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Speaker 6: The Marriott Center last night covering this BYU men's basketball
teams they dominated.
Speaker 5: I believe Christian. Let's welcome to Ronald the three man.
We were what's up.
Speaker 3: Ronnie whatep? I was down there. I did see a
great game, and look I said it on Twitter, on
my page, and I'll sit on the areas of booking.
Speaker 4: AJ.
Speaker 3: Debond says the number one draft pick in the twenty
twenty six th YA draft. Kyle Collinsworth made TNT with
this tweet. We need to get him on the show,
and I agree with him. If you don't say AJ
is number one and number two, Not only do I
question your basketball IQ, you don't.
Speaker 4: You should never speak over about basketball again.
Speaker 3: That dude is ridiculous to put back down Colonney's reaction.
You have one of the Pula twins there his his reaction. Look,
we're supposed to be objective, been in the media, everyone
in front of me on prey and if they try
to lie, I will call them out on this airway. Myself,
I was next to Sean Walker, Jake Hatch, the BAU
social media. We all like we reacted because it was
it just didn't expect like a windmill type esque putback,
Like I like.
Speaker 4: I stood up.
Speaker 3: I was like, what did I just witness like we
like people grabbed each other. That was I think that's
the most ridiculous putback gunk I've seen in college basketball
in a long time.
Speaker 4: I could not believe it. Everyone was genuinely shocked.
Speaker 3: Mihaiala Baskovich's reaction, Kalanie's reaction, I mean, Brian Santiaga. I
think someone even has a video what a reaction of
Shane Reeson Elder Bednar as well like that. That was
a genuine moment of pure, you know, excellence. So I
don't know what you how you were at the couch,
but seeing that in person, I was just shaking my head.
Of this kid's unbelievable, Ben, He's unbelievable.
Speaker 6: Well, first and foremost, it was an amazing game. It
was a dominant game for this BA basketball team. But
we know who the real MVP is of this squad
right now, and he's gonna lead to the glory, to
victory even though there are three season ending injuries on
the roster, something that I don't think. I don't know
if any BA basketball team has ever faced and I
don't think ky Kevin Young has ever faced that in
his career. Like, I mean, you figure three cities and
ending injuries when you're saying that it's the football team,
not the basketball team. So it's pretty crazy to see
still dominant, still depth and ballin from the entirety of
the team, despite three season ending injuries from individuals that
at least two that you knew were going to be
high level contributors. In The third to be determined, but
I think we have a little bit more of a
of an idea who that third is going to be.
It has not been I don't think officially announced just yet.
Will get official confirmation hopefully in the week to come.
Speaker 5: But Aj is the real deal.
Speaker 6: And it still blows my mind that over like a
year and a half ago, we started hearing rumblings that
Aj Debonsa was highly interested in BYU and that b
YU had a chance that Byu was in his top five,
top six, that Ace de Bonsa, his father said to him, Look,
I know by you may not be in it for
you right now, but I think you need to take
a long hard look at Brigham Young University and what
they're doing, what they're trying to build, what they're trying
to create down there, a true MBA pipeline to be
what you remember k Y at his press conference, do
you remember Ronald the three man Weaver what his words were?
And they took us back, They it blew us away
that he said BYU provo capitol p r oh lowercase
vo would become a professional pipeline to the National Basketball Association,
the Jerry West logo, the league led by goats like
Lebron the real Goat, MJ. Kobe, Kareem, all of the greatness, Wilt, Distilled,
Bill Russell, name them all.
Speaker 5: That is what we're creating in provo. You gotta be
kidding me.
Speaker 6: And that's what I think about when I see AJ
ballin and dropping thirty and having a full fledged stat
line of playmaking and distribution and rebounding doing it all
the sequences of his playmaking ability, his ability to dribble, drive, penetrate, spin,
scoop score, hang, just get his shot, pump fake. He
is so refined, he is so polished for being such
a young man. The shots he's getting, okay, obviously he's
a phenomenal athlete.
Speaker 5: He's a freak.
Speaker 6: But he's creating these beautifully executed shots that will work
in the NBA. They're gonna work in the NBA versus taller, longer, faster, stronger,
more polished defenders. And that's what gets you excited as well,
because you're seeing just greatness before your eyes. You're never
gonna see this again. I don't know if you're ever
gonna get in a I don't want to say never,
but like because khy Man, anything's possible with k Why
in this coaching staff. But you're most likely never gonna
see an Aj to Bonsa again because he is not
only a.
Speaker 5: Star in the NBA.
Speaker 6: He's not only gonna be a star, meaning he's gonna
be one of the top ten to fifteen players I
think in the NBA, maybe top twenty in the NBA
at worst. That's at worst. At best, he'll become the
face of the league. And that's what's so insane to me,
Ronald the three man weaver. AJ could end up becoming
the face of the NBA, and that's never happened for
a BYU alum. Obviously in the NBA, we've had to
a certain degree. In the NFL, Steve Young, you can
say Steve Young was the face of the league and
his heyday, that was why so many BYU fans became
forty nine er fans, quite honestly, and growing up I
had like I had friends that they were all forty
nine er fans.
Speaker 5: I'm like, you guys aren't from San Francisco, Like yeah,
but Steve Young, Steve Young, Steve Young. And it's just
the way that is.
Speaker 6: Now Now we're gonna have wherever AJ goes, We're we
become fans. I know a lot of Utah Jazz fans here,
a lot of Utah jazz, but we are going to
now become mba non Utah Jazz NBA fans, And that's.
Speaker 5: That's crazy to me. Ronald the three man Weaver. It's
a it's a it's a it's an iconic time.
Speaker 6: It's a singular time for BYU athletics and BYU basketball.
Speaker 3: Well, I mean connect to the football, and I know
we're discussing basketball. I mean it's like those that are
fans of Andy Reid and you know the Philadelphia Eagles
when he was there and now the Kansas City Chiefs.
You follow the player, you followed the coach, and that's
what you become fans of. And yes, wherever AJ goes
been Ben, we will be fans of for our entire life.
I don't care if he yeah is playing for the
Utah Jazz, you know, I mean, for crying out loud,
he could have switched to football and played for the
Green Bay Packers.
Speaker 4: And I'm from Chicago and I.
Speaker 3: Would root for that man, even though I even though
we hate the cheese heads. You just as wherever AJ goes,
it's like jeg Or, it will always be a connection
you always have. And this is where bau Brand becomes nationally. Ben,
It's interesting of I have talked to people who I
know that live in New York that graduated from school
with me or other people members of the church and
have senior yegor playing person they gone down. So that
just lets you know the connection of b YU and
nationally you know the brand of members of the church,
of how people are still able to be in tune
with BYU athletics, and I think that's phenomenal.
Speaker 4: So Age is gonna have that opportunity.
Speaker 3: But yes, Ben, you're right, we are never going to
see and when I say never, I think this high
level of a talent that could be the face of
league and we could be wrong about that, but I
don't know if we're really ever gonna see this good play.
I think you could see a number of future number
one overall Kevin Young could get because anything's possible. Under
Kevin Young, you could see a top five pick. But
I don't think this type of guy that can have
that level of playmaking. Before the half is over, he's driving,
wants to take the pull up, wants to force it.
