Speaker 1: For him to be at the top of the list
Speaker 1: production wise, even after missing a chunk of his junior years,
Speaker 1: is really darn impressive. Didn't even do a lot his
Speaker 1: freshman year, so you know, he had two kind of
Speaker 1: monster seasons from a production standpoint. Again, it may not
Speaker 1: be one had that one superpower, may not be truly
Speaker 1: special in any one way. But I think as far
Speaker 1: as weaknesses goes, he may have the fewest questions among
Speaker 1: the top four or five receivers. So if you told
Speaker 1: me he was gonna end up being a late first
Speaker 1: round pick and would not shock me at all. Maybe
Speaker 1: twenties to forties overall, I think is where he's gonna go,
Speaker 1: and slot could be possible outside part time, very very
Speaker 1: quarterback friendly receiver, I would say.
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Speaker 3: Eric at Home, Draft Analyst of the NFL Network. Eric's
Speaker 3: been covering the NFL for more than a couple of decades,
Speaker 3: first a Pro Football Weekly, where I became acquainted with him,
Speaker 3: and then Sporting News and Yahoo Sports. Born and raised,
Speaker 3: I didn't realize you were from Boston, Massachusetts. Eric here,
Speaker 3: you don't have that deep New England accent anymore. You
Speaker 3: did it to me, I'll break it out if.
Speaker 4: I have to.
Speaker 1: You know, I know it's not my natural voice, as
Speaker 1: you'll come to figure out. Yeah, my folks are Midwest people.
Speaker 1: I've settled here, so maybe that's where it comes from.
Speaker 1: Uh for sure, gotcha.
Speaker 3: You know I've mentioned we cooked up Pro Football Weekly.
Speaker 3: Mad You'll recall we used to do a program called
Speaker 3: hob Archistra and I. We would anchor this thing each
Speaker 3: week during the football season, sure called Pro Football Weekly
Speaker 3: on the air, and it was syndicated all across the country.
Speaker 3: And Eric was a major contributor, being on the Pro
Speaker 3: Football Weekly staff at a segment we called the Way
Speaker 3: We Hear It, And you know, you did a lot
Speaker 3: of that, and what was interesting, Eric one time we
Speaker 3: were at one point, this had to be back maybe
Speaker 3: the late eighties, and the Packers radio network was being
Speaker 3: run by WTMJ at the time, and they used Pro
Speaker 3: Football Weekly on the air as part of the Packers
Speaker 3: pregame show. Hostle This went on for like a season,
Speaker 3: maybe two seasons, and then somebody, this is long before
Speaker 3: social media and everything, somebody let the bosses at WTMJ
Speaker 3: know that Hob and I are broadcasting the Bears and
Speaker 3: we're on a Packers pre kape. What's going on.
Speaker 4: Yeah, I'm sure I didn't go over too well.
Speaker 3: That didn't go over very well.
Speaker 4: That's great.
Speaker 3: Oh my, hey, tell us about what you're doing now
Speaker 3: and how you got to Pro NFL Network.
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, No, A couple of years ago I got
Speaker 1: offered the job to sort of be there one of
Speaker 1: their draft analysts, and I've kind of split my time
Speaker 1: up Wayne during the season. Yes, I do pay attention
Speaker 1: to the college prospects and college football in general, but
Speaker 1: I also do the power rankings for NFL dot Com,
Speaker 1: and so it's kind.
Speaker 4: Of a fifty to fifty split.
Speaker 1: I guess I spend about half the year doing kind
Speaker 1: of NFL stuff, if you will, and then the other half,
Speaker 1: maybe you know, December through May, focused on drafts. So
Speaker 1: it's good it kind of splits my year and half.
Speaker 1: I have something to kind of look forward to at
Speaker 1: the end of the season, and I enjoy kind of
Speaker 1: dividing my time like that, and it's it's been a
Speaker 1: fun few years.
Speaker 5: I'm just scrolling through your your latest mock draft from
Speaker 5: I don't know if that was from a week.
Speaker 4: We could go a couple of weeks maybe, Yeah.
Speaker 5: Yeah, really general question though, how would you describe the
Speaker 5: talent this year coming into the draft? There's always an
Speaker 5: Avian flowed on matter. Yeah, or where would you place
Speaker 5: this year's class?
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's a really interesting class. I mean, I every
Speaker 1: year has its own fingerprint, its own DNA, right, And
Speaker 1: I think we, you know, try our best to kind
Speaker 1: of look at it on a micro level, but you
Speaker 1: have to look at it on a macro two and
Speaker 1: kind of draw back a little bit. And I think
Speaker 1: the biggest takeaway, big picture, there's some really strong positions.
Speaker 1: I would say defensive line and I would include edge
Speaker 1: rusher's A and interior guys in that discussion. Is really
Speaker 1: strong running backs. This could be a terrific year for
Speaker 1: the backfield, and we've seen obviously a little bit of
Speaker 1: a resurgence in the run.
Speaker 4: Game in the NFL.
Speaker 1: Tight end is an unusually strong group. I think there's
Speaker 1: going to be four or five of these guys who
Speaker 1: end up being, you know, in the discussion for the
Speaker 1: top ten tight ends, if you will, at the league
Speaker 1: at some point. It's just kind of a slower developing position.
Speaker 1: But outside of those positions, and it's not to besmirch
Speaker 1: the entire class or anything, there's just a lack of
Speaker 1: blue chip talent, I think, And it's it's a little
Speaker 1: wild to be saying that the year where we have
Speaker 1: a true two way player in Travis Hunter, one of
Speaker 1: them were on you usual draft prospects in recent memory.
Speaker 1: Abdul Carter could end up being a you know, a
Speaker 1: Micah Parsons level type of rusher. You know, we could
Speaker 1: have a quarterback go number one in cam Ward. But
Speaker 1: even with those things, I would say that this year's
Speaker 1: top twelve fifteen picks or so maybe don't stack up
Speaker 1: dollar for dollar the way they would against a typical year. Now,
Speaker 1: there may be more depth in certain spots, and I
Speaker 1: think Day two will be pretty productive, especially those positions
Speaker 1: I mentioned, But big picture, it's not one of those
Speaker 1: classes that's just teaming with blue chip type talent.
Speaker 4: I would say at the top.
Speaker 3: You know, when quarterbacks always are the lead story in
Speaker 3: an NFL draft. You mentioned cam Ward is going to
Speaker 3: be probably the number one pick from all educations. Tennessee
Speaker 3: will take him number one. But the most polarizing figure
Speaker 3: in this draft is Shadura Sanders, the quarterback out of
Speaker 3: Colorado Dion Sun. Some people have him going number two
Speaker 3: right away to what Cleveland, and others have him dropping
Speaker 3: all the way maybe to Pittsburgh at twenty one or
Speaker 3: so in the draft. Where do you see this prospect?
Speaker 1: I would love to find out what people's neutral takes
Speaker 1: would be on Sanders if his last name was Jones
Speaker 1: or Thompson or or Williams or whatever. I mean, the
Speaker 1: point being, obviously, I think there is a little bit
Speaker 1: of bias, and in some cases a negative bias, because
Speaker 1: he is Deon Sanderson. I don't look at it necessarily
Speaker 1: that way. First of all, I mean, you know, you
Speaker 1: have a championship DNA in your blood. That's probably a positive.
