1 00:00:00,520 --> 00:00:02,560 Speaker 1: One of the really cool things about doing what I 2 00:00:02,640 --> 00:00:05,080 do is you get to meet with sometimes and talk 3 00:00:05,160 --> 00:00:08,480 with people who become intellectual heroes to you. And I 4 00:00:08,519 --> 00:00:11,119 don't have very many intellectual heroes because I try not 5 00:00:11,160 --> 00:00:15,960 to have human heroes. But intellectually speaking, Greg Glassman, founder, 6 00:00:16,039 --> 00:00:18,359 former CEO of CrossFit, is that to me. 7 00:00:19,079 --> 00:00:19,559 Speaker 2: This is a. 8 00:00:19,519 --> 00:00:23,239 Speaker 1: Guy who observed in a multi billion dollar industry of fitness, 9 00:00:23,399 --> 00:00:27,719 no one could actually say what fitness meant. So he 10 00:00:27,800 --> 00:00:31,120 put this amazing scientific mind with which God has gifted 11 00:00:31,160 --> 00:00:34,560 him to work and figured out how would you define 12 00:00:34,600 --> 00:00:37,679 fitness and then how would you achieve it. People who 13 00:00:37,679 --> 00:00:40,399 don't understand the basis of CrossFit don't understand that that's 14 00:00:40,439 --> 00:00:43,640 the way it disrupted the fitness industry by actually defining 15 00:00:43,679 --> 00:00:47,119 the thing people were seeking. Greg joins me in the 16 00:00:47,159 --> 00:00:50,039 studio today to talk about a number of things. First 17 00:00:50,039 --> 00:00:53,359 of all, a huge tragedy that happened in CrossFit, the 18 00:00:53,520 --> 00:00:56,520 drowning of an athlete. I think you find what Greg 19 00:00:56,520 --> 00:00:59,679 says about this balanced and fair and emotional, and I 20 00:00:59,799 --> 00:01:02,280 was taken aback. He's become a friend of mine and 21 00:01:02,320 --> 00:01:04,799 I rarely see this form of emotion from him. But 22 00:01:05,079 --> 00:01:07,959 the athletes in that sport. He loves him. He also 23 00:01:08,000 --> 00:01:11,680 has good friends who still help run CrossFit. But Greg 24 00:01:11,760 --> 00:01:15,200 came here to talk about science and how it's been destroyed. 25 00:01:16,079 --> 00:01:19,239 It's been destroyed by money seekers, people who are willing 26 00:01:19,280 --> 00:01:22,359 to lie in scientific studies. They did it to Greg. 27 00:01:23,319 --> 00:01:25,200 They did it to him to try to take a 28 00:01:25,280 --> 00:01:29,519 CrossFit out. Greg beat them in court, and my judgment, 29 00:01:29,599 --> 00:01:33,239 he's the first to really destroy Big Sugar in court. 30 00:01:33,920 --> 00:01:34,760 Speaker 2: You'll hear about that. 31 00:01:36,000 --> 00:01:38,480 Speaker 1: Do all this with the help of renewed Healthcare and 32 00:01:38,640 --> 00:01:40,000 with God Almighty. 33 00:01:40,840 --> 00:01:44,400 Speaker 3: The Todd Herman Show is one hundred percent disapproved by 34 00:01:44,439 --> 00:01:51,319 big pharma technocrats and tyrants everywhere. No from the high 35 00:01:51,480 --> 00:01:58,439 mountains of Free America. Here's the Emerald City exile Tod Herman. 36 00:02:13,879 --> 00:02:15,879 Speaker 1: So today is a day the Lord has made, and 37 00:02:15,960 --> 00:02:18,000 these are the times to which God has decided we 38 00:02:18,000 --> 00:02:20,360 shall live. And sitting here with me, my friend, I 39 00:02:20,400 --> 00:02:24,039 am so honored to call you friend, Greg Glassman. We 40 00:02:24,120 --> 00:02:26,879 met just through I guess, the happenings of God. People 41 00:02:26,919 --> 00:02:29,080 said you should talk to this guy Herman. He did 42 00:02:29,120 --> 00:02:32,840 some things, the Rush Limbaugh connection, and I got to 43 00:02:32,919 --> 00:02:34,759 show you run Idaho, you and your family and who 44 00:02:34,800 --> 00:02:36,680 came up here show you knew an old Idaho. You 45 00:02:36,800 --> 00:02:39,479 told me that day. We're friends now, and that meant 46 00:02:39,479 --> 00:02:42,280 so much to me. I never anticipated meeting such a 47 00:02:42,400 --> 00:02:44,960 kind and unffacing, unassuming man. 48 00:02:45,000 --> 00:02:47,039 Speaker 2: Thank you for that. Thank you, and you know it 49 00:02:47,120 --> 00:02:47,800 really is a. 50 00:02:50,360 --> 00:02:53,560 Speaker 4: Had I not done CrossFit, were you not Todd Herman 51 00:02:53,680 --> 00:02:56,879 doing Todd Herman things, we still would have met. Because 52 00:02:56,879 --> 00:03:00,000 it was the crowdingers that I ran into at North 53 00:03:00,039 --> 00:03:04,319 at forty and fell in love with their dog, Gus. 54 00:03:04,560 --> 00:03:05,960 I actually been all the way to my house in 55 00:03:06,000 --> 00:03:08,599 Santa Cruse and jumped into the koi pond after the koi. 56 00:03:08,800 --> 00:03:12,080 Speaker 2: Yeah, but I met I met them. 57 00:03:11,879 --> 00:03:14,879 Speaker 4: And they knew you, and it was a pretty kind 58 00:03:14,879 --> 00:03:15,199 of an. 59 00:03:15,080 --> 00:03:16,120 Speaker 2: Old school meeting. 60 00:03:16,280 --> 00:03:16,599 Speaker 3: Yeah. 61 00:03:16,759 --> 00:03:20,039 Speaker 1: Yeah, Well it's been a blessing. And you made some 62 00:03:20,080 --> 00:03:23,639 predictions when you create a CrossFit that people said could 63 00:03:23,680 --> 00:03:25,759 never happen, and I want to talk up that. I 64 00:03:25,759 --> 00:03:28,080 want to talk quickly about the games this year, this 65 00:03:28,080 --> 00:03:30,639 this tragedy with a lizar Jusic and what happened there. 66 00:03:30,759 --> 00:03:33,159 I was sitting here chatting with Greg Glassman, and I 67 00:03:33,280 --> 00:03:36,439 know we're going to talk today about the corruption of 68 00:03:36,520 --> 00:03:40,960 science and how it's been corrupted for money. Corruption follows money. 69 00:03:41,039 --> 00:03:42,919 The love of money is the root of all evil. 70 00:03:42,960 --> 00:03:45,840 The love of money. Now, my friend Zach Abraham, the 71 00:03:45,879 --> 00:03:49,280 chief investments a capital management He doesn't love money, He 72 00:03:49,400 --> 00:03:52,479 stewards it. What he loves is managing risk for people. 