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Speaker 1: What is going on?

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Speaker 2: Clippers fans, Welcome to season sorry, episode fifty one. Starting

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this one off with the way different vibe, but the

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last time we saw all three of us together. I

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am Chuck Mockler, joined by Adam Oslin and William Updike.

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Speaker 3: Thank you for coming and hanging out with Clips and Dip.

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If you're listening, thank you if you want to watch

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Today we are going to be talking about whatever the

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hell happened last night against the Pistons. We're doing a

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little bit of a weekend preview and then maybe some

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just ethereal discussions about what might happen later in the

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NBA season. Adam will how the hell are you guys doing?

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After the first fifty point game into it? Courtesy of

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Jimothy Harton. Adam will start with you.

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Speaker 4: It was pretty cool. That was historic. That was a

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great crowd last night.

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Speaker 5: People in attendance or whatever.

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Speaker 4: It might have been. I don't know what the attendant said,

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but it felt full. I don't know if it was.

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Speaker 5: Because of this was just this was just the discourse online.

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I wasn't there, so I mean, I'm positive there were

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more than two hundred people.

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Speaker 4: Uh yeah, it was pretty full. It was as fool

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as I had seen it all season long, and it

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was and it was a good time.

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Speaker 3: The funny Yeah, Barack Obama was there, the funniest. After

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James Harden dunked and he did his nose bleed situation

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or his nose bleed celebration, you could see bomber.

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Speaker 1: He turned to Obama, he went, what is going on?

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And Obama went, I think like Obama didn't understand the celebration,

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which was very funny. It was like two of the.

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Speaker 3: Very powerful people not understanding the nuance of James Harden.

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Speaker 1: Wall.

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Speaker 3: How are you feeling after the game? What a turnaround

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from what the vibes were online minutes before that game started.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, I mean they really needed that one. It looked

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like they were in a skid that could that didn't

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have like a real clear end in sight, and they

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were able to turn around on the second nme of

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backback and James Harden just indispensable for this team. He

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continues to do it again and again. This is what

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is fourth game over forty points this season. Fifty is huge, man,

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I don't know when that's going to be topped and

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into it. That's like, it's you know, I'm glad people

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are appreciating because it is pretty historic, like it's you know,

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and I know it's just a Wednesday night game against

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the Pistons, but it is pretty crazy and it is

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wild to watch a player at this stage of his

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career continue to produce on it because consistent level like this,

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it's I just think a lot of people wouldn't have

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pegged this for Harden even a couple of years.

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Speaker 3: Ago, especially the second out of a backchback, Yeah, thirty

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eight minutes. I also, I was thinking about today, I

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was like, the next person who's probably going to score

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fifty at into it is James Harden, Like I can't

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think of another person on the team who could maybe

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do it.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, they don't play the Lakers again, so I don't

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have to worry about Luca. Luca's taking the record. What's

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interesting is so he made fourteen shots his three games

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leading up to that game, the two against the Lakers,

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the game against Phoenix. He makes fourteen shots in that

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one game against the Pistons, uh and he was fourteen

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four fifty the last three games headed against the that

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game and he gets fifty points.

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Speaker 1: Last night got the numerology flying to start this episode.

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Speaker 5: He's been laying up stinkers against the Lakers too, which

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we can't know later, but yeah.

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Speaker 1: Will you mentioned this?

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Speaker 3: Like so this was kind of the topic last night

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was insane. Harden went for fifty, Bogie and Zoo combined

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for forty five. Those three scored over seventy five percent

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of the Clippers point I I don't know about that.

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Speaker 4: I hope so hey, Bogie is shooting forty three his

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last five games.

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Speaker 1: What's the what's the per game split on those? The

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kind of peaks and like peaks and valleys would be

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Speaker 4: The same way it is for everybody else on average.

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Speaker 3: All Right, I don't know if I'm ready to say

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Bogie's back, but he looked great. Zoo shockingly twenty field

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goal attempts for the first time this season, Adam, I'm

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sure you knew this stat before even looking at the breakdown.

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The Clippers are nine and two. When he gets more

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than fifteen field goal attempts this year.

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Speaker 4: It should be ten to one because of the dam

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Phoenix game.

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Speaker 3: I mean, that's entirely fair. Well, you mentioned this is like,

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you know, the Clippers were in a skid. Does this

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game right the ship? No pun intended? What does this

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game mean for the rest of the Clippers season? Was

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it just a blitz? I'm trying to.

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Speaker 5: I don't think it's a blip. I don't think it's

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a blip. And like I got to contextualize here too,

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because I feel like us both covering the team. I

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feel like us as fans, we felt way different heading

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into the All Star Break. Like they they went in,

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it looked like they were gonna go out with a whimper.

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They went out on a three game win streak, three

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game or four bread at least three game win streak. Uh,

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you know, they came out of the break looking a

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little placid, like not looking uh not looking up. I

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don't know. I wasn't say something.

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Speaker 4: I don't know. They lived the All Star Break.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, it doesn't have to be And it's just a

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word in general, and then related, these are just words, yeah,

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go off.

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Speaker 5: So yeah, like it changed things dramatically, and I do think, yeah,

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maybe they had to knock off some rusts. You know,

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we have seen this team not look great after extended

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rests throughout the two one three tenure it. You know,

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it is a game of rhythm and runs, so I

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do think that there is something to be said to that.

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And yeah, it's not like they weren't in the last

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one either. That was a heartbreaker to to drop and

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we've seen them, you know, sort of just piss away

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leads time and time again. But but this was definitely

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a step in the right direction. And I'm hoping that

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this like gets them back into that sort of that

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mentality defensively and just that ability to sort of dig

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deep to pull out some of these games.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, Adam, how are you is this? We got a

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lot of questions last night, specifically, was something born on

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March fifth that into it?

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Speaker 4: Though, asked Nikob too Man he started, I hope. I

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think there's something meaningful to them being able to close

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out that game that was a tight contest late because

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five when they lost six of seven, five of those

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six losses, like we're within five points, like they were

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right there in all those games.

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Speaker 1: There were some games are so close, like it was

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what six points? We talked about it.

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Speaker 4: And they've blown so many leads. I think they've blown

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eleven games this season where they led by ten or more.

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Speaker 5: Ten isn't that much.

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Speaker 4: Ten isn't crazy. But I think three twenty point games

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that they have lost this season, yeah, two to Phoenix

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and one to Indiana. So to see them be in

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a real battle late, and by the way, that does

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speak to how good James Harden was. This wasn't some

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fifty ball in a game that they had secured where

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he's just pouring it on late. They needed all of

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those buckets, the fourteen he had in the fourth quarter,

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but hold on after what happened against Phoenix the night

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before and not break against a good Pistons team. I

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know it's hard to wrap our heads around it, but

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they are at one ten of eleven. I think I

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hope that is the big takeaway, that they can figure

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out how to close games again.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, the closing game. It's it's nice that will You

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kind of talked about how they've looked a little rough

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with more rest. I like that they have one day

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off and then they play tomorrow. I like that this

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is fresh in their minds. Their Harden's got to be

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feeling good. People didn't want him to play yesterday. I'm

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not going to pretend like I didn't think about maybe

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he should sit. But thankfully it went the good way.