Probably can get to the basket because of how long
he is chooses to kick it to Mohilo, and then
Mihilo knocks down to three. Shout out to us are
and talking about Mohaloy had a phenomenal game. We'll hear
it from the postgame momentarily to tease it. But Kevin
Young talked about his three blocks. Mahalo was really committed
to the defensive side of the ball. But AJ's playmaking
is so underrated. Greg Ribella put out a stat and
it's your rebounds plus your turnovers, plus your assist everything,
and his entire efficiency bend was a plus thirty eight.
Speaker 4: That's ridiculous. Like that is that that's insane?
Speaker 3: Like and you guys that are listening, what I mean
by that is like when you're playing in a basketball game,
it's the entire thing. It's it's the passes that you make,
it's the number of rebounds to points, it'sist how you screen,
the fouls that you it's everything that you did on
the court. And last night, everything that he did from
top to bottom, from defending.
Speaker 4: Guys to forcing turnovers to drawing fouls was a plus thirty.
That is ridiculous.
Speaker 3: You don't get that in college basketball yet alone, even
in the NBIA.
Speaker 4: That is a hard thing to do. Like that type
of performance been.
Speaker 3: I don't want this to come off as hyperfoctly, but
that is a.
Speaker 4: All time college basketball performance.
Speaker 3: I know it's ambling Christian, but like they've been there
six in the country and their free throw to turnover
march and how they get up on you enforce people
like they're really good in doing that. So that was
a good basketball team they played last night, and they
made it difficult for bou At Thomas dot Kiba, who's
dealing with, you know, with an illness and the bug
going around. But to me, aj look that said Kevin
Durant lebron type of performance in the NBA in a
game seven of a you know, an NBA Finals to
show up the way he did to ball out like
he had twenty six men and said not only I
was like, he might go for forty. And it was
I think six or seven minutes. Level said he legit
might be able to get forty. And I was like,
I had to start thinking, Ben, we had to start
going through the game notes. When was the last time
a BOU basketball player dropped forty? And he's the first
player been want to give a lot of level. We
need to put this out on your Twitter. He is
the first I think BAU player to score six or
seven twenty point games since Jimmerferd Debt.
Speaker 4: This is twenty eleven.
Speaker 3: It's been over fourteen years, been since you've had a
player that's been able to be this dominant offensively.
Speaker 5: It's insane, truly it is.
Speaker 6: Debota scored a career high thirty five, number ten BYU
dominates in the second half. Their second half team, their
second half team, and I just want to be a
first half team. I had to say, I want to
be a holistic team. I want to be a full
fledged basketball team, because maybe then we would have covered
Maybe then we would have you know it had AJ
would have had forty, Yeah, he would have forty plush
maybe the best stat line in college basketball this year,
and that's what I wanted, That's what I needed. I
will comment here before we get into some of the
storylines that came out of this game and then get
into some of the post games.
Speaker 5: Sound Aj is a freak athlete. We know that.
Speaker 6: And the windmill put back dunk was phenomenal. I mean,
just one of the It's the best dunk in Blu
basketball history. It's the best put back at least in
bau basketball history. Okay, I do think there is an
element of a dunk that, like, I value dunks differently
for the form and fashion which they're executed. Put back
dunks are one thing, especially when they're over the top
of a human. Dunking over the top of someone off
the bounce, to me is always better, right, So, like
I always say, like if it's off the bounce and
you dunk somebody dunk over somebody, that's like, that's like
the creme de la creme. Your transition dunks when it's
wide open, like, it's great. It's more like a slam
dunk contest than anything because you're in transition. I probably
put that down on the scale. And Ronald I want
your opinion on this as well. So, like my favorite
dunks are off the bounce, over the top with somebody.
Second favorite dunks is to put back over the top
of somebody. Third favorite is you know, like those transition
dunks that that are high flying and you know, creative
in nature of the windmills, the three sixties, et cetera.
Speaker 5: Would you grate them out similarly?
Speaker 6: Like for you when you get hyped, like if you're
gonna grate out the best dunks and be what you
basketball history?
Speaker 5: Is that how you witch sequence the sequence that.
Speaker 4: Yes, if you catch a body, that's the first one.
Speaker 3: Put backs would be the second, you know, and then
the third obviously you get one, you know, and obviously
first and off the bounce, and then the third one
if you you know, if you get a lob and
catch it over someone, that's kind of how I rank it, right,
because that's how it has to be.
Speaker 4: Man, that's what you get hyped on.
Speaker 3: And look, it might be one B and maybe we
need to put this out of your Twitter and ask
and you might already done. So hey, is this the
best basketball best dunk billie basketball history? Because here's the
one that here's the one that I always think about, Ben,
and I know you would like this. I go back
to the Delta Center, and this is why I think
this one's still better. It's a rival, Yoie. Child's is great,
and he caught two bodies. He came down the lane
and he baptized two people on a dunk. And I
was sitting at home. Oh yeah, you know, I was
sitting at home. And we ran around the living room
for like fifty minutes and we just kept rewinding.
Speaker 4: So I think the agent wanted to think it.
Speaker 3: If you want to say one be I won't argue,
but they only Child's one because it was a robbery.
Speaker 5: Again, yeah, against the one mess dunk.
Speaker 4: That might be the best dunk in BYU history. I think.
Speaker 6: I think so, too like, And I'll put it out
there for Cougar fans and chime in on.
Speaker 5: Like to me, the only one still like.
Speaker 6: Holds a very special place in my heart because he
caught bodies and he was kind of off the balanced
type of deal. So I love that. I love that take.
Let's let's delve into this a little bit. Applein Christian
they're an okay team, They're not a horrible team. They're
an Okay team, they're seven to five. They came into
seven and four. This was a great game, a nice
warm up, you know, leading into Big twelve. Play BYU
was slow in the first half and there.
Speaker 5: Was turnovers goalore.
Speaker 6: Once again, we have to figure out, like what's going
on in the first half. Turnovers were a factor throughout,
with the teams combining for thirty four turnovers. BYU did
not take the lead until eight point fifteen remained in
the first half. After taking a six point lead into halftime,
the Cougar's got twenty one second half points from de
Bonsa alongside a sixty five percent shooting percentage to extend
their advantage.
Speaker 5: This is what Kay had to say postgame. They're the
sixth best.
Speaker 6: In the country on free throw turnover rates. I was
disappointed because everything that we did, they were. Everything we
said they were going to do, they did, and we
took the bait in the first ten minutes of the game.
In the second ten minutes of the game, I thought
we had better ball toughness.
Speaker 5: But it was good. Ioways States going to do the
same thing.
Speaker 6: Houston is going to do the same thing, so our
guys got used to playing against that type of pressure.
Speaker 5: You have to give them all the credit. They were
good with that.
Speaker 6: The Bonsa finished, as I mentioned, with thirty five points
out of twelve shooting to go along with six rebounds, forces,
two steals, one block, and a partridge in a pair three. Additionally,
de Bonsa went seventeen of twenty from the free throw line,
setting program freshman records for both makes and attempts to
Bonsa has now scored twenty or more points in five
straight games, becoming the first Cougar to do such since
Jim for Debt.
Speaker 5: Nothing but debt Net.
Speaker 6: Teach me how to jimmer Ajata, Bonsas said, and he
overcame the Gimmer.
