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that we love oh so much. Dad about it? Jared?
Were you down at pro day, by the way, were
you down there taking a taking a gander? What did
you make of the performances from the BAU Football Pro Day?
Speaker 2: Well, I'll tell you what bor Obama is fast it
was fun to see. I mean, he was quick. I
think everybody did pretty well. It was niceaty Chase Roberts
get out there and up his stock and get it
four or five to one in his forty I thought
he did real well with that. Yeah, Tanner Wall showed
out real well. I mean his shuttle time was better
than everybody at the combine, right, all the other safeties.
Speaker 1: Yeah, what was the official shuttle time for him?
Speaker 2: I don't know off the top of my head.
Speaker 1: I'll pull it up here. I was. Let me do
some due diligence here. I think I got my list
here somewhere. But so he had a great performance, is
what you're saying.
Speaker 2: Wall He did, he did real well. Yeah, And I
think you know. And I was able to spend some
time with Kevin Gilbright. I mean, if anybody knows NFL talent,
Kevin definitely does. And Kevin was telling me that the
Carson Ryan and Tanner Wall are these guys that have
the opportunity if they get on the right teams. They're
eight to ten year guys if they get the right opportunity.
And it was fun to kind of discuss that with him,
and I apologize for a little loud. I'm over at
Frost City Tattoo. I'm under the gun right now. And hey,
I wanted to throw out there that these guys have
an event going on tomorrow with Juju Smith Schuster will
be out at a Frost City Tattoo in Midvale for
three hours tomorrow morning from nine to twelve doing an
event with Fred out here.
Speaker 1: They've done some.
Speaker 2: Collaborations, Yeah, some good stuff going on. But yeah, Prod,
it was fun. It was a lot of fun to
see the guys, and it was fun to see what
gag back as well. I think that was a really
good move on the part of by you would allow him
to come back and perform. Will Farron is knocking a
field goals that literally would have been good from seventy yards.
Just crazy and yeah, just a lot of fun to
see the guys them out and and perform in front
of all these scouts.
Speaker 1: Dude, who had the best day? Do you think out
of all the bau Cougars.
Speaker 2: Well, I think more up to Stock more than anybody else.
Just just that forty time alone, just I think that
skyrocked you rocket you up in the eyes of of
the scouts. I didn't get to see them throw. I
had to leave before they started throwing. But from from
the running the weightlifting, I will say this, man. You know,
I back in my day when we were doing our
two twenty fives, I did do seventeen reps to twenty five,
which will put me in a pretty good category.
Speaker 1: That's funny, dude, you did You did seventeen. So what
was your weight at that time?
Speaker 2: What? Eighty five?
Speaker 1: That's awesome, dude, that's funny. So I did seventeen at
my pro day as well, and you know, I thought
I was like, hey, I was probably at like one
to eighty eight at the time. So you got long
arms too, that's pretty good. But you got massive hands,
so you stay.
Speaker 2: That wasn't I wasn't in a produce unfortunately. That was
just our mac that that was your max out. Yeah,
that was that was our out.
Speaker 1: Did you do? Were your feet grounded and was your
butt on the bench the entire time?
Speaker 2: Yeah? No, we had guys watching it.
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, we were the seventeen that's I mean, seventeen is ridiculous.
Seventeen is really really good for anybody then, especially under
one hundred and ninety pounds. Impressive work. Jared Bledsoe. So
you know, you mentioned that Jake Retchloff was there. Utah
fans around the country were in they they were they
were appalled. They were appalled that b YU would allow
Jake back to Provo Utah and allow him to throw
the football to former BYU cougars. They they said, this
is this is this is, this is so on brand
with BYU. You know, anything to you know, just let
a sinner come back and represent your school an accused rapists.
Give me your thoughts on this. All the Utah fans
on social media just havn't had having at it with
b YU and Jake Will.
Speaker 2: I mean, he beat him, you know, I beat him
handily at home, you know, And so they can't get
over that fact. And and I'll tell you what, man.
First of all, there was accusations that were all withdrawn.
So to even use to even use the term rapist
for with in his it doesn't even it shouldn't even
be used at all.
Speaker 1: He was as soon as you say that, and they
as soon as they as soon as you tell them that, though,
they're like, yeah, but he infringed on that honor code.
He disobeyed the owner. He had extramarital relations with.
Speaker 2: A woman, right right, he did, and he and he
suffered the consequences of not being able to play at
b YU last year. But the same thing Kolaney puts
out is that once a coupar, always at Cougar, and
his opportunity to get in front of the scouts was
better here at b YU for PROTA than it would
have been with anybody in tu Lanes, you know. So
and the fact that we're able to have our own
PRODA again is great. You know, there's no big twelve
protat This was all b YU and and BYU players,
and we had a few, you know, player Hinckley were potty.
