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Billified the Bill Moran Podcast.
Speaker 1: Well, hello and welcome from the Connors Cave. We are
so happy to be a Bill's losings.
Speaker 2: Got jokes over. I gotta go Reg Greggs on you forget.
Speaker 1: Let's go oh Man the sad Patch fan because the
Patriots won and the only thing that's affected is their
pick in next year's.
Speaker 3: You know what, we kicked Buffalo's ass today. That's all
I gotta say. Right to the AFC. This loss could
have generational reverberations. Yeah, its loss for the Bills to
the Patriots.
Speaker 2: Could you have generational reverberations for the Patriots.
Speaker 4: It doesn't really affect us at all because we're still
in the top three.
Speaker 2: But you're not number one. You know, you don't hold
the draft hostage. We don't need the draft the receiver.
There's only a couple of quarterbacks in this draft though,
but it's not the point though. Somebody needs a quarterback
and you would have cold number one. You would have
been the driver's seat.
Speaker 5: You wouldn't humor so quickly he does because he knows
that was such a great opportunity for him to rip
on me. Because we were talking before we came on
the air. Is that Dan's mother in law?
Speaker 2: I think it was. Yes. Why do you you noticed
all the Patriots fans wearing bags of their hats? Yeah?
And she texts my wife, I don't want you didn't
just text me directly. You didn't want to bother me.
By the way, when did that bag get created? By
the way, about nine seconds ago, Danny did it? No? No, no,
after we were talking about it, story did you created?
Speaker 4: You did?
Speaker 2: That's the best, MA, for sure. Somebody upstairs bathroom, my wife,
his mom food, my wife.
Speaker 1: He comes downstairs because I got to get my mom
food and then runs to the bathroom. Like Kevin and
I look at each other and go what.
Speaker 2: My mother in law text my watch shows why do
they wear bags on their on their heads? And Beth goes,
I don't know how to answer this for my mother?
Could you answer this for I go? Yeah, because there
bears to be Patriots fans, but they want the owner.
Speaker 5: And he said, either you're so ugly they don't want
to You don't want to be seen if you're a fan.
Speaker 2: That's what she says. I know that's what it means.
What's you mean to wear it at a game.
Speaker 5: Yeah, so I thought it was a great advertinate for Kevin.
His great sense. He always say, you're so ugly, Greg,
you got to put a bag on your head.
Speaker 4: But no, he went, I want to be disrespectful in
your basement.
Speaker 3: I would never studio. I mean disrespectful in your house.
I can't do that.
Speaker 2: Oh my god, look at this.
Speaker 4: We were talking about it respectful. Last year. I went
outside and we beat the Bills out.
Speaker 1: She did, he did last year. But actually, you sitting
I kicked.
Speaker 5: This is the same guy that walked into the man
Cave with his uh his patriots.
Speaker 2: Uh yeah, whatever wad because I told you.
Speaker 3: I was going to when I bought it, when I
sent you the picture when I bought it.
Speaker 1: Yeah, but you went outside last year because the game
was stressful.
Speaker 4: I went, it was just hot in here, and I
went to cool down.
Speaker 2: Yeah, so I don't he was. He like he likes
to play on being respectful.
Speaker 3: He asked, you were being respectful and we were driving
and I wanted to cheer a little bit, and I
don't want to do it in here.
Speaker 5: He didn't want me to lose my ship and kick
him out of the house in turn of TV.
Speaker 1: I think Greg, I think Greg actually would be respectful
enough not to do that to you.
Speaker 3: Greg was scared me in the freaking hot tub last
year when we scored.
Speaker 4: I was literally fearing.
Speaker 2: For my life.
Speaker 4: When Greg came was a room like a rage look
at his face.
Speaker 5: I did have a rage look, and I was, but
I restrained myself.
Speaker 2: I did restrain me.
Speaker 1: Oh my god, if you had pushed him in, I
would have laughed.
Speaker 3: It would have been like it would have been like
I was serving with some bullshit workers compting next.
Speaker 5: It would have been just like the Rudolph the Red
Nose reindeer commercial with the show you know, bubbles bounce.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I hate all your people.
Speaker 1: Oh but now, so what do we think with the
third overall pick.
Speaker 4: It depends on I think what Jacksonville does.
Speaker 3: They're an overtime right now, and meck Jones sucks, so yeah,
probably at four.
Speaker 1: I'm wondering if some of these UH picks get traded
because maybe you don't have a need for let's say,
a quarterback.
Speaker 2: I mean, it's not a lot of quarterbacks you're looking at.
Speaker 3: You're look coming out Cleveland at one they are taking
a quarterback. You're looking at a season the top they
might look at a quarterback.
Speaker 4: You're looking at the Giants need a quarterback. The other thing, too,
is that the Raiders need a quarterback.
Speaker 2: The hottest quarterback of the draft is should Do Or Sanders,
which is Deion sanders Son. He's the hottest in the
He and Campbell is the kid out of Miami. Those
are the two biggest quarterbacks. That's not a quarterback rich draft.
They say next year's in the twenty twenty seven classes
and even much or twenty twenty six classes much better.
But they say that and then things end up evolving
and change. But the point is, I mean the Mahomes
draft that year, like everybody said there weren't any quarterbacks
and was taken and actually, until he screwed up, Sean
Watson was pretty good too. I think about him. Deon
Sanders wants to You don't think den Sanders wants to
control where should do Or goes.
Speaker 5: Yeah, I mean, look he's I mean, just look what
them Archie well, he by the way he does, he
thinks he's more than Archie.
Speaker 2: I mean, look look at Sam Bradford.
Speaker 5: I mean he was he was nothing. You get into
the you're Donald Donald. When you get put into the
right system and yet and your talent and your skill
set can be optimized, you can do great things.
Speaker 2: That's what he's done this year with the Vikings.
Speaker 5: So if you go into the wrong system, which is
what what what Manning was trying to prevent from from
from his son going into it charger chargers.
Speaker 2: They were horrible.
Speaker 1: Yeah, they were horrible. But you bring up Minnesota. Kevin O'Connell.
It was talked about on Fox Sports today. Is one
is a coach that some teams are considering training FORCAS
one year left. He hasn't re upped. There's been no talk,
and could Kevin O'Connell end up.
Speaker 2: Coaching the Patriots.
Speaker 5: Well, I'm coaching the Giants coach. Yeah, I'm going to Dallas.
Speaker 4: Coaching the Bills. When McDermott screws up the clock and
over in the playoffs.
Speaker 2: I would love I would love O'Connell head coach.
Speaker 5: Anyway, Sean McDermott's job is as safe as Andy Rea
it is.
Speaker 2: Coward was saying this week, I'm like, Colin, check your sources.
Speaker 5: He does.
Speaker 2: You don't know anything. Why Why would I think Sean
mcdermot's in trouble and John Middlecoff, the guy you talked
to who was a scout for the for the Philadelphia Eagles, says, Oh, yeah,
I think it's right. I think you're I'm like you, guys,
do you have any sources in Buffalo? And I understand
if you don't, because Buffalo is not exactly a place
where they have a lot of like hot media. And
I'm not knocking the media. I'm saying it's not a
big market, but there's we know this. Sean mcdermot's not
going anywhere period. You heard it on this podcast, literally
this podcast first. Greg said it, He's not going on anywhere.
Speaker 5: Terry is not Terry is not going to dump Sean McDermott.
Speaker 2: He's not right.
Speaker 5: He this team hadn't won an AFC East Championship in twenty.
Speaker 2: Years, and they've won five in a row.
Speaker 5: And they've won five in a row, and they've done
it because of one person. Well one person was the
original architect of yes being in McDermott are on the
same page. They have a lot of similar values, a
lot of similar concepts. Mcdermot's not going anywhere. No now
will the Bill's mafia. Now keep in mind, we're gonna
win it this year. This team is different, this whole
vibe is different. Things are different in Buffalo. I think
this team is gonna make it happen. If it doesn't
and there's other things, and we don't get an evolution
towards that, then you know, maybe there's some disruption. But
but then it can come down to, you know, is
it injuries?
Speaker 2: You know?
Speaker 5: I mean, look, we we we beat the Steelers last
year in the first round the wild card weekend, and
there was a there was a good decisive win, but
we lost four players in that loss. And the way
there's a peric victory.
Speaker 6: We go to Kansas City, we almost beat them, We
had the opportune to win and we lost. Well, okay,
you can't control that stuff, and you can be the
best coach in the world, but you can't control the injuries.
Speaker 1: So well, that's the tough part. It's like they can't
get out there and execute the place. You can't make
the plays they can try to go through.
Speaker 5: And we had a j Klein last year guarding Travis Kelcey.
Are you kid meet the guy came off his couch
two weeks earlier he's almost as old as I am.
He's trying to guard one of the most athletic tight
ends in the history of the NFL, and he's not
gonna work.
Speaker 1: So I'm here in Mike Tomlin, since you bring up
the Steelers, is another coach that I don't think the
Steelers would ever let him go. We won a super
Bowl in the second season with them. But they're talking
about could he be traded for, not fired, but traded
for with the Steeler be open to a trade for
Mike Tomlin, which I don't remember coaches being traded for
other than Druden.
Speaker 2: In Belichick, Oh Belichick, Belichick was technically traded for. Oh.
Parcels was in charge of Parcels was the head coach
of the Jets. He was going to hand it off
to Belichick. The Patriots fax the request of the Jets famously,
and Belichick and Parcells saw come off the fax machine
and he threw it out and word got out that
they because they talked to Belichick's age, they said, we
want to interview you, and Parcels put the kaibosh on it,
and it led to he goes, oh, if you want
you want to talk to him, it's going to cost you.
Speaker 5: Wasn't there a press conference for Belichick was in.
Speaker 2: I resign as HC of the nyj He put on
a piece of paper handed in. They thought he's being
introduced as the head coach, and he announces that he's
not going to coach, He's leaving. And so that led
to a huge up rod. That's why the Patriots and
Jets ownerships like hate each other. And for years Belichick
didn't want to be there. He didn't want to work
for Whatdy Johnson period.
Speaker 5: Well, do you blame him? Obviously, he's a smart guy.
Speaker 2: To bring it back to Tomlin. I don't know why
anybody would want to trade I think Tomlin. I think
he's good for Pittsburgh. I do too, but I don't
know that like for the rest of I mean, he look,
the guy could coach okay, but he's also been blessed
with a great front office. Fantastic front office.
Speaker 1: They they don't seem to have much turnover at all
the Steelers.
Speaker 2: They've had three coaches had fifty years. Yeah, so think
about that. Chuck Dole, Bill Kauer and Mike Tomlin. They
don't want to they don't want to do that.
Speaker 5: Well, the other thing is that the Steelers now have
been in the playoffs. I'm not a Steelers fan, but
I think it's They've been in the playoffs thirteen in
the last fourteen years.
Speaker 2: Yes, and they haven't had a sub five. They haven't
had a sub five hundred seasons since two thousand and three.
I mean, I mean one. That's incredible.
Speaker 5: So now my brother, my younger brother, Matt, is a
huge Steelers fan.
Speaker 2: How did that happen? Well, I can tell you.
Speaker 5: I was having so my uncle Ray, you know, Ray
passed away this past October. He he was after you
graduate from college. He got a drug sell his wrap
job in Pennsylvania. He was on his way home to
Hornell for Christmas and had to pick up a gift
for Matt, and he grabbed a jack Ham jersey. Okay,
gave man at jack Ham jersey. Matt was probably five
years old. And then the Steelers won the Super Bowl
that year.
Speaker 2: He's not a Steelers fan for the rest, right, That's
how it works, what happened. So why why do you
think there's all these Mets fans walking around now? In
eighty six they won the World So he's all those
guys were like I mean they love Doc Good and
they loved and Peter.