Speaker 5: He surpassed the Gimmer.
Speaker 6: Thus far, it's gonna be tough to surpass Jimmermania, but
maybe it can happen in March Madness this year, Richie
Saunders reached the twenty plateau for the sixth time this
season and the twenty first time of his career with
his twenty one points on six of ten shooting. The Riverton,
Utah product added three rebounds, three assists, three steals, one
block to his statue. What a nice healthy stat line
from Ritchie the tot King.
Speaker 5: I love tots. I'm gonna go eat some tots later. Today.
Speaker 6: The Cougars outshot the Wildcats fifty nine point five percent
from the field to forty point seven percent, out rebounded
thirty to twenty six, out block nine to zero, out
assisted fifteen to fourteen, and outstoles twelve to seven. You
know what stat I love from this game, it's the
out block nine to zero.
Speaker 5: Because we didn't have love that sat yet, you know.
Speaker 6: What I mean, Like you figure like ah Man Cable's out,
we were not gonna have as many blocks. Now everyone's
stepped up. Everyone was contesting shots on the perimeter.
Speaker 5: It seam.
Speaker 6: And then also I thought Mahilo did a nice job
being a five man. We need Mihilo to be the
bucketfitch that we signed him to be, and we're starting
to see a little bit more.
Speaker 5: Progress with Mahilo. What do you make of it, Ronald
and three man Weaver?
Speaker 3: Yeah, look uh and this is this more schematic thing,
Ben right, And I know that this is gonna be difficult,
but it's really difficult for a high low in KEBA
to play on the court at the same time because
Mihilo's a true stretch five and the way he's able
to shoot the basketball, and Kaiba it just being a
paint presence look, and that's that's the tough part, right.
But you saw in this game, excuse me with Kiva
being out what Mihilo was able to do. The basketball
player we've been saying it, you know, just has to
step up and do the role. And we're gonna get
to this sound here momentarily. But Kevin Young debated, you
know about well, we we thought about how do we
play three centers.
Speaker 4: It was it was difficult.
Speaker 3: You could argue that Mihilo has already battle tested for
us at the five as a stretch five. So I
love what I saw from Mihialo and you mentioned it
out blocking Ableine Christian, I do, I do want to
give some grace, you know, to by you and Kevin
Young mentioned it phenomenal job. But the way Abilene Christian
was playing defense, I know, bah you started off slow
a little bit. And AJ will mention it here in
the post game two as well. But it reminded me
of Houston, Iowa State. I was sitting there and I
turned next to Sean Walker and I said, doesn't this
remind you just of Iowa State and Houston and other
teams and the Big twelve. UCF He's like one hundred percent.
He's like this team, like this team that plays that
exact style. He was like, the pressure that they have
on ball, getting passing lanes, hands been what they saw
last night is exactly what they're gonna see in a
few weeks in the Big Twelve. So I thought this
was a really good game. I know that that they
didn't start the way they wanted to, but you gotta
give Abalene Christian credit that they were really forcing bau
to take some tough shots and doing that. But look,
if you thought this game was gonna be your toughest game,
then you're very confused, because Arizona's gonna be tough. This
Big Twelve Conference is no joke. But I'm glad that
they got this test out of the way to see
that physicality and experience that, and I think they'll be
ready to go. But the defense was phenomenal last night,
being committed to the boards.
Speaker 4: But look, I think we all have to give credit.
Speaker 5: Now.
Speaker 3: Kibakida is the biggest presence in the center, and he
can argue as one of the heart beats of this team.
Been not having him in the game and not having
him down there. You saw how the game was affected,
not necessarily maybe shot blocking, but rebounding his second chance points.
So gotta get him healthy, got to get him back
once he's over the illness. But I think that showed
me a lot last night that you know, number thirteen
had her so much to this team and interviewing Chris
Burgess or you know early last week.
Speaker 4: Bau needs k.
Speaker 3: Bakada, you know, to get over the illness because he's
gonna have a big impact. He's a fourth best player
on this team. Man, he can't have your fourth best
player being out due to illness. But he'll be back,
no problem, I think shortly.
Speaker 5: Boom Shaka laka. Why don't we get to the sound?
Speaker 6: Post game sound is by you triumph over the Abilene
Christian crew that came in the Wildcats. It was a
little cougar on cougar action and it was it was dicey,
It was a little bit uh.
Speaker 5: It was a little bit scary that first halfter, like
what the world is going on?
Speaker 6: This team needs to figure out their first half game plans.
The second half looks tremendous, though they ended up getting
a convincing victory, not covering No. Eighty five to sixty
seven I had picked.
Speaker 5: I think I thought they would get the hundred spot.
Speaker 6: I think that I thought that they would eclipse the hundred,
but they did not, unfortunately, not enough firepower versus the
Abilene Christian Wildcats. But the post game who did we
interview in post gamp? K? Why is kay Why?
Speaker 5: First?
Speaker 3: Yes, we got Kay Why and then after Kevin yone.
Speaker 4: Will do a j De bonson Richie Saunders.
Speaker 5: All right, let's tune in K why Kevin Yong? Post
game question?
Speaker 4: First off, what was the reaction to AJ stunk?
Speaker 1: Have you ever seen anything like that before? I mean,
I'll be honest, I'm pretty.
Speaker 7: Stoic over there when like cool stuff happens just because
you're thinking about the next play. And I feel like
I've seen a lot of plays in my life, but
I did react.
Speaker 5: To that one.
Speaker 1: That was insane.
Speaker 7: That was I can't wait to watch it on a film.
But what a gifted player, man, that was unbelievable.
Speaker 5: You ever seen a.
Speaker 8: Guy get thirty five points on twelve shots.
Speaker 7: I don't want to say too much about what I
really want to say about the officiating even though we
shot forty free throws.
Speaker 1: That's how that team plays. You know, they're super aggressive.
Speaker 7: They foul a lot, and you know they're a hard
team to play against because of it. But you know,
AJ's smart player, you know, he he understood what they
were doing and he was doing a good job of
using that against them.
Speaker 1: And that was impressive.
Speaker 5: Kay.
Speaker 3: How how unique is that for a guy to get
twenty free throw a tens in the game?
Speaker 1: Ian not no, not anyone can do it? No? Uh?
Speaker 7: Uh you know r Richie got eight. You know, so
he wasn't quite up there. But I thought he started
figuring out too. But but again, it like that's one
of the th great things about Aj is his intelligence
for the game. You know, they he figured out real
quick what what what it was gonna.
Speaker 1: Be all night?
Speaker 7: And you know, I, like I said, you know, I
I thought he could have got to the foul line
even more just because of uh, you know, I guess
you can't call every foul. He had that nice stretch,
uh in the first half on the full court press
where he forced back back turnovers.
Speaker 1: Which what do you make of his defensive performance in
this game?
Speaker 7: Yeah, I mean he's you know, like as much as
I I given them credit, as they deserve a lot
because they're a good defensive team.
Speaker 1: They're grimmy and they turn you over.
Speaker 7: And I mean that complimentary way about Our defense was
just as grimy, honestly.
Speaker 1: Now, we pulled off some.
Speaker 7: Of the pressure, cause I thought they were they were
breaking it at after a certain point.
