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Speaker 2: Greetings, Bobo, how you doing man? Greetings Ursling, Oh man,
Speaker 2: are everything going good?
Speaker 4: Uh? Yes and no uh. One of my really tight
Speaker 4: good friends from growing up, my next Jorda. Actually, as
Speaker 4: a matter of fact, Brucio Bruce Bruce Bass passed away
Speaker 4: last night. Oh yeah, I went down and I saw
Speaker 4: him a week ago when I was down in l As.
Speaker 4: He was long. He's a vet, he was a Navy
Speaker 4: vet and he got really bad cancer. And saw him
Speaker 4: just we can go Monday, went down saw visiting him
Speaker 4: for a while. Yeah.
Speaker 2: Well, at least you had that time with them, you know.
Speaker 4: And oh yeah.
Speaker 2: At the end of the day, you know, when when
Speaker 2: people pass, it's my personal belief at least like they're free.
Speaker 2: We're the ones still stuck here.
Speaker 4: You know. Yeah, he's doing okay.
Speaker 2: Yeah, don't be too sad when one becomes one with
Speaker 2: the force, you.
Speaker 4: Know, right right, yeah, true.
Speaker 2: But what's good, But I mean, what's good if that's
Speaker 2: bumming out a little bit, what's on the good side
Speaker 2: of things.
Speaker 4: It's a beautiful day. It's like the most insane day
Speaker 4: of the year so far for us.
Speaker 2: Here there you go, it's another small miracle, right Yeah,
Speaker 2: hey man, A couple of weeks ago, you briefly mentioned
Speaker 2: that you were doing a dog walking service. Is that
Speaker 2: Is that doing anything? Like are you walking dogs and
Speaker 2: stuff or what's going on?
Speaker 4: I did a couple and then yeah, my page, like
Speaker 4: I paid for like the background check, and I paid
Speaker 4: like the like the pit whatever, it's like fifty nine
Speaker 4: bucks or whatever. Then it clears you would like through
Speaker 4: your fingerprints and does like, you know, make sure you're
Speaker 4: safe to drive their dog or whatever to the park
Speaker 4: and that I'm still trying to get that figured out.
Speaker 4: So I don't know. I guess I got a refunding
Speaker 4: my money, and then I got to sign up for
Speaker 4: it again, so I don't have that, And I just
Speaker 4: got my reviews. My customer reviews from before didn't go
Speaker 4: They didn't load in for whatever reason, for like five
Speaker 4: or six tries, so I didn't have any I didn't
Speaker 4: have any references you need references and stuff, and then
Speaker 4: create a hates my picture. You're not gonna get any
Speaker 4: calls with that picture. I'm like, it's a real picture.
Speaker 2: I want to see the picture. What does that look like?
Speaker 4: Not good?
Speaker 1: I think you should go for the one where you're
Speaker 1: holding like the boomerang and you've got the hat.
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, that's a good one.
Speaker 4: You can't have a hat on in the picture, otherwise
Speaker 4: I'd be the photo for sure.
Speaker 2: Hey, well, there's a few dozen people listening right now
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Speaker 2: don't know a lot of options here and.
Speaker 4: No dog caresoning.
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Speaker 4: Yeah?
Speaker 2: I got those. I got those.
Speaker 4: Yeah.
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Speaker 1: am a huge coffee person and I wake up super early.
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Speaker 2: It's kind of taken the place of my afternoon coffee
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Speaker 4: Oh clif I'm coming up for sure to get by
Speaker 4: a trailer.
Speaker 2: No, yeah, really, when is this the third week of August?
Speaker 2: Third week of August. In a way, I'll kind of
Speaker 2: miss it, but all right, fantastic. Now I got to
Speaker 2: make sure that I'll be here or somebody will be here.
Speaker 2: Uh yeah, third week of August. Let's see what that
Speaker 2: looks like on my phone. Here, Oh, that's the twenty second. Yeah,
Speaker 2: you know, the only thing I have going is that
Speaker 2: the twenty second itself, which is a Thursday. That third week,
Speaker 2: I'm doing an appearance down at the what are they
Speaker 2: called hold On Second, Columbia Gorge Discovery Center and Museum.
Speaker 2: It's a really really nice museum over there and right
Speaker 2: outside the Dowells, and they they are teaming up with
Speaker 2: the North American Bigfoot Center to do a Bigfoot exhibit.
Speaker 2: So that's going to be a featured over there at
Speaker 2: the Columbia Gorge Discovery Discovery Center and Museum. And they're
Speaker 2: doing a kickoff event on the night of the twenty
Speaker 2: second of August, and I'll be speaking there, I believe,
Speaker 2: is when I understand I'll definitely be there, but I
Speaker 2: believe I'm speaking there, and they're gonna have a bunch
Speaker 2: of stuff going on to kind of celebrate you know,
Speaker 2: celebrate sasquatches in general, and also the beginning of our
Speaker 2: special collaborative exhibit there, so we're pretty excited about that.
Speaker 2: So yeah, if you're there, man, just hop in the
Speaker 2: car and we'll go down there together. It'll be fun. Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 2: it should be pretty cool. But yeah, fantastic. I'd love
Speaker 2: to free up some room in the outbuilding. And you'll
Speaker 2: see why when you get here. I know I've been
Speaker 2: teasing you about it on the air and stuff like
Speaker 2: that for a long time, and I do appreciate you
Speaker 2: being so good natured about it. But you know, on
Speaker 2: one side, I do have a wife who's winging, so
Speaker 2: what's up with bobas trailer? And then the other side
Speaker 2: I'm looking at like, okay, well you'll see when you
Speaker 2: get here, like what the plans are for, you know,
Speaker 2: walling up a portion of the of the outbuilding. And
Speaker 2: of course I got my new lights up, which took forever,
Speaker 2: of course, because I did it myself and I had
Speaker 2: to learn about electricity and stuff like that. But the
Speaker 2: one electrical panel I don't have up is the one
Speaker 2: right above where your trailer is, So I got to
Speaker 2: kind of wait for that too, so you'll see you'll
Speaker 2: see why I've been poking you a little bit for it.
Speaker 4: So it's gonna lose a lot of class in that place,
Speaker 4: I know.
Speaker 2: And of course, and again I'll be a little sad.
Speaker 2: I'll be sure to videotape it leaving though.
Speaker 1: You should smash a champagne bottle across it as it leaves.
Speaker 2: It would shatter. But why'd you break my trailer, dude?
Speaker 2: But yeah, it's still a good shape, man, as good
Speaker 2: as good as shape as it was when it showed
Speaker 2: up at least, you know.
Speaker 4: Yeah, it's in the same shape as when I left it.
Speaker 4: That's really good. Yeah.
Speaker 2: Well, it's gonna be kind of a challenge to get
Speaker 2: it out of there, thinking about it, because we have
Speaker 2: a mill out in front of the outbuilding now, like
Speaker 2: one of those portable mills, uh huh, yeah, so we
Speaker 2: have to move that around a little bit. I have
Speaker 2: to start thinking about that. When when you get some
Speaker 2: dates finalized for coming down, you're gonna be around for
Speaker 2: you think you're gonna be around for a couple of days. Yeah, cool, cool.
Speaker 2: I'll try to figure out the best place to go
Speaker 2: out in the woods at that point too. Then take
Speaker 2: you out and do that.
Speaker 4: Maybe. Yeah, I was gonna try to do a couple
Speaker 4: of big pet like do some of that re ciling,
Speaker 4: and I wanted to put a maybe like a diamond
Speaker 4: plate guard over the front lower part of the trailer
Speaker 4: where it takes a lot of other gravel pop, you know,
Speaker 4: flying up and hitting it there.
Speaker 2: Oh, okay, gotcha. I was thinking of a diamond plate.
Speaker 2: It's like a grill. I know that you wanted to
Speaker 2: do diamond You want to have a grill on your teeth.
Speaker 2: At one point that was a big point of view,
Speaker 2: like an abalone grill if I remember correctly, Yeah, that
Speaker 2: would have really glamorized your smile dramatically.
Speaker 4: I think it would have. Definitely, there's no doubt about that.
Speaker 2: Awesome. Yeah, I was out yesterday. I didn't get any
Speaker 2: tracks or anything like that, because you know, they are
Speaker 2: pretty rare. I mean, I always talked about the good
Speaker 2: stuff we get out there, so it seems like clip
Speaker 2: finds tracks all the time. Now I don't. There's a
Speaker 2: lot of days I go where I don't even talk
Speaker 2: about it. But I put about four or five miles
Speaker 2: under my boots yesterday, walked all these different roads and
Speaker 2: pulled some cameras and stuff like that. But at one
Speaker 2: particular place, man, I ran into a real big bear.
Speaker 2: Holy smokes. So I ran into a real big bear there.
Speaker 2: I pushed into this one road that a decommissioned road
Speaker 2: that I'd never been down before, but it has been
Speaker 2: you know, every time I drive by, the road gives
Speaker 2: me that one of those come hither looks, you know,
Speaker 2: like you got to come walk on me and look
Speaker 2: how great I am? Super sexy. So so I parked
Speaker 2: there on my way out yesterday, kind of the last
Speaker 2: stop of the day, around five thirty or six or
Speaker 2: something yesterday, parked there, start walking down the road and
Speaker 2: it is it is a rough road for the first
Speaker 2: two three hundred yards or so, like really torn up.
Speaker 2: And after that I kind of smoothed out a bit,
Speaker 2: but it's, you know, it's rough going. And so another
Speaker 2: couple of hundred yards down the road, I get to
Speaker 2: the spot and looking at the time, I think, well,
Speaker 2: I gotta get I got it. I got stuff I
Speaker 2: gotta do tonight too. I got to get home. So
Speaker 2: I say, well, this is a cool road. I'm going
Speaker 2: to put a button in it. And I just sat
Speaker 2: down because that's one of the things I like doing.