Speaker 1: The funny thing is, though Sanders to me, doesn't have
Speaker 1: Dad's DNA. When it comes to a rare generational athletic talent,
Speaker 1: I think he's from a physical tool standpoint, pretty average.
Speaker 1: I mean that's really you know, you look at his
Speaker 1: arm strength, it's fine, it's doable. You look at his athleticism,
Speaker 1: I would say it's okay. He can buy time. I
Speaker 1: mean he can convert first downs and kind of an
Speaker 1: opportunistic runner, but you know, he's not blessed with these
Speaker 1: amazing gifts in a lot of ways. And yet when
Speaker 1: you really watch his tape, accuracy, toughness, I think, smarts.
Speaker 1: You know, he's kind of felt out the game a
Speaker 1: little bit and and learned what he can and can't do.
Speaker 1: I think he's a really good rhythm passer for the
Speaker 1: most part. But how far will that take him? I mean,
Speaker 1: that's really the big question is is there a high
Speaker 1: ceiling on him? I don't think so. I wouldn't say,
Speaker 1: you know, taking too many sacks, kind of recognizing blitzes
Speaker 1: and things like that have been a little bit thorny
Speaker 1: for him. I wish he threw with a little more anticipation,
Speaker 1: even though he is a pretty accurate thrower for the
Speaker 1: most part. But yeah, I mean I would say he
Speaker 1: grades out like a second round pick if we're being
Speaker 1: honest with ourselves. Now, that doesn't mean he can't be successful.
Speaker 1: It just he lacks those kind of Caleb Williams, Drake May,
Speaker 1: Jaden Daniels type of tools that typically go in that
Speaker 1: top five range.
Speaker 4: So we'll see.
Speaker 1: I mean, I you know, I think there are about
Speaker 1: four or five teams that make a lot of sense
Speaker 1: for Shaud Ear and for me, going in the top
Speaker 1: five just doesn't feel all that likely. Keep an eye
Speaker 1: on the Sands style. I mean, now all of a sudden,
Speaker 1: this Derek Carr stuff, maybe he's in play at number nine.
Speaker 1: So you never know. With quarterbacks, they are always bumped
Speaker 1: up the charts pretty high because of the positional value.
Speaker 5: It seems like Eric, depending on the platform or the
Speaker 5: week that we're looking at it, Shador Sanders, Jackson Dark
Speaker 5: there are some who seem to think that he could
Speaker 5: be the number two quarterback. Yeah, where do you see
Speaker 5: his ceiling? Is it a higher one than shaudor Sanders?
Speaker 4: I would say so.
Speaker 1: Now that doesn't mean that that his floor isn't necessarily
Speaker 1: lower or there isn't you know, plenty of work to
Speaker 1: be done. I mean, obviously, I would say the last
Speaker 1: three years is starting at USC kind of helped, you know,
Speaker 1: reinvigorate the five star prospect that was, you know, once
Speaker 1: considered one of the two were three best quarterbacks in
Speaker 1: his high school class, you know, won the job at
Speaker 1: USC transfer. But I would say it really wasn't until
Speaker 1: probably his second year with Lane Kiffin at Old missed
Speaker 1: that things really started to develop with him. But you know,
Speaker 1: he's a smart kid. He won the academic heisman he
Speaker 1: got I think he was getting three eights in the
Speaker 1: in the classroom. He's a good athlete. He's a little
Speaker 1: bit better built, thicker build than guy like Sanders, a
Speaker 1: little taller, a little more built to withstand some some
Speaker 1: damage over the long term. Athletically, maybe just a little
Speaker 1: bit better, I would say, throws with nice touch and
Speaker 1: can maybe have a little bit more juice in his arm.
Speaker 1: But you know, there's there's still a lot of suspicion
Speaker 1: with him in some circles where how much did Lane
Speaker 1: Kiffin's brilliant offense kind of make this a one read
Speaker 1: quarterback in a lot of ways, and how many of
Speaker 1: those verse reads were open? There was a lot of it.
Speaker 1: So when you're really drilling down the number of plays
Speaker 1: that you can truly evaluate and say, okay, here's where
Speaker 1: I see special, you know, even on seventy yard touchdown
Speaker 1: passes may not be that often. So there's a little
Speaker 1: bit of projection with him. I think he's had a
Speaker 1: little bit of an injury history more in the past, but.
Speaker 4: It wouldn't totally stun.
Speaker 1: Me if you if you saw a team pull the
Speaker 1: trigger on Dark before Sanders, I could also see him
Speaker 1: being the third quarterback. I think all three guys will
Speaker 1: probably end up going somewhere in the top forty, So
Speaker 1: you know, if not round one, then the first handful
Speaker 1: of picks of round two. And I would even say
Speaker 1: keep an eye on Jalen Milroe. You know, he's sort
Speaker 1: of the wild card. He's been reportedly invited to Green
Speaker 1: Bay for the draft, and that kind of tells you
Speaker 1: that the NFL maybe a little higher on him than
Speaker 1: some people like me are.
Speaker 3: Yeah, Melroe ran a great forty at his pro day.
Speaker 3: I believe just at four or four or just under
Speaker 3: for a forty yard dash quarterback. That's that as eye opening.
Speaker 3: And oh yeah, something that got have noticed these quarterbacks.
Speaker 3: To kind of wrap up this part of it, any
Speaker 3: of these guys go in the top six if they
Speaker 3: were in last year's draft in the time, that's a
Speaker 3: great question.
Speaker 1: Yeah, if you were to stack them up against you know, Williams, Daniels,
Speaker 1: May and then kind of the second trio of Pennix,
Speaker 1: McCarthy and Nix, I think we'd be debating them more
Speaker 1: on the second trio, you know, in that group than
Speaker 1: we would the first not to say that Cam Word
Speaker 1: doesn't have an intriguing skill set. He's probably you know,
Speaker 1: more athletically and more our talent wise blessed than the
Speaker 1: other guys are. There's still some stuff that has to
Speaker 1: be cleaned up in his game. But other than Ward,
Speaker 1: I can't see anybody even really being in the discussion.
Speaker 1: I would put them again more in that if they
Speaker 1: were in last year's class. Let's say, if everybody was
Speaker 1: loved together, they'd be more in that quarterback five six
Speaker 1: seven debate than they would be try to push into
Speaker 1: that top three.
Speaker 5: We went off of that position. A couple of minutes ago.
Speaker 5: You mentioned Travis Hunter, who it sounds like he is
Speaker 5: oud of it about being introduced as a two way player,
Speaker 5: a dB and a wide receiver made for both of
Speaker 5: you guys. How realistic is that? Could he do that
Speaker 5: in the NFL? Or he's going to have to be
Speaker 5: ninety eight percent one side of the ball and the other.
Speaker 4: Yeah, boy, it's such a great debate.
Speaker 1: I mean, Dion has done a few interviews now where
Speaker 1: he's saying, you know, like college is all about tempo
Speaker 1: and all this stuff. The NFL, there's more breaks and things,
Speaker 1: and there's more time between plays for rest, and you know,
Speaker 1: like in theory, it should be easier in the NFL.
Speaker 1: I don't know that I necessarily agree with that. I
Speaker 1: understand is thinking. I understand the rationale, but you're also
Speaker 1: going up against superior athletes and it just doesn't know,
Speaker 1: feel like it's reasonable to ask a player to play
Speaker 1: one hundred plus snaps per game. I mean, really, you know,
Speaker 1: a short game, we're playing sixty snaps on each side
Speaker 1: of the ball, plus another, you know something on special teams.