73 00:03:52,479 --> 00:03:56,439 What he loves is seeing people enter into retirement with 74 00:03:56,560 --> 00:04:01,039 a successful plan. And Zach has a unique way of 75 00:04:01,120 --> 00:04:04,800 describing what a successful retirement means. It's not what some 76 00:04:04,840 --> 00:04:07,759 other people would do. Other people will show you pictures 77 00:04:07,759 --> 00:04:11,520 of beach vacations and two million dollar RVs and multiple homes, 78 00:04:11,560 --> 00:04:14,479 and maybe that's what you want. What is it what 79 00:04:14,520 --> 00:04:19,399 you could afford? Zach engages in risk management by actively 80 00:04:19,439 --> 00:04:23,319 managing every single portfolio, which can reduce risk and volatility. 81 00:04:23,600 --> 00:04:26,319 And he will look at your accounts. He'll look at 82 00:04:26,360 --> 00:04:29,040 your equity and your home, your investment accounts, any sort 83 00:04:29,040 --> 00:04:31,800 of outstanding debts you have, and he will tell you 84 00:04:32,079 --> 00:04:34,120 how exposed you are to risk and how near you 85 00:04:34,199 --> 00:04:38,600 are to successful retirement. And here's how Zach defines success 86 00:04:38,720 --> 00:04:42,959 in retirement, knowing exactly how much money you will have 87 00:04:43,439 --> 00:04:45,519 every month for the rest. 88 00:04:45,319 --> 00:04:45,839 Speaker 2: Of your life. 89 00:04:46,959 --> 00:04:49,800 Speaker 1: And he'll look at these portfolios for free. No obligation. 90 00:04:50,000 --> 00:04:52,319 Just call him an eight sixty six seven to seventy 91 00:04:52,399 --> 00:04:55,439 nine risk. That's eight six six seven seven nine risk. 92 00:04:55,759 --> 00:04:58,680 Or go to Know your Risk radio dot com and 93 00:04:58,800 --> 00:05:01,639 he'll make that happen for you. Well work Capital Managements 94 00:05:01,639 --> 00:05:04,639 and Investment Advisor representative of Truck Financial LLC and SEC 95 00:05:04,720 --> 00:05:09,040 registered investment advisor. Investments involve risk and are not guaranteed. 96 00:05:09,120 --> 00:05:13,240 Past performance isn't contery future results. Truck twenty four Dash 97 00:05:13,360 --> 00:05:17,879 three seven eight. You predicted you could produce athletes who 98 00:05:17,879 --> 00:05:20,800 could squat five hundred pounds and turn around and run 99 00:05:20,839 --> 00:05:22,920 if correct, If I'm wrong, a sub five minute mile, 100 00:05:23,920 --> 00:05:27,600 could perform high level gymnastics, and could do all these things. 101 00:05:28,000 --> 00:05:34,600 Given your thesis as CrossFit, that CrossFit is constantly varied 102 00:05:34,600 --> 00:05:37,199 functional movements performed that high intensity in order to perform 103 00:05:37,639 --> 00:05:41,040 increase work capacity across broad time and modal spectrums. 104 00:05:41,319 --> 00:05:46,000 Speaker 2: Yeah that's close. Yeah, that's Close's nervous that. 105 00:05:45,920 --> 00:05:49,560 Speaker 1: To the creator of that, I'm nervous, but that came true. 106 00:05:50,920 --> 00:05:55,079 Speaker 4: Yeah, you know, the first fundamental theorem of CrossFit is 107 00:05:55,120 --> 00:06:00,399 that constantly very high intensity functional movement would increase work 108 00:06:00,439 --> 00:06:04,120 capacity across broad time and modal domains. Got Okay, Yeah, 109 00:06:04,120 --> 00:06:06,600 it's very close, close enough, and. 110 00:06:08,240 --> 00:06:08,600 Speaker 2: You know. 111 00:06:10,079 --> 00:06:15,439 Speaker 4: That went, that went unchallenged, and so people had every 112 00:06:15,560 --> 00:06:18,680 kind of problem you could imagine with CrossFit, but no 113 00:06:18,720 --> 00:06:24,920 one said that's wrong. And with time, what I would 114 00:06:25,680 --> 00:06:29,319 what comes to be what you're hearing there in constantly 115 00:06:29,439 --> 00:06:33,560 very high intensity functional movement increases work capacity across broad 116 00:06:33,600 --> 00:06:38,680 time and mortal domains. What we have is CrossFit in 117 00:06:38,759 --> 00:06:42,879 the constantly very high intensity functional movement and fitness in 118 00:06:42,920 --> 00:06:45,920 the increased work capacity across broad time and modal domains. 119 00:06:45,959 --> 00:06:49,360 Now what's important here is that we are going to 120 00:06:49,639 --> 00:06:53,279 call an increase in work capacity across broad time and 121 00:06:53,319 --> 00:06:56,759 mortal domains. We're going to define that as fitness, and 122 00:06:56,839 --> 00:06:59,680 you have a right to do that. Definitions aren't right 123 00:06:59,839 --> 00:07:03,279 or wrong. They're consistent or inconsistent. They're useful or not, 124 00:07:03,399 --> 00:07:06,959 they produce utility or not right. And so you know, 125 00:07:06,959 --> 00:07:09,079 if you're going to call if you're going to call 126 00:07:09,160 --> 00:07:11,240 that house plant a tiger, I'm okay. As long as 127 00:07:11,279 --> 00:07:13,120 I know that when you say tiger, that's what you're 128 00:07:13,120 --> 00:07:16,040 referring to, that Ficus benjamina or whatever it is, we 129 00:07:16,079 --> 00:07:19,120 can we can still communicate. But what we did was 130 00:07:19,160 --> 00:07:22,560 we adopted work capacity across broad time and modal domains 131 00:07:22,600 --> 00:07:25,920 as a definition of fitness. And then what we told 132 00:07:25,959 --> 00:07:28,879 the world is that this will have application for any 133 00:07:28,920 --> 00:07:33,000 and all activities, and that in fact turned out to 134 00:07:33,040 --> 00:07:37,639 be true. And the expression of that in local communities, 135 00:07:37,680 --> 00:07:39,879 and what I mean by expression, the application of that 136 00:07:40,000 --> 00:07:44,319 concept to your friends and neighbors in the barn gave 137 00:07:44,399 --> 00:07:46,680 living proof to the to the very concept. And so 138 00:07:47,199 --> 00:07:55,879 without looking for Japanese string quartets traveling internationally or heavy 139 00:07:55,920 --> 00:08:00,000 metal bands, they came forward to say they were crossfitters. 140 00:08:00,040 --> 00:08:03,759 And this is true of astronauts, football players, rugby players 141 00:08:03,839 --> 00:08:06,480 to fill in and get war fighters right, are proud. 