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Speaker 2: It's time for Cougar Sports on three nine ninety three,

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part of Utah's ESPN Radio network. Here's your host, Ben Crittle.

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Speaker 3: Welcome into Cooper Sports here on one O, three nine

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and ninety eighty three ESPN. The Fan Ronald three man,

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we were here holding it down a little bit for

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Speaker 4: We're having some technical difficulties that we're trying to get

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Speaker 3: We live today from the Royal Army where House Sale.

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Guys said yesterday on the show know a little bit

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of a last minute thing. But today Saturday, December twenty

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from ten am all the way till four pm, are

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Speaker 3: Here, like I said, ten am and a four pm

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a great dub for BYU Will recap that when being

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gets connected, we'll get into the postgame sound BYU was

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victorious last night without a star Kita who was due

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to illness.

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Speaker 4: Hopefully he's able to get it.

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Speaker 3: Kevin Young says, there's just a bug going around. There's

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just a bug going around, and look that's just honestly

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it said. Time of the season, the holidays, the weather's changing,

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people get a little bit sick. So you hope that

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everyone is able to stay healthy. Wishing everybody a little

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merry Christmas as we get closer. Christmas is next Thursday,

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so I mean, I know we'll discuss this more next week,

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but I want to know, like what your Christmas traditions are,

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Speaker 3: There was too much Jesus from my grandmother when we

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both now now to have my own family. So I'm

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always intrigued to know by everybody. So without further dud.

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Speaker 6: The fans is gonna be here for the next four

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hours or so giving you content, Cougar sports content you

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can't get anywhere else. Breaking down the BYU men's basketball

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win last night at the Marriott Center. We're gonna get

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Why don't we fire up ESPN the fans starting lineup

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and I can introduce you to my co host on

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this wonderful Saturday special edition of Cougar Sports here.

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Speaker 5: On your Utah ESPN Radio network. He was down at.

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Speaker 6: The Marriott Center last night covering this BYU men's basketball

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teams they dominated.

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Speaker 5: I believe Christian. Let's welcome to Ronald the three man.

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We were what's up.

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Speaker 3: Ronnie whatep? I was down there. I did see a

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great game, and look I said it on Twitter, on

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my page, and I'll sit on the areas of booking.

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Speaker 4: AJ.

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Speaker 3: Debond says the number one draft pick in the twenty

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twenty six th YA draft. Kyle Collinsworth made TNT with

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this tweet. We need to get him on the show,

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and I agree with him. If you don't say AJ

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is number one and number two, Not only do I

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Speaker 4: You should never speak over about basketball again.

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Speaker 3: That dude is ridiculous to put back down Colonney's reaction.

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we're supposed to be objective, been in the media, everyone

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in front of me on prey and if they try

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to lie, I will call them out on this airway. Myself,

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I was next to Sean Walker, Jake Hatch, the BAU

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social media. We all like we reacted because it was

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Speaker 3: I was like, what did I just witness like we

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the most ridiculous putback gunk I've seen in college basketball

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Speaker 4: I could not believe it. Everyone was genuinely shocked.

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Speaker 3: Mihaiala Baskovich's reaction, Kalanie's reaction, I mean, Brian Santiaga. I

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a genuine moment of pure, you know, excellence. So I

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Speaker 6: Well, first and foremost, it was an amazing game. It

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was a dominant game for this BA basketball team. But

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we know who the real MVP is of this squad

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right now, and he's gonna lead to the glory, to

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victory even though there are three season ending injuries on

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the roster, something that I don't think. I don't know

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if any BA basketball team has ever faced and I

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his career. Like, I mean, you figure three cities and

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ending injuries when you're saying that it's the football team,

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not the basketball team. So it's pretty crazy to see

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still dominant, still depth and ballin from the entirety of

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the team, despite three season ending injuries from individuals that

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high level contributors. In The third to be determined, but

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of an idea who that third is going to be.

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Speaker 5: But Aj is the real deal.

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Speaker 6: And it still blows my mind that over like a

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year and a half ago, we started hearing rumblings that

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Aj Debonsa was highly interested in BYU and that b

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YU had a chance that Byu was in his top five,

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top six, that Ace de Bonsa, his father said to him, Look,

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a long hard look at Brigham Young University and what

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they're doing, what they're trying to build, what they're trying

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to create down there, a true MBA pipeline to be

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what you remember k Y at his press conference, do

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you remember Ronald the three man Weaver what his words were?

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that he said BYU provo capitol p r oh lowercase

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vo would become a professional pipeline to the National Basketball Association,

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the Jerry West logo, the league led by goats like

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Lebron the real Goat, MJ. Kobe, Kareem, all of the greatness, Wilt, Distilled,

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Speaker 5: That is what we're creating in provo. You gotta be

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Speaker 6: And that's what I think about when I see AJ

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ballin and dropping thirty and having a full fledged stat

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line of playmaking and distribution and rebounding doing it all

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the sequences of his playmaking ability, his ability to dribble, drive, penetrate, spin,

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scoop score, hang, just get his shot, pump fake. He

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a young man. The shots he's getting, okay, obviously he's

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a phenomenal athlete.

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Speaker 5: He's a freak.

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Speaker 6: But he's creating these beautifully executed shots that will work

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in the NBA. They're gonna work in the NBA versus taller, longer, faster, stronger,

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more polished defenders. And that's what gets you excited as well,

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because you're seeing just greatness before your eyes. You're never

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gonna see this again. I don't know if you're ever

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in this coaching staff. But you're most likely never gonna

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see an Aj to Bonsa again because he is not

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Speaker 5: Star in the NBA.

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at worst. That's at worst. At best, he'll become the

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Ronald the three man weaver. AJ could end up becoming

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a BYU alum. Obviously in the NBA, we've had to

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a certain degree. In the NFL, Steve Young, you can

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Speaker 5: I'm like, you guys aren't from San Francisco, Like yeah,

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Speaker 6: Now Now we're gonna have wherever AJ goes, We're we

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a lot of Utah jazz, but we are going to

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Speaker 5: That's crazy to me. Ronald the three man Weaver. It's

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Speaker 6: It's a singular time for BYU athletics and BYU basketball.

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he could have switched to football and played for the

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Speaker 4: And I'm from Chicago and I.

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Speaker 3: Would root for that man, even though I even though

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we hate the cheese heads. You just as wherever AJ goes,

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it's like jeg Or, it will always be a connection

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you always have. And this is where bau Brand becomes nationally. Ben,

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with me or other people members of the church and

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have senior yegor playing person they gone down. So that

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just lets you know the connection of b YU and

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nationally you know the brand of members of the church,

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of how people are still able to be in tune

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with BYU athletics, and I think that's phenomenal.

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Speaker 4: So Age is gonna have that opportunity.

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Speaker 3: But yes, Ben, you're right, we are never going to

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see and when I say never, I think this high

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level of a talent that could be the face of

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league and we could be wrong about that, but I

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don't know if we're really ever gonna see this good play.

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I think you could see a number of future number

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one overall Kevin Young could get because anything's possible. Under

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I don't think this type of guy that can have

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that level of playmaking. Before the half is over, he's driving,

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wants to take the pull up, wants to force it.

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he is chooses to kick it to Mohilo, and then

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Mihilo knocks down to three. Shout out to us are

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and talking about Mohaloy had a phenomenal game. We'll hear

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it from the postgame momentarily to tease it. But Kevin

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Young talked about his three blocks. Mahalo was really committed

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to the defensive side of the ball. But AJ's playmaking

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is so underrated. Greg Ribella put out a stat and

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it's your rebounds plus your turnovers, plus your assist everything,

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and his entire efficiency bend was a plus thirty eight.

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Speaker 4: That's ridiculous. Like that is that that's insane?

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Speaker 3: Like and you guys that are listening, what I mean

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by that is like when you're playing in a basketball game,

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it's the entire thing. It's it's the passes that you make,

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it's the number of rebounds to points, it'sist how you screen,

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the court. And last night, everything that he did from

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top to bottom, from defending.

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Speaker 4: Guys to forcing turnovers to drawing fouls was a plus thirty.

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Speaker 3: You don't get that in college basketball yet alone, even

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Speaker 4: That is a hard thing to do. Like that type

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of performance been.

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Speaker 3: I don't want this to come off as hyperfoctly, but

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that is a.

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Speaker 4: All time college basketball performance.

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Speaker 3: I know it's ambling Christian, but like they've been there

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six in the country and their free throw to turnover

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march and how they get up on you enforce people

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like they're really good in doing that. So that was

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a good basketball team they played last night, and they

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made it difficult for bou At Thomas dot Kiba, who's

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dealing with, you know, with an illness and the bug

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going around. But to me, aj look that said Kevin

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Durant lebron type of performance in the NBA in a

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game seven of a you know, an NBA Finals to

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show up the way he did to ball out like

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he had twenty six men and said not only I

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was like, he might go for forty. And it was

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I think six or seven minutes. Level said he legit

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might be able to get forty. And I was like,

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I had to start thinking, Ben, we had to start

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going through the game notes. When was the last time

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a BOU basketball player dropped forty? And he's the first

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player been want to give a lot of level. We

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need to put this out on your Twitter. He is

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the first I think BAU player to score six or

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seven twenty point games since Jimmerferd Debt.

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Speaker 4: This is twenty eleven.

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Speaker 3: It's been over fourteen years, been since you've had a

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player that's been able to be this dominant offensively.

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Speaker 5: It's insane, truly it is.

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Speaker 6: Debota scored a career high thirty five, number ten BYU

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dominates in the second half. Their second half team, their

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second half team, and I just want to be a

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first half team. I had to say, I want to

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be a holistic team. I want to be a full

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fledged basketball team, because maybe then we would have covered

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Maybe then we would have you know it had AJ

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would have had forty, Yeah, he would have forty plush

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maybe the best stat line in college basketball this year,

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and that's what I wanted, That's what I needed. I

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will comment here before we get into some of the

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storylines that came out of this game and then get

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Speaker 5: Sound Aj is a freak athlete. We know that.

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Speaker 6: And the windmill put back dunk was phenomenal. I mean,

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just one of the It's the best dunk in Blu

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basketball history. It's the best put back at least in

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bau basketball history. Okay, I do think there is an

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element of a dunk that, like, I value dunks differently

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for the form and fashion which they're executed. Put back

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dunks are one thing, especially when they're over the top

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of a human. Dunking over the top of someone off

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the bounce, to me is always better, right, So, like

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I always say, like if it's off the bounce and

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you dunk somebody dunk over somebody, that's like, that's like

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the creme de la creme. Your transition dunks when it's

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wide open, like, it's great. It's more like a slam

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dunk contest than anything because you're in transition. I probably

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put that down on the scale. And Ronald I want

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your opinion on this as well. So, like my favorite

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dunks are off the bounce, over the top with somebody.

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of somebody. Third favorite is you know, like those transition

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dunks that that are high flying and you know, creative

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in nature of the windmills, the three sixties, et cetera.

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Speaker 5: Would you grate them out similarly?

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Speaker 6: Like for you when you get hyped, like if you're

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gonna grate out the best dunks and be what you

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basketball history?

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Speaker 5: Is that how you witch sequence the sequence that.

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Speaker 4: Yes, if you catch a body, that's the first one.

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Speaker 3: Put backs would be the second, you know, and then

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the third obviously you get one, you know, and obviously

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first and off the bounce, and then the third one

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if you you know, if you get a lob and

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catch it over someone, that's kind of how I rank it, right,

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because that's how it has to be.

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Speaker 4: Man, that's what you get hyped on.

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Speaker 3: And look, it might be one B and maybe we

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need to put this out of your Twitter and ask

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and you might already done. So hey, is this the

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best basketball best dunk billie basketball history? Because here's the

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one that here's the one that I always think about, Ben,

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and I know you would like this. I go back

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to the Delta Center, and this is why I think

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this one's still better. It's a rival, Yoie. Child's is great,

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and he caught two bodies. He came down the lane

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and he baptized two people on a dunk. And I

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was sitting at home. Oh yeah, you know, I was

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sitting at home. And we ran around the living room

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for like fifty minutes and we just kept rewinding.

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Speaker 4: So I think the agent wanted to think it.

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Speaker 3: If you want to say one be I won't argue,

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but they only Child's one because it was a robbery.

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Speaker 5: Again, yeah, against the one mess dunk.

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Speaker 4: That might be the best dunk in BYU history. I think.

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Speaker 6: I think so, too like, And I'll put it out

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there for Cougar fans and chime in on.

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Speaker 5: Like to me, the only one still like.

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Speaker 6: Holds a very special place in my heart because he

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caught bodies and he was kind of off the balanced

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type of deal. So I love that. I love that take.

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Let's let's delve into this a little bit. Applein Christian

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they're an okay team, They're not a horrible team. They're

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an Okay team, they're seven to five. They came into

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seven and four. This was a great game, a nice

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warm up, you know, leading into Big twelve. Play BYU

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was slow in the first half and there.

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Speaker 5: Was turnovers goalore.

