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is tough because I've done all this show prep and
these are timely stories that I need to get to.
But people still are, you know, texting and emailing about
the last hour's topic on the release of a lot
of these Epstein files and documents and such. And you know,
part of the reason why I take a slow approach
to this is because it is so hyperpartisan and politicized,
and I want to go through and read this stuff
and double check. But because there's there's so much political
motivation behind all of this story, and there has been
from the very beginning, for example, where the left sees
the emails released by the Democrats as somehow proof that
Donald Trump knew what was going on, and this you know,
the dog that didn't bark comment. They keep citing, you know,
there's another interpretation for that, which I'm not sure they've
considered because of their you know, Trump derangement syndrome. But
is it possible that that Donald Trump actually was working
with authorities against Epstein. That's the dog that didn't bark people? Right?
Like if he and if Epstein thinks that Trump knows
too much about, you know, what's going on or something,
then he's worried, particularly because by the time the investigation launched,
Trump had already kicked him out of the club and
refused to associate with him. This is all reported on,
This is all known regardless of And that's the thing.
We don't know what Trump knew about the operations that
Epstein was running. There hasn't been evidence of that. But
then again, like Trump right now is not really behaving
like somebody that is completely innocent. Why are you pulling
Lauren Bobert into the situation room to talk about her
vote on the Epstein files being released? Like to me,
and again, I don't have any more information than anybody
else just reading the reports, but to me, it's quite
possible that Trump realizes there are a lot of people
whose names are going to be part of the release
of the files that did not do anything wrong, but
they're going to be labeled as being friends with Jeffrey Epstein.
And if you want any you know example of this,
look at the conflation of like Peter Teal, Peter Teal
who had some message, had some emails or something that
people have found and they're like, aha, Peter Teal was
part of this. Peter Teal is gay, Okay, he was
not participating in the sex trafficking of the underage girls, okay.
But the conflation of a guy like Teal with you know,
Prince Andrew or Bill Clinton. I'm just kidding. Nobody conflates
Bill Clinton. Everybody gives him a pass on all of
this stuff. Yeah, I've been very clear. I've been covering
this story, you know, as it's been developing for what now,
oh gosh, since twenty eleven or something, or no earlier
than that, I guess, So, you know, but I don't know,
nobody does. We are all speculating on this stuff and
trying to piece together this who done it? And you know,
Americans love themselves. The true crime podcasts and such, and
so people are all trying to put this thing together.
But people have motivated reasoning. And so when you know,
for example, here you go, I'll show you. Here's the
example from an unnamed South Carolina number. I call them
sc lefty, all the political whataboutisms from the left and
the right. None of you seem to mind that dozens
of young girls were trafficked and raped and only two
people have faced any consequences. See, there's again an assumption
that he knows more than he does. In fact, I
have been saying that very thing for years, for years.
Why is it that none of the quote you know,
customers or the Johns, the clients of Epstein, Like, how
come nobody else has been arrested or charged only that? Like,
so you're telling me a woman goes to prison for
trafficking underage girls and it's only for Epstein and there
were no other clients there. That seems not believable, you know.
And so that's the point of pushing to get the
files released and let the chips fall where they may. Now,
of course that's easy for me to say because I'm
not caught up in any of it, So it doesn't
matter to me, it's not going to impact me, but
for the victims it does matter, and it should be
This stuff should be aired. What's really important is the
timing of the Democrat email release. Right, No, that's not
really important, But it's important to understand the political machinations
that are behind what we are seeing and what they
are trying to promote and what Democrats did yesterday. If
you actually care about the victims that you're texting me
about that, and you're accused me of not caring, If
you actually care, then you would care about the fact
that Democrats released these three emails in an attempt to
smear Trump, which is obvious, right, You would care about that.
You would care that they did more damage in doing that. Now,
maybe they did some good because it prompted the Republicans
to dump twenty thousand documents out of their House Oversight Committee,
and you should celebrate that, you should be happy. But
Democrats they're not happy about that. Why are they not
happy about that? Why did they block the unanimous consent
motion to release everything? Why do they block that? So
I'm supposed to not I'm supposed to have zero questions
about why Democrats would put out just these three emails,
and what do you think it means. I'm supposed to
I'm supposed to ignore that that motivation and then also
ignore all of their efforts to continue blocking. I'm not
going to do that. I've said, like I literally just said,
the behavior of Donald Trump indicates that there is something
in there and I don't know what it is. And
for people who hate Trump, they say they believe that
it's because he's in the files. It's because Donald Trump
was taking trips to the island, which we know isn't
true because we have the flight logs. But that doesn't matter.
So like they we know that Trump is covering it up.
