Speaker 1: It's a nice Boston's News Radio.
Speaker 2: Well, I really enjoyed the last hour. I hope you
Speaker 2: did as well. His name is Robert Charles. The book
Speaker 2: is Cherish America. I want to thank Kristin, Nancy, and
Speaker 2: Joe who checked in. I'm sorry that we were kind
Speaker 2: of rushed at the end, but Joe raised is a
Speaker 2: good point, and that is whether or not any book
Speaker 2: that is published should be available for people who are
Speaker 2: cannot read, who are blind. And I think that's that
Speaker 2: can only help the number of books that are available
Speaker 2: to people. And I think I thank Kristin for going
Speaker 2: to the library and asking for the book, and I
Speaker 2: think Nancy who said she had already ordered a book
Speaker 2: from Amazon. So I want to take this hour and
Speaker 2: very seriously consider how lucky we all are to live
Speaker 2: in America. Now. I know, I know that there will
Speaker 2: be some people who accuse me of flag waving. Well
Speaker 2: that's their problem, not mine. Okay, this is not a
Speaker 2: perfect country. Every election hasn't worked out perfectly. From my
Speaker 2: point of view, that's not the point. The point is
Speaker 2: that we are fortunate enough to live in a country
Speaker 2: which allows the freedoms that Franklin Roosevelt talked about that
Speaker 2: we enjoy in this program every night, one of which
Speaker 2: is freedom of speech. Again, I try to give everybody
Speaker 2: an opportunity to say whatever they want to say within reason.
Speaker 2: I mean, I don't want to have you come on
Speaker 2: and use my show to slander other people. If you
Speaker 2: want to argue with me over something, I don't have
Speaker 2: a problem with that at all. I just would like
Speaker 2: you to kind of keep it within some relative discourse,
Speaker 2: decent discourse. But when I think about, how does this
Speaker 2: guy and I don't even want to mention his name
Speaker 2: to be really honest with you, But just like I
Speaker 2: don't want to mention the names of the Boston bombers,
Speaker 2: how does this guy wake up and decide, at the
Speaker 2: age of forty two, after he has been in the
Speaker 2: US military, who's born in this country? Obviously had a
Speaker 2: name that misled people to think that he might have
Speaker 2: been born elsewhere, but born in this country. He was.
Speaker 2: He was as American as you are or as I am.
Speaker 2: But he made it. He took the decision he's going
Speaker 2: to ride a truck down Bourbon Street on New Year's
Speaker 2: Eve or New Year's Morning and just slaughter people. What
Speaker 2: gave him the right to do that. How does your
Speaker 2: mind get so messed up that you even contemplate that. Now,
Speaker 2: I know that he had had some tough breaks in
Speaker 2: his life. I guess divorced two or three times. A
Speaker 2: lot of people have been divorced two or three times.
Speaker 2: A lot of people have been through worse than a divorce.
Speaker 2: People have survived through the deaths of close relatives, you
Speaker 2: know people. I think of the parents in Newtown, Connecticut
Speaker 2: who lost twenty toddlers or children first graders on that
Speaker 2: horrific day, and yet they didn't take to what this
Speaker 2: guy did. So I just say that this is a
Speaker 2: moment we need to sit back and realize how darn
Speaker 2: lucky we are to have been born in this country.
Speaker 2: Whatever our politics, whatever our religion, whatever our gender, whatever
Speaker 2: our sexual proclivity. Okay, whether we're Red Sox or Yankee fans.
Speaker 2: But I just think that that we need to do
Speaker 2: more to protect the country. I talked about it last night.
Speaker 2: I'll be happy to talk about it again. But my
Speaker 2: first hope is that some of you will rise to
Speaker 2: the occasion and uh enjoin me in saying that that
Speaker 2: we have to cherish this country, because if this country
Speaker 2: were ever to go down the drain? Where is where
Speaker 2: do we go? People from around the world have come
Speaker 2: here legally. Of course, some have come here illegally as well.
Speaker 2: I want I prefer people to come legally because they
Speaker 2: lived in dictatorships, they lived underpressive, oppressive regimes. If we
Speaker 2: ever lost this country and the principles of this country,
Speaker 2: where do we go? That's why we need to cherish America.
Speaker 2: So I'm going to open up the phone lines six seven,
Speaker 2: four ten thirty, six one seven, nine thirty. We have
Speaker 2: seen some horrific events in the last few weeks, the
Speaker 2: murder of the healthcare executive in New York City. If
Speaker 2: we ever devolve into into a country where people are
Speaker 2: just shot at because somehow you feel that you got
Speaker 2: screwed by a healthcare company, Okay, there were ways in
Speaker 2: which you can turn this country around. Okay, that's the
Speaker 2: beauties of the country. You have elections, you have venues
Speaker 2: like this, you have the opportunities newspapers to do what
Speaker 2: you can other countries you can't. And just to think
Speaker 2: that that there are people in this country who are
Speaker 2: somehow identifying with the murderer in New York, I guess
Speaker 2: that there's probably people are identifying with the killer from
Speaker 2: Bourbon Street. But if we get to that point, if
Speaker 2: we ever get to that point and we lose this country,
Speaker 2: we will never get it back. It's as simple as that. Okay,
Speaker 2: I'm going to go to phones. Let me go to
Speaker 2: Gary and Wooburn Gary. I have no idea what you're
Speaker 2: going to say. I never do. But welcome to nightside
Speaker 2: and happy New Year, my friend.
Speaker 3: Can you hear me?
Speaker 2: I can hear you loud and clear.
Speaker 4: Obviously what you said was very poetic and so forth.
