Speaker 1: Now one of your pudding.
Speaker 2: I got a string going on here, something just because
Speaker 2: my dog.
Speaker 1: Something killed your dog? My dog.
Speaker 2: We're flying through the air over the tree.
Speaker 1: I don't know.
Speaker 2: How it did it, Okay, Damn, I'm really confused. All
Speaker 2: I saw was my dog.
Speaker 1: Coming over the fence and he was dead. And once
Speaker 1: you hit the.
Speaker 3: Ground like, I didn't see any cars.
Speaker 1: All I saw was my dog coming over the fence. Sat,
Speaker 1: what are you putting? We got some wonder or something crawling.
Speaker 3: Around out here?
Speaker 1: Did you see what it was?
Speaker 3: Or was it was?
Speaker 2: Standing enough? I'm out here looking through the window now
Speaker 2: and I don't see anything. I don't want to go outside, Jesus.
Speaker 1: Quice you better.
Speaker 2: Hello, hit the boddy out here?
Speaker 1: What's quo on out? I thought of a bit about
Speaker 1: text forty nine? I don't know easy announ there. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I'm walking right yuh, All.
Speaker 2: Our folks on walk of our guest to the show.
Speaker 2: It is Angie from Arkansas. Welcome to the show.
Speaker 1: Angie, Thank you, Hi.
Speaker 2: Let's get right into it. Let's talk about this bigfoot thing.
Speaker 2: What gag you interested in the subject to begin with?
Speaker 1: I got interested in the subject mostly from experiences I
Speaker 1: had I'm a child of the seventies, and it seemed
Speaker 1: that Bigfoot was around quite a bit in the seventies
Speaker 1: on TV shows, and that's where I first learned of
Speaker 1: it and the word Bigfoot. But none of that came
Speaker 1: upto play till much later on in my life. But
Speaker 1: I've always been aware of it.
Speaker 2: I know you're here to talk about a ton of
Speaker 2: experiences that you've had with these things over the years.
Speaker 2: Why don't you take us back to where you were,
Speaker 2: what you were doing, and tell us what happened to you.
Speaker 1: Okay, So my first encounter in the mid nineteen eighties.
Speaker 1: I was a teenager at the time here in Arkansas.
Speaker 1: Where we lived was in a little place called Motinee.
Speaker 1: It's like a suburb of the town I live in.
Speaker 1: Just by the lake. There was a giant hill that's
Speaker 1: behind our house. We lived in a mobile home at
Speaker 1: the time. It was a mobile home park, but it
Speaker 1: wasn't a very big mobile home park. It was probably about,
Speaker 1: I don't know, fifteen of them in a row, and
Speaker 1: behind all of us was a big old mountain. Never
Speaker 1: went up. The mountain always got weird vibes from the mountain.
Speaker 1: Don't know why. As a child, but nobody ever climbed
Speaker 1: that mountain, even the other people in the trailer park.
Speaker 1: You never saw anybody on the mountain, and there was
Speaker 1: kids everywhere, so it's weird. It was not developed. It
Speaker 1: was this total raw land. As teenagers, you're always looking
Speaker 1: for other teenagers. We had a hangout spot at the lake.
Speaker 1: We always called it the Point. The reason why we
Speaker 1: would hang out at the point is to get away
Speaker 1: from a family, But it was a perfect little place
Speaker 1: because it was roughly a five minute walk from our
Speaker 1: trailer to the lake. It was just a stretch of
Speaker 1: land that would vary in size depending that the lake
Speaker 1: was high or low with the time. One day we
Speaker 1: were down at the point, me and two other people.
Speaker 1: We were just hanging out. I don't know if we
Speaker 1: were swimming, how long we had been there. Too much
Speaker 1: time has gone by. I don't remember some of those details,
Speaker 1: but I just know that we were sitting there at
Speaker 1: the point. Now, at the point, like I said, it
Speaker 1: was the lake and there was a big grouping of
Speaker 1: woods between the lake and the highway that kind of
Speaker 1: buffered the point from the highway. Then past the highway
Speaker 1: was just another hill that was developed but not very much.
Speaker 1: It was still pretty raw land. So we're sitting there
Speaker 1: at the point behind where that little section of woods
Speaker 1: that buffered us from the road. We were sitting there
Speaker 1: just chilling. All of a sudden, rocks started flying at us.
Speaker 1: We could not see the road because of that stretch
Speaker 1: of section of woods that was in between us. We
Speaker 1: sort yelling up there, hey, knock it off, you're going
Speaker 1: to hit us. Stop it. Rocks keep coming. They weren't
Speaker 1: big rocks, they were probably pebble size, but just enough
Speaker 1: to know that something is being thrown at you. We
Speaker 1: just kept saying stop it, knock it off, you're going
Speaker 1: to hit us, and it just weren't stop. Now. It
Speaker 1: wasn't like a barrage of rocks. We weren't going to
Speaker 1: war zone or anything, but they would come about every
Speaker 1: minute or so. Enough time went by and we just
Speaker 1: finally ended up leaving within the following days. We were
Speaker 1: telling the other people who would hang out with us,
Speaker 1: who weren't there with us that day, Hey, why were
Speaker 1: you throwing rocks at us? That's not cool. They were like,
Speaker 1: we weren't throwing no rocks at you, guys. We didn't
Speaker 1: even know you guys were there. They were like, no, seriously,
Speaker 1: we weren't throwing rocks at you. Guys. They swore up
Speaker 1: and down they were not the ones throwing rocks. So
Speaker 1: that in itself seems innocent enough. But we never found
Speaker 1: out what was throwing rocks at us, and it never
Speaker 1: happened again. It was just that one time. So just
Speaker 1: to give a little bit more of a lay of
Speaker 1: the land, if we're at the point, if you look
Speaker 1: behind us, it's all wood and there's more mountains behind us. Now,
Speaker 1: some of the woods were developed, there were housing, but
Speaker 1: it was still very little. But diagonal to us was
Speaker 1: the mountain that was behind our trailer homework, which was undeveloped.
Speaker 1: There were still patches of big wilderness, but the spot
Speaker 1: that we were at was in between those, which will
Speaker 1: make sense later on. So that's it on my first experience.
Speaker 1: The next experience I had was we would always while
Speaker 1: we were sitting in our trailer house, we would always
Speaker 1: be hearing footsteps outside. Now, I don't know if that
Speaker 1: sounds weird or not. It sounds weird to me because
Speaker 1: I know, if I'm sitting in my house right now,
Speaker 1: if somebody's out in my yard, walking around. I'm not
Speaker 1: going to hear them. I'm not going to hear their footsteps.
Speaker 1: I'll only know if they're there if I look out
Speaker 1: the window, or if they make some big sound or
Speaker 1: doorbell or whatever. But just somebody walking by your house
Speaker 1: in your grass, you're not going to hear that. But
Speaker 1: I would hear that frequently at that trailer house, and
Speaker 1: it was only when I was in the back of
Speaker 1: the trailer. So most trailers are just gigantic rectangles. And
Speaker 1: in the particular trailer we had, there was a bedroom
Speaker 1: in the far right of the trailer and the other
Speaker 1: bedroom was at the far left, so the butt ends
Speaker 1: of the rectangle were the bedrooms. So the bedroom at
Speaker 1: the butt end next to the mountain was originally the
Speaker 1: kids room. We'd be in there playing, that was our bedroom,
Speaker 1: and I would hear heavy footsteps. Sometimes I would look
Speaker 1: out the windows. Sometimes I wouldn't, but as a young teenager,
Speaker 1: never saw anything, and I would ask my mom, Hey,
Speaker 1: where are those footsteps out there? And I never see anybody.
Speaker 1: She would always just ride it off. I don't know.
Speaker 1: I'm sure there's somebody out there walking around, I'm like,
Speaker 1: but nobody ever is out there walking around, So we
Speaker 1: ended up calling him the Man of the Mountain. Even
Speaker 1: though it was like like a ghost. We would hear footsteps,
Speaker 1: but we would never see anything. As a child and
Speaker 1: a teenager, that would always bother me because I'm like,
Speaker 1: could I be hearing somebody's footsteps That just did not
Speaker 1: make sense? And they were heavy, but you could tell,
Speaker 1: even me at that age that there was weight behind
Speaker 1: those footsteps. But never saw anything, but it was just
Speaker 1: always there. That was the second thing of what's going on?
Speaker 1: Things are just weird back there. Like I said, we
Speaker 1: never wanted to walk back there. We had a storage
Speaker 1: shed back there, and we never wanted to go back there.
Speaker 1: We were all over that area, but for some reason,
Speaker 1: we would never want to go to that particular mountain
Speaker 1: behind the house. So this was an unnerving one. I
Speaker 1: think maybe my mom knew more of what was going
Speaker 1: on than what she was leading us to believe. One day,
Speaker 1: our bedrooms get switched. Now suddenly the kid's bedroom is
Speaker 1: in the front of the trailer. Now the adult bedroom
Speaker 1: is in the back of the trailer, next to the mountain.
Speaker 1: I always found that strange too, because that was the
Speaker 1: smallest of the bedrooms. Usually adults take the big one
Speaker 1: and the kids you don't have to smash into the
Speaker 1: small rooms. But it was the opposite. They gave us
Speaker 1: the big one, and I say us. It was mostly me.
Speaker 1: I lived their full time. Were a split family, so
Speaker 1: I had step brothers and stepsisters and they would come
Speaker 1: every other weekend, so I was there full time. So
Speaker 1: I had that big bedroom with the master king sized
Speaker 1: water bed all to myself, and my parents were in
Speaker 1: the small bedroom, like in some queen size bed. It
Speaker 1: just made no sense, but that's what they did. It
Speaker 1: was a summer night. We were low income, so my
Speaker 1: parents liked to keep the ac off as much as possible.
Speaker 1: We would have the windows open in the summertime. This
Speaker 1: particular evening, our bedroom window was open. There was no
Speaker 1: coverings on the window, it was just a window. I
Speaker 1: guess we couldn't afford drapes, were blinds. I don't know.
Speaker 1: My stepsister and I were sharing a bed and we
Speaker 1: were asleep. I do not recall any light in the room. Sometimes,
Speaker 1: as teenagers, we had fall asleep with the TV on.
Speaker 1: I don't remember that. And this is since it was
Speaker 1: about nineteen eighty eight. I was roughly sixteen years old.
Speaker 1: Somewhere in that time, and for some reason, I don't
Speaker 1: know why, I stat up in bed out of a
Speaker 1: deep sleep. I sat up and I turned. Now right
Speaker 1: to my left is a window. Or bed was so
Speaker 1: big that it took up most of the room, so
Speaker 1: it was literally butt up against the wall that was
Speaker 1: butt up against the window. I look and what I
Speaker 1: saw was an outline of a head. It was just
Speaker 1: a giant head and it was doing this looking in
Speaker 1: the window. Its head was tilted, it was looking in
Speaker 1: the window, and it had big red eyes that, for
Speaker 1: lack of a better word, seemed to be glowing. They
Speaker 1: really stood out. I don't know what the light situation was,
Speaker 1: why he was only silhouetted. I don't remember seeing a moon.