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Speaker 6: Once again, we have to figure out, like what's going

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on in the first half. Turnovers were a factor throughout,

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with the teams combining for thirty four turnovers. BYU did

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not take the lead until eight point fifteen remained in

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the first half. After taking a six point lead into halftime,

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the Cougar's got twenty one second half points from de

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Bonsa alongside a sixty five percent shooting percentage to extend

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their advantage.

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Speaker 5: This is what Kay had to say postgame. They're the

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sixth best.

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Speaker 6: In the country on free throw turnover rates. I was

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disappointed because everything that we did, they were. Everything we

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said they were going to do, they did, and we

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took the bait in the first ten minutes of the game.

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In the second ten minutes of the game, I thought

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we had better ball toughness.

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Speaker 5: But it was good. Ioways States going to do the

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same thing.

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Speaker 6: Houston is going to do the same thing, so our

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guys got used to playing against that type of pressure.

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Speaker 5: You have to give them all the credit. They were

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good with that.

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Speaker 6: The Bonsa finished, as I mentioned, with thirty five points

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out of twelve shooting to go along with six rebounds, forces,

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two steals, one block, and a partridge in a pair three. Additionally,

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de Bonsa went seventeen of twenty from the free throw line,

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setting program freshman records for both makes and attempts to

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Bonsa has now scored twenty or more points in five

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straight games, becoming the first Cougar to do such since

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Jim for Debt.

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Speaker 5: Nothing but debt Net.

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Speaker 6: Teach me how to jimmer Ajata, Bonsas said, and he

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overcame the Gimmer.

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Speaker 5: He surpassed the Gimmer.

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Speaker 6: Thus far, it's gonna be tough to surpass Jimmermania, but

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maybe it can happen in March Madness this year, Richie

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Saunders reached the twenty plateau for the sixth time this

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season and the twenty first time of his career with

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his twenty one points on six of ten shooting. The Riverton,

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Utah product added three rebounds, three assists, three steals, one

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block to his statue. What a nice healthy stat line

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from Ritchie the tot King.

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Speaker 5: I love tots. I'm gonna go eat some tots later. Today.

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Speaker 6: The Cougars outshot the Wildcats fifty nine point five percent

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from the field to forty point seven percent, out rebounded

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thirty to twenty six, out block nine to zero, out

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assisted fifteen to fourteen, and outstoles twelve to seven. You

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know what stat I love from this game, it's the

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out block nine to zero.

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Speaker 5: Because we didn't have love that sat yet, you know.

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Speaker 6: What I mean, Like you figure like ah Man Cable's out,

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we were not gonna have as many blocks. Now everyone's

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stepped up. Everyone was contesting shots on the perimeter.

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Speaker 5: It seam.

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Speaker 6: And then also I thought Mahilo did a nice job

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being a five man. We need Mihilo to be the

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bucketfitch that we signed him to be, and we're starting

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to see a little bit more.

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Speaker 5: Progress with Mahilo. What do you make of it, Ronald

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and three man Weaver?

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Speaker 3: Yeah, look uh and this is this more schematic thing,

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Ben right, And I know that this is gonna be difficult,

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but it's really difficult for a high low in KEBA

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to play on the court at the same time because

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Mihilo's a true stretch five and the way he's able

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to shoot the basketball, and Kaiba it just being a

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paint presence look, and that's that's the tough part, right.

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But you saw in this game, excuse me with Kiva

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being out what Mihilo was able to do. The basketball

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player we've been saying it, you know, just has to

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step up and do the role. And we're gonna get

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to this sound here momentarily. But Kevin Young debated, you

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know about well, we we thought about how do we

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play three centers.

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Speaker 4: It was it was difficult.

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Speaker 3: You could argue that Mihilo has already battle tested for

472
00:21:25,519 --> 00:21:28,039
us at the five as a stretch five. So I

473
00:21:28,079 --> 00:21:30,000
love what I saw from Mihialo and you mentioned it

474
00:21:30,720 --> 00:21:33,039
out blocking Ableine Christian, I do, I do want to

475
00:21:33,079 --> 00:21:35,240
give some grace, you know, to by you and Kevin

476
00:21:35,240 --> 00:21:38,359
Young mentioned it phenomenal job. But the way Abilene Christian

477
00:21:38,400 --> 00:21:40,759
was playing defense, I know, bah you started off slow

478
00:21:40,799 --> 00:21:42,920
a little bit. And AJ will mention it here in

479
00:21:42,920 --> 00:21:45,599
the post game two as well. But it reminded me

480
00:21:45,640 --> 00:21:47,759
of Houston, Iowa State. I was sitting there and I

481
00:21:47,799 --> 00:21:49,960
turned next to Sean Walker and I said, doesn't this

482
00:21:50,039 --> 00:21:52,759
remind you just of Iowa State and Houston and other

483
00:21:52,839 --> 00:21:55,720
teams and the Big twelve. UCF He's like one hundred percent.

484
00:21:55,839 --> 00:21:58,160
He's like this team, like this team that plays that

485
00:21:58,240 --> 00:22:00,240
exact style. He was like, the pressure that they have

486
00:22:00,599 --> 00:22:03,440
on ball, getting passing lanes, hands been what they saw

487
00:22:03,480 --> 00:22:06,160
last night is exactly what they're gonna see in a

488
00:22:06,200 --> 00:22:08,599
few weeks in the Big Twelve. So I thought this

489
00:22:08,799 --> 00:22:11,119
was a really good game. I know that that they

490
00:22:11,160 --> 00:22:12,720
didn't start the way they wanted to, but you gotta

491
00:22:12,720 --> 00:22:15,680
give Abalene Christian credit that they were really forcing bau

492
00:22:15,720 --> 00:22:18,200
to take some tough shots and doing that. But look,

493
00:22:18,599 --> 00:22:21,079
if you thought this game was gonna be your toughest game,

494
00:22:21,119 --> 00:22:24,319
then you're very confused, because Arizona's gonna be tough. This

495
00:22:24,480 --> 00:22:26,839
Big Twelve Conference is no joke. But I'm glad that

496
00:22:26,880 --> 00:22:28,359
they got this test out of the way to see

497
00:22:28,359 --> 00:22:30,880
that physicality and experience that, and I think they'll be

498
00:22:30,920 --> 00:22:33,240
ready to go. But the defense was phenomenal last night,

499
00:22:33,480 --> 00:22:34,799
being committed to the boards.

500
00:22:35,000 --> 00:22:36,599
Speaker 4: But look, I think we all have to give credit.

501
00:22:36,640 --> 00:22:36,799
Speaker 5: Now.

502
00:22:37,039 --> 00:22:41,799
Speaker 3: Kibakida is the biggest presence in the center, and he

503
00:22:42,119 --> 00:22:43,799
can argue as one of the heart beats of this team.

504
00:22:43,839 --> 00:22:46,599
Been not having him in the game and not having

505
00:22:46,680 --> 00:22:48,799
him down there. You saw how the game was affected,

506
00:22:49,359 --> 00:22:52,720
not necessarily maybe shot blocking, but rebounding his second chance points.

507
00:22:53,039 --> 00:22:55,079
So gotta get him healthy, got to get him back

508
00:22:55,079 --> 00:22:57,160
once he's over the illness. But I think that showed

509
00:22:57,200 --> 00:22:59,599
me a lot last night that you know, number thirteen

510
00:23:00,079 --> 00:23:02,960
had her so much to this team and interviewing Chris

511
00:23:03,000 --> 00:23:04,519
Burgess or you know early last week.

512
00:23:04,680 --> 00:23:05,519
Speaker 4: Bau needs k.

513
00:23:05,599 --> 00:23:08,359
Speaker 3: Bakada, you know, to get over the illness because he's

514
00:23:08,400 --> 00:23:10,039
gonna have a big impact. He's a fourth best player

515
00:23:10,039 --> 00:23:11,920
on this team. Man, he can't have your fourth best

516
00:23:11,960 --> 00:23:14,200
player being out due to illness. But he'll be back,

517
00:23:14,279 --> 00:23:15,920
no problem, I think shortly.

518
00:23:16,000 --> 00:23:18,200
Speaker 5: Boom Shaka laka. Why don't we get to the sound?

519
00:23:18,400 --> 00:23:22,759
Speaker 6: Post game sound is by you triumph over the Abilene

520
00:23:22,880 --> 00:23:25,680
Christian crew that came in the Wildcats. It was a

521
00:23:25,720 --> 00:23:29,000
little cougar on cougar action and it was it was dicey,

522
00:23:29,119 --> 00:23:30,480
It was a little bit uh.

523
00:23:31,079 --> 00:23:33,240
Speaker 5: It was a little bit scary that first halfter, like

524
00:23:33,279 --> 00:23:34,640
what the world is going on?

525
00:23:35,400 --> 00:23:39,240
Speaker 6: This team needs to figure out their first half game plans.

526
00:23:39,319 --> 00:23:42,079
The second half looks tremendous, though they ended up getting

527
00:23:42,079 --> 00:23:45,440
a convincing victory, not covering No. Eighty five to sixty

528
00:23:45,559 --> 00:23:47,160
seven I had picked.

529
00:23:47,160 --> 00:23:49,119
Speaker 5: I think I thought they would get the hundred spot.

530
00:23:49,240 --> 00:23:52,000
Speaker 6: I think that I thought that they would eclipse the hundred,

531
00:23:52,079 --> 00:23:56,960
but they did not, unfortunately, not enough firepower versus the

532
00:23:56,960 --> 00:24:00,960
Abilene Christian Wildcats. But the post game who did we

533
00:24:01,000 --> 00:24:03,000
interview in post gamp? K? Why is kay Why?

534
00:24:03,079 --> 00:24:03,359
Speaker 5: First?

535
00:24:03,440 --> 00:24:05,480
Speaker 3: Yes, we got Kay Why and then after Kevin yone.

536
00:24:05,279 --> 00:24:07,279
Speaker 4: Will do a j De bonson Richie Saunders.

537
00:24:07,400 --> 00:24:10,359
Speaker 5: All right, let's tune in K why Kevin Yong? Post

538
00:24:10,359 --> 00:24:12,160
game question?

539
00:24:13,400 --> 00:24:15,279
Speaker 4: First off, what was the reaction to AJ stunk?

540
00:24:15,359 --> 00:24:17,599
Speaker 1: Have you ever seen anything like that before? I mean,

541
00:24:17,640 --> 00:24:19,000
I'll be honest, I'm pretty.

542
00:24:18,720 --> 00:24:21,960
Speaker 7: Stoic over there when like cool stuff happens just because

543
00:24:22,160 --> 00:24:23,920
you're thinking about the next play. And I feel like

544
00:24:23,920 --> 00:24:25,720
I've seen a lot of plays in my life, but

545
00:24:26,160 --> 00:24:27,200
I did react.

546
00:24:26,920 --> 00:24:27,279
Speaker 5: To that one.

547
00:24:27,319 --> 00:24:28,000
Speaker 1: That was insane.

548
00:24:28,079 --> 00:24:30,119
Speaker 7: That was I can't wait to watch it on a film.

549
00:24:30,119 --> 00:24:33,400
But what a gifted player, man, that was unbelievable.

550
00:24:33,880 --> 00:24:34,599
Speaker 5: You ever seen a.

551
00:24:34,640 --> 00:24:37,079
Speaker 8: Guy get thirty five points on twelve shots.

552
00:24:40,480 --> 00:24:43,400
Speaker 7: I don't want to say too much about what I

553
00:24:43,440 --> 00:24:45,599
really want to say about the officiating even though we

554
00:24:45,640 --> 00:24:46,960
shot forty free throws.

555
00:24:48,680 --> 00:24:51,119
Speaker 1: That's how that team plays. You know, they're super aggressive.

556
00:24:51,200 --> 00:24:53,680
Speaker 7: They foul a lot, and you know they're a hard

557
00:24:53,680 --> 00:24:56,880
team to play against because of it. But you know,

558
00:24:56,960 --> 00:25:00,200
AJ's smart player, you know, he he understood what they

559
00:25:00,200 --> 00:25:02,039
were doing and he was doing a good job of

560
00:25:02,519 --> 00:25:03,599
using that against them.

561
00:25:03,640 --> 00:25:05,559
Speaker 1: And that was impressive.

562
00:25:05,799 --> 00:25:06,000
Speaker 5: Kay.

563
00:25:06,039 --> 00:25:08,480
Speaker 3: How how unique is that for a guy to get

564
00:25:08,559 --> 00:25:10,039
twenty free throw a tens in the game?

565
00:25:10,039 --> 00:25:13,240
Speaker 1: Ian not no, not anyone can do it? No? Uh?

566
00:25:13,319 --> 00:25:15,400
Speaker 7: Uh you know r Richie got eight. You know, so

567
00:25:15,480 --> 00:25:17,279
he wasn't quite up there. But I thought he started

568
00:25:17,319 --> 00:25:19,799
figuring out too. But but again, it like that's one

569
00:25:19,799 --> 00:25:22,960
of the th great things about Aj is his intelligence

570
00:25:23,039 --> 00:25:25,640
for the game. You know, they he figured out real

571
00:25:25,759 --> 00:25:27,359
quick what what what it was gonna.

