it's so evil, it's so insane that the

1322
01:17:34.359 --> 01:17:38.520
<v Speaker 10>child can't comprehend it. I mean, son Cat's Heads Off

1323
01:17:39.319 --> 01:17:43.520
<v Speaker 10>is just the beginning. So that's why they do it,

1324
01:17:43.720 --> 01:17:46.279
<v Speaker 10>is because it's so terrible and it's so scary that

1325
01:17:47.159 --> 01:17:49.119
<v Speaker 10>the kid will just completely shut off.

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01:17:50.079 --> 01:17:54.439
<v Speaker 5>Mm hmmm. Another state, OH Go Ahead is.

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01:17:54.479 --> 01:17:57.880
<v Speaker 7>An exact science, So they need a constant stream of

1328
01:17:58.079 --> 01:18:00.840
<v Speaker 7>victims until they can find the kids that can be

1329
01:18:01.039 --> 01:18:05.640
<v Speaker 7>influenced into creating these alternate personalities. So it's it's even

1330
01:18:05.720 --> 01:18:08.079
<v Speaker 7>sicker when you think about the factory level or the

1331
01:18:08.199 --> 01:18:11.079
<v Speaker 7>industrial level that they're doing this child abuse on to

1332
01:18:11.239 --> 01:18:14.319
<v Speaker 7>try and find one or two of these individuals that

1333
01:18:14.479 --> 01:18:17.840
<v Speaker 7>can then be influenced to harm other people using these

1334
01:18:17.880 --> 01:18:19.039
<v Speaker 7>alternate personalities.

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01:18:22.840 --> 01:18:26.840
<v Speaker 5>Yeah, I mean it's definitely satanic because I mean, if

1336
01:18:26.880 --> 01:18:29.720
<v Speaker 5>you think about it, it was like Mike's saying. I've

1337
01:18:29.760 --> 01:18:34.560
<v Speaker 5>always said, like wherever on the spectrum you are, if

1338
01:18:34.640 --> 01:18:39.119
<v Speaker 5>you're like Christian, atheist, agnostic, whatever, you have to admit

1339
01:18:40.119 --> 01:18:42.680
<v Speaker 5>that they're doing this shit and they got to be

1340
01:18:42.760 --> 01:18:45.680
<v Speaker 5>seeing results because they just keep doing it and keep

1341
01:18:45.760 --> 01:18:49.479
<v Speaker 5>doing it and keep doing it into varying degrees of horribleness.

1342
01:18:49.680 --> 01:18:54.039
<v Speaker 5>So I mean, if these satanic rituals are working, which

1343
01:18:54.199 --> 01:18:56.800
<v Speaker 5>they must be because they keep doing them, if there's

1344
01:18:56.880 --> 01:18:59.720
<v Speaker 5>a bad, then there's a good. And that is what

1345
01:18:59.840 --> 01:19:02.079
<v Speaker 5>I I always try to remind people about, Like there's

1346
01:19:02.119 --> 01:19:06.319
<v Speaker 5>some really fucked up shit, but at least, thank God,

1347
01:19:07.239 --> 01:19:10.399
<v Speaker 5>there's also a good side of the world.

1348
01:19:10.520 --> 01:19:10.680
<v Speaker 10>You know.

1349
01:19:11.560 --> 01:19:14.000
<v Speaker 6>Yeah, well even a lot of exorcists you talk about

1350
01:19:14.079 --> 01:19:17.319
<v Speaker 6>that where like that's the moment that sort of gives

1351
01:19:17.399 --> 01:19:22.079
<v Speaker 6>permission for like a entity to enter is like through trauma,

1352
01:19:22.960 --> 01:19:27.680
<v Speaker 6>you know, So that's when you get d id bipolar. Like,

1353
01:19:27.880 --> 01:19:31.239
<v Speaker 6>not all mental illness is actually mental illness. This is

1354
01:19:31.439 --> 01:19:35.279
<v Speaker 6>sometimes a spiritual problem or a trauma based problem. Unfortunately,

1355
01:19:35.960 --> 01:19:38.319
<v Speaker 6>So like you know, we all know people who've been

1356
01:19:38.560 --> 01:19:41.680
<v Speaker 6>probably abused in our lives, and it's like they didn't

1357
01:19:41.720 --> 01:19:44.159
<v Speaker 6>go through a specific program, but that shit still happened

1358
01:19:44.199 --> 01:19:47.640
<v Speaker 6>to them, right, or even like us just watching these films,

1359
01:19:47.720 --> 01:19:49.720
<v Speaker 6>like even as a kid, I hated The Wizard of Us.

1360
01:19:50.039 --> 01:19:53.359
<v Speaker 6>I didn't know why. I just really fucking hate that movie.

1361
01:19:53.760 --> 01:19:55.880
<v Speaker 6>But then it's like somebody, some adult is telling you

1362
01:19:56.119 --> 01:19:58.720
<v Speaker 6>this is a great movie. You're gonna love it, sit

1363
01:19:58.840 --> 01:20:02.960
<v Speaker 6>and watch it. You're like, feel so uncomfortable the entire time,

1364
01:20:03.039 --> 01:20:04.760
<v Speaker 6>but you're like, this is good for you. You're gonna

1365
01:20:04.800 --> 01:20:08.000
<v Speaker 6>love it. Or read The Witches it's a great book. No,

1366
01:20:08.319 --> 01:20:12.239
<v Speaker 6>actually that book is shitty and it's very uncomfortable. So

1367
01:20:12.359 --> 01:20:15.319
<v Speaker 6>it's like you are already being taught to sit through

1368
01:20:15.399 --> 01:20:18.880
<v Speaker 6>discomfort and be like yeah, that's okay, Like this is

1369
01:20:18.920 --> 01:20:21.680
<v Speaker 6>good for you, and you're like, so, it's like we're

1370
01:20:21.720 --> 01:20:27.920
<v Speaker 6>all being mildly traumatized, like on a mass scale regardless,

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01:20:28.920 --> 01:20:33.680
<v Speaker 6>you know, fucking yeah, or you said one hundred fucking

1372
01:20:34.359 --> 01:20:36.479
<v Speaker 6>I actually you.

1373
01:20:36.520 --> 01:20:39.199
<v Speaker 5>Know, And they say, oh, it's for kids. Look, it's

1374
01:20:39.319 --> 01:20:42.119
<v Speaker 5>made just for you. You're gonna love this. It's a

1375
01:20:42.199 --> 01:20:46.520
<v Speaker 5>kid's movie. Fucking half of the half of the Disney

1376
01:20:46.680 --> 01:20:49.680
<v Speaker 5>shit is got like, if you watch it as an adult,

1377
01:20:49.760 --> 01:20:51.680
<v Speaker 5>you're like, is this really for fucking kids?

1378
01:20:52.159 --> 01:20:52.319
<v Speaker 7>Yo?

1379
01:20:53.239 --> 01:20:53.800
<v Speaker 5>Well a movie.

1380
01:20:53.880 --> 01:20:56.720
<v Speaker 6>A movie just came out this Christmas. It was all

1381
01:20:56.800 --> 01:20:59.760
<v Speaker 6>over streaming your stand up with Jack Black.

1382
01:21:00.439 --> 01:21:01.680
<v Speaker 5>Then oh they walk off.

1383
01:21:02.000 --> 01:21:07.600
<v Speaker 6>I watched it by my kids were like. My older

1384
01:21:07.680 --> 01:21:10.039
<v Speaker 6>one was like halfway through, he's like, should we really

1385
01:21:10.119 --> 01:21:13.800
<v Speaker 6>be watching this? And I was like, no, you can

1386
01:21:13.840 --> 01:21:15.920
<v Speaker 6>turn it around. I was like, this is fucked up.

1387
01:21:16.399 --> 01:21:21.119
<v Speaker 5>It's basically fucking literally Satan literally running around and he's

1388
01:21:21.199 --> 01:21:23.640
<v Speaker 5>like making friends with him, like he's a fucking leprechaun

1389
01:21:23.800 --> 01:21:26.520
<v Speaker 5>or some shit, like oh, let me take you to school?

1390
01:21:26.640 --> 01:21:29.279
<v Speaker 5>Is showing tel day everybody, This is my friend, fucking

1391
01:21:29.439 --> 01:21:35.960
<v Speaker 5>Satan iconjured. This is what kids are watching. This is

1392
01:21:36.039 --> 01:21:37.600
<v Speaker 5>the kid's Christmas baby.

1393
01:21:37.640 --> 01:21:41.560
<v Speaker 6>Now a normy say, like a normy family, so like

1394
01:21:41.720 --> 01:21:43.920
<v Speaker 6>not to like put my relatives under the bus, but

1395
01:21:44.079 --> 01:21:45.720
<v Speaker 6>like my sister in law was like, oh yeah, the

1396
01:21:45.800 --> 01:21:47.760
<v Speaker 6>kids thought it was so funny, it was so cute,

1397
01:21:47.800 --> 01:21:48.279
<v Speaker 6>and I was like.

1398
01:21:48.840 --> 01:21:52.920
<v Speaker 5>Are you fucked It's the devil. It's literally the.

1399
01:21:54.840 --> 01:21:57.680
<v Speaker 6>This isn't cute. Let's make friends with the devil and

1400
01:21:57.880 --> 01:22:00.680
<v Speaker 6>like he's funny Jack Black guy, you know, I don't know.

1401
01:22:00.800 --> 01:22:04.119
<v Speaker 5>I love Jack Black. I really that he fucking did

1402
01:22:04.199 --> 01:22:10.800
<v Speaker 5>that Shitjra for God's sake, you know, fucking yeah, it

1403
01:22:10.960 --> 01:22:12.800
<v Speaker 5>was weird. Sorry, I digress.

1404
01:22:13.720 --> 01:22:15.680
<v Speaker 11>One thing I was going to say, just to insert

1405
01:22:15.720 --> 01:22:18.520
<v Speaker 11>real quick, is that when I went to go do

1406
01:22:18.680 --> 01:22:21.359
<v Speaker 11>a quick study of some of Croly stuff at the

1407
01:22:21.439 --> 01:22:24.600
<v Speaker 11>UT Library, they have I think a majority of his

1408
01:22:24.840 --> 01:22:29.159
<v Speaker 11>estate there at the UT Library. You know what other

1409
01:22:29.359 --> 01:22:34.920
<v Speaker 11>estate they also have the Lewis Carroll one, oh shit,

1410
01:22:36.720 --> 01:22:38.640
<v Speaker 11>which I found interested because I was there whatever and

1411
01:22:38.680 --> 01:22:40.119
<v Speaker 11>they were like, oh, are you doing a biography? And

1412
01:22:40.159 --> 01:22:41.640
<v Speaker 11>I was like, oh, I'm just doing a quick study.

1413
01:22:41.920 --> 01:22:43.920
<v Speaker 11>And they're like oh, They're like, we're really excited. We

1414
01:22:44.119 --> 01:22:49.600
<v Speaker 11>just got the Lewis Carroll estate whatever. And I was like, well,

1415
01:22:49.880 --> 01:22:50.960
<v Speaker 11>that's random.

1416
01:22:51.920 --> 01:22:53.600
<v Speaker 5>The Lewis Carroll estate.

1417
01:22:54.079 --> 01:22:58.920
<v Speaker 11>Well, like part of his books, some of the paintings, oh, biographies,

1418
01:22:59.039 --> 01:23:03.079
<v Speaker 11>I mean a journal that guy literally thought it was

1419
01:23:03.199 --> 01:23:07.720
<v Speaker 11>just how they also mentioned that and I was like, yeah,

1420
01:23:08.319 --> 01:23:12.920
<v Speaker 11>people have also not only come seqrally but also looks

1421
01:23:12.920 --> 01:23:13.920
<v Speaker 11>at Lewis Carroll.

1422
01:23:13.640 --> 01:23:14.239
<v Speaker 5>At the same time.

1423
01:23:14.279 --> 01:23:17.000
<v Speaker 11>I don't know, I mean just it was just very random.