Speaker 1: So boy, playing two thirds of an NFL game, you know,
Speaker 1: or three quarters of an NFL game without break feels
Speaker 1: like a lot to me. And what's fascinating to me
Speaker 1: too is also the debate amongst evaluators over which position
Speaker 1: should sort of be his primary one. Every team's going
Speaker 1: to have a different plan. We'll play them at receiver,
Speaker 1: then we'll use them at corner, and you know, if
Speaker 1: third downs, red zone, blah blah blah, fourth quarter or whatever.
Speaker 4: The opposite is also true. Some teams say it's.
Speaker 1: Harder to find that number one corner. Let's make him
Speaker 1: that and then let's give him a package of plays
Speaker 1: on offense, you know, fifteen eighteen, twenty plays, whatever it
Speaker 1: may be. So everybody has a different view of it.
Speaker 1: I will say that what I took away from the
Speaker 1: pro day with Hunter running routes, catching passes but not
Speaker 1: doing the dB drills, it was clear that, you know,
Speaker 1: to me, it felt like he was saying, I'd love
Speaker 1: to do both, but if I can only do one,
Speaker 1: I want to make sure I catch passes. So take
Speaker 1: that for what it's worth. That's my impression of it,
Speaker 1: and I'll be curious to see what what the NFL thinks.
Speaker 1: He's probably going to be the second pick to the
Speaker 1: to the Browns, and I think their biggest need is
Speaker 1: on offense. But you know, well, we'll see where he
Speaker 1: ends up. It's gonna be a fascinating debate. He's also
Speaker 1: one hundred and eighty five pounds. I mean that that
Speaker 1: that matters.
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Speaker 5: by ncu A. Speaking of over to our receivers, I've
Speaker 5: noticed in the mock draft It's going to catch the
Speaker 5: attention of every Packer fan, yeah, or Eddie Packer observer,
Speaker 5: because you you project them as potentially breaking a trend
Speaker 5: and drafting one in the first round, the kid out
Speaker 5: of Texas, Matthew gold and tell us about him because
Speaker 5: he runs really well, right, a sub four three forty.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 1: I realize what projecting a receiver in round one to
Speaker 1: the Packers does for people around there. It either irritates
Speaker 1: the really excites them, right because of the long drought.
Speaker 1: But this is such an interesting year receiver. I don't
Speaker 1: think it has the depth. We've been so blessed with
Speaker 1: receiver greatness the last I would say ten years or
Speaker 1: so in the draft, and maybe eight of those ten
Speaker 1: years we had banner classes at the position, either in
Speaker 1: terms of depth or high end talent or a mixture
Speaker 1: of both. This year I'm not quite there. I mean,
Speaker 1: we have a couple of first round prospects and then
Speaker 1: a couple of borderline guys. I would say Ted McMillan
Speaker 1: from Arizona. I know that, you know, Brian Gudokun was
Speaker 1: out there for his workout. Other people were as well,
Speaker 1: and then Matthew Golden from Texas and you know, Golden's
Speaker 1: required a little bit of a you know, I think
Speaker 1: people have come around on him in the sense that
Speaker 1: he didn't start the years the longhorns number one receiver.
Speaker 1: He didn't really you know, he was a deep threat
Speaker 1: at Houston before he got there, but still didn't really
Speaker 1: kind of solidify himself as a go to target. And
Speaker 1: I would say until the second half of last season. Now,
Speaker 1: that doesn't mean he can't be great. You run a
Speaker 1: four two nine and you catch the ball with as
Speaker 1: much consistency as he does, and I think you're starting
Speaker 1: in a really good place. So not the biggest guy,
Speaker 1: he would also probably buck some trends from a size standpoint.
Speaker 1: I know Jayden Reid obviously wasn't exactly that either. But
Speaker 1: you know, the closest thing if you're worried about Christian
Speaker 1: Watson's health long term or his development, whatever you want
Speaker 1: to say that this is probably the closest thing in
Speaker 1: this draft to that. I understand. The lack of length
Speaker 1: is going to have people say, well, he's not the
Speaker 1: same player. He's not, but he can stretch the field.
Speaker 1: He really doesn't play small. I think that's one of
Speaker 1: the best things about him. And the other cool thing
Speaker 1: is that I fail able to feel like he's a
Speaker 1: hidden gem because Texas didn't really exploit that speed as
Speaker 1: much as they probably could have quarterback issues, you know,
Speaker 1: offensive design whatever, you know. When they did throw it
Speaker 1: to him deep, he usually caught it and made a
Speaker 1: big play, but they didn't do it very often. I
Speaker 1: think an NFL team will, we'll try to use that
Speaker 1: more often than Texas did.
Speaker 3: Eric, Just to get back to what you were saying,
Speaker 3: you know, on Travis Hutter. The thing about I would
Speaker 3: worry about in playing two ways in the NFL is
Speaker 3: the preparation during this Oh yeah, I mean you don't
Speaker 3: have enough hours to prepare as a wide receiver and
Speaker 3: as a cornerback. But you know, can you do a
Speaker 3: little bit of both. Yeah, you could probably settle on
Speaker 3: one position and then be a guy they bring in
Speaker 3: on occasion on offense. The other factor the teams that
Speaker 3: I'm hearing is that, well, if you're going to pick
Speaker 3: him that high in the draft, you want him to
Speaker 3: affect the game the ball in his hands, Where is
Speaker 3: that going to happen more. It's going to happen more
Speaker 3: on offense where you can actually throw him the ball
Speaker 3: rather than relying on him to make an interception or
Speaker 3: something like that. On defense. The other thing on these receivers,
Speaker 3: Matthew Golden, Yes, the rare speed four two nine in
Speaker 3: the forties. What he ran, he's a little bit undersize.
Speaker 3: The Packers like their receivers a little taller. Golden's around
Speaker 3: what five ten five eleven, right around five to eleven.
Speaker 3: But Ted McMillan, Ted de Roa McMillan, the kid out
Speaker 3: of Arizona, Goudokuns was the only general manager at his
Speaker 3: private workout. This is a guy six y four in
Speaker 3: an eighth. Not the speed that the Christian Watson brings
Speaker 3: or that Matt Golden brings, but again, very productive and
Speaker 3: tall receiver, and he has enough speed, I mean four
Speaker 3: four eight that's not bad. But he's six' four two.
Speaker 3: Nineteen that's AN Nfc north outdoors.
Speaker 1: Receiver, yeah absolutely that from a body type, standpoint he
Speaker 1: absolutely fits more of what The packers have sought under
Speaker 1: this regime and even under prior ones for that. Matter but,
Speaker 1: YEAH i mean we're talking about a guy who you,
Speaker 1: know looks like a volleyball player out, there and so
Speaker 1: the comparisons To Drake, London who's who's carved out a
Speaker 1: nice little careers for at few years In, ATLANTA i
Speaker 1: think are pretty. APT i think that's a pretty good
Speaker 1: comp for him in terms of what you're. Expecting fifty
Speaker 1: to fifty balls go up and get. It really has nice,
Speaker 1: extension great body, control good along the. Sidelines you, know
Speaker 1: you can go back and watch some pretty good tape
Speaker 1: against him the prior season Against Travis hunter and got
Speaker 1: the best of them a couple of. TIMES i was impressive.
