WEBVTT 1 00:00:02.480 --> 00:00:05.919 Welcome back truth seekers from around the world. It's time 2 00:00:05.960 --> 00:00:08.960 for another edition of the Flat Earth Files podcast as 3 00:00:08.960 --> 00:00:11.960 we record on this Friday, July eleventh, twenty twenty five. 4 00:00:12.039 --> 00:00:14.679 Hope everybody having a great week and you had a 5 00:00:14.720 --> 00:00:17.120 great weekend. We have a special guest joining us today 6 00:00:17.160 --> 00:00:19.800 from the great state of Louisiana. He'll be on just 7 00:00:19.839 --> 00:00:22.719 a moment Blaine before, So just a quick reminder if 8 00:00:22.760 --> 00:00:25.839 you'd like to join the podcast, like Blaine is today 9 00:00:25.879 --> 00:00:28.879 and so many others have before, please send us an email. 10 00:00:28.960 --> 00:00:32.960 It is fe filesguest at gmail dot com. Again, that 11 00:00:33.079 --> 00:00:36.960 is f isn't Frankie is an Echo filesguest at gmail 12 00:00:36.960 --> 00:00:38.920 dot com. We'll get a questionnaire out to you just 13 00:00:38.960 --> 00:00:42.280 as soon as we can, and we're scheduled. It is 14 00:00:42.320 --> 00:00:44.200 a little backed up right now, so we ask for 15 00:00:44.240 --> 00:00:46.159 your patients. We're trying to work through the August and 16 00:00:46.200 --> 00:00:49.759 September schedule. We've gotten a plethora of emails over the 17 00:00:49.799 --> 00:00:51.079 last two weeks, so we. 18 00:00:51.079 --> 00:00:53.799 Haven't forgotten about you. Just bear with us. 19 00:00:53.679 --> 00:00:56.520 As we make our way through with everything else going 20 00:00:56.560 --> 00:01:00.280 on in life. So thank you all for continue you'd 21 00:01:00.320 --> 00:01:02.679 support of the podcast and the folks that want to 22 00:01:02.679 --> 00:01:05.840 get on and share their story like Blaine is today 23 00:01:05.879 --> 00:01:08.280 and without any further ado, let's go ahead and bring 24 00:01:08.359 --> 00:01:12.519 on today's guest and Blaine from Louisiana. Sir, thanks again for. 25 00:01:12.519 --> 00:01:13.319 Joining us tonight. 26 00:01:14.000 --> 00:01:16.000 Hey George, were you I'm doing great. 27 00:01:17.640 --> 00:01:19.840 Welcome back from your vacation. You've had a lot of 28 00:01:19.879 --> 00:01:22.120 time to ponder the things we're going to talk about today, 29 00:01:22.159 --> 00:01:24.959 and before we get into that, I guess introduce yourself 30 00:01:25.000 --> 00:01:25.599 to the audience. 31 00:01:26.840 --> 00:01:30.560 Yeah, I'm forty five years old. I got four daughters. 32 00:01:31.480 --> 00:01:34.280 I live in south eastern Louisiana. I've been here for 33 00:01:34.280 --> 00:01:36.319 about fifteen years, but I've kind of lived all over 34 00:01:36.359 --> 00:01:42.239 the place. My dad worked for the government, so born 35 00:01:42.280 --> 00:01:46.359 in New Jersey, lived in Pennsylvania, Montana, Idaho, Utah. I've 36 00:01:46.359 --> 00:01:54.239 lived in Mexico, Ecuador, California. But I came here, oh, 37 00:01:54.640 --> 00:01:59.159 fifteen years ago with the big construction company, ended up staying. So, 38 00:02:01.120 --> 00:02:03.599 you know, I guess, first and foremost, I'm a faller 39 00:02:03.640 --> 00:02:07.480 of Jesus Christ, and through that that's kind of led 40 00:02:07.519 --> 00:02:10.680 me into, you know, the things we'll talk about tonight. 41 00:02:11.800 --> 00:02:12.159 Amen. 42 00:02:12.360 --> 00:02:13.919 You know, I know a lot of people who spent 43 00:02:14.039 --> 00:02:16.919 some time in Ecuador, and I doing some research. There's 44 00:02:16.960 --> 00:02:20.759 a lot of expats that have since moved. Even a 45 00:02:20.800 --> 00:02:22.479 lot of people in the Truth community I know have 46 00:02:22.520 --> 00:02:24.159 spent some time there and they really enjoy it. 47 00:02:24.199 --> 00:02:28.319 I guess the dollar goes a long way. And what 48 00:02:28.400 --> 00:02:29.919 was your experience down there in Ecuador? 