1424
01:23:19.079 --> 01:23:24.079
<v Speaker 5>Well, Lewis Carroll is fucking he's fucking you know. He sorry,

1425
01:23:24.119 --> 01:23:27.159
<v Speaker 5>I just have to say this. He was sketching naked kids,

1426
01:23:27.279 --> 01:23:31.000
<v Speaker 5>like fucking Leo and fucking the Titanic type shit, and

1427
01:23:31.159 --> 01:23:35.119
<v Speaker 5>like fucking sketching him laying on couches and shit, fucking naked.

1428
01:23:35.600 --> 01:23:39.560
<v Speaker 5>So everybody who thinks like his all separate the art

1429
01:23:39.600 --> 01:23:44.840
<v Speaker 5>from the artist. Some shit you cannot Alice in Wonderland

1430
01:23:44.920 --> 01:23:49.520
<v Speaker 5>your way out of just saying, right, what are the.

1431
01:23:49.600 --> 01:23:54.079
<v Speaker 7>Deep patterning techniques that Disney movies use. Is the death

1432
01:23:54.119 --> 01:23:57.079
<v Speaker 7>of the parents at the beginning of the movie, so

1433
01:23:57.640 --> 01:24:02.239
<v Speaker 7>automatically it becomes a trymatizing event that then the kids

1434
01:24:02.319 --> 01:24:06.039
<v Speaker 7>sort of like, you know, are like, where's where's my stability,

1435
01:24:06.079 --> 01:24:10.000
<v Speaker 7>where's my you know, stasis point. And once they've you know,

1436
01:24:10.680 --> 01:24:15.560
<v Speaker 7>symbolically in the movie taken the protagonist's parents away, that's

1437
01:24:15.600 --> 01:24:18.520
<v Speaker 7>when things start to happen to that character that then

1438
01:24:18.800 --> 01:24:21.920
<v Speaker 7>sort of compounds into this storyline where then they have

1439
01:24:22.039 --> 01:24:25.359
<v Speaker 7>to make sense of this event and on a subconscious level,

1440
01:24:25.439 --> 01:24:28.039
<v Speaker 7>it can be very traumatic for the kids, and they're

1441
01:24:28.079 --> 01:24:30.960
<v Speaker 7>always doing it in these Disney movies like Bambi and

1442
01:24:31.319 --> 01:24:34.760
<v Speaker 7>several others. It's like the parents die right off the bat,

1443
01:24:34.880 --> 01:24:39.039
<v Speaker 7>and so the kids feel without any security, even if

1444
01:24:39.640 --> 01:24:42.680
<v Speaker 7>they're not really paying attention to the movie. That's something

1445
01:24:42.760 --> 01:24:44.279
<v Speaker 7>that sort of pops up in the background. And how

1446
01:24:44.279 --> 01:24:46.920
<v Speaker 7>many times do kids watch these Disney movies over and

1447
01:24:47.079 --> 01:24:47.720
<v Speaker 7>over again?

1448
01:24:47.880 --> 01:24:52.560
<v Speaker 5>You know, yeahve frozen. The parents are dead too, but

1449
01:24:52.680 --> 01:24:56.600
<v Speaker 5>it almost like normalizes the child to be okay with

1450
01:24:56.720 --> 01:24:59.760
<v Speaker 5>the parents not being around. And it also kind of

1451
01:24:59.800 --> 01:25:02.319
<v Speaker 5>can conditions the kid to think like, oh, all the

1452
01:25:02.520 --> 01:25:06.520
<v Speaker 5>fun happens when the parents aren't around, because you know,

1453
01:25:06.800 --> 01:25:09.920
<v Speaker 5>it's always like, oh, my fucking parents died and then

1454
01:25:10.000 --> 01:25:12.720
<v Speaker 5>I fucking went on this amazing adventure and fucking did

1455
01:25:12.760 --> 01:25:15.720
<v Speaker 5>all this shit. Thank god my parents died at the

1456
01:25:15.800 --> 01:25:18.520
<v Speaker 5>beginning so I could do all this fucking Peter Panning

1457
01:25:18.680 --> 01:25:22.000
<v Speaker 5>shit or whatever it is. That's not Peter Pants specifically,

1458
01:25:22.119 --> 01:25:25.880
<v Speaker 5>but you get the idea they program the kids into

1459
01:25:25.960 --> 01:25:29.560
<v Speaker 5>thinking that's when the fun stuff happens. You don't need

1460
01:25:29.680 --> 01:25:33.880
<v Speaker 5>mom and dad. They're dead to you, Like, that's that's

1461
01:25:33.960 --> 01:25:37.239
<v Speaker 5>important to put in there at an early age.

1462
01:25:37.960 --> 01:25:42.520
<v Speaker 7>Peter Pants specifically, the freest, most awesome hero ever is

1463
01:25:42.600 --> 01:25:45.640
<v Speaker 7>an orphan who lives in this land that has no time.

1464
01:25:45.800 --> 01:25:47.520
<v Speaker 7>So it's it's still that sick.

1465
01:25:47.640 --> 01:25:51.079
<v Speaker 5>It's like kids watch that, they're like, fucking sign me up,

1466
01:25:51.840 --> 01:25:54.199
<v Speaker 5>fucking make me an orphan right now. I want to

1467
01:25:54.279 --> 01:25:57.479
<v Speaker 5>go do it and be fucking Captain hook and shit.

1468
01:25:58.039 --> 01:26:03.560
<v Speaker 5>But even like The Goonies, where the fuck is the parents?

1469
01:26:04.279 --> 01:26:11.000
<v Speaker 5>When the Goonies is happening, we're literally like, where the

1470
01:26:11.119 --> 01:26:16.159
<v Speaker 5>fuck are the parents? But that's what they want you

1471
01:26:16.239 --> 01:26:19.800
<v Speaker 5>to think. They want you to find One Eyed Willie's

1472
01:26:20.640 --> 01:26:25.600
<v Speaker 5>treasure chest when your parents are around. What did you

1473
01:26:25.720 --> 01:26:27.079
<v Speaker 5>think about it? You can ye?

1474
01:26:28.039 --> 01:26:31.039
<v Speaker 6>He breaks the He breaks the statue in the beginning.

1475
01:26:30.720 --> 01:26:35.079
<v Speaker 5>Of the movie too. What in thees? Yes, you know

1476
01:26:35.920 --> 01:26:40.119
<v Speaker 5>he falls off the One Eyed Willie. No, I never

1477
01:26:40.760 --> 01:26:42.279
<v Speaker 5>never made that connection till right now.

1478
01:26:42.399 --> 01:26:43.039
<v Speaker 6>Thanks Julia.

1479
01:26:43.640 --> 01:26:48.640
<v Speaker 5>Yeah, well thanks no to Spielberg, because that motherfucker is

1480
01:26:49.000 --> 01:26:54.199
<v Speaker 5>up to some ship. But like, you know, speaking to Spielberg,

1481
01:26:54.439 --> 01:26:56.640
<v Speaker 5>he's not mentioned in Program to Kill or anything, but

1482
01:26:56.800 --> 01:27:01.000
<v Speaker 5>somebody ought to add him to a list of pedophiles

1483
01:27:01.199 --> 01:27:04.680
<v Speaker 5>because I'm so sure. I mean, look at his fucking

1484
01:27:05.199 --> 01:27:11.119
<v Speaker 5>cast of characters. He's got Heather or Rourke disteriously and

1485
01:27:11.199 --> 01:27:13.920
<v Speaker 5>there's all this these stories about what really happened to her,

1486
01:27:14.600 --> 01:27:18.119
<v Speaker 5>Drew Barrymore, She's pretty fucked up. If you ask me

1487
01:27:18.920 --> 01:27:22.399
<v Speaker 5>and if you if you've got her to say the truth,

1488
01:27:22.520 --> 01:27:25.159
<v Speaker 5>she'd probably tell you all kinds of stuff. I mean,

1489
01:27:25.279 --> 01:27:30.279
<v Speaker 5>he literally only makes movies where it's focused around kids,

1490
01:27:30.640 --> 01:27:33.079
<v Speaker 5>or there's like a lot of kids in it or

1491
01:27:33.119 --> 01:27:37.279
<v Speaker 5>some shit like that. I literally I don't know the

1492
01:27:37.760 --> 01:27:43.319
<v Speaker 5>guy from uh Back to the Future, the guy that

1493
01:27:43.399 --> 01:27:47.000
<v Speaker 5>played Michael J. Fox's dad. His name is Crispin Glover.

1494
01:27:47.760 --> 01:27:51.119
<v Speaker 5>He wrote this big, long thing to Steven Spielberg, like

1495
01:27:51.800 --> 01:27:55.399
<v Speaker 5>why do you touch kids? Why do you have kids

1496
01:27:56.720 --> 01:28:00.279
<v Speaker 5>in scenes with shit and piss all over them? And

1497
01:28:00.600 --> 01:28:02.880
<v Speaker 5>why do you and like, you guys need to go

1498
01:28:02.960 --> 01:28:05.760
<v Speaker 5>look at up. Crispin Glover he wrote this whole thing

1499
01:28:05.880 --> 01:28:08.319
<v Speaker 5>to head Loose. You're nodding, do you know what I'm

1500
01:28:08.359 --> 01:28:08.920
<v Speaker 5>talking about?

1501
01:28:09.640 --> 01:28:12.760
<v Speaker 7>It's horrendous, and nobody paid any attention to it. After that,

1502
01:28:12.880 --> 01:28:15.119
<v Speaker 7>it's like, oh, Crispin Glover, he's a crazy guy. But

1503
01:28:15.199 --> 01:28:18.600
<v Speaker 7>it's like, dude, he's making very specific allegations against one

1504
01:28:18.640 --> 01:28:22.239
<v Speaker 7>of these untouchable directors. And if you notice a lot

1505
01:28:22.319 --> 01:28:24.920
<v Speaker 7>of the directors that got you know, in trouble on

1506
01:28:25.039 --> 01:28:31.560
<v Speaker 7>Twitter for all these pedophilic statements, they're like Hollywood's favorite directors,

1507
01:28:31.640 --> 01:28:34.560
<v Speaker 7>you know, the guy who directed. He got in trouble

1508
01:28:34.640 --> 01:28:38.079
<v Speaker 7>for all these pedophilic statements, and you know what happened

1509
01:28:38.079 --> 01:28:43.399
<v Speaker 7>to him? Nothing? You know, James Gunn again, he got

1510
01:28:43.439 --> 01:28:46.199
<v Speaker 7>promoted again saying it, but nobody does anything.

1511
01:28:47.479 --> 01:28:51.359
<v Speaker 5>No, he got promoted.

1512
01:28:51.680 --> 01:28:54.840
<v Speaker 3>Congratulations, you're a pedophile. You're the CEO of Marvel.

1513
01:28:56.000 --> 01:28:56.279
<v Speaker 4>Wow.

1514
01:28:57.319 --> 01:29:03.600
<v Speaker 6>That Dan Schneider guy too, right, what did he say something?

1515
01:29:04.800 --> 01:29:04.960
<v Speaker 4>Oh?

1516
01:29:05.680 --> 01:29:07.359
<v Speaker 5>I was thinking about the guy that's in all the

1517
01:29:07.399 --> 01:29:13.800
<v Speaker 5>Happy Gilmore and all that ship weird. What's his name? Steve? No,

1518
01:29:18.600 --> 01:29:19.760
<v Speaker 5>don't say Steve.

1519
01:29:25.159 --> 01:29:29.560
<v Speaker 7>Schneider character would have hot dead parties with people.

1520
01:29:29.359 --> 01:29:32.079
<v Speaker 5>In the cast, and like, yeah he would, he would.

1521
01:29:32.720 --> 01:29:34.960
<v Speaker 7>He had a foot up session and you can see

1522
01:29:36.119 --> 01:29:39.159
<v Speaker 7>what happened to one of his most famous stars. What's

1523
01:29:39.199 --> 01:29:42.279
<v Speaker 7>what's her name? The the one that's basically living on

1524
01:29:42.359 --> 01:29:49.319
<v Speaker 7>the streets now, she had her own show. Yeah, yeah, I.