142 00:08:06,519 --> 00:08:08,519 It's huge, sponders, huge. 143 00:08:08,439 --> 00:08:11,040 Speaker 1: Huge thing in the CrossFit community. And my point I'm 144 00:08:11,040 --> 00:08:14,240 bringing this up is part way to bridge into you 145 00:08:14,319 --> 00:08:17,079 come from a scientific background, given the virtue of your 146 00:08:17,079 --> 00:08:19,879 families and your minds. The minds of your parents will talk. 147 00:08:19,759 --> 00:08:20,439 Speaker 2: About that. 148 00:08:21,800 --> 00:08:24,519 Speaker 1: There are people who have special needs kids and this 149 00:08:24,639 --> 00:08:28,519 happens that they have to adjust their expectation for their kids, 150 00:08:28,600 --> 00:08:31,480 and this is really hard for parents. Parents say, well, 151 00:08:31,519 --> 00:08:33,240 my kid's going to be he's going to go to 152 00:08:33,279 --> 00:08:35,399 my college and he's going to pursue my profession, and 153 00:08:35,759 --> 00:08:38,360 when they find out the kids have are non neurotypical, 154 00:08:38,399 --> 00:08:39,840 a lot of times for parents that can be oh 155 00:08:39,879 --> 00:08:43,840 my gosh, and it's a difficult thing to adjust. Expectations 156 00:08:44,240 --> 00:08:47,200 doesn't mean that you stop loving, you stop pushing, stop believing. 157 00:08:47,759 --> 00:08:50,120 For parents of kids who have special needs, for them 158 00:08:50,159 --> 00:08:55,559 to understand that Alan has it really tough. He's effectively nonverbal. 159 00:08:55,840 --> 00:08:59,559 He has at eighteen operations. He's only fourteen years old. 160 00:09:00,159 --> 00:09:03,720 He works, He invents soap. He works at the company 161 00:09:03,720 --> 00:09:06,919 in quality control. His brother Ian is impacted by autism. 162 00:09:07,000 --> 00:09:12,279 He works, He contributes Amy who got late on set autism. 163 00:09:12,759 --> 00:09:15,759 She's thriving, helping with social media, et cetera. She was 164 00:09:15,759 --> 00:09:20,279 told she's hirable and the soap is of pristine quality. 165 00:09:20,399 --> 00:09:23,399 There's no way John would put his son's name on 166 00:09:23,480 --> 00:09:26,440 a soap that sucked. So they researched a family. They 167 00:09:26,440 --> 00:09:30,000 found him in the Midwest. They are three generations into 168 00:09:30,039 --> 00:09:33,840 the soap crafting world. That's what that's all they do. 169 00:09:34,480 --> 00:09:36,559 They took on the fragrances that Alan thought of, that 170 00:09:36,720 --> 00:09:38,279 came from special memories for him. 171 00:09:38,679 --> 00:09:39,080 Speaker 2: They create. 172 00:09:39,120 --> 00:09:42,200 Speaker 1: Those soaps are all natural, they're made in America to 173 00:09:42,240 --> 00:09:45,080 give this to families with kids with special needs, partic 174 00:09:45,159 --> 00:09:47,440 of the younger kids. It's a side of hope and 175 00:09:47,440 --> 00:09:50,240 every time they wash their bodies they can remember that. Yep, 176 00:09:50,320 --> 00:09:53,080 our kids too can work. Our kids can contribute. What 177 00:09:53,159 --> 00:09:55,320 the word saying is not true. So go to alansoaps 178 00:09:55,360 --> 00:09:59,200 dot com slash todd. That's Alan soaps dot com slash todd. 179 00:10:00,840 --> 00:10:03,799 Let me just ask you though the games, this tragedy, 180 00:10:04,200 --> 00:10:08,000 Lazar Jusic, he drowns. You know, I looked at the 181 00:10:08,039 --> 00:10:12,000 numbers on this triathletes drowned. It happens sadly, sort of 182 00:10:12,039 --> 00:10:15,879 commonly first death and CrossFit. Horrible tragedy. But as a 183 00:10:15,919 --> 00:10:18,799 guy who ran it and founded it, what'd you make 184 00:10:18,840 --> 00:10:19,240 about that? 185 00:10:20,039 --> 00:10:23,519 Speaker 4: It's it's tragic, and my heart goes out to the 186 00:10:24,000 --> 00:10:27,039 athlete and his family, the people loved ones he leaves behind, 187 00:10:27,080 --> 00:10:32,320 of course. But then, you know, as the as the 188 00:10:32,360 --> 00:10:37,759 morning eases and you move forward, I think it's imperative 189 00:10:37,799 --> 00:10:40,519 that you look at two aspects of this and treat 190 00:10:40,559 --> 00:10:45,039 them somewhat independently. The first would be, why did we 191 00:10:45,159 --> 00:10:48,519 not pull Lazarre onto a paddle board within seconds? 192 00:10:48,919 --> 00:10:50,120 Speaker 2: Why did that not happen. 193 00:10:50,879 --> 00:10:54,639 Speaker 4: And if you don't pay attention to that, I think yourresponsible, 194 00:10:54,639 --> 00:10:57,159 foolish and mature, and probably shouldn't be weighing in at all. 195 00:10:58,240 --> 00:11:02,399 If you think that's all that's important here, then similarly, 196 00:11:02,440 --> 00:11:05,200 I think you're foolish and immature and irresponsible. There's more 197 00:11:05,200 --> 00:11:09,000 to it than that, though, that is important and independent 198 00:11:09,080 --> 00:11:12,639 of the other aspect. And the other aspect is why 199 00:11:12,679 --> 00:11:19,559 does a professional water polo player in the prime of 200 00:11:19,600 --> 00:11:23,879 his fitness in life drowned on the finish line of 201 00:11:24,039 --> 00:11:30,159 a nothing race. Athletes die in sport. Swimmers don't die 202 00:11:30,200 --> 00:11:34,399 at swim meets. And when you look at those triathlon deaths, 203 00:11:34,440 --> 00:11:37,120 and boy, you know, theres are made the list of 204 00:11:38,440 --> 00:11:42,519 a multi sport and triathlon athlete deaths within hours of 205 00:11:43,039 --> 00:11:45,600 being passed away. But if you look at that list, 206 00:11:45,639 --> 00:11:48,000 and there's an inordinate number of the people that have 207 00:11:48,120 --> 00:11:52,360 died in water. And the typical kind of scenario is 208 00:11:52,360 --> 00:11:55,600 someone in their forties to sixties at a triathlon where 209 00:11:55,639 --> 00:11:58,320 there isn't been a screening to the extent there was here. 210 00:11:59,159 --> 00:12:02,159 And so this was a professional event of professional athletes, 211 00:12:02,720 --> 00:12:06,960 and and they lost a kid tragically, and they got 212 00:12:06,960 --> 00:12:09,440 to figure out both. We need to know what happened 213 00:12:09,480 --> 00:12:13,279 to the lizaar that he fell under the water, and 214 00:12:13,399 --> 00:12:16,639 that may have been something that would It may look 215 00:12:16,720 --> 00:12:19,200 like perhaps he should have been decued from even being 216 00:12:19,240 --> 00:12:21,320 in a competition, But I don't know. 217 00:12:21,480 --> 00:12:22,360 Speaker 2: We'll have to know. 218 00:12:24,759 --> 00:12:29,200 Speaker 4: Something went horribly wrong for a professional water polo paper. 