I thought it amazing today, having been out of football,
you know, not getting his waiver last year. He looks,
I mean, the guy's shirt off and you're just like
chiseled out of granite, you know, and just just looks
really really good. And I really hope he gets a
shot somewhere because I think I think he'll turn some
heads in camp if he does.
Speaker 1: Yeah, Hinkley looked like one of the stripling warriors from
like our book of Mormon story days growing up, you
know that that poster like in everyone. Everyone's primary room,
the Stripling Warriors.
Speaker 2: I'm like that that b Yeah, that's great, great, but
I I yeah, it's it's going to be interesting to
see where guys get picked up and and just there's
a lot of opportunity for these guys moving forward and
and and then in the end, I was seeking you know,
as I was talking to some of the players today
that are that have come back, that could have gone
to the NFL this this year, and you know, they'll
be excited to do it next year. But I think
everybody is just really happy to still be here at
b YU.
Speaker 1: Yeah, why do you think that is? Why are they
so happy to be at b YU?
Speaker 2: Well, it's you know, And I asked that same thing
to kind of go Brady, So what do you think
it is, you know, getting everybody back, and he said
it should. The atmosphere here is different, and I think
the ability to make money definitely plays into that. And
these guys are starting to learn that. You know, when
football is it's called collegiate football. When you leave, it's gone,
it's gone forever, it's never coming back. And once you
make that step, it's you know, and so why not
be the big fish? For one more or year and
enjoy hanging out with your buddies, playing mad in your
in your in your probably not apartments anymore there, they
might even be in houses. Market there multiple cars out front,
and you know, so it's just it's just a different
opportunity for these guys now and and and it's a
lot of fun to see them come back and and
just be ready to go. I was at practice yesterday
as well, and and I'll tell you what, I think
things are starting to come together, uh for the team,
and it's fun to watch. And just just a lot
of talent, a lot of talent.
Speaker 1: Lots of talent, no, no doubt about it. Good culture too.
What what what stands out to about that Kilate culture
right now?
Speaker 2: Well, everybody seems happy to be here and happy to
compete and and happy to to just be part of
the of b YU itself. And you just don't get
that everywhere, you know you Uh. And in fact, I
think what Kevin gilbrid was telling me, who was at
UNC Charlotte, and he said, believe it or not, they
had a lot of money, and he said.
Speaker 1: That the guys there were more.
Speaker 2: Aggressive towards money than they here are here at BYU
that they're willing to take a little bit less because
they want to be part of this team. Wow, and
that's awesome and I think that's going to show out
on the field of next year.
Speaker 1: Love that dude. Really cool to hear that. Jared tell
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Speaker 1: Love that. What else have you been kind of pondering
regarding springball as we evaluate and we hear all of
the media reports coming out, some of the sound bites
we've delved into. What's did I do about Cantaloni twenty
twenty six so far?
Speaker 2: Well, obviously, the defenses is top notch, and the athletes
in our linebacker room I think is going to be
a top in the nation with the with the athletes
that we have there, and just seeing what the offense
is putting together and actually talking with Kevin about his
new his two new tight ends, he is very excited
about working with them and said they're both very coachable
and they have they both have Carson Ryan atribute his
senabilities and having two of them, imagine two Carson Ryan's,
It's it's going to be a game changer for our offense.
So excited to see what they can do.
Speaker 1: Speaking of Carson Ryan, do you feel like he up
to his draft stocks significantly moderately after his pro day performance?
Speaker 2: I mean, I think he did well. I think that
there's he's a game guy. Right where. It's what Kevin
was saying, it doesn't necessarily matter his what he does
on this pro days. He's that game guy where he
gets in the game and he makes plays and he's
the guy that you can count on. And he said,
that's why it's going to take the right team to
draft him and put him in the right situation. And
if they do, he thinks he's an eight to ten
year guy in the NFL with the right opportunity.
Speaker 1: I would love to see it. He's definitely a well rounded,
tied end. I hope he gets to know if he's
not draft, hopefully he's a high priority free agent and
carriage all out right and get a good deep situation, right,
you want to find a good situation.
Speaker 2: Uh.
Speaker 1: I feel like, you know, one of the snubs of
the NFL Combine, you can you could make an argument
like I mean, Tanner Wall was a big twelve All
Conference player and uh, you know, he had a lot
of stats. He was fantastic, Uh the last two three years.
I was a little bit surprised that he didn't get
the combine invite to get the Yeah, and so, uh
do you think he upped his draft stock with his
Pro day performance.
Speaker 2: Well, he looked great. And I think that some of
these guys that that that probably should have gotten called
a call to UH to the combine and didn't. I
think it showed today in their in their and their appearance.