Speaker 5: I can't believe I'm still food and the Killers. Mount
Carey was a mont Carey is a Bills fan. Yeah,
but he was in He's in Pennsylvania driving north to
Hornell and that's what he grabbed. So it's uh uh
and and you know, and God bless my brother. The
first Super Bowl ever went to was in Detroit when
the Steelers played the Seahawks, because he was we made
a pack after my father passed away, but wherever his
team went to the super Bowl, we would go and
honor my dad.
Speaker 2: And the Steelers went.
Speaker 5: It was in uh, two thousand and well, February two
thousand and six. It was four months after Luke was born,
and the Steelers went, and I was like, dude, he
made a pack, let's go. And he did and then
we did and wow, I've only missed one since then.
Speaker 2: Wow.
Speaker 1: That's that is that's something that's a streak.
Speaker 5: But that's a and so and uh. But yeah, that's
how he became a suessman.
Speaker 2: So he hates Tomlin.
Speaker 5: He is he can't your brother can't can't stand really why, Well,
the same thing we have issue with McDermand on game management,
time management.
Speaker 2: Familiarity, contempt. He's like a clock manager.
Speaker 5: I think Tomlin screwed up the clocks.
Speaker 2: Yes, receivers are always a pain in the assets. They're
all divas everyone they're awesome. And by the way, the
pains how about pig and last night like literally horrible,
biess was awful, fans fight with fans after the game
before he's four during and after.
Speaker 1: But I mean, he couldn't catch anything, right, but nothing.
Speaker 2: He couldn't catch a cold.
Speaker 1: I was gonna say the same thing if I let
it go, because I go, I'll get a sound.
Speaker 2: Like glad dad joke. Yes, yeah, I mean. And on
the flip side there's friar Mouth just calmly catching ball
fire except except friar Mouth and he's a Penn State guys.
Speaker 5: I gotta give him a little bit of go. But
yesterday one of the key drives at the end of
the game, friar Mouth catches the ball, loses his balance,
he has an opportunity to lean forward at the first down,
he avoids the contact with the secondary, he goes out
of bounds and then they end up turning the ball
over because they went for it. And third and one
and then fourth and one. If friar Mouth had just darted.
Speaker 2: Thing forward get that one yard. I watched that.
Speaker 5: I was ruder, you know why, badly because they don't
have what is MVP of the NFL, Josh Alleny?
Speaker 2: Yeah, when does that announced?
Speaker 5: By the way, February sixth is the Honors Bank Thursday
before the Super Bowl Honors.
Speaker 2: Banquet for the NFL down in New Orleans. Greg is
hoping to accept that honor on behalf of Josh Allen
because they'll be preparing for the Super Bowl. Maybe or Vikings.
Speaker 1: I'm hearing more and more, uh, I mean, of course Lamar,
and Lamar has done some amazing things.
Speaker 2: To me, it's Josh. Yeah.
Speaker 1: However, here I'm starting to hear more buzz about Burrow.
Speaker 2: Well, yeah, he's played.
Speaker 1: Yeah, there's something that I'm starting not to like him
because he's.
Speaker 2: So hates him. Why hates Joe Burrow? When he got
hurt last night? She's like, I don't want to wish
evil upon anybody, but well.
Speaker 1: He console's face came up right with the dude, the
look like it.
Speaker 2: Hurt after that tackle he had. So then he goes
into the blue tent and they're like, somebody's like, get
out the Tora doll. I mean, it's one of the reasons.
Speaker 5: Again, I can't tell you why you don't like him,
but I think I think the general consensus of Joe
Burrow is that US is common American football, loving basic
human beings.
Speaker 2: There's there's a.
Speaker 5: Certain sense of people that have arrogance that you just
repulse against because.
Speaker 1: Nobody usually like that. Like if he were well, there's.
Speaker 5: A different between arrogance and confidence. I think you like confidence.
Who likes arrogance?
Speaker 1: Yeah, but I always think he's just a little young
and maybe immature.
Speaker 2: But he's no longer young. He's no longer young. He's
not a young kid anymore. So here's what happened with
Joe Burrow. He was overlooked at Ohio State. I'm sorry
the Ohio State. He was overlooked. Then he goes to
l s U, has a mediocre first season. Second season,
he likes the world on fire and wins wins the
National Championship. But he had like an all star team
to throw to its Like, Okay, we let's see what
happens when he gets to the NFL. So his first
year he gets he gives this humble heisman speech about
growing up in Ohio and how there's so many poor
people there that we need to think of they got
laid off, right. Then he goes to the NF.
Speaker 5: He was never good enough, he was always the second kid.
But then he's tested. Then he starts very endearing. He
goes from that guy smoking cigars, right, he starts.
Speaker 2: Smoking cigars, he's putting on fur coats and.
Speaker 7: Dyeing his hair, right, and then all of a sudden,
right there because even the dyed hair, now I kind
of go all right, and then you know, the.
Speaker 2: Whole, the whole.
Speaker 5: This is the other thing is so the entry into
the NFL, which I love because I think it's very entertaining.
The entry into the games has really captured, you know
in terms of like my kid's attention. That's that's the fashion,
that's the pregame, that's that's that's the fun part of
the discussion of games. Joe Burrow has immersed himself to
be that guy Josh Allen shows up in jeans and
like a funny T shirt.
Speaker 2: But I like because there's humble.
Speaker 5: The reason why you like, the reason why Burrow is
that because he has that obnoxious arrogance on this He's
got the first code.
Speaker 1: That's who I laughed at it the first time, right,
and I go, look at this guy? Yeah, all right, okay, cool?
Now is now I'm starting to go all right enough?
Yeah enough?
Speaker 2: And that's why and death goes. He's got one of
the those budgetable faces. Yeah, and Josh.
Speaker 5: And the other reason why Josh is so endearing is
Josh is like a laboratory retriever.
Speaker 2: He's like he a retriever. He is.
Speaker 1: He's a dogging up you know what I mean that
movie but that dog was so loyal and so yeah,
hey what could I do for it? But he's also
the guy that has the same story. Does not that
same you know, over overlooked junior college does?
Speaker 5: Those are the quarterbacks that always make it. Wait, Joe
Burrow went to the Ohio. This is what I'm saying.
Speaker 2: Yeah, Josh was over Burrow did like he had to fight,
like he had to He had to stay in core
six years before he finally got a shot.
Speaker 5: Wait a second, I mean, look, I don't love him,
but a small town kid from Hornell, here we go.
Speaker 2: I grew up in the Southern Tiers.
Speaker 5: But the small town kid who then goes to the
Ohio State. You're not overlooked, You're no when did you
get to the When when you get there, there's somebody
they deemed better than you. Yes, okay, you didn't match up.
Josh didn't even get the opportunity.
Speaker 2: You did not.
Speaker 5: And so when you're talking about overlook he truly was
over I'm not saying top.
Speaker 2: And I didn't even get a look at him.
Speaker 1: So was a guy that you if I say his name,
you'll probably cringe. Aaron Rodgers.
Speaker 2: Look, Aaron Rodgers went to a community college. Now I'm
liking this. It went to but community college before he
got to.
Speaker 1: Before we get into and I do want to talk
about maybe who the Bills will face, even though we
don't know yet, but AFC East, we talk about New
England having a high pick in the draft. I don't
know that that's going to change their team that significantly
next season.
Speaker 2: Now that they won, ye slipped the three, I don't
think so.
Speaker 5: If they mean if they had lost and stayed at one,
I think they could have a generational reverberation.
Speaker 1: I thought that was trade for like six picks.
Speaker 5: They had an opportunity there if they lost to do
what the Dallas Cowboys did with herschel Walker back in
the nineties when they freaking revolutionized the whole Dallas Cowboys rossed, right.
That was the opportunity they had, and they blew it.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I wonder, well, you know who else blew it
when they had the chance? Jacksonville they drafted Lawrence. But
everybody saying but every else, If everybody else said they
believed in justin fields, they believed in mac Jones. If
you really did that, why didn't you go on national
radio and say Jacksonville should trade down get more picks.
Do that. No, they didn't believe in those quarterbacks. That's
why I know they're lying. But like this is what
this was a real chance where the Patriots, whoever gets
the number one overall pick could do that they could
theoretically do and they have their quarterback. That's why they
could have had a generational hole and they won today.
That's why Kevin so touched off.
Speaker 1: Yes, and that's why the fans have their.
Speaker 5: And there's one there's one thing that we've learned as
Bill's mafia, how critical.
Speaker 2: It is they have the number one overall pick to
have a quarterback.
Speaker 5: Yeah, look, I mean we were we were joking today
about coming and watching the game here as I said, Hey,
you guys want to come and watch the throwback Bills.
Throwback Bill's meaning we didn't have the Josh Allen. We
didn't have the guy we had JP Loss.
Speaker 2: I read really fast. I thought that throwback jerseys.
Speaker 4: I'm glad to exploded it because you're right.
Speaker 2: I always there was a guy last night because Cleveland
had the same problem as the same problem, and they
have a jersey made up of the second this is
the second generation Browns, because the Browns are now the
first Browns, right h Yeah, and the names of all
the starting generation Browns are in Baltimore. Yeah, they have.
And he has a jersey with all the additional names
of every single quarterback who's ever started for the Browns
since nineteen ninety nine, when they had added another one
last night with Brayley Bailey Zappy. So they just keep
adding names because the Browns can never get wasn't there like.
Speaker 5: Twenty five quarterbacks?
Speaker 2: Really? Wow? And the Bills could have been in that
position like if Josh Allen like didn't succeed, we be
on like.
Speaker 5: Three or four more quarterbacks by now and it's in
and so because of because of Josh, because of Justin,
because of oh my god, the guy out in Philadelphia.
Why am I drawing a.
Speaker 4: Bunch of it hurts?
Speaker 5: Because it hurts you get all these guys you know
in Burrow and sincey mahomes in in Kansas City. The
cornerstone to any successful team is that position, right, and
that's and it's been solidified through the draft now. So
when you get the number one draft pick, any team
that has struggled wants to get that guy. And so
the focus on getting that guy. It's not the defensive
rudge Eshcott, you know, the edge rusher. It's getting the quarterback.
So if you don't need your quarterback, and I think
New England fields they have a pretty solid person. I've
heard one spot you don't need it, you can leverage
that to get so much right couple of first couple
of seconds, and then you get your You get your
fifth and sixth round picks, which is where the Bills
have built their team. Look, the depth of the Bills
defense and some of the receivers and their offensive line
have come in that fifth and sixth round picks. That's
where you build your team because that's where the salary
cap comes in. The gms that manage that late draft
better than everybody else, those are the teams that are
successful right now. And Andy Reid has been a genius
at due.
Speaker 4: It and so.
Speaker 5: But but you can build that and that's the easiest
way to make that transition.
Speaker 2: And and to me, you know the Patriots and.
Speaker 1: That they missed an opportunity there. The other leaf AFC
East team is the Jets. What happens with Rogers and
who do they go to for the head coach? We
know the Rabel interviewed already with the Jets and Rex
Ryan back in the mix meeting with the Jets on Tuesday.
Speaker 2: I would love for Rex Ryan.
Speaker 1: I would too, just if nothing else, for the just
the content that's going to come out of that.
Speaker 5: So you know, so the NFL has a deal now
where there's always going to be a one of the
conferences is going to have that that behind the scenes,
yes and all like a hard knocks, Yeah, every conference
is going to do.
Speaker 2: I watched it.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I haven't either. Mid season though right.
Speaker 2: During the season, there's gonna be there's the off seasons,
the preseason, and there's the the Edison in the season.
Speaker 5: And by the way, you know that if Rex goes back,
they're gonna, Oh, He's going to be part of it,
because that's what Rex is good at.
Speaker 2: He's an entertainer.
Speaker 1: He is an absolute entertainer. I love him on Mondays
on the ESPN, I watched it up.