Speaker 1: STUFF i, mean he's at that. Size you don't need to.
Speaker 4: Be a low four fours or high four three.
Speaker 1: Guy if you, are if You're Calvin, johnson god bless,
Speaker 1: you you're a. Unicorn but for his, SIZE i, Mean
Speaker 1: Mike evans has made a career out of running four
Speaker 1: fives and four six's and then pretty well for. Himself
Speaker 1: so he absolutely fits what they're looking. For does he
Speaker 1: get there to The packers? Pick that's the. Question when
Speaker 1: does the first receiver go off the. Board some people
Speaker 1: think it may not be until you know the twentieth
Speaker 1: or so. Pick some people Think dallas at twelve could
Speaker 1: be a team to. Watch so you, know we'll see
Speaker 1: what THE nfl actually thinks of these wide receivers and
Speaker 1: especially the top two guys in terms of where they
Speaker 1: first go off the.
Speaker 3: Board, MAN i wanted to ask you because you've seen.
Speaker 3: Him mecca AT buka is a guy, That, YEAH i
Speaker 3: don't know how you feel about, This, eric but he
Speaker 3: kind of gets lost in the pantheon of all the
Speaker 3: great Receivers Ohio state has had in the last four
Speaker 3: or five. Years but he has the best. NUMBERS i,
Speaker 3: MEAN i think he's the all time leading receiver In.
Speaker 3: Columbus some people say he's a slot. GUY i don't.
Speaker 3: Know what did you see when you saw him this past? Fall?
Speaker 5: Man you know what this? Was the wis contented Play
Speaker 5: Ohio state this. Year they played him in twenty three
Speaker 5: and he missed a good chunk at twenty three he
Speaker 5: was banged. Up but for the college, level they've had
Speaker 5: an embarrassment of riches at wide, receiver but A mecca Of.
Speaker 5: BUGA i mean at the college, LEVEL i thought it
Speaker 5: was just. Terrific what do you have eighty eighty one
Speaker 5: catches last year better than a thousand. Yards it seems
Speaker 5: like he can Do And i'll Get eric's thoughts on,
Speaker 5: this and seems like he can do a little bit
Speaker 5: of just about everything absolutely Be does he have all the?
Speaker 5: MEASURABLES i guess that's for those guys to figure. Out
Speaker 5: but you like. Him it sounds Like.
Speaker 4: Eric, YEAH i.
Speaker 1: DO i, think just a real rock solid wide. RECEIVER i,
Speaker 1: MEAN i think he's destined to be somebody's terrific number.
Speaker 1: TWO i don't know that he'll ever be a true
Speaker 1: alpha in an. OFFENSE i, MEAN i don't know that
Speaker 1: he has that you, know that rare burst or juice or.
Speaker 1: ANYTHING i, mean his size is very, good very acceptable
Speaker 1: BY nfl, standards but not somebody who is blowing by
Speaker 1: people or making these sort of outrageous. Catches BUT i you,
Speaker 1: know he's great in the red. Zone he's been very
Speaker 1: effective in that part of the. Field seems extremely smart
Speaker 1: and savvy in terms of his route running and setting defenders,
Speaker 1: up and you can, see you, know it's fun to
Speaker 1: watch a game. Against you, know by the fourth, quarter
Speaker 1: it feels like he's got everybody figured out and he's
Speaker 1: he's sort of got the game mapped. Out whether he
Speaker 1: gets the ball or, not that depends on the. Quarterback
Speaker 1: but you, know to think about all the great Receivers
Speaker 1: O lave And Marvin harrison, junior and the list goes.
Speaker 1: ON i, mean for him to be at the top
Speaker 1: of the list production, wise even after missing a chunk
Speaker 1: of his junior years is really darn. Impressive didn't even
Speaker 1: do a lot his freshman, year so you, know he
Speaker 1: had two kind of monster seasons from a production. Standpoint,
Speaker 1: again it may not be one had that one, superpower
Speaker 1: may not be truly special in any one, way BUT
Speaker 1: i think as far as weaknesses, goes he may have
Speaker 1: the fewest questions among the top four or five. Receivers
Speaker 1: so if you told me he was gonna end up
Speaker 1: being a late first round, pick it would not shock
Speaker 1: me at. All maybe twenties to forties, OVERALL i think
Speaker 1: is where he's going to, go and slot could be
Speaker 1: possible outside part, time very very quarterback friendly.
Speaker 4: RECEIVER i would.
Speaker 5: Say it seems like too from the Way i've heard
Speaker 5: it over the course of, time is that their position coach,
Speaker 5: There Brian, hargline has really really carved out a heck
Speaker 5: of a. REPUTATION i, mean they have this there's a
Speaker 5: lot of skill that goes into that building down, there
Speaker 5: but they develop them really well at least that's WHAT i. Hear,
Speaker 5: eric do you hear About, yeah same.
Speaker 4: Thing Absolutely hardline's got a terrific.
Speaker 1: Reputation one of the few position COACHES i follow On,
Speaker 1: TWITTER i racks or whatever call it these. Days but,
Speaker 1: YEAH i mean he's you, know he was a guy
Speaker 1: who made it on precision and hard, work AND i
Speaker 1: mean he wasn't blessed when he was a player with
Speaker 1: all that, Skill SO i mean he really kind of
Speaker 1: mastered all the fine points of playing wide receiver inside,
Speaker 1: out did whatever had or do to get on the.
Speaker 1: Field AND i think he's imbuing that honest players now
Speaker 1: and it's great to. SEE i think he'll probably be
Speaker 1: a head coach on the college level at some.
Speaker 3: Point we're running out of time With eric at. HOME
Speaker 3: Nfl Network draft analyst tight ends a couple Of it's
Speaker 3: supposed to be a great year for tight. Ends Tyler
Speaker 3: warren could go in the first. Round Colston Loveland warren will.
Speaker 3: Go Colston, loveland the tight end out Of, michigan probably
Speaker 3: goes in the first. Round Mason, taylor son Of Jason,
Speaker 3: taylor The hall Of fame defensive end of The, dolphins
Speaker 3: is another prospect that could go as high as round,
Speaker 3: two maybe brown. Three good year for tight, ends isn't.
Speaker 3: IT i.
Speaker 1: Agree you, know you had some breakout guys Like Elijah
Speaker 1: royal From miami had a terrific season with Cam Ward,
Speaker 1: taylor as you, mentioned you KNOW nfl blood, Lines hall
Speaker 1: Of fame, bloodlines you know is. Stepdad Zach thomas also
Speaker 1: got some pretty good people in his. Circle but you
Speaker 1: know we're talking about a kid who's not even twenty
Speaker 1: one years. Old that's the beautiful. Thing another the age
Speaker 1: factor also. Helps Harold fanning From Bowling green.
Speaker 4: Is a guy who could go in the middle.
Speaker 1: Rounds he's another sub twenty one year, old and the
Speaker 1: analytics people love the age AND i think they love
Speaker 1: the athleticism of this. Group warren is more of your
Speaker 1: grong style physical tight, end but he can also. Run
Speaker 1: that's you, know as good a template as we've seen
Speaker 1: in a. While, LOVELAND i, think is a, smoother, quicker
Speaker 1: better receiver. Overall maybe not in the blocking, department but
Speaker 1: once he's got the shoulder rehab, done which should be
Speaker 1: sometime around training, camp you know you're gonna see somebody
Speaker 1: who all you got to do is Watch michigan. Quarterbacks last,
Speaker 1: year and for him to catch as many passes as
Speaker 1: he did and twice as many as anybody else on
Speaker 1: the field or on the, TEAM i should say it
Speaker 1: shows that even when he's the focus of, attention he can.
