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Speaker 3: Hello and welcome back to the twenty twenty four Panties
Speaker 3: on the Floor, Ghosts, Demons and more. Halloween Special Today
Speaker 3: is a super cool episode featuring very fittingly ghost from
Speaker 3: My Third Eye Podcast.
Speaker 2: We will be exploring the Oki Kahara Forest today, also
Speaker 2: known as Suicide Forest. This episode is sure to keep
Speaker 2: that third.
Speaker 3: Eye all the way open.
Speaker 2: Let's go.
Speaker 4: Okay everyone, you know where you are, and today we
Speaker 4: have on the one the only ghost from my Third
Speaker 4: Eye podcast.
Speaker 2: How are you Ghosts?
Speaker 1: I'm doing good. How are you? It's nice to see
Speaker 1: you again.
Speaker 2: Oh so good to see you.
Speaker 4: I'm good.
Speaker 2: I'm just happy it's Halloween and we can talk about
Speaker 2: all things free.
Speaker 1: P one of my favorite times of year.
Speaker 2: Yeah, me too. I got a pumpkin everywhere. You can
Speaker 2: put a pumpkin in my house right now?
Speaker 1: Are you into a pumpkin spice latte? Are you one
Speaker 1: of those?
Speaker 2: No? I like a nice maple. I feel like that's
Speaker 2: still fall.
Speaker 1: I'm glad you didn't never turned it into one of
Speaker 1: those basic bitches.
Speaker 2: I know, yeah, I'll do. I'll do like a maple
Speaker 2: caramel or like hazel nuts for the fall. Nice, so
Speaker 2: not pumpkin spice actually, and it gives me acid reflux,
Speaker 2: so no thing right. And I actually like sweet potato pie,
Speaker 2: not pumpkin pie. Where are you on? That goes?
Speaker 5: Ye, I gotta go pumpkin pie all day. I when
Speaker 5: I it was one of my It wasn't the first
Speaker 5: Thanksgiving away when I joined the military that Thanksgiving and
Speaker 5: basic training we were pimped out to the community. Families
Speaker 5: came in and like picked us, Hey, you can come
Speaker 5: spend time in our place. But the first one that
Speaker 5: I went, when I got to my actual duty station.
Speaker 1: Went down to Walmart.
Speaker 5: I was like, yeah, I'm getting pumpkin pie grabs, whipped cream,
Speaker 5: Like I'm taking this back to dorm room.
Speaker 1: I'm gonna fucking smash. It.
Speaker 5: Took one bite and I'm like, what the fuck? Look
Speaker 5: down sweet potato pie. I was like, this is fucking disgusting.
Speaker 5: And I've never had it since. So but I like
Speaker 5: sweet potatoes, just not sweet potato pie.
Speaker 2: Yeah. Yeah, I mean I think it's all in who
Speaker 2: who's preparing it, because of course, like my husband's family.
Speaker 2: They make homemade like super.
Speaker 1: Sm gonna be much better than a Walmart brand.
Speaker 2: Oh yeah. They put like a crested like you know
Speaker 2: how they do crimberle, and they like burn the top
Speaker 2: of it with that. They do all that. But on
Speaker 2: the sweet potato pie, Oh it's so good with little
Speaker 2: caramel drizzle on it.
Speaker 5: I will say, I will say in all fairness, if
Speaker 5: I was in your position. Okay, not saying I want
Speaker 5: to be a girl or married to your husband, but
Speaker 5: having a nice African American family cook food.
Speaker 2: Oh it's great.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I'll try it because.
Speaker 2: The wrong during the summer, the Thanksgiving Christmas ghost It's
Speaker 2: like I died and once a heaven, I eat all
Speaker 2: day like on Thanksgiving. It's like you fast for a
Speaker 2: couple of days before because you know, on Thanksgiving it's
Speaker 2: fucking going down. Like yeah, mashed potatos everything.
Speaker 1: I'm because I haven't had them in a long time.
Speaker 5: I would literally sit down and grab a bowl and
Speaker 5: just fill it with collar greens. Oh I had, and
Speaker 5: I will not trust a white person that makes collar
Speaker 5: greats me either.
Speaker 2: They put like the bacon fat in there, they put
Speaker 2: like all that. Oh, it's so good, Ghosts, I'll have
Speaker 2: to take like a video and send it to you
Speaker 2: for Thanksgiving.
Speaker 1: I'll send a picture back with draw running down my.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's quite a spread. But to continue on my spooctacular,
Speaker 2: I gave you a little bit of homework looking into
Speaker 2: the Suicide Forest also known as the Oki Gahara Forest
Speaker 2: in Japan. And before we get into like the specifics
Speaker 2: on everything, I kind of wanted to just get your thoughts.
Speaker 2: What did you think when you first looked into the
Speaker 2: Oki Kahara Forest.
Speaker 5: Tht it was bizarre, the fact that people are going
Speaker 5: there in hopes to either a commit suicide or maybe
Speaker 5: have their minds changed and you know, make their way
Speaker 5: back out. The fact that there's people that go in
Speaker 5: there to you know, I don't want to jump jump
Speaker 5: the horse, but try to try to talk people out
Speaker 5: of it and what have you. And some of the
Speaker 5: videos that you do watch, I mean, any forest at
Speaker 5: night is creepy, but you can almost pick up on
Speaker 5: the energy of these people in there during the day
Speaker 5: and night, and it's.
Speaker 1: Just it's weird. It's just an odd, odd sense of feeling.
