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It is time to talk about stats. I want to
talk about NFL combines. That's how many players from buy
you got the invite to the NFL combine and in
which of these players on Boy's roster that are taking
their tents to the NFL. Maybe deserved it an NFL
combined invite. Also Big twelve team invites. How many from
each team got invites? We'll discuss that here in this segment.
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discuss this two invites from Brigham Young University. Jack Zach Kelly,
highly talented, highly productive college football player. Originally Weaver State
and transferred to by You balled out for Brigham the
last two years, fought through injuries and still made a
lot of Hay second quarterbacks, getting Italian TFLs and just
making plays all over the football field. His closing speed
very very impressive, most impressive, and so there's no doubt
Jack Kelly deserved an invite. Okay, he was also one
of two players that got the invite to the Senior Bowl.
Many times the Senior Bowl invite is indicative of an
NFL Combine invite. Not always, but many times that is
the case. Now, I don't think Chase Roberts got an
invite to the Senior Bowl, the Panini Senior Bowl. He
did get invited to the second tier, which is East
West Shrine Bowl, and he showcased his talents well there.
But I found it interesting, you know, Chase Roberts obviously
got Chase Robs probably one of the most productive players
coming out of BYU in his career. He had a
great career at BYU. He's got the height, he's got
the way. He's a big body receiver that can do
a lot of damage as an outside receiver or an
inside receiver. In my opinion over his career, one hundred
and seventy receptions two thousand five or eighty six yards
fifteen point two yards per reception, eighteen touchdowns and he
and he had eleven rushes for thirty six yards. I
forgot about that. He toted the rock on occasion and
just an overall great football player. So he got the invite,
and I think, I hope, I hope he tests out
well and turned some heads there at the NFL Combine. Now,
the biggest surprise, the biggest snup to me was actually
Will Farren. Now here's a caveat here. They only invite
six specialists. They invited four punters and three place kickers.
Will Farron can do both, but he's obviously a placekicker.
Got a massive leg, big leg, and you know, you
can say, you can make an argument that Will wasn't
as a effective as efficient in his senior year as
he was in his junior year, right, And that's statistically accurate.
In twenty twenty three, he was eleven of fourteen. Okay,
he was one of one between the twenty to twenty
nine yard range. He was four four, thirty to thirty nine,
six of seven and forty to forty nine and then
zero for two and fifty plus long long field goals.
Twenty twenty four was an elite year for him, though,
twenty four to twenty seven made field goals eighty eight
point nine percent efficiency. He was eleven of twelve from
thirty to thirty nine he was forty. He was six
of seven from forty through forty nine, and then he
was four or five and fifty plus yarders. This season
he was twenty three of thirty seventy six point seven,
so his worst percentage of his career. He was eleven
to eleven from twenty to twenty nine yards. He was
six of six of perfect from thirty to thirty nine,
So within forty he was perfect. Essentially, I guess well
under thirty nine, where he missed the most was actually
from forty to forty nine yards he was two of seven,
the worst in his career. Fifty plus he was actually
pretty gosh daan accurate. He was four to six from
fifty yards plus, which is tremendous. Where he lacked was
that forty to forty nine yard range for whatever reason.
Total points tallied in his career two hundred ninety six.
He is one of the best in BYU football history.
Shout out to Wilfare in the six Foo three hundred
and seventy five Powder out of Kaysville, Utah, the Boise
State transfer. You can make an argument that this man
got snubbed from the NFL Combine because guys that didn't
get invited to the Senior Bowl got an invite to
the Combine. Tommy Tommy Doman Junior, Florida, Ryan Eckley, Michigan State,
Tray Smack, Florida. Drew Stevens, Iowa. He Drew was at
the Senior Bowl. Jack Stonehouse, Syracuse, Brett Thorson, Georgia, Dominique Zavada, Michigan.
So I think you can make an argument that Will
deserved an invite to the Combine did not get it,
and it's unfortunate. I'm a little bit ticked. I'm a
little bit t oed, if you will. I thought Will
got a little bit shorter considering the body of work
that he's produced at Brigham Young University. Career eighty one
point seven percent field goal kicker and fantastic. Obviously I'm
Pats too. I don't know if he's ever missed a
pat quite honestly, and really good football player, really good
field goal kicker, anybody else that got snubbed here? And Ronnie,
I know you're pretty te oed about this as well,
regarding will Fair number will Fair number forty four on
the football field, number one in our hearts more often.
Speaker 3: Than not one hundred percent.
Speaker 4: And you just listed to stats there didn't miss a
pat from what I have gathered him from my stats
going back at least his time at BYU is unfortunate
being because the guy that kicks eighty two percent of
his career, even with maybe a down year as you
call it, you wouldn't you would not think that a
guy wouldn't have especially after getting a Senior Bowl invite. Look,
he's still gonna be kicking out on Sundays. Someone's gonna
take me. Still gonna make a name for himself. But
a shame on the NFL combine for not putting him
as one of the six specialists. Another guy, Ben I
think that you could is look a big Isaiah Jada.