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But I like that they have one day they can

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look at what they did right, Bogie can.

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Speaker 1: Still feel good head into the game. I think. I

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hope something does kind of shift out of this. Will

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you look like you wanted to interject.

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Speaker 4: The only problem I'd say is it's not a problem.

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I hope it's not a problem, but it is. It's

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a new configuration of guys that are going to be

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playing on Friday. You find a way to win that

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one game, and now you've got to figure out how

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to win with different guys out there and different dynamics.

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And look, the offensive rating on off splits with Kawhi

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have been good. They're better with him in every way possible.

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They just got to put it together and play with

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a little bit more chemistry out there in the biggest

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moments and just share the rock. Because they've had so

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many good quarters during this losing streak. You're like, damn,

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they look great and they can't hold it together. They

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can't consistently play like that. The second quarter against Phoenix

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I thought was really special with the ball movement, everything

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going on there with James. Without James, it worked, so

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could they do it for forty eight minutes? Can they

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be more consistent out there?

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Speaker 3: I like what you said about kind of like it's

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a new crew coming in on Friday against the next

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which we'll talk about the next segment. But the only

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people on the injury report are Ben Simmons and Norm Powell.

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So Kawhi is good to go, Derek Jones Junior is

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good to go. Done will be in the starting line

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up again. We can only assume he was great defensively

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against the Pistons.

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Speaker 1: Just another is.

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Speaker 5: There a timeline? Is there a timeline on Simmons yet?

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Speaker 1: Day to day? So it was weird.

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Speaker 3: Tyleru said yesterday that him and Derek Jones Junior were

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day to day and he didn't know when they'd be back.

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But Derek Jones Junior was doing an on court workout yesterday,

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so that makes.

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Speaker 1: Like, yeah, that does suck.

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Speaker 3: Shout out Dime who got to meet Derek Jones Junior

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with the bibblehead, which was cool.

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Speaker 4: Everyone who wore Jersey could do a meet agreed afterwards.

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That's a great idea.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, that's the kind of stuff the marketing team

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needs to keep doing. That's cool shit. But Ben Simmons, Like,

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I don't think there's any like he hasn't been doing

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on court stuff.

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Speaker 4: That I've heard that's a that's a loss too. Oh yeah, unfortunately.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, I mean, I like, you know, obviously there's a

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lot of factors going on here, but you know it

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is a downgrade from Simmons to U Banks there.

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Speaker 4: If you look at that leaf. I'm not putting it

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all on U Banks for what happened against Phoenix, but.

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Speaker 1: A couple of.

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Speaker 4: Times was a plus twenty two. He played thirty He

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played thirty seven minutes, so they lost by two. In

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the eleven minutes he's off the floor, they got outscored

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by twenty four points. That's wild.

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Speaker 1: I mean, you look at look at the game from

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last night. U Banks, Kobe Brown and Jordan Miller were

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the only minuses. They were double.

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Speaker 4: Jordans were that bad, Like they had a couple of

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putbacks each. They weren't that loud with their performances. But

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I didn't see a horrible play.

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Speaker 1: Jordan Miller fouls so much.

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Speaker 3: And I think, look, if you've been listening to this pod,

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you know you know that I set up shop on

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Kobe Brown Island real Estate's getting short.

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Speaker 1: Not for the good reasons. Yeah, I don't.

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Speaker 6: Know, additional property, so that way your per your per

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share loss is lower.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, oh yeah, I'm I own a lot on Kobe

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Brown Island. I'm sunk.

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Speaker 3: I'm in the sunk cause fallacy, and I'm just I'm

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sinking further. I'm trying to start a new fallacy, I guess.

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Speaker 1: Yeah.

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Speaker 3: So they're gonna have almost the full starting lineup back

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except for Norm. We gotta hope Kawhi is gonna gonna

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do his thing again. We'll talk about more in detail

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the next segment. This really helped the standings, though we

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needed to win for the Vibes. The Clippers are sitting

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in eighth. We're one game out of six. We have

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the tiebreaker over the Warriors, which is huge. We are, however,

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one and a half games out of tenth place.

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Speaker 1: So I think at this point, if nothing is you know,

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created out of this what what can be I think

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taken from this game in the grand scheme of things.

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Speaker 3: Hopefully Bogie stays hot or relatively hot, because I don't

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think he'll shoot what was it.

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Speaker 1: Fifty from three?

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Speaker 3: That would be great, but I don't think that will

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happen continuously. Maybe this gets them to give Zoo the

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ball more when there needs to be easier buckets. Like

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you look at the field goal attempts. No one had

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double digit field goal attempts except for Bogie, Zoo and Hard.

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Obviously that gets redistributed when Kawhi and Derek Jones Junior

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are there, But it was nice to see some more

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emphasis on Zoo getting the ball.

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Speaker 1: That's kind of all I'm hoping for from this, I

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guess is a lot. What Yeah, but he'll score eighteen.

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Speaker 5: I think they need to do to take care of

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business and like secure a playoff spot, Like is that

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thirteen and seven? Do you think that gets it done?

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Is that good enough.

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Speaker 4: Playoffs? Like a six point?

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Speaker 5: Yeah?

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Speaker 1: Yeah, like six pot if.

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Speaker 4: They beat Golden State, it might, but they go Warriors

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have been so damn hot and they have an easier schedule.

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Speaker 5: So thirteen and seven you don't think they'll run.

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Speaker 4: I don't think it's a darance.

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Speaker 1: I think it gives them a chance. I think it

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gives us a Really if you look at the schedule

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the same, what do you.

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Speaker 5: Project that they do better? That they can do better

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than thirteen and seven over the last over these last

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twenty games.

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Speaker 1: I can't in good faith project.

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Speaker 5: That thirteen and seven seems attainable to me.

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Speaker 4: I don't.

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Speaker 5: I don't even know that I could. I don't even

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know that I could get to fourteen and six. To

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be perfectly honest.

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Speaker 3: We've just we have consistent See stop me if you've

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heard this one before in the two and three era,

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Consistency is not this team's thing when it comes to

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who's available, when it comes to play level or whatever focus,

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whatever adjective you want to use for that.

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Speaker 1: So I can't.

