Speaker 1: It's time for Coffee and company, fueled by Thornton's on
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Speaker 2: This may be something that's been out there for a
Speaker 2: couple of days and I just missed it, but it
Speaker 2: just now came across my timeline here that it'll be
Speaker 2: Marshawn Lynch being the celebrity guest picker for college game
Speaker 2: Day as game Day will be at Cal as they
Speaker 2: host Miami, which is just I mean, if you'd have
Speaker 2: told me that Cal would be warranting a trip from
Speaker 2: the college Game Day crew, I wouldn't believe you. Now,
Speaker 2: obviously Miami being there is a big factor, but Cal's
Speaker 2: gotten off to a much better start than really anybody
Speaker 2: would have expected. They did give Florida State their only win,
Speaker 2: which is wildly now actually a bad look for them.
Speaker 2: But they beat Auburn at Auburn, which even if Auburn's
Speaker 2: down like that's not something anybody would have expected. And
Speaker 2: they've become like the star of social media so far
Speaker 2: this college football season, and it's it's, you know, four
Speaker 2: or five different accounts that have created all these memes
Speaker 2: and whatnot. And somebody actually asked me this, I think
Speaker 2: it might have been last week on the text line, Nick,
Speaker 2: can you explain what I'm missing with the Cal fan
Speaker 2: base and why everybody loves them on Twitter? And maybe like,
Speaker 2: maybe you don't get what they're doing as far as
Speaker 2: the humor in it. And I'm not gonna act like
Speaker 2: it's you know, gut busting laughter, but self deprecation always plays,
Speaker 2: at least it does for me. And Cal is leaning
Speaker 2: into what you know is a stereotype about him and
Speaker 2: having fun with it.
Speaker 3: Right.
Speaker 2: Cal Berkeley is known to be a very woke school,
Speaker 2: very left leaning, very liberal liberal and you know, apparently
Speaker 2: Florida State fans when they were talking about not wanting
Speaker 2: Cal in the league. I don't have a clue of
Speaker 2: Florida State's fan base is mostly Democratic or Republican.
Speaker 4: I don't care, but clearly they have some.
Speaker 2: Republican fans who, you know, when talking about Cal, instead
Speaker 2: of just you know, mentioning that they are a subpar
Speaker 2: program that doesn't belong in the ACC in the same
Speaker 2: league with the elite, legendary Florida State program, they brought
Speaker 2: up the fact that they're all woke and they're tree
Speaker 2: huggers and whatnot, and all they did for the week
Speaker 2: of the Florida State game. That's when it really took off,
Speaker 2: is that they were creating all these AI artificial artificial
Speaker 2: intelligence graphics of their mascot, which I don't know the
Speaker 2: mascot's name, Oski Oscy Oscy the Bear, I.
Speaker 4: Think is the name.
Speaker 2: And they just did all these different either Photoshop or
Speaker 2: AI to create all of these and you'd have to
Speaker 2: go see it forr tou really makes sense. But like
Speaker 2: a bunch of LGBTQ things like making fun of Florida State,
Speaker 2: it was funny, but like it's one of those things
Speaker 2: that you kind of you got to be kind of
Speaker 2: in the weeds of Twitter to understand the humor. However,
Speaker 2: I think what's made them funny is that like they're
Speaker 2: aware of how people perceive them. They're aware that like
Speaker 2: they're not a great football program, and yet they're having
Speaker 2: more success than anybody would have thought, and they're rubbing
Speaker 2: it in people's faces, especially Florida State. Like that's when
Speaker 2: it really took off. But now they're playing Miami and uh,
Speaker 2: Woke versus Coke has been referenced a bunch this week
Speaker 2: because obviously, you know, if you're going to think of
Speaker 2: what city and you know, take away just the Miami
Speaker 2: football program. If you're gonna think of what city in
Speaker 2: America might have more cocaine than any others, Miami would
Speaker 2: probably be in the list. I don't know if there's
Speaker 2: been any stories that I've missed out on where cocaine
Speaker 2: is involved in the Miami football program. But either way,
Speaker 2: Woke versus Coke, I thought that was I thought that's great. Yeah,
Speaker 2: it's good stuff. And you know, I don't think that
Speaker 2: they're going to be a great program moving forward in football.
Speaker 2: And I would say of the schools that you added,
Speaker 2: Cal is easily the one that you know has the
Speaker 2: least relevance in you know, the last ten to fifteen years.
Speaker 2: I mean, Stanford's been down for a little while, but
Speaker 2: let's be real, when David Shaw was there and when
Speaker 2: Harball was there, they were good. So you know, this year,
Speaker 2: I mean it's Cal. What is Cal's record? So right
Speaker 2: now they're sitting at three and one and their wins
Speaker 2: are against San Diego State, which was a blowout that
Speaker 2: actually was a good win for them, and then they
Speaker 2: beat Auburn, and then they beat UC Davis and then
Speaker 2: lost nine to fourteen to Florida State, and Miami is
Speaker 2: their next opponent, so we'll see, we'll see how that
Speaker 2: one plays out. I don't like their chances against Miami,
Speaker 2: but maybe, you know, maybe I mean Miami I think
Speaker 2: is still in the driver's seat to win this league
Speaker 2: because I just think they look like the best team
Speaker 2: right now. But it was nice to see them look
Speaker 2: very vulnerable in that game against Virginia Tech, a game
Speaker 2: that you know, it wasn't for that questionable call at
Speaker 2: the end of the game, it might not have won.
Speaker 2: And if Miami slips up before you get they get
Speaker 2: to Louisville, not saying they will, in fact on you
Speaker 2: know who they play after Heck, they might be on
Speaker 2: a byway before they come to Louisville. But like you
Speaker 2: know that that might take a little bit away from
Speaker 2: the value there, But at this point it doesn't matter.
Speaker 2: You want you want teams, like you know, you want
Speaker 2: teams that are going to be in that top tier
Speaker 2: competing with you.
Speaker 4: Hopefully Louisville can be in that tier as well.
Speaker 2: That looks like you've got a chance to find yourself
Speaker 2: in the top two, which of course gets you a
Speaker 2: chance in the championship and if you win that, you're
Speaker 2: in the playoffs. So, you know, I think it used
Speaker 2: to be, well, you you want your league to do
Speaker 2: really well because you want, you know, you want your
Speaker 2: wins to to look like they've got, you know, pretty
Speaker 2: good value. And I guess you still want that to
Speaker 2: an extent, but really it doesn't matter now. I mean
Speaker 2: you could you should root. I mean again, when the
Speaker 2: ACC teams play each other, you know, one of the
Speaker 2: one of the teams in the league is gonna get
Speaker 2: a win. But like, I think we can kind of
Speaker 2: move on from when it comes to like conference play. Like,
Speaker 2: if you know there's a team that's got a shot
Speaker 2: to be in that top tier, you root for the bad.
