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<v Speaker 1>Hey everyone, and welcome to another Sasquatch Theory podcast. Tonight,

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<v Speaker 1>we travel into the rugged forest of northern California near

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<v Speaker 1>Mount Lassen, where a veteran logger named Renee shares encounters

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<v Speaker 1>that change the way he sees the wilderness forever. What

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<v Speaker 1>started as a routine logging operation quickly turned into something

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<v Speaker 1>he still struggles to explain. On the very first night

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<v Speaker 1>in camp, Renee says he heard horrific screams echoing through

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<v Speaker 1>the timber from multiple directions, sounds so loud and violent

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<v Speaker 1>it reminded him of two by fours snapping in the darkness.

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<v Speaker 1>But things only escalated one night. Something came directly to

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<v Speaker 1>his window and screamed. Later, while driving a state highway

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<v Speaker 1>at roughly fifty five miles an hour, Renee claims, a

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<v Speaker 1>massive brown creature ran alongside his vehicle on all fours,

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<v Speaker 1>keeping pace before striking the vehicle and damaging it. To Renee,

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<v Speaker 1>it felt personal, as as if whatever lived in those

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<v Speaker 1>mountains was reacting to the destruction taking place in its habitat.

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<v Speaker 1>let's dive straight into Renee's Bigfoot encounters from northern California. Renee,

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<v Speaker 1>Welcome to Sasquatch Theory. How are you doing today?

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<v Speaker 2>I'm pretty good. How are you?

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<v Speaker 1>I'm doing excellent and it's an absolute pleasure to have

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<v Speaker 1>you on the show today, Renee, If you would tell

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<v Speaker 1>me a little bit about yourself and and your experiences

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<v Speaker 1>from the very beginning.

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<v Speaker 2>Please, Well, I've worked in the woods all my life

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<v Speaker 2>and I'm pretty much retired now, but these things have

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<v Speaker 2>been in my life longer than I ever imagined. It

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<v Speaker 2>took it took a while before I started putting the

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<v Speaker 2>pieces together. There were some weird things that went on

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<v Speaker 2>when I was younger that I never could wrap my

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<v Speaker 2>head around until I finally accepted that these things were real.

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<v Speaker 1>If you would take me back to your first experience

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<v Speaker 1>and put me in your shoes and try to describe

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<v Speaker 1>everything in full detail, please.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, well, I can only tell you the first thing

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<v Speaker 2>I know of, because I'm sure stuff went on before that.

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<v Speaker 2>I blew off. I was staying alone in a camp

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<v Speaker 2>on a logging job in the Northern Sierras, and the

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<v Speaker 2>Hall Road the trucks were going in and out of

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<v Speaker 2>was right beside my camp. They were just driving right

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<v Speaker 2>by during to day. But across that road was a ravine,

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<v Speaker 2>and it was a hill. The trucks were going up

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<v Speaker 2>and downhill. And then there was a crake not too

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<v Speaker 2>far below. But the middle of the night, like two

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<v Speaker 2>in an ring or something. I'm asleep, and I started

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<v Speaker 2>hearing this screaming. Something's coming down the ravine, screaming like

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<v Speaker 2>a woman being burned with a blow torch. I mean,

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<v Speaker 2>just got awful. I'm bloody, murder screaming. And another one

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<v Speaker 2>was coming up the ravine from the creek, and they

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<v Speaker 2>met opposite my camp across the Hall road. Intervene straight

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<v Speaker 2>across the road, and when they met, they stopped screaming.

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<v Speaker 2>It was like they timed it, you know, they both

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<v Speaker 2>got to the same spot at the same time. They

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<v Speaker 2>both stopped screaming and started waking wood. That sounded like

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<v Speaker 2>two by tears. And two by four snapping. I never

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<v Speaker 2>did go over there and see what it was because

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<v Speaker 2>I just thought it must be cougar's fighting or something.

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<v Speaker 2>But it was so loud, and I'm a light sleeper.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't like things waking me up. It made me mad,

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<v Speaker 2>so I opened the door. I told them shut up,

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<v Speaker 2>and they did. And then I don't know, a week

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<v Speaker 2>or two later, one of them came along in the

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<v Speaker 2>middle of night, right up to my camper window and

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<v Speaker 2>screamed like that, and I just about had a heart attack.

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<v Speaker 2>And then while I was still working on that same job.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't know how many weeks it was later, but

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<v Speaker 2>I'd gone to church at night and was coming back

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<v Speaker 2>and I was probably ten miles away as the crow

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<v Speaker 2>flies on State Highway coming down from where Mount Lassen is,

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<v Speaker 2>and there was a high embankment on my right side

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<v Speaker 2>with just red derret and no plants, and I'm doing

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<v Speaker 2>fifty five and this thing comes into my vision from

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<v Speaker 2>my right side and it's catching up to me as

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<v Speaker 2>it comes down that hillside and I'm doing fifty five

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<v Speaker 2>and catching me, and all I could tell was it

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<v Speaker 2>was it looked like a big brown, hairy thing, but

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<v Speaker 2>it was like almost big as a buffalo, and I

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<v Speaker 2>just instinctively crossed over the yellow line and that thing

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<v Speaker 2>hit my front fender and smashed it right into the

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<v Speaker 2>tire where it was trying to cut. The tire, caved

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<v Speaker 2>in the door, bent the door frame back, and just

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<v Speaker 2>crapped all down the side of the car. And it

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<v Speaker 2>stopped me cold. I'm sitting on the highway facing the

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<v Speaker 2>wrong way going what was that? And that thing just

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<v Speaker 2>kept out on running. No bear could do that, There's

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<v Speaker 2>no way, but I you know, just like the screening thing,

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<v Speaker 2>I'm like, I didn't know what to make of It

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<v Speaker 2>looked like, wow, you know, didn't hurt anybody. But it

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<v Speaker 2>took years before I finally realized what was I think

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<v Speaker 2>it might have been the same ones from where we

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<v Speaker 2>were logging, because we were taking all the overstory on

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<v Speaker 2>this property that was gated when no one had been

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<v Speaker 2>in the bothering them for years and years, and I

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<v Speaker 2>think they got mad at me. I think maybe they

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<v Speaker 2>hit my car because just to pay me back something.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't know. That was the That was the first

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<v Speaker 2>time I had to go around with them.

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<v Speaker 1>What part of North America did these encounters or experiences

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<v Speaker 1>take place up.

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<v Speaker 2>This was in northern California between Matt Lawson and Read

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<v Speaker 2>in California.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, very interesting. So what happened after this?

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<v Speaker 2>Oh it was it was years before something else happened.

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<v Speaker 2>I moved out of California to northeast Washington, and I've

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<v Speaker 2>been here for thirty years. But see the first thing

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<v Speaker 2>I recall happening here. It must have been the time

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<v Speaker 2>I U I heard a noise in the middle of

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<v Speaker 2>I Like I said, I'm a light sleeper and this noise.

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<v Speaker 2>I thought it was my cat trying to open my door,

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<v Speaker 2>and it woke me up, and I walked to the door,

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<v Speaker 2>had my flash flight opened the door and this. I

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<v Speaker 2>had just got some new trash cans, plastic trash cans,

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<v Speaker 2>and I time shot with a twine something great, big

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<v Speaker 2>and black, but I couldn't see it. Was this a

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<v Speaker 2>huge ball of hair, I mean big as a kitchen table.

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<v Speaker 2>It was hunched over my trashcan. I couldn't see any

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<v Speaker 2>arms or legs or a head or anything. Just like

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<v Speaker 2>gigantic ball of black fur hair. As the hair was

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<v Speaker 2>like six inches long, and it looked weird, like you

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<v Speaker 2>could see through it. It was like Manofellam fishing line,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, but it was black, super clean, and when

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<v Speaker 2>I hollered, I thought it was a cat. I said,

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<v Speaker 2>stinking cat, And then I realized that's not a cat.

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<v Speaker 2>The thing jumped like a frog and landed about thirty

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<v Speaker 2>feet away, and then it bounded a couple more times,

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<v Speaker 2>and it went off over high embankment, hit a pile

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<v Speaker 2>of roof and ten and it was gone in just

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<v Speaker 2>two seconds. I think that was the second time did

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<v Speaker 2>I realize there. I know there'd been other times that

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<v Speaker 2>I just didn't realize what was going on, and I

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<v Speaker 2>think I think the next time something happened was something

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<v Speaker 2>slapped my house way up high. The highest part of

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<v Speaker 2>the roof slapped it so hard that I thought a

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<v Speaker 2>big tree had fell and broke the roof, and it

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<v Speaker 2>just woke me up. Oooh. Now nothing was on the roof.

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<v Speaker 2>There was no sign of anything. It was quite a shock,

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<v Speaker 2>you know. I knew the roof was caved in. I

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<v Speaker 2>just knew it. But then I think it was a

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<v Speaker 2>year or two later. I'd got a motor home part

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<v Speaker 2>inside my house, and there's just room if you could

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<v Speaker 2>walk through there and touch of them at the same time,

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<v Speaker 2>it's close enough. Something ran three there between my house

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<v Speaker 2>and my motor home in the middle of the night,

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<v Speaker 2>and it was so loud, stomping as it ran, it

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<v Speaker 2>sounded like it was forty fifty feet away. When it

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<v Speaker 2>woke me up, I could hear it coming. Boom boom,

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<v Speaker 2>boom boom, ran right through and kept right on going.

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<v Speaker 2>And that was no deer, that was no bear. Nothing

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<v Speaker 2>I know. I could do that. And I've heard last

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<v Speaker 2>summer I heard voices in the woods, because when I'm

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<v Speaker 2>surrounded with timber here. I went outside and I heard

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<v Speaker 2>people talking. I walked over the close at the edge

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<v Speaker 2>my property, and I'm like, they weren't speaking English for sure.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't know what they were saying. But I went

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<v Speaker 2>back and house, got a flashlight and I went out there.

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<v Speaker 2>I couldn't find anything that was weird. That was not

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<v Speaker 2>It might have been people, but they sure weren't speaking English.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, that is interesting. What kind of language do you think?

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<v Speaker 1>It sounded like.

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<v Speaker 2>Eastern European, maybe mixed with the Oriental. I don't know,

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<v Speaker 2>it was weird nothing I've heard.

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<v Speaker 1>I've heard people say it sounds like French or even

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<v Speaker 1>like Japanese. So like, who knows what type of language

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<v Speaker 1>of these things speak, but they're obviously very intelligent and

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<v Speaker 1>you can tell they have their own language or form

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<v Speaker 1>of communication.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh yeah, whatever these were, I don't know what they were.

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<v Speaker 2>But it wasn't Russian and it wasn't German, you know what.

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<v Speaker 2>I've heard all those things, and I think you could

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<v Speaker 2>tell it that's what it was, you know, but it

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<v Speaker 2>sounded like some kind of Eastern European language maybe, who knows.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, very interesting that thing that was.

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<v Speaker 2>That thing it was in my garbage. I couldn't believe

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<v Speaker 2>that the way it jumped, I mean, like a frog.

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<v Speaker 2>It was just gone airborne. I didn't never even saw

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<v Speaker 2>arms or legs or anything. It just launched. I don't

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<v Speaker 2>know how without without seeing arms legs it could do that.

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<v Speaker 1>M m yeah, it just like springed into action. I

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<v Speaker 1>interviewed a guy from Pike County, Missouri, who saw one

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<v Speaker 1>at a creek bottom on his farm property, and he

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<v Speaker 1>said it looked over at him and then it jumped

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<v Speaker 1>straight up into the air about six or seven feet

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<v Speaker 1>and just walked off.

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<v Speaker 2>This thing just it didn't run, It just went airborne.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean it probably was six or eight feet in

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<v Speaker 2>the air at least just launched. It was gone. It

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<v Speaker 2>didn't take one step. It was shot out of here

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<v Speaker 2>like a river band. But the one that ran between

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<v Speaker 2>the motorhome and the house, it was taking some steps.

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<v Speaker 2>That thing sounded like it had to weigh over a ton.

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<v Speaker 2>The noise it was making boom boom, boom boom.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, so you could hear like the thud on the ground.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh yeah, it was definitely bipedaled, you know, two feet,

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<v Speaker 2>the the the the They just got louder as it came,

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<v Speaker 2>and then it went by and it got quieter, and

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<v Speaker 2>it never slept the house or anything that time. But

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<v Speaker 2>I have a feeling it might be the same one.

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<v Speaker 2>All these instances that I've had happen right here has

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<v Speaker 2>been one juvenile that's been messing with me.

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<v Speaker 1>Yes, my daughter. I feel like they were following you

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<v Speaker 1>throughout your life, or either a clan or a single

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<v Speaker 1>individual from.

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<v Speaker 2>What I gather, Once they connect with you somehow, you're

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<v Speaker 2>always going to see her here and again. You know,

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<v Speaker 2>I think that they once once one of them knows you,

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I've heard that from people before, and it makes

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<v Speaker 1>you feel like if there's some sort of connection with

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<v Speaker 2>Though I think it's all of them. I think that

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<v Speaker 2>they all know it.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah. Absolutely, I feel the same way with my experiences. Okay,

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<v Speaker 1>so you were mentioning that your daughter.

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<v Speaker 2>She had some horses here because she lived in town,

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<v Speaker 2>out later on that the Sasquatches do that to horses,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, Maors. And I don't know if there's something

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<v Speaker 2>weird going on between the sasquatch and the horse. But

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<v Speaker 2>but louder, bigger, like a like it would have to

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<v Speaker 2>be big as a buffalo, a real big, loud snort,

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<v Speaker 2>and the horse was snorting back to it. Wow, wow,

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<v Speaker 2>I wonder what that is. That's big whatever they did.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh back in the house, that's where they like braid

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<v Speaker 1>a trance. I don't know. Or maybe they're just friends

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<v Speaker 1>with them, like they be friend animals, whether it's dogs, horses,

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<v Speaker 2>Well, I think they do both. Yeah, okay, I think that. Uh.

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<v Speaker 2>I think they can do it to people too. I

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<v Speaker 2>think they can. They can put you in a trance.

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<v Speaker 2>I think they can put thoughts into your head. They

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<v Speaker 2>can I think beyond that, I think they can even

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<v Speaker 2>make you because you hear of people smelling something or

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<v Speaker 2>hearing something, the person might aside them didn't hear a

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<v Speaker 2>smell thing. I think they can put that into your mind.

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<v Speaker 2>Whatever senses your body has, they can bypass your sensory inputs.

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<v Speaker 2>Was something that they want you to see, smell or here,

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<v Speaker 2>or think they can even I think they might even

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<v Speaker 2>be able to put in tough memories in your head,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, or take them out. I think they can

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<v Speaker 1>Oh yeah, absolutely, whether it's infrasound or something else going on,

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<v Speaker 1>it's definitely strange. And I've heard a report where the

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<v Speaker 1>sasquatch was terrorizing a family and they were just banging

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<v Speaker 2>Mm hmm.

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<v Speaker 1>That's not right, No, not at all. Okay, so what else?

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<v Speaker 2>People do that too? The same thing happens with people

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<v Speaker 2>one personal here, all kinds of crazy, Like when the

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<v Speaker 2>thing ran between my house and my motor home, my

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<v Speaker 2>son was sleeping in the motorhome. Media here thing. I

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<v Speaker 2>think I was meant to hear that, and that might

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<v Speaker 2>have been just projected into my mind. Maybe it didn't happen,

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<v Speaker 2>I don't know.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, that's a good point, and that's scary to think about,

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<v Speaker 1>Like possibly you saw something that the other person wouldn't

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<v Speaker 1>see and they put it into your mind. Maybe you're

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<v Speaker 1>you're experiencing something else, like I don't know. For example,

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<v Speaker 1>let's say like you saw a gray alien, but really

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<v Speaker 1>it made you think you saw bigfoot. Now that's just

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<v Speaker 1>a theory and who knows what's really going on.

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<v Speaker 2>Right, Well, it wouldn't surprise me. I think the rabbit

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<v Speaker 2>hole is bigger than the universe we know of. I

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<v Speaker 2>think there's so much out there that we don't know

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<v Speaker 2>about that we'll never live long enough to learn it,

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<v Speaker 2>even if they told us the truth about it. You know,

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<v Speaker 2>it just there's too much that we couldn't wrap our

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, that's a good point right there, Like maybe if

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<v Speaker 1>they explain it to us, we just wouldn't understand.

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<v Speaker 2>No, we can't. They don't. Supposedly, they don't think like

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<v Speaker 2>we do. They think similar to what we do, but

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<v Speaker 2>a lot of the ways of thinking and act and

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<v Speaker 2>they don't make perfect sense to us because they're different.

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<v Speaker 1>M Yeah, I agree with that, And they're probably thinking

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<v Speaker 1>if humans explain things to us, we just wouldn't understand

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<v Speaker 1>their ways.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, I think I think. I think. I think they're

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<v Speaker 2>keeping track of all of us. I think they just

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<v Speaker 2>live to watch us. I don't know if they were

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<v Speaker 2>creative for that, or they're just bored or what, but

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<v Speaker 2>I think they're around a lot of people that don't

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<v Speaker 2>have a clue.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh yeah, that's a fact right there. They're definitely watching

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<v Speaker 1>people and we are a form of entertainment to them,

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<v Speaker 1>or possibly there's a bigger picture to it all, and

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<v Speaker 1>they're watching us for a specific reason, like they have

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<v Speaker 1>a purpose and a mission.

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<v Speaker 2>Well you hear people say that that they were told

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<v Speaker 2>through mind speak. I can't touch you right now, but

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<v Speaker 2>I could kill you right this second if I wanted

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<v Speaker 2>to do it. I'm not allowed to.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I mean that seems to be the case because

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<v Speaker 1>they can rip out a full sized tree and deroot

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<v Speaker 1>it from the ground, but yet they just follow people

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<v Speaker 1>out of the woods and nothing ever happens to them.

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<v Speaker 1>It's like they could easily squash you like a like

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<v Speaker 1>a bug, but they don't.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, they wouldn't play with the doorknob. They could just

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<v Speaker 2>put their hand to the winter frame and pull the

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<v Speaker 2>tar wall out.

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<v Speaker 1>Or when they look through somebody's window, it's like that

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<v Speaker 1>thing could easily just come through the house like the

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<v Speaker 1>window and just pull you out if it wanted to.

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<v Speaker 2>There's got to be restrictions on them. Yeah, it seems

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<v Speaker 2>like they have a powerful somebody is ruling over them

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<v Speaker 2>and limiting them. And I also also from all everything

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<v Speaker 2>I've seen and read. I think there's you know, more

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<v Speaker 2>than one type of bigfoot. I think there's there's a

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<v Speaker 2>flesh and blood type. Then there's a type that can

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<v Speaker 2>be shape shifters or invisible or flesh and blood if

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<v Speaker 2>they want to. And I think those are the bad ones.

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<v Speaker 2>I think the ones that are just flesh and blood

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<v Speaker 2>are the good ones.

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<v Speaker 1>Maybe, yeah, very well, could be.

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<v Speaker 2>The ones that can do all the supernatural stuff. Seem

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<v Speaker 2>to be evil, yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>And it seems like they're exercising self control because, like

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<v Speaker 1>you said earlier, if they wanted to hurt you, they

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<v Speaker 1>easily could. And maybe they really do know that if

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<v Speaker 1>they hurt someone or take someone like, there's going to

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<v Speaker 1>be more people looking for them, and it's going to

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<v Speaker 1>bring trouble to their clan or they're just waiting for something.

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<v Speaker 2>If too many of that of the humans find out

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<v Speaker 2>that they're there and they're doing horrible things, then we're

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<v Speaker 2>going to insist the government go after them full force.

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<v Speaker 2>And they don't want that, yeah, for sure.

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<v Speaker 1>And just the way people are, they'll just shoot, like

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<v Speaker 1>let's say, if someone saw a mountain line, they'll just

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<v Speaker 1>shoot it just to shoot it, just just for sport.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh, yeah. Oh yeah, there's there's some some kids did

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<v Speaker 2>that to a guy walking down a railroad tracks here

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<v Speaker 2>like twenty years ago, like hey, let's shoot that guy

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<v Speaker 2>and see what it's like. Like they'll they'll do it

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<v Speaker 2>even people.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah. Absolutely, I think they're self aware that humans are

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<v Speaker 1>destructive and dangerous.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, I think some of them are too, but I

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<v Speaker 2>think it's a very small minority. I think there are

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<v Speaker 2>some that they do horrible things to people and they

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<v Speaker 2>are banned from the rest of the Bigfoots or they're

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<v Speaker 2>just torn to pieces, they get killed for what they did.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah. Absolutely, it seems like.

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<v Speaker 2>I think because they all know what the other ones

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<v Speaker 2>are doing pretty much all the time. I think they

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<v Speaker 2>can't get away with things.

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<v Speaker 1>M Yeah, they work like I don't know, like they're one.

