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<v Speaker 1>It's time for Coffee and company, fueled by Thornton's on

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<v Speaker 1>Sports Talk seven nine day. Now here's Nick Coffee.

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<v Speaker 2>This may be something that's been out there for a

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<v Speaker 2>couple of days and I just missed it, but it

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<v Speaker 2>just now came across my timeline here that it'll be

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<v Speaker 2>Marshawn Lynch being the celebrity guest picker for college game

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<v Speaker 2>Day as game Day will be at Cal as they

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<v Speaker 2>host Miami, which is just I mean, if you'd have

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<v Speaker 2>told me that Cal would be warranting a trip from

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<v Speaker 2>the college Game Day crew, I wouldn't believe you. Now,

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<v Speaker 2>obviously Miami being there is a big factor, but Cal's

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<v Speaker 2>gotten off to a much better start than really anybody

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<v Speaker 2>would have expected. They did give Florida State their only win,

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<v Speaker 2>which is wildly now actually a bad look for them.

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<v Speaker 2>But they beat Auburn at Auburn, which even if Auburn's

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<v Speaker 2>down like that's not something anybody would have expected. And

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<v Speaker 2>they've become like the star of social media so far

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<v Speaker 2>this college football season, and it's it's, you know, four

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<v Speaker 2>or five different accounts that have created all these memes

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<v Speaker 2>and whatnot. And somebody actually asked me this, I think

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<v Speaker 2>it might have been last week on the text line, Nick,

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<v Speaker 2>can you explain what I'm missing with the Cal fan

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<v Speaker 2>base and why everybody loves them on Twitter? And maybe like,

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<v Speaker 2>maybe you don't get what they're doing as far as

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<v Speaker 2>the humor in it. And I'm not gonna act like

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<v Speaker 2>it's you know, gut busting laughter, but self deprecation always plays,

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<v Speaker 2>at least it does for me. And Cal is leaning

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<v Speaker 2>into what you know is a stereotype about him and

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<v Speaker 2>having fun with it.

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<v Speaker 3>Right.

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<v Speaker 2>Cal Berkeley is known to be a very woke school,

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<v Speaker 2>very left leaning, very liberal liberal and you know, apparently

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<v Speaker 2>Florida State fans when they were talking about not wanting

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<v Speaker 2>Cal in the league. I don't have a clue of

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<v Speaker 2>Florida State's fan base is mostly Democratic or Republican.

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<v Speaker 4>I don't care, but clearly they have some.

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<v Speaker 2>Republican fans who, you know, when talking about Cal, instead

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<v Speaker 2>of just you know, mentioning that they are a subpar

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<v Speaker 2>program that doesn't belong in the ACC in the same

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<v Speaker 2>league with the elite, legendary Florida State program, they brought

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<v Speaker 2>up the fact that they're all woke and they're tree

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<v Speaker 2>huggers and whatnot, and all they did for the week

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<v Speaker 2>of the Florida State game. That's when it really took off,

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<v Speaker 2>is that they were creating all these AI artificial artificial

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<v Speaker 2>intelligence graphics of their mascot, which I don't know the

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<v Speaker 2>mascot's name, Oski Oscy Oscy the Bear, I.

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<v Speaker 4>Think is the name.

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<v Speaker 2>And they just did all these different either Photoshop or

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<v Speaker 2>AI to create all of these and you'd have to

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<v Speaker 2>go see it forr tou really makes sense. But like

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<v Speaker 2>a bunch of LGBTQ things like making fun of Florida State,

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<v Speaker 2>it was funny, but like it's one of those things

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<v Speaker 2>that you kind of you got to be kind of

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<v Speaker 2>in the weeds of Twitter to understand the humor. However,

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<v Speaker 2>I think what's made them funny is that like they're

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<v Speaker 2>aware of how people perceive them. They're aware that like

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<v Speaker 2>they're not a great football program, and yet they're having

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<v Speaker 2>more success than anybody would have thought, and they're rubbing

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<v Speaker 2>it in people's faces, especially Florida State. Like that's when

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<v Speaker 2>it really took off. But now they're playing Miami and uh,

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<v Speaker 2>Woke versus Coke has been referenced a bunch this week

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<v Speaker 2>because obviously, you know, if you're going to think of

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<v Speaker 2>what city and you know, take away just the Miami

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<v Speaker 2>football program. If you're gonna think of what city in

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<v Speaker 2>America might have more cocaine than any others, Miami would

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<v Speaker 2>probably be in the list. I don't know if there's

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<v Speaker 2>been any stories that I've missed out on where cocaine

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<v Speaker 2>is involved in the Miami football program. But either way,

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<v Speaker 2>Woke versus Coke, I thought that was I thought that's great. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>it's good stuff. And you know, I don't think that

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<v Speaker 2>they're going to be a great program moving forward in football.

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<v Speaker 2>And I would say of the schools that you added,

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<v Speaker 2>Cal is easily the one that you know has the

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<v Speaker 2>least relevance in you know, the last ten to fifteen years.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, Stanford's been down for a little while, but

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<v Speaker 2>let's be real, when David Shaw was there and when

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<v Speaker 2>Harball was there, they were good. So you know, this year,

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<v Speaker 2>I mean it's Cal. What is Cal's record? So right

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<v Speaker 2>now they're sitting at three and one and their wins

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<v Speaker 2>are against San Diego State, which was a blowout that

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<v Speaker 2>actually was a good win for them, and then they

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<v Speaker 2>beat Auburn, and then they beat UC Davis and then

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<v Speaker 2>lost nine to fourteen to Florida State, and Miami is

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<v Speaker 2>their next opponent, so we'll see, we'll see how that

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<v Speaker 2>one plays out. I don't like their chances against Miami,

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<v Speaker 2>but maybe, you know, maybe I mean Miami I think

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<v Speaker 2>is still in the driver's seat to win this league

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<v Speaker 2>because I just think they look like the best team

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<v Speaker 2>right now. But it was nice to see them look

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<v Speaker 2>very vulnerable in that game against Virginia Tech, a game

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<v Speaker 2>that you know, it wasn't for that questionable call at

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<v Speaker 2>the end of the game, it might not have won.

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<v Speaker 2>And if Miami slips up before you get they get

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<v Speaker 2>to Louisville, not saying they will, in fact on you

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<v Speaker 2>know who they play after Heck, they might be on

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<v Speaker 2>a byway before they come to Louisville. But like you

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<v Speaker 2>know that that might take a little bit away from

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<v Speaker 2>the value there, But at this point it doesn't matter.

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<v Speaker 2>You want you want teams, like you know, you want

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<v Speaker 2>teams that are going to be in that top tier

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<v Speaker 2>competing with you.

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<v Speaker 4>Hopefully Louisville can be in that tier as well.

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<v Speaker 2>That looks like you've got a chance to find yourself

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<v Speaker 2>in the top two, which of course gets you a

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<v Speaker 2>chance in the championship and if you win that, you're

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<v Speaker 2>in the playoffs. So, you know, I think it used

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<v Speaker 2>to be, well, you you want your league to do

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<v Speaker 2>really well because you want, you know, you want your

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<v Speaker 2>wins to to look like they've got, you know, pretty

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<v Speaker 2>good value. And I guess you still want that to

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<v Speaker 2>an extent, but really it doesn't matter now. I mean

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<v Speaker 2>you could you should root. I mean again, when the

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<v Speaker 2>ACC teams play each other, you know, one of the

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<v Speaker 2>one of the teams in the league is gonna get

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<v Speaker 2>a win. But like, I think we can kind of

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<v Speaker 2>move on from when it comes to like conference play. Like,

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<v Speaker 2>if you know there's a team that's got a shot

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<v Speaker 2>to be in that top tier, you root for the bad.

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<v Speaker 2>You know, you root for the upset happen. And maybe

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<v Speaker 2>you all maybe you always have done that, but I'm

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<v Speaker 2>somebody that you know, like for example, it didn't really

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<v Speaker 2>matter and it wasn't really a big talking point at

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<v Speaker 2>that at that point, but you know, one of the

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<v Speaker 2>first things that somebody said whenever Notre Dame lost to

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<v Speaker 2>we were doing a postgame show on the air, whenever

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<v Speaker 2>Notre Dame lost in Northern Illinois, and you know, one

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<v Speaker 2>that you know, now that's going to make that win

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<v Speaker 2>have a little less value there if Louisville can pull

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<v Speaker 2>off the wind. So yeah, it looks like right now

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<v Speaker 2>Miami will uh, Miami will play let's see. Yeah, they've

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<v Speaker 2>got a they've got a week off before before they

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<v Speaker 2>play Louisville, so they'll be well rested when they come

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<v Speaker 2>into Cardinal Stadium on October nineteenth. All Right, it's coffee

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<v Speaker 3>All right, So.

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<v Speaker 2>This text sextually came in yesterday, but I highlighted it

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<v Speaker 2>to remember to go back because it's it's a fair question,

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<v Speaker 2>but says Nick, I totally agree with you when it

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<v Speaker 2>comes to your thoughts on recruiting high school freshmen. It's

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<v Speaker 2>not as critical as it once was with the transfer portal.

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<v Speaker 2>But I know Kelsey and his staff are actively recruiting

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<v Speaker 2>a lot of guys in the twenty twenty five class

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<v Speaker 2>and the twenty twenty five class, and it seems really

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<v Speaker 2>really quiet right now. Do you still think they'll end

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<v Speaker 2>up getting some really good freshmen. I hope they will,

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<v Speaker 2>but I won't fake outrage or great concern if they

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<v Speaker 2>end up only maybe getting a couple of freshmen and

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<v Speaker 2>maybe it's not you know I wanted to get. I mean, look, look,

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<v Speaker 2>they're still in the mix for some really good players.

