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So I'm gonna well, see this 10 00:00:30,960 --> 00:00:32,640 is tough because I've done all this show prep and 11 00:00:32,679 --> 00:00:34,719 these are timely stories that I need to get to. 12 00:00:34,799 --> 00:00:38,000 But people still are, you know, texting and emailing about 13 00:00:38,359 --> 00:00:43,159 the last hour's topic on the release of a lot 14 00:00:43,200 --> 00:00:48,079 of these Epstein files and documents and such. And you know, 15 00:00:48,240 --> 00:00:50,880 part of the reason why I take a slow approach 16 00:00:50,960 --> 00:00:54,560 to this is because it is so hyperpartisan and politicized, 17 00:00:55,600 --> 00:00:57,799 and I want to go through and read this stuff 18 00:00:57,840 --> 00:01:01,520 and double check. But because there's there's so much political 19 00:01:01,520 --> 00:01:05,480 motivation behind all of this story, and there has been 20 00:01:05,519 --> 00:01:10,640 from the very beginning, for example, where the left sees 21 00:01:11,200 --> 00:01:15,200 the emails released by the Democrats as somehow proof that 22 00:01:15,239 --> 00:01:19,000 Donald Trump knew what was going on, and this you know, 23 00:01:19,079 --> 00:01:23,239 the dog that didn't bark comment. They keep citing, you know, 24 00:01:23,359 --> 00:01:26,599 there's another interpretation for that, which I'm not sure they've 25 00:01:26,640 --> 00:01:32,079 considered because of their you know, Trump derangement syndrome. But 26 00:01:32,200 --> 00:01:36,840 is it possible that that Donald Trump actually was working 27 00:01:36,920 --> 00:01:45,719 with authorities against Epstein. That's the dog that didn't bark people? Right? 28 00:01:45,959 --> 00:01:50,040 Like if he and if Epstein thinks that Trump knows 29 00:01:50,079 --> 00:01:52,959 too much about, you know, what's going on or something, 30 00:01:54,000 --> 00:01:58,599 then he's worried, particularly because by the time the investigation launched, 31 00:01:58,680 --> 00:02:02,359 Trump had already kicked him out of the club and 32 00:02:03,439 --> 00:02:06,200 refused to associate with him. This is all reported on, 33 00:02:06,280 --> 00:02:10,319 This is all known regardless of And that's the thing. 34 00:02:10,400 --> 00:02:16,159 We don't know what Trump knew about the operations that 35 00:02:16,599 --> 00:02:21,280 Epstein was running. There hasn't been evidence of that. But 36 00:02:21,319 --> 00:02:24,159 then again, like Trump right now is not really behaving 37 00:02:24,280 --> 00:02:28,039 like somebody that is completely innocent. Why are you pulling 38 00:02:28,120 --> 00:02:33,039 Lauren Bobert into the situation room to talk about her 39 00:02:33,199 --> 00:02:38,919 vote on the Epstein files being released? Like to me, 40 00:02:39,159 --> 00:02:41,719 and again, I don't have any more information than anybody 41 00:02:41,719 --> 00:02:44,719 else just reading the reports, but to me, it's quite 42 00:02:44,759 --> 00:02:48,280 possible that Trump realizes there are a lot of people 43 00:02:48,879 --> 00:02:52,960 whose names are going to be part of the release 44 00:02:53,039 --> 00:02:57,639 of the files that did not do anything wrong, but 45 00:02:57,719 --> 00:03:02,159 they're going to be labeled as being friends with Jeffrey Epstein. 46 00:03:02,240 --> 00:03:04,560 And if you want any you know example of this, 47 00:03:04,919 --> 00:03:08,919 look at the conflation of like Peter Teal, Peter Teal 48 00:03:09,080 --> 00:03:12,599 who had some message, had some emails or something that 49 00:03:12,639 --> 00:03:15,800 people have found and they're like, aha, Peter Teal was 50 00:03:15,840 --> 00:03:19,199 part of this. Peter Teal is gay, Okay, he was 51 00:03:19,240 --> 00:03:24,240 not participating in the sex trafficking of the underage girls, okay. 52 00:03:24,680 --> 00:03:28,719 But the conflation of a guy like Teal with you know, 53 00:03:29,000 --> 00:03:33,439 Prince Andrew or Bill Clinton. I'm just kidding. Nobody conflates 54 00:03:33,439 --> 00:03:35,479 Bill Clinton. Everybody gives him a pass on all of 55 00:03:35,520 --> 00:03:39,919 this stuff. Yeah, I've been very clear. I've been covering 56 00:03:39,919 --> 00:03:43,800 this story, you know, as it's been developing for what now, 57 00:03:45,400 --> 00:03:51,080 oh gosh, since twenty eleven or something, or no earlier 58 00:03:51,120 --> 00:03:54,759 than that, I guess, So, you know, but I don't know, 59 00:03:55,759 --> 00:03:59,840 nobody does. We are all speculating on this stuff and 60 00:03:59,840 --> 00:04:02,759 trying to piece together this who done it? And you know, 61 00:04:02,800 --> 00:04:07,240 Americans love themselves. The true crime podcasts and such, and 62 00:04:07,280 --> 00:04:09,199 so people are all trying to put this thing together. 