Speaker 1: There could have been a moon, I don't know. I
Speaker 1: don't remember. It's been too long. All I remember seeing
Speaker 1: is just a giant head at the top of the
Speaker 1: window with red eyes, just looking in and I just
Speaker 1: sat there frozen, and in a blink of an eye,
Speaker 1: it was gone. I believe what I just saw. I
Speaker 1: was scared in a lot of different ways. I didn't
Speaker 1: know what that thing was, and what has red eyes?
Speaker 1: What is at the top of the window. There was
Speaker 1: just so many variables. I was just frozen. The next
Speaker 1: thing I know, it's morning. I guess I fell back
Speaker 1: to sleep. I don't remember the in between time. I
Speaker 1: just remember the next morning I was telling my mom
Speaker 1: and my stepsister slept next to me and never woke up.
Speaker 1: I didn't wake her up. I was too scared. I
Speaker 1: was frozen. She never woke up. So the next morning
Speaker 1: I was telling my mom and her I was like,
Speaker 1: last night, something was looking at us through the window
Speaker 1: and I saw it, and they're like, what are you
Speaker 1: talking about. I said, it was just a giant head
Speaker 1: with red eyes. Most people are gonna think you're bat crazy,
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying. And they're like, you were dreaming, Angie.
Speaker 1: It's like you were a sleep you're dreaming. I'm like, no,
Speaker 1: I saw this head in the window with red eyes.
Speaker 1: They laughed me off, thinking I was crazy. I'm dreaming,
Speaker 1: and I was like dead serious. I'm like, no, I
Speaker 1: saw it, and they're like, okay, whatever. Next thing, you know,
Speaker 1: blinds and curtains are getting put up on that window.
Speaker 1: I never saw it again. It was just that one time.
Speaker 1: It was just a giant head with red glowing eyes.
Speaker 1: That was my visual fighting of a sasquatch. I don't
Speaker 1: know if most people are familiar with how mobile homes
Speaker 1: are set up, but they're not on the ground. They
Speaker 1: are held up by cinder blocks, so they're usually pretty
Speaker 1: high off the ground to start with. Then usually you
Speaker 1: have to have steps to get into your mobile home,
Speaker 1: and that's how ours was as well. There was like
Speaker 1: three or four steps that landed onto a porch before
Speaker 1: he could even enter the mobile home. So I'm guestimating
Speaker 1: that window was at least at the top of the
Speaker 1: window was around nine feet off the ground after all
Speaker 1: was said and done, And it was at the top
Speaker 1: of the window, and I don't know if it was
Speaker 1: bending over to look in. All I know is it
Speaker 1: his head was tilted and it was looking in. I'm
Speaker 1: not sure, but that window, like if the head was
Speaker 1: at the top and that was roughly around nine feet.
Speaker 2: Was that all the experiences you had there in that house.
Speaker 1: As far as sasquatch goes, Yeah, the stuff that would
Speaker 1: equate the sasquatch.
Speaker 2: So after that you had no more experiences there. When
Speaker 2: was the next experience you believe was with a sasquatch?
Speaker 1: If we're going chronological, then the next one would be
Speaker 1: at Minnesota. I took some notes that way I could
Speaker 1: get my timeline right, so I hope you don't mind
Speaker 1: me looking at my notes. But it was August of
Speaker 1: twenty twenty. Quite a bit of time had gone by.
Speaker 1: I'm from Arkansas. We lived not in the woods, but
Speaker 1: we're always in the woods. Every weekend we're at hiking.
Speaker 1: So there was a long spance of time where nothing happened.
Speaker 1: So fast forward to August of twenty twenty. My husband
Speaker 1: and I go to Minnesota or anniversary. We were staying
Speaker 1: over in Lutson Hotel, which is just south of Grand Beret, Minnesota,
Speaker 1: which is up in the North Shore, so you're pretty
Speaker 1: high up in Minnesota. You're roughly hour and a half
Speaker 1: guesstimate from the Canadian border, so you're pretty high up there.
Speaker 1: So we were up in Grand Moray and we decided
Speaker 1: to go looking for wildlife. We were out driving around
Speaker 1: looking for wildlie. We saw bear. That was exciting. We
Speaker 1: were seeing lots of little animals, boxes, this and that
Speaker 1: exciting stuff. We were out doing hikes. We did quite
Speaker 1: a few hikes. We were on this road called Gunflint
Speaker 1: Trail Road. Now, it is the road that leads you
Speaker 1: from Grand Moray, Minnesota, up into the Boundary waters near
Speaker 1: the border of Canada. Very remote area. We're driving down Gunflint.
Speaker 1: I'm on my phone. We're really wanting to try to
Speaker 1: see a moose. That was like our goal was, We're
Speaker 1: going to find a moose up here. So I was
Speaker 1: googling trying to find where to go. And there was
Speaker 1: a place that you could go see moose. It was
Speaker 1: called Moose Lake Observation Area or something like that. So
Speaker 1: right got to go there. So we get there. It
Speaker 1: was getting towards dusk, but it wasn't dusk yet. It
Speaker 1: was late in the afternoon, getting towards dust. We get
Speaker 1: into the parking lot, which is just a gravel parking lot,
Speaker 1: and we're going to make our way to this lake
Speaker 1: to sneak up on some moose. There's this a flight
Speaker 1: incline to get to the trail. Now, I had just
Speaker 1: been out of knee surgery roughly four or five months.
Speaker 1: I had a knee brace on. I'm not supposed to
Speaker 1: be running, We're supposed to be just taking things easy.
Speaker 1: So we walk up this little incline and I was like,
Speaker 1: I don't know if I'm gonna be able to do
Speaker 1: this trail. This is really really the best for my knee.
Speaker 1: We had some hikers coming in the other direction and
Speaker 1: they had said, oh, it flattens out, you'll be fine.
Speaker 1: So I'm like, all right, we'll continue on. So we
Speaker 1: get up to the level area and we start walking.
Speaker 1: This is my husband and I. There's nobody else. We're
Speaker 1: the only ones. So if people that we passed were leaving,
Speaker 1: so now we are alone. It is deep for us.
Speaker 1: I can't even tell you where the next structure would
Speaker 1: be out there, like a house. So we're got right here,
Speaker 1: out in the middle of nowhere, and we're walking. Everything
Speaker 1: is fine, you know, we're laughing, we're enjoying the beauty.
Speaker 1: It's gorgeous out there. I think the trail, if memory
Speaker 1: serves me, was about a mile probably a mile and
Speaker 1: a half max. To get back to this where this
Speaker 1: lake is, and it is remote. They did build like
Speaker 1: a little platform so you could stand there and not
Speaker 1: stand in the mug, but it was pretty sad and
Speaker 1: where they had the platform, the trees were all in
Speaker 1: the way. You couldn't see the lake anyways. So we
Speaker 1: weren't even standing on the platform. We were like trying
Speaker 1: to find a hole in the trees where we could
Speaker 1: get a view of the lake, hoping that the moose
Speaker 1: would come strolling by. Everything was normal. We were laughing
Speaker 1: and we were having fun. We were enjoying ourselves. We're
Speaker 1: looking at the lake. We're being quiet because we know
Speaker 1: if we're talking too much, we're going to scare the
Speaker 1: moose away, so we end up getting quiet but anticipation
Speaker 1: of the moose. So we're looking through the brush trying
Speaker 1: to see the lake, and all of a sudden, the
Speaker 1: biggest wave of fear washed over me, just out of
Speaker 1: the blue. No, you're scaring yourself. I don't know what
Speaker 1: you've just been thinking, but you're sitting there. You're scaring yourself.
Speaker 1: Don't trying to rationalize this weird feeling I'm having. It
Speaker 1: seems like all the air got sucked out of that area.
Speaker 1: All of a sudden, the forest went silent. I'm like,
Speaker 1: that's weird, And like I said, have been all the
Speaker 1: air this gets sucked out of the area. You can't breathe,
Speaker 1: This overwhelming dread is over you. I'm like, something is
Speaker 1: seriously not right. I look at my husband. I said,
Speaker 1: do you feel that? He goes, something's not right? I said,
Speaker 1: did you notice how the forest has gone silent? He
Speaker 1: goes yeah. I said, have you ever been in a
Speaker 1: forest worst gone silent? I said to me either, And
Speaker 1: I'm like, do you feel the heaviness? Do you feel scared?
Speaker 1: I do? He goes, there's a weirdness. All of a sudden,
Speaker 1: I said, I think we should go. I said, something
Speaker 1: is seriously not right here. He goes, no, We're fine.
Speaker 1: I'm like, no, we gotta go. We got to go.
Speaker 1: Something's not right, and something inside me was just like,
Speaker 1: get out of dodge. Something is not right. I had
Speaker 1: never felt that feeling ever before. That was the first
Speaker 1: time where I had unexplainable I guess do you call
Speaker 1: it fight or flight? I just wanted to get out
Speaker 1: of there as fast as possible. And there was no
Speaker 1: rational reason why we saw nothing, we heard nothing, we
Speaker 1: smelled nothing, but this impending doom was over us. So
Speaker 1: I was like, we gotta go, we gotta go. I'm
Speaker 1: grabbing my husband and I'm pulling him and at this
Speaker 1: point he knows things are weird, but I'm like, no,
Speaker 1: we're in danger. And I don't know why, but we
Speaker 1: got to go. So I'm pulling at him and we're
Speaker 1: walking and I'm like, no, we gotta walk faster, and
Speaker 1: he's Angie, what is wrong with you? I'm like, we
Speaker 1: got to get out of here. Even though he felt
Speaker 1: the weirdness and the strangeness and how things weren't right,
Speaker 1: I was, for some reason picking up on it more.
Speaker 1: I was just like, honey, let's go. He was behind me. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I'm just not a surgery with a knee brace on.
Speaker 1: But I can barely walk and he is behind me.
Speaker 1: I'm like, come on, we gotta go. My bones could
Speaker 1: jump out of my skin and ran ahead of me.
Speaker 1: It would have. I had that just that much fear.
Speaker 1: We're getting to the car. We're getting to the car,
Speaker 1: but still that fear is not going away. It stayed
Speaker 1: with us the whole mile and a half back to
Speaker 1: the car, and it only stopped once we started approaching
Speaker 1: the car and got to that incline. And as we
Speaker 1: were getting close to the incline, I'm like, he got
Speaker 1: the keys, He got the keys out, and ready, right
Speaker 1: are your keys in your hand. We got to get
Speaker 1: in the car. We got to go. He's just yeah,
Speaker 1: I got him chill out. I'm like, no, we got
Speaker 1: to go. I feel something chased us out of that woods.
Speaker 1: Even though it didn't chase us out of the woods,
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying. It was just one of
Speaker 1: those highly freaky, what is going on moments that I
Speaker 1: had never experienced before in my life and had nothing
Speaker 1: to compare it to. Now later on down the line,
Speaker 1: when I started learning more stuff, these instances would come
Speaker 1: back to mind and it would explain a lot of things.