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<v Speaker 2>But if you follow recruiting or you follow Trully Donovan,

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<v Speaker 2>you know it's not quite clear if Losville is the

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<v Speaker 2>leader on any of those big names. So here's one

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<v Speaker 2>thing that both Pat Kelsey and Mark Pope are going

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<v Speaker 2>to have to show, and it's called proof of concept.

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<v Speaker 2>These guys have a lot to sell where they are.

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<v Speaker 2>Pat Kelsey obviously is leading a program that has a

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<v Speaker 2>lot of NIEL money. You know, Louisville has a big

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<v Speaker 2>fan base. You play at an NBA arena. I know

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<v Speaker 2>kids don't seem to really care about tradition anymore, and

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<v Speaker 2>I get it, But when it comes to the things

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<v Speaker 2>that kids really do care about money. I mean, that's

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<v Speaker 2>part of it playing style, and Pat Kelsey can show

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<v Speaker 2>them how he's coached his teams and how he could

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<v Speaker 2>really you know, utilize the strengths of certain players. And

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<v Speaker 2>Louisville despite being really bad lately, and it's been a

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<v Speaker 2>long time since Louisville was nationally relevant in hoops to

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<v Speaker 2>you know, these guys were probably really really young kids

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<v Speaker 2>when that happened. But you can know that Louisville has

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<v Speaker 2>been down lately. But if you're a high school basketball

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<v Speaker 2>recruit at at a high level, like you know, Louisville's

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<v Speaker 2>one of the top ten programs of all time, I

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<v Speaker 2>would assume I mean, maybe I'm wrong, but like I

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<v Speaker 2>think if you just if you're a sixteen seventeen year

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<v Speaker 2>because you know you're gonna play college hoops, I feel

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<v Speaker 2>like you would have some familiarity with like who the

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<v Speaker 2>all time great programs are. And Louisville certainly not in

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<v Speaker 2>that top tier, but they're in the second tier, right

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<v Speaker 2>outside the top tier when it comes to like overall accomplishments. Historically,

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<v Speaker 2>now that doesn't really matter when it comes to like, well,

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<v Speaker 2>I'm gonna go to Louisville because they won a title

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<v Speaker 2>in the last eleven years, but the brand still matters,

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<v Speaker 2>and despite how bad they've been lately, they're you know,

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<v Speaker 2>it'll take a long time for Louisville basketball to turn

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<v Speaker 2>into you know, they'd have to be really really bad

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<v Speaker 2>for a really really long time to turn into you know,

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<v Speaker 2>DePaul or Houston or something like that. By the way,

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<v Speaker 2>Houston's great right now, but they went through that, right

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<v Speaker 2>They went titles long, long ago, and then they seemingly

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<v Speaker 2>didn't exist for a while. So Georgetown's another example. So

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<v Speaker 2>you know what I'm getting at is like, you've got

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<v Speaker 2>a lot to sell. But none of these coaches, I mean,

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<v Speaker 2>neither of these coaches, Pack Hill's or Mark Pope. They

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<v Speaker 2>haven't actually shown that they're gonna be good here. And

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<v Speaker 2>I think fans on both sides are justified in believing

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<v Speaker 2>that both of these coaches could have a lot of success,

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<v Speaker 2>and these may be very lengthy tenures that we all

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<v Speaker 2>look back on many many many years from now and say, wow,

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<v Speaker 2>that was a lot of fun. Josh Hurb made the

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<v Speaker 2>right hire, got the right guy. Mitch Barnhardt Man, he

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<v Speaker 2>really he knew what he was doing, which will if

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<v Speaker 2>that If that is the case, it'll be a good

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<v Speaker 2>whenever you found out that those were going to be

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<v Speaker 2>relatively similar schools, even if you really like Pope, even

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<v Speaker 2>if you really like Pat Kelsey, if you if you've

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<v Speaker 2>got a similar role, similar nil money, similar program. But

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<v Speaker 2>the coach that's at these other program they've made a

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<v Speaker 2>final four, maybe multiple final fours, maybe they've won a title.

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<v Speaker 2>Like that's going to give you an edge over Pat

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<v Speaker 2>Kelsey and Mark Pope because again proof of concept. They've

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<v Speaker 2>what I'm doing at Louisville. Watch us the last few years.

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<v Speaker 2>We got a lot of momentum. You could be somebody

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<v Speaker 2>So I'm not making excuses, it's just a fact. Like

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<v Speaker 2>and I love Pat Kelsey and I really liked his energy,

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<v Speaker 2>a decision, you know, in November or you know, January,

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<v Speaker 2>whatever it is. Like if it's just one year, like

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<v Speaker 2>you know, you're a disadvantage. It's nobody's fault. It's just

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<v Speaker 2>you've never coached at these big schools and nobody truly

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<v Speaker 2>knows how successful you're going to be, and that matters

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<v Speaker 2>when kids make decisions. So proof of concept, I think,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, the fact they've already got Connie russ Is

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<v Speaker 2>Pat Kelsey knowing he had other options. And you know

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<v Speaker 2>that's before Pat ever coached a game here. So and look,

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<v Speaker 2>I'm not at all surprised that I've already got a

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<v Speaker 2>few texts coming in on the text line, the Ellen

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<v Speaker 2>and Federal Credit Union text line that you know, what

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<v Speaker 2>are you talking about, Mark Poh, He's already got He's

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<v Speaker 2>already got to league guys he does, and that's you know,

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<v Speaker 2>that's that's great for him, and I'm not saying that

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<v Speaker 2>like he doesn't deserve major credit for Jasper Johnson and

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<v Speaker 2>Malachi Mareno because you know, he recruited him and it

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<v Speaker 2>didn't look good with I think Malaca Moreno was always

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<v Speaker 2>going to go to Kentucky unless Cal was there, and

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<v Speaker 2>I'm not sure Kylind wonted him. But with Jasper Johnson,

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<v Speaker 2>by all accounts, it didn't look great for him. It

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<v Speaker 2>didn't look like he Kentucky was going to be, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>in the mix. It was going to be Bama or Carolina,

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<v Speaker 2>and Pope and his staff, you know, they fixed that.

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<v Speaker 2>They found more money through Nil and we're able to

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<v Speaker 2>convince him to come to Kentucky. So again, I'm not

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<v Speaker 2>taking credit away, but let's also just not ignore a

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<v Speaker 2>big factor. Both of these kids are from Kentucky. Jasper

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<v Speaker 2>Johnson's entire family is affiliated with UK Athletics seemingly in

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<v Speaker 2>some way, and Malachi is from Georgetown, big UK fan,

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<v Speaker 2>grew up a huge Cats fan. So again I'm not saying, well, hey, no,

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<v Speaker 2>it doesn't matter. Any coach could have got those guys

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<v Speaker 2>because they wanted to go to Kentucky. Trust me, that's

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<v Speaker 2>not what I'm saying, but if those guys weren't right

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<v Speaker 2>here in Kentucky with that connection, I'm not sure Pope

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<v Speaker 2>would have been able to get them for a visit.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, maybe I'm wrong and we'll never know, but

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<v Speaker 2>that's actually something that, you know, I think Pope should

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<v Speaker 2>be praised for is realizing, hey, this is a really

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<v Speaker 2>good way to get some momentum going for us. I

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<v Speaker 2>want to really prioritize these two guys who not only

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<v Speaker 2>are from here and good players, but like they're really

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<v Speaker 2>good players. I mean, it really worked out well for

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<v Speaker 2>Pope to where he's got what two thirty players that

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<v Speaker 2>have committed, and rarely do you get two players from

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<v Speaker 2>the state that are that good in the same class,

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<v Speaker 2>and it worked out well for him. So again I'm

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<v Speaker 2>not saying, like you know, but let's put it this way.

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<v Speaker 2>I would say, right now, if Kentucky's going head to

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<v Speaker 2>head with Baylor, meaning Scott Drew, Bill self at Kansas,

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<v Speaker 2>even John Shire at Duke, who else I'm trying to

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<v Speaker 2>think of like the elite obviously Hurley at Yukon, and

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<v Speaker 2>there's other programs that recruit really well, but like Pope

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<v Speaker 2>and Kelsey like, I think you're gonna be at somewhat

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<v Speaker 2>of a disadvantage with the other elite programs. One because

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<v Speaker 2>you know, you can be in a perfect situation and

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<v Speaker 2>loser recruit to Baylor or Duke or Kansas, because you

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<v Speaker 2>know what, if you're going head to head with them,

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<v Speaker 2>you're gonna lose a lot more than you win, unless

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<v Speaker 2>your name is John cal Perry. But until you show

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<v Speaker 2>proof of concept that what you're selling there's actually some

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<v Speaker 2>some proof and results that it's working, I think it's

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<v Speaker 2>just you know, and again that's nobody's fault it. It's

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<v Speaker 2>just gonna take some time, all right. Speaking of Louisville Live,

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<v Speaker 2>which I said, I don't think we've talked about louis Alive,

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<v Speaker 2>but I guess speaking of Louisville Basketball, we now know

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<v Speaker 2>the participants in both the Dunk Contest and the three

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<v Speaker 2>point Shootout, and I don't I don't understand whether there's

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<v Speaker 2>only three people participating in the three point shootout. Do

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<v Speaker 2>they give these guys the option that you have to qualify?