Speaker 5: And for the fact that I mean, they don't release
Speaker 5: the numbers now, but I mean it's a high number
Speaker 5: of people that go there to commencement.
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, I have as one of my notes, I
Speaker 2: wrote down each year, close to one hundred Japanese citizens
Speaker 2: go into the forest. And I guess this one documentary
Speaker 2: I watched said that one year they found close to
Speaker 2: with skeletons and actual human bodies seventy to one hundred
Speaker 2: and fifty bodies a year in one year.
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's sad. That's crazy.
Speaker 2: And also, just to touch on what you said, the
Speaker 2: videos themselves have a feeling like just looking at the forest,
Speaker 2: it almost comes through your screen like oh yeah, what
Speaker 2: is this?
Speaker 5: Yeah yeah, you pick it up and it's just yeah,
Speaker 5: I don't know, you when there's that much death, find
Speaker 5: something in an area like that and you go into it,
Speaker 5: and you can take any haunted location, you can kind
Speaker 5: of feel that, you.
Speaker 1: Know what I mean.
Speaker 5: I don't necessarily always pick up on it, like when
Speaker 5: you watch Stupid Ghost Adventures. I hate that show, but
Speaker 5: there's other ones out there that do a hell of
Speaker 5: a lot better job, and you kind of get that,
Speaker 5: like Okay, the hair right, something's not fucking right in
Speaker 5: this building or forest, in this case. And I mean
Speaker 5: I was sitting here one night at the computer, had
Speaker 5: the headphones on. I think I had one little lamp
Speaker 5: on it, so it wasn't real light in here, and
Speaker 5: I'm sitting there watching it.
Speaker 1: I'm just like, WHOA, this is fucking cool. M this
Speaker 1: is creepy. It's like real life ghost story shit or
Speaker 1: a horror movie.
Speaker 5: And I'm sitting there in intense looking at it, waiting
Speaker 5: for something to fucking happen or pop out or you know,
Speaker 5: see someone fucking jump down from a tree and strangle them.
Speaker 1: Say it was just weird.
Speaker 2: It's weird. And you know a lot of the places
Speaker 2: that they visit, like on Ghost Adventures, let's just say
Speaker 2: you have to take their word for it that people
Speaker 2: died there, Like you don't know if that's for real, Like, oh,
Speaker 2: of fifty people died here. It's like, how do you
Speaker 2: know that, I mean unless you went back in like
Speaker 2: foud obituaries or like this place it's like skeletons right
Speaker 2: in the video, or like ropes hanging from trees right
Speaker 2: in the video. There's just bodies everywhere. You don't even
Speaker 2: have to take anyone's word for it, Like people go
Speaker 2: here to die.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 2: And so it's in Japan. It's sixty miles southwest of
Speaker 2: Tokyo and it sits at the base of Mount Fuji.
Speaker 2: Did you find that?
Speaker 1: I did find that.
Speaker 2: And so there are more than just Mount Fuji that
Speaker 2: have been accused of like being hotspots. Mount Shasta being
Speaker 2: another one, for example. So I'm not gonna say what
Speaker 2: my whole theory is right now, but that's part of it,
Speaker 2: Like these mountains are places that used to be sacred
Speaker 2: for a reason mm hmm, because of the energy and
Speaker 2: activity that surrounds it. I did have one person who
Speaker 2: did some investigating and actually went there for themselves, and
Speaker 2: they described it as being super silent, ominously quiet, no bugs,
Speaker 2: no birds, no wind.
Speaker 5: That's usually the time in America when you come across
Speaker 5: that sasquatch is gonna peek his head out around the tree.
Speaker 5: I mean, when it's dead quiet like that, it's eerie.
Speaker 2: Yeah. I thought that was really interesting because he was, like,
Speaker 2: you would think that it would just before it sounds
Speaker 2: like when birds, bugs, maybe other people walking around in
Speaker 2: the forest. You hear some branches snap, some leaves rustling
Speaker 2: through nothing. He said it was dead quiet, which we
Speaker 2: do have to take his word for it, but just
Speaker 2: from the videos themselves, I can see how that might
Speaker 2: be a thing like just dead quiet death everywhere is
Speaker 2: super scary. And local officials in this town have posted
Speaker 2: signs outside of the forest warning those who enter to
Speaker 2: turn back and seek help. So there's like signs posted
Speaker 2: up all over, like the entrance to the forest. It's like, hey,
Speaker 2: don't go in here. If you are having dark thoughts,
Speaker 2: please turn around and call this phone number. So it
Speaker 2: was kind of like you said, when you were trying
Speaker 2: to google stuff about it, it was a bunch of
Speaker 2: suicide hotlines popping up, like Hey, if you're thinking about this,
Speaker 2: here's this number, maybe you.
Speaker 1: Wanna call it.
Speaker 5: I was just gonna say the whole string thing was
Speaker 5: what really fascinated me, and was like, whoa, you know
Speaker 5: what I mean, Like, I'm sure we'll get into it.
Speaker 2: But yeah, so I've heard that, and I'm also heard
Speaker 2: that some people and it's been found in there. There's
Speaker 2: pictures of it. They take a yellow ribbon, and someone
Speaker 2: even speculated that local officials put this ribbon in there,
Speaker 2: and it's a yellow ribbon that goes around like one
Speaker 2: tree at the entrance of the forest, and it goes
Speaker 2: all the way throughout it, and this ribbon is supposed
Speaker 2: to be like, hey, follow this ribbon if you need
Speaker 2: to find your way back out, Like if you get
Speaker 2: really deep into this motherfucker, if you can find this
Speaker 2: yellow ribbon, it will take you out if you So
Speaker 2: I thought that was a clever way of like maybe
Speaker 2: you do get in their ghost and you're like, I
Speaker 2: didn't think this through. I changed my mind, But now
Speaker 2: you're lost. Yeah, because this is a massive forest.