Speaker 5: He's a big he does love Josh. And by the way,
when we were the training camp sponsor, when when Rex
was there, it was one of the most fun times
as a corporate partner of the bills of our entire partnership.
Speaker 1: I would believe that I remember meeting him and uh god,
it might have been Watkins, Uh Sammy, Sammy Watkins and
and Rex Ryan at a Pepsi thing downtown.
Speaker 2: That's right. It was around Christmas time. They came in.
Speaker 1: It was like it was the Pepsi New Year's for
Pepsi Christmas and Rex was there. Man, those teeth are
capped and white, and he's got the big smile.
Speaker 4: He looks good in person. He looks better in person.
He's well.
Speaker 2: He was taking a back. He and Samuel were taking
a back when they booed the mayor. Was that Bill Johnson?
Speaker 5: No, No, they loved one of my one of my
one of my fondest training camp memories is that Rex
did lot of night practices back on the turf at Fisher,
which was one of the greatest environments to be around,
and there was a double deck or tent and oh god, yeah,
I remember that those days, and we had a bunch
of people there and we were having a great time.
Practice ended and the party continued and we were having
so much fun in the tent. After the practice over,
Rex came over into the tent for a corporate event
with one of the other sponsors and was done with
it and then came over to where we were and
sat down at the table and ended up hanging out
with us and having a couple of soda pops. Yeah,
while those guys were well, the team was inside doing
their you know, their rehab or getting ready and everything.
But it was like nine thirty, ten o'clock at night,
because that's when he had the evening practice was.
Speaker 2: Like at six.
Speaker 5: Yeah, and him just sitting there, just bssing with us
was absolutely priceless and he captivated everybody around him.
Speaker 1: He has that aura about oh like he does. It's
it's magnetic. His dad was probably a better coach.
Speaker 2: Buddy Ryan was a.
Speaker 1: Well Buddy Ryan. I mean that was that was the
whole eighty five Bears him. He was a miserable old man.
Could grumpy old you can for the movie. You can
make the argument. You can make the argument Buddy was
definitely a better coordinator. You can make the argument, though
the Rex may have been a better head coach than Okay, yeah,
but because Buddy success as a head coach with two
teams with marginal just like Rex.
Speaker 2: That I don't know, Buddy, but you think Rex is
Buddy's as the head coach. He took the Jets the
two AMC championship game. No, that's my point. He took
the Jets of two championship games. But everybody couldn't Buddy
couldn't win a play Baffall, No, that's my point. But
the Boilers. But he was with a defensive coordinator foot
one year. But Buddy as a defensive coordinator was the
father of the forty six defense with the eighty five Bears.
So he was a better qub saying Buddy was a
better coordinator, you can make the argument that Rex was
a better head coach. Yeah, I got I agree, Yeah,
I agree.
Speaker 1: We will take him moment when we come back. A
few more football things. Any do anybody do fantasy football
at this table?
Speaker 2: I did not. You didn't either. I don't. My son does.
Will does.
Speaker 5: In fact, Will Will won his uh I think was
his high school. He and his buddies from his high
school still do a fantasy football and I guess he
won his team this year.
Speaker 1: All right, we'll have to bring Will over because the
punishment one guy had for losing his league, oh, is
maybe the best and the worst polishment that I've ever heard.
We will get to all that as the Bills and
the regular season wrap up. We'll look at who they
may face and get to that next.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, in New York State, In New York State, some
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Speaker 2: Western New York, Eastern New York, Southern tier. Yeah, we're
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I mean it is.
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And I mean welfare was yep, there are as many
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Speaker 2: It seemed. Wow, there's a lot of working poor. Yeah
you know, yeah, same thing in Silver Creek. Yeah. So
my brother Ryan, who listens to this podcast all the time,
he texted me last week goes hey, you, He goes
man going home because he was home for the first
he lives in Florida's in the Air Force or wasn't
the Air Force. And he goes, h, I hadn't been
home in five years. Man, looks really sad to go
back home. I go, yeah, I get that. Feeling still
every time I go home. It's just like the Tackle
County in general we're talking about. Yeah, it's just it
just kind of is just withered away.
Speaker 1: Like there were neighbors of mine had a meticulous the
house was meticulous.
Speaker 2: The yard.
Speaker 1: He would mow it different diagonals all the time. Yeah,
and my brother goes, hey, or my sister said to me,
I drove by, I went out to look.
Speaker 2: She goes, Oh my god, it's all like overgrown, you know.
Just he would.
Speaker 1: Powerwash the I mean, everything was fastidious and now it's
it's complete.
Speaker 2: It's like people just don't care the pride and ownership, right,
and that kind of like eroded a bit a lot.
A lot of our parents, like they moved on, they downsize,
they moved like you know, or they moved down south
or whatever. And the people who came in and bought
those houses just don't have that same sense of pride anymore.
They just don't care.
Speaker 5: And man, the amount of money people are paying for
house house is this crazy?
Speaker 4: You would think you have?
Speaker 1: It made me all over it a little bit something,
all right. We were hoping to get Greg's son Will
to come down and talk about the fantasy football.
Speaker 2: But some guy who's he's a little camera shy right now,
he said that, he did say it was a little
camera shy. Uh finished this game. We can give him
the we can give him the bag.
Speaker 1: Well, actually, there's one mic that Kevin was on that
does not have a camera because normally we have four, right,
right right, But this guy was he lost his fantasy
football league. And the punishment is you have to go
to a bowling alley and bowl a perfect game and
you can't leave until you a three hundred.
Speaker 5: But what can you add to it? Can be like
multiple games because it would take me forever.
Speaker 1: But you can have ten points off for every hot dog.
They take ten pins off for every hot dog or
beer that you drink.
Speaker 2: Oh my god.
Speaker 5: First of all, I think I think the highest ever. Now,
my older brother Bill, who was down and lived in
Florida for many years. Yeah, he had like nine three
hundred games. He had the Florida state record for a
three series in Florida for like five years before.
Speaker 2: He passed away.
Speaker 5: Oh yeah, he was a huge. He used to go
to Vegas and bowl get rings for that to every
three hundred games, you could you get a ring? Well, no, no, no,
you got to pay for the ring, because you know
he would get a three hundred and then it's.
Speaker 2: Like, oh, yeah, you have to pay for it.
Speaker 5: Well, you can get you can get the you have
access to get the ring.
Speaker 2: You got to buy the ring. I'm sorry, it makes
it a little That was cool.
Speaker 5: It's kind of it's kind of it's kind of like
our contract with the Bills. The Bills when the Super Bowl,
you can pay, I have the I have the opportunity
to purchase, which, by the way, I would.
Speaker 2: Take it a heart beat, of course I did. I
didn't know that about it. But yeah, oh Billy was it.
Bill was my brother. Billy was a huge bowler.
Speaker 5: Now again, my my highest score ever in my life
for bowling, I think it was like maybe one twenty five.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I think it was maybe one fifty ninety eight.
I think I was somewhere in the one sixties. I
think once once worse bowler after fifteen frames we almost
ever they one and a half time as hard as
you do.
Speaker 1: So I don't know if that's gonna happen or or
I don't know if it is cumulative like each game
into but you have to bowl a perfect game. I
think you have to stay there until your ball a
perfect game.
Speaker 2: I would ask for.
Speaker 1: The rails to be up yeah right, and to have
one of those things that I could just put the
ball on and just center it like the little kids
let it roll down the hill.
Speaker 5: And will I had said off Mike one of his
one of their punishments was was drinking game.
Speaker 2: It was you had to drink certain amount of shots
or something was part of their punishment.
Speaker 5: I know some of the some of the some of
the guys I know have had taggett had to get tattoos.
Speaker 2: Oh, okay, one of them.
Speaker 5: One of the guys, one of the guys out in
Buffalo had to wear a tow two on the corner
of like Walden Ave and uh, that's a rae right
by the mall. All he was in a two to
two when he signed and said, I'm a loser.
Speaker 1: Ah, now I have seen uh, I have I know
somebody who's in a fantasy football league, and there's no
punishment for the loser, but the winner, like everybody gets prepped,
You prep for your draft, you go through the draft,
and then he gets to pick one person that he
kicks out of the league for the season.
Speaker 2: Really, Yeah, the winner.
Speaker 1: Of the winner of the prior season is the winner
of the prior season gets to choose one person. Well, right,
and I think you prep for the draft, you show
up for the draft, and before the draft starts, he says,
you're out.
Speaker 5: I was gonna say, what would be brutal is that
you allow that person the draftraft? Yes, and then they
take all their players off, and then whoever is the
biggest threat, you know, like you're out? Yeah, and then
and then the players are then the players are off
the off the grid.
Speaker 2: That would be interesting, you know what I mean? It
sounds fun, sounds cool, But I gotta be honest with you.
As a guy, I hate guys stuff like that. What
do you mean you hate guy stuff? I think it's
lame to make to punish somebody like to do that.
Oh yeah, I think like like like one guy had
a tattoo, had to get a tattoo like a you know,
or or.
Speaker 1: Well, the ball in the three hundred to me would
be kind of funny. I would eat more hot dogs
and drink more beer and hopefully get to three hundred thirty.
Speaker 2: But my Guts out There used to be a radio
show that was Don and Mike where they had a
fantasy league and the loser had to wear a sandwich
board in public. I said, I like boys. Yeah I'm
not joking. Yeah, but that's like stupid stuff like that,
like back in the early two towns. But the point is,
like I just I just hate stuff like yeah, they
just played and win it. I agree, I want it.
Speaker 5: I mean amongst the guys, if you keep it within
the group and you kind of have something like self deprecating, yeah.
Speaker 2: That's fun, right exactly. That's because you know, you gotta
you have to publicly shame somebody.
Speaker 5: So we played this is this is embarrassing. You can
tell I've had in this press over martini or two.
Speaker 2: I love it.
Speaker 5: But we were the other night we had pizza on
Friday night and uh afterwards we played pig card game pig,
which is just you know, you get a form of
a cone and then you put your finger on your nose.
Last person then gets pe and then you get the pig.
So at the end it came down to Jen and I.
I get a little competitive, No, I get a little competitive,
kidding I do, and I get a little loud at times.
Speaker 2: Oh I wonder what that's like.
Speaker 5: I know the people on this podcast who actually listen
here are shocked by this. But I ended up winning
and I did a lot bit of victory dance.
Speaker 2: Did the Ikey shuffle. I did the ike shuffle? Did
you I did the key shuffle.
Speaker 5: In the in the most well no, no, she had
the Graceline. She goes, I hope you're proud of yourself.
Speaker 2: Now.
Speaker 5: Will and Katie were sitting there and they're just like,
I think Will was so embarrassed. I'm not sure he's
embarrassed because I was his dad or just because somebody
acted that way, just because they.
Speaker 2: Want a card game. But that's funny, you know, I
am here what life.
Speaker 1: Is on Friday n But that's what makes memories. That's
the stuff that's funny, right, And those are the things.
Those are the moments that we don't appreciate enough, right
until we don't have them right and then and then
we start to appreciate them. And that's that's as we
headed to a new year. Appreciate those moments, right, have
that fun do that achy shuffle. Tell everybody you're going
to do every day like it's your birthday.
Speaker 5: Every day, Dan, like every day like I'm turning fifty
nine and that's and that's you know. It's like it's
like Will and I are going to go down to
Miami for the Orange Bowl this week, right, and it's
like he's a senior at Penn State. Who knows that
this is going to come around again, who knows, you know,
if he'll have the opportunity through his job wherever he
is in the future. You just gotta capitalize and enjoy
the moment that's in front of you exactly.
Speaker 4: That is that.
Speaker 1: I think it's the best advice for anybody going in
because all you have is you know, the past happened,
the future isn't here you All you really have is now.
Speaker 2: No, that's it you have right now. I appreciate and
enjoy where you are. Yeah, Like we're sitting in church.