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<v Speaker 2>I have questions. There's only three in the three point

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<v Speaker 2>shootout and four in the dunk contest, So in the

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<v Speaker 2>three point shootout, you've got Caseon pryor Rain Smith and

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<v Speaker 2>Noah Waterman. I would say, I mean Rain Smith statistically

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<v Speaker 2>is your best shooter because he was one of the

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<v Speaker 2>best shooters in college basketball last year. I mean, that

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<v Speaker 2>is what he does. That is what he's out there

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<v Speaker 2>to do. Not to say he's terrible at everything else,

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<v Speaker 2>but like the tool he's got in his bag is

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<v Speaker 2>really really efficient three point shot that can change a game.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, he can knock four down in a in

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<v Speaker 2>a in a few minutes and completely flip a game.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't want to say he's Ryan McMahon, but like

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<v Speaker 2>that's what Ryan did. Ryan would have games where he

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<v Speaker 2>gets hot, he got a nine point swing and a

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<v Speaker 2>matter of three possessions at times. But with Cason, obviously

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<v Speaker 2>he's a guy that can stretch the floor and shoot it.

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<v Speaker 2>But I went a little surprised to see that he's

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, look, if if these are the only three

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<v Speaker 2>that wanted to do it, then you know whatever. But

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<v Speaker 2>Noah Waterman is a really good shooter. In fact, I'm

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<v Speaker 2>gonna I'm gonna pick Noah Watt. So that's that I

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<v Speaker 2>picked yesterday. When it comes to the three point shootout,

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<v Speaker 2>I'm going I'm sorry. The dunk contest, I'm going with

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<v Speaker 2>Cater Treira, and then the three point shootout, I'm going

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<v Speaker 2>Noah Waterman. But it wouldn't be shocked if the other

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<v Speaker 2>two potentially win, because three point shootouts that kind of

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<v Speaker 2>you know, that that that way of doing it instead

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<v Speaker 2>of just catching and shooting or in a real game situation, like.

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<v Speaker 4>There are guys who are elite shooters.

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<v Speaker 2>In game that just aren't great at picking a ball

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<v Speaker 2>up off a rack five straight times and then moving

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<v Speaker 2>to the other side, like it's a different thing. I mean, technically,

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<v Speaker 2>you're still shooting a basketball and your form is, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>relatively the same, I would imagine. But Reggie Miller, one

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<v Speaker 2>of the best shooters of all time, I don't know

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<v Speaker 2>if he ever won a three point shootout, and Reggie's

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<v Speaker 2>my favorite player ever. Therefore, I feel like I would

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<v Speaker 2>I say that not knowing it, and now I got

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<v Speaker 2>to look it up because I feel like if he

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<v Speaker 2>if he would have won one, I would remember because

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<v Speaker 2>again he was he's to the stay of my favorite

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<v Speaker 2>NBA player of all time, But I don't think he was.

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<v Speaker 2>If he did win one, it was probably if he

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<v Speaker 2>did win one, that was probably just that one, and

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<v Speaker 2>he was He's a great shooter, but I don't think

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<v Speaker 2>he ever was great at that.

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<v Speaker 4>Take a guest, John, you think he ever won one?

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<v Speaker 4>Let's just go with yes, he didn't.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh so he participated in the eighty nine to ninety

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<v Speaker 2>ninety three, ninety five, ninety eight, so in five different

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<v Speaker 2>three point shootouts in the NBA, he never won one.

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<v Speaker 2>He fared well, but never actually got to the final two.

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<v Speaker 2>So yeah, I'm gonna go Noah Waterman for the three

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<v Speaker 2>point shootout and Cater trail Way for the dunk contest.

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<v Speaker 2>We shall see. All right, let's get to a quick break.

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<v Speaker 2>How about me keeping this thing on track better than

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<v Speaker 2>you know I usually do. We are gonna have a

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<v Speaker 2>guest coming up here in about twenty twenty five minutes

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<v Speaker 2>or so. That's doctor Eric McElroy from pro Reaf Physical Therapy.

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<v Speaker 2>What I want to get to. On the other side,

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<v Speaker 2>there is a very unusual suspension that's been laid down

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<v Speaker 2>by Eli Drinkwitz. He has suspended one of his staffers

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<v Speaker 2>for the week, and the reason is, I feel like

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<v Speaker 2>a very rare occurrence. But I gotta say, if I

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<v Speaker 2>was Eli Drinkwitz, I'd probably do the same thing. So

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<v Speaker 2>we'll get to that and a lot more. It's Coffee

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<v Speaker 2>and Company feel about Thornton's right here on Sports Talk

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<v Speaker 2>seven ninety. So it looks like there are a total of,

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<v Speaker 2>let's see here, five teams that have got off to

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<v Speaker 2>a five and oh start BYU Duke Indiana, Miami in Texas,

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<v Speaker 2>and Brett McMurphy has a rundown here of the last

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<v Speaker 2>time each of those teams started five and oh and

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<v Speaker 2>what their record ended up being in what their final

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<v Speaker 4>So the Hoosiers, do you know the answer to this, John.

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<v Speaker 5>I know their best start was eight and o and

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<v Speaker 5>now believe it was nineteen sixty seven.

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<v Speaker 3>They ended up going to the Rose Bowl that year.

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<v Speaker 4>Yep, you're right.

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<v Speaker 2>So in sixty seven they started five and oh, finished

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<v Speaker 2>nine and two and their final ranking was number four.

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<v Speaker 2>Texas did it last year, of course, and went twelve

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<v Speaker 2>and two and finished number three and made it all

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<v Speaker 2>the way to the playoff.

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<v Speaker 4>BYU did it.

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<v Speaker 2>In twenty twenty one. They finished ten and three that

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<v Speaker 2>year and in the top twenty at nineteen. Miami did

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<v Speaker 2>it in twenty seventeen. That was the one year where

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<v Speaker 2>Mark Rick was very successful. They went ten and three,

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<v Speaker 2>finished number thirteen. That was Miami's last good season, at

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<v Speaker 2>least at that level. And then Duke Duke went eight

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<v Speaker 2>and four after starting five and oh in nineteen ninety four,

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<v Speaker 2>but they did not finish the season ranked. Were they

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<v Speaker 2>playing acc football in ninety four, I mean, I guess

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<v Speaker 2>they would have. I don't know of them ever being

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<v Speaker 2>in any other league, but yeah, of those, I mean,

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<v Speaker 2>clearly Duke in Indiana being five and oh is not

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<v Speaker 2>something that you know and apparently to say very often.

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<v Speaker 5>Apparently Indiana has a chance to be the first team

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<v Speaker 5>to reach six and ode based on the time each

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<v Speaker 5>of these teams play this weekend, which is wild to

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<v Speaker 5>be the first Bowl eligible team of twenty twenty.

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<v Speaker 2>It's Northwestern, right, Yes, they're gonna win. I mean they're

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<v Speaker 2>gonna Kirk Signetti is gonna be Bowl eligible by October fifth.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean say it out loud like that's it's crazy.

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<v Speaker 4>It is weird.

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<v Speaker 3>But and we'll go into the bye week.

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<v Speaker 2>Are you finding yourself at times like not? In because again,

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<v Speaker 2>like let's like we all know that that part of

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<v Speaker 2>the reason that they've been able to do this is

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<v Speaker 2>because you know, they've yet to play like a really

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<v Speaker 2>good team, but either way, there's still waymore.

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<v Speaker 5>They've had schedules too, mentioned this yesterday that have been

418
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<v Speaker 5>favorable that they don't take advantagey exactly.

419
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<v Speaker 2>And you know, they beat the hell out of Maryland.

420
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<v Speaker 2>They beat the hell out of every CLA. Yeah, they've

421
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<v Speaker 2>covered every spread. So they're not just beating teams that

422
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<v Speaker 2>you know aren't great, They're they're beating them down. But

423
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<v Speaker 2>as an Indiana fan, do you ever find yourself in

424
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<v Speaker 2>the last couple of weeks kind of thinking like is

425
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<v Speaker 2>this real?

426
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<v Speaker 1>Yeah?

427
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<v Speaker 5>And I think I think once they'll they'll have a

428
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<v Speaker 5>bye week after this weekend, and then they'll face Nebraska

429
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<v Speaker 5>the following week at home, and I think depending on

430
00:21:30.759 --> 00:21:34.200
<v Speaker 5>how that game plays out, we'll really determine where you

431
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<v Speaker 5>can set the ceiling at for the rest of the season.

432
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<v Speaker 2>And that's a great test because Nebraska is a team

433
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<v Speaker 2>that I believe actually has good players and they're well coached.

434
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<v Speaker 2>I don't think they're elite. They ended up who they

435
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<v Speaker 2>lose to, that was Illinois, Yeah that was but Illinois,

436
00:21:48.240 --> 00:21:50.720
<v Speaker 2>you know, is a pretty good team.

437
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<v Speaker 4>Is that their only loss this year so far?

438
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<v Speaker 1>Yeah? Yeah?

439
00:21:53.119 --> 00:21:56.279
<v Speaker 2>And they really had to. I mean they they're freshman quarterback,

440
00:21:56.279 --> 00:21:59.799
<v Speaker 2>who's great. He had a freshman moment late in that.

441
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<v Speaker 3>Game, annihilated in overtime.

442
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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, I mean it was. It was bad for him,

443
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<v Speaker 4>but that's what happens.