Speaker 1: SEPARATE i Love Taylor Terrence ferguson From. OREGON i think
Speaker 1: is a really undersold athlete to really undersold play a
Speaker 1: very steady production in the last several. Years Rode gatson remember.
Speaker 1: Him his dad was a receiver for The. DOLPHINS i
Speaker 1: JUST i like there's enough blockers later in the. Draft
Speaker 1: there's some good depth that at this position THAT i
Speaker 1: don't think we've.
Speaker 4: Seen we could end up.
Speaker 1: Having you, know seventeen or twenty, drafted which is a
Speaker 1: pretty good, crop and there's a wide variety of different play.
Speaker 5: Styles, Well i've had a question you mentioned it looks
Speaker 5: like the running back is starting to return to at
Speaker 5: least probably it'll never be what it once was in
Speaker 5: terms of, PROMINENCE i, guess but it looks like it's
Speaker 5: trending that. Way you really Like Ashton. Genty it may
Speaker 5: he may not be waiting very long to hear his name, called.
Speaker 4: It doesn't seem like.
Speaker 1: IT i you, know the first spot THAT i think
Speaker 1: he could go off the board. REALISTICALLY i mean maybe
Speaker 1: there's a trade up or. Something you don't see trade
Speaker 1: ups for running backs in the top five or six,
Speaker 1: picks But vegas at number six feels like the first
Speaker 1: spot where he really could go off the board And
Speaker 1: pete carroll run game makes. Sense some people Think genty
Speaker 1: is like this Generation's Ladenian. Tomlinson Now i'm not quite.
Speaker 1: There and IF i were grading him And Bjon, robinson
Speaker 1: who came out and went number eight a couple of years,
Speaker 1: AGO i honestly THINK i probably would have had a
Speaker 1: slightly higher grade On. ROBINSON i just think he has
Speaker 1: just a little bit more, size a little bit MORE
Speaker 1: i shouldn't say receiving, ability because last year they didn't
Speaker 1: throw him the ball as. Much genty was really good
Speaker 1: catching the football in twenty twenty. Three it's just that
Speaker 1: he had, a you, know a generational year of running
Speaker 1: the football last. Season so terrific, contact, balanced great yards after,
Speaker 1: contact kind of a little bowling ball out, there with outstanding,
Speaker 1: vision lateral, quickness create activity as a, runner everything you.
Speaker 1: Want because he have that pull away. Gear probably, not
Speaker 1: but when does that really come into play for running?
Speaker 1: BACKS i don't think very, often so you, know he
Speaker 1: took on a lot as a pass blocker. Too that's
Speaker 1: the one thing THAT i you, know he's still got
Speaker 1: to clean some of it, up but they asked him
Speaker 1: to do. It they kept him on the, field you,
Speaker 1: know seventy snaps a, game and he did a pretty
Speaker 1: target job of. It so somewhere in that that six
Speaker 1: to twelve, RANGE i think is where he ends up
Speaker 1: going off the.
Speaker 3: Board offensive, line we've generally seen better prospects on the
Speaker 3: interior than the outside of the offensive. Line the tackles
Speaker 3: maybe not a strong class this. Year we haven't even talked, Defense,
Speaker 3: eric AND i know you've got a head, out but really,
Speaker 3: quick give us some nuggets on defense that you've seen of.
Speaker 3: GUYS i mean to have Duel carter and some of
Speaker 3: these other guys who be able to make an impression
Speaker 3: and maybe go high in the first round of this.
Speaker 1: Draft, YEAH i Mean, carter you, know at one point
Speaker 1: he thought could be the number one. Pick you, know
Speaker 1: maybe he ends up going third, now but still potentially
Speaker 1: destructive defensive, talent some fascinating pass rush talents Like Jalen
Speaker 1: walker From georgia's more of a linebacker build similar to
Speaker 1: guys Like James pierce and a few. Others but you,
Speaker 1: know you have some three four end types in this.
Speaker 1: Class you have some true down hand in the dirt
Speaker 1: four to three ends like The Ohio state. Guys you
Speaker 1: have some in betweeners and that's. Okay you, know tweeners
Speaker 1: aren't a bad. Dan it's not a, SLUR i, promise
Speaker 1: but a lot of, versatility AND i think we're gonna
Speaker 1: end up getting somewhere around twenty edge type players in
Speaker 1: the first one hundred hundred and ten.
Speaker 4: Selections that's a.
Speaker 1: LOT i, mean that really is defensive line interior. Guys
Speaker 1: maybe not quite as, stout but really it is a
Speaker 1: very solid group. THERE i think linebacker and safety are
Speaker 1: probably your weakest positions in this draft, defensively but. Corner
Speaker 1: there are some really interesting talents. Safety we could see
Speaker 1: a couple go off in the first round and maybe
Speaker 1: a couple more early In day. Two so respectable at the,
Speaker 1: top but just maybe lacking a little bit in depth.
Speaker 1: OVERALL i would still say that even with the running
Speaker 1: back talent and the wide receiver excuse, me the tight end,
Speaker 1: talent my favorite position in this draft is probably And i'm, cheating,
Speaker 1: maybe but lumping the edge rushers and d lineman together
Speaker 1: because a lot of those guys can do multiple things
Speaker 1: and kind of move up and down the line different.
Speaker 1: Techniques that's probably my favorite position in this. Draft from
Speaker 1: From Abdul carter all the way down To Sybyon, jones
Speaker 1: my number one hundred player overall in my top one hundred,
Speaker 1: list and even beyond, THAT i think there's.
Speaker 3: Talent eric can't thank you, enough appreciate.
Speaker 1: It thanks for all, right enjoyed the. Draft Hope Green
Speaker 1: bay is a great. House and hope you guys hope
Speaker 1: it's a wide. RECEIVER i don't. KNOW i Hope Green
Speaker 1: bay fans are.
Speaker 5: Happy, Well, WAITE i did something On sunday THAT i rarely.
Speaker 4: DO i.
Speaker 5: Know you are a golf. Officionado you're you, know a
Speaker 5: single digit. Handicap once you get back into the. Rhythm you,
Speaker 5: know for, me a good day is when it's under one.
Speaker 5: Hundred BUT i watched the final round of The, masters
Speaker 5: AND i have to admit the theater was just. Outstanding you,
Speaker 5: Know i'm bouncing back and forth watching The brewers. Dive
Speaker 5: it backs a little, bit but it just the scenery
Speaker 5: Of augusta and the sheer, drama and what was what
Speaker 5: caught me was the. DIFFERENCE i thought it was going
Speaker 5: to Be rory And bryson and it, wasn't As De
Speaker 5: shamba faded and McElroy had the roller coaster final. Round
Speaker 5: but that's about as good as it, gets no matter
Speaker 5: if you're a And i'm a very casual fan of.
Speaker 5: Golf but that's about as good as it, gets no
Speaker 5: matter of the, sport isn't.