They're going to a prairie quest for people. There's a
lot of people like dealing with stuff. Really, a lot
of people dealing with stuff. I'm shocked, shocked when you
get to the specific some of you realize. How like
when you think you walk in like you think you
have problems, and you realize you don't have any problem
I have. That's my point.
Speaker 1: I have told Daddy of the past that I used
to love when I was a kid because I grew
up in a church much all like he goes to now.
And I used to love when this one woman, her
name was she had the most Nascar name you could
ever have. This is small town race and Rudy. It
was damn close. It was Ricky Tree.
Speaker 2: Her name was Ricky Tree.
Speaker 8: And when Ricky Tree would stand up, Ricky Tree, she
had a list about her husband, Darryl, and this was Daryl. I.
Speaker 1: It was like I would start to Fuzzy'd wake right up,
I go.
Speaker 2: It was like the greatest gossip. Now, I don't know.
Speaker 1: I don't know how they do it in your church.
Do they give a lot of detail? She would have
to wave her off, like, hey me, you don't want
to saying all this.
Speaker 2: There's a prayer list, the prayer chain that goes around.
And then what they do is, though, is if there's
somebody that really like they say, like, I don't say
the best for like out loud, but the ones that
are really like somebody who's really young and really really
sick something like that.
Speaker 5: So this is what happens in This is what happened
in Hornell when I was growing up with peace is
that would be like, you know, I want to pray
for my cousin Greg Connors, and then everybody be like,
they go, what's wrong with Greg?
Speaker 2: What happened to Greg?
Speaker 5: And then all of a sudden, everybody does talk start
talking about it.
Speaker 2: Yeah, like the where it gets around. I had the flu. Yeah,
you know, well but flu could be deadly. Well yeah,
I just those things I get very nervous about. Oh
just happens. Yeah, and you just never know.
Speaker 5: And well, we were talking earlier the gentleman who I
mentioned to you guys who who got melanoma out and
was working there, was dealing with the Roswell Cancer Center, right,
and he was in hospice and he was like he
he just wanted to go to the Bills game against
the Jets, and you know, I'm getting to the Bills game.
He ended up doing an online field experience. He ended
up doing New Year's Eve with his family and passed
away in January.
Speaker 2: Second. Wow, I mean again, you gotta take advantage of
what's in front of you. You never know Tomorrow's gonna
bring every day, like at your birthday. Yeah, I got
the thirty first I just thank god. You know, no
hospital visits this year. I was serious, Yeah, because I
had two years in a row of hospital visits, like
one of them got me back into church. Yeah, that's true.
And if it wasn't for the fit bit, you probably wouldn't. Yeah, right,
that was right, because that was the one that that
didn't That wasn't even a hospital visit. That was another situation.
I thought that was a hospital That was that wasn't
a hospital visit. Hospital visits were complex migraines where half
my my body went numb. I thought I was having
a stroke. What was it carpal tunnel or No, it
was a complex It was an aura migraine with aura.
The other one was when I woke up thought I
had a heart attack and no, you're fine, You're fine.
What was dream that I got left behind? I'm not
joking like Jesus came back said no, you ain't comingrect.
Bill thinks that's the funniest thing in the night too,
because it's because he doesn't believe us.
Speaker 4: Well, okay, I have different beliefs. I'm not saying that I.
Speaker 1: Don't believe completely, but you kind of left behind practically
killed you.
Speaker 2: That to me, it's like it's it's tyranny. I had
the hell scared out of me literally, all right, yeah, okay,
all right. Uh.
Speaker 1: For so many years, where as we talked about the
Buffalo Bill's winning the AFC championship, there's Greg with his
AFEC championship had on five seasons in a row. The
Patriots had done it. What was the most in a
row that we figured out during the game, was it
ten years in a row they did?
Speaker 2: I think it was eleven years and eleven years in
a row because the only years so they did in
two thousand and one, then they missed the playoffs entirely
in two thousand and two, and then from two thousand
and three to two thousand and seven they made it
four straight. Then Brady got hurt in no way, they
missed the entirely. Then from nine to nineteen they made
it eleven straight. So the Patriots would win the division
every single year.
Speaker 9: Yeah, that Brady wasn't hurt, so up pretty much well
now with Brady, Yeah, there's talk that Brady's coming out.
Speaker 1: The Athletic had this whole article that Tom Brady is
coming out of the booth for Fox even though he
has his ten year, three hundred and seventy five million
dollar contract, and it's going to be more involved on
the ownership side with the Raiders. And he's a minority
owner from what I understand. Oh he is, but I
could see where you know, you may want to be
picking his brain for stuff. And some people, I mean,
while Brady has a lot of people say he has
gotten better throughout the season as a broadcaster, just isn't
some people.
Speaker 2: Just last it doesn't really have it. I don't think
he's that bad. I don't think he's that bad at all.
I don't think he's great, but I don't think he's bad.
He's average, but he's Tom Brady. The problem is last
week he likes spaced in the intro, He's spaced completely spaced,
and just it was like and he actually he would
talk about the losses of the game.
Speaker 1: Of the I heard he had a dream he was
left behind in the rapture.
Speaker 2: Yeah that was the Super Bowl prit he dropped it.
He actually dropped it in the ocean. At that time, I.
Speaker 5: Actually thought I thought Brady was pretty good. He's been
pretty good this year. Insight, I think the reason why
Brady gets a knock is because he's not particularly entertaining.
Speaker 2: He's dry. Yeah, he's very dry.
Speaker 5: It's very direct, and he has it and when he
tries to be entertaining, he just falls flat.
Speaker 2: On his face.
Speaker 1: Well, even at his roast, he's he's awkward.
Speaker 2: He has a social awkwardness of him.
Speaker 1: Even at his roast though. Remember when he got up
and he told somebody to not say something was glacier.
Speaker 2: I can't know who it was, nobody. They were making up.
They were making fun of Craft getting a and he
it was it was Jeff was talking about the rock
going going to the rubbin tuck.
Speaker 1: No, no, no, And so he's kind of the fun
police in the way because that's that's funny.
Speaker 2: Meanwhile everybody else is getting like flammed, like like roasted completely.
And then that was the one time.
Speaker 1: Nope, can't do that, wouldn't allow that. I don't know,
I don't know if this is true or not, but
I mean he could. I know that they're limiting him
to his on field access before games, right, he can't
go talk to players. He can't do that sort of thing.
Fox really affected him.
Speaker 2: So Fox is like, why are we spending all this
money if you can't go all out for this job,
which is a great point when you got the kid
Olsen who does a heck of a job. Olson, greg
Olson is a heck of a job, but he's entertaining,
he's fun, he's informative, and he was on the first
team until Brady got brought in cold.
Speaker 5: Yeah, I mean greg Olsen's greg Olsen is much more entertaining.
He doesn't take himself so serious. The thing about Brady
for me is that Tom has achieved such success in
his professional career. He takes himself too seriously. Right, He
doesn't want to put himself there and embarrass himself like
I just did. Right, He doesn't want to do that
because he's he takes himself and greg Olsen doesn't care.
I mean, he's got a receiving hairline, he's washed up
tight end. He's had his professional career which was moderately
to a.
Speaker 2: B plus career. Yeah, it wasn't a Hall of fame career,
but he was good.
Speaker 5: And so he brings a flavor and an insight and
then and the humility that a lot of people don't
have and don't bring to it.
Speaker 2: Brady doesn't bring. Has that a little bit Romo. I agree.
I think Romo has a bit of it, only.
Speaker 1: Because he was such a late what late draft pick,
wasn't He.
Speaker 2: And Kurt Warner were both on drafted guy from the
same school, Eastern Yeah, the school he was Bloodstoe's backup.
I just don't think I like Romo.
Speaker 5: He just I don't think he's that His ability to
communicate I think is limited. Yeah, well over before before
last season, he gives, he gives, he gets football players.
I think he reinforces the temperament, well, intellectual capacity to CB.
Speaker 2: CBS apparently had an intervention for him a year or
a little over a year ago before this last season,
had said, you got to up your game, you gotta
get better. We're gonna let you go. We're paying all
this money. They did, weren't They weren't happy with this performance.
So when the Super Bowl in overtime, when Kansas City
goes to win the game, you know, and you know,
and I know that when the final play is made,
whether it's a World Series, whether it's a Super Bowl,
you shut up. Yeah yeah, and he talked over the
whole play. I remember that. Yeah, Oh yeah, I was there.
I don't remember it. Yeah, I was.
Speaker 5: I was screaming, yelling in anger because of the freaking
Chiefs one and the forty nine ers lost.
Speaker 2: But you're going this year?
Speaker 5: No? Yeah, I would assume no, yeah, yeah, planes, book, hotels, book, Yeah,
got my request into the bills for my tickets. Although
there's now there's ten new owners with their whole entourage
of requests, so.
Speaker 2: I'm no further down the line. That stinks. But the
h little nervous dan yeah.
Speaker 1: Will do they get a bigger allotment of tickets if
the go to the Super Bowl?
Speaker 2: Do? Yeah? Yeah? Yeah?
Speaker 5: So each team, So the way the NFL does the
tickets distribution for the Super Bowl is that each thirty
all thirty two teams have a certain ticket allocation, and
then the NFL corporate partners have a ticket allocation, and
then the two teams that make it have a broader,
broader scale, so they carve out the stadium and then
they the the AFC team that go gets the AFC
championship team gets a certain ticket, the NFC team gets
a certain ticket, and then they're remaining thirty teams split
up and they have to buy them. So their teams
buy those tickets. There really aren't tickets for sale to
the general public. You can't you can only get a
ticket the Super Bowl through the NFL. You can't buy
them anyplace else. So all so it's a guaranteed sellout. Yeah,
And in each NFL team buys all buys the hotels
within that geographic area. There's a certain number of hotel
rooms that each team buys, and the two teams that
go to the Super Bowl have a certain hotel allocation
which is bigger than the other thirty teams that aren't
part of the Super Bowl. And so there's guarantee sellouts
of all the hotels as well.
Speaker 2: Look at this. Yeah, it's an interesting.
Speaker 1: It's a great business model, right because if they're coming
to your city, you.
Speaker 5: Own And that's why, that's why those cities are guaranteed
the money that they talk about for that very reason.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 5: And I've been fortunate to learn this and get into
some of that and have some relationships and contacts where
I get hotel rooms and whatever in certain cities because
you know, a team doesn't go to the super Bowl
and you know, let's say it's Seattle and they're not going,
and I've got a friend who's part of the organization there,
and they've got they've got it. They've got three hundred
and fifty rooms and they're only using three hundred. They
got fifty rooms that they've already paid for. They're willing
to get rid of them. We're sell them at a
reduce price.
Speaker 1: Yeah, you just got to know who to call. Look
at this, it's all on who you know, Danny. That's right,
it's all and who you know.
Speaker 2: It's interesting. We'll take a moment.
Speaker 1: Who do we want to see the Bills play in
the first round of the playoffs, And it does look
like it could be.
Speaker 2: More than likely. Will it be right now, Denver? But
I've learned over the years not to root for a
Bill's opponent to show up. No, you always just let
it play out and let your team take care of business.
Because I remember in nineteen ninety I was so thrilled
the Giants beat the Niners in the NFC Championship game.
Bills lose the superwoh nineteen ninety two, I was so
thrilled the Cowboys beat the ninth The Niners were good, man,
they were a machine. People forget how good they were
and what happened. The Bill's got annihilated. So I learned,
don't ever root for any team for an opponent. Just
let it happen.
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Speaker 2: Leo's, Oh, this is.
Speaker 4: The timing year you need? Leo's and Deskbats Drive in
East Rochester.
Speaker 1: They are open every day and you know what they
have prepared foods from their Delian cafe.
Speaker 2: Yes, prepared foods. You go in there, you can get
chicken palm. All you have to do is heat it
up right.
Speaker 1: Everybody's busy, back to work, back to school.