444
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<v Speaker 2>You know, He's still worthy of a starting spot considering

445
00:22:07.559 --> 00:22:09.960
<v Speaker 2>all the good plays that he's made. But yeah, it

446
00:22:10.000 --> 00:22:11.680
<v Speaker 2>was not good for him in that one. All right,

447
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<v Speaker 2>it's coffee and Company Field about Thornton's here on Sports

448
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<v Speaker 2>Talk seven ninety. Appreciate you hanging out with us here

449
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<v Speaker 2>on a Thursday afternoon. So I found this to be

450
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<v Speaker 2>a very interesting story, and I found myself wondering what

451
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<v Speaker 2>I would do if I was Eli Drinkwitz and wondering

452
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<v Speaker 2>how I would feel if I was this staffer. So

453
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<v Speaker 2>Missouri's going to visit Texas A and M on Saturday,

454
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<v Speaker 2>ABC noon, same time Louisville plays, and it's I mean,

455
00:22:38.440 --> 00:22:42.880
<v Speaker 2>it's it's a big game, especially considering how light the

456
00:22:43.319 --> 00:22:46.880
<v Speaker 2>schedule is this week. As far as you know, well,

457
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<v Speaker 2>I guess it is a matchup against two ranked teams

458
00:22:49.759 --> 00:22:52.079
<v Speaker 2>because A and M is ranked number twenty five. So

459
00:22:53.240 --> 00:22:54.680
<v Speaker 2>but maybe are they not ranked in one of the

460
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<v Speaker 2>poles or something I don't know either.

461
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<v Speaker 5>Are there in the coaches Paul believe they're unranked in

462
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<v Speaker 5>the Gotcha they're tied with UNLV.

463
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<v Speaker 3>It's kind of weird gotcha.

464
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<v Speaker 2>Okay, So Marcel Reid is a red shirt freshman for

465
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<v Speaker 2>Texas A and M, and he's their starting quarterback. He

466
00:23:07.599 --> 00:23:09.599
<v Speaker 2>came in for Connor Weekman during A and m's win

467
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<v Speaker 2>over I think it was McNee State, and he really

468
00:23:13.319 --> 00:23:16.000
<v Speaker 2>got that offense going, and A and M has not

469
00:23:16.079 --> 00:23:18.640
<v Speaker 2>looked back since then. I mean, in three starts, he's

470
00:23:18.680 --> 00:23:22.119
<v Speaker 2>thrown for five hundred and fourteen yards, six touchdowns, no interceptions.

471
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<v Speaker 2>He's rushed for about two hundred yards and also has

472
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<v Speaker 2>two scores on the ground. So he's I mean, he's

473
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<v Speaker 2>really really good. However, they've said at A and M

474
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<v Speaker 2>that they're going to go back to Weekman and Eli

475
00:23:35.839 --> 00:23:37.039
<v Speaker 2>Drinkwich I think is right here.

476
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<v Speaker 4>He's not buying it.

477
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<v Speaker 2>He's saying that that's just semantics. I mean, he's highlighting

478
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<v Speaker 2>that this team has been way better with the backup

479
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<v Speaker 2>who's now the starter, Marcel Reid. So I guess it's

480
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<v Speaker 2>just some gamesmanship here. But the reason I bring this

481
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<v Speaker 2>up is because one of the things that Drinkwitz learned

482
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<v Speaker 2>about Marcel Reid, the you know, the quarterback who honestly

483
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<v Speaker 2>probably made A and M fans feel a lot better

484
00:24:03.279 --> 00:24:06.119
<v Speaker 2>about their season after he came in and ignited the offense.

485
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<v Speaker 2>But he was unaware until Reid led A and M

486
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<v Speaker 2>to a victory at Florida, meaning drink Wits, because he

487
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<v Speaker 2>has a staffer on like Missouri has an assistant coach

488
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<v Speaker 2>meeting the coach that works for drink Wits that is

489
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<v Speaker 2>the brother of this quarterback. So yeah, it's the assistant

490
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<v Speaker 2>director of on campus recruiting. I'm sorry, it's a sister,

491
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<v Speaker 2>is Bria Reid. So he's he's decided to suspend her

492
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<v Speaker 2>for a week where she's not allowed around the team

493
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<v Speaker 2>at all. She's not allowed at practice. I don't even

494
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<v Speaker 2>think she can show up to the team facility because

495
00:24:45.440 --> 00:24:51.079
<v Speaker 2>you know, coaches are super paranoid. Coaches are super you know, paranoid.

496
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<v Speaker 2>I guess that's the best word to use. I mean

497
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<v Speaker 2>they're weird and and you know, just do weird things.

498
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<v Speaker 2>And I don't really know if this is weird or not.

499
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<v Speaker 2>Do you think this is like a well, I mean,

500
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<v Speaker 2>he what he is thinking is that he does not

501
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<v Speaker 2>want his staffer who he hired to be sharing secrets

502
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<v Speaker 2>with her brother and or her family. And her family

503
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<v Speaker 2>could maybe tell the brother, like have a hard time

504
00:25:14.480 --> 00:25:17.240
<v Speaker 2>seeing that happening, But again, you know, it's high level,

505
00:25:17.359 --> 00:25:20.720
<v Speaker 2>high competition here, maybe that would happen. But he's playing

506
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<v Speaker 2>it safe and just making sure she's not around at

507
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<v Speaker 2>all to hear anything about the game plan that Missouri

508
00:25:25.559 --> 00:25:27.880
<v Speaker 2>has for this A and M game, because her brother

509
00:25:27.920 --> 00:25:31.240
<v Speaker 2>is the quarterback for A and M. I wouldn't even

510
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<v Speaker 2>think to do this because I would feel bad. But

511
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<v Speaker 2>then again, I guess it's not crazy, right, Like she's

512
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<v Speaker 2>getting paid. It's not like he's telling her she's being punished.

513
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<v Speaker 2>A suspension is probably not the right way to word it.

514
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<v Speaker 2>That's the article, That's how they worded it. But like

515
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<v Speaker 2>I kind of get it, to be honest with you,

516
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<v Speaker 2>if I was the employee, I don't know if I

517
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<v Speaker 2>would be as understanding because I would probably be worried

518
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<v Speaker 2>that you think I would, you know, sacrifice my job,

519
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<v Speaker 2>maybe my career by giving my little brothers some you know,

520
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<v Speaker 2>some tips.

521
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<v Speaker 3>I think that's the thing.

522
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<v Speaker 5>I bet there are people out there, maybe it's not

523
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<v Speaker 5>this person specifically, who were if they were in this

524
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<v Speaker 5>exact same situation, they would take advantage of that.

525
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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, yeah, that's true, and you really would never know.

526
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<v Speaker 2>But him keeping her away, I guess is his best

527
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<v Speaker 2>way of saying, well, at least she's not going to

528
00:26:19.440 --> 00:26:23.319
<v Speaker 2>be around anybody that you know is in practice when

529
00:26:23.319 --> 00:26:25.319
<v Speaker 2>we are installing the game plan and what we're going

530
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<v Speaker 2>to do to try to try to win this game.

531
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<v Speaker 2>And it's a big game for Missouri, big game for

532
00:26:29.400 --> 00:26:31.160
<v Speaker 2>both teams. To be honest with you, but I would

533
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<v Speaker 2>be willing to bet that that's a rare thing in

534
00:26:34.079 --> 00:26:38.079
<v Speaker 2>college football where the head coach has decided to and again,

535
00:26:38.119 --> 00:26:40.200
<v Speaker 2>she's not an on field coach. She's she's the director

536
00:26:40.240 --> 00:26:42.599
<v Speaker 2>of on campus recruiting, but she's still embedded within the

537
00:26:42.640 --> 00:26:45.319
<v Speaker 2>program and the team every day. I mean, it's it's

538
00:26:45.359 --> 00:26:47.960
<v Speaker 2>a full time position and you know your your office

539
00:26:48.000 --> 00:26:50.920
<v Speaker 2>is at the facility. I'm sure, so just a rare,

540
00:26:51.480 --> 00:26:54.200
<v Speaker 2>unusual situation, But if you think about it, I kind

541
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<v Speaker 2>of get it from Eli Drinkwitz's perspective there. All right,

542
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<v Speaker 2>So before we get to our next break and bring

543
00:27:01.440 --> 00:27:03.880
<v Speaker 2>in doctor Eric McElroy of pro Reap Physical Therapy, a

544
00:27:03.960 --> 00:27:06.519
<v Speaker 2>text that I referenced earlier. I'll just read it directly.

545
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<v Speaker 2>It says Nick, I'm actually going to start pulling for

546
00:27:08.920 --> 00:27:12.720
<v Speaker 2>Kentucky for every game here on out, because the better

547
00:27:12.759 --> 00:27:13.920
<v Speaker 2>they are at the end of the year, when we

548
00:27:13.960 --> 00:27:16.000
<v Speaker 2>lose to them, it won't look as bad. And I

549
00:27:16.000 --> 00:27:18.119
<v Speaker 2>can accept us losing to them when they're good much

550
00:27:18.119 --> 00:27:20.039
<v Speaker 2>more than I can accept losing to them when they

551
00:27:20.079 --> 00:27:22.799
<v Speaker 2>stunk like they did last year. I mean, that's a

552
00:27:22.839 --> 00:27:26.079
<v Speaker 2>lot of mental gymnastics there to try to, I guess,

553
00:27:26.240 --> 00:27:30.559
<v Speaker 2>prepare yourself for a potential loss to the rival again,

554
00:27:31.000 --> 00:27:32.880
<v Speaker 2>and look I get it, Like I mean, I'm not

555
00:27:32.880 --> 00:27:36.640
<v Speaker 2>even thinking about that game right now one because I mean,

556
00:27:37.359 --> 00:27:40.960
<v Speaker 2>if Louisville would have beat Notre Dame, I would still

557
00:27:41.759 --> 00:27:45.039
<v Speaker 2>feel as if Kentucky is going to cause some matchup problems.