Speaker 2: You know, you root for the upset happen. And maybe
Speaker 2: you all maybe you always have done that, but I'm
Speaker 2: somebody that you know, like for example, it didn't really
Speaker 2: matter and it wasn't really a big talking point at
Speaker 2: that at that point, but you know, one of the
Speaker 2: first things that somebody said whenever Notre Dame lost to
Speaker 2: we were doing a postgame show on the air, whenever
Speaker 2: Notre Dame lost in Northern Illinois, and you know, one
Speaker 2: of the first comments we got during the show is
Speaker 2: that you know, now that's going to make that win
Speaker 2: have a little less value there if Louisville can pull
Speaker 2: off the wind. So yeah, it looks like right now
Speaker 2: Miami will uh, Miami will play let's see. Yeah, they've
Speaker 2: got a they've got a week off before before they
Speaker 2: play Louisville, so they'll be well rested when they come
Speaker 2: into Cardinal Stadium on October nineteenth. All Right, it's coffee
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Speaker 3: All right, So.
Speaker 2: This text sextually came in yesterday, but I highlighted it
Speaker 2: to remember to go back because it's it's a fair question,
Speaker 2: but says Nick, I totally agree with you when it
Speaker 2: comes to your thoughts on recruiting high school freshmen. It's
Speaker 2: not as critical as it once was with the transfer portal.
Speaker 2: But I know Kelsey and his staff are actively recruiting
Speaker 2: a lot of guys in the twenty twenty five class
Speaker 2: and the twenty twenty five class, and it seems really
Speaker 2: really quiet right now. Do you still think they'll end
Speaker 2: up getting some really good freshmen. I hope they will,
Speaker 2: but I won't fake outrage or great concern if they
Speaker 2: end up only maybe getting a couple of freshmen and
Speaker 2: maybe it's not you know I wanted to get. I mean, look, look,
Speaker 2: they're still in the mix for some really good players.
Speaker 2: But if you follow recruiting or you follow Trully Donovan,
Speaker 2: you know it's not quite clear if Losville is the
Speaker 2: leader on any of those big names. So here's one
Speaker 2: thing that both Pat Kelsey and Mark Pope are going
Speaker 2: to have to show, and it's called proof of concept.
Speaker 2: These guys have a lot to sell where they are.
Speaker 2: Pat Kelsey obviously is leading a program that has a
Speaker 2: lot of NIEL money. You know, Louisville has a big
Speaker 2: fan base. You play at an NBA arena. I know
Speaker 2: kids don't seem to really care about tradition anymore, and
Speaker 2: I get it, But when it comes to the things
Speaker 2: that kids really do care about money. I mean, that's
Speaker 2: part of it playing style, and Pat Kelsey can show
Speaker 2: them how he's coached his teams and how he could
Speaker 2: really you know, utilize the strengths of certain players. And
Speaker 2: Louisville despite being really bad lately, and it's been a
Speaker 2: long time since Louisville was nationally relevant in hoops to
Speaker 2: you know, these guys were probably really really young kids
Speaker 2: when that happened. But you can know that Louisville has
Speaker 2: been down lately. But if you're a high school basketball
Speaker 2: recruit at at a high level, like you know, Louisville's
Speaker 2: one of the top ten programs of all time, I
Speaker 2: would assume I mean, maybe I'm wrong, but like I
Speaker 2: think if you just if you're a sixteen seventeen year
Speaker 2: old kid and you follow college basketball a little bit
Speaker 2: because you know you're gonna play college hoops, I feel
Speaker 2: like you would have some familiarity with like who the
Speaker 2: all time great programs are. And Louisville certainly not in
Speaker 2: that top tier, but they're in the second tier, right
Speaker 2: outside the top tier when it comes to like overall accomplishments. Historically,
Speaker 2: now that doesn't really matter when it comes to like, well,
Speaker 2: I'm gonna go to Louisville because they won a title
Speaker 2: in the last eleven years, but the brand still matters,
Speaker 2: and despite how bad they've been lately, they're you know,
Speaker 2: it'll take a long time for Louisville basketball to turn
Speaker 2: into you know, they'd have to be really really bad
Speaker 2: for a really really long time to turn into you know,
Speaker 2: DePaul or Houston or something like that. By the way,
Speaker 2: Houston's great right now, but they went through that, right
Speaker 2: They went titles long, long ago, and then they seemingly
Speaker 2: didn't exist for a while. So Georgetown's another example. So
Speaker 2: you know what I'm getting at is like, you've got
Speaker 2: a lot to sell. But none of these coaches, I mean,
Speaker 2: neither of these coaches, Pack Hill's or Mark Pope. They
Speaker 2: haven't actually shown that they're gonna be good here. And
Speaker 2: I think fans on both sides are justified in believing
Speaker 2: that both of these coaches could have a lot of success,
Speaker 2: and these may be very lengthy tenures that we all
Speaker 2: look back on many many many years from now and say, wow,
Speaker 2: that was a lot of fun. Josh Hurb made the
Speaker 2: right hire, got the right guy. Mitch Barnhardt Man, he
Speaker 2: really he knew what he was doing, which will if
Speaker 2: that If that is the case, it'll be a good
Speaker 2: story because I'll remember the reaction from both fan bases
Speaker 2: whenever you found out that those were going to be
Speaker 2: the guys myself included. By the way, So if you're
Speaker 2: a kid and you're you got options to go to
Speaker 2: relatively similar schools, even if you really like Pope, even
Speaker 2: if you really like Pat Kelsey, if you if you've
Speaker 2: got a similar role, similar nil money, similar program. But
Speaker 2: the coach that's at these other program they've made a
Speaker 2: final four, maybe multiple final fours, maybe they've won a title.
Speaker 2: Like that's going to give you an edge over Pat
Speaker 2: Kelsey and Mark Pope because again proof of concept. They've
Speaker 2: got to be able to show recruits, Hey, this is
Speaker 2: what I'm doing at Louisville. Watch us the last few years.
Speaker 2: We got a lot of momentum. You could be somebody
Speaker 2: that could come in and help us in a major way.