Speaker 2: Like the last couple of bigfoot encounters that either I
Speaker 2: have had or friends of mine have had, they weren't
Speaker 2: doing anything at the time. They weren't doing any antagonistic
Speaker 2: no knocking, no yelling, nothing. They're just there and the
Speaker 2: bigfoot's happened to be there, right, So that's kind of
Speaker 2: one of the things I'm doing a lot. And also
Speaker 2: when I went out with my buddy Gary, who is
Speaker 2: a real big hunter, he says, let me show you
Speaker 2: how a lot of people hunt on the move, Cliff,
Speaker 2: and you know, and I'm sure there's a five hundred
Speaker 2: hunters who listened. They go, you didn't know that, Cliff.
Speaker 2: You know whatever, I'm not a hunter. How would I know?
Speaker 2: So what Gary does is takes three steps and stops
Speaker 2: for thirty seconds, you know, one of those things. And
Speaker 2: he says, yeah, I've shot a lot of animals that way.
Speaker 2: You know, if one is prone to shooting animals, that's
Speaker 2: a good way to do it. I guess so, But
Speaker 2: I'm not exactly prone to shooting them, but I would
Speaker 2: like to see them. So I've been doing that a lot.
Speaker 2: I've been going to a certain spot then like sitting
Speaker 2: my ass down basically and waiting around for five minutes
Speaker 2: and just seeing what happens. So at the point I
Speaker 2: decided to turn around on this road, I just sit
Speaker 2: down on the ground. And then two or three minutes
Speaker 2: after I'm sitting there, there's a there's a crack behind me,
Speaker 2: like a pop a brush pop, you know. I go, oh,
Speaker 2: I wonder if that's the wind because there's a slight breeze,
Speaker 2: or if that's something, you know, And then I hear
Speaker 2: it again another minute later, two minutes later, I go, oh,
Speaker 2: maybe that's an elk or a deer or something, because
Speaker 2: there's all sorts of deer and elk sign everywhere right.
Speaker 2: And then a moment or two after that, crack crack
Speaker 2: crack pop pop crap, and then I say, oh, shoot,
Speaker 2: something's moving, and it's moving out towards the road. And
Speaker 2: so about maybe one hundred yards at the most, probably
Speaker 2: more like eighty yards something like that, I see something
Speaker 2: black moving through the brush on the left hand side.
Speaker 2: I go, oh, shoot, that's not a deer and elk.
Speaker 2: I hope it's a sasquatch because if it's not, that's
Speaker 2: a bear. And it sure enough it's a big old bear,
Speaker 2: A big old bear. You know. It had to be
Speaker 2: two to three hundred pounds, you know, it was. It
Speaker 2: was a pretty big bear for the kind of bears
Speaker 2: we get around here, you know. It kind of came
Speaker 2: up to my waist or so maybe my belly button, yeah,
Speaker 2: you know. And it didn't see me, and I'm just
Speaker 2: I'm standing there because I didn't want to surprise it
Speaker 2: or and I'm just standing on the road. It didn't
Speaker 2: see me, just assumed I wasn't there, kind of walked
Speaker 2: out on the road and I went like, ah, like
Speaker 2: that at it, just like I was disappointed, like oh shoot.
Speaker 2: And then and it looked at me and then turnedtailed
Speaker 2: and ran. But it did look at me for about
Speaker 2: a second before it ran. And it's amazing how many
Speaker 2: thoughts went through my mind during that one second, because
Speaker 2: this is one of those times, man, I just didn't
Speaker 2: bring my bear spray. It was back in the car,
Speaker 2: you know, a thousand yards from where I was, and
Speaker 2: it's like, shoot, man, I just really should have brought
Speaker 2: my bear spray. And like that one second, looking at
Speaker 2: the bear in the face when it was looking at me,
Speaker 2: I remember thinking very specifically I wonder what's going to
Speaker 2: happen next, because it could either ruin my day, change
Speaker 2: my life and my life, or have a decent story
Speaker 2: for the podcast today. And luckily the latter happened. So
Speaker 2: I've got a beautiful bear, man, just a beautiful bear.
Speaker 2: And I keep thinking of these people who see sasquat
Speaker 2: as to say, oh, yeah, it looked it was a
Speaker 2: color of a black bear. He's saying, man, it would
Speaker 2: be really I mean, I don't care what color sasquatch
Speaker 2: I see, of course, but just to see some a
Speaker 2: sasquatch of that, just like pure rich dark, you know,
Speaker 2: black color like that would be so cool, just unbelievable.
Speaker 2: But anyway, so that's my update for today.
Speaker 4: I'm going to Bluff Bluff Creek tomorrow.
Speaker 2: Oh lucky you man, there's I think there's a bunch
Speaker 2: of people up there right now.
Speaker 4: Yeah, Bluff, the Bluff Creek Project guys are there. And
Speaker 4: then Alexander Petticov from Small Town Monsters, he's he's coming,
Speaker 4: he's he's already in there. Actually they're doing there. Thanks.
Speaker 4: So I wasn't to help him out for one part,
Speaker 4: a little quick part. I was in it be in
Speaker 4: it for him.
Speaker 2: Yeah, he's cool.
Speaker 4: I like him.
Speaker 2: Man. We took him out to the woods like maybe
Speaker 2: two weeks ago when he was here before he went
Speaker 2: to the Ape Canyon trip thing.
Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, it's cool.
Speaker 2: Ask him to see pictures of the mine at the
Speaker 2: Epe Canyon Mine. It's really cool.
Speaker 4: Yeah yeah, I will for sure. Yeah.
Speaker 2: Yeah. We brought him out and showed him some prints
Speaker 2: in the ground and stuff. I think he was pretty stoked,
Speaker 2: you know, Yeah he was, he said he was. I'm
Speaker 2: hoping to make it down to Bluff at some point
Speaker 2: this year because I mean, i'd like to see the
Speaker 2: fire damage. I'd like to I just like Bluff in general,
Speaker 2: of course, you know. And also I want to meet Eric,
Speaker 2: the guy who's kind of helping out at the Willow
Speaker 2: Creek Museum. Talked to him about some possibilities about working
Speaker 2: together somehow, and I meet him face to face and
Speaker 2: build a relationship there. There's a couple other things I
Speaker 2: want to do in that general area as well, So
Speaker 2: hopefully i'll make it down there. I don't know when, though,
Speaker 2: I mean, like, you know, summer calendars fill up really fast.
Speaker 4: I know, summer's freaking halfway over.
Speaker 2: I know, it's middle of July right now.
Speaker 4: It's insane. It's insane.
Speaker 2: It'll be over before we know it.
Speaker 4: It was cold here like on the on the North coast,
Speaker 4: you know, until late in the year, I mean like June.
Speaker 4: We still there was still like cold in June, you know,
Speaker 4: and then there's really nice last week and a half,
Speaker 4: two weeks, like really nice.
Speaker 2: I do like the weather. But being out in the
Speaker 2: woods yesterday, the bugs are out in force. Man, it
Speaker 2: is insane, that's what it was saying.
Speaker 4: It's bad.
Speaker 2: The air, the ground's all crunchy, so the tracking is terrible.
Speaker 2: You know, it's hot out there, of course, you know,
Speaker 2: the water's real low. Muddy spots are few and far
Speaker 2: between for prints. Bugs are everywhere. Nico and Keith try
Speaker 2: to get up to the Blueberry Bog and they lasted
Speaker 2: all of five minutes before they said screw this, and
Speaker 2: then they renamed the area the blueberry Bug because it
Speaker 2: was just insane, like it was. The mosquitoes were in
Speaker 2: their eyes and their ears and their mouths. They said,
Speaker 2: it was really bad.
Speaker 4: Yeah, it was bad in Bluff when I was out
Speaker 4: there two weeks ago, it was it was. It was
Speaker 4: exceptionally bad. Yeah, with Pauli out, that's when we got
Speaker 4: the Knox that place, that's when we stayed for about
Speaker 4: forty five minutes off to the Knox. Just just kidding. Frick.
Speaker 4: I was like, and we were on a marshy spot.
Speaker 4: I was like, Okay, I know there's gonna be a
Speaker 4: lot of us, like there's always mosquitoes here, but this
Speaker 4: is ridiculous.
Speaker 2: The bugs can be ridiculous. Yeah, unquestionably, stay tuned for
Speaker 2: more Bigfoot and Beyond with Cliff and Bogo. We'll be
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Speaker 5: Please, Hi, Clobo big van here. Been listening to Day one.
Speaker 5: Love the show, miss it very much. It's been five
Speaker 5: years since you started the podcast. Congratulations on that. I
Speaker 5: wanted to ask what are some of your highlights, what
Speaker 5: are some of your low lights? What would be your
Speaker 5: top three guests that you've interviewed from the past five.
Speaker 4: Years, favorite episodes. That's hard as I've used to that
Speaker 4: question about the TV show, but they don't get asked
Speaker 4: about the podcast too much. But I mean, Ma's been
Speaker 4: playing some of the greatest hits. And we started off
Speaker 4: with episode fifty five, which is a classic Sarah's Encounter sighting.
Speaker 4: I guess, I guess my favorite ones are the ones
Speaker 4: that people like the most personally. I was super excited
Speaker 4: to get Garrett Patterson on from South Africa at the
Speaker 4: O Tangs that I was super psyched for that. I
Speaker 4: was pretty psyched for doctor Gregory Fourth, the Indonesian expert
Speaker 4: on the possibly the homoflusienss, so you know, he thinks
Speaker 4: they're possibly surviving or surviving until the last century. That
Speaker 4: was great, Melgium was great, and then we've had a
Speaker 4: lot of good shows. You know. Got what's the ones
Speaker 4: that people have stood up to me? Uh, where people
Speaker 4: have commented the most on would be Dennis fole is great. Yeah,
Speaker 4: I guess those ones that stand out off the top
Speaker 4: of my head. Yeah yeah.