558
00:27:45.079 --> 00:27:45.599
<v Speaker 3>Not to say you.

559
00:27:45.559 --> 00:27:47.599
<v Speaker 2>Can't win and you won't win and there's no chance,

560
00:27:47.640 --> 00:27:51.519
<v Speaker 2>but like Kentucky's so big upfront, like even against some

561
00:27:51.680 --> 00:27:55.519
<v Speaker 2>SEC teams, they're defensive front. I mean they look I

562
00:27:55.599 --> 00:27:59.759
<v Speaker 2>mean not to say these guys are all NFL caliber players,

563
00:28:00.400 --> 00:28:02.240
<v Speaker 2>plenty of them are, I'm sure, but like they look

564
00:28:02.319 --> 00:28:05.200
<v Speaker 2>like an NFL team physically on defense, and their defense

565
00:28:05.240 --> 00:28:08.279
<v Speaker 2>is really really good on offense. They made some plays

566
00:28:08.319 --> 00:28:10.119
<v Speaker 2>and they've got some play makers, but clearly they're not

567
00:28:11.039 --> 00:28:14.279
<v Speaker 2>lighting it up this year, and they may not need

568
00:28:14.319 --> 00:28:16.599
<v Speaker 2>to if their defense is that good and their offense

569
00:28:16.640 --> 00:28:19.519
<v Speaker 2>can you know, do just enough like they did against

570
00:28:19.559 --> 00:28:23.119
<v Speaker 2>Ole Miss. But like, I don't believe you, Like you're

571
00:28:23.200 --> 00:28:27.480
<v Speaker 2>lying to yourself and you're lying to me. If you

572
00:28:27.599 --> 00:28:30.799
<v Speaker 2>are the type of fan that's already putting this plan

573
00:28:30.880 --> 00:28:33.119
<v Speaker 2>in motion as far as how you're going to accept

574
00:28:33.279 --> 00:28:36.839
<v Speaker 2>a potential loss, then you probably hate Kentucky. It's clearly

575
00:28:36.880 --> 00:28:41.359
<v Speaker 2>bothering you two months out that you're you're already trying

576
00:28:41.400 --> 00:28:43.599
<v Speaker 2>to find a way to you know, deal with it

577
00:28:43.599 --> 00:28:46.119
<v Speaker 2>if it happens. So that means it would be impossible

578
00:28:46.160 --> 00:28:50.559
<v Speaker 2>for you to want them to win any game. I mean,

579
00:28:50.599 --> 00:28:52.480
<v Speaker 2>I hear what you're saying, because if they are and look,

580
00:28:52.480 --> 00:28:54.000
<v Speaker 2>I'm not pulling for them, I hope they lose every

581
00:28:54.039 --> 00:28:57.559
<v Speaker 2>game they're not going to. But yeah, if you end

582
00:28:57.599 --> 00:28:59.519
<v Speaker 2>up playing them at the end of the year, and

583
00:28:59.599 --> 00:29:05.359
<v Speaker 2>let's they upset Tennessee, lose to Texas and then be

584
00:29:05.519 --> 00:29:08.359
<v Speaker 2>all the other teams they're supposed to beat, they'd be

585
00:29:08.400 --> 00:29:10.720
<v Speaker 2>a pretty highly ranked team and I'm not saying they're

586
00:29:10.720 --> 00:29:12.880
<v Speaker 2>going to do that, because I still think they could

587
00:29:12.880 --> 00:29:15.400
<v Speaker 2>have dud games and get beat by anybody on their

588
00:29:15.400 --> 00:29:19.200
<v Speaker 2>schedule outside of Murray State. So I'm not saying this

589
00:29:19.240 --> 00:29:20.799
<v Speaker 2>is going to happen, but like, if that was the

590
00:29:20.839 --> 00:29:25.839
<v Speaker 2>scenario that would make it to where rivalry is side,

591
00:29:25.880 --> 00:29:27.480
<v Speaker 2>which it is hard to put aside, you would know

592
00:29:27.519 --> 00:29:30.079
<v Speaker 2>you're playing a really good team that like at that

593
00:29:30.119 --> 00:29:32.440
<v Speaker 2>point would have shown that they can beat really good teams,

594
00:29:32.480 --> 00:29:33.880
<v Speaker 2>and like it's going to be a really tough matchup.

595
00:29:34.599 --> 00:29:39.240
<v Speaker 2>So just calm down, try not to think about the

596
00:29:39.319 --> 00:29:43.079
<v Speaker 2>Kentucky game until we get closer to it. I mean,

597
00:29:43.079 --> 00:29:45.000
<v Speaker 2>I'm not here to tell you that I'm overly confident,

598
00:29:45.079 --> 00:29:45.640
<v Speaker 2>but you know.

599
00:29:46.599 --> 00:29:49.079
<v Speaker 5>Here's the outside of that, though, is that if they're

600
00:29:49.119 --> 00:29:51.880
<v Speaker 5>confident coming in, then all you're going to hear going

601
00:29:51.880 --> 00:29:54.440
<v Speaker 5>into that week is how good they are. Whereas last year,

602
00:29:54.480 --> 00:29:56.880
<v Speaker 5>and I know the payoff wasn't there because Louisville didn't win.

603
00:29:57.359 --> 00:29:59.920
<v Speaker 5>They hated their team, as you've said multiple times.

604
00:29:59.599 --> 00:30:02.519
<v Speaker 2>And like called into the show, my show, a Louisville

605
00:30:02.799 --> 00:30:04.720
<v Speaker 2>based show for the most part, to let me know that,

606
00:30:04.839 --> 00:30:07.920
<v Speaker 2>like we don't respect Louisville we don't think they're any

607
00:30:07.920 --> 00:30:10.720
<v Speaker 2>good but we but we suck. Like that wasn't the

608
00:30:10.759 --> 00:30:13.200
<v Speaker 2>word for word call, but like many people kind of

609
00:30:13.240 --> 00:30:15.400
<v Speaker 2>said the same thing. Yeah, you all still think despite

610
00:30:15.440 --> 00:30:17.799
<v Speaker 2>being ten win team, but we're just we're just really bad,

611
00:30:17.839 --> 00:30:20.160
<v Speaker 2>Like I don't So anyways, let's get to a break.

612
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<v Speaker 2>We'll come back on the other side. Talk to doctor

613
00:30:21.680 --> 00:30:25.039
<v Speaker 2>Eric McElroy of pro Reap Physical Therapy. I want to

614
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<v Speaker 2>get his thoughts on this Christian McCaffrey thing. But you're

615
00:30:26.839 --> 00:30:29.559
<v Speaker 2>starting to hear some noise that like maybe he has

616
00:30:29.599 --> 00:30:32.079
<v Speaker 2>finally had an injury that he won't be able to

617
00:30:32.079 --> 00:30:35.119
<v Speaker 2>fully recover from. I have no clue and nobody knows really,

618
00:30:35.119 --> 00:30:36.720
<v Speaker 2>but we'll get his thoughts on it in a lot

619
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<v Speaker 2>more right here on Sports Talk seven ninety. That's right,

620
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<v Speaker 2>it's coffee and company fueled by Thornton's Here on Sports

621
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<v Speaker 2>Talk seven ninety A beautiful Thursday afternoon, and our Thursday

622
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<v Speaker 2>afternoon just got better because we can now welcome in

623
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<v Speaker 2>doctor Eric mccelroy from pro Reap Physical Therapy.

624
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<v Speaker 4>How we doing this afternoon, Doctor.

625
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<v Speaker 6>I'm doing great.

626
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<v Speaker 7>Nick, I'm not sure got any more beautiful. Oh, come on,

627
00:30:58.759 --> 00:31:00.839
<v Speaker 7>but maybe a guy a little better. Hey, you know what, well,

628
00:31:00.960 --> 00:31:03.079
<v Speaker 7>it can't get it can't get more beautiful.

629
00:31:03.079 --> 00:31:05.279
<v Speaker 2>It's a gorgeous I like to gas my guys up.

630
00:31:05.440 --> 00:31:07.039
<v Speaker 2>And you're you're you know, you're a big part of

631
00:31:07.079 --> 00:31:08.599
<v Speaker 2>the show. You have been for for a long time,

632
00:31:08.599 --> 00:31:10.119
<v Speaker 2>so it's always good to bring you in. But you're right,

633
00:31:10.160 --> 00:31:13.599
<v Speaker 2>today's weather is beautiful, warm, warm enough with a nice breeze.

634
00:31:13.599 --> 00:31:16.039
<v Speaker 2>It's it is damn near perfect if you ask me,

635
00:31:16.200 --> 00:31:18.319
<v Speaker 2>So let's get right to it. Big injury in the

636
00:31:18.440 --> 00:31:21.160
<v Speaker 2>NFL that has been probably talked about, maybe more than

637
00:31:21.160 --> 00:31:24.400
<v Speaker 2>any injury so far this season is Christian McCaffrey uh

638
00:31:24.440 --> 00:31:29.400
<v Speaker 2>and he now is dealing with bilateral Achilles tendonitis. Recently,

639
00:31:29.400 --> 00:31:31.680
<v Speaker 2>he made a trip to Germany to get some type

640
00:31:31.680 --> 00:31:34.519
<v Speaker 2>of I guess, you know, get some feedback from some

641
00:31:34.599 --> 00:31:36.880
<v Speaker 2>doctors over there as far as how he can get healthy.