Speaker 4: And me, let's face it, what's going on in the
Speaker 4: United States happens in our foreign countries all the time.
Speaker 4: What can we do well? Obviously we have to be
Speaker 4: very careful when we go outside, you know, and talking
Speaker 4: about women with their children and so forth. What I'm
Speaker 4: trying to eat and get at is going on at nighttime, Dan,
Speaker 4: I'm sixty one years of age, and let me tell you,
Speaker 4: going on at nighttime is very dangerous. It's just it's
Speaker 4: just that's where a lot of people it's so doc
Speaker 4: out and you can be victimized so easily. And I
Speaker 4: always worry about women who even have their children in
Speaker 4: a car and being abducted. What's the good called car
Speaker 4: what's it called car jackey car jackets?
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, well that's well. Let me just let me
Speaker 2: say this, Let me try to turn this around on
Speaker 2: you if I can't. Okay, we have the freedom in
Speaker 2: this country, uh, to move around anytime we want. There's
Speaker 2: a lot of countries in the world that say, oh no,
Speaker 2: there's a curfew. You have to be in your home
Speaker 2: from seven o'clock at night until six o'clock in the morning. Uh.
Speaker 2: There are countries where freedom to travel doesn't exist, freedom
Speaker 2: to move around, So I need we need to cherish
Speaker 2: that freedom. At the same time, we need to be
Speaker 2: vigilant out there. You're right, when you're out at dark
Speaker 2: at night, it's you're more susceptible perhaps to some form
Speaker 2: of an assault and attack. But at the same time, hopefully, hopefully,
Speaker 2: if people see something like that going on, there will
Speaker 2: be enough people who rise to the occasion and interrupt
Speaker 2: that that sort of crime. Do you know what I'm
Speaker 2: trying to get at. I'm trying to look at the
Speaker 2: glasses being half full is supposed to be a half empty.
Speaker 5: Gary, Well, I'm.
Speaker 4: Trying to stay on subject matter with you because after all,
Speaker 4: I can dress. But one thing that really bothers me.
Speaker 4: I work a second shift, the third shift type of
Speaker 4: job all the time, and I work oddball hours. And
Speaker 4: one thing I notice is this. I know everything comes
Speaker 4: down the money in electric bills, that whether it's a
Speaker 4: market basker or all these stores, especially at nighttime when
Speaker 4: it hits the fall and winter in neighborhoods. Light up
Speaker 4: these neighborhoods, and you know these stores the parking lots
Speaker 4: like a Christmas tree. I know it costs a lot
Speaker 4: of money for the electric grid, and the people are
Speaker 4: paying the bills, the owners and of course the city
Speaker 4: and states. But do you agree with me light it
Speaker 4: up like a Christmas tree.
Speaker 2: What you're saying is, I think that businesses that want
Speaker 2: people to come to do their stores and spend money,
Speaker 2: whether it's a grocery store or it's a big box store,
Speaker 2: they have an obligation to provide a greater light to
Speaker 2: make people feel more comfortable. That's what you're saying, right right, Okay.
Speaker 2: I would suggest that that if a company was smart
Speaker 2: and they were going to be open after dark, and
Speaker 2: most companies are, it's in their interest to make sure
Speaker 2: that that parking lot is lit up like a Christmas
Speaker 2: tree because it will draw more customers. So I don't
Speaker 2: know why any store, you know, major company again, whether
Speaker 2: it's a big box store or a grocery store, wouldn't
Speaker 2: be smart enough to light up that parking lot and
Speaker 2: make sure that there were no dark spots in that
Speaker 2: parking lot where people could come shop and be comfortable.
Speaker 2: So I'm agreeing with you, but I also think we're
Speaker 2: not gonna be able to pass a lot to make
Speaker 2: it that way. We need to vote with our feet.
Speaker 2: And if you're not comfortable going to a home depot
Speaker 2: or a supermarket after darkness because the parking lot is
Speaker 2: not lit up, then find a better short to go
Speaker 2: to if you have to shop at that hour of
Speaker 2: the night.
Speaker 4: Okay, I want to throw this at you, Dan. Can
Speaker 4: I name a certain place in North end of the
Speaker 4: Massachusetts that's an apartment complex? Can I name it?
Speaker 2: Yeah? But please be careful, hopefully you're not going to
Speaker 2: disparage it.
Speaker 4: Go ahead, Well, it's called the Royal Crust Apartments and
Speaker 4: it's been around for like over forty years or more.
Speaker 4: All kinds of people live there and they pay range
Speaker 4: wise of two thousand to as much as twenty seven
Speaker 4: hundred and fifty dollars for rent. A buddy of mine
Speaker 4: had a pizza joint about ten years ago, and I
Speaker 4: made a quick delivery for them to help him out.
Speaker 4: The place is so dark, it's like doc parking lot
Speaker 4: all the time. These people are came heavy, heavy rents,
Speaker 4: and these men and women who are single, they're gonna
Speaker 4: walk to their promise in the darkness whatever time they
Speaker 4: get home. It's such a disgrace. I can't stand people
Speaker 4: being victimized, and so far I am dead set against it.
Speaker 4: What do you think of what I just said?
Speaker 2: I who would support people being victimized? But again, I
Speaker 2: think it's up to those folks to go to their landlord,
Speaker 2: you know, and express themselves. That's that's again, I understand
Speaker 2: the concerns you are. I'm looking probably to get a
Speaker 2: little more positive. So you've had an opportunity to express
Speaker 2: those concerns. If you live in a situation that you're uncomfortable,
Speaker 2: you you have every right to call the local police
Speaker 2: department and say I think that that this parking lot
Speaker 2: needs to be lit up better because it's gonna uh,
Speaker 2: it's it's gonna diminish the potential for crime. I mean
Speaker 2: people have to take it upon themselves, Gary to to
Speaker 2: pick up the phone or or you know, file a complaint.