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<v Speaker 1>They seem to have like a hive mind, similar to

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<v Speaker 1>bees or doverman. I just think they know things. So

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<v Speaker 1>when one's out of line and they start causing trouble

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<v Speaker 1>for humans, maybe they get casted out or just they

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<v Speaker 1>remove them.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah. Well, I'm sure they get benned, you know, from

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<v Speaker 2>the group when they they don't get back in line,

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<v Speaker 2>or if they do something too bad. You know, they're

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, for sure. I mean i've heard reports from people

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<v Speaker 1>where these things are just killing deer after deer. It

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<v Speaker 1>just seems like they're killing for sport, or they'll just

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<v Speaker 1>like hurt people's pets or try to take humans and

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<v Speaker 1>cause a lot of problems. But that's not the case

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<v Speaker 1>for all of them, Like some of them show compassion

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<v Speaker 1>and just self control. They want to go the Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>i've heard reports where they save people. That's a very

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<v Speaker 2>Or I think that there's times when you hear people

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<v Speaker 2>talking about they get a message in your mind, don't

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<v Speaker 2>go up there, turn around, go home, And I think

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<v Speaker 2>they're being warned there's danger there's either wolves or a

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<v Speaker 2>bad big foot or something, or they just want privacy.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, those are all valid points.

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<v Speaker 2>You hear that all the time.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I've heard that countless times where people say I

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<v Speaker 1>just got this feeling like something told me leave now

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<v Speaker 1>or get out. Mm hmm. Yeah, I hear that from

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<v Speaker 1>people a lot. You've never heard it, though I haven't.

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<v Speaker 1>I've just gotten the feeling like something's not right, like

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<v Speaker 1>I need to leave, And maybe that was mine speak.

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<v Speaker 1>But you can just definitely tell that the atmosphere just

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<v Speaker 1>feels completely different. Something's not right, And especially when you

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<v Speaker 1>have experiences where they're wood knocking or pushing over trees,

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I've had that rock clacking stuff happen here. One

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<v Speaker 2>time I heard two sets of three. It was clack,

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<v Speaker 2>clock clack, and then it was a set of four,

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<v Speaker 2>and then another set of three. And supposedly that's according

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<v Speaker 2>to some people, that's like code. You know how in

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<v Speaker 2>the TV movies the Indians are using bird noises and

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<v Speaker 2>stuff and to signal each other stuff. Mm hmm.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>I think maybe that's what they're doing when some of

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<v Speaker 2>these noises they're making, like their whoops and stuff.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I think so too. I think they're communicating with

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<v Speaker 1>Did you hear the rock clacks by a creek bottom?

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<v Speaker 2>No? No, it's up on a mountain here where it's

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<v Speaker 2>pretty much all decomposed granite and there are no rocks.

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<v Speaker 1>Wow. Yeah. And when I heard it, it sounded like

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<v Speaker 1>somebody was flint napping in the woods, you know, like

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<v Speaker 1>what it sounds like when someone's making arrowheads. It kind

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<v Speaker 1>of sounds like that.

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<v Speaker 2>This sounded like quick bottom being hit together. Yeah, it

422
00:24:03.039 --> 00:24:05.440
<v Speaker 2>might have been great big teeth, you know, snapping together.

423
00:24:05.519 --> 00:24:06.000
<v Speaker 2>I don't know.

424
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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I've recorded the rock clock several times and I've

425
00:24:10.039 --> 00:24:12.839
<v Speaker 1>tried to decode it, but it's like you said, like

426
00:24:12.920 --> 00:24:15.519
<v Speaker 1>sets of threes, and like they'll pause and then do

427
00:24:15.599 --> 00:24:21.000
<v Speaker 1>it again, and it's just like a combination of different strikes.

428
00:24:21.039 --> 00:24:21.799
<v Speaker 1>I guess.

429
00:24:22.200 --> 00:24:24.119
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, it doesn't sound random.

430
00:24:24.200 --> 00:24:26.799
<v Speaker 1>No, not at all. You definitely know it's not a woodpecker.

431
00:24:26.839 --> 00:24:29.279
<v Speaker 1>It's rock on rock, and like you said, it's creek

432
00:24:29.319 --> 00:24:32.160
<v Speaker 1>bottom rocks, like they're like high pitch sounding.

433
00:24:33.759 --> 00:24:36.480
<v Speaker 2>I've had a couple of times I've had things at

434
00:24:36.480 --> 00:24:39.640
<v Speaker 2>work happened that were really kind of weird. I was

435
00:24:40.400 --> 00:24:43.799
<v Speaker 2>running skater pulling bunches of trees to a process or

436
00:24:44.400 --> 00:24:47.160
<v Speaker 2>like five years ago, and it come to work one

437
00:24:47.200 --> 00:24:49.559
<v Speaker 2>morning and there's all these trees shoved in the trail.

438
00:24:50.440 --> 00:24:53.160
<v Speaker 2>I couldn't get through there. I'd taken break them all

439
00:24:53.200 --> 00:24:55.279
<v Speaker 2>the pieces or go get a saw to get in

440
00:24:55.319 --> 00:24:56.680
<v Speaker 2>and out of. And then when I went on a

441
00:24:57.079 --> 00:24:59.799
<v Speaker 2>pass there, I kind of had the heav gbs like

442
00:25:00.319 --> 00:25:02.839
<v Speaker 2>this is really weird, this is really weird. But that

443
00:25:03.000 --> 00:25:06.680
<v Speaker 2>kind of passed pretty quick and we were going up

444
00:25:06.720 --> 00:25:11.079
<v Speaker 2>into some really steep, thick timber and on steep ground,

445
00:25:11.079 --> 00:25:14.400
<v Speaker 2>and it was slow going, and I think maybe they

446
00:25:14.440 --> 00:25:16.799
<v Speaker 2>had theirself a little camp or something in there and

447
00:25:16.839 --> 00:25:22.759
<v Speaker 2>they just wanted to don't come up here. That was

448
00:25:22.799 --> 00:25:24.720
<v Speaker 2>just too weird because there's no wind or anything to

449
00:25:24.720 --> 00:25:30.640
<v Speaker 2>bowl those trees over. Another time, we were logging up

450
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<v Speaker 2>by the Canadian border and I was the last guy

451
00:25:36.000 --> 00:25:37.839
<v Speaker 2>on the job. Everybody else had left, and I was

452
00:25:37.839 --> 00:25:40.559
<v Speaker 2>feeling up and I started feeling this funny feeling, like

453
00:25:41.759 --> 00:25:47.359
<v Speaker 2>there's a cougar or something stalking me, you know, looking around,

454
00:25:47.400 --> 00:25:50.680
<v Speaker 2>hurry up, feel get full. And I noticed this thing.

455
00:25:51.240 --> 00:25:54.119
<v Speaker 2>We did a clear cut about the road and it's

456
00:25:54.160 --> 00:25:56.440
<v Speaker 2>probably five hundred feet to the top of that, and

457
00:25:56.480 --> 00:26:00.920
<v Speaker 2>I saw this black It looked like a tree snapped off,

458
00:26:02.480 --> 00:26:07.559
<v Speaker 2>you know, like a like a burnt stob a ten

459
00:26:07.559 --> 00:26:10.359
<v Speaker 2>foot tall or something way up there, like a like

460
00:26:10.440 --> 00:26:16.000
<v Speaker 2>a the tall guy. I couldn't it never moved, I

461
00:26:16.039 --> 00:26:19.160
<v Speaker 2>never could make out what it was, and I left

462
00:26:19.160 --> 00:26:21.160
<v Speaker 2>at it as soon as I could, assumed like I

463
00:26:21.200 --> 00:26:25.599
<v Speaker 2>feel dead, but I could. I could feel that weird

464
00:26:25.680 --> 00:26:28.920
<v Speaker 2>feeling was coming from there. It was just like a

465
00:26:28.960 --> 00:26:32.640
<v Speaker 2>beam of light coming on me, just like it was

466
00:26:32.720 --> 00:26:36.160
<v Speaker 2>focused on me. It wasn't like, uh, you need to

467
00:26:36.240 --> 00:26:37.960
<v Speaker 2>leave or I hate you or anything, or just like

468
00:26:38.039 --> 00:26:40.039
<v Speaker 2>intense scrutiny feeling.

469
00:26:41.960 --> 00:26:44.480
<v Speaker 1>Like that feeling a dread or do you mean.

470
00:26:44.400 --> 00:26:48.559
<v Speaker 2>Like you could you imagine if a giant was standing

471
00:26:48.559 --> 00:26:50.440
<v Speaker 2>over you, looking down at you, and you're feeling kind

472
00:26:50.440 --> 00:26:53.559
<v Speaker 2>of like, what's gonna happen? Now? This is not good

473
00:26:53.640 --> 00:26:56.680
<v Speaker 2>and what's gonna happen? Kind of a feeling, you know,

474
00:26:56.759 --> 00:26:59.200
<v Speaker 2>but not like any kind of a thread or anything,

475
00:26:59.279 --> 00:27:05.599
<v Speaker 2>just like being stared down like like see, well, I

476
00:27:05.720 --> 00:27:07.079
<v Speaker 2>guess you could say it was kind of like it's

477
00:27:07.240 --> 00:27:09.200
<v Speaker 2>because it was kind of like the feeling of a predator,

478
00:27:09.359 --> 00:27:15.799
<v Speaker 2>you know. Yeah, but it never moved, never moved, and

479
00:27:16.880 --> 00:27:19.240
<v Speaker 2>but I could it just seemed like it was coming

480
00:27:19.240 --> 00:27:21.720
<v Speaker 2>from right there. I don't know how I could know that,

481
00:27:22.240 --> 00:27:23.359
<v Speaker 2>but it just seemed.

482
00:27:23.359 --> 00:27:26.720
<v Speaker 1>Like that, Yeah, for sure. I mean, the woods should

483
00:27:26.759 --> 00:27:32.000
<v Speaker 1>feel I don't know, vast and just like a yeah, peaceful,

484
00:27:32.319 --> 00:27:34.240
<v Speaker 1>but when these things are around, you just kind of

485
00:27:34.279 --> 00:27:37.400
<v Speaker 1>feel like closed, like I don't know, like you're closed in,

486
00:27:38.079 --> 00:27:41.240
<v Speaker 1>like the pressure changes and like you're being watched. It's

487
00:27:41.279 --> 00:27:42.640
<v Speaker 1>just a strange, spooky feeling.

488
00:27:43.359 --> 00:27:46.319
<v Speaker 2>Well, kind of like you're trespassing and you're going to

489
00:27:46.400 --> 00:27:48.240
<v Speaker 2>get in trouble if you get if you don't leave.

490
00:27:48.640 --> 00:27:51.240
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, yeah, exactly like, Oh, I'm going.

491
00:27:51.240 --> 00:27:53.119
<v Speaker 2>To get trouble. I got to get out of here.

492
00:27:53.799 --> 00:27:55.240
<v Speaker 1>Mm hmm. Yeah.

493
00:27:55.240 --> 00:27:56.079
<v Speaker 2>I feel.

494
00:27:57.599 --> 00:27:59.920
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, like you're somewhere you shouldn't be.

495
00:28:02.279 --> 00:28:05.440
<v Speaker 2>Well, like I don't know how you'd explain it, just

496
00:28:05.559 --> 00:28:10.000
<v Speaker 2>kind of like it's time to go. You know, this

497
00:28:10.119 --> 00:28:10.519
<v Speaker 2>is weird.

498
00:28:11.880 --> 00:28:13.720
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, absolutely, well.

499
00:28:13.799 --> 00:28:16.880
<v Speaker 2>I got another one for you. When I was logging

500
00:28:16.920 --> 00:28:21.640
<v Speaker 2>down there, way before I had the experiences in logging

501
00:28:21.640 --> 00:28:25.480
<v Speaker 2>camp in the Sierras. I was logging oh closer to

502
00:28:25.559 --> 00:28:29.319
<v Speaker 2>Reno in the Sierras, and me and another guy were

503
00:28:29.319 --> 00:28:32.319
<v Speaker 2>standing in the trailer park because they were working way

504
00:28:32.319 --> 00:28:36.720
<v Speaker 2>out of town. And one night where there's a hail

505
00:28:36.720 --> 00:28:38.480
<v Speaker 2>there in the little town, we're standing and we grove

506
00:28:38.559 --> 00:28:40.519
<v Speaker 2>up on top of that hill. Was drinking the beer,

507
00:28:41.119 --> 00:28:43.799
<v Speaker 2>looking at the town lights and just sitting there, and

508
00:28:43.839 --> 00:28:46.440
<v Speaker 2>I got out to take a leak in this weird

509
00:28:46.480 --> 00:28:49.960
<v Speaker 2>feeling came over me like a magnet, like giant magnet

510
00:28:50.000 --> 00:28:52.720
<v Speaker 2>or sinking in My hair was all standing up and

511
00:28:52.759 --> 00:28:55.279
<v Speaker 2>I looked up and this black triangle went over us

512
00:28:55.400 --> 00:29:00.000
<v Speaker 2>like three miles an hour, and you don't have anything

513
00:29:00.160 --> 00:29:02.440
<v Speaker 2>to judge size by up in the sky, you know,

514
00:29:03.440 --> 00:29:05.559
<v Speaker 2>But I got the feeling. The thing was like two

515
00:29:05.599 --> 00:29:09.000
<v Speaker 2>hundred feet from corner to corner, and in each corner

516
00:29:09.079 --> 00:29:13.720
<v Speaker 2>had an orb of light. It wasn't real bright, and

517
00:29:13.839 --> 00:29:15.759
<v Speaker 2>it just blocked out the stars as it went over.

518
00:29:15.839 --> 00:29:17.240
<v Speaker 2>I told the guy with me, I says, get out

519
00:29:17.279 --> 00:29:21.079
<v Speaker 2>here and look at this. Whow we looked at it

520
00:29:21.200 --> 00:29:23.640
<v Speaker 2>when you got in the car and burn Rubber got

521
00:29:23.680 --> 00:29:26.400
<v Speaker 2>out of there and talk to him last year. He

522
00:29:26.400 --> 00:29:30.079
<v Speaker 2>doesn't remember it at all. And this was back in

523
00:29:30.119 --> 00:29:30.759
<v Speaker 2>seventy eight.

524
00:29:31.319 --> 00:29:36.119
<v Speaker 1>Wow. Yeah, that's interesting. I've seen the black I've seen

525
00:29:36.160 --> 00:29:38.960
<v Speaker 1>it before. It's definitely a strange feeling when it hovers

526
00:29:39.000 --> 00:29:42.400
<v Speaker 1>over you. And yeah, like you said, it had a

527
00:29:42.440 --> 00:29:46.960
<v Speaker 1>bright light on each side of the triangle. I like,

528
00:29:47.160 --> 00:29:50.559
<v Speaker 1>I remember the back right light. It was brighter than

529
00:29:50.599 --> 00:29:51.240
<v Speaker 1>the other two.

530
00:29:51.640 --> 00:29:55.640
<v Speaker 2>I don't know why, Well, who knows what's going on?

531
00:29:55.920 --> 00:29:59.039
<v Speaker 2>You know, what kind of propulsion or you know why

532
00:29:59.039 --> 00:30:01.119
<v Speaker 2>did they what? You know, the drones on the East coast,

533
00:30:01.119 --> 00:30:03.160
<v Speaker 2>they didn't see them. I've got all kinds of like

534
00:30:03.240 --> 00:30:06.839
<v Speaker 2>flashing lights and clearance lights and stuff that seems ceiling,

535
00:30:07.599 --> 00:30:11.359
<v Speaker 2>but it's not they can tell. It's not, like, why

536
00:30:11.400 --> 00:30:14.279
<v Speaker 2>do they need that? Well, who knows?

537
00:30:14.960 --> 00:30:20.119
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, for sure, people say that the triangle is manufactured

538
00:30:20.160 --> 00:30:23.119
<v Speaker 1>by I can't remember the name, like Lockheed skunk Works.

539
00:30:23.119 --> 00:30:25.640
<v Speaker 1>I can't. I don't know the exact dame. But it

540
00:30:25.680 --> 00:30:28.720
<v Speaker 1>could be I'm not really sure. It seems alien, but

541
00:30:28.799 --> 00:30:31.480
<v Speaker 1>it could be just a government secret.

542
00:30:31.880 --> 00:30:34.119
<v Speaker 2>Well, the one that I saw, I'll bet you if

543
00:30:34.119 --> 00:30:36.720
<v Speaker 2>it was flying at hyper speed, it could be at

544
00:30:36.759 --> 00:30:41.160
<v Speaker 2>area fifty one in a minute, because that's not too

545
00:30:41.240 --> 00:30:44.079
<v Speaker 2>far from where I was working, you know, air miles.

546
00:30:46.079 --> 00:30:49.279
<v Speaker 2>So I always figured it's probably the government, you know.

547
00:30:50.319 --> 00:30:53.000
<v Speaker 2>Oh yeah, but it was silent. It was silent, and

548
00:30:53.039 --> 00:30:56.759
<v Speaker 2>it was almost just hovering and went right over the

549
00:30:56.759 --> 00:30:57.839
<v Speaker 2>top of us.

550
00:30:59.279 --> 00:31:03.359
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I've heard reports where the ground just opened up

551
00:31:03.440 --> 00:31:07.160
<v Speaker 1>and one of these ships came out. And I believe

552
00:31:07.200 --> 00:31:09.839
<v Speaker 1>that because they have those giant bridges that they can

553
00:31:09.920 --> 00:31:12.799
<v Speaker 1>lift up and like let huge boats go by. So

554
00:31:12.839 --> 00:31:14.880
<v Speaker 1>why wouldn't they be able to do that with the ground.

555
00:31:16.799 --> 00:31:19.200
<v Speaker 2>Well, I don't know. I've seen video of a UFO

556
00:31:19.279 --> 00:31:23.559
<v Speaker 2>that flew right into the side of a volcano, just

557
00:31:23.599 --> 00:31:28.079
<v Speaker 2>blended with the mountain and went right in now is

558
00:31:28.119 --> 00:31:31.119
<v Speaker 2>there a hologram over the front of a big hole

559
00:31:31.160 --> 00:31:34.759
<v Speaker 2>inside the mountain? Who knows?

560
00:31:35.880 --> 00:31:36.359
<v Speaker 1>Yeah?

561
00:31:36.400 --> 00:31:39.200
<v Speaker 2>What we what we learn over the years. Hearing other

562
00:31:39.279 --> 00:31:41.400
<v Speaker 2>people talk about what they've seen is just a drop

563
00:31:41.400 --> 00:31:45.200
<v Speaker 2>in a bucket of you know, compared to what the

564
00:31:45.240 --> 00:31:49.359
<v Speaker 2>truth is about all this. Yeah, And I don't think

565
00:31:49.359 --> 00:31:51.119
<v Speaker 2>the I don't. I don't think the government wants to

566
00:31:51.119 --> 00:31:55.920
<v Speaker 2>get our our minds around what's really happening because it

567
00:31:56.039 --> 00:31:57.880
<v Speaker 2>keeps us weak to be ignorant.

568
00:31:59.279 --> 00:32:01.599
<v Speaker 1>Yeah. I agree. There's a lot of theories that we

569
00:32:01.640 --> 00:32:05.519
<v Speaker 1>can come up with to explain the unknown, and the

570
00:32:05.599 --> 00:32:08.319
<v Speaker 1>list can just keep going on and on, especially if

571
00:32:08.319 --> 00:32:13.720
<v Speaker 1>you're talking about something being inter dimensional portals, a hologram, aliens,

572
00:32:13.759 --> 00:32:17.039
<v Speaker 1>government technology. It's like there's just so many questions that

573
00:32:17.119 --> 00:32:19.640
<v Speaker 1>lead to so many different rabbit holes.

574
00:32:21.000 --> 00:32:22.640
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, but I think it's all related.

575
00:32:23.880 --> 00:32:27.960
<v Speaker 1>I think so too. So what other Bigfoot experiences have

576
00:32:28.039 --> 00:32:28.440
<v Speaker 1>you had?

577
00:32:32.079 --> 00:32:35.200
<v Speaker 2>Uh, that's pretty much it that I can recall now.

578
00:32:35.240 --> 00:32:39.319
<v Speaker 2>I know for a fact there's been other times something

579
00:32:39.319 --> 00:32:42.759
<v Speaker 2>weird was going on and I just don't remember it. Like, well,

580
00:32:42.799 --> 00:32:47.200
<v Speaker 2>one thing that happened, how about four winters ago, I

581
00:32:47.240 --> 00:32:51.599
<v Speaker 2>was skidding trees out of a place where the corner

582
00:32:51.680 --> 00:32:54.279
<v Speaker 2>of the property went up. You know, we were taking

583
00:32:54.279 --> 00:32:58.200
<v Speaker 2>most of the trees off this property, and the back

584
00:32:58.200 --> 00:33:00.480
<v Speaker 2>of the corner of the property went up to started

585
00:33:00.480 --> 00:33:03.680
<v Speaker 2>climbing up hill as it became the corner, and there

586
00:33:03.720 --> 00:33:06.279
<v Speaker 2>was a real thick timber there. And I'm in a

587
00:33:06.319 --> 00:33:09.200
<v Speaker 2>skidter with a you know, enclosed cab and heater blowing

588
00:33:09.240 --> 00:33:12.880
<v Speaker 2>and everything, and I start smelling ammonia as I get

589
00:33:12.920 --> 00:33:16.079
<v Speaker 2>over by that corner, I'm like, whoa that stink? What

590
00:33:16.359 --> 00:33:18.559
<v Speaker 2>is that? I know it's not the machine. There's nothing

591
00:33:18.599 --> 00:33:21.559
<v Speaker 2>the machine that's going to smell like that. And I

592
00:33:21.640 --> 00:33:25.200
<v Speaker 2>kind of got to heb gbs, like hmm, there's something

593
00:33:25.279 --> 00:33:28.400
<v Speaker 2>that's timber over here. I'm just gonna grab what this

594
00:33:28.480 --> 00:33:30.880
<v Speaker 2>wood and get out of here. And that was just,

595
00:33:31.000 --> 00:33:32.640
<v Speaker 2>you know, just seconds.