I mean, you know this is another guy like you know, uh,
you know kayle bt In Tree.
Speaker 3: I think Isaiah Jada is a guy.
Speaker 4: When Isaiah was at his best been he was a
top level tackle in this conference and it's really hard
to beat that. And I think a lot of by
US production when you saw LJ. Martin, you know, and
in the run game where you saw Baart Lee block
it was sometimes you know, not just Andrew Gentry, but
Isaiah Jatda. He had you know, that blindside and making
sure that you know, Bar didn't get killed obviously, and
he did a great job. That's another guy I think
that could could have an argument.
Speaker 3: That's played.
Speaker 4: You know, they did it at a high level of
the P four level with b YU against you know,
the Colorado's, the Arizona's, the Texas Tech.
Speaker 3: So that's another guy you could potentially make an argument for.
Speaker 4: But those are probably my four is is Jack, Chase
Will and then Isaiah That's probably what I would I
would go with maybe another guy who has a good
resume and he might be a good undrafted free agent.
I think whaling Lap who's gonna end up on the roster.
Whaling's really good, been at the guard position. When Whaland's healthy,
he's as good as he gets. And you saw where
Bou was maybe missing him a little bit, and when
you saw him in the lineup, he saw how the
run game definitely changed for sure.
Speaker 3: So for those of the guys I'm probably.
Speaker 1: Going with, Yeah, some people are a little bit Bantetner
shape that Carson Ryan didn't get a look. The six
foot four, two hundred and fifty pounds Rechert senior out
of or Utah, American Fork Utah, an individual that played
a lot of football at the P four level u
c l A Utah, And of course Brigham Young. He
had his best season of his career at BYU this
past year and was the highest rated, highest graded pro
football focused tight end in college football. So some people
are gonna have a little bit of weeping whaling and
national teeth Reguard and Carson Ryan, and that's uh that
that's an argument that I think that could be made.
Career wise, I think he was really good. Seventy four
cent ony, twenty yards, thirteen point eight yards per reception,
seven touchdowns, you know, really good. Maybe that maybe that's
a little bit of stretch, but he was good. He
was a good tight end and one of the best
blocking tight ends I think in college football as well.
That's why his PFF grade was so high because he
would engage, he would lock in, and he would drive
defensive ends and linebackers off the line of scrimmage. Okay,
and he would get to the second level be very
bounced when you sletched out. He was really good at
taking on any nickel guys do. He's pretty flee to foot,
pretty agile to quick and staying in front of some
of those quicker more difficult to block defensive back. So
Carson Ryan, I think you make an argument for him
to get an invite. Garrison Grimes, remember got an invite
I think to the East West Rand Ball. As a
long snapper. You can maybe say, hey, you know he deserved,
but I don't think deep snappers typically get the invite.
If I'm not mistaking how many how many deep snappers
actually got an invite to the Compine.
Speaker 4: Former BYU you know, long deep snapper Austin Riggs got
one to you know, go when he transferred to Rugords.
So maybe some do. Maybe it's like the specialist, but
that's a good question. The question being I have for
you is do you think if Carson would have had
back to back seasons? And maybe it's a production thing, right,
I don't know how he would test not knowledgeable in
that department, but maybe you could shed some light if
he had this season that he had with bou if
he would have done that prior with Utah or if
he had another year with the BYU, does he get
an invited to my question, So I'm looking at the numbers.
Speaker 1: The two type of players that get invited to that
get invited to the NFL combine, in my opinion, are
individuals that have elite upside, elite tangibles, elite athleticism, or
they have pure just ridiculous volume. Right, You're just they're
so flimitous in your stats, like they have to bring
in because you're just an elite football Remember this is
the this is this is the one percent that make
it to the NFL. Okay, this is the one percent.
So the invites you're you're talking about the best of
the best in volume, but you know you're also the
best of the best in in in the tangibles and athleticism.
So I think Corson Reyman is used as a good
football player. He's an undrafted free agent type. He could
be a late round pick as well because of his
blocking ability and his ability to run good routes, great
separation in tight spaces. But he's gonna have to earn everything.
He's gonna have to earn everything, in my opinion, and
that's just the way it is, you know who low
key would be an interesting like. I don't think his
volume was there, I don't think his his tangibles are there,
but was a great college football player Logan Litwo. He's
an interesting study. He's had some injury issues as well,
but yeah, you know, yeah, I guess you can. You're
not gonna necessarily see him get that that invite, but
really good football player. Nonetheless, another guy that I think
is gonna make it in the NFL, just not didn't
get that invite. Moriy Bomba I think is gonna make
it in the NFL. I really believe that. I think
Tanner Wall is gonna get a shot as well as
an undirect free agent. He's to test out really well.