Speaker 1: But we got chased out of the woods by something
Speaker 1: that we couldn't see. So the next experience happened up
Speaker 1: in Southwest Harbor, Maine. I had a year round allergies.
Speaker 1: I know this is going to sound weird, but this
Speaker 1: will explain why I was in Maine. So I have
Speaker 1: to leave where I live here in Arkansas twice a
Speaker 1: year because the allergies get so bad that none of
Speaker 1: the medications work. So I have to leave for about
Speaker 1: a month and a half so I can breathe, and
Speaker 1: I'd be dying in bed. So anyways, that was my
Speaker 1: first time leaving, was going to Maine. Some people said
Speaker 1: why Maine. I went to Northern Maine and at that time,
Speaker 1: things are still frozen over, but like there's gonna be
Speaker 1: no pollen up there. So that's how I ended up
Speaker 1: getting to Southwest Harbor, Maine. That was in October of
Speaker 1: twenty twenty three. It's about thirty minutes from Bar Harbor.
Speaker 1: So I don't know if you're familiar with northern Maine,
Speaker 1: but it's north and to the east of Bangor and
Speaker 1: it's on the coast. So I rented a house through
Speaker 1: Airbnb or Berbo, one of those rental places. I was
Speaker 1: going to be there for a month, so my husband
Speaker 1: and I go up there. He decided to come with
Speaker 1: me to help get me set up. This is the
Speaker 1: first time ever doing this, so it was weird for
Speaker 1: everybody that mom was heading to another state for a month.
Speaker 2: Stay tuned for more sasquatch out to see went right
Speaker 2: back after these messages.
Speaker 1: So my husband came with me to get me set up,
Speaker 1: to make sure I was good to go. So we
Speaker 1: get up there and the first several days were great.
Speaker 1: He was there with me, we were outsight seeing, we're
Speaker 1: getting settled in, and we're getting all the groceries. Everything
Speaker 1: was great. Not a care in the world. The house
Speaker 1: that I had rented was in a harbor, so I
Speaker 1: got to overlook the harbor with the little boats and stuff.
Speaker 1: Very quintessential New England, which is fantastic. I love it.
Speaker 1: But behind the house was a stretch of pine trees,
Speaker 1: like a little wooded area. And being that time of year,
Speaker 1: most locals are still down south getting away from the winters.
Speaker 1: So I was the only house in that little nook
Speaker 1: that had anybody there. All the rest of them were
Speaker 1: still vacant. So I was the one house on this
Speaker 1: peninsula that had lights and human activity. The first couple
Speaker 1: of days, all was good. And now it's time for
Speaker 1: him to lead to go back to Arkansas. So now
Speaker 1: I'm there alone, and I know nobody. I am a
Speaker 1: stranger and a strange land. I've never been to Maine.
Speaker 1: Let me also give you a little background. So when
Speaker 1: you pulled into the house, it was technically the backyard.
Speaker 1: There was a storage shed that I had zero access to.
Speaker 1: I wasn't allowed to use it. Like I said, the
Speaker 1: pine trees were all behind it. So he had their garage,
Speaker 1: He had all the pine trees. He had just a
Speaker 1: makeshift full in and then a pathway that led to
Speaker 1: the house. He had to do a couple steps to
Speaker 1: get into the house. Well, even though it was the
Speaker 1: back of the house, it was like the front door.
Speaker 1: That was the door that you used to enter the property.
Speaker 1: So I get back and taking my husband to the airport,
Speaker 1: I get in the house. Everything is good, I believe
Speaker 1: it was. The next night is when strangeness started. I'm
Speaker 1: in the house. Ever since the situation in Arkansas, me
Speaker 1: being looked at through the window with sasquatch, I now
Speaker 1: have a habit of closing all my windows at night.
Speaker 1: Even to this day, I'm fifty one and I still
Speaker 1: close all the blinds in the house at night. I
Speaker 1: think it's related back to that. I go through the house,
Speaker 1: I shut all the blinds. Now, there's one window in
Speaker 1: this house that has no way to cover it. It
Speaker 1: is a giant circle window. It is right next to
Speaker 1: the door that you go in and out of the house.
Speaker 1: So the door, the circle window, and the stairs right
Speaker 1: next to it go upstairs to where the bedrooms are.
Speaker 1: That's the one window in the house that you could
Speaker 1: not cover. Face the backyard where the trees and everything was.
Speaker 1: So that night I'm sitting there watching TV, not a
Speaker 1: care in the world, and all of a sudden, I
Speaker 1: start feeling scared. I'm sitting here, the house is locked,
Speaker 1: all the windows are covered, nobody knows I'm in here.
Speaker 1: Why am I scared? This is ridiculous, but I had
Speaker 1: an overwhelming sense of fear while over me. It was
Speaker 1: time to go to bed. I didn't want to pass
Speaker 1: that window. And I'm thinking, that is the most irrational thing.
Speaker 1: And you why I'm scared of passing that window. You
Speaker 1: haven't been scared in the whole four or five days
Speaker 1: you've been here. Why now, all of a sudden, are
Speaker 1: you scared to pass this window? And why are you
Speaker 1: feeling the way you do? So even though I felt
Speaker 1: terrified in the house, I had to go to bed,
Speaker 1: so I passed the window. Next night, same thing, sitting
Speaker 1: in the house. And during the day everything is fine.
Speaker 1: But at night time I get that fear, that scared
Speaker 1: feeling sitting on the couch again. It just washes over me.
Speaker 1: And the next minute, I'm like cowering on the couch
Speaker 1: and I don't understand what's going on because all through
Speaker 1: the day everything is fine, And I'm like, why am
Speaker 1: I scared? It's time to go to bed, and I'm like,
Speaker 1: I want to pass that window and I'll think it
Speaker 1: AERNGI seriously, there's nothing back there. You're fine, it's passed
Speaker 1: the window. And this goes on night after night, and
Speaker 1: I'm not understanding what is going on. Fast forward one day,
Speaker 1: I'm going to leave the house and I opened the door.
Speaker 1: Noticed debris all over this little back patio. Where did
Speaker 1: this debris come from? It wasn't here yesterday, And I'm thinking,
Speaker 1: what went on here last night? Did the raccoons have
Speaker 1: a party? Was that what I was sensing. I'm like,
Speaker 1: this makes no sense. And it's like little pieces of wood,
Speaker 1: like little twigs like in that mossy stuff that grows.
Speaker 1: It was twiggs and lichen all over the porch and
Speaker 1: I was like, what in the world. And I look
Speaker 1: down and there was a rock about the size of
Speaker 1: acutie tangerine place at the door. I don't know technical terms,
Speaker 1: but that piece of metal that's on your threshold, like
Speaker 1: when you walk through the doorframe, that little metal piece
Speaker 1: and it sticks out to interior a little bit. But
Speaker 1: it was placed literally on that metal piece in front
Speaker 1: of the door. It was touching the door. I mean,
Speaker 1: I could not miss. It was a rock. I was like,
Speaker 1: how did the rock get put here? I'm like, okay,
Speaker 1: I can rise the debris from squirrels, raccoon, poss some
Speaker 1: critter crawling up on the porch at night, just I
Speaker 1: don't know, making a mess. But I can't equate a
Speaker 1: rock being placed right at my door purposely put. It
Speaker 1: wasn't like capazard. It was noticed me type of thing,
Speaker 1: And I was like, that is strange. What could have
Speaker 1: done this? A human could have done it? But why
Speaker 1: would a human but a small rock at my door?
Speaker 1: Why wouldn't they just knock on my door? Why wouldn't
Speaker 1: they leave a note? Why would they leave debrity and
Speaker 1: a rock? Critical thinking, it didn't make sense that it
Speaker 1: would be a human doing it. Also, critical thinking wise,
Speaker 1: I could not think of any animal really besides a
Speaker 1: raccoon because it had its hands and thumbs and such,
Speaker 1: that would do that. But then I'm like, why would
Speaker 1: a raccoon do that? There was no food here, there's nothing,
Speaker 1: So to me, that wasn't even a rational explanation. So
Speaker 1: I told my husband about it, and if oh, you're
Speaker 1: just being alone, you're just scared, I'm like I had
Speaker 1: thought that too. I said, there was debris all over
Speaker 1: the porch this morning, and a rock was placed at
Speaker 1: my door. He said, what do you mean a rock
Speaker 1: was placed at your door? I said, a rock was
Speaker 1: placed at my door. I said it was like something
Speaker 1: was rustling around, or maybe a rock got kicked and
Speaker 1: flew up and landed by the door. I said, it
Speaker 1: wasn't that type of scenario. I said. It was in
Speaker 1: the middle at the door, like it was wanting to
Speaker 1: be found. I said, I don't understand this, and he goes,
Speaker 1: I don't understand it either, but I'm sure it's nothing.
Speaker 1: And I'm just like, I'm not sure it's nothing. It's
Speaker 1: got to be something. But since I can't explain it, okay,
Speaker 1: we'll just file that as weirdness. We'll just keep going on.
Speaker 1: That kind of thing kept happening night after night. Every
Speaker 1: night I would get scared for no rational reason. It
Speaker 1: would not go away. Now, when I say night, I
Speaker 1: don't want people to think this was happening. But ten
Speaker 1: eleven midnight, it was like eight nine o'clock in the evening.
Speaker 1: It was early evening. Like I said, no explanation for it.
Speaker 1: It was starting to get very alarming. It was getting
Speaker 1: to the point where I was dreading sundown, cause it's like,
Speaker 1: is that weird, strange fear feeling going to come back again?
Speaker 1: Why is it coming back? I could not get a
Speaker 1: grasp on it. All I know was I was petrified
Speaker 1: in that house, even more petrified when I had to
Speaker 1: go to bed at night to pass that window. I
Speaker 1: don't know how much time elapsed, but one night I
Speaker 1: was sitting on the couch watching TV. Evening rolls around
Speaker 1: and I start getting the weird feeling again. Now, as
Speaker 1: I'm sitting on the couch watching TV, the kitchen is
Speaker 1: off to my right, and I hear the loudest bang
Speaker 1: in the kitchen. But the weirdest thing was you could
Speaker 1: tell directionally. It was from the top of the kitchen wall.
Speaker 1: It wasn't like down where the door was. It wasn't
Speaker 1: just random on the side of the house. It was
Speaker 1: from a And I remember turning and I was looking up,
Speaker 1: going something just hit the house. Something's out there. Now,
Speaker 1: mind you, I'm sitting in there alone, petrified, and I
Speaker 1: am unarmed. I have no way to protect myself. I'm
Speaker 1: a stranger in a strange land. I'm in an original property.
Speaker 1: I flew up there. I don't have any firearms. Is
Speaker 1: that a human trying to break? In? My mind is
Speaker 1: going a mile a minute. I was already petrified because
Speaker 1: of that weird feeling, but now I am terrified because
Speaker 1: something is clearly out there. I don't know what it is.