Speaker 1: But you know, it's it's tough with AJ and move
up at the front of that thing.
Speaker 7: There's a lot of length and a lot of athleticism
up there.
Speaker 1: So it's, uh, it's impressive.
Speaker 4: What are your thoughts on the turnovers tonight? What do
you think led to maybe some of the slump.
Speaker 7: Well, they they they turned the s. They they they're
free throw turnover rates to six best in the country.
So that's what they do. And so I was disappointed cause,
you know, everything that we said they were gonna do,
they did, and we took debit.
Speaker 1: In the first ten minutes of the game.
Speaker 7: Second ten minutes of the game, I thought we had
much better ball toughness.
Speaker 1: But it was good.
Speaker 5: Though.
Speaker 1: You know, Iowa State's gonna do the same thing. Houston's
gonna do the same thing.
Speaker 7: So our guys gotta get used to playing against that
type of pressure.
Speaker 1: But you have to give them all the credit. They
were good tonight with.
Speaker 4: That val How could he play in this first prison I.
Speaker 7: You know he he did what he did. You know
the moment starting wasn't too big for him. He came in,
you know he he plays with uh a great motor.
The most the thing I was the most proud of
is just three blocks and h and be high.
Speaker 1: Those three blocks. We talked.
Speaker 7: I was extremely disappointed in some of our rim protection
last game. That was a point of emphasis coming into
this game. So I like that specifically.
Speaker 3: All Right, I want to just stop it here, Ben,
and we were and I told you I was gonna
do this. Going back to the previous comment, then we'll
talk about Hadim's you know, first career start. Abiliene Christian
was picking up BYU at times ninety four feet not
the whole time, right because they got in foul trouble.
They had to come off of it. Houston, Iowa State
and other teams are going to do that to you
all game long. Like the you're gonna have to do
the same way you seef, Ben, They're gonna have to
deal with that. For forty age is gonna be picked
up for forty minutes.
Speaker 4: Of times, full core pressure.
Speaker 3: Rob right, Richie, like you don't get a day off,
even Arizona. You go back to last year with Kaleb
Love was tasked to guard Richie. He was guarding Richie
ninety four feet like this. The intensity in this pressure
is about the up. So yes, you do need to
get off to a faster start. But if and I
just want to preface this for the fans, if you
thought the Abilene Christian game had its moments of up
and down because every game has roller coasters, you haven't
seen anything yet. Then, like I've watched Houston's game, I've
watched Iowa State. It's the same suffocating defense that they've
always done. They're not gonna take a playoff bin. And look,
I'm I'm worried. What guys get tired, you know, Like,
and this is why I think the bench needs to add,
you know, add some some some scoring to it to
relieve pressure off because look, they can say what they want,
coaching staff, information directors, I don't care, and they might
get taken personal. When I look at the minutes played
on this sheet against Abilene Christian, I don't know if
that's going to be sustainable throughout the entire conference play
with the likes of Iowa State, Arizona and Houston, that's
just a lot to ask To ask Richie to play
thirty two minutes a night, to ask Rob to play
thirty four minutes a night, to ask Azy to play
thirty five.
Speaker 4: Third like they can do it. They're capable, But.
Speaker 3: That night and night out like that's going to be tough,
especially with defense because Abilene Christian is gonna be twice
as worse with Houston because you know how Calvin Samson
has been. You know what he does. He's got a
full low the roster of guys, like they wake up
at five am, been in the offseason and they're running miles.
The average mile in that team I think was like
five forty eight like like this, that team is extremely conditioned.
Speaker 4: And if you think I'm playing, I'm not playing.
Speaker 3: Do you remember the game against Duke Duke scored one
point or had one field going ten minutes, hey, and
it came from Cooper flag. They shut out a team
for nearly ten minutes, ten minutes like so, this is
not hyperbole. I'm bringing this up of that. If you
can't handle pressure against Abilene.
Speaker 4: When you get to when you get to conference play
in a week and a half.
Speaker 3: Oh, baby, man, you're gonna have some people that's gonna
be strapped up.
Speaker 4: Now.
Speaker 3: I believe that this team will figure it out, to
have faith, but I just want to preference that because
Houston and Iowa State are fantastic defensively and I saw
some things at Babeling Christian where I'm like, that needs
to get fixed sooner rather than later.
Speaker 6: Yeah, I think you're onto something there. And look, the
great thing about pre conference games is you get to
learn without really going against uh, you know, the most
formidable foes, right and uh, and so it's a great
way to learn.
Speaker 5: I love learning through winning.
Speaker 6: Rather than learning through losing, especially in non conference play.
And uh, right now, boy is a great resume. They'll
continue to Uh, they have some prep prior to Big
twelve play.
Speaker 5: Let's get back to the k Y sound.
Speaker 6: Keis something like you wanted to see without Kevi and
there's the interior defensive lead.
Speaker 1: Yeah definitely.
Speaker 6: Uh.
Speaker 1: You know, Kve is unbelievable in.
Speaker 7: There, you know, and so when he's out that leaves
a gaping hole. And so you know, we we you know,
we talked about some different options. You know, I thought
about starting Xavion to be honest, we throw him in there.
Ultimately decided to start adem h And I thought he
was spotted in a pretty positive way. And me, I
think that was is that his second game in a
row with double digit rebounds.
Speaker 1: I think it is.
Speaker 7: So you know, he's doing some good things for us,
and you know he's just obviously a freshman. So to
be able to you know, learn, learn and play is uh,
you know, it's beneficial.
Speaker 4: Why do you give uh State more minutes than if
if you're considered starting him.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean it's just hard.
Speaker 7: When it's hard to play three centers, it just is
it's you know, it's no it's really no knock on him.
I mean he's uh, he's had his moments, but I
feel like hit a deem is is uh, you know,
earned a bit, a bit bigger of a role. And
you know, Mihailo is a guy who's battle tested for
us at the five, who you could make a argument
that he.
Speaker 1: Also deserves more minutes.
Speaker 7: It's just you know, it's hard to uh, it's hard
to play three centers.
Speaker 4: I gotta wish yourself, coach, were the last two years
in the conference. I think you're twenty and two now.
Speaker 7: In those games, you know, I think it's uh, I
think probably a bit more impressive this year than last
in terms of that stat that you just mentioned. But
you know, their games are great because they get you
ready for conference.
Speaker 1: Play, you know.
Speaker 7: And I'm glad we scheduled that team cause they're they're
a hard team to play against.
Speaker 5: You know.
Speaker 7: It's when you can kind of just walk through a
game and do whatever you want, you know, I don't
think you get as much.
Speaker 1: And so that's what I told their coach after me.
Speaker 7: You guys are you know, a hard team to play against,
and it definitely made it better.
Speaker 3: What at you frustrated early in the second half to
led to that technical.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean, and again I'm not you know, I'm
not trying to.
Speaker 7: You know, brate the officials. That's not my style. You
gotta see me coach enough games. But look, I mean,
they put these tapes out before the season of points
of emphasis, and then when those points of emphasis are
followed in a game, especially when a team is kind
of like that's what they do, it's a little bit frustrating.
So I just was probably frustrated, you know, have a
newborn dude, I'm grouchy.