572
00:25:27,160 --> 00:25:28,000
Speaker 1: Be all night?

573
00:25:28,079 --> 00:25:30,839
Speaker 7: And you know, I, like I said, you know, I

574
00:25:30,839 --> 00:25:32,440
I thought he could have got to the foul line

575
00:25:32,480 --> 00:25:34,960
even more just because of uh, you know, I guess

576
00:25:35,000 --> 00:25:38,200
you can't call every foul. He had that nice stretch,

577
00:25:38,359 --> 00:25:40,200
uh in the first half on the full court press

578
00:25:40,200 --> 00:25:41,759
where he forced back back turnovers.

579
00:25:41,920 --> 00:25:43,920
Speaker 1: Which what do you make of his defensive performance in

580
00:25:43,960 --> 00:25:44,279
this game?

581
00:25:44,720 --> 00:25:46,759
Speaker 7: Yeah, I mean he's you know, like as much as

582
00:25:46,799 --> 00:25:49,000
I I given them credit, as they deserve a lot

583
00:25:49,000 --> 00:25:50,720
because they're a good defensive team.

584
00:25:50,759 --> 00:25:52,240
Speaker 1: They're grimmy and they turn you over.

585
00:25:53,079 --> 00:25:56,640
Speaker 7: And I mean that complimentary way about Our defense was

586
00:25:56,880 --> 00:25:58,920
just as grimy, honestly.

587
00:26:00,279 --> 00:26:01,200
Speaker 1: Now, we pulled off some.

588
00:26:01,200 --> 00:26:02,839
Speaker 7: Of the pressure, cause I thought they were they were

589
00:26:02,839 --> 00:26:04,599
breaking it at after a certain point.

590
00:26:04,640 --> 00:26:07,680
Speaker 1: But you know, it's it's tough with AJ and move

591
00:26:07,759 --> 00:26:08,759
up at the front of that thing.

592
00:26:08,799 --> 00:26:10,799
Speaker 7: There's a lot of length and a lot of athleticism

593
00:26:10,880 --> 00:26:11,160
up there.

594
00:26:11,200 --> 00:26:12,559
Speaker 1: So it's, uh, it's impressive.

595
00:26:12,720 --> 00:26:14,559
Speaker 4: What are your thoughts on the turnovers tonight? What do

596
00:26:14,559 --> 00:26:16,160
you think led to maybe some of the slump.

597
00:26:17,000 --> 00:26:18,920
Speaker 7: Well, they they they turned the s. They they they're

598
00:26:18,960 --> 00:26:21,279
free throw turnover rates to six best in the country.

599
00:26:21,279 --> 00:26:24,400
So that's what they do. And so I was disappointed cause,

600
00:26:24,519 --> 00:26:26,200
you know, everything that we said they were gonna do,

601
00:26:26,240 --> 00:26:27,680
they did, and we took debit.

602
00:26:27,440 --> 00:26:28,839
Speaker 1: In the first ten minutes of the game.

603
00:26:29,079 --> 00:26:31,160
Speaker 7: Second ten minutes of the game, I thought we had

604
00:26:31,240 --> 00:26:32,519
much better ball toughness.

605
00:26:32,759 --> 00:26:33,319
Speaker 1: But it was good.

606
00:26:33,359 --> 00:26:33,519
Speaker 5: Though.

607
00:26:33,559 --> 00:26:35,559
Speaker 1: You know, Iowa State's gonna do the same thing. Houston's

608
00:26:35,599 --> 00:26:36,480
gonna do the same thing.

609
00:26:36,799 --> 00:26:38,960
Speaker 7: So our guys gotta get used to playing against that

610
00:26:39,000 --> 00:26:39,720
type of pressure.

611
00:26:40,400 --> 00:26:42,279
Speaker 1: But you have to give them all the credit. They

612
00:26:42,279 --> 00:26:43,240
were good tonight with.

613
00:26:43,200 --> 00:26:47,400
Speaker 4: That val How could he play in this first prison I.

614
00:26:47,640 --> 00:26:49,000
Speaker 7: You know he he did what he did. You know

615
00:26:49,119 --> 00:26:51,799
the moment starting wasn't too big for him. He came in,

616
00:26:52,039 --> 00:26:54,079
you know he he plays with uh a great motor.

617
00:26:54,359 --> 00:26:56,079
The most the thing I was the most proud of

618
00:26:56,240 --> 00:26:58,079
is just three blocks and h and be high.

619
00:26:58,119 --> 00:26:59,279
Speaker 1: Those three blocks. We talked.

620
00:26:59,599 --> 00:27:02,680
Speaker 7: I was extremely disappointed in some of our rim protection

621
00:27:02,839 --> 00:27:05,359
last game. That was a point of emphasis coming into

622
00:27:05,359 --> 00:27:07,079
this game. So I like that specifically.

623
00:27:08,440 --> 00:27:09,799
Speaker 3: All Right, I want to just stop it here, Ben,

624
00:27:09,839 --> 00:27:11,279
and we were and I told you I was gonna

625
00:27:11,319 --> 00:27:13,079
do this. Going back to the previous comment, then we'll

626
00:27:13,079 --> 00:27:17,599
talk about Hadim's you know, first career start. Abiliene Christian

627
00:27:17,640 --> 00:27:19,920
was picking up BYU at times ninety four feet not

628
00:27:20,000 --> 00:27:22,119
the whole time, right because they got in foul trouble.

629
00:27:22,119 --> 00:27:24,680
They had to come off of it. Houston, Iowa State

630
00:27:24,720 --> 00:27:26,240
and other teams are going to do that to you

631
00:27:26,920 --> 00:27:30,920
all game long. Like the you're gonna have to do

632
00:27:30,920 --> 00:27:32,599
the same way you seef, Ben, They're gonna have to

633
00:27:32,640 --> 00:27:35,000
deal with that. For forty age is gonna be picked

634
00:27:35,079 --> 00:27:37,519
up for forty minutes.

635
00:27:37,279 --> 00:27:38,720
Speaker 4: Of times, full core pressure.

636
00:27:38,839 --> 00:27:41,400
Speaker 3: Rob right, Richie, like you don't get a day off,

637
00:27:41,400 --> 00:27:43,319
even Arizona. You go back to last year with Kaleb

638
00:27:43,440 --> 00:27:46,000
Love was tasked to guard Richie. He was guarding Richie

639
00:27:46,039 --> 00:27:48,680
ninety four feet like this. The intensity in this pressure

640
00:27:49,079 --> 00:27:50,480
is about the up. So yes, you do need to

641
00:27:50,519 --> 00:27:52,480
get off to a faster start. But if and I

642
00:27:52,519 --> 00:27:54,359
just want to preface this for the fans, if you

643
00:27:54,440 --> 00:27:57,400
thought the Abilene Christian game had its moments of up

644
00:27:57,440 --> 00:27:59,799
and down because every game has roller coasters, you haven't

645
00:27:59,799 --> 00:28:02,839
seen anything yet. Then, like I've watched Houston's game, I've

646
00:28:02,839 --> 00:28:05,720
watched Iowa State. It's the same suffocating defense that they've

647
00:28:05,759 --> 00:28:09,599
always done. They're not gonna take a playoff bin. And look,

648
00:28:09,640 --> 00:28:12,319
I'm I'm worried. What guys get tired, you know, Like,

649
00:28:12,480 --> 00:28:14,799
and this is why I think the bench needs to add,

650
00:28:15,000 --> 00:28:18,240
you know, add some some some scoring to it to

651
00:28:18,279 --> 00:28:21,279
relieve pressure off because look, they can say what they want,

652
00:28:21,640 --> 00:28:24,599
coaching staff, information directors, I don't care, and they might

653
00:28:24,640 --> 00:28:27,400
get taken personal. When I look at the minutes played

654
00:28:27,960 --> 00:28:31,319
on this sheet against Abilene Christian, I don't know if

655
00:28:31,319 --> 00:28:34,680
that's going to be sustainable throughout the entire conference play

656
00:28:35,200 --> 00:28:38,440
with the likes of Iowa State, Arizona and Houston, that's

657
00:28:38,480 --> 00:28:40,759
just a lot to ask To ask Richie to play

658
00:28:40,960 --> 00:28:42,880
thirty two minutes a night, to ask Rob to play

659
00:28:42,920 --> 00:28:44,960
thirty four minutes a night, to ask Azy to play

660
00:28:45,000 --> 00:28:45,599
thirty five.

661
00:28:45,400 --> 00:28:47,599
Speaker 4: Third like they can do it. They're capable, But.

662
00:28:47,640 --> 00:28:50,200
Speaker 3: That night and night out like that's going to be tough,

663
00:28:50,640 --> 00:28:54,319
especially with defense because Abilene Christian is gonna be twice

664
00:28:54,400 --> 00:28:57,359
as worse with Houston because you know how Calvin Samson

665
00:28:57,400 --> 00:28:59,680
has been. You know what he does. He's got a

666
00:28:59,720 --> 00:29:01,960
full low the roster of guys, like they wake up

667
00:29:02,000 --> 00:29:04,720
at five am, been in the offseason and they're running miles.

668
00:29:04,720 --> 00:29:06,319
The average mile in that team I think was like

669
00:29:06,400 --> 00:29:10,480
five forty eight like like this, that team is extremely conditioned.

670
00:29:10,519 --> 00:29:12,200
Speaker 4: And if you think I'm playing, I'm not playing.

671
00:29:12,319 --> 00:29:14,960
Speaker 3: Do you remember the game against Duke Duke scored one

672
00:29:15,000 --> 00:29:17,519
point or had one field going ten minutes, hey, and

673
00:29:17,559 --> 00:29:20,359
it came from Cooper flag. They shut out a team

674
00:29:20,680 --> 00:29:24,559
for nearly ten minutes, ten minutes like so, this is

675
00:29:24,559 --> 00:29:27,200
not hyperbole. I'm bringing this up of that. If you

676
00:29:27,279 --> 00:29:29,799
can't handle pressure against Abilene.

677
00:29:29,839 --> 00:29:31,480
Speaker 4: When you get to when you get to conference play

678
00:29:31,480 --> 00:29:32,319
in a week and a half.

679
00:29:32,640 --> 00:29:35,279
Speaker 3: Oh, baby, man, you're gonna have some people that's gonna

680
00:29:35,279 --> 00:29:35,880
be strapped up.

681
00:29:36,000 --> 00:29:36,160
Speaker 4: Now.

682
00:29:36,200 --> 00:29:37,920
Speaker 3: I believe that this team will figure it out, to

683
00:29:37,960 --> 00:29:40,839
have faith, but I just want to preference that because

684
00:29:41,240 --> 00:29:44,680
Houston and Iowa State are fantastic defensively and I saw

685
00:29:44,720 --> 00:29:46,960
some things at Babeling Christian where I'm like, that needs

686
00:29:46,960 --> 00:29:48,559
to get fixed sooner rather than later.

687
00:29:49,720 --> 00:29:53,519
Speaker 6: Yeah, I think you're onto something there. And look, the

688
00:29:53,559 --> 00:29:57,119
great thing about pre conference games is you get to

689
00:29:57,200 --> 00:30:01,480
learn without really going against uh, you know, the most

690
00:30:01,480 --> 00:30:05,279
formidable foes, right and uh, and so it's a great

691
00:30:05,279 --> 00:30:05,839
way to learn.

692
00:30:06,000 --> 00:30:08,480
Speaker 5: I love learning through winning.

693
00:30:09,039 --> 00:30:12,839
Speaker 6: Rather than learning through losing, especially in non conference play.

694
00:30:13,240 --> 00:30:15,839
And uh, right now, boy is a great resume. They'll

695
00:30:15,880 --> 00:30:18,680
continue to Uh, they have some prep prior to Big

696
00:30:18,720 --> 00:30:19,200
twelve play.

697
00:30:19,279 --> 00:30:20,720
Speaker 5: Let's get back to the k Y sound.

698
00:30:22,039 --> 00:30:25,680
Speaker 6: Keis something like you wanted to see without Kevi and

699
00:30:25,720 --> 00:30:27,880
there's the interior defensive lead.

700
00:30:28,319 --> 00:30:29,119
Speaker 1: Yeah definitely.

701
00:30:29,279 --> 00:30:29,440
Speaker 6: Uh.

702
00:30:29,519 --> 00:30:30,960
Speaker 1: You know, Kve is unbelievable in.

703
00:30:30,960 --> 00:30:32,720
Speaker 7: There, you know, and so when he's out that leaves

704
00:30:32,759 --> 00:30:36,839
a gaping hole. And so you know, we we you know,

705
00:30:36,880 --> 00:30:39,319
we talked about some different options. You know, I thought

706
00:30:39,319 --> 00:30:42,039
about starting Xavion to be honest, we throw him in there.

707
00:30:42,119 --> 00:30:45,920
Ultimately decided to start adem h And I thought he

708
00:30:46,279 --> 00:30:48,200
was spotted in a pretty positive way. And me, I

709
00:30:48,240 --> 00:30:49,759
think that was is that his second game in a

710
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row with double digit rebounds.