Speaker 3: It it is no question about, it just the you,
Speaker 3: know the stakes that. Were you, know Here's rory. McElroy
Speaker 3: he's won three the three other majors over a decade,
Speaker 3: ago hasn't won a major in almost what ten eleven
Speaker 3: years and this is his eleventh try At augusta to
Speaker 3: get that final major in to become one of only
Speaker 3: six players who have won in their careers each of
Speaker 3: the major golf, tournaments The, MASTER'S Us, open The, open
Speaker 3: or The British open as we In america call. It
Speaker 3: they call it The open In, europe and then THE,
Speaker 3: pga the least of the. Four but, anyway he had
Speaker 3: won the three and The, masters he just couldn't quite
Speaker 3: get over the. Hump and it was tremendous. Theater so
Speaker 3: you Had rory McElroy and golf is. Suffering, Matt you're
Speaker 3: not the only one not watching golf on a regular.
Speaker 3: Basis you check into a golf, tournament, folks even if
Speaker 3: you're a, golfer and on any given week you might
Speaker 3: be able to get one or two names off the
Speaker 3: leader board that you actually are familiar, with maybe one
Speaker 3: or two the guys who drive the. NEEDLE i, Mean
Speaker 3: Tiger woods is, gone, okay you, Know rory McElroy is
Speaker 3: one of those. Guys Steven Yottie scheffler can win one
Speaker 3: hundred tournaments and he's, never for whatever, reason going to
Speaker 3: move the. Dial But rory. Can bryson De shambo is
Speaker 3: one of those guys who. Can't and here they are
Speaker 3: a top the leaderboard going Into sunday At. Augusta and
Speaker 3: it was great, theater and and the other thing about
Speaker 3: it WAS cbs was doing the. Tournament AND i THINK
Speaker 3: cbs is probably the most solid golf coverage and has
Speaker 3: been for many decades in. Television And jim nance is
Speaker 3: and you AND I i think both admire him in
Speaker 3: terms of our. BUSINESS i, think more than anything, else
Speaker 3: the thing That nance does is and we've seen a
Speaker 3: departure from this on television in recent. Years people want
Speaker 3: it seems like producers want guys screaming on television the
Speaker 3: way you would have to scream to describe something on,
Speaker 3: radio and it just doesn't. Work nance is the epitome
Speaker 3: of frame the, picture frame the picture we see, it
Speaker 3: give us something around that picture to put a frame
Speaker 3: on what we just. Saw and that's what he does
Speaker 3: better than. Anyone golf is far and away his best
Speaker 3: sport in my. Opinion he's a good play by play
Speaker 3: announcer and other, sports basketball and, football but he's a
Speaker 3: great eighteenth tower announcer the way he puts things into.
Speaker 3: Perspective and how about the end of that tournament When
Speaker 3: rory McElroy finally Won. MADDEN i think in some one
Speaker 3: of our colleagues at the flagship station for The packers
Speaker 3: ninety seven to three of the, Game Steve zabin apparently
Speaker 3: timed the layout That nance had at the end of
Speaker 3: that tournament When rory finally sunk the pot of the
Speaker 3: seventy third hole and he made his exclamation and then
Speaker 3: there was like seven minutes of just you saw, pictures
Speaker 3: you heard the. Crowd you Saw rory on his. Knees
Speaker 3: it was, Riveting it really.
Speaker 5: Was, yeah EVEN i posted a lot of times the
Speaker 5: best announcing can be when we say, Nothing and obviously
Speaker 5: that applies for television radio you lay out a little,
Speaker 5: bit but it's a different. Platform for, television those saying
Speaker 5: nothing can be the best. Thing AND i, thought AND
Speaker 5: i agree with. YOU i Think Jim nantz was born
Speaker 5: to cal. Golf he played it collegiately At, houston and
Speaker 5: he just he's born to do. That and he can
Speaker 5: tell the story of the, players and not that others,
Speaker 5: can't because they can't if it's Like jerico ON nbc
Speaker 5: and all those years prior TO, espn so on and so,
Speaker 5: forth but their their camera. WORK i just thought the
Speaker 5: production of it was so. Good you Never I've i've
Speaker 5: never been To, augusta but those who, have they talk
Speaker 5: about the, terrain and you, know television can only do
Speaker 5: it so much. Justice BUT i think as the technology
Speaker 5: continues to get better and, Better i'm sitting on my
Speaker 5: couch and then you get a feel for how how
Speaker 5: difficult the course, is how challenging that the course, is and, uh,
Speaker 5: yeah the fact that That i've always thought in No
Speaker 5: matter or the sport on television sometimes most of the,
Speaker 5: time less is. MORE i always think Of Vin scully
Speaker 5: In Great World series, moments you, Know Kirk, gibson the
Speaker 5: walk off against The Oakland a's where he said nothing
Speaker 5: after called up the whole run it's gone and just
Speaker 5: they Track gibson circle on the. Bases AND i, thought
Speaker 5: yesterday Or sunday With roy, McElroy it Didn't you didn't
Speaker 5: even need to give the, caption you just lay out
Speaker 5: for as long as they had timed. IT i just
Speaker 5: thought it Was it was brilliant by saying, nothing.
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah no question about, it and you, know, yeah
Speaker 3: the journey And rory's a likable. Guy i've never met.
Speaker 3: HIM i don't know what he's like in real. LIFE
Speaker 3: i assume he's what he appears to. Be he seems
Speaker 3: like a really genuine. Person you could tell by the
Speaker 3: way he handles interviews and things like. That he seemed
Speaker 3: to be really, genuine you, know so people were really
Speaker 3: pulling for. Him but then There's bryson To. Shambo and
Speaker 3: if you're you, know of the younger, generation you're probably
Speaker 3: Into bryce of The. SHAMBO i, mean here's this guy
Speaker 3: who five years ago pumped himself up like a like
Speaker 3: a nose tackle one technique or. Whatever somebody was asking
Speaker 3: me about two technique earlier. Today what the hell is
Speaker 3: a two? Technique i've heard of one technique as your nose,
Speaker 3: tackle three techniques outside of the right shoulder of the,
Speaker 3: guards and then you go from there two. Techniques who
Speaker 3: the hell isn't you? Know come? On but, anyway he's
Speaker 3: a one technique and he's hitting the ball over these,
Speaker 3: lakes Not Bond's, lakes to the other side of the
Speaker 3: fairway and cutting. Off but you, know so he was
Speaker 3: this bigger than life character and then he went to
Speaker 3: live golf and he slimmed down and he's you, know
Speaker 3: these one, major's he's won two of. Them and so
Speaker 3: he is a guy who can kind of move the.
Speaker 3: Needle and, again AS i, mentioned nothing Against Scotty, scheffler
Speaker 3: but for whatever, reason he's a, great great player in
Speaker 3: the number one of the. World but he does not
Speaker 3: move the needle the way these other guys, do the
Speaker 3: Way Tiger woods did back in the go back of
Speaker 3: the day To Jack. Nicholason but that masters was. Riveting
Speaker 3: and the, thing you, know here's an interesting. Thing if
Speaker 3: you're a golfer And i'm a bad, golfer you said Single,
Speaker 3: NO i will never be a single digit player. Again
Speaker 3: but the thing what can we take, Away, well the
Speaker 3: internet is going to be showing you all these swing
Speaker 3: doctors are gonna be. On, Well rory does, this and
Speaker 3: you can do this again an extra fifty yards Of,
Speaker 3: no you. Can't, okay first, off no you. Can't you
Speaker 3: cannot duplicate his. Swing he's five to. Eight he was
Speaker 3: made to hit the golf ball three hundred and seventy. Yards.