Speaker 2: As far as my three favorites, it's hard to narrow down,
Speaker 2: but I think Gareth Patterson, of course. I think that's
Speaker 2: a huge one for me because so little is known
Speaker 2: about the Harry harmanoids in general out of Africa. The
Speaker 2: very very few books have been written, very few newspaper
Speaker 2: articles have made print about it. But yet clearly they're there.
Speaker 2: If they're anywhere, they're in Africa. It's just that people there,
Speaker 2: I mean, I guess it's like any other place in
Speaker 2: the world, you know, like Indonesia or somewhere like that.
Speaker 2: You know, like the people there, Okay, they're there. Now
Speaker 2: what do we do about it? No big deal. We're
Speaker 2: busy making a living. Who cares, right, So we don't
Speaker 2: hear a lot of that stuff. So the Gareth Patterson
Speaker 2: stuff has to be high on the list. Now. Of course,
Speaker 2: I'm not going through and looking at all the I'm
Speaker 2: doing this off the top of my head, and my
Speaker 2: head's you know, flimsy at best as far as my
Speaker 2: memory goes. But I love having Chad Hammel on here.
Speaker 2: Chad Hammel the executive producer, like Field producer for Finding Bigfoot.
Speaker 2: I love having Chad on there because one of the
Speaker 2: neat things about the podcast for me, it was kind
Speaker 2: of like a similar thing when I was on the
Speaker 2: show for Finding Bigfoot. Traveling around the country gave me
Speaker 2: the gave us the opportunity of seeing people that we
Speaker 2: didn't normally see in person, even though we may keep
Speaker 2: in contact with them or see them at shows or
Speaker 2: something like that, you know, job situations where we're both speaking.
Speaker 2: You know, now that the show's off the air, there's
Speaker 2: there's I don't get to see people like that. You know,
Speaker 2: I don't get to see you know, Lyle Blackburn in
Speaker 2: person or whatever, or you know, any number of people
Speaker 2: you know, unless unless we're on the same job together,
Speaker 2: and job jobs aren't always the best opportunity to get
Speaker 2: together and hang out. So seeing having somebody like Chad
Speaker 2: Hammel or somebody on this show. I haven't seen Chad
Speaker 2: in years now, but I love the guy, you know,
Speaker 2: and so having him on that always means a lot
Speaker 2: to me. And as far as another top thing highlight,
Speaker 2: I guess for me every single month, I really enjoy these.
Speaker 2: I enjoy the Q and A episodes probably more than
Speaker 2: interviewing anybody, because it's easy. I'm just hanging out with
Speaker 2: Bobes and broots around here somewhere doing something. So yeah,
Speaker 2: I enjoy these because they're easy, they're fun, They're unexpected,
Speaker 2: like whatever is happening is unexpected. We're all shooting from
Speaker 2: the hip here. We don't know what the questions are
Speaker 2: and I love that, you know, That's part of reason.
Speaker 2: Part of the reason I studied jazz as a music
Speaker 2: is the improvisational side of things. That's probably one of
Speaker 2: the reasons I love The Grateful Dead so much. Is
Speaker 2: the improvisational side of things. So not knowing what's coming
Speaker 2: down the pipe here and having to deal with it.
Speaker 2: I love that. I love that, and I love it
Speaker 2: even more that we have an editor who cleans up
Speaker 2: our slot when we screw up. It's perfect. So those
Speaker 2: are always the highlights for me. As far as the
Speaker 2: low lights, I don't know. I don't even want to
Speaker 2: address secuse I want to keep everything positive. Yeah, he
Speaker 2: said the heis and lows, and so I don't know
Speaker 2: if you want to address the lows, you know, because
Speaker 2: I want to keep everything positive. That's kind of the
Speaker 2: nature of our podcast. If you notice we don't complain
Speaker 2: and bitch about people on our podcast, you know, we
Speaker 2: just we generally keep it pretty positive. We don't talk
Speaker 2: about other researchers, we don't really talk about other shows,
Speaker 2: we don't talk about other websites, we don't talk about
Speaker 2: very much at all unless we're directly involved in it somehow.
Speaker 2: And part of that is to keep it all positive
Speaker 2: because look around, man, there's so much negativity in the world.
Speaker 2: And then of course a lot of people get all
Speaker 2: their big Foot stuff from Facebook, and that's where a
Speaker 2: tremendous number of mentally ill people show off their flavor
Speaker 2: of mental illness. You know, let us keep it positive
Speaker 2: and we want Bigfoot and Beyond to be an island
Speaker 2: of kindness and a place that you can come and
Speaker 2: just feel good about something and listen to some big
Speaker 2: some guys shoot the poop about.
Speaker 4: Bigfoot, Bigfoot and Beyond positive.
Speaker 2: Exactly beyond positive, right.
Speaker 4: Right?
Speaker 2: So anyway, that that's my thought on it, and not
Speaker 2: that I want to, you know, shun that that negative
Speaker 2: side of it, because you know, there's been better guests
Speaker 2: than others, and some guests have earned us some flak
Speaker 2: from the audience and all that other stuff. But at
Speaker 2: the same time, who cares. We're here now, man, let's
Speaker 2: enjoy it.
Speaker 4: Yeah, Hey, man, I hope that.
Speaker 2: Answers most of your question. Do you want to weigh
Speaker 2: in or you just want to skip that and weigh
Speaker 2: in on the member stuff.
Speaker 4: What guests requires the least amount of editing.
Speaker 1: You know, there's been quite a few that didn't really
Speaker 1: need much editing, like John wilk was one that comes
Speaker 1: to mind. There's just a few people that you know,
Speaker 1: just really roll right through and they have a lot
Speaker 1: to say, and now to be fair, just so that
Speaker 1: the listeners understand. When I say someone needs editing, I
Speaker 1: preface every episode with that. I try to inform people
Speaker 1: and basically empower them to understand, like, hey, this will
Speaker 1: be edited, so feel free to take your time. If
Speaker 1: you need to look up a reference, feel free to
Speaker 1: take the time to do that. If you want to
Speaker 1: say something a different way or say it again, or
Speaker 1: if you want to rephrase something, feel free to do that.
Speaker 1: So some people do celebrate that liberty, so to speak,
Speaker 1: and you know, they do multiple takes and things. And
Speaker 1: then you know, some people are just not really used
Speaker 1: to being involved in like long form conversations in the
Speaker 1: public ear and so they take really long pauses and things,
Speaker 1: which is totally fine, And I just tighten that up
Speaker 1: for the sake of the audience so that it's more
Speaker 1: easily digestible. So it's not like we've had to tangle
Speaker 1: with too many people who are just terrible to listen to.
Speaker 1: And I'm trying to make it listenable more so, I'm
Speaker 1: just trying to make people feel comfortable and no pressure.
Speaker 1: And my philosophy is always just like, hey, guys, just
Speaker 1: go ahead and make a mess. I'll clean it up
Speaker 1: later and then that way you, you guys or the
Speaker 1: guests don't have to worry in real time about any
Speaker 1: of those things. You can just have the conversation you
Speaker 1: want to have.
Speaker 4: Thank God, Thank Matt. It's fun.
Speaker 1: I always, like Marvel every time I number an episode
Speaker 1: and think, oh my gosh, I can't believe we've done
Speaker 1: this this many times. And that's not even counting, because
Speaker 1: you know our bonus episodes for Beyond Bigfoot and Beyond,
Speaker 1: they're not numbered, and there we're getting close to like
Speaker 1: one hundred. We might even be over one hundred by now,
Speaker 1: so there's been well over three hundred something episodes. It's
Speaker 1: just always amazing to me when I think, oh, man,
Speaker 1: we've been doing this for over half a decade. Yeah,
Speaker 1: it still feels new, and I really enjoy it. And
Speaker 1: as far as like my highlights on a personal level,
Speaker 1: like first of all, I love talking to people that
Speaker 1: I've never gotten to speak to, and so it was
Speaker 1: amazing having like Robert Michael Pylon, because I know you
Speaker 1: guys had talked to him a lot, but you know,
Speaker 1: I was on that call and i'd never met well,
Speaker 1: I met him briefly in Yakima, but I never really
Speaker 1: had a conversation with him. But the thing that I
Speaker 1: really love is taking people that I personally enjoy and
Speaker 1: that I've learned a lot from and bringing them to
Speaker 1: this audience. And so I loved that we had Daryl
Speaker 1: on because I've spent so much time with Darryl Collier
Speaker 1: and he has a lot of great insights, and so
Speaker 1: I was excited for our audience to hear him. The
Speaker 1: same with Mike Mays, who's a dear friend of mine
Speaker 1: that I knew people would love hearing from. Or Paul Bowman.
Speaker 1: You know, it's been a number of these people that
Speaker 1: I'm like, Oh, I can't wait to bring this person
Speaker 1: to our audience because I've, you know, behind closed doors,
Speaker 1: in the field or on the phone, spent so much
Speaker 1: time talking to these people that I just get super
Speaker 1: excited knowing that other people are going to get to
Speaker 1: have the same insights that I gained from talking to
Speaker 1: these folks. So those are the moments I really really love.
Speaker 4: Well, student, all.
Speaker 2: Right, should we hop on the next question?
Speaker 6: Then? Yeah, Hey, Cliff and Bobo, It's day from Dayton, Ohio.
Speaker 6: A big fan of Finding Bigfoot. I've watched every episode
Speaker 6: at least three times. And I've been listening to your
Speaker 6: podcast for probably about the last year and a half.
Speaker 4: I'm not sure if I.