711
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Speaker 1: I think it is.

712
00:30:51,839 --> 00:30:54,000
Speaker 7: So you know, he's doing some good things for us,

713
00:30:54,039 --> 00:30:56,440
and you know he's just obviously a freshman. So to

714
00:30:56,519 --> 00:31:00,000
be able to you know, learn, learn and play is uh,

715
00:31:00,200 --> 00:31:01,079
you know, it's beneficial.

716
00:31:01,799 --> 00:31:04,000
Speaker 4: Why do you give uh State more minutes than if

717
00:31:04,079 --> 00:31:05,400
if you're considered starting him.

718
00:31:05,640 --> 00:31:06,599
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean it's just hard.

719
00:31:06,599 --> 00:31:08,960
Speaker 7: When it's hard to play three centers, it just is

720
00:31:09,839 --> 00:31:12,279
it's you know, it's no it's really no knock on him.

721
00:31:12,319 --> 00:31:14,640
I mean he's uh, he's had his moments, but I

722
00:31:14,640 --> 00:31:16,720
feel like hit a deem is is uh, you know,

723
00:31:16,759 --> 00:31:18,799
earned a bit, a bit bigger of a role. And

724
00:31:18,920 --> 00:31:20,960
you know, Mihailo is a guy who's battle tested for

725
00:31:21,079 --> 00:31:22,960
us at the five, who you could make a argument

726
00:31:23,000 --> 00:31:23,440
that he.

727
00:31:23,400 --> 00:31:24,559
Speaker 1: Also deserves more minutes.

728
00:31:24,599 --> 00:31:28,079
Speaker 7: It's just you know, it's hard to uh, it's hard

729
00:31:28,079 --> 00:31:29,039
to play three centers.

730
00:31:29,359 --> 00:31:31,240
Speaker 4: I gotta wish yourself, coach, were the last two years

731
00:31:31,240 --> 00:31:32,799
in the conference. I think you're twenty and two now.

732
00:31:32,799 --> 00:31:39,440
Speaker 7: In those games, you know, I think it's uh, I

733
00:31:39,440 --> 00:31:41,920
think probably a bit more impressive this year than last

734
00:31:42,440 --> 00:31:45,359
in terms of that stat that you just mentioned. But

735
00:31:47,079 --> 00:31:48,799
you know, their games are great because they get you

736
00:31:48,839 --> 00:31:50,119
ready for conference.

737
00:31:49,720 --> 00:31:50,319
Speaker 1: Play, you know.

738
00:31:50,400 --> 00:31:53,039
Speaker 7: And I'm glad we scheduled that team cause they're they're

739
00:31:53,079 --> 00:31:54,279
a hard team to play against.

740
00:31:54,279 --> 00:31:54,440
Speaker 5: You know.

741
00:31:54,480 --> 00:31:56,440
Speaker 7: It's when you can kind of just walk through a

742
00:31:56,519 --> 00:31:58,119
game and do whatever you want, you know, I don't

743
00:31:58,160 --> 00:31:59,000
think you get as much.

744
00:31:59,039 --> 00:32:00,799
Speaker 1: And so that's what I told their coach after me.

745
00:32:00,960 --> 00:32:03,680
Speaker 7: You guys are you know, a hard team to play against,

746
00:32:03,720 --> 00:32:04,799
and it definitely made it better.

747
00:32:05,359 --> 00:32:07,640
Speaker 3: What at you frustrated early in the second half to

748
00:32:07,839 --> 00:32:09,200
led to that technical.

749
00:32:09,720 --> 00:32:12,039
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean, and again I'm not you know, I'm

750
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not trying to.

751
00:32:14,319 --> 00:32:16,400
Speaker 7: You know, brate the officials. That's not my style. You

752
00:32:16,400 --> 00:32:18,880
gotta see me coach enough games. But look, I mean,

753
00:32:18,920 --> 00:32:21,480
they put these tapes out before the season of points

754
00:32:21,519 --> 00:32:23,680
of emphasis, and then when those points of emphasis are

755
00:32:23,799 --> 00:32:26,119
followed in a game, especially when a team is kind

756
00:32:26,119 --> 00:32:28,880
of like that's what they do, it's a little bit frustrating.

757
00:32:28,920 --> 00:32:31,559
So I just was probably frustrated, you know, have a

758
00:32:31,599 --> 00:32:33,480
newborn dude, I'm grouchy.

759
00:32:33,640 --> 00:32:40,839
Speaker 6: So okay, so you like it, you dislike it, you're

760
00:32:40,880 --> 00:32:44,119
neutral with it. Ka why getting a T in that

761
00:32:44,160 --> 00:32:48,000
situation versus Avenue Christian on his home court, he was

762
00:32:48,079 --> 00:32:54,279
He was very lively, he was very angry with that.

763
00:32:54,279 --> 00:32:55,920
That that with that, with those reps.

764
00:32:56,160 --> 00:32:58,680
Speaker 3: I won't utter the words because I'm not allowed as

765
00:32:58,720 --> 00:33:00,920
to find of what he might have said. But uh,

766
00:33:01,039 --> 00:33:02,480
he's fighting for his guy. He's been Look, at the

767
00:33:02,559 --> 00:33:04,720
end of the day, it's basketball, right that happens.

768
00:33:04,759 --> 00:33:05,559
Speaker 4: Ben, I mean, you played.

769
00:33:05,599 --> 00:33:08,000
Speaker 3: If a flag comes for defending your guys or the

770
00:33:08,039 --> 00:33:10,440
coach defending his players. Look, I'm not gonna be upset.

771
00:33:10,559 --> 00:33:12,680
Kalanne's gotten flagged a time or two. Get in the

772
00:33:13,400 --> 00:33:15,160
I love it, I love it, I respect it. I

773
00:33:15,200 --> 00:33:17,119
mean to go to the NBA. There's a Viour clip

774
00:33:17,119 --> 00:33:20,400
going around of Anthony Edwards, you know, saying I'm effing

775
00:33:20,480 --> 00:33:22,920
with you know, Chris Finch getting you know, kicked out

776
00:33:22,920 --> 00:33:24,759
of the game. He's like, you know, he's like, I

777
00:33:24,799 --> 00:33:26,759
love that he's fighting for It's like the players love

778
00:33:26,799 --> 00:33:30,359
their coaches, you know, standing on business and coaches love

779
00:33:30,400 --> 00:33:32,519
when their players stand up bitiness both you know, or

780
00:33:32,559 --> 00:33:34,000
a match made in heaven. So I have no problem

781
00:33:34,039 --> 00:33:36,119
with k Why getting that. I know he's being funny.

782
00:33:36,119 --> 00:33:38,599
I'm grouchy about that, but look, Kevin Young is in

783
00:33:38,680 --> 00:33:40,640
the NBA. Ben he said this last year and this

784
00:33:40,680 --> 00:33:42,720
is not and I don't want anybody to get upset

785
00:33:42,759 --> 00:33:45,920
with this, but he's right. You can't guard that way

786
00:33:45,920 --> 00:33:48,240
in the NBA. And that's his mindset. Steal is why

787
00:33:48,240 --> 00:33:50,240
are you allowed to guard this way in college basketball

788
00:33:50,359 --> 00:33:51,759
if it's not done at the highest level.

789
00:33:52,039 --> 00:33:53,200
Speaker 4: So he's gonna do that.

790
00:33:53,279 --> 00:33:55,559
Speaker 3: He's always gonna critique and he's always gonna fight for

791
00:33:55,559 --> 00:33:57,160
his guys. But I think that's a great thing. I

792
00:33:57,200 --> 00:33:58,880
think it's okay to get a technical foul.

793
00:33:59,039 --> 00:34:00,960
Speaker 4: You know. I remember Mark Pup got that for the

794
00:34:01,000 --> 00:34:02,200
water bottle of Mark Durampa.

795
00:34:02,319 --> 00:34:05,880
Speaker 3: I think it's okay to get frustrated because you're trying

796
00:34:05,920 --> 00:34:08,480
to they're competitive too, and we've heard it from a

797
00:34:08,480 --> 00:34:10,480
couple of people now, we heard it from Trevin Hill yesterday.

798
00:34:10,519 --> 00:34:13,559
Kevin Young is up there and the coaches now being

799
00:34:13,599 --> 00:34:16,719
extremely competitive. So I have no problem with this technical foul.

800
00:34:16,800 --> 00:34:19,440
It is completely okay. Look, it's like when Cahill Fanila

801
00:34:19,519 --> 00:34:21,920
got the technical foul for getting up and chirping. I

802
00:34:21,960 --> 00:34:23,880
love when they chirped because guess what happened after that?

803
00:34:24,239 --> 00:34:27,599
After you church right, they got calls like So it's okay.

804
00:34:27,599 --> 00:34:30,360
It's sometimes it gets the officials back on your good

805
00:34:30,440 --> 00:34:31,320
side to be able to do that.

806
00:34:31,400 --> 00:34:32,400
Speaker 4: So I think that's totally fine.

807
00:34:32,400 --> 00:34:36,280
Speaker 6: You gotta take it real quick, little college football update

808
00:34:37,320 --> 00:34:39,559
watching this Miami game. I don't know if you're keeping

809
00:34:39,559 --> 00:34:42,280
tasks on keeping tabs, but I wanted to get a

810
00:34:42,280 --> 00:34:46,639
little scoreboard update. If you're driving around, you're tuning in.

811
00:34:47,159 --> 00:34:50,880
We do have Miami versus Texas am going on right

812
00:34:50,920 --> 00:34:53,920
now in the second eleven thirty two left and it's

813
00:34:54,000 --> 00:34:56,800
zero to zero, no score, no dice, no nothing. But

814
00:34:57,079 --> 00:35:00,239
I will say, there's so last night Alabama I got

815
00:35:00,239 --> 00:35:01,840
to win over Oklahoma that it was a nice win

816
00:35:01,960 --> 00:35:07,519
on Oklahoma's home field, and that's great. But uh, and

817
00:35:07,559 --> 00:35:09,639
so we're getting into these college football playoff games with

818
00:35:09,679 --> 00:35:12,639
which Jake ret Slothwell is the two lane Wave take

819
00:35:12,639 --> 00:35:13,400
on Ole Miss.

820
00:35:13,480 --> 00:35:15,280
Speaker 5: You hope they can shock the world. That will be

821
00:35:15,320 --> 00:35:16,039
at one thirty.

822
00:35:16,400 --> 00:35:20,679
Speaker 6: But Kiante Scott just had a sack script strip fumble

823
00:35:21,000 --> 00:35:24,079
and I think Miami may have recovered it. Kiante Scott

824
00:35:24,079 --> 00:35:26,519
once upon a time. It's they're starting nickel there at Miami.

825
00:35:26,559 --> 00:35:26,760
Speaker 8: Once U.

826
00:35:26,760 --> 00:35:30,320
Speaker 6: By the time, Kiante Scott was at Snow College, Okay,

827
00:35:31,039 --> 00:35:35,000
and tons of BYU ties, tons of BYU kind of

828
00:35:35,000 --> 00:35:40,039
teammates his head coach, Zach Erg's and a BYU former player,

829
00:35:41,199 --> 00:35:45,199
and I believe Miles Davis was a good childhood friends

830
00:35:45,199 --> 00:35:47,920
of his, so Conty Scott hopped onto our show multiple times.

831
00:35:48,119 --> 00:35:49,280
Speaker 5: B way you had a chance.

832
00:35:49,599 --> 00:35:52,639
Speaker 6: We just didn't have the influx. We were slow playing.

833
00:35:53,039 --> 00:35:55,920
We were slow playing the Nio game. We did remember

834
00:35:55,920 --> 00:35:58,920
when we initially launched our Nio game, it was the

835
00:35:59,039 --> 00:36:03,559
built for life built bar program, right, and it was

836
00:36:03,599 --> 00:36:07,360
all about having everyone on the team, including walk ons,

837
00:36:07,400 --> 00:36:11,880
getting paid and there was really no hierarchy. And we

838
00:36:12,039 --> 00:36:14,599
I think we did that in a conservative way because

839
00:36:14,599 --> 00:36:16,039
we didn't want to get out in front of this

840
00:36:16,159 --> 00:36:19,000
and be like the first to delve into Nio because

841
00:36:19,039 --> 00:36:22,719
it was still viewed as illegal, Like the people didn't

842
00:36:22,760 --> 00:36:24,599
realize at that time. Shout out to the monks and

843
00:36:24,679 --> 00:36:27,440
chubbies and they're getting some beer batter fries over there

844
00:36:27,440 --> 00:36:31,400
at Chubbies. The monks just showed up, So appreciate all

845
00:36:31,440 --> 00:36:33,480
these BYU fans showing up to the warehouse.

846
00:36:33,480 --> 00:36:36,639
Speaker 5: By the way, we're live. Oh yes, Salt City Swagger

847
00:36:36,760 --> 00:36:37,400
showing up.

