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Speaker 1: Hey everyone, this is Lee from the UK, big fan

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of anything seventies and eighties and an even bigger fan

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of the Shory podcast. Brilliant content that's perfectly delivered. Keep

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up the amazing work, guys. Thank you.

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Speaker 2: All right, everybody, it's the podcast that is the only

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thing in the world that can drag you away from

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the soft glow of electric sex. Gleaming and up and

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welcome back to the Shirley You Can't Be Serious podcast.

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Shirley fans, I'd like to list you a Merry Christmas.

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Merry Christmas, Ded, Verry Christmas. Jason.

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Speaker 3: Thanks man, I'm so excited we've come to the end

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of our second season. We're finishing off with Christmas movies,

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but it is the season to be jolly and I'm

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just un relishing in all of this Christmas plitz.

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Speaker 4: I know, man, We've had a great year two. Yeah,

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I'm excited about Year three. But let's cap year two

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with two of the greatest Christmas movies ever made.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, two Christmas movies about young boys like us back

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in the eighties and nineties who faced troubles but ended

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up having a merry Christmas. Apteral, let's do it so

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we're going to talk today about Home Alone yep, nineteen

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ninety yes, and A Christmas Story nineteen eighty three.

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Speaker 4: Right, did you see either of these in the theater?

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Speaker 2: I know that I saw Home Alone in the theater,

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one hundred percent sure. I saw it in the theater,

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and I may have seen it a couple times in

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the theater. It was one of those things like Crocodile Dundee,

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where it was just there and stayed there and was

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there and there and there and kept being there. So

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I'm pretty sure I saw it at least twice in

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the theater. A Christmas Story, I was pretty young when

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that one came out. I know that I remember seeing

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it on VHS. I know that I remembered seeing it

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quite a bit before it became the TNT twenty four

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hour Marathon, which I think we're in year twenty four

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of that. This year, I think it is ninety seven. Yes,

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it's the year twenty four that you're going to get

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twenty four hours of A Christmas Story.

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Speaker 4: They play it twelve times in a row.

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Speaker 2: And I'll sit there and I'll watch it. I'll watch it.

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I mean, it's just just on while you're doing your

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Christmas stuff. But my gosh, it's wonderful.

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Speaker 4: And because it's in vignettes, you can pick it up

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here and there and drop it.

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Speaker 2: Absolutely absolutely, so let's talk about that.

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Speaker 4: So you and I talked on the phone yesterday right.

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Speaker 2: About how these two movies are so similar to other movies,

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and so I said, you know, a Christmas story doesn't

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necessarily have like a real plot to it. I mean,

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it's got kind of an arc of He's wanting the

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bb gun, but it's really just a bunch of vignettes,

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which is basically the same thing as a Christmas vacation

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national lampoon a Christmas vacation. It is the arc of

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he wants a swimming pool, and then a bunch of

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vignettes that go along with that family in.

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Speaker 4: The hat's right.

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Speaker 2: And then you pointed out that Home alone is really.

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Speaker 4: It's die hard for kids.

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Speaker 2: It's die hard for kids. I mean, there are a

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few select plot lines in the library that you could

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pick from, but these are definitely both dude with a

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problem right plot lines. But it goes beyond that, it does.

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Do you want to talk about that now? Are you

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want to save that for later? No, let's talk about

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it now. Okay, so let's talk about the similarities between

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Home Alone and Die Hard.

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Speaker 4: Okay, yeah, so these are the exact same movies, just

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flipped ones for adults and ones for kids.

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Speaker 2: Right, the beats are pretty similar.

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Speaker 4: The first similarity in these two movies the bad guy

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Hans Kruber and Harry the Burglar. They both pretend to

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Speaker 2: Yeah, Hans Gruber is a guy who works in the building, right,

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that's what he's pretending to be, Bill Clay, and then

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Joe Peshy's at the very beginning of the movie pretending

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Speaker 4: Oh God, you're not one of them, are you?

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Speaker 2: Because he's Californian. Check out our Diehard versus Leath the

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Weapon podcast from last year, one of our best series

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of podcasts. Yeah, I love that one.

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Speaker 4: Okay, what else you got?

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Speaker 2: Okay, So close to the end of the movie, both

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of those same two guys have a amazing and incredibly

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painful looking fall straight back.

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Speaker 4: That is very true. That is very true.

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Speaker 2: Hans Rubber falls to his death. Ja, I hope that's

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not one of the hostages. And Joe Peshy steps on

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the slick steps and does the most painful looking knock

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the breath out of you, back splash into the concrest.

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here's the other thing. At the very end of the movie,

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who comes to the rescue somebody from left field?

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Speaker 2: Right right, you've got Al who's.

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Speaker 4: Sergeant Al Powell shows up at just the right time,

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pulls his gun to blow away. And also you've got

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old man Marley shows up with a snowshell.

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Speaker 2: Yep, another fantastic hit straight out of Looney Tunes.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, sure enough.

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Speaker 2: Both movies end with an embrace of somebody who they've

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have John reuniting with Holly, and then you have Kevin

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reuniting with his mom. It's all very beautiful. I'll tell

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you this one. And if you look closely at this one,

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you're gonna be like, wow, where did John Hughes really

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watch it? Dieheart? And the copy beat for beat. So

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you remember when John McClain first sees Hans come in

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with mister Takagi, right, Mistercai, Yes, where's he hiding, John McClain, Yes,

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under the table, under the table, And the first time

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we see the bad guys in Home Alone, what does

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mcaulay culkin do? What does Kevin do? He runs upstairs

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and I and then it is the same perspective, little

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crouched down, hidden underneath the bed instead of underneath the table.

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Speaker 4: Hey, I'll tell you another similarity.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, both movies.

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Speaker 4: Have guys picking glass out of their feet.

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Speaker 2: That's right, Yes, that's hilarious.

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Speaker 4: Although Marv does not say all thanks being equal, he'd

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rather be Philadelphia.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, okay. And then, of course, the thing that I

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really started diving into this, You have two fantastic scenes

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both movies. Bad guy gets shot in the crotch.

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Speaker 4: Next time you have a chance to shoot someone, don't hesitate.

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Speaker 2: Thanks for the advice.

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Speaker 4: These movies are great. I can't wait to dive into these.

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I actually did see both of these in the theater.

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I saw a Christmas Story when I was a fifth grader.

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I have vivid memories of seeing it because it was

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one of the greatest movie watching experiences I've ever had. Okay, Okay,

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now I'm gonna say the same thing for Home Alone,

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because both times I saw this I laughed my butt off. Okay, yeah,

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potatoes was like the epitome of humor for me. Right,

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So I have wonderful memories of seeing it as the

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last year The Diehard was my greatest movie watching experience.

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Speaker 2: There for for sure, Yeah, for sure.

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Speaker 4: Amazing. All right, guys, let's take a quick break. We're

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going to intro a new podcast out there right now.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, plan your work, and work your plan. For many athletes,

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saying such as this could be considered scripture, permanent signposts

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lining the long road to success in sports. For some,

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the very act of pursuing a career in sports can

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give you a sense of control, a sense of safety,

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so long as you stick to the plan. That is,

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until life happens. The kind of life that happens while

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you're making other plans, breakdowns insecurity, panic attacks, PTSD, addiction,

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sudden life changes, ones that require an athlete to toss

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aside their well laid plans and answer the question what's

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your next play? Blindsided is a pod about sports, mental health,

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and life.

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Speaker 4: Hosted by former NAHL goalie Corey Hirsch and psychiatrist doctor

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Diane McIntosh. The podcast will share and analyze the moments

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for a variety of athletes when everything changed for them

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and what happened when it did. The podcast let's listeners

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hear the athletes describe moments when mental health became the

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most important focus of their lives.

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Speaker 2: Blindsided then dives deeper, It gets clinical, and it allows

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listeners to leave with an understanding of the different varieties

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of mental health challenges people face, why they appear, and

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how athletes in particular face them down. Blindsided is a

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sports podcast not only for people who follow sports, but

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also for those who don't. All right, guys, go check

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out Blindside. Okay, let's look back at the history and

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see how these two amazing films came to be.

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Speaker 4: Okay, sounds good, All right, So we'll start with a

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Christmas story.

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Speaker 2: It was the oldest of the two, right, yes, and

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you can see opening credit. It is based on the

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stories of Gene Shepherd. The book he had was called

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in God We Trust all others make cash. But really

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it's from some of those stories from that book, but

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also a series of stories that he did in a

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speaking engagement that he would do from college campus to

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college campus. This guy his whole life, he's spent in

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radio and TV doing these short stories. He's got an

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entrancing voice. You know, he's the best narrator. My gosh, yeah, absolutely.

