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Speaker 3: Welcome to the Occult Rejects. In this episode we will
Speaker 3: be talking about and it will probably end up being a.
Speaker 2: Two to three part series.
Speaker 3: We will be covering Jamatria, numerology, and ciphers. I think
Speaker 3: they're all interesting and I you know, I've had a
Speaker 3: lot of people ask about Jamatria because of the Gilgo
Speaker 3: Beach basically and some other things that I've kind of
Speaker 3: went heavy in with the numbers. Some listeners and some
Speaker 3: people who watch the videos like literally don't even know
Speaker 3: like where this is coming from. So I thought, you know,
Speaker 3: this would actually be a good series. I think, to
Speaker 3: do a basic kind of understanding and I think a
Speaker 3: little bit of like history class in a sense. I
Speaker 3: do think we're also going to show people that were
Speaker 3: kind of involved with numbers and letters that were kind
Speaker 3: of I mean my opinion, you don't really hear anybody
Speaker 3: talking about them, but yet they seem to have been
Speaker 3: pretty important or had an impact with the way the
Speaker 3: world is now. So yeah, influential for sure. Really the
Speaker 3: best way to put it. They're influential people, and I
Speaker 3: just thought it'd be interesting kind of like to bring
Speaker 3: them up because sometimes I do think, you know, you
Speaker 3: will come across to people who were a little bit
Speaker 3: when it comes to the numbers stuff, they kind of whatever,
Speaker 3: blow it off, don't take it as to I guess
Speaker 3: they think it's bullshit, basically the best way to put it,
Speaker 3: you know, trying to be nice and think of a
Speaker 3: nice way, but a lot of people tend to blow
Speaker 3: off the numbers stuff. And I mean, after this, I
Speaker 3: would just say, like I think it's actually made an
Speaker 3: impact in our world, you know, stuff with numbers, letters
Speaker 3: and scipher and yeah, so I figured this would be
Speaker 3: something that'd be kind of educational, and I think it
Speaker 3: was interesting for me to cover.
Speaker 2: Actually tell you the truth. So I guess here we go.
Speaker 3: And you know, some of the reasons I was even
Speaker 3: wanted to cover this and bring this up is because
Speaker 3: you know, there is a lot of just in regular magic,
Speaker 3: getting into planetary magic, getting into kabbala, you will start
Speaker 3: getting into like numbers and planetary sigils, planetary squares. You
Speaker 3: have tarot cards that has letters on them which will
Speaker 3: have a numeric value because they're in Hebrew. So just
Speaker 3: an even like basic stuff that comes with magic that
Speaker 3: I would assume most people kind of know of. Maybe
Speaker 3: they don't know what's behind it and creating it, but
Speaker 3: I just figured i'd kind of like, you know.
Speaker 2: Show some stuff as well.
Speaker 3: How there is like already basic stuff with numbers and
Speaker 3: letters in magic that most people know about it already,
Speaker 3: you know, like the planetary squares, you know, and I'm
Speaker 3: showing them here. We have Saturn, we got Jupiter. Depending
Speaker 3: now on the tree of life, Saturn will fall on
Speaker 3: the third sphere. I'm assuming this is correlation with the
Speaker 3: planetary magic. That square will be a three by three,
Speaker 3: and then Jupiter's on the fourth sphere and that square
Speaker 3: will be four by four. The numbers are rearranged to
Speaker 3: match a specific amount of value no matter which way
Speaker 3: you go. So like the sixth and the seven you'll
Speaker 3: get thirteen. Then that will be fifteen, and then you'd
Speaker 3: get the same thing. The eight and the three would
Speaker 3: be eleven plus the four that would be fifteen. So
Speaker 3: you're getting it.
Speaker 2: Has to also work that way.
Speaker 3: There's plenty there's a few other ways of doing it,
Speaker 3: Like it could still equal the amount of value, but
Speaker 3: you could still rearrange them. I'll be mentioning that later on.
Speaker 3: I do think there is ways of doing that, but
Speaker 3: you know, this is how it's done. There could be
Speaker 3: other ways of doing it, rearrange from the numbers, but
Speaker 3: then that would be changing the whole thing. So like
Speaker 3: even the planet. You know a lot of sigils basically
Speaker 3: that even are possibly used and thrown out of our
Speaker 3: faces could come from something like this, and like the
Speaker 3: way that you would use the sigils, Like I guess,
Speaker 3: like if I wanted to use the energy of Saturn,
Speaker 3: I'll Actually, I'll go with Jupiter. I wanted to use
Speaker 3: the energy of Jupiter, I could create like a name
Speaker 3: of something or whatever I wanted to make a sigil for.
Speaker 3: I am now going to put those letters and match
Speaker 3: it on that square. So like, even though you're seeing
Speaker 3: that sigil right there for Jupiter, you could be designing
Speaker 3: your own thing inside that square that is associated with Jupiter.
Speaker 3: So like you don't have to see that sigil.
Speaker 2: It could be.
Speaker 3: Something that I somebody else or something. Whoever designed you
Speaker 3: actually probably wouldn't know what the hell it is. Oh wow, Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 3: that's see, that's like a thing. That's why I think
Speaker 3: it's kind of important because I don't think people, like
Speaker 3: a lot of people understand like a lot of sigils
Speaker 3: are actually due to numbers and the value of the letters,
Speaker 3: and you know, equaling those numbers that's crazy. So yeah,
Speaker 3: that's why I'm like, if if you're believe that sigils
Speaker 3: and all this stuff can have effect on people, then
Speaker 3: you have to a factor in the numbers.
Speaker 2: I'm sorry, because then it's I don't know how it's working.
Speaker 3: You know, here's those Then we have the Mars, and
Speaker 3: we got the Sun, and as you can see they
Speaker 3: get bigger as they go on. And uh, here's a
Speaker 3: last one for Luna. And then over here I do
Speaker 3: have I did want to show you know, when you again,
Speaker 3: when I got too taro, if you place it upon
Speaker 3: the tree of life and you use it like you know, cabalistically,
Speaker 3: then major arcana will fall on the pads, and you know,
Speaker 3: all of them kind of have a They will have
Speaker 3: a letter on the cards sometimes depending I guess you know,
Speaker 3: on the publisher whoever made the deck, but you know,
Speaker 3: the fool would go with aliph meaning ox, and that
Speaker 3: could be h you know, primal energy. Then it will
Speaker 3: also have numerical value to it as well. So I
Speaker 3: you know, when these letters are thrown on tarot cards,
Speaker 3: as you're seeing right here, you know, even though that's
Speaker 3: a letter, magically there is some sort of number of
Speaker 3: value equated to that. So I just wanted to show
Speaker 3: that that, like you know, even on taro and sigils
Speaker 3: and stuff like that, in my opinion, there is I mean,
Speaker 3: even the tarot cards are numbered in a specific right
Speaker 3: for certain things, right, you know, so like numbers are
Speaker 3: even a factor in this, you know, something to think about.
Speaker 2: Uh, And then I wanted.
Speaker 3: I guess kind of like he was gonna show some
Speaker 3: history on uh on like you know, I guess magical
Speaker 3: squares and stuff. Before I get to that, actually, I
Speaker 3: am going to read off some like I guess kind
Speaker 3: of like other magicians are other people their word on
Speaker 3: jamachi or their opinion on Jamcha, stuff like that. I
Speaker 3: was going to cover some stuff by Crowley, but honestly,
Speaker 3: like you could just go to his his first his
Speaker 3: book seven seven seven has a chapter in the beginning
Speaker 3: just dedicated to Jamatria. The Book of Lies commentary focuses
Speaker 3: heavily on Jamachria being a focus for the chapters and
Speaker 3: either the name or the chapter number or both.
Speaker 2: Uh.
Speaker 3: He also has there is cephyr sepher Oath and that
Speaker 3: you can get in like the Equinox volume one, number eight,
Speaker 3: and he had a lot to say about the subject there,
Speaker 3: and even focuses on different types of jamatria uh that
Speaker 3: he used during his life. He has been openly, uh,
Speaker 3: I guess, very open about Jamatria in Numerical Valley, you know,
Speaker 3: so if anybody's interested, I would say, go check those out.
Speaker 3: But like to me, it was just like he's been
Speaker 3: so open about it. You know, I wasn't even gonna
Speaker 3: bother with with him, and believe it or not, if
Speaker 3: you start reading too much of this ship, you actually
Speaker 3: may have to worry about copyright.
Speaker 2: So just leave it there.
Speaker 3: You know, I've already had a DMCA slapped on me
Speaker 3: before from the OTO, so I'm sure you know, yeah,
Speaker 3: any other way, any other reason, Well.
Speaker 4: I have I have a quick question. So you're talking
Speaker 4: about how and I saw it how Crowley Cley, Crawley, Sorry, Crawley.
Speaker 2: People get picking on that. It's funny.
Speaker 4: Crowley extensively refers to Jamatria. Why do you think there's
Speaker 4: so much pushback?
Speaker 3: Uh, I'm just gonna say it again like I've said
Speaker 3: it a few other times, and I hate to sound
Speaker 3: like I'm not trying to be like prick about it
Speaker 3: or a dick. I think it's too hard for people
Speaker 3: to want to entertain. Like if it seems like if
Speaker 3: you're like, oh man, my brain can't wrap around this
Speaker 3: as a defense mechanism, your brain may just literally tell
Speaker 3: you it's bullshit, gotcha. I mean I do think that
Speaker 3: happens a lot. I mean, that's happened to me. I
Speaker 3: wouldn't entertain thoughts and ideas of things, because I just
Speaker 3: thought it was complete silliness, you know. And then like
Speaker 3: sometimes when you're just like maybe you're not feeling as
Speaker 3: biased anymore, you might take a look at something and
Speaker 3: be like, oh shit, look at this. Wow, there's some
Speaker 3: you know, gems in here. They're like, well, but before
Speaker 3: my mind was telling me it didn't make sense.
Speaker 4: Yeah.
Speaker 2: Uh. But Blovotsky has said some things.
Speaker 3: The transcendental methods of the Kabbala must not be mentioned
Speaker 3: in public work. But it's various systems of arithmetical and sorry,
Speaker 3: geometrical ways of unriddling. Certain symbols may be described. I'm
Speaker 3: just letting people know there is some words in here.
Speaker 3: I'm sure I'm going to screw them up. Please, you know,
Speaker 3: just deal with it.
Speaker 2: Sorry.