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Speaker 3: It's doable, But it's not like I have a body

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of work this season to point back and say, remember

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when they were playing like this, that's what they need

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to do at thirteen and seven. If Harden scores fifty

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every other game, Hell yeah, thirteen and seven. But Kawhi

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is going to miss some games.

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Speaker 4: You got four more back to backs? Shit, yeah yeah, yeah, best.

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At best, Kawhi's playing sixteen games. The consistency thing, though,

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or the inconsistency.

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Speaker 3: And norm is out until at least the Hornets game

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on the sixteenth and ten days.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, and he's probably not coming back for that game

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since it's reevaluation.

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Speaker 3: It's like, right, they reevaluate and they go.

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Speaker 4: Like that is yeah, just real tough blow. For him

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to come back and play nine minutes after we've been

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waiting for him is insane. I will say the inconsistency

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issue kind of cuts both ways, yeah, because it can't

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be consistently bad for as long either, right, Okay, it

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could snap out of it.

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Speaker 3: I think one of the ways that can help him

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stap out of it, kind of to your point, will

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if they do want to get to thirteen and seven,

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is feeding off the defense that Chris Dunn has continued

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to play even when things are bad, even when the

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Clippers have been bad. The defense and the effort that

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Chris Dunne has showed, I think permians the locker room.

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We've talked about how he's kind of one of those

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guys who's maybe a leader by example, just specifically on

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the defensive end for this team. So like if they

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can buy into that once Kawhi starts stepping it up

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more with defensive responsibilities, which happens on Friday, I think

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that like there's a couple of things that have to coalesce,

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but they're not too far fetched, right, Like this team

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is built on defense, so if that gets back to

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where it was.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, it feels like a little bit of shaky GROWNDI

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right now, just because of how we've seen them and

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how hot and cold spin and obviously injuries piling up.

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But there are some some things that suggest they are

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trending in the right direction. Obviously Harden, you know, so

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like snapping back into it being able to do this.

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I mean, the last time we saw Kawhi looked really

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really good. Didn't ultimately result in a win, but you know,

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there's some things trending in the right direction.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, definitely.

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Speaker 4: Do you guys believe they are eighteenth defensively their last

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fifteen games? This is all stretch. This goes further back

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than just post All Star Break. I think some of it.

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I think a lot of it is remedied by just

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can you all cool off from three against us for

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a little bit. Yeah, I think that's a huge slice

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of the pie. What's going on? And last night it

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did happen in their favor. The Detroit Pistons shot thirty

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one percent three.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, what is the opponent three point percentage in those

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fifteen games?

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Speaker 4: Let me check here?

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Speaker 5: Use if you filter out if you were to filter

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out some of those, it.

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Speaker 1: Was if you if you readjust them to the meme,

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you know it's.

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Speaker 4: Oh yeah, it's been like thirty nine percent for a while.

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So yeah, it's thirty nine point two percent. That's insane. Yeah,

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that is unsustainable. I don't care if you're leading and

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they're not.

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Speaker 5: Is that is that the worst in the league.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, it's thirtieth.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I've checked.

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Speaker 4: It's not like they're advanced. Uh the analytics say that

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they're leaving guys open more or that they're way more

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open shots being taken from three, that's not it.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, I wouldn't imagine that because like when you're watching

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the game, it's not like all like these shots are

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wide open. I mean, of course they've let a few

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slow whatever. They sometimes you know, will concede a shot

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to a you know, the the weakest player on the floor.

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But it to the eye test, it's not like they're

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just letting them honk, like letting teams chuck them up.

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Speaker 1: Well, and look at last night Dennis Shooter five of nine,

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Dalton connect had that crazy game against us, Like you're

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getting I think it's.

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Speaker 3: Two and three hoops. Has I can't remember what it's called,

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but I think it's like shitty three point shooter versus

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the Clippers club. And they have such a long thread

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of guys who were just like, oh, he's seventy five

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percent tonight from three, suret why not like it's happened

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a lot. Not a total excuse, But you're right, well,

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the defense doesn't if you're an eye test person, the

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defense does not look broken in any way.

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Speaker 4: Even look at a lot of the points per game

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against the Clippers as of late, the Lakers didn't put

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up much against them. Their defense was good enough. It's

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like one and eight it we're talking about up one

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hundred and eight points, one hundred and six points. They

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lost to the Detroit in Detroit one hundred and six points.

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Speaker 7: I don't know, it's clear what the problem does point

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to the problem the other side of the ball, to

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the other side of the ball being the issue. But again,

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if Bogie cannot be statistically one of the worst catching

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shoot three point shooters, things are a lot easier.

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Speaker 4: He's at Chris, that's all. It takes a few games

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nearly nearly average.

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Speaker 1: Nearly.

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Speaker 4: In back to back possessions in the fourth quarter and

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he had a turnaround fade away, like his big game

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was awesome. Historday he did a lot.

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Speaker 3: Yesterday he had a block, he clocked a steel boards,

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a sitting like he can do a little bit.

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Speaker 4: We like, is it?

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Speaker 5: Do you think this had to do with some of

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his playing time in Atlanta? And like he you know,

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he is a much more consistent part of the rotation

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now than he was in Atlanta, So like maybe maybe

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I wasn't giving him enough credit for for that, like

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needing the time to readjust and come back into it.

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Speaker 3: You're also very ill, right, No, I think the consistent

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the playing time is a real thing.

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Speaker 1: Like I think this is maybe a bigger conversation.

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Speaker 3: I think a lot of the times people look at

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stats and they say, well, why isn't that just one

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for one at the new place or what you know,

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Why why.

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Speaker 1: There's a rhythm, there's getting used to a thing. I

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think that. I think you're right. I think that plays

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in part.

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Speaker 4: I think part of it is just it's a low

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volume thing too. He hasn't been many games this season.

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Like last year he got up about six hundred and

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fifty threes this year. I think he's right at about

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two hundred.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, he's huge difference, and.

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Speaker 4: He's playing as his head postgame and said it's a

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mental like there's nothing physically going on there. He's not washed.

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He looks fine. He just needs I think those two

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in the fourth quarter. Hopefully there's a carryover effect then

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because those were really clutch shots, maybe that gets them

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out of this.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, not washed, looks fine. I hope is what because

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that's a pretty smolid Yeah.

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Speaker 4: I like what.

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Speaker 1: I like what you said. Like not the whole game,

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obviously the whole game was successful, but having that confidence

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from the two meaningful shots in the fourth it's like, yes,

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like you can do this in moments that matter to

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you know, not not that it doesn't matter earlier, but

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you guys know what bigot when it really.

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Speaker 4: Is kind he's been a clutch player in the league.

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Like that's like part of his rep. So yeah, get

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through it, mental block.

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Speaker 1: Get through it, mental block. Anything else to say about this?