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it doesn't seem very ready for the articles.

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Speaker 2: So one particular day in the late sixties, a young

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man named Robert Clark Bob Clark, was driving around his car.

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this story and he's like, what is this. It's like

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this is interesting? And so he like's like, I'll circle

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the block and hear the rest of the story instead

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of picking up his date. So he circles the block

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and then again, and then forty five minutes later, the

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story is finally over and his girl isn't there waiting

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Speaker 4: That girl can go because he gave us a Christmas story.

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Speaker 2: So that plan to the seed. Late sixties. Bob Clark

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he hits up Geene Shepherd, and Geen Shepherd's like, who

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in Miami, and he's like, what movies. He's like, I

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don't have any movies yet, and so not interested, not interested? Right.

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his career. He ends up going up to Canada, right,

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start making movies in Canada. So in the early seventies

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he starts making, as you would expect, horror movies. Right,

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everybody starts off with horror movies.

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Speaker 4: They're cheap and they're.

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Speaker 2: Easy, right. His first one is called Children Shouldn't Play

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with Dead Things. He's got Death Dream, He's got Black Christmas,

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a big fish in a little pond up there in Canada.

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movie called moon Runners, which is about moonshine Runners. It

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ended up being the source material for a TV show

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you might have heard of called The Dukes of Hazzards.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, wow, that's fantastic.

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he was a part of that. In two thousand and

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Speaker 2: Yeah. And then in nineteen eighty one he ends up

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doing this movie that everybody knows from the early eighties.

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the first rated R movie that you ever saw? And

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this was the number one response. Yeah, yeah, Porky's.

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Speaker 4: Yep, I've never seen porky'sd Have you seen Porky's.

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Speaker 2: You've never seen Porky Porkyes, no, yes, I've seen Porky's.

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Speaker 4: I would like my friend Mark Mingel, I was way

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too young in nineteen eighty one to see RAA movies.

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you go. Okay. So at this point he's become pretty

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dang famous. I mean, Porky's was huge in nineteen eighty one,

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and so he's like, hey, I want to finally do

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my Jean Shepherd story of the kid who wants a

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red writer be begun movie. And the studios are still like, no,

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narration is dead. We don't want to have a narrator story.

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finally he gets just a little bit of a budget

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and he says, listen, I will forego my standard director's

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fee if you'll just put a little bit more of

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the movie. And they end up making this movie for

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less than five million dollars. It's insane. Three point three

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million dollars. Released November eighteenth, nineteen eighty three. Hey, I've

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got something on Bob Clark for you. Okay, go ahead.

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Speaker 4: So Bob Clark, after he did Christmas Story, he went

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on to do the fantastic movie called Rhinestone Dolly Barton.

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Speaker 2: So thats you're still owe bit take.

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Speaker 4: He also did two from the Hips some other movies

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like that. But I will tell you this.

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Speaker 2: He did From the Hip.

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Speaker 4: He did From the Hip.

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Speaker 2: Oh, that's a great one. That's that's David E Kelly's

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first script made into a movie. David E Kelly, who

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did The Practice, who did La Law, who did Boston Legal?

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and yeah, nine Perfect Strangers. Yeah, so awesome.

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Speaker 4: Okay, So I got a little tidbit for you on

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Speaker 2: Okay, okay.

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Speaker 4: Bob Clark has the distinction of being one of only

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two directors to have a movie on both Roger Ebert's

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Great Movies List and Most Hated List. Oh okay, Bob

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Clarks of course was christ Story is on the Greatest

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Speaker 2: Right?

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Speaker 4: You know the other one?

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Speaker 2: I'm gonna go with Baby Geniuses.

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Speaker 4: Too, Baby Geniuses.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I didn't see that one.

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Speaker 4: Baby Geniuses, Baby Geniuses two.

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Speaker 2: I don't know. Okay, it doesn't matter. They're both terrible.

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Speaker 4: You know who the other director is?

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Speaker 2: No, Rob Bryaner.

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Speaker 4: Meathead.

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Speaker 2: Okay, so Rob Reiner, does it stand by me? Or

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is it Princess Bride?

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Speaker 4: It's it's Princess Briane.

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Speaker 2: Okay, that's the best one. What's the best one? That's

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the worst one?

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Speaker 4: North with Elijah Wood.

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Speaker 2: I haven't seen that movie. I haven't neither. Well, all right,

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apparently we're not missing it, although you can't. You can't

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always know from good taste, because Roger Ebert and Jean

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Siskoll both thumbs down on Home Alone. Right, it's crazy,

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it is nuts. It is nuts. They're like it's old

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tired formula, right, Like they took Diehard and they just

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be a kid. Right. They didn't like it. So wrong,

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so so wrong. He ends up going to college and

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then gets a scholarship to play football and as a quarterback.

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He was a scholarship quarterback in college. Really yeah?

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Speaker 4: Wow.

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Speaker 2: So Bob Clark finally gets to make his movie. It's

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released in nineteen eighty three. It has minimal success, but

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ultimately develops a cult following. Well, we know from our

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prior episode that a young man was living in an

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apartment near the time that a Christmas story came out

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that had little mice who would run across his fingers

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as he slept in the tenement house that he was in.

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This led to him writing a script for a movie

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about little critters that invaded a house that he called Grimlins.

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That's right, Chris Columbus wrote Grimlins. Right, So Chris Columbus

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gets that script in front of Steven Spielberg, Joe Dante

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is signed to direct, and Chris Columbus gets to come

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out and be a part of the production. You'll remember

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from our Grimlins episode that I said he was super

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excited about meeting White Accident, not because White Accident had

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written all of these wonderful songs because he was a

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great actor, but because his mom had written an incredibly

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famous Elvis song called Herbrey Hotel.

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Speaker 6: Yes, well, this is my bed, find a new place

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to dwelt in the lone street that hartbreyto and wow.

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Speaker 2: And so sure enough, a little bit later on, Chris

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Columbus gets to direct his own movie, which is what

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he wanted to do. He it's looked at as he's

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the new John Hughes. He directs this.

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Speaker 4: Movie called Adventures and Babysitting.

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Speaker 2: Adventures in Babysitting Elizabeth schu Oh my one of my

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childhood crushes, for sure. And then he goes on and

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directs another movie which is called Heartbreak Odell. Yes, and

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it does. Yeah, it craps the pot it does, Yeah,

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it does.

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Speaker 4: It does not do well at all. And he thought

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his directing career was over.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, he thought of oh one and done, you know,

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like I had my chance, I got that big hit

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and then I lost it with Heartbreak Hotel.

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Speaker 4: Well, it helps to have powerful friends, because John Hughes

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calling and said, I've got a project I want you to.

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Speaker 2: Direct from me.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, and he's like, oh, fantastic.

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Speaker 2: What is it. It's a Christmas story about the Griswolds.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, well, otherwise known as Christmas Vacation.

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Speaker 7: Is that time did.

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Speaker 4: The bottom that untimely?

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Speaker 2: Yeah? So he reads the script, He's like, oh, this

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is great. I'd love to I love Christmas movies. Yes,

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I'd love to be a part of this.

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Speaker 4: So he shows up, starts working, talking to the stars,

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and there's one particular person who became so insufferable that

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he had to bail out.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, Chevy Chase basically treated him like crap. He's like,

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you don't know what you're doing. And Chevy We've talked

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about Chevy Chase's ability to get along with other human beings.

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And christ Columbus didn't know what to do. I mean,

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he's like he was disregarding everything. I would say, he

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didn't respect me. There was just nothing I could do.

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And he so he calls up John Hughes and he

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doesn't even have to say the words. John Hughes is like,

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you know what, I don't think this is the right

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movie for you. I've got another one that you might

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be interested in.

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Speaker 4: It's incredible. So Chris Columbus gets a big break to

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do the National Lampoon.

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Speaker 2: Christmas Vacation movie.

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Speaker 4: Next thing, he knows he's out, but John Hughes in

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the weak Gap. There is one week. One week he

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wrote two scripts YEP. One of which was this little

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project called Home Alone. Yeah, and he adds it to

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Chris Columbus and says, I want you to direct this one.

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Speaker 2: So this part this blew my mind. The way John

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Hughes worked, he would start writing on a Friday night

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and he would have a script finished by Sunday.

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Speaker 4: Morning, Like polished.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, like it's done, and it's not just a script.

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It's Breakfast Club, it's sixteen candles, it's science, I mean what.

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He would just crank it out in a couple of days,

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and it was known like when John Hughes showed up

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for the filming part of things, you didn't deviate from

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the script because John Hughes was like, the words that

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are perfect are the words that I wrote down. So

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you don't change those words unless you're John Candy. And

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he had so much respect for John Candy. He was like,

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just let him, let him riff and it's going to

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be gold.