Speaker 3: The Zohar methods of calculation, with their three sections, the Jamatria,
Speaker 3: the notoracan, and the tomorra, also the Alba and Algath,
Speaker 3: are extremely difficult to practice. We refer those who will
Speaker 3: learn more to Cornelius Agrippa's work. Somebody will mention a
Speaker 3: few times, but none of those systems can ever be
Speaker 3: understood unless a cabbalyst becomes a real master in his science.
Speaker 3: This symbolism of Pythagoras requires still more ardious labor. His
Speaker 3: symbols are very numerous, and to comprehend even the general
Speaker 3: gist of his abtruse doctrines from his symbology would necessitate
Speaker 3: nesitate years of study.
Speaker 4: So you really like him? Did she?
Speaker 3: You know, she may have liked this stuff, but it
Speaker 3: was just like, maybe this is too far advanced.
Speaker 2: I don't know.
Speaker 3: I mean, the thing is is that, as you'll see,
Speaker 3: I mean, some of the people we're going to talk
Speaker 3: about in the other episodes, I mean they're either like he,
Speaker 3: Cornelius Agrippa was like a student of or people were
Speaker 3: student of him. So, I mean, regardless, a lot of
Speaker 3: these people were influenced by stuff that him and other
Speaker 3: people around him were covering in occultism and ciphers and
Speaker 3: numerology and even just translating texts. You know, there's things.
Speaker 3: I think we'll get into it later on. I think
Speaker 3: like they started translating texts almost because of using numerical
Speaker 3: value in a sense.
Speaker 4: Yeah yeah, I.
Speaker 3: Mean yeah, yeah, So I got off on a tangent desk. No,
Speaker 3: it's all right, Yeah, we refer those who would learn
Speaker 3: more Yeah, The symbolism of numbers in their mathematical interrelations
Speaker 3: is also one of the branches of magic, especially of
Speaker 3: mental magic, divination and correct perception in clair voyants. Systems differ,
Speaker 3: but the root ideas everywhere the same, As shown in
Speaker 3: the Royal Masonic Cyclopedia by Kenneth R. H. Mackenzie, one
Speaker 3: system adopts unity, another trinity, a third quinquinity. Again we
Speaker 3: have sexagons, heptagons, novums, dudecimals, and so on, until the
Speaker 3: mind is lost in the survey of the materials alone
Speaker 3: of a science of numbers.
Speaker 2: Basically say, you'll lose your mind in that shit too.
Speaker 3: Every letter has its equivalent in other languages, and its
Speaker 3: equivalent in a figure or figures of the calculation table.
Speaker 2: It has also numerous other.
Speaker 3: Significations which depend upon the special idiosyncrasies and characteristics of
Speaker 3: the person, object or object to be studied. Kabbala calls
Speaker 3: the Hebrew alphabet the letters of the angels, which are
Speaker 3: communicated to the patriarchs.
Speaker 2: Just as the I don't know how to say this
Speaker 2: too well.
Speaker 3: Devonaughori was to the races by the divas. The Chaldeans
Speaker 3: found their letters traced in the sky by the yet
Speaker 3: unsettled stars and comets, says the Book of Numbers, while
Speaker 3: the Phoenicians had a sacred alphabet formed by the twistings
Speaker 3: of the sacred serpents. The power and potency of numbers
Speaker 3: and characters are well known to many Western occultists as
Speaker 3: being compounded from all these systems, but are still unknown
Speaker 3: to Hindus Hindu students, if not to their occultists. In
Speaker 3: their turn, European kab cabalists are generally ignorant of the
Speaker 3: alphabetical secrets of Indian esoterrorism. At the same time, the
Speaker 3: general reader in the West knows nothing of either, least
Speaker 3: of all how deep are the traces left by the
Speaker 3: esoteric numeral systems of the world. In the Christian churches.
Speaker 3: The Kabbalistic jomatia is arithmetical, not geometrical. It is one
Speaker 3: of the methods for extracting the hidden meanings from letters, words,
Speaker 3: and sentences. It consists in applying to the letters of
Speaker 3: a word the sense they bear as numbers in outward
Speaker 3: shape as well as in their individual sense. All beings,
Speaker 3: from the first divine emanation or God manifested down to
Speaker 3: the lowest atomic existence have their particular number, which distinguishes
Speaker 3: each of them and becomes the source of their attributes
Speaker 3: and qualities of their destiny. Chance, as taught by Cornelius Agrippa,
Speaker 3: is in reality only an unknown progression and time, but
Speaker 3: a succession of numbers. And then I have a chick
Speaker 3: and tabitha cicero that are kind of like surrounded with
Speaker 3: the golden Dorn or hermetic odor, the golden Dorn, and.
Speaker 2: Stuff like that.
Speaker 3: Jamatria, the Kabbalistic numerology of Hebrew letters, is the lifeblood
Speaker 3: of the Western mystery tradition. It is a system for
Speaker 3: investigating Hebrew words and names and learning their secret sense
Speaker 3: by examining the numerical value of the letters of the
Speaker 3: Hebrew alphabet, which Israel regarding called the alphabet of the Angels.
Speaker 3: This system relies on the fact that Hebrew is an
Speaker 3: alphabet in which letters stand for numbers, For there are
Speaker 3: no separate symbols for numbers. Words which have the same
Speaker 3: numerical value are often thought to have a significant relationship.
Speaker 3: And that is something I have said, I think multiple times,
Speaker 3: and I think other people have even said out on
Speaker 3: my show who are into Jamatria, they just.
Speaker 2: Assume it works like that, But.
Speaker 3: The ancient Hebrews devised several methods for using these letter
Speaker 3: of values to encode layers of special meaning into their
Speaker 3: sacred texts and mystical teachings. Thus, the literal Kabbala, which
Speaker 3: specialized in using these techniques to interpret Hebrew scriptures, came
Speaker 3: into being. In addition to straightforward jamatria, the literal kabbala
Speaker 3: includes the more complex techniques of nodokan creating and unraveling acronyms,
Speaker 3: and toomorra, transposing letters in a manner similar to cryptography
Speaker 3: to ascribe and uncover the hidden import of words. That's
Speaker 3: like even another thing. I mean, even jamatri behind it,
Speaker 3: like when we get into tomorrow. To me, I mean,
Speaker 3: that's kind of like making ciphers a basic cipher maker,
Speaker 3: that's all it is, which is really weird. Wow, you know,
Speaker 3: I mean when you you even came across it, Yeah,
Speaker 3: isn't that how you looked at it? I think that's
Speaker 3: what kind of spread it. That's kind of what God
Speaker 3: is into looking into the ciphers.
Speaker 4: Really, I think so, yeah, because it was it almost
Speaker 4: is pervasive throughout the ciphering.
Speaker 3: Yeah, and like even when you look into that form.
Speaker 3: I mean it's even taken as like a cipher really it's.
Speaker 4: Yeah, And as we say, it's gonna it's all secret
Speaker 4: societies and they're wanting to protect it, you know, and
Speaker 4: only have certain people see certain things, so you're gonna
Speaker 4: see the ciphering all all throughout.
Speaker 3: So yeah, Hebrew was not the only alphabet to use
Speaker 3: numeral value of letters to decipher the mystical meaning of words.
Speaker 3: Greek has also been used by the Western mystery tradition
Speaker 3: for this purpose.
Speaker 2: I so how do you say this one?
Speaker 4: So it's I have in trouble with it too? Is
Speaker 4: isops us isops for us?
Speaker 2: Something like that?
Speaker 3: Or Greek jamachia, as it is often called, relies on
Speaker 3: even greater range of numerical letter values. However, its use
Speaker 3: in esoteric circles has never been as popular as that
Speaker 3: of Hebrew jamatia, which I would say probably, And you know,
Speaker 3: sometimes I do wonder, like, I mean, I I can
Speaker 3: get how maybe it's a little bit harder to do,
Speaker 3: but like maybe there is something to it, you know,
Speaker 3: maybe it's not as popular for a reason, you know,
Speaker 3: besides just that fact. Or is it luckily that like
Speaker 3: maybe stuff that is deeply encoded, just is a little
Speaker 3: bit harder to figure.
Speaker 4: Out how much of it is user friendly.
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, maybe that's just yeah exactly.
Speaker 3: Alisa Crowley, who is a staple in many magical libraries,
Speaker 3: plan to write a comprehensive text on Greek Jamatria, but
Speaker 3: never got around to finishing it. His notes on the
Speaker 3: subjects were later compiled and published by the Oto, but
Speaker 3: they were neither complete nor in some instances accurate. In addition,
Speaker 3: Crowley did not find Greek Jamatria as satisfying as its
Speaker 3: Hebrew counterpart. I do know near the end of his
Speaker 3: career he was much more involved in Greek jamatri than.
Speaker 2: Hebrew for sure.
Speaker 3: And then, well, since you know you brought up Agrippa before,
Speaker 3: let's get Agrippa's opinion on this stuff. Agrippa states in
Speaker 3: his Book two, chapter one, the doctrines of mathematics are
Speaker 3: so necessary too, and have such an affinity with magic,
Speaker 3: that they do profess it without them, are quite out
Speaker 3: of the way in labor in vain, and shall in
Speaker 3: no wise obtain their desired effect. Understand some of these
Speaker 3: things that I'm reading, they're coming from the fifteen hundred,
Speaker 3: So it's going to be.
Speaker 2: Like you know, this is an old book.
Speaker 3: For whatsoever things are and are done in these inferior
Speaker 3: natural virtues are all done and governed by number, weight, measure, harmony, motion,
Speaker 3: and light. Grippa states in chapter two, all things which
Speaker 3: were first made by the nature of things in its
Speaker 3: first age seem to be formed by the proportion of numbers,
Speaker 3: for this was the principal pattern in the mind of
Speaker 3: the creator. Hence, the motion of the stars and the
Speaker 3: revolution of the heaven, and the state of all things
Speaker 3: subsist by the uniting together of numbers. Numbers therefore are
Speaker 3: endowed with great and sublime virtues.
Speaker 2: Of all things that.