Speaker 2: I mean, you just can't sit around and say I
Speaker 2: want that home people to be to be lit up more.
Speaker 4: Well, maybe they have complain and nobody does nothing about it.
Speaker 2: But thanks very much to the call. Is always happy
Speaker 2: new Year. Okay, thank you much. Got to take a break.
Speaker 2: Please get me back on track. Folk coming back on
Speaker 2: night Side.
Speaker 1: Now back to Dan Ray live from the Window World
Speaker 1: night Side Studios on WBZ News Radio.
Speaker 2: I hope I've been clear in what I'd like to
Speaker 2: hear you talk about, and that is, what is it
Speaker 2: about this country that you cherish? And if there's nothing
Speaker 2: that you cherish about this country, you don't have to call.
Speaker 2: But let's let's get positive here, because if we don't
Speaker 2: keep this country together, we will lose this country. We
Speaker 2: have an obligation to pass this country on to our descendants,
Speaker 2: to our kids, into our grandkids, into our grand children.
Speaker 2: Let me go to Bill and Lexington. Bill next on
Speaker 2: night Side, don't disappoint me. Bill, tell me what you
Speaker 2: cherish about America.
Speaker 6: Go ahead, Bill didn't happen to. Yeah, I cherish. What
Speaker 6: I cherish about America is people die trying to get
Speaker 6: here every day. Is it the America I grew up in?
Speaker 6: It is not. I think the last time we felt
Speaker 6: united was nine to eleven, and I think since then
Speaker 6: we've been torn apart. But it is still the greatest
Speaker 6: country on earth, and we we have a lot to
Speaker 6: look forward to.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean I think that. Look, it is not
Speaker 2: a perfect country. There's no perfect country in the world. World.
Speaker 2: But I'll tell you no. But when we somehow can
Speaker 2: produce nutjobs like this guy that mowed down dozens of
Speaker 2: people and killed fourteen people on Bourbon Street, how do
Speaker 2: you get to that point in this country? You know,
Speaker 2: if you lived in the if you know, if you
Speaker 2: lived in North Korea and and you just felt that
Speaker 2: there was nothing you could do, and all of a
Speaker 2: sudden you decided that you wanted to, you know, take
Speaker 2: out you know, some military people or generals or whatever,
Speaker 2: but you'd taken out innocent people who who you don't
Speaker 2: even know. They said that this guy had some postings
Speaker 2: on the Internet that he was committed to ISIS and
Speaker 2: he wanted to kill his family members, but he didn't
Speaker 2: think that that was really make the point, so he
Speaker 2: decided to kill just every day Americans. What a fire nutjob.
Speaker 6: I heard that afternoon and I was horrified. I have
Speaker 6: no idea, Dan, it's you know, people don't in this country.
Speaker 2: If people really get to the point where they don't
Speaker 2: like this country to the point that this guy was,
Speaker 2: let's you just leave, man. Well it wouldn't have been
Speaker 2: just nicer if you together. I said, I am now Isis.
Speaker 2: I'm going to go and I'm going to join up
Speaker 2: with my colleagues in Isis in Syria. Have the guts
Speaker 2: to follow what you believe.
Speaker 6: Go explore Antarctica by yourself. Yeah, that's enough as well,
Speaker 6: you know, you know what I mean, like go for
Speaker 6: go for to go Explora, you know, and see what happens.
Speaker 6: I'm gonna take out innocent people that this is our country.
Speaker 6: We should be able to celebrate a New Year's Eve
Speaker 6: without anything like that going on. It's disgusting. All around
Speaker 6: the world, you don't see this type of stuff as much.
Speaker 2: Well, you're sorry. At the German market, the Christmas market
Speaker 2: in Germany a few weeks ago, and maybe that's what
Speaker 2: gave this guy the idea. I just look at these people,
Speaker 2: the people who we have in this country. And again,
Speaker 2: I think we talked last night, if if this was
Speaker 2: World War two and we found and we had the Internet,
Speaker 2: and there were people going to websites, uh that were
Speaker 2: Nazi websites which were teaching them how they could destroy
Speaker 2: America from within, those people be put in jail. And
Speaker 2: I think we got to go to the point now
Speaker 2: we have to say, if you're going to be hanging
Speaker 2: out on an ISIS website, if you're gonna be hanging
Speaker 2: out at a hate website, a ku Klux Klan website
Speaker 2: or some sort of a website like that, we're gonna
Speaker 2: go and we're gonna have a visit with you. We're
Speaker 2: gonna find out, and we're gonna we got to stop.
Speaker 2: We got to be a little proactive in this country.
Speaker 6: Respect. I couldn't agree anymore that.
Speaker 2: That's constitutional rights. But we've gotten to the point where
Speaker 2: now we're now I think we have we have gone
Speaker 2: too far to an extreme bill. Thanks for getting us
Speaker 2: back on track. I appreciate it much, Thank you, sir.
Speaker 6: Always a pleasure. Happy New Year, Happy new year.
Speaker 2: Right back at you. Let me go to Glenn Glenn
Speaker 2: and Brighton Glenn. Yeah, you cherish America.
Speaker 7: I'm sure you do well. I hate to sound like
Speaker 7: a Trump informa shoe, but I cherished this most recent election.