Speaker 1: Something not only hit the house, but hit the house
Speaker 1: at the top of the wall. I'm thinking, there's nobody
Speaker 1: out there with the ladder. Seriously, nobody's out there with
Speaker 1: the ladder. Could not jump and fit that high. I'm thinking,
Speaker 1: seriously wrong. Okay, So I'm getting ahead of myself because
Speaker 1: it was just so terrifying. So I'm sitting on the couch.
Speaker 1: The only thing I can do is just sit there. Now,
Speaker 1: I know a lot of people were saying, why did
Speaker 1: you call the police? At that moment, it never crossed
Speaker 1: my mind. I was too scared. I don't know why
Speaker 1: it didn't cross my mind. Now, when I was talking
Speaker 1: to my husband because I called him, I made my
Speaker 1: way upstairs. I ran past the window as much as
Speaker 1: I can run with my knee. I was like, something
Speaker 1: just hit the house. I'm in here petrified, and you
Speaker 1: don't want to tell your spouse thousands of miles away
Speaker 1: that you're up from there alone and you're a sitting
Speaker 1: duck that something's banging on your house, something's leaving things
Speaker 1: at your front door. But I'm like, honey, I'm petrified,
Speaker 1: and he says, I'm sure they're rational explanations for all
Speaker 1: of this. I think he brought up calling the police.
Speaker 1: I'm like, they're not going to believe me. They're gonna
Speaker 1: laugh at me. And what am I gonna tell him?
Speaker 1: Something left the rock and something hit my house, but
Speaker 1: there's no nothing else. And I'm like, they're gonna laugh
Speaker 1: at me. They've got some Arkansas woman that's up here
Speaker 1: out of her mind. And I'm like, no, I'm not
Speaker 1: doing that, I said, but something's not right. So you
Speaker 1: know that whole thing. Now, I got the rock, and
Speaker 1: I got now my house got slapped, got the weird
Speaker 1: feelings happening every night. Now, I just wish it would
Speaker 1: stay daytime, all day, because nothing weird fins during the day.
Speaker 1: It's only at night night now, said I was only
Speaker 1: going to be there for a month. So by this time,
Speaker 1: weird things like had been going on and then it stopped.
Speaker 1: And the weird thing is my husband, my daughter and
Speaker 1: at that time her boyfriend came to visit me, And
Speaker 1: while they came to visit me, everything stopped. There was
Speaker 1: no weird feelings, there was no rocks being left at
Speaker 1: my door, and there was no houses being slapped. It
Speaker 1: all stopped. I was just like, crap, I just want
Speaker 1: my family to be afraid, but I want them to
Speaker 1: feel what I was feeling so they could understand what
Speaker 1: I was telling them. I was telling them I'm petrified
Speaker 1: up here, there's weird stuff going on. Being from Arkansas,
Speaker 1: they could not grasp truly what was going on. All
Speaker 1: they knew was was Mom was scared, and they just
Speaker 1: kept talking it off to you know, it's just you know,
Speaker 1: mom's alone and she's just making up things in her mind.
Speaker 1: But that's not what it was. I'm not making up
Speaker 1: rocks being left at my doorstep, I'm not making up
Speaker 1: my house being I'm not making up just being petrified
Speaker 1: night after night out of the blue. So I was
Speaker 1: really hoping that something would happen while they were there
Speaker 1: so they could be like, yeah, we experienced that too,
Speaker 1: but it didn't. So I was ticked off about that.
Speaker 1: I said, I didn't want them to be scared, but
Speaker 1: I wanted them to self so they would say, yeah,
Speaker 1: Lum's right, something weird is going on. So they were
Speaker 1: there for about four or five days. Even go home. Night,
Speaker 1: I'm sitting on the couch and here comes that heeling again,
Speaker 1: and I'm like, banjie, this hadn't happened the whole time.
Speaker 1: Maybe they're right. Now I start trying to rationalize again.
Speaker 1: Maybe they're right, Maybe you were just scared here being
Speaker 1: by yourself. But then, how does that explain the rock
Speaker 1: and their debriill will of the porch, and how does
Speaker 1: that explain the house being slapped Because there were no
Speaker 1: trees that were in the yard. Okay, so there was
Speaker 1: no tree that could drop something onto the house. There
Speaker 1: was no branch I could hit the house. It was
Speaker 1: totally clear cut around the house. The only trees were
Speaker 1: back behind the garage, and that was probably thirty yards
Speaker 1: from the house. So nothing can touch the house. It
Speaker 1: is on its own. So I'm thinking, what explains the flap,
Speaker 1: what explains the rock? So that night, I'm sitting there
Speaker 1: and the petrified feeling comes back, and I'm sitting in
Speaker 1: the living room. Now the living room, there's a couch,
Speaker 1: there's a coffee table, there's a small little walkway because
Speaker 1: it's a narrow living room. It's long, but it's narrow.
Speaker 1: And then the TV and the wall, so the wall
Speaker 1: and the TV were as one. The TV was on
Speaker 1: the wall, so there was roughly and I say four feet,
Speaker 1: it could be five feet. I'm at the best guesser
Speaker 1: in this stepth and like to the wall. And then
Speaker 1: outside of the wall was outside. It was outside front porch.
Speaker 1: On the front porch there was that old rawd iron
Speaker 1: heavy black metal furniture if you're familiar with that furniture.
Speaker 1: Good quality, heavy metal iron outdoor furniture was there on
Speaker 1: the front porch so when on nice days you could
Speaker 1: go out there and sit. I'm sitting on the couch
Speaker 1: in the living room watching TV. Just outside, on the
Speaker 1: other side of the wall is the front porch with
Speaker 1: the metal furniture. I'm sitting there. Weird feeling comes over
Speaker 1: me again and I'm just like, here we go again.
Speaker 1: So I'm sitting there. All of a sudden, I heard
Speaker 1: the furniture move, and I'm petrified. Not only was I
Speaker 1: petrified already because that weird feeling, but now something is
Speaker 1: on the front porch and it moved. The furniture if
Speaker 1: you've ever had any interactions with that type of furniture.
Speaker 1: It doesn't move easy, like skips and jumps when you're
Speaker 1: pulling it, and it makes that weird metal against wood
Speaker 1: bouncing sound. That's what I heard. It got pulled, and
Speaker 1: I was like, something's out there with the furniture. It's
Speaker 1: literally on the other side of the door of me.
Speaker 1: The kitchen was close enough, but now this thing is
Speaker 1: literally on the other side of the wall from me. Toded.
Speaker 1: There are two glass sliding doors on each side of
Speaker 1: that wall, so where the TV is to the left
Speaker 1: or they're the sliding glass door and to the right
Speaker 1: they're the sliding glass door. Now obviously their locked. It's
Speaker 1: just a lot and I'm like, whatever's out there, is
Speaker 1: it going to come in because clearly the light's dre on.
Speaker 1: Now I'm thinking, this is what's been coming around, you know.
Speaker 1: This has got to be what's leaving the rock. This
Speaker 1: has got to be what slapped the house. This is
Speaker 1: what keeps coming around and giving me these weird feelings.
Speaker 1: Whatever this is, it's on the porch and I was petrified.
Speaker 1: I was not getting myself up off that couch look
Speaker 1: out that window for nothing. Obviously it knew I was
Speaker 1: in there, but I didn't want to see it, and
Speaker 1: for some strange, irrational I didn't want it to see me.
Speaker 1: Now I'm sure it had already seen me because it
Speaker 1: was coming around, but in my mind, I'm like, I
Speaker 1: don't want to see me. I don't want it to
Speaker 1: see me, and I didn't want to see it, so
Speaker 1: I never looked out the window. I was too petrified.
Speaker 1: I did not want to leave that couch. Is it
Speaker 1: going to come in? Is it going to come in?
Speaker 1: Because there was a lot of outside doors. There was
Speaker 1: the two that led into the living room, there was
Speaker 1: a door that led me through the kitchen, and then
Speaker 1: that said the door that came in and out of
Speaker 1: the normal house. So they've at least four ways into
Speaker 1: this house and plus countless windows. So I'm like, is
Speaker 1: it finally getting more confident that it's going to come in?
Speaker 1: Being started off slow, start off with the roup, and
Speaker 1: now it started off with the house flap, and now
Speaker 1: whatever is on the porch just out on the other
Speaker 1: side of the wall from me, moving furniture something, whatever
Speaker 1: it is, is getting more and more comfortable or confident.
Speaker 1: But luckily nothing did. There was no other sound, there
Speaker 1: was no other or anything, but the fear was still there.
Speaker 1: I still had that weird feeling once again. I'd get
Speaker 1: upstairs and I called my husband. I said, there's something
Speaker 1: on the porch that just moved the furniture. I don't
Speaker 1: know what to do. He was just like, I'm sure
Speaker 1: it's just an animal up there. I'm sure it's just
Speaker 1: the raccoon up there on the porch and a bump
Speaker 1: the furniture and it made it move. I'm like, John,
Speaker 1: I'm like, that furniture find me. I'm like, you have
Speaker 1: to pull that furture. I'm like, you think of raccoon
Speaker 1: bumping into it's going to make that thing move. Angie,
Speaker 1: you're just being irrational. They don't understand what's going on
Speaker 1: up here. Having that distance, he was easily to explain
Speaker 1: things away. Now. He wasn't thinking I was lying. He
Speaker 1: was just trying to think of the other side, which
Speaker 1: I appreciate, and I'm one hundred percent for that. I'm
Speaker 1: not an irrational person. I tried to do critical thinking
Speaker 1: in things, but in my critical thinking, I couldn't figure
Speaker 1: out what in the world was going on. So it
Speaker 1: was getting towards the end of me being there, and
Speaker 1: I could not wait to get home because practically every night,
Speaker 1: except for the nights that they were there, the weirdness
Speaker 1: would happen. I was quite getting tired of being petrified
Speaker 1: every night and not knowing what was going to happen,
Speaker 1: if it was eventually going to come in, if I
Speaker 1: am truly in danger. When I told some people about
Speaker 1: this story, They're like, why didn't you leave? I'm like,
Speaker 1: the house was paid for. Where was I going to go?
Speaker 1: I was stuck. There was nowhere else to go. I
Speaker 1: was like, you know what, your time is winding down.
Speaker 1: Just stick it out in gee, nothing serious has happened.
Speaker 1: You're scared, but just to stick it out. You're gonna
Speaker 1: be home soon. Even though I hated it, that was
Speaker 1: really the only thing I could think of doing. Really.
Speaker 1: The last night came around and I was sitting on
Speaker 1: the couch and all of a sudden, the fear came back.
Speaker 1: But it came back like a thousand times over. It
Speaker 1: was just like when I was out in the woods
Speaker 1: in Minnesota, just this deep, heavy dread. It was not
Speaker 1: like the other night. The other nights I was petrified,
Speaker 1: but this night, I don't like I can't explain it.
Speaker 1: It was just a hundred times worse. And I was
Speaker 1: sitting on the couch and for that night, I said,
Speaker 1: it was hard for me going past that window every night,
Speaker 1: but for that night, I knew in my heart something
Speaker 1: was out that window, whatever had been going on for
Speaker 1: some reason. In my soul, I knew something was out
Speaker 1: that window. And if I was to walk past that window,
Speaker 1: I was gonna see it, and it was going to
Speaker 1: see me. And I was petrified. I did not want that.