848
00:36:38,039 --> 00:36:41,199
Speaker 6: The warehouse sale going on right now at Royal Army

849
00:36:41,199 --> 00:36:43,960
Brands warehouse here in Pleasant Grove, five two seven West

850
00:36:44,199 --> 00:36:46,639
State Street. That's five two seven West State Street in

851
00:36:46,760 --> 00:36:49,480
Pleasant Grove. Stop on by, say hello and get some

852
00:36:49,559 --> 00:36:51,679
BYU swag created by fans for fans.

853
00:36:51,719 --> 00:36:53,079
Speaker 5: Stay loyal to the Royal.

854
00:36:52,960 --> 00:36:54,800
Speaker 6: Repp and why the right way purchase all your by

855
00:36:54,960 --> 00:36:59,079
licensed apparel at Royal Army Brand dot com. But anyway,

856
00:36:59,719 --> 00:37:01,840
what I'm saying is we had a chance for Kiante

857
00:37:02,039 --> 00:37:03,760
and now he's balling out in the colleg football player.

858
00:37:03,840 --> 00:37:06,360
We've got two guys that I mean, Keelan could have

859
00:37:06,400 --> 00:37:08,679
been a be a be a part of BYU had

860
00:37:08,719 --> 00:37:10,960
he not transferred, which you gotta be able to retain

861
00:37:11,000 --> 00:37:13,119
those guys. But both guys that can help you win

862
00:37:13,119 --> 00:37:15,880
football games. I just wanted to point that out, uh,

863
00:37:16,199 --> 00:37:18,760
that that we got chances. We can get some great

864
00:37:18,800 --> 00:37:21,880
players here in Provo at any rate. Let's get back

865
00:37:21,880 --> 00:37:23,800
to the sound recap that, and then we'll get out

866
00:37:23,800 --> 00:37:25,760
to I will take a brief time out. We'll welcome

867
00:37:25,760 --> 00:37:28,400
in Will Snowden on the flip side of Alpha recruits.

868
00:37:28,480 --> 00:37:29,760
Speaker 5: Let's get back to the k y sound.

869
00:37:30,079 --> 00:37:31,840
Speaker 1: I brought up earlier that your team kind of took

870
00:37:31,840 --> 00:37:33,719
the bait. What was that that bait.

871
00:37:33,519 --> 00:37:37,519
Speaker 7: That acud sped us up without playing off two in

872
00:37:37,559 --> 00:37:40,800
the paint, you know, driving into crowds, not like begging

873
00:37:40,840 --> 00:37:43,159
for the ball and not back cutting, you know, when

874
00:37:43,159 --> 00:37:46,480
you saw the opposite, like you know, move back cuts, layup,

875
00:37:46,639 --> 00:37:49,239
you know, move drives, plays off to swing, swing wide

876
00:37:49,239 --> 00:37:51,960
open shots. So that's why I was frustrated with the

877
00:37:52,039 --> 00:37:54,119
guys a little bit in the first you know, half

878
00:37:54,199 --> 00:37:56,239
of the first half, but I did think they adjusted

879
00:37:56,760 --> 00:37:59,039
and then look some of the turnover the second half, you.

880
00:37:59,000 --> 00:38:01,320
Speaker 1: Know, a couple runouts and transition.

881
00:38:01,440 --> 00:38:03,440
Speaker 7: But I mean, you know, those those guys played hard

882
00:38:03,480 --> 00:38:05,559
and they made they made uh, they made plays with

883
00:38:05,599 --> 00:38:06,440
their athleticism.

884
00:38:06,840 --> 00:38:10,199
Speaker 1: Kevin with Alexi and Tyler had the same rule.

885
00:38:10,519 --> 00:38:11,199
Speaker 5: How are you are you?

886
00:38:11,960 --> 00:38:14,559
Speaker 1: How are you going about? Yeah?

887
00:38:14,559 --> 00:38:14,840
Speaker 5: I don't know.

888
00:38:14,880 --> 00:38:16,760
Speaker 7: I wish I had a great, like s super well

889
00:38:16,800 --> 00:38:20,079
thought out answer for you. I I'm just you know,

890
00:38:20,119 --> 00:38:22,000
I'm on the fence a little bit, to be honest

891
00:38:22,039 --> 00:38:24,280
with it. You know, I think they're different. You know,

892
00:38:24,320 --> 00:38:27,159
they're different. Alexey provides a little bit more ball handling

893
00:38:27,159 --> 00:38:29,719
where Tyler, you know, he's a little bit bigger. He's

894
00:38:29,760 --> 00:38:32,400
a little bit you know, tougher in the sense of

895
00:38:32,440 --> 00:38:34,679
sticks his nose in a fight. Not that Alexey's not

896
00:38:34,719 --> 00:38:37,320
a tough kid, but think Tyler's toughness rears. It's had

897
00:38:37,320 --> 00:38:43,000
a little bit more in moments. So part of it is,

898
00:38:43,159 --> 00:38:45,199
you know, when Rob comes out, I do like Alexey

899
00:38:45,239 --> 00:38:47,280
in there with AJ just to have another ball handler

900
00:38:47,320 --> 00:38:48,239
out there, and then.

901
00:38:49,920 --> 00:38:51,119
Speaker 1: You know, I don't know it's gonna be It's a

902
00:38:51,159 --> 00:38:52,280
decent problem to have.

903
00:38:52,440 --> 00:38:55,920
Speaker 7: But uh, I'm glad that they've had these couple games

904
00:38:55,960 --> 00:38:57,800
to get some good minutes under their belt and we'll

905
00:38:57,840 --> 00:39:01,599
just continue to, you know, have of a competitive practices

906
00:39:01,639 --> 00:39:03,559
and see who continues to earn minutes.

907
00:39:03,880 --> 00:39:06,320
Speaker 4: He's the illness that Kate was dealing with.

908
00:39:06,400 --> 00:39:07,079
Speaker 8: Is that the same thing?

909
00:39:07,119 --> 00:39:09,239
Speaker 1: And say he went through as well? I think so, yeah.

910
00:39:09,320 --> 00:39:12,239
Speaker 7: I mean it's I just think there's a little thing

911
00:39:12,280 --> 00:39:14,760
going around period. Like half my family has it and

912
00:39:14,760 --> 00:39:17,320
hopefully he just rides the wave and he's better soon.

913
00:39:18,239 --> 00:39:21,719
Speaker 4: Mentioned I think he wanted twelve Jay podcast, which it

914
00:39:21,760 --> 00:39:24,000
could be a third potentially season an injury.

915
00:39:24,079 --> 00:39:25,559
Speaker 1: How do you feel like the roster is going to

916
00:39:25,599 --> 00:39:26,679
conference play?

917
00:39:27,960 --> 00:39:29,760
Speaker 7: I think we'll have I think we're getting close to

918
00:39:29,800 --> 00:39:33,159
having a little bit more information readily available on that topic,

919
00:39:34,239 --> 00:39:36,000
so I'll just kind of wait for that to get there.

920
00:39:36,360 --> 00:39:38,599
Speaker 1: Yeah, I am disappointed, and.

921
00:39:38,679 --> 00:39:41,440
Speaker 5: No questions about the great article about the dunk. By

922
00:39:41,480 --> 00:39:46,199
the way, a great article about the Wait, so he

923
00:39:46,559 --> 00:39:48,400
called you guys out. Shout out to Cougar fan showing

924
00:39:48,440 --> 00:39:50,760
up to the warehouse here at Pleasant Grove to call

925
00:39:50,840 --> 00:39:51,039
us out.

926
00:39:51,039 --> 00:39:52,719
Speaker 4: We missed an opportunity to ask about the dunk.

927
00:39:52,800 --> 00:39:55,119
Speaker 5: Yeh wait, wait, so who wrote an article?

928
00:39:55,119 --> 00:39:57,079
Speaker 3: It was Jackson Payne. He pointed to Jackson Payne because

929
00:39:57,119 --> 00:39:59,679
Jackson wrote article. Jackson was confused because he didn't know

930
00:39:59,719 --> 00:40:01,840
it for what he was talking about. He thought he'd

931
00:40:01,840 --> 00:40:04,480
been a different recap and Brandon disbanded, tell him know

932
00:40:04,519 --> 00:40:07,159
your article about him, Dunky, though he's like, oh, the viral,

933
00:40:07,360 --> 00:40:10,360
like Jackson, even though look, sometimes we cluses to media members, dude,

934
00:40:10,360 --> 00:40:12,280
sometimes we're locked in and focus just on the game

935
00:40:12,360 --> 00:40:13,079
itself and other.

936
00:40:13,000 --> 00:40:14,000
Speaker 4: Stuff, and we should have.

937
00:40:14,119 --> 00:40:16,400
Speaker 3: But look now that we've opened up with Ky enough,

938
00:40:16,400 --> 00:40:19,039
where we've started asking about you know, Mitch was asking

939
00:40:19,079 --> 00:40:23,199
that Mitch Harborough KSL Sports asked about his quarter zip stuff.

940
00:40:23,239 --> 00:40:26,559
You know, you know he gave the piano rocito. I

941
00:40:26,599 --> 00:40:29,000
asked about you know, sons basketball. Now that we've he's

942
00:40:29,039 --> 00:40:30,920
opened up a little bit more. If we don't do

943
00:40:31,000 --> 00:40:33,360
these moments now, he's like, I'm upset you guys to

944
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ask about the dunk. So now we're gonna have to

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pay attention to the coaches showing these funny moments to

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ask him more. But that's why I posted on your Twitter.

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It was it was the right thing to do. We

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messed up. We dropped the ball.

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Speaker 4: Ky.

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Speaker 3: I apologize we missed an opportunity. We should have asked

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about the dunk. Ben, so what I had made up

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for it and we'll play this sound later, I asked AJ,

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And I know the interview was over, so shout out

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to Tyson Jackson letting me get that last question even

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though we're out. I was like, can you confirm that

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Kevin can youngka dunk? And AJ debonds said sadly, yes

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I can.

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Speaker 1: So.

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Speaker 4: It was a little jokingly but hopefully that made up

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for it.

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Speaker 3: But yes, we forgot to ask Kevin Young about him

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dunking and basketball and him dunking.

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Speaker 4: A volleyball, you know, I think earlier this year.

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Speaker 5: Let's take a brief time out.

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Speaker 6: We'll come back and we'll have wilsonow Nevalfe recruits, get

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talk some college football CFP transfer portal season, and much

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Speaker 5: Let's get out to the hot live.

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Speaker 6: Welcome informer b YU running back, wide receiver, punt returner,

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kick returner.

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Speaker 5: He could do it all.

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Speaker 6: He's uh the owner operator of Alpha Recruits.

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Speaker 5: He is the one, the only Will Snowden. How the

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heck are you? Will? Thanks for joining us today.

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Speaker 8: Happy to be with you, Ben. How are you, brother?

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Speaker 5: I'm doing fantastic. Brother. Are you gonna come by the

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warehouse sale get some gear?

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Speaker 8: Well, you know, Ben, I've got a lot going on today.

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I'm gonna try and get there. But to be honest,

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I can't guarantee.

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Speaker 5: You Okay, no worries, Man. I appreciate you joining us today. Will.

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Speaker 6: It is the craziest time of the year. It's transfer

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portal season. How would you describe transfer portal season from

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your purview? From your pulpit? You know, I know you're busy,

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You're you're on the grind right now. It's the craziest

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time of the year probably for you.

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Speaker 8: Yeah, it is. It's a very crazy time and it

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makes and then you have the holidays. It's it's really

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00:43:53,079 --> 00:43:55,599
making for a crazy time for me and you know,

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Uh and the wife, you know, and the family. I'm

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super busy doing a lot contract is you know, I

1024
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think we're doing twenty seven contracts, actually thirty three contracts

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this month for players, and it's it's absolutely insane. I'm

1026
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just play you the truth. It's insane, but it's fun

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and keep sing Disney for sure.

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Speaker 6: How many of these contracts are negotiated in person typically,

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and how many of them are like via zoom.

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Speaker 8: It's kind of fifty to fifty. This week, I've been

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down at on do I US campus for several hours

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and in Salt Lake City for several hours, and then

1033
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I've done deals at Colorado and North Carolina State USC,

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Oregon State, Boise State, CSU.

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Speaker 5: Yeah.

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Speaker 8: So a lot of the out of state ones are

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we do zoom calls and just kind of go back

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and forth. But the local ones I'm able to get

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into the office and kind of sit down face to face.

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I like to do a face to face because you

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get the chance to really get a feel of what

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they're thinking about the offer or what you're presenting them

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on the player. So I do like to be face

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to face it whatever I can.

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Speaker 6: Well, I know it's chaotic, but these are great opportunities.

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What do you make of the calendar though, like if

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you had an idealistic calendar, when would this happen?

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Speaker 5: Would it would it happen.

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00:45:16,639 --> 00:45:19,519
Speaker 6: After the college football playoff? Would there is there an

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00:45:19,559 --> 00:45:23,880
idealistic calendar for for you and what you do?