Speaker 3: Are and are made subsist buy and receive their virtue
Speaker 3: from numbers. For time consists of number, and all motion
Speaker 3: and action, and all things which are subject to time,
Speaker 3: Agrippa continues in book two Chapter two. And the proportions
Speaker 3: arising from numbers do bind lines and points make characters
Speaker 3: in figures, and these are proper to magical operations, the
Speaker 3: middle which is between both being appropriated by declining to
Speaker 3: the extremes, as in the use of letters. And Lastly,
Speaker 3: all species of natural things and of those things which
Speaker 3: are above nature, or joined together by certain numbers. Numbers
Speaker 3: has always a being. Yet there is one in voice,
Speaker 3: another in the proportion of them, another in the soul
Speaker 3: and reason, and another in divine things. You know, some
Speaker 3: of that may have been you know what.
Speaker 4: I like the way that they write, like they had
Speaker 4: such a grip on so many things pun intended.
Speaker 2: It was so stupid.
Speaker 3: I'm going to leave that into it's so cheesy.
Speaker 4: Thanks. But you notice how some of these things they
Speaker 4: all have three parts, like their investigation of the number,
Speaker 4: the investigation of the word, they all have three parts.
Speaker 3: Yes, three, yeah, I think three is I think that's
Speaker 3: used a lot, just like it's forming a whole sense,
Speaker 3: all right. So I just wanted to read a couple
Speaker 3: of people. Maybe some of those people you've never heard
Speaker 3: of before, maybe you have, but those are kind of
Speaker 3: people that I think have made an impact. A Grippa
Speaker 3: for sure, you know, you know. And the other ones,
Speaker 3: I think those are more of like newer kind of
Speaker 3: like schools of thought and practice as old as the
Speaker 3: things were getting into in the series. But you know,
Speaker 3: they have definitely left an impact. I think already a
Speaker 3: right in here we have the low shoe Magic square.
Speaker 3: Legends dating from as early as six fifty BCE tell
Speaker 3: the story of Low Shoe or scroll of river Low.
Speaker 3: According to the legend, there was at one time an
Speaker 3: ancient China a huge flood. While the Great King U
Speaker 3: was trying to channel the water out to sea, A
Speaker 3: turtle emerged from it with a curious pattern on its shell,
Speaker 3: a three x three grid just like the saturn sigul
Speaker 3: I was showing before, in which circular dots of numbers
Speaker 3: were arranged such that the sum of the numbers in
Speaker 3: each row column in diagonal was the same fifteen, just
Speaker 3: like saturn sigil from before. According to the legend, thereafter
Speaker 3: people were able to use this pattern in a certain
Speaker 3: way to control the river and protect themselves from floods.
Speaker 3: So that was like kind of like old.
Speaker 2: So I figured that.
Speaker 4: Was worth No, no, no, that's really good.
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's weird.
Speaker 3: Then we got this one here that I will cover
Speaker 3: magic square.
Speaker 2: How you say this?
Speaker 3: Parsha Parshavnath Temple whatever it's in India. This is a
Speaker 3: well known twelfth century four by four normal magic square
Speaker 3: inscribed on the wall of the temple.
Speaker 2: In India.
Speaker 3: This is known as the Chatisa yantra chwatiza is thirty four,
Speaker 3: and yantra means lit or device, since its magic sum
Speaker 3: is thirty four. So I guess that's how they I
Speaker 3: don't know, so they're getting that out of there. It
Speaker 3: is one of these. It is one of the three
Speaker 3: four by four hand diagonal magic squares, and is also
Speaker 3: an instance of the most perfect magic square. The study
Speaker 3: of this square led to the appreciation of pan diagonal
Speaker 3: squares by European mathematicians in the late nineteenth century. Pan
Speaker 3: diagonal squares were referred to as Nassix squares or Jane
Speaker 3: squares in older English literature.
Speaker 2: So, yeah, I thought that was all interesting, and then
Speaker 2: we have this.
Speaker 3: I thought this was kind of interesting because I think
Speaker 3: Dan Brown, you know, the writer of those books. I
Speaker 3: think like he uses this possibly in one of his
Speaker 3: books that takes off, Like I.
Speaker 4: Think it's in the Lost Symbol or something of.
Speaker 2: One of those things.
Speaker 3: I might even mention in here the order This is
Speaker 3: Albrick or Albert Albrick Durors magic square, the order normal
Speaker 3: magic square Albert Durer immortalized in his fifteen fourteen engraving
Speaker 3: Melancholia one or I.
Speaker 2: It's believed to be the first scene.
Speaker 3: In European art, the square associated with Jupiter appears as
Speaker 3: a talisman used to drive away melancholy. It is very
Speaker 3: similar to a hang To yang Hu square, which was
Speaker 3: created in China about two hundred and fifteen years before
Speaker 3: Dura's time. As with every order for normal magic square,
Speaker 3: the magic sum is thirty four, but in Dura's Endura square,
Speaker 3: this sum is also found in each of the quadrants,
Speaker 3: in the center four squares and in the corner squares,
Speaker 3: all of the four by four as well as the
Speaker 3: four contained three by three grids.
Speaker 2: And I know that.
Speaker 3: I think if you look, let me see, look at
Speaker 3: the square where this was done in fifteen fourteen. This
Speaker 3: is kind of why it brought this up before. You
Speaker 3: can rearrange the numbers if you're a gangster and if
Speaker 3: you know what you're doing. And I guess if it's
Speaker 3: even possible, I'm sure there's instance is where it's not possible.
Speaker 3: But he even set this up to where the fifteen
Speaker 3: fourteen was supposed to be there for the date that
Speaker 3: this was published.
Speaker 2: Wow.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I was like, yo, that's incredible. That's what you
Speaker 3: do when you don't have an iPhone with social media,
Speaker 3: They gonna want you figure out how to do shit
Speaker 3: like this.
Speaker 4: There was no TV, there was no iPhone.
Speaker 3: Yeah, you did shit like this just to keep yourself occupied. Probably, well,
Speaker 3: I mean to this extreme, you know, I mean a
Speaker 3: little bit more than that. But I mean, you know,
Speaker 3: I'm sure like the stuff that we look at that
Speaker 3: were just like, oh my god, that's crazy. It's like, no,
Speaker 3: that was just normal back then, where you don't have
Speaker 3: twenty million stupid things to take away your attention from
Speaker 3: other stuff.
Speaker 2: But where I left, oh oh.
Speaker 3: The sum can also be found in the four outer
Speaker 3: numbers clockwise from the corners three plus eight plus fourteen
Speaker 3: plus nine, and likewise the four counter clockwise. So I
Speaker 3: mean this thing is like, you know, all over the
Speaker 3: place with him trying to he really really went in
Speaker 3: on reaching this. The two numbers in the middle of
Speaker 3: the bottom row give the date of the engraving, like
Speaker 3: I said, fifteen fourteen. And it's been speculated that the
Speaker 3: numbers four and one bordering the publication date correspond to
Speaker 3: Door's initials d A. But if that had been his intention,
Speaker 3: he could have inverted the order of columns one in
Speaker 3: four without compromising the squares property and I thought that
Speaker 3: was like just interesting about like how this guy spent
Speaker 3: the time to even get it to work like that.
Speaker 3: And then here's this, you know, another other picture of
Speaker 3: it that's up there in the corner, and this is
Speaker 3: the uh Segrata Familiar magic square.
Speaker 2: Put that up.
Speaker 3: The passion facade of the Segrata Familiar Church in Barcelona,
Speaker 3: conceptualized by Antoni Gordie and designed by sculptor Joseph schue Barracks,
Speaker 3: features a trivial order for magic square.
Speaker 2: I love how they call it the order four magic square.
Speaker 3: The magic constant of the square is thirty three, the
Speaker 3: age of Jesus at the time of the passion.
Speaker 2: Structurally, it is very.
Speaker 3: Similar to the one that I just went over, but
Speaker 3: you know, it's different. But I wanted to include that
Speaker 3: one because they did it too equal thirty three.
Speaker 2: That was interesting. Yeah.
Speaker 3: See, I mean that's even a whole other thing just
Speaker 3: because you have a four x four square again, yeah,
Speaker 3: I mean that other one had different numerical value to it, right,
Speaker 3: So I mean it's so different, you know deep it
Speaker 3: gets crazy.
Speaker 4: With that, Yeah, it's crazy deep.
Speaker 3: And then this I just kind of wanted to show
Speaker 3: I didn't go too much into it. But I thought
Speaker 3: it was interesting that Benjamin Franklin had magic squares. He
Speaker 3: had an eight by eight and there is as supposed
Speaker 3: to be like a copy from one on the right.
Speaker 3: And then this you see his sixteen by sixteen magic square.
Speaker 3: You know this is in a July seventeen sixty eight.
Speaker 4: Another eight a.
Speaker 3: Magic square of squares Gentlemen's Magazines, July of nineteen sixty eight.
Speaker 2: So I mean, that's pretty old. And Benjamin Franklin had
Speaker 2: it all right.
Speaker 3: So jamatria Hebrew jamachria. Jamatria is the practice of assigning
Speaker 3: a numerical value to a name, word, or phrase by
Speaker 3: reading a as a number, or sometimes by using an
Speaker 3: alpha numerical cipher. The letters of the alphabets involved have
Speaker 3: standard numerical values, but a word can yield several values
Speaker 3: if a cipher.
Speaker 2: Is used, which makes sense.
Speaker 3: According to Aristotle, that word is iso ISoP isoposiphy based
Speaker 3: on the numbering of the Greek alphabet developed in the
Speaker 3: Greek city of my Letters was part of the Pythagoran tradition,
Speaker 3: which originated in the sixth century BCE. First evidence of
Speaker 3: use of Hebrew letters as numbers dates to seventy eight BCE.
Speaker 3: Jamachia is still used in Jewish culture. Similar systems have
Speaker 3: been used in other languages and cultures derived from or
Speaker 3: inspired by, either the Greek or the Hebrew jamachia, and
Speaker 3: include Arabic Abjad numerals and English jamatra. The most common
Speaker 3: form of Hebrew jamacha is used in the Talmud and Midrash,
Speaker 3: and elaborately by many post Talmutic commentators. It involves reading
Speaker 3: words and sentences as numbers, assigning numerical instead of phonetic
Speaker 3: value to each letter.
Speaker 2: Of the Hebrew alphabet.
Speaker 3: When read as numbers, they can be compared and contrasted
Speaker 3: with other words or phrases. Now, the notor rikon is
Speaker 3: a Talmudic and Kabbalistic method of deriving a word by
Speaker 3: using each of its initials or final letters to stand
Speaker 3: for another, to stand for another, or to form a
Speaker 3: sentence or idea out of the words. Now, that's when
Speaker 3: I came across this. When I was doing this for
Speaker 3: this series, I actually didn't even know that this existed,
Speaker 3: this part. And when I saw this, I remember, I
Speaker 3: think I had even told you. I was like, yo,
Speaker 3: what's really wild?