1525
01:29:52.439 --> 01:29:55.159
<v Speaker 8>Love She also became best friends with J. J. Bryan,

1526
01:29:55.239 --> 01:29:57.880
<v Speaker 8>the head of one of the process cold off shoots,

1527
01:29:58.800 --> 01:30:00.279
<v Speaker 8>So I really think her a lot of or down.

1528
01:30:00.640 --> 01:30:03.319
<v Speaker 8>It may include Dan Schneider, but it also includes the

1529
01:30:03.439 --> 01:30:05.000
<v Speaker 8>processed Church of the Mandavines.

1530
01:30:05.760 --> 01:30:08.399
<v Speaker 6>Is Dan Schneider also the one involved with Britney Spears's

1531
01:30:08.479 --> 01:30:09.600
<v Speaker 6>sister Jamie.

1532
01:30:09.359 --> 01:30:13.359
<v Speaker 5>Ly Zoey or what was that show called zoe Want Oh.

1533
01:30:13.840 --> 01:30:15.680
<v Speaker 6>Yeah, I don't know those sitting of the show, but

1534
01:30:16.079 --> 01:30:19.680
<v Speaker 6>I think I don't rumor to be the dad, right, Yeah,

1535
01:30:19.800 --> 01:30:23.880
<v Speaker 6>it's like her baby daddy or whatever. It's weird. And

1536
01:30:23.920 --> 01:30:27.079
<v Speaker 6>then yeah, the Nickelodeon logo is the foot Well it

1537
01:30:27.319 --> 01:30:29.760
<v Speaker 6>was for the longest time back.

1538
01:30:29.680 --> 01:30:33.840
<v Speaker 5>In the day. But I mean, if you think about it,

1539
01:30:33.960 --> 01:30:36.720
<v Speaker 5>there are other actors who have tried to come out

1540
01:30:36.760 --> 01:30:39.600
<v Speaker 5>and say stuff like this, this Crisp and Glover guy,

1541
01:30:40.800 --> 01:30:43.039
<v Speaker 5>and it's like they get this and they're reading it

1542
01:30:43.159 --> 01:30:45.039
<v Speaker 5>and they're like, oh, who the fuck are you the

1543
01:30:45.199 --> 01:30:49.159
<v Speaker 5>dad from fucking Back to the future? Fuck you? Like, oh,

1544
01:30:49.319 --> 01:30:53.119
<v Speaker 5>because you're not the fucking level of star or something

1545
01:30:53.359 --> 01:30:58.199
<v Speaker 5>like you can't be taken for your yeah, for your

1546
01:30:58.239 --> 01:31:03.159
<v Speaker 5>word or what I mean. But I mean, Steven Spielberg,

1547
01:31:03.279 --> 01:31:04.800
<v Speaker 5>I don't know if you guys have heard about what

1548
01:31:04.920 --> 01:31:07.600
<v Speaker 5>could have possibly happened to Heather or work, but he's

1549
01:31:07.640 --> 01:31:12.319
<v Speaker 5>a fucking douche packer, right.

1550
01:31:12.600 --> 01:31:14.319
<v Speaker 7>Uh was that Poltergeist?

1551
01:31:14.880 --> 01:31:21.920
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I've heard some yeah m hm theories.

1552
01:31:23.720 --> 01:31:26.199
<v Speaker 6>I think the girl, the young actress from Jurassic Park,

1553
01:31:26.239 --> 01:31:30.000
<v Speaker 6>the original one, played the granddaughter. She also came out

1554
01:31:30.039 --> 01:31:32.319
<v Speaker 6>and said stuff about Spielberger, and she like refuses to

1555
01:31:32.359 --> 01:31:36.680
<v Speaker 6>go to any like cast like you know, get togethers

1556
01:31:36.880 --> 01:31:41.239
<v Speaker 6>or do any interviews. Nothing. She was one and done,

1557
01:31:41.439 --> 01:31:44.000
<v Speaker 6>one and done movie after that because of Spielberg.

1558
01:31:45.039 --> 01:31:49.359
<v Speaker 5>Wow, I mean think about that. That that's fucking nuts,

1559
01:31:49.560 --> 01:31:54.720
<v Speaker 5>and like it's still you know, I hate to say this,

1560
01:31:54.960 --> 01:31:58.800
<v Speaker 5>but some of them, the people that we idolized the most,

1561
01:31:58.920 --> 01:32:02.840
<v Speaker 5>that we hold on some type of pedestal that like

1562
01:32:02.960 --> 01:32:06.279
<v Speaker 5>they're all usually involved in some weird shit like this,

1563
01:32:06.720 --> 01:32:12.520
<v Speaker 5>And I mean that's pretty much so for the first

1564
01:32:12.680 --> 01:32:15.199
<v Speaker 5>part of Program to Kill, that's pretty much what he

1565
01:32:15.359 --> 01:32:17.720
<v Speaker 5>goes into. It are these pedophile rings and stuff. And

1566
01:32:17.760 --> 01:32:20.439
<v Speaker 5>I know it's hard to believe, and I know it's gross,

1567
01:32:20.520 --> 01:32:22.560
<v Speaker 5>and I know it's hard to talk about, and people,

1568
01:32:23.600 --> 01:32:27.000
<v Speaker 5>you know, dramatize shit sometimes, but if you're going to

1569
01:32:27.039 --> 01:32:32.680
<v Speaker 5>Reprogram to Kill, this is very important information. And I

1570
01:32:32.800 --> 01:32:35.159
<v Speaker 5>think that the first like I said, I think it's

1571
01:32:35.239 --> 01:32:38.640
<v Speaker 5>like ten chapters or something about these pedophile rings. Nothing

1572
01:32:38.680 --> 01:32:40.319
<v Speaker 5>else will make sense to you about the rest of

1573
01:32:40.319 --> 01:32:43.680
<v Speaker 5>the book unless you understand this first. And it's like

1574
01:32:44.119 --> 01:32:49.359
<v Speaker 5>our government is and other governments are run by pedophiles

1575
01:32:50.000 --> 01:32:55.520
<v Speaker 5>and serial killers, and it goes back a long time.

1576
01:32:56.119 --> 01:32:59.680
<v Speaker 10>Benjamin Franklin had little kids buried in his yard. I

1577
01:32:59.720 --> 01:33:03.479
<v Speaker 10>mean they just excavated his house and found stuff like that.

1578
01:33:03.840 --> 01:33:07.239
<v Speaker 10>He was in the hell Fire Club. So it seems

1579
01:33:07.279 --> 01:33:09.279
<v Speaker 10>like this has been the way for a long time too.

1580
01:33:10.680 --> 01:33:11.520
<v Speaker 5>Oh for sure.

1581
01:33:15.039 --> 01:33:16.760
<v Speaker 2>Is there anythink anybody else wanted to bring.

1582
01:33:16.680 --> 01:33:22.039
<v Speaker 7>Up well about the serial killer tip? It's so interesting.

1583
01:33:22.640 --> 01:33:24.520
<v Speaker 7>He points out in the book that all of these

1584
01:33:24.560 --> 01:33:27.479
<v Speaker 7>serial killers are connected to high level politicians.

1585
01:33:27.560 --> 01:33:28.079
<v Speaker 3>You've got.

1586
01:33:29.880 --> 01:33:31.439
<v Speaker 7>Oh man, I'm blanking on his name. They got you

1587
01:33:31.560 --> 01:33:32.560
<v Speaker 7>dressed up like a clown.

1588
01:33:33.239 --> 01:33:35.000
<v Speaker 5>John Wayne Gacy, Yeah.

1589
01:33:34.920 --> 01:33:39.079
<v Speaker 7>John Wayne Gacy taking pictures with Carter's wife at the

1590
01:33:39.159 --> 01:33:42.399
<v Speaker 7>White House, and nobody seems to ask any questions about that.

1591
01:33:44.359 --> 01:33:44.520
<v Speaker 9>Yeah.

1592
01:33:44.600 --> 01:33:49.600
<v Speaker 5>Ted Bundy was real high up into politics. Jeffrey Dahmer Military.

1593
01:33:50.600 --> 01:33:53.159
<v Speaker 5>A lot of these serial killers are military, the ones

1594
01:33:53.239 --> 01:33:57.439
<v Speaker 5>that like to collect bodies and like fucking necrofile them

1595
01:33:57.520 --> 01:33:59.920
<v Speaker 5>and split them up into pieces and shit. They're usually

1596
01:34:00.119 --> 01:34:06.399
<v Speaker 5>turned out to be military. And one question that I

1597
01:34:06.479 --> 01:34:08.840
<v Speaker 5>did want to ask you guys before we kind of

1598
01:34:08.920 --> 01:34:14.079
<v Speaker 5>sum everything up was I recently spoke with a guest

1599
01:34:14.159 --> 01:34:16.800
<v Speaker 5>and he asked me this question, and it's been lingering

1600
01:34:16.920 --> 01:34:19.560
<v Speaker 5>with me, but he said, what do you think about

1601
01:34:19.600 --> 01:34:24.000
<v Speaker 5>the possibility that a lot of these high level politicians

1602
01:34:24.359 --> 01:34:32.119
<v Speaker 5>or actresses, musicians, whatever, serial killers, they're all just characters, right.

1603
01:34:32.760 --> 01:34:35.840
<v Speaker 5>They play this character of Ted Bundy, the mass murderer

1604
01:34:35.920 --> 01:34:39.520
<v Speaker 5>that killed all these girls, and the real person who's

1605
01:34:39.560 --> 01:34:42.640
<v Speaker 5>playing Ted Bundy, his name might not even be Ted Bundy,

1606
01:34:43.319 --> 01:34:48.439
<v Speaker 5>but he's just playing the role of the serial killer.

1607
01:34:48.960 --> 01:34:51.840
<v Speaker 5>And a lot of these victims could be fake and staged.

1608
01:34:52.560 --> 01:34:55.600
<v Speaker 5>Some of them could be real murders, but it's all

1609
01:34:55.840 --> 01:34:57.479
<v Speaker 5>just like a big show because at the end of

1610
01:34:57.520 --> 01:35:03.039
<v Speaker 5>the day, you can't convict Ted Bundy of murder because

1611
01:35:03.119 --> 01:35:08.560
<v Speaker 5>Ted Bundy doesn't exist. That's a character, right, So the

1612
01:35:08.680 --> 01:35:12.960
<v Speaker 5>person who is committing all these crimes doesn't exist. And

1613
01:35:13.079 --> 01:35:15.720
<v Speaker 5>so the same thing with the pedophile stuff. It's like,

1614
01:35:15.800 --> 01:35:18.399
<v Speaker 5>if they're just a character playing a role, then they

1615
01:35:18.439 --> 01:35:21.399
<v Speaker 5>can do any crime any way they want to do it,

1616
01:35:21.840 --> 01:35:24.720
<v Speaker 5>pedophile as many kids as they want, because they're just

1617
01:35:24.840 --> 01:35:30.199
<v Speaker 5>a character and they don't exist. It's an interesting thought.

1618
01:35:32.000 --> 01:35:33.720
<v Speaker 7>I agree. I think that can be part of it.

1619
01:35:33.920 --> 01:35:38.000
<v Speaker 7>I think one of the benefits of the serial killer

1620
01:35:38.079 --> 01:35:42.600
<v Speaker 7>phenomenon is that you can kill somebody who's really your target,

1621
01:35:43.319 --> 01:35:45.319
<v Speaker 7>and they'll just get swept under the rug of this

1622
01:35:45.560 --> 01:35:47.840
<v Speaker 7>was just a random act by a serial killer who's

1623
01:35:47.880 --> 01:35:51.239
<v Speaker 7>going around, you know, terrorizing the place, so you can

1624
01:35:51.520 --> 01:35:54.600
<v Speaker 7>sneak a bunch of real targets for an establishment that

1625
01:35:54.840 --> 01:35:57.920
<v Speaker 7>wants to get rid of these people into the deck

1626
01:35:58.000 --> 01:36:01.479
<v Speaker 7>of all these random killings them. It's the difference.