Speaker 2: We cherish the election. But how about this. You can
Speaker 2: cherish the result. You cherish the result. I cherish the
Speaker 2: fact that we have an election.
Speaker 7: Isn't that true? Yes, we need we need Bill. It's
Speaker 7: not bullets. No, I just cherished the I mean, I
Speaker 7: just cherished that we're about to have a president that
Speaker 7: has a problem with illegal sleeping in hotels while home
Speaker 7: with veterans who served just sleeping in cardboard boxes.
Speaker 2: Yeah. You and I agree on that politically, man.
Speaker 7: Yeah, but but but I'm.
Speaker 2: Looking at the bigger picture, and the bigger picture is
Speaker 2: you know, Joe Biden got elected. You and I were
Speaker 2: not fans of Joe Biden's presidency. He was my president
Speaker 2: for four years, and I think he did a dismal job,
Speaker 2: and I'm not sad to see him leave. Okay, It's
Speaker 2: as simple as I hope Donald Trump can have a
Speaker 2: better presidency than he did the first time around. I
Speaker 2: hope he can keep his emotions under control, and I
Speaker 2: hope he can hire people who are both competent and loyal.
Speaker 7: I know the appointments. I agree with you. We need
Speaker 7: to hope he has a better appointments this time so
Speaker 7: far in his corner. But you know we have to
Speaker 7: wait and see waited four years.
Speaker 2: Yep, we'll starting again. He's he really has about two
Speaker 2: years in which he's going to be able to do something,
Speaker 2: and if he fails miserably in two years, he's going
Speaker 2: to pave the way for a Democrat to retake the
Speaker 2: White House in twenty eight. So you know again, I
Speaker 2: know that you're a big Trump guy. I want to
Speaker 2: give him every chance. He would be my president as
Speaker 2: of January twentieth, and the crazy liberals who are going
Speaker 2: to say he's not my president, guess what he is,
Speaker 2: just like Joe Biden's been my president for the.
Speaker 6: Last four years.
Speaker 7: That's right. I always say, go along for the ride
Speaker 7: if you don't like the election. I remember I was
Speaker 7: not a Reagan guy, but that he was my president.
Speaker 2: I was guy I was before Reagan was president. Trust
Speaker 2: me on that. Okay, I wish, yeah.
Speaker 7: No, I was. I was not a carter person either.
Speaker 7: I didn't like the long gassoline my dad.
Speaker 2: But I voted for Jimmy Carter and uh. And we're
Speaker 2: going to talk about Jimmy Carter at some point in
Speaker 2: the next few days. We tried to do it last night,
Speaker 2: but events overtook us. Uh, And I'm gonna I had
Speaker 2: the opportunity to meet Jimmy Carter before he was president,
Speaker 2: while he was president, and after he was president, and
Speaker 2: every time I felt I was dealing with somebody who
Speaker 2: was a gentleman. Oh yeah, I think he was victim
Speaker 2: of his circumstances.
Speaker 7: Oh no, I think he was a great former president.
Speaker 7: I mean the humanitarian stuff he did after that's easy.
Speaker 2: Yeah, he was. He was. But I also think that
Speaker 2: he was a victim of circumstances that he became president
Speaker 2: at a time in which this country needed a revival
Speaker 2: and he didn't provide it right.
Speaker 7: It was fall off from Watergate.
Speaker 2: Fallout from Watergate, fall off from Vietnam, and we had
Speaker 2: to go through some ten times then to say once
Speaker 2: fought and get back to morning.
Speaker 7: You know, I just think I voted. I voted to
Speaker 7: Jane McCarthy. But you know, whatever, I.
Speaker 2: Was, well, not in seventy six, maybe in the primary,
Speaker 2: but not in the final election.
Speaker 7: Well, no, he was an independent. He ran as an independent,
Speaker 7: and he was on the bell as a third party candidate.
Speaker 2: In nineteen seventy six. I forgot that, to be honest
Speaker 2: with you, so I always learned something when I talk
Speaker 2: with you, my friend. Appreciate it very much.
Speaker 7: All right, that might be a scary thing, but.
Speaker 6: No, not at all.
Speaker 2: Thanks, Glenn, appreciate you call. Okay, happy to you, buddy.
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, take a quick break here. Coming back on nights,
Speaker 2: I had only one line open, six one, seven thirty.
Speaker 2: What do you cherish about America? So far people have
Speaker 2: had a little tough time articulating what they cherish about America.
Speaker 2: I cherish literally everything about America because there's never been
Speaker 2: a country in the world like this country. It tolerates
Speaker 2: more lifestyles, it tolerates more points of view than any
Speaker 2: country in the world has ever contemplated. It's a great country.
Speaker 2: But at the same time, I think that we now
Speaker 2: have reached the point with ISIS and supporters of ISIS
Speaker 2: that they are terrorists and we need now but we
Speaker 2: might we need to defend America internally because there is
Speaker 2: a real danger in what is going on in some
Speaker 2: quarters of America and I think that isis is an
Speaker 2: example the far right and the far left. They need
Speaker 2: to be more closely monitored because they would take the
Speaker 2: country out if they had the opportunity. I got full lines,
Speaker 2: which is a good thing. Back on Nightside, right after.
Speaker 1: This Night's Side with Dan Ray, I'm WBZ Boston's news Radio.
Speaker 2: Where do you cherish about America? Let's go back and
Speaker 2: going to go to will in Long Island. Hey, we're welcome.
Speaker 2: How are you, sir?