Morey's going to blow everybody away with his testing ability
in my opinion. But as far as the biggest gripes
that you're having right now that didn't get the invite
to the NFL combine, it's it's probably Will Farren and
probably Carson Bryan. Those are the two guys that you're
gonna complain the most about. But check this out and
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Texas Tech. Okay, let's go over the number of players
in with the NFL combine for each Big twelve team,
if you will. Texas Tech, no surprise here eight eight
of them. Really good football team. Obviously a college football
playoff football team. Very impressive. Most impressive TCU with five,
Utah with five, Arizona State with four, Baylor with four,
Cincinnati with four, Arizona with three, Kansas with three, b
YU with two, Houston with two, Kansas State with two,
UCF with two, Iowa State with one, Colorado zero, Oklahoma
State zero, West Virginia zero. What conclusions can be drawn
from the stats? Ronald the three man Weaver.
Speaker 4: I think, look, I mean the top two teams that
went to the Big twelve Conference Championship.
Speaker 3: Game been you know, have you know the most invites?
Speaker 4: I mean, look, I don't want to go and say
pay for players, because everybody's paying. But when you pay
for talent and the talent produces, I think it correlates. Right,
you have to look at it in that regard relating
to wins, and because coaches can put players in positions,
but players have to make plays. But that that's not
a coincidence. Bent it's not an anomaly. I mean, that's
gonna keep happening the more you got have. Look just
look at Boy's roster right now that's coming back in
the junior and seniors. How many invites are on this
future twenty twenty six twenty seven BIOIU football team.
Speaker 3: Then LJ.
Speaker 4: Martin, if he has a good season count of Tonavasa.
You know you're thinking Fala Tasa tula if he decides
to go. Evan Johnson like, there's a lot of people
who are gonna have invites, And I think that's how
you look at it when you correlate.
Speaker 3: So no surprise with Texas deck and then you know
by you and others.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I think you can. You got Keanu Obviouslyvan Johnson.
You could say Isaiah Glasker could have done it as well.
Speaker 3: Zach Glaska.
Speaker 1: You know what I mean, there's there, you know, because
you have some tangibles there, there's there's gonna be h
a slew of invites this next year. You can make
an argument that the senior class not as strong as
the junior class that BYU yes will will eventually put
out after this season, which boats well I think for
BYU from a productivity standpoint. This year wins lost standpoint,
and you expect to a certain degree another double digit
win season from b YU if they can find some
depth at certain key positions RB two, QB two, maybe
along the offensive line. If these transfers are as advertised,
but the defense is pretty stacked, I'd say the defense
is very, very stacked. They're they're a brick house right now.
They are stacked top to bottom. And they have some
good depth as well. I don't know if there's really
any depth issues outside of the cornerback room at BYU,
but you have some up and comers that could fill
a big role. But one thing I will say about
the only the two invites from BUU, I still wholeheartedly
believe that BYU is a developmental program that that that
maximizes the talent and the clay that they receive right
they they they produce high level football teams and high
level football players that aren't always viewed as the premier
NFL talents. I mean, I can go through the list.
Danny Sorenson was a fantastic football player. He got the
invite to the Combine and did really well, and he
still was an undrafted free agent. He set a record
in the three code at the NFL Combine and still
was an undrafted free agent. You know what I mean, Like,
it's it's crazy to me that that happened. And maybe
it's because of his age, maybe because he served the mission, whatever,
but he went to the combine and impressed and killed
it and he was highly productive at you and still
was relegated undrafted free agency. So there's a component to
this that I think is very intriguing. I think NFL
gms know they can let they don't have to invite
Okay in the NFL and gener they don't have to
invite Bay. You guys so much bang for your buck
with a b YU guy. Look at Pooka who got
I mean in his draft class, the for what you
paid for him and the position at which you drafted him.
There wasn't a better pick in the NFL draft that's
that year. And you could make similar arguments in seasons
past to certain football players. I mean, Austin Cawley was
a great value pick for the Indneapolis Colts, a mid
round pick that by his sophomore season was leading the
league in receptions, yards, and touchdowns. He was on his
way to having an elite season before it was derailed
by concussions Okay, and some injuries derailed it. So there's
there's been plenty of value picks over the year. For
how about Kiris Tonga seventh round pick played a significant
role for the New England Patriots and their and their
their foray into this suit Super Bowl this year, so
like you can go down the list, like Harvey Longer
was in the league for a long time. Okay, I
didn't get drafted underdrafted free agent. He was one of
the most high priority undrafted free agents. I think he
got paid the most in his bonus structure in the
undrafted free agent market coming out of his draft class.
Harvey Longe, a converted running back to linebacker at b YU,
hadn't played in really a ton of football. So I
don't know there's something there that I would say the
NFL values b YU guys, but they always know that
they can get him on the cheap. Does that make sense?
They can get them for the bargain. Brigham Young Price.
Speaker 4: R Ryan Rico, I mean, look Ryan Ryan, Yeah, Ry Rico.
I mean that's the prime example. One of the best punters,
guy that went undrafted. And look, I mean still punting
up there. I mean he's been to be one of
the best. I mean right there, absolutely the production.
Speaker 3: You're not wrong then even Tyler Algier Tyler, and he's
gonna be a free agent. We'll see a free.
Speaker 1: Yeah, we'll see how much. Yeah, it's like you want Kevin.
I keep on saying Kevin k v n H took
to Twitter recently and and gave a big shout out.