1627
01:36:02.479 --> 01:36:05.680
<v Speaker 5>Yeah, I mean, they're literally like employees. They're like characters

1628
01:36:05.960 --> 01:36:09.800
<v Speaker 5>in the CIA, and they get all these bitch and monikers, right,

1629
01:36:09.880 --> 01:36:14.720
<v Speaker 5>the Green River Killer, the fuck BTK, buying torture kill like,

1630
01:36:14.800 --> 01:36:18.560
<v Speaker 5>they get some kind of zodiac and so they're they're

1631
01:36:18.680 --> 01:36:24.119
<v Speaker 5>like characters. They're literally created and they're employed by the CIA,

1632
01:36:24.520 --> 01:36:29.279
<v Speaker 5>and they're they don't the people behind these serial killers,

1633
01:36:30.720 --> 01:36:34.399
<v Speaker 5>like it's just a guy playing a part. Their part

1634
01:36:34.520 --> 01:36:38.920
<v Speaker 5>is the serial killer. They're supposed to murder these bitches because.

1635
01:36:38.840 --> 01:36:40.600
<v Speaker 2>You know what I mean, I think they do that

1636
01:36:40.680 --> 01:36:41.239
<v Speaker 2>with other people.

1637
01:36:43.000 --> 01:36:46.640
<v Speaker 5>Politicians for sure. I mean, how many how many Joe

1638
01:36:46.680 --> 01:36:49.319
<v Speaker 5>Biden's have we seen. There's a tall one, a short one,

1639
01:36:49.640 --> 01:36:53.319
<v Speaker 5>one that has detached ear lobes, one that doesn't Okay,

1640
01:36:53.880 --> 01:36:58.079
<v Speaker 5>I mean like there's multiple characters playing the same role.

1641
01:36:58.880 --> 01:37:03.319
<v Speaker 5>Or like multiple people playing the same character. So I

1642
01:37:03.399 --> 01:37:06.479
<v Speaker 5>think that it's true with celebrities. I think they swap

1643
01:37:06.680 --> 01:37:10.960
<v Speaker 5>bitches out. I think, you know, goes across the board.

1644
01:37:12.520 --> 01:37:15.760
<v Speaker 6>So maybe we're all suffering from Alice in Wonderland syndrome.

1645
01:37:16.640 --> 01:37:21.159
<v Speaker 5>Maybe I wouldn't put it fast.

1646
01:37:22.680 --> 01:37:25.399
<v Speaker 11>Do you think that maybe could be a way of

1647
01:37:26.039 --> 01:37:27.560
<v Speaker 11>disguising contract killing.

1648
01:37:28.880 --> 01:37:32.279
<v Speaker 5>It definitely would be helpful, you know what I mean.

1649
01:37:32.840 --> 01:37:34.800
<v Speaker 11>Like if you kill a whole and then throw in

1650
01:37:34.960 --> 01:37:38.920
<v Speaker 11>one that you really needed killed plain but you only

1651
01:37:39.000 --> 01:37:39.479
<v Speaker 11>wanted one.

1652
01:37:40.399 --> 01:37:45.079
<v Speaker 5>Yeah, it definitely. It definitely helps with the confusion because

1653
01:37:45.279 --> 01:37:47.359
<v Speaker 5>a lot of people, and this goes back to something

1654
01:37:47.439 --> 01:37:50.479
<v Speaker 5>we spoke about earlier in the episode, a lot of

1655
01:37:50.520 --> 01:37:54.640
<v Speaker 5>people have done some interesting research that the Zodiac killer

1656
01:37:54.960 --> 01:38:02.279
<v Speaker 5>was Michael Achino, and there's all these military boot prints

1657
01:38:02.399 --> 01:38:07.199
<v Speaker 5>found on all the Zodiac victims crime scenes, and they

1658
01:38:07.319 --> 01:38:11.399
<v Speaker 5>describe him as being clean cut, crew cut, military style,

1659
01:38:12.239 --> 01:38:15.960
<v Speaker 5>this and that. And one of the victims was killed

1660
01:38:16.119 --> 01:38:20.720
<v Speaker 5>very close to the Presidio area, the cab driver. There

1661
01:38:20.840 --> 01:38:23.319
<v Speaker 5>was some kids that called into the police and gave

1662
01:38:23.359 --> 01:38:26.680
<v Speaker 5>a description of the assailant, and instead of giving the

1663
01:38:26.760 --> 01:38:30.079
<v Speaker 5>truthful description, they said, there's a freaking black guy running

1664
01:38:30.079 --> 01:38:32.039
<v Speaker 5>around with a gun. Somebody come and get him. He

1665
01:38:32.199 --> 01:38:34.720
<v Speaker 5>just shot a cab driver. They didn't even give the

1666
01:38:34.760 --> 01:38:39.560
<v Speaker 5>actual description that the kids had provided to the police.

1667
01:38:39.920 --> 01:38:42.600
<v Speaker 5>So they were at a wild goose chase chasing a

1668
01:38:42.640 --> 01:38:46.039
<v Speaker 5>black guy that didn't exist, while Michael Lakino's probably getting

1669
01:38:46.079 --> 01:38:49.640
<v Speaker 5>off fucking you know, out of sight.

1670
01:38:52.000 --> 01:38:55.039
<v Speaker 11>Well, i'll plug one of your first episodes with PTK.

1671
01:38:55.720 --> 01:39:02.199
<v Speaker 11>You mentioned Hinckley and how he supposedly confessed to what

1672
01:39:02.520 --> 01:39:05.600
<v Speaker 11>three to six hundred murders or something like that, but

1673
01:39:06.039 --> 01:39:09.680
<v Speaker 11>that in reality and then he got off right, Bush

1674
01:39:09.760 --> 01:39:14.640
<v Speaker 11>pardoned him, But in reality there was no real evidence

1675
01:39:14.920 --> 01:39:17.159
<v Speaker 11>pointing to his death. And they think that maybe he

1676
01:39:17.760 --> 01:39:21.239
<v Speaker 11>was confessing and he was giving actual evidence and it

1677
01:39:21.560 --> 01:39:25.399
<v Speaker 11>allowed for them to close cases, but that maybe perhaps

1678
01:39:25.520 --> 01:39:30.640
<v Speaker 11>he was being fed the information on these crimes and

1679
01:39:31.039 --> 01:39:32.239
<v Speaker 11>he was just going to sit down.

1680
01:39:32.159 --> 01:39:32.600
<v Speaker 6>For a while.

1681
01:39:33.600 --> 01:39:33.760
<v Speaker 5>You know.

1682
01:39:34.439 --> 01:39:38.359
<v Speaker 11>So serial killers themselves may not, be, like you said,

1683
01:39:38.720 --> 01:39:42.520
<v Speaker 11>the actual person doing it, but just a character that

1684
01:39:42.720 --> 01:39:46.279
<v Speaker 11>is playing the part in it to allow for everything

1685
01:39:46.319 --> 01:39:49.039
<v Speaker 11>else to be swept under the rug, and no one

1686
01:39:49.199 --> 01:39:49.760
<v Speaker 11>is the wiser.

1687
01:39:50.720 --> 01:39:53.359
<v Speaker 5>Well, Lisa, did you see something on Netflix called The

1688
01:39:53.479 --> 01:39:54.439
<v Speaker 5>Confession Killer?

1689
01:39:54.960 --> 01:39:55.720
<v Speaker 11>I have not yet.

1690
01:39:56.600 --> 01:39:59.560
<v Speaker 5>Okay, well, it's about It's just like what you were

1691
01:39:59.560 --> 01:40:02.119
<v Speaker 5>saying is about Henry Lee Lucas. They called him the

1692
01:40:02.199 --> 01:40:09.880
<v Speaker 5>confession killer. Okay, yeah, I was gonna say Henry Lee, like,

1693
01:40:10.039 --> 01:40:15.079
<v Speaker 5>this guy's a fucking enigma. This guy they could say,

1694
01:40:15.199 --> 01:40:18.720
<v Speaker 5>we'll give you a happy meal box in two strawberry

1695
01:40:18.800 --> 01:40:21.960
<v Speaker 5>milkshakes if you say you did these five crimes, and

1696
01:40:22.079 --> 01:40:25.680
<v Speaker 5>he'd be like, okay, he And it was like Lisa

1697
01:40:25.800 --> 01:40:29.840
<v Speaker 5>was saying, he admitted confessed to a number of murders

1698
01:40:29.880 --> 01:40:32.600
<v Speaker 5>that he probably wasn't even in town, in the state,

1699
01:40:32.760 --> 01:40:35.720
<v Speaker 5>in the fucking country when they happened, but he would

1700
01:40:35.760 --> 01:40:37.600
<v Speaker 5>admit to it as long they'd be like, hey, we'll

1701
01:40:37.600 --> 01:40:41.399
<v Speaker 5>get you some cigarettes, We'll get you a fucking biscuits

1702
01:40:41.479 --> 01:40:43.640
<v Speaker 5>and gravy. What do you want and they bring it

1703
01:40:43.720 --> 01:40:46.760
<v Speaker 5>into him and then he would just start confessing shit and.

1704
01:40:47.439 --> 01:40:52.279
<v Speaker 11>So stuff like legit evidence. How would know if he

1705
01:40:52.399 --> 01:40:53.079
<v Speaker 11>wasn't part of it?

1706
01:40:54.159 --> 01:40:57.680
<v Speaker 5>Right? And he did say Henry Lee Lucas did say

1707
01:40:58.520 --> 01:41:06.399
<v Speaker 5>that he was trained by a military group that was

1708
01:41:06.479 --> 01:41:10.760
<v Speaker 5>involved with the death Hand of death is what he

1709
01:41:10.880 --> 01:41:14.960
<v Speaker 5>called it, and they were training serial killers essentially. That's

1710
01:41:15.000 --> 01:41:19.319
<v Speaker 5>what Henry Lee Lucas said. I mean, it's fucking wild,

1711
01:41:20.359 --> 01:41:24.680
<v Speaker 5>and I mean it. I really do think that a

1712
01:41:24.760 --> 01:41:27.399
<v Speaker 5>lot of these guys are just playing the role of

1713
01:41:27.479 --> 01:41:31.199
<v Speaker 5>the serial killer and there's somebody else that's doing a

1714
01:41:31.279 --> 01:41:34.039
<v Speaker 5>lot of these murderous things, and then it's just getting

1715
01:41:34.079 --> 01:41:36.720
<v Speaker 5>blamed on one person. When we get into it a

1716
01:41:36.760 --> 01:41:38.840
<v Speaker 5>little bit further, I want to talk about it more

1717
01:41:38.920 --> 01:41:43.079
<v Speaker 5>depth in like a future episode. But some of these crimes,

1718
01:41:43.159 --> 01:41:49.039
<v Speaker 5>you guys, like with gaycy Even and Bundy, like it's

1719
01:41:49.119 --> 01:41:51.520
<v Speaker 5>not even possible for them to have gotten from one

1720
01:41:51.600 --> 01:41:54.159
<v Speaker 5>crime scene to the other in the allotted amount of

1721
01:41:54.239 --> 01:41:57.079
<v Speaker 5>time that they say it happened. It's like Ted Bundy

1722
01:41:57.119 --> 01:42:00.199
<v Speaker 5>abducted this girl and this girl they live so teven

1723
01:42:00.239 --> 01:42:02.680
<v Speaker 5>thousand miles apart, but he got there in fifteen minutes

1724
01:42:02.800 --> 01:42:05.760
<v Speaker 5>and he killed both of them and they're both Bundy victims,

1725
01:42:06.119 --> 01:42:09.159
<v Speaker 5>and it's like, what the fuck? Slow down, Like this

1726
01:42:09.159 --> 01:42:15.479
<v Speaker 5>is this not making sense? So these these serial killers, politicians, celebrities, whatever,

1727
01:42:17.199 --> 01:42:22.640
<v Speaker 5>they're usually characters playing a role, and they happen to

1728
01:42:22.680 --> 01:42:29.159
<v Speaker 5>be murderous, psychopathic pedophiles most of the time. But I

1729
01:42:29.199 --> 01:42:30.600
<v Speaker 5>don't know what you guys think about it.