Speaker 5: It's huge, uh, And I think the concentration, if memory
Speaker 5: serves right, is only in a certain little area in
Speaker 5: this for and you have to really go deep to
Speaker 5: get to the area where suicides are are happening.
Speaker 1: And I mean it, I don't know, uh.
Speaker 2: He So imagine being suicidal. You get your driving all
Speaker 2: the fucking way to the forest, you have to find
Speaker 2: somewhere to park your car, You get out of your car,
Speaker 2: you start walking by foot into the forest kilometers and
Speaker 2: then you get to the middle of the forest. You're
Speaker 2: still suicidal after all of that, and then you hang
Speaker 2: your rope, you do whatever you're gonna do, and then
Speaker 2: at the last second you're like, you know what I'm
Speaker 2: not gonna do it. I change my mind. Then you
Speaker 2: can't find your way back out. Maybe you stumble across
Speaker 2: a few other people's dead bodies. Then you're scared. Then
Speaker 2: you can't find your way back out, and you're like,
Speaker 2: fuck it, I guess I will just kill myself.
Speaker 5: Yeah, being lost in a forest isn't the funnest thing
Speaker 5: in the world. You know, I've got turned around at
Speaker 5: least once in my life, and you're like.
Speaker 1: What the fuck? You know what I mean?
Speaker 5: Then luckily I wasn't far from you know, civilization or
Speaker 5: you know, houses or whatever, but you know, that whole
Speaker 5: kick in, and then you're scared on top of can
Speaker 5: I get out? And then you're like, well, fuck it,
Speaker 5: I was here to kill myself, might as well.
Speaker 1: Do it, you know what I mean?
Speaker 2: Right, Yeah, there's a parking lot near the forest, and
Speaker 2: it's just full of abandoned cars, And it's so creepy
Speaker 2: because it's clear that these cars have been there for
Speaker 2: months and like the owner just never returned for the car,
Speaker 2: like just sitting there months and months years. Some of
Speaker 2: these cars have just been sitting in this parking lot.
Speaker 2: The person obviously went in there committed suicide. And never
Speaker 2: came back for their car because they're dead. But one
Speaker 2: of these researchers said that Japanese people have like a
Speaker 2: really close connection with nature. So it said that a
Speaker 2: lot of people go in there and they're undecided and
Speaker 2: some change their mind, and that's why the yellow ribbon
Speaker 2: is there. But they do find it odd that because
Speaker 2: Japanese people have like this whole connection with Mount Fuji
Speaker 2: as being like this sacred place.
Speaker 1: Very spiritual, why yeah, why.
Speaker 2: Would they want to kill themselves there at the mountain
Speaker 2: of this sacred you know, it's it's odd. You'd think
Speaker 2: that they wouldn't want to kill themselves there out of
Speaker 2: respect for the legend or is.
Speaker 1: It a sacrifice?
Speaker 2: See, now you're getting on my page ghosts, Like what's
Speaker 2: going on with this specific location? Because there's many forests,
Speaker 2: but why this one? You know? And so they've went
Speaker 2: in there. It's like I said, they find about seventy
Speaker 2: to one hundred and fifty bodies a year and they
Speaker 2: don't count them anymore. It's like you said, this is so,
Speaker 2: this is even an older statistic. But they've said that
Speaker 2: they can only imagine that the numbers have increased over
Speaker 2: the years and they go in on a regular basis
Speaker 2: to try to get out as many bodies as they
Speaker 2: can because they're decomposing. There's you know, obviously we're going
Speaker 2: to have to try to clean some of that up.
Speaker 2: And they find like backpacks and tents, and they find
Speaker 2: suicide notes that people have like nailed onto trees. But
Speaker 2: the creepiest thing is some of them have the person's
Speaker 2: name on it. So you find this suicide note nailed
Speaker 2: to the tree with the person's name on it, and
Speaker 2: then like a few feet away is like a skeleton
Speaker 2: with like backpack and tent, and it's like, oh my god,
Speaker 2: Now you have to go report this to the family,
Speaker 2: and do you give them the note?
Speaker 5: Like, oh my god, Yeah, that's a tough one because
Speaker 5: I don't know when you bring that up. I remember
Speaker 5: when we were in high school, we used to go
Speaker 5: to junk yards to get parts for our cars or whatever.
Speaker 5: And my buddy and I were walking around the junk
Speaker 5: yard and one of the cars that we came upon,
Speaker 5: obviously was in a car accident, and you could see
Speaker 5: where the person's head hit the windshield. There was still
Speaker 5: hair and shit hanging out from them. They were like,
Speaker 5: whoa that's fucked up, like looking at that and you know,
Speaker 5: so it's kind.
Speaker 2: Of like knowing what happened.
Speaker 5: Yeah, and it's like, Okay, someone probably fucking died and
Speaker 5: we're standing here at this car.
Speaker 1: You know, it's just weird. It's messes with you a
Speaker 1: little bit.