Speaker 2: Is that?
Speaker 3: Like I and it's not like trying to pot myself
Speaker 3: on the back, because like I'm sure I'm still scrolling
Speaker 3: it up anyway, like I had remember. I'm pretty sure
Speaker 3: I have even mentioned it plenty of times on this
Speaker 3: show that I have always thought that the beginning and
Speaker 3: last letter of a word can actually start like meaning
Speaker 3: stuff and showing stuff.
Speaker 2: You know.
Speaker 3: I think I've even said like it makes me even
Speaker 3: wonder like if a word itself is just like a
Speaker 3: true almost like a like a picture of something going on.
Speaker 2: It's hard to explain, but so.
Speaker 3: I thought it was weird, and you know, and that
Speaker 3: never came to mind to me until after I started
Speaker 3: having magical experiences somehow.
Speaker 2: I don't know what it was.
Speaker 3: Something when it came down to a cult symbolism and
Speaker 3: letters and numerical value and stuff like this, To me,
Speaker 3: the ending and the beginning having.
Speaker 2: A connection just made sense to me. I don't know why,
Speaker 2: but I I started.
Speaker 3: Seeing that a lot, and I think I've even mentioned
Speaker 3: it on the show. How I would love to actually
Speaker 3: try to get into it, but it would just be
Speaker 3: so complicated. But I just found it weird that like
Speaker 3: I actually came across something that I was like, oh shit,
Speaker 3: I thought that was just like one of mine silly,
Speaker 3: stupid ideas. Yeah, it was just like I was just like,
Speaker 3: oh wow, that's a little bugged out, like I came
Speaker 3: up with that idea, like I thought on my own.
Speaker 4: It's like the alpha and omega of the word, the
Speaker 4: beginning in the end.
Speaker 2: That's yeah, that's exactly.
Speaker 3: That was exactly one of the reasons why I thought too,
Speaker 3: because it seems very important, the beginning in the end.
Speaker 4: And you hear that all the time with everything, the
Speaker 4: beginning and the end, the alpha the omega, I mean,
Speaker 4: you hear it throughout like in Catholic mass and stuff
Speaker 4: like that. So that's that's interesting.
Speaker 3: The word noterikan is, if I'm saying he correctly, is
Speaker 3: borrowed from the Greek language and I don't even know
Speaker 3: how to say that, and was derided from the Latin
Speaker 3: word notarious, meaning shorthand writer. Notre Khan is one of
Speaker 3: the three ancient methods used by the Kabbalists to rearrange
Speaker 3: words and sentences. These methods were used in order to
Speaker 3: derive the esoteric substratum and deeper spiritual meaning of the
Speaker 3: words in the Bible. Notrere khan was also used in
Speaker 3: alchemy until the end of the Talmudic period. Notour khan
Speaker 3: is understood in Judaism as a common method of scripture
Speaker 3: interpretation by which the letters of individual words in the
Speaker 3: Bible text indicate the first letters of independent words. A
Speaker 3: common usage usage of notoa khan in the practice of
Speaker 3: Kabbalah is to form the sacred names of God derived
Speaker 3: from religious or biblical verses. Agalah ag la an acronym
Speaker 3: for attah gibor layalam Dunai translated you O Lord or
Speaker 3: a mighty forever is one of the most famous examples
Speaker 3: of it. And I thought I had that in here.
Speaker 3: Here we go the example of the noto ri khan
Speaker 3: a g l e a tour gibor leolam adenai. I
Speaker 3: could say that so well, because it's in the lesser
Speaker 3: ritual of the pentagram. It's even used there when you're
Speaker 3: turning to the north the same.
Speaker 2: But say a most.
Speaker 3: People will go agala, althy'll vibrate ag lah.
Speaker 2: That wasn't good enough for me.
Speaker 3: I had to actually say what each letter was for,
Speaker 3: in which there is other people who do practice it
Speaker 3: that way. There's actually a people's will have different ways
Speaker 3: of doing it. Some people think you should say it,
Speaker 3: some people whatever. There's also one like right here al
Speaker 3: ro rita a cod roche akadoltho roche ekodu screwing it
Speaker 3: up cod on. That one I really wasn't that good with.
Speaker 3: And then sometimes I would just stick with albareta. But
Speaker 3: that is like another example on that's in the hexagram ratol,
Speaker 3: you know. So there's even examples of those like used
Speaker 3: in ritual magic. So what did it include then? And
Speaker 3: then we're getting up to uh tomorrow. Yes, tomorrow is
Speaker 3: one of the three ancient methods used by cabalists to
Speaker 3: rearrange words and sentences in the Bible, and the belief
Speaker 3: that by this method they can derive the esoteric substratum
Speaker 3: and deeper spiritual meanings of the words. Tomorrow may be
Speaker 3: used to change letters in certain words to create a
Speaker 3: new meaning for biblical statement. The Hebrew alphabet is divided
Speaker 3: into two halfs of eleven letters each, the top half
Speaker 3: in its usual order from right to left and lower reversed.
Speaker 3: Various arrangements form different combinations. And that's kind of like
Speaker 3: what I started to get out of this looking into
Speaker 3: it is that you would change some of the stuff around,
Speaker 3: and then it would make a completely different cipher.
Speaker 2: Yeah, you know.
Speaker 3: So then like even if you're using it to write
Speaker 3: your own stuff, unless the cipher was still set up
Speaker 3: the same way, it wouldn't work.
Speaker 4: It's interesting that you said that the right write it
Speaker 4: from right to left, because during the Phoenician and we'll
Speaker 4: talk about it, the Phoenician alphabet, they were writing from
Speaker 4: right to left. So it's interesting they still do that.
Speaker 3: And here's just like, here's the Hebrew alphabet. I think
Speaker 3: I might have had this up before, maybe I went
Speaker 3: past it. I'll throw that up there. It does have
Speaker 3: the value. You can see the values on there if
Speaker 3: you want to take a look at that. And then yeah,
Speaker 3: here's another one, the Hebrew value. I thought this was interesting.
Speaker 3: And Aramaic third century BCE, you know, like that even
Speaker 3: had like some chart that was somebody was trying to
Speaker 3: kind of like comprise.
Speaker 4: Yeah, you know, that is interesting.
Speaker 3: And then English Dematria. Here is some of the like
Speaker 3: the values to them, the English and the Simple. I'll
Speaker 3: leave that up as I get into that.
Speaker 2: English.
Speaker 3: Kabbala refers to several different systems of mysticism related to
Speaker 3: Hermetic kabbala that interpret the letters of the English alphabet
Speaker 3: via an assigned set of numerological significances. The first system
Speaker 3: of English gematria was used by the poet John Skelton
Speaker 3: in fifteen twenty three in his poem The Garland of Laurel.
Speaker 2: Then we hear.
Speaker 3: Again the Agrippa code was used with English as well
Speaker 3: as Latin.
Speaker 2: It was.
Speaker 3: It was defined by Heinrich Grnelius Agrippa in fifteen thirty
Speaker 3: two in his work Dia culta philosopher. Agrippa based his
Speaker 3: system on the order of the classical Latin alphabet, using
Speaker 3: a ranked valuation in his isopsophy, appending the four additional
Speaker 3: letters in use at the time after Z, including J
Speaker 3: six hundred and U seven hundred, which was still considered
Speaker 3: letter variants. Agrippa was the mentor of Welsh magician John
Speaker 3: d who makes reference to the Agrippa code in thereum
Speaker 3: Xthereum sixteen of his fifteen sixty four book Monus Hieroglyphica.
Speaker 2: Something like that.
Speaker 3: So we're even going back to Cornelius Agrippa, and here
Speaker 3: is like his cipher's again fifteen thirty three, on page
Speaker 3: one forty three thirty three here I thought this was
Speaker 3: this was interesting, just real quick. The Mystic The Source
Speaker 3: eighteen eighty nine by Willis F. Whitehead. This shows English
Speaker 3: Kabbala correspondences. But I find it interesting how you have hearts, clubs,
Speaker 3: diamonds and spades. His book Monus Hieroglifica had a monadic
Speaker 3: glyph made by John d which was meant to incorporate
Speaker 3: a wide range of mystical and esoteric concepts. This complex
Speaker 3: symbol was meant to symbolize the unity of all creation,
Speaker 3: Influenced by astrological and planetary forces. D believed it held
Speaker 3: the essence of alchemical trans transformation and spiritual growth. By
Speaker 3: meditating on the monad, he thought to gain insights into
Speaker 3: hidden knowledge about the universe, transcending language barriers and tapping
Speaker 3: into a profound truths. Overall, De's intention was to encapsulate
Speaker 3: his inter connected worldview, combining elements of astrology, alchemy, mysticism,
Speaker 3: and metaphysics. And the reason I even read all of
Speaker 3: that is because I did think it was interesting that
Speaker 3: when you go and look at this thing that he
Speaker 3: had made back then, I mean to me, it does
Speaker 3: kind of have a little bit of a bafha met
Speaker 3: type of look to it. I think I just thought
Speaker 3: it was interesting to bring that up and that you
Speaker 3: know that again's going back to fifteen sixty four by
Speaker 3: John d. You know, so could he have even have
Speaker 3: had an influence with certain things? And then I, like
Speaker 3: again I mentioned before Willis F. Whitehead on English Jermacha
Speaker 3: in his book Uh, the Mystic Thesaurus, which I'll bring
Speaker 3: that back up now, and eighteen ninety nine in his
Speaker 3: book The Mystic The Source Symbols and Symbolism, The Mystery Zodiac,
Speaker 3: some relations of Zodiac, Cross and Man. Everything made to
Speaker 3: represent a thing or thought is a symbol, as letters, numbers,
Speaker 3: or characters. Every art in science has its own appropriate symbols.
Speaker 3: Every calling and profession has the same. Symbols are used
Speaker 3: to designate weights and measures. In the starry, constellations and
Speaker 3: planets are all known by their proper signs and symbols.
Speaker 3: Every letter is a symbol, and every character representing a
Speaker 3: number is a symbol. Also, symbols are born of necessity
Speaker 3: and are founded on nature and her laws. They constitute
Speaker 3: the language of the infinite and appeal especially to both
Speaker 3: mind and eye. Familiarity with symbols is essential to an education.