Actually the tyler owse.
Speaker 3: You yes he did, telling him Denver's the place.
Speaker 1: Denver's the place he can be an rb uh rb
one there alongside kind of the thunder and lightning with
uh Harvey r J Harvey, who's a little bit undersized.
Uh and uh you know, more more of a scat back,
not in every downback per somes so for some people. Right.
So anyway, Uh, look, you get you get your r
o I with the b YU Cougar football player, is
what I'm saying. Obviously k v n was a second
round pick. Uh and uh he's he's played a long time,
long healthy career. You got your r o Y with him.
But you get a lot of value picks in my opinion,
with these b y U guys. So you know, but
I also say, you look at all the wins that
Bway's producing with supposed inferior talent. Remember we talked a
lot about two four seven's composite talent ranking for Bowie's
roster this last season seventieth seventieth in college football. Yet
they went twelve and two, knocking on the door of
a CFP Earth. Okay, So there's something to it, and
I think it's actually a good thing when all things
are said and done, because guys are still making in
the NFL, making it into the NFL and having success
in the NFL, and they're sticking in the NFL's a
Anderson undrafted free agent and continually he's continually found a
way to stay on the football field. Okay. I was
getting hated on by Utah fans for years because I
said Zane Anderson would start at Utah and you know,
was just as good or better than Chase Hansen and
would have a longer NFL career. With Chase Hanson, Everyone's like,
you don't know ball, You're not a ball noer. I
was right. I was right. Now, we don't know if
you would have started at you though. That was just
that was more of a hot take about the current situation,
and that's okay. But Zaye has had a longer, more
lustrous and a better career NFL career than Chase. And
I'm not trying to knock Chase Anderss a phenomenal football player.
Wish he would have been a b YU Cougar for
the love of all that's holly. He would have been
fantastic at b YU and and uh, but but still
like the take that to take it. Jaron Hall I
said was going to be a NFL draftic, Zach Wilson
was going to be a NFL draft pick. I said,
Keaton slove Is was going to be in the league.
Kay I didn't say he'd be a draft PI, but
he'd be a high priority on driver free agent. He's
stick in the league because he's an NFL talent, and
lobehold he's still in the league. So I know NFL
talent when I see it. I know NFL talent when
I see it, and I think the the NFL also
knows NFL talent when they see it. And that's why.
Remember Keen Slove's got the invite to the NFL Combine.
He went to he'sa a shrineball, then got invites at
the combine and showcased that big ol'd army ran a
leading the fleet of foot, just a blazing fast for
a quarterback of your size, forty times a laser. It
was beautiful, it was grant it was marvelous. By you
continue to produce high level football players and putting them
in the league and keeping them in the league. Guys,
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get into a few reading between the line segments here
a few sound bites, as you will, if you will,
is Darren Peterson's availability right now, mister D and P
a big issue for Kansas. Bruce Pearl chiming in on
this legendary coach. This is what he had to say
about D and P.
Speaker 3: With him, they're really good without him.
Speaker 5: You know the differences. He doesn't have a ball in
his hands when he's not playing out this and the
other guys that got to do more.
Speaker 1: I don't think.
Speaker 5: This is going to affect his draft stock because I
think everybody that I talked to in the league he
still looks like the number one guy.
Speaker 3: But if I was coaching in the NBA.
Speaker 5: I'm sorry, I would have some concern missing eleven out
of twenty four games for hamstrings and cord polls and illness,
just a long list of different things. My job is
to coach a team. My job is to win championship.
General manager gotta make another decision, I'd be I would
be a little concerned about you know, just how tough
he is.
Speaker 6: You know, it's a very interesting thing when you talk
about health. That's something that you can prepare for a season,
but you don't know when an injury is coming. Guy
once said to me, you only have so many jumps
in your body. You don't know when the last one
is going to be. And for a kid like Darren Peterson,
I'm not necessarily concerned.
Speaker 1: I'd rather have him on the court and.
Speaker 6: Let him adjust to his body and what he can
actually do. He's a premier talent. At the end of
the day, when he's on the court, he can He's
probably the best on the court at any particular moment.
Speaker 1: I'm not really concerned about him.
Speaker 6: One thing that I've learned in watching Kansas play is
when he's out of the lineup, they've all gotten better.
And when he's inserted. Yeah, when he's inserted, they know
how to play around that as well. They play much
more in jailing those. It's much more of an NBA
pro style where you can insert people in and out
and it doesn't affect performance. So I like him in
the lineup.
Speaker 1: I don't think it's.
Speaker 6: Necessarily because his body breaks down that it's a toughness issue.
I think it's a soft tissue issue, and I think
it's cautionary on his side as well.
Speaker 7: Right, but mash if he has a soft tissue issue,
playing collegiate collegiate schedule, not getting to the NBA, play
two times more games in the backcourt, going against some
of the fastest people in the world and needing to
defend and fight through screens and stuff like that, I
feel like it will affect his draft stop because he's
still a terrific poor performer, and you use the perfect
word premiere, like he's a premierest player. But there are
certain players, unfortunately, there are injury prom But you.