642
00:31:37.480 --> 00:31:38.799
<v Speaker 2>And there's a lot of noise out there. It's just

643
00:31:38.799 --> 00:31:40.880
<v Speaker 2>speculation that, you know, maybe this could maybe be the

644
00:31:40.880 --> 00:31:43.680
<v Speaker 2>injury that he never fully recovers from. Maybe he doesn't

645
00:31:43.680 --> 00:31:47.799
<v Speaker 2>come back this year. But when you hear bilateral Achilles tendonitis,

646
00:31:47.960 --> 00:31:50.240
<v Speaker 2>meaning it's in both of his both of his legs,

647
00:31:50.279 --> 00:31:52.759
<v Speaker 2>I mean I would say that it doesn't look great

648
00:31:52.759 --> 00:31:54.640
<v Speaker 2>for him, but I could be totally wrong.

649
00:31:54.640 --> 00:31:56.480
<v Speaker 6>Oh it doesn't, No, it doesn't.

650
00:31:56.720 --> 00:31:59.319
<v Speaker 7>I'm a little I'll be honest with I mean, I'm

651
00:31:59.359 --> 00:32:01.200
<v Speaker 7>not sure why you get go to Europe unless he's

652
00:32:01.200 --> 00:32:05.279
<v Speaker 7>doing some some experimental procedures over there that they don't

653
00:32:05.279 --> 00:32:08.400
<v Speaker 7>necessarily allow in the United States. I mean, we treat

654
00:32:08.759 --> 00:32:13.200
<v Speaker 7>Achilles tendinopathies ten and is tendinosis, which is more is.

655
00:32:13.119 --> 00:32:15.319
<v Speaker 6>More the chronic version all the time.

656
00:32:16.279 --> 00:32:18.640
<v Speaker 7>And yes, it can be very convenated, especially the more

657
00:32:18.680 --> 00:32:19.720
<v Speaker 7>chronic it gets.

658
00:32:20.079 --> 00:32:21.079
<v Speaker 6>It can be difficult.

659
00:32:21.319 --> 00:32:24.519
<v Speaker 7>Uh, it's also that much more challenging when you're dealing with,

660
00:32:24.960 --> 00:32:27.039
<v Speaker 7>you know, professional athlete at the level that he is,

661
00:32:27.200 --> 00:32:30.799
<v Speaker 7>and both sides, So a lot that goes into that

662
00:32:31.119 --> 00:32:33.319
<v Speaker 7>be interesting to see what all. You know, there's a

663
00:32:33.359 --> 00:32:37.240
<v Speaker 7>lot of background information I would love to know as

664
00:32:37.240 --> 00:32:41.079
<v Speaker 7>to why it's lingering, continuing on how it happened in

665
00:32:41.079 --> 00:32:44.759
<v Speaker 7>the first place. Generally don't see it both sides. Uh,

666
00:32:45.079 --> 00:32:46.960
<v Speaker 7>So you know, I could speculate a lot. There's a

667
00:32:47.000 --> 00:32:48.440
<v Speaker 7>lot of things that would go through my head as

668
00:32:48.480 --> 00:32:51.480
<v Speaker 7>far as when you see something like that come about,

669
00:32:51.599 --> 00:32:54.839
<v Speaker 7>you know, you know what he could be or couldn't

670
00:32:55.119 --> 00:32:57.920
<v Speaker 7>or not doing what he's taken or not taken. Uh,

671
00:32:58.319 --> 00:32:59.960
<v Speaker 7>you know that could contribute to having it on both

672
00:33:00.200 --> 00:33:03.839
<v Speaker 7>sides and it being to the point where it's it's

673
00:33:03.960 --> 00:33:05.640
<v Speaker 7>hard enough to treat that he has to feel like

674
00:33:05.640 --> 00:33:06.039
<v Speaker 7>he has.

675
00:33:05.880 --> 00:33:06.640
<v Speaker 6>To go to Europe.

676
00:33:07.000 --> 00:33:09.640
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, and I think the trip to Europe as well

677
00:33:09.680 --> 00:33:12.440
<v Speaker 2>as you know now hearing that it's in that it's

678
00:33:12.480 --> 00:33:14.480
<v Speaker 2>in that, it's it's it's worse. It's not just one,

679
00:33:14.519 --> 00:33:17.480
<v Speaker 2>it's it's both achilles. I think that that's made people

680
00:33:17.519 --> 00:33:19.279
<v Speaker 2>just think, Okay, this guy's really in a bad way.

681
00:33:19.319 --> 00:33:22.839
<v Speaker 2>And he may be, but you know, I found it

682
00:33:22.920 --> 00:33:24.599
<v Speaker 2>very interesting and I don't have the exact quote in

683
00:33:24.640 --> 00:33:27.119
<v Speaker 2>front of me, but his father, Ed McCaffrey, of course,

684
00:33:27.160 --> 00:33:30.759
<v Speaker 2>is well known in the football world, he came out

685
00:33:30.799 --> 00:33:32.680
<v Speaker 2>and said that he believes. In fact, I found the

686
00:33:32.720 --> 00:33:35.880
<v Speaker 2>quote he said, tendonitis is an overtraining injury, meaning you're

687
00:33:35.920 --> 00:33:39.039
<v Speaker 2>training too hard or doing too mote too much and

688
00:33:39.079 --> 00:33:41.680
<v Speaker 2>it turns into tendonitis. So that was on the Ross

689
00:33:41.680 --> 00:33:43.839
<v Speaker 2>Tucker Football podcast. What do you make of his father,

690
00:33:44.279 --> 00:33:46.160
<v Speaker 2>you know, maybe not saying hey, it's all my son's fault.

691
00:33:46.160 --> 00:33:48.319
<v Speaker 2>Don't have sympathy for him, but saying, hey, this is

692
00:33:48.359 --> 00:33:51.440
<v Speaker 2>something he got from overtraining. He's obviously been injured before

693
00:33:51.759 --> 00:33:55.160
<v Speaker 2>and he's miraculously always gotten back to a really good

694
00:33:55.160 --> 00:33:58.920
<v Speaker 2>elite player with some big time injuries that have happened.

695
00:33:58.960 --> 00:34:01.279
<v Speaker 2>And also he's an a position that guys just kind

696
00:34:01.279 --> 00:34:02.920
<v Speaker 2>of fall off the clip when they get to his age.

697
00:34:03.000 --> 00:34:05.319
<v Speaker 2>So you know, I just curious feedback when you hear that.

698
00:34:05.480 --> 00:34:08.239
<v Speaker 2>You know, some people, you know, his father even thinks

699
00:34:08.280 --> 00:34:10.920
<v Speaker 2>that it's that overtraining could have been a big factor here.

700
00:34:11.920 --> 00:34:14.480
<v Speaker 7>Well, it absolutely can be. And most of the time

701
00:34:14.519 --> 00:34:16.559
<v Speaker 7>it is overtrained for sure. I mean that that is

702
00:34:16.679 --> 00:34:17.840
<v Speaker 7>one hundred percent accurate.

703
00:34:17.880 --> 00:34:18.199
<v Speaker 6>It's not.

704
00:34:18.559 --> 00:34:21.280
<v Speaker 7>Sometimes it's trying to train too hard too soon for

705
00:34:21.360 --> 00:34:24.719
<v Speaker 7>some people, so their body is not prepared for the

706
00:34:24.840 --> 00:34:27.039
<v Speaker 7>forces that they're placing upon it, and that'll create an

707
00:34:27.079 --> 00:34:28.320
<v Speaker 7>iis tenonitis.

708
00:34:28.480 --> 00:34:33.639
<v Speaker 6>So it's definitely overtraining. Most most tendonitises are overuse, you know.

709
00:34:34.360 --> 00:34:36.599
<v Speaker 6>But he's a pro athlete with all the resources in

710
00:34:36.639 --> 00:34:37.199
<v Speaker 6>the world, the.

711
00:34:37.199 --> 00:34:41.400
<v Speaker 7>Best you know, medical staff, rehab staff, you know injured

712
00:34:41.559 --> 00:34:44.840
<v Speaker 7>you know, prevention, nutrition, everything you could possibly imagine.

713
00:34:45.320 --> 00:34:47.360
<v Speaker 6>So I don't love that as the reason.

714
00:34:47.400 --> 00:34:49.760
<v Speaker 7>I mean, it absolutely is but you know, he should

715
00:34:49.800 --> 00:34:54.119
<v Speaker 7>be getting he's likely getting treatment anytime he wants around

716
00:34:54.159 --> 00:34:57.440
<v Speaker 7>the clock that while he's training, should be able to

717
00:34:57.440 --> 00:34:57.960
<v Speaker 7>mitigate that.

718
00:34:58.599 --> 00:34:58.760
<v Speaker 1>You know.

719
00:34:58.800 --> 00:35:01.239
<v Speaker 6>It's it's one thing if you're an amateur, you don't have.

720
00:35:01.199 --> 00:35:04.480
<v Speaker 7>The resources and the means or the you know, education

721
00:35:04.679 --> 00:35:06.159
<v Speaker 7>to help guide you.

722
00:35:06.199 --> 00:35:07.400
<v Speaker 6>But he has that.

723
00:35:07.519 --> 00:35:09.559
<v Speaker 7>Now, whether he listens to him or tries to do

724
00:35:09.559 --> 00:35:12.159
<v Speaker 7>it on his own, that's a whole other animal. Also,

725
00:35:12.840 --> 00:35:14.440
<v Speaker 7>you know, it makes me just think, and I don't

726
00:35:14.440 --> 00:35:17.000
<v Speaker 7>want to start the whole thing on this show, but

727
00:35:17.119 --> 00:35:19.239
<v Speaker 7>you know, what else could he be doing or taking

728
00:35:19.280 --> 00:35:23.159
<v Speaker 7>that to contribute to a higher risk of an achilles

729
00:35:23.159 --> 00:35:27.280
<v Speaker 7>cinonitis where his tenons are more likely to have problems,

730
00:35:28.199 --> 00:35:30.199
<v Speaker 7>you know, And it wouldn't be out of the realm

731
00:35:30.239 --> 00:35:33.960
<v Speaker 7>of possibilities and athletics as we all know. So you know,

732
00:35:34.159 --> 00:35:36.119
<v Speaker 7>just those are things that I would start thinking about.