Speaker 3: As a knowledge of words is through speech, and as
Speaker 3: speech is expressive of thought, so or symbols. Mystic science, art,
Speaker 3: and philosophy have symbols, also, each containing within itself a
Speaker 3: soul of divine truth. In the science of number, duality
Speaker 3: exists as odd and even odd numbers, and even numbers
Speaker 3: are equally necessary to each other. Number is the language
Speaker 3: of the infinite throughout the cosmos. The science of numbers
Speaker 3: must eternally be the same all that exists. Every atom, dimension, motion, form,
Speaker 3: or manifestation is capable of being represented by and has
Speaker 3: perfect correspondence with number. The individual number of any specified
Speaker 3: ego will disclose every change of such ego's existence by
Speaker 3: the numerical action of such manner. Get deep there, and
Speaker 3: then a couple more paragraphs, and then I am done
Speaker 3: when it comes to When it comes to English, he states,
Speaker 3: the English alphabet holds everything within itself which to build
Speaker 3: a perfect kabbala. Its twenty six letters or thought symbols,
Speaker 3: correspond with half the weeks in a year and twice
Speaker 3: the points of the zodiac. By using the letters as
Speaker 3: capitals and commons major and minor sets, or formed whose
Speaker 3: sum is fifty two corresponding to the weeks of the
Speaker 3: year and the symbolic leaves of the Book of Thought.
Speaker 3: Following the above axiom, we put the letters in corresponding
Speaker 3: numbers as plainly and naturally as possible, each general column
Speaker 3: representing a season of this year with its thirteen weeks,
Speaker 3: and a suit of the book with its thirteen emblems.
Speaker 3: The twenty six major represented the zodiacal houses of the
Speaker 3: right ascension, and the twenty six minor those of the
Speaker 3: left descension. This kabbala is twofold, objective and subjective. The
Speaker 3: objective kabbala is that we have described and is an
Speaker 3: applical to all objects we may conceive as receiving divine attention,
Speaker 3: or that which is viewed by the all seeing eye
Speaker 3: of Ohm. The subjective kabbala is formed by the major symbols.
Speaker 3: The capital letters A two M are numbered, as in
Speaker 3: the objective kabbala, from one to thirteen, for the reason
Speaker 3: that love is both divine and human. The thirteen original
Speaker 3: regular and consecutive numbers also show the thirteen original regular
Speaker 3: and consecutive geometrical points to the divine plan of our
Speaker 3: Father's house, the celestial temple of the zodiac. The house
Speaker 3: thus built, is peopled by angels who ascend and descend
Speaker 3: its zodiacal arch. These angels are the seven planets, and
Speaker 3: their number being the central or pivotal number of thirteen.
Speaker 3: And also the sum of the primaries represents equilibrium. It's
Speaker 3: getting a little deep equilibrium. Being a divine principle, we
Speaker 3: next incorporate it to form a subjective kabbala, and to
Speaker 3: do so by prefixing seven ones to the number of
Speaker 3: major symbols N two T as.
Speaker 2: In column X. Not even gonna go on anymore.
Speaker 3: But like I'm sure at this point you're probably like,
Speaker 3: I really don't even understand it any Oh, this is
Speaker 3: getting confusing. So you know, I do think when it
Speaker 3: comes to even English kabbala, I do think Crole has
Speaker 3: even said it, and I have wanted it myself. I
Speaker 3: do question if the English language is actually purely based
Speaker 3: on occultism. No, I do question that, And you know,
Speaker 3: I think with stuff like that to wonder. Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 3: and now I think we're on to you and I
Speaker 3: will shut up for a while.
Speaker 4: Now, You're good. That was really good.
Speaker 2: Thank you.
Speaker 4: So across the pond in terms of you know, we're
Speaker 4: talking about Hebrews. The Greeks were kind of doing the
Speaker 4: same thing, and they were trying to look at the
Speaker 4: inner layers of words and peek beneath the surface of
Speaker 4: it all. So in Hebrew you said, the word kabala,
Speaker 4: you know, talks about receiving or it's a tradition, and
Speaker 4: it came to be used in specific Jewish mystical philosophy,
Speaker 4: and it seemed to have emerged around Spain in the
Speaker 4: twelfth century. They believe this school of thought believed in
Speaker 4: spiritual illumination from a received nosis, and they practice the
Speaker 4: technique of literal kabbala, which involved the interpretation of sacred
Speaker 4: scriptures according to number, shape, and mystical attributions of each
Speaker 4: letter in the Hebrew alphabet. So in Greek kabala is
Speaker 4: more often referred to as the literary analysis as opposed
Speaker 4: to the philosophy itself. And I think that tripped me
Speaker 4: up a lot, because I kept seeing the word kabala,
Speaker 4: and I'm like, why are they using it differently, And
Speaker 4: here it's talking about With the Greeks, kabbala is actually
Speaker 4: the technique, the practice itself, whereas in Jewish it's also
Speaker 4: the philosophy as well. So that was good that, you know,
Speaker 4: clarified that part of it. So Kabalistic philosophy became well
Speaker 4: known in Christian Europe during the Middle Ages, resulting in
Speaker 4: awareness of the Hebrew Kabbala and the belief that Jews
Speaker 4: were the original founders of the literal kabbala, or that
Speaker 4: they were the first to use letters as numbers. So
Speaker 4: this is where it gets into a little controversy because
Speaker 4: you listen to a lot of the rabbi's lecture and
Speaker 4: they talk about how the language originated with the Hebrew language,
Speaker 4: and kabala originated with the Hebrew languae, and then you
Speaker 4: read the Greek text we not the translated Greek texts,
Speaker 4: and they say, no, no, no, we started at first.
Speaker 4: And so you hear this back and forth. So I
Speaker 4: thought that was interesting, the.
Speaker 3: Little oh, especially like even in the occult community, conspiracy community.
Speaker 3: I mean, that's like the chicken in the egg. People
Speaker 3: argue that shit when we're never.
Speaker 4: There right now, right right. So they argue that the
Speaker 4: reason that the Greeks came up with it is because
Speaker 4: the Greeks invented the alphabetic numerals back in the eighth
Speaker 4: century BC. And this is where we begin to see
Speaker 4: the emergence of isopsiphy, which we'll talk about here in
Speaker 4: a bit, and it's going to lay down the framework
Speaker 4: for Greek kabala. So isoposophy or Greek kabala is the
Speaker 4: technique of calculating the numerical value of Greek words by
Speaker 4: adding the values that's been assigned to each letter. And
Speaker 4: then once you get the sum of that numerical value
Speaker 4: in the word, you look at the correlating words with
Speaker 4: the same numerical value. Is kind of like with the Jamatria,
Speaker 4: And I think the best definition that I saw was
Speaker 4: that Hebrew Damatria is Greek kabbala, so it the practice itself,
Speaker 4: not the philosophy, the practice itself. So it's considered synonymous
Speaker 4: with jamatria, and that words that share the same numerical
Speaker 4: value are viewed to be significant. And isosophy is now
Speaker 4: viewed or it's viewed as a tool because it was
Speaker 4: used as the method of divination back in the day.
Speaker 4: And this little diagram basically shows you how it assigned
Speaker 4: the alphabet to the number itself. So yeah, let me
Speaker 4: see one more thing and then we'll move on to
Speaker 4: the historical part. So in the ancient world, numerical values
Speaker 4: and letters were commonly used, and they were the standard
Speaker 4: system of numeration, as that there was no separate symbol
Speaker 4: four numbers as we see today or its practice today.
Speaker 4: Alphabetic numerology techniques and symbols were used extensively by the Greeks,
Speaker 4: insomuch that you see it in graffiti in Pompeii, and
Speaker 4: also it's discussed Greek kabbala is discussed extensively in the
Speaker 4: Marseilles Codex, which is part of the Gnostic scrolls of
Speaker 4: nag Hamadi. I think Hamdi he many something I don't
Speaker 4: know how to pronounce, not commadi. I knew it was something,
Speaker 4: by the way, not COMMODI. No, that's how you say it.
Speaker 4: I've heard it like that before. Okay, So kind of
Speaker 4: doing a little bit of background, this is kind of
Speaker 4: gonna take you through the historical record of first numbering
Speaker 4: system and then the alphabet, and then how they merged together.
Speaker 4: So while the numbering system originated with tally six, I
Speaker 4: think we all remember that part in high school back
Speaker 4: like thirty five thousand years ago or something like that,
Speaker 4: it wouldn't be until three hundred BC when the earliest
Speaker 4: evidence would be found linking a numbering system to the
Speaker 4: alphabetic system. So in three thousand b you see cuniforms
Speaker 4: in Mesopotamia which is today Iraq, and so this is
Speaker 4: where you're seeing some of the first writings of the
Speaker 4: oldest civilizations in the world appear, and you see them
Speaker 4: as ideograms or pictograms, and it's basically an object representing
Speaker 4: a symbol. Cuniform script stemmed from a system of accounting,
Speaker 4: and it was the form it was seen in the
Speaker 4: form of tokens, right, kind of like a money system,
Speaker 4: monetary system, but they were almost all associated with numbers.
Speaker 4: So while the exact date is still up for debate,
Speaker 4: it is believed that this type of script, the cuniform script,
Speaker 4: was used possibly as far back as the ninth century
Speaker 4: BC and even as late into the second century BCE,
Speaker 4: so they use it for a while. The protocuniform tablet
Speaker 4: that is up on the screen right here is from
Speaker 4: the fourth millennium BC. The middle image is a Sumerian
Speaker 4: clay tablet which is thirty five thot sorry thirty five
Speaker 4: hundred BC, and that's from the Marians that originated the
Speaker 4: sex jesimal numbering system. The base was sixty and it
Speaker 4: was passed down to the Babylonian, so I'm kind of
Speaker 4: going in order of how they And then the next
Speaker 4: script is the Cuneiform adaptation of symbols, showing that a
Speaker 4: sound had the meaning of the word. So they associated
Speaker 4: the meaning of the word as the sound of the
Speaker 4: word itself. And this is very similar to Egyptian hieroglyph
Speaker 4: hieroglyphs hieroglyphs, which is like a pictogram denoting sound and meaning.