Speaker 6: Also think about it like this, the Wars. Now in
the NBA, you got to play sixty five games. There's
a reason for that.
Speaker 8: They talk about his future.
Speaker 3: I'm curious if he's gonna lay March madness because the
future Kyrie played seventh.
Speaker 8: Well, I'm not gonna, but I want to see him
in March.
Speaker 1: All right. Look, I I've said this time and time again,
your best abilities, your availability. I do think there is
a certain amount of like uh of of you know,
just productivity that you expect from a first round first
overall pick and sitting out as many games as Darren
Peterson has for whether it's it's contrived, whether it's real
or fictitious, I don't know. But the sighted issues are cramping,
quad strains, hamstring, ankle rolls, flu I mean you name it,
the sniffles. I mean, look, there's there's always something wrong
with d M P and so like it should take
his stock, it should reduce his stock. The problem is this,
and Bruce powl Pearl brings it up. There are gms
that are tasked in acquiring talent, evaluating talent, and their
administrative staff, right, and they're they're scouting staff, and they
answer to the ownership. Right, they answer to the ownership.
There's no doubt about it. It's the coach's job to
coach them, right. Whatever the GM and the and the
ownership wants to bring in. So there has been since
the the the inception of the of the of the
current m b a uh I guess operational organizations, you
know how they operate on the daily, on the year
lead right. There has been enmity at times between coaches
and gms and even scouts one hundred percent. They don't
like the culture fits, they don't like the personality fits,
they don't like the skill set fits. But they are
tasked as coaches to make it work. And that's the problem.
That's the problem. You very well could go out and
get Darren. He could be a number one overall pick
because the GM wants him and they don't want to
miss out on a premier talent, one of the most
polished scores they ever come out of the collegiate ranks.
And the coach is like, this kid doesn't like basketball.
This kid doesn't like to play basketball, doesn't like the
competing basketball. He just wants to make money and then
go do with the money whatever he wants to do.
He's not about to create a legacy, doesn't want to
create a legacy. He doesn't want to create a championship run.
He's in it through the transaction. That's it. He will
be a load managing Kawhi Leonard from the get go,
and and he's just not upbout into building a championship squad.
And that's unfortunate. In the name of entertainment, maybe it happens,
but in the name of the request for a championship,
it probably shouldn't happen. They should be his stock should drop.
Maybe it's dropping for some for some pure organizations that
are out winning. For others they're like, hey, this is uh,
this is too good to pass up off. We got
to take dnp Ronald your thoughts.
Speaker 4: Yeah, this is interesting and we're gonna ask you. I'm
gonna ask this question to Chancellor Johnson, you know been
he's a Big twelve analyst and a consecrator. He's over there, like,
what what are his thoughts on this? Like, if you
are a a organization, this guy's have an injury issues.
You see what happened with Kawhi Leonard. Yes, Kawhi will
go down. You know it's a great but you're talking
about years. You're trying to win multiple championships. You're trying
to have a guy that could do the lebron and
Steph Curry. You want to You want teams like that,
You want guys to play. You don't want to pay
a guy to sit out, no matter how good he is,
especially with this league draft guys could have guy like
AJ passed him up because he is playing in showcase
and that I think he can. But I mean, look,
you just heard what he and that's the conflict, right,
that's the issue going on with maybe the Utah Jazz
and head coach and you know, ownership and other things
like okay, so what's the issue and basketball operations. All
of those guys, you know, have to be on the
same page, and sometimes they are. And I look, from
my standpoint as not even a fan of the game,
if I'm in that position of what Bruce Pearl said
as a coach, I don't like that. I need my
player to be available. You know why been because guess what,
you know what happens at the end of the day.
You know this the GM or the owners and that
they're gonna fire me. They're gonna fire me if they were.
That guy's gonna cash a paycheck. And this happens even
in the NFL. But less that guy's gonna cash a
paycheck and still make fifty million a year and I'm
gonna be out of a job because he won't play
like And I just think to protect the coaches, to
protect your organization, the general manager.
Speaker 3: The director of basketball operations, don't do that. Don't not.
I'm not saying pass on the guy.
Speaker 4: He's still a top three pick, but what I'm saying
is just be mindful of that because you're gonna call
someone their job and I'm just not in the business
of doing that. And I think Bruce Pearl brings up
a great point. If this continues, even at the next level.
Speaker 3: I'm serious.
Speaker 4: I'm saying it right now, and again it might not right,
we don't know. But if he's sitting out in NBA games,
if that becomes the norm, there's going to be some
general manager, some uh, you know, person in ownership, some
coach is going to lose their job because of the
team that Darren Peterson happens to be on.
Speaker 1: Let's get into Gary Parrish's thoughts on this. There's just
been a lot of unusual things connected to him. This
is what he had to say about Darren Peterson's DNP situation.
Speaker 8: That was big time on Monday night at Allen Field House.
We really had just a run over the past few days.