Speaker 6: So okay, so you like it, you dislike it, you're
neutral with it. Ka why getting a T in that
situation versus Avenue Christian on his home court, he was
He was very lively, he was very angry with that.
That that with that, with those reps.
Speaker 3: I won't utter the words because I'm not allowed as
to find of what he might have said. But uh,
he's fighting for his guy. He's been Look, at the
end of the day, it's basketball, right that happens.
Speaker 4: Ben, I mean, you played.
Speaker 3: If a flag comes for defending your guys or the
coach defending his players. Look, I'm not gonna be upset.
Kalanne's gotten flagged a time or two. Get in the
I love it, I love it, I respect it. I
mean to go to the NBA. There's a Viour clip
going around of Anthony Edwards, you know, saying I'm effing
with you know, Chris Finch getting you know, kicked out
of the game. He's like, you know, he's like, I
love that he's fighting for It's like the players love
their coaches, you know, standing on business and coaches love
when their players stand up bitiness both you know, or
a match made in heaven. So I have no problem
with k Why getting that. I know he's being funny.
I'm grouchy about that, but look, Kevin Young is in
the NBA. Ben he said this last year and this
is not and I don't want anybody to get upset
with this, but he's right. You can't guard that way
in the NBA. And that's his mindset. Steal is why
are you allowed to guard this way in college basketball
if it's not done at the highest level.
Speaker 4: So he's gonna do that.
Speaker 3: He's always gonna critique and he's always gonna fight for
his guys. But I think that's a great thing. I
think it's okay to get a technical foul.
Speaker 4: You know. I remember Mark Pup got that for the
water bottle of Mark Durampa.
Speaker 3: I think it's okay to get frustrated because you're trying
to they're competitive too, and we've heard it from a
couple of people now, we heard it from Trevin Hill yesterday.
Kevin Young is up there and the coaches now being
extremely competitive. So I have no problem with this technical foul.
It is completely okay. Look, it's like when Cahill Fanila
got the technical foul for getting up and chirping. I
love when they chirped because guess what happened after that?
After you church right, they got calls like So it's okay.
It's sometimes it gets the officials back on your good
side to be able to do that.
Speaker 4: So I think that's totally fine.
Speaker 6: You gotta take it real quick, little college football update
watching this Miami game. I don't know if you're keeping
tasks on keeping tabs, but I wanted to get a
little scoreboard update. If you're driving around, you're tuning in.
We do have Miami versus Texas am going on right
now in the second eleven thirty two left and it's
zero to zero, no score, no dice, no nothing. But
I will say, there's so last night Alabama I got
to win over Oklahoma that it was a nice win
on Oklahoma's home field, and that's great. But uh, and
so we're getting into these college football playoff games with
which Jake ret Slothwell is the two lane Wave take
on Ole Miss.
Speaker 5: You hope they can shock the world. That will be
at one thirty.
Speaker 6: But Kiante Scott just had a sack script strip fumble
and I think Miami may have recovered it. Kiante Scott
once upon a time. It's they're starting nickel there at Miami.
Speaker 8: Once U.
Speaker 6: By the time, Kiante Scott was at Snow College, Okay,
and tons of BYU ties, tons of BYU kind of
teammates his head coach, Zach Erg's and a BYU former player,
and I believe Miles Davis was a good childhood friends
of his, so Conty Scott hopped onto our show multiple times.
Speaker 5: B way you had a chance.
Speaker 6: We just didn't have the influx. We were slow playing.
We were slow playing the Nio game. We did remember
when we initially launched our Nio game, it was the
built for life built bar program, right, and it was
all about having everyone on the team, including walk ons,
getting paid and there was really no hierarchy. And we
I think we did that in a conservative way because
we didn't want to get out in front of this
and be like the first to delve into Nio because
it was still viewed as illegal, Like the people didn't
realize at that time. Shout out to the monks and
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what I'm saying is we had a chance for Kiante
and now he's balling out in the colleg football player.
We've got two guys that I mean, Keelan could have
been a be a be a part of BYU had
he not transferred, which you gotta be able to retain
those guys. But both guys that can help you win
football games. I just wanted to point that out, uh,
that that we got chances. We can get some great
players here in Provo at any rate. Let's get back
to the sound recap that, and then we'll get out
to I will take a brief time out. We'll welcome
in Will Snowden on the flip side of Alpha recruits.
Speaker 5: Let's get back to the k y sound.
Speaker 1: I brought up earlier that your team kind of took
the bait. What was that that bait.
Speaker 7: That acud sped us up without playing off two in
the paint, you know, driving into crowds, not like begging
for the ball and not back cutting, you know, when
you saw the opposite, like you know, move back cuts, layup,
you know, move drives, plays off to swing, swing wide
open shots. So that's why I was frustrated with the
guys a little bit in the first you know, half
of the first half, but I did think they adjusted
and then look some of the turnover the second half, you.
Speaker 1: Know, a couple runouts and transition.
Speaker 7: But I mean, you know, those those guys played hard
and they made they made uh, they made plays with
their athleticism.
Speaker 1: Kevin with Alexi and Tyler had the same rule.
Speaker 5: How are you are you?
Speaker 1: How are you going about? Yeah?
Speaker 5: I don't know.
Speaker 7: I wish I had a great, like s super well
thought out answer for you. I I'm just you know,
I'm on the fence a little bit, to be honest
with it. You know, I think they're different. You know,
they're different. Alexey provides a little bit more ball handling
where Tyler, you know, he's a little bit bigger. He's
a little bit you know, tougher in the sense of
sticks his nose in a fight. Not that Alexey's not
a tough kid, but think Tyler's toughness rears. It's had
a little bit more in moments. So part of it is,
you know, when Rob comes out, I do like Alexey
in there with AJ just to have another ball handler
out there, and then.
Speaker 1: You know, I don't know it's gonna be It's a
decent problem to have.
Speaker 7: But uh, I'm glad that they've had these couple games
to get some good minutes under their belt and we'll
just continue to, you know, have of a competitive practices
and see who continues to earn minutes.
Speaker 4: He's the illness that Kate was dealing with.
Speaker 8: Is that the same thing?
Speaker 1: And say he went through as well? I think so, yeah.
Speaker 7: I mean it's I just think there's a little thing
going around period. Like half my family has it and
hopefully he just rides the wave and he's better soon.
Speaker 4: Mentioned I think he wanted twelve Jay podcast, which it
could be a third potentially season an injury.
Speaker 1: How do you feel like the roster is going to
conference play?
Speaker 7: I think we'll have I think we're getting close to
having a little bit more information readily available on that topic,
so I'll just kind of wait for that to get there.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I am disappointed, and.
Speaker 5: No questions about the great article about the dunk. By
the way, a great article about the Wait, so he
called you guys out. Shout out to Cougar fan showing
up to the warehouse here at Pleasant Grove to call
us out.
Speaker 4: We missed an opportunity to ask about the dunk.
Speaker 5: Yeh wait, wait, so who wrote an article?
Speaker 3: It was Jackson Payne. He pointed to Jackson Payne because
Jackson wrote article. Jackson was confused because he didn't know
it for what he was talking about. He thought he'd
been a different recap and Brandon disbanded, tell him know
your article about him, Dunky, though he's like, oh, the viral,
like Jackson, even though look, sometimes we cluses to media members, dude,
sometimes we're locked in and focus just on the game
itself and other.