Speaker 2: And the violent deaths like that, they leave behind an
Speaker 2: energy signature, and so you get a concentrated area of
Speaker 2: these violent deaths. I can only imagine. But basically what
Speaker 2: they found is the majority of the suicides are hanging
Speaker 2: and then some others are like gunshot overdose, but the
Speaker 2: majority they just find a good strong tree, hang a
Speaker 2: rope dead, And that's even creepier ghost because if you're
Speaker 2: walking around in there, you're finding hanging bodies.
Speaker 5: And that's one of the suckiest ways to go. The
Speaker 5: slowest death you could probably do to yourself, you know
Speaker 5: what I mean. With an overdose, okay, fall asleep and
Speaker 5: you don't wake up, you know, With a gunshot, it's
Speaker 5: pretty much instant a rope around your neck and you're
Speaker 5: dangling there and then you know, you do the death
Speaker 5: dance as you're twitching and oh, slowly going away.
Speaker 1: It's like, oh, okay, that.
Speaker 2: Is dark, and it's also like some of these are
Speaker 2: skeletons at that point, so their bones are now and
Speaker 2: lists a pile underneath that some of them they find
Speaker 2: like still. And then these I guess it would be
Speaker 2: law enforcement whoever goes in there to do the cleanup.
Speaker 2: They're cutting these people down.
Speaker 5: Yeah, I forget who it is, because they do like
Speaker 5: an annual big cleanup where they go in like once
Speaker 5: a year and just do a massive cleanup of all
Speaker 5: the bodies and stuff left.
Speaker 1: Behind and what have you. But I ain't signing up
Speaker 1: for that.
Speaker 2: Sorry, No, who's volunteering for that shift?
Speaker 1: No?
Speaker 2: No, No. Another thing that I found was that people
Speaker 2: have been drawn to the Okigahara Forest for thousands of years,
Speaker 2: not just within the last hundred couple hundred years, but
Speaker 2: thousands of years. So that's what made me go back
Speaker 2: to the whole Mount Fuji thing and the legends around
Speaker 2: that is because when you look into the mythology, Mount
Speaker 2: Fuji is considered to not only be a sacred place,
Speaker 2: but a holy mountain and was named after the goddess
Speaker 2: Fuji who came down to that. I knew people who
Speaker 2: were the original inhabitants of Japan, and she visited them
Speaker 2: and brought them knowledge, and Mount Fuji was supposed to
Speaker 2: be a place of great reverence. So it made me
Speaker 2: think of the Garden of Eden thing. She's the knowledge bringer,
Speaker 2: she's the light bringer, she's the embodiment of knowledge. Right,
Speaker 2: is this I did?
Speaker 1: Men could be.
Speaker 2: Just like they claim in the Garden of Eden when
Speaker 2: the being entity came to Eve with the Apple of knowledge,
Speaker 2: this was the evil thing, that this serpent was evil.
Speaker 2: And then we have the knowledge the light Lucifer, supposedly evil.
Speaker 2: Whether you believe it's Uriel or Lucifer, you know, that's
Speaker 2: up to you. But it was supposed to be evil.
Speaker 2: And then we have this goddess Fuji who descends down
Speaker 2: the mountain and brings them knowledge, and she's supposed to
Speaker 2: be this holy you know. And then they they regard
Speaker 2: Mount Fuji, name it after her, and then regard it
Speaker 2: as a holy place. And it's like, is this story
Speaker 2: all all that it's cracked up to be? Just speculating?
Speaker 5: Now, this came probably, if I'm going to assume, well
Speaker 5: before modern Christianity or Christianity was even thought of, So
Speaker 5: you could you could take the whole garden of Eden,
Speaker 5: that they take this story and kind of turn it
Speaker 5: into the Garden of Eden story.
Speaker 2: You know what I mean, right, like an archetype of story,
Speaker 2: because you find that with with almost all religions around
Speaker 2: the world.
Speaker 5: I mean, you go down to South America with the
Speaker 5: Aztecs and you know, Mayans and a lot of similarities.
Speaker 2: I think it's interesting that there's a lot of archetypes
Speaker 2: of like dying and rising gods. You and I have
Speaker 2: talked about that, but how many of them have a
Speaker 2: Garden of Eden story?
Speaker 1: That one's kind of pretty unique the Eden.
Speaker 2: Yeah, so that's what it kind of caught me as
Speaker 2: fishy because I was like, this sounds a lot like
Speaker 2: Garden of Eden types stuff, especially since it's in this
Speaker 2: foresty area, this rush. It's supposed to be a beautiful forest.
Speaker 2: A lot of people say it's a beautiful forest, that
Speaker 2: it's super lush and green and it's really vibrant, but
Speaker 2: it's also this death place right at the Mount Fuji.
Speaker 2: And Mount Fuji is also referred to as a world
Speaker 2: navel and is one of the many places on Earth where,
Speaker 2: according to legend, the earth meets the sky, and it's
Speaker 2: known as a Heaven's gate, and it is a place
Speaker 2: where human beings pass from Earth into the heavens, but
Speaker 2: also a place where a variation of entities can also
Speaker 2: pass from the heavens to Earth.
Speaker 1: That's very very interesting. Yeah oh wow, uh God, Like
Speaker 1: I just said that.
Speaker 5: Rings true and through through so many different cultures and
Speaker 5: religions on. Okay, if that that's their connection. You know,
Speaker 5: the Mayans the Aztecs had very similar beliefs.
Speaker 1: Of between the the above and below world and sacrifices
Speaker 1: and mmm mmmm.