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Speaker 3: Uh, the new baby in the Clippers locker room after

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something was born from this this gamest.

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Speaker 1: The Pistons. They were upset about the referee. But I

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don't know what to tell you.

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Speaker 4: I do think that the Clippers got a good whistle

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last night and that was rare.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, and we I was like, we'll take it.

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Speaker 4: Oh yeah like that.

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Speaker 5: I thought that that was a little excessive post game

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from the Pistons being like, well they got handed, they

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got handed. James got handed twenty points and then we

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had seven. No, like the disparity wasn't even that insane?

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Speaker 4: I don't know.

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Speaker 5: And yeah, anytime a guy get is getting to fifty

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in this league the way to get yeah, he's getting

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He's getting to the line twenty times.

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Speaker 1: Zoo had no free throws. So how about that. I'm

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sure there was a couple of possessions of Isaiah Stewart

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was follow him.

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Speaker 5: It was just wild that it came from multiple members.

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I thought in the in the postgame interviews from the.

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Speaker 1: Pistons, yeah, I mean it would be frustrating to see

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the same guy, but like it was, it's only seven more.

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Speaker 3: They must not watched the recent Clippers games. Did they

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not watch Clippers games to see how they just.

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Speaker 4: You know, everybody's had their turn in a game where

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Harden has fifteen plus free throws against you, and it's

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the Clippers have Yeah, they face this too. When he

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was with Houston, plenty, so it can't be frustrating. But

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you know, watch the tape, guys. It wasn't that bad.

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But you know, I feel for him because we're gonna

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be doing this soon. Imagine if we have the Lakers

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in seven game series two thousand and two again, for me,

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it's gonna be hell.

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Speaker 1: Oh no, you're gonna be breaking out the jersey. Oh man,

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I hope you. I don't hope you have to.

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Speaker 3: But if it does come to that, I'm very excited

476
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for the listeners who don't know you are infra surprise

477
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if that happens. All right, coming up, we're gonna be

478
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talking the Clippers weekend previous they got a game versus

479
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the next tomorrow night, and then they have a massive

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game standings wise against the Kings on Sunday. If you're

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Speaker 5: All right, welcome back into cliffs and Dip. We just

490
00:25:22,839 --> 00:25:25,960
finished up talking a big win. But the Clippers aren't

491
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done yet. They've got two games coming up this weekend,

492
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starting with one against the Knicks followed by little pactive

493
00:25:35,240 --> 00:25:36,519
rival in the Kings.

494
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Speaker 3: Hell yeah, the pactive rivalry is real. This next game,

495
00:25:44,480 --> 00:25:46,440
like we said, Clippers are going to be without Norman,

496
00:25:46,519 --> 00:25:49,720
Ben Simmons, Derek Jones Junior's back, second night of a

497
00:25:49,720 --> 00:25:55,720
back to back for the Knicks, who are going tonight unclear.

498
00:25:55,839 --> 00:25:59,799
He was out for personal reasons, which Chris Bussard was

499
00:25:59,799 --> 00:26:03,119
to fucking so much crazy shit. Cat missed that game

500
00:26:03,279 --> 00:26:07,400
for very real personal reasons, And there's this weird narrative

501
00:26:07,440 --> 00:26:11,519
that he like was ducking like Jimmy Butler or something

502
00:26:11,559 --> 00:26:11,799
like that.

503
00:26:11,839 --> 00:26:14,440
Speaker 5: The only time that comes in is I feel like

504
00:26:14,519 --> 00:26:17,920
BMB verse Jokic thing, Like there are ones where it's

505
00:26:17,920 --> 00:26:22,519
happening so frequently that it's like okay, but I feel like, yeah,

506
00:26:22,599 --> 00:26:25,240
in a single game scenario, like what are we doing here?

507
00:26:25,279 --> 00:26:28,039
Like with this, I get that the everyone loves the drama.

508
00:26:28,079 --> 00:26:30,519
This doesn't need to be the most dramatic league fucking

509
00:26:30,599 --> 00:26:31,160
every day.

510
00:26:33,480 --> 00:26:36,319
Speaker 1: Oh it should not, but it is. Chris.

511
00:26:36,599 --> 00:26:40,640
Speaker 3: Chris Bussard referenced Draymond Green's podcast to disparage why Karl

512
00:26:40,680 --> 00:26:45,480
Anthony Towns missed this game. Fantastic journalism, Chris Bussard. Anyway,

513
00:26:45,519 --> 00:26:49,119
this isn't the NIXT podcast, but Cat I believe should.

514
00:26:48,880 --> 00:26:49,640
Speaker 1: Be playing in this one.

515
00:26:50,680 --> 00:26:54,640
Speaker 4: I think he plays tonight, is what they're saying. Now.

516
00:26:54,680 --> 00:26:58,720
He did just come back from a knee issue, and

517
00:26:58,759 --> 00:27:01,079
I'll try to see if he's laid back to backs yet,

518
00:27:01,079 --> 00:27:04,240
and it looks like he has, so I would expect

519
00:27:04,319 --> 00:27:06,839
him to play against the Clippers tomorrow.

520
00:27:07,839 --> 00:27:09,960
Speaker 3: Okay, do we think Derek Jones Junior is going to

521
00:27:10,000 --> 00:27:14,200
be on any kind of minutes watch just from what

522
00:27:14,319 --> 00:27:16,640
Ty said yesterday of him still being day to day.

523
00:27:16,720 --> 00:27:19,279
Obviously he's not on the injury report, but is he

524
00:27:19,400 --> 00:27:20,640
just full board going?

525
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Speaker 5: Like I mean, looking at his rotation minutes going into

526
00:27:24,079 --> 00:27:27,960
the injury what do you even minutes a restriction to

527
00:27:28,000 --> 00:27:29,480
even be a factor.

528
00:27:29,480 --> 00:27:33,160
Speaker 4: Right, Yeah, it's he's been on man's restriction. It looks

529
00:27:33,200 --> 00:27:36,880
like if you able to go up getting five or more.

530
00:27:37,039 --> 00:27:40,920
Speaker 3: Yeah, that's a good call. Happy to have Derek Jones

531
00:27:40,960 --> 00:27:44,839
Junior back the Knicks. Here's what they're not good at.

532
00:27:45,599 --> 00:27:48,440
They're not good at rebounding. They're bottom ten and offensive,

533
00:27:48,480 --> 00:27:52,519
defensive and total rebounds per game. They're okay rebounding percentage

534
00:27:52,519 --> 00:27:57,920
wise eleventh and offensive rebound percentage seventeenth. In defensive rebound percentage,

535
00:27:58,079 --> 00:28:03,000
they're nineteenth in defensive rating. So the Clippers do kind

536
00:28:03,000 --> 00:28:05,880
of have a shot to carry some of this offensive

537
00:28:05,880 --> 00:28:07,960
momentum against the Knicks.