49 00:02:30.719 --> 00:02:33.639 Well, I went down there on a Mormon mission for 50 00:02:33.719 --> 00:02:38.000 the Mormon Church. I grew up Mormon. I was born 51 00:02:38.039 --> 00:02:40.800 into it. My dad's side, I would have been the 52 00:02:40.879 --> 00:02:44.719 third generation. Mom's side would have been second generation. So 53 00:02:45.719 --> 00:02:48.520 I don't know how much you know about the Mormon Church, 54 00:02:48.599 --> 00:02:52.439 but all the young men are expected to serve a 55 00:02:52.560 --> 00:02:54.599 mission to your mission. It's kind of like almost a 56 00:02:54.680 --> 00:02:57.680 rite of passage. So I was down there as a 57 00:02:57.680 --> 00:03:01.080 missionary and my experience was awesome. I love the place. 58 00:03:02.639 --> 00:03:05.240 Yeah, and I know that is part of kind of 59 00:03:05.479 --> 00:03:10.360 your journey. And Joseph Smith, I know he was the founder. 60 00:03:10.400 --> 00:03:13.360 It goes back to the eighteen hundreds and is based 61 00:03:13.400 --> 00:03:15.719 on missionary work. And if I'm not mistaken, what is 62 00:03:15.759 --> 00:03:16.439 it BYU? 63 00:03:16.960 --> 00:03:21.360 Is based on that BYU. Yeah. So there's a school 64 00:03:21.680 --> 00:03:23.759 in the big schools in Utah, and then they have 65 00:03:23.800 --> 00:03:26.400 another school in Idaho. So I actually went to I 66 00:03:26.439 --> 00:03:30.639 went to college at b yu Idaho as well. Is 67 00:03:30.680 --> 00:03:36.439 that right, Yeah, yeah, so born into it, you know, 68 00:03:36.560 --> 00:03:40.840 and just was I was kind of a black sheet 69 00:03:40.879 --> 00:03:46.759 my whole life. But it's a lot of a lot 70 00:03:46.800 --> 00:03:50.680 of kind of shaming and stuff like that in the church. 71 00:03:51.039 --> 00:03:53.439 So I ended up I went on a mission actually 72 00:03:53.439 --> 00:03:57.360 two years late. Typically they go, well now I think 73 00:03:57.360 --> 00:03:59.680 it's eighteen, it used to be nineteen, and I went 74 00:03:59.680 --> 00:04:04.919 one about twenty one just because I had I had 75 00:04:04.919 --> 00:04:07.080 some past sin. They make you wait for and stuff 76 00:04:07.120 --> 00:04:11.280 like that. But it was, uh, you know, other other 77 00:04:11.360 --> 00:04:16.480 than you know, not knowing at the time, deceiving people, 78 00:04:16.720 --> 00:04:24.279 the experience itself was wonderful. Anyway, I got back, got 79 00:04:24.319 --> 00:04:29.360 back from my mission, went to college at Byuidaho. I 80 00:04:29.480 --> 00:04:32.279 ended up getting married. I got married in the Mormon 81 00:04:32.319 --> 00:04:38.959 temple as well. And that that itself, if anyone's familiar 82 00:04:38.959 --> 00:04:42.720 with Mormonism, is kind of you know, like the the 83 00:04:42.800 --> 00:04:45.040 high the high level thing to do. Not anybody can 84 00:04:45.079 --> 00:04:48.240 go to a Mormon temple. So I'm not sure what 85 00:04:48.279 --> 00:04:50.879 the percentages are, but you know, there's a certain percentage 86 00:04:50.879 --> 00:04:54.480 of Mormons that they call temple worthy that you're allowed 87 00:04:54.480 --> 00:04:56.319 to go to the temple, and you do you know, 88 00:04:56.399 --> 00:04:58.959 basically these different rituals and ceremonies there. 89 00:05:01.079 --> 00:05:01.800 That's interesting. 90 00:05:01.839 --> 00:05:03.399 You know, I've had a few guests in the past 91 00:05:03.439 --> 00:05:06.839 that have been part of the Latter day Saints at 92 00:05:06.839 --> 00:05:09.600 a certain part in their life. 93 00:05:10.240 --> 00:05:10.600 Was it. 94 00:05:12.079 --> 00:05:14.839 How, I guess where did you start to see your 95 00:05:14.879 --> 00:05:18.480 beliefs start to differ from from the Latter day Saints? 96 00:05:18.480 --> 00:05:23.519 And you know, now you're a Christianity follower of Christ. 97 00:05:23.560 --> 00:05:26.120 And I know that the LDS is that they call 98 00:05:26.199 --> 00:05:29.680 themselves the Church of Jesus Christ, and they were born 99 00:05:29.839 --> 00:05:31.120 in the Second Grade Awakening. 100 00:05:31.160 --> 00:05:36.959 I've written some sorry, just had a race cargo by. 101 00:05:38.160 --> 00:05:40.800 I wrote many articles on substacts about the first Grade 102 00:05:40.839 --> 00:05:43.439 Awakening in the seventeen fifties, and the LDS Church was 103 00:05:43.480 --> 00:05:46.040 part of the Second Grade Awakening, which was this passionate 104 00:05:46.079 --> 00:05:51.439 movement you know in the United States kind of a revival, 105 00:05:51.759 --> 00:05:54.519 a grassroots revival. And they always seem to be hijacked. 