219 00:12:29,519 --> 00:12:32,879 Everyone else came out of the water running. Okay, here's 220 00:12:32,919 --> 00:12:35,240 a guy that couldn't couldn't do it at the end, 221 00:12:35,279 --> 00:12:38,320 and so there was some kind of crisis, I would presume. 222 00:12:39,159 --> 00:12:46,840 And in terms of the rescue, I want my responders 223 00:12:47,240 --> 00:12:49,840 the expectation would be and I know Dave would feel 224 00:12:49,879 --> 00:12:54,799 the same that, Yes, you don't care if the person's 225 00:12:54,919 --> 00:12:58,919 dead or cramping. You want them onto the board and 226 00:12:59,120 --> 00:13:02,039 towards help as soon as possible. 227 00:13:02,279 --> 00:13:05,360 Speaker 1: Yeah, and look, Dave is he was a Navy seal. 228 00:13:05,960 --> 00:13:08,679 The you know the ethos there is you don't leave 229 00:13:08,679 --> 00:13:11,480 anyone behind, you never live. Urther on, if Dave was there, 230 00:13:11,519 --> 00:13:12,960 he would have been in the water. I mean, if 231 00:13:12,960 --> 00:13:15,120 he was there, Dave would have polled was out. 232 00:13:14,879 --> 00:13:15,679 Speaker 2: Of the water himself. 233 00:13:15,759 --> 00:13:18,120 Speaker 1: Yes, I don't have any doubt about that. I don't 234 00:13:18,120 --> 00:13:21,440 know him well, but you do so from CrossFit, you know, 235 00:13:21,480 --> 00:13:23,080 and this tragy. Thanks for responding to that. 236 00:13:23,120 --> 00:13:25,600 Speaker 4: I want to add one piece to this, please well, 237 00:13:25,840 --> 00:13:28,159 I think it's important, and that is we learned from 238 00:13:28,200 --> 00:13:32,759 our support of infant swim resource that is, CrossFit was 239 00:13:33,720 --> 00:13:39,840 huge in the space of infant toddler child drowning and 240 00:13:39,879 --> 00:13:42,240 we committed an enormous amount of resources to that of 241 00:13:42,279 --> 00:13:46,799 every sort imaginable, from attention to cash. And I have 242 00:13:47,399 --> 00:13:49,960 ten kids, and nine of them have been through the 243 00:13:49,960 --> 00:13:53,720 ISR program. Could swim before they were six months old, 244 00:13:54,080 --> 00:13:58,200 would float at least. And there's a myth of hypervigilance 245 00:13:58,840 --> 00:14:02,039 that with enough tension on someone, you're gonna prevent him 246 00:14:02,080 --> 00:14:02,639 from drowning. 247 00:14:03,759 --> 00:14:06,960 Speaker 2: And it's just not true. 248 00:14:07,039 --> 00:14:09,679 Speaker 4: And I can give you story after story after story 249 00:14:10,039 --> 00:14:14,039 of hyper vigilant mothers losing a child's drowning. And I 250 00:14:14,080 --> 00:14:17,639 mean as simple as is put a kid on the floor, 251 00:14:17,679 --> 00:14:20,559 turn around, put the bottle and refrigerator, turn around. 252 00:14:20,600 --> 00:14:21,279 Speaker 2: The kids gone. 253 00:14:21,360 --> 00:14:23,960 Speaker 4: There's a search of the room, the house, the other rooms. 254 00:14:24,200 --> 00:14:26,320 There was a doggy door behind the bookcase. The kid 255 00:14:26,360 --> 00:14:28,159 made a five foot crawl out the door was in 256 00:14:28,200 --> 00:14:30,759 the pool. They didn't find him till it was too late. 257 00:14:31,559 --> 00:14:36,000 And you know that's hard. But Dave's going through a 258 00:14:36,039 --> 00:14:39,120 lot of that. I mean, he's tortured by this, of 259 00:14:39,200 --> 00:14:41,600 course he is. Yeah, I knew he would be. I 260 00:14:41,639 --> 00:14:46,480 knew he was ill prepared for this, because nobody is yeah, 261 00:14:46,919 --> 00:14:49,639 there's nothing, there's no there's no amount of kicking indoors, 262 00:14:49,720 --> 00:14:52,679 killing terrorists that's going to prepare you for someone drowning. 263 00:14:52,320 --> 00:14:53,679 Speaker 2: While you're watching, you know. 264 00:14:54,240 --> 00:14:58,120 Speaker 4: Yeah, And but the community, community will survive it. 265 00:14:58,120 --> 00:14:59,360 Speaker 2: It won't be the last time. Either. 266 00:15:01,240 --> 00:15:03,480 Speaker 4: Someone's going to have a heart attack on a rope 267 00:15:03,480 --> 00:15:06,039 climb and then the rope climb is going to be dangerous. 268 00:15:06,320 --> 00:15:10,240 You know, it happens. I remember once and I said 269 00:15:10,240 --> 00:15:12,279 this would be an inside It'll be quick. I remember 270 00:15:12,320 --> 00:15:16,840 once watching a client after a long warm up start 271 00:15:17,120 --> 00:15:19,440 a process of a beginning warm up for a run 272 00:15:19,480 --> 00:15:22,200 at bench and we had ninety five pounds on the 273 00:15:22,240 --> 00:15:24,039 bar and he was just gonna moment we were moving 274 00:15:24,039 --> 00:15:27,360 in the direction of like four twenty five, four point thirty. 275 00:15:27,200 --> 00:15:27,279 Speaker 3: Just. 276 00:15:29,000 --> 00:15:32,480 Speaker 4: Reaching down towards the bar. He ah, did that classic 277 00:15:32,559 --> 00:15:35,799 reach behind? Yeah, And I'm like, dear God, David, another's 278 00:15:35,799 --> 00:15:38,080 six inches and it would have been a deadlife accident. 279 00:15:39,519 --> 00:15:42,519 But as it was, it was what what happens to 280 00:15:42,600 --> 00:15:46,600 people you know? 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That's also at Bonefrog Coffee dot com dot 300 00:16:51,399 --> 00:16:57,159 todd or Bonefrogsellers dot com slash todd. You got attacked 301 00:16:57,279 --> 00:17:01,559 using bad science. Big Show came at you. This is 302 00:17:01,600 --> 00:17:04,759 when I probably the first time people started calling you 303 00:17:04,799 --> 00:17:07,000 about me is I did an hour on this on 304 00:17:07,079 --> 00:17:09,759 Russia and Bass Show. God rest the maha about you 305 00:17:09,799 --> 00:17:12,119 getting attacked by Big Sugar, and you beat them. You 306 00:17:12,200 --> 00:17:15,640 destroyed them in court and they had effectively faked up 307 00:17:15,680 --> 00:17:19,279 research to show that CrossFit injured people more commonly than 308 00:17:19,279 --> 00:17:22,000 global gems. And the way that I mean, the way 309 00:17:22,039 --> 00:17:24,880 you found this out was emails and finnartsic discovery when 310 00:17:24,880 --> 00:17:27,400 I think the principles were saying, we don't have these emails, 311 00:17:27,640 --> 00:17:29,960 and then it went before the judge and the judge 312 00:17:30,000 --> 00:17:33,079 basically ordered a different firm to come in and do 313 00:17:33,200 --> 00:17:36,160 forensic accounting of the emails. And can you tell a 314 00:17:36,160 --> 00:17:38,480 little bit about how they faked up that science because 315 00:17:38,480 --> 00:17:40,960 this can bridge us into the Broken Science Institute. 