596
00:33:35.000 --> 00:33:35.200
<v Speaker 1>Yeah.

597
00:33:35.559 --> 00:33:37.720
<v Speaker 2>How many times it's something like how many times is

598
00:33:37.759 --> 00:33:41.839
<v Speaker 2>something like that happened to you? And you never question it?

599
00:33:41.880 --> 00:33:44.000
<v Speaker 2>You're just like, oh that I gotta go, or that's weird,

600
00:33:44.039 --> 00:33:45.880
<v Speaker 2>or never think of it again.

601
00:33:48.279 --> 00:33:51.799
<v Speaker 1>Yeah. Absolutely. Do you feel like there's a correlation with

602
00:33:52.119 --> 00:33:55.279
<v Speaker 1>the logging that was done and these creatures following you,

603
00:33:55.440 --> 00:33:56.839
<v Speaker 1>like maybe you tick them off?

604
00:33:59.880 --> 00:34:03.200
<v Speaker 2>I think that they don't like it. Well, you know,

605
00:34:04.119 --> 00:34:06.359
<v Speaker 2>it's not the logger's fault. The guy that owns the

606
00:34:06.440 --> 00:34:08.719
<v Speaker 2>land is telling the forest or what he wants done,

607
00:34:08.760 --> 00:34:10.920
<v Speaker 2>and the forester tells the logger and then we do it.

608
00:34:10.960 --> 00:34:13.559
<v Speaker 2>But you know, the big butt don't know that. I'm

609
00:34:13.599 --> 00:34:15.079
<v Speaker 2>sure nobody's telling them.

610
00:34:16.360 --> 00:34:19.719
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, absolutely, I'm sure it makes them upset when people

611
00:34:19.719 --> 00:34:23.480
<v Speaker 1>are cutting down trees. And I've also heard on Skinwalker

612
00:34:23.559 --> 00:34:26.800
<v Speaker 1>Ranch that when they start digging, things start happening.

613
00:34:28.559 --> 00:34:32.079
<v Speaker 2>Right. Well, some of the stuff I've heard in the

614
00:34:32.119 --> 00:34:37.599
<v Speaker 2>last year leads me to believe that they can go underground,

615
00:34:37.599 --> 00:34:40.480
<v Speaker 2>whether there's a tunnel or not. And they spend a

616
00:34:40.519 --> 00:34:44.039
<v Speaker 2>lot of time in caves. They have a way to

617
00:34:44.519 --> 00:34:50.119
<v Speaker 2>go underground, either to become an energy orb. I've seen

618
00:34:50.199 --> 00:34:52.559
<v Speaker 2>videos where they hide behind a tree that was you know,

619
00:34:52.599 --> 00:34:56.119
<v Speaker 2>you take an animal or the creature that's three or

620
00:34:56.119 --> 00:34:58.760
<v Speaker 2>four feet wide and hides behind the Tannin's tree and disappears.

621
00:35:00.559 --> 00:35:01.159
<v Speaker 2>Where did he go?

622
00:35:02.719 --> 00:35:06.000
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I've personally witnessed that with the juvenile and I've

623
00:35:06.039 --> 00:35:09.159
<v Speaker 1>heard other people talk about that, like a like a

624
00:35:09.199 --> 00:35:11.800
<v Speaker 1>sasquatch that's four and a half feet wide, go behind

625
00:35:11.960 --> 00:35:14.960
<v Speaker 1>like a ten inch tree and it just disappears.

626
00:35:16.480 --> 00:35:22.440
<v Speaker 2>It's impossible to us. But I think that they can

627
00:35:22.480 --> 00:35:26.199
<v Speaker 2>do the impossible. I think there's the stuff that we

628
00:35:26.320 --> 00:35:28.920
<v Speaker 2>would never believe if if we saw, you know, unless

629
00:35:28.960 --> 00:35:34.639
<v Speaker 2>we saw it. Just crazy stuff. That's what across the

630
00:35:34.719 --> 00:35:38.360
<v Speaker 2>river here ten years ago, No, it must have been

631
00:35:38.480 --> 00:35:41.119
<v Speaker 2>no longer than that, probably closer to twenty years ago.

632
00:35:42.079 --> 00:35:45.800
<v Speaker 2>I was living across the river over there, and I

633
00:35:45.840 --> 00:35:48.320
<v Speaker 2>walked outside it like three in the morning, and I

634
00:35:48.400 --> 00:35:52.400
<v Speaker 2>looked up and there's this big orange orb. You know

635
00:35:52.480 --> 00:35:55.719
<v Speaker 2>those orange dinner plates that are clear glass and see

636
00:35:55.800 --> 00:36:00.719
<v Speaker 2>right through them. It looked like one of those, and

637
00:36:01.480 --> 00:36:04.440
<v Speaker 2>inside of it was another one just like it, but smaller,

638
00:36:04.559 --> 00:36:06.840
<v Speaker 2>and inside of that it looked like a filament in

639
00:36:06.880 --> 00:36:09.920
<v Speaker 2>a light bulb, you know, the non frosted light bulb

640
00:36:09.920 --> 00:36:11.519
<v Speaker 2>where you can see right through and see a filament.

641
00:36:11.760 --> 00:36:14.280
<v Speaker 2>It looked like a glowing filament inside of it. I

642
00:36:14.360 --> 00:36:16.519
<v Speaker 2>looked up at it and I said, what are you

643
00:36:16.599 --> 00:36:19.119
<v Speaker 2>looking at? And it was gone up into space, just

644
00:36:19.559 --> 00:36:22.920
<v Speaker 2>you know, like a faster than a rocket gone.

645
00:36:24.280 --> 00:36:27.280
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I've experienced that as well. Definitely makes you wonder.

646
00:36:27.320 --> 00:36:28.559
<v Speaker 1>And they seem intelligent.

647
00:36:30.079 --> 00:36:34.039
<v Speaker 2>Well, the intelligence is obvious, you know, and there's got

648
00:36:34.119 --> 00:36:35.760
<v Speaker 2>to be a reason why they're there. They got to

649
00:36:35.760 --> 00:36:38.360
<v Speaker 2>be looking at something or somebody.

650
00:36:40.760 --> 00:36:44.960
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I agree. And the one that was going through

651
00:36:45.000 --> 00:36:48.159
<v Speaker 1>the trash can, you mentioned that it was like fishing line,

652
00:36:48.199 --> 00:36:50.840
<v Speaker 1>like you could see through it was that just it

653
00:36:50.840 --> 00:36:53.880
<v Speaker 1>was weird. The for the entire creature in general.

654
00:36:54.960 --> 00:36:57.400
<v Speaker 2>All I could see was a great big blob of hair,

655
00:36:59.440 --> 00:37:02.239
<v Speaker 2>just huge, huge mass of hair, and it looked like

656
00:37:02.280 --> 00:37:06.000
<v Speaker 2>six inches long and clean and almost see through. It

657
00:37:06.000 --> 00:37:10.960
<v Speaker 2>had a weird look to it. Yeah, that's what made me,

658
00:37:11.039 --> 00:37:13.559
<v Speaker 2>you know, think of monofilament, because it looked like something

659
00:37:13.760 --> 00:37:17.320
<v Speaker 2>you can see through monofilament, but it was black. You know.

660
00:37:19.159 --> 00:37:21.679
<v Speaker 1>Could you make out any features on the creature, like

661
00:37:21.840 --> 00:37:24.320
<v Speaker 1>how tall it was or how much it weighed? I mean,

662
00:37:24.360 --> 00:37:25.760
<v Speaker 1>obviously you don't know that without.

663
00:37:25.599 --> 00:37:33.239
<v Speaker 2>Way, Well I could guess it probably weighed eight pounds,

664
00:37:34.239 --> 00:37:37.360
<v Speaker 2>you know, as much as a medium horse. It's a

665
00:37:37.360 --> 00:37:41.960
<v Speaker 2>pretty big big thing. But it jumped like a frog gone.

666
00:37:42.800 --> 00:37:46.280
<v Speaker 2>And the trash can was brand new, I mean brand new,

667
00:37:46.280 --> 00:37:48.039
<v Speaker 2>and the first time I'd ever put anything in it.

668
00:37:48.559 --> 00:37:50.880
<v Speaker 2>I tired it shut with twined. The twine was untied,

669
00:37:50.920 --> 00:37:54.119
<v Speaker 2>it wasn't ripped, it wasn't a scratch on that trash

670
00:37:54.159 --> 00:37:55.760
<v Speaker 2>can or toothmark at all.

671
00:37:58.840 --> 00:38:01.320
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, that sounds bigger than a juvenile to mean, that's

672
00:38:01.480 --> 00:38:03.440
<v Speaker 1>that's possibly an adult there.

673
00:38:04.480 --> 00:38:07.159
<v Speaker 2>Well, the way it was folded up, who knows, because

674
00:38:07.360 --> 00:38:11.079
<v Speaker 2>it had to be doubled up to look like that.

675
00:38:11.239 --> 00:38:16.239
<v Speaker 2>You know, are you have seen at least defeat? It

676
00:38:16.320 --> 00:38:20.320
<v Speaker 2>was weird, very weird, unusual because nobody I've never heard

677
00:38:20.320 --> 00:38:23.000
<v Speaker 2>anybody say they saw a big ball of hair go

678
00:38:23.119 --> 00:38:23.920
<v Speaker 2>flying like that.

679
00:38:25.079 --> 00:38:28.559
<v Speaker 1>Yeah. Absolutely, It blows my mind how intelligent they are.

680
00:38:28.559 --> 00:38:31.119
<v Speaker 1>But yet they'll dig through our trash cans.

681
00:38:33.039 --> 00:38:35.000
<v Speaker 2>Well we have something they want, I guess.

682
00:38:36.360 --> 00:38:37.480
<v Speaker 1>Yeah. Absolutely.

683
00:38:37.960 --> 00:38:39.880
<v Speaker 2>You've heard of the one getting in the grease pit

684
00:38:39.960 --> 00:38:41.519
<v Speaker 2>at casino in Oklahoma.

685
00:38:42.679 --> 00:38:43.519
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I've heard that.

686
00:38:43.840 --> 00:38:48.320
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, yeah, Well I and people say they cloak. They've

687
00:38:48.320 --> 00:38:50.760
<v Speaker 2>seen them do it, and they've asked them and they

688
00:38:51.239 --> 00:38:55.320
<v Speaker 2>reply in mind speak, yeah, we cloak and we shake shift.

689
00:38:57.719 --> 00:38:59.840
<v Speaker 1>Have you had? Oh, go ahead?

690
00:39:00.760 --> 00:39:03.039
<v Speaker 2>Why couldn't they become a raven and fly to town,

691
00:39:03.360 --> 00:39:06.079
<v Speaker 2>pick something up at McDonald's park a lot, eat it

692
00:39:06.079 --> 00:39:06.719
<v Speaker 2>and fly away.

693
00:39:08.639 --> 00:39:10.199
<v Speaker 1>That's what you think about.

694
00:39:10.760 --> 00:39:13.000
<v Speaker 2>You have birds coming around like that. Maybe it's one

695
00:39:13.039 --> 00:39:19.920
<v Speaker 2>of them, So I don't I don't know, about reality anymore.

696
00:39:20.079 --> 00:39:22.239
<v Speaker 2>You know, there's just a lot of stuff that you

697
00:39:22.320 --> 00:39:24.199
<v Speaker 2>might think it's real and it's really something else that

698
00:39:24.280 --> 00:39:27.159
<v Speaker 2>you're you're you're being made to think it's something else.

699
00:39:28.199 --> 00:39:31.239
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I definitely think that's possible. The Native Americans talked

700
00:39:31.239 --> 00:39:36.679
<v Speaker 1>about shape shape shifters, and I definitely think there's something

701
00:39:36.719 --> 00:39:40.159
<v Speaker 1>going on there. There was a guy on a Flash

702
00:39:40.159 --> 00:39:43.280
<v Speaker 1>of Beauty that said the Bigfoot turned into a deer,

703
00:39:43.800 --> 00:39:44.840
<v Speaker 1>so who knows.

704
00:39:45.639 --> 00:39:47.800
<v Speaker 2>Well, there's one of those guys, you know, the two

705
00:39:47.840 --> 00:39:51.559
<v Speaker 2>guys that were they saw that one turned the ball

706
00:39:51.599 --> 00:39:54.960
<v Speaker 2>of energyans it the way it was it was an elk,

707
00:39:56.239 --> 00:39:58.519
<v Speaker 2>and then it shrunk down and it turned into a

708
00:39:58.559 --> 00:40:03.800
<v Speaker 2>big orange orb and fluck flew away. Yeah, that's that

709
00:40:03.880 --> 00:40:05.480
<v Speaker 2>was on the Flash of Beauty.

710
00:40:05.920 --> 00:40:08.639
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, it makes you wonder though. I've had instances where

711
00:40:08.679 --> 00:40:10.840
<v Speaker 1>I'd be out there deer hunting and I'd be looking

712
00:40:10.920 --> 00:40:13.760
<v Speaker 1>all through the woods and I'd already been sitting out

713
00:40:13.800 --> 00:40:15.800
<v Speaker 1>there for hours, and as soon as I've been down

714
00:40:16.159 --> 00:40:17.960
<v Speaker 1>to get something out of my bag, I look up

715
00:40:18.000 --> 00:40:19.519
<v Speaker 1>and there's a deer standing right in front of me

716
00:40:19.599 --> 00:40:21.920
<v Speaker 1>looking at me. I'm like, what the heck, where did

717
00:40:21.920 --> 00:40:22.320
<v Speaker 1>that think?

718
00:40:22.559 --> 00:40:25.400
<v Speaker 2>Yeah? Yeah, you've heard the one on the Flash of

719
00:40:25.400 --> 00:40:28.119
<v Speaker 2>Beauty that was the white deer was Randy.

720
00:40:28.880 --> 00:40:30.480
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I've heard that one.

721
00:40:31.039 --> 00:40:34.960
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, that was that was definitely a big foot that

722
00:40:35.119 --> 00:40:35.840
<v Speaker 2>turned into a deer.

723
00:40:35.880 --> 00:40:40.719
<v Speaker 1>I'd say, yeah, for sure. And for him to go

724
00:40:40.800 --> 00:40:44.119
<v Speaker 1>on TV and say that, you know, he has to

725
00:40:44.159 --> 00:40:46.880
<v Speaker 1>be pretty sure of what he what he encountered.

726
00:40:48.000 --> 00:40:51.280
<v Speaker 2>But what what would be your motive to go and

727
00:40:51.320 --> 00:40:53.719
<v Speaker 2>say something that's going to prove you're crazy?

728
00:40:55.079 --> 00:40:57.960
<v Speaker 1>Yeah? Absolutely. It's one thing going on TV and saying

729
00:40:57.960 --> 00:40:59.760
<v Speaker 1>you saw a big foot, that saying it turned into

730
00:40:59.800 --> 00:41:03.840
<v Speaker 1>an animal, like right, you know if you really saw that.

731
00:41:03.920 --> 00:41:05.559
<v Speaker 1>I mean I feel like you would. You're like, I'm

732
00:41:05.559 --> 00:41:08.280
<v Speaker 1>going to tell everyone and this is the truth, and

733
00:41:08.559 --> 00:41:10.119
<v Speaker 1>that seems to be what he did.

734
00:41:11.280 --> 00:41:13.400
<v Speaker 2>Yeah. I'm the same way. If I see something, I'm

735
00:41:13.400 --> 00:41:14.719
<v Speaker 2>going to say it like I see it.

736
00:41:16.039 --> 00:41:17.400
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, especially.

737
00:41:18.559 --> 00:41:20.719
<v Speaker 2>Too bad. Well, you got to warn people if you

738
00:41:20.760 --> 00:41:22.840
<v Speaker 2>think it's something that could hurt them.

739
00:41:23.760 --> 00:41:25.920
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I mean, if someone saw something like that, I

740
00:41:25.920 --> 00:41:27.000
<v Speaker 1>would hope they would tell me.

741
00:41:29.639 --> 00:41:31.840
<v Speaker 2>Well, I guarantee you there's people that haven't killed you

742
00:41:31.840 --> 00:41:35.039
<v Speaker 2>a lot of things through your life from go oh yeah,

743
00:41:35.079 --> 00:41:37.760
<v Speaker 2>they they don't want you, they don't want to cause

744
00:41:37.760 --> 00:41:41.000
<v Speaker 2>any problems, or they don't want to cause people to

745
00:41:41.039 --> 00:41:44.280
<v Speaker 2>think they're nuts, or you know, it's a lot of

746
00:41:44.280 --> 00:41:46.880
<v Speaker 2>times it's better to keep your mouth shut and let

747
00:41:46.920 --> 00:41:48.280
<v Speaker 2>everybody think things are normal.

748
00:41:49.280 --> 00:41:51.639
<v Speaker 1>Oh yeah, there's a lot of people out there who

749
00:41:51.719 --> 00:41:55.440
<v Speaker 1>have probably spoke to someone that had seen one of

750
00:41:55.480 --> 00:41:58.639
<v Speaker 1>these creatures, and they are not going to tell anyone.

751
00:41:58.800 --> 00:42:00.800
<v Speaker 1>So was just how it is.

752
00:42:01.840 --> 00:42:05.280
<v Speaker 2>I was looking to buy a skitter online here I

753
00:42:05.280 --> 00:42:08.119
<v Speaker 2>don't know, ten twelve years ago, and a guy over

754
00:42:08.159 --> 00:42:10.800
<v Speaker 2>on the Oregon coast had one like I ended up

755
00:42:10.800 --> 00:42:14.239
<v Speaker 2>buying one just like it, and he had the skitterer

756
00:42:14.239 --> 00:42:17.280
<v Speaker 2>for sale. I get to talking to him about, you know,

757
00:42:17.360 --> 00:42:19.440
<v Speaker 2>have you ever seen any big foots? And he says, oh, yeah,

758
00:42:19.440 --> 00:42:22.159
<v Speaker 2>we were. We were out hunting puns one night and

759
00:42:22.199 --> 00:42:25.039
<v Speaker 2>there was one standing in the bushes looking at us.

760
00:42:26.199 --> 00:42:28.960
<v Speaker 2>And he didn't he didn't go into you know, what

761
00:42:29.119 --> 00:42:30.760
<v Speaker 2>all went on, but he said the thing had a

762
00:42:30.800 --> 00:42:33.480
<v Speaker 2>head as big as a five gallon bucket and red

763
00:42:33.559 --> 00:42:38.400
<v Speaker 2>glowing eyes. That reminds me I was going to work,

764
00:42:38.880 --> 00:42:43.320
<v Speaker 2>you know, way before daylight, oh six eight years ago,

765
00:42:44.760 --> 00:42:48.760
<v Speaker 2>going over mountain passing. I'm halfway up the mountain and

766
00:42:48.840 --> 00:42:51.760
<v Speaker 2>taking the corner to the right, and this thing is

767
00:42:52.400 --> 00:42:54.320
<v Speaker 2>if i'd went straight out, I ran into it if

768
00:42:54.360 --> 00:42:57.480
<v Speaker 2>it didn't move, because it's a curve, and then if

769
00:42:57.480 --> 00:42:59.840
<v Speaker 2>it goes it's an embankment. You'd go down over them

770
00:43:00.320 --> 00:43:03.199
<v Speaker 2>if you went straight and there's no glugrail. And this thing,

771
00:43:05.159 --> 00:43:08.119
<v Speaker 2>it was down over the hill aways and its head

772
00:43:08.199 --> 00:43:11.320
<v Speaker 2>was sticking up above the pavement and it had eyeballs,

773
00:43:12.800 --> 00:43:16.719
<v Speaker 2>I don't know, biggest tennis balls that were glowing orange

774
00:43:17.079 --> 00:43:19.159
<v Speaker 2>and looking right at me when they went around a corner.