Speaker 2: So I'm not making excuses, it's just a fact. Like
Speaker 2: if I was a parent of a kid who's being recruited,
Speaker 2: and I love Pat Kelsey and I really liked his energy,
Speaker 2: liked what he wanted to do, with my son as
Speaker 2: far as how he wanted to utilize him, but I
Speaker 2: knew that he'd never coached a game yet, and I've
Speaker 2: got to make a decision. My kid's got to make
Speaker 2: a decision, you know, in November or you know, January,
Speaker 2: whatever it is. Like if it's just one year, like
Speaker 2: you know, you're a disadvantage. It's nobody's fault. It's just
Speaker 2: you've never coached at these big schools and nobody truly
Speaker 2: knows how successful you're going to be, and that matters
Speaker 2: when kids make decisions. So proof of concept, I think,
Speaker 2: you know, the fact they've already got Connie russ Is
Speaker 2: is impressive considering the fact that he's one of the
Speaker 2: higher ranked freshmen to ever commit here and he chose
Speaker 2: Pat Kelsey knowing he had other options. And you know
Speaker 2: that's before Pat ever coached a game here. So and look,
Speaker 2: I'm not at all surprised that I've already got a
Speaker 2: few texts coming in on the text line, the Ellen
Speaker 2: and Federal Credit Union text line that you know, what
Speaker 2: are you talking about, Mark Poh, He's already got He's
Speaker 2: already got to league guys he does, and that's you know,
Speaker 2: that's that's great for him, and I'm not saying that
Speaker 2: like he doesn't deserve major credit for Jasper Johnson and
Speaker 2: Malachi Mareno because you know, he recruited him and it
Speaker 2: didn't look good with I think Malaca Moreno was always
Speaker 2: going to go to Kentucky unless Cal was there, and
Speaker 2: I'm not sure Kylind wonted him. But with Jasper Johnson,
Speaker 2: by all accounts, it didn't look great for him. It
Speaker 2: didn't look like he Kentucky was going to be, you know,
Speaker 2: in the mix. It was going to be Bama or Carolina,
Speaker 2: and Pope and his staff, you know, they fixed that.
Speaker 2: They found more money through Nil and we're able to
Speaker 2: convince him to come to Kentucky. So again, I'm not
Speaker 2: taking credit away, but let's also just not ignore a
Speaker 2: big factor. Both of these kids are from Kentucky. Jasper
Speaker 2: Johnson's entire family is affiliated with UK Athletics seemingly in
Speaker 2: some way, and Malachi is from Georgetown, big UK fan,
Speaker 2: grew up a huge Cats fan. So again I'm not saying, well, hey, no,
Speaker 2: it doesn't matter. Any coach could have got those guys
Speaker 2: because they wanted to go to Kentucky. Trust me, that's
Speaker 2: not what I'm saying, but if those guys weren't right
Speaker 2: here in Kentucky with that connection, I'm not sure Pope
Speaker 2: would have been able to get them for a visit.
Speaker 2: I mean, maybe I'm wrong and we'll never know, but
Speaker 2: that's actually something that, you know, I think Pope should
Speaker 2: be praised for is realizing, hey, this is a really
Speaker 2: good way to get some momentum going for us. I
Speaker 2: want to really prioritize these two guys who not only
Speaker 2: are from here and good players, but like they're really
Speaker 2: good players. I mean, it really worked out well for
Speaker 2: Pope to where he's got what two thirty players that
Speaker 2: have committed, and rarely do you get two players from
Speaker 2: the state that are that good in the same class,
Speaker 2: and it worked out well for him. So again I'm
Speaker 2: not saying, like you know, but let's put it this way.
Speaker 2: I would say, right now, if Kentucky's going head to
Speaker 2: head with Baylor, meaning Scott Drew, Bill self at Kansas,
Speaker 2: even John Shire at Duke, who else I'm trying to
Speaker 2: think of like the elite obviously Hurley at Yukon, and
Speaker 2: there's other programs that recruit really well, but like Pope
Speaker 2: and Kelsey like, I think you're gonna be at somewhat
Speaker 2: of a disadvantage with the other elite programs. One because
Speaker 2: you know, you can be in a perfect situation and
Speaker 2: loser recruit to Baylor or Duke or Kansas, because you
Speaker 2: know what, if you're going head to head with them,
Speaker 2: you're gonna lose a lot more than you win, unless
Speaker 2: your name is John cal Perry. But until you show
Speaker 2: proof of concept that what you're selling there's actually some
Speaker 2: some proof and results that it's working, I think it's
Speaker 2: just you know, and again that's nobody's fault it. It's
Speaker 2: just gonna take some time, all right. Speaking of Louisville Live,
Speaker 2: which I said, I don't think we've talked about louis Alive,
Speaker 2: but I guess speaking of Louisville Basketball, we now know
Speaker 2: the participants in both the Dunk Contest and the three
Speaker 2: point Shootout, and I don't I don't understand whether there's
Speaker 2: only three people participating in the three point shootout. Do
Speaker 2: they give these guys the option that you have to qualify?
Speaker 2: I have questions. There's only three in the three point
Speaker 2: shootout and four in the dunk contest, So in the
Speaker 2: three point shootout, you've got Caseon pryor Rain Smith and
Speaker 2: Noah Waterman. I would say, I mean Rain Smith statistically
Speaker 2: is your best shooter because he was one of the
Speaker 2: best shooters in college basketball last year. I mean, that
Speaker 2: is what he does. That is what he's out there
Speaker 2: to do. Not to say he's terrible at everything else,
Speaker 2: but like the tool he's got in his bag is
Speaker 2: really really efficient three point shot that can change a game.
Speaker 2: I mean, he can knock four down in a in
Speaker 2: a in a few minutes and completely flip a game.
Speaker 2: I don't want to say he's Ryan McMahon, but like
Speaker 2: that's what Ryan did. Ryan would have games where he
Speaker 2: gets hot, he got a nine point swing and a
Speaker 2: matter of three possessions at times. But with Cason, obviously
Speaker 2: he's a guy that can stretch the floor and shoot it.
Speaker 2: But I went a little surprised to see that he's
Speaker 2: I mean, look, if if these are the only three
Speaker 2: that wanted to do it, then you know whatever. But
Speaker 2: Noah Waterman is a really good shooter. In fact, I'm
Speaker 2: gonna I'm gonna pick Noah Watt. So that's that I
Speaker 2: picked yesterday. When it comes to the three point shootout,
Speaker 2: I'm going I'm sorry. The dunk contest, I'm going with
Speaker 2: Cater Treira, and then the three point shootout, I'm going
Speaker 2: Noah Waterman. But it wouldn't be shocked if the other
Speaker 2: two potentially win, because three point shootouts that kind of
Speaker 2: you know, that that that way of doing it instead
Speaker 2: of just catching and shooting or in a real game situation, like.
Speaker 4: There are guys who are elite shooters.