Speaker 1: I was sitting on the couch and it was like
Speaker 1: I was crying on the inside because I did not
Speaker 1: want to get up and want past that window. With
Speaker 1: every being in me, I did not want to pass
Speaker 1: that window. I wanted to like crawl on my belly
Speaker 1: stood up those stairs. I don't know why it was
Speaker 1: so strong that night, Like I said, the other nights
Speaker 1: it was strong, but it was like super strong. It
Speaker 1: was like on steroids that night. And I don't know
Speaker 1: what the difference was. So I'm sitting on the couch,
Speaker 1: going I gotta go to bed. I don't want to
Speaker 1: go to bed because I got to pass the window.
Speaker 1: There's a bedroom downstairs. There was one bedroom downstairs. But
Speaker 1: once again, in my mind, under these conditions, that wasn't
Speaker 1: an option, because I was like, if something does get
Speaker 1: into the house, it's got me. I have nowhere to
Speaker 1: go at least if I'm upstairs. It probably did come
Speaker 1: a little bit on the irrational. I was like, if
Speaker 1: something did get in, at least I would hear it
Speaker 1: getting in and I would have a chance to react.
Speaker 1: Whether it was going out window onto the roof, I
Speaker 1: don't know, but at least I would have some sort
Speaker 1: of distance between me and the it. That was my irrational,
Speaker 1: rational thoughts at the time. I gotta go upstairs, but
Speaker 1: every inch of my being did not want to pass
Speaker 1: the window. So I turned off all the lights in
Speaker 1: the house. Now, normally I would turn all the lights
Speaker 1: off in the house and just leave the stairway light on.
Speaker 1: That way I could see as I'm walking up the steps,
Speaker 1: so I when to bite it. But that night I'd like, oh, no,
Speaker 1: all lights going off and I will walk up those
Speaker 1: stairs in the dark. Whether I fall. But as I
Speaker 1: was getting off the couch and padding down the hallway
Speaker 1: to where the window was that had to turn to
Speaker 1: go up the stairs, it was like I was walking
Speaker 1: the Green Mile. It was like, I don't know what's
Speaker 1: going to happen when I get to that window. So
Speaker 1: I'm walking down the hallway and I'm looking at the window,
Speaker 1: and right before I get to it, I'm like, I can't.
Speaker 1: I put my hand up as fast as like now,
Speaker 1: mind you don't have a knee issue, and I can't
Speaker 1: even run anymore. I screwed up. I had this site
Speaker 1: block and once again, I know that sounds stupid, but
Speaker 1: it was this instinctual so it couldn't see me or
Speaker 1: to keep myself from seeing it.
Speaker 2: Stay tuned for more sasquatch out to seem right back
Speaker 2: after these messages.
Speaker 1: Out of curiosity, I don't know, but I just went
Speaker 1: like this and I boogied up the stairs. The next day,
Speaker 1: I was already set to leave and I was out
Speaker 1: of there, and that was the most petrifying thing that
Speaker 1: I could not put my finger on. I got home,
Speaker 1: and it took it a long time for me to
Speaker 1: get out of the mindset of oh, night Time's coming.
Speaker 1: I was still innately get scared knowing that night time
Speaker 1: was coming, because for the last month, every night practically
Speaker 1: I had that fear. So it became in a way
Speaker 1: like a PTSD type of thing. I would get scared
Speaker 1: when nightfall would roll and I would just have to
Speaker 1: sit and talk myself down off the ledge, saying, Angie,
Speaker 1: you're home, you're safe, You're safe. You can call him
Speaker 1: down now. And it took a while. It took a
Speaker 1: couple of weeks for me to, you know, decompress from
Speaker 1: all the freakiness that was going on up there. But
Speaker 1: that was my turning point. That was the time where
Speaker 1: I said, all right, I've got to figure out what
Speaker 1: in the world is going on. Now. In my head
Speaker 1: knew what was going on because during that long timeframe
Speaker 1: of things not happening, I watched TV like everybody else.
Speaker 1: I saw the show Finding Bigfoot. If I saw some
Speaker 1: of the other stuff, some of that stuff was like,
Speaker 1: I wonder, okay, they had a house slap, and the
Speaker 1: night of the house slap was really what kind of
Speaker 1: got me thinking what it could be. But I didn't
Speaker 1: want to believe it. I was like, no, that's not it.
Speaker 1: But then I'm like, put a be a human being?
Speaker 1: Is that going to be sneaking up to the house
Speaker 1: I rented with a ladder declimb. The ladder in the
Speaker 1: middle of the right to splap my house. That just
Speaker 1: does not make sense. So I was like, it can't be.
Speaker 1: That's the only logical thing, but it can't be. Then
Speaker 1: in episodes, I had remembered the gifting thing of them
Speaker 1: leaving things, and so I was just like, is that
Speaker 1: what was going on? I've got to find out if
Speaker 1: all these dots that I had, if they line into
Speaker 1: for real a Sasquatch. That's what I started doing my
Speaker 1: deep died into the whole Sasquatch world for the next
Speaker 1: two years. I did a deep had died into it
Speaker 1: because I needed answers after what I went through up
Speaker 1: in Maine in Minnesota. For that manner, I needed to
Speaker 1: know what was going on? Was I in danger? What
Speaker 1: are these things? Is it what I was thinking? It
Speaker 1: was the things I was experiencing. Are these it's behaviors?
Speaker 1: That's what got me into the whole Bigfoot realm.
Speaker 2: What was next as far as your journey with them?
Speaker 1: Yeah, so the Samurai Chatter was the next experience. Like
Speaker 1: I said, we did the whole deep die for the
Speaker 1: two years. I wanted to know everything I could about
Speaker 1: the subject. If you study something all day long for
Speaker 1: two years, I'm no expert. Please do not call me
Speaker 1: an expert. I am no expert, but I can recognize behaviors. Now,
Speaker 1: for lack of a better word, what everybody teaches about
Speaker 1: the tree knocks, the tree breaks, the branch breaks, the
Speaker 1: gifting stuff, the howls. I've started learning what we know
Speaker 1: to this date, I started learning. So fast forward once again.
Speaker 1: My husband and I go back to the same area,
Speaker 1: back to the north shore of Minnesota because wed to
Speaker 1: fleb it up there. It's just beautiful, never been I
Speaker 1: recommend you always gorgeous. So anyways, we rented another Airbnb
Speaker 1: burbo house. This house was literally on Lake Superior, so
Speaker 1: you had Lake Superior, a ginormous granite rock piece. I
Speaker 1: think the house is partly built on this granite rock.
Speaker 1: It's huge. So the house was built on this rock
Speaker 1: and all around it the owners extensive landscaping. You could
Speaker 1: barely see this little bitty cottage. This cottage I think
Speaker 1: was built in the nineteen hundreds. It's an old little
Speaker 1: woodsman's cottage from back in the day that they just redid.
Speaker 1: So it's small, it's just treams, there's no inflamation. It's
Speaker 1: just literally a trapper's cap and that they redid the
Speaker 1: landscaping towered over it. It was very remote. We're like perfect
Speaker 1: get away from people. So it's our anniversary. We went
Speaker 1: a nice little place. This one was in Schroeder, Minnesota,
Speaker 1: which is just south of Lutestam, which is just south
Speaker 1: of Grand Maray's. It's a little dotting of little towns
Speaker 1: before you get to Grand Maray. Schroeder was probably about,
Speaker 1: I don't know, thirty forty minutes outside of Grand Ray.
Speaker 1: This happened this past August of twenty twenty four. To
Speaker 1: get to the house, it is probably around one in
Speaker 1: the morning, completely pitch black out there. We're still wired
Speaker 1: from traveling. We had just driven up from Minneapolis. We
Speaker 1: did not do our travel plans. We should have flown
Speaker 1: into Dluth. We didn't. We flew into Minneapolis, so we
Speaker 1: had a four hour drive once we got to Minneapolis,
Speaker 1: so you can get to this house. So we got
Speaker 1: there very late. We're still jacked from our day of traveling.
Speaker 1: So I'm just gonna go ahead and I'm gonna unpack.
Speaker 1: So I'm unpacking. The husband's going around getting all the
Speaker 1: heat and stuff going in the house. Now we're starting
Speaker 1: to wind down a little bit and it's time for bed,
Speaker 1: so we're both laying in bed. Normally, I fall asleep
Speaker 1: watching TV because I have insomnia. That kind of drowns
Speaker 1: out the thoughts in my brain and I can fall
Speaker 1: asleep easier. My husband, on the other side, cannot fall
Speaker 1: asleep with any lights or any sound. So I'm just
Speaker 1: laying there, wide awake in bed because I can't sleep.
Speaker 1: My insomnia's going not I'm laying there and by this
Speaker 1: time we went to bed, probably around two in the morning.
Speaker 1: It took us about an hour to wind down. Once
Speaker 1: we got there, It's pitched black in the room. I'm
Speaker 1: just laying there. All of a sudden, in the silence,
Speaker 1: I hear like a tape for quarter from back in
Speaker 1: the day. For those of you who are familiar with
Speaker 1: cassette tapes, if you went when you were rewinding, it
Speaker 1: would make that weird, weird type of sound. I was
Speaker 1: laying there and that's what I heard, just out of
Speaker 1: the blue, and then boom, three booms, and that was it.
Speaker 1: And I'm laying there in bed saying no, oh no.
Speaker 1: I knew instantly. I didn't know the term yet. Samurai
Speaker 1: chatter all I knew was Sierra Sounds. When I heard that,
Speaker 1: I was like, that's the Sierra Sounds. I was like,
Speaker 1: bully Canoli. We've been here just a couple hours and
Speaker 1: I'm already hearing Samurai chattered in the boom, three distinct booms.
Speaker 1: I was just like, that was a ten squnch, nothing else,
Speaker 1: respect Nobody's standing out there with a tape cassette at
Speaker 1: three in the morning or in the morning. The next
Speaker 1: morning when he wakes up, I was like, honey, I've
Speaker 1: got to tell you. Last night, laying here, I couldn't sleep.
Speaker 1: All of a sudden I heard the and then boom.
Speaker 1: I said, I'm going outside. So I go outside and
Speaker 1: I'm trying to look for prints. I'm looking for anything
Speaker 1: because I'm like, this just can't be. And of course
Speaker 1: if you don't find anything, all the trees look fine,
Speaker 1: there's no footprints. But then again, it's going to rock,
Speaker 1: so I wouldn't expect to find a footprint on solid granite.
Speaker 1: I know that's what it was. I'm not going to
Speaker 1: miss this opportunity like I did up in Maine. Knowing now,
Speaker 1: I wish I would have known then. I would have
Speaker 1: been all over that main situation. I got two years
Speaker 1: of education now in two years, so now I know,
Speaker 1: Oh my gosh, yeah, that's like a huge regret that
Speaker 1: I have. Gosh, what an opportunity I missed in Maine,
Speaker 1: that I was so busy being fearful that I was
Speaker 1: reading the whole situation wrong. Like I said, I would
Speaker 1: have been out there leaving it gifts. I've been looking
Speaker 1: out the window. I've been doing a lot of things.