Speaker 6: Believe or not, but what I do love is the
Speaker 6: passion that you guys have in the subject and the
Speaker 6: passion that your guests have, and so I really appreciate that.
Speaker 6: That's one of the reasons that I've watched so much
Speaker 6: and listened so much. But anyway, my question is whether
Speaker 6: there's Bigfoot out there or not. When you guys go
Speaker 6: out in your night investigations, there are known predators out
Speaker 6: there in the areas you're gone, and just watching the
Speaker 6: show or listening to you guys freaks me out about
Speaker 6: what could be out there and what could you know.
Speaker 6: You could get killed from the bears, snakes, cats of
Speaker 6: all kinds that you talk about, and how do you
Speaker 6: get over that or overcome that to go out on
Speaker 6: your investigations. Anyway, love the shows, love your podcast and
Speaker 6: the finding Bigfoot. You guys are awesome. And keep a squatchy.
Speaker 4: Just carry a thermal imagure at night. You'll keep all
Speaker 4: the animals away.
Speaker 2: Yeah, just have a camera with you.
Speaker 4: Yeah.
Speaker 2: I have no worries because you'll never see anything.
Speaker 4: The other thing I'm really worried about is grizzlies is
Speaker 4: maybe a little bit, but not I mean not worried,
Speaker 4: but you know, think about it. And then the wild
Speaker 4: pigs down in the South.
Speaker 2: How do you deal with those?
Speaker 4: Though I haven't had to, but just that's something that
Speaker 4: might cause me a little bit of concern. But I'm
Speaker 4: not even really concerned. I just just noted like there
Speaker 4: is something. There's you know, a possibility of something going
Speaker 4: wrong with you know, an animal interaction.
Speaker 2: Definitely. I mean I'm concerned about cats in particular because
Speaker 2: I'm very dear sized. Bobo's much larger than I am.
Speaker 2: Is that why you don't worry about mountain lions?
Speaker 4: Bobo? Well, I know it might have changed now, but
Speaker 4: up until a few years ago, it was still no
Speaker 4: one over five to nine had ever been attacked by one.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean no, I think we've talked about this
Speaker 2: before in the podcast. But I know here in Oregon
Speaker 2: you're not allowed to hunt them, or one isn't allowed
Speaker 2: to hunt them with dogs anymore. Is that the case
Speaker 2: in California now too?
Speaker 4: Yeah? First our started in nineteen ninety, so our population
Speaker 4: has really gone up since then. I think it's I
Speaker 4: think it's reached it reached its critical point around these areas,
Speaker 4: and it's starting even out because they've knocked off like
Speaker 4: that when you drive through oregansall world's biggest l curd,
Speaker 4: you know, seventy five hundred whatever, and I think it's
Speaker 4: down to like three thousand something like that.
Speaker 2: Well, you know, I worry about mountain lions to some degree,
Speaker 2: and also bears already concerned. I don't worry about them
Speaker 2: too much. But again, I told that story earlier. I
Speaker 2: ran into a bear literally yesterday, less than twenty four
Speaker 2: hours ago. I ran into a big old black bear,
Speaker 2: you know. And for the most part, if you can
Speaker 2: deal with a big dog, you can you can deal
Speaker 2: with a black bear. But now, of course, you know,
Speaker 2: it's rare. It's fairly rare for a big dog to
Speaker 2: kill and eat someone, I would say, and certainly that
Speaker 2: could happen with a black bear. I know that they
Speaker 2: can be very, very dangerous. In fact, I think more
Speaker 2: attacks happened by black bears than grizzly bears. But that
Speaker 2: could just be a population thing, you know, because there's
Speaker 2: a lot more black bears in America or in North
Speaker 2: America than there are grizzlies. I don't know. But for
Speaker 2: the most part, I don't really carry firearms in the woods.
Speaker 2: I do carry bear spray, except for some reason yesterday
Speaker 2: I didn't have it on me. I do carry bear spray,
Speaker 2: and people think I'm nuts for going out there without
Speaker 2: a gun. But there's a couple of reasons for that.
Speaker 2: Is I'm not really a gun guy. You know, I've
Speaker 2: got a couple of firearms, So I'm not a gun guy.
Speaker 2: And I know that because I know some gun guys
Speaker 2: and I'm not one of them. You know, I'm not
Speaker 2: a gun hobbyist. There's nothing wrong with that. In my opinion,
Speaker 2: I'm just not one of them. It doesn't tickle my fancy.
Speaker 2: I've got three point fifty seven and I also have
Speaker 2: my father's Detective Special from like nineteen sixty or sixty one,
Speaker 2: his service gun because he was in Los Angeles County sheriff.
Speaker 2: Then he's passed away now, so it ended up in
Speaker 2: my hands. So yeah, those are my two firearms. But still,
Speaker 2: if that bear yesterday had chosen to charge me, it
Speaker 2: would have been on me. And see, what has about
Speaker 2: three seconds at the most three seconds, and would that
Speaker 2: be enough time for me to put you know, a
Speaker 2: tiny little bullet. Essentially, I've only got five shots in
Speaker 2: the in the firearm. You know, could I put that
Speaker 2: in in a place that would deter the bear or
Speaker 2: just piss it off? So I don't think that a
Speaker 2: gun is my solution. I don't go to the firing range.
Speaker 2: I don't. I don't practice incessantly to get good at
Speaker 2: accuracy under pressure. That's not me, and any gun guy
Speaker 2: out there, gun gal for that matter, will know that, Like,
Speaker 2: that's not a safe situation, right, Like I think any
Speaker 2: firearm expert would say, oh yeah, if you're not practicing,
Speaker 2: then maybe the gun isn't your best choice for a deterrent.
Speaker 2: I think bear spray is because I've shot the bear
Speaker 2: spray stuff, never had a bear. I just wanted to
Speaker 2: see what it did. And I learned a very important lesson,
Speaker 2: you know about wind direction when I did that. But anyway,
Speaker 2: when you shoot a bear spray canis sure a steady
Speaker 2: stream of that vile liquid comes out of it and
Speaker 2: you can see the stream right So to me, that
Speaker 2: means I can correct, Like if I aim badly, I
Speaker 2: can correct in real time as the bear is drawing
Speaker 2: close to me. I can change, Oh I'm too far
Speaker 2: to the right. Well, I wouldn't know that if I
Speaker 2: shot a bullet at the thing unless I happen to
Speaker 2: see it hit the ground or something. But I can
Speaker 2: correct in real time and make sure that I get
Speaker 2: that bear in the face.
Speaker 4: It's like tracer bullets.
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, exactly, but without the singular shot. To me,
Speaker 2: that seems vastly superior as a deterrent. Then a single
Speaker 2: or five bullets would possibly be under that high pressure situation,
Speaker 2: and it seems reasonable to me. I mean that it's
Speaker 2: infinitely more logical for me to carry one of those
Speaker 2: than a bullet. And so the for the gun people
Speaker 2: out there saying, oh, you need a firearm, you heard
Speaker 2: my reason. Do you still think that? I don't think that.
Speaker 2: And as far as mountain lions go, you know, I
Speaker 2: think bear spray is probably pretty effective on them too.
Speaker 2: You're not going to likely hear a mountain lion stalking you.
Speaker 2: You might, but you know, cats are good at what
Speaker 2: they do. And the first indication that what is on
Speaker 2: you could very well be it clamping onto the base
Speaker 2: of your neck from behind, and then what you know. Oh,
Speaker 2: and as far as the TV shows go. Remember you
Speaker 2: may only see Bobo and I on the camera, but
Speaker 2: you know there's a producer there. There's a camera person
Speaker 2: there or you wouldn't see us anyway. There's probably a
Speaker 2: sound person there as well, and maybe even another producer,
Speaker 2: so they just because you see two people on television
Speaker 2: doesn't mean there's only two people there. There's Probablyy're probably
Speaker 2: surrounded by other folks because remember this important lesson TV's
Speaker 2: not real, you know, it's not the experience. The actual
Speaker 2: thing on boots with boots on the ground there while
Speaker 2: it's being shot, does not look like what you see.
Speaker 2: Always keep that in mind. Stay tune for more Bigfoot
Speaker 2: and Beyond with Cliff and Bobo. We'll be right back
Speaker 2: after these messages.
Speaker 4: Should go to the next one.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I think so.
Speaker 7: Hey Cliff, hey Bobo, this is Ian from Olympia, Washington.
Speaker 7: I wanted to know what your thoughts were on the sea,
Speaker 7: Serpent River serpent phenomena and if you have any stories
Speaker 7: or no of any sightings. Also if there are any
Speaker 7: plans to have John kirkback on the podcast. Love what
Speaker 7: you guys do, and I'm always eager to hear the
Speaker 7: new episode.
Speaker 4: Thanks. Yeah, we can have him back on. He's got
Speaker 4: more we could tell us.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I don't know if I think that John's kind
Speaker 2: of stepped out of the public eye. You know, I'm
Speaker 2: not sure what he's doing actually nowadays. So okay, I
Speaker 2: stand Correctedbo, have a seat, man, relax.
Speaker 4: Yeah.
Speaker 2: But as far as the river serpents and stuff, I
Speaker 2: never put I never really thought about him so much
Speaker 2: until Bobo, when I did that Monster Quest episode back
Speaker 2: in maybe two thousand and eight or something like that,
Speaker 2: because we're we were on the Klamath Indian Reservation and
Speaker 2: asking around about bigfoot stuff, and a couple the people
Speaker 2: that we talked to, I, have you ever seen a
Speaker 2: big foot? And they go, no, no, No, I saw
Speaker 2: one of those river serpents though, And I go, what really?