106 00:05:55.000 --> 00:05:59.399 But but how did your journey, you know, going from 107 00:05:59.399 --> 00:06:01.240 one to the other. And by the way, when you 108 00:06:01.240 --> 00:06:04.160 talk about the Mormon Temple, it says only members of 109 00:06:04.199 --> 00:06:06.480 the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter day Saints who 110 00:06:06.519 --> 00:06:10.759 have been recommended and are in good standing are allowed 111 00:06:10.759 --> 00:06:14.560 to enter. Non members can only enter during open houses. 112 00:06:15.439 --> 00:06:19.399 Correct, Yeah, yeah, you also have to be one of 113 00:06:19.399 --> 00:06:21.160 the big things. You have to be a full tithe 114 00:06:21.199 --> 00:06:26.240 payer to the Mormon Church, which is ten percent of 115 00:06:26.279 --> 00:06:31.160 everything you earn, and that is through your temple recommend 116 00:06:31.879 --> 00:06:35.319 That is actually they verified. They do a they call 117 00:06:35.360 --> 00:06:37.720 it tiding settlement every year where you actually have to 118 00:06:37.759 --> 00:06:41.800 take in your your tax returns really and if if 119 00:06:41.839 --> 00:06:44.560 you've cheated them somehow, they'll they'll. 120 00:06:45.000 --> 00:06:49.240 They'll difference what's that, They'll ask for the difference. 121 00:06:49.560 --> 00:06:51.399 Ask for the difference or to take away your temple 122 00:06:51.439 --> 00:06:54.319 recommend and then it's it's kind of the shame thing again, 123 00:06:54.360 --> 00:06:57.199 you know, if you lose the temple recommend everyone's like, oh, 124 00:06:57.199 --> 00:07:00.800 what did you know what this person do? So I 125 00:07:00.839 --> 00:07:04.319 guess I guess my kind of story with I mean, 126 00:07:04.360 --> 00:07:08.600 I kind of bought into it, fully, I guess I 127 00:07:08.720 --> 00:07:12.120 started I look back now and I started questioning I 128 00:07:12.160 --> 00:07:16.600 guess years ago. And I'll get into it too. But 129 00:07:16.720 --> 00:07:23.000 I'm an ex drug addict, seventeen years of drugs, just 130 00:07:23.120 --> 00:07:29.040 absolute hell. But anyway, through my path of drugs, one 131 00:07:29.079 --> 00:07:33.000 time myself and people around me were trying to do 132 00:07:33.000 --> 00:07:35.360 anything they could to get me off drugs. And one 133 00:07:35.360 --> 00:07:37.839 time they took me to it was some It was 134 00:07:37.879 --> 00:07:40.199 in California. It was this little teeny kind of like 135 00:07:40.959 --> 00:07:45.639 house church, I guess, kind of Pentecostal. And that was 136 00:07:45.680 --> 00:07:50.000 the first time I had ever seen I mean, there 137 00:07:50.040 --> 00:07:51.800 was a guy in a wheelchair they prayed for and 138 00:07:51.839 --> 00:07:53.759 he got up and walked around, and I was like 139 00:07:53.800 --> 00:07:55.560 what because I'd never seen any of this stuff in 140 00:07:55.600 --> 00:07:59.439 the Mormon Church. And they teach you the Mormon Church 141 00:07:59.600 --> 00:08:02.079 that it's you know, it's the fullness of the Gospel, 142 00:08:02.639 --> 00:08:05.480 the restoration. So they believe in what they call the 143 00:08:05.519 --> 00:08:10.240 Great Apostasy, so after Jesus and the Apostles, the truth 144 00:08:10.399 --> 00:08:14.399 was taken from the earth, and that it was restored 145 00:08:14.439 --> 00:08:18.319 by Joseph Smith. And when I started to see things 146 00:08:18.360 --> 00:08:20.240 like that, I was kind of like, well, if this 147 00:08:20.319 --> 00:08:22.600 is the fullness of the Gospel, where's it over here? 148 00:08:22.759 --> 00:08:27.000 Like what, you know, what? Why why am I not 149 00:08:27.040 --> 00:08:30.040 seeing people being healed and things like that. But you know, 150 00:08:30.319 --> 00:08:36.960 it kind of went on. So my mom, my mom 151 00:08:37.000 --> 00:08:40.080 got a horseback riding accident twenty years and was it 152 00:08:40.120 --> 