Speaker 2: It's a new year. You got a lot on your mind.
Let Leo's handle dinner.
Speaker 1: It's that simple, quick and easy meals to go from
Leo's Cafe and deli.
Speaker 2: What's the best thing about Leo's. Say it with me.
Speaker 1: Everything on Desbats Drive in East Rochester.
Speaker 2: Open every day.
Speaker 4: In a small town.
Speaker 2: I grew up in such a small town.
Speaker 1: True story, and I have to I need to get
verification on it because nobody ever believes me.
Speaker 2: But the.
Speaker 1: Chief of police, or maybe the only officer in Pine Plains.
He was a cows and officer. Cows lived right on
main Street right after the speed limit dropped to thirty.
You'd be coming up this Route eighty two or Route
eighty two, and you'd be flying along and all of
a sudden we dropped down. Well, he would get you
on a radar from his living room and he.
Speaker 2: Would walk up. He would see you in the drug
store and give you a ticket. Like later on. I
don't even know if it was legal, if you could
do that, I.
Speaker 5: Thought you were gonna tell me that. There was then
a stoplay just past his house, and he would call.
He would radio one of the officers and hey, I
remember my friend that blue Maza sixty six just was
going fifty five in the thirty.
Speaker 2: He was like a red line camera.
Speaker 1: He had the radar gun, had it in his living
room and he I think I thought a friend of
mine got ticket, Stephen Damn. And there were other people
like the Frinzal family, I have no doubt. But in
this small town would walk up in the drug store
which still had a soda fountain with the you know,
the syrup and the Seltzer water and all that, and
then they decided to take it out. They were going
to throw it away, get it out of the Delhi order.
The drug store and the deli bought it, and so
we had a soda fountain for years in that town.
Speaker 2: Like a nineteen fifty soda fountain.
Speaker 5: Anybody that lives in the southern part of Monroe County
that goes to Cimac for the CEMAC concerts in the summer,
if you go on five and twenty through Bloomfield, they
have that same thing they do.
Speaker 2: Oh my god. Yeah, like the little soda fountain.
Speaker 5: No, no, it goes from it goes from fifty five
to thirty five on a down my.
Speaker 2: Hometown to down fifty five to thirty Yeah, like that.
There's no opposite.
Speaker 5: Right there, oh, right at the bottom of the hill
and there's a little there's a little driveway and he's
right there every time. Oh my gosh, it's almost like
every time we come back from a concert from Cimac,
he has at least one, if not multiple people pulled over.
We've you know, this is obviously We've been there for
many years now, so we know.
Speaker 2: But it's just like, these guys kill me.
Speaker 1: There is a before we get to who we hope
the Bills play. There is something that you're going to
see all over social media and the news. A Dallas
Cowboys cheerleader got absolutely nailed by placekicker Brandon Aubrey. He
was trying to kick it out of bad at eighteen?
Speaker 2: Is that a Paris Hilton video today today? And he hit?
Is that a parent? Is it?
Speaker 5: Is that a Paris Hilton like video that we all
should be watching?
Speaker 2: Or what was it? Lee? And uh no, no, no, no, no, no,
you said she got actually hammered. Sorry, you got childlike
mentality here at this table. I thought I had some
This girl get hit right in the head. I'm sorry.
That's horrible. She got hit clocked right in the head. Uh.
And there's video everywhere.
Speaker 1: It just shows her because all of a sudden, you
hear the announcer's talking and you see it disappear and
then it just you see this blonde hair just get bam,
come flying back.
Speaker 2: But it was like the back of her head was
so sarcastic. Well, I kind of liked it. Actually, it
was very funny. I agree.
Speaker 1: I fully appreciated that the Denver Broncos are head of
the Kansas City Chiefs fourteen nothing. Obviously, the Chiefs are
playing nobody today. They've already got a first round the
bye week by so, and you would think that Carson
Wentz would want to kind of prove his worth a
little bit here, right, Maybe he's got nobody to throw to.
Speaker 2: I have no idea, sure he does.
Speaker 1: But do we want to see Denver? Who would you
like to see the Bills play in the first round?
Because I am really hoping that Cincinnati does not make
it to the playoffs, they seem a little dangerous to me.
Speaker 5: For me, don't I'm not necessarily wishing for a particular team.
For me, it's all about matchups, right, you know, when
you think about the college playoff series, Penn State had
the best matchups in the first two rounds, right, you know,
they had SMU. SMU had a strong run offense. Penn
State has a very strong run defense. The Penn State
run defense shut down their run offense. They became one
dimensional against the throw in Penn State hammeredom. You know,
they caused three interceptions in the first two quarters. The
first score by Penn State was a pick six. So
for me, it's about the matchups side of it. And
so when I think of the Bills, the Bills strength
is their offensive weaponry and the when you when you
think about which team's defense is there is the strength
that has allowed them to win. When I think of
the Bengals, I think of the Broncos, I think of
the Dolphins. That team that has that is the Broncos.
The Broncos defense, probably of those three teams, is probably
the strongest part of their team. So when you think
of matchups, I think the Broncos matchup of their defense
against the Bills offense is probably the best for the Bills.
That is, yes, you know, for the Bengals, the Bengals
strength is Joe Burrow and the offense. Well, our defense
is our weakness. I don't want to match our weakness
against their strength.
Speaker 2: Right, So, I mean, if the Bills could exercise that
that ghost of beating the Bengals, because the Bengals Joe
Burrows the other quarterback, they haven't beaten. Mean they beat Patricks,
have they, But they haven't beaten Patrick Mammes in the playoffs.
They haven't beaten Joe Burrow, and they've beaten Toua.
Speaker 5: But when you look at the when you look at
the Dolphins, the Dolphins' strength is their offense. The Dolphins
is a very strong I mean, their their offensive weaponry
when they're healthy is phenomenal. I mean, they're one of
the best offense in terms of the talent they have.
So when you look at the Dolphins, the Dolphins' strength
is their offense. The Bills weakness is their defense. I
don't want to go against the Dolphins either, particularly since
we've matched up against that we beat them twice. It's
hard to be, particularly when their strength is the offense
in your weakness, and at some point they do have
to figure out a way to win in the cold
that ran Who wants to be the you know, the
Dolphins have won a team have wont won a game
under fifty degrees and whatever forty five degrees.
Speaker 2: Well for decades. I don't want to be the first
team that they love.
Speaker 1: That breaks the breaks the curse, that is the worry.
I kind of like the Denver matchup.
Speaker 2: For me. I think that that one I'm okay with.
Speaker 5: Yeah, I mean you got a rookie. You got a
rookie quarterback.
Speaker 2: Again.
Speaker 5: The strength the strength for the Broncos is the defense.
Speaker 2: Yes, and our offense is pretty solid. I will tell
you this. There are no easy outs in the air.
There's no no, not one. No. Don't tell me. Pittsburgh
isn't easy out there. Houston will show up. They will
show up. The Chargers will show up. I wouldn't be
surprised if you see the Chargers in the Amster Championship game.
I do not want to see the Chargers. Really, Chargers
a tough man.
Speaker 5: You got Bosa and Mack on the edge on the defense.
And then you got Herbert in who's his receiver that
he's got McConkey. You know that that's mccacky.
Speaker 1: But I am I'm shocked to hear you say AFC
Championship with them. I guess they're picking at just the
right time.
Speaker 2: Justin Herbert has been wasted and now Jim Jim Harbal
has figured out how to utilize him. He could he
I'm not saying he's a talented as Josh Allen. Don't
don't don't. I'm not going to Herbert. But he's good.
He's got he's got an arm, he's got guts, he
can move. He's not Josh Allen, but he can be
a Josh Allen type of player.
Speaker 5: I think better thrower than Josh. I think Josh is
a better quarterback. Josh definitely a better quarter because because
there's there's a lot more skill set to be a
quarterback other than just throwing the ball. But but Herbert,
I think his ability to throw the ball up the field,
you know, the long ball, the short ball, the middle
ball he had. I think Herbert's got a better talent
for that part of it. But Herbert's more one dimensional. Josh,
Josh can do the r PO. Josh can do it
on his own. They can do a student body right,
student body left with Josh, and Josh can make some
of those drows. I don't think Josh is quite have
the accuracy or the touch for the long ball and
the medium ball like Herbert has. But I'll take Josh
every day of the week.
Speaker 2: I would. Yeah, that's not dispute it. But he's good.
He's been wasted by Brandon Staley.
Speaker 3: Now.
Speaker 2: Jim Harbaugh his first year is figuring out how to
use this kid. For me, Herbert and Burrow are the
same guy. Herbert and Burrow. Okay, really, I see.
Speaker 5: Them too as the same guy because they're both great throwers. Now,
you know, in terms of in terms of like what
others they bring to the quarterback role, in terms of
scrambling and then all the other stuff.
Speaker 2: I think they're Yeah, I think they're about the same.
I think they're the same. But Josh is not Josh is.
Speaker 5: Josh and Lamar are a different sector of quarterbacking. And
I can't say at Harbaugh.
Speaker 2: I know John, how about Jim. Their brothers their brothers,
But I'm arrogant.
Speaker 5: Dark glass guy from Michigan but who defied every forty
nine ers and went to college and did his thing.
Speaker 2: Jim Harley was one. Everywhere he's gone, Yeah, everywhere. It's annoying,
except he was playing quarterback. Yeah, well, here's a hail
Mary away from going to the super Bowl, super Bowl thirty.
If I can't remember, the receiver was. If he catches
that ball, it's not the Steelers going to lose to
the Cowboys, it's the Colts. I can't believe we're saying
that out loud, but that was that almost happened. The
reason why, and Craig might know this the reason you
know why, the reason why the Colts ended up with
Peyton Manning. Jim Harball was the quarterback the Napplis Colts,
and Jim Kelly had just retired. He's got a show
called the Jim Kelly Show, and now I'm the Jim
Kelly Show. He's getting ready for to talk about the Bills,
his former team playing the Colts, and he said Jim
Harbaugh likes to overdramatize his injuries. Well, work got back
to Indianapolis that Jim Kelly had said that about Jim Harbaugh.
So Jim Harbaugh, Jim Kelly get into a fist fight
after the game in the tunnel, Harball breaks his hand.
The Colts end up losing the rest of their games
that year and get the number one overall pick the
following season. You're kidding? Is this week?
Speaker 4: This is a real story.
Speaker 2: I didn't I didn't know about that at all. I
did not know that Danny. I didn't know that Jim
has not that's not made up.
Speaker 5: I do know that Jim had the show, and I
do know Jim, so I do know that Jim likes
to well he probably wouldn't and he's very competitive, so
is Harball.
Speaker 2: So Harball afterwards, good Harball. But he wasn't always He
was like Doug fluty good right, Yeah he was. He
was a b quarterback, but man, you did not want
him with the ball in his hands with two minutes
left because he was a competitor, right, just like he
is a grind. Yeah, the grinder like Tim Teba would
find a way to win games somehow. That was Jim Harball.
That was Doug Flutie. Yeah, you know, he was that
kind of He was scrappy. He wasn't great, but he
was a game. Okay, he's a gamer. Yeah, you know,
but uh, I mean, I I mean, but that story
and then so Jim Harball.
Speaker 1: The cameras went, the cameras went dark, and we got
mood lighting.
Speaker 2: Where did the mood light come from? I'm guessing Jen
turn the lights down all of a sudden, the cameras
are and how does she turn the lights that she
wanted you to? Is that? Is that your signal that
we're too loud? No?
Speaker 5: No, that's the signal She tried to change the lighting
somewhere else.
Speaker 2: And uh oh, she doesn't know the system full yet.
Is that it? And I'm guessing yeah, the playbook she
hasn't learned the playbook. She hasn't gotten the playbook of
the house.
Speaker 5: She meant to call a screen and she threw it
down the field.