Friday night, yukon Saint John's a tremendous Saturday. We paused
on Sunday to watch a little football, but then on
Monday we get right back to it. The story is
obviously Darren Peterson. You saw Bill self all the joy
excitement postgame. I've seen him win final four games and
not showed that kind of emotion, so you know this
was a big deal, and to be able to do
it without the presumed number one pick in the draft
makes it even more so. As for what it actually means,
it's just unusual. I can't sit on television and criticize
a young man for not playing, but there's been a
lot of unusual things connected to him and not trying
to play through when we watch other players do it,
not trying to play through flu like symptoms when we
watch other players do it. Obviously, he was a late
scratch in that game, which brings about a ton of
more questions. But hopefully this is the last time we
talk about Darren Peterson missing a game and everything going
forward is about him being on the court.
Speaker 1: Is this the last game that Darren Peterson's going to
sit out this season? Do you think not anymore?
Speaker 3: No more?
Speaker 1: Does you sit out?
Speaker 4: I mean it's a very good question. I mean, when
you look at it and it seems like he just
wants the premiere match up. Look, Ben, let's call it
what it is. Whether I mean, I.
Speaker 1: Like, he had an opportunity for a premiure match he
set up to the UVE game.
Speaker 3: He did.
Speaker 4: But I just, I mean, they say he's sick. I
can't say if a player is not sick. I just
but Kyle Collinsworth puts something on on Twitter that I
agree with. When you're sick, Ben, when you've been bed ridden, right,
when you're sick, in general, either you play through it
or you see, like when AJ was sick, he visibly
looked sick. This guy's doing toe tutches and looks fine
and then there's conversation. It just looks sketchy, Ben, That's
what it looks like. It looks questionable, and you don't
like questionable behavior, Like, Okay, you're sitting out against Arizona.
Speaker 3: Is it because you might get locked up and you
didn't play well?
Speaker 4: Like, yeah, they won a Texas Tech game and he
hit the last two shots, but he didn't play necessarily
the best same with Utah is that Watson I have
back to back back games.
Speaker 3: It seems like he's.
Speaker 4: Just trying to make sure he can show up for
one good game during the week. And this is just
how it looks. I don't know. I'm not in the camp.
I don't want that to be the case, but with
the way it looks, it does. Like, Okay, so you
beat number five Iowa State on the road, but you
didn't want to play against number one ares I just
I don't know what it is, but I don't think
so like, Okay, so you play Iowa State, you win that,
you don't play against Oklahoma State on the road, but
then you play since the NATI and what do you
not play the entire next week? But then you play
against number three Houston, Like I just I don't get
what it is. But to me, it's like, regardless of
whether it's a premier matchup or whether it's not a
premier matchup, there's always something and that's concerning, Like there's
no doubt in my mind you should be playing in
the rest of these games the rest of the season
because they all matter and you have to I mean,
and then what are you gonna do with March madis
is if we don't know what it is, but is
he not gonna play in the round of thirty four
and thirty two and then play in the six, lead
eight and the final fourth that would be the case. It
just it looks it looks question Marcus, because players, like
Gary Peiris said, we saw aj play through the flu.
We saw players try to stretch, get on the bike
and do stuff. I mean, old Jake Kuttler, who is
terrible for the Chicago Bears, pulled a growing bend is
on the bike and they're having to stop him from
going back in the NFC Championship game. And I bring
it up as a Bears fan, you know, and the
Chicagos Anyway, My point is is just weird. I haven't
seen this before from a college player. I've seen it
from the NBA guys, but it's weird, and I think
he sits out more games. Dance to your point, like
I could see him not playing next week against Oklahoma
State and and Cincinnati, but will have to wait until
that point.
Speaker 1: Yeah, he's gonna sit out at least two more games.
Make great, George, at least two more games?
Speaker 4: Can I be honest, you want to talk about awards
Like look, Brett and I talked about this this morning,
and you know we all joke and pull fun of Lebron.
He's not eligible for all NBA awards and MVP because
he sat out too many games. This is gonna be
the problem that that premiere of a talent is going
to miss out on max contracts money if this keeps up.
And I'm grateful for Adam Silver. You're not punishing players,
and it sucks when you're actually, you know, injured. But
if there's some skeptical sism, like if you don't like
have a legit injury, oh I'm hurt. Everybody's hurt. Ben,
So I hate to go on that tangent, but he's
not gonna be eligible for awards like this goes further
like he's not gonna be Big twelve Newcomer of the Year.
He should not be. He should not even be in
the conversation. He does not qualify for it. It should
be aging and others, Kingston Fleming. He should not be
a part of this conversation. And if he wins the award, Ben,
I'm going to be livid, like I mean, and I'm
bringing up a valid point. Should he even be eligible
enough to be, you know, an all Big twelve like
conference member, not because of his talent.
Speaker 3: We're not talking about that.
Speaker 4: We're talking about playing on the court and how many
games that he's played, and like he might not be
eligible for that if he keeps sitting out games. And
I think the Big twelve should do the fans and
do people of service, because that's not fair to Kingston
Fleming who's played. That's not fair to you know, Tam
and Lipsey, Aja de Bonds, is not fair to the
Richie Saunders, the guys that are out there and then
you get put on but you're not there for half
the games.