Speaker 2: In game that just aren't great at picking a ball
Speaker 2: up off a rack five straight times and then moving
Speaker 2: to the other side, like it's a different thing. I mean, technically,
Speaker 2: you're still shooting a basketball and your form is, you know,
Speaker 2: relatively the same, I would imagine. But Reggie Miller, one
Speaker 2: of the best shooters of all time, I don't know
Speaker 2: if he ever won a three point shootout, and Reggie's
Speaker 2: my favorite player ever. Therefore, I feel like I would
Speaker 2: I say that not knowing it, and now I got
Speaker 2: to look it up because I feel like if he
Speaker 2: if he would have won one, I would remember because
Speaker 2: again he was he's to the stay of my favorite
Speaker 2: NBA player of all time, But I don't think he was.
Speaker 2: If he did win one, it was probably if he
Speaker 2: did win one, that was probably just that one, and
Speaker 2: he was He's a great shooter, but I don't think
Speaker 2: he ever was great at that.
Speaker 4: Take a guest, John, you think he ever won one?
Speaker 4: Let's just go with yes, he didn't.
Speaker 2: Oh so he participated in the eighty nine to ninety
Speaker 2: ninety three, ninety five, ninety eight, so in five different
Speaker 2: three point shootouts in the NBA, he never won one.
Speaker 2: He fared well, but never actually got to the final two.
Speaker 2: So yeah, I'm gonna go Noah Waterman for the three
Speaker 2: point shootout and Cater trail Way for the dunk contest.
Speaker 2: We shall see. All right, let's get to a quick break.
Speaker 2: How about me keeping this thing on track better than
Speaker 2: you know I usually do. We are gonna have a
Speaker 2: guest coming up here in about twenty twenty five minutes
Speaker 2: or so. That's doctor Eric McElroy from pro Reaf Physical Therapy.
Speaker 2: What I want to get to. On the other side,
Speaker 2: there is a very unusual suspension that's been laid down
Speaker 2: by Eli Drinkwitz. He has suspended one of his staffers
Speaker 2: for the week, and the reason is, I feel like
Speaker 2: a very rare occurrence. But I gotta say, if I
Speaker 2: was Eli Drinkwitz, I'd probably do the same thing. So
Speaker 2: we'll get to that and a lot more. It's Coffee
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Speaker 2: seven ninety. So it looks like there are a total of,
Speaker 2: let's see here, five teams that have got off to
Speaker 2: a five and oh start BYU Duke Indiana, Miami in Texas,
Speaker 2: and Brett McMurphy has a rundown here of the last
Speaker 2: time each of those teams started five and oh and
Speaker 2: what their record ended up being in what their final
Speaker 2: ranking was.
Speaker 4: So the Hoosiers, do you know the answer to this, John.
Speaker 5: I know their best start was eight and o and
Speaker 5: now believe it was nineteen sixty seven.
Speaker 3: They ended up going to the Rose Bowl that year.
Speaker 4: Yep, you're right.
Speaker 2: So in sixty seven they started five and oh, finished
Speaker 2: nine and two and their final ranking was number four.
Speaker 2: Texas did it last year, of course, and went twelve
Speaker 2: and two and finished number three and made it all
Speaker 2: the way to the playoff.
Speaker 4: BYU did it.
Speaker 2: In twenty twenty one. They finished ten and three that
Speaker 2: year and in the top twenty at nineteen. Miami did
Speaker 2: it in twenty seventeen. That was the one year where
Speaker 2: Mark Rick was very successful. They went ten and three,
Speaker 2: finished number thirteen. That was Miami's last good season, at
Speaker 2: least at that level. And then Duke Duke went eight
Speaker 2: and four after starting five and oh in nineteen ninety four,
Speaker 2: but they did not finish the season ranked. Were they
Speaker 2: playing acc football in ninety four, I mean, I guess
Speaker 2: they would have. I don't know of them ever being
Speaker 2: in any other league, but yeah, of those, I mean,
Speaker 2: clearly Duke in Indiana being five and oh is not
Speaker 2: something that you know and apparently to say very often.
Speaker 5: Apparently Indiana has a chance to be the first team
Speaker 5: to reach six and ode based on the time each
Speaker 5: of these teams play this weekend, which is wild to
Speaker 5: be the first Bowl eligible team of twenty twenty.
Speaker 2: It's Northwestern, right, Yes, they're gonna win. I mean they're
Speaker 2: gonna Kirk Signetti is gonna be Bowl eligible by October fifth.
Speaker 2: I mean say it out loud like that's it's crazy.
Speaker 4: It is weird.
Speaker 3: But and we'll go into the bye week.
Speaker 2: Are you finding yourself at times like not? In because again,
Speaker 2: like let's like we all know that that part of
Speaker 2: the reason that they've been able to do this is
Speaker 2: because you know, they've yet to play like a really
Speaker 2: good team, but either way, there's still waymore.
Speaker 5: They've had schedules too, mentioned this yesterday that have been
Speaker 5: favorable that they don't take advantagey exactly.
Speaker 2: And you know, they beat the hell out of Maryland.
Speaker 2: They beat the hell out of every CLA. Yeah, they've
Speaker 2: covered every spread. So they're not just beating teams that
Speaker 2: you know aren't great, They're they're beating them down. But
Speaker 2: as an Indiana fan, do you ever find yourself in
Speaker 2: the last couple of weeks kind of thinking like is
Speaker 2: this real?
Speaker 1: Yeah?
Speaker 5: And I think I think once they'll they'll have a
Speaker 5: bye week after this weekend, and then they'll face Nebraska
Speaker 5: the following week at home, and I think depending on
Speaker 5: how that game plays out, we'll really determine where you
Speaker 5: can set the ceiling at for the rest of the season.
Speaker 2: And that's a great test because Nebraska is a team
Speaker 2: that I believe actually has good players and they're well coached.
Speaker 2: I don't think they're elite. They ended up who they
Speaker 2: lose to, that was Illinois, Yeah that was but Illinois,
Speaker 2: you know, is a pretty good team.
Speaker 4: Is that their only loss this year so far?
Speaker 1: Yeah? Yeah?
Speaker 2: And they really had to. I mean they they're freshman quarterback,
Speaker 2: who's great. He had a freshman moment late in that.
Speaker 3: Game, annihilated in overtime.
Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean it was. It was bad for him,
Speaker 4: but that's what happens.