Speaker 2: Uh well, I I I shouldn't say this, okay? Or
should we say then you have to say it once
you say you don't. I know we shouldn't say it.
Speaker 1: But I think there's a real chance for the Bills
to take it, to complete the season, play in every
game that that can possibly be played in an NFL season,
and be in it.
Speaker 2: I hope you're right.
Speaker 5: You know, the season really has felt special I I,
you know, respect you and appreciate you. One thing that
I've got bad karma on is I never like to
talk about success.
Speaker 4: I don't either.
Speaker 2: But the boy, it's just it's it's.
Speaker 5: Stay hungry, stay humble, and stay hungry, right somebody we
do and and so you know, it's like in the office,
so with our marketing, with our strategic planning is that
we have like play different paths and so, uh, if
certain things happen, we have a plan for it, and
and and if it doesn't happen, then we don't do it.
Speaker 2: And so it's been one of the things with the
with the with the.
Speaker 5: With the Bills has been we have multiple avenues and
multiple paths of like, if things happen, how do we.
Speaker 2: Do what to do?
Speaker 5: Okay, And one of the things has been if the Bills,
depending on what games weeks the Bills win, we have
a certain strategy that we implement. And one of the
things I was always very reluctant to plan for was
any game after the divisional game after the thirteen seconds
and when when after the at the at the game
of the thirteen seconds, the Bills went in and they
were relatively unprepared for that game in terms of planning
for like the players and the fans and the ownership group.
And so in the off season they went through and
planned out the whole thing if something, if they were
to go to the Super Bowl, this is what they
would do. So it's done, so they have to worry
about it. And so I filed their lead and we
did the same thing, and so we have it done.
We did it in the off season, so it had
nothing to do with the karma of the in season.
Speaker 2: Got it. Look a look at this, so you know,
ahead of it, just in case.
Speaker 5: But I don't want to touch the karma. I don't
want to talk about it. We talked about it in
the in which had nothing to do how things are going.
We did it two years ago. Plan is in place
and it's going to go.
Speaker 2: I guess my question is I think somebody in every
major sports market is thinking the same way. Yeah. So
in other words, like, it's not it's not like my
luck or your luck. It's just it comes down to
just those moments of decision, you know, of just executing
when you're supposed to and getting it right. I don't
think we have anything to do with it. I really
believe that speaking. I don't believe in that's speaking in
exist case.
Speaker 5: And when you talk about the reality circumstances, you're right.
But we think about my mind.
Speaker 2: That I have so much to do with it. I mean,
I had I wear it. I can't do it. I
can't underwear I have on.
Speaker 1: Every game, uh from a certain point in the season
because I gave my other Lucky sweatshirt to my son,
who then decided to crop it.
Speaker 2: Out the bottom off you went, Belichick on his head.
Speaker 5: Jordan James James wait, I will not wear this hat
next week for the playoffs. I will not wear this
hat because I did not wear this hat during the
season when they were playing. Now in reality, is that
have anything to do with the outcome of the game.
Speaker 2: Absolutely not. But for me, I will, I will.
Speaker 5: I will internalize that to the end degree and then
I'll never wear the hat again.
Speaker 2: There's many hats that so.
Speaker 5: He's a retired many hats yeah, yeah, And you have
the emotional investment, and you know, anybody that listens that
is been a Bills fan through the nineties and through
the two thousands and the backle of the twenty and
tens and all the hope that we were sold on
in the you know, all of that stuff. Now that
we've got Josh, you've got McDermott, there's been a stability
of success that everybody craves.
Speaker 2: Everybody wanted. Sorry they fired Okay, So.
Speaker 1: I heard that today when Mail was going to be out.
Uh so, I I do wonder if it will be
vable up there. Yeah, by the way, concerns me. Well,
he's a good coach and they have a decent quarter.
Speaker 5: He had success in Tennessee, Yeah, he did. His big
issue in Tennessee was was control temper and in his temperament. Right,
but he's a he's a fighter, he's a winner's and
by the way, one of the issues that Belichick had
when he was with Cleveland the Jets was his temperament
because he's a no nonsense, he's a you know, he's
a he's a disgruntled old man who's now dating a
twenty four year old.
Speaker 2: That it's unbelievable to me.
Speaker 1: I look at that, and yet when she's all put
together and she's all dressed up and they're out together,
it doesn't look that far off awkward.
Speaker 2: It doesn't.
Speaker 4: Why how come?
Speaker 2: Because I was almost as old as Bill Belichick.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 2: Second, projecting, projecting because there's another guy who was as
a coach on the Dallas.
Speaker 1: I don't know, but he's on the staff and he's
dating and it looks like father daughter when they're out.
But when I saw her all dolled up and her
hair is curled and she, I go, that doesn't look
that bad to me. She looks more mature than her age.
She looks more mature than her age. And then some
people just look extremely young, and that's where it is
creepy in a certain fashion.
Speaker 2: But the adults who cares, well, you kidding me, we're
all judging them.
Speaker 5: Yeah, I was when I saw it. I judged him
and I judge her too. I don't think was what
is she after?
Speaker 2: Well, that's what I'm wondering.
Speaker 5: When do they having comm What are they talking about?
Is he talking about? Is he talking about you know,
press coverage with her? Is she's talking about three over?
Speaker 2: Kendrick Lamar, right, but he's a singer, right.
Speaker 1: The best was when he was the video of him
from the Ring Doorbell camp. I don't know how it
got out, but it was across somewhere and he walks
out shirtless.
Speaker 2: You hear the screen door and you're going, wasn't it
in Cape Cox?
Speaker 5: Yeah?
Speaker 1: It was to be Cape Cod because I'm looking at it,
going this isn't her apartment. But he was like sneaking out,
picking up the paper whatever and going back in. I
think it was a place she rented.
Speaker 2: I think it was like a summer retreat or something. Yeah.
Speaker 5: I thought that was pretty funny.
Speaker 4: That was very funny.
Speaker 2: And then where Danny come out, all the means focus
all the means about him going back to college. She
could get tuish.
Speaker 5: As a person who's like involved with alfred In whose
son now is a freshman. I laughed my head off.
I was like, yeah, that's an interesting It was really funny, right,
I mean it's all funny games and good for as
long as somebody gets hurt on right, too funny right?
Speaker 1: And the thing is like you gotta just everybody's opinion.
This is where people get all spun around the accl
on things. They let them who cares, It doesn't affect
your life one bit.
Speaker 5: Let them come back and beat the bills. It doesn't
affect metal exactly.
Speaker 2: We will do.
Speaker 5: Then I'll become overly judgmental but I am.
Speaker 1: Very interested to see who it is next in New England.
And I do wonder for this frable with that. I
don't even know if he's interviewed. Well, no, no, nobody's
interviewed for the job because it just opened.
Speaker 5: Well, look, Kraft interviewed one person. I think it was
off there. We talked about this is that you know,
when when the Chargers went through their GM search and
they were head coach s arts, they end up interviewing
twenty five candidates combined, which means that the owner in
his group had twenty five perspectives of their team and
twenty five visions of their teams that they can pick
and choose, which they can see and utilize, and then
who can put it together and then make that come
to fruition for them.
Speaker 2: That that's me is a smart business part. That's a
really smart move, right.
Speaker 5: But Robert Kraft interviewed two people for the GM job,
interviewed one person for the head coach job. He hadn't
looked for a GM or a head coach in twenty
plus years, is what I understand. So he had three
perspectives for twenty years.
Speaker 1: A madman attity to that, Greg and that you kind
of knew that this would for failure. Yeah, and you
never want to be the guy that follows the guy allegedly.
I think there are people who can be successful after
someone and was very successful. I mean we've certainly seen it.
You could do Montana and Young as a great example
of that in terms of sports.
Speaker 2: But I wonder could that possibly be and you knew
you would get the number? I don't know.
Speaker 1: I don't think anybody goes in wanting to lose. I
don't think there's one player at the NFL level, at
least player wise, that goes in wanting to lose.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I think competitive.
Speaker 5: I think his huperous yes, nature was not. I think
he thought there would be continuity of of of the
system of the Belichick way, Bill Jr.
Speaker 2: Yeah, Bill, So I think that interesting that they only
gave him one year. No, that is interesting. Yeah, yes,
because you had a new quarterback. Now you're going to
pay him for two or three more years and pay
somebody else to be the head coach.
Speaker 5: So this is and again this is just my perspective
that you in that year you get to under And again,
the other thing about about him is that he had
zero head coaching experience.
Speaker 2: Yeah, you put him into.
Speaker 5: A situation following a coach who had been a head
coach and two prior organizations, and now he was your
head coach for twenty years. He's got no head coaching experience.
You had an ability, you had an opportunity to evaluate
what was he like as a head coach, and I
think in that first year he had an idea what
does he have? He doesn't for crass perspective, I'm guessing
is that he did not demonstrate the qualities of leadership
and organizational structure and management to take them to what
they needed to or they wanted to get to.
Speaker 2: You can figure that out. Now.
Speaker 5: He probably needs more experience. He probably needs more opportunity
to get to that because even look, Belichick had two.
Speaker 2: Runs at it, didn't get it right.
Speaker 5: He got run out of both places.
Speaker 1: But you know what's so weirdness, there isn't anybody from
the Belichick coaching tree that went on and has had success.
Speaker 2: Maybe there's one, maybe one Bill O'Brien. By the way,
where did the Texas in the NFL? Where did he
have success? They were a playoff team in Houston, They
got to the divisional level, no, stay with me on
this one. Bill O. Bryant purposely tried to get fired
from Houston. It backfired. He actually wanted out because I
think there was another job that he was angling for,
just like he did at Penn State. Yeah. He look,
he came into Penn State after paternal got fired. Who
wanted that job?
Speaker 5: Well the guy there's an interim in between. But yeah,
he came in essentially as outside.
Speaker 2: Yeah, he came here for one year and then he
got the Texans job and he got them to the playoffs.
You know, his quarterback like didn't want to play there anymore,
and there were other things, but he was successful, so
he took Compared to the other guys, the other one is,
of course Nick Saban. We always forget about Nick Saban.
Oh about Nick Saban? Was was an assistant under Bill
with Cleveland. Yeah, he was a defensive.
Speaker 5: Way he had no success in the NFL.
Speaker 2: He has success. He went to Miami. He actually had
two winning seasons in Miami though they just didn't make
the player. But I mean he would by the way,
if the winning season is understand that. I understand that.
But you have got to be accurate.
Speaker 1: We got to be fair when we were bragging about
winning seasons, we were also crying on the inside.
Speaker 2: Yeah, you know what I mean we were. I mean, oh,
we had a winning season. That was the old Bills.
That was that was the throwback Bills. We had a
winning season. We were happy. If we were happy.
Speaker 5: Nick same and then goes to Alabama and does believe.
Oh but but always the SEC because of all the
resources he had, everything he had, he was able to
he was able to hand pick all the talent as
opposed to have to then go through a drafting process
and then have equality. There was no There was no equality.
And there's not much quality now with N I L stuff,
but there was no equality in college football.
Speaker 1: I think it's harder now with the NIL stuff because
if I'm not getting my playing time the transfer portal. Look,
we've seen guys one right, transferred out of Ohio State,
but it wasn't as prolific as it is now.
Speaker 2: No, I mean that was pre and I L. Yeah,
this was pre in I L. I believe it.
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, guys, but you know, people were wondering, is
arch Manning gonna end up in Carolina.
Speaker 2: It's like a destroyed college football. Yeah, I mean it's fair,
it's it's it's fair, it's legal, but it's destroyed college football.
The SEC, which is what was the most dominant college
college football, has now gotten throttled in bowl games. When
was the last time you remembered an entire conference like
the SEC ever getting annihilated in bowl games? Now it's
happened because those southern those southern schools don't have the capital,
those big ten schools do. Yeah, because when you think
of education, Penn State's school that you think about when
you think of education. Notre Dame, Yes, Michigan, Yes, you
don't think of Alabama.