Speaker 4: So then the Canaanite alphabet in fourteen hundred BC is
Speaker 4: the oldest known alphabet like legit alphabet, and it's Canaanite
Speaker 4: alphabet is synonymous with Phoenician, and I think Phoenician was
Speaker 4: what they used in the past, and I think they're
Speaker 4: now the literature looks like they're now using the term
Speaker 4: Canaanite alphabet, but it's coming out of Syria. Falls in
Speaker 4: line with the theory that the alphabet originated in the
Speaker 4: fertile crest, and the Phoenician alphabet is a direct continuation
Speaker 4: of this proto Kanite script. So the phonetic nature is
Speaker 4: one sound equals one symbol as you read it across
Speaker 4: and because of that, it made it attractive to other cultures,
Speaker 4: and so other languages that were being spoken by O
Speaker 4: their cultures quickly adopted the Phoenician one because it was
Speaker 4: easy to use, user friendly. So this first image is
Speaker 4: basically showing you the lineage of how the language is
Speaker 4: kind of descended from there, and that plays into the
Speaker 4: whole where we get the alphabetic numerals and how it
Speaker 4: kind of started and who started it.
Speaker 3: That X is interesting for the tau, for the tea
Speaker 3: actual with the circle you think, like the Zodiac killer.
Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean it's almost like that they were using
Speaker 4: some of the same things we see today. I think
Speaker 4: in the A. I mean we look at the you
Speaker 4: can see how the A left came to being from
Speaker 4: that script. So yeah, and then what I was mentioning
Speaker 4: to you earlier is that there was the multidirectional writing system,
Speaker 4: and that quickly they adopted the Egyptian higherglyph linear system,
Speaker 4: so they started writing across instead of just all over
Speaker 4: the place onto a tablet. And then from there you
Speaker 4: see the Egyptian influence into the Phoenicians of like adopting
Speaker 4: that linear whatever. Another thing that I thought was interesting
Speaker 4: the Egyptian influence on Phoenicians is so like the Egyptian
Speaker 4: higherglyph for water is like a wavy line, right, So
Speaker 4: the Phoenician letter mem is an M, so if you
Speaker 4: stretch out the M, it kind of looks like a
Speaker 4: wavy line. So it was almost like they were trying
Speaker 4: to give letters meaning, like show that there is a
Speaker 4: purpose to that letter itself. Same thing with like the O,
Speaker 4: the Phoenician links to the Egyptian hieroglyph for the I.
Speaker 4: So it was pretty interesting, I thought. And so just
Speaker 4: basically the Phoenician alphabet is going to give rise to
Speaker 4: your Hebrew, Aramaic, Greek, Arabic, even Sanskrit. So I thought,
Speaker 4: that's also how the influence kind of comes downward towards that. Now,
Speaker 4: moving on to eighth century BC, this is where you
Speaker 4: see evidence that the Greeks may have invented and according
Speaker 4: to the Greek Abalah, Greeks invented it the alphabetic numerals.
Speaker 4: Alphabetic numerals emerge in the eastern city of Militus in
Speaker 4: eighth BC, and at the time the ancient Greeks had
Speaker 4: like acrophonic attic system that contained the first letters used
Speaker 4: to represent the first letters of the names of numbers.
Speaker 4: So that's where you started to seeing the link up
Speaker 4: that you had all of these like coinage or whatever
Speaker 4: for accounting, and then you have the alphabet. And then
Speaker 4: you see in my ladas and my leadas is I
Speaker 4: think I'm saying that right my lettas to city, you
Speaker 4: start to see that merging together of the alphabet and
Speaker 4: the numbers itself. So that system that they had was
Speaker 4: going to be was then replaced by the alphabetic system
Speaker 4: the signs numerical values to the actual letters of the alphabet.
Speaker 4: And this is where you see the Greeks adopt the
Speaker 4: script from the Phoenicians. And that's why I included about
Speaker 4: the Phoenicians. How okay, So the Greeks are the ones
Speaker 4: that supposedly invented the alphabetic numerals, but it was from
Speaker 4: the Phoenicians, so they grabbed that alphabet from and they
Speaker 4: were the ones. Greeks were the ones that added vowels
Speaker 4: to the alphabet from Phoenician. Phoenician did not have vowels
Speaker 4: at the time, it lacked it, so that that was
Speaker 4: also another edition. In that part, there was also a
Speaker 4: write up about there was a legend how the alphabet
Speaker 4: or was linked to Hermes, because I guess Hermes saw
Speaker 4: a formation a V formation of cranes flying, and so
Speaker 4: he associated similar shapes could be used to represent sounds
Speaker 4: which invoke the angular characteristics of the alphabet. And I
Speaker 4: believe Hermes would be Toath in Egypt, right, And so
Speaker 4: it kind of falls in line because I believe it's
Speaker 4: Toath who is accredited with the invention of writing ibis. Yeah,
Speaker 4: and then you have the cranes ibis. You know, that
Speaker 4: was pretty I thought that was pretty interesting on that one.
Speaker 4: And then obviously, like I mentioned earlier, the Greeks wrote
Speaker 4: from right to left, just like the Phoenicians. The Phoenicians
Speaker 4: were the ones that did the linear script writing from
Speaker 4: right to left, and then at some point they switch
Speaker 4: over from left to right. Also on the far end
Speaker 4: the images. So numerical words also appear to have existed
Speaker 4: among the Babylonians, insomuch that during the reign of Sargon
Speaker 4: the Second, which is like seven hundred BC, Assyrianis inscriptions
Speaker 4: were commissioned by Sargon the Second declaring and I quote
Speaker 4: the king built the wall of Corusbad sixteen two hundred
Speaker 4: and eighty three cubits long to correspond with the numerical
Speaker 4: value of his name. So you were seen even stub
Speaker 4: inscriptions being written on walls that were associating kind of
Speaker 4: like in a gematrius sense, words that had power or
Speaker 4: showed numerical power. So yeah, six hundred BC. Now you
Speaker 4: have Pythagoras influence. So the practice of using alphabetical letters
Speaker 4: to represent numbers first started in the Greek city of
Speaker 4: my Leis, like I said earlier, in Ionia, which is
Speaker 4: today Anatolia, Turkey. The system of writing numbers by u
Speaker 4: using letters would later be called isosophy. Aristotle would later
Speaker 4: write that isosophy dated back to when the Milesian numbering
Speaker 4: letters of the Greek alphabet notated as numbers predominate around
Speaker 4: sixth century to third century BC. Fun fact, the Ionian
Speaker 4: school of philosophy was attempted is basically where scientific inquiry started,
Speaker 4: like the whole scientific method and everything, and they were
Speaker 4: trying to attempt to explain it non supernaturally, like you know,
Speaker 4: the universe or something. So I thought that was so
Speaker 4: you're seeing a lot of big minds coming up with
Speaker 4: things in that area. Aristotle also wrote that the Pythagorean
Speaker 4: tradition practiced isosophy which has now come to be known
Speaker 4: as a Greek predecessor to the Greek kabbala or and
Speaker 4: Hebrew Gematria. The use of this Greek alphabetic system shows
Speaker 4: up in every work written in the ancient alphabets Greek, Arabic, Hebrew,
Speaker 4: with a numerical scene magnificance, so that each letter could
Speaker 4: be added from a single number, so it's like pebble counting.
Speaker 4: So these images that I have up here, that's an
Speaker 4: example of isosophy of how they assigned the actual number
Speaker 4: to the letter itself. The next image is example of
Speaker 4: how the Greek, Hebrew and Coptic copetic alphabet line Coptic
Speaker 4: line up with corresponding numbers. And that's the first evidence
Speaker 4: where you see the correlation of words with a numerical value.
Speaker 4: And then the last one is a headstone of found
Speaker 4: in the Temple of Artemis in Sparta, and that has
Speaker 4: isosophy all over it written on it. So deviating just
Speaker 4: a little bit, I wanted to spend a little bit
Speaker 4: of time talking about Pythagoras because I feel like his
Speaker 4: philosophy and his practices and his teachings pretty much laid
Speaker 4: the groundwork for all of this. Either ciphering or creating
Speaker 4: of the alpha alphabetic numerals and so forth, and you
Speaker 4: see how his influence influenced all the other philosophers there
Speaker 4: on out. So Pythagoras was while no authentic and this
Speaker 4: was another thing that I found was weird. There's no
Speaker 4: authentic writings that have survived of Pythagoras. So it's like,
Speaker 4: that's weird because you know, like with Jesus, No, he
Speaker 4: didn't write anything down, everyone else wrote it for him.
Speaker 4: I thought that was similar. What is known is his
Speaker 4: mathematical achievement, which we get the pythagoraing theorem, as well
Speaker 4: as his discovery that music and math had I'm sorry,
Speaker 4: the music had math foundations. And he discovered music intervals.
Speaker 4: And he also invented the monochord, which is that instrument
Speaker 4: there on the corner, and it's basically one string across
Speaker 4: a device and you can play it different whatever, and
Speaker 4: it gives you different ranges of sound. True Aristotle, we
Speaker 4: read that Pythagoras or Pythagoreans were the first to take
Speaker 4: up mathematics advance a subject, and they believed that the
Speaker 4: principles of mathematics were the principles of all things and
Speaker 4: used math for solely mystical reasons, believing all things were
Speaker 4: made of of numbers, which kind of reminds me of
Speaker 4: what you said with those quotes. Pythagoras believed that numbers
Speaker 4: carried sacred codes and were divinely inspired and created. He
Speaker 4: was the first person in history to elevate numbers to
Speaker 4: the realm of philosophy and religion. He made observations of
Speaker 4: sacred geometry and nature and important sacred numbers in orphic mysticism.
Speaker 4: And it said that Pythagora's idea that the numbers were
Speaker 4: the key to the nature of the universe. There were
Speaker 4: some quotes it said number is a ruler of forms
Speaker 4: and ideas and cause of gods and demons. Oh see.
Speaker 4: Teachings of Pythagoras formed a large following a Croton Italy,
Speaker 4: forming a freemasonry among the aristocracy, with Pythagoras as the master.
Speaker 4: So you almost wonder, is I guess I had no
Speaker 4: idea prior to this that Pythagoras is kind of, you know,
Speaker 4: worshiped or looked up upon in freemasonry. I thought it
Speaker 4: was just a mathematical, you know guy, had no idea
Speaker 4: that his influence was in that Pythagoraans viewed the numbers
Speaker 4: one through ten as primordial powers based on all possible numbers,
Speaker 4: so regarding the ten as the most sacred. And there
Speaker 4: was there was something about how they worshiped the number
Speaker 4: ten that every time they solved, i say, a math problem,
Speaker 4: every time they solved a math problem and they were
Speaker 4: going to celebrate, they would celebrate and offer it to
Speaker 4: the number ten. And they treated the number ten as
Speaker 4: like a goddess, like a deity or whatever. And I
Speaker 4: think they would sacrifice like ten bowls or something like that.