I mean, he looked stolid, and just as he took
his shirt off, you're like, oh my gosh, you know,
these guys been working out and they're ready to go,
and they're impressive. And I think he took a little
bit of that to heart and and and took some
of that energy that into his pro day today to
really show them who he is. And and I think
he's got a lot of opportunity. It's just these these
guys need right That's the tack with the NFL. It's like,
you could be a standout player here in college, but
if you don't get the right opportunity with the right
team and the right scheme and the right coaches, you
could be the best athlete on the team that you
weren't playing for in college and you don't make it
in the NFL because of that. You know, So it's
really really important to get the right opportunities. But if
they do, these guys will be there for a while.
Speaker 1: Jared bledsoe, lady and gentlemen, talk to some BYU football
here on your Utah ESPN Radio network. A couple of
last things before I let you go, and and you know,
got to get your thoughts. As a former wide receiver.
Do you think Chase Roberts is going to get drafted?
If so, what round do you think he goes?
Speaker 2: You know, I, after or after the combat, I would
have said maybe not. I think he's more free agent.
But having pulled a four to five one, I you know,
his second time, he ran a four or five to
one both both times exactly, you know, so I was
I was hoping he'd break into that four four nine range.
I think that really would have upped him. But I
mean a four to five to one to a four
or five nine or four four nine is not very
much difference. So I wish I could have seen him
catch balls today and and and seen that. But we
know he's got great hands.
Speaker 1: Uh.
Speaker 2: Do I think he's gonna be in the in the draft?
If he isn't, he'll be a high round draftic in
my opinion, a six or seventh round guy, or or
it may be advantageous for him to go in as
a free agent and and have that opportunity as well.
But he's going to get an opportunity somewhere. He's just
too big, and he did he had too good of
stats at BYU did not get a shot. And I
just hope he goes in there and he gets real
aggressive and and it wipes away the nice guy mentality
that he does on his podcast and and just goes
lights out and and gets to you know, I love
that podcast, but it's you know, when it comes to football,
it's time to crack down and and and get after it,
you know. And I think he will. He knows that
he's an athlete.
Speaker 1: He knows as no. Austin's been trying to work with him,
you know, over the last few years to bring out
that dog. I've having a conversation with g Man, Brandon Gurney,
you know g Man, and and he's like, well, you know,
give me your thoughts on Chase. I'm like, if if
he finds that dog, that inner dog in him, like
where he just wants to to take someone's job from them,
he wants to when he crossed the line, He's like,
you know, set aside. You know, you know, I'm not
saying your morals and ethics by any means, I'm just saying, like,
set aside, like your your christ like nature for a minute,
and just go get in that zone.
Speaker 2: Get in that zone where no one's gonna be no
one could take you off the ball and get scrappy,
you know, sho shove a guy. You know. It's kind
of like I kind of wanted to coach Young to
get a technical, you know, to fire up his basketball team.
Sometimes you need a little bit of that, you know
what I mean to get would benefit Chase to do
that a little bit.
Speaker 1: By the way, is be football score or basketball school?
More so football score or basketball school.
Speaker 2: You think, come on, come on football all day, you know,
although we'll spend more money on less people in basketball,
but it's going to take some time. Uh, you know,
they got to prove that it's worth the money. Right now,
I would say that football is definitely a dominant having
proved what we did in the in the off season
as well. So had b why you made the Sweet
sixteen in basketball? I think it would have changed things.
But no, we're still a football school. We got we
got some work to do to become for basketball to
catch up. To us.
Speaker 1: Yeah exactly. Uh uh who whose payroll do you think
was bigger? The basketball team or the football teams? Like
from a player stand, well players for half of that, right, yeah, yeah, player,
player payroll versus versus. Yeah, so player.
Speaker 2: Payroll basketball, which I don't really know the stats on
what everybody's just from ideas of who's making kind of what.
In football, there's nobody making what ajamids, you know, by
any means. And then you've got a handful of guys
that are in the million category and there's you know,
so I think that basketball spend a lot of money,
you know, and hopefully they can figure out away and
hopefully AJ's mom tells them that it's time to stay
for one more year. Have been proved that you're you
can take the team to the Sweet sixteen.
Speaker 1: So saca loc we'd love to see it, So I
doubt that we'll see Probably not gonna happen. Uh. UTP
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Speaker 2: Thanks man. All right, have a good day. Listen.
Speaker 1: Yes, sir, we're live from Oreum Toyota. I got Logans
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anything that you want to chime in on from the
topics we broached.
Speaker 5: Yeah, you know, I mean, as far as you know
Pro Day goes everything like that, I think that that
is awesome that they give Jake that opportunity to come back.
You know, I think the circumstances with with with everything
that goes on, with everything went on, I mean, there's
no reason why he couldn't do that, right, Yeah, I
mean you saw that there, you know, up North you
saw Bryce and Barnes actually come down to the team
up Norse.