Speaker 1: Well now, when the samurai chatter happened, I said, I'm
Speaker 1: not missing this thing. So I said, I've got to
Speaker 1: find something to gift it. I want to try to
Speaker 1: interact with this thing. It was already here. It knows
Speaker 1: we're here. I don't know why it was here. Maybe
Speaker 1: it was in the woods because it was very wooded
Speaker 1: around there. Maybe it was already there and it saw
Speaker 1: us come in and waited for us to turn all
Speaker 1: the lights off before we did whatever. I don't know,
Speaker 1: but I said, I'm not going to miss this opportunity.
Speaker 1: So I looked around this rental property and they had
Speaker 1: some folded furniture outside, some like lawn furniture. So I
Speaker 1: went over. I grabbed the table and I took it
Speaker 1: over to the edge of the woods, but out of
Speaker 1: the table. And I'm like, Okay, now I got to
Speaker 1: figure out a gift. Now we're traveling, I don't have
Speaker 1: stuff to gift the Sasquatch, and personally, I'm opposed to
Speaker 1: gifting food. I think that's a bad idea for a
Speaker 1: lot of reasons. So I'm like, I got to figure
Speaker 1: out something to put out there. Let me just find
Speaker 1: a rock. We'll just start with the rock and see
Speaker 1: if anything happens with that. But take this, an ordinary
Speaker 1: rock that's all laying on the ground qd tanderine size,
Speaker 1: the one that was left, nothing big, but just something.
Speaker 1: And I left it there because we were going to
Speaker 1: be there for three days. Every day I would check it, untouched, unmoved, nothing,
Speaker 1: nothing else happened the whole entire time. And I was
Speaker 1: so disappointed because here is my chance to actually interact
Speaker 1: with something that tried to interact with me years ago,
Speaker 1: that I was petrified of, and nothing. It was time
Speaker 1: to leave. I throw the rock back in the woods,
Speaker 1: I fold up the table when we go home. That
Speaker 1: was August of twenty twenty four that I heard the
Speaker 1: samurai chatter up there. That was the end of that scenario,
Speaker 1: and I go into the Pacific Northwest. It was allergy time.
Speaker 1: It was time for me to hit the bricks and
Speaker 1: get out of Arkansas. So I was getting tired of
Speaker 1: going to Maine. I decided to try someplace out. Now
Speaker 1: that I've had that time of study, why not go
Speaker 1: to the big place so off to the Pacific northwest side.
Speaker 1: But now, of course I had to research it to
Speaker 1: see if the things I'm allergic to were in bloom there.
Speaker 1: But luckily they were not. So off I went. I
Speaker 1: rented a house in town because I did not even
Speaker 1: though the scenario that happened in Maine at the time
Speaker 1: was terrifying, but in hindsight was exciting, I still wanted
Speaker 1: my sleep at night. I didn't want something too remote
Speaker 1: because I wanted a little bit of distance. I wanted
Speaker 1: a buffer because you never know. In the years of
Speaker 1: learning about them and hearing different experiences through all the
Speaker 1: documentaries and this, that and the other, I come to learn
Speaker 1: that there's good ones, and then there's people who've had
Speaker 1: horrible experiences. So there's bad ones, and it's Forrest Gump,
Speaker 1: you don't know what you're gonna get type of thing,
Speaker 1: and so I did want a buffer just in case,
Speaker 1: So I got a house there in Port Angelis, Washington.
Speaker 1: I knew it was just on the outside of the
Speaker 1: official Olympic National Forest. That was the last stop before
Speaker 1: you get into the forest, so that was gonna be
Speaker 1: my headquarters. That was gonna be my base. I got
Speaker 1: a house there. Now this time I decided to stay
Speaker 1: there for a month and a half, just because I
Speaker 1: had learned that staying away for a month wasn't good enough.
Speaker 1: The pollen was still too active where I would come back,
Speaker 1: So now I had to stretch it out for a
Speaker 1: month and a half. When I go once again on
Speaker 1: my own, I don't know a soul there, never been
Speaker 1: there before, So once again stranger and a strange land.
Speaker 1: My husband once again comes up there with me, just
Speaker 1: to help get me settled, make sure everything is all good.
Speaker 1: So for the first several days we go just out
Speaker 1: doing tourist stuff. We're out doing a whale excursion where
Speaker 1: we go to the Hoe Rainforest, you know where, does
Speaker 1: all of the area, doing the typical tourist stuff. So
Speaker 1: now it's time for him to go home, and now
Speaker 1: I'm there alone. So now I'm more confident being alone,
Speaker 1: I'm confident going out into the woods. I was a
Speaker 1: little more confident, possibly with interactions, but still share a court,
Speaker 1: so to speak. I've never really been out in the
Speaker 1: woods actively looking for them. All the experiences I had
Speaker 1: up until that point, they had come to me. I'm
Speaker 1: going to run with the big dogs. I'm here, let's
Speaker 1: get after it. I've got two years under my belt.
Speaker 1: I start going out trying to find them. No, if
Speaker 1: you've ever been to the Pacific Northwest, it's like finding
Speaker 1: a needle in a haystack. Seriously, I was ridiculous thinking that.
Speaker 1: But I was just like, you know what, in all
Speaker 1: this time, they say they like people who are alone
Speaker 1: in the woods because it's less threatening. I was there alone.
Speaker 1: If they say they're less intimidated by women, hey check,
Speaker 1: they got that one with me. I was thinking, hey,
Speaker 1: maybe blonde hair, am my draw them into I'm seriously,
Speaker 1: I'm thinking of all these things, and why am I
Speaker 1: have going for me? Because I don't know the area,
Speaker 1: you know, so I don't know where to go. So
Speaker 1: they could go, okay hair, that's not necessarily maybe their collar.
Speaker 1: So I was like, let's just go for it. So
Speaker 1: I get there I'm just looking around Willy Nilly, just
Speaker 1: trying to find evidence of so So I'm looking for
Speaker 1: tree branch breaks, I'm looking for tree breaks, I'm looking
Speaker 1: for structures. Really didn't want to go into the woods
Speaker 1: by myself. I'm smart enough to know those woods are
Speaker 1: far different than the woods I have here in Arkansas.
Speaker 1: There are things in those woods up there that we
Speaker 1: don't have back here. I did not want to come
Speaker 1: in contact with them.
Speaker 3: I e.
Speaker 1: Bear, mountain lion, all that type of stuff. Even though
Speaker 1: here in Arkansas we have bear, never see them. So
Speaker 1: I was being smart about it. So I wasn't going
Speaker 1: to just go walking off into the woods on my own.
Speaker 1: So what I was doing was I was just driving
Speaker 1: and if something caught my eye, I would stop, pull
Speaker 1: over and investigate the area. It was called Hurricane Ridge
Speaker 1: those of you who are familiar with the area, No
Speaker 1: Hurricane Ridge. At one point farther into the season up
Speaker 1: in the elevation, that started getting icy and snowy, so
Speaker 1: they had shut off the access to Hurricane Ridge. So
Speaker 1: I was driving back down and I was like, Oh,
Speaker 1: I wonder where this road leads me? Where does this
Speaker 1: road go? And you start going down that road, even
Speaker 1: though I doped through a little small residential area. When
Speaker 1: you get past that area, you're out like a I'm
Speaker 1: just wow, this is very remote, even though there are houses,
Speaker 1: but still remote. Seeing things, I was like, Oh, how
Speaker 1: did that tree get up in that tree? Oh? Look
Speaker 1: at this. I was just seeing things that I had
Speaker 1: been seeing on TV all these years. The tree breaks,
Speaker 1: the weird things with the trees. Huh, all right, that's weird.
Speaker 1: Why is that tree like that? I was driving slow
Speaker 1: and I had my windows down just in case, because
Speaker 1: there was a bunch of ravens. They were going crazy.
Speaker 1: What in the world's that? Obviously I knew what ravens were,
Speaker 1: but I'm like, I've never seen that type of behavior.
Speaker 1: What's going on? That's weird. I put my car and
Speaker 1: parked into sat and watched them because it was hilarious.
Speaker 1: I had never seen a group of ravens act like
Speaker 1: that before. So, yeah, we have crows and we might
Speaker 1: have ravens. I don't know. I'm not a bird expert,
Speaker 1: but I know the typical the car type of thing.
Speaker 1: But besides that's all the bucalizations I know of those things.
Speaker 1: So when I saw them carrying on. I thought it
Speaker 1: was hilarious. So I was watching them and about five
Speaker 1: minutes so I'm like, they're just crazy. So I'd start
Speaker 1: to move on down the road slowly. Something told me, Angie, stop,
Speaker 1: so I stopped my car again. This time, I get
Speaker 1: out of the car. I have my phone with me
Speaker 1: and I start recording. I don't recognize that sound. I
Speaker 1: just keep recording. I'm thinking, I think that spot to
Speaker 1: come back and investigate, try to make any type of contact, because,
Speaker 1: like I said, I was seeing things. I nicknamed the
Speaker 1: area romper room. So now when you hear me refer
Speaker 1: to a rocker room, it's this particular spot. The reason
Speaker 1: why I call it romper room is you've ever been
Speaker 1: to the Pacific northwest, there are the forest floors like
Speaker 1: covered with this green mossy like like to call carpet.
Speaker 1: It's a very spongy and bouncy when you walk on it,
Speaker 1: everything is covered in it. To the forest, it just
Speaker 1: looked there were trees down everywhere, and it just looked
Speaker 1: like you could see monkeys, like baby monkeys, running and
Speaker 1: jumping over these logs. It just looked like a fun
Speaker 1: little play area. So fast forward recording. Is there and
Speaker 1: I was wondering, what in the world is on these recordings,
Speaker 1: not the birds, but the other thing, not to some
Speaker 1: organizations up there, and I wasn't hearing anything back. I
Speaker 1: was like, you know what, I have got to get
Speaker 1: an answer on this because I don't want to be
Speaker 1: getting stuff that's not really stuff. I was new with this,
Speaker 1: this was my first time. I just wanted somebody to say, yes,
Speaker 1: you're on the right track, or no, girl, that's just
Speaker 1: all ray then find some place else. So I'm like,
Speaker 1: you know what book conference over in Yakima, Washington here
Speaker 1: in a week. I'm like, I'm going to go to that.
Speaker 1: In the meantime, as I'm waiting to go to the
Speaker 1: big boot conference, I'm going out to the spot. Every day.
Speaker 1: I see footprints out there sat the breaks. I'm hearing
Speaker 1: things that I'm not saying that it is sasquatch because
Speaker 1: I don't know all the sounds of the area, of
Speaker 1: all the animals. At nighttime. I would go back and
Speaker 1: continue watching video and still continuing to learn. You always
Speaker 1: have to learn. So I was watching some Scott Carpenter videos.