1730
01:42:30.920 --> 01:42:33.119
<v Speaker 2>I think so well, it goes sure. I think, yeah,

1731
01:42:33.199 --> 01:42:34.960
<v Speaker 2>for sure, some stuff goes on like that.

1732
01:42:36.479 --> 01:42:39.840
<v Speaker 7>I think it goes to the multiple faceted aspect of

1733
01:42:39.960 --> 01:42:42.319
<v Speaker 7>these serial killers. So you've got these police who are

1734
01:42:42.359 --> 01:42:45.439
<v Speaker 7>looking to close as many cases as possible to make

1735
01:42:45.479 --> 01:42:49.520
<v Speaker 7>themselves look good, and try and take all this evidence

1736
01:42:49.600 --> 01:42:52.399
<v Speaker 7>and plant it on one guy so that well, now

1737
01:42:52.479 --> 01:42:56.039
<v Speaker 7>our closure rate is back up to what like seventy

1738
01:42:56.079 --> 01:42:59.479
<v Speaker 7>percent or whatever they what they claim. I know, like

1739
01:43:00.359 --> 01:43:03.000
<v Speaker 7>a third of the murderers that happen in the country

1740
01:43:03.119 --> 01:43:06.359
<v Speaker 7>go unsolved, So they have to have a serial killer

1741
01:43:06.479 --> 01:43:08.840
<v Speaker 7>to sort of base all of their stuff on because

1742
01:43:09.279 --> 01:43:12.439
<v Speaker 7>it makes them seem more competent than they are. And

1743
01:43:12.600 --> 01:43:15.119
<v Speaker 7>then you know, at the same time, you've got the fear,

1744
01:43:15.640 --> 01:43:19.159
<v Speaker 7>and the fear is what produces this response of people

1745
01:43:19.239 --> 01:43:21.399
<v Speaker 7>that gets them to look to the government as being

1746
01:43:21.439 --> 01:43:24.800
<v Speaker 7>the answers, because you know, we're all a bunch of toddlers, basically,

1747
01:43:24.960 --> 01:43:28.000
<v Speaker 7>we can't do anything for ourselves, right.

1748
01:43:28.680 --> 01:43:32.920
<v Speaker 5>And I do think there are some grassroots just psychopathic

1749
01:43:33.399 --> 01:43:38.119
<v Speaker 5>murdering people out there. You know, I've watched true crime

1750
01:43:38.600 --> 01:43:40.800
<v Speaker 5>shows since I was like ten years old. I get it.

1751
01:43:41.119 --> 01:43:45.079
<v Speaker 5>There are actual psychopaths that actually fucking murder their pregnant

1752
01:43:45.119 --> 01:43:49.159
<v Speaker 5>wives and shit like Scott Peterson, And there's actually fucking

1753
01:43:49.199 --> 01:43:51.880
<v Speaker 5>pieces of shit out there that are murdering. But these

1754
01:43:52.000 --> 01:43:56.640
<v Speaker 5>ones that get turned into superstars and get Netflix shows

1755
01:43:56.760 --> 01:44:02.640
<v Speaker 5>based on them, gaycy Dom or Bundy, zach Efron playing Bundy.

1756
01:44:02.920 --> 01:44:06.479
<v Speaker 5>Are you serious? They got the kid from from American

1757
01:44:06.520 --> 01:44:09.640
<v Speaker 5>Horror Story playing Dahmer. They're making celebs out of them

1758
01:44:10.079 --> 01:44:13.479
<v Speaker 5>because they're homegrown. They're proud of what they've done, and

1759
01:44:13.920 --> 01:44:16.039
<v Speaker 5>they're proud of the fact that they're getting one over

1760
01:44:16.159 --> 01:44:23.119
<v Speaker 5>on everyone. And you know, I just think it's so interconnected,

1761
01:44:24.039 --> 01:44:26.520
<v Speaker 5>and at the root of all of this is usually

1762
01:44:26.680 --> 01:44:31.239
<v Speaker 5>Satanism and doing stuff to kids. I mean, like that's

1763
01:44:31.359 --> 01:44:33.680
<v Speaker 5>the sad truth of it. Even these a lot of

1764
01:44:33.760 --> 01:44:39.319
<v Speaker 5>these Gacy victims and shit, it's like, I mean, he

1765
01:44:39.520 --> 01:44:41.199
<v Speaker 5>wasn't even in town for a couple of them, So

1766
01:44:41.279 --> 01:44:43.560
<v Speaker 5>it's like, why why do they always they're always needing

1767
01:44:43.840 --> 01:44:49.359
<v Speaker 5>young men and children and doing weird stuff with them,

1768
01:44:49.560 --> 01:44:52.239
<v Speaker 5>Like it just I don't know.

1769
01:44:53.279 --> 01:44:55.199
<v Speaker 11>One more thing I wanted to insert because it just

1770
01:44:55.279 --> 01:44:59.000
<v Speaker 11>occurred to me what you just said. So these profiling

1771
01:44:59.199 --> 01:45:01.600
<v Speaker 11>of these serial killers that gave them their names, that

1772
01:45:01.680 --> 01:45:05.000
<v Speaker 11>gave them their fame, so to speak, is the behavioral

1773
01:45:05.039 --> 01:45:07.720
<v Speaker 11>science the what is it, the behavioral forensic science unit

1774
01:45:07.840 --> 01:45:11.359
<v Speaker 11>of the FBI. M Ready, those people are already you know,

1775
01:45:11.560 --> 01:45:17.880
<v Speaker 11>questionable in of them themselves. I think the Netflix documentary

1776
01:45:17.960 --> 01:45:19.439
<v Speaker 11>or the series or whatever, I thought it was great.

1777
01:45:19.439 --> 01:45:21.600
<v Speaker 11>I thought it was great acting, whatever. But yes, it

1778
01:45:21.840 --> 01:45:24.640
<v Speaker 11>is a promo for the FBI. For sure. I wanted

1779
01:45:24.680 --> 01:45:26.359
<v Speaker 11>to sign up. Let's just put it that way. It

1780
01:45:26.479 --> 01:45:29.880
<v Speaker 11>was that well done. But now we see how the

1781
01:45:30.079 --> 01:45:35.680
<v Speaker 11>FBI knows every single school shooter or mass shooter, and

1782
01:45:35.800 --> 01:45:38.159
<v Speaker 11>they were always on their radar list. What's not to

1783
01:45:38.279 --> 01:45:40.880
<v Speaker 11>say that they didn't know about these people before they

1784
01:45:40.920 --> 01:45:43.560
<v Speaker 11>were serial killing? Like it's just a trend. It's like

1785
01:45:43.880 --> 01:45:46.359
<v Speaker 11>we've now moved on from the serial killing and we

1786
01:45:46.439 --> 01:45:52.680
<v Speaker 11>are now embracing the mass shooter you know era of

1787
01:45:52.760 --> 01:45:54.520
<v Speaker 11>the FBI, or at least.

1788
01:45:56.000 --> 01:45:58.760
<v Speaker 5>Right because it feels like just when one thing is ending,

1789
01:45:59.399 --> 01:46:04.840
<v Speaker 5>something else pops back up. So, for example, when the

1790
01:46:05.039 --> 01:46:09.239
<v Speaker 5>Zodiac murders had quieted down and people were getting back

1791
01:46:09.279 --> 01:46:12.800
<v Speaker 5>to normal, Ted Bundy got on a plane, flew to

1792
01:46:12.880 --> 01:46:18.039
<v Speaker 5>San Francisco, where the Zodiac murders were occurring, did something

1793
01:46:18.239 --> 01:46:21.680
<v Speaker 5>unknown there, flew back to Seattle, and then became Ted

1794
01:46:21.760 --> 01:46:24.439
<v Speaker 5>Bundy and started fucking murdering bitches all up and down

1795
01:46:24.520 --> 01:46:28.800
<v Speaker 5>the coast. So Zodiac ended, Ted Bundy started. There's a

1796
01:46:28.840 --> 01:46:31.760
<v Speaker 5>lot of fucking shit I'll talk about in upcoming episodes

1797
01:46:31.800 --> 01:46:35.439
<v Speaker 5>that's really fucking suspect about him even being a murderous killer.

1798
01:46:36.640 --> 01:46:42.399
<v Speaker 5>And you know, it's like it's really easy for them

1799
01:46:42.680 --> 01:46:47.720
<v Speaker 5>to get us, through social media and Netflix documentaries and

1800
01:46:47.880 --> 01:46:52.399
<v Speaker 5>true crime shows, to accept a specific narrative and just say, yep,

1801
01:46:52.560 --> 01:46:57.000
<v Speaker 5>that's the bad guy. We got him, he died, fucked him,

1802
01:46:57.680 --> 01:47:00.359
<v Speaker 5>and just be done with it, because nobody wants to

1803
01:47:00.439 --> 01:47:04.239
<v Speaker 5>think the bad guy got away. Nobody wants to think, like, oh,

1804
01:47:04.680 --> 01:47:07.840
<v Speaker 5>the actual serial killers who were murdering all those bitches

1805
01:47:07.960 --> 01:47:10.399
<v Speaker 5>is still out there. I don't want to think that.

1806
01:47:11.399 --> 01:47:13.760
<v Speaker 5>So they're happy to pin all this shit on one

1807
01:47:13.960 --> 01:47:15.840
<v Speaker 5>character just to be done.

1808
01:47:15.640 --> 01:47:19.119
<v Speaker 7>With it, right, And you can see where it messes

1809
01:47:19.239 --> 01:47:23.479
<v Speaker 7>up to like the Gilgo Beach murderers. Like clearly you

1810
01:47:23.600 --> 01:47:27.920
<v Speaker 7>could really you know, capitalize off of the serial killer

1811
01:47:28.279 --> 01:47:31.279
<v Speaker 7>who's dumping all these bodies in the beach. But then

1812
01:47:31.319 --> 01:47:34.319
<v Speaker 7>once they realized, oh, this points directly back to the police,

1813
01:47:34.840 --> 01:47:36.920
<v Speaker 7>they had to kind of scale it back and make

1814
01:47:37.000 --> 01:47:40.920
<v Speaker 7>everybody forget so you can see these patterns of you know,

1815
01:47:41.199 --> 01:47:44.119
<v Speaker 7>how they try to make these narratives, then the narrative

1816
01:47:44.159 --> 01:47:46.720
<v Speaker 7>falls apart, and then everybody forgets about it, you know,

1817
01:47:47.479 --> 01:47:47.840
<v Speaker 7>mm hm.

1818
01:47:48.479 --> 01:47:52.800
<v Speaker 5>And you know, the whole introduction of the serial killer

1819
01:47:53.439 --> 01:47:57.439
<v Speaker 5>went down in the nineteen sixties, in my opinion, the

1820
01:47:57.520 --> 01:48:01.079
<v Speaker 5>same time they started the counterculture movement, the same time

1821
01:48:01.199 --> 01:48:03.680
<v Speaker 5>they started up all this Laurel Canyon shit with the

1822
01:48:03.960 --> 01:48:08.760
<v Speaker 5>fucking you know, military kids becoming star musicians, and it's like,

1823
01:48:08.840 --> 01:48:11.920
<v Speaker 5>what a fucking time to be alive, Like in the

1824
01:48:11.960 --> 01:48:15.439
<v Speaker 5>middle of the sixties when you're getting introduced to counterculture.

1825
01:48:15.600 --> 01:48:19.560
<v Speaker 5>Jim Morrison, fucking uh, if you can't love the one

1826
01:48:19.640 --> 01:48:22.800
<v Speaker 5>you want, love the one you're with, don't take birth control,

1827
01:48:23.039 --> 01:48:26.960
<v Speaker 5>fucking grow your fucking armpit, hair out, and serial killers.

1828
01:48:27.159 --> 01:48:30.960
<v Speaker 5>I mean, they're in one breath telling women to become

1829
01:48:31.079 --> 01:48:34.039
<v Speaker 5>liberated and do stuff on their own and like break

1830
01:48:34.159 --> 01:48:36.439
<v Speaker 5>free and do all this, and at the same time

1831
01:48:36.479 --> 01:48:38.680
<v Speaker 5>they got a guy murdering all the women who are

1832
01:48:38.760 --> 01:48:41.640
<v Speaker 5>doing those things by design.