63 00:04:09,280 --> 00:04:14,000 But people have motivated reasoning. And so when you know, 64 00:04:14,080 --> 00:04:16,079 for example, here you go, I'll show you. Here's the 65 00:04:16,160 --> 00:04:23,480 example from an unnamed South Carolina number. I call them 66 00:04:23,600 --> 00:04:28,240 sc lefty, all the political whataboutisms from the left and 67 00:04:28,360 --> 00:04:31,480 the right. None of you seem to mind that dozens 68 00:04:31,480 --> 00:04:34,160 of young girls were trafficked and raped and only two 69 00:04:34,199 --> 00:04:37,519 people have faced any consequences. See, there's again an assumption 70 00:04:37,600 --> 00:04:41,639 that he knows more than he does. In fact, I 71 00:04:41,720 --> 00:04:46,000 have been saying that very thing for years, for years. 72 00:04:46,519 --> 00:04:49,480 Why is it that none of the quote you know, 73 00:04:49,600 --> 00:04:54,040 customers or the Johns, the clients of Epstein, Like, how 74 00:04:54,040 --> 00:04:58,720 come nobody else has been arrested or charged only that? Like, 75 00:04:58,920 --> 00:05:02,040 so you're telling me a woman goes to prison for 76 00:05:02,160 --> 00:05:06,399 trafficking underage girls and it's only for Epstein and there 77 00:05:06,399 --> 00:05:11,439 were no other clients there. That seems not believable, you know. 78 00:05:12,279 --> 00:05:14,680 And so that's the point of pushing to get the 79 00:05:14,720 --> 00:05:19,399 files released and let the chips fall where they may. Now, 80 00:05:19,439 --> 00:05:21,319 of course that's easy for me to say because I'm 81 00:05:21,319 --> 00:05:22,920 not caught up in any of it, So it doesn't 82 00:05:22,920 --> 00:05:26,040 matter to me, it's not going to impact me, but 83 00:05:27,040 --> 00:05:30,319 for the victims it does matter, and it should be 84 00:05:30,759 --> 00:05:36,839 This stuff should be aired. What's really important is the 85 00:05:36,879 --> 00:05:41,279 timing of the Democrat email release. Right, No, that's not 86 00:05:41,519 --> 00:05:46,160 really important, But it's important to understand the political machinations 87 00:05:46,319 --> 00:05:50,360 that are behind what we are seeing and what they 88 00:05:50,399 --> 00:05:54,000 are trying to promote and what Democrats did yesterday. If 89 00:05:54,000 --> 00:05:58,160 you actually care about the victims that you're texting me 90 00:05:58,279 --> 00:06:01,639 about that, and you're accused me of not caring, If 91 00:06:01,680 --> 00:06:07,079 you actually care, then you would care about the fact 92 00:06:07,120 --> 00:06:12,120 that Democrats released these three emails in an attempt to 93 00:06:12,199 --> 00:06:17,040 smear Trump, which is obvious, right, You would care about that. 94 00:06:17,360 --> 00:06:22,000 You would care that they did more damage in doing that. Now, 95 00:06:22,160 --> 00:06:24,800 maybe they did some good because it prompted the Republicans 96 00:06:24,839 --> 00:06:28,600 to dump twenty thousand documents out of their House Oversight Committee, 97 00:06:29,079 --> 00:06:31,399 and you should celebrate that, you should be happy. But 98 00:06:31,480 --> 00:06:35,160 Democrats they're not happy about that. Why are they not 99 00:06:35,240 --> 00:06:39,040 happy about that? Why did they block the unanimous consent 100 00:06:39,959 --> 00:06:45,399 motion to release everything? Why do they block that? So 101 00:06:45,560 --> 00:06:48,680 I'm supposed to not I'm supposed to have zero questions 102 00:06:48,720 --> 00:06:53,319 about why Democrats would put out just these three emails, 103 00:06:54,360 --> 00:06:58,800 and what do you think it means. I'm supposed to 104 00:06:59,199 --> 00:07:05,680 I'm supposed to ignore that that motivation and then also 105 00:07:05,759 --> 00:07:09,360 ignore all of their efforts to continue blocking. I'm not 106 00:07:09,399 --> 00:07:14,040 going to do that. I've said, like I literally just said, 107 00:07:14,920 --> 00:07:17,759 the behavior of Donald Trump indicates that there is something 108 00:07:17,839 --> 00:07:19,800 in there and I don't know what it is. And 109 00:07:19,839 --> 00:07:24,160 for people who hate Trump, they say they believe that 110 00:07:24,759 --> 00:07:27,279 it's because he's in the files. It's because Donald Trump 111 00:07:27,360 --> 00:07:29,120 was taking trips to the island, which we know isn't 112 00:07:29,120 --> 00:07:31,120 true because we have the flight logs. But that doesn't matter. 