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Speaker 4: You know. It's interesting because I did hear Columbus say

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that when an actor deviated from the script, John Hughes's

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ear would perk up and be like, no, we're gonna

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do it my way.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, okay. So he had directed John Candy in both Planes,

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Trains and Automobiles and in Uncle Buck.

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Speaker 8: Those are two of John Candy's best roles, absolutely absolutely,

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maybe best, yeah, I mean, and he wrote The Great Outdoors,

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which is another one of John Candy's.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, crazy, Now that's interesting. He wrote movies, but he

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didn't direct them, all right.

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Speaker 4: He didn't really like the directing part. I think he

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liked it, okay, But he's just he was so prolific

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as a writer.

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Speaker 2: I don't think he had time. I mean from just

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to hear this from nineteen eighty four, Here we Go

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nineteen eighty four, Sixteen Candles nineteen eighty five, The Breakfast

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Club nineteen eighty five, Weird Science nineteen eighty six, Very

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Dealer's Day Off nineteen eighty seven, Planes, Trains and Automobiles

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nineteen eighty eight, She's having a Baby nineteen eighty nine,

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Uncle Buck. I mean, in that short of a time period,

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he was cranking him out. I don't think he could

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have possibly directed all of the scripts that he was writing,

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because he was busy enough directing the ones that he had.

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Speaker 4: There is not a bad movie in that list right there.

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Speaker 2: Well, the last one on the list came out in

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ninety one, and that's Curly Suit. Well, the nineties were

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a different story for John Hughes.

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Speaker 8: It was.

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Speaker 2: It was a different story. We can get into that

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a little bit, Okay. So Chris Columbus comes on to

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direct this movie called Home Alone, right, Yes, And as

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with all movies, you have to get a budget for

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the movie, and John Hughes calls up the guys at

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Warner Brothers and he says, hey, I got this movie.

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They're like, okay, tell us about it. And he says, okay,

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kid at Home Alone, all right, how much ten million?

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If you can make that movie for ten million dollars,

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you can do it, right, And that's what they said. Yeah,

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So they go where else are they going to go

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with the John Hughes movies, Chicago, Chicago Suburbs, and they

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set up shop. They set up their back lot at

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the same high school that they filmed Ferris Peeler's Day

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Off and Uncle Buck. It was called the New Trier School.

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The school had been shut down, and so they set

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up offices, they set up all of the sets and

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they got to work.

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Speaker 4: It's kind of interesting. So the school basically ran out

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of students. I guess the neighborhood matured and there weren't

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any young kids anymore. And so they could set up

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the art department in you know, like the math area,

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you know, and the production part in the English area,

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and they had it all kind of right there.

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Speaker 2: And they had a giant gymnasium with rafters that you

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could hang lights from it's the perfect place for a

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back lot set up. Right now, everybody knows that beautiful

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house that they have for Kevin's family, right, there's to

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all kinds of memes, like I want to know what

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Kevin's dad did for a living to be able to

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afford this out because it's gorgeous. Yes, but they only

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really did the exterior shots because the house's house. You

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can't set up and film and get all your lighting

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in a house. And so basically they recreated all of

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the important interior shots from house in that gymnasium, except

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for when they had to do the flood scenes.

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Speaker 4: Right, the flood scenes, they had to build the house

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again in the like the empty pool and the high

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school Olympic sized pool.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, if you watch the end scene, the

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wet bandits have caused flooding and the water's going everywhere,

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and they're like, how are we going to do this?

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Where's the water going to go? And then they're wandering

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around the school and they come into a building and

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it's the old pool and they're like, it's perfect.

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Speaker 4: Let's just pour water into the house and let it

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hit the pool.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, the pool's got a dream yep. Okay, so we've

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wandered into production a little bit here. Why don't we

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jump back to a Christmas Story and tak casting.

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Speaker 4: Okay, so there's some interesting people that were considered for

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roles in A Christmas Story.

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Speaker 8: Right.

471
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Speaker 2: They literally had thousands of people try out for the

472
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part of Ralphie Parker, right, Ralph Parker. The very first

473
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one that tried out Peter Billingsley, right, who at the

474
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time was kind of an established actor. He had been

475
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in quite a few commercials, and he was a part

476
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of this TV show called Real People, Right, and so, hey,

477
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here's a kid who's you know, he's got experience, he

478
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knows what he's doing. Seems like the obvious choice. But

479
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then they went ahead and auditioned several thousand other kids.

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Speaker 4: Anyway, They thought he was too famous to be Ralphie

481
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in this movie, right, which is crazy.

482
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Speaker 2: You remember the Hershey Syrup commercials, right, I do, Yeah,

483
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I do?

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Speaker 4: Which is kind of crazy that the Oval team played such.

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Speaker 2: A big car right right inside joke.

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Speaker 4: When he gets hit in the face of a snowball. Huh.

487
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I just can't picture anybody else but those sad, giant,

488
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pale blue eyes.

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Speaker 2: Right. Well, the backstory on that one was it took

490
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several takes, and the guys who were throwing the snowballs

491
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had gotten pretty good at it, and so they nailed

492
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him hard. And so that take that he got, the

493
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one where he was literally upset and crying because it hurt.

494
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He's getting I mean, it was the temperatures that they

495
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were foaming in ranged from negative twenty four to negative twenty.

496
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It was cold. And your ball hit by your fifth

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or sixth or seventh slush ball in.

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Speaker 4: The eye, I'd be crying too, you know what he

499
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said when they hit him some of them.

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Speaker 2: That's a great moment. That's a great moment.

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Speaker 4: Okay, so listen to this. So Will Wheaton is one

502
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of those guys who auditioned for Ralphie, the guy who

503
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goes on to play Gordy and stand by me. Yeah,

504
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and then he does the most amazing narration of Ready.

505
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Speaker 2: Player one Ready Player one.

506
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Speaker 4: Melinda Dillon got this part because Bob Clark liked her

507
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in Close Encounters.

508
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Speaker 2: She was top billing because of that. I mean. Darren

509
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McGavin had been around for a while, but his was

510
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mostly TV stuff, you know, in character parts. He's in

511
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the Natural two and that sort of thing. But she

512
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was Melinda Dillon was the top bill.

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Speaker 4: Close Encounters was long ways before this. But here's the

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name that really blows me away.

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Speaker 2: Are you ready for this one? Yes?

516
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Speaker 4: The Old Man. The person that almost became the Old

517
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Man and wanted the part, Jack Nicholson.

518
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Speaker 2: Yeah, I knew that, and it would have messed everything up.

519
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It really would have.

520
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Speaker 4: The Old Man is not the he's not the main character.

521
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Speaker 2: He is though, he is so important, but he can't

522
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be the guy who takes over the show. He has

523
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to be the one that is the driving train behind everything.

524
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I mean, if you look at it, it's really a

525
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movie that's as much about him as anybody else. I mean,

526
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Ralphie is watching What's going On with his dad so

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much of the time. That part was hugely important, and

528
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Geene Shepherd said there were a lot of famous guys.

529
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I'm sure he was thinking of Jack Nicholson, but Darren

530
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McGavin was the most important pick for that movie because

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he could be Dad without being somebody who's too big

532
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and trivy star to be Dad.

533
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Speaker 4: Can someone tell me kind of a world we live

534
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in where a man has to fight his fairness and

535
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the neighborhood does.

536
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Speaker 2: That's awesome. By the way, all of that profanity was

537
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completely ad lived and he had a lot of trouble

538
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not saying actual profane words because they wanted a PG rating.

539
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Speaker 4: So can This happened in both movies, that sort of

540
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cartoon gibberish that they hit yep in a Christmas store.

541
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Doug Joe Peschi has to do the same thing and Homeo.

542
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Speaker 2: Joe Pesci was mad about the script. He like, comes,

543
00:27:32,640 --> 00:27:35,039
He's like, I can't do the script and why not?

544
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He goes, because there's no f's in here, And I'm

545
00:27:38,559 --> 00:27:41,359
like what He's like, listen, that's just how I talk, man,

546
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I mean he did. I wouldn't say, you know, hi,

547
00:27:44,440 --> 00:27:48,480
missus Johnson, how you doing. I'd say, hi, missus e

548
00:27:48,599 --> 00:27:52,119
fing Johnson, how's your effing dad? Right?

549
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Speaker 4: You told me that. He that's how you read scripts.

550
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If there's missing F words, he reads them anyway.