00:08:44.080 twenty yeah, twenty twenty one years ago and and she 153 00:08:44.200 --> 00:08:47.720 was in a coma for a week and died. And 154 00:08:47.759 --> 00:08:49.919 that was that was real hard. And shortly after that 155 00:08:51.759 --> 00:08:56.440 I got I had some dental work done and the 156 00:08:56.519 --> 00:08:59.840 dentist prescribed me some pills that he probably shouldn't have. 157 00:09:00.039 --> 00:09:04.080 Oh no, and uh, I started I started taking those, 158 00:09:04.320 --> 00:09:07.519 you know, taking too many. You know, it felt great, 159 00:09:07.919 --> 00:09:10.320 and then you know, you let into you know, take 160 00:09:10.399 --> 00:09:12.639 take some with a beer. Then I started buying him 161 00:09:12.679 --> 00:09:14.559 on the street. That happened for about a year and 162 00:09:14.600 --> 00:09:19.440 a half. And if you know anything about you know, painkillers, 163 00:09:19.799 --> 00:09:25.360 opiates is basically like pharmaceutical great heroin. It's it's made 164 00:09:25.360 --> 00:09:28.919 from you know, basically the same the same things. So 165 00:09:28.960 --> 00:09:31.000 one day I was at work and I was, you 166 00:09:31.039 --> 00:09:33.000 end up getting sick if you don't have the stuff. 167 00:09:33.000 --> 00:09:35.720 I mean, definitely sick. I mean it's it's hideous. And 168 00:09:35.759 --> 00:09:39.240 I was sick, and uh, a buddy of mine called me, 169 00:09:40.039 --> 00:09:42.039 and uh, he said, hey, I got something to make 170 00:09:42.080 --> 00:09:44.679 you feel better. Come over. This is in Salt Lake City, 171 00:09:45.200 --> 00:09:47.000 So I mean, I just left work, that's how bad 172 00:09:47.039 --> 00:09:50.080 you get. I flew to his house and he pulled 173 00:09:50.120 --> 00:09:52.720 out a bag of a black tar heroin and I said, 174 00:09:52.960 --> 00:09:55.320 I'm not, I'm not shooting anything. And he said, you 175 00:09:55.320 --> 00:09:57.679 don't have to. Uh, he said, you can smoke it, 176 00:09:57.759 --> 00:10:00.600 you can snort it. So long story short, I smoked it, 177 00:10:00.679 --> 00:10:05.240 never bought pills again. And it goes to show and 178 00:10:05.360 --> 00:10:12.000 this is part of the story Jesus talks about. I 179 00:10:12.000 --> 00:10:14.759 think it's in Matthew where he says he's talking about 180 00:10:14.759 --> 00:10:16.279 casting the demon out of that guy, and he says 181 00:10:16.320 --> 00:10:20.320 the demon will go to dry and arid places and 182 00:10:20.320 --> 00:10:22.720 if it comes back and find its home swept clean, 183 00:10:22.919 --> 00:10:25.679 it'll come back with seven more demons and he will 184 00:10:25.720 --> 00:10:29.399 be worse off than he was before. And this is 185 00:10:29.440 --> 00:10:34.200 exactly how it happens. So I started on pills. By 186 00:10:34.240 --> 00:10:38.759 the time I was done, I was shooting fentanyl and 187 00:10:38.840 --> 00:10:46.320 crack cocaine in my neck. And so anyway, just a 188 00:10:46.320 --> 00:10:50.000 long journey. I knew it was, you know, wrong, the 189 00:10:50.000 --> 00:10:52.639 whole time. We'll try to get it. It's it's it's 190 00:10:52.879 --> 00:10:56.879 you can't. It's so hard to get off of. And anyway, 191 00:10:56.960 --> 00:11:00.399 there's there's a whole spiritual component to it that you know. 192 00:11:00.440 --> 00:11:03.279 I learned a little bit later on. But so I 193 00:11:03.320 --> 00:11:10.639 led up to July eighteen to twenty twenty two, I 194 00:11:10.720 --> 00:11:19.000 woke up paralyzed from about my nipples down, basically totally paralyzed. 