113 00:07:31,279 --> 00:07:34,120 So like they we know that Trump is covering it up. 114 00:07:34,879 --> 00:07:38,439 Everybody's covering it up for Donald Trump. That's what they believe, 115 00:07:38,600 --> 00:07:41,879 but there isn't evidence for that yet. That may be true, 116 00:07:42,519 --> 00:07:46,000 but it might not be true. See, like I'm one 117 00:07:46,000 --> 00:07:48,079 of these people. I know, I'm probably a bit of 118 00:07:48,279 --> 00:07:53,079 a rare bird, but I'm one of these people who 119 00:07:53,120 --> 00:07:56,199 waits to see all of the evidence before trying to, 120 00:07:57,040 --> 00:08:00,720 you know, decide on a conclusion. No, it's not a 121 00:08:01,360 --> 00:08:04,319 it's not the really important issue, but it is an 122 00:08:04,360 --> 00:08:07,279 important issue. When Democrats tell me that this is the 123 00:08:07,360 --> 00:08:11,000 important issue, and this is the smoking gun, and then 124 00:08:11,040 --> 00:08:13,160 it turns out it's not. And now I wonder, well, 125 00:08:13,160 --> 00:08:17,680 why are you doing this? Like there is Let me 126 00:08:17,680 --> 00:08:19,319 see here see if I can find it. I think it. 127 00:08:19,439 --> 00:08:24,160 I still have it up. Do do do do do 128 00:08:24,160 --> 00:08:29,160 do do. It's a tweet here in the in my 129 00:08:29,360 --> 00:08:39,879 uh yeah, here it is arn. Ours are annar Celdean 130 00:08:40,000 --> 00:08:44,159 Celdane anyway, says, let me get this straight. With the 131 00:08:44,200 --> 00:08:47,759 release of Epstein's emails, we find out that Epstein hated Trump, 132 00:08:48,519 --> 00:08:52,120 did not trust Donald Trump, that they were not friends, 133 00:08:52,679 --> 00:08:55,440 that The New York Times directly worked with Jeffrey Epstein 134 00:08:55,519 --> 00:09:00,480 to suppress stories about him. After Bradley Edwards, the lawyer 135 00:09:00,519 --> 00:09:03,799 for the accusers, said that Trump was the only individual 136 00:09:03,840 --> 00:09:07,639 to cooperate and help. Epstein said Trump did not have 137 00:09:08,039 --> 00:09:12,639 one decent cell in his body right, So the lawyer 138 00:09:12,720 --> 00:09:17,840 for the accusers say Trump was the only one to cooperate, 139 00:09:19,200 --> 00:09:22,679 and this was also compelling. That the Democrats did their 140 00:09:22,759 --> 00:09:27,639 fake reaction of the victim's name, which was already known 141 00:09:27,960 --> 00:09:30,200 and she had already testified, under wrote that Trump was 142 00:09:30,240 --> 00:09:33,759 not involved. The name they blocked was Virginia Giuffrey, who 143 00:09:33,759 --> 00:09:37,919 publicly testified Trump was innocent. Oh and also Russia Gate 144 00:09:38,039 --> 00:09:41,360 was confirmed a hoax, that's what came out of these emails. 145 00:09:42,159 --> 00:09:44,639 So is it possible that Democrats haven't released all of 146 00:09:44,639 --> 00:09:48,320 these emails because of that because it actually doesn't show 147 00:09:48,799 --> 00:09:51,799 what they wanted it to show, and so now they're 148 00:09:51,799 --> 00:09:53,159 going to try to cook it up to make it 149 00:09:53,279 --> 00:09:56,600 show something that it doesn't. 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So the thing to keep in no matter 169 00:11:02,399 --> 00:11:06,039 what comes out on with the Epstein files and the 170 00:11:06,080 --> 00:11:11,080 investigations and everything else, is that Democrats have been trying 171 00:11:11,120 --> 00:11:17,279 to figure out a way to fracture the MAGA coalition. 172 00:11:18,639 --> 00:11:26,879 And when the Epstein files issue came across their radar 173 00:11:27,159 --> 00:11:35,600 as one that naturally has MAGA split, they dare I say, pounced. 174 00:11:35,919 --> 00:11:39,679 They seized on this issue. See, Democrats don't really care 175 00:11:40,039 --> 00:11:44,000 about the Epstein files. They haven't cared. And to answer 176 00:11:44,240 --> 00:11:47,679 like one potential answer for you know, why didn't the 177 00:11:47,720 --> 00:11:51,200 Democrats under Joe Biden, Why didn't they release all of 178 00:11:51,240 --> 00:11:53,639 this stuff when they had the chance. If Donald Trump 179 00:11:53,679 --> 00:11:56,519 is implicated, why wouldn't you do it? One of the 180 00:11:56,559 --> 00:12:01,879 answers could be that they don't care. They didn't care 181 00:12:01,919 --> 00:12:04,399 about the files. They didn't care about Epstein, they didn't 182 00:12:04,440 --> 00:12:07,279 care about the victims or the clients. They didn't care 183 00:12:07,279 --> 00:12:11,600 about any of it. It was only when Trump ran 184 00:12:11,720 --> 00:12:15,320 on this issue, right, he talked about it in the campaign. 