Speaker 4: And they had this whole kind of worshiper, you know,
Speaker 4: offering up in terms of celebrating. So ten decade pictorially
Speaker 4: represents in the form of a four tier triangular pattern
Speaker 4: of ten dots known as the tetractus, which is the
Speaker 4: Hebrew tetragrammaton. Is that how he's tent tetragramaton. Tetractus is
Speaker 4: a symbol, is a sacred symbol upon which odes were
Speaker 4: sworn to. And this is the whole worshiping of it all.
Speaker 4: So you see the tetractus linking in with the tetragrammaton, tetrapour,
Speaker 4: tetragramaton symbolizing it to tetrahedral structure shape of a photon.
Speaker 4: I thought this was interesting because there is some references
Speaker 4: with the Rabbi talking about gematria and letters and light,
Speaker 4: and he was talking about how letters, because they have
Speaker 4: power and energy, they shape light or they channel light.
Speaker 4: And so when you talk about the tetractus with the
Speaker 4: trauma tetragrammaton and its symbol the shape of a photon.
Speaker 4: Photons are the building blocks of matter and they're the
Speaker 4: package of light. That's how you measure light is through
Speaker 4: a photon, and it's pretty much like the basic elementary
Speaker 4: particle in quantum and the electromagnetic field, and it has
Speaker 4: no mass, like it's zero mass. But anyway, I thought
Speaker 4: that was a neat whatever correlation. Okay, so Pythagorean dogma
Speaker 4: that the arithmetic relationships were a manifestation of the divine
Speaker 4: and it was the voice of Heaven could be revealed
Speaker 4: by the use of isosophy later to be called jamatria.
Speaker 4: So this is where you start to see why I
Speaker 4: think some of the greats end up using and adopting Jamatria,
Speaker 4: because he's proving mathematically that most of the powers of
Speaker 4: these letters in with numbers could potentially be like a
Speaker 4: message from the divine Isosophe became important in magic, divination
Speaker 4: and dream interpretation and oracles. So apparently a lot of
Speaker 4: very influential people like Cobernicus, Plato, Aristotle, Kepler, and Newton
Speaker 4: were influenced by Pythagoras. And so, I don't know, I
Speaker 4: give him credence for you know what he said, especially
Speaker 4: if those people kind of were like, yeah, I agree
Speaker 4: with him. I didn't know he discovered venus Pythagorists did,
Speaker 4: so that was also interesting. But so he established a
Speaker 4: private school where the students were involved in secret practices
Speaker 4: of esoteric rights of math and science. So you hear
Speaker 4: secret societies and then you hear them adopting like isoposophy
Speaker 4: and using this for divination. I thought, it's kind of
Speaker 4: similar to the secret societies that exist today. This would
Speaker 4: be the foundation of the most important and influential work.
Speaker 4: He is accredited as the father of numerology. He practiced
Speaker 4: numerology would contribute to his beliefs that numbers had a
Speaker 4: divine essence, meaning that they had a sacred code. So
Speaker 4: he kind of harped on that a whole lot, and
Speaker 4: then The last thing I have about Pythagoras was his
Speaker 4: four concepts of numerology, and so basically was the numbers
Speaker 4: of the basic element in nature, and through understanding them
Speaker 4: would be to unlock the imustries of reality that everything
Speaker 4: is a number and the universe is mathematical. The second
Speaker 4: one is the universe moves in cycles, birth and death, seasons,
Speaker 4: day and night, epicycle. He had in there as the
Speaker 4: last nine years, in that each year of your life
Speaker 4: has its own energy and vibration as it approaches growth,
Speaker 4: so like kind of like a decade, you know, like
Speaker 4: and you think about it, you're like, oh, well, in
Speaker 4: my twenties I did this, or oh my thirties, I
Speaker 4: did this. You know you kind of refer to, you know,
Speaker 4: it being like an entire collective. Yes, So I thought
Speaker 4: that's pretty interesting. The third one, all things are in
Speaker 4: a vibrational state. Music and numbers are intimately connected. And
Speaker 4: I remember that from you talking about like music of spheres.
Speaker 4: So that was that's interesting that he had outlined that.
Speaker 4: And I believe that the third one, all things are
Speaker 4: in vibration, lays down the groundwork for musica universalis and
Speaker 4: for string theory. So wow, yeah. And in the fourth one,
Speaker 4: the transmigration of souls or meta meta psychosis, Pythagoras believed
Speaker 4: in the immortality of souls that are trapped in a
Speaker 4: cycle of death and rebirth, and the only way to
Speaker 4: break the cycle is when you fully understood the lessons
Speaker 4: you've been brought here to learn. So I was like, wow,
Speaker 4: that's pretty good. So yeah, he really liked numbers. Oh yeah, yeah, okay,
Speaker 4: so three hundred BC back to our timeline, you have no.
Speaker 3: Real quick you think, like, remember how like you mentioned
Speaker 3: kind of like a secret society little thing.
Speaker 2: I was even wondering.
Speaker 3: I was like, I wonder, like even in some of
Speaker 3: his stuff that he create, like Cipher's too, you know,
Speaker 3: Like but like once you mentioned this secret society, I'm like, well,
Speaker 3: if they're going to keep thinkings secret, I wonder if
Speaker 3: any of this stuff was done in Cipher's that they
Speaker 3: figured out because of the stuff they were into with
Speaker 3: math and America value.
Speaker 4: Well, one of the things about you know you're talking
Speaker 4: about that that so Pythagoras, I think, at the age
Speaker 4: of eighteen, took off to Egypt and it was in
Speaker 4: Cairo up until like his thirties or forties, and when
Speaker 4: he came back, this is all the stuff. He was
Speaker 4: spitten like it, you know. I think he learned everything there.
Speaker 4: And if they were doing ciphers in Egypt at that time,
Speaker 4: surely he would as well, I would think, especially the
Speaker 4: fact that he was so fixated with math and use isopsophe. Yeah, absolutely,
Speaker 4: I would agree. So it's yeah, it's pretty interesting. And
Speaker 4: one like a weird thing that their cult or pythagre
Speaker 4: and cult, they were like completely against eating fapa beans.
Speaker 4: I don't know. I think it was that they thought
Speaker 4: that faba beans contained souls or something. I thought that
Speaker 4: was really weird when I read it. I was like,
Speaker 4: fapa beans really of all things? Yeah, yeah, yeah. Greek
Speaker 4: Kabbala during this time we see the importance of Kabalistic numerology.
Speaker 4: A is introduced and thoroughly adopted among the territories under
Speaker 4: the rule of Alexander, the great influences in Egypt and
Speaker 4: throughout the Hellenistic period, as well as its impact on
Speaker 4: Jewish mysticism and the Hebrew Kabbala and the Sepher Yetsra
Speaker 4: in the ancient world. And I think I mentioned this also,
Speaker 4: numerical values and letters were commonly used and were the
Speaker 4: standard system of numeration. So after Pythetic so on, one
Speaker 4: thing is certain that there's like an overwhelming importance given
Speaker 4: to numbers during the time of Pythagoras. And then after
Speaker 4: Pythagoras you find that all the works of the philosophers,
Speaker 4: all the works of the mathematicians, scientists and whatever have
Speaker 4: this whole Pythagoras thought to it, especially in the Greek philosophers.
Speaker 4: So without fully understanding the alphabetic numerology techniques and symbolisms
Speaker 4: used by the Greeks, it is difficult to make interpretations
Speaker 4: and translations of the ancient writings of this time because
Speaker 4: it seemed like everyone used some sort of cipher or
Speaker 4: some sort of coding with alphabetic numerology. The idea of
Speaker 4: using sound as symbols, as sound symbols as numbers crossed
Speaker 4: into the Mediterranean during the Hellenistic Age, which is around
Speaker 4: three hundred BC to thirty BC, and the Milesian numerical system,
Speaker 4: so you have the so that that was another thing.
Speaker 4: So the Milesian numer system was going on during the
Speaker 4: time of Pythagoras, and you see that kind of spread throughout.
Speaker 4: So then you have the emergence of isosophy from Pythagoras,
Speaker 4: and then that was fully adopted in the Middle East
Speaker 4: during Greek rule and then goes on with the Egyptians, Persians, Phoenicians, Arabs,
Speaker 4: and Jews adopting it. So it's it kind of moves
Speaker 4: throughout and so I think that's kind of how the trend,
Speaker 4: you know, like they talk about fashion trends, you know,
Speaker 4: it starts in New York or la and then it
Speaker 4: kind of moves. I think that's probably what was happening
Speaker 4: with alphabet and alphabetic numerals, and that something was created
Speaker 4: in a certain area and then it spread out that way.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 4: Yeah, two hundred BC in Ptolemy, the second in Egypt
Speaker 4: told Me's table of Cords shows evidence of this Milesian
Speaker 4: alphanumeric system. And then here is a British map of
Speaker 4: British Isles from Ptolemy geography using Greek numerals, so it's
Speaker 4: evidence that they were using the Great numeral system or
Speaker 4: the alphabetic numerical system. And then the Greek kabala is
Speaker 4: extensively discussed in the Marseilles Codex. I think I had
Speaker 4: already said this in the Gnostic scrolls, illustrating you know,
Speaker 4: Greek Kabala influence as well, and showing how it was
Speaker 4: pervasive throughout basically trying to drive home the fact that
Speaker 4: they came up with at first, not the US. They're
Speaker 4: really trying, they're really bringing it home. Okay, So I
Speaker 4: think I mentioned this the graffiti and Pompeii. We all
Speaker 4: know Vesuvius erupted around seventy nine a d. And so
Speaker 4: it kind of froze in time everything, and so you
Speaker 4: can go back you see all this graffiti on the wall,
Speaker 4: and the graffiti itself has references to numbers, and some
Speaker 4: examples were I love her whose number is five four five,
Speaker 4: which to them it was like if you were to
Speaker 4: write five four five and an alpha numerical system, you
Speaker 4: would get her name. Another one was a Merrimus thought
Speaker 4: upon his lady Harmonia for good. The number of her
Speaker 4: honorable name is forty five. So even back then, I mean,
Speaker 4: and I'm not saying that to me. It's like, once
Speaker 4: you see it in graffiti, you're not I doubt that
Speaker 4: you're seeing the philosophers doing the graffiti. So this is
Speaker 4: this is evidence of it existing in the common man,
Speaker 4: you know what I mean, And that even the common
Speaker 4: man knew about isosophy or this alphanumerical system, and everyone
Speaker 4: knew about it, so they were using it. And it's
Speaker 4: weird to me because we don't and we don't even
Speaker 4: know of that stuff. Even some of the learned people,
Speaker 4: like in terms of like you have scientists or whatever
Speaker 4: that they they're not even familiar with it. So it's
Speaker 4: you would have to be specialized in the alpha numerical whatever.