Speaker 3: Happy new Year, Happy new Year, Dan. I cherish our
Speaker 3: individual civil liberties. I cherish our constitution. I cherish our history,
Speaker 3: our founding fathers. You know, those who willingly give up
Speaker 3: essential freedoms in exchange for a perceived sense of security
Speaker 3: ultimately deserve neither freedom nor security. Benjamin Franklin, Okay, I
Speaker 3: believe in our First and Second Amendment. I believe in
Speaker 3: I believe in our freedoms that men fought and died for,
Speaker 3: and I wish that our politics would return to that.
Speaker 3: I'm old enough to remember when Tiper O'Neill and Ronald
Speaker 3: Reagan were friends, and one time Ronald Reagan said to
Speaker 3: tiper O'Neil, why do you say these horrible things? About me,
Speaker 3: and he goes, it's just politics, and then they would
Speaker 3: eat lunch.
Speaker 2: So let me ask nobody U want to. I got
Speaker 2: to ask you a question. Okay, here's my question. I
Speaker 2: am now an advocate for cracking down, cracking down on
Speaker 2: the dark web, and particularly the ISIS sits on the
Speaker 2: dark Web, which apparently a radicalizing people. I think I
Speaker 2: wanted to equate. I'm equating ISIS sites and the racist
Speaker 2: sites that might exist, the ku klux claim type sites,
Speaker 2: assuming they exist with kitty porn. And just as we
Speaker 2: need to monitor these kitty porn sites and find out
Speaker 2: who's going and who's spending time looking at kitty porn
Speaker 2: on the dark web, I think we have to figure
Speaker 2: out who's hanging out at ISO sites because there are
Speaker 2: fourteen Americans tonight who are dead who should be allowed.
Speaker 3: Okay, Well, that obviously directly relates to Benjamin Franklin's bull
Speaker 3: right there. I believe that right, and I believe that
Speaker 3: you have every right to monitor these sites, and I
Speaker 3: have every I believe that you have every right, and
Speaker 3: our investigative branches of the United States government and state
Speaker 3: governments and local officials and all the people that are
Speaker 3: involved in law enforcement have every right to investigate and
Speaker 3: infiltrate and find out if the legal activities are going on,
Speaker 3: but to arrest people, then we'd be going back to
Speaker 3: the McCarthy times.
Speaker 6: Oh you look, Just to be clear, I know you're not.
Speaker 2: Just to be clear. And and if if, let us say, hypothetically,
Speaker 2: fly you decided, well, I'm going to spend some time
Speaker 2: looking at kitty porn. Okay, Now you know, maybe you
Speaker 2: haven't committed a crime, because maybe there's no statue of
Speaker 2: the books that says looking at kitty porn is a
Speaker 2: crime per se. Now, if you try to engage in
Speaker 2: kitty porn, that's a different story, okay.
Speaker 3: Or distribute it or down.
Speaker 2: Okay, fair enough. But if all of a sudden the
Speaker 2: FBI knocks at your door and said, well what are
Speaker 2: you doing hanging on in these kitty porn sites? That
Speaker 2: might send a message which would be enough for you
Speaker 2: to say who this is? Not somewhere I really want
Speaker 2: to be same way with isis?
Speaker 8: Uh?
Speaker 3: Here's how I look at this. We see because here's
Speaker 3: the real issue. These people are visiting these sites mostly
Speaker 3: as adults and then going out and committing these crimes
Speaker 3: on their own volition, not because they read something. The
Speaker 3: bottom line is, years ago, many years ago, people in
Speaker 3: this country have decided that there is a way to
Speaker 3: gain power, political power by teaching people that America was
Speaker 3: founded by evil, racist and became the power that it
Speaker 3: is on ill gotten gains. And there is a political
Speaker 3: group in this country that is growing and has been
Speaker 3: growing for decades by denouncing America and hating America, and
Speaker 3: this festering in our colleges and our schools, and now
Speaker 3: it's getting down way down to even earlier programs. So
Speaker 3: if you're teaching people that our history is awful and
Speaker 3: despicable and racist and evil, and America is evil, then
Speaker 3: they grow up believing that, and then that's why they're
Speaker 3: going to look at these places. So I agree with
Speaker 3: you to investigate these sites and these people. I also
Speaker 3: agree that the people that are making these types of
Speaker 3: speeches and gaining political power by hating America, maybe they
Speaker 3: don't need to be investigated by our government, but they
Speaker 3: certainly need to be denounced and checked by us.
Speaker 1: We the people.
Speaker 3: We don't need the government to do everything for us.
Speaker 3: We need to do it ourselves. Were familiar, buddy, I
Speaker 3: love America. You know that, and I'm hoping that you know,
Speaker 3: I'm in my late forties. I'm hoping that I can
Speaker 3: see this country turn around for my kids, your grandkids,
Speaker 3: and everybody else that comes after us.
Speaker 2: We said, we said thanks, well, appreciate it. Happy New Year.
Speaker 2: And next up, let's go to Christine in Dedham. Hi, Christine,
Speaker 2: how are you tonight? Welcome?
Speaker 9: Thank you?
Speaker 3: Dan.
Speaker 9: I cherished his country. The veterans have made our freedom free.
Speaker 9: And I feel like, like you said, we need to
Speaker 9: stop these doc websites and just we need to start
Speaker 9: respecting America again. And how we will always come together
Speaker 9: in times of bed like nine to eleven and the
Speaker 9: Boston's Marathon bombing is how we always came together and
Speaker 9: help each other. We just need to stay together and Terrish,
Speaker 9: our country. We've got to enclothes aboard us and that
Speaker 9: is enough.