185 00:12:15,360 --> 00:12:18,120 He was going to release all of the files, and 186 00:12:18,519 --> 00:12:21,759 so Democrats didn't go after him on it. They just 187 00:12:21,799 --> 00:12:26,799 ignored it. And then when you know, they started kind 188 00:12:26,799 --> 00:12:30,919 of slow walking the release of the files, Pam Bondi 189 00:12:31,240 --> 00:12:34,759 did that stupid pr stunt that completely blew up in 190 00:12:34,799 --> 00:12:38,759 her face. It angered MAGA, and it created this split, 191 00:12:40,159 --> 00:12:46,360 and Democrats saw that and they are exploiting it. That 192 00:12:46,480 --> 00:12:54,200 explains their actions yesterday, right, That explains it. Reassess your assumptions. 193 00:12:54,600 --> 00:12:57,720 You're assuming Democrats want the files released, So then why 194 00:12:57,720 --> 00:13:00,919 would they vote against a unanimous consent to release them 195 00:13:00,919 --> 00:13:06,399 all unless they don't actually want them all released. They're 196 00:13:06,399 --> 00:13:09,440 just saying that. They're just saying that in order to 197 00:13:09,559 --> 00:13:14,120 split MEGA, to further drive the wedge and shatter this 198 00:13:14,279 --> 00:13:20,240 coalition that they fear can exist post Trump or may 199 00:13:20,440 --> 00:13:25,679 come out and vote to protect him in the midterms, 200 00:13:26,399 --> 00:13:28,759 because that's what's at stake here in the mid term 201 00:13:28,840 --> 00:13:33,480 twenty twenty six midterm elections. If Democrats have a blue wave, 202 00:13:33,559 --> 00:13:36,159 and the historical trend is that the party in power 203 00:13:36,159 --> 00:13:39,320 in the White House loses in the midterms, and if 204 00:13:39,360 --> 00:13:43,120 they take control of the House. And you know me, 205 00:13:43,200 --> 00:13:45,240 I don't make predictions, but I'm going to make a 206 00:13:45,240 --> 00:13:47,799 prediction on this one. They're going to impeach Donald Trump. 207 00:13:47,799 --> 00:13:50,480 They're going to try to get him out. Now. They're 208 00:13:50,559 --> 00:13:52,759 probably not going to win the Senate just because of 209 00:13:52,799 --> 00:13:56,080 the seats that are open and up for election. The 210 00:13:56,120 --> 00:13:58,840 math doesn't really work for them to retake the Senate. 211 00:14:00,000 --> 00:14:04,080 Probably can't get a conviction in the Senate, but they're 212 00:14:04,080 --> 00:14:06,600 going to They're going to replay the first term and 213 00:14:06,639 --> 00:14:10,320 they'll impeach him as many times as they have to, 214 00:14:11,919 --> 00:14:15,480 even though he won't be removed from office. That's what's 215 00:14:15,480 --> 00:14:20,799 at stake. And so if they can demoralize the mag 216 00:14:20,879 --> 00:14:24,799 of voters using the Epstein issue as a wedge, they're 217 00:14:24,840 --> 00:14:27,240 going to do it. And that's why you would release 218 00:14:27,399 --> 00:14:32,120 this ridiculous email exchange and then be mad at the 219 00:14:32,159 --> 00:14:35,240 disclosure of twenty thousand documents that you claim to want 220 00:14:35,679 --> 00:14:39,879 and then block a unanimous consent for all of the 221 00:14:39,919 --> 00:14:42,360 files to be released. You wouldn't do that if you 222 00:14:42,360 --> 00:14:45,639 want the files to be released. One of the emails 223 00:14:46,200 --> 00:14:49,240 exchanges that was released in the dump from the Republicans 224 00:14:49,320 --> 00:14:56,159 yesterday ex Treasury Secretary Larry Summers, who served under former 225 00:14:56,200 --> 00:15:02,240 President Bill Clinton. He had an exchange with Jeffrey Epstein, 226 00:15:03,600 --> 00:15:08,320 and Epstein criticized Donald Trump's handling of a twenty eighteen 227 00:15:08,399 --> 00:15:12,960 meeting with Vladimir Putin in Helsinki. Remember this, Democrats wanted 228 00:15:12,960 --> 00:15:18,200 to impeach him over this, and Summers wrote to Epstein, 229 00:15:18,279 --> 00:15:21,679 do the Russians have stuff on Trump? Today? Was appalling 230 00:15:21,759 --> 00:15:26,559 even by his standards, and Epstein responded, my email is 231 00:15:26,639 --> 00:15:31,039 full with similar comments. Wow, and then said that Trump's 232 00:15:31,080 --> 00:15:34,799 handling of the summit was quote predictable quote. I'm sure 233 00:15:34,840 --> 00:15:37,519 his view is that it went super well. He thinks 234 00:15:37,519 --> 00:15:41,240 he has charmed his adversary. Admittedly he has no idea 235 00:15:41,360 --> 00:15:44,840 of the symbolism. He has no idea of most things. 