1833
01:48:44.720 --> 01:48:46.640
<v Speaker 7>I think it's so important to look at the Manson

1834
01:48:46.720 --> 01:48:51.880
<v Speaker 7>family as being the sort of prototype of the serial

1835
01:48:51.960 --> 01:48:54.279
<v Speaker 7>killer model that they used over and over again, because

1836
01:48:54.279 --> 01:48:56.880
<v Speaker 7>you've got this guy who supposedly had a lot of charisma,

1837
01:48:57.640 --> 01:49:01.039
<v Speaker 7>who was clearly on the FBI or CIA radar. He

1838
01:49:01.159 --> 01:49:04.199
<v Speaker 7>was working with a lot of these guys. I mean

1839
01:49:04.279 --> 01:49:06.960
<v Speaker 7>that's something that Dave McGowan goes into detail and the

1840
01:49:07.079 --> 01:49:09.720
<v Speaker 7>weird scenes of the canyon, and he's just connected to

1841
01:49:09.920 --> 01:49:14.279
<v Speaker 7>so many different people inside of the scene that it

1842
01:49:14.800 --> 01:49:17.880
<v Speaker 7>once you put the pieces together, you can't unsee it.

1843
01:49:18.079 --> 01:49:22.439
<v Speaker 7>And you know, meanwhile, Charles Manson never killed anybody, you know, right,

1844
01:49:23.199 --> 01:49:26.720
<v Speaker 7>is the serial killer like model poster boy, And it's

1845
01:49:26.760 --> 01:49:29.760
<v Speaker 7>almost like that actor thing, like he played the perfect

1846
01:49:29.920 --> 01:49:32.960
<v Speaker 7>role for them to use as a springboard into all

1847
01:49:33.039 --> 01:49:33.920
<v Speaker 7>these other areas.

1848
01:49:34.920 --> 01:49:38.319
<v Speaker 5>Yeah, I think Charles Manson is a character that he's playing.

1849
01:49:38.840 --> 01:49:42.159
<v Speaker 5>I mean, he was m k Oltred, he was you

1850
01:49:42.279 --> 01:49:43.800
<v Speaker 5>know he Oh my god.

1851
01:49:44.359 --> 01:49:44.720
<v Speaker 6>And like.

1852
01:49:46.279 --> 01:49:49.000
<v Speaker 5>The new series that I'm working on called Blood Ties,

1853
01:49:49.079 --> 01:49:51.039
<v Speaker 5>I go into it in a little bit more detail

1854
01:49:51.159 --> 01:49:57.479
<v Speaker 5>about Charles Manson. But I mean, I'm starting to think,

1855
01:49:57.600 --> 01:50:03.359
<v Speaker 5>in my personal fucking opinion, that Roman Polanski was probably

1856
01:50:03.479 --> 01:50:06.119
<v Speaker 5>pulling the strings behind that whole shit. And he got

1857
01:50:06.159 --> 01:50:08.079
<v Speaker 5>out of town so it couldn't look like him. Oh

1858
01:50:08.159 --> 01:50:10.720
<v Speaker 5>I'm out of town. Shooting a movie while my pregnant

1859
01:50:10.720 --> 01:50:12.800
<v Speaker 5>wife and all of our friends are getting massacred at

1860
01:50:12.840 --> 01:50:14.760
<v Speaker 5>the house just so happened to be out of town.

1861
01:50:15.399 --> 01:50:20.960
<v Speaker 5>And like Rosemary's Baby shit there is. They found footage

1862
01:50:21.119 --> 01:50:23.439
<v Speaker 5>of Roman inviting people over to the house to run

1863
01:50:23.560 --> 01:50:28.279
<v Speaker 5>train on Sharon. They were filming like weird you know,

1864
01:50:28.560 --> 01:50:31.640
<v Speaker 5>pornographic shit at their house. They were doing wife swapping

1865
01:50:31.800 --> 01:50:35.760
<v Speaker 5>and like weird rituals and shit at their house. And

1866
01:50:35.960 --> 01:50:39.680
<v Speaker 5>so again, I think Charles Manson is a character that's

1867
01:50:39.840 --> 01:50:42.920
<v Speaker 5>taking credit for a bunch of shit that people just

1868
01:50:43.039 --> 01:50:44.319
<v Speaker 5>wanted swept under the rug.

1869
01:50:45.159 --> 01:50:49.560
<v Speaker 7>Directors. It's all about directing, and I think that's that's

1870
01:50:49.600 --> 01:50:51.439
<v Speaker 7>where the crossover is because you see a lot of

1871
01:50:51.520 --> 01:50:57.800
<v Speaker 7>it now. During the uh, the impeachment trial of Donald Trump,

1872
01:50:58.159 --> 01:51:03.159
<v Speaker 7>they brought in Hollywood direct to film this squad or

1873
01:51:03.319 --> 01:51:08.279
<v Speaker 7>whatever they call themselves, the Special Prosecutors of J six,

1874
01:51:08.680 --> 01:51:11.800
<v Speaker 7>you know, And so they had to have this this

1875
01:51:12.039 --> 01:51:15.520
<v Speaker 7>director come in and fit everything into the perfect little

1876
01:51:15.600 --> 01:51:17.920
<v Speaker 7>package for all the normies to eat.

1877
01:51:17.840 --> 01:51:22.319
<v Speaker 5>Up, you know, mm hmmmm mm one hundred. I mean,

1878
01:51:22.359 --> 01:51:24.560
<v Speaker 5>I hope this gets people to want and to read

1879
01:51:24.600 --> 01:51:27.479
<v Speaker 5>this book, because, like I said, there's so much in

1880
01:51:27.600 --> 01:51:30.840
<v Speaker 5>it that if I sat here until fucking two in

1881
01:51:30.920 --> 01:51:32.960
<v Speaker 5>the morning, we couldn't even get through the first couple

1882
01:51:33.039 --> 01:51:35.439
<v Speaker 5>of chapters. But I mean, I feel like this is

1883
01:51:35.479 --> 01:51:38.840
<v Speaker 5>a good taste test for the beginning of the book.

1884
01:51:40.000 --> 01:51:43.560
<v Speaker 2>Thank you. Yeah, that was great. Did anybody want to

1885
01:51:43.560 --> 01:51:44.039
<v Speaker 2>add anything?

1886
01:51:46.399 --> 01:51:46.600
<v Speaker 3>Sure?

1887
01:51:46.640 --> 01:51:48.920
<v Speaker 8>I think one thing that's not necessarily in The Program

1888
01:51:49.000 --> 01:51:50.840
<v Speaker 8>to Kill a book that's come to light since McGowan

1889
01:51:50.880 --> 01:51:53.319
<v Speaker 8>wrote the book, but kind of fits right in line

1890
01:51:53.319 --> 01:51:55.840
<v Speaker 8>with what we're talking about here with the Satanism the

1891
01:51:55.880 --> 01:51:58.000
<v Speaker 8>Program to Kill, you know, the.

1892
01:51:58.800 --> 01:51:59.439
<v Speaker 3>The Hand of Death.

1893
01:51:59.479 --> 01:52:03.159
<v Speaker 8>Bolt is a fellow by the name of Edward Wyn Edwards.

1894
01:52:04.079 --> 01:52:06.439
<v Speaker 8>He was formerly the in fact that the Zodiac Killer.

1895
01:52:06.479 --> 01:52:08.880
<v Speaker 8>He fits into that that conversation as well. So I

1896
01:52:08.920 --> 01:52:10.840
<v Speaker 8>think a lot of these are all Satanic cult murders.

1897
01:52:10.880 --> 01:52:14.359
<v Speaker 8>Manson family included. Polanski was actually in Rome with the

1898
01:52:14.399 --> 01:52:17.399
<v Speaker 8>Processed Church when his wife was getting murdered, and they

1899
01:52:17.399 --> 01:52:19.760
<v Speaker 8>had all sorts of Processed Church connections along with Manson

1900
01:52:19.800 --> 01:52:22.119
<v Speaker 8>there too. So I think a lot of these Satanic

1901
01:52:22.159 --> 01:52:25.199
<v Speaker 8>cults largely wrapped up within this process umbrella, you know,

1902
01:52:25.319 --> 01:52:28.800
<v Speaker 8>function around all these murders. Edward went Edwards though, so

1903
01:52:28.920 --> 01:52:31.880
<v Speaker 8>the Zodiac Killer was one of the surviving one of

1904
01:52:31.920 --> 01:52:35.000
<v Speaker 8>the surviving males in the one of his attacks. You know,

1905
01:52:35.039 --> 01:52:37.399
<v Speaker 8>I think I think it was actually a team of killers,

1906
01:52:38.319 --> 01:52:40.279
<v Speaker 8>part of a satanic cult. They're operating in around the

1907
01:52:40.279 --> 01:52:44.640
<v Speaker 8>presidio where Michael Aikino was. But Edward Wyn Edwards, the

1908
01:52:44.720 --> 01:52:47.600
<v Speaker 8>guy in the hood at Lake Briessa. All the details

1909
01:52:47.680 --> 01:52:50.279
<v Speaker 8>that killer gave to the victims. The male surviving victim

1910
01:52:50.279 --> 01:52:52.600
<v Speaker 8>who was an attorney, has been an attorney ever since then.

1911
01:52:52.640 --> 01:52:55.199
<v Speaker 3>He was in law school. All the details given to

1912
01:52:55.319 --> 01:52:57.800
<v Speaker 3>that guy are all details of Edward Winn. Edward's life.

1913
01:52:58.239 --> 01:53:00.520
<v Speaker 8>He escaped to State prisid in Montana, he murdered a

1914
01:53:00.560 --> 01:53:03.560
<v Speaker 8>prison guard, he fled to Mexico. You know, these were

1915
01:53:03.600 --> 01:53:05.840
<v Speaker 8>all things that made him the number one person on

1916
01:53:05.880 --> 01:53:08.119
<v Speaker 8>the FBI's most wanted list in nineteen sixty one.

1917
01:53:08.640 --> 01:53:10.680
<v Speaker 3>He just happened to do all those things ten years

1918
01:53:10.720 --> 01:53:11.159
<v Speaker 3>prior to.

1919
01:53:11.199 --> 01:53:14.760
<v Speaker 8>The Zodiac when the Zodiac described as activities, that was

1920
01:53:14.840 --> 01:53:15.680
<v Speaker 8>nineteen sixty nine.

1921
01:53:15.760 --> 01:53:17.439
<v Speaker 3>Edwards did all that nineteen fifty nine.

1922
01:53:17.640 --> 01:53:20.880
<v Speaker 8>So Edward Win Edwards also at the same time Henry

1923
01:53:20.960 --> 01:53:23.880
<v Speaker 8>Lee Lucas is dancing around the US claimed to murder

1924
01:53:23.920 --> 01:53:27.479
<v Speaker 8>all these folks. Edward Winn Edwards is making parole for

1925
01:53:27.560 --> 01:53:30.520
<v Speaker 8>an insurance for Audrey burnt down a house in Pennsylvania.

1926
01:53:31.119 --> 01:53:33.600
<v Speaker 3>And you know, I think he's one of the fuck

1927
01:53:34.520 --> 01:53:35.880
<v Speaker 3>in this core of folks.

1928
01:53:37.640 --> 01:53:42.079
<v Speaker 5>Oh my god, fuck that guy. I do think it

1929
01:53:42.159 --> 01:53:45.199
<v Speaker 5>could be a team though. For the Zodiac murders, I do.

1930
01:53:45.600 --> 01:53:46.159
<v Speaker 3>I agree with you.

1931
01:53:46.439 --> 01:53:47.840
<v Speaker 5>I think it could have been a team.

1932
01:53:50.159 --> 01:53:51.279
<v Speaker 3>Ritchie Tennant bops.

1933
01:53:51.840 --> 01:53:54.800
<v Speaker 8>That's all like that comment now And yeah, So Edward

1934
01:53:54.800 --> 01:53:57.239
<v Speaker 8>win Ewards was directly connected to the Atlanta child killings.