Speaker 2: Yeah. I mean, I think that we have a right
Speaker 2: as a country. And again I'm I'm trying to keep
Speaker 2: this as non political as I can, but I think
Speaker 2: we have a right to monitor our borders and to
Speaker 2: make sure that people who are coming into the country
Speaker 2: come in through legitimate access points and we know who
Speaker 2: they are and we know why they're coming here, and
Speaker 2: they would have to come here for a reason. Now
Speaker 2: they cannot come to America under the law currently for
Speaker 2: simply economic reasons. Meaning if somebody lives in a country where,
Speaker 2: let us say, the political regime is so oppressive that
Speaker 2: they're in fear of their life or in fear of
Speaker 2: their freedom, or and fear of their liberty, that is
Speaker 2: a way in which we have allowed people to come here.
Speaker 2: But if someone comes here and says, hey, I'd like
Speaker 2: to make more money and depth, that's not a reason
Speaker 2: to come to the country. So we need to be
Speaker 2: clearer for everybody to understand how access to America. I'm
Speaker 2: not saying we shut the borders. I mean in the
Speaker 2: sense that nobody gets in, But I think that we
Speaker 2: have to do it in a way in which legally
Speaker 2: we understand who's coming in, why they're coming in, and
Speaker 2: what they have to offer. That's all, you know, Keep
Speaker 2: it so people understand it, Christine, is what I think.
Speaker 2: There's there's a lot of confusion now as amongst amongst people,
Speaker 2: and they don't know what the purpose of a border is.
Speaker 2: If we don't there are people who tell you we
Speaker 2: shouldn't have a border you know, a country without borders
Speaker 2: is no longer a country. I think. I think I've
Speaker 2: lost Christine here. Okay, thanks Christine, appreciate your call. Let
Speaker 2: me get one more in here before the break. Let's
Speaker 2: go next to Jamie in Worcester. Jamie next on Nightside.
Speaker 2: What do you cherish about America? Jamie?
Speaker 5: Hey, I Dan, can you hear me here?
Speaker 2: Are you fine? Go right ahead?
Speaker 5: All right, I'm on speak a phone and I just
Speaker 5: wanted it's easier to talk to you that way.
Speaker 7: Uh.
Speaker 5: I cherish the believe it or not. I cherished the
Speaker 5: decision making of our country because you know, the people
Speaker 5: of this country every every election I've been through, I'm
Speaker 5: I'm fifty two years old, but I don't know. Every time,
Speaker 5: in the end, the people make the right choice, you know,
Speaker 5: they they weigh the decisions a night. At times, I'm
Speaker 5: worried because of the slander both sides of the of
Speaker 5: the side of the campaign, you know, go into it
Speaker 5: and telling this and that, and then you hear all
Speaker 5: this news and it's like, oh man, you know, people
Speaker 5: are going to make the wrong choice. But in the
Speaker 5: end they can't for the country, and they make the
Speaker 5: right choice. I don't know.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, I don't know that we've always made
Speaker 2: the right choice. I think that at critical times we
Speaker 2: made the right choice. I think Franklin Roosevelt was the
Speaker 2: right choice at the time of depression. He certainly was
Speaker 2: the right choice of World War Two. I think Dwight
Speaker 2: eisen I think Harry Truman was historically a great president.
Speaker 2: I think not someone who people expected a lot from.
Speaker 2: Eisenhower was a was a great leader. Kennedy was a
Speaker 2: great leader. I think that that that Nixon so loved
Speaker 2: and desired the office that at the end of the day,
Speaker 2: he was not the right choice.
Speaker 5: Yeah, I agree with all that.
Speaker 2: But I think I think there have been time time
Speaker 2: in this country for conservative Republicans and time in this
Speaker 2: country for more you know, liberal Democrats. But I think
Speaker 2: we've always tried to stay within some you know boundaries.
Speaker 2: I mean that Ronald Reagan, George Bush, George Bush, they
Speaker 2: all I think were fine. President Obama I disagreed a
Speaker 2: lot of what he did, but I think he handled himself.
Speaker 2: There were things I wish he had done better, but
Speaker 2: I thought he had himself well. So yeah, maybe maybe
Speaker 2: you're right. Maybe I don't know that we had a
Speaker 2: great choice.
Speaker 5: Yeah, Because I'm just saying that when I watch elections
Speaker 5: from my you know, side of the paytation of politics.
Speaker 5: When I was in my early twenties to now in
Speaker 5: my fifties, when I remember the Reagan days and the
Speaker 5: Obama days and the Clinton days, it was just issues,
Speaker 5: and now it's all slander. Like you know, you don't
Speaker 5: know who to believe and who not to believe, and
Speaker 5: so it gets really like muddy and you get worried
Speaker 5: about who is you know, are people going to fall
Speaker 5: for this false lie or that false lie on both sides?
Speaker 5: And it's just so that that was my worry. And
Speaker 5: I'm not saying I'm going to go on one Caidid
Speaker 5: or the other. I'm just saying for the betterment of
Speaker 5: the country, it was a tough decision for people to make,
Speaker 5: and based on the whole situation, this is one of
Speaker 5: the most difficult political elections I had to vote on.
Speaker 2: You know, who'd you vote for? Who'd you finally vote for?
Speaker 5: If I could ask, I did do Trump because because
Speaker 5: I just I had to. I just you know, I
Speaker 5: know my brother, he's a big Democrat.
Speaker 2: And all I can say to you is this I
Speaker 2: hope that your confidence in him works out for the country.
Speaker 2: I mean, I wanted to succeed, just like I wanted
Speaker 2: Joe Biden succeed. I don't think Joe Biden was a
Speaker 2: very successful president. Uh and I agree.