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Speaker 8: Yeah, I mean it's really tough. I you know, I

1052
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understand where they came up with this time, but this

1053
00:45:30,199 --> 00:45:32,599
time kind of thinks I just don't think there's an

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idealistic time because number one, yeah, I mean, I guess

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00:45:36,280 --> 00:45:40,639
that the contract to be negotiated differently, but almost where

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they get through the whole year, like Transford Portal opens,

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you know at the end of April or May, and

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then you know everyone's moving from school to school, so

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you're only getting summer workouts and then the fall. But

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now you know, with it going from January tecod through

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the sixteenth, there's school is going to be in session,

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so there will be guys who are making their decision

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by the sixteenth of where they're going to school, and

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they're probably a week or two behind school starting. So

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I don't have that answer. I know they're trying to

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figure that out, but for me, it would probably be

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right before the summer. But that kind of stinks for

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kids who are trying to go in and earn a position,

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so they don't get a chance to actually they're only

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get a chance to actually compete for spring. So I

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do think that will put more pressures on the universities,

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which means they're probably not going to do it. So

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we're just gonna have to stick it out with this

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time and deal with the consequences that affect the bowl

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00:46:36,440 --> 00:46:39,719
games and affect all the other things that come with

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this business, no.

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Speaker 5: Doubt about it.

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Speaker 6: I think BYU and I know Utah they've benefited from

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the portal. I want to say that they've it's been

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more of a net positive.

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Speaker 5: Than a net neutral net negative. How do you think?

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Speaker 6: How would you grade that out b YU and Utah specifically,

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00:46:55,360 --> 00:46:57,880
has it been more of this new era of nil

1084
00:46:57,960 --> 00:47:01,760
transfer portal you know landscape colle football landscape that has

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00:47:01,840 --> 00:47:04,840
been net positive, net neutral, net negative for these two schools.

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Speaker 8: I think that for sure net positive. And it's because

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I mean the leadership at both schools has just been

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you know, exceptional obviously with Kyle Whittingham and then and

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then with Kawani being a younger coach. But these are

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programs that are built on tradition, and they're built on family,

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00:47:23,880 --> 00:47:28,320
really they are, and so many so many families that

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you know, sons and grandkids who's you know, their grandpa,

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00:47:33,519 --> 00:47:36,079
pe their their dad played there, and so they get

1094
00:47:36,119 --> 00:47:39,000
a lot of that, and then they build really exceptional

1095
00:47:39,039 --> 00:47:42,480
cultures where the kids do want to be there. They're

1096
00:47:42,559 --> 00:47:47,719
pretty aggressive with the LDS recruiting and the Utah based recruiting,

1097
00:47:47,760 --> 00:47:50,280
and in this area, kids who come to be why

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00:47:50,320 --> 00:47:52,440
you and Utah they come here because they want to

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00:47:52,480 --> 00:47:54,800
be a part of something a little bit different. And

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00:47:55,000 --> 00:47:57,920
both programs that do deliver do deliver something that's a

1101
00:47:57,960 --> 00:48:00,599
little bit different. And I think that comes from both

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of the head coaches coming off of the Lavelle Edwards

1103
00:48:03,239 --> 00:48:07,039
tree and then really Kilani coming off of Kyle Whittingham's tree.

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And I'm guessing that Morgan Scully will stay on that

1105
00:48:10,920 --> 00:48:16,360
Kyle Whittingham Lavell Edwards tree. So I think they'll continue

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00:48:16,400 --> 00:48:18,800
to benefit majorly because they're able to keep the core

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00:48:18,920 --> 00:48:21,840
guys that they want to keep, guys who really represent

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00:48:21,920 --> 00:48:25,199
their belief in the Court foundation, and then they're able

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00:48:25,239 --> 00:48:26,840
to add to that so they're able to keep a

1110
00:48:26,880 --> 00:48:30,920
pretty good locker room with the guys that they bring

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in for through the portal.

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Speaker 6: I was debating this yesterday and I want to get

1113
00:48:35,239 --> 00:48:36,760
your thoughts on. I'm going to give you the list

1114
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of transfer portal players that Bway has been able to

1115
00:48:38,920 --> 00:48:41,280
obtain via the transfer portal, and I'm gonna ask you this,

1116
00:48:41,320 --> 00:48:43,000
who your favorite transfer is? I think I know your

1117
00:48:43,000 --> 00:48:45,760
favorite transfer is, and who who the most impactful transfer

1118
00:48:46,119 --> 00:48:48,159
has Shinn? All right, so you got Pookaakua. Why does

1119
00:48:48,199 --> 00:48:51,760
Youver Washington Samson wide sever, Utah Kingsley saw at the

1120
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offensive tackle Oregon Jack Kelly linebacker Weaver, Eddie Hecker cornerback

1121
00:48:56,079 --> 00:49:00,320
Weaver State, Carson Ryan's tight end, Utah Andrew Gentry offensive tackle, Mechigan,

1122
00:49:00,519 --> 00:49:03,679
Aiden Robbins running back unlv Nice pick up, Keton Slova's

1123
00:49:03,760 --> 00:49:08,079
quarterback pit Justin Kirkland defensive lineman Oklahoma State, Tell Celiacna Edge,

1124
00:49:08,119 --> 00:49:12,519
Texas New c Tomwaypeo defensive line, Stanford Jackson Cravens d line,

1125
00:49:12,679 --> 00:49:16,239
Isaiah Vanya Edge, Chris Brooks running back, Darius Lasser, wide receiver,

1126
00:49:16,320 --> 00:49:20,320
kaeland Marrion wide receiver, Bear Bachmeyer quarterback, Tiger Bachmeyer, wide

1127
00:49:20,360 --> 00:49:24,840
receiver Caleb Hayes cornerback, Jacob Robinson, cornerback Crew Wakeley, safety,

1128
00:49:24,920 --> 00:49:29,039
k Judy Lalley cornerback, Houston Hamui fullback Will Farren kicker,

1129
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and then Sam vanderhar Punch.

1130
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Speaker 5: That's my list.

1131
00:49:31,840 --> 00:49:34,199
Speaker 6: Who's your favorite and who do you think has been

1132
00:49:34,239 --> 00:49:35,599
the most impactful at b YU.

1133
00:49:36,920 --> 00:49:39,599
Speaker 8: Well, there's no questioning my favorite is is Jacob Robinson,

1134
00:49:39,679 --> 00:49:42,880
and I feel like he was the he was was

1135
00:49:42,920 --> 00:49:47,320
the arguably the most impactful. But yeah, obviously Jack Kelly

1136
00:49:47,320 --> 00:49:52,119
has been majorly impactful. He's been probably the best backer

1137
00:49:52,159 --> 00:49:55,199
they've had since he transferred in. They have a great

1138
00:49:55,199 --> 00:49:57,519
back or corps, but Jack has been known as kind

1139
00:49:57,519 --> 00:50:01,519
of the the alpha of that group and that says

1140
00:50:01,559 --> 00:50:04,360
a lot playing next to Isaiah Glasker and the guys

1141
00:50:04,360 --> 00:50:06,400
that he has. I don't know if you have Max

1142
00:50:06,440 --> 00:50:09,119
Alford on there. Max Alferd transferred in this year as well,

1143
00:50:09,599 --> 00:50:12,320
But I would say Jacob Robinson. I mean a guy

1144
00:50:12,480 --> 00:50:15,159
was able to come in and play impactful minutes for

1145
00:50:15,239 --> 00:50:17,199
four years. I mean he was a four year starter.

1146
00:50:17,599 --> 00:50:19,719
So I think you have to give it to Jacob Robinson.

1147
00:50:20,039 --> 00:50:22,599
But then you're gonna have a pretty big, big argument

1148
00:50:22,639 --> 00:50:25,840
for young Bear Backfire who came in in one eleven

1149
00:50:25,880 --> 00:50:29,039
games his first year, so that's been majorly impactful and

1150
00:50:29,079 --> 00:50:32,639
took him to a championship game. So Bear has been great.

1151
00:50:32,719 --> 00:50:36,760
But if you look at the how much Jacob did

1152
00:50:36,800 --> 00:50:39,199
and how many snaps he played in the four years

1153
00:50:39,239 --> 00:50:43,079
since he transferred from Utah State, I think it has

1154
00:50:43,119 --> 00:50:44,280
to be him now.

1155
00:50:44,400 --> 00:50:46,159
Speaker 5: I think it's a really good take. We made that

1156
00:50:46,280 --> 00:50:47,960
argument as well. We know how difficult it.

1157
00:50:48,119 --> 00:50:54,079
Speaker 6: Is to recruit, retain develop cornerback play at BYU, and

1158
00:50:54,119 --> 00:50:59,159
that dude was nails from the beginning. He was tremendously

1159
00:50:59,239 --> 00:51:02,039
He played safety too for a game and picked off

1160
00:51:02,079 --> 00:51:05,280
like multiple passes. It's like he could have played he

1161
00:51:05,360 --> 00:51:08,280
played outside corner, he played nickel, he could play free safety,

1162
00:51:08,639 --> 00:51:12,440
and so the versatility of his impact and traditionally, to

1163
00:51:12,480 --> 00:51:15,880
your point, BYU, over the last thirty forty years, they've

1164
00:51:15,920 --> 00:51:19,880
been a linebacker school. I mean, Jack was phenomenal, right,

1165
00:51:19,880 --> 00:51:22,480
and he was super impactful, but you got a ton

1166
00:51:22,519 --> 00:51:25,920
of linebackers that you don't always have impactful corners.

1167
00:51:25,760 --> 00:51:28,840
Speaker 8: Without a doubt. I mean, and when you talk about impact,

1168
00:51:28,840 --> 00:51:31,679
I mean everything about playing on the defense side, particularly

1169
00:51:31,719 --> 00:51:33,920
in the back end. As you know, being one of

1170
00:51:34,000 --> 00:51:38,119
the best dbs that we've had is that they want

1171
00:51:38,199 --> 00:51:40,639
to take the ball away and so one of the

1172
00:51:40,679 --> 00:51:43,440
things you have to respect for Jacob. I can't remember

1173
00:51:43,480 --> 00:51:46,400
what his total interceptions were, but it must have been

1174
00:51:46,400 --> 00:51:50,480
close to eighteen or you know, so that's a lot

1175
00:51:50,480 --> 00:51:54,400
of takeaways. So I think that that the argument will

1176
00:51:54,440 --> 00:51:56,559
be made that Jacob Robinson is the king of the

1177
00:51:56,559 --> 00:51:59,679
back end when it comes to BYU decent the.

1178
00:51:59,679 --> 00:52:03,159
Speaker 5: Back Yeah, I like that. Take a lot. Give me

1179
00:52:03,199 --> 00:52:03,719
your thoughts.

1180
00:52:04,320 --> 00:52:06,599
Speaker 6: What type of acquisitions do you think b YU is

1181
00:52:06,639 --> 00:52:08,599
going to pick up this go around. Where do you

1182
00:52:08,639 --> 00:52:10,920
think they have needs? I think you know, tight end

1183
00:52:11,000 --> 00:52:13,960
is one that they need. I'm hoping that Walker Lyons

1184
00:52:14,440 --> 00:52:17,400
chooses b YU this go around.

1185
00:52:17,559 --> 00:52:18,599
Speaker 5: Coming out of the portal.

1186
00:52:18,960 --> 00:52:20,960
Speaker 6: But what do you think are some of the needs

1187
00:52:20,960 --> 00:52:23,039
that b YU may pick up in the portal this season?

1188
00:52:23,800 --> 00:52:25,679
Speaker 8: Yeah, I agree with you. I think that they will

1189
00:52:25,719 --> 00:52:29,519
be looking at a few different a few different positions. Obviously,

1190
00:52:29,559 --> 00:52:31,679
you have to look at identify what's going to happen

1191
00:52:31,719 --> 00:52:34,400
at number one and get that number one quarterback position

1192
00:52:34,519 --> 00:52:37,079
sign and then make sure you have the backups in

1193
00:52:37,119 --> 00:52:40,199
place that are needed at quarterback because it all starts

1194
00:52:40,199 --> 00:52:42,880
at quarterback. Do you deal with the tight end on

1195
00:52:42,960 --> 00:52:45,360
the offense side of the ball. You are losing a

1196
00:52:45,519 --> 00:52:49,039
very impactful receiver and Chase Roberts. Still, they probably want

1197
00:52:49,039 --> 00:52:52,199
to add one or two receivers to that room to

1198
00:52:52,800 --> 00:52:56,159
get a little bit more dynamic. Defensively, they seem to

1199
00:52:56,199 --> 00:53:01,800
be pretty solid. You'll probably see another DV added, and

1200
00:53:01,840 --> 00:53:04,280
then you're gonna continue always to be sureing up the

1201
00:53:04,320 --> 00:53:07,679
D line. I mean, they've got young D linemen, the

1202
00:53:07,800 --> 00:53:11,400
edges seem to be really strong. But I do think

1203
00:53:11,400 --> 00:53:14,119
they'll you know, always looking to add interior D line.