Speaker 2: You know, He's still worthy of a starting spot considering
Speaker 2: all the good plays that he's made. But yeah, it
Speaker 2: was not good for him in that one. All right,
Speaker 2: it's coffee and Company Field about Thornton's here on Sports
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Speaker 2: on a Thursday afternoon. So I found this to be
Speaker 2: a very interesting story, and I found myself wondering what
Speaker 2: I would do if I was Eli Drinkwitz and wondering
Speaker 2: how I would feel if I was this staffer. So
Speaker 2: Missouri's going to visit Texas A and M on Saturday,
Speaker 2: ABC noon, same time Louisville plays, and it's I mean,
Speaker 2: it's it's a big game, especially considering how light the
Speaker 2: schedule is this week. As far as you know, well,
Speaker 2: I guess it is a matchup against two ranked teams
Speaker 2: because A and M is ranked number twenty five. So
Speaker 2: but maybe are they not ranked in one of the
Speaker 2: poles or something I don't know either.
Speaker 5: Are there in the coaches Paul believe they're unranked in
Speaker 5: the Gotcha they're tied with UNLV.
Speaker 3: It's kind of weird gotcha.
Speaker 2: Okay, So Marcel Reid is a red shirt freshman for
Speaker 2: Texas A and M, and he's their starting quarterback. He
Speaker 2: came in for Connor Weekman during A and m's win
Speaker 2: over I think it was McNee State, and he really
Speaker 2: got that offense going, and A and M has not
Speaker 2: looked back since then. I mean, in three starts, he's
Speaker 2: thrown for five hundred and fourteen yards, six touchdowns, no interceptions.
Speaker 2: He's rushed for about two hundred yards and also has
Speaker 2: two scores on the ground. So he's I mean, he's
Speaker 2: really really good. However, they've said at A and M
Speaker 2: that they're going to go back to Weekman and Eli
Speaker 2: Drinkwich I think is right here.
Speaker 4: He's not buying it.
Speaker 2: He's saying that that's just semantics. I mean, he's highlighting
Speaker 2: that this team has been way better with the backup
Speaker 2: who's now the starter, Marcel Reid. So I guess it's
Speaker 2: just some gamesmanship here. But the reason I bring this
Speaker 2: up is because one of the things that Drinkwitz learned
Speaker 2: about Marcel Reid, the you know, the quarterback who honestly
Speaker 2: probably made A and M fans feel a lot better
Speaker 2: about their season after he came in and ignited the offense.
Speaker 2: But he was unaware until Reid led A and M
Speaker 2: to a victory at Florida, meaning drink Wits, because he
Speaker 2: has a staffer on like Missouri has an assistant coach
Speaker 2: meeting the coach that works for drink Wits that is
Speaker 2: the brother of this quarterback. So yeah, it's the assistant
Speaker 2: director of on campus recruiting. I'm sorry, it's a sister,
Speaker 2: is Bria Reid. So he's he's decided to suspend her
Speaker 2: for a week where she's not allowed around the team
Speaker 2: at all. She's not allowed at practice. I don't even
Speaker 2: think she can show up to the team facility because
Speaker 2: you know, coaches are super paranoid. Coaches are super you know, paranoid.
Speaker 2: I guess that's the best word to use. I mean
Speaker 2: they're weird and and you know, just do weird things.
Speaker 2: And I don't really know if this is weird or not.
Speaker 2: Do you think this is like a well, I mean,
Speaker 2: he what he is thinking is that he does not
Speaker 2: want his staffer who he hired to be sharing secrets
Speaker 2: with her brother and or her family. And her family
Speaker 2: could maybe tell the brother, like have a hard time
Speaker 2: seeing that happening, But again, you know, it's high level,
Speaker 2: high competition here, maybe that would happen. But he's playing
Speaker 2: it safe and just making sure she's not around at
Speaker 2: all to hear anything about the game plan that Missouri
Speaker 2: has for this A and M game, because her brother
Speaker 2: is the quarterback for A and M. I wouldn't even
Speaker 2: think to do this because I would feel bad. But
Speaker 2: then again, I guess it's not crazy, right, Like she's
Speaker 2: getting paid. It's not like he's telling her she's being punished.
Speaker 2: A suspension is probably not the right way to word it.
Speaker 2: That's the article, That's how they worded it. But like
Speaker 2: I kind of get it, to be honest with you,
Speaker 2: if I was the employee, I don't know if I
Speaker 2: would be as understanding because I would probably be worried
Speaker 2: that you think I would, you know, sacrifice my job,
Speaker 2: maybe my career by giving my little brothers some you know,
Speaker 2: some tips.
Speaker 3: I think that's the thing.
Speaker 5: I bet there are people out there, maybe it's not
Speaker 5: this person specifically, who were if they were in this
Speaker 5: exact same situation, they would take advantage of that.
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, that's true, and you really would never know.
Speaker 2: But him keeping her away, I guess is his best
Speaker 2: way of saying, well, at least she's not going to
Speaker 2: be around anybody that you know is in practice when
Speaker 2: we are installing the game plan and what we're going
Speaker 2: to do to try to try to win this game.
Speaker 2: And it's a big game for Missouri, big game for
Speaker 2: both teams. To be honest with you, but I would
Speaker 2: be willing to bet that that's a rare thing in
Speaker 2: college football where the head coach has decided to and again,
Speaker 2: she's not an on field coach. She's she's the director
Speaker 2: of on campus recruiting, but she's still embedded within the
Speaker 2: program and the team every day. I mean, it's it's
Speaker 2: a full time position and you know your your office
Speaker 2: is at the facility. I'm sure, so just a rare,
Speaker 2: unusual situation, But if you think about it, I kind
Speaker 2: of get it from Eli Drinkwitz's perspective there. All right,
Speaker 2: So before we get to our next break and bring
Speaker 2: in doctor Eric McElroy of pro Reap Physical Therapy, a
Speaker 2: text that I referenced earlier. I'll just read it directly.
Speaker 2: It says Nick, I'm actually going to start pulling for
Speaker 2: Kentucky for every game here on out, because the better
Speaker 2: they are at the end of the year, when we
Speaker 2: lose to them, it won't look as bad. And I
Speaker 2: can accept us losing to them when they're good much
Speaker 2: more than I can accept losing to them when they
Speaker 2: stunk like they did last year. I mean, that's a
Speaker 2: lot of mental gymnastics there to try to, I guess,
Speaker 2: prepare yourself for a potential loss to the rival again,
Speaker 2: and look I get it, Like I mean, I'm not
Speaker 2: even thinking about that game right now one because I mean,
Speaker 2: if Louisville would have beat Notre Dame, I would still
Speaker 2: feel as if Kentucky is going to cause some matchup problems.
Speaker 3: Not to say you.