Speaker 5: Yeah. You know, I didn't make my decision on politics.
Speaker 5: I was just trying to listen to the betterment of
Speaker 5: the country and and it was a tough decision. But
Speaker 5: I was like, I don't know what you know, I said,
Speaker 5: he I know he has his moments, and you know
Speaker 5: we all know that. But I'm like, you got what
Speaker 5: do you do? I said, the guy he's a businessman.
Speaker 5: He knows what to do.
Speaker 2: Well. Again, as I said, I want I don't want
Speaker 2: to relitigate the campaign. At some point in the next time.
Speaker 6: I.
Speaker 5: Want to go, I don't want to talk about that.
Speaker 2: Call me back over time and tell me if you're
Speaker 2: happy with how it goes once he becomes president. I
Speaker 2: hope he's successful, just as I hope Joe Biden would
Speaker 2: be successful.
Speaker 5: I exactly me say the same way with me because
Speaker 5: I worked for Joe Biden.
Speaker 2: So okay, well that's a good that's a good reason
Speaker 2: why your brother should have stuck with him, Jamie, I'm
Speaker 2: at my break. I gotta let you run. Appreciate you
Speaker 2: call very much.
Speaker 5: I know I just called it. I've called you before,
Speaker 5: but I don't know if you're remember me.
Speaker 2: But do me a favorite. Call more often, and of
Speaker 2: course I'm gonna remember you. Okay, call it. I appreciate
Speaker 2: you call.
Speaker 5: Thanks much every night when I got out of work.
Speaker 5: So thank you very much.
Speaker 2: I think you'll be an interesting You've been interesting weather Vane.
Speaker 2: Meaning if six months from now you feel comfortable about Trump,
Speaker 2: then he will be probably doing a good job. If
Speaker 2: you're not comfortable about it, he probably won't be doing
Speaker 2: a good job. So keep it.
Speaker 5: Please give you I'll definitely get him my information.
Speaker 2: Thanks. Thanks, Jimmy, have a great night. Good night. Coming
Speaker 2: back on Night's Side right after the break. Here we
Speaker 2: got four calls. We'll get them all in only line
Speaker 2: open six, one, seven, two, four, ten thirty.
Speaker 1: Now back to Dan Ray live from the Window World
Speaker 1: night Side Studios on WBZ News Radio.
Speaker 2: I'm going to try to get everybody in, so we
Speaker 2: got to tighten it up. Alex and Millis. Alex next
Speaker 2: on Nightside, grow right ahead, what do you cherish about America?
Speaker 10: I cherish that it's a resilient country. So no matter
Speaker 10: what happens, uh, all these extremes we've encountered, things seem
Speaker 10: to get back to normal, so to speak. And it
Speaker 10: is still the greatest country in the world because I
Speaker 10: came from I came from, you know, Greece, and that's
Speaker 10: a lovely country too, But this is the only country
Speaker 10: where it will let you practice what you want. You know,
Speaker 10: our health care system it's not the best, it's not
Speaker 10: the worst, and it's not the best, but it's still
Speaker 10: better in most places, you.
Speaker 7: Know in the world.
Speaker 2: Well said, Well, we'll say.
Speaker 10: But there's a lot of nice things. You can say
Speaker 10: a lot about America, but I think that we're resilient.
Speaker 2: Well, I think you're right, and I think you said
Speaker 2: it well, and I appreciate you taking the time, Alex,
Speaker 2: I really do, thank you, sir. Great night, Good night,
Speaker 2: Let's keep rolling. You're going to go to joe In,
Speaker 2: joe Inn in Waltham, joe In next on nightside. What
Speaker 2: do you cherish about America?
Speaker 7: Joe In?
Speaker 11: They did Happy New Year to you and everyone.
Speaker 2: Yep.
Speaker 11: Well, yeah, I had my doubts, but the election restored
Speaker 11: my faith in American people half of them. Anyways, it's
Speaker 11: it's a wonderful country. It is the best country. And
Speaker 11: I agreed with everything Will said, and you said, yeah, well.
Speaker 2: I appreciate that. I just think that that that what
Speaker 2: my concern is. I don't particularly care whether we have
Speaker 2: a Democratic or Republican president. You know, again, we tend
Speaker 2: to swing back and forth to go through this with
Speaker 2: you many times.
Speaker 11: But if you but was a failure, Yeah.
Speaker 2: He was very He's a huge disappointment. American hambered particularly well.
Speaker 2: But he's he will soon be gone. Uh. And you
Speaker 2: know he here heard his party tremendously.
Speaker 11: So I'm just praying Trump will do well.
Speaker 2: Well, that's the point. I mean, I hope he does.
Speaker 2: And if he does well, we'll all benefit. If he
Speaker 2: doesn't do well, he'll be criticized and and not only
Speaker 2: will he and four years uh as a failure, but
Speaker 2: then the Republican party will watch there as he turns
Speaker 2: the country back over to the Democrats. That's the way.
Speaker 2: That was simple.
Speaker 6: That so good.
Speaker 11: And I tried to call you last night because I
Speaker 11: had the exact same thing you had.
Speaker 2: Oh I don't want to go into that tonight.
Speaker 11: Yeah, I had the same thing.
Speaker 2: I hope we both recover. I think I'm finally almost
Speaker 2: out of the woods. When when did you get out
Speaker 2: of the woods.
Speaker 11: It took me a month to get rid of the cough.
Speaker 2: What did your doctors diagnose it?
Speaker 7: As?
Speaker 6: Did?
Speaker 2: I did know?