733
00:35:36.119 --> 00:35:39.079
<v Speaker 7>Given the circumstances and given the resources that he has.

734
00:35:39.679 --> 00:35:41.599
<v Speaker 7>Those are just red flags for me. But he's right,

735
00:35:41.639 --> 00:35:45.519
<v Speaker 7>I mean, it is an overtraining issue. But again, if

736
00:35:45.519 --> 00:35:47.760
<v Speaker 7>you're at this level and at the level player he is,

737
00:35:48.000 --> 00:35:50.119
<v Speaker 7>you ought to know how to help manage that or

738
00:35:50.159 --> 00:35:51.039
<v Speaker 7>have help managing that.

739
00:35:51.159 --> 00:35:55.159
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, fun balance right all the time, right, absolutely sticking.

740
00:35:54.840 --> 00:35:55.679
<v Speaker 4>With the NFL too.

741
00:35:55.719 --> 00:35:58.119
<v Speaker 2>Tuga below is probably the other NFL player who has

742
00:35:58.159 --> 00:36:01.199
<v Speaker 2>been discussed more than anybody when it comes to injuries,

743
00:36:01.239 --> 00:36:04.599
<v Speaker 2>and it's because of the fourth documented concussion that he

744
00:36:04.719 --> 00:36:08.440
<v Speaker 2>that he suffered earlier this year September twelfth. It's been

745
00:36:08.480 --> 00:36:11.920
<v Speaker 2>reported that he is now free of concussion symptoms. He

746
00:36:11.960 --> 00:36:15.760
<v Speaker 2>has met with neurologists and he's not received any feedback

747
00:36:15.800 --> 00:36:18.880
<v Speaker 2>that has dissuaded him from continuing to play football. That

748
00:36:18.920 --> 00:36:21.239
<v Speaker 2>was a big topic for a few days after that happened, like, hey,

749
00:36:21.239 --> 00:36:24.119
<v Speaker 2>should he still be out there playing despite you know,

750
00:36:24.159 --> 00:36:26.480
<v Speaker 2>having this, you know, because he's had these many concussions,

751
00:36:26.480 --> 00:36:28.840
<v Speaker 2>and I think he's he's he's gonna want to keep

752
00:36:28.840 --> 00:36:31.239
<v Speaker 2>playing until somebody tells him, hey, you probably shouldn't. It

753
00:36:31.239 --> 00:36:33.800
<v Speaker 2>sounds like I guess that hasn't happened just yet. But

754
00:36:34.039 --> 00:36:36.760
<v Speaker 2>the Dolphins have been a mess without him. His value.

755
00:36:37.039 --> 00:36:38.840
<v Speaker 2>I think it's pretty evident when he plays, but man,

756
00:36:38.880 --> 00:36:41.400
<v Speaker 2>it really stands out when they don't have him. I mean,

757
00:36:42.039 --> 00:36:44.000
<v Speaker 2>and I'm asking you just to guess and speculate here,

758
00:36:44.000 --> 00:36:46.360
<v Speaker 2>and sometimes I hate doing that, but getting him back

759
00:36:46.360 --> 00:36:49.519
<v Speaker 2>out there would have sounded crazy a few weeks ago,

760
00:36:49.639 --> 00:36:51.480
<v Speaker 2>But is it you know, I mean, I mean, if

761
00:36:51.519 --> 00:36:53.719
<v Speaker 2>he gets the green light, I mean, he could get

762
00:36:53.760 --> 00:36:55.880
<v Speaker 2>a concussion on any play, just like anybody else can.

763
00:36:55.960 --> 00:36:58.280
<v Speaker 2>But like I guess it's you know, maybe it's not

764
00:36:58.280 --> 00:36:59.920
<v Speaker 2>crazy that he comes back this year at some point.

765
00:37:02.079 --> 00:37:02.920
<v Speaker 6>Yeah, you know, I don't.

766
00:37:03.039 --> 00:37:05.800
<v Speaker 7>And you remember having a doctor Seifert on here, uh,

767
00:37:06.039 --> 00:37:09.199
<v Speaker 7>and he on the show, and uh, he's one of

768
00:37:09.199 --> 00:37:10.599
<v Speaker 7>the best here in Louisville, and he's one of the

769
00:37:10.599 --> 00:37:11.159
<v Speaker 7>best in our.

770
00:37:11.039 --> 00:37:13.599
<v Speaker 6>Region when it comes to concussions. And he said many

771
00:37:13.639 --> 00:37:16.119
<v Speaker 6>times that you can have one concussion and you should

772
00:37:16.159 --> 00:37:18.760
<v Speaker 6>end your career, and you should you could have ten concussions. Fine,

773
00:37:18.800 --> 00:37:20.760
<v Speaker 6>you know, it's like like a lot of different injuries.

774
00:37:21.320 --> 00:37:24.440
<v Speaker 7>But Nick, I don't know, Like the way his you know,

775
00:37:24.480 --> 00:37:27.320
<v Speaker 7>the look on his concussions, the posturing and all those

776
00:37:27.400 --> 00:37:29.719
<v Speaker 7>kind of things that he gets every time is a

777
00:37:29.760 --> 00:37:30.719
<v Speaker 7>huge concern for me.

778
00:37:31.800 --> 00:37:33.679
<v Speaker 6>You know, right the medical.

779
00:37:33.400 --> 00:37:36.199
<v Speaker 7>Staff is going to tell you know, I kind of

780
00:37:36.239 --> 00:37:38.360
<v Speaker 7>approach it this way too, to be honest, is that

781
00:37:38.440 --> 00:37:39.880
<v Speaker 7>these guys are professionals.

782
00:37:40.320 --> 00:37:41.639
<v Speaker 6>He's an adult, he's a grown man.

783
00:37:41.679 --> 00:37:44.199
<v Speaker 7>He knows the risk and if he is capable and

784
00:37:44.239 --> 00:37:46.719
<v Speaker 7>able to come back based on all the testing. And

785
00:37:46.760 --> 00:37:49.679
<v Speaker 7>that's what he chooses to do. It's on him and

786
00:37:50.039 --> 00:37:52.960
<v Speaker 7>we can't you know, I hate to say it this way,

787
00:37:53.000 --> 00:37:55.719
<v Speaker 7>but you can't. So sorry for him now if I'm

788
00:37:55.760 --> 00:37:58.880
<v Speaker 7>his family, you know, that's a different conversation. You know,

789
00:37:58.960 --> 00:38:01.800
<v Speaker 7>it's it's sometimes you got to step in and try

790
00:38:01.800 --> 00:38:04.400
<v Speaker 7>to hope that you can give the advice or help

791
00:38:04.440 --> 00:38:07.559
<v Speaker 7>support somebody to think through something, you know.

792
00:38:07.519 --> 00:38:10.480
<v Speaker 6>And make better decisions. You know, he's set for life, uh, and.

793
00:38:10.440 --> 00:38:11.960
<v Speaker 7>He's got a long life to live and you would

794
00:38:11.960 --> 00:38:15.480
<v Speaker 7>hate to see him struggle with that later on in life.

795
00:38:16.719 --> 00:38:18.639
<v Speaker 7>And but I think that's those are things that he

796
00:38:18.679 --> 00:38:21.440
<v Speaker 7>needs to talk. You know, hopefully his family can step

797
00:38:21.480 --> 00:38:23.639
<v Speaker 7>in and really make him think twice about what he's doing.

798
00:38:25.400 --> 00:38:28.440
<v Speaker 7>So but you know, those are two different conversations, uh,

799
00:38:28.480 --> 00:38:31.000
<v Speaker 7>you know, the doctor's conversation and the and the rehab

800
00:38:31.039 --> 00:38:33.920
<v Speaker 7>staff and everybody just basically like it is what it is.

801
00:38:33.920 --> 00:38:35.719
<v Speaker 7>You're going to try to be as objective as you

802
00:38:35.760 --> 00:38:38.039
<v Speaker 7>possibly can. And and we do that all the time

803
00:38:38.079 --> 00:38:40.519
<v Speaker 7>and give people the you know what, you know what

804
00:38:40.559 --> 00:38:41.320
<v Speaker 7>the risk is.

805
00:38:41.360 --> 00:38:43.440
<v Speaker 6>And you know they have to understand that risk.

806
00:38:43.280 --> 00:38:46.000
<v Speaker 7>And then give them the best advice we can give them,

807
00:38:46.000 --> 00:38:47.760
<v Speaker 7>and then they can make the choice for themselves.