195 00:11:20.919 --> 00:11:24.799 So I got rushed to the hospital in an ambulance 196 00:11:25.480 --> 00:11:29.840 and the you know, they did a bunch of different tests, 197 00:11:29.879 --> 00:11:31.759 and that the doctor had come in and asked me 198 00:11:31.799 --> 00:11:36.039 when I had fallen last, And I had fallen really 199 00:11:36.039 --> 00:11:40.440 bad off a roof. I was flashing a chimney. The 200 00:11:40.519 --> 00:11:44.039 ladder broke and I fell off the roof about four 201 00:11:44.120 --> 00:11:46.600 years earlier than that, and I got up and walked 202 00:11:46.639 --> 00:11:49.759 away from it. But apparently I had shattered two vertebrads 203 00:11:49.799 --> 00:11:52.159 in my back that I didn't know about, and through 204 00:11:52.200 --> 00:11:56.279 the drug use, I got an infection in those two 205 00:11:56.320 --> 00:12:00.399 shattered vertebrates and that infection caused it to inflame. A 206 00:12:00.440 --> 00:12:03.759 piece of one of the burtebrays punctured my epidural and 207 00:12:03.759 --> 00:12:08.600 that's what caused the paralysis. So anyway, I was in 208 00:12:08.600 --> 00:12:11.399 the hospital for two months, had two back surgeries. I 209 00:12:11.440 --> 00:12:17.679 was in six different hospitals, and that's when I kind 210 00:12:17.679 --> 00:12:21.159 of started, I guess, realizing things. I think I had 211 00:12:21.200 --> 00:12:25.240 odd twenty three times. And then this hospital thing happened. 212 00:12:25.240 --> 00:12:29.840 I had a stomach complication in there that almost killed me, 213 00:12:30.679 --> 00:12:33.720 you know, I've been shot at, stabbed, and I started 214 00:12:34.399 --> 00:12:37.000 kind of getting it, like, you know, I don't think 215 00:12:37.000 --> 00:12:39.080 I should be around. So I started questioning a lot more. 216 00:12:39.120 --> 00:12:40.519 And that's when I was in the hospitals, when I 217 00:12:40.559 --> 00:12:47.039 really started kind of digging more into stuff. I was 218 00:12:47.080 --> 00:12:50.360 in a wheelchair for a year and a half. You know, 219 00:12:50.559 --> 00:12:53.039 they told me they weren't sure if I was ever 220 00:12:53.080 --> 00:12:57.440 going to walk again. You know. One of the things 221 00:12:57.480 --> 00:13:02.240 that that I I saw in the hospital, and I 222 00:13:02.279 --> 00:13:04.679 was real kind of naive to all this stuff, I mean, 223 00:13:05.440 --> 00:13:08.120 ignorant to it. Where I mean, I mean there's people 224 00:13:08.120 --> 00:13:10.320 all the time that you know, they'll slip and fall, 225 00:13:10.360 --> 00:13:13.000 whack their head, quadriplegic, I mean all kinds of stuff 226 00:13:13.000 --> 00:13:14.679 like that, all kinds of gun shoppings in there. And 227 00:13:14.720 --> 00:13:18.080 I saw these people get bitter. They'd get bitter because 228 00:13:18.279 --> 00:13:22.200 I mean, your life's just turned upside down. And you know, 229 00:13:22.200 --> 00:13:25.000 I didn't want to get bitter. So I told, I 230 00:13:25.039 --> 00:13:26.519 told the Lord, said, look, I don't want to be 231 00:13:26.559 --> 00:13:33.679 bitter for two years. I'll go full throttle therapy all 232 00:13:33.759 --> 00:13:35.559 this stuff, and if I can't walk after two years, 233 00:13:35.600 --> 00:13:37.039 I'll accept it, but I don't want to be bitter. 234 00:13:37.879 --> 00:13:44.039 And anyway, so I got out of the hospital. I 235 00:13:44.080 --> 00:13:49.679 was still in the wheelchair obviously, and I'm gonna I'm 236 00:13:49.679 --> 00:13:52.320 gonna backtrack here, George and tell you kind of a 237 00:13:52.399 --> 00:13:58.519 story that ties in with this. I went years before this. 238 00:13:59.120 --> 00:14:02.559 I was going to one of the other times I 239 00:14:02.600 --> 00:14:04.159 was trying to get off drugs and I had a 240 00:14:04.159 --> 00:14:08.240 buddy and he was taking me to a Charismatic Catholic group, 241 00:14:08.679 --> 00:14:10.279 which I don't know if you're familiar with that, but 242 00:14:10.320 --> 00:14:14.360 they're part of the Catholic Church, but they're basically Catholic Pentecostals. 243 00:14:15.559 --> 00:14:18.840 They do a lot of prayer, tongues, all that stuff. 244 00:14:19.600 --> 00:14:21.320 And so he was taking me there and he was 245 00:14:21.360 --> 00:14:26.519 in charge. It's the Spanish group. Because of my mission 246 00:14:26.559 --> 00:14:29.480 and stuff, I speak Spanish. So I was going to 247 00:14:29.559 --> 00:14:32.720 Spanish group and there was a there is I think 248 00:14:32.799 --> 00:14:37.399 still there's a Catholic deacon named Larry o'ne. He's written 249 00:14:37.399 --> 00:14:39.679 a bunch of books and stuff. And this guy, Pablo, 250 00:14:39.720 --> 00:14:42.080 who was heading up the Spanish one, asked me, said, hey, 251 00:14:42.600 --> 00:14:44.519 I got to go talk to this deacon guy because 252 00:14:44.519 --> 00:14:46.879 he's he was in charge of like the state of 253 00:14:46.919 --> 00:14:51.039 the Charismatic groups, and he had to go over his 254 00:14:51.320 --> 00:14:52.960 calendar and all that kind of stuff. He said, will 255 00:14:52.960 --> 00:14:56.679 you come and translate for me? I said, yeah, to 256 00:14:57.679 --> 00:15:02.919 this guy's house, this Catholic deacon, and I'm there to translate. 