775
00:43:19.840 --> 00:43:22.000
<v Speaker 2>And as I started going around the corner to the

776
00:43:22.079 --> 00:43:24.519
<v Speaker 2>right and my lights got off of it, it turned

777
00:43:24.519 --> 00:43:28.840
<v Speaker 2>its head and looked to my left and ran and

778
00:43:28.920 --> 00:43:33.639
<v Speaker 2>I saw those orange eyes as a streak really fast

779
00:43:33.679 --> 00:43:38.119
<v Speaker 2>to the left, so they weren't reflecting my light. They

780
00:43:38.119 --> 00:43:40.960
<v Speaker 2>were self illuminated because my lights got off of them,

781
00:43:41.679 --> 00:43:44.079
<v Speaker 2>and I just saw orange streaks running off through the

782
00:43:44.079 --> 00:43:50.159
<v Speaker 2>woods and they were really far apart. I don't think

783
00:43:50.199 --> 00:43:52.199
<v Speaker 2>I could touch both of them with one hand at

784
00:43:52.239 --> 00:43:59.400
<v Speaker 2>the same time, but they were wide set. Yeah, stuff

785
00:43:59.440 --> 00:44:02.280
<v Speaker 2>like that. Stuff like that, it's hard to remember, you know.

786
00:44:04.360 --> 00:44:09.840
<v Speaker 1>And have you experienced mind speak or these creatures projecting

787
00:44:09.840 --> 00:44:12.840
<v Speaker 1>any thoughts or getting into your dreams anything like that.

788
00:44:14.559 --> 00:44:19.239
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, last year I was dreaming something. I don't know

789
00:44:19.239 --> 00:44:22.519
<v Speaker 2>what it was because the dream was insignificant and I

790
00:44:22.559 --> 00:44:25.400
<v Speaker 2>don't remember it. But in the middle of my dream,

791
00:44:25.440 --> 00:44:27.719
<v Speaker 2>I'm in my dream, I'm sitting in my chair looking

792
00:44:27.760 --> 00:44:32.480
<v Speaker 2>out the window, and this this male bigfoot he's like

793
00:44:33.400 --> 00:44:37.519
<v Speaker 2>ten foot tall and jet black and just massively built.

794
00:44:37.760 --> 00:44:41.000
<v Speaker 2>And then another one that's like cocoa brown. It's a

795
00:44:41.000 --> 00:44:44.599
<v Speaker 2>couple of feet shorter. How think he had to be

796
00:44:44.800 --> 00:44:48.239
<v Speaker 2>nine or ten feet tall, easy, you know, big, taller

797
00:44:48.239 --> 00:44:52.039
<v Speaker 2>than my motor home. And the brown one was just

798
00:44:52.079 --> 00:44:55.239
<v Speaker 2>smiling like she just got the best, but she never

799
00:44:55.239 --> 00:44:57.719
<v Speaker 2>looked at me. And the big black one, he just

800
00:44:57.760 --> 00:44:59.800
<v Speaker 2>ignored me until he was almost past the window. Then

801
00:44:59.800 --> 00:45:02.880
<v Speaker 2>he's step and looked right in my eyes, and then

802
00:45:02.880 --> 00:45:05.039
<v Speaker 2>he turned and went. They both walked away and in

803
00:45:05.159 --> 00:45:10.079
<v Speaker 2>my dream resumed just like a commercial. In my dream, Look,

804
00:45:10.119 --> 00:45:12.880
<v Speaker 2>the dream stops and here's something inserted, and then the

805
00:45:12.960 --> 00:45:16.400
<v Speaker 2>dream went on. But I'll never remember that dream. I

806
00:45:16.440 --> 00:45:19.239
<v Speaker 2>forgot it already, but I'll never I'll never forget that

807
00:45:19.320 --> 00:45:20.960
<v Speaker 2>vision that I saw.

808
00:45:23.480 --> 00:45:27.599
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, that is interesting, and coco brown, that's a good description.

809
00:45:27.760 --> 00:45:31.719
<v Speaker 1>I've never heard anyone use that, And yeah, I think

810
00:45:31.800 --> 00:45:35.119
<v Speaker 1>that pretty well sums up the color. You mentioned that

811
00:45:35.199 --> 00:45:37.960
<v Speaker 1>these things screamed at you in the woods. What did

812
00:45:37.960 --> 00:45:40.440
<v Speaker 1>the scream sound like? And can you compare it to

813
00:45:40.480 --> 00:45:41.679
<v Speaker 1>anything else you've ever heard?

814
00:45:43.519 --> 00:45:47.159
<v Speaker 2>No, No, I've never heard anything screaming that kind of

815
00:45:47.159 --> 00:45:50.280
<v Speaker 2>pain and terror. It was horrible, like you would take

816
00:45:50.280 --> 00:45:52.599
<v Speaker 2>a woman and put a cutting torch and just cut

817
00:45:52.599 --> 00:45:54.679
<v Speaker 2>her arm off with it. It was just the most

818
00:45:55.320 --> 00:46:01.280
<v Speaker 2>blood curdling woman scream. And they sounded the same, the

819
00:46:01.320 --> 00:46:03.320
<v Speaker 2>one coming down the ravine and the one coming up

820
00:46:03.320 --> 00:46:06.760
<v Speaker 2>to vine. They sounded the same. And people are telling me, Oh,

821
00:46:06.840 --> 00:46:10.159
<v Speaker 2>that's just Kurtis. Why did they make all that wood?

822
00:46:10.199 --> 00:46:12.000
<v Speaker 2>Why did it come up to my window and screen?

823
00:46:14.119 --> 00:46:15.679
<v Speaker 2>Doesn't make sense, you know.

824
00:46:16.519 --> 00:46:18.960
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, that sounds terrific. And I can't imagine waking up

825
00:46:19.000 --> 00:46:19.199
<v Speaker 1>to that.

826
00:46:22.000 --> 00:46:25.599
<v Speaker 2>I don't know why it didn't scare me, because it

827
00:46:25.679 --> 00:46:29.400
<v Speaker 2>was horrible. It's like somebody's being murdered, for sure. But

828
00:46:29.679 --> 00:46:31.599
<v Speaker 2>I just got mad because it helped me up and

829
00:46:31.599 --> 00:46:35.480
<v Speaker 2>I just opened the door and Toil shut up. I

830
00:46:35.559 --> 00:46:41.559
<v Speaker 2>bet you don't hear that. Yeah, it sounds like, Oh,

831
00:46:41.599 --> 00:46:43.400
<v Speaker 2>I think they were really mad because we were logging

832
00:46:43.440 --> 00:46:46.400
<v Speaker 2>that place. We took out all the tall pine you know,

833
00:46:46.480 --> 00:46:49.840
<v Speaker 2>that was worth good money and probably ninety percent of

834
00:46:49.880 --> 00:46:53.719
<v Speaker 2>the timber because of that, And that place had been

835
00:46:53.760 --> 00:46:55.880
<v Speaker 2>gated for years. No one ever went in. There was

836
00:46:55.960 --> 00:46:59.199
<v Speaker 2>private property and the road was closed for a long time.

837
00:46:59.599 --> 00:47:05.239
<v Speaker 2>You know, nice, nice tall trees. I think we just

838
00:47:05.320 --> 00:47:07.840
<v Speaker 2>wrecked their camping area on the creek there.

839
00:47:09.119 --> 00:47:11.320
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, for sure, we had to hang out. Yeah, if

840
00:47:11.360 --> 00:47:13.760
<v Speaker 1>it was valuable to you guys, it was definitely val

841
00:47:14.119 --> 00:47:17.199
<v Speaker 1>valuable to the Sasquatch. And the big one that was

842
00:47:17.320 --> 00:47:20.000
<v Speaker 1>chasing you on the highway, why do you think it

843
00:47:20.039 --> 00:47:20.599
<v Speaker 1>was doing that?

844
00:47:23.960 --> 00:47:26.360
<v Speaker 2>I don't know. It's either one of those hold my

845
00:47:26.400 --> 00:47:28.519
<v Speaker 2>beer moments and what's what I do to this car?

846
00:47:28.719 --> 00:47:31.599
<v Speaker 2>Or it was revenge for what we were doing on

847
00:47:31.639 --> 00:47:34.639
<v Speaker 2>the property with a login. I don't know.

848
00:47:35.159 --> 00:47:37.920
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, purpose, did you hit the car or did you?

849
00:47:38.079 --> 00:47:42.199
<v Speaker 2>Oh? The thing? The thing? The thing targeted me. Man,

850
00:47:42.280 --> 00:47:44.840
<v Speaker 2>it was coming faster than I was driving fifty five

851
00:47:44.880 --> 00:47:49.880
<v Speaker 2>and it was going faster than that. Wow, they came

852
00:47:49.920 --> 00:47:53.639
<v Speaker 2>down the hillside. I mean I just just barely saw

853
00:47:53.679 --> 00:47:56.760
<v Speaker 2>it in my peripheral vision on my right, and as

854
00:47:56.800 --> 00:47:58.840
<v Speaker 2>it got closer, I'm like, this thing's going to hit me,

855
00:47:58.880 --> 00:48:00.760
<v Speaker 2>so I crossed the yellow line. I think it was

856
00:48:00.840 --> 00:48:04.119
<v Speaker 2>coming so fast, Miguel. I think if I hadn't seen it, it

857
00:48:04.039 --> 00:48:05.519
<v Speaker 2>would have ran across the road in front of me

858
00:48:05.559 --> 00:48:08.960
<v Speaker 2>and I wouldn't have hit it. But because I crossed

859
00:48:08.960 --> 00:48:12.159
<v Speaker 2>the yellow line, I hit it. I think I hit

860
00:48:12.159 --> 00:48:13.559
<v Speaker 2>it right and it left front shoulder.

861
00:48:15.599 --> 00:48:17.159
<v Speaker 1>Yeah that's scary.

862
00:48:17.199 --> 00:48:20.119
<v Speaker 2>Well, I didn't hit it because the front of the

863
00:48:20.119 --> 00:48:23.079
<v Speaker 2>car wasn't damn. It caved the fender in around the tire.

864
00:48:23.440 --> 00:48:28.000
<v Speaker 2>It hits side of the car and in its rear

865
00:48:28.119 --> 00:48:33.800
<v Speaker 2>end caved in the door and the door frame stopped

866
00:48:33.840 --> 00:48:37.599
<v Speaker 2>me cold, just like I hit a big old tree.

867
00:48:38.039 --> 00:48:40.760
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, you're lucky you didn't get hurt. And I wonder

868
00:48:40.880 --> 00:48:43.760
<v Speaker 1>what its intentions were, like if it purposely wanted you

869
00:48:43.800 --> 00:48:46.280
<v Speaker 1>to see him, or if it was all random.

870
00:48:47.880 --> 00:48:50.559
<v Speaker 2>It targeted me. I think it was either gonna show

871
00:48:50.559 --> 00:48:53.480
<v Speaker 2>itself to me by running in front of me, or

872
00:48:53.679 --> 00:48:58.000
<v Speaker 2>intended to hit me because I crossed over the yellow line.

873
00:48:58.840 --> 00:49:02.800
<v Speaker 2>I might have hit it just because of that. If

874
00:49:02.840 --> 00:49:04.679
<v Speaker 2>I'd have not seen it, it might have ran in

875
00:49:04.679 --> 00:49:06.559
<v Speaker 2>front of me and just I would have just seen

876
00:49:06.599 --> 00:49:09.840
<v Speaker 2>a big, hairy blur. But because I think because I

877
00:49:09.920 --> 00:49:11.719
<v Speaker 2>changed lanes. I think that's why I hit it.

878
00:49:14.480 --> 00:49:15.760
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, definitely, so.

879
00:49:15.719 --> 00:49:18.199
<v Speaker 2>I really I don't think it was trying to hit me,

880
00:49:18.320 --> 00:49:24.000
<v Speaker 2>but maybe maybe it's so fast. Nothing could run that fast.

881
00:49:24.000 --> 00:49:26.760
<v Speaker 2>There's nothing on earth can run that fast.

882
00:49:27.320 --> 00:49:29.599
<v Speaker 1>Yeah. And was the bigfoot on all fours or was

883
00:49:29.639 --> 00:49:30.679
<v Speaker 1>it running on two feet?

884
00:49:30.880 --> 00:49:33.840
<v Speaker 2>Okay, yeah, it was on all fours. Well, I could tell.

885
00:49:33.880 --> 00:49:36.639
<v Speaker 2>It was just looked like brown hair and four legs.

886
00:49:37.000 --> 00:49:39.360
<v Speaker 1>Yeah. I wonder if they can run faster on all

887
00:49:39.400 --> 00:49:41.239
<v Speaker 1>fours than on two.

888
00:49:41.119 --> 00:49:48.039
<v Speaker 2>Legs, I would think so. I think that's why they

889
00:49:48.079 --> 00:49:52.000
<v Speaker 2>have the uh the hinge foot. What do they call that?

890
00:49:53.719 --> 00:49:56.400
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, like the little torsel break in the foot.

891
00:49:56.280 --> 00:49:58.960
<v Speaker 2>That's it. Yeah, I think that's just so they can

892
00:49:59.079 --> 00:50:00.679
<v Speaker 2>run on all fours.

893
00:50:01.199 --> 00:50:04.880
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I mean I think they can run faster on

894
00:50:04.960 --> 00:50:06.840
<v Speaker 1>all fours as well, like cheatah speed.

895
00:50:07.920 --> 00:50:11.079
<v Speaker 2>Well, I think they can run almost twice that fast

896
00:50:11.159 --> 00:50:14.079
<v Speaker 2>myself because this thing, I was doing fifty five and

897
00:50:14.119 --> 00:50:19.159
<v Speaker 2>it caught me with no problem, and it hit me hard.

898
00:50:20.639 --> 00:50:24.840
<v Speaker 2>I mean the car just stopped, just like hitting a

899
00:50:24.840 --> 00:50:29.280
<v Speaker 2>big tree boom, and it was gone. You know, the

900
00:50:29.800 --> 00:50:32.119
<v Speaker 2>car spun around in the direction that it was going

901
00:50:32.159 --> 00:50:35.760
<v Speaker 2>in the headlights, you know, it was just off the

902
00:50:35.800 --> 00:50:37.199
<v Speaker 2>road and go on the other side.

903
00:50:39.039 --> 00:50:41.880
<v Speaker 1>Yeah. What time of night at nighttime was.

904
00:50:41.880 --> 00:50:47.519
<v Speaker 2>This Noh, ten o'clock, nine o'clock.

905
00:50:49.119 --> 00:50:52.079
<v Speaker 1>In that timeframe you were logging, not like when you

906
00:50:52.440 --> 00:50:53.159
<v Speaker 1>hire that creature.

907
00:50:53.199 --> 00:50:55.960
<v Speaker 2>But that day, well, it was the same month, I

908
00:50:56.000 --> 00:50:58.440
<v Speaker 2>think when we're I'm still working on the same job

909
00:50:58.519 --> 00:51:05.480
<v Speaker 2>and it was summertime. Wow. Definitely did that to me.

910
00:51:05.519 --> 00:51:06.920
<v Speaker 2>When there was snow in the road. I might have

911
00:51:06.960 --> 00:51:10.320
<v Speaker 2>been in big trouble, might have went off over the

912
00:51:10.320 --> 00:51:10.880
<v Speaker 2>bank wing.

913
00:51:11.639 --> 00:51:14.280
<v Speaker 1>Yeah. And did you mention something was on the roof

914
00:51:14.280 --> 00:51:14.800
<v Speaker 1>of the house.

915
00:51:16.960 --> 00:51:21.519
<v Speaker 2>No, Uh, that thing that slapped the house, it's I

916
00:51:21.559 --> 00:51:25.199
<v Speaker 2>thought a big tree fella the mouse. It sounded like

917
00:51:25.239 --> 00:51:25.960
<v Speaker 2>the roof broke.

918
00:51:29.199 --> 00:51:32.599
<v Speaker 1>Yeah. It sounds like they targeted you and possibly marked you,

919
00:51:32.639 --> 00:51:33.840
<v Speaker 1>and we're following you around.

920
00:51:34.760 --> 00:51:38.639
<v Speaker 2>No, I think they still are keeping an eye on me. Yeah,

921
00:51:38.719 --> 00:51:40.480
<v Speaker 2>I think. I think that's why I saw them in

922
00:51:40.519 --> 00:51:43.079
<v Speaker 2>the dream and they were just saying, yeah, we're watching it.

923
00:51:45.199 --> 00:51:50.639
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, that's interesting. And you mentioned this was in northern California.

924
00:51:50.800 --> 00:51:54.119
<v Speaker 1>Is that like the Bluff Creek area or the Sierra Nevadas.

925
00:51:54.239 --> 00:51:59.239
<v Speaker 2>No, No, no, it's uh, it's the north end of

926
00:51:59.280 --> 00:52:05.639
<v Speaker 2>the Sierras. Okay, yeah, Mount Shasta. Mount Shasta is the

927
00:52:05.719 --> 00:52:09.199
<v Speaker 2>southern end of the Cascades and Mount Lawson is the

928
00:52:09.239 --> 00:52:12.360
<v Speaker 2>northern end of the Sierras. And that's where that's where

929
00:52:12.400 --> 00:52:14.639
<v Speaker 2>this thing hit in the car and the screaming in

930
00:52:14.679 --> 00:52:15.400
<v Speaker 2>the camp went on.

931
00:52:17.239 --> 00:52:20.480
<v Speaker 1>Wow. Yeah, that's incredible. I bet that's a really cool

932
00:52:20.480 --> 00:52:24.760
<v Speaker 1>place to be at. And I'm sure that it's vast.

933
00:52:27.599 --> 00:52:27.840
<v Speaker 2>Here.

934
00:52:27.880 --> 00:52:31.000
<v Speaker 1>It's what, it's a vast area, like huge from.

935
00:52:30.880 --> 00:52:34.800
<v Speaker 2>Oh yeah, oh yeah, yeah, the Sierras are nothing but timber.

936
00:52:34.840 --> 00:52:39.000
<v Speaker 2>Here's there's a lot of acreage with nothing but dirt

937
00:52:39.079 --> 00:52:42.159
<v Speaker 2>roads and timber. And it's the same way up here

938
00:52:42.360 --> 00:52:46.360
<v Speaker 2>in Washington, you know, just the county Iemn. The valleys

939
00:52:46.400 --> 00:52:48.360
<v Speaker 2>that are here are just a drop in the bucket

940
00:52:48.360 --> 00:52:49.960
<v Speaker 2>compared to all the mountains and timber.

941
00:52:52.280 --> 00:52:54.440
<v Speaker 1>Yeah. And when you were on the job site, did

942
00:52:54.480 --> 00:52:57.679
<v Speaker 1>you typically see people in the area or were you

943
00:52:57.719 --> 00:52:59.280
<v Speaker 1>guys like the only ones out there.

944
00:53:01.159 --> 00:53:04.360
<v Speaker 2>No, Normally there's nobody around. Very seldom are we logging

945
00:53:04.400 --> 00:53:08.119
<v Speaker 2>around houses. Once in a while somebody had come through

946
00:53:08.119 --> 00:53:11.119
<v Speaker 2>a job on a four wheeler or side by side,

947
00:53:11.159 --> 00:53:16.559
<v Speaker 2>but that's where Yeah, most people know to stay out

948
00:53:16.679 --> 00:53:19.519
<v Speaker 2>if they hear log and equipment. They don't go around

949
00:53:19.599 --> 00:53:24.519
<v Speaker 2>you know, they could get smashed. But there's some people

950
00:53:24.559 --> 00:53:26.480
<v Speaker 2>that they don't just blow right through the landing and

951
00:53:27.360 --> 00:53:30.719
<v Speaker 2>take a chance on getting killed and give you a

952
00:53:30.800 --> 00:53:33.639
<v Speaker 2>dirty look like you're in my way. You know, I'm

953
00:53:33.679 --> 00:53:38.800
<v Speaker 2>here to play and you shouldn't be here. Okay, you

954
00:53:38.840 --> 00:53:41.840
<v Speaker 2>shouldn't be there. You might get hurt, right.

955
00:53:41.880 --> 00:53:46.480
<v Speaker 1>Well, the Sasquatch definitely had that attitude.

956
00:53:47.880 --> 00:53:51.519
<v Speaker 2>Well, you know, they're bigger, faster, and smarter than we are.

957
00:53:51.559 --> 00:53:55.480
<v Speaker 2>I think that's why nobody's going out and catching them

958
00:53:55.519 --> 00:53:59.280
<v Speaker 2>because they just can't. They know your intentions, they know

959
00:53:59.360 --> 00:54:04.000
<v Speaker 2>your plans, your thoughts, and you're not going to see

960
00:54:04.039 --> 00:54:07.119
<v Speaker 2>one unless you know. One really screws up big time

961
00:54:07.159 --> 00:54:10.880
<v Speaker 2>because you know, the noise of a stream or you know,

962
00:54:11.000 --> 00:54:13.400
<v Speaker 2>windstorm or something, they don't hear you coming or whatever.

963
00:54:13.960 --> 00:54:16.920
<v Speaker 2>I don't know, but very seldom to hear. Somebody sees

964
00:54:16.960 --> 00:54:20.000
<v Speaker 2>one that doesn't realize what's going on.