538
00:28:08,920 --> 00:28:12,279
Speaker 4: It's strange a TIBs team that is top five on

539
00:28:12,480 --> 00:28:17,680
offense in near bottom ten defensively. They've had a big makeover.

540
00:28:18,119 --> 00:28:22,640
I still think the defense is there somewhere, like, yeah,

541
00:28:22,720 --> 00:28:26,119
they're better than this personnel wise, but yeah, the Clippers

542
00:28:27,160 --> 00:28:29,240
they should be, especially with the second half of back

543
00:28:29,279 --> 00:28:31,759
to back and then playing the Lakers tonight. Nicks Lakers

544
00:28:31,880 --> 00:28:34,319
is always a big game. Maybe they haven't let down.

545
00:28:34,759 --> 00:28:37,880
Hopefully they beat the Lakers and then don't see a

546
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priority of going full board against the Clippers the next night.

547
00:28:42,160 --> 00:28:42,839
That'd be cool.

548
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Speaker 1: Yeah, I wouldn't be mad at that.

549
00:28:45,359 --> 00:28:45,960
Speaker 5: Pretty cool.

550
00:28:46,119 --> 00:28:49,200
Speaker 3: That would be great for everybody involved except the Lakers,

551
00:28:49,200 --> 00:28:54,200
but who cares about them? I'm looking forward to Chris

552
00:28:54,279 --> 00:28:58,160
Dunn in this one. The Knicks don't take a lot

553
00:28:58,200 --> 00:29:01,279
of threes, but they're top ten in three point percentage,

554
00:29:01,319 --> 00:29:04,799
So his perimeter defense with Derk Jones Junior like Adam

555
00:29:04,799 --> 00:29:06,960
To your point, I know it's kind of the ragtag

556
00:29:07,000 --> 00:29:11,960
group because Norm's not there, but like defensively, Derrek Jones

557
00:29:12,000 --> 00:29:14,000
Junior and Don should kind of be able to make

558
00:29:14,039 --> 00:29:15,000
things happen in this one.

559
00:29:16,359 --> 00:29:20,079
Speaker 4: Done also two big threes that were wide open last

560
00:29:20,119 --> 00:29:24,240
game knocked them down. Those were big shots. Uh yeah,

561
00:29:24,640 --> 00:29:27,440
I look forward to that that he's.

562
00:29:27,400 --> 00:29:32,200
Speaker 5: Not shooting over the last fifteen games too much.

563
00:29:35,599 --> 00:29:41,799
Speaker 4: If DJ is back, I wouldn't mind seeing more of

564
00:29:41,839 --> 00:29:46,319
his minutes during crunch time when they are leaving Done

565
00:29:46,319 --> 00:29:50,960
wide open and electing to let him shoot those those threes.

566
00:29:51,160 --> 00:29:52,680
I would rap because of.

567
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Speaker 5: The versatility, just because of the versatility of DJJ Or

568
00:29:59,160 --> 00:30:01,359
you think he's a sign better at three point.

569
00:30:01,200 --> 00:30:04,519
Speaker 4: Shooter, It ain't. It ain't significant, but I think he's

570
00:30:05,960 --> 00:30:09,759
he's better. I think he's better, and Done is I

571
00:30:09,759 --> 00:30:13,359
don't know, it hasn't. Maybe I'm wrong, and last night's

572
00:30:13,400 --> 00:30:17,079
game is the turning point. But the narrative surrounding him

573
00:30:17,119 --> 00:30:20,200
being left open late in games and how many opportunities

574
00:30:20,240 --> 00:30:22,720
he has had as of late against the Lakers to

575
00:30:22,799 --> 00:30:24,920
hit him, against Phoenix, to hit him, and they're just

576
00:30:24,920 --> 00:30:25,799
not falling.

577
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Speaker 1: Over the last fifteen games. Chris Dunn is shooting from.

578
00:30:32,279 --> 00:30:36,440
Speaker 5: Three hardy, so he's like at his average, he's higher

579
00:30:36,519 --> 00:30:37,200
than both over the.

580
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Speaker 4: Last That's that's a little shocking to me. What is

581
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he at fourth quarters?

582
00:30:43,440 --> 00:30:45,079
Speaker 1: Okay, hold on, let me see if I can parcel

583
00:30:45,160 --> 00:30:45,480
it out.

584
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Speaker 4: Give me those parameters.

585
00:30:47,599 --> 00:30:56,599
Speaker 1: Okay, hold on, fourth quarter? Get stats he is suh.

586
00:30:57,119 --> 00:31:01,279
Hold on, I gotta scroll a little bit. Get somebody

587
00:31:01,359 --> 00:31:08,599
shooting from three and fourth quarters over the last fifteen games. Adam,

588
00:31:08,680 --> 00:31:12,599
your guests eighteen it's a round number. If that helps.

589
00:31:14,400 --> 00:31:14,960
Speaker 4: Ten percent?

590
00:31:15,319 --> 00:31:17,440
Speaker 1: Yes, Holy.

591
00:31:19,000 --> 00:31:20,240
Speaker 5: How many attempts though.

592
00:31:20,680 --> 00:31:23,559
Speaker 3: It's not a lot of attempts. It is point eight attempts.

593
00:31:23,759 --> 00:31:28,319
Speaker 4: Yeah, but we know what type they are. You're wide open.

594
00:31:31,400 --> 00:31:33,839
Speaker 5: Yeah, I think that's an easy swing. Though you make

595
00:31:33,920 --> 00:31:35,680
two of those. I mean, you're turning that whole damn

596
00:31:35,680 --> 00:31:36,240
thing around.

597
00:31:36,880 --> 00:31:42,119
Speaker 3: Will is like just this next one, baby, Yeah, I

598
00:31:42,160 --> 00:31:44,359
hope Derek joege Well, we're gonna see both, right, Like

599
00:31:44,519 --> 00:31:46,759
in this scenario with Norm out in the fourth quarter,

600
00:31:46,960 --> 00:31:48,559
it's probably gonna be both.

601
00:31:49,319 --> 00:31:50,599
Speaker 4: I think we'll probably have Bogie in.

602
00:31:52,359 --> 00:31:56,839
Speaker 3: Yeah, do we Kawhi's fourth quarter minutes? How we didn't

603
00:31:56,839 --> 00:31:59,240
really talk about this against the Phoenix game. There was

604
00:31:59,319 --> 00:32:02,279
some discord about people wondering why he sat out a

605
00:32:02,319 --> 00:32:04,359
certain amount of minutes he did in the fourth and

606
00:32:04,400 --> 00:32:08,200
then came back in comparison to when his minisula versus

607
00:32:08,240 --> 00:32:11,480
the Lakers. Are they just going by feel per game

608
00:32:11,519 --> 00:32:12,759
basis with the minute.