Everybody's covering it up for Donald Trump. That's what they believe,
but there isn't evidence for that yet. That may be true,
but it might not be true. See, like I'm one
of these people. I know, I'm probably a bit of
a rare bird, but I'm one of these people who
waits to see all of the evidence before trying to,
you know, decide on a conclusion. No, it's not a
it's not the really important issue, but it is an
important issue. When Democrats tell me that this is the
important issue, and this is the smoking gun, and then
it turns out it's not. And now I wonder, well,
why are you doing this? Like there is Let me
see here see if I can find it. I think it.
I still have it up. Do do do do do
do do. It's a tweet here in the in my
uh yeah, here it is arn. Ours are annar Celdean
Celdane anyway, says, let me get this straight. With the
release of Epstein's emails, we find out that Epstein hated Trump,
did not trust Donald Trump, that they were not friends,
that The New York Times directly worked with Jeffrey Epstein
to suppress stories about him. After Bradley Edwards, the lawyer
for the accusers, said that Trump was the only individual
to cooperate and help. Epstein said Trump did not have
one decent cell in his body right, So the lawyer
for the accusers say Trump was the only one to cooperate,
and this was also compelling. That the Democrats did their
fake reaction of the victim's name, which was already known
and she had already testified, under wrote that Trump was
not involved. The name they blocked was Virginia Giuffrey, who
publicly testified Trump was innocent. Oh and also Russia Gate
was confirmed a hoax, that's what came out of these emails.
So is it possible that Democrats haven't released all of
these emails because of that because it actually doesn't show
what they wanted it to show, and so now they're
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what comes out on with the Epstein files and the
investigations and everything else, is that Democrats have been trying
to figure out a way to fracture the MAGA coalition.
And when the Epstein files issue came across their radar
as one that naturally has MAGA split, they dare I say, pounced.
They seized on this issue. See, Democrats don't really care
about the Epstein files. They haven't cared. And to answer
like one potential answer for you know, why didn't the
Democrats under Joe Biden, Why didn't they release all of
this stuff when they had the chance. If Donald Trump
is implicated, why wouldn't you do it? One of the
answers could be that they don't care. They didn't care
about the files. They didn't care about Epstein, they didn't
care about the victims or the clients. They didn't care
about any of it. It was only when Trump ran
on this issue, right, he talked about it in the campaign.
He was going to release all of the files, and
so Democrats didn't go after him on it. They just
ignored it. And then when you know, they started kind
of slow walking the release of the files, Pam Bondi
did that stupid pr stunt that completely blew up in
her face. It angered MAGA, and it created this split,
and Democrats saw that and they are exploiting it. That
explains their actions yesterday, right, That explains it. Reassess your assumptions.
You're assuming Democrats want the files released, So then why
would they vote against a unanimous consent to release them
all unless they don't actually want them all released. They're
just saying that. They're just saying that in order to
split MEGA, to further drive the wedge and shatter this
coalition that they fear can exist post Trump or may
come out and vote to protect him in the midterms,
because that's what's at stake here in the mid term
twenty twenty six midterm elections. If Democrats have a blue wave,
and the historical trend is that the party in power
in the White House loses in the midterms, and if
they take control of the House. And you know me,
I don't make predictions, but I'm going to make a
prediction on this one. They're going to impeach Donald Trump.
They're going to try to get him out. Now. They're
probably not going to win the Senate just because of
the seats that are open and up for election. The
math doesn't really work for them to retake the Senate.
Probably can't get a conviction in the Senate, but they're
going to They're going to replay the first term and
they'll impeach him as many times as they have to,
even though he won't be removed from office. That's what's
at stake. And so if they can demoralize the mag
of voters using the Epstein issue as a wedge, they're
going to do it. And that's why you would release
this ridiculous email exchange and then be mad at the
disclosure of twenty thousand documents that you claim to want
and then block a unanimous consent for all of the
files to be released. You wouldn't do that if you
want the files to be released. One of the emails
exchanges that was released in the dump from the Republicans
yesterday ex Treasury Secretary Larry Summers, who served under former
President Bill Clinton. He had an exchange with Jeffrey Epstein,
and Epstein criticized Donald Trump's handling of a twenty eighteen
meeting with Vladimir Putin in Helsinki. Remember this, Democrats wanted
to impeach him over this, and Summers wrote to Epstein,
do the Russians have stuff on Trump? Today? Was appalling
even by his standards, and Epstein responded, my email is
full with similar comments. Wow, and then said that Trump's
handling of the summit was quote predictable quote. I'm sure
his view is that it went super well. He thinks
he has charmed his adversary. Admittedly he has no idea
of the symbolism. He has no idea of most things.