Speaker 1: Pro Day as well.
Speaker 4: So I think I think that's that's pretty common.
Speaker 1: But I don't think anyone had an issue with like
him coming back after going to like Tulane. I think
it's the the honor code, it's the the accusations that
were made that were ultimately.
Speaker 5: But again but again it was like you know what,
what's the difference between him staying and going to Tulane.
Speaker 4: Right, he would have been able to play a year later.
Speaker 1: Yeah, he would have been playing. He just would have
had a suspension at bau right.
Speaker 5: So that's that's that's you know, I'm not gonna I'm
not gonna knock him for that.
Speaker 4: Good for him as far as being able to showcase
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Speaker 2: Uh.
Speaker 1: He's so quick, he's so fleet of foot. He's strong too.
He's a finisher. He can score. Did he show up
as we needed to and needed him to in late
games and late opportunities U of a game the NCAA
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two possession ball game. Probably not, because he would four
shots and he shots blocked, or he lose the ball,
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you would like Tanner over those two others. But do
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Speaker 4: He gets you out of the first round.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I don't know.
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Speaker 1: Let's get out to the hotline for our Cougar b
Welcome to Cougar Sports Insider representing vanquish the foe. We got,
Robbie McCombs all that. I'm Robbie. How you living?
Speaker 2: Thanks? Ben?
Speaker 3: You know I've been better, but you know, hanging in
there after after yesterday.
Speaker 1: Yeah, Like I'm reading through your tweets right now, I'm
gonna retweet all of these kind of postgame commentaries you said,
disappointing to have the season end this way, but not
feeling as down as maybe I expected. AJ was incredibly
complimentary about BYU and his experience after the game. He
will be a great ambassador for BYU. BYU will have
the resources to build a good roster next season, and
Ky has learned a lot about roster construction. So, uh,
you know everyone's talking about roy right. You know, through
this process we've discussed, Hey, did did b YU get
their r O I did their donor base get their
roy on it? I believe they did. From a branding standpoint,
from a marketability standpoint, from a public relations standpoint, b
YU is becoming more of a household name in the
mouths of analysts and pundits and and and maybe amongst recruits,
et cetera. So and you got a great brand about sure,
you mentioned it right there, a great ambassard. And I
think he's going to be first overall in the NBA draft.
And you know what, wouldn't be surprised if the somehow,
some way he ended up with the Jazz. We'll see
what happens. And it sounds like you're on lockstep with
me here.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I think I mostly agree. I mean I I
wrote before this Sason, even before aj committed, like the
reason Boosters wanted AJ, I mean one they wanted a
chance to take Buyu to unpressited Heights buy Hat in
the four. I mean everybody wanted to bad get a
chance to get the final four. So from that, I
mean b A, b A didn't get that.
Speaker 2: But the other big.
Speaker 3: Reason Boosters did is what AJ wouldn't mean to b YU.
And this is where I think the lasting impact of
AJ will always be. I mean the Boosters wanted AJ
because that's going to open doors for BA to get
other players. I mean not just in basketball. Like the
thought prof was he A J. Devonsa can choose b Yu.
Why can't star football player come to b Yu? Why
can't future star basketball players.
Speaker 2: Come to b YU? And b YU just.
Speaker 3: Has a reputation among a lot of people outside the city.
You taugh on people the arn't members of the faith historically,
University people don't know a lot about b Yu. Said,
AJ broke down a lot of barriers that way, grow
up his whole life nothing to do with Byu obviously,
then went to Utah prep for year, came to BYU.
So from that perspective and then what he then what
he will do in the NBA, I think, I mean
he's going to be a star NBA player. I mean
could he be the face of American basketball and in
five years like he could be. I mean we've and
we've already seen the recruiting impacts like Bruce Branch doesn't
come to b YU if if AJ isn't, they're like
AJ opened the door and then just like the brand
equity that's going to be there for AJ, especially as
long as k K.
Speaker 1: Why is that by?
Speaker 3: So I think that perspective, it definitely did and we'll
see how like I guess truly impactful a J is
to by because I look a guy like some of
John kla Party's guys at Kentucky, like the Devin Bookers,
the John Walls, the DeMarcus Cousins, like the DeAndre fox Is,
Like are they really I don't know how connected the
arts at Kentucky.
Speaker 2: The more connected to John Calipari.
Speaker 3: So it's like, yep, well will ajb whenever aj K Wiley.
So whether it's two years, five years, ten years, fifteen years,
whatever may be. But I think one thing is helps
in by savorite Kentucky. I mean, you don't get and
there's no NBA teams next to Kentucky. So AJ, I
mean if he plays on the Jazz Obviously he'll always
be in Utah, but every year, one or two times
this season, he'll always come back to Utah. He'll always
get a big reception from BYU fans, so he'll always
have that connection, whether Kevin.