609
00:32:12,759 --> 00:32:13,799
Speaker 1: I was a little confused by it.

610
00:32:13,839 --> 00:32:18,359
Speaker 4: I'm not gonna yeah, I asked law about it. Didn't

611
00:32:18,359 --> 00:32:21,400
seem like there was any clear understanding of why he

612
00:32:21,480 --> 00:32:23,119
came out for a minute and a half. Was it

613
00:32:23,200 --> 00:32:27,039
just I'm trying to think he had played the entire

614
00:32:27,160 --> 00:32:30,960
fourth quarter of the Lakers game, right, and if he had,

615
00:32:31,160 --> 00:32:33,759
if he had stayed in in the game against Phoenix

616
00:32:34,079 --> 00:32:35,759
and didn't come out for that minute and a half,

617
00:32:35,759 --> 00:32:39,079
he would have played the entire fourth quarter. So maybe

618
00:32:39,240 --> 00:32:44,400
we're not doing entire quarters with Kawhi. That's the deduction here.

619
00:32:44,400 --> 00:32:47,200
Speaker 1: I don't know, let me check it because we played

620
00:32:47,240 --> 00:32:52,279
him on the second Yeah, I don't know.

621
00:32:52,359 --> 00:32:55,200
Speaker 3: And again Tylu has alluded to kind of you know,

622
00:32:55,200 --> 00:32:56,799
there was the game where Harden was out there for

623
00:32:56,799 --> 00:32:57,480
forty minutes.

624
00:32:57,920 --> 00:32:59,720
Speaker 1: He was like, oh, that was my fault. Kawi played

625
00:32:59,720 --> 00:33:01,880
the full fourth versus the Lakers.

626
00:33:01,759 --> 00:33:06,559
Speaker 4: On the second game, then maybe it's just well, he

627
00:33:06,720 --> 00:33:09,359
just played forty minutes, so we can't do another forty

628
00:33:09,400 --> 00:33:11,799
point game forty eight hours later.

629
00:33:12,279 --> 00:33:16,359
Speaker 3: Yeah, the minutes roach the minutes management's been a little

630
00:33:16,400 --> 00:33:19,599
wonky recently because TYLERU talked about it.

631
00:33:19,640 --> 00:33:20,440
Speaker 1: You know, it was his fault.

632
00:33:20,920 --> 00:33:23,000
Speaker 3: Harden was out there for forty minutes in that one game,

633
00:33:23,039 --> 00:33:25,519
and then I don't know, I guess it'll be interesting

634
00:33:25,559 --> 00:33:27,200
to see tomorrow, like if it's a close game down

635
00:33:27,240 --> 00:33:29,960
the stretch, like we need these wins, and if he's

636
00:33:30,000 --> 00:33:32,519
able to play the full fourth against the Lakers, like,

637
00:33:32,680 --> 00:33:34,359
let's do it.

638
00:33:35,720 --> 00:33:36,720
Speaker 1: Depending on the other.

639
00:33:36,599 --> 00:33:41,319
Speaker 5: Three full quarters isn't like new for Kawhi, right seeing

640
00:33:41,319 --> 00:33:43,920
it shifted consistently to the fourth, that would probably be

641
00:33:45,200 --> 00:33:48,480
advantageous for this team versus his like normal first full

642
00:33:48,559 --> 00:33:53,000
quarter stints in previous seasons. But yeah, I don't know.

643
00:33:54,000 --> 00:33:57,759
It's so hard because I just feel like there's no

644
00:33:57,920 --> 00:34:01,039
clear cut answer as to what is going to aggravate

645
00:34:01,359 --> 00:34:04,359
the me you know's there's nothing like which is I

646
00:34:04,640 --> 00:34:07,480
feel like, I feel like We've just gone through so

647
00:34:07,559 --> 00:34:10,920
many different things, and it's like not playing and you know,

648
00:34:10,960 --> 00:34:13,679
a whole lot of rest doesn't seem to be that beneficial.

649
00:34:13,719 --> 00:34:16,079
I mean, you could definitely make a strong argument for

650
00:34:16,119 --> 00:34:21,519
an overuse issue last season, but you know, it wasn't

651
00:34:21,519 --> 00:34:24,639
a problem at least my understanding, until all of a

652
00:34:24,679 --> 00:34:30,280
sudden it was. So I think I understand the concern

653
00:34:30,400 --> 00:34:32,400
in terms of managing minutes, but I just feel like

654
00:34:32,440 --> 00:34:35,280
there's no way for you to game it. Like there,

655
00:34:35,559 --> 00:34:37,800
you know, there's truly no way for you to game it.

656
00:34:37,960 --> 00:34:40,320
So if you could keep him h if you were

657
00:34:40,320 --> 00:34:42,159
going to have him play full quarters, I would I

658
00:34:42,159 --> 00:34:46,119
would rather come at the end of the game then earlier.

659
00:34:47,440 --> 00:34:49,880
Speaker 4: Maybe just thought he'd looked gast, because I think he was.

660
00:34:51,119 --> 00:34:55,400
He started the quarter oh four, Only that's very real too.

661
00:34:56,239 --> 00:34:58,440
He got to tip in off a zoo miss. I

662
00:34:58,480 --> 00:35:02,159
think at the him that was the only shot he made.

663
00:35:03,239 --> 00:35:04,960
He just thought, I'll give him a minute and a

664
00:35:05,000 --> 00:35:08,679
half breather here and hopefully he's reached charged and could

665
00:35:08,760 --> 00:35:12,639
knock down and jumper. I don't know. Yeah, one asked.

666
00:35:13,599 --> 00:35:16,239
Speaker 1: That's all well. Time for some of the media at

667
00:35:16,280 --> 00:35:21,440
all of accountable, please don't do that, Please don't.

668
00:35:22,599 --> 00:35:24,679
Speaker 4: If there was a statement out there, I didn't hear it.

669
00:35:27,039 --> 00:35:30,480
Speaker 3: One thing I'm kind of looking for. As we know,

670
00:35:31,320 --> 00:35:34,360
Brunson one of the most efficient scorers in isolation in

671
00:35:34,400 --> 00:35:37,360
the league. There was some discourse over who was guarding

672
00:35:37,400 --> 00:35:40,159
who and that Son's game would be pretty cool to

673
00:35:40,159 --> 00:35:44,920
see Kawhi step up the defensive responsibility stuff. Not saying

674
00:35:44,920 --> 00:35:47,599
he's chosen not to, but this next game offers an

675
00:35:47,599 --> 00:35:50,119
opportunity for him to guard a couple of different positions

676
00:35:50,119 --> 00:35:51,880
of guys who can score pretty well.