Speaker 2: And like after about the third person to tell me that,
Speaker 2: in like a week, maybe four days, I say, Man,
Speaker 2: there must be really something. There really must be something
Speaker 2: to this. And when you start looking at all the
Speaker 2: sightings of these river serpents, especially on the West coast,
Speaker 2: they all happen in a certain latitude. You know, it's
Speaker 2: between like northern California and Alaska pretty much. You start tracing,
Speaker 2: you start, you start looking around the world for patterns.
Speaker 2: And okay, so a lot of most of those lakes
Speaker 2: that have reported you know, monsters in them like that,
Speaker 2: are the same latitude. You look at a loch Ness,
Speaker 2: same latitude. I say, oh, well, maybe there is something
Speaker 2: going on here, you know, maybe there is something. You
Speaker 2: look for other commonalities. They all seem to be tied
Speaker 2: to a salmon run. Even lock Nest is tied to
Speaker 2: a salmon run. So what are we looking at. I mean,
Speaker 2: they're certainly not dinosaurs. I don't think they're dinosaurs, because
Speaker 2: dinosaurs are reptiles, and reptiles breathe there. All reptiles breath there.
Speaker 2: But I think it's very possible that it could be
Speaker 2: some sort of giant like unknown eel of some sort
Speaker 2: that follows the salmon up the river during you know,
Speaker 2: when those salmon are doing their thing. I don't see
Speaker 2: any reason to discount that possibility. And it's also interesting
Speaker 2: to note that I forget his name, I know Melgrum
Speaker 2: was talking to him, the New Zealand dude who was
Speaker 2: interested in the E DNA. He tested the loch Ness
Speaker 2: for E DNA and looking for dinosaur stuff, you know,
Speaker 2: because reptiles and the way that NeSSI the monster there
Speaker 2: in loch Ness is always depicted as being some sort
Speaker 2: of plesiosaur or something like that. They didn't find any
Speaker 2: reptile DNA in the lake, but they did find a tremendous,
Speaker 2: surprising amount I believe of eel DNA. So well, is
Speaker 2: that something that that little tidbit of information surfaces after,
Speaker 2: you know, devised this hypothesis of some sort of like,
Speaker 2: you know, river ocean going eel creature. So that's that's
Speaker 2: what I think. That's where my money is. If I
Speaker 2: had ten bucks to put down on that, I would
Speaker 2: put it on that some sort of giant river eel
Speaker 2: sort of thing that follows the salmon runs up the river.
Speaker 2: But I know Bobo has more information because he lives
Speaker 2: not far from the Klamath River and has has relations
Speaker 2: with a lot of Native people who have seen these
Speaker 2: things and whatever else.
Speaker 4: What do you know, Bobs, I don't think they've seen
Speaker 4: him too Well, there's no salmon this year, but I
Speaker 4: don't think they've seen as far as I know here
Speaker 4: on the Klamath or they haven't seen much of them
Speaker 4: in the last couple of years. I heard a couple
Speaker 4: of settings it was probably god like five years ago, now,
Speaker 4: four years ago, six years ago, I heard like two
Speaker 4: or three settings that year there was a big salmon run,
Speaker 4: but I haven't heard anything since. And but yeah, I
Speaker 4: mean I first really kind of I found out, Like
Speaker 4: when I found out like, oh, these things are real,
Speaker 4: was when I was up in the Living Peninsula and
Speaker 4: I was in Qweets. They sort of been back in
Speaker 4: like the late nineties or so, and I was, you know,
Speaker 4: going around asking them about Bigfoot, and then a couple
Speaker 4: of guys mentioned, I can't know what the god what
Speaker 4: the Quinnaults call the river sea serpents, but they were
Speaker 4: saying yeah, they said, well we got these ones. And
Speaker 4: then guy goes, yeah, I just chewed up our nets.
Speaker 4: And they went and there's they had a little fish
Speaker 4: buying plant there from the tribal members there on the
Speaker 4: Queets River, and they had a process, a little process,
Speaker 4: you know, like the buyers can come in there or
Speaker 4: whatever and they could sell their wares, but they would
Speaker 4: mend nets and there was a like a small warehouse
Speaker 4: and behind it there's these nets and everything. I think
Speaker 4: is that these nets are fifteen hundred bucks each, and
Speaker 4: he was holding them up there's you can see where
Speaker 4: the sound would get hung up and by their gills
Speaker 4: and something was coming through and eating the fish out
Speaker 4: of the net, just biting like and they said they
Speaker 4: they'd hook it. They could, they could hook them, but
Speaker 4: they would just snap the line. Like they were so
Speaker 4: powerful that you couldn't catch them, and you couldn't net
Speaker 4: them because they could cheet their way through like anything.
Speaker 4: They could snap steel leaders and stuff like. It's, uh,
Speaker 4: you're not gonna they're they're not going to catch them
Speaker 4: with what they have. But I remember them telling me
Speaker 4: about watching the uh they you know, one of the
Speaker 4: they'd have something tied off on shore and then they'd
Speaker 4: from the other side. They'd take like a fill up
Speaker 4: big bags full of gravel that weighed about four hundred
Speaker 4: pounds each and they would have those waiting down as
Speaker 4: another anchor point for the net. And this this uh,
Speaker 4: this big one was dragged there in the daylight, right
Speaker 4: in town with a where the river runs through town.
Speaker 4: They watched this net getting dragged up river against the
Speaker 4: current coming down and then you know, it's a pretty
Speaker 4: just a good sized river and I mean swim swim
Speaker 4: up river dragging the net way down with four hundred
Speaker 4: pound anchor, you know, rocks. It's that I was. I
Speaker 4: was like, well, so this this is real, you know,
Speaker 4: I was tripping, And then when I went back down,
Speaker 4: I was asking something insight about like oh yeah we
Speaker 4: got yeah camos cameos, and like they all were like, yeah, yeah, yeah,
Speaker 4: matter of fact, we got there. We got the same thing.
Speaker 4: And I never saw one. But I was fishing on
Speaker 4: a boat ninety three or ninety four, I think it was, Yeah,
Speaker 4: I think it was ninety four. Yeah, it was thirty
Speaker 4: years ago. We were off Central organ I think off
Speaker 4: Newport somewheres, and we were dragging a shrimp and we
Speaker 4: were in pretty deep water and it was real foggy.
Speaker 4: We were out, we were several miles out. We were
Speaker 4: in a pretty couple a couple of hundred fathoms for sure,
Speaker 4: and all of a sudden we went through You go
Speaker 4: through these like you know, it was out there when
Speaker 4: you're in those fog banks. You also know from these
Speaker 4: blue holes where it's like a circle of like you know,
Speaker 4: like a it's like a meadow in the middle of
Speaker 4: a forest. You know, it's a clearing, And we were
Speaker 4: going through one of those. We were we were getting
Speaker 4: like real dirty toes, like we were catching a lot
Speaker 4: of by products, like a lot of drift woods, like
Speaker 4: you know, sunking sticks and stuff, or getting tons of that.
Speaker 4: Could you dragging that across the bottom and so you're
Speaker 4: getting all this bottom stuff and so we're getting like
Speaker 4: really dirty toes, like lots of buy so you gotta
Speaker 4: he goes by these belts like factory belts. It's like,
Speaker 4: you know, I love lucy skips for like you're trying
Speaker 4: to pick out the stuff that doesn't belong to getting
Speaker 4: backed up and the skipper comes out and this guy
Speaker 4: was gnarly and if he did not want to come
Speaker 4: on the back deck because you know you're gonna gtr
Speaker 4: asshoed out and you never know if he's gonna half
Speaker 4: beat some of the death that I was pretty wild.
Speaker 4: He came out, he looked he just had this shock
Speaker 4: look on his face and he just goes, did you
Speaker 4: see that? I was like, like I thought he missed
Speaker 4: something on the like I've let something go by, And
Speaker 4: I go, no, no, like what what he's So he
Speaker 4: was just in shock. He goes, I just saw a
Speaker 4: sea sea monster or a sea serpent. I can't remember
Speaker 4: it exact wording. What he's like. The thing was sw
Speaker 4: right off the port rail, looked right at me and
Speaker 4: kept swimming. It was undulating like it wasn't like a dinosaur.
Speaker 4: It was a like an eel shape, but the head
Speaker 4: was kind of funky. He said. It looked like kind
Speaker 4: of crossturing, like a horse and a eel and a
Speaker 4: crocodile kind of all mixed in together. And then it
Speaker 4: said it had like a main looking thing. It wasn't
Speaker 4: sure if it was just it's like some seaweed seagrass
Speaker 4: stuck around its neck, because you know, I could that's
Speaker 4: foot on the surface, so you know, if things going
Speaker 4: along it, that could happen. You know, I could see
Speaker 4: that happened like some if it had something to hook onto,
Speaker 4: you know, like they had some kind of bony protrusion
Speaker 4: up there or something, you know, like some kind of
Speaker 4: defensive armament on it or whatever. Like I could see
Speaker 4: that snaging that stuff as it's going through the water.
Speaker 4: But yeah, he saw the classic three humps, Like the
Speaker 4: middle humps were like the size of fifty fifty five
Speaker 4: goal on drum, and uh yeah, there was three big
Speaker 4: undulating humps and then the neck stuck out of the
Speaker 4: water about twelve feet or so. Then the head was big,
Speaker 4: like like a three foot head on it.
Speaker 2: River serpents, sea monsters, why not. I think it's one
Speaker 2: of the big ones that are probably out there. I
Speaker 2: mean a lot of the crypto stuff. I don't even
Speaker 2: think it's real. I have grave doubts about dog man.
Speaker 2: I don't think mothmann is really a thing at all.
Speaker 2: And you know, enjoy it, have fun with it and stuff,
Speaker 2: But I don't see the ecological niche. I don't think
Speaker 2: these things are biology. They're from just not interested in it.