257 00:15:02.960 --> 00:15:04.960 And he looks at me and he says, tell me 258 00:15:05.000 --> 00:15:07.320 about you. When I said, a couple of things, and 259 00:15:07.360 --> 00:15:09.600 you know, I'm on drugs and stuff at this time, 260 00:15:09.679 --> 00:15:12.879 and I mean, he started telling me stuff that he 261 00:15:12.879 --> 00:15:14.840 shouldn't have known about me. He knew, you know, my 262 00:15:14.919 --> 00:15:18.799 mom had died. Was talking about drugs and a bunch 263 00:15:18.840 --> 00:15:21.519 of stuff. It kind of blew me away. And one 264 00:15:21.559 --> 00:15:26.600 of the things he said is he said, you've had 265 00:15:27.240 --> 00:15:31.039 one foot in and one foot out for a long time, 266 00:15:31.639 --> 00:15:35.600 and Jesus wants your whole heart, not a piece of it. 267 00:15:35.679 --> 00:15:39.000 He wants the full thing. And I and, uh, you know, 268 00:15:39.120 --> 00:15:41.639 like I said something that always stuck with me even 269 00:15:41.639 --> 00:15:45.159 when through through the years after through drug drug addiction 270 00:15:45.240 --> 00:15:48.000 and stuff. When I so jumping back now, when I 271 00:15:48.000 --> 00:15:52.799 got out of the hospital and I got home, I 272 00:15:52.840 --> 00:15:54.879 was sitting on my bed, I had to like throw 273 00:15:54.919 --> 00:15:57.360 my you know, throw myself off with the wheelchair to 274 00:15:57.440 --> 00:16:02.720 the bed and I prayed to the Lord of something. 275 00:16:02.799 --> 00:16:06.360 I was always scared to do. And I did what 276 00:16:06.639 --> 00:16:08.960 the Catholic deacon told me to do, and I said, 277 00:16:09.000 --> 00:16:12.879 I'm giving you my whole heart. I'm all in full throttle. 278 00:16:13.519 --> 00:16:18.799 And it was pretty much immediate that the scales fell 279 00:16:18.840 --> 00:16:21.039 through my eyes. I could almost hear him hit the floor. 280 00:16:21.840 --> 00:16:27.840 And my interest changed, my desires changed, my goals changed everything. 281 00:16:29.919 --> 00:16:33.000 You know, I always hated reading. I started reading all 282 00:16:33.080 --> 00:16:37.519 kinds of stuff, so that was that, and that led 283 00:16:37.559 --> 00:16:44.360 me into a lot of the truth stuff, started questioning 284 00:16:44.399 --> 00:16:48.080 all things. And at that point I didn't know what 285 00:16:48.120 --> 00:16:49.559 to do. I'm like, well, maybe I need to go 286 00:16:49.639 --> 00:16:52.159 back to the Mormon Church. Maybe I need to go 287 00:16:52.200 --> 00:16:55.679 back to this. So I I hadn't gone to them. 288 00:16:55.720 --> 00:16:57.639 I hadn't set foot in the church, in the Mormon 289 00:16:57.720 --> 00:17:01.320 Church for probably fifteen years. So I started doing all 290 00:17:01.360 --> 00:17:04.160 the stuff that they tell you not to. They tell 291 00:17:04.200 --> 00:17:07.079 you don't look on the internet, don't you know, They'll 292 00:17:07.079 --> 00:17:10.319 tell you it's anti Mormon. These people are, you know, demons. 293 00:17:10.759 --> 00:17:12.480 And I started looking at all the stuff and I 294 00:17:12.599 --> 00:17:17.000 literally had, you know, like a three ring binder full 295 00:17:17.000 --> 00:17:22.119 of stuff, contradictions early early Mormon history, all kinds of 296 00:17:22.160 --> 00:17:27.720 stuff about polygamy, stuff that I didn't even know when 297 00:17:27.759 --> 00:17:32.599 I was Mormon. You know, there's a Joseph Smith supposedly 298 00:17:32.640 --> 00:17:35.599 translated the these Golden Plates, and I used to be 299 00:17:35.599 --> 00:17:37.599 taught it was this Erman thumbum thing, which is like 300 00:17:37.640 --> 00:17:39.400 these