316 00:17:41,519 --> 00:17:45,440 Speaker 4: Yeah, the National Strength and Conditioning Association published a study 317 00:17:45,480 --> 00:17:47,960 that should cross It was remarkably effective, but it is 318 00:17:48,000 --> 00:17:52,319 at an unacceptable cost due to injury and on cursory 319 00:17:52,400 --> 00:17:54,480 examination of the figures, what I saw was, I think 320 00:17:54,480 --> 00:17:57,400 it was a sixteen percent injury rate, and there was 321 00:17:57,400 --> 00:17:59,000 no other dropouts from the program. 322 00:17:59,000 --> 00:18:00,319 Speaker 2: And I knew, damn well, if you. 323 00:18:00,359 --> 00:18:04,079 Speaker 4: Expose people across the CrossFit, you'll lose twenty five percent 324 00:18:04,440 --> 00:18:06,160 that are just going to go home aware of what 325 00:18:06,160 --> 00:18:07,759 it's going to cost to be fit and don't want 326 00:18:07,759 --> 00:18:11,319 to participate anymore. So there should be a quarter that 327 00:18:11,519 --> 00:18:15,519 just disappear because that's not for me kind of thing. 328 00:18:15,960 --> 00:18:18,400 But they had sixteen percent injured in no walk away, 329 00:18:18,400 --> 00:18:20,400 and so I said, we need to look more closely. 330 00:18:21,160 --> 00:18:24,519 And it didn't take long until we found that that 331 00:18:25,039 --> 00:18:27,519 this just wasn't true, that it hadn't happened that way, 332 00:18:28,480 --> 00:18:33,799 and we then immediately just started going down the core 333 00:18:33,960 --> 00:18:38,920 the Committee on the COPE, Committee of Publishing, Research, publishing ethics, 334 00:18:39,279 --> 00:18:43,799 whatever it is that we went by this international agency 335 00:18:43,960 --> 00:18:49,920 standards for what the responses should be to studies that 336 00:18:50,000 --> 00:18:53,759 you know, to be fabricated or falsified or playsarized, and 337 00:18:53,880 --> 00:18:56,400 we called their attention to it, and they just let us, 338 00:18:56,440 --> 00:18:58,599 knowing certain terms, that they were going to do nothing 339 00:18:58,599 --> 00:19:01,079 about it. And so we did something that. 340 00:19:01,079 --> 00:19:02,240 Speaker 2: Had never been done before. 341 00:19:02,559 --> 00:19:06,799 Speaker 4: I retained, had kept hinder constant retainer. Smile because my 342 00:19:06,960 --> 00:19:11,880 relationship with Lathan Watkins is long, profound, close and something 343 00:19:11,920 --> 00:19:16,039 I'm proud of. But Lathan Watkins brought a team of 344 00:19:16,119 --> 00:19:22,200 Manhattan white shoe attorneys to Ohio and set up camp 345 00:19:22,279 --> 00:19:26,240 in this in this little town and deposed every single 346 00:19:26,279 --> 00:19:29,880 person involved in this study, every single person. 347 00:19:30,160 --> 00:19:31,359 Speaker 2: This was millions of dollars. 348 00:19:31,440 --> 00:19:33,119 Speaker 4: I mean, these guys are making four hundred and fifty 349 00:19:33,160 --> 00:19:35,359 dollars an hour, and you got a team of them, 350 00:19:35,359 --> 00:19:38,240 and they're and they're they're living there, right, And they 351 00:19:38,319 --> 00:19:39,680 deposed everyone involved. 352 00:19:39,680 --> 00:19:41,119 Speaker 2: And so we had the. 353 00:19:41,119 --> 00:19:44,720 Speaker 4: Reality and we asked for some emails. They said they 354 00:19:44,720 --> 00:19:47,599 didn't exist. We had some of them. We showed the judge. 355 00:19:47,640 --> 00:19:52,119 She got pissed off and ordered a forensic evaluation of 356 00:19:52,200 --> 00:19:57,200 their servers, cell phones, iPads, and they started destroying equipment iPad, 357 00:19:57,319 --> 00:19:59,599 cell phones, we don't have them computers. 358 00:20:00,119 --> 00:20:01,039 Speaker 2: But it didn't work. 359 00:20:01,079 --> 00:20:03,839 Speaker 4: They still we still got our hands on an amazing 360 00:20:04,640 --> 00:20:09,400 tranch of material. The National sent Conditioning Association had more 361 00:20:09,440 --> 00:20:13,839 emails on CrossFit than CrossFit had on its servers about CrossFit. Wow, 362 00:20:13,880 --> 00:20:16,160 they knew more about us than we knew about ourselves, 363 00:20:17,000 --> 00:20:19,559 and they told the judge they didn't see as a competitor. 364 00:20:19,920 --> 00:20:22,440 But the guy that testified to that effect had we'd 365 00:20:22,480 --> 00:20:25,920 seen an email that was his competitive analysis of CrossFit. 366 00:20:25,960 --> 00:20:27,920 He came to the sert, he set on his own dime, 367 00:20:27,960 --> 00:20:30,160 but we had an email where he was asking to 368 00:20:30,160 --> 00:20:33,319 be reimbursed for his going on this trip. And so 369 00:20:33,400 --> 00:20:35,720 then the federal judge just started referring to him as 370 00:20:35,759 --> 00:20:39,240 the perjurer in the case. But she said this was 371 00:20:39,279 --> 00:20:42,319 the most egregious behavior that she'd seen in thirty five 372 00:20:42,400 --> 00:20:43,960 years on the bench, and this is someone had sent 373 00:20:44,200 --> 00:20:47,400 people to jail forever. Now, mind you, this was also 374 00:20:47,440 --> 00:20:50,279 going on in the state court because early in the 375 00:20:50,319 --> 00:20:53,960 process I referred to the NSCA and the American College 376 00:20:53,960 --> 00:20:55,599 of Sports Medicine is soda hores. 377 00:20:56,319 --> 00:20:59,039 Speaker 2: So they they sued me for that. 378 00:20:59,400 --> 00:21:01,480 Speaker 1: Gosh sued you for calling him soda horse. 379 00:21:01,799 --> 00:21:04,960 Speaker 4: Indeed, and Russ Green and CrossFit by name, Russ Green 380 00:21:05,000 --> 00:21:07,000 by name, and maybe Russ Berger was in there too, 381 00:21:07,039 --> 00:21:08,839 So we all got picked up in this suit and 382 00:21:09,000 --> 00:21:12,720 state court for calling him soda horse. My attorney's line 383 00:21:12,759 --> 00:21:16,119 was calling someone a whore doesn't have any meaning. And 384 00:21:16,599 --> 00:21:22,160 I during this deposition interjected, Oh, I have a meeting. 