Speaker 2: But I think that these river serpents and lake monsters, yeah, yeah,
Speaker 2: they're there. I'm pretty sure they're there. They pass all
Speaker 2: the tests, so to speak. You know, the native people
Speaker 2: are seeming to be aware of them in viable habitat.
Speaker 2: There's still sightings nowadays. There's an ecological niche for them.
Speaker 2: I think that they're probably real. I'm not particularly interested
Speaker 2: in them necessarily, like I am in Sasquatch. I mean,
Speaker 2: I don't have time for anything else but bigfoot. So
Speaker 2: that's why other people are interested in it. So I
Speaker 2: can see what they're up to.
Speaker 4: Yeah, I always said, I think I thought that discovered
Speaker 4: before the squatch, and then that open up bigfoot research
Speaker 4: because if this is real, then why not bigfoot too,
Speaker 4: you know, because I was sure they'd get one of
Speaker 4: those if they're just you know, like they're just a
Speaker 4: like a large eel or something. I mean, they're not
Speaker 4: they're not smart like a bigfoot. They should get caught
Speaker 4: way before a bigfoot. It's caught.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's just that people I think fishing in those
Speaker 2: spots or whatever don't have the gear, because even the
Speaker 2: big sturgeon gear, I'm not sure it would do the trick.
Speaker 4: You know, I don't think so they said the teeth
Speaker 4: on them or like in saying that sounds like they
Speaker 4: you know, because there's something else thought there was some
Speaker 4: pretty wicked teeth, you.
Speaker 2: Know, so like a lamprey or something.
Speaker 4: You know, Yeah, so I could see, like, you know,
Speaker 4: something with the fifty sixty feet long, I guess the
Speaker 4: average ones that we hear about are mostly like forty
Speaker 4: foot thirty to forty.
Speaker 2: I think most of the stuff on the queath are the clamate.
Speaker 2: I remember, we're about twenty to thirty five somewhere in there.
Speaker 2: And I love how people say, oh, they're just seeing sturgeons.
Speaker 2: It's like, oh, come on, have some respect for these people.
Speaker 2: They live on the river, like they've always lived on
Speaker 2: the river. They know what a sturgeon looks like. Come on.
Speaker 2: It reminded me of that Good Morning America thing, that
Speaker 2: that hit job they did on the on Freeman on
Speaker 2: Paul Freeman, where they mentioned to West Summerlin, of all people,
Speaker 2: well maybe you're just seeing bears. I know, to Wes Summerlin,
Speaker 2: like you don't know what a bear looks like. Like
Speaker 2: some jackass from New York is telling Wes Summerlin he
Speaker 2: doesn't know what a bear looks like. But yeah, anyway, Ian,
Speaker 2: I think that's the answer for you. Thanks for listening
Speaker 2: and thanks for the question. Submit another one. We'd love
Speaker 2: to hear from you more. Stay tuned for more Bigfoot
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Speaker 2: question and see what that one's about.
Speaker 4: Hello, my name is Joe from Ohio.
Speaker 3: I often go hiking in an area where there's big
Speaker 3: Foot sightings and I bring bear Mace. I was wondering
Speaker 3: if bear Mace would even do any good, or if
Speaker 3: it would just piss them off?
Speaker 6: Thank you?
Speaker 4: What's up?
Speaker 1: In the background sounded like he was accompanied by someone who,
Speaker 1: in that brief moment, didn't sound terribly thrilled.
Speaker 2: Joe was here for the for the question. Maybe that
Speaker 2: person was there for the punctuation mark, Yeah, can.
Speaker 4: You plan it again for I want to hear it.
Speaker 4: I couldn't hear what she said.
Speaker 2: Let's hear it. Yeah, that'll be fun.
Speaker 3: I was wondering if bear mace would even do any good,
Speaker 3: or if it would just piss them off.
Speaker 8: Thank you.
Speaker 2: I think I might have pissed her off.
Speaker 4: All I heard was, ah, that was hilarious.
Speaker 2: All right, Joe Ohio, if that is your real name.
Speaker 4: I just I just listened to an old repeat of
Speaker 4: a classic of the Sasquatch Chronicles. Wes had a guy
Speaker 4: in there who had an in depth story about spraying
Speaker 4: one a few times and it just made it mad.
Speaker 4: And it didn't It didn't make it avoid It's like
Speaker 4: change its course or anything. It just just stood there
Speaker 4: and got more more angry. Then came at him.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm not I'm not so sure that you died,
Speaker 2: you know, know be you know bear mace or whatever
Speaker 2: for a sasquatch at all, you'd be lucky if one
Speaker 2: got close enough to even use it. Yeah, and I
Speaker 2: know we don't hear from the people who didn't survive
Speaker 2: those sort of encounters with sasquatches. But at the same time,
Speaker 2: there's no reason to think that they would get you,
Speaker 2: so to speak, and honestly, how else do you want
Speaker 2: to die? Like what cooler way is there to die?
Speaker 2: The answer is none, by the way to that one.
Speaker 4: For a horrifying death. That's the one that for sure.
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, big shark or that right, for a horrifying death.
Speaker 2: And you know, imagine like if you die right and say,
Speaker 2: there is such a thing as a heaven or for
Speaker 2: lack of a better term, Okay, so you die, you
Speaker 2: go to heaven. You saddle up to the bar in heaven,
Speaker 2: right in Saint Peter service the drink and says and
Speaker 2: like the turn of the guy next to you, you know,
Speaker 2: how'd you die? And it's oh, I like congenital heart failure,
Speaker 2: you know, the hospital tubes in every orifice, a bunch
Speaker 2: of needles and stuff stuck in me. What about you? Oh,
Speaker 2: I was looking for a sasquatch and one caught me
Speaker 2: and then twisted my head off and then family ate me.
Speaker 4: Yeah you win.
Speaker 2: You got free drinks forever in heaven. Yeah, and who
Speaker 2: doesn't want free drinks forever in heaven.
Speaker 4: I think everyone gets free drinks for ever in heaven.
Speaker 2: Clive Bobes, come on, it's my theology, it's my personal
Speaker 2: relationship with the bartender in jar. Yeah, but I don't
Speaker 2: I don't see the need for a bear spray for sasquatches.
Speaker 2: You should be so lucky.
Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean, if one was charged me, I'd rather
Speaker 4: have it than not. But I think a big fit's
Speaker 4: really out to get You're probably not even gonna know.
Speaker 4: I mean you might know, but it's gonna be. They're
Speaker 4: so fast and they're so strong, and like we hear
Speaker 4: about them jumping out and snagging deer before deer which
Speaker 4: are way quicker, before they can respond. They got a
Speaker 4: broken neck.
Speaker 2: Yeah, they're ambush predators, ambush predators that killed deer for
Speaker 2: a living, you know. And yeah, yeah, yeah, joehyo, I'm
Speaker 2: not so sure that you need to worry about that
Speaker 2: at this point. Give it a shot. I think it's
Speaker 2: about an equal opportunity as as staving off a grizzly
Speaker 2: bear under similar circumstances.
Speaker 4: I know, bear's got way more sensitive. I mean just
Speaker 4: the olfactory sensors of the bear.
Speaker 2: That's true. That's true.
Speaker 4: I got based in the face. I just shoved it off.
Speaker 2: Really, how'd that happen? Way again around?
Speaker 1: It's Bobo story, dude, he go see some things that
Speaker 1: all roo my classic.
Speaker 4: An EM scene.
Speaker 1: He's flying and he's going a kid, kill me high
Speaker 1: for you.
Speaker 4: Once again, it's Bobo story.
Speaker 1: Any description of felonious or criminal activity is being told
Speaker 1: here strictly for entertainment purposes, and is in no way
Speaker 1: admission of guilt or even true for that matter.
Speaker 4: We were down on a surf trip down on Baja
Speaker 4: and we were staying at Cobblestone Point. We were down
Speaker 4: there and it was Fourth of July week. It was
Speaker 4: packed and there were all these gang bangers from southern California.
Speaker 4: We're in this campground where we were at, and they
Speaker 4: were getting pretty out of they were getting pretty rowdy,
Speaker 4: and there was a few fights in the campground and
Speaker 4: between like surfers and them guys and whatever, and it
Speaker 4: was kind of tense. And we went to bed and
Speaker 4: about three point thirty four in the morning, the stage
Speaker 4: line comes flying into the parking lot and it's doing
Speaker 4: blasting huge donuts in the middle of the parking area,
Speaker 4: and like around the parking here it's lined with people
Speaker 4: camping like they have their you know, vehicles. And it
Speaker 4: was our buddy Fletcher. Fletcher is this huge guy. He's
Speaker 4: the guitar player for that punk band Pennywise, and he'd
Speaker 4: been out drinking and he just came back like way late,
Speaker 4: and he was shooting Roman candles out of this station
Speaker 4: wagon like dude, and he broke at least three or
Speaker 4: four windows and like dnin cars like those those Bato
Speaker 4: dudes from like up and in California had like you know,
Speaker 4: the classic low riders and stuff like that's their whole
Speaker 4: Like this their life, dude, it's like their most prized
Speaker 4: position by far, like they're their babies. And here's Fletcher
Speaker 4: springing with gravel and shooting fire, like exploding balls of
Speaker 4: fire out of them and then and kicked off this
Speaker 4: like riot down on the beach, like there's several hundred
Speaker 4: people involved. It was just nuts. And this uh Federally
Speaker 4: there was federalis that came and the Federals were coming through,
Speaker 4: and the one federal I pointed a gun right at me,
Speaker 4: like right at my face, and he caught the trigger.