pair of glasses and this little thing that kind 301 00:17:39.400 --> 00:17:43.240 of looked like an old school square and compass. And 302 00:17:43.319 --> 00:17:45.240 come to find out it was a you know, he 303 00:17:45.319 --> 00:17:48.279 used the scene stone with the top hat, which I 304 00:17:48.319 --> 00:17:52.279 actually learned about on South Park. Funny enough to come 305 00:17:52.279 --> 00:17:53.920 to find out it was it was true. So I 306 00:17:53.960 --> 00:17:57.279 have this three ring binder full of stuff of all 307 00:17:57.279 --> 00:17:59.680 these contradictions and all these things, and I still in 308 00:17:59.720 --> 00:18:03.359 this gets into the programming, hadn't been there for fifteen years, 309 00:18:04.279 --> 00:18:07.319 just evidence out the wall zoo, and I still didn't 310 00:18:07.359 --> 00:18:09.920 want to accept it. I still couldn't accept it, and 311 00:18:09.920 --> 00:18:11.839 it was driving me so nuts. I'm like pacing at 312 00:18:11.839 --> 00:18:14.839 this point, I think I was walking. I'm pacing back 313 00:18:14.880 --> 00:18:21.079 and forth and just trying to figure it out. So 314 00:18:22.839 --> 00:18:27.400 I had heard a podcast and it was one of 315 00:18:27.440 --> 00:18:33.160 these people that had been through satanic ritual abuse, and 316 00:18:33.240 --> 00:18:38.920 they they tied it back to the Mormon Church and 317 00:18:38.960 --> 00:18:42.440 it was kind of like just a you know, just 318 00:18:42.440 --> 00:18:45.880 just a blow to the head, and I remember I 319 00:18:46.079 --> 00:18:51.079 looked up, you know, towards you know, the firmament, and 320 00:18:51.759 --> 00:18:55.640 I asked God. It wasn't no lengthy prayer. I said, 321 00:18:56.039 --> 00:18:58.359 I need to know if this is true or not. 322 00:18:59.440 --> 00:19:02.319 And I walked outside. George I sat on my porch, 323 00:19:03.440 --> 00:19:07.960 and he answered me in the weirdest way ever. Because 324 00:19:08.039 --> 00:19:11.039 the Mormon Church teaches everything is because of your feelings. 325 00:19:11.559 --> 00:19:14.480 So they teach a burning in your bosom, They'll teach you, 326 00:19:14.480 --> 00:19:16.000 we'll we'll pray about the Book of Morning. If you 327 00:19:16.039 --> 00:19:20.480 get a burning in your bosom, it's true. And which 328 00:19:20.599 --> 00:19:24.079 kind of goes exactly opposite of what you know the 329 00:19:24.079 --> 00:19:28.720 Bible says. It says men's hearts are deceitful, you know. 330 00:19:28.759 --> 00:19:32.000 It talk talks about hold, you know, study and hold 331 00:19:32.039 --> 00:19:36.319 to what is what is true. So I go outside, 332 00:19:36.440 --> 00:19:39.839 so I said a little prayer to God. I go outside, 333 00:19:40.079 --> 00:19:44.640 and it was the weirdest thing. It was like four 334 00:19:44.720 --> 00:19:48.680 squirrels came to my feet. There was three hummingbirds that 335 00:19:48.880 --> 00:19:50.359 landed on this I got one of I got those 336 00:19:50.400 --> 00:19:55.000 little kind of Christmas light things. Outside. There was a 337 00:19:55.000 --> 00:19:57.160 couple of cardinals, I mean, just right by me. All 338 00:19:57.200 --> 00:20:00.319 these animals came and it was so weird. It was 339 00:20:00.400 --> 00:20:02.599 obvious because I was so used to like this filling 340 00:20:02.640 --> 00:20:07.240 stuff and I just looked up. I said, okay, So 341 00:20:07.279 --> 00:20:09.279 that was my answer. Later that night, I opened the 342 00:20:09.279 --> 00:20:13.000 Bible and I opened to Job twelve. I think it's 343 00:20:13.039 --> 00:20:17.839 seven to ten where it talks about it says ask 344 00:20:17.920 --> 00:20:19.839 the animals and they will teach you. Ask the birds 345 00:20:19.839 --> 00:20:21.759 in the sky and they will teach you. So that 346 00:20:21.839 --> 00:20:27.119 was that was my answer. So and from there I've 347 00:20:27.200 --> 00:20:30.440 kind of just been sifting through the weeds trying to, 348 00:20:30.799 --> 00:20:32.759 you know, figure everything out the best I can. 349 00:20:33.359 --> 00:20:37.279 That's an incredible story and so many questions to ask. 350 00:20:37.319 --> 00:20:40.279 