385 00:21:22,200 --> 00:21:25,240 I'll tell you exactly what I mean by big guy roll. 386 00:21:25,240 --> 00:21:29,039 And here it king and it's it's taking cash for 387 00:21:29,039 --> 00:21:33,519 for unethical, immortal, hidden secret activities, is what it is. 388 00:21:33,640 --> 00:21:33,839 Speaker 3: You know. 389 00:21:34,359 --> 00:21:36,640 Speaker 4: That's what That's why I'm calling you a soda horse. 390 00:21:37,200 --> 00:21:40,640 But they said they didn't have any interaction with soda. 391 00:21:40,720 --> 00:21:43,400 We showed some interaction with soda, and the stay judge 392 00:21:43,440 --> 00:21:47,480 demanded a forensic review of their servers again the same 393 00:21:47,559 --> 00:21:48,680 we got it from the state court. 394 00:21:48,880 --> 00:21:50,200 Speaker 2: And he also let us know. 395 00:21:50,240 --> 00:21:53,759 Speaker 4: That he was aware of the perjury in the in 396 00:21:53,799 --> 00:21:54,720 the federal case. 397 00:21:55,160 --> 00:21:55,519 Speaker 2: Wow. 398 00:21:55,559 --> 00:21:58,680 Speaker 4: And what it happened was that one of the guys 399 00:21:58,720 --> 00:22:00,160 that perjured himself. 400 00:22:00,799 --> 00:22:02,160 Speaker 2: In the in the. 401 00:22:03,640 --> 00:22:09,400 Speaker 4: In the federal case admitted in deposition in the state 402 00:22:09,519 --> 00:22:13,519 case is to having lied before and at these judges 403 00:22:13,559 --> 00:22:15,599 were the federal judges and the state judge were both 404 00:22:15,599 --> 00:22:18,880 in San Diego, and the question as to whether they 405 00:22:18,920 --> 00:22:23,359 may have contacted one another became immediately apparent that these 406 00:22:23,359 --> 00:22:25,960 guys were trying in state court. What they what they 407 00:22:26,000 --> 00:22:28,680 were losing at in federal court incredible, And so we 408 00:22:28,759 --> 00:22:31,519 got inference sanctions that granted us all the particulars of 409 00:22:31,559 --> 00:22:36,640 the case, and that was the the uh falsification and 410 00:22:36,680 --> 00:22:39,480 fabrication of data. And in fact we got all all 411 00:22:39,519 --> 00:22:42,519 the even the tiny elements that you disseminated. This international 412 00:22:42,680 --> 00:22:45,799 disinformation crossed state lines that it would be natural and 413 00:22:45,920 --> 00:22:49,119 right to presume that this would hurt. It did indeed hurt. 414 00:22:49,240 --> 00:22:52,279 I mean every element that was needed that you'd have 415 00:22:52,359 --> 00:22:54,799 to and so our Lathan Watkins guys are going, I've 416 00:22:54,839 --> 00:22:57,920 never seen anything like this. We were handed every element 417 00:22:58,359 --> 00:23:03,279 everything we'd want to prove. There's there's nothing left to adjudicate, 418 00:23:03,400 --> 00:23:07,039 there's nothing less to litigate other than penalty. At this point, 419 00:23:07,839 --> 00:23:10,039 we were handed every single. 420 00:23:09,680 --> 00:23:10,119 Speaker 2: Part of this. 421 00:23:10,200 --> 00:23:15,400 Speaker 4: Incredible and it took academic interest, caught academic interests for 422 00:23:15,440 --> 00:23:17,839 this reason. It was there have been. 423 00:23:18,279 --> 00:23:19,400 Speaker 2: There's a hall of fame. 424 00:23:19,480 --> 00:23:21,640 Speaker 4: In fact, this is part of what we collected broken science. 425 00:23:21,640 --> 00:23:26,319 But there's a hall of fame of scientific misconduct stunts. Yeah, 426 00:23:26,359 --> 00:23:29,119 there's a taxonomy of it. You can go by nationality 427 00:23:29,240 --> 00:23:32,720 or by field Alzheimer's research or coming from Egypt or 428 00:23:32,759 --> 00:23:33,480 whatever you like. 429 00:23:33,559 --> 00:23:35,759 Speaker 2: There's a there's an enormous. 430 00:23:35,400 --> 00:23:38,440 Speaker 4: Body of work in that in that space, but it 431 00:23:38,599 --> 00:23:42,680 typically in every case seemed to involve one or two 432 00:23:42,799 --> 00:23:48,799 miscreant sciencests within an organization. Specifically, while at a university, 433 00:23:48,759 --> 00:23:52,519 you're in some kind of you know, international body. But 434 00:23:53,039 --> 00:23:57,440 what we had with the NSCA was an entire organization 435 00:23:58,039 --> 00:24:03,599 committed to a scientific misconduct, you know, procedurally almost statute. 436 00:24:03,839 --> 00:24:04,039 Speaker 2: Yeah. 437 00:24:04,799 --> 00:24:09,440 Speaker 4: Also also with with funds that couldn't be explained. They 438 00:24:09,480 --> 00:24:12,880 turned their pockets inside out, got nothing. Judge orders them 439 00:24:12,880 --> 00:24:15,599 to give us four million dollars within thirty days, and they. 440 00:24:15,519 --> 00:24:19,279 Speaker 2: Come up with it. I mean, how did that happen? Yeah? 441 00:24:19,319 --> 00:24:23,480 Speaker 4: And it was funny because I'm going, where the hell 442 00:24:23,559 --> 00:24:26,079 did they get the money? And I go, maybe we 443 00:24:26,119 --> 00:24:31,039 shouldn't take it because it could be illegally, dishonestly gotten. 444 00:24:31,279 --> 00:24:36,359 In my turns of th stop, just take the money. 445 00:24:36,559 --> 00:24:38,599 We know where they got it. We know they got it. 446 00:24:38,599 --> 00:24:41,880 They got it from from their sugar daddies. 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If you're watching this, 490 00:27:02,240 --> 00:27:04,119 by the way, on YouTube, I'm about to we're entering 491 00:27:04,119 --> 00:27:06,200 into a portion of the discussion YouTube will not allow, 492 00:27:06,880 --> 00:27:09,000 so you can go to video dot Todd. Herman show 493 00:27:09,039 --> 00:27:10,839 dot com get a seven day free trial. You could 494 00:27:10,839 --> 00:27:12,799 look at this. This is we're going to enter into 495 00:27:12,839 --> 00:27:16,599 discussion that's banned on YouTube. Okay, the COVID era comes about, 496 00:27:17,359 --> 00:27:20,160 and a couple things happened at that point. You put 497 00:27:20,160 --> 00:27:23,160 out a tweet and it was related to George Floyd, 498 00:27:23,839 --> 00:27:26,279 and you said, oh, great, now we get directly. Yeah, 499 00:27:26,319 --> 00:27:28,359 now we get Floyd nineteen. I know what you were saying. 