236 00:15:46,879 --> 00:15:53,200 I was Jeffrey Epstein talking to Larry Summers. So again, 237 00:15:53,480 --> 00:15:57,600 is it possible that Democrats don't want more of these 238 00:15:57,639 --> 00:16:01,000 documents out? 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And 265 00:17:31,279 --> 00:17:34,359 Republicans are covering for pedophiles and protecting Trump by not 266 00:17:34,400 --> 00:17:37,200 releasing the Epstein files? And how dare they release twenty 267 00:17:37,200 --> 00:17:44,880 thousand Epstein files. Yeah, it's just it's I think it's 268 00:17:44,920 --> 00:17:48,559 a well, just kind of thinking through. Maybe it's a 269 00:17:48,599 --> 00:17:53,440 product of the intellectual flabbiness, because a lot of this 270 00:17:53,640 --> 00:18:00,200 gaslighting only works when you have a complicit media to 271 00:18:00,279 --> 00:18:05,680 help reinforce the narratives, you know, and with social media 272 00:18:05,759 --> 00:18:08,200 now everybody's got their own printing press, and people have 273 00:18:08,279 --> 00:18:11,279 their own echo chambers and such. This stuff, though, breaks 274 00:18:11,319 --> 00:18:18,359 containment very quickly, and by the Republicans releasing twenty thousand documents, 275 00:18:18,960 --> 00:18:22,599 it now gives everybody access to see this stuff, and 276 00:18:22,799 --> 00:18:26,599 which is what should have occurred before earlier than now, 277 00:18:26,799 --> 00:18:29,759 but it has now occurred, and now people are going 278 00:18:29,799 --> 00:18:33,000 through this stuff. And here's another one, for example, this 279 00:18:33,119 --> 00:18:42,720 from New York Times best selling author John Lefevre The 280 00:18:42,759 --> 00:18:47,400 New York Times essentially worked for Jeffrey Epstein. They tipped 281 00:18:47,480 --> 00:18:55,039 him off on investigations, specifically Landon Thomas Junior, who covered 282 00:18:55,079 --> 00:18:59,400 international finance, emerging markets, and the asset management industry for 283 00:18:59,480 --> 00:19:02,920 the time. He was a reporter there from two thousand 284 00:19:02,960 --> 00:19:09,519 and two through twenty nineteen. And he sent an email 285 00:19:10,880 --> 00:19:16,839 in September twenty seventeen to Jeffrey Epstein saying that he 286 00:19:17,319 --> 00:19:22,720 got another call from Connolly. I'm not sure who Connolly is. 287 00:19:22,799 --> 00:19:29,200 That's the subject of the email, and he tips off 288 00:19:29,680 --> 00:19:35,880 Epstein with high importance on the email, saying Connolly is 289 00:19:35,920 --> 00:19:39,640 digging around again, not clear if it's another book or 290 00:19:39,720 --> 00:19:43,880 expanded paperback version. Was asking me all sorts of questions 291 00:19:43,920 --> 00:19:49,200 about why you hired Kenneth Starr. Remember ken Starr was 292 00:19:49,240 --> 00:19:55,039 the special prosecutor that the Clintons brought on or was 293 00:19:55,759 --> 00:20:04,240 appointed rather to investigate whitewater Clinton's right and so why 294 00:20:04,279 --> 00:20:07,480 did Epstein hire ken Starr? So apparently this guy Connolly 295 00:20:07,559 --> 00:20:12,880 maybe a writer, reporter or something. And so Thomas Landon, 296 00:20:13,200 --> 00:20:15,839 the reporter for The New York Times, is tipping off 297 00:20:15,880 --> 00:20:20,440 Epstein saying, Hey, this guy's digging around again, asking some 298 00:20:20,559 --> 00:20:23,559 questions about why you hired Ken Starr. I told him 299 00:20:23,599 --> 00:20:25,960 I had no idea. I think he is doing some 300 00:20:26,160 --> 00:20:33,160 Trump related digging too. Anyway, for what it's worth, then 301 00:20:34,200 --> 00:20:40,519 Politico piece by Kyle Cheney and Erica Ordin I made 302 00:20:40,519 --> 00:20:44,240 a reference to one of these lines here in a 303 00:20:44,279 --> 00:20:46,839 site you'll hear in a second. A week before Donald 304 00:20:46,880 --> 00:20:50,640 Trump prevailed in the twenty sixteen election his first term, 305 00:20:51,240 --> 00:20:56,079 an email landed in Jeffrey Epstein's inbox encouraging him to 306 00:20:56,400 --> 00:20:59,720 change the fate of the world. A week before the 307 00:20:59,759 --> 00:21:08,319 el Michael Wolfe, the quote journalist, said there's an opportunity 308 00:21:08,359 --> 00:21:11,119 to