Speaker 3: I don't agree with that.
Speaker 1: Chancellor Johnson, Big twelve analyst caught up with Aj Debonson. Now,
in my opinion, if you want to win a championship
in the NBA, and I take Aj overall number one.
I've said that consistently. Why Because first one, he's a dog,
he's a competitor. He's going to continue to work, he's
going to put in the lonely hours in the gym
via Jim Ratt, He's gonna get better and then he's
gonna make others better, as we saw seven assists versus Baylor. Okay,
he's not all about just getting shots for himself. He's
always looking to playmake. He wants to make others better,
he said in the post game. What did he say
is like I wanted to get Rob right, the third
involved early. He had his homecoming a little bit, you know,
he had his former school that he had to show
up and show out against and make the doubters into
believers and make the haters a little bit more silent.
I want to get my brother involved. He makes others
better around him. He's not about me, me me right.
So Chancellor Johnson caught up with him post game after
a four game slight buy. You needed a win. The
freshman star AJ delivered at a high rate. Let's get
into it. He's an interview with A J. Debonnsa's interview
with Chancell Johnson. Who's gonna be joining guys later on
at the show.
Speaker 9: With Aj Demasa After thirty six on the road versus Baylor,
after four straight games in a row that you guys
weren't able to get to win, column said, do it
on the road against it's out team like Baylor.
Speaker 10: How bad did you guys need this win?
Speaker 1: We needed it.
Speaker 11: We're five hundred. The goal was just to get above
five hundred, and this tough to one on the road,
especially at Baylor when we have Rob coming from Baylor,
so we know there's gonna be some noise, but we
just had to get a win.
Speaker 9: Speaking of Rob, a thirty ball from him from the
moment he was introduced to the crowd to the last
free throws for him where they were chouting Trader, where
he scored his twenty nine and thirtieth point.
Speaker 10: What did you like about his response in this game?
Speaker 11: I like that he was just calm. He wasn't trying
fourth Now he's effishing. I think he was over fifty
percent today and this is his response has been made three,
he's signed up the crowd enough. Felt good?
Speaker 10: Yeah, what was like for you watching the Rob right
the third show?
Speaker 11: I mean, I got fire real seats. I was just
I was just living just like y'all was. I mean,
I see them ultra aggressive. I mean I see him
practice every day, but y'all don't get to see it
as much.
Speaker 3: So I'm felt good.
Speaker 9: In order to get the win tonight, obviously, the team
was expecting you know a lot out of you, but
this is nothing new to you.
Speaker 10: How much do you embrace and enjoy being the go
to guy?
Speaker 11: I mean it's fun. Obviously it takes you know a
lot of responsibility. I take the hit for all the losses,
but you know I got the the press for all
the wins.
Speaker 9: I got a chance to see two nigga have a
moment with your dad. I know you guys have a relationship.
He had a big night as well. Watching him tonight
and competing against him. Just want help of talent is
too ni?
Speaker 11: Yes, a great time. And I mean I played against
I mean I played with him. McDonald's American played against him.
Speaker 1: Hoop summit.
Speaker 11: He's been the same, just super aggressive. He's shooting the
three ball way better now. He got a lot stronger,
super explosive.
Speaker 3: Just a great time.
Speaker 9: Last one for me. I'm gonna pull up this clip
here right and this was in the second half. I
want you to walk me through this when you get
the switch on the big here.
Speaker 10: What were you thinking?
Speaker 11: This attacked thorough?
Speaker 1: I think I was settling too much.
Speaker 11: I think the first time I got to strouted, my
shide of three built him out at them. The second
time I shot, they built him out. So my coach
are trying to tell me, like yo attacking and came
over to speak.
Speaker 10: So when you decide to not settle, you just decide
to tear the rim. Now, Is that how usual works?
Speaker 1: Yes?
Speaker 11: Either option one option too for sure, est ling Wi NJ.
Speaker 3: Thank you appreciate that.
Speaker 1: There go Chancell Johnson ketch up with AJ Debosa. Gotta
love yourself, some J debonds. Furthermore, AJ's favorite class a
b what you right now book a Mormon Baby? How
about that bomb dropping Bob's hon us in many ways,
dropping Bob's yaming it on occasion to go viral on
ESPN and social media, and dropping a few spiritual bobs
on us. Telling Miles Simon that his favorite class at
b YU is the Book of Mormon class and shout
out to his professor.
Speaker 4: Loves it because the diversity of people and you know
the nature that it talks about. Ben and look at
look and some people are like, oh, this is kind
of like look at think about that the number one
overall pick, not a member of the church, number one
recruit in high school, whatever you want to look at.
Is saying that his favorite class is the Book of
Mormon that he enjoys that. Come on, Ben, I mean, look,
I mean, come on, I mean, you're getting the best
of both worlds. You're getting it for the Book of
Mormon class, you're getting it on the court. And look,
he wants to help his teammates. But you hear the confidence,
Like you heard him, I take all the credit for
when we win, but I take the blows as well
with the loss.