500 00:27:28,400 --> 00:27:30,599 I looked at that and said, Greg is making a 501 00:27:30,599 --> 00:27:33,759 commentary on this is a very sad thing. This This 502 00:27:33,839 --> 00:27:35,480 man had a sad life. This is sad that a 503 00:27:35,519 --> 00:27:36,079 man died. 504 00:27:37,039 --> 00:27:37,880 Speaker 2: I know your heart. 505 00:27:38,119 --> 00:27:40,279 Speaker 1: But you're also saying, Okay, now we're going to get 506 00:27:40,440 --> 00:27:42,240 We're going to take this case and pretend this is 507 00:27:42,240 --> 00:27:45,119 happening all around the world. It's going to be blown out, 508 00:27:45,319 --> 00:27:48,920 pretending that this is common everyday thing, like they did 509 00:27:48,960 --> 00:27:52,039 with COVID. And that's what I saw from it. Maybe 510 00:27:52,079 --> 00:27:53,640 I'm said that I hadn't meant you yet. 511 00:27:53,759 --> 00:27:57,160 Speaker 4: Let me give my quick perspective on this. I Chimmy 512 00:27:57,960 --> 00:28:03,640 was in this country was Imperial College in Europe in London. 513 00:28:04,240 --> 00:28:09,559 But the Ihimmy at University of Washington, Seattle had led 514 00:28:09,920 --> 00:28:14,839 in the model production that forced this lockdown and the 515 00:28:14,880 --> 00:28:19,440 silly mass and everything else we went through promoted a 516 00:28:19,519 --> 00:28:21,599 vaccine that was far from. 517 00:28:21,440 --> 00:28:25,240 Speaker 1: Ready unless it was ready and to do what it did. 518 00:28:26,160 --> 00:28:32,279 Speaker 4: Their role in what went wrong was critical, and it 519 00:28:32,319 --> 00:28:38,440 came about through some science. And when their models failed 520 00:28:38,720 --> 00:28:42,319 and were failing publicly and obviously, rather than come back 521 00:28:42,319 --> 00:28:44,319 with I'm sorry, they doubled down and said they were 522 00:28:44,319 --> 00:28:47,519 now going to turn their models on the disease of 523 00:28:47,599 --> 00:28:51,519 police brutality. And it was at this point that I said, 524 00:28:52,160 --> 00:28:56,279 you mean what like Floyd nineteen And my follow up 525 00:28:56,319 --> 00:28:59,839 tweet was an extended quote that I had pulled from 526 00:28:59,880 --> 00:29:04,039 the CDC on a study that I pulled from their servers, 527 00:29:04,160 --> 00:29:08,920 and it was a retrospective historical analysis of the impacts 528 00:29:08,920 --> 00:29:14,400 of quarantine. And what they said was that in all ages, 529 00:29:14,440 --> 00:29:20,079 in all cultures, and everywhere, all cultures, all ages, and everywhere, 530 00:29:20,640 --> 00:29:25,720 quarantine ends with race riots. And I quoted that, put 531 00:29:25,720 --> 00:29:28,839 the quotes around it, tested it myself, pulled the quote, 532 00:29:29,400 --> 00:29:33,000 threw it into Google, took me right to CDC property, 533 00:29:33,319 --> 00:29:38,160 CDC dot gov. There I am That tweet was called racist, 534 00:29:38,480 --> 00:29:40,240 and what we had we got our race wars. 535 00:29:40,279 --> 00:29:42,039 Speaker 2: By the way, our race riots we did. 536 00:29:42,319 --> 00:29:45,880 Speaker 1: We got something else. The IHIME was funded by Bill Gates. 537 00:29:46,319 --> 00:29:48,000 Bill Gates at the time this was going on with 538 00:29:48,079 --> 00:29:50,640 spending and to some people this is a lot of money, 539 00:29:50,640 --> 00:29:53,079 four hundred million dollars to go get positive media coverag 540 00:29:53,079 --> 00:29:54,839 show he could be the Papa of the vaccines, the 541 00:29:54,960 --> 00:29:58,559 mRNA injections, which in my judgment are not vaccines. Then, Greg, 542 00:29:58,599 --> 00:30:02,799 we also had in in England. You mentioned the organization 543 00:30:02,839 --> 00:30:05,400 over there. I believe his name is Neil Ferguson is 544 00:30:05,480 --> 00:30:08,160 he was. He was wrong on mad cow disease. He's 545 00:30:08,200 --> 00:30:11,359 been wrong, monumented and always on aids, always in this, 546 00:30:11,640 --> 00:30:14,759 always in the direction of catastrophizing things. And remember this, 547 00:30:15,119 --> 00:30:19,279 he and his adulterous girlfriends went trapesing about London after 548 00:30:19,359 --> 00:30:24,000 positive tests. So this comes up and your scientific minds 549 00:30:24,440 --> 00:30:25,359 is looking at all this. 550 00:30:26,759 --> 00:30:30,200 Speaker 4: But I'm hanging in with Peter Gauchier, who was one 551 00:30:30,279 --> 00:30:33,799 of the co founders of the Cochrane Collaboration, who has 552 00:30:33,920 --> 00:30:37,799 publicly called out Bill Gates in his foundation and his 553 00:30:38,079 --> 00:30:43,319 HPV vaccine as being far from a good thing. And 554 00:30:43,359 --> 00:30:45,319 I'll keep you out of any kind of band turf. 555 00:30:45,839 --> 00:30:49,799 But when I had Peter out to my house. I 556 00:30:49,880 --> 00:30:54,359 knew that he had challenged the authorities on mammograms for everyone, 557 00:30:54,880 --> 00:30:59,319 starting with little girls, right and beneffective. He had called 558 00:30:59,359 --> 00:31:06,480 into a fact the science behind all psychoactive medications. He 559 00:31:06,720 --> 00:31:13,160 had specifically pointed out that antidepressants in pedes creates suicide 560 00:31:13,319 --> 00:31:16,400 in significant numbers. And so this is my buddy I'm 561 00:31:16,400 --> 00:31:20,200 hanging with. And I told him, dude, you're gonna. 562 00:31:19,920 --> 00:31:22,480 Speaker 2: Get whacked, and he did. 563 00:31:23,079 --> 00:31:25,119 Speaker 4: He did, They got rid of him, and he was 564 00:31:25,160 --> 00:31:31,599 accused nefariously, nebulously of improper contact and attitude and comments 565 00:31:31,599 --> 00:31:35,000 around women, but with no particulars ever to come about. 566 00:31:35,880 --> 00:31:37,559 Speaker 2: And we had guys like Gai and I and not. 567 00:31:37,680 --> 00:31:39,160 He's saying, I may not. 568 00:31:39,160 --> 00:31:42,079 Speaker 4: Agree with Peter on everything. That's John being a I 569 00:31:42,119 --> 00:31:43,880 may not agree with him on everything. You don't agree 570 00:31:43,880 --> 00:31:46,799 with anyone on everything, So that doesn't need saying. What 571 00:31:46,839 --> 00:31:49,160 he's saying is there's views he has that I would 572 00:31:49,279 --> 00:31:50,279 prefer not to be. 573 00:31:50,200 --> 00:31:51,119 Speaker 2: Have pinned on me. 574 00:31:51,640 --> 00:31:54,119 Speaker 4: And that would be most of them, honestly, like the 575 00:31:54,240 --> 00:31:58,759 question on mammograms, like the HPV vaccine, like the vaccine 576 00:31:58,839 --> 00:32:00,240 industry in general. 