Speaker 4: Because I was kind of one of the bigger guys
Speaker 4: there for sure, and like I was just trying to
Speaker 4: break break people up, like get my friends like away,
Speaker 4: and like just you know, I was. I was trying
Speaker 4: to calm things down. And so then he he luckily
Speaker 4: didn't shoot. And then but then the right like two
Speaker 4: three seconds, the guy right by him turns points and
Speaker 4: he has a canvas mace and he just blasting point
Speaker 4: blank in the face. And I mean I ended up,
Speaker 4: you know, running into the after about ten minutes, going
Speaker 4: to the cooler and taking an ice out and rubbing
Speaker 4: into the water and ice on my eyes and trying
Speaker 4: to find milk or something. But but I mean I still, like,
Speaker 4: you know, I was able to function.
Speaker 2: Well, what was it like when don't when it hits
Speaker 2: your eyes or did it did you close your eyes
Speaker 2: or did it go in your your nose or yeah, I.
Speaker 4: Mean it blasted me like my whole face, I get
Speaker 4: into my nose and eyes and yeah, I mean it burned.
Speaker 4: Don't get me wrong, Like I didn't like it. It
Speaker 4: was but I still was able, Like I was pulling
Speaker 4: guys apart, like it was by sight was really blurry,
Speaker 4: and I was, you know, you have a snot pouring
Speaker 4: out of you and you're tearing up real bad. You
Speaker 4: can't see real well. I mean I was still able
Speaker 4: to I was still able to function and like do
Speaker 4: what I was trying to do for like another ten
Speaker 4: minutes before I like, once things calmed down a little
Speaker 4: bit more than I ended up running over to the
Speaker 4: cooler and trying to wash it out, which of course
Speaker 4: made it worse.
Speaker 2: Yeah, so it sounds like a little bit of your
Speaker 2: resilience there was perhaps due to adrenaline.
Speaker 4: Sure, my adrenaline was definitely flun because I thought I
Speaker 4: thought people were to start getting shot, stabbed and stuff.
Speaker 4: I think I think the right have been. None of
Speaker 4: our guys got hurt, but I think I think a
Speaker 4: couple of surfers might have got sliced or stabbed or
Speaker 4: something like. I don't know if it was broken bottles
Speaker 4: or or knives or whatever, but there was a few
Speaker 4: guys that got injured kind of bad, but not not
Speaker 4: like for how hectic the situation was. It was like
Speaker 4: there was you know, probably quite a few black eyes
Speaker 4: and bumps and bruises. But I mean these dudes are
Speaker 4: like some pretty narrowly like you know fully you know,
Speaker 4: like face tats all that kind of stuff. So these guys,
Speaker 4: you know, you didn't want to be messing with those dudes.
Speaker 4: That's awesome, Like just get it calmed down.
Speaker 2: Yeah, you try to try to crawl everybody into a
Speaker 2: dance off to solve the problem.
Speaker 4: Yeah, everyone go loose.
Speaker 2: I think it's a world leaders really should be doing.
Speaker 2: You know, like if you think it's so important to
Speaker 2: go kill people about it, then dance for it, you know.
Speaker 2: Can you imagine like presidents and premieres, and then there's
Speaker 2: like leaders of various countries getting together to solve their
Speaker 2: albums by having a dance off.
Speaker 4: The Russians come out doing their cossic da actually drop
Speaker 4: down on the ground like yeah, you know, kick their
Speaker 4: legs out and pop up them down and yeah you
Speaker 4: do like your traditional it's like you got served exactly.
Speaker 2: That'd be great. I think really even the playing field
Speaker 2: for a lot of countries, the smaller countries in particular,
Speaker 2: with perhaps not as much military budget, siphoning all that
Speaker 2: money off and putting into a dancing budget. But then again,
Speaker 2: you know what, Brazil would just rule the planet. Samba
Speaker 2: samba and stuff like that. Yeah, because you've seen the
Speaker 2: samba parades and stuff. Yeah, yeah, nobody could withstand that.
Speaker 4: Well, I don't know, you might it like the Zulus,
Speaker 4: you know, doing the pogo that pogo dance.
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, yeah, there's some amazing African dances too, like
Speaker 2: I don't even know what it's called, the amazing costume
Speaker 2: and like the shimmying dancing that looks like they're hovering,
Speaker 2: and it's like, oh, phenomenal stuff. And then everybody would
Speaker 2: just like end up hugging each other. That's my dream,
Speaker 2: a dance off that ends and hugs.
Speaker 4: It's coming.
Speaker 2: Yeah anyway, all right, Joehio, thank you so much. Go
Speaker 2: ahead and play the next voicemail and we'll get to
Speaker 2: that one.
Speaker 8: Hey there, Bobo and Cliff, listen to your podcast all
Speaker 8: the time. My name is Holly and I'm from Texas,
Speaker 8: and I would like to know what part of Oregon
Speaker 8: near Mount Hood is known for seeing Bigfoot the most.
Speaker 8: Thank you and keep it.
Speaker 4: Squashy, squashy. But I thought she said I'm whatever her
Speaker 4: name was, and I'm a sexist. I guess it was.
Speaker 4: I'm from Texas, Yeah, Texas. Yeah.
Speaker 2: I don't think Holly's a sexist. I don't know her personally.
Speaker 2: Maybe she did, I don't know, but I would like
Speaker 2: to think that most of, if not all, of our
Speaker 2: listeners are actually just fine people, and I'm pretty sure
Speaker 2: Holly is one of them.
Speaker 4: She said, you don't know me, mister.
Speaker 1: She's a gorg sympathizer.
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, yeah, she loves gords and pumpkins. Keep it squashy, Holly.
Speaker 2: I guess I can take this one. The most reported
Speaker 2: sidings in the Mountain Hood area. In fact, all of
Speaker 2: Oregon come from Clacamus County, which is where I live.
Speaker 2: It's where the museum is. Lots and lots of people
Speaker 2: live there, and I think that's part of the key
Speaker 2: right there. Mount Hood National Forest actually is one of
Speaker 2: the most visited national forests anywhere in the United States.
Speaker 2: A lot of people come here because it is so beautiful,
Speaker 2: and also a lot of people live nearby in Portland,
Speaker 2: for example, or Bend, or you know, even Seattle. It's
Speaker 2: not that far, a couple hours at the most Eugene.
Speaker 2: All these places are within like two or three hours
Speaker 2: distance of mountain Hood National Forest and it is absolutely
Speaker 2: beautiful here. So a lot of people come here and
Speaker 2: wherever there are sasquatches in any number and a lot
Speaker 2: of people, there are a lot of sightings come out
Speaker 2: of those areas. So in the mount Hood area, Clacamus
Speaker 2: County is going to be the answer. In fact, part
Speaker 2: of Clacamus County is actually suburbia and city and other
Speaker 2: parts of Blackamas County, like where I live, you can't
Speaker 2: see your neighbors, you know. It's one of those things,
Speaker 2: very very rural. So that's why Clackamas County has the
Speaker 2: most sighting reports. But if you were going to come
Speaker 2: to mountain Hood National Forest to go bigfooting and then
Speaker 2: you're a camp ground sort of person, I would say
Speaker 2: go to Timothy Lake. Timothy Lake has a lot of
Speaker 2: bigfoot reports out of there because a lot of people
Speaker 2: camp there. There's like two or three or so develop
Speaker 2: Forest Service campgrounds on one side of the lake, almost
Speaker 2: nothing on the other side of the lake. And by
Speaker 2: those campgrounds is the boundary to the Warm Springs Indian Reservation,
Speaker 2: and there are definitely sasquatches on Warm Springs and a
Speaker 2: lot most of the Sidings from the Timothy Lake area,
Speaker 2: come from the south side of the lake closest to
Speaker 2: the reservation border. So that's where I would go if
Speaker 2: I were you, if you're a campground kind of person.
Speaker 2: But I hope that answers your question, Holly, who's not
Speaker 2: sexist from Texas?
Speaker 4: Yeah, the first off, this is one of the only
Speaker 4: times I can say this in the last fifteen years.
Speaker 4: I was coming from the I was coming to meet you, Cliff,
Speaker 4: and I was out there in my do you remember
Speaker 4: that when I was like hours late because my Google
Speaker 4: I showed you on the like where the Google Maps
Speaker 4: took me, and it was crazy down logging roads. I
Speaker 4: had to put it in four wheel drive and then
Speaker 4: I ended up coming on the back when to Timothy Lake,
Speaker 4: and dude, my squatch radar was like my hair was
Speaker 4: up and I was like there, I didn't even I
Speaker 4: didn't know I was a Timothy Lake and I obviously
Speaker 4: heard of Timothy Lake a lot, and I was like,
Speaker 4: no way, this place is like I and like I
Speaker 4: felt like I could tell where they were, like they
Speaker 4: were there's big foots over there, and like I I
Speaker 4: almost never get that, Like it's like years and years
Speaker 4: and years before I where I'll have like where I'm
Speaker 4: just like I know there's one there and or they're
Speaker 4: they're there them and yeah, like Toothy Lake. I had that.
Speaker 4: That was like the strongest sense I've got that out
Speaker 4: of anywhere in the last ten years. I'd say something
Speaker 4: like I'm like, this is there there right here. Then
Speaker 4: I'll tell you. I was like, yeah, I came up
Speaker 4: to this spot that was like, yes, that is Timothy
Speaker 4: Like I was like, oh, dang, yeah, that was squatchy,
Speaker 4: Like just just looking at it screams a bigfoot.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 4: Yeah.