551
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Speaker 2: Yeah, he puts them in himself, and so I think

552
00:28:00,880 --> 00:28:02,200
what he did with this one is he had to

553
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put them in and then take them back out. So

554
00:28:04,519 --> 00:28:07,799
you see him wentz a few times before a few things.

555
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He's trying not to say.

556
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Speaker 4: The boll when he says shoot. He says shoot. It

557
00:28:14,319 --> 00:28:17,559
is the most forced non cuss word you've ever seen.

558
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Speaker 2: That's hilarious.

559
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Speaker 4: I do think the cartoon profanity, you know, the Looney

560
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Tunes like language that shows up in both of these

561
00:28:26,279 --> 00:28:28,599
movies was super funny to me as a kid, and

562
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it's still endearing as an adult.

563
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Speaker 2: Absolutely.

564
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Speaker 4: I love that I can watch all of these movies

565
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at any time with my kids.

566
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Speaker 2: So one of the other kids that auditioned for the

567
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part was a kid named Scott Schwartz, right, who had

568
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come out with a movie just before this called The

569
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Toy mm hmm with mister Richard pryor mister Jackie Gleeson.

570
00:28:51,200 --> 00:28:53,200
I mean, I watched The Toy all the time when

571
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I was a kid. It's Richard Donner directed it. Yeah,

572
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it's a great movie. I mean I think it was.

573
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It was great back in the eighties when I was

574
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watching it, right, I mean, you remember the painting scene right. Anyway,

575
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So he'd been in hundreds of commercials, he's been in

576
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this movie where he's the main title character, and then

577
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he auditions for this part and it's not really even

578
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an audition, it is it is he goes to meet

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Bob Clark and Bob Clark's just talking to him, and

580
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Bob Clark says, you know what I had? I missed

581
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lunch today. You want to go there? I have a

582
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hot dog? And he's like, yeah, I love hot dogs.

583
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You know he's a kid. Of course, that's what he's

584
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going to say, right, So they go downstairs, they have

585
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a hot dog. They go back upstairs and he's like,

586
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you know, Scott has wondered. Wonderful to meet you. I

587
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have a great day. I look forward to talking to

588
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you again soon. And so Scott leaves walks back to

589
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his agent's office with his dad seven minutes away. I

590
00:29:43,519 --> 00:29:46,559
mean there, that's literally like down the street. They walk in,

591
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she's like what'd you do? And they said what do

592
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you mean? And she goes, well you did something right

593
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because you got the part. And he's like, we had

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a hot dog. I mean that was it.

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Speaker 4: Wow.

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Speaker 2: But when they send him the script, there's no name

597
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on it. He doesn't know that he's playing Flick. He

598
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just gets a script and so he's thinking, well, I've

599
00:30:06,599 --> 00:30:09,799
just done this big movie. And so first thing he

600
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does is he goes and counts all the lines. Of course,

601
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that's what you do when you're a kid, right, And

602
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so he counts all of Ralfie's lines, thinking he's going

603
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to be Ralphie. Well they show up and Bob Clark

604
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is like, all right, uh, Peter, you're gonna be Ralfie. Scott,

605
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you're gonna be flick rd You'll be Schwartz. And so

606
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he's like, ah, so I'm not Ralphie and I'm not

607
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even Schwartz even though my name is Schwartz. Yeah, really

608
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I'm flick Okay, Well all right, and he goes through

609
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and he looks at it. He's like, well, at least

610
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you get to stick my tongue.

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Speaker 4: With the pole that, you know. Scott Schwartz went on

612
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to have sort of a rough nineties and early two thousands.

613
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Speaker 2: It's a colorful career.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, he was acting.

615
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Speaker 2: Here's a guy from Jersey doing what he can to

616
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make the ends meet.

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Speaker 4: Oh my gosh, he did some of the some of

618
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the doubting.

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Speaker 2: I haven't seen any of this. No, he's doing much better.

620
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Speaker 4: One other things I want to mention Teddy Moore, who

621
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plays Miss Shields.

622
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Speaker 2: Yes, she was eight.

623
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Speaker 4: Months pregnant when they filmed this. Oh wow, okay, so

624
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in order for her to be miss Shields. They didn't

625
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want to show an unmarried mother in the late thirties

626
00:31:16,720 --> 00:31:19,880
early forties, right, And so what they did is they

627
00:31:20,000 --> 00:31:22,279
just bowled her up and made her chunky.

628
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Speaker 2: So she wasn't that heavy.

629
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Speaker 4: Not she's not big.

630
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Speaker 2: Oh wow, that is that's crazy. Okay, So that's a

631
00:31:28,920 --> 00:31:33,039
Christmas story. Let's move on to casting for Home Alu.

632
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Speaker 7: Talking around Christmas tree and Christmas right now.

633
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Speaker 2: I know, as we mentioned, John Hughes had directed Uncle

634
00:31:46,400 --> 00:31:51,000
Buck and had this young star in Uncle Buck who's

635
00:31:51,039 --> 00:31:53,200
really kind of a side character, but he really did

636
00:31:53,240 --> 00:31:57,559
some amazing work with John Candy kid named Macaulay Culkin,

637
00:31:57,839 --> 00:31:59,920
and so he thinks, I wonder if I could write

638
00:32:00,119 --> 00:32:03,880
a movie with a nine year old as the main character, right,

639
00:32:04,240 --> 00:32:06,640
And that really is how the script for Home Alone

640
00:32:06,680 --> 00:32:07,079
came to be.

641
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Speaker 4: So there's two scenes from Uncle Buck that got us

642
00:32:10,359 --> 00:32:13,920
Home Alone and got us specifically mcaulay Culker. Yeah, okay,

643
00:32:14,319 --> 00:32:16,720
So there's the scene at the beginning with John Candy

644
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when he's quizzing with questions.

645
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Speaker 2: Fantastic scene. Where do you live in the city? You

646
00:32:21,759 --> 00:32:24,480
have a house, apartment, rent? What do you do for

647
00:32:24,519 --> 00:32:24,880
a living?

648
00:32:25,039 --> 00:32:27,920
Speaker 7: Lots of things. I don't have one. How come I

649
00:32:27,920 --> 00:32:30,759
don't need one? Don't have one? How come it's a

650
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long story?

651
00:32:31,440 --> 00:32:32,000
Speaker 2: You have kids?

652
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Speaker 7: No, I don't come it's an even longer story.

653
00:32:34,759 --> 00:32:35,440
Speaker 2: My dad's brother.

654
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Speaker 7: What's your record for consecutive questions asked? I'm your dad's brother.

655
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Speaker 2: All right, you have much more hair in your knows

656
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of my dad.

657
00:32:42,440 --> 00:32:44,119
Speaker 7: How nice of you to notice I'm a kid.

658
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Speaker 2: That's my job.

659
00:32:45,000 --> 00:32:47,279
Speaker 4: You got much more hair in your nose than my dad.

660
00:32:48,000 --> 00:32:49,400
How do I see you to notice I'm a kid,

661
00:32:49,440 --> 00:32:52,400
that's my job, right right, laugh out loud moment.

662
00:32:52,200 --> 00:32:52,960
Speaker 2: And Uncle Bucky.

663
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Speaker 4: But then there's a scene where Uncle Buck has to

664
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go chase after the oldest daughter in the family and

665
00:32:59,400 --> 00:33:01,440
he has to leave the kids there at home until

666
00:33:01,880 --> 00:33:05,480
Shenise can come over home alone. He's home alone. Oh,

667
00:33:05,759 --> 00:33:08,519
he's home alone. And there's a funny scene where he's

668
00:33:08,559 --> 00:33:10,720
sitting right by the door and he's talking to her

669
00:33:10,720 --> 00:33:13,279
through the mailshoot. Yeah, it's super cute, and he asked

670
00:33:13,279 --> 00:33:15,720
her to get her license out so he can verify

671
00:33:15,759 --> 00:33:19,599
this her and he actually peeks out the mail shoot

672
00:33:19,599 --> 00:33:22,400
at one point and sees three bad guys. It's like,

673
00:33:23,119 --> 00:33:28,319
it's really cute. That scene gave us home alone. Yeah,

674
00:33:28,359 --> 00:33:31,960
it's incredible, it's great. So you're right, mcaulay Culkin was

675
00:33:32,079 --> 00:33:36,039
the one and really only Kevin McAllister, right, John Hughes

676
00:33:36,119 --> 00:33:39,240
wanted him, but they did bring in other people to

677
00:33:39,319 --> 00:33:41,759
look at right, Okay. Well, in fact, the kid who

678
00:33:41,799 --> 00:33:47,440
played the neighbor, the neighbor. Yeah right, what's the gas

679
00:33:47,480 --> 00:33:50,960
mileage on this car icol in France?