I was Jeffrey Epstein talking to Larry Summers. So again,
is it possible that Democrats don't want more of these
documents out? They're just trying to use it as a
wedge and hoping that Trump won't release all of the stuff.
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On Twitter message from Russ, what is up with this
latest Democrat pattern? Republicans are trying to kill people with
the shutdown, but how dare they end the shutdown? And
Republicans are covering for pedophiles and protecting Trump by not
releasing the Epstein files? And how dare they release twenty
thousand Epstein files. Yeah, it's just it's I think it's
a well, just kind of thinking through. Maybe it's a
product of the intellectual flabbiness, because a lot of this
gaslighting only works when you have a complicit media to
help reinforce the narratives, you know, and with social media
now everybody's got their own printing press, and people have
their own echo chambers and such. This stuff, though, breaks
containment very quickly, and by the Republicans releasing twenty thousand documents,
it now gives everybody access to see this stuff, and
which is what should have occurred before earlier than now,
but it has now occurred, and now people are going
through this stuff. And here's another one, for example, this
from New York Times best selling author John Lefevre The
New York Times essentially worked for Jeffrey Epstein. They tipped
him off on investigations, specifically Landon Thomas Junior, who covered
international finance, emerging markets, and the asset management industry for
the time. He was a reporter there from two thousand
and two through twenty nineteen. And he sent an email
in September twenty seventeen to Jeffrey Epstein saying that he
got another call from Connolly. I'm not sure who Connolly is.
That's the subject of the email, and he tips off
Epstein with high importance on the email, saying Connolly is
digging around again, not clear if it's another book or
expanded paperback version. Was asking me all sorts of questions
about why you hired Kenneth Starr. Remember ken Starr was
the special prosecutor that the Clintons brought on or was
appointed rather to investigate whitewater Clinton's right and so why
did Epstein hire ken Starr? So apparently this guy Connolly
maybe a writer, reporter or something. And so Thomas Landon,
the reporter for The New York Times, is tipping off
Epstein saying, Hey, this guy's digging around again, asking some
questions about why you hired Ken Starr. I told him
I had no idea. I think he is doing some
Trump related digging too. Anyway, for what it's worth, then
Politico piece by Kyle Cheney and Erica Ordin I made
a reference to one of these lines here in a
site you'll hear in a second. A week before Donald
Trump prevailed in the twenty sixteen election his first term,
an email landed in Jeffrey Epstein's inbox encouraging him to
change the fate of the world. A week before the
el Michael Wolfe, the quote journalist, said there's an opportunity
to come forward this week and talk about Trump in
such a way that could garner you great sympathy and
help finish him interested. Now, it's unclear what Wolfe specifically
expected Epstein to say to try to damage Trump's candidacy,
Though Trump's adversaries have long highlighted the relationship between Trump
and Epstein amid revelations about Epstein's purportedly prolific sex trafficking
of minors, Trump has long denied any wrongdoing or knowledge
of Epstein's misdeeds. The emails also show Michael Wolfe despite
his work as a journalist, taking on a role as
an unofficial Epstein image consultant of sorts, offering him messaging
and PR strategies as Epstein's legal and criminal exposure began
to mount. Remember the timeframe. This is in the run
up to Trump's first election victory. This is when Epstein
was then being investigated again and all like the Sweetheart
deal and all of that stuff. That's what Epstein's dealing with.
This is a decade after Trump kicked him out of
Mara a Lago, cut off all ties. They had their
falling out, and my memory is that that was based
off of some bidding war on property. It may have
been on Mara a Lago, I don't remember, but Epstein
and Trump were both trying to get some property and
Trump Trump won, and Trump got mad that Epstein was
trying to get this same property or something. The emails
also showed that wolf despite his work as a journal
I read that part. Sorry, It's unclear if the late
convicted sex offender ever replied to Wolfe's October twenty ninth,
twenty sixteen email, but he stayed silent in the final
days of Trump's campaign and watched as his longtime acquaintance
with whom he'd out of falling out a decade earlier,
prevailed over Democrat Hillary Clinton. This exchange with Wolfe was
one of several in which Wolfe pushed Epstein to help
tear down Trump. It was among hundreds released Wednesday by
the Republican led House Oversight Committee. Wolfe wrote to Epstein
short in December of twenty fifteen, so a year before
the election, said quote, I think you should let him
hang himself. Well, there's a bit of foreshadowing anyway. No,
that was about Trump. Let Trump be his own worst enemy.
The White House downplay. I read that part about Chris
Carolyn Levitt. The House Democrats are predicting dozens of their
Republican counterparts will join an effort to force a vote
for the release of even more Epstein documents against the
wishes of GOP congressional leadership and the White House. Senior
Republicans privately believe that maybe one hundred or more Republicans
will vote for it. That vote is expected next week.