Speaker 5: You don't think of LSU, you don't think of Florida,
you don't think of Old miss Against.
Speaker 2: Those chickens are coming back to roost because they don't
have the alumni network. That's why Saban left. He's like,
we don't have that in Alabama. I'm leaving. I'm getting
the f out, he said, way out. But now he's
front verbos the U. But Notre Dame, not even in
a conference still sort of never.
Speaker 5: But their ability to hi to raise nil money is ridiculous.
Speaker 2: It's crazy because the active Alumnayeah, I think that that
oh my God got from the athletic schools to now
the rich.
Speaker 5: Schools, the real successful all night.
Speaker 9: Yes, yep, we'll take a moment owner Syracuse is actually
going to be one of those schools now down down
the football first year that that football is better than basketball,
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this will be a concert in the backyard. Oh yeah,
where with the stage for you? I think it has
to be like over the pool. You're on the deck,
all right, on the deck beneath. So what movie was
I watch? And I think it was with Kevin Hart.
Speaker 5: It was Me Time with Kevin Harty okay, I Seal
performed a backyard concert for his buddy.
Speaker 2: I was like, that's what I envisioned with when I
first thought it. That was like, that's what I want
to do with Bruno but not so old school. And
Snoop Dogg showed up in the backyard. Yeah, put the
music back hour. What was the movie that?
Speaker 1: Uh? Were she goes back to school with her daughter
and then all of a sudden, Christina Aguilera shows up
and they do a backyard concert with Christina Aguilera.
Speaker 2: Oh wow, okay, I don't know that one. Which one
is that?
Speaker 1: It's she's all that, No, it's not, she's all well
do you know what that it's uh it's with uh
Megan McCarthy, I don't know.
Speaker 2: Okay, Yeahls McCarthy, Melissa, thank you, and I forget the
name of the movie. But she winds up.
Speaker 1: They dropped her daughter off at college and then she
gets divorced.
Speaker 2: Is it to school, Well, it's like a back to
school women.
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, they have yes, very similar, very similar,
because then a young guy takes a shine to her
and starts dating her, and it's.
Speaker 2: Like reverse Belichick.
Speaker 1: Yes exactly. I did something yesterday. Jamison has a pension.
Speaker 2: For uh going to Goodwill.
Speaker 1: He likes buying goodwill clothes and I said to him,
that's actually recycling. Huh say thrifting. He likes thrifting, drifting.
And my sister is like so conscientious of like the
planet and stuff. She has biodegradable zip lock bags. They
drive an electric car, and she rents her clothes.
Speaker 2: Never heard of that rent.
Speaker 1: There's a company that all rent So she gets like
a month's worth of clothes that she picks out. They
send them to her, and when she's done, she sends
them back and she gets the new Well, almost like
a stitch fix, but not when you're not owning it.
Speaker 5: That's interesting, it is, And I went, oh, my gosh,
so does she not have any other clothes?
Speaker 2: I think she has some that she owns, but most
of the transitional gotta think. I have to think. But
you never heard you ever ever heard that? Never, No,
never heard that in my life until Thanksgiving this year,
and she was telling us, and then when I was
down there, she was there in d C.
Speaker 5: Right, yeah, So, I mean they're a little bit ahead
of Rockster in terms of that.
Speaker 1: Well, but it's also you got to be in that mindset.
I'm not in the mindset of renting clothes.
Speaker 2: So kid, I had the same clothes from ten years.
I just recently learned that recycling recycling really doesn't work.
That that like plastic recycling that can only recycle like
a seventh of the plastic in the country really or
world wide like that. Most of it is just you're recycling,
but you can't. They can't do anything with it. It's
just it's a nice thought, but it's it's trash. It's
garbage that can happen. I remember seeing this disheartening. It
is a little disheartening because I try. I always figure
this way. The world's still here, though.
Speaker 1: I'm going to try to just be a good steward
of the planet. Right if I can do it, I
will say I've driven hybrids.
Speaker 2: I really like them.
Speaker 1: They don't get a lot of miles to the to
the electric charge, but good enough to get around town
and stuff.
Speaker 2: I'm kind of cool with that. Yeah, I have a hybrid.
Speaker 5: Now it's okay, Well you got an early edition hybrid.
I do have a very early edition hybrid, right, and
I still have it. I haven't gotten rid of it.
I'm still holding on.
Speaker 2: Look, had a different opinion. Yeah, it just mava, I
didn't see. What's that?
Speaker 1: What happens stay right into my career. There's no camera
on you because the cameras are down anyway, so don't
even worry about it. What happens every time accelerate?
Speaker 2: It jumps every time you accelerate.
Speaker 5: Oh, there's no transition transition from hybrid to petroleum.
Speaker 2: You have getting an old car and you're like, yes, yes,
it's exactly like that. Yes, okay, yeah it's really annoying.
Speaker 1: Yeah, but so I always try to just go electric
till the battery drain, I'll go to hybrid, and usually
it's just a pretty smooth transition on that. But it's
a newer model. You were early adapter, man, I was
twenty sixteen. Yeah, early, I still have it. Yeah, that's wow,
that's really early that's almost ten years old.
Speaker 2: It's got two hundred thousand miles on it. Really getting
your getting usage out of it.
Speaker 4: I don't you know.
Speaker 2: I want to do what's right for my I hear you.
I hear you.
Speaker 1: So I yesterday was gonna do what good for my environment.
I'm in Goodwill. I'm waiting. He actually took a cart
full of clothes. He goes to try them on, see
what fits, see what doesn't. So I'm walking around and
I go, I don't have a crockpot. I'm going to
get a crockpot. I see a crockpot for ten bucks.
And then in the store I say to him, I
put it in his car and going I'm going to
get this. He goes, why hes make food?
Speaker 2: Well, you got basketball. I got this.
Speaker 1: I could just put it on slow cook. He goes,
croot food is disgusting.
Speaker 2: I will not eat. Okay, why is he gross? My
wife cooks on over on that microphone and say why
it's great? Why is it gross?
Speaker 5: Because I mean it's just a it's a slow cookie process.
Speaker 2: It cooks, it's already cooked. You don't do anything. Yes,
that's the idea. My wife uses at least one crock
pot meal a week.
Speaker 1: Okay, yep, so uh Jamison Jameson said to me, nobody
likes crock pot food. Ask anybody, Ask anybody and.
Speaker 2: Under under the age of it's fifteen. I go, I'm
not asking anybody. And he's in the store. So bad.
They're saying, so bad your son and his girlfriend.
Speaker 5: Somebody and yeah and luky he but again they're you know,
they're still in college.
Speaker 2: You haven't had pulled pork to that crock pott, Yeah,
like slow cooked.
Speaker 1: Jamison then says to me, ask anybody here, Ask anybody.
I'm not asking anybody. So he walks up to some
woman and goes, excuse me, man, ask you a question.
Speaker 2: Just like his father like.
Speaker 1: She looks at him like all bewildered, and he goes,
crackpot foods disgusting.
Speaker 2: Right, And how old is this person?
Speaker 1: She looked like she was in her early twenties, and
her answer was yeah or no, no, no, she said
it was not discussed.
Speaker 2: Oh okay, she she looked like she was thirty and
she looks like ingredients. Also, that's begging the question the household.
Speaker 4: Yeah, like when you open the fridge you got carrots
and stuff, like you don't got.
Speaker 2: Ingredients, ingredient, knowing an ingredient, I guess. But I'm going
to say, I don't think. I don't think anybody talking
to that because it's chili is nasty to me.
Speaker 4: I think, why is chili with beans as gross? Beans
is disgusting. It's the worst food ever.
Speaker 5: So what are he's saying is that anything that requires
you to actually make food is not good. He wants
to have the food already made.
Speaker 2: No, no, no, no, no no, I'm not saying that.
Speaker 5: I think that chili's nasty.
Speaker 4: Though I don't like beans.
Speaker 2: Jamison does cook, makes a mess, but cooks. But I
think I hate it. I hate chili so much.
Speaker 5: Yeah.
Speaker 2: I was never a big chili guy.
Speaker 5: So now that I'm older, Yeah, and I only eat
chili like between January and March. Chilli in the summer,
that is my I mean tailgates between you know, like
cold tailgates corny.
Speaker 4: That's okay, but I don't know.
Speaker 5: Yeah, for me, it's like you know the cold weather,
the cold weather tailgate games where you want to have
warm food that's actually warm.
Speaker 2: Is that's chili for me? You know?
Speaker 5: Mid December early December to February yes, it's a cold March,
cold wet March during n CUA A basketball be around.
Speaker 2: You know Patty's Day. There's a little piece of bread
to dunk in there. Yeah, there you go. Come on,
was card get my winter weight? It is?
Speaker 1: Well, see I worry about the winter weight. That that's
my mission is I'm taking it off. I gotta get
the back.
Speaker 2: I remember, you know what Friday is? Quitter's Day? Oh
yeah it is, yeah, this Friday.
Speaker 1: Yeah, they always call it Quitter's Day. It's so funny
because we joined the why back in the fall, I went.
Speaker 2: To go young man. I decided to go. I was
going to try.
Speaker 5: Tell me you went on Thursday, uh, January second.
Speaker 1: I did go Thursday, and it was it jam packed,
jam packed, at the point where I couldn't find anything.
Speaker 2: So I went up on Josh. That was the day.
That was the day, Greg.
Speaker 1: I was going to go do something I've never done
because I'm like, you know what, I'm going to challenge
myself to do something that I know is going to
make me uncomfortable just to walk in. And I was
going to go do pilates, a pilates class. I walked
into the pilates class and the place is so packed.
I just stood there and the woman comes, Hi, there's
a spot over in the corner.
Speaker 2: There, I go, no son.
Speaker 1: I walked out and I got on an elliptical for
forty five minutes and did that instead. I just thought
it would be something different than I couldn't do. I'll
tell you the worst one I've ever done. I did
a bar class once. Do you ever do bar? Bar
is like a bar?
Speaker 2: Well? They molly. The last one I did was that
mont Connery bar.
Speaker 1: To bar they used to do like a bar exercise
class and the right to a bar afterwards. But this
is a class where you're like on your back and
you've got those rings that you squeeze and you're supposed
to lay there with your legs up and all this,
and it's all women and it's all tight yoga pan.
I didn't know where to look. I was so uncomfortable
in that class. I didn't Everything was birth canal, but
it was this was probably got it. It was like
I'm looking on birth can I go. I don't even
know where to go.
Speaker 4: I got.
Speaker 2: I mean, I'm not a dentist. I can't fix your
What year was this cammebelt?
Speaker 4: This had to be twenty twelve, twenty fourteen.
Speaker 2: It was a long time ago.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean not a man of curious ladies. I
can't fix your camel. So I was like everywhere, everywhere, everywhere.
Speaker 5: Yeah, for me, I don't have the flexibility.
Speaker 1: Well, see, I want to get that well at our age.
Speaker 5: And I say this, but at our age, the biggest
issue is flexibility. It's not necessarily weight training. It's not
strength muscle training, it's all flexibility.
Speaker 1: Well, they do tell women's strength training is important, and
I think strength training, even for you clearly do strengths.
Speaker 2: That's what I do. I don't do that, but the flexibility.
Speaker 1: As I'm watching my parents, I'm going, I don't want
to have these issues, and I think flexibility would help.
Speaker 2: I believe the same thing with my eighty four year old,
I mean eighty three year old. No.
Speaker 5: The joke is Ford that's listening is that I posted
on Instagram last night My mom wanted to espresso martini,
so I didn't want to drink alone, so I made
one for myself as well. And I always teaser about
her age. I've been saying she's eighty four for the
last two years. She finally turns eighty four in October
of twenty twenty five. So I said, here's the eighty four.