come forward this week and talk about Trump in 309 00:21:11,200 --> 00:21:14,519 such a way that could garner you great sympathy and 310 00:21:14,720 --> 00:21:21,440 help finish him interested. Now, it's unclear what Wolfe specifically 311 00:21:21,480 --> 00:21:25,079 expected Epstein to say to try to damage Trump's candidacy, 312 00:21:25,920 --> 00:21:29,680 Though Trump's adversaries have long highlighted the relationship between Trump 313 00:21:29,720 --> 00:21:34,200 and Epstein amid revelations about Epstein's purportedly prolific sex trafficking 314 00:21:34,240 --> 00:21:38,400 of minors, Trump has long denied any wrongdoing or knowledge 315 00:21:38,400 --> 00:21:43,400 of Epstein's misdeeds. The emails also show Michael Wolfe despite 316 00:21:43,440 --> 00:21:47,119 his work as a journalist, taking on a role as 317 00:21:47,160 --> 00:21:52,839 an unofficial Epstein image consultant of sorts, offering him messaging 318 00:21:52,920 --> 00:21:58,119 and PR strategies as Epstein's legal and criminal exposure began 319 00:21:58,240 --> 00:22:02,640 to mount. Remember the timeframe. This is in the run 320 00:22:02,720 --> 00:22:08,480 up to Trump's first election victory. This is when Epstein 321 00:22:08,559 --> 00:22:11,839 was then being investigated again and all like the Sweetheart 322 00:22:11,920 --> 00:22:16,039 deal and all of that stuff. That's what Epstein's dealing with. 323 00:22:16,240 --> 00:22:20,160 This is a decade after Trump kicked him out of 324 00:22:20,200 --> 00:22:23,160 Mara a Lago, cut off all ties. They had their 325 00:22:23,200 --> 00:22:26,880 falling out, and my memory is that that was based 326 00:22:26,880 --> 00:22:33,559 off of some bidding war on property. It may have 327 00:22:33,559 --> 00:22:37,599 been on Mara a Lago, I don't remember, but Epstein 328 00:22:37,640 --> 00:22:40,039 and Trump were both trying to get some property and 329 00:22:40,160 --> 00:22:45,039 Trump Trump won, and Trump got mad that Epstein was 330 00:22:45,039 --> 00:22:49,119 trying to get this same property or something. The emails 331 00:22:49,160 --> 00:22:51,599 also showed that wolf despite his work as a journal 332 00:22:51,720 --> 00:22:54,680 I read that part. Sorry, It's unclear if the late 333 00:22:54,799 --> 00:22:58,680 convicted sex offender ever replied to Wolfe's October twenty ninth, 334 00:22:58,920 --> 00:23:02,400 twenty sixteen email, but he stayed silent in the final 335 00:23:02,519 --> 00:23:05,640 days of Trump's campaign and watched as his longtime acquaintance 336 00:23:05,640 --> 00:23:07,759 with whom he'd out of falling out a decade earlier, 337 00:23:08,079 --> 00:23:13,279 prevailed over Democrat Hillary Clinton. This exchange with Wolfe was 338 00:23:13,319 --> 00:23:17,200 one of several in which Wolfe pushed Epstein to help 339 00:23:17,359 --> 00:23:22,119 tear down Trump. It was among hundreds released Wednesday by 340 00:23:22,119 --> 00:23:27,319 the Republican led House Oversight Committee. Wolfe wrote to Epstein 341 00:23:28,119 --> 00:23:32,039 short in December of twenty fifteen, so a year before 342 00:23:32,079 --> 00:23:35,920 the election, said quote, I think you should let him 343 00:23:36,000 --> 00:23:41,359 hang himself. Well, there's a bit of foreshadowing anyway. No, 344 00:23:41,480 --> 00:23:46,640 that was about Trump. Let Trump be his own worst enemy. 345 00:23:47,319 --> 00:23:50,119 The White House downplay. I read that part about Chris 346 00:23:50,319 --> 00:23:53,680 Carolyn Levitt. The House Democrats are predicting dozens of their 347 00:23:53,720 --> 00:23:56,440 Republican counterparts will join an effort to force a vote 348 00:23:56,759 --> 00:23:59,319 for the release of even more Epstein documents against the 349 00:23:59,359 --> 00:24:03,400 wishes of GOP congressional leadership and the White House. Senior 350 00:24:03,400 --> 00:24:06,799 Republicans privately believe that maybe one hundred or more Republicans 351 00:24:06,839 --> 00:24:10,160 will vote for it. That vote is expected next week. 352 00:24:10,240 --> 00:24:16,759 By the way, the broader tranche of emails revealed Epstein's 353 00:24:16,839 --> 00:24:19,799 vast web of connections to power centers around the world. 