680
00:33:51,039 --> 00:33:51,440
Speaker 2: Right now?

681
00:33:51,799 --> 00:33:55,079
Speaker 4: That kid auditioned for the role of Kevin mcows.

682
00:33:55,039 --> 00:33:57,160
Speaker 2: So I saw that kid, and I'm like, I know

683
00:33:57,240 --> 00:34:00,279
that kid from somewhere. It's Overboard. He's one of the

684
00:34:00,279 --> 00:34:01,839
the three sons in Overboard.

685
00:34:02,119 --> 00:34:07,160
Speaker 4: Well the kids gets poison ivy, yes, all right, Mitch Murphy,

686
00:34:07,519 --> 00:34:11,760
Jeffrey Wiseman, Okay, now, then Harry and Marv. Right, okay,

687
00:34:12,119 --> 00:34:16,599
big list here. So Marv was like the sidekick to

688
00:34:16,760 --> 00:34:20,639
Joe Peshi's character, right right, Christopher Lloyd was looked at

689
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to be Marv.

690
00:34:21,639 --> 00:34:23,840
Speaker 2: I can see that Tim Robbins was considered to be

691
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the role of Marv.

692
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Speaker 4: I can also see that you need him tall and

693
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skinny to Joe Pesci's sort.

694
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Speaker 2: Of ye short and plump. It's the whole thumb pinky theory.

695
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Speaker 4: The thumb pinky theory.

696
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Speaker 2: Give credit to my roommate in college, Clay Yoakum for

697
00:34:37,760 --> 00:34:40,599
that one. I was you see how many times you've

698
00:34:40,639 --> 00:34:43,039
got a short, fat guy next to a tall, thin guys? Oh,

699
00:34:43,360 --> 00:34:44,239
thumb pinky theory.

700
00:34:44,880 --> 00:34:49,239
Speaker 4: So that role eventually went to a guy named Daniel Roebuck. Roebuck,

701
00:34:49,760 --> 00:34:53,039
not Stern, not Stern. We'll come back to Daniel Roebuck. Okay,

702
00:34:53,159 --> 00:34:56,639
So Harry, he's the main burglar. He's like the lead burglar.

703
00:34:56,719 --> 00:34:59,719
This is Joe Peshi's character, right, okay, So here are

704
00:34:59,719 --> 00:35:00,719
the name as you ready for this?

705
00:35:00,880 --> 00:35:01,039
Speaker 2: Yep?

706
00:35:01,320 --> 00:35:06,880
Speaker 4: Okay, we are talking about John Lovett's Rowan Atkinson, Bob Hoskins,

707
00:35:07,280 --> 00:35:08,199
Danny de Vito.

708
00:35:08,519 --> 00:35:10,000
Speaker 2: Yeah, all short and plump.

709
00:35:10,559 --> 00:35:11,519
Speaker 4: Robert de Niro?

710
00:35:11,760 --> 00:35:14,400
Speaker 2: Am I wrong? Robert de Niro is a little too tall, I.

711
00:35:14,320 --> 00:35:16,559
Speaker 4: Think, right, Kevin Pollock, that's right?

712
00:35:16,679 --> 00:35:19,960
Speaker 2: Yeah, because Chris Columbus loved Raging Bull and so he

713
00:35:20,039 --> 00:35:22,639
wanted Robert de Niro and then was like, now, but

714
00:35:22,760 --> 00:35:23,760
what's joke as she doing?

715
00:35:23,840 --> 00:35:23,960
Speaker 7: Right?

716
00:35:24,000 --> 00:35:24,199
Speaker 8: Yeah?

717
00:35:24,320 --> 00:35:25,400
Speaker 2: Yeah? Yeah?

718
00:35:25,519 --> 00:35:27,679
Speaker 4: Here are the two names that blew me away though, okay,

719
00:35:27,719 --> 00:35:47,039
for the role of Harry Dudley Moore okay, and Phil Collins.

720
00:35:40,920 --> 00:35:43,360
Speaker 2: Honestly, I can see both of those. I could see

721
00:35:43,400 --> 00:35:46,559
it with the little British accent and the silliness. And

722
00:35:46,800 --> 00:35:48,960
you know, Phil Collins was a buster, I guess, so

723
00:35:49,000 --> 00:35:49,519
who knows?

724
00:35:49,599 --> 00:35:49,880
Speaker 8: Maybe?

725
00:35:50,000 --> 00:35:52,519
Speaker 4: Okay, all right, we want to talk about the McAllister's

726
00:35:52,559 --> 00:35:56,079
real quick sure, all right. Kate McAllister, the casting director,

727
00:35:56,159 --> 00:36:00,360
had been involved with Beetlejuice. So she loved Katherinehara, right,

728
00:36:00,400 --> 00:36:03,480
and she knew she was super funny, yes.

729
00:36:03,239 --> 00:36:04,800
Speaker 2: And so she was kind of a shoe in ye.

730
00:36:05,039 --> 00:36:07,639
Speaker 4: But the one name that they considered Christy.

731
00:36:07,400 --> 00:36:11,280
Speaker 2: Ally mm okay two pretty back in nineteen ninety eight.

732
00:36:11,400 --> 00:36:12,199
Speaker 4: She's kind of a babe.

733
00:36:12,280 --> 00:36:15,440
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, not mom material at that point, I think,

734
00:36:15,559 --> 00:36:20,280
could you see Christy Allie cobad maybe? Okay? Yeah.

735
00:36:20,360 --> 00:36:23,679
Speaker 4: So then the next role to Phil is Peter McAllister.

736
00:36:24,159 --> 00:36:24,760
That's the dad.

737
00:36:24,920 --> 00:36:25,159
Speaker 2: Yeah.

738
00:36:25,280 --> 00:36:28,199
Speaker 4: That role went to John Hurt, which you mentioned Black

739
00:36:28,239 --> 00:36:32,079
Christmas a few minutes ago, starring Margot Kidder, also the

740
00:36:32,079 --> 00:36:35,960
star of Superman one, two, three, four. Margot Kidder and

741
00:36:36,079 --> 00:36:39,800
John Hurd were married in the seventies. Oh yeah, that's right,

742
00:36:39,920 --> 00:36:46,880
for a glorious six days. Okay, all right, he figured

743
00:36:46,920 --> 00:36:50,000
out she was nutso and less than a week. Yeah,

744
00:36:50,639 --> 00:36:53,639
so anyway, I thought that was fine. Okay, so that

745
00:36:53,800 --> 00:36:56,440
role considered for the people. I mean, you've got big

746
00:36:56,519 --> 00:37:01,119
names like Michael Douglas, Kevin Costner, Martin Sheen, Dana, Charles

747
00:37:01,159 --> 00:37:04,039
Groden who ended up playing the old Man in the

748
00:37:04,079 --> 00:37:07,880
sequel to A Christmas Story, Judge Revolt, Tom Scarrett. I mean,

749
00:37:08,000 --> 00:37:09,440
these names, Steve Martin.

750
00:37:09,760 --> 00:37:12,519
Speaker 2: But here's the problem. As we mentioned before, this movie

751
00:37:12,519 --> 00:37:15,800
had to get made for ten million dollars. We couldn't

752
00:37:15,840 --> 00:37:17,559
have a movie that had these guys in it. They

753
00:37:17,599 --> 00:37:20,280
were too expensive. And at this point, Joe Peschi was

754
00:37:20,360 --> 00:37:24,039
not that expensive, and Daniel Roebuck Daniel Roebuck. But the

755
00:37:24,119 --> 00:37:28,320
chemistry between Daniel Roebuck and Joe Peschi was not good.

756
00:37:28,440 --> 00:37:31,559
Speaker 4: Okay, so here's the deal with that. Yeah, they Joe

757
00:37:31,599 --> 00:37:33,639
Peshi went to the producers. He's like, I don't think

758
00:37:33,760 --> 00:37:37,079
chemistry is there with this guy. They had shot one scene,

759
00:37:37,320 --> 00:37:40,719
they hadn't really worked together, right, Daniel Roebuck is still

760
00:37:40,880 --> 00:37:44,000
bitter about this whole process. Oh yeah, and who wouldn't be, right,

761
00:37:44,679 --> 00:37:47,400
I mean, it's one of the biggest hits of the decade.

762
00:37:47,039 --> 00:37:50,679
Speaker 2: And Daniel Stern had quit he quits.

763
00:37:51,159 --> 00:37:53,280
Speaker 4: Okay, we need to talk about that, okay.

764
00:37:53,360 --> 00:37:53,480
Speaker 2: Yo.