Speaker 2: Young is at BYU or not.
Speaker 3: So I do think the investment was worth it. I mean,
granted it's not my money, but I do think just
with that Bran, I mean no doubt it's disappoining on
the floor, and there was injuries and all that's in
the context, but we all hoped for a lot more
on the floor than we did this year. But for
like the other parts of what AJ could do, just
for like the perception of BYU for future recruiting, which
we've already seen. And then if he can always be
tied to Boy his whole NBA career, and if he
becomes like one of the faces of American and global basketball,
like I think there will be lots of There could
be lots of really good positive impacts because of that.
Speaker 1: Robbie, you said that by you had injuries, but arguably
the most disappointing season in BYU history, Agent was phenomenal.
Bo You always have agent as a part of Kuger Nation,
but no one, no one other way to characterize this season.
Is this the most disappointing season in BAU basketball history.
Speaker 3: I mean, I guess obviously, I think in the factor
in expectations. Obviously ninety six ninety seven blow you won
one game that season, So I mean Beeri's had much
worse teams than this year. But I mean people were
hoping for Final four, get at least the Sweet sixteen.
Speaker 2: Elite eight type one.
Speaker 3: So on the fourth expectations, I think it's you could
definitely make the argument. I don't know, like what if
I would say it's number one, So on the four,
I mean, it's definitely a conversation. But I think if
you look at the off the four stuff, I think
I mean, Kevin Durant lost in the second round of
the NCAA tournament his year, so he got he did
get one round further. But I mean he's still tied
to Texas this day. And I don't know how much
recurring impact necessarily has to that, but he's always tied
to Texas. I think there's a lot of equity in that,
and I think it's especially different for BYU just because
none of those schools like Kentucky the Texas is like
where those top players have gone too, like they didn't
really necessarily have like a perception that needed to be
broken down. Like Bius is just different because of like
the whole lds Engle and how the rest of many
of the rest of the country and like black athletes
can view BYU. So you have AJ, who could like
be one of the most premier athletes in the world,
will always have AJ tied to him. I think it
means more to b Yu because people I mentioned that before,
people will bring up like the Anthony Edwards argument, Anthony
Edwards went to Georgia, no one considers and no one
really thinks about, oh, Georgia basketball when they think Anthony
Edwards like that. But I think it's different for b
Yu just because by us just just people just don't
just it's viewed in such a different light and just
the barriers AJ broke down. So I think it's it's
a it's a failure in terms of like on the court,
what could have been but for that, like what we
saw AJ, what AJ could do for BYU, Like like
when I take that and if I take everything into account,
like I don't think it is because well, like what
it could and has already done for like breaking ming
is a program, and then like the institution.
Speaker 1: Robbie mccomb's bank was the faux Banka was THEEFO dot com.
You were at the game, you went out, and you
were part of the media scrums, et cetera. What were
your main takeaways from the maybe the pregame, uh conversations,
in the postgame conversations.
Speaker 3: Yeah, pre game, I mean we've been seeing a couple
of weeks. In the Big twelve tournament, Kevin Young was
and I think it was authentic. He was really trying.
Speaker 6: To show optimism that hey, like starting with the Texas
Tech game the Big twelve Tournament, Like, yeah, I turned
a quarter, the defense definitely improved.
Speaker 4: Lost to Houston, but.
Speaker 3: And again that was the third game in three days,
and by you still gave a fight, so UAU definitely
like there was definitely that Kevin. I think Kevin I
was kind of just trying to forced force that mind
mindset on the team. I think there was part of that,
but I don't know, Like the I mean, I can't
say I thought one thing or the other. Like the
vibe seemed find of the team before, like the media,
the players like, and then post game like it was
a little more upbeat than I thought it would be,
like like we they seeing the clips out there, and
I was like Aj was talking about BYU, like again,
who knows well happened? Like when he leads by maybe,
I mean, maybe he'll never want anything to do with BUYU, Like.
Speaker 2: I don't know.
Speaker 3: I think I think he truly seemed genuine of his
like how much he's really enjoyed BYU, like not just
the basketball assic but the community, the experience of Stanley
has had.
Speaker 2: That was cool to see.
Speaker 3: I mean, Kay said after the game, like, I mean,
obviously they're disappointed, but I just he was proud that
those players chose to come to BYU and all lot
of them from different circumstances and to represent the university.
Speaker 2: So there was a lot of that.