Speaker 4: Stuff, and we should have.
Speaker 3: But look now that we've opened up with Ky enough,
where we've started asking about you know, Mitch was asking
that Mitch Harborough KSL Sports asked about his quarter zip stuff.
You know, you know he gave the piano rocito. I
asked about you know, sons basketball. Now that we've he's
opened up a little bit more. If we don't do
these moments now, he's like, I'm upset you guys to
ask about the dunk. So now we're gonna have to
pay attention to the coaches showing these funny moments to
ask him more. But that's why I posted on your Twitter.
It was it was the right thing to do. We
messed up. We dropped the ball.
Speaker 4: Ky.
Speaker 3: I apologize we missed an opportunity. We should have asked
about the dunk. Ben, so what I had made up
for it and we'll play this sound later, I asked AJ,
And I know the interview was over, so shout out
to Tyson Jackson letting me get that last question even
though we're out. I was like, can you confirm that
Kevin can youngka dunk? And AJ debonds said sadly, yes
I can.
Speaker 1: So.
Speaker 4: It was a little jokingly but hopefully that made up
for it.
Speaker 3: But yes, we forgot to ask Kevin Young about him
dunking and basketball and him dunking.
Speaker 4: A volleyball, you know, I think earlier this year.
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Speaker 5: Let's get out to the hot live.
Speaker 6: Welcome informer b YU running back, wide receiver, punt returner,
kick returner.
Speaker 5: He could do it all.
Speaker 6: He's uh the owner operator of Alpha Recruits.
Speaker 5: He is the one, the only Will Snowden. How the
heck are you? Will? Thanks for joining us today.
Speaker 8: Happy to be with you, Ben. How are you, brother?
Speaker 5: I'm doing fantastic. Brother. Are you gonna come by the
warehouse sale get some gear?
Speaker 8: Well, you know, Ben, I've got a lot going on today.
I'm gonna try and get there. But to be honest,
I can't guarantee.
Speaker 5: You Okay, no worries, Man. I appreciate you joining us today. Will.
Speaker 6: It is the craziest time of the year. It's transfer
portal season. How would you describe transfer portal season from
your purview? From your pulpit? You know, I know you're busy,
You're you're on the grind right now. It's the craziest
time of the year probably for you.
Speaker 8: Yeah, it is. It's a very crazy time and it
makes and then you have the holidays. It's it's really
making for a crazy time for me and you know,
Uh and the wife, you know, and the family. I'm
super busy doing a lot contract is you know, I
think we're doing twenty seven contracts, actually thirty three contracts
this month for players, and it's it's absolutely insane. I'm
just play you the truth. It's insane, but it's fun
and keep sing Disney for sure.
Speaker 6: How many of these contracts are negotiated in person typically,
and how many of them are like via zoom.
Speaker 8: It's kind of fifty to fifty. This week, I've been
down at on do I US campus for several hours
and in Salt Lake City for several hours, and then
I've done deals at Colorado and North Carolina State USC,
Oregon State, Boise State, CSU.
Speaker 5: Yeah.
Speaker 8: So a lot of the out of state ones are
we do zoom calls and just kind of go back
and forth. But the local ones I'm able to get
into the office and kind of sit down face to face.
I like to do a face to face because you
get the chance to really get a feel of what
they're thinking about the offer or what you're presenting them
on the player. So I do like to be face
to face it whatever I can.
Speaker 6: Well, I know it's chaotic, but these are great opportunities.
What do you make of the calendar though, like if
you had an idealistic calendar, when would this happen?
Speaker 5: Would it would it happen.
Speaker 6: After the college football playoff? Would there is there an
idealistic calendar for for you and what you do?
Speaker 8: Yeah, I mean it's really tough. I you know, I
understand where they came up with this time, but this
time kind of thinks I just don't think there's an
idealistic time because number one, yeah, I mean, I guess
that the contract to be negotiated differently, but almost where
they get through the whole year, like Transford Portal opens,
you know at the end of April or May, and
then you know everyone's moving from school to school, so
you're only getting summer workouts and then the fall. But
now you know, with it going from January tecod through
the sixteenth, there's school is going to be in session,
so there will be guys who are making their decision
by the sixteenth of where they're going to school, and
they're probably a week or two behind school starting. So
I don't have that answer. I know they're trying to
figure that out, but for me, it would probably be
right before the summer. But that kind of stinks for
kids who are trying to go in and earn a position,
so they don't get a chance to actually they're only
get a chance to actually compete for spring. So I
do think that will put more pressures on the universities,
which means they're probably not going to do it. So
we're just gonna have to stick it out with this
time and deal with the consequences that affect the bowl
games and affect all the other things that come with
this business, no.
Speaker 5: Doubt about it.
Speaker 6: I think BYU and I know Utah they've benefited from
the portal. I want to say that they've it's been
more of a net positive.
Speaker 5: Than a net neutral net negative. How do you think?
Speaker 6: How would you grade that out b YU and Utah specifically,
has it been more of this new era of nil
transfer portal you know landscape colle football landscape that has
been net positive, net neutral, net negative for these two schools.
Speaker 8: I think that for sure net positive. And it's because
I mean the leadership at both schools has just been
you know, exceptional obviously with Kyle Whittingham and then and
then with Kawani being a younger coach. But these are
programs that are built on tradition, and they're built on family,
really they are, and so many so many families that
you know, sons and grandkids who's you know, their grandpa,
pe their their dad played there, and so they get
a lot of that, and then they build really exceptional
cultures where the kids do want to be there. They're
pretty aggressive with the LDS recruiting and the Utah based recruiting,
and in this area, kids who come to be why
you and Utah they come here because they want to
be a part of something a little bit different. And
both programs that do deliver do deliver something that's a
little bit different. And I think that comes from both
of the head coaches coming off of the Lavelle Edwards
tree and then really Kilani coming off of Kyle Whittingham's tree.
And I'm guessing that Morgan Scully will stay on that
Kyle Whittingham Lavell Edwards tree. So I think they'll continue
to benefit majorly because they're able to keep the core
guys that they want to keep, guys who really represent
their belief in the Court foundation, and then they're able
to add to that so they're able to keep a
pretty good locker room with the guys that they bring
in for through the portal.
Speaker 6: I was debating this yesterday and I want to get
your thoughts on. I'm going to give you the list
of transfer portal players that Bway has been able to
obtain via the transfer portal, and I'm gonna ask you this,
who your favorite transfer is? I think I know your
favorite transfer is, and who who the most impactful transfer
has Shinn? All right, so you got Pookaakua. Why does
Youver Washington Samson wide sever, Utah Kingsley saw at the
offensive tackle Oregon Jack Kelly linebacker Weaver, Eddie Hecker cornerback
Weaver State, Carson Ryan's tight end, Utah Andrew Gentry offensive tackle, Mechigan,
Aiden Robbins running back unlv Nice pick up, Keton Slova's
quarterback pit Justin Kirkland defensive lineman Oklahoma State, Tell Celiacna Edge,
Texas New c Tomwaypeo defensive line, Stanford Jackson Cravens d line,
Isaiah Vanya Edge, Chris Brooks running back, Darius Lasser, wide receiver,
kaeland Marrion wide receiver, Bear Bachmeyer quarterback, Tiger Bachmeyer, wide
receiver Caleb Hayes cornerback, Jacob Robinson, cornerback Crew Wakeley, safety,
k Judy Lalley cornerback, Houston Hamui fullback Will Farren kicker,
and then Sam vanderhar Punch.