By the way, the broader tranche of emails revealed Epstein's
vast web of connections to power centers around the world.
He bantered with former Treasury Secretary Larry Summers and invited
billionaire Peter Teal to visit him in the Caribbean. He
connected far flung associates such as Wolf with Trump, ally
Tom Barrick, and attorney Ken Starr, And he gabbed about
current events with soon Ye Previn Woody, Allen's wife. Summers
and Barrick did not respond to requests for comment, but
a person close to Peter Teal said Teal did not
visit Epstein's island in the Caribbean. So here's a good example.
Epstein makes the invitation, Teal doesn't take him up on it,
But now his name is associate with Jeffrey Epstein, and
that's not fair or Teal if that's the only interaction
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Tom says Trump never went to Epstein's Island. This caller,
I guess I would have been Jackie in the first
hour is what is wrong with society. They don't understand evidence. Yeah,
we're still in fact finding mode here. Anybody that tells
you they know what this story is is lying to you.
They don't. People have theories. People are guessing. That's what
theories are. They're guessing. I can entertain all sorts of theories.
But I don't make accusations if I don't have evidence.
Scott says Trump banned Epstein from marra A Lago in
two thousand and seven. That has been independently verified. If
Epstein had anything on Trump, that would not have happened.
That's a good point. Yeah, I mean, if Epstein wanted
access into ma A Lago in order to keep you know,
recruiting away his staff, which is what Trump said he
was doing and why he got mad at him one
of the reasons. But if Epstein is using that as
hunting grounds and recruitment grounds, and Epstein wanted back in,
he would have just blackmailed Trump, right, But he didn't
because he never got back in. It's a great point.
Let's see here, just going up. Janice says, I used
to live in Saint Thomas for two years. I worked
as a crew on charter boats. In between charters, we
anchored in Christmas Cove, which is on Epstein's island. Oh,
we weren't allowed on the island, but we definitely witnessed
a lot of boats and helicopters going back and forth
to the island, and we all called it p File Island.
Long before the media. It was all very interesting. Scott says.
If they released the files and names in the files
were not actually involved with Epstein, could legal action for
defamation be filed. Doubtful unless you use the presence of
their name in a file to defame them somehow, you know,
and by files like what are we talking about email
exchanges and that sort of stuff. You know. But if
somebody were to use like Peter Teal is in the files,
like Epstein sent him an email saying, hey, come to
the island and Teal never did so. Now if you
say that that means he's a pedophile and all of this,
then yeah, that would be opening yourself up to a lawsuit.
And you saw what Peter Til did to Gawker magazine
or Gawker dot com just completely destroy them, So you know,
just heads up when you mess with Peter Til. Then
there is is Trump helped on a case of the
survivors by giving information to their attorney. I think his
name was Ferguson. Yeah, I've seen a video of the
attorney stating that Trump was the only one who reached
out to their attorney. Eddie says Epstein was Jewish. I
wonder how many Zionists are on the list. That's the Jews. There,
you go, see this is why Democrats want this issue,
because they are you they see that the gro as
I went over in great detail yesterday on the show. Right,
this anti Semitism that is among the left far more pervasive,
I would say, but also among the gropers on the
right and the you know, the post World War two
you know liberal project is a bus. We got to
scrap the constitution. We need a monarchist, Christian monarchist form
of government, like all of these post liberals. Anti Semitism
is over there well. And so they're trying to sew
division inside of the coalition that put Trump in office.
And that's a pretty good example of it there. The
Epstein stuff is all about Democrats trying to cause division
there you go within the GOP and to hurt Trump
because of their tds. It doesn't matter what's in those files,
they'll twist it in some way to try to damage
Trump and his presidency. Seven oh four number. It was
never the Russia tapes. We had the wrong country. Israel
tapes exist of Trump, and I voted for Trump. Release
the Epstein files. Trump ran on it. It came out yesterday.
Peter Thiel's in the Epstein files. No surprise, it was
never the Russia tapes. We had the wrong country. You
just keep saying this, So this is is this like
an automated bot coming in. We had the wrong It's
Israel's fault. Now, look, Israel may be connected to this
because Epstein had all sorts of connections with these world leaders.
There could be many different governments involved. So maybe just
think outside the jew hating box, you know, Oh, I
kid I kid, Beth says, or no, sorry, this is
from Mike or Lisa, uh pete, stop it with the
common sense. It's madness. Madness. I say, here's a question.
How come Democrats aren't outraged and tearing their shirts that
Trump said to the press that Clinton went to the
island thirty times. Shouldn't that be slander? Says Johnny Steve says.
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