Speaker 2: Stuff happens there quite quite often. I haven't heard anything
Speaker 2: this summer season yet, but most recent thing was less
Speaker 2: than a year ago. Really nice footprints just to the
Speaker 2: south of Timothy Lake. I know people who have seen
Speaker 2: sasquatches inside the campgrounds. At like four in the morning,
Speaker 2: something will come up. They went to go take a
Speaker 2: leak or something and they saw a sasquatch from it
Speaker 2: a stance, but it's still like you know that gray
Speaker 2: light early morning stuff walking away from one of the
Speaker 2: dumpsters in there. I think an excellent strategy would be
Speaker 2: find out what days they pick up the dumpsters and
Speaker 2: then camp a night or two before that, you know,
Speaker 2: so the dumpsters are nice and full, and just stay
Speaker 2: up and put a therm on those dumpsters and check
Speaker 2: it out. You know. I think that's been an excellent strategy.
Speaker 2: And if I didn't have such a revulsion to camp
Speaker 2: around other people, that something that I would probably do too,
Speaker 2: But I just cannot tolerate to do that, so I won't.
Speaker 4: Yeah in either.
Speaker 2: All right, so we have one more voicemail, so we're
Speaker 2: going to tackle that and then pop off and go
Speaker 2: do the members section, because the members get their own
Speaker 2: Q and A. And of course, if anybody wants to
Speaker 2: submit a question for the regular episodes for next month,
Speaker 2: you can do so by going to Big Thing to
Speaker 2: Beyond podcast dot com and hitting the contact button and
Speaker 2: leading us a voicemail or typing up a question. This episode,
Speaker 2: we only got to voicemails, which is kind of cool.
Speaker 2: I really do like listening to people as opposed to
Speaker 2: reading their questions, So yeah, go ahead. Mister Matt Brute
Speaker 2: played the last one for us.
Speaker 1: This one's great because it includes an impression of Bobo
Speaker 1: doing an impression, so listen to well.
Speaker 8: Hello, I'm a big fan. I just want to know
Speaker 8: your greatest stories from that Moneymaker throughout finding Bigfoot.
Speaker 2: Thank you.
Speaker 4: Here's do the money Maker a personation, not a bobo impersonation.
Speaker 1: Yeah, but you always going wow, hell when you're doing that.
Speaker 1: So you've done it on the podcast a bunch of times,
Speaker 1: and I think that, Yeah, that's so, that's I think
Speaker 1: what he's aimed for. Okay, so it's like an inception.
Speaker 2: Well you know, you know why a moneymaker does how
Speaker 2: you know why he does that? It's a la Vernon
Speaker 2: Shirley reference. Yeah, yeah, I asked him. You said, yeah,
Speaker 2: you sound like Squiggy from Lavernon Shirley. He goes, oh, yeah,
Speaker 2: that's what that's what I'm doing. I said, no kidding,
Speaker 2: I've known you for years and I'm just learning that now.
Speaker 4: I knew. I knew he was doing it. Yeah, I
Speaker 4: knew it was just the way he did it because
Speaker 4: he did it really well.
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, and you know, like half our audience is like,
Speaker 2: what what's Lavernon Shirley We got.
Speaker 4: For the old audience? Because you should see the numbers.
Speaker 4: We're younger than our average listener, aren't. No, yeah really yeah.
Speaker 4: The numbers I saw was I think like our average
Speaker 4: aged listener was like sixty four or something. Oh, you
Speaker 4: know what, I'm sorry, it's not it's not that it's
Speaker 4: my Facebook page. That's that's what it is.
Speaker 2: Okay, But God, the best, the best money maker stories,
Speaker 2: actually the best stories about any of us should never
Speaker 2: be told. Supper cat fires, Yeah, just should never be told.
Speaker 2: And there should always be a level of plausible deniability
Speaker 2: I think in all of these.
Speaker 6: Yeah.
Speaker 2: Uh, the one that comes to mind that I think
Speaker 2: is a great story that I don't think Matt would
Speaker 2: mind us telling or sharing was the boat in Vermont.
Speaker 4: I laugh every time.
Speaker 2: I often forget about it, but uh, Matt was in
Speaker 2: a bad mood that night. I do remember that, and
Speaker 2: he if you look at the Vermont episode, the whole
Speaker 2: thing was like search technique wise, we're around this lake somewhere.
Speaker 2: I forget where Matt was gonna be in the boat
Speaker 2: and we're gonna be walking around doing what will be doing?
Speaker 2: I think somebody was gonna be call. You were gonna
Speaker 2: be calling somewhere. I forget what it was. But Matt
Speaker 2: was in a bad mood that night, and he was
Speaker 2: generally a little unco operative, shall we say, Well, yeah,
Speaker 2: he was having a hard time that week or whatever.
Speaker 2: And and basically at the end of the day he
Speaker 2: was he, oh, it was a rowboat. He didn't want
Speaker 2: to didn't want a row so he had the production
Speaker 2: find an electric motor somehow, And and right when he
Speaker 2: got out on the on the on the boat not
Speaker 2: far from shore, like fifteen twenty thirty feet from shore,
Speaker 2: he shifted weight somehow and the boat went under, like
Speaker 2: he capsized the boat somehow.
Speaker 4: Well it was it was the production's fault because it
Speaker 4: didn't tell him that if you if he went back
Speaker 4: over this because it was a time that was like,
Speaker 4: you know, an eight foot little dinghy sabath looking thing,
Speaker 4: and he uh, he went to the back and there
Speaker 4: he leaned over to look. He leaned over the back
Speaker 4: to look over like where the engine was, and it
Speaker 4: just you know, flipped up and then flipped over. And
Speaker 4: I was I was watching Matt from I was looking
Speaker 4: from above, looking down at him, and I remember just
Speaker 4: seeing like like, oh, he dropped his light and splash it.
Speaker 4: I was like, no, this is awesome. And then I
Speaker 4: hear like his cussing, and then I don't hear anything,
Speaker 4: and then his light was underwater and all of a sudden,
Speaker 4: this light comes to the surface, and you just heard
Speaker 4: Monaker screaming and cussing because it was it was below freezing.
Speaker 4: It was like twenty something degrees that night, and the
Speaker 4: water was like probably thirty eight degrees or something, and
Speaker 4: money taker just goes into it, just bloop and he
Speaker 4: then so he was mad that the production didn't warn
Speaker 4: didn't warn him about leaning over the back of a
Speaker 4: little boat like that, how you could flip it. And
Speaker 4: he was just screaming and hollering, and then he cussed out,
Speaker 4: like and he blamed it on a howl Chad. You didn't,
Speaker 4: you know, like he's giving Jad Chad grief about not
Speaker 4: properly instructing him on how to use that boat, and
Speaker 4: so it was his fault that he got all wet,
Speaker 4: and so yeah, I go take it out of a cliff.
Speaker 2: Well, I do remember he got back on shore and
Speaker 2: then he looked out and he saw his light on
Speaker 2: the bottom of the lake. And to Matt's credit, he
Speaker 2: swam out in the lake and freezing temperatures and went
Speaker 2: down and retrieved his light. But you know, the rest
Speaker 2: of the we and we seldom shot the night stuff yet,
Speaker 2: so Matt still had to go out on the boat
Speaker 2: and still had to get filmed doing the stuff well,
Speaker 2: and we still had to go walk around and do
Speaker 2: our deal and stuff. So if you ever watched that
Speaker 2: Vermont episode, Matt didn't get a lot of camera time
Speaker 2: for a very good reason. And when he was on
Speaker 2: camera his bummed out facial expression. Well, now you know why.
Speaker 2: Now you know why. And of course there's more to
Speaker 2: it than that and stuff, and it was just a
Speaker 2: heck of an evening, like so many of the other
Speaker 2: ones were just a heck of an evening. Really difficult
Speaker 2: to get through sometimes because that's big footing and if
Speaker 2: something can go wrong, it will go wrong almost every
Speaker 2: single time. And that was kind of the story of
Speaker 2: finding Bigfoot. Somehow we made it through, somehow we recorded sasquatches,
Speaker 2: and somehow people enjoyed the show, So that's all that
Speaker 2: matters at this point. Yeah, a lot of stuff I
Speaker 2: didn't get to see. I just heard about it afterwards
Speaker 2: from production or something like. There was one scene I
Speaker 2: get I think we're in Michigan up somewhere. I think
Speaker 2: that he was supposed to be in this little blind yeah,
Speaker 2: I guess, with iron lights around him and stuff and like,
Speaker 2: and he was out solo doing a thing while we're
Speaker 2: walking around doing our thing, and he was at this
Speaker 2: one position and I guess he fell asleep when the
Speaker 2: camera was on. He fell asleep on camera, So they
Speaker 2: just reshoot some of that for later. I don't know,
Speaker 2: but TV man, it's one of those things. But you know, Matt,
Speaker 2: Matt is prone to fall asleep anyway.
Speaker 4: He's the best, he's a champ, he's a world chap.
Speaker 4: But sleeping like drop of a hat anywhere, Like, oh,
Speaker 4: there's a pile of broken glass and rocks, I'll sleep there.
Speaker 2: Yeah, on top of a cooler and then like a
Speaker 2: small cooler. He'll curl up and fell asleep in restaurants
Speaker 2: and stuff. Yeah, he's got a gift, man.
Speaker 4: He's kind of he does that Buddha pos like he's
Speaker 4: laying on his side with his with his hand and
Speaker 4: hold his head up on one side on his elbow. Yeah. Yeah.
Speaker 2: And it was such a it was such a common
Speaker 2: theme that towards the end of the show, not at
Speaker 2: the very end, but towards the end of the show,
Speaker 2: we all kind of threw our pictures of Matt in
Speaker 2: that one position together made a calendar out of it.
Speaker 4: Yeah, waiting on snow, parking lots, laundry mats.
Speaker 2: So anyway, Yeah, there's a couple of stories for you there.
Speaker 2: I hope that satisfies your need for moneymaker stories.
Speaker 4: No, it just wets it.
Speaker 2: Yeah, we all have it. We all have that need.
Speaker 4: Mine's a full raging desire.
Speaker 2: Yeah, yours is an addiction man moneymaker stories. Well, there
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