Speaker 5: That's my list.
Speaker 6: Who's your favorite and who do you think has been
the most impactful at b YU.
Speaker 8: Well, there's no questioning my favorite is is Jacob Robinson,
and I feel like he was the he was was
the arguably the most impactful. But yeah, obviously Jack Kelly
has been majorly impactful. He's been probably the best backer
they've had since he transferred in. They have a great
back or corps, but Jack has been known as kind
of the the alpha of that group and that says
a lot playing next to Isaiah Glasker and the guys
that he has. I don't know if you have Max
Alford on there. Max Alferd transferred in this year as well,
But I would say Jacob Robinson. I mean a guy
was able to come in and play impactful minutes for
four years. I mean he was a four year starter.
So I think you have to give it to Jacob Robinson.
But then you're gonna have a pretty big, big argument
for young Bear Backfire who came in in one eleven
games his first year, so that's been majorly impactful and
took him to a championship game. So Bear has been great.
But if you look at the how much Jacob did
and how many snaps he played in the four years
since he transferred from Utah State, I think it has
to be him now.
Speaker 5: I think it's a really good take. We made that
argument as well. We know how difficult it.
Speaker 6: Is to recruit, retain develop cornerback play at BYU, and
that dude was nails from the beginning. He was tremendously
He played safety too for a game and picked off
like multiple passes. It's like he could have played he
played outside corner, he played nickel, he could play free safety,
and so the versatility of his impact and traditionally, to
your point, BYU, over the last thirty forty years, they've
been a linebacker school. I mean, Jack was phenomenal, right,
and he was super impactful, but you got a ton
of linebackers that you don't always have impactful corners.
Speaker 8: Without a doubt. I mean, and when you talk about impact,
I mean everything about playing on the defense side, particularly
in the back end. As you know, being one of
the best dbs that we've had is that they want
to take the ball away and so one of the
things you have to respect for Jacob. I can't remember
what his total interceptions were, but it must have been
close to eighteen or you know, so that's a lot
of takeaways. So I think that that the argument will
be made that Jacob Robinson is the king of the
back end when it comes to BYU decent the.
Speaker 5: Back Yeah, I like that. Take a lot. Give me
your thoughts.
Speaker 6: What type of acquisitions do you think b YU is
going to pick up this go around. Where do you
think they have needs? I think you know, tight end
is one that they need. I'm hoping that Walker Lyons
chooses b YU this go around.
Speaker 5: Coming out of the portal.
Speaker 6: But what do you think are some of the needs
that b YU may pick up in the portal this season?
Speaker 8: Yeah, I agree with you. I think that they will
be looking at a few different a few different positions. Obviously,
you have to look at identify what's going to happen
at number one and get that number one quarterback position
sign and then make sure you have the backups in
place that are needed at quarterback because it all starts
at quarterback. Do you deal with the tight end on
the offense side of the ball. You are losing a
very impactful receiver and Chase Roberts. Still, they probably want
to add one or two receivers to that room to
get a little bit more dynamic. Defensively, they seem to
be pretty solid. You'll probably see another DV added, and
then you're gonna continue always to be sureing up the
D line. I mean, they've got young D linemen, the
edges seem to be really strong. But I do think
they'll you know, always looking to add interior D line.
But the biggest thing is I really feel like they'll
add aggressively on the offensive side to give Bear more weapons.
And then obviously if you can the tight end two
are out there there. This is a very good tight
end class. Uh, what's going on? What's gonna happen in
the portal? So they'll definitely be looking to add more
depth and more explosion explosion at the tight end position.
And obviously Walker lines being in there, he has to
be the number one target for by U And you know,
for me, we'll see if they get him. And my my,
my gut tells me that they have a very very
good chance of getting him. So I'm gonna be watching closely.
Speaker 5: How would you describe Walker as a player? What is
he good? Ad?
Speaker 6: Who's a player? Comp forum and uh? And what do
you like your skill set?
Speaker 8: What I like about about Walker is is he's an
all He's a you know, with the new era of
college football and the way the game is played, you
have a flex guy, right, So guys like to have
a tight end that can flex out and go to work,
but also a guy who can be an inline guy
and and you know, and really put his hands on
people and block and short yard and position of situations
because it just makes him so much more dangerous as
a pass catcher than just being a flex wide out guy.
So if you can flex him out and still have
the ability to not change much on your offense, you
don't need to bring in a different type of player
where now you have a big body like Walker Lions
who can run and can box out a smaller nickel,
or he's a mismatch for a backer, it does cause
a lot of issues. So Walker is all around tight
end who can play in line and he can also
more importantly flex out and go to work. He's got
great top in speed, he's physical at the point of attack,
and more importantly, he sits in the locker room in
the culture. And that's one of the biggest things that
Buyu was always looking to do is bring in players
that are you know, obviously top end talents, but also
they come in and they they are able to act,
them make quickly to the culture of Utah and the
culture of bringing young university. So Walker has to be,
you know, their number one target offensively as far as
tight end, I mean, I just don't know if there
will be someone in the portal as intriguing as him.
Speaker 5: Yeah, he's uh. I don't know. Did you give me
a player comp on him? I mean he's uh.
Speaker 6: I mean he's interesting, right, Like his his skill set,
I think, you know, I think he's around six four,
I think two forty. But he's got a really long wingspace,
got really long arms.
Speaker 5: Uh.
Speaker 6: And it seems like he can be an inline tight end,
he can be a flex tight end. You can split
him out in isolated situations towards the boundary and get
some nice, nice advantageous matchups versus either a linebacker or
a safety.
Speaker 5: But do you have a player comp form that you like.
Speaker 8: You know, he does remind me of the boy that
the Youths had a couple of years ago who now
plays for the Bills.
Speaker 5: He dealt Kinkaid.
Speaker 8: Yeah, yeah, he can be a Kincaid type. And you know,
a lot of people will tell me I'm going too far.
Obviously Kinkaid is very, very accomplished, but I think he
can be that type of player where Dalton was just
you know, there wasn't anything you couldn't ask him to
do and that so when you talk about about about Walker,
the question is what can't he do And there's not
a lot that he can't do. Now, what he hasn't
done is had at been as productive as Dulton kit
Kate was at the University of Utah. So time will tell.
But as far as he's just an all around really
strong player who can do everything you would ask him
to do.
Speaker 6: Well for those individuals that are listening today on this
beautiful Saturday edition of Cougar Sports Special Edition live from
our Royal Army warehouse, having a warehouse deal going on
right now, if they're looking to get recruited, looking to
get developed, right especially getting into the off season, these
high school football players, How can they reach you, how
can they develop at a higher level with you?
Speaker 8: Well, Tuesday night, actually from five thirty to eight thirty,
we will be at Designons indoor facility bringing in kids
that we are going to work out for our off
season training where we do seven on seven, but we
also train multiple times a week where I'm able to
get eyes on my kids and I'm able to film
them quite a bit and send it directly to coaches
and educate these families. But also you can follow me
on Twitter with Alpha Recruit at Alpha Recruits fifteen. Our
website is Alpha recruits dot com. Our Instagram is Alpha Recruits,
so you can find us through every single social media platform.