Speaker 1: I saw him this thing with he would go out
Speaker 1: and put five rocks on a log and he would
Speaker 1: go back, like a week or two later and see
Speaker 1: if they had interaction. Sometimes he would do candy bars sometimes,
Speaker 1: and he was always saying that he would put five
Speaker 1: out fact there would be three and the other two
Speaker 1: would be thrown away. I'm I'm not getting anything out there.
Speaker 1: And when I go out there, this is a little
Speaker 1: stupid who don't go out and actively investigate. This is
Speaker 1: gonna sound stupid. But you go out there and you're
Speaker 1: just you're actively fucking out loud. But you're like, ye,
Speaker 1: I'm here. You're trying to interact with it. Do they
Speaker 1: understand us? I don't know, but it's just something that
Speaker 1: we do. So I'm out there trying to get any
Speaker 1: type of interaction. I'm out there singing because I heard
Speaker 1: it be like music. So I'm like, shoot, I'm a
Speaker 1: girl and I'm out here by myself singing. Surely that's
Speaker 1: got to draw on them. So I'm out there singing.
Speaker 1: I'm out there just talking. I'm clapping my hands hoping
Speaker 1: maybe i'll hear it clap back. Nothing sides weird sounds occasionally,
Speaker 1: but nothing like vocalizations. No tree knocks them and that stuff.
Speaker 1: So I'm like I'm gonna try it, got Carpenter. What
Speaker 1: am I gonna get liked? I'm opposed to gifting food.
Speaker 1: That's out of the question. I didn't want something that
Speaker 1: would make noise. I didn't want it to scare them.
Speaker 1: I'm sitting there and I'm looking in their toy section,
Speaker 1: going what can I bring. I saw some colored dice
Speaker 1: dice it is, so I pick up the colored dice
Speaker 1: and I go back out to roper room. But that
Speaker 1: I had it was a stump. This will be perfect.
Speaker 1: So I take out five colored dice. I take the
Speaker 1: dice and I set them on the stump and one
Speaker 1: straight line, just like Scott Carpenter did with his rocks.
Speaker 1: And I'm like, I'm gonna leave the number one facing
Speaker 1: straight up. So if something does come up and mess
Speaker 1: with something, I can tell that got messed with, whether
Speaker 1: it's got put back or not. There should be all
Speaker 1: ones facing up. I bought you some toys here, I
Speaker 1: am talking out loud, looking like a fool. I bought
Speaker 1: some toys. You're more than welcome to play with my toys.
Speaker 1: This type of thing. Now, tourists do not drive on
Speaker 1: this road. It is only for the locals who live
Speaker 1: at that little residential area I just drove through, and
Speaker 1: you would never see them. I would be sitting out
Speaker 1: there for hours, and I might have one car drive by.
Speaker 1: So in the weird case that somebody might see these dice,
Speaker 1: I'm gonna cover them up with bark. I'm gonna disguise
Speaker 1: it so nobody knows they're there. And that's what I did.
Speaker 1: I found a piece of bark on the ground, and
Speaker 1: I went over to the stump and I gently placed
Speaker 1: it on the stump, and it looked completely natural. You
Speaker 1: would have not known that was there in a million
Speaker 1: years driving by. Nobody was there when I was setting
Speaker 1: it up, so nobody knew it was there. So the
Speaker 1: next morning, on Friday, I pack up the car for
Speaker 1: the drive. I'm like, I'm gonna go check and see.
Speaker 1: And i'd get there and I lift up the bar
Speaker 1: gently nothing. They were all still just like I laid them.
Speaker 1: But my all right, Aungie, just wait, it's only been overnight.
Speaker 1: Just give us some time. Scott Carpenter said he would
Speaker 1: leave his out there for a week or more. If
Speaker 1: you've left there one night, you remember I've left you
Speaker 1: some toys. I'm gonna be gone for a couple of days,
Speaker 1: but I'll see you for a couple of days. Get
Speaker 1: the car, drive off the Yakima.
Speaker 2: Stay tuned for more sasquatch out to see. We're right
Speaker 2: back after these messages.
Speaker 1: Get to Yakima. Fantastic time at the Big Boot conference,
Speaker 1: great speakers, got to meet Jeff Meldram and some other people.
Speaker 1: Found some people from an organization that was willing to
Speaker 1: listen to my recordings and they said, oh, those sound interesting.
Speaker 1: Can you send those to us because we want to
Speaker 1: listen to them more and deeper. I said, do you
Speaker 1: think I got something now? The funny thing is as
Speaker 1: they were listening, I was listening to them too, because
Speaker 1: they wanted like a preliminary listen, just to see if
Speaker 1: it was even going to be worth their time listening
Speaker 1: to it. As they're listening to it, and I said,
Speaker 1: this is a disclaimer. If I've ever done anything wrong,
Speaker 1: it's always not on purpose. As a newbie, as a beginner,
Speaker 1: i've ever made a mistake anything, I will always clarify it.
Speaker 1: So I got these recordings for listening to him, and
Speaker 1: sometimes it did sound kind of monkeysh I ain't gonna lie.
Speaker 1: They're listening to him. One of the people would get
Speaker 1: their eyebrow. They would raise up when like that particular sound.
Speaker 1: I kept saying, I don't know what that is. Every
Speaker 1: time that sound would happen, his eyebrow would go up,
Speaker 1: and he would just look at me. I'm like, what
Speaker 1: do you here something. He goes, I don't know what
Speaker 1: that is either, and I said, you don't know what
Speaker 1: that is? He's no, I was like to cheating type
Speaker 1: of thing. I'm like, good baby, I actually am in
Speaker 1: a good spot. I stumbled upon this spot. I thought
Speaker 1: I had something, but I wasn't sure I had something,
Speaker 1: so I wanted somebody to listen. This is one of
Speaker 1: the mistakes I made. I said, but what about this
Speaker 1: monkey talk? And he's like, girl, those are ravens. I said,
Speaker 1: what I said, that's not It sounded just like when
Speaker 1: monkeys are getting themselves wound up. It sounded just like that,
Speaker 1: and he goes, no ravens do that. I said, oh,
Speaker 1: we're crying out loud. I said, perfect, I have no problem. Okay,
Speaker 1: I'm wrong on that. No worries great. I said, That's
Speaker 1: where I wanted to be set straight. So I wasn't
Speaker 1: saying wrong things. But I'm fine with being wrong. Those
Speaker 1: are ravens. No problem with that, I said, but what's
Speaker 1: that other sound? He goes that other sound? He goes,
Speaker 1: I don't know, and I said good, and he goes,
Speaker 1: can I have these and pass news around to people
Speaker 1: to see what they think? I said, sure, And so
Speaker 1: they have those recordings and I'm still waiting to hear
Speaker 1: back on those. But I knew at that point I
Speaker 1: was on the right track. I was at a place
Speaker 1: that I was reading the signals right. So bigfoot smar
Speaker 1: happens Saturday, make the long drive back Sunday, and I
Speaker 1: got back Sunday. I was too exhausted, so I didn't
Speaker 1: go out to check my dice on Sunday. So Monday
Speaker 1: morning rolls around and I jump out of bed and
Speaker 1: I head out there because I am dying to know
Speaker 1: if anything happened over the weekend. And I get there
Speaker 1: and I pull up, I get to my stump and
Speaker 1: before I do, right before the stump, fine of footprints,
Speaker 1: but it's on pavement, and I was like police smoke,
Speaker 1: So in bated breath, I walk around and I get
Speaker 1: into the front of the stump. As I'm walking up,
Speaker 1: I already see one dice at the bottom of the stump.
Speaker 1: Oh my gosh. So I lift up the piece of bark.
Speaker 1: There was only three dice there. Two were gone. I
Speaker 1: just sat there shot for a moment and said, Holly canoli.
Speaker 1: They interacted with it, and it was just like, now
Speaker 1: what it was like. I wanted to do cartwheels. I
Speaker 1: just wanted to be like, this worked, this worked. Where's
Speaker 1: the other dice? I think? Okay, Scott Carpenter said, they
Speaker 1: just threw his off to the side. They did the one.
Speaker 1: I could clearly see the one that was at my feet,
Speaker 1: But where's the other one? I'm looking all around now,
Speaker 1: mind you. They were colored dice. I didn't know what
Speaker 1: color was missing. I couldn't remember all the colors, but
Speaker 1: I knew the green one was at my feet and
Speaker 1: I saw the other ones up there, So I'm like,
Speaker 1: which one's missing. I looked at my phone. I took
Speaker 1: a screenshot on my phone before I left, so I
Speaker 1: knew the exact order. It's the black one, the black
Speaker 1: one missing. I'm looking around and of all the colors,
Speaker 1: the black one because all the dirt looked there from
Speaker 1: the rain all the time. It's always black I'm I
Speaker 1: gonna find So I'm looking and as I'm looking, white
Speaker 1: as I moved my head a certain way, and I
Speaker 1: was like, wait, what the dice was there? But it
Speaker 1: was shoved into a hole. And the white was the dice.
Speaker 1: The dice itself was black, but the dots were white.
Speaker 1: And that's what I had caught my eye, and that's
Speaker 1: what let me see it. The black dice was shoved
Speaker 1: into the hole. The green one was just laying at
Speaker 1: the bottom, just wide open for anybody walking up could
Speaker 1: see it. But the black one was shoved into a hole.
Speaker 1: And I was like, wow, they interacted with it, And
Speaker 1: now what do I do now? So I picked up
Speaker 1: the dice and I took pictures. This time, I'm like,
Speaker 1: all right, I'm gonna reset it, but I'm not going
Speaker 1: to reset it the way it was. We're just going
Speaker 1: to keep this little game going. So I left the
Speaker 1: three original ones the way they were, so the way
Speaker 1: they originally replaced stayed that way. They were in the
Speaker 1: same order. I'd never even touched them, and all the
Speaker 1: ones were facing up. The two that had been tossed aside.
Speaker 1: I picked up and I put to the far left
Speaker 1: of the stump. So now there was a gap, there
Speaker 1: was three, a gap and the two. But on the
Speaker 1: two I made the number two base up on those
Speaker 1: two days. So if anything was to come back and
Speaker 1: mess with them, then maybe just put it back down.
Speaker 1: I would know, because maybe the number wouldn't be the
Speaker 1: same once again. I start talking out loud. Hey, you
Speaker 1: found my toys, pep. We're playing with them. You're more
Speaker 1: welcome to play with them again. I'm gonna go, but
Speaker 1: I'm gonna cover them back up, but feel free to
Speaker 1: play with them again. So you cover them up. And
Speaker 1: I left, and I was this on cloud nine. I
Speaker 1: wait a couple of days, go back. Nothing. Okay, hasn't
Speaker 1: been enough time. It took a couple of days before,
Speaker 1: so maybe it's gonna take a couple of days now.
Speaker 1: Now at this point, I'm getting a little anxious because
Speaker 1: it's starting to wind down. My time up there in
Speaker 1: my head, I'm thinking of white beads. You need to,
Speaker 1: you know, be interacting with me. Our time is short.