354 00:24:20,160 --> 00:24:24,519 He bantered with former Treasury Secretary Larry Summers and invited 355 00:24:24,519 --> 00:24:27,559 billionaire Peter Teal to visit him in the Caribbean. He 356 00:24:27,599 --> 00:24:31,119 connected far flung associates such as Wolf with Trump, ally 357 00:24:31,240 --> 00:24:34,559 Tom Barrick, and attorney Ken Starr, And he gabbed about 358 00:24:34,599 --> 00:24:39,720 current events with soon Ye Previn Woody, Allen's wife. Summers 359 00:24:39,799 --> 00:24:43,400 and Barrick did not respond to requests for comment, but 360 00:24:43,440 --> 00:24:47,440 a person close to Peter Teal said Teal did not 361 00:24:47,640 --> 00:24:53,759 visit Epstein's island in the Caribbean. So here's a good example. 362 00:24:53,839 --> 00:24:58,079 Epstein makes the invitation, Teal doesn't take him up on it, 363 00:24:58,599 --> 00:25:01,920 But now his name is associate with Jeffrey Epstein, and 364 00:25:01,960 --> 00:25:04,119 that's not fair or Teal if that's the only interaction 365 00:25:04,160 --> 00:25:06,920 that ever occurred. All right, if you're listening to this show, 366 00:25:06,960 --> 00:25:08,519 you know I try to keep up with all sorts 367 00:25:08,519 --> 00:25:10,559 of current events, and I know you do too. And 368 00:25:10,640 --> 00:25:15,440 you've probably heard me say get your news from multiple sources. Why. 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Yeah, 389 00:26:25,839 --> 00:26:28,920 we're still in fact finding mode here. Anybody that tells 390 00:26:28,960 --> 00:26:31,359 you they know what this story is is lying to you. 391 00:26:31,440 --> 00:26:35,519 They don't. People have theories. People are guessing. That's what 392 00:26:35,680 --> 00:26:40,160 theories are. They're guessing. I can entertain all sorts of theories. 393 00:26:40,279 --> 00:26:45,079 But I don't make accusations if I don't have evidence. 394 00:26:47,279 --> 00:26:51,359 Scott says Trump banned Epstein from marra A Lago in 395 00:26:51,759 --> 00:26:55,160 two thousand and seven. That has been independently verified. If 396 00:26:55,200 --> 00:26:59,160 Epstein had anything on Trump, that would not have happened. 397 00:26:59,720 --> 00:27:03,240 That's a good point. Yeah, I mean, if Epstein wanted 398 00:27:03,960 --> 00:27:07,880 access into ma A Lago in order to keep you know, 399 00:27:08,000 --> 00:27:12,039 recruiting away his staff, which is what Trump said he 400 00:27:12,119 --> 00:27:14,359 was doing and why he got mad at him one 401 00:27:14,359 --> 00:27:19,000 of the reasons. But if Epstein is using that as 402 00:27:19,079 --> 00:27:23,519 hunting grounds and recruitment grounds, and Epstein wanted back in, 403 00:27:23,960 --> 00:27:27,599 he would have just blackmailed Trump, right, But he didn't 404 00:27:28,480 --> 00:27:32,920 because he never got back in. It's a great point. 405 00:27:34,440 --> 00:27:42,759 Let's see here, just going up. Janice says, I used 406 00:27:42,759 --> 00:27:45,160 to live in Saint Thomas for two years. I worked 407 00:27:45,200 --> 00:27:47,440 as a crew on charter boats. In between charters, we 408 00:27:47,480 --> 00:27:51,160 anchored in Christmas Cove, which is on Epstein's island. Oh, 409 00:27:52,559 --> 00:27:56,359 we weren't allowed on the island, but we definitely witnessed 410 00:27:56,400 --> 00:27:58,440 a lot of boats and helicopters going back and forth 411 00:27:58,480 --> 00:28:00,799 to the island, and we all called it p File Island. 412 00:28:00,799 --> 00:28:06,039 Long before the media. It was all very interesting. Scott says. 413 00:28:06,039 --> 00:28:08,519 If they released the files and names in the files 414 00:28:08,519 --> 00:28:11,279 were not actually involved with Epstein, could legal action for 415 00:28:11,440 --> 00:28:19,920 defamation be filed. Doubtful unless you use the presence of 416 00:28:19,960 --> 00:28:22,920 their name in a file to defame them somehow, you know, 417 00:28:25,079 --> 00:28:27,400 and by files like what are we talking about email 418 00:28:27,440 --> 00:28:30,599 exchanges and that sort of stuff. You know. But if 419 00:28:30,599 --> 00:28:33,799 somebody were to use like Peter Teal is in the files, 420 00:28:33,839 --> 00:28:37,359 like Epstein sent him an email saying, hey, come to 421 00:28:37,400 --> 00:28:40,240 the island and Teal never did so. Now if you 422 00:28:40,279 --> 00:28:42,480 say that that means he's a pedophile and all of this, 423 00:28:42,599 --> 00:28:46,119 then yeah, that would be opening yourself up to a lawsuit. 