677
00:35:54,039 --> 00:35:55,079
Speaker 5: Yeah, I should give that.

678
00:35:56,280 --> 00:35:58,400
Speaker 4: The Phoenix game, there were a few possessions down the

679
00:35:58,400 --> 00:36:00,960
stretch he was guarding KD a few possessions. He was

680
00:36:01,000 --> 00:36:06,320
on Booker. That was good to see. I should have

681
00:36:06,320 --> 00:36:10,039
put him on Cailespie apparently. Yeah.

682
00:36:10,119 --> 00:36:12,480
Speaker 3: Robert Flaub had a good tweet where he was like

683
00:36:12,519 --> 00:36:15,280
the Clippers coaching stash should lose sleep over this. I'm

684
00:36:15,360 --> 00:36:18,239
kind of on his side on that, Like the man,

685
00:36:19,920 --> 00:36:21,239
that was crazy.

686
00:36:23,320 --> 00:36:26,239
Speaker 4: Hard. You got pretty cooked the end of that game,

687
00:36:28,880 --> 00:36:31,880
Bogie got worn out by Gillaspie at least.

688
00:36:33,119 --> 00:36:35,880
Speaker 3: Yeah, Bogey's Bogey's defense is not what he's on the

689
00:36:35,920 --> 00:36:36,400
team for.

690
00:36:37,519 --> 00:36:47,760
Speaker 4: Thankfully it was rough. Yeah, oh man Gillespie game.

691
00:36:48,360 --> 00:36:52,400
Speaker 1: Yeah, will do you have any other thoughts about this

692
00:36:52,519 --> 00:36:55,599
next team. It's kind of an up and down next team.

693
00:36:55,920 --> 00:36:58,039
Speaker 5: Yeah, definitely. I don't know. There's there's a lot of

694
00:36:58,079 --> 00:37:02,159
question marks and we'll see. I wish I felt better

695
00:37:02,199 --> 00:37:05,239
about this team being able to pounce on on an

696
00:37:05,239 --> 00:37:07,079
opponent on the second night of a back to that act.

697
00:37:07,119 --> 00:37:12,360
I just haven't yet seen it once this season. So yeah,

698
00:37:13,400 --> 00:37:16,840
rest advantage kind of means nothing to the Clippers, which

699
00:37:16,880 --> 00:37:19,719
is great, just good stuff.

700
00:37:20,760 --> 00:37:24,440
Speaker 4: Yeah, that Friday night Lakers game, that was a great opportunity.

701
00:37:24,679 --> 00:37:27,719
They couldn't get that one. They were on the second

702
00:37:27,800 --> 00:37:32,960
night back to back. It's frustrating the Knicks, Like you know,

703
00:37:32,960 --> 00:37:35,159
I'm going to watch the game obviously later tonight, but

704
00:37:37,400 --> 00:37:41,440
I'm a little bit surprised that they are fourth in offense. Yeah,

705
00:37:41,719 --> 00:37:45,320
they're shooting thirty from three on the season. They're upper

706
00:37:45,320 --> 00:37:51,239
ash low attempts though little attempts. Yeah, but against the Clippers,

707
00:37:51,239 --> 00:37:52,280
you know they could go up.

708
00:37:55,199 --> 00:37:56,920
Speaker 3: Yeah, this is this will be the first game where

709
00:37:56,960 --> 00:38:01,280
a team makes thirty threes. That's what will probably happen.

710
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Then the Clippers get the Kings on Sunday, which is

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a monumental game for the standings. The Kings are a

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half game behind the Clippers. The Clippers are two and

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overs the Kings this season, but.

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Speaker 1: They have one more game after this one, which is

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the second to last game of the season, which could

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be one of the more stressful games of the year

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depending how things are going.

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Speaker 3: How are we feeling about this King's team? It's kind

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of new look after their pretty lateral move that they made, Like,

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I don't know, Will, How are you feeling about the

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team from the big Tomato?

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Speaker 5: Yeah, I mean it is a different look, which I

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00:38:48,679 --> 00:38:52,119
guess is a little bit more concerning. I'm always like

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on notice about the Kings, regardless of our head to

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head record against them, But I feel good about this one,

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and I would love to see a Western conference win.

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Speaker 1: Well not just a Western Conference.

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Speaker 5: It feels like it's been weeks. A division win, I

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mean a division win that's worth five Yeah.

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Speaker 1: Where's the points system?

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Speaker 5: We win against the Kings. That's by thirteen and seven.

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Speaker 3: Adam, How you feel about this game? The Kings are

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eleventh and net ratings. Since the Lavine trade, they're eighth

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00:39:26,079 --> 00:39:28,239
and three point percentage. They turn the ball over a lot,

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Like it's kind of you never know what you're gonna

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get because they're kind of an average team, so like

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maybe they'll be above average, maybe we'll be blow average, don't.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, they have enough talent where they're capable to put

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00:39:41,639 --> 00:39:43,960
them up with Zach Levine. Now he had a forty

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00:39:44,000 --> 00:39:48,360
point game I think already for them. He always scares me.

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He's had some big games against the Clippers specifically. This

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00:39:53,599 --> 00:39:56,159
is a team that is fighting for something now. It

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00:39:56,199 --> 00:39:58,559
looked like at first they might fall apart after the

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trade deadline. I was looking really bleak, and Doug Christie,

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00:40:03,280 --> 00:40:06,679
interim coach, rallied the troops a little bit. And they've

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been playing better defensively, which is typically their issue out there.

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So they're talented enough Sabonis, Zach Lavine, Demarto Rosen Tigan

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Murray that they can It's not shocking to me that

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they've been able to stay afloat even with doubt deer

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at Fox. I felt like they're not going to be

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that much worse after this trade. Honestly, Yeah, you don't

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have to.

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Speaker 5: Worry about having a crazy outlier of three point shooting, right,

754
00:40:33,159 --> 00:40:35,519
very true. They just don't take enough attempts. I feel

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like you're good.

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Speaker 3: They're a wild card. I don't know what's gonna happen

757
00:40:39,760 --> 00:40:41,280
in this game. The Clippers are kind of a wild

758
00:40:41,320 --> 00:40:43,639
card too, right now, right we there's gonna be no

759
00:40:43,639 --> 00:40:49,480
Norm probably know Ben Simmons is my guess, like it could.

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This is gonna be a weird one.

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Speaker 5: It's either gonna be get in timeline on this tired

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this brother?

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Speaker 1: When do we get in the timeline? Come on? We

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just golling for Norm?

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Speaker 5: Well, like we can only assignments are due.

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Speaker 3: I am the crap pulling you down from the from

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getting to the top of the bucket.