577 00:32:00,240 --> 00:32:01,839 Speaker 2: Right on and on and on. 578 00:32:02,240 --> 00:32:05,039 Speaker 4: But Ian Otti said he's the most important medical researcher 579 00:32:05,079 --> 00:32:08,160 in all of Europe. He didn't matter, he got sense, 580 00:32:08,319 --> 00:32:12,200 he got censored, and then John got his. John paid his, 581 00:32:12,839 --> 00:32:16,839 he got he's been he's been semi banished to the hinterlands. 582 00:32:16,960 --> 00:32:20,279 Speaker 1: You were watching this with these cloudracobra people. I was 583 00:32:20,359 --> 00:32:23,200 watching it from a perspective of media. And I'll tell 584 00:32:23,200 --> 00:32:25,119 you something, Greg, I never thought I would see this day. 585 00:32:25,200 --> 00:32:27,799 I'll never forget this in morning radio. Those two doctors 586 00:32:27,839 --> 00:32:30,319 from Bakersfield, California, remember this. They held a press conference 587 00:32:30,880 --> 00:32:32,680 and all they said was, look, none of this makes 588 00:32:32,720 --> 00:32:36,119 any sense. They said, the CDC has the biggest largest 589 00:32:36,160 --> 00:32:40,400 meta analysis of analysis on masks, six studies forty eight years, 590 00:32:40,440 --> 00:32:43,599 including a trip to Mecca. Masks don't stop the transmission 591 00:32:43,880 --> 00:32:46,559 of upper respiratory viruses. That's a conclusion from the CDC. 592 00:32:47,039 --> 00:32:50,440 They had the lockdown thing. They mentioned that quarantines, we 593 00:32:50,480 --> 00:32:52,240 have the Spanish food. They went through all this, and 594 00:32:52,240 --> 00:32:54,359 then they said the death rate from this is a 595 00:32:54,440 --> 00:32:57,400 survival rates ninety nine point eight four percent. Unless you're 596 00:32:57,400 --> 00:32:59,640 super sick and super old and super fat. This isn't 597 00:32:59,640 --> 00:33:00,960 going to kee you. 598 00:33:01,000 --> 00:33:01,359 Speaker 2: Greg. 599 00:33:01,519 --> 00:33:03,880 Speaker 1: I saw that press conference. I went to my producer 600 00:33:04,000 --> 00:33:07,079 grabbed this and he's grabbing it and he gets to 601 00:33:07,119 --> 00:33:09,359 Mayerga's todd. They just took it down. It was down 602 00:33:10,200 --> 00:33:12,160 Facebook and we had to chase it and get to 603 00:33:12,279 --> 00:33:15,440 Bitshoot to get it. And I'm looking at this watching 604 00:33:15,480 --> 00:33:20,440 this happen. Here's where broken Science, I think can save 605 00:33:22,599 --> 00:33:29,119 academia lives is establishing what actually is science because I 606 00:33:29,240 --> 00:33:30,480 learned it's the science. 607 00:33:30,519 --> 00:33:30,759 Speaker 2: Greg. 608 00:33:31,039 --> 00:33:33,319 Speaker 1: I didn't know there was such a thing as the science. 609 00:33:33,640 --> 00:33:37,000 But let's start with what is. Isn't there some process 610 00:33:37,079 --> 00:33:40,000 or something and take us through the Broken Science Institute. 611 00:33:40,000 --> 00:33:40,759 Speaker 2: What you're doing. 612 00:33:42,720 --> 00:33:46,000 Speaker 4: Defining science is critical, and it would shock you to 613 00:33:46,079 --> 00:33:51,119 find out how few people, even amongst scientists, can give 614 00:33:51,160 --> 00:33:55,519 any kind of reasonable sense of what science is. And 615 00:33:56,039 --> 00:33:59,680 that's a national tragedy. The sad part of that is 616 00:33:59,680 --> 00:34:06,359 that it's it's really crazy, simple, wonderfully elegant, and you know, 617 00:34:07,240 --> 00:34:12,039 you resist, everyone resists a quick nap conversion of that. 618 00:34:12,519 --> 00:34:15,199 But we need that in order to communicate to people 619 00:34:15,239 --> 00:34:18,280 what science is, because science is one of these endeavors 620 00:34:18,320 --> 00:34:21,079 that you cannot know science until you know what it 621 00:34:21,119 --> 00:34:24,800 isn't it may be it may be unique in that regard. 622 00:34:25,199 --> 00:34:28,559 I wouldn't tell you studying the clarinet to know how 623 00:34:28,599 --> 00:34:30,039 it's not like the French horn. 624 00:34:31,039 --> 00:34:33,599 Speaker 2: Maybe I've got that wrong, maybe it is that way. 625 00:34:33,960 --> 00:34:37,719 Speaker 4: But in the space of science, we find ourselves committing 626 00:34:37,760 --> 00:34:40,440 an inordinate amount of effort to making sure that everyone 627 00:34:40,519 --> 00:34:44,880 understands what science isn't. And so are you asking me 628 00:34:44,920 --> 00:34:47,679 to take that jump to give the quick because and 629 00:34:48,000 --> 00:34:51,039 it's kind of fun, dude. I almost hate doing it 630 00:34:51,119 --> 00:34:55,159 because I like asking people, especially in groups, what science is. 631 00:34:55,840 --> 00:34:58,440 And this isn't my parlor trick. I learned this from 632 00:34:58,440 --> 00:35:01,000 my own man watching him do it. But you can 633 00:35:01,000 --> 00:35:02,760 take a room full of scientists and ask them what 634 00:35:02,800 --> 00:35:04,800 science is and put it on the board, accept everything 635 00:35:04,840 --> 00:35:08,239 they give you. Now throw astronomy an astrology up and 636 00:35:08,280 --> 00:35:10,119 my dad would take the role of the astrologer. And 637 00:35:10,159 --> 00:35:12,760 I'm now going to accept everyone's definition that you've put 638 00:35:12,840 --> 00:35:14,639 up here, element by element and tell you how it 639 00:35:15,599 --> 00:35:18,880 is exactly what I do is an astrologer. And the 640 00:35:18,920 --> 00:35:21,800 truth is, until you put that lineup of the predictive 641 00:35:21,840 --> 00:35:25,280 strength of your models, until you see that you have 642 00:35:25,400 --> 00:35:29,360 not found the demarcation, and that philosophically is critical if 643 00:35:29,360 --> 00:35:32,840 anyone's going to take anything away at all, is that 644 00:35:33,119 --> 00:35:41,079 science earns our trust, science finds validation, Science holds its 645 00:35:41,119 --> 00:35:44,960 objectivity in the predictive strength of its models.