Speaker 2: Yes, and the fact that it's called a navel like
Speaker 2: belly button. Yes, yes, and so I in this this
Speaker 2: I could be talking right out of my asshole right now. Goes,
Speaker 2: But people are drawn to Maltfuji to commit suicide, and
Speaker 2: they believe that after they die, they will pass through
Speaker 2: the axis Monday or the world navel into a higher plane,
Speaker 2: just like the Bermuda Triangle. The Okigahara Forest is said
Speaker 2: to contain high levels of electro magnetic energy.
Speaker 5: You know where there's a place in America that has
Speaker 5: the same type of shit, the Grand Canyon.
Speaker 2: Ooh that see, I'm telling you this out This is
Speaker 2: not I mean to the outside looking and people would
Speaker 2: just say that's a very unfortunate thing that a lot
Speaker 2: of people go there to do this.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm not saying the suicide in the Grand Canyon, but.
Speaker 2: The whole electromagnetic choral thing.
Speaker 1: Yep mm hmm.
Speaker 2: But I just want to, like, for the listeners you
Speaker 2: and I go think of things in a different way. Yes,
Speaker 2: it's not a coincidence or accident. No, So all we
Speaker 2: can do is draw conclusions based on the other things
Speaker 2: that are going on in the area, local legends, you know,
Speaker 2: the original inhabitants of Japan, the fact that it's electromagnetic,
Speaker 2: just like the Bermuda Triangle where people literally fly in
Speaker 2: and never come back out. I'm going portal. Okay, I'm
Speaker 2: going portal. It's a portal, and in various places around
Speaker 2: the world, in ancient sacred places, they're electromagnetic and have
Speaker 2: different types of magnetic anomalies that literally can transform human consciousness,
Speaker 2: and they're referred to as power places.
Speaker 5: Man, this is crazy because I watched a documentary yesterday
Speaker 5: and that's why I brought up the Grand Canyon that
Speaker 5: mirrors a lot of what you're just saying right now
Speaker 5: that happens in the Grand canyon with the Native Americans.
Speaker 5: There's two different tribes and drawing a blank on hope
Speaker 5: the hope he's one of them.
Speaker 1: And then there was another one.
Speaker 5: And to sum it up, there was an archaeologist who
Speaker 5: was affiliated with.
Speaker 1: Guess who, the Smithsonian.
Speaker 5: He's rafting down the waters and it's where the Little
Speaker 5: Colorado meets the Big Colorado, and he looks up he
Speaker 5: sees these weird markings.
Speaker 1: He goes in.
Speaker 5: He climbs fifteen hundred feet up there, goes in and
Speaker 5: it opens up to different rooms, a whole bunch of
Speaker 5: different ways. He's finding Egyptian artifacts, ancient artifacts of all
Speaker 5: these different cultures, and they're like, okay, we're the Egyptians
Speaker 5: here before anybody else, and this and that, And then
Speaker 5: there's another story of I forget the kid's name.
Speaker 1: He was in college.
Speaker 5: This was back in maybe the sixties or something like that,
Speaker 5: sixties or seventies, and his one good friend was one
Speaker 5: of the Native Americans, might have been a Hopie, and
Speaker 5: he finally his friend got permission.
Speaker 1: To take him to this one sacred spot.
Speaker 5: Now when they went in on horseback, and at one
Speaker 5: point he had to be blindfolded, so he you know,
Speaker 5: they tie the horses up and he's just sitting there
Speaker 5: along for the ridew to get there, and his Native
Speaker 5: American friend said, Okay, here it is, you know, and
Speaker 5: he's just staring at this like cliffside. He goes, raise
Speaker 5: your arm, and he put his arm up to the
Speaker 5: thing and and he went into the rock and you
Speaker 5: walk it. Yeah, he walked in and it was another
Speaker 5: room and it was like.
Speaker 1: Like very high tech stuff that that this guy saw.
Speaker 5: Yeah, and there's like floating orbs and and other things
Speaker 5: you know, flying around, like spherical balls and you know, aircraft.
Speaker 5: And then he goes he went to another wall and
Speaker 5: it took him to what they called the Chamber of
Speaker 5: like Truth or something like that. But it clears out
Speaker 5: everything that impurity, including your mind. So he when you
Speaker 5: come back out, you know, you won't have as much
Speaker 5: memory of what you witness going in there. And yeah,
Speaker 5: I'll have to try and find the documentary that I
Speaker 5: that I watch. It was just like on a whim
Speaker 5: I put it on. I'm like, whoa, this is fucking crazy.
Speaker 5: But it's kind of the same thing. Going into Mount
Speaker 5: Fuji as a spiritual portal, and you find that with
Speaker 5: the aztext. Now you're coming up into meso America finding
Speaker 5: the same thing, and you go.
Speaker 1: All over the world. There's all these portals out there,
Speaker 1: and it's Stonehenge, Stonehenge, which New Grange actually predates Stonehenge,
Speaker 1: which is even older than that, and holy shit. Yeah,
Speaker 1: and that's in Ireland. So but yeah, it's interesting.
Speaker 2: These are the power places that they're talking about, these
Speaker 2: electromagnetic power places.
Speaker 1: Yep.
Speaker 2: Mount Shasta is one of them too, because they have
Speaker 2: like UFO activity all the time out there.
Speaker 1: Yeah and seek.
Speaker 2: Now, to the untrained person, this would all just appear
Speaker 2: to be like speculation or unfortunate events, like the story
Speaker 2: you just told. They're making it up, this stuff that'sn't really.