Speaker 2: Can't win and you won't win and there's no chance,
Speaker 2: but like Kentucky's so big upfront, like even against some
Speaker 2: SEC teams, they're defensive front. I mean they look I
Speaker 2: mean not to say these guys are all NFL caliber players,
Speaker 2: plenty of them are, I'm sure, but like they look
Speaker 2: like an NFL team physically on defense, and their defense
Speaker 2: is really really good on offense. They made some plays
Speaker 2: and they've got some play makers, but clearly they're not
Speaker 2: lighting it up this year, and they may not need
Speaker 2: to if their defense is that good and their offense
Speaker 2: can you know, do just enough like they did against
Speaker 2: Ole Miss. But like, I don't believe you, Like you're
Speaker 2: lying to yourself and you're lying to me. If you
Speaker 2: are the type of fan that's already putting this plan
Speaker 2: in motion as far as how you're going to accept
Speaker 2: a potential loss, then you probably hate Kentucky. It's clearly
Speaker 2: bothering you two months out that you're you're already trying
Speaker 2: to find a way to you know, deal with it
Speaker 2: if it happens. So that means it would be impossible
Speaker 2: for you to want them to win any game. I mean,
Speaker 2: I hear what you're saying, because if they are and look,
Speaker 2: I'm not pulling for them, I hope they lose every
Speaker 2: game they're not going to. But yeah, if you end
Speaker 2: up playing them at the end of the year, and
Speaker 2: let's they upset Tennessee, lose to Texas and then be
Speaker 2: all the other teams they're supposed to beat, they'd be
Speaker 2: a pretty highly ranked team and I'm not saying they're
Speaker 2: going to do that, because I still think they could
Speaker 2: have dud games and get beat by anybody on their
Speaker 2: schedule outside of Murray State. So I'm not saying this
Speaker 2: is going to happen, but like, if that was the
Speaker 2: scenario that would make it to where rivalry is side,
Speaker 2: which it is hard to put aside, you would know
Speaker 2: you're playing a really good team that like at that
Speaker 2: point would have shown that they can beat really good teams,
Speaker 2: and like it's going to be a really tough matchup.
Speaker 2: So just calm down, try not to think about the
Speaker 2: Kentucky game until we get closer to it. I mean,
Speaker 2: I'm not here to tell you that I'm overly confident,
Speaker 2: but you know.
Speaker 5: Here's the outside of that, though, is that if they're
Speaker 5: confident coming in, then all you're going to hear going
Speaker 5: into that week is how good they are. Whereas last year,
Speaker 5: and I know the payoff wasn't there because Louisville didn't win.
Speaker 5: They hated their team, as you've said multiple times.
Speaker 2: And like called into the show, my show, a Louisville
Speaker 2: based show for the most part, to let me know that,
Speaker 2: like we don't respect Louisville we don't think they're any
Speaker 2: good but we but we suck. Like that wasn't the
Speaker 2: word for word call, but like many people kind of
Speaker 2: said the same thing. Yeah, you all still think despite
Speaker 2: being ten win team, but we're just we're just really bad,
Speaker 2: Like I don't So anyways, let's get to a break.
Speaker 2: We'll come back on the other side. Talk to doctor
Speaker 2: Eric McElroy of pro Reap Physical Therapy. I want to
Speaker 2: get his thoughts on this Christian McCaffrey thing. But you're
Speaker 2: starting to hear some noise that like maybe he has
Speaker 2: finally had an injury that he won't be able to
Speaker 2: fully recover from. I have no clue and nobody knows really,
Speaker 2: but we'll get his thoughts on it in a lot
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Speaker 2: Talk seven ninety A beautiful Thursday afternoon, and our Thursday
Speaker 2: afternoon just got better because we can now welcome in
Speaker 2: doctor Eric mccelroy from pro Reap Physical Therapy.
Speaker 4: How we doing this afternoon, Doctor.
Speaker 6: I'm doing great.
Speaker 7: Nick, I'm not sure got any more beautiful. Oh, come on,
Speaker 7: but maybe a guy a little better. Hey, you know what, well,
Speaker 7: it can't get it can't get more beautiful.
Speaker 2: It's a gorgeous I like to gas my guys up.
Speaker 2: And you're you're you know, you're a big part of
Speaker 2: the show. You have been for for a long time,
Speaker 2: so it's always good to bring you in. But you're right,
Speaker 2: today's weather is beautiful, warm, warm enough with a nice breeze.
Speaker 2: It's it is damn near perfect if you ask me,
Speaker 2: So let's get right to it. Big injury in the
Speaker 2: NFL that has been probably talked about, maybe more than
Speaker 2: any injury so far this season is Christian McCaffrey uh
Speaker 2: and he now is dealing with bilateral Achilles tendonitis. Recently,
Speaker 2: he made a trip to Germany to get some type
Speaker 2: of I guess, you know, get some feedback from some
Speaker 2: doctors over there as far as how he can get healthy.
Speaker 2: And there's a lot of noise out there. It's just
Speaker 2: speculation that, you know, maybe this could maybe be the
Speaker 2: injury that he never fully recovers from. Maybe he doesn't
Speaker 2: come back this year. But when you hear bilateral Achilles tendonitis,
Speaker 2: meaning it's in both of his both of his legs,
Speaker 2: I mean I would say that it doesn't look great
Speaker 2: for him, but I could be totally wrong.
Speaker 6: Oh it doesn't, No, it doesn't.
Speaker 7: I'm a little I'll be honest with I mean, I'm
Speaker 7: not sure why you get go to Europe unless he's
Speaker 7: doing some some experimental procedures over there that they don't
Speaker 7: necessarily allow in the United States. I mean, we treat
Speaker 7: Achilles tendinopathies ten and is tendinosis, which is more is.
Speaker 6: More the chronic version all the time.
Speaker 7: And yes, it can be very convenated, especially the more
Speaker 7: chronic it gets.
Speaker 6: It can be difficult.
Speaker 7: Uh, it's also that much more challenging when you're dealing with,
Speaker 7: you know, professional athlete at the level that he is,
Speaker 7: and both sides, So a lot that goes into that
Speaker 7: be interesting to see what all. You know, there's a
Speaker 7: lot of background information I would love to know as
Speaker 7: to why it's lingering, continuing on how it happened in
Speaker 7: the first place. Generally don't see it both sides. Uh,
Speaker 7: So you know, I could speculate a lot. There's a
Speaker 7: lot of things that would go through my head as
Speaker 7: far as when you see something like that come about,
Speaker 7: you know, you know what he could be or couldn't
Speaker 7: or not doing what he's taken or not taken. Uh,
Speaker 7: you know that could contribute to having it on both
Speaker 7: sides and it being to the point where it's it's
Speaker 7: hard enough to treat that he has to feel like
Speaker 7: he has.
Speaker 6: To go to Europe.
Speaker 2: Yeah, and I think the trip to Europe as well
Speaker 2: as you know now hearing that it's in that it's
Speaker 2: in that, it's it's it's worse. It's not just one,
Speaker 2: it's it's both achilles. I think that that's made people
Speaker 2: just think, Okay, this guy's really in a bad way.