1204
00:53:15,400 --> 00:53:18,400
But the biggest thing is I really feel like they'll

1205
00:53:18,440 --> 00:53:22,159
add aggressively on the offensive side to give Bear more weapons.

1206
00:53:22,880 --> 00:53:25,039
And then obviously if you can the tight end two

1207
00:53:25,079 --> 00:53:27,119
are out there there. This is a very good tight

1208
00:53:27,199 --> 00:53:30,599
end class. Uh, what's going on? What's gonna happen in

1209
00:53:30,599 --> 00:53:34,639
the portal? So they'll definitely be looking to add more

1210
00:53:34,719 --> 00:53:38,840
depth and more explosion explosion at the tight end position.

1211
00:53:38,880 --> 00:53:41,559
And obviously Walker lines being in there, he has to

1212
00:53:41,599 --> 00:53:44,320
be the number one target for by U And you know,

1213
00:53:44,480 --> 00:53:48,079
for me, we'll see if they get him. And my my,

1214
00:53:48,079 --> 00:53:50,119
my gut tells me that they have a very very

1215
00:53:50,119 --> 00:53:52,679
good chance of getting him. So I'm gonna be watching closely.

1216
00:53:53,079 --> 00:53:55,719
Speaker 5: How would you describe Walker as a player? What is

1217
00:53:55,719 --> 00:53:56,239
he good? Ad?

1218
00:53:56,239 --> 00:53:59,360
Speaker 6: Who's a player? Comp forum and uh? And what do

1219
00:53:59,400 --> 00:54:00,440
you like your skill set?

1220
00:54:01,800 --> 00:54:04,599
Speaker 8: What I like about about Walker is is he's an

1221
00:54:04,599 --> 00:54:07,840
all He's a you know, with the new era of

1222
00:54:07,920 --> 00:54:10,760
college football and the way the game is played, you

1223
00:54:10,760 --> 00:54:12,920
have a flex guy, right, So guys like to have

1224
00:54:12,960 --> 00:54:14,880
a tight end that can flex out and go to work,

1225
00:54:15,159 --> 00:54:17,199
but also a guy who can be an inline guy

1226
00:54:17,480 --> 00:54:20,239
and and you know, and really put his hands on

1227
00:54:20,320 --> 00:54:23,079
people and block and short yard and position of situations

1228
00:54:23,159 --> 00:54:25,760
because it just makes him so much more dangerous as

1229
00:54:25,800 --> 00:54:28,920
a pass catcher than just being a flex wide out guy.

1230
00:54:29,400 --> 00:54:32,440
So if you can flex him out and still have

1231
00:54:32,559 --> 00:54:35,159
the ability to not change much on your offense, you

1232
00:54:35,159 --> 00:54:37,000
don't need to bring in a different type of player

1233
00:54:37,280 --> 00:54:39,519
where now you have a big body like Walker Lions

1234
00:54:39,519 --> 00:54:42,079
who can run and can box out a smaller nickel,

1235
00:54:42,440 --> 00:54:45,679
or he's a mismatch for a backer, it does cause

1236
00:54:46,039 --> 00:54:50,199
a lot of issues. So Walker is all around tight

1237
00:54:50,320 --> 00:54:52,480
end who can play in line and he can also

1238
00:54:52,519 --> 00:54:55,599
more importantly flex out and go to work. He's got

1239
00:54:55,639 --> 00:54:58,840
great top in speed, he's physical at the point of attack,

1240
00:54:59,639 --> 00:55:01,599
and more importantly, he sits in the locker room in

1241
00:55:01,639 --> 00:55:03,280
the culture. And that's one of the biggest things that

1242
00:55:03,320 --> 00:55:06,320
Buyu was always looking to do is bring in players

1243
00:55:06,320 --> 00:55:10,559
that are you know, obviously top end talents, but also

1244
00:55:10,639 --> 00:55:13,639
they come in and they they are able to act,

1245
00:55:13,719 --> 00:55:16,760
them make quickly to the culture of Utah and the

1246
00:55:16,800 --> 00:55:20,920
culture of bringing young university. So Walker has to be,

1247
00:55:21,320 --> 00:55:24,840
you know, their number one target offensively as far as

1248
00:55:25,599 --> 00:55:27,239
tight end, I mean, I just don't know if there

1249
00:55:27,280 --> 00:55:30,519
will be someone in the portal as intriguing as him.

1250
00:55:31,480 --> 00:55:34,559
Speaker 5: Yeah, he's uh. I don't know. Did you give me

1251
00:55:34,599 --> 00:55:36,679
a player comp on him? I mean he's uh.

1252
00:55:37,119 --> 00:55:41,079
Speaker 6: I mean he's interesting, right, Like his his skill set,

1253
00:55:41,159 --> 00:55:43,159
I think, you know, I think he's around six four,

1254
00:55:44,280 --> 00:55:47,960
I think two forty. But he's got a really long wingspace,

1255
00:55:48,039 --> 00:55:49,280
got really long arms.

1256
00:55:49,920 --> 00:55:50,280
Speaker 5: Uh.

1257
00:55:50,320 --> 00:55:53,559
Speaker 6: And it seems like he can be an inline tight end,

1258
00:55:53,559 --> 00:55:55,800
he can be a flex tight end. You can split

1259
00:55:55,840 --> 00:55:59,800
him out in isolated situations towards the boundary and get

1260
00:55:59,800 --> 00:56:06,239
some nice, nice advantageous matchups versus either a linebacker or

1261
00:56:06,280 --> 00:56:07,039
a safety.

1262
00:56:07,719 --> 00:56:10,159
Speaker 5: But do you have a player comp form that you like.

1263
00:56:11,280 --> 00:56:13,480
Speaker 8: You know, he does remind me of the boy that

1264
00:56:13,559 --> 00:56:15,760
the Youths had a couple of years ago who now

1265
00:56:15,800 --> 00:56:16,880
plays for the Bills.

1266
00:56:17,239 --> 00:56:18,960
Speaker 5: He dealt Kinkaid.

1267
00:56:19,079 --> 00:56:22,320
Speaker 8: Yeah, yeah, he can be a Kincaid type. And you know,

1268
00:56:22,360 --> 00:56:24,320
a lot of people will tell me I'm going too far.

1269
00:56:24,719 --> 00:56:28,320
Obviously Kinkaid is very, very accomplished, but I think he

1270
00:56:28,360 --> 00:56:31,079
can be that type of player where Dalton was just

1271
00:56:31,639 --> 00:56:33,679
you know, there wasn't anything you couldn't ask him to

1272
00:56:33,719 --> 00:56:38,800
do and that so when you talk about about about Walker,

1273
00:56:38,920 --> 00:56:41,719
the question is what can't he do And there's not

1274
00:56:41,760 --> 00:56:43,960
a lot that he can't do. Now, what he hasn't

1275
00:56:44,000 --> 00:56:46,519
done is had at been as productive as Dulton kit

1276
00:56:46,599 --> 00:56:50,079
Kate was at the University of Utah. So time will tell.

1277
00:56:50,199 --> 00:56:52,639
But as far as he's just an all around really

1278
00:56:52,639 --> 00:56:55,679
strong player who can do everything you would ask him

1279
00:56:55,679 --> 00:56:55,920
to do.

1280
00:56:57,159 --> 00:57:00,280
Speaker 6: Well for those individuals that are listening today on this

1281
00:57:00,519 --> 00:57:04,360
beautiful Saturday edition of Cougar Sports Special Edition live from

1282
00:57:04,719 --> 00:57:07,599
our Royal Army warehouse, having a warehouse deal going on

1283
00:57:07,679 --> 00:57:10,599
right now, if they're looking to get recruited, looking to

1284
00:57:10,599 --> 00:57:13,760
get developed, right especially getting into the off season, these

1285
00:57:13,800 --> 00:57:16,440
high school football players, How can they reach you, how

1286
00:57:16,440 --> 00:57:19,159
can they develop at a higher level with you?

1287
00:57:20,239 --> 00:57:25,519
Speaker 8: Well, Tuesday night, actually from five thirty to eight thirty,

1288
00:57:25,559 --> 00:57:30,679
we will be at Designons indoor facility bringing in kids

1289
00:57:30,679 --> 00:57:32,440
that we are going to work out for our off

1290
00:57:32,440 --> 00:57:34,840
season training where we do seven on seven, but we

1291
00:57:34,880 --> 00:57:37,519
also train multiple times a week where I'm able to

1292
00:57:37,519 --> 00:57:39,760
get eyes on my kids and I'm able to film

1293
00:57:39,800 --> 00:57:42,079
them quite a bit and send it directly to coaches

1294
00:57:42,079 --> 00:57:45,079
and educate these families. But also you can follow me

1295
00:57:45,159 --> 00:57:49,119
on Twitter with Alpha Recruit at Alpha Recruits fifteen. Our

1296
00:57:49,159 --> 00:57:54,400
website is Alpha recruits dot com. Our Instagram is Alpha Recruits,

1297
00:57:54,440 --> 00:57:59,960
so you can find us through every single social media platform.

1298
00:58:00,079 --> 00:58:02,840
But also you can bring your kids out and let

1299
00:58:02,920 --> 00:58:06,079
them come show us what they're all about on Tuesday night,

1300
00:58:06,199 --> 00:58:08,719
so we can get in all a full off season

1301
00:58:08,760 --> 00:58:11,239
with them, really focusing in on the technical side of

1302
00:58:11,239 --> 00:58:14,280
playing this game and the speed development. We spend a

1303
00:58:14,320 --> 00:58:17,000
lot of time on that because it has never been

1304
00:58:17,239 --> 00:58:20,119
ever in the history of college football harder to get

1305
00:58:20,119 --> 00:58:22,920
a high school kid recruited. It's very, very, very hard.

1306
00:58:23,800 --> 00:58:25,519
It takes a lot of work, it takes a lot

1307
00:58:25,519 --> 00:58:29,039
of understanding, and it takes a very very high skill

1308
00:58:29,119 --> 00:58:31,840
set and so you have to be working at it

1309
00:58:31,880 --> 00:58:34,119
as much as you possibly can. And we have a

1310
00:58:34,159 --> 00:58:37,599
track record of developing exceptional players. We have them all

1311
00:58:37,599 --> 00:58:40,400
around the country, and we have them, you know, obviously

1312
00:58:40,920 --> 00:58:43,679
really being successful in the state of Utah. Some of

1313
00:58:43,719 --> 00:58:46,760
the players that we're discussing we've worked with personally, from

1314
00:58:46,840 --> 00:58:51,039
from Walker Lyons to Carson Ryan, to smith Snowdon to

1315
00:58:54,280 --> 00:58:56,679
the list goes on and on and on to Jacob Robinson.

1316
00:58:57,519 --> 00:59:00,719
So we have a track record of helping tops kids

1317
00:59:00,760 --> 00:59:04,199
who really have big time goals and dreams actually accomplish them.

1318
00:59:04,199 --> 00:59:06,920
So if you have a son that has those type

1319
00:59:06,960 --> 00:59:09,119
of goals and dreams, if you'll give us a chance

1320
00:59:09,159 --> 00:59:10,800
to work with them, we will be able to benefit

1321
00:59:10,920 --> 00:59:13,239
them not on the short term, but most importantly long

1322
00:59:13,320 --> 00:59:16,159
term because you work with them through their career and

1323
00:59:16,400 --> 00:59:19,400
college and give them good guidance and help them with

1324
00:59:19,440 --> 00:59:22,840
their financial piece of the business. So there's nothing we're

1325
00:59:22,880 --> 00:59:24,679
not doing now. It's a lot of fun, a lot

1326
00:59:24,679 --> 00:59:26,639
of stress, but very rewarding.

1327
00:59:27,800 --> 00:59:29,559
Speaker 6: Well, I got a stat for you here before I

1328
00:59:29,599 --> 00:59:31,400
let you go, and you can give this over to

1329
00:59:31,880 --> 00:59:34,360
our boys, Jacob Robinson. So he's tenth all time in

1330
00:59:34,400 --> 00:59:36,400
I and t's and BWA football history. It kind of

1331
00:59:36,440 --> 00:59:39,039
leans into what we were talking about, and that's like

1332
00:59:39,079 --> 00:59:42,360
those first few questions about biggest biggest impact from a

1333
00:59:42,360 --> 00:59:45,360
transfer portal play. Tenth all time in BWA football history.

1334
00:59:45,599 --> 00:59:48,639
In I and T's, he's eleventh all time in past

1335
00:59:48,679 --> 00:59:52,119
breakups at twenty one, he's eightieth all time and tackles right,

1336
00:59:52,159 --> 00:59:54,960
the corners don't get as many tackles available to them,

1337
00:59:55,199 --> 00:59:55,679
et cetera.

1338
00:59:56,440 --> 00:59:59,639
Speaker 5: But Matt pretty pretty impressive, man.

1339
00:59:59,719 --> 01:00:02,000
Speaker 6: He's essentially top ten and PDUs and I n t's

1340
01:00:02,039 --> 01:00:03,159
and BWIE football history.