1935
01:53:57.279 --> 01:53:59.319
<v Speaker 3>For example, he infiltrated.

1936
01:54:00.520 --> 01:54:03.159
<v Speaker 5>I'm going to talk about that in an upcoming episode

1937
01:54:03.199 --> 01:54:05.319
<v Speaker 5>with you guys see Atlanta Child Murders. I'm going to

1938
01:54:05.359 --> 01:54:05.880
<v Speaker 5>talk about that.

1939
01:54:06.279 --> 01:54:08.760
<v Speaker 3>Podcast MS an interesting topic.

1940
01:54:09.239 --> 01:54:12.359
<v Speaker 8>But he's documented as infiltrating that task force. He was

1941
01:54:12.399 --> 01:54:14.399
<v Speaker 8>not a cop, he was not anything. He was a

1942
01:54:14.479 --> 01:54:16.840
<v Speaker 8>high school dropout. He joined the RNs at sixteen and

1943
01:54:16.920 --> 01:54:19.000
<v Speaker 8>got thrown out because he faked a birth certificate. So

1944
01:54:19.319 --> 01:54:22.800
<v Speaker 8>the guy was never He had no qualifications at all

1945
01:54:23.359 --> 01:54:27.840
<v Speaker 8>remotely even to be there. Somehow he infiltrated the Atlanta

1946
01:54:27.880 --> 01:54:31.159
<v Speaker 8>Shy Killings Police Force or the task Force Rial Marietta

1947
01:54:31.199 --> 01:54:34.640
<v Speaker 8>Police Department sargeant's uniform. The uniform was found in the

1948
01:54:34.680 --> 01:54:36.800
<v Speaker 8>home that he burned down in Pennsylvania that he was

1949
01:54:36.840 --> 01:54:40.159
<v Speaker 8>doing time for, when all of a sudden he's getting

1950
01:54:40.199 --> 01:54:42.039
<v Speaker 8>out and Henry Lee Lucas has taken a hit for.

1951
01:54:42.159 --> 01:54:44.640
<v Speaker 8>I think a lot of the murders that Edward Way

1952
01:54:44.800 --> 01:54:47.640
<v Speaker 8>Edwards was responsible for ordering in participating in.

1953
01:54:48.600 --> 01:54:52.079
<v Speaker 5>Oh shit, that makes a lot of sense.

1954
01:54:55.600 --> 01:54:58.600
<v Speaker 7>And I really can't be downplayed how integral the military

1955
01:54:58.800 --> 01:55:00.560
<v Speaker 7>is and all of this, because this is where you

1956
01:55:00.560 --> 01:55:04.800
<v Speaker 7>can filter out and find the most psychopathic people who

1957
01:55:04.920 --> 01:55:09.319
<v Speaker 7>joined the military to get away with murder. So when

1958
01:55:09.359 --> 01:55:12.159
<v Speaker 7>I was in that there were several people in my

1959
01:55:12.359 --> 01:55:14.720
<v Speaker 7>unit that really wanted to go to war because they

1960
01:55:14.760 --> 01:55:17.920
<v Speaker 7>wanted to get away with murder. And if you're profiling

1961
01:55:18.159 --> 01:55:19.960
<v Speaker 7>on that level, you're going to find a bunch of

1962
01:55:20.039 --> 01:55:23.039
<v Speaker 7>them who then can be used as a state side

1963
01:55:23.600 --> 01:55:26.600
<v Speaker 7>kind of a psychopath that they can you know, use

1964
01:55:26.640 --> 01:55:31.279
<v Speaker 7>as these serial killers or they're the hit squad working

1965
01:55:31.359 --> 01:55:34.720
<v Speaker 7>in the background of these serial killers so that they

1966
01:55:34.760 --> 01:55:36.800
<v Speaker 7>can take out the targets that they want to take out.

1967
01:55:37.520 --> 01:55:38.640
<v Speaker 5>Mm hmmmm hmm.

1968
01:55:39.399 --> 01:55:39.600
<v Speaker 3>Yeah.

1969
01:55:39.760 --> 01:55:42.680
<v Speaker 5>They like mental institutions as well. They do a lot

1970
01:55:42.720 --> 01:55:49.920
<v Speaker 5>of poaching from there too, Like prisons, military mental institutions,

1971
01:55:50.000 --> 01:55:53.439
<v Speaker 5>those are there frequented hot spots for these.

1972
01:55:53.560 --> 01:55:58.039
<v Speaker 2>Assholes, especially experiments on people?

1973
01:55:59.439 --> 01:56:03.800
<v Speaker 5>Mm hmm yeah, like American Horror Story Asylum but like

1974
01:56:04.439 --> 01:56:07.800
<v Speaker 5>on steroids. Should you guys watch that season?

1975
01:56:08.199 --> 01:56:08.399
<v Speaker 2>Yeah?

1976
01:56:09.760 --> 01:56:10.079
<v Speaker 6>You did?

1977
01:56:10.880 --> 01:56:13.439
<v Speaker 5>You know the German guy that does all experiments on

1978
01:56:13.560 --> 01:56:16.439
<v Speaker 5>him in the basement and ship? Yeah, yeah, that was

1979
01:56:16.840 --> 01:56:20.600
<v Speaker 5>a weird real season for dude. It gives it gives

1980
01:56:20.640 --> 01:56:23.119
<v Speaker 5>me the fucking he be. GB's just talking about it, like,

1981
01:56:23.199 --> 01:56:25.600
<v Speaker 5>out of all the seasons, that one just stuck with me.

1982
01:56:25.800 --> 01:56:27.199
<v Speaker 5>It's really fucking disturbing.

1983
01:56:27.560 --> 01:56:28.760
<v Speaker 9>But I mean, I think.

1984
01:56:29.279 --> 01:56:33.159
<v Speaker 5>Anyone can agree the last place on Earth you'd ever

1985
01:56:33.239 --> 01:56:35.399
<v Speaker 5>want to end up, Like, I'd rather get hit by

1986
01:56:35.479 --> 01:56:39.319
<v Speaker 5>truck before somebody admitted me into a mental institution, like

1987
01:56:40.279 --> 01:56:44.920
<v Speaker 5>straight up, like girl interrupted fucked that ship and.

1988
01:56:44.960 --> 01:56:46.720
<v Speaker 4>That was like a religious place too, so that makes

1989
01:56:46.720 --> 01:56:55.880
<v Speaker 4>it even worse, right, right, all right? Uh, everybody's good?

1990
01:56:56.880 --> 01:56:57.239
<v Speaker 2>Oh good?

1991
01:56:57.279 --> 01:56:57.399
<v Speaker 6>Now?

1992
01:56:58.279 --> 01:56:58.600
<v Speaker 2>All right?

1993
01:56:59.800 --> 01:57:03.319
<v Speaker 7>That there the M K and M culture. Isn't that

1994
01:57:03.359 --> 01:57:06.119
<v Speaker 7>a German word? So it really does go back to

1995
01:57:06.159 --> 01:57:08.119
<v Speaker 7>a lot of this Operation paper Clip, where they brought

1996
01:57:08.159 --> 01:57:11.079
<v Speaker 7>these Nazi scientists who were doing this work back to

1997
01:57:11.159 --> 01:57:13.279
<v Speaker 7>the United States and started using go ahead.

1998
01:57:17.079 --> 01:57:20.079
<v Speaker 5>Oh Lisa, were you gonna say some no, no, no,

1999
01:57:20.239 --> 01:57:21.039
<v Speaker 5>keep going headless.

2000
01:57:21.079 --> 01:57:23.640
<v Speaker 11>It was just something that triggered me about some conversation

2001
01:57:23.800 --> 01:57:28.840
<v Speaker 11>Nick and I had about them WO, the O assassin CIA.

2002
01:57:29.199 --> 01:57:29.520
<v Speaker 2>That's all?

2003
01:57:30.680 --> 01:57:35.399
<v Speaker 7>Oh, well go ahead Germany.

2004
01:57:38.000 --> 01:57:39.159
<v Speaker 2>Oh do you know what the words are?

2005
01:57:40.840 --> 01:57:42.159
<v Speaker 7>I'm looking it up right now.

2006
01:57:43.880 --> 01:57:46.520
<v Speaker 2>Say some of us should have known that, one of

2007
01:57:46.600 --> 01:57:47.079
<v Speaker 2>us at least.

2008
01:57:50.279 --> 01:57:54.119
<v Speaker 5>Yeah, I feel like conspiracy. I lose fucking stars right

2009
01:57:54.199 --> 01:57:55.279
<v Speaker 5>now for not knowing.

2010
01:57:57.960 --> 01:58:01.039
<v Speaker 8>I like Krystle's over the Secret sun Logs interpretation of

2011
01:58:01.199 --> 01:58:02.920
<v Speaker 8>m K being magic.

2012
01:58:04.119 --> 01:58:05.079
<v Speaker 2>Oh is that what he said?

2013
01:58:05.119 --> 01:58:05.159
<v Speaker 5>So?

2014
01:58:05.319 --> 01:58:07.000
<v Speaker 3>Just an abbreviation from the word magic.

2015
01:58:07.680 --> 01:58:09.239
<v Speaker 6>O are.

2016
01:58:11.039 --> 01:58:11.680
<v Speaker 2>That's interesting?

2017
01:58:12.880 --> 01:58:13.359
<v Speaker 11>Interesting?

2018
01:58:13.520 --> 01:58:14.920
<v Speaker 6>I like that one. That's good.

2019
01:58:15.920 --> 01:58:18.600
<v Speaker 3>He's done a job doctor around. I don't want to

2020
01:58:18.640 --> 01:58:21.640
<v Speaker 3>misquote it, but he makes a good argument for it.

2021
01:58:23.119 --> 01:58:25.960
<v Speaker 5>Oh what our argument for what? Oh? The magic?

2022
01:58:27.560 --> 01:58:30.159
<v Speaker 3>Yeah? The MK is really just abbreviations from magic.

2023
01:58:31.359 --> 01:58:35.039
<v Speaker 5>Well, uh, Lisa, tell me about this OSS thing because

2024
01:58:35.079 --> 01:58:36.840
<v Speaker 5>I might have something to add on to that real

2025
01:58:36.920 --> 01:58:38.399
<v Speaker 5>quick before we before we.

2026
01:58:38.520 --> 01:58:42.279
<v Speaker 11>Go, So we Nick and I were discussing because you

2027
01:58:42.399 --> 01:58:46.800
<v Speaker 11>had made mention about I remember which show, which episode

2028
01:58:46.840 --> 01:58:50.359
<v Speaker 11>you had, but you you basically had said how I

2029
01:58:50.399 --> 01:58:54.000
<v Speaker 11>thought you put it brilliantly that people like to think

2030
01:58:54.079 --> 01:58:57.520
<v Speaker 11>that serial killer or any kind of these ritualistic abuses

2031
01:58:57.640 --> 01:59:00.359
<v Speaker 11>or anything like that. They're like, oh, it's the government. No,

2032
01:59:00.520 --> 01:59:03.199
<v Speaker 11>it's satanic, and it's oh it's one and the same. Right,

2033
01:59:04.119 --> 01:59:05.840
<v Speaker 11>So Nick and I were talking about that. I don't

2034
01:59:05.840 --> 01:59:08.239
<v Speaker 11>know if Nick, you want to interject or anything about that.

2035
01:59:09.520 --> 01:59:11.279
<v Speaker 4>Well, I think a lot of them kind of use

2036
01:59:11.359 --> 01:59:15.439
<v Speaker 4>the same technique. Like I do think like these especially

2037
01:59:15.520 --> 01:59:18.439
<v Speaker 4>the CIA, are intelligence agencies. I think they look from

2038
01:59:18.640 --> 01:59:22.560
<v Speaker 4>occultists or they use, my opinion, like kind of stuff

2039
01:59:22.600 --> 01:59:25.479
<v Speaker 4>with like what we're covering tonight. I would say, like

2040
01:59:25.600 --> 01:59:29.239
<v Speaker 4>kind of using magical techniques forcing them on people could

2041
01:59:29.359 --> 01:59:31.880
<v Speaker 4>technically be am akay ultra in my opinion, Well that

2042
01:59:31.960 --> 01:59:34.600
<v Speaker 4>could help like fracture somebody's mind, you know, if they

2043
01:59:34.640 --> 01:59:36.399
<v Speaker 4>don't know what's going on and you're kind of forcing

2044
01:59:36.479 --> 01:59:39.920
<v Speaker 4>it upon them. So I do think like sometimes there

2045
01:59:39.960 --> 01:59:41.640
<v Speaker 4>are one of the same and they go hand in hand.