Everybody thought it was her birthday. Everybody did, Yeah, I
had a birthday in your mom And I'm like, yeah,
that's actually me being a Samartaus who's a kid, you know,
her son.
Speaker 2: So but yeah, that was my town to being funny.
Speaker 1: We talked about now one of the things people will
do tailgating chili.
Speaker 2: Right.
Speaker 1: Also, sometimes you'll see food trucks up there you grab
something from the food truck. Somebody was in a borough
of New York.
Speaker 2: City and there what I don't want to know, what
do you mean? Why?
Speaker 1: So somebody apparently this turns out to be a company
that has a number of food trucks, and they sent
him out around the city. And this was in Queens
and a woman notices the guy leave the back of
the food truck and throw out some food for pigeons
and then try to grab one.
Speaker 2: No, a pigeon or the food a pigeon.
Speaker 1: Oh, so then he misses, So she starts filming and
there is on the internet film of the guy grabbing
a pigeon and putting it in a bag and getting
back into the food truck and they are trying to
do a fire like the company fired the guy said
he was a filling guy. He wasn't there guy. And
somebody else said, in his society, what country he's from.
Pigeons are considered, you know, a delicacy, not even a delicacy, Danny, like,
they're there to help the birds, like they try to
help birds.
Speaker 2: And this bird was injured and he was trying to
nurse it back. He wasn't trying to nurse it back.
Speaker 1: And it makes me wonder how many times have we
eaten something that we have no idea? Like if you knew,
do you know what I'm saying, If you knew.
Speaker 5: I've been in restaurants and I've thought that just yeah,
just what are they giving me?
Speaker 2: I never send anything back, well, I tell best, never
don't send anything back if it sucks. Sucks. I have
food allergies, right, okay.
Speaker 5: I have allergic reactions to to dairy and butter, really
particularly butter. Okay, And you know, I go in and
I tell the waitress all the time, and there are
times and I can tell. I mean, it's it's a
relatively quick response, and I'm like these freaking guys. People
are like, does he really have a butter allergy?
Speaker 2: Let me see.
Speaker 1: It's a bad way to being it's a business. But
it's like, you know, it's not anaphylactic, is it for you?
Speaker 2: You don't know?
Speaker 5: No, No, it's not that, thank goodness. But it's just like,
you know, you're in New York City. I mean you're
in Manhattan, You're in midtown Manhattan. How many locals are
going to the you know, Peter Luger. Nobody who's going
to Prime Steakhouse? Just the people are tourists like me.
Speaker 2: They don't get a ship, right.
Speaker 5: I'm like, well, I say, because a lot of restaurants,
the greatest steaks always have like they have their you know,
peppercorn rub or cajun rub, but they do it with butter.
And so I always asked, do they have a butter it?
Do they use a butter rub?
Speaker 2: No? I don't think so.
Speaker 5: And it's like ten minutes later, I'm.
Speaker 2: Like, are you kidding me? Yeah, that's a crudo.
Speaker 5: So you talk about this with the food trucks, there's
nothing better in Roser for me. Truck from like Memorial
Day through Labor Day or Halloween like going to a
food truck against some food truck.
Speaker 1: Food, right, I mean, it's great, but no one's grabbing
a pigeon. So allegedly the health department stepped in and
they went all through the truck. They found no pigeon anything,
nothing tested this pigeon. No one knows, but it is
one of these things.
Speaker 4: I don't know.
Speaker 2: Maybe there's some parts of the world the pigeons are
a delicacy. Who knows.
Speaker 1: This gentleman was somebody that I think President Trump will
probably sent back. And and but we had it down
in Syracuse with the swans. Somebody grabbed the swan at
us whatever swan pond, and they found out that the
family took the female swan and ate it.
Speaker 2: The mother, ate the mother, ate the mother. So I
don't know, but this guy, so this woman had this
whole thing.
Speaker 5: In our restaurants has served duck, Yeah right, yes.
Speaker 1: When duck is for some people real delicacy, it's a
little greasy for me.
Speaker 2: You know, some have frog. Well I think about about
fast food, I mean snails, if they actually showed you,
like like Jamie Jamie Oliver did a whole thing about
chicken McNuggets and how they make chicken McNuggets and it
really is a wasst paste. The waste inns of chicken
he turned into a paste. Oh, it's chicken and it's sausage.
But it's not exactly. It's not like you're going to
like one of our buddies there and getting the sausage
like handcut. No, this chicken is like made from like
innerds and waist and it's turned into a paste and
they make it into like a bake it to little nuggets,
and that's what you're eating. So what do you think,
I mean, if you go to McDonald you're eating this
crap all the time, pigeon things.
Speaker 5: All I gotta say is I hope our favorite chef, Danny,
you know, Danny Wagman.
Speaker 2: I hope his chicken nuggets that we all ate tonight,
those chicken tender. I'm sorry. There's a way to tell.
There's a way to tell.
Speaker 1: The nuggets, the smaller thing that they usually do to.
Speaker 2: If it's a really fine like chicken like tiny pieces
that then you know it's a paste. If it's long
strand it's real, it's yeah, you can get okay, glad
they are a chef. No, I'm talking about it, right,
of course he.
Speaker 1: Did it right, all right, what don't we Uh, it
looks like it's Denver's up twenty four, So we would
assume that it will be Denver that the Bills play
next week in Buffalo, and then we don't know what
time or anything yet.
Speaker 2: No, that will that will come out probably tonight. They'll
make us sip through the And why wouldn't we the
Vikings Detroit game? Because that's gonna be a fun one.
It should be. We say that, then.
Speaker 1: Who do you like in that game? Because I'm hearing
a lot of people like the Vikings in this one.
Speaker 2: It's in Detroit, right in Detroit.
Speaker 1: It's in Detroit. But I still hear they like the Vikings.
I don't know, I mean, like, would this?
Speaker 5: Well?
Speaker 2: The reason for sam, the reason go ahead.
Speaker 5: The reason why they like the Vikings is because the
Detroit Lions defense is decimated with injuries.
Speaker 2: That it's not the same defense. They lead the NFL
in injuries. In injuries. Yeah, think about that. Usually a
top tier team, you know, is pretty low in injuries
because you know everybody's healthy. But no, they lead the
NFL and guys on injured reserve right now, I'm sure
one of the best teams in the league.
Speaker 5: I'm sure if you watch the game tonight, they're gonna
tell you. I think there's one or two starters in
Week one that are playing tonight for the Detroit defense.
Everybody else is injured. There's nine guys that are.
Speaker 2: They're banged that pretty bad. Here's the other thing too,
you know, and I know that there's an opportunity for
our favorite coach there, coach Campbell, to do something, take
a chance when he shouldn't take a chance. Oh and
he will take that chance, and that chance implodes, and
Minnesota goes and wins the football game. And then they
point back to that, and he had the postgame press
conference he goes, I own it, which you will. Yeah,
but that's what Detroit does. But really, that's what the
Lion's doing. Hang on a second. I like that. You're
willing to put your balls on the line, don't you want? Yes?
Faith in the guys calculated though, if he has the
Niners last year instead of going for he made the
off side kicks against the bill that was announced, I
mean like he did a little soon he didn't have
get That's what I'm saying that's an odd time.
Speaker 5: He wanted to catch Look, football is about momentum. It's
all about capturing that.
Speaker 2: And he wanted to change it. And that's one way
to do it.
Speaker 5: Because look, if he didn't do it there, if they
would have gotten in that situation, that whole game.
Speaker 2: Would have turned.
Speaker 5: And by the way they ended up making it interesting
at the end, it was still in control, but it
was at least interesting. The you know when Tom last night,
Tom on their game, he went, he went for it.
And why because it's about momentums, about getting it done.
It's you know, I love a freaking day Campbell. If
I was a coach, that would be the exact same ways.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm impressed because I think when he first started,
a lot of people making fun of him, we're break caps.
Speaker 2: Were going to do this because he didn't come off
as a polished, typical minded head coach. He came off
as an jock, came off like a rockhead. And then
but it turned out not like most of.
Speaker 5: Us football players are. He also the other thing all
the other thing about him that was interesting is that
he was the exact opposite of Bill Belichick, who had
had this thing was enough career for twenty plus years.
Here was like the NFL, the dean of coaching in
the NFL, the artist saying nothing.
Speaker 2: And Campbell was the exact opposite of that.
Speaker 5: And he's entertaining and he's fun.
Speaker 3: He got.
Speaker 2: He beat the Bills as an interim coach in Miami.
It beat him back. Oh, I do remember that. I remember.
And he never got another head coaching shot until he
got to Detroit, which was years later.
Speaker 5: You know, for me, when I look at this game tonight,
it's in Detroit. Football is about emotions. Yeah, And if
you come and you can be a lesser talented team,
but if you have an emotion and a and a
fight and a and a tenacity and an energy that
is supersedes your opponent, you'll win even though you're not
as talented.
Speaker 2: The one thing Campbell brings.
Speaker 5: The one thing Campbell brings to the table in any
game he plays it, I think his his team, his
guys are emotionally more prepared than the other team.
Speaker 2: And I like that.
Speaker 5: So when it comes to a one game performance and
he doesn't make you know, they don't have any turnovers,
Detroit wins this game.
Speaker 1: I uh yeah, it's two different coaching styles. When I
think about it, like Kevin O'Connell seems a little more
at least my comparative.
Speaker 2: He's an offensive genius. Campbell's not an offense He's not.
He's not. I don't want to say he's not a
Genius's an NFL head coach. You gotta pretty damn bright
to be an NFL head coach. But Campbell didn't come
off as a guy who had this great system and
they're like, I want this system implemented. He came off
as like a Parcels type where I'm a no nonsense guy,
I'm here to crack skulls. Here we go that he
came from the dick came old right where it's not
my brain, it's just my attitude. But the thing that
helps Campbell is that, and else it helped Billy Bean
build the Oakland Athletics is that he is the best
athlete in the organization. So he'll he'll challenge his players
to like, you know, run sprints, to don't do all
the exercises like he can. They know he can go
toe to toe with them.
Speaker 5: Did you see the video of him No that I
think it was in training camp where he actually got down.
Speaker 2: He was doing burpies with the players.
Speaker 5: He actually without pads, went did one on ones with
the defensive line without pads.
Speaker 2: I did not see that. I was freaking fantastic. He
did it all. He did it all. He's in But
that's particularly why they love him because he's an ex
He's an ex player who could get down with them,
and he's still in great shape. So I'm saying, they
both of you guys are picking the Lions. I'm taking
the Vikings. You're taking the vi.
Speaker 5: And I'm taking the I'm taking the Lions. Yeah, and
if the Lions don't turn the ball over, they win.
Speaker 2: Okay, If the.
Speaker 5: Lions turned the ball over, I think the Vikings will
take it.
Speaker 2: Here's what's really said. The Vikings have been the consent
The Vikings and the Chiefs have been the consensus best
teams in their respective conferences throughout the entire season. Say
what you want about how the Chiefs have won, They've
only had one loss. You can't in Buffalo. You can't
kill them for that, all right, But the Lions were
talking about the injuries. The Lions have been the consensus
best team in the NFC, and if they lose tonight
and drop from a one seed to a five. That's
a travesty. That's a tragic. It's not their fault. It's
not their fault. Yeah, but when you like to see
I would kind of great. Yeah.
Speaker 5: It's probably the best regular season finale in NFL history.
Speaker 2: Lines are a better story. Lions are a better story
than the Vikings. Vikings are boring. They're just good, all right.
Speaker 1: I'll take that. For Greg Conters, Cotters and Farris, For
Dan Burrilla, who is with me in Minnesota, I'll probably
I'll probably be wrong into uh And for Greg with
his AFC East champion hat on, I'm Bill Moran, will
see you tomorrow, Bills.
Speaker 2: Worth, knowing breakers fell, But.
Speaker 1: I don't have to win.
Speaker 2: Got the dog the pollock, gotta have the ten sequins.
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