Speaker 2: My biggest argument is that the ancient people knew about
Speaker 2: this stuff. The ancient people knew what these places were,
Speaker 2: that they were portals, and that's why they would say
Speaker 2: that's a holy place or like that's a whatever. And
Speaker 2: the Hope people even say that they were saved from
Speaker 2: a huge catastrophe by extraterrestrials who took them into the
Speaker 2: Grand Canyon or something like that.
Speaker 1: Yeah, the ant beings, the ant people.
Speaker 2: Yeah see yeah.
Speaker 5: Yeah, I forget because they even mentioned that, I forget
Speaker 5: the name of the mound that they call it, but
Speaker 5: even pilots when they're flying over it will not look
Speaker 5: down and make eye contact with this this mound because
Speaker 5: there's an opening in it, and there was what basically
Speaker 5: started the documentary off was this these two civilian airliners
Speaker 5: that crashed there in I want to say the sixties,
Speaker 5: somewhere in there, and one of the park rangers was
Speaker 5: out camping and heard people walking and peeked out the
Speaker 5: tent and it was people dressed from that time period
Speaker 5: being led by the hopie to this area. So it
Speaker 5: was like they were taking their souls back to this
Speaker 5: mound so they could they could go on to the
Speaker 5: next life.
Speaker 2: It's a.
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, another naval and they look.
Speaker 2: Like navels mountains you put. They look like a belly
Speaker 2: button m var tax portal like that just screams portal
Speaker 2: to me, you know. And there could be one in
Speaker 2: the Bermuda triangle that's like in the water, you know.
Speaker 1: Yeah, And that's not the only triangle in the world either.
Speaker 2: There's one that's the most known one, but that's not
Speaker 2: the only one.
Speaker 1: Yeah, for sure.
Speaker 5: The Bridgewater Triangle up in New England. I want to say,
Speaker 5: it's the is it the Nevada Triangle out near out
Speaker 5: in Nevada which kind of comes into Arizona a little bit,
Speaker 5: But there's weird things with that. I just wanted to
Speaker 5: do a whole episode or mini series on the triangles
Speaker 5: of the world, but I have yet to put that
Speaker 5: together and.
Speaker 1: What have you. But you know that's still sitting on
Speaker 1: my back burner.
Speaker 2: Oh that would be so awesome.
Speaker 4: Ghosts.
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, No, I am very fascinated by the Bermuda
Speaker 2: Triangle in itself. But I mean to put just another
Speaker 2: theory on the table, and I want to get your thoughts.
Speaker 2: Let's just say that this goddess Fuji was a demon
Speaker 2: and she needs the bodies in this self human sacrifice
Speaker 2: to sustain her and the portal. Let's just say, and
Speaker 2: Mount Fuji is powered by the souls of the dead.
Speaker 2: Could this be a possibility very well?
Speaker 1: Could be a possibility demons if people believe in them. Okay,
Speaker 1: take Satan for example.
Speaker 5: He's not going to come to you and appear to
Speaker 5: you and be like, oh, yeah, you're gonna burn in hell?
Speaker 1: You know this is this is the destiny for you. No,
Speaker 1: they're going to promise you all this beautiful stuff, all
Speaker 1: this great power, wealth, whatever, whatever your heart desires.
Speaker 5: So if she's coming down and kind of doing that
Speaker 5: and luring people in and she needs the power of
Speaker 5: their souls, what better way, you know what I mean?
Speaker 1: Hey, this and what is great?
Speaker 2: I mean, what is the only death that's considered like
Speaker 2: you go straight to hell?
Speaker 1: Suicide?
Speaker 6: M hm.
Speaker 2: So I just find it outside of the realm of possibility.
Speaker 2: This is just an accident that people have been drawn
Speaker 2: to this forest for thousands and thousands of years to
Speaker 2: fill themselves. At the base of this axis Monday, this portal,
Speaker 2: Mount Fuji, it's got electromagnetic activity all over it. It's
Speaker 2: super quiet. You can't And what did they say about
Speaker 2: Bigfoot two? You brought that up, that he could be interdimensional,
Speaker 2: could be that he could step in and out like that.
Speaker 5: And when he is in the area, you don't hear shit.
Speaker 5: You don't hear the wind, you don't hear birds, you
Speaker 5: don't hear crickets anything.
Speaker 1: It's dead silent mm hmm.
Speaker 2: And fun fact, there is three volcanoes in one that
Speaker 2: make up Mount Fuji, and they're active. They're active volcanoes
Speaker 2: and the last time I erupted was in seventeen oh seven.
Speaker 2: A numerologist or somebody could probably do something with that.
Speaker 2: Seventeen oh seven that seems very specific to me. And
Speaker 2: when it erupted, it went on for two weeks, so
Speaker 2: it was like a massive eruption. And until eighteen sixty eight,
Speaker 2: women were forbidden to go near it, and they were
Speaker 2: not allowed to climb it, go near it, look at it,
Speaker 2: be around it, nothing until eighteen sixty eight, which I
Speaker 2: was like, what that is so fucking random?
Speaker 1: Yeah, what's with eighteen sixty eight?
Speaker 2: I don't know, And like women in like anybody else
Speaker 2: could go, but women couldn't even like think of They
Speaker 2: couldn't talk about doing it, they couldn't think about doing it.
Speaker 2: And then I get I guess in eighteen sixty eight
Speaker 2: they were like, all right, women too, as long as
Speaker 2: you're gonna kill yourself, going ahead.