Speaker 3: Okay god made him that. Way god didn't make you
Speaker 3: or me that. Way, okay, Fine but what you can
Speaker 3: take is something that happens to all of, us no
Speaker 3: matter our skill, level on the golf, course and that is.
Speaker 3: Poise and that is, toughness mental, toughness not physical. TOUGHNESS
Speaker 3: i watched that whole, Tournament. Matt what amazed me about
Speaker 3: that tournament was This rory comes in AND i, Thought
Speaker 3: who's gonna win The?
Speaker 4: Masters?
Speaker 3: What because he's in? Form golf is a game of.
Speaker 3: Form are you in? Form are you playing well going?
Speaker 3: In and that doesn't mean you're gonna play, well but
Speaker 3: it gives you a much better. Chance he had won,
Speaker 3: twice he'd won the players his last time, OUT i
Speaker 3: believe it. Was so now he goes To, augusta and
Speaker 3: you know he's playing, well and he comes out On.
Speaker 3: Thursday he's four under parr going to what FOURTEEN i
Speaker 3: want to, say or sixty and he doubles two of
Speaker 3: the last like four, holes and all of a, sudden
Speaker 3: he's even par going in around, two and you're, figuring, oh,
Speaker 3: man if that were, me or that were anyone, else
Speaker 3: or ninety nine percent of the golfers pro or, otherwise
Speaker 3: they'd be trashed. Mentally and he's been working with the golf,
Speaker 3: Doctor Bob, rotella and he's written many books about Golf
Speaker 3: Is not A game Of perfect being one of them
Speaker 3: that was A New York times. Bestseller it'll probably be
Speaker 3: again this. Week but he's been working with that. Guy
Speaker 3: and so the next day he comes, out you sixty,
Speaker 3: six and the following day he takes the lead the.
Speaker 3: Tournament and now you're going into the final. Round he's
Speaker 3: got a two shot, lead and you you, fit, well
Speaker 3: this guy's it's gonna be a cake. Walk and he
Speaker 3: comes OUT i think he doubled the first, hole he
Speaker 3: loses the lead to one, Hole bryson To shamba takes,
Speaker 3: it takes the lead with a birdie on hold number,
Speaker 3: two and all of a sudden you look At rory
Speaker 3: and you, say this is. Melting this guy's got to be.
Speaker 3: Melting and then three holes later he's back in the.
Speaker 3: Lead then he's got a four shot. Lead then he
Speaker 3: loses all of, that and then Justin rose down the
Speaker 3: stretch Past amen, corner he's got the lead and you're,
Speaker 3: saying what In god's name is going? On and where Is?
Speaker 3: Rory and here he gets back in, there he gets
Speaker 3: the thing. Tied he's got a putt to win on
Speaker 3: the seventy second. Hole this is all set. UP i,
Speaker 3: mean if this Is, hollywood that putt is in the
Speaker 3: heart of the cup and he misses the. Putt he
Speaker 3: hit it too, soft it pulled a little bit to the.
Speaker 3: Left now you got a, playoff you. Know i'm Sure
Speaker 3: bryson De shamba say this is. GREAT i got a
Speaker 3: shot to win The. Masters And, rory if You're, rory
Speaker 3: you'll probably, say you MEAN i blew it and one
Speaker 3: of oh my, god you, know and here he goes
Speaker 3: out and what does he. Do he hits a three
Speaker 3: hundred and seventy five yard drive on, eighteen he hits
Speaker 3: whatever it, was nine, iron eight iron to within four
Speaker 3: feet and makes the. PUTT i, mean just unbelievable mental
Speaker 3: toughness that you don't see even on that. Level that is,
Speaker 3: rare even on that level of.
Speaker 5: Golf NO i. HEARD i Heard Scott Van pelt on
Speaker 5: another program describing that. Too if you look at that
Speaker 5: that his Uh rory's card On, sunday if you just
Speaker 5: looked at the, card it probably wouldn't, think, oh this
Speaker 5: guy just won The, masters because he had some of
Speaker 5: the best shots and some of the worst, shots maybe
Speaker 5: of his, career all in one, route maybe the back
Speaker 5: nine of the final. Round but that's that's what added
Speaker 5: to the. Drama AND i think Two, wayne you talk
Speaker 5: about guys who moved the. NEEDLE i think you know
Speaker 5: casual viewers or those of maybe who are past casual
Speaker 5: and are more in tune to to. Golf you have
Speaker 5: you choose your good, guy and you choose your bad.
Speaker 5: Guy you, Know bryce and the shamba is probably will
Speaker 5: polarizing you some and there are others who love. THEM
Speaker 5: i love watching him because he's going to explode on
Speaker 5: the golf, ball, Right he's, Going he's going to hit
Speaker 5: it nine. Miles but there's you, know you got some personalities.
Speaker 5: There and you can say the same thing about. Tennis
Speaker 5: you could say the same thing about teams in you,
Speaker 5: know THE, nfl THE. Nba there are teams that you
Speaker 5: just you want to see him. Loose AND i, think you,
Speaker 5: know if golf hads this, again you know somebody that
Speaker 5: you can knock. Off you, know some king of the
Speaker 5: hill you can knock off the hill that goes a long.
Speaker 5: Way no one questions the. Talent there's unbelievable, talent but those,
Speaker 5: guys you, Know i've talked with more people the last few.
Speaker 5: Days you have some who were rooting like crazy For
Speaker 5: rory and others who just wanted to see a dumpster.
Speaker 5: Fire and for a while it looked like they were
Speaker 5: going to get. It but to your, Point i'm the
Speaker 5: kind of guy who would yank a two foot putt
Speaker 5: when there's five dollars in the, backs you. Know trying
Speaker 5: to put myself in there with the you, know millions
Speaker 5: watching and the, GALLERY i just can't.
Speaker 3: Relate, yeah and you, Know, matt it's amazing because at
Speaker 3: every country. Club at every club there is somebody who
Speaker 3: can go out and shoot sixty eight and just you,
Speaker 3: know absolutely look. Flawless but the difference between them and
Speaker 3: the guys who make THE pga tour are can you
Speaker 3: go out and shoot sixty eight On? Thursday and what
Speaker 3: do you come back with the next? Day are you
Speaker 3: shooting seventy, eight are you shooting seventy, five or are
Speaker 3: you shooting sixty? Six and that's what those guys. Do
Speaker 3: and you know they have their ups and downs. Too
Speaker 3: their swings are just our swings are like way out.
Speaker 3: Here it's both five hundred feet. Difference there's a maybe
Speaker 3: within twelve, inches but they have their ups and downs
Speaker 3: and how they handle it is is. Huge the, PERSONALITIES i.
Speaker 3: Think you, know we are looking for sports as. Entertainment
Speaker 3: golf is no. Different we Had tiger And phil remember
Speaker 3: about twenty years, ago.
Speaker 4: And that was great.