765
00:37:54,119 --> 00:37:56,519
Speaker 4: Daniel Stern was hired for six weeks with the work,

766
00:37:57,000 --> 00:37:58,480
and then they came back to and they said, well

767
00:37:58,559 --> 00:37:59,719
it's going to be eight weeks.

768
00:38:00,079 --> 00:38:00,280
Speaker 1: Huh.

769
00:38:00,320 --> 00:38:02,559
Speaker 4: He's like, okay, no problem. So do I get paid

770
00:38:02,599 --> 00:38:05,519
for eight weeks or just still six weeks? And they're like, no,

771
00:38:05,679 --> 00:38:07,440
just six weeks. He's like, well that's bull crap. I'm

772
00:38:07,480 --> 00:38:10,639
not working for eight weeks on six weeks worth of pay, right, So.

773
00:38:10,559 --> 00:38:13,599
Speaker 2: He quit, He quit, he bailed. You almost didn't have

774
00:38:13,719 --> 00:38:15,679
Daniel Stern in this movie.

775
00:38:16,480 --> 00:38:18,920
Speaker 4: Every time I see Daniel Stern, I see an iron

776
00:38:19,000 --> 00:38:20,280
imprint on his face, you know.

777
00:38:20,679 --> 00:38:22,039
Speaker 2: But fortunately he wised up.

778
00:38:22,079 --> 00:38:25,079
Speaker 4: So when they let go of Daniel Roebuck, they called

779
00:38:25,159 --> 00:38:29,079
Daniel Stern and Dianiel Starns like, ah, man, yeah, no problem,

780
00:38:29,159 --> 00:38:29,960
let's let's do this.

781
00:38:30,280 --> 00:38:30,480
Speaker 2: Right.

782
00:38:31,039 --> 00:38:33,400
Speaker 4: Just a couple more tidbits for you. The role of

783
00:38:33,519 --> 00:38:37,960
Uncle Frank, the jerk uncle. Right, yeah, look what you did,

784
00:38:38,119 --> 00:38:42,760
you little jerk. So something interesting was I found out

785
00:38:42,920 --> 00:38:46,159
he was originally written to be the master villain behind

786
00:38:46,159 --> 00:38:51,440
this whole home invasion plot. The original script had him

787
00:38:51,559 --> 00:38:55,719
as the guy that was bringing these burglars in and

788
00:38:55,880 --> 00:38:59,079
setting the whole thing in motion. Wow, so we hate

789
00:38:59,159 --> 00:39:02,960
him anyway. Yeah, so that role was written for Kelsey Grammer,

790
00:39:03,159 --> 00:39:04,519
really Kelsey Grammer.

791
00:39:04,639 --> 00:39:06,639
Speaker 2: Okay, that's interesting, Okay.

792
00:39:06,360 --> 00:39:08,920
Speaker 4: All right, cool, kind of interesting. And then the only

793
00:39:09,000 --> 00:39:12,000
other thing I want to mention is Kevin's cousin Fuller,

794
00:39:12,480 --> 00:39:14,320
the one he's worried about wedding the bed. That's his

795
00:39:14,440 --> 00:39:18,639
actual brother, Karen Culkin, right, who played Ralphie in the

796
00:39:18,880 --> 00:39:20,199
sequel to Christmas Story.

797
00:39:20,519 --> 00:39:23,679
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, what was that called a Summer Story? Yeah? Right,

798
00:39:23,760 --> 00:39:26,239
they had a few. Yeah, they had a few sequels,

799
00:39:26,239 --> 00:39:29,320
and they even had a Christmas Story two.

800
00:39:29,840 --> 00:39:32,119
Speaker 4: I wanted to watch this before we came in here.

801
00:39:32,239 --> 00:39:34,400
Speaker 2: I put it on you. I texted you, and you

802
00:39:34,559 --> 00:39:38,239
challenged me. This movie exists. You watch every crappy movie

803
00:39:38,280 --> 00:39:41,000
that is somehow related to a movie you watched under

804
00:39:41,039 --> 00:39:43,000
the Cherry Moon. I watched it on the Cherry Moon.

805
00:39:43,199 --> 00:39:46,199
Speaker 4: I could barely make it through the trailer of Christmas

806
00:39:46,199 --> 00:39:46,880
Story Part two.

807
00:39:47,119 --> 00:39:50,320
Speaker 2: Right, it is one of the worst rated movies I've

808
00:39:50,360 --> 00:39:53,840
ever seen. Like it's like a one point five or

809
00:39:54,079 --> 00:39:57,480
four or something on IMDb. They don't get that bad.

810
00:39:57,519 --> 00:39:58,800
I mean, you can't rate it as zero.

811
00:39:59,119 --> 00:40:00,639
Speaker 4: That means everybody one.

812
00:40:00,719 --> 00:40:03,159
Speaker 2: Yeah, you had one guy out there who put two?

813
00:40:04,000 --> 00:40:06,679
And do you know who plays the dad in that movie? Who?

814
00:40:07,000 --> 00:40:07,760
Daniel Stern?

815
00:40:08,000 --> 00:40:08,360
Speaker 4: WHOA.

816
00:40:08,760 --> 00:40:11,920
Speaker 2: So there you go. There's our crossover, there's our bridge.

817
00:40:12,039 --> 00:40:15,719
Speaker 4: That is awesome. One more quick thing. Yes, Alan Rickman

818
00:40:16,039 --> 00:40:20,039
was considered for the role of Harry Wow Alan Rickman,

819
00:40:20,119 --> 00:40:23,840
who played of course, Hans Hans Kruber in die Hard,

820
00:40:23,920 --> 00:40:29,320
who also starred McCaulay Culkin's aunt Bonnie Badelia, who played

821
00:40:29,760 --> 00:40:31,360
Holly freaking Gennaro.

822
00:40:31,519 --> 00:40:35,360
Speaker 2: There you go, all ties together. Okay, let's move into production. Okay.

823
00:40:35,440 --> 00:40:40,800
So these masterful movies are Seeing Gold followed by Seeing Gold.

824
00:40:40,920 --> 00:40:44,519
I mean they just don't really. There are no throwaway parts.

825
00:40:44,639 --> 00:40:46,960
You don't walk away unless it's you know, you know

826
00:40:47,000 --> 00:40:48,960
you're gonna catch it again in the next two hours

827
00:40:49,159 --> 00:40:52,400
because it's Christmas Day and it's on TNT. But it

828
00:40:52,480 --> 00:40:56,239
is solid gold from beginning to end on both of

829
00:40:56,280 --> 00:41:00,519
these movies, right, without question, one of the most memorable

830
00:41:00,559 --> 00:41:04,760
scenes in a Christmas story is sticking the tongue to

831
00:41:04,840 --> 00:41:10,199
the pole. I just will God, Dario right, it is okay.

832
00:41:10,440 --> 00:41:12,519
So the way that they worked that out. The special

833
00:41:12,519 --> 00:41:14,320
effects way that they worked it out. Remember this is

834
00:41:14,360 --> 00:41:17,159
a low budget movie. They hooked up a vacuum cleaner.

835
00:41:17,679 --> 00:41:20,239
They hooked up a vacuum into a pole right and

836
00:41:20,320 --> 00:41:22,199
painted it. And you see he always comes in from

837
00:41:22,239 --> 00:41:25,159
the side, and there's a little tiny hole that they

838
00:41:25,199 --> 00:41:27,519
had in this pole, and so the vacuum would start

839
00:41:27,920 --> 00:41:30,000
and the suction would pull that tongue, so he could

840
00:41:30,039 --> 00:41:32,599
actually pull away and his tongue would stay stuck. Well,

841
00:41:32,599 --> 00:41:34,679
this is the first time they've ever tried something like this.

842
00:41:35,119 --> 00:41:37,480
So the first time that they did it, it literally

843
00:41:37,480 --> 00:41:40,480
sucked his face onto the pole. Now you put his

844
00:41:40,559 --> 00:41:41,480
tongue on it, it sucked his.

845
00:41:41,440 --> 00:41:44,320
Speaker 4: Whole mouth and turned off turn off.

846
00:41:44,360 --> 00:41:46,880
Speaker 2: And so they reduced the power a little bit, got

847
00:41:46,920 --> 00:41:49,519
it to where just his tongue would stick on there.

848
00:41:49,760 --> 00:41:53,559
And then they filmed it. And it took twelve and

849
00:41:53,599 --> 00:41:56,760
a half hours to film that scene. What they were

850
00:41:56,760 --> 00:41:59,960
filming in the cold, I mean, I told you negative

851
00:42:00,159 --> 00:42:03,079
twenty four to negative twenty is where we were. You

852
00:42:03,079 --> 00:42:07,360
can see the kid's breath. Yes, they were wearing period clothing,

853
00:42:07,480 --> 00:42:09,719
so there was no lining in the gloves. I mean,

854
00:42:09,719 --> 00:42:12,800
they had little electric socks and electric warmers that they

855
00:42:12,840 --> 00:42:15,519
stuck on them, but these kids were freezing their butts off,

856
00:42:15,760 --> 00:42:18,480
and he had to shoot for twelve and a half hours.