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Speaker 1: Right now, all right, anything else on this Kings game

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before we pick our player of the weekend picks, which

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again has to be someone who plays well over both games.

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Speaker 4: They should win it after beating the Knicks on Friday

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and make this three game homestands special because you win it,

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you have the tiebreaker against them, had to head. You're

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feeling a little bit about your place in the West

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and just to keep some momentum going. And yeah, they

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need a victory against uh not just a pac divity

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anybody in the West. Right now?

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Speaker 1: Are we still below five hundred conference play. Probably we

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might be at five hundred one.

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Speaker 3: I was wrong, damn it. Yes, hey, let's get to

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five hundred offerings play. That would feel great. I like

782
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what you said. This game is huge for the tiebreaker.

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Let's just get this. Make that second to last game

784
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not as big a deal for them. Will your pick

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for the Kawhi Leonard can't pick Norm Powell because he's

786
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not playing James harden avitza Zubats player of the weekend

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who has.

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Speaker 4: To before when playing he just didn't know yet.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, that's true. They have to play good over both

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of these games. Who are you picking?

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Speaker 5: I'm gonna go Djjay. I hope that he is a

792
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I hope he has a nice return. It'd be good

793
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to see him knock down some of those threes that

794
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has Adam put you feel slightly less worried. Then then

795
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when Chris downs taking him wide open, especially in that

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fourth quarter. Apparently, and I just we said this in

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00:42:53,360 --> 00:42:55,800
numerous times, but I like the athleticism. I like the

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look of this starting unit with DJJ in there. I

799
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doubt that he'll be back and starting line up maybe

800
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for the Knicks, depending on what they want.

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Speaker 4: To do there.

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00:43:06,360 --> 00:43:12,880
Speaker 5: No, no, no, yeah, yeah, Bogie, No, they'll they'll go DJJ.

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00:43:13,000 --> 00:43:16,280
I don't imagine. So, you know, the guy just had

804
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a bibblehead. Let's have a let's have a couple of nights,

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00:43:18,480 --> 00:43:20,480
string together a couple of nights.

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Speaker 1: Adam, your pick for player of the weekend.

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Speaker 4: I'm going with the fourth quarter three point marksman that

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00:43:30,039 --> 00:43:34,039
I too believe in. And Chris Dunn. I'm going with him, damn.

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Speaker 1: Okay, I mean the defense will be needed.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, hey, it just went to for two against the

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Pistons late in the game, at least in the second half.

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Build off that we're gonna be all right. And I

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00:43:47,880 --> 00:43:51,519
love Chris Dunn regardless. You never feel that bad. It's

814
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not Russell Westbrook. It's not the same thing, just because

815
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they can play off of him, because his defense is

816
00:43:57,519 --> 00:44:00,760
so insane on the other end that I still feel

817
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like he's a net positive out there even when they're

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00:44:04,039 --> 00:44:04,840
leaving a wide open.

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Speaker 1: All right, I thank you for not saying it. I'm

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00:44:07,400 --> 00:44:11,559
doing the biggest wild card. Bogey Bogue's gonna have two

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good games in a row.

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Speaker 4: Wow, he just did true.

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Speaker 1: Okay, four, I'm offered that to four.

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Speaker 5: We get to four.

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Speaker 3: He's gonna shoot, He's gonna shoot, well, he's gonna put

826
00:44:23,920 --> 00:44:25,800
on the floor. Maybe a little small, small pick and roll,

827
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who knows. I think Bogue's gonna be key. If the

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Clippers want to win both of these games, I think

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00:44:31,519 --> 00:44:34,159
they'll probably split. But I think Bogey's gonna play good.

830
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And here's the Kauhi playing some good isolation defense. I

831
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think we can coming up.

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Speaker 4: I feel like they're gonna get both. I probably shouldn't.

833
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I'm probably just riding the high off last night.

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Speaker 5: It feels, I mean, it feels far more attainable than

835
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I guess any stretch sense coming out of the All

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00:44:55,360 --> 00:45:00,800
Star break. Yeah, which, to be fair, not the easiest

837
00:45:00,840 --> 00:45:02,119
stretch of games either.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, not wrong, It wasn't. I said you're wrong.

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Speaker 4: Eight game road trip, that's crazy.

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00:45:13,079 --> 00:45:17,559
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's a lot anything else in the Clippers sphere.

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Before we wrap this thing up. We all right, there

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00:45:24,519 --> 00:45:26,840
we go. Thank you for hanging out. We're probably gonna be.

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Speaker 3: Doing some postgame stuff on Sunday for sure. Check out

844
00:45:30,199 --> 00:45:35,239
Adam on Clippers Talk after and during the game tomorrow

845
00:45:35,320 --> 00:45:38,039
versus the next I'm gonna be on a Knicks podcast tomorrow,

846
00:45:38,039 --> 00:45:41,519
which should be a good time with Andrew Claudio. Will

847
00:45:41,800 --> 00:45:47,199
where can listeners? Tell anyone who wants to hear it

848
00:45:47,320 --> 00:45:49,280
where they can listen to this podcast.

849
00:45:49,480 --> 00:45:51,599
Speaker 5: Oh yeah, you can listen to this podcast wherever you

850
00:45:51,719 --> 00:45:53,719
get podcasts. If you have to listen over on Apple

851
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Podcasts or Spotify, go ahead, leave a little rate and

852
00:45:55,960 --> 00:45:58,760
review It helps us out. The best way to consume

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00:45:58,800 --> 00:46:01,280
this podcast is over on you to dot com slash

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00:46:01,320 --> 00:46:04,480
at Clippers podcast. But hey, whoever you watch, whoever you listen,

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00:46:04,840 --> 00:46:05,920
you know we appreciate you.

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00:46:07,639 --> 00:46:08,039
Speaker 1: Very much.

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Speaker 3: Do adam one positive thing to send these Clippers off

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on their weekend.

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Speaker 4: You know, we all thought James Harden was tuckered out,

860
00:46:18,360 --> 00:46:21,679
he was fully fatigued. There was no way he'd have

861
00:46:21,719 --> 00:46:24,599
a performance like that on a back to back. I

862
00:46:24,599 --> 00:46:27,119
guess he's still got plenty of left of the take here, guys,

863
00:46:27,159 --> 00:46:30,559
so we're gonna need him, especially with four back to back. Still,

864
00:46:30,639 --> 00:46:32,679
we don't expect why I'd be playing in those games

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left in the last twenty games. So I was very

866
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encouraged to see James Harden throw it down last night

867
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and into it. I'm on his way to fifty.

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00:46:43,719 --> 00:46:46,920
Speaker 1: Pretty awesome, there we go, Thank you, so much for

869
00:46:46,960 --> 00:46:47,519
hanging out.

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Speaker 3: Here's to a successful weekend and as always, let's go clips.