Speaker 4: But even back then the common person did so kind
Speaker 4: of shows like a regression the evolution the mind. So okay,
Speaker 4: And then in one twenty one a d you also
Speaker 4: see it in political slogans. I think neuro oressus alcerman,
Speaker 4: their mother slew a calculation knew near his mother slew.
Speaker 4: So if you run it through this alphanumerical system, neuro
Speaker 4: equals one one zero zero five one zero zero five
Speaker 4: equals to the phrase he killed his own mother. So
Speaker 4: I thought that was cool. I was like, wow, they
Speaker 4: even put that in a political slogan. I thought that
Speaker 4: was wet. And it kind of shows like what was
Speaker 4: going on at the time, like you know how the
Speaker 4: I don't you see it what happens today.
Speaker 3: Probably still going on now. That's why when you run
Speaker 3: numbers and you're like, oh, this seems weird that it
Speaker 3: matches that.
Speaker 4: Yeah. So I mean kind of a whole thing of.
Speaker 3: Like, oh wait when was this again?
Speaker 4: This was in one twenty one a D.
Speaker 2: It's pretty old.
Speaker 3: Yeah, doesn't mean it hasn't styled. It could be actually
Speaker 3: more prevalent, and well.
Speaker 4: That's kind of why I brought it up. And then
Speaker 4: you know, it's like why, I don't think it stopped ever, So.
Speaker 3: No, just the people understanding it got less.
Speaker 4: Or was it on purpose?
Speaker 2: Oh I'm sure?
Speaker 4: Yeah. So in three hundred twenty five three twenty five
Speaker 4: a D. The First Council of Nicea classifies departures from
Speaker 4: state church beliefs such as isosophy as civil violations within
Speaker 4: the Roman Empire. Yet it was still being used with
Speaker 4: Greek Orthodox So you see an actual you know, church
Speaker 4: state take and action against alphanumerical systems. I'm assuming because
Speaker 4: they believe it was a threat, like why would you
Speaker 4: make an entire law against it? And they forbade the
Speaker 4: practice of isosophy.
Speaker 3: I know when I came across that, I didn't whatever
Speaker 3: I was reading didn't actually go into that much either about.
Speaker 4: Why Okay, no, I didn't. I didn't find why. I
Speaker 4: didn't find why either. They just kind of it was
Speaker 4: like a it was just a statement. Eighth ninth century
Speaker 4: a D. You see, isosophy is related to Hebrew practice
Speaker 4: of jamatria as well as in the ancient numbering systems
Speaker 4: of many other practice which is the Arabic alphabet. Jamatria
Speaker 4: of Latin script languages were popularized in Europe during the
Speaker 4: Middle Ages, and that's what that graph shows that during
Speaker 4: the Renaissance, it's still, yeah, that it starts to emerge.
Speaker 4: You start to see the practice of isosophy or jamatria
Speaker 4: leak into or bleed into the Latin alphabet during this
Speaker 4: This code breaking numerology exists today and especially in Masonic symbolism.
Speaker 4: According to the documents, numerals predominantly alphabetical until Arabic numerals
Speaker 4: were adopted from Indian numerals in the the ninth century
Speaker 4: a d. And then subsequently promoted in Europe by the
Speaker 4: Fibonacci of by Fibonacci of Pisa with his twelve or
Speaker 4: twelve book Late Liber of Assi, which is the Greek
Speaker 4: numerals using in the alphabet. So yeah, that's how it started.
Speaker 4: There and then you see it with Fibonacci. You're going
Speaker 4: to cover that later ninth century ninth century a d.
Speaker 4: Which I thought this guy was really interesting. Ninth century AD.
Speaker 4: Jabi Iden Hyen is an author of many works on
Speaker 4: alchemy magic chemistry, and he designed his experiments using numerology
Speaker 4: on the names of the substances. So he's kind of
Speaker 4: quoted as contributing to a large breath of work, like
Speaker 4: he published a whole lot of stuff, which was really
Speaker 4: interesting because I don't think he lived very long, so
Speaker 4: it's like either he was a lot or what or
Speaker 4: but there's belief that they don't think he really existed,
Speaker 4: that he was just like kind of like a character
Speaker 4: made up and a lot of people put.
Speaker 3: A name for a bunch of contributors.
Speaker 4: Yes, right, and so they get away with publishing and
Speaker 4: just put it under this fictitious name. But he was.
Speaker 4: His basic alchemical theories are all related to numerology and
Speaker 4: it's it's extensive according to the the Script. So in
Speaker 4: eleventh twelfth century AD, the official writings about Kabala and
Speaker 4: Jewish mysticism appear in Spain. Christians and Jewish Muslims are
Speaker 4: talking to each other sharing ideas, and this is where
Speaker 4: you see the first in depth texts of Jewish Kabbala
Speaker 4: coming out of this time period. So yeah, that's pretty
Speaker 4: much up to speed with the Jewish Kabbala. And then
Speaker 4: we're going to get into the next episode where we're
Speaker 4: going to talk about other famous people that had influence
Speaker 4: such as like Fibonacci. You have Agrippa, then you have
Speaker 4: John Dee, you have Peter Bogo Shakespeare, which which is
Speaker 4: also an interesting one because he wrote his stuff in
Speaker 4: Cypher's and Kercher and so I kind of wanted to
Speaker 4: create kind of like a timeline of like how it
Speaker 4: all started and then how it progressed throughout with these
Speaker 4: people that are influential, even though they're very I think
Speaker 4: they're not well known to me, they weren't well known,
Speaker 4: but according to most of the mathematicians and philosophers, they
Speaker 4: were very influential on their work. So, and one of
Speaker 4: the things that I wanted to point out is that
Speaker 4: the whole the word numerology does not even appear in
Speaker 4: the lexicon until nineteen oh seven, which you have all
Speaker 4: these people talking about, you know, associating numbers with the alphabet,
Speaker 4: and yet it does that whole word doesn't even appear
Speaker 4: till twentieth century. So yep, that's all I got on
Speaker 4: my end.
Speaker 2: Awesome, I think that was great. Thank you very much.
Speaker 3: I will be in the next one. I will get
Speaker 3: into how do you say his name?
Speaker 4: But jabiir Jabier, Yeah, I think that's his name.
Speaker 3: You know what I'm look because I'm looking at it now.
Speaker 3: I was looking at the people that I was going
Speaker 3: to cover next episode. I think this is the weird
Speaker 3: thing is that. Uh yeah, I think that he was
Speaker 3: very young, right, you were saying to the point where
Speaker 3: I don't think he was like too old even when
Speaker 3: he died.
Speaker 4: No, I want to say he was in his twenties.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 3: Yeah, that's what I was thinking, looking at like, you know,
Speaker 3: because they have an idea. Yeah, And I was like,
Speaker 3: this doesn't make him. I think I even said that
Speaker 3: to you. I was like, Yo, this dude was young.
Speaker 4: I was like, was he writing at six?
Speaker 2: Like that's right. Yeah.
Speaker 3: It was just like I don't know, but there's somebody
Speaker 3: else that I'm going to cover that I'm sure he existed.
Speaker 3: But they they even say the same thing that they
Speaker 3: think that might have been like groups of people and
Speaker 3: he was like a final editor and publisher. But in
Speaker 3: the next episode we will be going into some people
Speaker 3: for sure that uh hopefully will be new names for you.
Speaker 3: It will be some interesting stuff and you know, see
Speaker 3: what kind of what they attributed too. I guess occultism,
Speaker 3: numerology and even society, interesting history and just other theories
Speaker 3: on stuff. Yeah, and then hopefully the third part will
Speaker 3: be Cipher's depending but I do think that will probably
Speaker 3: be in episode three.
Speaker 2: Uh yeah.
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Speaker 2: It's a good time.
Speaker 3: So I highly suggested take a lookout for that, and
Speaker 3: that will be live on Rumble Twitter YouTube. I think
Speaker 3: that's about it, but uh yeah, that's probably really the
Speaker 3: only new thing to mention I might have some. I
Speaker 3: guess I probably more than likely I am going to Yale.
Speaker 3: I'm like almost regretting that I'm even bringing it up,
Speaker 3: so I'm like, probably I'm scheduled to go this Monday. Actually,
Speaker 3: you know, something could happen, you know, but I'm supposed
Speaker 3: to be going to uh Yale University with Mike from
Speaker 3: Hush Hush Conspiracy Hour, and they got some wild stuff
Speaker 3: over there that I was going to you know, film
Speaker 3: and cover some aerial stuff. Pretty much to me almost
Speaker 3: looks like the Universal Hexagram is like on the it's
Speaker 3: on the premises inside some town square.
Speaker 2: I think almost.
Speaker 3: It's cold, and there's a whole bunch of a cult
Speaker 3: architecture that we're going to grab and hopefully, like I
Speaker 3: will cover as well. So keep an eye out for that,
Speaker 3: because by the time this dropped, if I went, that
Speaker 3: should be coming out soon. So uh hopefully I'm not
Speaker 3: screwing myself by announcing this early, but uh yeah, keep
Speaker 3: an eye out for that. I think that should be
Speaker 3: fun and that probably will be like my first attempt
Speaker 3: I guess, like trying to do like a video documentary
Speaker 3: in a sense, it really won't be a podcast, but
Speaker 3: I'll be showing audio. I mean, I'll be showing video
Speaker 3: and pictures and stuff and you know my audio. Whoever
Speaker 3: I'm covering it with, we'll be talking about what's going on.
Speaker 3: No significance to stuff, but yeah, it should be interesting
Speaker 3: in something new. I'm looking forward to trying to do this.
Speaker 3: I'll take Yeah, keep an eye out for that and
Speaker 3: until the next one, everybody be well.
Speaker 2: Later,