Speaker 3: And I also get the sense I think I kind
of feel deep down like Kevin once Richie went down,
Like Kevin Young knew this team had a ceiling I
think going into like they hope they can make the
Sweet sixteen, But Kevin Young knew once I mean there
was cracks when Richie, I mean that team was has struggled,
but with Richie this team could have could have made
a run despite some of the defense efficiency, just because
have that much high level talent. I think deep down,
Kevin and new as their ceiling that kind of fell
after He's I think he has ideas where he wants
to build this team next year. Like he I mean,
he mentioned, like shooting's going to be a main priority,
Like I think, if it's not a five man Bwey's
not going to consider someone that can't shoot the basketball
really well, that's going to be I mean, he also
mentioned like being it's to get a more rugged big
man in this league, so someone who's like a little
bit bigger, someone who could bang a little bit more.
And and that I mean that came to a weird,
its ugly head in the Texas game is gonna absolutely
dominated in the glass, and we saw it during the season,
Like I mean, the really the best teams in college
basketball have a really good size, Like Arizona's got really
good bigs, Florida's the one Sea, they got really good
big Michigan they're one seed. They got as big as
any team, Duke's got Cam Boozer, and another they got
really good.
Speaker 2: Big Yukon's big Houston's got good bigs.
Speaker 3: So I think, boy, like I need a lot of streaming.
I think Kevin realizes too. It's like, hey, like in
college basketball even more so like NBA's spacing League, and
that's true at any level of basketball. I think he realized, like,
we need a little bit more, we need more size
guys that could being a little bit. So I kind
of got the sense too that he's I mean, he's
already I think, not that he's lost focus in all
this season. We especially when you have AJ, but the
staff they've been kind of already knowing I think how
they kind of want to do a different roster construction
next year. And I got that sense to like he's
really ready to hit the ground running this obviously, and
I do think even with some of the discipline myself
think the resources will be there from the Boosters. I
think Billy will have good l and money to be
competitive to get the players that they need. So obviously
we'll see how that shakes out. But that was kind
of my sense appening. Obviously disappointed, but I think he's
I don't think it is name as much swallowing from
him and he's gonna he's knows the type of guys
and even specific players he's gonna want to hit once
the portal opens here in a couple of weeks.
Speaker 1: Well, what do you think is the most like valid
grip in this season? Right? I mean we all we gave.
I think the Coular nation understands the six season ending
injuries and three priority players starters rotational guys, and Nate
Pickens he was the start of it, right, and then
a Dawson Baker what seven or so games in, and
then obviously the Todd King Richie Saunders. I mean, you can't,
you can't plan on these things. It was really difficult,
and then you had to thrust some of your bench
into starting roles and all those things. So like, let's
let's put that aside here, b why you struggled in
the first half all season long? Some people gripe about,
you know, maybe lack of rebounding, maybe the schematics employed
offensively but especially defensively. One of the other gripes I've
heard is like, how is it that all of our
bigs regressed from last year to this year? A high
low regress, keba regress. You brought in Bedo. He maybe
regressed during the season too, like he started off probably
better than he ended up finishing. In some ways, Hadeem
is maybe the only guy, but like I still get
him more as on like a three four than I
look at him as like a four man. Anyways, give
give me, like what are valid gripes right now for
the Cougar Nation if you will.
Speaker 3: I remember before this season, I wrote, obviously, I think
everyone was optimistic going into the year, even before obviously
beforecasted any injuries, like I did have concerns of like
hey this bo, you have enough shooting on this roster,
like they had AJ. Rob shot better than expect Like
he shot seven thirty percent last year big twelve play.
This year he shot forty forty three percent for the
whole season, So that was big.
Speaker 2: So BIOI had Boy, had.
Speaker 3: Richie and they had Dawson. I was like, hey, is
there enough like spacing like around AJ to get what
k I really wanted this offense and they got it.
Got three to begin like when you had Dawson, Like
we saw that Yukon game, like he did really good
the Miami game, like he had some like big games there.
Dawson literally helped the four spacing, but then kind of
went he went out, things could really just focus on
Richie kind of on the perimeter. So I think I
mean the offense was I mean, like the metric, especially
for which he went.
Speaker 2: Out was great.
Speaker 3: Like they had times where they struggled, but oh, overall
it was more of a defensive defense issue. But I
think they I mean Tyler Morass, they didn't pay a
lot for him, but he didn't pound out at all
what they had hoped for. He was a lot better
shooter at Idaho and just didn't translate to the Big Twelve.
Coaches kind of they'd expected zero from coaches. He was
kind of forced into it. You know, had his moments,
which was which was good to see, but I mean
the lack of shooting. I think they think they could
have used another and I think Canard Davis probably it
just didn't fit the role he had, Like he wasn't
like a spot up shooter at Southern Illinois and they
wanted to be a three and D guy and.
Speaker 2: That that's not what he was.