965
00:54:20.519 --> 00:54:23.400
<v Speaker 1>Did they ever try to tear up the equipment or

966
00:54:23.480 --> 00:54:25.599
<v Speaker 1>mess with any of your guys and stuff.

967
00:54:28.039 --> 00:54:32.519
<v Speaker 2>Not that I can recall, no, but I've heard of

968
00:54:32.559 --> 00:54:37.079
<v Speaker 2>it happening. I've heard of the equipment being destroyed that

969
00:54:37.280 --> 00:54:42.559
<v Speaker 2>oh Uh, there's a place owhere in Idaho. Uh. It's

970
00:54:42.920 --> 00:54:48.480
<v Speaker 2>or steep mountain range northeast Oregon and western Idaho. You

971
00:54:48.480 --> 00:54:52.679
<v Speaker 2>know where the Blue Mountains are in the north northeast

972
00:54:52.719 --> 00:54:56.760
<v Speaker 2>corner of Oregon and the Snake River comes down the

973
00:54:56.840 --> 00:55:00.400
<v Speaker 2>state line between Oregon and Idaho. Well, I'm the on

974
00:55:00.440 --> 00:55:04.800
<v Speaker 2>the east side of the river is a mountain range

975
00:55:05.239 --> 00:55:09.000
<v Speaker 2>and it's called the Seven Devils. Some real gnarly peaks

976
00:55:09.039 --> 00:55:16.320
<v Speaker 2>about nine thousand feet and this timber conglomerate that owns

977
00:55:16.320 --> 00:55:20.480
<v Speaker 2>some males over here in Idaho. I think they sent

978
00:55:20.559 --> 00:55:23.000
<v Speaker 2>some crews up there to log that and when they

979
00:55:23.119 --> 00:55:26.519
<v Speaker 2>dropped off the machines and they came back, the machines

980
00:55:26.519 --> 00:55:30.480
<v Speaker 2>were wrecked. And I don't think they ever logged up there.

981
00:55:30.840 --> 00:55:34.119
<v Speaker 2>I think the big Foots won't let them in that

982
00:55:34.880 --> 00:55:37.360
<v Speaker 2>area up on those mountains at all. Anybody goes up

983
00:55:37.400 --> 00:55:38.800
<v Speaker 2>there gets run out.

984
00:55:40.679 --> 00:55:43.440
<v Speaker 1>Yeah. I wonder why they call it Seven Devils, because

985
00:55:43.480 --> 00:55:46.280
<v Speaker 1>a lot of people claim there's like seven to nine

986
00:55:46.519 --> 00:55:49.679
<v Speaker 1>sasquatching a clan, And it makes me wonder if that's

987
00:55:49.719 --> 00:55:52.719
<v Speaker 1>why that place is why it has that name.

988
00:55:53.760 --> 00:55:56.000
<v Speaker 2>Well, I think anything would have named Devils is going

989
00:55:56.079 --> 00:55:57.199
<v Speaker 2>to be Sasquatched in.

990
00:55:57.079 --> 00:56:02.639
<v Speaker 1>The area, Yeah, for sure. And I don't know, Idaho

991
00:56:02.760 --> 00:56:05.719
<v Speaker 1>definitely sounds like a great place for Sasquatch. I mean

992
00:56:05.880 --> 00:56:09.440
<v Speaker 1>any mountain range with a lot of forests, for sure.

993
00:56:09.519 --> 00:56:14.159
<v Speaker 1>And I've heard reports in Washington where the loggers found

994
00:56:14.440 --> 00:56:17.599
<v Speaker 1>a bunch of tracks at the job site and these

995
00:56:17.639 --> 00:56:20.840
<v Speaker 1>things completely tore up their equipment. Even the big metal

996
00:56:20.920 --> 00:56:24.159
<v Speaker 1>drums that were filled up. They tossed them like.

997
00:56:24.800 --> 00:56:27.559
<v Speaker 2>Oh, yeah, they've done there, Bluff Creek, that's what happened

998
00:56:27.559 --> 00:56:32.599
<v Speaker 2>down there. They were pioneering new road and it might

999
00:56:32.599 --> 00:56:35.599
<v Speaker 2>have been reservational land. I think they're pioneering a new

1000
00:56:35.679 --> 00:56:37.519
<v Speaker 2>road up in there where there's never been a road.

1001
00:56:37.559 --> 00:56:40.760
<v Speaker 2>And you can see the bigfoot tracks in the dirt

1002
00:56:40.760 --> 00:56:42.280
<v Speaker 2>in the morning when they come back to work to

1003
00:56:42.280 --> 00:56:44.800
<v Speaker 2>work on the road, and you can see where they've

1004
00:56:44.840 --> 00:56:46.840
<v Speaker 2>tick them through the spare tire for the front endload

1005
00:56:46.920 --> 00:56:49.760
<v Speaker 2>or across the ravine, and they threw oil drums across

1006
00:56:49.760 --> 00:56:54.000
<v Speaker 2>the ravine where you could never go and retrieve it. Yeah. Now,

1007
00:56:54.039 --> 00:56:56.119
<v Speaker 2>those things are so heavy, you know, it takes four

1008
00:56:56.159 --> 00:56:59.280
<v Speaker 2>guys to move on, you know, to pick one up

1009
00:57:00.119 --> 00:57:02.719
<v Speaker 2>or more. And this thing just throws it quarter of

1010
00:57:02.800 --> 00:57:03.960
<v Speaker 2>a mile across the creek.

1011
00:57:05.719 --> 00:57:11.800
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, that's definitely a scary situation for something unknown in

1012
00:57:11.840 --> 00:57:14.159
<v Speaker 1>the woods to be throwing barrels like that like a

1013
00:57:14.199 --> 00:57:19.519
<v Speaker 1>soda can and flipping flipping equipment over. I mean, just

1014
00:57:19.559 --> 00:57:21.840
<v Speaker 1>imagine the strength that would take to like flip over

1015
00:57:21.880 --> 00:57:22.320
<v Speaker 1>a backo.

1016
00:57:23.519 --> 00:57:26.760
<v Speaker 2>Yeah. Well, I've heard that, you know, big bulldozer done

1017
00:57:26.800 --> 00:57:29.280
<v Speaker 2>in California, you know, way back in the sixties or so,

1018
00:57:29.400 --> 00:57:33.400
<v Speaker 2>and some guys were logging down there and they came

1019
00:57:33.440 --> 00:57:36.400
<v Speaker 2>to work and the bulldozer was, you know, a big

1020
00:57:36.440 --> 00:57:40.320
<v Speaker 2>one and it's just crushed with big boulders and they

1021
00:57:40.360 --> 00:57:41.800
<v Speaker 2>just had to take it to the scrap guard and

1022
00:57:41.840 --> 00:57:42.639
<v Speaker 2>sell it for scrap.

1023
00:57:45.280 --> 00:57:48.840
<v Speaker 1>Yeah. Well, these things can definitely wreak havoc on the land,

1024
00:57:48.920 --> 00:57:51.559
<v Speaker 1>I mean, or at least on people's equipment.

1025
00:57:52.519 --> 00:57:56.440
<v Speaker 2>That's like war, you know, mm hmm. There'd have to

1026
00:57:56.480 --> 00:57:57.679
<v Speaker 2>be a bunch of them to do that.

1027
00:57:59.159 --> 00:58:01.599
<v Speaker 1>No, Yeah, for sure, I wouldn't want to tick them off.

1028
00:58:01.760 --> 00:58:05.400
<v Speaker 1>That's that's a scary situation. And I don't know, like

1029
00:58:05.639 --> 00:58:08.920
<v Speaker 1>it seems like a lot of loggers have had experiences

1030
00:58:08.960 --> 00:58:11.320
<v Speaker 1>with the Sasquatch. A lot of them choose not to

1031
00:58:11.599 --> 00:58:14.880
<v Speaker 1>talk about it, and it makes me wonder, like, how

1032
00:58:14.880 --> 00:58:18.760
<v Speaker 1>many crews have experienced a situation like that and they're

1033
00:58:18.800 --> 00:58:21.880
<v Speaker 1>not allowed to tell people or they're told to just

1034
00:58:21.960 --> 00:58:25.079
<v Speaker 1>go log somewhere else. I wonder what the protocol is

1035
00:58:25.119 --> 00:58:26.599
<v Speaker 1>with loggers.

1036
00:58:28.119 --> 00:58:33.119
<v Speaker 2>Well, it's the lagger probably says, well, you know, we

1037
00:58:33.199 --> 00:58:36.960
<v Speaker 2>just can't logger. This is, you know, weird stuff's going on.

1038
00:58:37.039 --> 00:58:41.360
<v Speaker 2>I can't afford the damage. We're gonna have to go

1039
00:58:41.400 --> 00:58:44.719
<v Speaker 2>find similar place to work. Because if they're destroying your machines,

1040
00:58:45.480 --> 00:58:48.480
<v Speaker 2>what's threatening your people throwing things at them? Stuff? You

1041
00:58:48.599 --> 00:58:49.440
<v Speaker 2>got to get out of there.

1042
00:58:50.559 --> 00:58:55.000
<v Speaker 1>M I always wanted to ask a logger this question.

1043
00:58:55.079 --> 00:58:58.119
<v Speaker 1>Here in Missouri, I had some bigfoot activity in a

1044
00:58:58.119 --> 00:59:01.719
<v Speaker 1>conservation area and I back to check out the spot

1045
00:59:01.760 --> 00:59:03.840
<v Speaker 1>where I was hearing wood knocks about two or three

1046
00:59:03.880 --> 00:59:05.760
<v Speaker 1>months after I heard the wood knocks because I was

1047
00:59:05.800 --> 00:59:08.440
<v Speaker 1>waiting for deer season to end. But when I walked

1048
00:59:08.440 --> 00:59:11.679
<v Speaker 1>into this pine thicket across the field, I found all

1049
00:59:11.760 --> 00:59:15.960
<v Speaker 1>these structures, just huge axes everywhere. There are very symmetrical

1050
00:59:16.239 --> 00:59:21.400
<v Speaker 1>arches and just strange geometrical patterns with the trees. And

1051
00:59:21.599 --> 00:59:25.000
<v Speaker 1>later on they marked the trees. There was like this

1052
00:59:25.159 --> 00:59:29.519
<v Speaker 1>red paint, like this red dash on the big pines,

1053
00:59:29.519 --> 00:59:31.360
<v Speaker 1>and I was like, oh man, they're gonna log this

1054
00:59:31.440 --> 00:59:34.639
<v Speaker 1>area because they know there's bigfoot here. But they never

1055
00:59:34.800 --> 00:59:39.840
<v Speaker 1>logged a single tree. And those those lines are now fading,

1056
00:59:39.960 --> 00:59:43.639
<v Speaker 1>Like I feel like they mark them to let other

1057
00:59:43.719 --> 00:59:47.199
<v Speaker 1>loggers like bypass the area, like don't touch this spot.

1058
00:59:47.239 --> 00:59:50.559
<v Speaker 1>This is their territory. And I don't know. I wonder

1059
00:59:50.599 --> 00:59:53.960
<v Speaker 1>if that was just conservation or the loggers themselves. Have

1060
00:59:54.079 --> 00:59:58.639
<v Speaker 1>you guys ever seen anything like that, like, hey, these

1061
00:59:58.679 --> 01:00:01.800
<v Speaker 1>trees are marked, means don't cut them. I mean, like,

1062
01:00:01.840 --> 01:00:02.760
<v Speaker 1>what's your take on it?

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01:00:04.079 --> 01:00:09.000
<v Speaker 2>Well, sometimes the way it's done, Miguel is if you're

1064
01:00:09.039 --> 01:00:11.079
<v Speaker 2>going to leave the majority of the trees, you mark

1065
01:00:11.119 --> 01:00:12.639
<v Speaker 2>the ones that are going to be taken. If you're

1066
01:00:12.639 --> 01:00:14.960
<v Speaker 2>going to take the majority of the trees, you mark

1067
01:00:15.000 --> 01:00:16.360
<v Speaker 2>the ones that are going to be left. Well, you

1068
01:00:16.400 --> 01:00:17.280
<v Speaker 2>don't use as much pain.

1069
01:00:19.760 --> 01:00:22.000
<v Speaker 1>Okay, Yeah, it's.

1070
01:00:21.360 --> 01:00:24.880
<v Speaker 2>A it's a le it's a leave mark, it's not

1071
01:00:24.960 --> 01:00:26.159
<v Speaker 2>a take take mark.

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01:00:27.159 --> 01:00:30.360
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, that's probably what was going on there, like leave

1073
01:00:30.440 --> 01:00:32.159
<v Speaker 1>these trees, don't cut them.

1074
01:00:33.159 --> 01:00:35.400
<v Speaker 2>Mm hmm, that's what's going on. Yeah.

1075
01:00:36.159 --> 01:00:41.880
<v Speaker 1>Yeah. Do you feel like when people log a section

1076
01:00:42.000 --> 01:00:46.480
<v Speaker 1>of woods that it pushes them to another area or do.

1077
01:00:46.400 --> 01:00:49.360
<v Speaker 2>You think they just for sure, I think they do

1078
01:00:50.320 --> 01:00:51.920
<v Speaker 2>because they don't want to be seen and they do

1079
01:00:52.000 --> 01:00:57.440
<v Speaker 2>want to have freedom of movement. Yeah, you know, they're

1080
01:00:57.480 --> 01:00:59.719
<v Speaker 2>probably moving in the dark most of the time. But

1081
01:01:00.079 --> 01:01:03.280
<v Speaker 2>if they're in the timber or the brush, you know,

1082
01:01:03.840 --> 01:01:07.320
<v Speaker 2>they're really secure and they could be hounting in there

1083
01:01:07.360 --> 01:01:09.760
<v Speaker 2>or whatever. Just you know, in wide open it's not

1084
01:01:09.880 --> 01:01:10.599
<v Speaker 2>easy to hunt.

1085
01:01:12.639 --> 01:01:15.440
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I think that's accurate. When I had my bigfoot,

1086
01:01:15.480 --> 01:01:19.159
<v Speaker 1>I sight and encounters here way off in the distance

1087
01:01:19.199 --> 01:01:21.199
<v Speaker 1>in the deep woods. For about a year or two,

1088
01:01:21.280 --> 01:01:24.360
<v Speaker 1>I could hear someone chainsawing just NonStop. I think they

1089
01:01:24.360 --> 01:01:27.519
<v Speaker 1>were making like huge fields for cattle. But I feel

1090
01:01:27.559 --> 01:01:31.679
<v Speaker 1>like they pushed them towards me because where I'm at

1091
01:01:31.760 --> 01:01:35.599
<v Speaker 1>it's not too far away from the nearby town, and

1092
01:01:35.960 --> 01:01:37.840
<v Speaker 1>I think that's where they were living at.

1093
01:01:39.599 --> 01:01:42.119
<v Speaker 2>Well. I think it also depends on the food sources.

1094
01:01:43.000 --> 01:01:45.840
<v Speaker 2>You know, if there's crops or wild game or something

1095
01:01:46.440 --> 01:01:48.239
<v Speaker 2>in an area. I don't think it matters if there's

1096
01:01:48.280 --> 01:01:50.880
<v Speaker 2>any timber or brush at all. They'll come there at

1097
01:01:50.960 --> 01:01:53.760
<v Speaker 2>night if they can and take whatever they need.

1098
01:01:55.400 --> 01:01:58.639
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, for sure, And I feel like the sound of

1099
01:01:58.679 --> 01:02:01.840
<v Speaker 1>a chainsaw can really disrupt their senses, at least it

1100
01:02:01.840 --> 01:02:04.199
<v Speaker 1>does with me. When I use a chainsaw for a

1101
01:02:04.239 --> 01:02:07.039
<v Speaker 1>long time, it's almost like the sound vibrates through the

1102
01:02:07.119 --> 01:02:09.880
<v Speaker 1>roots in the ground and like after you stop, like

1103
01:02:09.960 --> 01:02:13.159
<v Speaker 1>your ears are like ringing really bad. So I'm sure,

1104
01:02:13.320 --> 01:02:16.159
<v Speaker 1>I'm sure it bothers them. I've also heard of people

1105
01:02:16.239 --> 01:02:20.000
<v Speaker 1>being chased on Harley's I think the sound just disrupts them.

1106
01:02:21.320 --> 01:02:25.239
<v Speaker 2>Oh yeah, Well, there's a guy over here in Oregon

1107
01:02:25.800 --> 01:02:29.239
<v Speaker 2>that I'm talking to, and he said he's heard Hardy

1108
01:02:29.280 --> 01:02:31.920
<v Speaker 2>Gavidson's going up through the brush on the mountain where

1109
01:02:31.920 --> 01:02:36.519
<v Speaker 2>there's no trail at all. He's heard back couple arms

1110
01:02:36.519 --> 01:02:39.000
<v Speaker 2>like fork cliffs have eat eat eat deep in the

1111
01:02:39.039 --> 01:02:41.960
<v Speaker 2>woods where there's no no road, no trail or nothing.

1112
01:02:43.000 --> 01:02:47.039
<v Speaker 2>They'll make all kinds of weird sounds. And well on

1113
01:02:47.079 --> 01:02:52.159
<v Speaker 2>Morehead said he's heard middle clanging sounds up on the

1114
01:02:52.199 --> 01:02:57.559
<v Speaker 2>seilers where there was no roads. You know, they could

1115
01:02:57.639 --> 01:02:59.639
<v Speaker 2>make all kinds of weird sounds. Well, why are they

1116
01:02:59.679 --> 01:03:00.000
<v Speaker 2>doing it?

1117
01:03:01.960 --> 01:03:05.880
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I've heard people say that on the channel before

1118
01:03:05.920 --> 01:03:08.519
<v Speaker 1>that they heard like a motorcycle going through the woods

1119
01:03:08.559 --> 01:03:13.320
<v Speaker 1>where there's no roads. It's like a steep ravine and

1120
01:03:13.719 --> 01:03:15.840
<v Speaker 1>a lot of people talk about like the metal doors

1121
01:03:15.920 --> 01:03:19.000
<v Speaker 1>being shut. People have mentioned that possibly it's the portal

1122
01:03:19.039 --> 01:03:22.119
<v Speaker 1>opening up, or these things are mimicking the sounds of machinery,

1123
01:03:22.840 --> 01:03:25.400
<v Speaker 1>and yeah, that's that's speaking about.

1124
01:03:26.400 --> 01:03:29.119
<v Speaker 2>Maybe they've got machinery under the ground. Who knows. There's

1125
01:03:29.159 --> 01:03:31.920
<v Speaker 2>so much we don't know. It's just like what we

1126
01:03:32.039 --> 01:03:35.599
<v Speaker 2>do have clues. We do have clues because you know,

1127
01:03:35.679 --> 01:03:38.119
<v Speaker 2>you hear all these different accounts and a lot of

1128
01:03:38.159 --> 01:03:39.800
<v Speaker 2>them say the same thing, and so it kind of

1129
01:03:40.119 --> 01:03:43.559
<v Speaker 2>you know, they're validating each other. So you kind of think, well,

1130
01:03:43.679 --> 01:03:47.079
<v Speaker 2>that's probably going on. You know, everybody else is saying

1131
01:03:47.079 --> 01:03:49.719
<v Speaker 2>the same thing I that I saw or heard, and

1132
01:03:50.960 --> 01:03:55.400
<v Speaker 2>but there's got to be more than what people are reporting. No, yeah,

1133
01:03:55.800 --> 01:03:57.920
<v Speaker 2>we're we're not seeing and hearing at all.

1134
01:03:58.679 --> 01:04:01.800
<v Speaker 1>M Yeah, I agree. I mean we may not know

1135
01:04:01.880 --> 01:04:05.280
<v Speaker 1>exactly what's going on, but with the information that we

1136
01:04:05.360 --> 01:04:08.559
<v Speaker 1>have today, I feel like we've come along ways compared

1137
01:04:08.639 --> 01:04:12.400
<v Speaker 1>to like the seventies, Like, oh yeah, we know heck

1138
01:04:12.480 --> 01:04:14.159
<v Speaker 1>of a lot more, that's for sure.

1139
01:04:14.360 --> 01:04:17.239
<v Speaker 2>Well, the internet's been a key to a lot of knowledge.

1140
01:04:17.360 --> 01:04:20.119
<v Speaker 2>You know, people are spreading knowledge like crazy because they

1141
01:04:20.119 --> 01:04:24.199
<v Speaker 2>can communicate it with the Internet, where they you know,

1142
01:04:24.199 --> 01:04:27.079
<v Speaker 2>the amount of people they meet on the street, there's

1143
01:04:27.119 --> 01:04:30.679
<v Speaker 2>nothing compared to the people on the internet. People that

1144
01:04:30.960 --> 01:04:34.000
<v Speaker 2>have had the same experience on the internet, you know,

1145
01:04:34.079 --> 01:04:36.039
<v Speaker 2>you can connect with them pretty easy. But yeah, I'm

1146
01:04:36.039 --> 01:04:38.000
<v Speaker 2>going to go talk to everybody on the street about it.