857
00:42:19,119 --> 00:42:23,199
Then they take the film and they underdevelop it and

858
00:42:23,239 --> 00:42:25,920
he has to call him back and say, Scott, we

859
00:42:26,039 --> 00:42:29,920
gotta shoot that scene again, and he's like, so got

860
00:42:29,920 --> 00:42:32,000
good news, you get to film some more and bad

861
00:42:32,039 --> 00:42:35,239
news it's and so they really improved, and the second

862
00:42:35,280 --> 00:42:37,559
time they shot it, they got it done in eleven

863
00:42:37,599 --> 00:42:40,760
and a half hours. Oh my gosh. And at one point,

864
00:42:41,039 --> 00:42:44,039
no kidding, they broke for lunch and as a joke,

865
00:42:44,159 --> 00:42:46,599
all of the other actors left and he was still

866
00:42:46,639 --> 00:42:48,679
stuck to the hole and he's.

867
00:42:48,519 --> 00:42:51,119
Speaker 4: Like, wait, guys waiting there, Just leave you guys, come back,

868
00:42:53,239 --> 00:42:56,920
don't hear me. I've always wondered how that worked, because

869
00:42:57,320 --> 00:42:59,719
it's clear as day that his tongue is stuck to that.

870
00:43:00,239 --> 00:43:02,280
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, you know, but you're right.

871
00:43:02,320 --> 00:43:03,239
Speaker 4: You never see it straight on.

872
00:43:03,280 --> 00:43:06,239
Speaker 2: It's always to the side, right, arms are flailing. Okay.

873
00:43:06,320 --> 00:43:08,639
Speaker 4: That that scene is so funny when the teachers like

874
00:43:08,760 --> 00:43:13,920
where's Flick and they're like, flick, Flick who and then

875
00:43:13,960 --> 00:43:15,679
she comes back and gives them the guilt trip.

876
00:43:16,119 --> 00:43:19,039
Speaker 2: Adults always a same that stuff. But kids know it's

877
00:43:19,079 --> 00:43:20,079
always better not to keep.

878
00:43:20,280 --> 00:43:23,559
Speaker 4: I'm sure the guilt you feel it's far worse than

879
00:43:23,599 --> 00:43:24,360
any punishment.

880
00:43:24,440 --> 00:43:24,639
Speaker 2: Yeah.

881
00:43:24,679 --> 00:43:27,519
Speaker 4: I love that. That scene so funny. Let's talk about

882
00:43:27,960 --> 00:43:29,679
Scott Fargas for a second.

883
00:43:29,719 --> 00:43:31,320
Speaker 2: Okay, Okay, yeah.

884
00:43:31,239 --> 00:43:32,079
Speaker 4: It's not Scott.

885
00:43:32,320 --> 00:43:34,039
Speaker 2: I thought it was Scott for the longest time. I

886
00:43:34,079 --> 00:43:38,079
also thought it was Scott. But it's Scott with a U. Yes, yes, Farcas,

887
00:43:38,199 --> 00:43:40,360
so help me. Yellow eyes.

888
00:43:40,880 --> 00:43:43,519
Speaker 4: I love that that line. He does not have yellow eyes.

889
00:43:43,360 --> 00:43:45,559
Speaker 2: No, but people are sure that he does. People will

890
00:43:45,559 --> 00:43:47,800
meet him on the street and they're like, I remember

891
00:43:47,840 --> 00:43:51,559
your yellow eyes. He's like, right, I remember it.

892
00:43:52,119 --> 00:43:55,840
Speaker 4: Okay, then what a great bully though, you know, Oh

893
00:43:55,880 --> 00:43:58,559
fantastic when he's got he's got that laugh and they

894
00:43:58,599 --> 00:43:59,719
like freeze on their traction.

895
00:44:00,400 --> 00:44:03,360
Speaker 2: I gotta I gotta say that moment is the top

896
00:44:03,480 --> 00:44:06,599
moment in the whole movie for me, because it is, like,

897
00:44:06,880 --> 00:44:11,159
it's so emotionally packed. Ralphie has just gotten his C

898
00:44:11,400 --> 00:44:14,119
plus on the theme that he thought he was gonna

899
00:44:14,119 --> 00:44:17,559
get an A plus plus plus plus plus. Even with

900
00:44:17,639 --> 00:44:20,760
his bribe of the big basket of fruit, he still gets.

901
00:44:20,599 --> 00:44:25,480
Speaker 4: A C plus C plus plus yeah.

902
00:44:25,599 --> 00:44:30,719
Speaker 2: Shoot, So he's absolutely devastated walking home alone, doesn't even

903
00:44:30,760 --> 00:44:33,480
bother to walk home with his friends, and gets that

904
00:44:33,639 --> 00:44:35,920
snowball in the face. And he's the only kid that

905
00:44:35,960 --> 00:44:39,199
we don't actually see bullied, Like they get Schwartz, they

906
00:44:39,199 --> 00:44:43,039
get Flick, but you don't see this. But it's that moment.

907
00:44:43,320 --> 00:44:47,480
The tears are true and real and the rage is real,

908
00:44:48,000 --> 00:44:51,039
and you see him give it back to a bully

909
00:44:51,519 --> 00:44:55,960
and I mean, like heartstrings, I'm like, give it him

910
00:44:55,960 --> 00:45:00,480
back and then rape. And then when you think that the.

911
00:45:00,480 --> 00:45:04,280
Speaker 4: Dad is going to destroy him, Dad's gonna kill ralph

912
00:45:05,599 --> 00:45:08,000
Daddy will not kill Ralphie.

913
00:45:08,079 --> 00:45:11,960
Speaker 2: And the mom so subtly Ralphie got in a fight today.

914
00:45:12,000 --> 00:45:15,400
What oh I saw that the bears and points it out,

915
00:45:15,760 --> 00:45:18,360
gives him the light touch things for different between me

916
00:45:18,400 --> 00:45:19,159
and mom after that.

917
00:45:19,239 --> 00:45:20,159
Speaker 4: Yeah, great scene.

918
00:45:20,559 --> 00:45:21,039
Speaker 2: I love it.

919
00:45:21,119 --> 00:45:23,360
Speaker 4: I want to point out something else to Okay, let's

920
00:45:23,400 --> 00:45:27,599
give it up for our man Flick, who sacrifices himself

921
00:45:27,599 --> 00:45:31,480
for the best betterment of the of the group. Right,

922
00:45:32,079 --> 00:45:36,519
they're like, you come here, and he's like uncle, uncle, Uncle, uncle,

923
00:45:36,719 --> 00:45:41,199
He's already saying, right, and poor Randy's laying there like

924
00:45:41,239 --> 00:45:43,840
a slug you know, they go grab him and get

925
00:45:43,920 --> 00:45:44,400
up and they.

926
00:45:44,480 --> 00:45:48,800
Speaker 2: But yeah, Flynn comes.

927
00:45:48,519 --> 00:45:50,960
Speaker 4: To the rescue of everybody else. I was going to

928
00:45:51,000 --> 00:45:56,000
mention one other thing about the tongue, the tongue poll thing.

929
00:45:56,159 --> 00:45:59,400
So because of this scene, a bunch of kids tried

930
00:45:59,440 --> 00:46:02,800
this and learns a hard way that this really works. Yeah,

931
00:46:02,880 --> 00:46:06,519
your tongue will stick. Yeah to railroad ties, to light

932
00:46:06,599 --> 00:46:09,079
polls too. If it's cold enough, you're dug sticking.

933
00:46:09,280 --> 00:46:09,519
Speaker 2: Yeah.

934
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Speaker 4: Don't try this at home, kid.

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Speaker 2: You didn't learn it from a Christmas story. You should

936
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have learned it from dumb.

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Speaker 4: And dumber somebody called the fire department dummer.

938
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Speaker 2: Oh look Snow, this movie, as much as it is

939
00:46:23,599 --> 00:46:26,599
little vignettes that are strung together by the idea that

940
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this needs to You know that he has to get

941
00:46:28,440 --> 00:46:31,639
this red rider b begun. You've got a little orphan

942
00:46:31,679 --> 00:46:34,159
Annie and the dakoder pen drink be sure and drink

943
00:46:34,199 --> 00:46:38,840
your oval tine. And you've got the lamp, and you've

944
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got the changing of the tire.