But also you can bring your kids out and let
them come show us what they're all about on Tuesday night,
so we can get in all a full off season
with them, really focusing in on the technical side of
playing this game and the speed development. We spend a
lot of time on that because it has never been
ever in the history of college football harder to get
a high school kid recruited. It's very, very, very hard.
It takes a lot of work, it takes a lot
of understanding, and it takes a very very high skill
set and so you have to be working at it
as much as you possibly can. And we have a
track record of developing exceptional players. We have them all
around the country, and we have them, you know, obviously
really being successful in the state of Utah. Some of
the players that we're discussing we've worked with personally, from
from Walker Lyons to Carson Ryan, to smith Snowdon to
the list goes on and on and on to Jacob Robinson.
So we have a track record of helping tops kids
who really have big time goals and dreams actually accomplish them.
So if you have a son that has those type
of goals and dreams, if you'll give us a chance
to work with them, we will be able to benefit
them not on the short term, but most importantly long
term because you work with them through their career and
college and give them good guidance and help them with
their financial piece of the business. So there's nothing we're
not doing now. It's a lot of fun, a lot
of stress, but very rewarding.
Speaker 6: Well, I got a stat for you here before I
let you go, and you can give this over to
our boys, Jacob Robinson. So he's tenth all time in
I and t's and BWA football history. It kind of
leans into what we were talking about, and that's like
those first few questions about biggest biggest impact from a
transfer portal play. Tenth all time in BWA football history.
In I and T's, he's eleventh all time in past
breakups at twenty one, he's eightieth all time and tackles right,
the corners don't get as many tackles available to them,
et cetera.
Speaker 5: But Matt pretty pretty impressive, man.
Speaker 6: He's essentially top ten and PDUs and I n t's
and BWIE football history.
Speaker 8: Yeah, I mean, he did a lot of great things.
And and the other thing is people forget about his ribility.
I mean, I mean, if you look at how many
games he played, I mean, you know, I mean, anyone
who plays as many snaps as he plays and doesn't
really miss games realizes that he's very durable and tough,
that he was playing through, you know, a lot of
injury and was still able to be super effective. So
I will pass that on. We need to get him
on talking with you guys so you can see what
he's doing. You know, he's with the Niners. Yeah he
had an injury, really yeah, first major injury. But he
is with the Niners on the i R. They love
him quite a bit, and I think he's gonna have
a very good NFL career.
Speaker 6: Big Fanny, Jacob Robinson and I can't wait to see
what we can do in the NFL. Will We appreciate
you loving and just appreciate your your time and insight,
great content, great commentary.
Speaker 5: Thanks so much for joining us today.
Speaker 8: Thank you, Ben, and good luck today. I hope the
Truger fans get all the best products in the world,
get to the warehouse.
Speaker 5: I'll say this much. Will you look so?
Speaker 6: You look so much better in royal blue than you
do on red. I mean, I like people see you
in public.
Speaker 5: Man, I'll get texts, you know, when you're at high
school football games and like, uh, Will's and red, and
I might like, he looks like he looks dumb, he
looks horrible in that red. Now I'll tell you what
like look he looks.
Speaker 6: So you're your your your skin complexion, your your your
body type, you know everything.
Speaker 5: You look so much better royal blue. Don't even get
it twisted. Don't lie to me. I already know the truth.
Speaker 8: Listen. You know, at the end of the day, you
have a young you have some young tykes running around
your school, your house right now, and and so your partner,
and you know, it's really easy to put on things.
I used to wear a lot of too with my daughter,
and so people can tell me I look better in
Royal blue, but where my kids are and support them.
But you know, I'm not going to argue that. I'm
not going to argue that. You know, I am comfortable blue,
but I'm comfortable on the red and the black and
the whine. I'll make it all work.
Speaker 6: You look good all the time, buddy, Appreciate you, Love you,
Thanks for hopping on today.
Speaker 8: Will you guys have a great day. You guys do
great work.
Speaker 5: Keep it up, hey man, appreciate you.
Speaker 6: Will Will Snowden Alpha recruits, contact him, get ahold of him.
If you're looking to get developed, to get recruited, nobody
does it better than Will Snowden. Thoughts commentary follow up,
Ronald the three Man Weaver. You're tuning into that interview
with Will Snowden live here by the way, we're live
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Snowden interview, Ronnie.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I think the biggest thing that the takeaway was,
and I know a little bit about when I've had
the chance to develop a strong relationship. But my goodness,
Ben didn't know he negotiated that many contracts for people,
so Stan busy, so you know, shout out to him,
grace to him, My goodness here, Will, I did not
know you were locking it down like that.
Speaker 4: But I mean advocating for the student athletes.
Speaker 1: Man.
Speaker 3: You know, he's worked with the likes of you know,
Walker Lyons, Carson, Ryan Jacob Robinson obviously, and look, I
agree with the take you know, I like Jack and
what he's done, but Jake Jacob Robinson is probably the
well and it's been correct me wrong. I didn't know
what his star rating is, but was at Utah State.
No one ever thought he would be a guy that
could play at the next level. And look, and We'll
just said you gotta get him on. So maybe once
in the next two or three weeks and once playoffs
are over and things, and depending on that, we need
to get Jacob Robinson on the show.
Speaker 4: But that's probably one of the best.
Speaker 3: I mean, look, if you if you were gonna continue
to bring a high level cornerback talent, guys from across
the world, East Coast, from Texas, from California, it's gonna
point to Jay rob being in the league from a
guy that you know came in and you know what
he can make of it and then just took a
tremendous leap and jump in And it's all because of
you know, will and working with that. I remember when
Jacob came in, he had the two interceptions against Georgia Southern,
remember that back on the Tyler Erragy days, And I said,
could he you know, skyrocket and then he just took
off and shot at the j Rob man. Look, it's
gonna be tough to fill those shoes. But I will
say this, whoever wears the number zero at BYU on
the defensive side since Jacob has been making play so
Schmev has done it and Jacob did it, so it
seems like that number zero on the defensive side is
the way to do it. But no, Ben I just
think that that's the biggest thing that I took away
as j Rob is probably the best transfer to come
in through BYU one of the best defensive players. You
got a multitude of other people you can name and
then look if the guys working with Will. I always
want to ask Will this, but I don't. But I
have the conversation with you. It's still be nice. You say,
Will doesn't look good in red? You don't look good?
Speaker 4: Can I Can I tell you this?
Speaker 3: Neither of the smith Snowden would love to see him
in blue. You know, I know you're laughing at that.
None of the Snoded family looks good in red. They
all sho wear blue. So that's kind of my joke
with that, you know. But you know you have wishes
that don't come true. I put that wish in the
Santa multiple times and he hasn't responded yet.
Speaker 5: So, yeah, I don't know if that's gonna happen. You
always hope, you pray you could do it, but.
Speaker 4: I've sworn too much over the airway. Santa said, no, Yeah.
Speaker 5: I don't think. So, I don't think it's gonna happen.
Not gonna happen.
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