1147
01:04:40.199 --> 01:04:43.039
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I agree with you, And I'm sure there's a

1148
01:04:43.079 --> 01:04:46.679
<v Speaker 1>lot of hunters that hear this information and say, I've

1149
01:04:46.880 --> 01:04:48.840
<v Speaker 1>been out in the woods, I've been everywhere and I've

1150
01:04:48.920 --> 01:04:50.239
<v Speaker 1>never experienced anything.

1151
01:04:50.760 --> 01:04:52.320
<v Speaker 2>But I said the same thing.

1152
01:04:52.599 --> 01:04:55.639
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, they might experience it, and they'll know what's going

1153
01:04:55.679 --> 01:04:58.440
<v Speaker 1>on when they do, because they've listened to these podcasts.

1154
01:05:00.000 --> 01:05:03.960
<v Speaker 2>Well, if you don't hear other people's experiences, you don't

1155
01:05:03.960 --> 01:05:06.280
<v Speaker 2>stop and think about your own unless it was you know,

1156
01:05:06.320 --> 01:05:11.559
<v Speaker 2>really obviously, like the things screaming in my camp, you know, like,

1157
01:05:12.000 --> 01:05:14.639
<v Speaker 2>how do you put that? You can't make sense of that.

1158
01:05:16.039 --> 01:05:19.639
<v Speaker 2>But if other people have heard it and seen it, like,

1159
01:05:20.480 --> 01:05:26.920
<v Speaker 2>that's probably what it was because nothing else could do that. Mm.

1160
01:05:27.679 --> 01:05:29.920
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I got to report from a lady in Oregon.

1161
01:05:30.280 --> 01:05:32.679
<v Speaker 1>She said on one of the mountains at nighttime, she

1162
01:05:32.679 --> 01:05:35.840
<v Speaker 1>could hear one of these things screaming every night, just

1163
01:05:35.920 --> 01:05:39.000
<v Speaker 1>like what you described. And her theory was it was

1164
01:05:39.039 --> 01:05:41.280
<v Speaker 1>like giving birth or having a like it was having

1165
01:05:41.280 --> 01:05:41.760
<v Speaker 1>a baby.

1166
01:05:43.039 --> 01:05:45.400
<v Speaker 2>Yeah. Well, I think that's a problem with guil because

1167
01:05:45.480 --> 01:05:48.480
<v Speaker 2>people want to relate everything that they see and hear

1168
01:05:48.800 --> 01:05:50.840
<v Speaker 2>to the human experience, and I don't think you can

1169
01:05:50.880 --> 01:05:54.960
<v Speaker 2>do that. I think that they have different motives and

1170
01:05:55.199 --> 01:05:59.840
<v Speaker 2>different habits, and they're too different to try to put

1171
01:06:00.079 --> 01:06:05.719
<v Speaker 2>human uh emotions or habits onto them. They're just not

1172
01:06:06.000 --> 01:06:08.960
<v Speaker 2>like us. They're they've got reasons, different reasons for what

1173
01:06:09.000 --> 01:06:11.960
<v Speaker 2>they do than what we do. Mm hmm.

1174
01:06:12.400 --> 01:06:15.320
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, that's for sure.

1175
01:06:16.400 --> 01:06:19.239
<v Speaker 2>Actually going to some island where the natives have never

1176
01:06:19.280 --> 01:06:21.800
<v Speaker 2>seen civilization and then take them to New York and

1177
01:06:21.880 --> 01:06:26.440
<v Speaker 2>drop them offwardly, it's another world, you know, it's it's

1178
01:06:26.480 --> 01:06:29.519
<v Speaker 2>not going to work. And I think that the Bigfoots

1179
01:06:29.559 --> 01:06:33.039
<v Speaker 2>and the humans there's a divide there too, in their

1180
01:06:33.159 --> 01:06:35.760
<v Speaker 2>life that we live, in the life that they lived,

1181
01:06:35.840 --> 01:06:40.440
<v Speaker 2>it's so different that you can only grasp pieces of it.

1182
01:06:42.320 --> 01:06:44.840
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I agree, And I think that's the most captivating

1183
01:06:44.920 --> 01:06:48.400
<v Speaker 1>thing is that we're both living on the same planet,

1184
01:06:48.519 --> 01:06:52.039
<v Speaker 1>but like they haven't been discovered or people can't figure

1185
01:06:52.039 --> 01:06:55.400
<v Speaker 1>them out. But yet we're utilizing the same forest and

1186
01:06:55.480 --> 01:06:59.920
<v Speaker 1>these things have been able to evade humans, so well.

1187
01:07:00.920 --> 01:07:03.519
<v Speaker 2>I could. I think that they. I think that they

1188
01:07:03.519 --> 01:07:05.280
<v Speaker 2>can get into your head and make you forget what

1189
01:07:05.400 --> 01:07:09.519
<v Speaker 2>you saw. If they can, if they can mind speak

1190
01:07:09.559 --> 01:07:12.199
<v Speaker 2>to you and give you images, why couldn't they take

1191
01:07:12.239 --> 01:07:15.039
<v Speaker 2>them away or replace them, or you know, make you

1192
01:07:15.119 --> 01:07:19.000
<v Speaker 2>think you have a memory that you really didn't before

1193
01:07:19.280 --> 01:07:22.320
<v Speaker 2>or whatever. I think that they have a mental building,

1194
01:07:22.800 --> 01:07:26.280
<v Speaker 2>mental abilities that are far beyond what humans do.

1195
01:07:27.079 --> 01:07:28.920
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, that could explain missing time.

1196
01:07:30.320 --> 01:07:34.559
<v Speaker 2>Yeah yeah, well even to deal with the UFO. The

1197
01:07:34.559 --> 01:07:36.840
<v Speaker 2>guy that was with me, he saw God out and

1198
01:07:36.880 --> 01:07:41.280
<v Speaker 2>saw the thing and now he says it never happened. Yeah, like,

1199
01:07:41.760 --> 01:07:45.440
<v Speaker 2>how did that? How could you not remember that? That's

1200
01:07:45.480 --> 01:07:48.400
<v Speaker 2>the biggest, weirdest thing in your whole life and you

1201
01:07:48.480 --> 01:07:49.000
<v Speaker 2>forgot it.

1202
01:07:50.400 --> 01:07:53.239
<v Speaker 1>Yeah. I've had an experience like that with a buddy.

1203
01:07:53.400 --> 01:07:57.159
<v Speaker 1>We saw a hell hound run in front of the vehicle,

1204
01:07:57.480 --> 01:07:59.480
<v Speaker 1>and I know he saw it. We both talked about

1205
01:07:59.519 --> 01:08:01.599
<v Speaker 1>it in your later. I asked him about it and

1206
01:08:01.599 --> 01:08:05.199
<v Speaker 1>he was like, I don't remember that. It's like what, I.

1207
01:08:05.440 --> 01:08:09.960
<v Speaker 2>Think that they can manipulate our minds to a degree.

1208
01:08:11.480 --> 01:08:14.079
<v Speaker 1>I definitely think that. Or some people just try to

1209
01:08:14.119 --> 01:08:17.239
<v Speaker 1>block it out too and try to forget about it,

1210
01:08:18.079 --> 01:08:20.399
<v Speaker 1>like explain that it didn't happen to themselves.

1211
01:08:20.840 --> 01:08:23.359
<v Speaker 2>Maybe maybe they can, Maybe they can make you forget it,

1212
01:08:23.720 --> 01:08:27.000
<v Speaker 2>and then something triggers that memory later and it comes back.

1213
01:08:27.800 --> 01:08:30.039
<v Speaker 2>That's a lot of weird stuff. And I don't care

1214
01:08:30.319 --> 01:08:32.399
<v Speaker 2>people think I'm crazy or not. That's just the way

1215
01:08:32.439 --> 01:08:32.960
<v Speaker 2>I saw it.

1216
01:08:34.800 --> 01:08:37.680
<v Speaker 1>Yeah. Absolutely, they can think we're crazy. But if it

1217
01:08:37.760 --> 01:08:41.119
<v Speaker 1>helps somebody else who've who's had one of these experiences,

1218
01:08:41.640 --> 01:08:45.439
<v Speaker 1>or somebody who's never experienced anything at all that runs

1219
01:08:45.439 --> 01:08:47.880
<v Speaker 1>into these creatures, then you know we did our job.

1220
01:08:48.119 --> 01:08:48.800
<v Speaker 1>We warned them.

1221
01:08:48.960 --> 01:08:52.800
<v Speaker 2>Well, how many people are still today thinking I got

1222
01:08:52.840 --> 01:08:55.720
<v Speaker 2>to be crazy? I did. I couldn't have seen that.

1223
01:08:55.960 --> 01:09:00.960
<v Speaker 2>I have to be going crazy. And then they listen

1224
01:09:01.000 --> 01:09:03.079
<v Speaker 2>to a podcast where somebody saw the same thing and

1225
01:09:03.119 --> 01:09:03.800
<v Speaker 2>they get relief.

1226
01:09:04.720 --> 01:09:08.479
<v Speaker 1>Oh yeah, for sure, And that's what the podcast is for.

1227
01:09:08.560 --> 01:09:11.439
<v Speaker 1>I often wonder if there's people out there who have

1228
01:09:11.520 --> 01:09:15.399
<v Speaker 1>had terrifying encounters with these things and they just chose

1229
01:09:15.439 --> 01:09:19.119
<v Speaker 1>to end live or ended up like in a mental institute.

1230
01:09:19.159 --> 01:09:22.640
<v Speaker 1>You know, like who knows what definitely, like what type

1231
01:09:22.680 --> 01:09:25.159
<v Speaker 1>of effect this could have on an individual.

1232
01:09:26.079 --> 01:09:30.800
<v Speaker 2>Oh, I guarantee there's people that are themselves over it. Guaranteed. Yeah,

1233
01:09:30.840 --> 01:09:33.760
<v Speaker 2>because they just they just can't their mind can't take it.

1234
01:09:33.760 --> 01:09:37.560
<v Speaker 2>They go insane, I'm crazy, I'm crazy. This is And

1235
01:09:37.600 --> 01:09:40.680
<v Speaker 2>because it once something like that happens to you and

1236
01:09:40.720 --> 01:09:46.600
<v Speaker 2>you realize what it is, you can't let it go. Yeah,

1237
01:09:46.640 --> 01:09:49.520
<v Speaker 2>it's going to bother you the rest of your life. Absolutely,

1238
01:09:49.680 --> 01:09:52.560
<v Speaker 2>so I people start mouthing off about it, you know,

1239
01:09:52.720 --> 01:09:55.720
<v Speaker 2>all big foot. There's some big foot. I hope you

1240
01:09:55.840 --> 01:09:58.520
<v Speaker 2>never see one, buddy, because once they once they get

1241
01:09:58.520 --> 01:10:03.159
<v Speaker 2>in your head, that's it. They're there. And I don't

1242
01:10:03.159 --> 01:10:04.840
<v Speaker 2>think there's any way you can get rid of them

1243
01:10:04.840 --> 01:10:08.520
<v Speaker 2>at all in any way except with Jesus' name. You

1244
01:10:08.720 --> 01:10:13.239
<v Speaker 2>just tell them the name of Jesus, you leave me alone.

1245
01:10:13.800 --> 01:10:16.319
<v Speaker 2>Other than that, they're too powerful.

1246
01:10:17.920 --> 01:10:21.520
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, for sure. And it's scary to think of like

1247
01:10:21.600 --> 01:10:24.680
<v Speaker 1>what they're capable of if you run into them. Because

1248
01:10:24.720 --> 01:10:27.560
<v Speaker 1>I've taken a lot of reports where people talk about

1249
01:10:27.560 --> 01:10:30.920
<v Speaker 1>the mind speak, and you know a lot of these

1250
01:10:30.960 --> 01:10:34.760
<v Speaker 1>folks like sound terrified, like they ran into this big

1251
01:10:34.840 --> 01:10:37.520
<v Speaker 1>male that was like twelve foot tall, and it spoke

1252
01:10:37.600 --> 01:10:40.439
<v Speaker 1>to them through their mind and they never wanted to

1253
01:10:40.439 --> 01:10:42.439
<v Speaker 1>come on the channel. You could just tell that it

1254
01:10:42.680 --> 01:10:44.920
<v Speaker 1>really bothered them, and you know, they just end up

1255
01:10:44.920 --> 01:10:47.319
<v Speaker 1>disappearing and I never hear from them again. I never

1256
01:10:47.479 --> 01:10:50.800
<v Speaker 1>post the report because I never got that far. But

1257
01:10:50.840 --> 01:10:53.239
<v Speaker 1>it's just like, man, this is happening to a lot

1258
01:10:53.279 --> 01:10:53.680
<v Speaker 1>of people.

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01:10:56.920 --> 01:10:58.159
<v Speaker 2>Have you heard of Chuck Jacobs.

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01:10:59.199 --> 01:10:59.720
<v Speaker 1>I haven't.

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01:11:00.680 --> 01:11:07.000
<v Speaker 2>He's down in Arizona. Well Steve is though, you know him. Yeah,

1262
01:11:07.079 --> 01:11:09.640
<v Speaker 2>he was gonna fly to Arizona and meet Chuck and

1263
01:11:09.680 --> 01:11:11.760
<v Speaker 2>his friends because they have a group called the Arizona

1264
01:11:11.800 --> 01:11:16.640
<v Speaker 2>Four and there they mind speak and see club sasquatches

1265
01:11:16.720 --> 01:11:20.439
<v Speaker 2>like all the time. And they said, they told Steve,

1266
01:11:20.520 --> 01:11:22.239
<v Speaker 2>you come down here and you're gonna meet him, and

1267
01:11:22.279 --> 01:11:25.079
<v Speaker 2>he some of the natives up there in brigs clumb

1268
01:11:25.079 --> 01:11:27.199
<v Speaker 2>you're talking out of it. They said, don't don't go.

1269
01:11:27.920 --> 01:11:30.039
<v Speaker 2>We don't want to have any contact with these things.

1270
01:11:30.039 --> 01:11:36.760
<v Speaker 2>And well, Chuck. I talked to Chuck and told him

1271
01:11:36.800 --> 01:11:43.439
<v Speaker 2>what you know, everything I've told you, and he said, well, uh,

1272
01:11:44.159 --> 01:11:47.479
<v Speaker 2>we're talking about the one that I saw here in

1273
01:11:47.479 --> 01:11:53.680
<v Speaker 2>the trash And he says, oh, we were talking about

1274
01:11:53.680 --> 01:11:55.560
<v Speaker 2>the dream, that's what it was. And I was a

1275
01:11:55.680 --> 01:11:57.800
<v Speaker 2>telling Chuck, you know, I think I think they'd been here,

1276
01:11:58.159 --> 01:12:00.479
<v Speaker 2>but maybe the same one like five or six times,

1277
01:12:01.840 --> 01:12:05.720
<v Speaker 2>and he says, well, just go outside and talk to him,

1278
01:12:07.159 --> 01:12:09.079
<v Speaker 2>go ask her name. And I went outside and I

1279
01:12:09.119 --> 01:12:13.239
<v Speaker 2>says something like, you know fast quatches or if you

1280
01:12:13.399 --> 01:12:17.680
<v Speaker 2>run here, Oh, what's your name? And I knew nothing.

1281
01:12:18.520 --> 01:12:19.880
<v Speaker 2>I started to walk in the house and all of

1282
01:12:19.880 --> 01:12:25.359
<v Speaker 2>a sudden, Michael came into my head. I'm like, did

1283
01:12:25.359 --> 01:12:27.720
<v Speaker 2>I just tell myself Michael or did that come into

1284
01:12:27.760 --> 01:12:34.359
<v Speaker 2>my head? That's weird mm hm. Why would I answer

1285
01:12:34.439 --> 01:12:36.600
<v Speaker 2>myself when I was waiting for an answer.

1286
01:12:37.720 --> 01:12:41.720
<v Speaker 1>Yeah. I've definitely experienced it before, but it wasn't what

1287
01:12:41.720 --> 01:12:44.600
<v Speaker 1>the crypt did. It was with the paranormal. Inside my

1288
01:12:44.760 --> 01:12:47.600
<v Speaker 1>friend's house, something said Miguel right in my ear, and

1289
01:12:47.640 --> 01:12:50.119
<v Speaker 1>it was a female's voice. It sounded like my friend's sister.

1290
01:12:50.199 --> 01:12:52.399
<v Speaker 1>And I even turned around said what and there was

1291
01:12:52.399 --> 01:12:55.000
<v Speaker 1>no one there that spooked me. I don't know if

1292
01:12:55.000 --> 01:12:59.319
<v Speaker 1>that was mine speaker, if something actually like said my name.

1293
01:13:01.479 --> 01:13:10.479
<v Speaker 2>Somebody did mh you know, either vocally or mentally. Yeah, normally.

1294
01:13:11.000 --> 01:13:14.279
<v Speaker 2>The way I see it is, your first impression is

1295
01:13:14.319 --> 01:13:19.119
<v Speaker 2>probably right when you start doubting and trying to, you know,

1296
01:13:19.479 --> 01:13:22.520
<v Speaker 2>make sense of something that doesn't make sense, you confuse it.

1297
01:13:22.920 --> 01:13:26.439
<v Speaker 2>I think your first your first impression is usually pretty

1298
01:13:26.439 --> 01:13:27.600
<v Speaker 2>close to exactly right.

1299
01:13:30.039 --> 01:13:32.560
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, for sure. I definitely feel for all the people

1300
01:13:32.600 --> 01:13:37.079
<v Speaker 1>that have encountered these things, especially when they experience the

1301
01:13:37.199 --> 01:13:40.359
<v Speaker 1>paranormal side to it. It's just a lot of a

1302
01:13:40.359 --> 01:13:43.319
<v Speaker 1>lot of weight on your shoulders, and it can definitely

1303
01:13:43.399 --> 01:13:46.640
<v Speaker 1>cause your mind a spiral and to just like keep

1304
01:13:46.720 --> 01:13:49.119
<v Speaker 1>thinking about it over and over and over and over.

1305
01:13:49.359 --> 01:13:54.079
<v Speaker 2>Oh, it can unravel your whole life. You here people

1306
01:13:54.279 --> 01:13:59.760
<v Speaker 2>from themselves. You're a marriages breaking up. Oh. People try

1307
01:13:59.800 --> 01:14:03.319
<v Speaker 2>to the relatives what happened, and they're they're scoffed. You know,

1308
01:14:03.399 --> 01:14:07.319
<v Speaker 2>that laughed at the rest of their life. The crazy

1309
01:14:07.319 --> 01:14:11.640
<v Speaker 2>guy thinks Bigfoot's real. You know, they're terrorized so bad

1310
01:14:11.880 --> 01:14:14.039
<v Speaker 2>when you're at the hunting cabin. They can never go back.

1311
01:14:14.960 --> 01:14:17.479
<v Speaker 2>Oh there, you know, they have nothing but nightmares. It's

1312
01:14:17.560 --> 01:14:20.600
<v Speaker 2>just you just want to talk to those people and

1313
01:14:20.640 --> 01:14:25.000
<v Speaker 2>tell them you know, it's real deal and there's there

1314
01:14:25.079 --> 01:14:27.720
<v Speaker 2>are there are ways to get your mind around it

1315
01:14:27.800 --> 01:14:31.319
<v Speaker 2>and get your life back. You know, well, you're not

1316
01:14:31.399 --> 01:14:35.840
<v Speaker 2>just scared to death and doubting yourself if you're going crazy.

1317
01:14:37.600 --> 01:14:40.399
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, absolutely, that's the worst feeling when you tell your

1318
01:14:40.439 --> 01:14:43.840
<v Speaker 1>family and they doubt you and tell you that it

1319
01:14:43.920 --> 01:14:46.760
<v Speaker 1>was probably just a deer a bear. And I have

1320
01:14:47.680 --> 01:14:52.079
<v Speaker 1>talked to people who've encounter bigfoot and shortly after their

1321
01:14:52.119 --> 01:14:55.439
<v Speaker 1>wives ended up leaving, and that's a sad thing.

1322
01:14:57.479 --> 01:14:59.199
<v Speaker 2>Well, I think part of that is because you just

1323
01:14:59.279 --> 01:15:03.520
<v Speaker 2>can't think of you're you become obsessed with you know,

1324
01:15:03.600 --> 01:15:05.439
<v Speaker 2>if you really know what it was, if you've really

1325
01:15:05.479 --> 01:15:07.640
<v Speaker 2>got a good look at it, you're like, oh man,

1326
01:15:07.960 --> 01:15:10.920
<v Speaker 2>oh they're they're real, They're real. Wow, And then you

1327
01:15:10.960 --> 01:15:14.520
<v Speaker 2>want to know more, and then that drives the wedge

1328
01:15:14.600 --> 01:15:15.600
<v Speaker 2>between you and your partner.

1329
01:15:17.479 --> 01:15:19.399
<v Speaker 1>Yeah. I've also spoken to a lot of people who

1330
01:15:19.359 --> 01:15:22.479
<v Speaker 1>have seen these things and their partners are completely supportive

1331
01:15:22.600 --> 01:15:26.319
<v Speaker 1>and they've had healthy relationships. It can go both ways,

1332
01:15:27.239 --> 01:15:29.199
<v Speaker 1>Oh yeah, they can.