Speaker 3: And he's okay with that. Right, That's what a superstar
is supposed to do, a leader.
Speaker 1: Right.
Speaker 4: He understands that I get the credit when we win,
but also know that I take the blame when we lose.
Speaker 3: Two and I love hearing AJ say that.
Speaker 4: Ben, Look, we got to enjoy it while the last
I mean, because there's gonna be many years where we're
gonna watch him at the next level. This is a
generational talent and player, Ben, And happy that we're able
to cover this because doesn't happen too often that you
get a chance to do this in your time as
a being a media member.
Speaker 1: No doubt about it. I do want to see if
I can find that SoundBite from Miles Simon in the
game and discuss a little bit more. But let's go
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We're gonna get into some of the sound bites from
the BU Baylor game. Miles Simon discussed his conversation with A. G. DEBONSA.
Now I always say kugarnation. If the only goal for
BYU Athletics is to win, we're doing it the wrong way.
It's not just it's not about winning championships. We want
to win. Of course, if you don't win, you know
you can become irrelevant pretty quickly, but it has to
have a foundational why behind we're playing sports. It's like
the the mantra, the adage of Brigham Young University. Enter
to learn, then go forth to serve. When you're a
student athlete of b YUH, it should also be an
enter to learn, go forth to serve with the you know,
surround yourself with greatness, Surround yourself with high level people
and that are doing high level things at all facets
and all elements of their life, and then go out
and make an impact in society, within your community, within
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discussing his conversation with as to Botson, AJ's favorite class
and favorite professor at BYU.
Speaker 3: We know that you know aj Box is such a
fascinating score.
Speaker 1: We know we know he's gonna be one and done.
Speaker 3: It's gonna be the first or second pick in the draft.
Speaker 4: But besides, you know the fact that you know the
Kevin Young, the NBA background.
Speaker 1: Reasons why he came to BYU. But he's actually I
talked to him last week at Okoma State and asked
him what he loved like off the court about his
college experience, and he said it's actually his favorite.
Speaker 10: Thing is a religion class called the Book of Gorman.
Speaker 3: He said it's for students of diverse face.
Speaker 1: And professor Tyler Griffin.
Speaker 10: He said that that has been his favorite class that
he's taken.
Speaker 1: He loves it.
Speaker 7: He loves to get it being on campus, getting to
know all the students from being around the student body
on a daily basis.
Speaker 2: So I found that really cool and great about about.
Speaker 3: The BONSA, just like his dedication.
Speaker 2: Also being in the classroom, I've been found.
Speaker 1: So that's going to surprise a lot of YOUTE fans
in particular, right, they're gonna AJ doesn't go to class.
AJ ain't going to class no way. Know how. He's
just getting paid. He's just getting He's just making dollar
dollar bills, y'all. He was just brought in for the
EYU circus. Ronnie. When you hear that, what's your thoughts,
your reaction?
Speaker 3: It's just people that just want their narrative to be right,
and that's just how it goes right. We have many
of those people in society. That's just not true.
Speaker 4: I went back and I visited actually BA you to
be able to talk back to some of the students
in the journalism program. And I was told by some people,
you know, unpromptu not asking you know, that they've seen
AJ on campus, they've seen them comforta class, they've had
friends being a class with them. So I mean, I
don't I feel like that's a stretch for people just
to make that up. And again I'm gonna paint a
picture wiber The kid does not a member of the
church who has no reason to want to say that
for what reason to. That's not who Aj is. He's
not the type of person. He says what he means,
he means what he says. He takes accountability, and I
firmly believe that that's what it is.
Speaker 3: Because Aj is a good kid.
Speaker 4: If you get the chance to talk to him, he
all won't talk to his parents. I mean, that's exactly
the kid is. He keeps his head down, he works hard.
So I think this shows a lot of character of
who Aj really is and how bad any has been.
Speaker 3: I think that's the biggest thing.
Speaker 4: The buy in is real. It's really difficult been these
days to get a kid that has no entitlement, that
wants to listen. Go back to the postgame in non conference.
AJ's coachable. You know, we only have to tell him
something this, and he's a smart player. He figured it out.
I wanted to get Robin early. I understand the moment
this kid, he knows what it is. I mean, to
have that pressure been since you were thirteen fourteen, and
how to be nineteen years old. Look, I mean, I
think he, along with many others in this class, are
gonna be the face of the league.
Speaker 3: But I'm very impressed with Aj d Bounce every day.
Speaker 1: Aj Debotch a hole, a well rounded, holistic human in
my opinion, and that's why he's gonna be great. That's
why he should be number one overall in the NBA draft.
Just his upside right, the ceiling is much higher, I think.
And furthermore, I think he's just a good fit for
anybody that's looking for a great teammate. That's what it's about.
It's still a team game. In this celebritized, ego driven
NBA world that it seems that we're we're all trying
to live in and that. But that's the guy that
can win a championship. So if you're if you're about entertainment,
I guess you can go somebody else. If you're about championships,
you're gonna pick Aja number one overall. Let's take a
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What is it that they did well last year? What
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going forward,