Speaker 5: Yeah, send you're trying to add them up, it just
Speaker 5: comes to twenty three, which two and three makes five.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm not nothing jump.
Speaker 2: Twenty three is a weird number though, because they did
Speaker 2: make that one movie about it, Jim Carrey, of course,
Speaker 2: but it was called twenty three. I think the three
Speaker 2: in itself is a power number. I don't know. It's
Speaker 2: the with there being three volcanoes in one that make
Speaker 2: this thing up and then all the legends and the
Speaker 2: deaths and like people are drawn here. But the ghost activity,
Speaker 2: I mean they've made I just told you they made
Speaker 2: a horror movie about it, because it's like you go
Speaker 2: in and you don't come back out. Bodies everywhere.
Speaker 1: I played the video game Silent Hill. Yes, I don't know.
Speaker 1: I don't know if they made a movie there.
Speaker 5: It's not far from me, but it's it's a little
Speaker 5: town here in Pennsylvania called Centrellia. It's the one that's
Speaker 5: been has an underground fire on it. Colvaane got that's
Speaker 5: where they got the idea for Silent Hill because was
Speaker 5: on fire and it's.
Speaker 1: Always smoking and steaming. So if you, I don't know, it's.
Speaker 5: Weird how they make these movies based on true events.
Speaker 5: That is it like they're trying to tell us something
Speaker 5: or foreshadowing future events.
Speaker 1: You know what I mean?
Speaker 2: Are you sure you're not a fucking psychic or something?
Speaker 2: Just I just recorded an episode with Davy Wavey and
Speaker 2: I went through all major horror movies and told what
Speaker 2: the true stories were behind them.
Speaker 5: Oh, no, shit, Maybe it's one of those mpath abilities
Speaker 5: that I don't know that I have that just randomly appears.
Speaker 1: You were like, oh, I.
Speaker 2: Bet they're based on all these true stories. I'm like,
Speaker 2: I just did that. Oh my god. But I mean you,
Speaker 2: you and I can talk about that a little bit.
Speaker 2: Do you think that most of these horrific ideas that
Speaker 2: people come up with, it's because something even worse has
Speaker 2: happened in real life and they've just dramatized it made
Speaker 2: it theatrical to put into a movie.
Speaker 5: Yeah, I mean, look at Nightmare and Elm Street. What
Speaker 5: was that praying on bad dreams? Don't fall asleep?
Speaker 2: It's based on a true story. H Do you know
Speaker 2: the story?
Speaker 1: Uh?
Speaker 5: Not off the top of my head, because there's been
Speaker 5: so many other things put out there that have been debunked.
Speaker 1: But go ahead and give it to.
Speaker 2: Me, Okay. It is based on a Cambodian boy who
Speaker 2: kept telling his parents they took him to like a
Speaker 2: shrink because it just was getting out of hand, and
Speaker 2: they took him to like a psychiatrist because he said
Speaker 2: he could.
Speaker 5: I don't know, And this is just a theory that
Speaker 5: I have what are they doing? What are they referring to?
Speaker 5: They're shrinking your head or shrinking your mind? Right who
Speaker 5: because knowledge and your mind is expanding in areas that
Speaker 5: they don't want controlled, so they have to shrink it back.
Speaker 2: Ooh well fuck that too, by the way, because that's
Speaker 2: Tavis Stock. All that shit is Tavistock fucking psychiatrists. And
Speaker 2: but yeah, no, So this kid was like, I can't sleep.
Speaker 2: He had he would not go to sleep. He said,
Speaker 2: I'm scared that the thing in my dreams that's chasing
Speaker 2: me is gonna get me and kill me. And he
Speaker 2: just They could not get this kid to bed, so
Speaker 2: I think they actually doped him up to get him
Speaker 2: to go to sleep, and he he died in his sleep.
Speaker 2: And the psychiatrist said that he had sudden unexplainable nocturnal
Speaker 2: death syndrome. And I had never fucking heard of that
Speaker 2: in my whole life, sudden unexpected nocturnal death syndrome. And
Speaker 2: basically the guy who came up with Nightmare on Elm
Speaker 2: Street was like, holy fucking shit. This kid said that
Speaker 2: thing in his dreams was going to get him, wouldn't
Speaker 2: go to sleep. Finally went to sleep, died in his sleep,
Speaker 2: sudden unexplainable nocturnal test syndrome.
Speaker 5: And then he plays on the whole dream aspect. Where
Speaker 5: is that really the reality we live in? Like we
Speaker 5: believe when we go to sleep that we're going to sleep.
Speaker 5: Maybe that's reality, and when we're awake, that is what
Speaker 5: we're doing right now is a dream?
Speaker 1: You know what I mean? Like there's so many If we're.
Speaker 2: Talking about portals, what if dreaming just is a big
Speaker 2: portal and you're taking somewhere else.
Speaker 5: I believe it is, because I've talked about it on
Speaker 5: my show. You know, I have loose dreaming. I'm able
Speaker 5: to control him sometimes if depending you know, if on
Speaker 5: the situation in the dream. And I always look forward
Speaker 5: to going to bed at night because I can't wait
Speaker 5: to see what my next dream or adventure or where
Speaker 5: it takes me. You know, sometimes it's not always good.
Speaker 5: Like last night, I had a dream that my wife
Speaker 5: and I were riding around. We were arguing about something,
Speaker 5: and but we weren't in our town.