Speaker 2: And he may be, but you know, I found it
Speaker 2: very interesting and I don't have the exact quote in
Speaker 2: front of me, but his father, Ed McCaffrey, of course,
Speaker 2: is well known in the football world, he came out
Speaker 2: and said that he believes. In fact, I found the
Speaker 2: quote he said, tendonitis is an overtraining injury, meaning you're
Speaker 2: training too hard or doing too mote too much and
Speaker 2: it turns into tendonitis. So that was on the Ross
Speaker 2: Tucker Football podcast. What do you make of his father,
Speaker 2: you know, maybe not saying hey, it's all my son's fault.
Speaker 2: Don't have sympathy for him, but saying, hey, this is
Speaker 2: something he got from overtraining. He's obviously been injured before
Speaker 2: and he's miraculously always gotten back to a really good
Speaker 2: elite player with some big time injuries that have happened.
Speaker 2: And also he's an a position that guys just kind
Speaker 2: of fall off the clip when they get to his age.
Speaker 2: So you know, I just curious feedback when you hear that.
Speaker 2: You know, some people, you know, his father even thinks
Speaker 2: that it's that overtraining could have been a big factor here.
Speaker 7: Well, it absolutely can be. And most of the time
Speaker 7: it is overtrained for sure. I mean that that is
Speaker 7: one hundred percent accurate.
Speaker 6: It's not.
Speaker 7: Sometimes it's trying to train too hard too soon for
Speaker 7: some people, so their body is not prepared for the
Speaker 7: forces that they're placing upon it, and that'll create an
Speaker 7: iis tenonitis.
Speaker 6: So it's definitely overtraining. Most most tendonitises are overuse, you know.
Speaker 6: But he's a pro athlete with all the resources in
Speaker 6: the world, the.
Speaker 7: Best you know, medical staff, rehab staff, you know injured
Speaker 7: you know, prevention, nutrition, everything you could possibly imagine.
Speaker 6: So I don't love that as the reason.
Speaker 7: I mean, it absolutely is but you know, he should
Speaker 7: be getting he's likely getting treatment anytime he wants around
Speaker 7: the clock that while he's training, should be able to
Speaker 7: mitigate that.
Speaker 1: You know.
Speaker 6: It's it's one thing if you're an amateur, you don't have.
Speaker 7: The resources and the means or the you know, education
Speaker 7: to help guide you.
Speaker 6: But he has that.
Speaker 7: Now, whether he listens to him or tries to do
Speaker 7: it on his own, that's a whole other animal. Also,
Speaker 7: you know, it makes me just think, and I don't
Speaker 7: want to start the whole thing on this show, but
Speaker 7: you know, what else could he be doing or taking
Speaker 7: that to contribute to a higher risk of an achilles
Speaker 7: cinonitis where his tenons are more likely to have problems,
Speaker 7: you know, And it wouldn't be out of the realm
Speaker 7: of possibilities and athletics as we all know. So you know,
Speaker 7: just those are things that I would start thinking about.
Speaker 7: Given the circumstances and given the resources that he has.
Speaker 7: Those are just red flags for me. But he's right,
Speaker 7: I mean, it is an overtraining issue. But again, if
Speaker 7: you're at this level and at the level player he is,
Speaker 7: you ought to know how to help manage that or
Speaker 7: have help managing that.
Speaker 2: Yeah, fun balance right all the time, right, absolutely sticking.
Speaker 4: With the NFL too.
Speaker 2: Tuga below is probably the other NFL player who has
Speaker 2: been discussed more than anybody when it comes to injuries,
Speaker 2: and it's because of the fourth documented concussion that he
Speaker 2: that he suffered earlier this year September twelfth. It's been
Speaker 2: reported that he is now free of concussion symptoms. He
Speaker 2: has met with neurologists and he's not received any feedback
Speaker 2: that has dissuaded him from continuing to play football. That
Speaker 2: was a big topic for a few days after that happened, like, hey,
Speaker 2: should he still be out there playing despite you know,
Speaker 2: having this, you know, because he's had these many concussions,
Speaker 2: and I think he's he's he's gonna want to keep
Speaker 2: playing until somebody tells him, hey, you probably shouldn't. It
Speaker 2: sounds like I guess that hasn't happened just yet. But
Speaker 2: the Dolphins have been a mess without him. His value.
Speaker 2: I think it's pretty evident when he plays, but man,
Speaker 2: it really stands out when they don't have him. I mean,
Speaker 2: and I'm asking you just to guess and speculate here,
Speaker 2: and sometimes I hate doing that, but getting him back
Speaker 2: out there would have sounded crazy a few weeks ago,
Speaker 2: But is it you know, I mean, I mean, if
Speaker 2: he gets the green light, I mean, he could get
Speaker 2: a concussion on any play, just like anybody else can.
Speaker 2: But like I guess it's you know, maybe it's not
Speaker 2: crazy that he comes back this year at some point.
Speaker 6: Yeah, you know, I don't.
Speaker 7: And you remember having a doctor Seifert on here, uh,
Speaker 7: and he on the show, and uh, he's one of
Speaker 7: the best here in Louisville, and he's one of the
Speaker 7: best in our.
Speaker 6: Region when it comes to concussions. And he said many
Speaker 6: times that you can have one concussion and you should
Speaker 6: end your career, and you should you could have ten concussions. Fine,
Speaker 6: you know, it's like like a lot of different injuries.
Speaker 7: But Nick, I don't know, Like the way his you know,
Speaker 7: the look on his concussions, the posturing and all those
Speaker 7: kind of things that he gets every time is a
Speaker 7: huge concern for me.
Speaker 6: You know, right the medical.
Speaker 7: Staff is going to tell you know, I kind of
Speaker 7: approach it this way too, to be honest, is that
Speaker 7: these guys are professionals.
Speaker 6: He's an adult, he's a grown man.
Speaker 7: He knows the risk and if he is capable and
Speaker 7: able to come back based on all the testing. And
Speaker 7: that's what he chooses to do. It's on him and
Speaker 7: we can't you know, I hate to say it this way,
Speaker 7: but you can't. So sorry for him now if I'm
Speaker 7: his family, you know, that's a different conversation. You know,
Speaker 7: it's it's sometimes you got to step in and try
Speaker 7: to hope that you can give the advice or help
Speaker 7: support somebody to think through something, you know.
Speaker 6: And make better decisions. You know, he's set for life, uh, and.
Speaker 7: He's got a long life to live and you would
Speaker 7: hate to see him struggle with that later on in life.