1341
01:00:04,159 --> 01:00:06,840
Speaker 8: Yeah, I mean, he did a lot of great things.

1342
01:00:06,840 --> 01:00:09,599
And and the other thing is people forget about his ribility.

1343
01:00:09,679 --> 01:00:11,519
I mean, I mean, if you look at how many

1344
01:00:11,599 --> 01:00:14,039
games he played, I mean, you know, I mean, anyone

1345
01:00:14,039 --> 01:00:16,280
who plays as many snaps as he plays and doesn't

1346
01:00:16,320 --> 01:00:19,880
really miss games realizes that he's very durable and tough,

1347
01:00:19,960 --> 01:00:22,000
that he was playing through, you know, a lot of

1348
01:00:22,039 --> 01:00:25,280
injury and was still able to be super effective. So

1349
01:00:25,360 --> 01:00:27,119
I will pass that on. We need to get him

1350
01:00:27,159 --> 01:00:28,679
on talking with you guys so you can see what

1351
01:00:28,679 --> 01:00:31,159
he's doing. You know, he's with the Niners. Yeah he

1352
01:00:31,199 --> 01:00:35,000
had an injury, really yeah, first major injury. But he

1353
01:00:35,079 --> 01:00:37,519
is with the Niners on the i R. They love

1354
01:00:37,599 --> 01:00:39,119
him quite a bit, and I think he's gonna have

1355
01:00:39,119 --> 01:00:40,760
a very good NFL career.

1356
01:00:41,519 --> 01:00:44,719
Speaker 6: Big Fanny, Jacob Robinson and I can't wait to see

1357
01:00:44,719 --> 01:00:46,400
what we can do in the NFL. Will We appreciate

1358
01:00:46,400 --> 01:00:50,039
you loving and just appreciate your your time and insight,

1359
01:00:50,159 --> 01:00:51,880
great content, great commentary.

1360
01:00:51,880 --> 01:00:53,119
Speaker 5: Thanks so much for joining us today.

1361
01:00:53,920 --> 01:00:56,039
Speaker 8: Thank you, Ben, and good luck today. I hope the

1362
01:00:56,079 --> 01:00:59,960
Truger fans get all the best products in the world,

1363
01:01:00,679 --> 01:01:01,639
get to the warehouse.

1364
01:01:01,960 --> 01:01:04,320
Speaker 5: I'll say this much. Will you look so?

1365
01:01:04,880 --> 01:01:08,039
Speaker 6: You look so much better in royal blue than you

1366
01:01:08,079 --> 01:01:12,559
do on red. I mean, I like people see you

1367
01:01:12,599 --> 01:01:13,079
in public.

1368
01:01:13,119 --> 01:01:15,360
Speaker 5: Man, I'll get texts, you know, when you're at high

1369
01:01:15,360 --> 01:01:19,400
school football games and like, uh, Will's and red, and

1370
01:01:19,719 --> 01:01:22,360
I might like, he looks like he looks dumb, he

1371
01:01:22,400 --> 01:01:24,440
looks horrible in that red. Now I'll tell you what

1372
01:01:24,559 --> 01:01:25,239
like look he looks.

1373
01:01:25,360 --> 01:01:29,519
Speaker 6: So you're your your your skin complexion, your your your

1374
01:01:29,559 --> 01:01:31,280
body type, you know everything.

1375
01:01:31,320 --> 01:01:33,280
Speaker 5: You look so much better royal blue. Don't even get

1376
01:01:33,280 --> 01:01:35,280
it twisted. Don't lie to me. I already know the truth.

1377
01:01:36,400 --> 01:01:38,519
Speaker 8: Listen. You know, at the end of the day, you

1378
01:01:38,519 --> 01:01:40,639
have a young you have some young tykes running around

1379
01:01:40,800 --> 01:01:44,599
your school, your house right now, and and so your partner,

1380
01:01:44,719 --> 01:01:48,480
and you know, it's really easy to put on things.

1381
01:01:48,480 --> 01:01:50,480
I used to wear a lot of too with my daughter,

1382
01:01:50,880 --> 01:01:53,639
and so people can tell me I look better in

1383
01:01:53,719 --> 01:01:58,039
Royal blue, but where my kids are and support them.

1384
01:01:59,280 --> 01:02:01,679
But you know, I'm not going to argue that. I'm

1385
01:02:01,679 --> 01:02:06,159
not going to argue that. You know, I am comfortable blue,

1386
01:02:06,199 --> 01:02:08,039
but I'm comfortable on the red and the black and

1387
01:02:08,039 --> 01:02:09,599
the whine. I'll make it all work.

1388
01:02:10,360 --> 01:02:12,920
Speaker 6: You look good all the time, buddy, Appreciate you, Love you,

1389
01:02:13,039 --> 01:02:14,119
Thanks for hopping on today.

1390
01:02:14,119 --> 01:02:16,400
Speaker 8: Will you guys have a great day. You guys do

1391
01:02:16,440 --> 01:02:16,840
great work.

1392
01:02:16,920 --> 01:02:18,760
Speaker 5: Keep it up, hey man, appreciate you.

1393
01:02:18,800 --> 01:02:22,280
Speaker 6: Will Will Snowden Alpha recruits, contact him, get ahold of him.

1394
01:02:22,280 --> 01:02:25,559
If you're looking to get developed, to get recruited, nobody

1395
01:02:25,559 --> 01:02:28,119
does it better than Will Snowden. Thoughts commentary follow up,

1396
01:02:28,199 --> 01:02:31,000
Ronald the three Man Weaver. You're tuning into that interview

1397
01:02:31,000 --> 01:02:33,800
with Will Snowden live here by the way, we're live

1398
01:02:33,840 --> 01:02:38,239
from our Royal Army warehouse five to seven West State

1399
01:02:38,320 --> 01:02:40,400
Street here in pleasant growth. We got BYU fans showing

1400
01:02:40,440 --> 01:02:43,119
up big cooar to them. Merry Christmas. Take advantage of

1401
01:02:43,159 --> 01:02:45,079
the deals while they last. Your thoughts on the Will

1402
01:02:45,119 --> 01:02:46,599
Snowden interview, Ronnie.

1403
01:02:46,320 --> 01:02:48,840
Speaker 3: Yeah, I think the biggest thing that the takeaway was,

1404
01:02:49,079 --> 01:02:50,679
and I know a little bit about when I've had

1405
01:02:50,719 --> 01:02:53,360
the chance to develop a strong relationship. But my goodness,

1406
01:02:53,400 --> 01:02:57,400
Ben didn't know he negotiated that many contracts for people,

1407
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so Stan busy, so you know, shout out to him,

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grace to him, My goodness here, Will, I did not

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know you were locking it down like that.

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Speaker 4: But I mean advocating for the student athletes.

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Speaker 1: Man.

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Speaker 3: You know, he's worked with the likes of you know,

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Walker Lyons, Carson, Ryan Jacob Robinson obviously, and look, I

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01:03:13,119 --> 01:03:15,480
agree with the take you know, I like Jack and

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01:03:15,519 --> 01:03:18,559
what he's done, but Jake Jacob Robinson is probably the

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01:03:18,880 --> 01:03:20,960
well and it's been correct me wrong. I didn't know

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01:03:21,000 --> 01:03:23,400
what his star rating is, but was at Utah State.

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No one ever thought he would be a guy that

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could play at the next level. And look, and We'll

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just said you gotta get him on. So maybe once

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01:03:29,159 --> 01:03:30,960
in the next two or three weeks and once playoffs

1422
01:03:31,000 --> 01:03:32,559
are over and things, and depending on that, we need

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to get Jacob Robinson on the show.

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Speaker 4: But that's probably one of the best.

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01:03:35,800 --> 01:03:37,679
Speaker 3: I mean, look, if you if you were gonna continue

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to bring a high level cornerback talent, guys from across

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01:03:40,519 --> 01:03:44,360
the world, East Coast, from Texas, from California, it's gonna

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01:03:44,360 --> 01:03:46,000
point to Jay rob being in the league from a

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guy that you know came in and you know what

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he can make of it and then just took a

1431
01:03:50,039 --> 01:03:52,159
tremendous leap and jump in And it's all because of

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01:03:52,440 --> 01:03:54,599
you know, will and working with that. I remember when

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Jacob came in, he had the two interceptions against Georgia Southern,

1434
01:03:57,719 --> 01:04:00,239
remember that back on the Tyler Erragy days, And I said,

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could he you know, skyrocket and then he just took

1436
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off and shot at the j Rob man. Look, it's

1437
01:04:06,360 --> 01:04:08,440
gonna be tough to fill those shoes. But I will

1438
01:04:08,480 --> 01:04:11,599
say this, whoever wears the number zero at BYU on

1439
01:04:11,639 --> 01:04:14,400
the defensive side since Jacob has been making play so

1440
01:04:14,480 --> 01:04:17,719
Schmev has done it and Jacob did it, so it

1441
01:04:17,719 --> 01:04:19,880
seems like that number zero on the defensive side is

1442
01:04:19,920 --> 01:04:22,039
the way to do it. But no, Ben I just

1443
01:04:22,079 --> 01:04:24,400
think that that's the biggest thing that I took away

1444
01:04:24,440 --> 01:04:28,000
as j Rob is probably the best transfer to come

1445
01:04:28,000 --> 01:04:29,960
in through BYU one of the best defensive players. You

1446
01:04:30,000 --> 01:04:32,199
got a multitude of other people you can name and

1447
01:04:32,239 --> 01:04:35,440
then look if the guys working with Will. I always

1448
01:04:35,519 --> 01:04:37,400
want to ask Will this, but I don't. But I

1449
01:04:37,400 --> 01:04:40,159
have the conversation with you. It's still be nice. You say,

1450
01:04:40,199 --> 01:04:43,039
Will doesn't look good in red? You don't look good?

1451
01:04:43,079 --> 01:04:43,920
Speaker 4: Can I Can I tell you this?

1452
01:04:44,039 --> 01:04:46,079
Speaker 3: Neither of the smith Snowden would love to see him

1453
01:04:46,079 --> 01:04:48,599
in blue. You know, I know you're laughing at that.

1454
01:04:49,639 --> 01:04:51,840
None of the Snoded family looks good in red. They

1455
01:04:51,880 --> 01:04:54,760
all sho wear blue. So that's kind of my joke

1456
01:04:54,800 --> 01:04:58,760
with that, you know. But you know you have wishes

1457
01:04:58,800 --> 01:05:00,639
that don't come true. I put that wish in the

1458
01:05:00,639 --> 01:05:03,199
Santa multiple times and he hasn't responded yet.

1459
01:05:03,239 --> 01:05:06,960
Speaker 5: So, yeah, I don't know if that's gonna happen. You

1460
01:05:07,480 --> 01:05:09,400
always hope, you pray you could do it, but.

1461
01:05:09,679 --> 01:05:12,440
Speaker 4: I've sworn too much over the airway. Santa said, no, Yeah.

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01:05:12,239 --> 01:05:13,920
Speaker 5: I don't think. So, I don't think it's gonna happen.

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01:05:14,079 --> 01:05:14,760
Not gonna happen.

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01:05:14,800 --> 01:05:19,000
Speaker 6: Guys, we're live from our Royal Army Warehouse sale and

1465
01:05:19,400 --> 01:05:22,599
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1466
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01:05:24,159 --> 01:05:26,320
Speaker 5: Fans for fans. Stay loyal to the Royal rep the

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01:05:26,320 --> 01:05:27,000
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That's Royal Army dot Com here in Pleasant Grove, five

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01:05:33,159 --> 01:05:36,559
to seven West State Street. Five to two seven West

1472
01:05:36,559 --> 01:05:39,599
State Street in Pleasant Grove. Stay loyal, strong and true

1473
01:05:39,639 --> 01:05:42,199
where the White and Blue, and come and take advantage

1474
01:05:42,239 --> 01:05:44,639
of the deals going on right now at our Royal

1475
01:05:44,920 --> 01:05:47,840
Army Warehouse. Shout out to the Cougar fans showing up,

1476
01:05:47,840 --> 01:05:49,679
showing out. We'll take a brief time out. Let's get

1477
01:05:49,679 --> 01:05:53,119
to a j to Bonsa's comments postgame as well as

1478
01:05:53,440 --> 01:05:57,519
the comments from the top King Richie Saunders. Apparently Richie

1479
01:05:57,559 --> 01:06:01,400
was throwing shade and Richie and Dawson Baker for their

1480
01:06:01,440 --> 01:06:02,559
inability to dunk.

1481
01:06:03,159 --> 01:06:05,800
Speaker 5: White man can't jump is what he said.

1482
01:06:05,840 --> 01:06:07,800
Speaker 6: No, I'm kidding, he didn't say that, but let's get

1483
01:06:07,840 --> 01:06:11,400
into it. On the flip side. Recap this victory last

1484
01:06:11,480 --> 01:06:14,280
night over Abilene Christian That and more here on your

1485
01:06:14,440 --> 01:06:18,000
Utah ESPN Radio Network one o three nine ninety eight

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01:06:18,039 --> 01:06:19,000
point three ESPN,