945
00:46:41,480 --> 00:46:46,159
Speaker 4: Oh fuck, I didn't say fudge.

946
00:46:46,599 --> 00:46:50,360
Speaker 2: All of these brilliant little vignettes that lead along. But

947
00:46:50,480 --> 00:46:54,679
it's all really about his relationship with his dad and

948
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his dad who seems to not care unless the kids

949
00:46:57,880 --> 00:47:01,960
are annoying him, you know, and is always frustrated and angry.

950
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And then in the end he's the one who surprises

951
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him and mom by getting in the red Rider. He's

952
00:47:09,440 --> 00:47:10,519
been listening the whole time.

953
00:47:10,679 --> 00:47:13,960
Speaker 4: He's the only one that he didn't ask right. He

954
00:47:14,079 --> 00:47:15,760
never asked his dad right.

955
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Speaker 2: He yesked Sanna, he asked his teacher, he asked his

956
00:47:18,840 --> 00:47:22,159
mom right. He even snuck the advertisement inside the Life

957
00:47:22,199 --> 00:47:24,400
magazine to catch you unaware. Dad comes through.

958
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Speaker 4: Yeah, love it. Okay, d We've got a surely showcase

959
00:47:27,360 --> 00:47:29,960
this week from one of my best buddies from high school.

960
00:47:30,039 --> 00:47:32,000
His name's Chris Bauer. We used to call him Bomber

961
00:47:32,039 --> 00:47:33,719
all the time. He got me in trouble all the

962
00:47:33,840 --> 00:47:35,840
time in Sunday School. He's one of those guys that

963
00:47:36,119 --> 00:47:38,400
could make me laugh. I mean, I just cracked me

964
00:47:38,519 --> 00:47:39,320
up all the time.

965
00:47:39,480 --> 00:47:40,920
Speaker 2: Is this a guy that like hit you in the

966
00:47:40,920 --> 00:47:42,239
head with the cassette tape?

967
00:47:42,840 --> 00:47:47,440
Speaker 4: Yes, yes, same guy. Yes, Okay, in the middle of

968
00:47:47,480 --> 00:47:49,639
New Mexico, I'm in asleep and he whacked me in

969
00:47:49,639 --> 00:47:52,119
the forehead with the ACDC back in black tape. Yes,

970
00:47:52,239 --> 00:47:52,800
there you go.

971
00:47:53,679 --> 00:47:54,400
Speaker 2: Worth of pain.

972
00:47:54,800 --> 00:47:59,000
Speaker 4: Yeah, that's right, that's right. Well, here's what he had

973
00:47:59,039 --> 00:48:01,599
to say. He's weighing in on Young Guns, Young Guns

974
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two and Tombstone, the episode we did here in September October.

975
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Speaker 5: Hey guys, it's Chris Bauer, or as Jason refers to me,

976
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as Bomber. I'm here to give my final judgment on

977
00:48:12,159 --> 00:48:15,920
the Tombstone, Young Guns, Young Guns two podcasts. I'm judging

978
00:48:15,960 --> 00:48:21,800
these movies on three criteria or abilities, rewatchability, quotability, and

979
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overall entertainability, which includes two important subabilities, recommendability and pausibility.

980
00:48:29,159 --> 00:48:33,079
On rewatchability, this is a dead heat between Tombstone and

981
00:48:33,119 --> 00:48:36,199
Young Guns. Either of these comes on and I'm busy

982
00:48:36,239 --> 00:48:38,920
for the next hour forty seven minutes to two hours

983
00:48:38,960 --> 00:48:42,679
and ten minutes yep. For Young Guns two, I'm surfing

984
00:48:42,719 --> 00:48:44,800
my way through the channel guide and coming back to

985
00:48:44,840 --> 00:48:48,559
it if I don't find anything else. Next quotability. All

986
00:48:48,599 --> 00:48:51,760
three are filled with great one liners and phrases, but

987
00:48:51,840 --> 00:48:54,159
I had to narrow this down to those I regularly

988
00:48:54,280 --> 00:48:58,079
drop on my wife and kids. While Junior, you beck

989
00:48:58,159 --> 00:49:00,440
that queen again and I'll blow you straight up. That

990
00:49:00,519 --> 00:49:04,800
Wildcat's aresh is poetic. Hall of fame material. It doesn't

991
00:49:04,840 --> 00:49:08,159
mesh well in everyday scenarios like We've come to a

992
00:49:08,199 --> 00:49:11,119
place where an Indian is lost, and when an Indian

993
00:49:11,199 --> 00:49:14,920
is lost, he turns to the spirit world does which

994
00:49:14,960 --> 00:49:17,880
I have used on many occasions, such as walking into

995
00:49:17,920 --> 00:49:21,000
Costco or listening to my daughter tell me what happened

996
00:49:21,000 --> 00:49:24,800
at school that day. So for this ability, the Belted

997
00:49:24,880 --> 00:49:27,960
Earl has spoken, and I'm giving it to Young Guns,

998
00:49:27,960 --> 00:49:30,880
with Tombstone and Young Guns Too coming in a very

999
00:49:30,920 --> 00:49:36,079
close second. And third, finally, entertainability. Like I said earlier,

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this one includes two other very important abilities, recommendability and pausibility.

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All three on their own are what I consider entertaining,

1002
00:49:45,719 --> 00:49:49,840
and recommendability is high for all of them. As for pausibility,

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I could leave Young Guns Too at any point and

1004
00:49:52,320 --> 00:49:54,920
go do whatever errand or chores required of me at

1005
00:49:54,960 --> 00:49:58,599
that time and be okay. With Tombstone, I would probably

1006
00:49:58,639 --> 00:50:01,199
have to wait until the Wyatt and Josie horse chase

1007
00:50:01,280 --> 00:50:04,039
scene or any of the Wyatt and Mattie scenes to

1008
00:50:04,159 --> 00:50:08,239
pause and tend to my obligations. But Young Guns, it's

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00:50:08,280 --> 00:50:11,119
only one hundred and forty seven minutes, and when whatever

1010
00:50:11,280 --> 00:50:14,159
is required of me rears its ugly head. I'm probably

1011
00:50:14,199 --> 00:50:17,679
twenty to sixty minutes into the movie already anyway, so

1012
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he can wait until I watch Murphy reap the Whirlwind

1013
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and hear Doc say the epitaph read only one word, pals.

1014
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So with all that being said, my final judgment goes

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Young Guns number one, followed almost instantly by Tombstone in second,

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and Young Guns number two being the red ass Mexican

1017
00:50:39,079 --> 00:50:41,960
greaser who does it with his horse. Thanks guys for

1018
00:50:42,039 --> 00:50:44,639
putting on a great podcast which I look forward to

1019
00:50:44,800 --> 00:50:52,039
every week, and buenos tardes amigos.

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Speaker 2: All right, that was hilarious. That was awesome. I absolutely

1021
00:50:59,360 --> 00:51:03,000
love that tape. I obviously I disagree and I put

1022
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Tombstone one, but I cannot fault him for his logic.

1023
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Those love scenes are a big, ugly eyesore in the

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middle of an otherwise perfect movie.

1025
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Speaker 4: Yeah. I think he and I saw Young Uns two

1026
00:51:13,719 --> 00:51:16,880
in the theater together, and nice I think we were

1027
00:51:16,960 --> 00:51:20,280
actually kind of singing Blaze of Glory during the closing credits.

1028
00:51:20,360 --> 00:51:21,440
Speaker 2: So awesome.

1029
00:51:21,519 --> 00:51:24,440
Speaker 4: Chris, Thanks so much, man. Always good to hear from you, and.

1030
00:51:24,559 --> 00:51:26,239
Speaker 2: Stay out of trouble. Okay, thanks Chris.

1031
00:51:26,320 --> 00:51:28,679
Speaker 4: Okay, so that's gonna do it for part one of

1032
00:51:28,719 --> 00:51:31,239
our Home Alone versus a Christmas Story episode. And I

1033
00:51:31,280 --> 00:51:33,880
think we're actually going to drop our second or part

1034
00:51:33,920 --> 00:51:36,280
two of this not a full week away.

1035
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Speaker 2: No, we're gonna We're gonna try to get it up

1036
00:51:37,800 --> 00:51:39,199
here in a couple of days so that we get

1037
00:51:39,239 --> 00:51:41,360
it in before Christmas. You guys, be sure and hit

1038
00:51:41,400 --> 00:51:43,880
subscribe or follow if you haven't already, so that you

1039
00:51:43,960 --> 00:51:47,960
catch that second part of this episode and Merry Christmas,

1040
00:51:48,599 --> 00:51:49,360
very Christmas.