Speaker 7: And but I think that's those are things that he
Speaker 7: needs to talk. You know, hopefully his family can step
Speaker 7: in and really make him think twice about what he's doing.
Speaker 7: So but you know, those are two different conversations, uh,
Speaker 7: you know, the doctor's conversation and the and the rehab
Speaker 7: staff and everybody just basically like it is what it is.
Speaker 7: You're going to try to be as objective as you
Speaker 7: possibly can. And and we do that all the time
Speaker 7: and give people the you know what, you know what
Speaker 7: the risk is.
Speaker 6: And you know they have to understand that risk.
Speaker 7: And then give them the best advice we can give them,
Speaker 7: and then they can make the choice for themselves.
Speaker 2: Doctor Ereg McElroy, Proriat Physical Therapy is our guest joining
Speaker 2: us here on Sports Talk seven ninety when it comes
Speaker 2: to college football couple of injuries, I wanted to get
Speaker 2: your thoughts on. Kentucky had a running back transfer in
Speaker 2: from Ohio State and Chip train him, and he broke
Speaker 2: his hand as soon as their camp started, and the
Speaker 2: expectation was that he'd be he'd be out for you know,
Speaker 2: the first few games maybe, and then last week was
Speaker 2: cleared to return, then it was doubtful, then he was
Speaker 2: listed as out, and now there's talk that he could
Speaker 2: potentially have a procedure done that might shelf him for
Speaker 2: the rest of the year. Again, I mean, you're going
Speaker 2: in blind here as far as the situation, but I
Speaker 2: mean a broken hand would usually be something that like
Speaker 2: if you I mean again, maybe I'm way off here,
Speaker 2: but I feel like you would have known initially if
Speaker 2: you needed to have some kind of procedure right or
Speaker 2: maybe throughout the healing process you learned that it's not
Speaker 2: going the way that you thought and.
Speaker 4: You need to get operated on it. Just that seemed
Speaker 4: very very puzzling.
Speaker 7: It is puzzling to me, and it's you know, I
Speaker 7: mean that's my job is to speculate, you know, right
Speaker 7: when we have in these conversations. So I love it,
Speaker 7: but you know, to me, what it tells me is
Speaker 7: there there is something showing up on the bone. It's
Speaker 7: just not that doesn't look good, whatever that is. And
Speaker 7: I know that seems like pretty simple, but it's not
Speaker 7: like sometimes it's all to pick up on that or
Speaker 7: you're seeing where it is at that moment in time,
Speaker 7: thinking all right, in two weeks that should fill in
Speaker 7: really good. He should be ready to go, right, you're
Speaker 7: projecting forward well on those follow ups, it may not.
Speaker 7: There's things called malunions where the bone looks like it's
Speaker 7: going to start to close and it doesn't. And it
Speaker 7: could be that from the time they checked, you know,
Speaker 7: two weeks ago till now it didn't progress. That's a
Speaker 7: different animal. Now it's like, oh no, we may need
Speaker 7: to go in and do something to help accelerate that
Speaker 7: healing of that bone because it's not healing like we
Speaker 7: thought it was two weeks ago.
Speaker 6: So that's what I would where I would go, and
Speaker 6: then that happens.
Speaker 7: Unfortunately, especially in certain areas of the body and certain bones,
Speaker 7: and it could be something else. Hopefully it's not some
Speaker 7: kind of infection that's formed or something like that, or
Speaker 7: some reaction to any kind of hardware that was put in,
Speaker 7: which again, all of those things could be a possibility.
Speaker 7: That may have not been the case. Two weeks ago.
Speaker 7: It looked like he was, you know, progressing as they
Speaker 7: would expect and would be able to return.
Speaker 2: So Quincy Riley is one of Louisville's best defensive backs.
Speaker 2: He was listed as a game time decision was for
Speaker 2: the Notre Dame game, and then as we got to
Speaker 2: game day listed as doubtful, did not play, And we
Speaker 2: really don't know a whole lot about it. Not to
Speaker 2: say that we're entitled to it, but he's so important
Speaker 2: to Louisville. Jeff browm'son pretty quiet as far as the
Speaker 2: actual injury. I think some reports are that it's it's
Speaker 2: the right foot or ankle, and I think he's still
Speaker 2: kind of, you know, his status kind of remains up
Speaker 2: in the air. I mean, he was out there warming
Speaker 2: up before the game, not sure if it was because
Speaker 2: he was going to maybe see if he could give
Speaker 2: it a go. If that's the case, I'd say that's encouraging.
Speaker 2: But everybody's asking what the hell's going on with Quincy Riley,
Speaker 2: and I don't think any of us know, No.
Speaker 7: We don't, and then they're pretty hush hush about it,
Speaker 7: and uh, you know, and that's okay, And I do
Speaker 7: think that it's you know, all the signs are positive.
Speaker 7: He's out warming up before games anytime you listen to
Speaker 7: his game time decision. Unless they had some kind of
Speaker 7: setback to something, that would be very unfortunate, especially for him. Uh,
Speaker 7: it's usually you know, at this point, he's day to day.
Speaker 7: I suspect given what we saw.
Speaker 6: And giving him warming up and giving him and me at.
Speaker 7: Least being in the conversation of playing, I would be
Speaker 7: shocked if they don't play him. You know, maybe they'll
Speaker 7: kind of go into with some expectations that you know,
Speaker 7: depending on how the game starts will depend on how
Speaker 7: they start to utilize him, so you know it all
Speaker 7: they may, you know, because you don't want to push
Speaker 7: somebody in too soon if if you know, it could
Speaker 7: risk him being out longer down the road. So you know,
Speaker 7: I think that that's probably where they are. I have
Speaker 7: a feeling that I'd be shocked if he doesn't play
Speaker 7: this weekend, just given the fact that he was have
Speaker 7: a decision and even listed as doubtful. Yeah, you know,
Speaker 7: which is different than out, so you know the circumstances
Speaker 7: and playing the game they were in the game.
Speaker 6: You know.
Speaker 7: It's it's that again, the risk reward, given where we
Speaker 7: are in the season, may not be big enough to them.
Speaker 2: Eric, I appreciate you making time for us here on
Speaker 2: a beautiful Thursday afternoon. Go enjoy this beautiful weather, have
Speaker 2: a good weekend, and we will talk to you soon.
Speaker 6: My friend absolutely do the same. Nick A good one.
Speaker 4: Take care.
Speaker 2: That's doctor Eric McElroy, pro Rea physical therapy quick break.
Speaker 2: We got the five o'clock hour coming up here on
Speaker 2: the other side. Any rare back to back guest segments, right,
Speaker 2: We don't do that very often, but you know when
Speaker 2: we do, we do it big. Eric McElroy. Then Kent
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