424 00:28:46,119 --> 00:28:49,440 And you saw what Peter Til did to Gawker magazine 425 00:28:49,519 --> 00:28:53,559 or Gawker dot com just completely destroy them, So you know, 426 00:28:53,720 --> 00:28:59,279 just heads up when you mess with Peter Til. Then 427 00:28:59,359 --> 00:29:02,240 there is is Trump helped on a case of the 428 00:29:02,319 --> 00:29:06,319 survivors by giving information to their attorney. I think his 429 00:29:06,400 --> 00:29:08,559 name was Ferguson. Yeah, I've seen a video of the 430 00:29:08,599 --> 00:29:11,839 attorney stating that Trump was the only one who reached 431 00:29:11,880 --> 00:29:18,839 out to their attorney. Eddie says Epstein was Jewish. I 432 00:29:18,880 --> 00:29:25,240 wonder how many Zionists are on the list. That's the Jews. There, 433 00:29:25,279 --> 00:29:28,440 you go, see this is why Democrats want this issue, 434 00:29:30,000 --> 00:29:33,799 because they are you they see that the gro as 435 00:29:33,799 --> 00:29:36,839 I went over in great detail yesterday on the show. Right, 436 00:29:36,880 --> 00:29:43,279 this anti Semitism that is among the left far more pervasive, 437 00:29:43,279 --> 00:29:45,920 I would say, but also among the gropers on the 438 00:29:46,000 --> 00:29:47,960 right and the you know, the post World War two 439 00:29:49,759 --> 00:29:51,720 you know liberal project is a bus. We got to 440 00:29:51,720 --> 00:29:55,240 scrap the constitution. We need a monarchist, Christian monarchist form 441 00:29:55,240 --> 00:29:59,160 of government, like all of these post liberals. Anti Semitism 442 00:29:59,400 --> 00:30:04,440 is over there well. And so they're trying to sew 443 00:30:04,480 --> 00:30:08,160 division inside of the coalition that put Trump in office. 444 00:30:08,319 --> 00:30:13,359 And that's a pretty good example of it there. The 445 00:30:13,359 --> 00:30:15,960 Epstein stuff is all about Democrats trying to cause division 446 00:30:15,960 --> 00:30:17,920 there you go within the GOP and to hurt Trump 447 00:30:17,960 --> 00:30:21,039 because of their tds. It doesn't matter what's in those files, 448 00:30:21,160 --> 00:30:23,240 they'll twist it in some way to try to damage 449 00:30:23,279 --> 00:30:31,200 Trump and his presidency. Seven oh four number. It was 450 00:30:31,279 --> 00:30:36,000 never the Russia tapes. We had the wrong country. Israel 451 00:30:36,079 --> 00:30:39,240 tapes exist of Trump, and I voted for Trump. Release 452 00:30:39,319 --> 00:30:42,839 the Epstein files. Trump ran on it. It came out yesterday. 453 00:30:42,839 --> 00:30:46,279 Peter Thiel's in the Epstein files. No surprise, it was 454 00:30:46,319 --> 00:30:49,039 never the Russia tapes. We had the wrong country. You 455 00:30:49,079 --> 00:30:50,839 just keep saying this, So this is is this like 456 00:30:50,880 --> 00:30:55,119 an automated bot coming in. We had the wrong It's 457 00:30:55,200 --> 00:30:58,519 Israel's fault. Now, look, Israel may be connected to this 458 00:30:58,640 --> 00:31:02,920 because Epstein had all sorts of connections with these world leaders. 459 00:31:03,440 --> 00:31:07,640 There could be many different governments involved. So maybe just 460 00:31:07,640 --> 00:31:12,279 think outside the jew hating box, you know, Oh, I 461 00:31:12,400 --> 00:31:20,680 kid I kid, Beth says, or no, sorry, this is 462 00:31:20,680 --> 00:31:24,279 from Mike or Lisa, uh pete, stop it with the 463 00:31:24,319 --> 00:31:30,759 common sense. It's madness. Madness. I say, here's a question. 464 00:31:31,039 --> 00:31:33,559 How come Democrats aren't outraged and tearing their shirts that 465 00:31:33,599 --> 00:31:35,400 Trump said to the press that Clinton went to the 466 00:31:35,400 --> 00:31:42,599 island thirty times. Shouldn't that be slander? Says Johnny Steve says. 467 00:31:42,599 --> 00:31:45,000 Tune in tomorrow for the next thrill packed episode of 468 00:31:45,000 --> 00:31:48,640 the ten years running saga. We've got him now. That's 469 00:31:48,680 --> 00:31:53,079 the The walls are closing in, The walls are closing in. 470 00:31:53,640 --> 00:31:56,599 It's just a very very very very very very very 471 00:31:56,720 --> 00:32:00,319 very very large room. That see. That's the thing. People 472 00:32:00,480 --> 00:32:03,039 never take into account it's just a really big room, 473 00:32:03,200 --> 00:32:05,480 all right. That'll do it for this episode. Thank you 474 00:32:05,559 --> 00:32:07,559 so much for listening. I could not do the show 475 00:32:07,559 --> 00:32:10,079 without your support and the support of the businesses that 476 00:32:10,160 --> 00:32:13,240 advertise on the podcast, so if you'd like, please support 477 00:32:13,279 --> 00:32:14,960 them too and tell them you heard it here. You 478 00:32:14,960 --> 00:32:17,599 can also become a patron at my Patreon page or 479 00:32:17,680 --> 00:32:21,319 go to thepetecleanershow dot com. 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