First and foremost is a week from today is the 351 00:20:40.319 --> 00:20:43.680 three year anniversary of that event happening. So it is 352 00:20:43.960 --> 00:20:47.119 what an incredible story, and you've come so far in 353 00:20:47.160 --> 00:20:49.920 a short period of time. Something I cover on my 354 00:20:50.039 --> 00:20:53.599 other podcast quite a bit is the Sackler family. I've 355 00:20:53.599 --> 00:20:56.359 done a few standalone podcasts, and obviously you being in 356 00:20:56.400 --> 00:20:59.799 the rabbit holes, I'm sure and with everything that you've experienced, 357 00:20:59.799 --> 00:21:01.799 you've taking the time and going down some of these 358 00:21:01.880 --> 00:21:04.480 rabbit holes and it just blows my minds that that 359 00:21:04.559 --> 00:21:07.799 these wealthy families like the Sacklers are able to just 360 00:21:07.880 --> 00:21:11.160 settle with these state attorney generals and to wash their 361 00:21:11.160 --> 00:21:14.720 hands of all the damage they have done. But I 362 00:21:15.079 --> 00:21:17.200 know that it's more than that. It's more than money. 363 00:21:17.559 --> 00:21:20.160 It is like you mentioned, it's a spiritual battle. And 364 00:21:20.799 --> 00:21:25.279 you know these opioids. You know, sadly your story is 365 00:21:25.319 --> 00:21:29.480 one of a million, and unfortunately not all of them 366 00:21:29.480 --> 00:21:31.799 turn out the incredible way that yours did. 367 00:21:33.559 --> 00:21:36.200 That's right, George. One of the things that happened to 368 00:21:36.200 --> 00:21:40.200 me is I kind of wanted to get a little 369 00:21:40.240 --> 00:21:45.480 bit of the spiritual side of addiction. I so kind 370 00:21:45.480 --> 00:21:48.880 of jumping forward. Some of the things I've done for 371 00:21:49.599 --> 00:21:53.960 after after my my back stuff and my my paralysis 372 00:21:54.519 --> 00:21:56.440 is I've been I switched. 373 00:21:56.519 --> 00:21:56.920 I know you have. 374 00:21:57.000 --> 00:21:59.039 You've had a couple of guests on your show. I 375 00:21:59.119 --> 00:22:01.359 switched to a carnal or diet. I've been doing that 376 00:22:01.400 --> 00:22:06.480 for January, will be three years. Anyway, I tell you 377 00:22:06.559 --> 00:22:09.640 that I twenty four hour fast every day. I don't cheat. 378 00:22:10.720 --> 00:22:16.039 I tell you that because I have I have self discipline. 379 00:22:16.160 --> 00:22:18.839 I I get up at four every day, I go 380 00:22:18.880 --> 00:22:21.839 to the gym. And the reason I'm telling you is 381 00:22:21.880 --> 00:22:23.240 not the brag I want to. I want to go 382 00:22:23.319 --> 00:22:26.119 back and tell you I have a lot of self discipline, 383 00:22:26.160 --> 00:22:29.720 but I could not get off drugs. I couldn't. I 384 00:22:29.720 --> 00:22:35.680 couldn't do it with with my own power. However tough 385 00:22:35.720 --> 00:22:37.640 I was, or how much discipline I had, could not 386 00:22:37.759 --> 00:22:42.240 do it. And it was until I gave my life 387 00:22:42.279 --> 00:22:44.839 to Jesus that he blew that demon of addiction out 388 00:22:44.839 --> 00:22:48.920 of me. And then it was it was just a 389 00:22:48.960 --> 00:22:51.079 fight with the flesh, which, to be honest with you, 390 00:22:51.160 --> 00:22:53.920 isn't that big of a deal. It's it's it's not 391 00:22:54.039 --> 00:22:58.920 that hard. You know. Scripture says that you know your 392 00:22:59.000 --> 00:23:01.559 new creation, the oldest old to new is new. I'll 393 00:23:01.599 --> 00:23:04.000 take out your heart of stone and give you a 394 00:23:04.000 --> 00:23:07.039 heart of flesh. So it really seems like a past, 395 00:23:07.359 --> 00:23:13.960 a past life. But I think there's a lot and 396 00:23:14.160 --> 00:23:16.720 this is this is all stuff. So I asked, So 397 00:23:16.799 --> 00:23:18.920 I asked God. I said, you know, I was asking, like, 398 00:23:18.920 --> 00:23:22.640 why why could I never get off drugs? I mean, 399 00:23:22.680 --> 00:23:27.640 I just couldn't get off of them? And he said 400 00:23:27.680 --> 00:23:30.799 to me, he said, well, look into demonology. And this 401 00:23:30.880 --> 00:23:32.960