1333
01:15:29.840 --> 01:15:33.640
<v Speaker 2>I'm sure there are some instances where it helps people

1334
01:15:34.279 --> 01:15:36.479
<v Speaker 2>to get their life together when they see something like that,

1335
01:15:37.039 --> 01:15:42.439
<v Speaker 2>because they start questioning anything and everything and looking for answers,

1336
01:15:42.479 --> 01:15:46.920
<v Speaker 2>and it helps them. I think it's sometimes it does

1337
01:15:47.000 --> 01:15:49.399
<v Speaker 2>help them to get their life together when they start

1338
01:15:49.439 --> 01:15:52.880
<v Speaker 2>being you know, something makes them forces them to become

1339
01:15:52.880 --> 01:15:54.359
<v Speaker 2>more focused and pay more attention.

1340
01:15:56.840 --> 01:16:00.159
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, for sure. And I don't oh man, I just

1341
01:16:00.199 --> 01:16:00.760
<v Speaker 1>can't imagine.

1342
01:16:00.760 --> 01:16:03.119
<v Speaker 2>I can't. I can't. I can't prove anything, and this

1343
01:16:03.239 --> 01:16:06.399
<v Speaker 2>is just just my impression of everything. But I'm not

1344
01:16:06.439 --> 01:16:07.399
<v Speaker 2>afraid to tell it to you.

1345
01:16:08.520 --> 01:16:11.920
<v Speaker 1>Yeah. Absolutely, And I appreciate the way you relay this

1346
01:16:12.000 --> 01:16:15.399
<v Speaker 1>information and you were the real deal. I really appreciate

1347
01:16:15.439 --> 01:16:18.119
<v Speaker 1>your kindness and I wish there was more people like

1348
01:16:18.159 --> 01:16:19.479
<v Speaker 1>you on this in this planet. Man.

1349
01:16:20.600 --> 01:16:24.079
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, Well, the way I look at it's kind of

1350
01:16:24.079 --> 01:16:27.680
<v Speaker 2>like being neighbors. You know, we can't share unless we

1351
01:16:27.760 --> 01:16:29.960
<v Speaker 2>take the first step. You know, you got to say, hey,

1352
01:16:30.800 --> 01:16:33.479
<v Speaker 2>you know, I got something. If you're interested, you know,

1353
01:16:33.520 --> 01:16:38.039
<v Speaker 2>and if it's it might be important to you, well

1354
01:16:38.079 --> 01:16:40.039
<v Speaker 2>you could just ignore, you know, turn your back and

1355
01:16:40.079 --> 01:16:42.840
<v Speaker 2>just ignore everybody. Well, that's no way to be. There's

1356
01:16:42.880 --> 01:16:47.399
<v Speaker 2>are different like like Chuck in Arizona. He thinks we

1357
01:16:47.479 --> 01:16:50.560
<v Speaker 2>all need to be friends with him because he hasn't

1358
01:16:50.560 --> 01:16:55.399
<v Speaker 2>had a bad experience and he's had so much mind

1359
01:16:55.439 --> 01:17:00.039
<v Speaker 2>speak from all over the country, even from Russia, and

1360
01:17:00.039 --> 01:17:03.520
<v Speaker 2>if you watch his channel, you're going to see some

1361
01:17:03.560 --> 01:17:07.000
<v Speaker 2>mind blowing stuff. And he's just like me. He talks

1362
01:17:07.079 --> 01:17:09.199
<v Speaker 2>just like me. He'll tell you, tell you what he

1363
01:17:09.239 --> 01:17:11.560
<v Speaker 2>saw and what he thinks, and and then you can

1364
01:17:11.600 --> 01:17:13.720
<v Speaker 2>take it and run with it. Or or ignore it.

1365
01:17:13.720 --> 01:17:15.880
<v Speaker 2>It doesn't matter, you know, it just it is what

1366
01:17:15.920 --> 01:17:18.279
<v Speaker 2>it is, and uh, he's just putting it out there

1367
01:17:18.279 --> 01:17:19.319
<v Speaker 2>for those that are interested.

1368
01:17:20.800 --> 01:17:25.079
<v Speaker 1>Yeah. Absolutely, there's two sides to the coin. And I

1369
01:17:25.199 --> 01:17:27.680
<v Speaker 1>just feel like, you know, you can't trust these things

1370
01:17:27.680 --> 01:17:30.399
<v Speaker 1>because we don't know their intentions and what they're fully

1371
01:17:30.439 --> 01:17:32.199
<v Speaker 1>capable of. You just never know.

1372
01:17:32.399 --> 01:17:36.560
<v Speaker 2>That's that's the thing is, their abilities are so far

1373
01:17:36.640 --> 01:17:39.680
<v Speaker 2>beyond ours. It's like you're playing with fire.

1374
01:17:41.479 --> 01:17:44.279
<v Speaker 1>Absolutely. Like we discussed earlier, if they told us, we

1375
01:17:44.359 --> 01:17:45.880
<v Speaker 1>probably still wouldn't understand.

1376
01:17:47.159 --> 01:17:53.800
<v Speaker 2>Yeah. Yeah, Well, Chuck says that he's got a few

1377
01:17:53.840 --> 01:17:58.079
<v Speaker 2>people and a handful of Sasquatches that are students. They

1378
01:17:58.119 --> 01:18:02.840
<v Speaker 2>get mind speak lessons from some of the elders regularly.

1379
01:18:03.159 --> 01:18:06.079
<v Speaker 2>They're being told kernels of the truth, and they're even

1380
01:18:06.119 --> 01:18:08.039
<v Speaker 2>being told some of the stuff that's going to come

1381
01:18:08.359 --> 01:18:15.479
<v Speaker 2>in the future. But they are kind of cryptic about

1382
01:18:15.520 --> 01:18:18.720
<v Speaker 2>how they tell you, and they don't have the same

1383
01:18:19.479 --> 01:18:23.199
<v Speaker 2>concept of time that we do at all, so some

1384
01:18:23.279 --> 01:18:26.840
<v Speaker 2>of the stuff doesn't come across in the translation. I

1385
01:18:26.840 --> 01:18:31.359
<v Speaker 2>think some of the things that they're telling humans people

1386
01:18:31.439 --> 01:18:38.920
<v Speaker 2>can't can't understand it fully. But they're saying that there's

1387
01:18:38.960 --> 01:18:41.439
<v Speaker 2>something really powerful going to happen to the world soon.

1388
01:18:42.079 --> 01:18:47.880
<v Speaker 2>It's going to affect them and us. Yeah that's not good.

1389
01:18:48.560 --> 01:18:52.159
<v Speaker 1>Oh man. Yeah, that's scary to think about. And a

1390
01:18:52.159 --> 01:18:54.359
<v Speaker 1>lot of people talk about how these things are just

1391
01:18:54.479 --> 01:18:58.199
<v Speaker 1>waiting to reveal themselves.

1392
01:18:58.520 --> 01:19:00.960
<v Speaker 2>Well, we're going to find out. The Bible says everything

1393
01:19:01.039 --> 01:19:04.880
<v Speaker 2>hidden is going to be revealed, and I believe it. Yeah,

1394
01:19:05.039 --> 01:19:10.880
<v Speaker 2>there's a time and a place for everything, and we're

1395
01:19:10.880 --> 01:19:13.680
<v Speaker 2>going to know. We're going to find out eventually the

1396
01:19:13.720 --> 01:19:16.760
<v Speaker 2>big picture about the Bigfoot and how they fit into

1397
01:19:17.800 --> 01:19:21.239
<v Speaker 2>God's plan and or the Devil's plan or whoever. You know.

1398
01:19:21.680 --> 01:19:23.279
<v Speaker 2>And I don't I don't, like I said before, I

1399
01:19:23.319 --> 01:19:25.399
<v Speaker 2>don't think they're all good, and I don't think they're

1400
01:19:25.439 --> 01:19:29.159
<v Speaker 2>all bad. And I don't think they're all the same individuals.

1401
01:19:29.199 --> 01:19:34.439
<v Speaker 2>And some of the natives have said they're not all

1402
01:19:34.479 --> 01:19:37.800
<v Speaker 2>the same. Some are, some are good, and some are bad,

1403
01:19:37.840 --> 01:19:42.119
<v Speaker 2>and some are supernatural and some are not, and the

1404
01:19:42.279 --> 01:19:45.119
<v Speaker 2>supernatural ones are imitating the good ones and tried to

1405
01:19:45.119 --> 01:19:46.199
<v Speaker 2>give them all a bad name.

1406
01:19:49.039 --> 01:19:51.319
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, that's a good point there. I never thought about that.

1407
01:19:51.439 --> 01:19:56.039
<v Speaker 1>And you know, there could really be like unknown creatures

1408
01:19:56.079 --> 01:19:58.720
<v Speaker 1>out there in the woods, and there could be other

1409
01:19:58.880 --> 01:20:02.840
<v Speaker 1>forms of beings imitating them, trying to deceive us. So

1410
01:20:03.119 --> 01:20:04.960
<v Speaker 1>it's really hard to say. I mean, once you really

1411
01:20:04.960 --> 01:20:07.199
<v Speaker 1>start thinking about it, you just become more confused.

1412
01:20:09.279 --> 01:20:11.720
<v Speaker 2>Well everybody says the more you find out, the less

1413
01:20:11.760 --> 01:20:15.239
<v Speaker 2>you know. Mm hm oh, yeah, you find out there

1414
01:20:15.279 --> 01:20:19.760
<v Speaker 2>is so much going on, and it's just how do

1415
01:20:19.840 --> 01:20:22.600
<v Speaker 2>you get your You can't get your hands on a knowledge.

1416
01:20:22.720 --> 01:20:25.119
<v Speaker 2>It has to come to you, you know.

1417
01:20:25.840 --> 01:20:28.039
<v Speaker 1>Yeah. One thing we can say for certain is these

1418
01:20:28.079 --> 01:20:29.479
<v Speaker 1>things are out there in the forest.

1419
01:20:30.960 --> 01:20:35.560
<v Speaker 2>Well I can't say. It's just like anything, you have

1420
01:20:35.640 --> 01:20:37.520
<v Speaker 2>to find out for yourself where it's not real, it's

1421
01:20:37.560 --> 01:20:43.000
<v Speaker 2>somebody else's knowledge. Once you find out for yourself, then

1422
01:20:43.039 --> 01:20:46.119
<v Speaker 2>you know you're not just going on somebody else's words.

1423
01:20:47.000 --> 01:20:50.159
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, for sure, I don't expect anyone to believe my encounters,

1424
01:20:50.239 --> 01:20:53.279
<v Speaker 1>but it does help others who have seen these things,

1425
01:20:53.319 --> 01:20:55.680
<v Speaker 1>and it might help people that run into them.

1426
01:20:56.560 --> 01:20:59.680
<v Speaker 2>So I have no doubt. There's got to be people

1427
01:20:59.720 --> 01:21:03.239
<v Speaker 2>that are just thinking they're going crazy. Are people who

1428
01:21:04.000 --> 01:21:07.359
<v Speaker 2>just can't handle it. They're just driving them crazy, you know,

1429
01:21:08.000 --> 01:21:10.600
<v Speaker 2>whether they're scared the disk to do anything. They can't

1430
01:21:10.640 --> 01:21:13.199
<v Speaker 2>go out of their house, they can't you know, be

1431
01:21:13.279 --> 01:21:16.359
<v Speaker 2>anywhere or can't go hiding and fishing anymore, they can't

1432
01:21:16.399 --> 01:21:17.079
<v Speaker 2>go in the forest.

1433
01:21:19.039 --> 01:21:22.159
<v Speaker 1>M hm oh, yeah, for sure. It seems like these

1434
01:21:22.159 --> 01:21:24.600
<v Speaker 1>things like to target people who live way out in

1435
01:21:24.600 --> 01:21:28.039
<v Speaker 1>the middle of nowhere by themselves. It's like, who's going

1436
01:21:28.079 --> 01:21:31.199
<v Speaker 1>to believe you? You're by yourself, and that's a scary situation.

1437
01:21:31.319 --> 01:21:33.520
<v Speaker 1>It's like you're on your own in the middle of nowhere.

1438
01:21:33.640 --> 01:21:40.760
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, or somebody who isn't doesn't have any real standing

1439
01:21:40.800 --> 01:21:43.560
<v Speaker 2>in the community. Well, they wouldn't believe them anyway, you know,

1440
01:21:43.800 --> 01:21:44.800
<v Speaker 2>let's go play with them.

1441
01:21:46.840 --> 01:21:49.920
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, for sure, it seems like they know who to target.

1442
01:21:51.239 --> 01:21:57.039
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, well, it's weird, really weird that we could never

1443
01:21:57.119 --> 01:21:58.880
<v Speaker 2>know what they know. I know that.

1444
01:22:00.439 --> 01:22:03.279
<v Speaker 1>They got to be super intelligent to have ahead the

1445
01:22:03.359 --> 01:22:05.800
<v Speaker 1>size of a bucket or the diameter of a full

1446
01:22:05.840 --> 01:22:08.159
<v Speaker 1>sized pine tree, or like the size of a bison.

1447
01:22:08.560 --> 01:22:11.920
<v Speaker 1>You know, they're intelligent. I mean that. Well that goes

1448
01:22:11.960 --> 01:22:12.560
<v Speaker 1>without saying.

1449
01:22:13.880 --> 01:22:19.439
<v Speaker 2>Well, the government, that's a whole nother ballgame. When the

1450
01:22:19.479 --> 01:22:22.880
<v Speaker 2>gut you know about the government and the Smithsonian and whatnot,

1451
01:22:23.119 --> 01:22:24.800
<v Speaker 2>you know, trying to do away with all the bodies

1452
01:22:24.840 --> 01:22:28.680
<v Speaker 2>and keep it quiet. And I've had black helicopter. Hear

1453
01:22:28.760 --> 01:22:32.680
<v Speaker 2>on my property with no markings and guys, four guys

1454
01:22:32.680 --> 01:22:36.119
<v Speaker 2>hanging out the doors, hovering over a tree, you know,

1455
01:22:36.520 --> 01:22:38.760
<v Speaker 2>fifty feet off the ground. Just give me an evil eye.

1456
01:22:39.319 --> 01:22:40.960
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I've had that same experience here.

1457
01:22:40.960 --> 01:22:43.439
<v Speaker 2>What are you doing here? What are you doing here?

1458
01:22:44.239 --> 01:22:47.359
<v Speaker 2>M They may have been hunting for sasquatch.

1459
01:22:47.920 --> 01:22:51.119
<v Speaker 1>I think so, because when the blackhawks were here, there

1460
01:22:51.239 --> 01:22:53.920
<v Speaker 1>was a lot of Sasquatch activity and it was constant,

1461
01:22:53.960 --> 01:22:56.279
<v Speaker 1>like every other day you'd see them flying over the

1462
01:22:56.319 --> 01:22:58.880
<v Speaker 1>trees and they did the same thing. One just hovered

1463
01:22:58.960 --> 01:23:02.199
<v Speaker 1>right above me and I could see the pilot looking

1464
01:23:02.279 --> 01:23:05.279
<v Speaker 1>down at me. He was wearing a helmet, and he

1465
01:23:05.359 --> 01:23:06.880
<v Speaker 1>just gave me the deaths there. I felt like I

1466
01:23:06.920 --> 01:23:08.119
<v Speaker 1>was going to get shot in the back.

1467
01:23:09.199 --> 01:23:11.279
<v Speaker 2>Oh yeah, these guys were giving me the evil eye.

1468
01:23:11.600 --> 01:23:13.880
<v Speaker 2>None of the guys had helmets on, but the pilots.

1469
01:23:13.920 --> 01:23:17.600
<v Speaker 2>And this is one of those smaller McDonald doug was

1470
01:23:17.640 --> 01:23:22.119
<v Speaker 2>five hundred t high speed kill squad helicopters. You know,

1471
01:23:22.520 --> 01:23:24.760
<v Speaker 2>they just a bunch of guys hang out the door

1472
01:23:25.079 --> 01:23:29.119
<v Speaker 2>with rifles and shoot. And all these guys had black uniforms,

1473
01:23:29.159 --> 01:23:31.079
<v Speaker 2>would know insignia. They were close enough. I could see

1474
01:23:31.079 --> 01:23:33.680
<v Speaker 2>they didn't have any patches on the uniforms, but they're

1475
01:23:33.680 --> 01:23:38.199
<v Speaker 2>all wearing the same uniforms. Yeah, and the helicopter was black.

1476
01:23:38.439 --> 01:23:42.279
<v Speaker 2>Would know insignia whatever whatsoever. It was like black ops

1477
01:23:42.359 --> 01:23:44.479
<v Speaker 2>kind of deal that nobody's supposed to know about. And

1478
01:23:44.760 --> 01:23:46.720
<v Speaker 2>I'm not I'll bet you they could fight to the

1479
01:23:46.760 --> 01:23:52.119
<v Speaker 2>closest Air Force base and playing minutes soho. And we

1480
01:23:52.239 --> 01:23:54.159
<v Speaker 2>have a survival school here in this county for the

1481
01:23:54.199 --> 01:23:57.159
<v Speaker 2>Air Force, but you know that's the main one in

1482
01:23:57.199 --> 01:24:00.800
<v Speaker 2>the country. I think they fly up here and drop

1483
01:24:00.840 --> 01:24:03.359
<v Speaker 2>the guys off and do the survival thing, you know,

1484
01:24:03.479 --> 01:24:07.800
<v Speaker 2>escape and evasion and learn all that. But I'm sure

1485
01:24:07.840 --> 01:24:11.479
<v Speaker 2>those guys were something different. Yeah, the guys in the

1486
01:24:11.479 --> 01:24:14.600
<v Speaker 2>black helicopter, I don't think they were associated with that

1487
01:24:14.680 --> 01:24:17.720
<v Speaker 2>at all. I think they were shadow government guys.

1488
01:24:18.039 --> 01:24:20.399
<v Speaker 1>I think so too. I Mean, it was hard enough

1489
01:24:20.439 --> 01:24:23.079
<v Speaker 1>dealing with the Bigfoot. It's like what are they doing here?

1490
01:24:23.119 --> 01:24:26.840
<v Speaker 1>But then when you see the shadow government or whatever

1491
01:24:26.880 --> 01:24:30.960
<v Speaker 1>it is military around, it's like what the heck's going on?

1492
01:24:31.079 --> 01:24:35.880
<v Speaker 1>And just the ORBS, the UFOs, other cryptids, it's like

1493
01:24:35.960 --> 01:24:38.520
<v Speaker 1>there's something going on here. And it was definitely like

1494
01:24:38.600 --> 01:24:40.279
<v Speaker 1>a skinwalker ranch situation.

1495
01:24:42.439 --> 01:24:45.960
<v Speaker 2>Yeap, And there's a it's going to come to life

1496
01:24:45.960 --> 01:24:49.039
<v Speaker 2>one day, Miguel. People are going to start finding out

1497
01:24:49.039 --> 01:24:50.359
<v Speaker 2>what's really going on, I believe.

1498
01:24:52.000 --> 01:24:55.359
<v Speaker 1>I think so. No, no, they can't.

1499
01:24:55.439 --> 01:24:58.399
<v Speaker 2>And I think when the time comes to Sasquat, you're

1500
01:24:58.439 --> 01:25:02.000
<v Speaker 2>gonna tell us the good one. They're gonna tell us

1501
01:25:02.000 --> 01:25:02.800
<v Speaker 2>what's going on. I do.

1502
01:25:03.760 --> 01:25:06.199
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, And then we're gonna have to discern is that

1503
01:25:06.239 --> 01:25:11.199
<v Speaker 1>information actually accurate or are we being deceived? And yeah,

1504
01:25:11.279 --> 01:25:14.920
<v Speaker 1>we'll just become more confused with the more information.

1505
01:25:14.479 --> 01:25:17.800
<v Speaker 2>That we figure out are we interpreting it wrong.

1506
01:25:20.359 --> 01:25:23.319
<v Speaker 1>I think whatever happens in the future is definitely going

1507
01:25:23.439 --> 01:25:28.119
<v Speaker 1>to challenge religion and science and just the world as

1508
01:25:28.159 --> 01:25:28.520
<v Speaker 1>we know it.

1509
01:25:30.119 --> 01:25:35.520
<v Speaker 2>Oh yes, I agree with that. I understand. It's just

1510
01:25:35.560 --> 01:25:39.600
<v Speaker 2>becoming more and more apparent that what is normal to

1511
01:25:39.800 --> 01:25:43.039
<v Speaker 2>us is is that's not all there is. There's a

1512
01:25:43.119 --> 01:25:43.800
<v Speaker 2>lot more.

1513
01:25:46.600 --> 01:25:49.439
<v Speaker 1>Yeah. It's hard enough just to understand politics, let alone

1514
01:25:49.479 --> 01:25:53.319
<v Speaker 1>when you're talking about big foot aliens and shadow governments.