Speaker 3: Theater they tee it up at every major and you were,
Speaker 3: Watching you were watching and hoping they both contend and
Speaker 3: they'd both be going at, it and you, thought, well
Speaker 3: they don't like each. Other and some people Like phil
Speaker 3: and some people Like tiger and et, cetera et, cetera and,
Speaker 3: so but you were there to. Watch we don't have
Speaker 3: those rivalries right, now and maybe this was one of.
Speaker 3: Them maybe this is what we're going to see going.
Speaker 3: Forward but you, KNOW i just think. It it was great.
Speaker 3: Theater it had everything you. Wanted i'm sure the rating
Speaker 3: is going to be really, good But i'll be honest with,
Speaker 3: you golf is hurting the ratings week to. Week you
Speaker 3: tune on The volerro text is open and you'll get
Speaker 3: a leader board and, say.
Speaker 4: Who are these?
Speaker 3: Guys do their parents even know who they? Are they
Speaker 3: probably don't know where they, are you, know because that's
Speaker 3: pro golf. Today and why is? That, well because you
Speaker 3: have hundreds of guys any given a week can win
Speaker 3: a pro golf. Tournament why because the talent is that
Speaker 3: good and that. Deep but that doesn't make for riveting.
Speaker 3: Viewership that doesn't that doesn't move the. Needle and so's
Speaker 3: it was. INTERESTING i think a rare moment for. GOLF
Speaker 3: A cbs handled it really, well AND i can only
Speaker 3: imagine in the. Truck i'll bet you, THIS i would
Speaker 3: if we Had jim nance. On you, KNOW i know
Speaker 3: that if the Late Frank cherkinnian was running that. Show the,
Speaker 3: producer the great golf. Producer he would have been the
Speaker 3: first thing he would have yelled At Jim nantz was shut,
Speaker 3: up just be. Quiet you. KNOW i bet you no
Speaker 3: one had to do that Yesterday sunday At. AUGUSTA i
Speaker 3: bet You jim nance handled that whole thing. Himself he
Speaker 3: understands the moment and what's going on and the whole,
Speaker 3: thing and just as does a brilliant, job as good
Speaker 3: as it. Gets you're exactly right About Mike. Tarikole and
Speaker 3: by the, way he was doing radio On The Master's
Speaker 3: sunday and did a tremendous. Job his call was obviously
Speaker 3: had to be a little more. Wordy you're talking about radio.
Speaker 3: Here it's a different, medium as you. Said but those
Speaker 3: are two of the best of the business at, golf
Speaker 3: they really. Are and you, Know tarico's as good as
Speaker 3: it gets at the eighteenth hole with anybody. Else Dan
Speaker 3: hicks is another one AT Nbc. SPORTS i don't GET
Speaker 3: nbc because all, right they haven't Replaced Johnny. Miller Johnny
Speaker 3: miller was worth listening to why because he would say
Speaker 3: something that was like he would say what you were, Thinking,
Speaker 3: yeah there's not much of this PUTT i always say
Speaker 3: that when somebody asked me a putt out of the
Speaker 3: degree we're. Playing my buddy asked, me what do you
Speaker 3: think of this? Putt, said, yeah Like johnny would, say
Speaker 3: not much of this. Putt but Then johnny's not making the,
Speaker 3: putt is? He But johnny was always you, know he'd
Speaker 3: always rip, somebody so you're always looking for. That and
Speaker 3: so they get rid of him and they point to
Speaker 3: bring In. Paul he's. Here it does a nice, job
Speaker 3: but apparently he's got some, issues and they get rid
Speaker 3: of him and they hire a GUY i don't even know.
Speaker 3: Who They kissner or something like. That he sounds exactly Like,
Speaker 3: zinger exactly LIKE. Keivi And i'm sitting in, WELL nbc
Speaker 3: has just lost and they are BUT cbs does a
Speaker 3: great job with. Golf it always has and they are
Speaker 3: the foremost network now and in that. Business but just
Speaker 3: great stuff for. Golf, yeah it, was, no it.
Speaker 5: Was i'll it be interesting to watch now moving forward
Speaker 5: to the other, majors you.
Speaker 4: Know will this have?
Speaker 5: Legs will people tune? In you, know they want to
Speaker 5: see these guys have at it again On? Sunday but
Speaker 5: that that's what this past weekend was it was Terrific.
Speaker 5: Sunday that was as much AS i would have preferred
Speaker 5: to be outside doing, Stuff i've got to watch, this
Speaker 5: And i'm GLAD i did because it. Was it was
Speaker 5: terrific theater and it was very very well ON.
Speaker 3: Cbs, yeah it really. Was you, know the last point on,
Speaker 3: this the two personalities couldn't be. Different after the, TOURNAMENT i,
Speaker 3: guess you. Know first, Off bryce and he leaves the
Speaker 3: eighteenth green On. Saturday he's just sunk a big. Putt
Speaker 3: he's now right, there he's like two shot off the,
Speaker 3: lead and he's going. Up there's this kind of column
Speaker 3: that they go to to the clubhouse to turn in
Speaker 3: their scorecard and sign it off and, everything and just
Speaker 3: people all. Around And i've been To, augustin so it's
Speaker 3: a corridor of. People Here's bryce and the shamba and
Speaker 3: he's waving high fives and and EVERY i mean touching
Speaker 3: ba people and handing the ball to a kid and
Speaker 3: all this Other you just love. It you're soaking. It
Speaker 3: and he's riding high and and he's the man of
Speaker 3: the people and all this other. Stuff and then there's
Speaker 3: an interview With rory McElroy And amanda down The onus asked,
Speaker 3: him you, know how will you approach tomorrow and, said,
Speaker 3: Well i'm going to get into my own cocoon and everything.
Speaker 3: Else and and a couple of minutes, later she's Interviewing
Speaker 3: bryce To shamba And bryce's she, asked do you take
Speaker 3: energy from the? Crowd? Oh absolutely. This they couldn't be
Speaker 3: two more different. Personalities so after the round On, sunday
Speaker 3: after the tournament's over and And bryson kind of imploded
Speaker 3: and no question about, it had a tough, round but you,
Speaker 3: know somebody asked, him, well how Was, RORY i, mean
Speaker 3: how was it playing with?
Speaker 5: It?
Speaker 3: Oh he didn't say anything to, Me and it's kind of, like,
Speaker 3: well you should have said. Something but it's kind of
Speaker 3: like that made sense to me Because rory, Said i'm
Speaker 3: just gonna get into my own little cocoon and stay.
Speaker 3: There i'm going to block out all this other noise
Speaker 3: that's going on around me and try to stay in the.
Speaker 3: Moment and that's what he was doing out, there And
Speaker 3: bryson's a totally different, personality didn't quite buy off on.
Speaker 5: That and that's why it, Works LIKE i personally couldn't
Speaker 5: care less if those two talk to each. Other but
Speaker 5: if it helps build, drama if it brings, us if
Speaker 5: it puts us in front of the television set the next,
Speaker 5: time you know their their neck and, Neck, yeah let's tune.
Speaker 5: In look at the fact that their personalities are different
Speaker 5: makes it appealing in personality and play, style all of.
Speaker 5: That so, yeah if hopefully as we move forward this
Speaker 5: spring and, summer they'll they'll be matched up, again AND
Speaker 5: i hope so we'll take it down to the wire
Speaker 5: BECAUSE i THINK i think people will tune.
Speaker 4: In.
Speaker 3: Now that'll do. It, yeah no question about. It that
Speaker 3: takes care of this week for us on the podcast
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