808
00:38:48.239 --> 00:38:50.880
<v Speaker 2>Doctor Ereg McElroy, Proriat Physical Therapy is our guest joining

809
00:38:50.920 --> 00:38:54.159
<v Speaker 2>us here on Sports Talk seven ninety when it comes

810
00:38:54.159 --> 00:38:56.320
<v Speaker 2>to college football couple of injuries, I wanted to get

811
00:38:56.360 --> 00:38:59.039
<v Speaker 2>your thoughts on. Kentucky had a running back transfer in

812
00:38:59.079 --> 00:39:01.719
<v Speaker 2>from Ohio State and Chip train him, and he broke

813
00:39:01.760 --> 00:39:04.119
<v Speaker 2>his hand as soon as their camp started, and the

814
00:39:04.159 --> 00:39:06.800
<v Speaker 2>expectation was that he'd be he'd be out for you know,

815
00:39:06.840 --> 00:39:09.960
<v Speaker 2>the first few games maybe, and then last week was

816
00:39:10.480 --> 00:39:14.079
<v Speaker 2>cleared to return, then it was doubtful, then he was

817
00:39:14.119 --> 00:39:16.800
<v Speaker 2>listed as out, and now there's talk that he could

818
00:39:16.840 --> 00:39:19.960
<v Speaker 2>potentially have a procedure done that might shelf him for

819
00:39:19.960 --> 00:39:23.320
<v Speaker 2>the rest of the year. Again, I mean, you're going

820
00:39:23.320 --> 00:39:25.239
<v Speaker 2>in blind here as far as the situation, but I

821
00:39:25.239 --> 00:39:27.639
<v Speaker 2>mean a broken hand would usually be something that like

822
00:39:27.679 --> 00:39:29.480
<v Speaker 2>if you I mean again, maybe I'm way off here,

823
00:39:29.480 --> 00:39:31.039
<v Speaker 2>but I feel like you would have known initially if

824
00:39:31.039 --> 00:39:32.760
<v Speaker 2>you needed to have some kind of procedure right or

825
00:39:32.760 --> 00:39:35.320
<v Speaker 2>maybe throughout the healing process you learned that it's not

826
00:39:35.440 --> 00:39:36.800
<v Speaker 2>going the way that you thought and.

827
00:39:36.760 --> 00:39:39.039
<v Speaker 4>You need to get operated on it. Just that seemed

828
00:39:39.079 --> 00:39:39.920
<v Speaker 4>very very puzzling.

829
00:39:41.079 --> 00:39:42.639
<v Speaker 7>It is puzzling to me, and it's you know, I

830
00:39:42.679 --> 00:39:45.599
<v Speaker 7>mean that's my job is to speculate, you know, right

831
00:39:45.679 --> 00:39:47.599
<v Speaker 7>when we have in these conversations. So I love it,

832
00:39:47.719 --> 00:39:50.039
<v Speaker 7>but you know, to me, what it tells me is

833
00:39:50.039 --> 00:39:54.119
<v Speaker 7>there there is something showing up on the bone. It's

834
00:39:54.159 --> 00:39:57.039
<v Speaker 7>just not that doesn't look good, whatever that is. And

835
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<v Speaker 7>I know that seems like pretty simple, but it's not

836
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<v Speaker 7>like sometimes it's all to pick up on that or

837
00:40:01.719 --> 00:40:03.960
<v Speaker 7>you're seeing where it is at that moment in time,

838
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<v Speaker 7>thinking all right, in two weeks that should fill in

839
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<v Speaker 7>really good. He should be ready to go, right, you're

840
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<v Speaker 7>projecting forward well on those follow ups, it may not.

841
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<v Speaker 7>There's things called malunions where the bone looks like it's

842
00:40:15.159 --> 00:40:17.599
<v Speaker 7>going to start to close and it doesn't. And it

843
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<v Speaker 7>could be that from the time they checked, you know,

844
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<v Speaker 7>two weeks ago till now it didn't progress. That's a

845
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<v Speaker 7>different animal. Now it's like, oh no, we may need

846
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<v Speaker 7>to go in and do something to help accelerate that

847
00:40:29.000 --> 00:40:31.039
<v Speaker 7>healing of that bone because it's not healing like we

848
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<v Speaker 7>thought it was two weeks ago.

849
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<v Speaker 6>So that's what I would where I would go, and

850
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<v Speaker 6>then that happens.

851
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<v Speaker 7>Unfortunately, especially in certain areas of the body and certain bones,

852
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<v Speaker 7>and it could be something else. Hopefully it's not some

853
00:40:43.480 --> 00:40:46.199
<v Speaker 7>kind of infection that's formed or something like that, or

854
00:40:46.239 --> 00:40:49.039
<v Speaker 7>some reaction to any kind of hardware that was put in,

855
00:40:49.280 --> 00:40:53.000
<v Speaker 7>which again, all of those things could be a possibility.

856
00:40:53.480 --> 00:40:55.559
<v Speaker 7>That may have not been the case. Two weeks ago.

857
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<v Speaker 7>It looked like he was, you know, progressing as they

858
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<v Speaker 7>would expect and would be able to return.

859
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<v Speaker 2>So Quincy Riley is one of Louisville's best defensive backs.

860
00:41:04.239 --> 00:41:07.760
<v Speaker 2>He was listed as a game time decision was for

861
00:41:07.880 --> 00:41:09.920
<v Speaker 2>the Notre Dame game, and then as we got to

862
00:41:09.960 --> 00:41:12.559
<v Speaker 2>game day listed as doubtful, did not play, And we

863
00:41:12.559 --> 00:41:13.960
<v Speaker 2>really don't know a whole lot about it. Not to

864
00:41:14.000 --> 00:41:15.840
<v Speaker 2>say that we're entitled to it, but he's so important

865
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<v Speaker 2>to Louisville. Jeff browm'son pretty quiet as far as the

866
00:41:18.159 --> 00:41:21.800
<v Speaker 2>actual injury. I think some reports are that it's it's

867
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<v Speaker 2>the right foot or ankle, and I think he's still

868
00:41:24.480 --> 00:41:26.400
<v Speaker 2>kind of, you know, his status kind of remains up

869
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<v Speaker 2>in the air. I mean, he was out there warming

870
00:41:29.480 --> 00:41:31.360
<v Speaker 2>up before the game, not sure if it was because

871
00:41:31.360 --> 00:41:32.639
<v Speaker 2>he was going to maybe see if he could give

872
00:41:32.639 --> 00:41:34.679
<v Speaker 2>it a go. If that's the case, I'd say that's encouraging.

873
00:41:34.719 --> 00:41:37.400
<v Speaker 2>But everybody's asking what the hell's going on with Quincy Riley,

874
00:41:37.400 --> 00:41:40.000
<v Speaker 2>and I don't think any of us know, No.

875
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<v Speaker 7>We don't, and then they're pretty hush hush about it,

876
00:41:42.000 --> 00:41:44.400
<v Speaker 7>and uh, you know, and that's okay, And I do

877
00:41:44.519 --> 00:41:48.079
<v Speaker 7>think that it's you know, all the signs are positive.

878
00:41:48.679 --> 00:41:50.960
<v Speaker 7>He's out warming up before games anytime you listen to

879
00:41:51.079 --> 00:41:53.079
<v Speaker 7>his game time decision. Unless they had some kind of

880
00:41:53.079 --> 00:41:56.960
<v Speaker 7>setback to something, that would be very unfortunate, especially for him. Uh,

881
00:41:57.280 --> 00:41:59.960
<v Speaker 7>it's usually you know, at this point, he's day to day.

882
00:42:00.760 --> 00:42:03.440
<v Speaker 7>I suspect given what we saw.

883
00:42:03.239 --> 00:42:05.400
<v Speaker 6>And giving him warming up and giving him and me at.

884
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<v Speaker 7>Least being in the conversation of playing, I would be

885
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<v Speaker 7>shocked if they don't play him. You know, maybe they'll

886
00:42:11.039 --> 00:42:14.719
<v Speaker 7>kind of go into with some expectations that you know,

887
00:42:14.920 --> 00:42:17.519
<v Speaker 7>depending on how the game starts will depend on how

888
00:42:17.559 --> 00:42:20.199
<v Speaker 7>they start to utilize him, so you know it all

889
00:42:20.559 --> 00:42:22.320
<v Speaker 7>they may, you know, because you don't want to push

890
00:42:22.320 --> 00:42:24.639
<v Speaker 7>somebody in too soon if if you know, it could

891
00:42:24.719 --> 00:42:27.239
<v Speaker 7>risk him being out longer down the road. So you know,

892
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<v Speaker 7>I think that that's probably where they are. I have

893
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<v Speaker 7>a feeling that I'd be shocked if he doesn't play

894
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<v Speaker 7>this weekend, just given the fact that he was have

895
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<v Speaker 7>a decision and even listed as doubtful. Yeah, you know,

896
00:42:36.679 --> 00:42:40.519
<v Speaker 7>which is different than out, so you know the circumstances

897
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<v Speaker 7>and playing the game they were in the game.

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<v Speaker 6>You know.

899
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<v Speaker 7>It's it's that again, the risk reward, given where we

900
00:42:46.079 --> 00:42:49.239
<v Speaker 7>are in the season, may not be big enough to them.

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<v Speaker 2>Eric, I appreciate you making time for us here on

902
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<v Speaker 2>a beautiful Thursday afternoon. Go enjoy this beautiful weather, have

903
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<v Speaker 2>a good weekend, and we will talk to you soon.

904
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<v Speaker 6>My friend absolutely do the same. Nick A good one.

905
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<v Speaker 4>Take care.

906
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<v Speaker 2>That's doctor Eric McElroy, pro Rea physical therapy quick break.

907
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<v Speaker 2>We got the five o'clock hour coming up here on

908
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<v Speaker 2>the other side. Any rare back to back guest segments, right,

909
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<v Speaker 2>We don't do that very often, but you know when

910
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<v Speaker 2>we do, we do it big. Eric McElroy. Then Kent

911
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<v Speaker 2>Spencer from Whas You kidding Me? Stick around right here

912
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<v Speaker 2>on Sports Talk seven ninety