Speaker 3: Like he had his times where he'd get hot from
three still a few games in the Big Twelve tournament,
but he probably looking he probably wasn't the best fit
for that, Like I wrote, they could have like there
was a transfer from North Carolina Katee tay in here
they kind of looking at he didn't do much last year,
but he had averaged about twenty prigad at Belmont before
that this year for North Carolina six seven wing this
year start he transferred to Minnesota, averaged twenty points a
shot over forty percent from three XK. BUA had k
Tyson instead mood Davis. Like, man, that's some amazing spacing
on there, so and that's probably looking back, they probably
could have done something over there. And then I think
the defense for sure, I mean that was ultimately bua's downfall.
But when you look like Bo's defense and non conference
was actually really good, like that's the BUA you started
the season sixteen and one, it's because that like looking
like their defense was good, like in non in non conference,
like they did a good job versus Miami, they did
a god job versus Villa Nova. They had Wisconsin one
of the best offenses in the country to seventy points.
So they did really good. And I think some of
those injuries, like it forced buy to change their scheme
like when Buoy had more depth, Like Buoy was pressuring
a lot more. They did a lot of three quarters
court type pressure. For aj was at the top of that.
His length really disrupted defense, says the really Ones. Dawson
kind of went down b A tightened up the rotation,
and they kind of changed their defensive scheme kind of
out of necessity, like the end of the season, and
then there was no way, like you could kind of
do that type of defensive pressure and play a J
and Rob thirty eight thirty nine minutes. I mean they
you risk, I mean they tire out, You risk injuries
to their body that way, and Bill like you never
really adjusted. But at the end of the year. They
have obviously had some good games in the Big Twelve tournament,
but defense needs to get a lot better. In the
first two years that's been ba used down for like
La Shriba made the Sweet.
Speaker 2: Sixteen obviously great.
Speaker 3: Season, but defense was ultimately their downfall in the Alabama
game and then this game they couldn't rebound of defense.
So like, I'm gonna have to figure out some defense
a little more. I think k White is kind of
figuring out the defense in college, like it's not just
a total spacing game like you got college big so
we're really really rugged bigging in the paint. So I
think because he's gonna I think our big men approach
will be a little bit different next season. He's gonna
try to crew guys that can shoot, also guys with
links I could defend, so the long wouldn't answer the defense,
like the main thing something that's k why is going
to prove that he could to build a staff and defense.
That defense is gonna you don't need to be Houston
because Bo's identity is going to be offense, and you
can win his offensive first team in college basketball, but
you're gonna need to be probably a top twenty type
defensive team, like a really good defensive team to go
with what.
Speaker 2: He hopes to be an elite offense.
Speaker 3: So I say defense number one.
Speaker 2: And then the lack of shooters.
Speaker 3: I think that I mean, especially the nf season after
the injuries, I think those are kind of like two
things that I kind of hat hng my head, like
a little with hindsight at Bou could have could have done,
plan builded better.
Speaker 1: Is there any concern that you have for like these
injuries at all, you know, I'm in I'm kind of
in the worth of worth beatic sports medicine space, and
I'm like, oh, man, are these contact? Are they non
contact injuries? Many of them? Some of them will contact?
Speaker 2: Right?
Speaker 1: I don't know about the Nate Pickens injury, right, that
was kind of before everything. You know, Brodie Koslowski, what's
up with him saving State and we never really got
to see him. I don't know if there's been any
sort of clarity, but he had Dawson and Richie both
with acls, executing moves they've probably done hundreds of thousands
of times in their career. Is there some question marks
about how we're maybe you know, prehabing potentiation stuff prior
to tip off the day prior with some fatigue there,
especially when you have two semi non contact acls.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean you probably speak to this better than
I can. But I mean I think when I think
of some of the situation Dawson, I mean, who knows,
but I think he's coming off too really big foot
and foot surgeries he never really fully recovers from, and
this offseason like he wasn't playing at all, Like he
finally had a couples for the season he was finally
starting to play. I think they're kind of they're hoping
to slow play him, and then right before the season,
like there was a week before the season they were
looking at Nate Pickens's ankle during practice. He's kind of
packing through. They would hope it would kind of come around,
and then right before the season they're okay, he needs
season ending surgery.
Speaker 2: So the hope was that.
Speaker 3: Dawson's minutes and non conference play would be a lot
lower than they ended up being, just so he could
kind of ramp up a little bit. He didn't have
the full off season of prep, He's coming off those
foot surgeries, and he could kind of more glide into it.