Speaker 1: I go back and I look nothing. Okay, maybe they
Speaker 1: don't like my new layout, so let's change it back
Speaker 1: to how it was before. So this time I made
Speaker 1: it a whole straight line again. But I still left
Speaker 1: the number twos up just in case, and I covered
Speaker 1: it back up, came back checked it nothing. So now
Speaker 1: it was before the day I was supposed to lead.
Speaker 1: In the process of packing up, I'm like, I got
Speaker 1: to get up there and check. So I go up
Speaker 1: there and check. And this time as I'm lifting up,
Speaker 1: the bark falls apart in my hands. Oh but then
Speaker 1: I look and the dice were untouched. They only messed
Speaker 1: with them the one time. I'm like, oh, heartbroken, I
Speaker 1: pack everything up. I left them a little crystal for
Speaker 1: them before I left. Hopefully they got it. I like
Speaker 1: in my heart to think that they did. But with
Speaker 1: all their interaction, the one time they did with the dice,
Speaker 1: I just felt it was a nice little thing to
Speaker 1: say thank you and hopefully remember me next time. I
Speaker 1: had to think, but, yeah, they were playing with my dice.
Speaker 2: That is definitely interesting. I've had some things that I
Speaker 2: consider to be possible gifting here on the property. I've
Speaker 2: had weird things show up over the last couple of years.
Speaker 2: Things have been moved. I believe it's Sasquatch activity. Yeah,
Speaker 2: I want to go back to your original siding when
Speaker 2: you were a kid. I have a question about that.
Speaker 2: I know you were aware of bigfoot sasquatch back then
Speaker 2: because of what was going on television at the time
Speaker 2: you saw this thing. Did you think that's what you
Speaker 2: had seen when you were sixteen seventeen, or did that
Speaker 2: sort of click for you later on in life after
Speaker 2: you learn more about these things.
Speaker 1: At the time when I saw it, I didn't know
Speaker 1: what I was seeing. I guess probably the lack of
Speaker 1: a better word in my brain at that time, where
Speaker 1: had just been a monster. Looking back now I realized
Speaker 1: what it was, but I didn't make that correlation until
Speaker 1: after Maine and I saw going the deep dive into
Speaker 1: all things bigfoot, fasquatch. That's what it was. One of
Speaker 1: those movies when a character is like putting the dass
Speaker 1: together and they're like the sequence of events like this
Speaker 1: tunnel less gold past their head. That's what it was.
Speaker 1: Deers is like all these experiences started filling in the dot.
Speaker 1: The rock throwing, the looking in my window, the walking,
Speaker 1: the heavy foot steps we could hear. Now that all
Speaker 1: makes sense. To go a little bit farther back with
Speaker 1: the rocks being thrown, I surmise this is just my
Speaker 1: guess is we were in between where we were in
Speaker 1: the middle of where it was wanting to go. We
Speaker 1: were in between it getting back to that mountain, and
Speaker 1: I think it was throwing rocks at us to scare
Speaker 1: so Wando. So it continued to get back to the mountain,
Speaker 1: and we just happened to be in its way. That's
Speaker 1: the adult Angie looking back on it. The teenage Angie
Speaker 1: at the time didn't know what was going on.
Speaker 2: Literally, when you were talking about watching Finding Bigfoot, Cliff
Speaker 2: was calling my cell phone. We've been playing phone tag
Speaker 2: for a week. I've been trying to catch up with Cliff.
Speaker 2: Cliff a Goo buddy of mine. He actually wrote the
Speaker 2: forward to my book, and I'm hoping to hang out
Speaker 2: with him in May up at the Ohio Bigfoot Conference.
Speaker 2: If you've never done that conference, it is really a
Speaker 2: really good experience. So if you get a chance to do.
Speaker 1: It, love to go. Jeer.
Speaker 2: It's usually the first week in May. You mentioned the
Speaker 2: late Scott Carpenter some of his videos.
Speaker 1: Scott was a.
Speaker 2: Little out there in some of the theories that he
Speaker 2: had on Bigfoot. So let me ask you this. You've
Speaker 2: taken the nosedive down the proverbial bigfoot rabbit hole. There's
Speaker 2: obviously the WU, there's a flesh and blood camp. Where
Speaker 2: are you in your research into these things, all the
Speaker 2: things that you've learned? Obviously it's completely subjective, It's not
Speaker 2: even a fair question to ask, but I ask it anyway.
Speaker 2: Where are you on the difference in the flesh and
Speaker 2: blood versus some of the WU experiences that people have,
Speaker 2: as far as just your personal opinion about these creatures
Speaker 2: and the research that you've done.
Speaker 1: That is a loaded question because nobody, luckily can be
Speaker 1: one hundred percent sure yet, so it is all speculation.
Speaker 1: One day on one place and another day I'm another place.
Speaker 1: So in my heart I would love to think they
Speaker 1: are flesh and blood. But what does that mean. Do
Speaker 1: I believe that it's an ape? I don't do. I
Speaker 1: believe it is an alien of some sort or from
Speaker 1: another realm. I don't think that for myself. I am
Speaker 1: not there yet. I'm not on that end of the
Speaker 1: spectrum yet. Where I am is somewhere between. I think
Speaker 1: it is some sort of human that did not go extinct,
Speaker 1: nor did it fully. And I don't even want to
Speaker 1: say evol because I'm not an evolutionist. I'm a creationist.
Speaker 1: I believe in God. I'm at a place where I'm
Speaker 1: wrestling with the whole creation and these guys. So at
Speaker 1: this point, I feel it is an old relic, for
Speaker 1: lack of a better word, I think it's a human
Speaker 1: type thing that is Harry. As far as who, I
Speaker 1: understand the WO I understand why there's only one footprint
Speaker 1: and there's nothing else heap scratcher, I don't get it.
Speaker 1: There's a lot of things about it, like with everybody else,
Speaker 1: I don't understand. But that's where I'm at right now.
Speaker 2: I appreciate your answer. Like I said, it's completely subjective,
Speaker 2: and I certainly don't ask that question often on the show,
Speaker 2: but it's something I like to know. It's a curiosity
Speaker 2: for me, I guess the last question. For me, this
Speaker 2: is something that I've learned over the last few years
Speaker 2: doing this. Everybody who's into this, a lot of us
Speaker 2: are on the same page and we have the same
Speaker 2: goals in mind. But I think this research and what
Speaker 2: keeps people coming back is different for everybody. So let
Speaker 2: me ask you this. You've had your citing, although it
Speaker 2: was brief and you didn't know what you were dealing
Speaker 2: with at the time when you were around sixteen. What
Speaker 2: drives you in your research for these things? What's the
Speaker 2: end game for you? Do you want them recognized by science?
Speaker 2: Is it more about having more experiences?
Speaker 1: For you?
Speaker 2: What keeps you coming back to the bigfoot well and
Speaker 2: doing this research and keeps you interested in the subject.
Speaker 1: Oh, there's so many things. For myself, I don't necessarily
Speaker 1: call myself a researcher. I like to call myself a looker.
Speaker 1: I like to look for them my stances. Let me
Speaker 1: go out and document experiences that I get, and in
Speaker 1: those experiences, hopefully that can help the actual researcher say,
Speaker 1: oh that happened to that girl, Oh that happened to
Speaker 1: that person or whatever, let's start looking more into that.
Speaker 1: So I'm hoping that the experiences that I had and
Speaker 1: I share and I post will help the researchers along,
Speaker 1: but it will also help the unbelievers go maybe they're
Speaker 1: not all based, Maybe there's something to this. So what
Speaker 1: keeps me going is the experience. I'm not an adrenaline drunk,
Speaker 1: you don't get me wrong. I do get the the
Speaker 1: gg scared out of me out there. I had an
Speaker 1: incident happen when I got back from Washington, where I
Speaker 1: got back in town here in Arkansas, that happened, and yeah,
Speaker 1: it scared the the ggi's out of me. I like
Speaker 1: to document the experiences and put them out there for
Speaker 1: people to see and to say we're not crazy. There
Speaker 1: is something out in these woods. Should you be afraid?
Speaker 1: Maybe nobody knows. Like I said earlier, there's good ones
Speaker 1: and bad ones, and I don't know what the type
Speaker 1: of one you're gonna encounter if you encounter one. So yeah,
Speaker 1: be afraid, but be smart. Keep your head about you
Speaker 1: as much as you can. But if something gets thrown
Speaker 1: at you, slightly leave the area. Do keep pressing on.
Speaker 1: You might be asking for something you don't want. If
Speaker 1: you hear something happening, you could growl that I hear you,
Speaker 1: I mean to get your territory. I'll turn around and
Speaker 1: leave now, sorry, and get out of there. Don't just
Speaker 1: keep going. They're trying to alert you, Hey, you're someplace
Speaker 1: you shouldn't be. You know, heed those warnings, and I
Speaker 1: think your experiences will probably be more on the more
Speaker 1: pleasant side. But I think if you ignore those and
Speaker 1: just keep pushing and pushing I think they're going to
Speaker 1: get a little more aggressive. Now that's a blanket statement.
Speaker 1: All of them are different, you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: So even though I say that, you still go in
Speaker 1: on your guard. Could you never know what it will do?
Speaker 1: You just don't.
Speaker 2: Speaking of sharing your experiences, I know you recently started
Speaker 2: a YouTube channel. Why don't you tell us a little
Speaker 2: bit about that where people can find your stuff?
Speaker 1: Yeah? So, I literally you're right just started it. I
Speaker 1: only have three or four videos up there right now.
Speaker 1: It's called swatch you're doing. I'm just putting out experiences
Speaker 1: that I've had. So the ones that we've talked about
Speaker 1: today are on there. Like I said, there's one that's
Speaker 1: on there that we didn't talk about today that a
Speaker 1: branch got thrown my direction out at the river that
Speaker 1: I was at when I got back here in Arkansas.
Speaker 1: That one's out there. As I get new stuff, I'll
Speaker 1: put it out there. You never know when stuff's going
Speaker 1: to happen. When you go out into the wood. Stuff
Speaker 1: doesn't happen every time. There were several years where nothing happened.
Speaker 1: So I'm trying to put stuff out. But if I
Speaker 1: don't have experiences and there's nothing to put out. I'll
Speaker 1: just always be honest about it. I'm not going to
Speaker 1: create or fake something just to put it out there,
Speaker 1: just to keep my views going. I'll only put something
Speaker 1: out when there's something to put out. You guys, go
Speaker 1: check it out.
Speaker 2: I will link to it on the blog. You hit
Speaker 2: over to Paranormoraldproductions dot com. Check out the Sasquatch out
Speaker 2: to Sea blog the top of the page, and I
Speaker 2: will link to Squatch of doing. You guys, go over,
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Speaker 1: Angie.
Speaker 2: I appreciate you coming on the show. I've had a
Speaker 2: blast talking to you.
Speaker 1: Thank you, Thank you so much. I had a blast
Speaker 1: talk with you as well. They say you don't gotta
Speaker 1: go home, but you can't stay. I don't want to
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