1515
01:25:53.720 --> 01:25:56.439
<v Speaker 2>Oh yeah. And then there's you know, the dimensional thing.

1516
01:25:57.960 --> 01:26:03.000
<v Speaker 2>Scientists say there's eleven dimensions that east and these things

1517
01:26:03.079 --> 01:26:11.760
<v Speaker 2>disappear and reappear, and they uh, they told Chuck. Today,

1518
01:26:12.239 --> 01:26:17.800
<v Speaker 2>they're having a big Sasquatch gathering because of the solstice,

1519
01:26:18.119 --> 01:26:26.800
<v Speaker 2>and they get together and they can travel by portal

1520
01:26:28.199 --> 01:26:31.479
<v Speaker 2>great distances in just a tiny bit of time.

1521
01:26:34.119 --> 01:26:37.680
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, that would make sense. I mean, there's a lot

1522
01:26:37.720 --> 01:26:40.880
<v Speaker 1>of reports out there throughout North America and they're pretty

1523
01:26:40.920 --> 01:26:43.880
<v Speaker 1>much describing the clan a Sasquatch that I've seen here

1524
01:26:43.920 --> 01:26:46.760
<v Speaker 1>in Missouri. It makes me wonder. I've heard people say

1525
01:26:46.800 --> 01:26:50.119
<v Speaker 1>that it's the same ones, they're just traveling two different areas,

1526
01:26:50.199 --> 01:26:51.119
<v Speaker 1>like interdimensionally.

1527
01:26:51.199 --> 01:26:53.840
<v Speaker 2>Have you seen have you seen the face of one?

1528
01:26:54.680 --> 01:26:55.319
<v Speaker 1>Yeah? I have.

1529
01:26:56.720 --> 01:26:57.800
<v Speaker 2>What kind of face to have?

1530
01:26:58.800 --> 01:27:02.640
<v Speaker 1>The adult one that I encountered, it had like a

1531
01:27:02.720 --> 01:27:08.760
<v Speaker 1>round head, almond black eyes, long thin lips, flat nose

1532
01:27:08.920 --> 01:27:12.159
<v Speaker 1>like old and wrinkly skin like an old Native American.

1533
01:27:12.479 --> 01:27:15.479
<v Speaker 1>But the juvenile that I encountered, it looked completely different.

1534
01:27:15.520 --> 01:27:20.319
<v Speaker 1>This thing was covered in and fur and he had big, round,

1535
01:27:20.359 --> 01:27:24.199
<v Speaker 1>wide eyes and a huge, conical shaped head. I mean

1536
01:27:24.479 --> 01:27:26.159
<v Speaker 1>they've all looked a little different.

1537
01:27:27.159 --> 01:27:28.960
<v Speaker 2>Well, all humans look different too.

1538
01:27:29.720 --> 01:27:30.039
<v Speaker 1>M hm.

1539
01:27:31.239 --> 01:27:33.560
<v Speaker 2>You could take the weirdest looking person you've ever seen,

1540
01:27:35.000 --> 01:27:38.079
<v Speaker 2>and you know, a person from Vady contest or a

1541
01:27:38.119 --> 01:27:43.479
<v Speaker 2>movie star, and they're way different. You know. Yeah, and

1542
01:27:43.520 --> 01:27:46.039
<v Speaker 2>there's a lot of variation between us. Why wouldn't there

1543
01:27:46.039 --> 01:27:48.760
<v Speaker 2>be between them? You know, like the ones in my dream,

1544
01:27:49.560 --> 01:27:52.760
<v Speaker 2>The smaller coco brown one look like a person with

1545
01:27:52.840 --> 01:27:57.840
<v Speaker 2>hair all over, you know, and the other and it

1546
01:27:57.880 --> 01:28:00.920
<v Speaker 2>looked like it could have been anybody, maybe a little

1547
01:28:00.920 --> 01:28:03.479
<v Speaker 2>bit Afro American, you know kind of face. But the

1548
01:28:03.520 --> 01:28:07.960
<v Speaker 2>big one, he kind of looked like Native American, a black,

1549
01:28:08.319 --> 01:28:13.600
<v Speaker 2>black skin, kind of a long nose, big jaw, big big,

1550
01:28:13.640 --> 01:28:22.079
<v Speaker 2>broad rage conical head and no neck. Uh. He must

1551
01:28:22.119 --> 01:28:25.680
<v Speaker 2>have had fairly long here because I don't remember a

1552
01:28:25.680 --> 01:28:28.000
<v Speaker 2>lot of muscle definition. Just he was massive.

1553
01:28:29.880 --> 01:28:33.159
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I mean, that definitely makes sense as far as

1554
01:28:33.199 --> 01:28:35.640
<v Speaker 1>they all look different, But this was like the same clan,

1555
01:28:35.760 --> 01:28:38.560
<v Speaker 1>the same family, and it's almost like one look like

1556
01:28:38.680 --> 01:28:41.680
<v Speaker 1>Taylor Swift, the other one looked like Shaquille O'Neal, and

1557
01:28:41.760 --> 01:28:44.359
<v Speaker 1>one looked like Rosie o'donald, Like you know what I mean,

1558
01:28:44.439 --> 01:28:48.239
<v Speaker 1>Like in a family, like they should look similar, like, oh,

1559
01:28:48.279 --> 01:28:50.640
<v Speaker 1>I can tell that that's your brother. But that's not

1560
01:28:50.680 --> 01:28:51.600
<v Speaker 1>always the case, right.

1561
01:28:53.560 --> 01:28:57.640
<v Speaker 2>I've heard that if the female Sasquatch isn't faithful, the

1562
01:28:57.720 --> 01:29:03.439
<v Speaker 2>male or just dumper walk away. So they're not DNA

1563
01:29:03.600 --> 01:29:12.199
<v Speaker 2>testing their kids to see who's the father, so they

1564
01:29:12.239 --> 01:29:16.359
<v Speaker 2>could come up with some different looking kids, you know, Yeah,

1565
01:29:16.640 --> 01:29:20.520
<v Speaker 2>don't necessarily look like one of the other parents. Mhm.

1566
01:29:21.119 --> 01:29:25.640
<v Speaker 2>But they do supposedly, they do expect that they're mate

1567
01:29:25.640 --> 01:29:29.359
<v Speaker 2>to be faithful. They don't. They're just not like animals.

1568
01:29:29.880 --> 01:29:31.279
<v Speaker 2>They have morals too.

1569
01:29:32.319 --> 01:29:33.720
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I could see that for sure.

1570
01:29:35.039 --> 01:29:38.359
<v Speaker 2>They're just they're too smart to be now anything animalistic

1571
01:29:38.359 --> 01:29:40.640
<v Speaker 2>at all, other than you know, their power and the

1572
01:29:40.640 --> 01:29:43.920
<v Speaker 2>way they go through the their forest and whatnot.

1573
01:29:45.600 --> 01:29:45.840
<v Speaker 1>Yeah.

1574
01:29:46.000 --> 01:29:48.359
<v Speaker 2>Now they if they didn't have if they didn't have

1575
01:29:48.439 --> 01:29:52.520
<v Speaker 2>hair and new work clothes, people could probably accept them.

1576
01:29:53.399 --> 01:29:53.800
<v Speaker 2>Mm hmm.

1577
01:29:55.600 --> 01:30:00.840
<v Speaker 1>Yeah. Well, there's definitely a lot to think about this podcast,

1578
01:30:00.960 --> 01:30:05.079
<v Speaker 1>and I'm definitely going to, I don't know, give me

1579
01:30:05.159 --> 01:30:06.319
<v Speaker 1>more insight for the future.

1580
01:30:08.479 --> 01:30:10.600
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, you just got to have an open mind or

1581
01:30:12.640 --> 01:30:16.600
<v Speaker 2>you're stupid. I mean, yeah, you have to pay attention.

1582
01:30:17.439 --> 01:30:19.359
<v Speaker 2>The more you learn, the more your head's on a swivel,

1583
01:30:19.960 --> 01:30:22.399
<v Speaker 2>the more your ears are peaked, Like what what did

1584
01:30:22.399 --> 01:30:26.039
<v Speaker 2>I I walk out? Sorr. I'm always listening good night anymore,

1585
01:30:27.520 --> 01:30:30.199
<v Speaker 2>you know, and take a light and if I'm going

1586
01:30:30.279 --> 01:30:33.880
<v Speaker 2>very far, I take a gun. Who knows what's out there.

1587
01:30:34.560 --> 01:30:37.880
<v Speaker 1>Yeah. Absolutely. The best researcher is the one that remains

1588
01:30:37.920 --> 01:30:42.399
<v Speaker 1>open minded to all the possibilities. And I feel like

1589
01:30:42.640 --> 01:30:45.800
<v Speaker 1>researchers that say, like anyone who sees a dog man

1590
01:30:45.880 --> 01:30:49.479
<v Speaker 1>is probably on medication or misidentified a bigfoot, things like that,

1591
01:30:49.680 --> 01:30:53.600
<v Speaker 1>you're closing yourself off. And it's just good to be

1592
01:30:53.640 --> 01:30:55.439
<v Speaker 1>open minded in case you run into it and you

1593
01:30:55.479 --> 01:30:57.479
<v Speaker 1>can say, Okay, this is what's going on.

1594
01:30:58.680 --> 01:31:04.239
<v Speaker 2>Oh yeah. I used to say, well, bigfoots just somebody's

1595
01:31:04.279 --> 01:31:07.319
<v Speaker 2>somebody's lying. You know, I haven't seen them. I've been

1596
01:31:07.319 --> 01:31:09.319
<v Speaker 2>in the woods twenty years. I never saw anything like that.

1597
01:31:09.520 --> 01:31:12.279
<v Speaker 2>Not there. I don't know anybody that's ever seen anything

1598
01:31:12.319 --> 01:31:15.239
<v Speaker 2>like that. It can't be. And then you know UFOs

1599
01:31:15.239 --> 01:31:19.039
<v Speaker 2>and stuff. Until you see one, it's undeniable. It's right

1600
01:31:19.079 --> 01:31:25.119
<v Speaker 2>there and it's impossible. You have to start thinking what

1601
01:31:25.279 --> 01:31:27.039
<v Speaker 2>else it's impossible is real?

1602
01:31:28.840 --> 01:31:31.399
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I agree with you, And there's the same way

1603
01:31:31.439 --> 01:31:34.119
<v Speaker 1>with me. I mean, I was open to it, but

1604
01:31:34.159 --> 01:31:36.319
<v Speaker 1>then I was like, I don't know about all this,

1605
01:31:37.239 --> 01:31:39.359
<v Speaker 1>and then I had the encounters and it's like, wow,

1606
01:31:39.399 --> 01:31:40.439
<v Speaker 1>all those people.

1607
01:31:40.119 --> 01:31:45.880
<v Speaker 2>Were right, Yeah, and how many of them? How many,

1608
01:31:46.479 --> 01:31:50.439
<v Speaker 2>hundreds of thousands over the years have had experiences and

1609
01:31:50.520 --> 01:31:55.800
<v Speaker 2>nobody wilieved them and might even cost somebody's life. Like

1610
01:31:56.439 --> 01:31:58.319
<v Speaker 2>one of those things just tip so and so and

1611
01:31:58.399 --> 01:31:59.720
<v Speaker 2>rent off of the woods with them and they go, oh,

1612
01:31:59.760 --> 01:32:03.239
<v Speaker 2>you're crazy. They just wandered off, you know, and then

1613
01:32:03.279 --> 01:32:07.680
<v Speaker 2>it happens again, and nobody does anything about it.

1614
01:32:08.680 --> 01:32:11.880
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, oh yeah, and they're still doing that today. It's like, oh,

1615
01:32:12.079 --> 01:32:14.560
<v Speaker 1>it was just due to mental health. They got lost

1616
01:32:14.600 --> 01:32:18.199
<v Speaker 1>in the woods, and you just never know, and just

1617
01:32:18.399 --> 01:32:21.079
<v Speaker 1>people keep going missing. So it's hard to say.

1618
01:32:22.239 --> 01:32:23.840
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I think a lot of that slip under the

1619
01:32:23.880 --> 01:32:27.520
<v Speaker 2>rug missing people.

1620
01:32:28.920 --> 01:32:31.640
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, they just give us the logical explanation, not the

1621
01:32:32.479 --> 01:32:35.039
<v Speaker 1>cryptid out of the norm explanation.

1622
01:32:35.880 --> 01:32:38.680
<v Speaker 2>How many times has somebody said, the monster took my

1623
01:32:38.760 --> 01:32:45.239
<v Speaker 2>kid or whatever, They just lock them in the nuthouse. Yeah,

1624
01:32:45.439 --> 01:32:46.640
<v Speaker 2>that had to happen before.

1625
01:32:48.960 --> 01:32:50.279
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, that's scary to think about.

1626
01:32:51.439 --> 01:32:55.000
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, well, just take it one day at a time

1627
01:32:55.039 --> 01:32:59.000
<v Speaker 2>and be careful and pay attention, and that's all you

1628
01:32:59.039 --> 01:32:59.359
<v Speaker 2>can do.

1629
01:33:01.000 --> 01:33:04.720
<v Speaker 1>Absolutely, I agree with you, And yeah, Renee, you did

1630
01:33:04.760 --> 01:33:08.119
<v Speaker 1>an excellent job, and I really appreciate you for opening

1631
01:33:08.199 --> 01:33:11.359
<v Speaker 1>up about these experiences that you've had. And I've always

1632
01:33:11.359 --> 01:33:14.640
<v Speaker 1>wondered to myself, if there's loggers out there who have

1633
01:33:14.760 --> 01:33:17.760
<v Speaker 1>ran into these creatures and maybe they're just not telling anyone.

1634
01:33:18.000 --> 01:33:20.760
<v Speaker 1>So in this case, I'm glad that you reached out

1635
01:33:20.800 --> 01:33:24.039
<v Speaker 1>to me and you were open about everything you've experienced.

1636
01:33:25.279 --> 01:33:30.800
<v Speaker 2>Yeah. I literally ran into one fifty hour. I never

1637
01:33:30.920 --> 01:33:35.119
<v Speaker 2>saw the face, so maybe it was a different crypto,

1638
01:33:35.199 --> 01:33:37.560
<v Speaker 2>but it was on four legs and it was good.

1639
01:33:37.760 --> 01:33:40.319
<v Speaker 2>You know, the description of a dog man and stuff

1640
01:33:40.600 --> 01:33:47.319
<v Speaker 2>doesn't match. This thing was proportions that they give to

1641
01:33:47.359 --> 01:33:48.399
<v Speaker 2>the Sasquatch.

1642
01:33:51.319 --> 01:33:54.800
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, and that just tells me that they're closer than

1643
01:33:54.840 --> 01:33:57.359
<v Speaker 1>what people may think. If they're by the job site

1644
01:33:57.520 --> 01:34:01.279
<v Speaker 1>or on the highway. They're not just in the deepest,

1645
01:34:01.359 --> 01:34:04.319
<v Speaker 1>most remote for us. They're watching us, that's for sure.

1646
01:34:04.600 --> 01:34:07.319
<v Speaker 2>Oh oh yeah, definitely. I think the cloak and they

1647
01:34:07.319 --> 01:34:10.880
<v Speaker 2>go into town and I see what they can find.

1648
01:34:12.000 --> 01:34:13.800
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, that's scary to think about it.

1649
01:34:13.920 --> 01:34:15.960
<v Speaker 2>Not all of them. Well, you know, you've got to

1650
01:34:16.079 --> 01:34:21.079
<v Speaker 2>stop and think. If you're a hunting and there's krugers

1651
01:34:21.119 --> 01:34:23.159
<v Speaker 2>in the area, the greatest threat is going to be

1652
01:34:23.159 --> 01:34:27.000
<v Speaker 2>either juvenile it's not very wise or something, or an

1653
01:34:27.000 --> 01:34:29.239
<v Speaker 2>older one that's getting too old, hot and asked to

1654
01:34:29.279 --> 01:34:33.279
<v Speaker 2>find an angle to get easy killed. You know, the

1655
01:34:33.279 --> 01:34:35.119
<v Speaker 2>ones that are in their prime are going to stay

1656
01:34:35.119 --> 01:34:39.560
<v Speaker 2>away from people in any dangerous areas. And I think

1657
01:34:39.600 --> 01:34:42.079
<v Speaker 2>that the same thing goes for the ones that go

1658
01:34:42.119 --> 01:34:44.359
<v Speaker 2>into town or whatever. I think it's the younger ones

1659
01:34:44.600 --> 01:34:47.479
<v Speaker 2>and the ones that can't hardly survive on with their

1660
01:34:47.520 --> 01:34:50.640
<v Speaker 2>own abilities anymore. They're going to be looking for something

1661
01:34:50.680 --> 01:34:56.880
<v Speaker 2>easy and taking more chances, just like animals.

1662
01:34:58.399 --> 01:34:59.720
<v Speaker 1>I agree with that for sure.

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<v Speaker 2>You and I would do the same thing in the

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<v Speaker 2>same situation. We would try to find an angle, find

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<v Speaker 2>an angle where we could survive easier if we're having

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<v Speaker 2>too much of a struggle or if our judgment is poor.

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<v Speaker 2>You know, young guys in diff in prison and dead

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<v Speaker 2>because of some of their stupid decisions, and you live

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<v Speaker 2>long enough to give some wisdom, you don't. You don't

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<v Speaker 2>take those risks anymore.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah. Absolutely, these things are opportunistic beings and that's just

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<v Speaker 1>how it is.

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<v Speaker 2>Mm hm. Well, one thing about it is once once

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<v Speaker 2>you have come, they come across you, you come across them,

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<v Speaker 2>the game is on and other things are going to happen.

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<v Speaker 2>You're going to run across them again. And I think

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<v Speaker 2>We're going to find out the truth about them in

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<v Speaker 2>the future if we live long enough. Why they're here,

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<v Speaker 2>what they're doing, you know.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, all up, I think so too, and I think

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<v Speaker 1>it's gonna be something that just completely rocks our foundation,

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<v Speaker 1>and I just hope we can handle it.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't think we're gonna be able to, but we're

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<v Speaker 2>gonna have to, right, Yeah, I don't think we're gonna

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<v Speaker 2>have The government's not gonna support us in anything. It's

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<v Speaker 2>going to be just the people. Yeah, what Steve says,

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<v Speaker 2>he says it all the time. You know, it's it's

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<v Speaker 2>up to the people. It's not the government. It doesn't

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<v Speaker 2>want us to know.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, the information war is true, and that's what we're

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<v Speaker 1>dealing with with the sasquatch topic and many many other things.

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<v Speaker 1>All right, Renee, Well I'm gonna let you go for now,

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<v Speaker 1>and I really appreciate your time. If you encounter anything

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<v Speaker 1>else in the future, feel free to reach out to me.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, all right, I'll do it.

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<v Speaker 1>All right, Thank you so much for everything, and I'm

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<v Speaker 1>extremely grateful.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, no problem. I like to share if I think

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<v Speaker 2>you can do any good.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, well, you came to the right place.

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<v Speaker 2>All right, Well, you have a good day.

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<v Speaker 1>All right, you two, and you take care of yourself, okay.

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<v Speaker 2>All right, I will.

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<v Speaker 1>Renee's experiences raise a lot of questions, especially for people

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<v Speaker 1>who spend their lives outdoors. If these encounters happen the

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<v Speaker 1>way he remembers them, why didn't they become more violent?

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01:37:31.159 --> 01:37:35.800
<v Speaker 1>Were the screams, the roads being blocked by trees, rock clacks,

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<v Speaker 1>and the vehicle incident acts of intimidation, communication, or simply

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01:37:42.439 --> 01:37:47.000
<v Speaker 1>territorial behavior. Whether you agree with Renee's conclusions or not,

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<v Speaker 1>one thing stands out. After decades in logging and in

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01:37:51.479 --> 01:37:56.560
<v Speaker 1>remote wilderness, he says, these experiences never felt random. If

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<v Speaker 1>you've had encounters in northern California around Mount Last logging roads,

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01:38:01.399 --> 01:38:06.039
<v Speaker 1>remote camps, or have experienced strange screams, structures, voices, or

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<v Speaker 1>unexplained activity in the woods, send your encounter to sasquatch theory.

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<v Speaker 1>I would really like to hear about it. Renee nailed

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<v Speaker 1>it on the head when he said he didn't only

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<v Speaker 1>run into his sasquatch, the sasquatch ran into him. And

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<v Speaker 1>can you imagine the power this creature had to fully

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<v Speaker 1>stop a vehicle that was moving fifty five miles an

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<v Speaker 1>hour on a highway. It had been pretty powerful and

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<v Speaker 1>it didn't injure the Sasquatch. It ran off into the woods,

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<v Speaker 1>and I really do feel like he disrupted their habitat

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<v Speaker 1>and they were simply being territorial. If you enjoy today's episode,

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<v Speaker 1>subscribe to the channel. Feel free to share your own encounter,

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<v Speaker 1>and until the next one, you guys be safe out

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<v Speaker 1>in the woods.