Speaker 11: I don't go to the doctor. I'm like, it's the
Speaker 11: flu or a bad chest cold.
Speaker 2: All right, go to the your brain that I am, Joeanne, trust.
Speaker 11: Me, I guess, and the good wife that I am.
Speaker 11: I gave it to my husband and he wanted to
Speaker 11: go to the doctor, and I talked him out of it.
Speaker 11: They were both fine.
Speaker 2: Good for you, Joanne. I got to run here. I
Speaker 2: get the boy coming up talking every good here's called
Speaker 2: you look forward to the next things. Happy New Year.
Speaker 2: We're going next going to go to Dan and Brookline. Dan,
Speaker 2: what do you charge about America?
Speaker 8: I think it's pretty clear to me. Uh, it's the
Speaker 8: Constitution and in particular the Bill of Rights. I think
Speaker 8: that a lot of what people have said tonight is
Speaker 8: gets you know, has its origin in that. And all
Speaker 8: you have to do is look at England, a country,
Speaker 8: great Britain, a country that I always thought was kind
Speaker 8: of sort of like our sister country, and in the
Speaker 8: reality is you've paid attention to what's happening there.
Speaker 6: The lack of a.
Speaker 8: Bill of rights, the lack of of you know, hard
Speaker 8: coded freedom of speech like we have is just it's
Speaker 8: out of control there. They're arresting people for saying things.
Speaker 8: It's just it's crazy, and we'm.
Speaker 2: Arresting people for saying things. But I am now becoming
Speaker 2: much more in favor of monitoring more closely.
Speaker 6: Some of them with you.
Speaker 8: Yeah, In fact, I've been paying a lot more attention
Speaker 8: to Twitter the last year and a half and some
Speaker 8: of the stuff that I read on there is so
Speaker 8: awful and horrible and uh, and what it does to people. Again,
Speaker 8: you know, this terrorism that we're that we're seeing, I
Speaker 8: think a lot of it comes from social media, but
Speaker 8: we have to be really careful when we talk about
Speaker 8: censoring it. And so I don't know what the answer is,
Speaker 8: but I'm with you, we've got some problems.
Speaker 2: I think as we don't censor about I think we
Speaker 2: have to monitor more carefully and also get to people
Speaker 2: and almost do an intervention and say what the hell
Speaker 2: are you doing? And if somebody has a reaction and says,
Speaker 2: I'll do what I want to do and blah blah blah.
Speaker 2: Then you got to watch them. You got to watch them,
Speaker 2: simple as that take the temperature. Thanks Dan, appreciate you calling.
Speaker 2: All right, New Year, New you two as well. Let
Speaker 2: me go to Robert and Wellesley. Robert, get time for
Speaker 2: you and one more go ahead, Robert.
Speaker 12: Good even Jan our chair us religious freedom, our Judeo
Speaker 12: Christian culture, and our ethical patriotism. I think that something,
Speaker 12: something really went went wrong. We have a great country, uh,
Speaker 12: and it's a land of opportunity, but people do get hurt.
Speaker 12: I think we have to be have an ethical sense
Speaker 12: about how we deal with other other people. And uh
Speaker 12: uh something went wrong with that? Was that person in
Speaker 12: New Orleans that he felt that the only solace he
Speaker 12: had left and it was to use the remainder of
Speaker 12: his life to strike out blindly in an act of violence.
Speaker 2: So but but there's a lot of people in that category.
Speaker 2: He's not the first. Okay, remember we got the Boston bombers.
Speaker 2: You got the guy, the Halloween guy in in New
Speaker 2: York a few years ago.
Speaker 6: Uh.
Speaker 2: These you have Major Nadal Hassan, the guy down at
Speaker 2: uh in Texas, at Fort Hood, Texas. Uh, this is
Speaker 2: a problem, and we got to deal with it in
Speaker 2: some form of FasTIS.
Speaker 13: Oh, I agree?
Speaker 12: This certainly isn't a a need for for our government
Speaker 12: services to function the way this's postal function in order
Speaker 12: in order to protect us.
Speaker 2: You bet you? Thanks, Robert, appreciate you call very much.
Speaker 2: Happy New Year. Gonna wrap it up, barn is mixed up,
Speaker 2: Born and Ashley.
Speaker 13: Go ahead, Warren, Hey, Dan, how are you good?
Speaker 2: Show week? I got about thirty seconds to forty five seconds.
Speaker 13: So so we met around Katrina a couple of times,
Speaker 13: like three. I'm the guy that brought family stuff from
Speaker 13: New Orleans.
Speaker 2: Yes, sure, absolutely, yep, I enjoyed me.
Speaker 13: Needs to make a very nice man.
Speaker 2: Uh, thank you. I'm good.
Speaker 13: I'm confused a couple of topics so I have. I
Speaker 13: was a lifelong Democrat and I became a more a
Speaker 13: Republican like around two thousand.
Speaker 2: Okay, and Warren, I'm running out of town, man, what
Speaker 2: do you cherish about the country? What do you real? Quickly, Warren,
Speaker 2: I'm out of time.
Speaker 13: Almost well, let's talk again.
Speaker 2: Fine, thanks for calling call a little early, give you
Speaker 2: more time, but time runs out on this program at midnight.
Speaker 2: Thanks Warren, Thank you much, sorry about that, folks, and
Speaker 2: Warren apologize, but time time runs out on all of us,
Speaker 2: and it runs out every night here on Nightside. Rob Brooks,
Speaker 2: thank you very much, Maritas. We'll be here tomorrow at
Speaker 2: four thirty. I'll be back tomorrow night at eight o five,
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