2046
01:59:41.680 --> 01:59:44.399
<v Speaker 4>I do think the CIA is heavily interested in the

2047
01:59:44.439 --> 01:59:46.600
<v Speaker 4>occult and they're interested in occultists.

2048
01:59:47.560 --> 01:59:47.760
<v Speaker 2>Yeah.

2049
01:59:48.159 --> 01:59:52.640
<v Speaker 5>Well, I actually just said that the other day, and

2050
01:59:53.000 --> 01:59:56.479
<v Speaker 5>I promise I'm not stealing this from Nick, but I

2051
01:59:56.680 --> 01:59:59.039
<v Speaker 5>went on the cult of conspiracy to kind of wrap

2052
01:59:59.199 --> 02:00:02.920
<v Speaker 5>up this top. And I said, people get confused because

2053
02:00:02.960 --> 02:00:06.119
<v Speaker 5>they say, is it the government or is it Satanists

2054
02:00:06.319 --> 02:00:10.560
<v Speaker 5>or And I'm like, you're already you're already lost by

2055
02:00:10.680 --> 02:00:17.479
<v Speaker 5>asking that question, because the government and Satanists are one

2056
02:00:17.560 --> 02:00:19.880
<v Speaker 5>and the same thing. I mean, it's like you don't

2057
02:00:19.960 --> 02:00:22.680
<v Speaker 5>have to separate that shit out. You can't say, oh, well,

2058
02:00:22.760 --> 02:00:26.319
<v Speaker 5>this is governmental and this is satanic. Now that shit

2059
02:00:26.439 --> 02:00:29.960
<v Speaker 5>is pretty much like two wings of the same diseased bird.

2060
02:00:30.439 --> 02:00:30.600
<v Speaker 6>You know.

2061
02:00:31.000 --> 02:00:34.520
<v Speaker 11>For and all of the episodes that we're going through,

2062
02:00:34.640 --> 02:00:38.079
<v Speaker 11>I mean, we're seeing that the OSS has Nazi ties

2063
02:00:38.720 --> 02:00:40.920
<v Speaker 11>and if you look back at the Nazi Party, where

2064
02:00:41.000 --> 02:00:46.000
<v Speaker 11>are their origins? OSS? Backtrack to Nazi backtracked to what

2065
02:00:46.600 --> 02:00:50.800
<v Speaker 11>the occult? The occult is the premise of the entire

2066
02:00:51.319 --> 02:00:54.279
<v Speaker 11>Nazi philosophy. And so you look at OSS and then

2067
02:00:54.399 --> 02:00:57.079
<v Speaker 11>up until nineteen forty seven, what happens to the OSS

2068
02:00:57.880 --> 02:01:02.720
<v Speaker 11>It morphs into the CIA, Right, I mean, I don't

2069
02:01:02.720 --> 02:01:04.920
<v Speaker 11>know if I'm saying that correctly, JJ, but you know,

2070
02:01:05.000 --> 02:01:09.600
<v Speaker 11>you have all these intelligence agencies just basically repackaged, rebranding,

2071
02:01:10.079 --> 02:01:12.880
<v Speaker 11>and now we're you know, wearing new suits, We're wearing

2072
02:01:13.000 --> 02:01:16.000
<v Speaker 11>new Yeah. But it's still the same philosophy, it's still

2073
02:01:16.000 --> 02:01:18.399
<v Speaker 11>the same practice, it's still the same memo. And so

2074
02:01:18.680 --> 02:01:21.600
<v Speaker 11>to you know, to your point, it proves it right there.

2075
02:01:22.159 --> 02:01:26.119
<v Speaker 11>This is the this is the actual pedigree.

2076
02:01:25.920 --> 02:01:29.840
<v Speaker 5>Really well, and you know the OSS is just like

2077
02:01:29.960 --> 02:01:35.039
<v Speaker 5>you said, the precursor for the CIA. But fun fact

2078
02:01:35.119 --> 02:01:37.920
<v Speaker 5>of the day, do you know who Jackson Brown is?

2079
02:01:38.720 --> 02:01:43.600
<v Speaker 5>He's big in the Yeah, Jackson Brown, who's big and

2080
02:01:43.720 --> 02:01:48.600
<v Speaker 5>kind of like the Laurel Kenyan era. His dad was OSS.

2081
02:01:49.600 --> 02:01:52.479
<v Speaker 5>So I mean, like, you're not gonna you're not gonna

2082
02:01:52.479 --> 02:01:56.079
<v Speaker 5>get away from any of these counterculture like these major

2083
02:01:56.439 --> 02:02:00.079
<v Speaker 5>artists having some type of military connections or somewhere and

2084
02:02:00.119 --> 02:02:00.600
<v Speaker 5>ship like that.

2085
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<v Speaker 2>Julia Child is always.

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<v Speaker 6>What are you making a joke?

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<v Speaker 5>Ye? Oh my god. Hey, you know the guy that

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<v Speaker 5>hosted the Gong shows he said he was a CIA

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<v Speaker 5>operative and that he killed thirty three people and that. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 5>and he said he hosted the Gong Show as his

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<v Speaker 5>side job. I just learned about this, So, I mean, dude,

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<v Speaker 5>and I think a lot of these celebs, by the

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<v Speaker 5>way that get murdered or they commit suicide, I don't

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<v Speaker 5>think they're actually dead, most of them. And they go

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<v Speaker 5>on there they killed a character off, right, and the

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<v Speaker 5>actual person goes on to do something else. Elvis, Michael Jackson,

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<v Speaker 5>fucking h Robin Williams, like a lot of these. They

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<v Speaker 5>kill Jim Morrison, Yes, I believe that one for sure.

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<v Speaker 5>A lot of people say Jimmy Hendrix as well. They

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<v Speaker 5>kill right, they kill off their main character and then

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<v Speaker 5>they just go on to either A play another character

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<v Speaker 5>or b they just live out the rest of their

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<v Speaker 5>life totally anonymous.

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<v Speaker 6>So Bill Hicks Alex Jones, you cannot convince me that

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<v Speaker 6>that is not Alex Jones.

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<v Speaker 5>Where the god?

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<v Speaker 9>Oh my god, come on, girl, I agree with you.

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<v Speaker 3>That one seems pretty uh, pretty on point with that one.

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<v Speaker 8>The details between the two guys, I mean, the mere

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<v Speaker 8>fact Alex Jones accepts comedy awards and Bill Hicks's name

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<v Speaker 8>should be enough evidence.

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<v Speaker 6>What's that about?

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, it's on video doing it. He's on video accepting

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<v Speaker 3>a warden Bill Hick's name.

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<v Speaker 6>How does that make it?

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<v Speaker 5>Oh my god? Well, I mean, hey, I'm definitely not

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<v Speaker 5>going to put it outside the roma possibility because I'm

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<v Speaker 5>the one who thinks this grand theory about people playing

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<v Speaker 5>characters is sucking true. But it's an example, maybe yeah,

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<v Speaker 5>it's easy.

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<v Speaker 3>I love I love Jim Morrison's Rush Limball though he

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<v Speaker 3>was great.

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<v Speaker 5>Oh my god, I heard that one just recently.

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<v Speaker 3>They have so many similarities, even down to the gold microphone.

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<v Speaker 5>I heard that one. That's a good one.

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<v Speaker 11>Oh my god.

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<v Speaker 8>Fad Jim Morrison looks identical to Russian Lamball, one of

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<v Speaker 8>the last known fellows of Morrison before he died, identical

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<v Speaker 8>to a young Limball, and Limball is deeply connected to

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<v Speaker 8>Spook xav.

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<v Speaker 3>He's for generations.

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<v Speaker 5>I was just talking to my boyfriend Kolby about this

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<v Speaker 5>the other day, and we were talking about, you know,

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<v Speaker 5>the Val Kilmer movie where he plays Jim Morrison. All right, yeah, yeah,

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<v Speaker 5>the Doors. Okay, so he looked exactly like him, performed

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<v Speaker 5>exactly like him, sounded exactly like him, and it was amazing. Right,

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<v Speaker 5>But wouldn't it be a cooler movie if somebody took

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<v Speaker 5>the actual story of Jim Morrison and made a fucking

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<v Speaker 5>movie about it. Like your dad is fucking high level military,

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<v Speaker 5>fucking tnking golf shit, Vietnam War is all your fault,

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<v Speaker 5>and you become like this superstar, fucking Jim Morrison, fucking

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<v Speaker 5>light my fire bullshit and then you fake your own

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<v Speaker 5>death and then you become resal in bah and liked.

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<v Speaker 5>I mean, that's a fucking movie right there. The val

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<v Speaker 5>Kilmer one was cool, but somebody fucking make that a

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<v Speaker 5>movie because that's the what did they say, like, reality

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<v Speaker 5>is stranger than fiction?

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<v Speaker 3>Sure, yeah, we would be a better tea for sure.

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<v Speaker 4>I love more entertaining interesting, I'm sure. All right, I

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<v Speaker 4>guess we'll wrap it up now, right, everybody's good, all right,

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<v Speaker 4>Thank you very much again, Julia for coming on. There

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<v Speaker 4>was a lot of stuff that was really fun and interesting.

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<v Speaker 4>Please let everybody know where they can find your stuff

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<v Speaker 4>one more time.

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<v Speaker 5>Yeah. Thanks. I have Cosmic Peach podcasts. It's available wherever

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<v Speaker 5>you listen to podcasts. If you want ad free exclusive stuff,

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<v Speaker 5>you can go on Patreon and look for Cosmic Peach.

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<v Speaker 5>I'm actually working on a new series. I'll give you

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<v Speaker 5>like a little teaser for it. But I watched this

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<v Speaker 5>show called The Dark Side of the Nineties and it

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<v Speaker 5>was just like this a Hulu thing. It was like

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<v Speaker 5>kind of retarded but kind of interesting at the same time.

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<v Speaker 5>And they were talking about the dark side of the

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<v Speaker 5>nineties and like the darkest they went was like somebody

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<v Speaker 5>killed somebody else over a beanie baby, and I was like,

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<v Speaker 5>this is not the dark side of the nineties. Can

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<v Speaker 5>we talk about like Courtney Kurt Cobain and like all

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<v Speaker 5>this great ohj and fucking like, that's the dark side

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<v Speaker 5>of the nineties. So I got like a little project

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<v Speaker 5>bruin with that, and I think some of you might

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<v Speaker 5>be nineties babies, but I think it's all super nostalgic

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<v Speaker 5>and it's interesting and fun to talk about anyways. But

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<v Speaker 5>there's like Heaven's Gate cult and like all kinds of

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<v Speaker 5>shit that broke clues in the nineties. So yeah, so

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<v Speaker 5>you can look forward to that eventually. I'm going to

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<v Speaker 5>try to have it done by February.

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<v Speaker 7>Well sounds good.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, thank you, Thank you very much. I'm pretty sure.

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<v Speaker 4>I'm almost positive your stuff is already in the bottom

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<v Speaker 4>of my show notes on my end. Yeah, so if

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<v Speaker 4>anybody wants to go check your stuff out, it's there now.

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<v Speaker 4>Thank you all again for jumping on the show. Thank

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<v Speaker 4>you Lisa, thank you Headless, thank you JJ, thank you Teresa,

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<v Speaker 4>thank you Mike, and thank you everybody who jumped in

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<v Speaker 4>on the chat.

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<v Speaker 2>That's what's up.

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<v Speaker 4>They had a bunch of people here and just nice

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<v Speaker 4>seeing some new names from I guess JJ side Headless.

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<v Speaker 4>Thank you all, and that's the end of another Occult

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<v Speaker 4>Rejects until the next one. Everybody be well, La