What Nate Pickens take some of those minutes, and they
got Nate Pickens out, So I think, I mean, maybe
they did a handle that differently. But I think I mean,
on one hand, Dawson's if he feels like he could play,
he's not gonna say no, I can't play. So I
think that definitely factored into it, Like he's just like
and then if he does come again back to BYU
as well, he's sewing You're not gonna have to count
on a lot. It's like, hey, like Dawson, we gave
you a little bit of money, probably more money you
can make out in the working gold right now, and
then whatever your role is, your role is like that's
probably comes out. So I think Dawson's injuries, I mean Richie,
I mean, he just plays so dang hard. I mean,
it's just it just kind of feels one of those
fluky type things. I mean, Dawson's kind of I mean,
and Brody's had a couple like last year, he season
ended earlier this year and he had the kind of
lower lake injury, never really got healthy. So it's like,
I mean, I'm not going to speculate his I don't
know what his health like bone everything situation is. And
then say on the slender guy could never really get healthy,
and then Nate I think, I mean, I think he
should be good next year. So I mean, I don't
think can be quite nice to did anything wrong. I
think there's something there's like some of the background with Dawson,
I think some of the other stuff just like it's
just unfortunately kind of turned out the way it did.
Speaker 1: Robin McCombs ladies and gentlemen, Uh, you know, one of
my my listeners here text and be saying that there
needs to be an eval of the defense schematics the
last two years. Is it culture? Is it players? Is it?
Is it scheme employement? I mean how much self scout
do you think they're going to be doing on that
side of things in the offseason regarding the coaching staff
and what's being employed and what's being coached.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean I think it's definitely make sure of both.
I mean, first, you need the guys. I think one thing,
k Why always wants to brim protector, and they had
Kiba there, but I mean it's the sixth eighth guy.
I mean, he's really good, like kind of secondary helper,
and I mean we saw him seeing the blocks in
his career, some incredible blocks. But I think we're he's
going to rehaul the front court this offseason, so I
think that will be a big one. I mean, and
I think they'll try to get some true three and
D guys. I mean they tried to kind of force
Cannard into it. I think he was fine this year
on defense, but he can never really get the three
part down. And part of it too, believe like at
their offense is like a top five offense, that's naturally
going to help your defense because you you could build
leads that way and then to force his defenses can
maybe get away from how they want to play. So
I think that's part of k Why's philosophy. But I
think you'll see I think you'll see some staff restructuring too,
Like I'm expected everybody to run it back this year
because I may think, like you got AJ coming in,
and the hope was like, Hey, this is going to
be our golden ticket boot to have all this sex.
Speaker 2: On the floor.
Speaker 3: We have two years of tutelageunder Ky. We can tie
our names to AJ and that will help in our
future professions. Some of that kind of worked out, like
they still have the connection with Ky and they with AJ.
But I think there will be some retooling in the
staff next year. I think, again this is just speculating,
but I mean guys like Wolvoye and Fanic, they have
they all their whole careers are outside of college. I
wouldn't be surprised at least one of those guys decided
to go. John Lenahan, Brandon Dunson, no tices to b before.
Now that age has gone, it's kind of an I
think it's a natural time for some guys to like, hey, like,
I don't think care where K isn't even letting you
guys go. I think guys some of the staff will
kind of just go other ways. I think I could
see Kay bring him another college assistant that kind of knows,
like just more about college defensive scheme. So I think
there'll be some scheme, But I think the big thing,
I mean, the biggest thing is always the dudes. You got,
Like you can only scheme so much. You got to
start with the guys, and then you got to and
then ka he does have to proof that BUE can be.
Speaker 2: A better defensive team.
Speaker 3: But I guess those are some of my thoughts of
how by you will address like their defense this offseason.
Speaker 1: Robin Mcombs, Ladies and gentlemen, Robbie, best way to support you,
what you do, how you do it. Thanks for hopping
on today for a little cougar beat and talking to
some Bayu hoops.
Speaker 2: Appreciate it.
Speaker 3: Ben, Yeah, I mean I've banguished the foe people could
read there. I'll probably have a talking to some agents
right now other people to kind of see what things
could look like for BYU and the portals this offseason.
So I'll have a piece like a kind of an
early prediction piece on what uyus kind of roster and
kind of planned this offseason will be. So look for
that coming soon. And yeah, you could support there. And
then Archie McCombs on.
Speaker 1: X, follow him on X and read him at Vanquish
the Foe. Robbie McCombs. Ladies and gentlemen, thanks so much, Robbie,
great content, as.
Speaker 4: Always appreciate that.
Speaker 2: I always good talking to you.
Speaker 1: They goo, that's Robbie McCombs Vanquished the Foe. Before we
close this out, look at this what Stephen A Smith
just piling on by you took this out. I can
say it now, he says. I didn't want to say
it before. I was never excited about him going to BYU,
not even a little bit. I was never excited about that.
You talk about a cat that had to carry the load,
it was definitely him. And then not only that, their
bench in terms of bench minutes bench productivity, they ranked
like three hundred and eighth in the nation at bau So.
But de Bonsa has been dealing with this all year.
I don't know why the hell he went to BYU. Personally,
it should have been somewhere else. That's just me, that's
Stephen A. Smith questioning why de Bonsa shows BYU today
on first take, Well, go to break. We'll them in
on the flip side and maybe talk with Brandon C.
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