Speaker 2: You know.
Speaker 1: It was just weird.
Speaker 5: But and I woke up and it was so vivid
Speaker 5: and real. I was like, did we have this conversation
Speaker 5: last night, or was that my dream? And I had
Speaker 5: to sit there and think about it for a while
Speaker 5: and I'm like, no, that that was my dream. That
Speaker 5: was that wasn't We did not have this conversation, but.
Speaker 2: You know, I do have to say, though, ghost that
Speaker 2: gets me in trouble a lot. And maybe as a
Speaker 2: man you will understand this. But I'll be mad at
Speaker 2: my husband for fucking weeks over a dream.
Speaker 1: That I've had and he did nothing wrong.
Speaker 2: In weeks. I will be like I cannot believe I
Speaker 2: would like that on you and banging. Yeah, I was like,
Speaker 2: I am so much more attractive than her. You is
Speaker 2: banging this fucking fat, gross chick right in front of me,
Speaker 2: you asshole. And he's like it was a dream, like
Speaker 2: I didn't do anything. Or I'll be like, I had
Speaker 2: this dream and you were just letting this guy yell
Speaker 2: at me and you didn't even defend me, you fucker,
Speaker 2: And it was like I dream, obviously, But I'm like
Speaker 2: actually mad at my husband.
Speaker 5: And well, I think that that plays into that's what
Speaker 5: your ego wants you to think, how you wants you
Speaker 5: to perceive how your husband thinks of you. So you're
Speaker 5: you're thinking, oh, I'm much prettier, but you're banging this
Speaker 5: ugly chick. But in reality, that is how you think
Speaker 5: he might view me, and that ugly chick is actually
Speaker 5: really you and the dream. But it's your alter ego.
Speaker 5: It's it's your other side of your your ego and
Speaker 5: your thought, and that's why you get so pissed off
Speaker 5: and think you know, or a guy's yelling at him,
Speaker 5: and that's your perception of of how he might view you.
Speaker 5: But it's only comes out in your subconscious and when you're.
Speaker 2: Like, it makes you face it. Ooh, that is good,
Speaker 2: you know. Okay, so let me let me tell you
Speaker 2: another one, because I just can't know, like with that
Speaker 2: in mind. Now I have to get your opinion. I
Speaker 2: had this dream where we were still married, but we
Speaker 2: were at like this hotel and he was like, there's
Speaker 2: something I want to show you, and he opens up
Speaker 2: a room in the hotel and it's his ex girlfriend
Speaker 2: sitting on the couch and he goes, I think, what
Speaker 2: I want to do is have kind of like a
Speaker 2: sister wives situation going on, and I want to marry
Speaker 2: her too, and you guys will be both of my wives.
Speaker 2: And I just wanted to bring you to a neutral
Speaker 2: place so we could all talk about it. And she's
Speaker 2: just sitting in this hotel room looking at me, and
Speaker 2: the only thing I'm thinking in my mind is how
Speaker 2: many ways I want to murder her? And he's like
Speaker 2: talking to us, and I'm just like, how can he
Speaker 2: be so calm about this? And she's just looking at me.
Speaker 2: And then he's like, Okay, now, I think we can
Speaker 2: go ahead and all have sex now. And I was like,
Speaker 2: oh my god, I'm going to kill both of them.
Speaker 2: I'm I'm literally going to kill both of them. And
Speaker 2: then I woke up and I didn't talk to him
Speaker 2: the rest of the day that day, and I was like,
Speaker 2: obviously that's irrational, But in my mind, I'm like, what
Speaker 2: did the fuck does this mean? Because he knows like
Speaker 2: I hate her because obviously it's like I don't want
Speaker 2: to think of my husband being with anybody else. And
Speaker 2: then his dream was like, oh my god, it was
Speaker 2: so cringey.
Speaker 5: That's your ego keeping your you chain down. Your ego
Speaker 5: wants you to be insecure. And I'm not a big
Speaker 5: proponent of killing your ego, but you have to get
Speaker 5: your ego in check.
Speaker 1: Your shadow work.
Speaker 5: And a lot of that is personal insecurities, and then
Speaker 5: they make into fruition in your dreams and make it
Speaker 5: feel real, so you feel, okay, all right, my ego
Speaker 5: want I still have to be in these balls and
Speaker 5: chains that my ego wants me to be, and you
Speaker 5: got to learn to It's part of growth. You got
Speaker 5: to learn to let go. But at the same time,
Speaker 5: it's a lot easier said than done, you know what
Speaker 5: I mean, because I still work on it, you know
Speaker 5: what I mean. Like, I had to challenge myself, was
Speaker 5: that really did we have that argument last night?
Speaker 1: Or was that really my dream? Like?
Speaker 5: And what kept flashing back was you were in a car.
Speaker 5: You were in a car, yet it was a convertible,
Speaker 5: but you were in a car. We don't have a convertible.
Speaker 5: I'm like, okay, it was a dream, so I cannot
Speaker 5: be be upset. But I understand because women, it's a
Speaker 5: proven fact women are more emotionally driven than men. And
Speaker 5: when when your emotions as a woman are played with
Speaker 5: in that manner, that makes you vulnerable and it keeps
Speaker 5: you in a weak state mentally. So it does when
Speaker 5: you have one of those and you wake up and
Speaker 5: you be like No, you're not fucking with me and
Speaker 5: my mind. I know that that was a dream and
Speaker 5: you're not keeping me in that state of insecurity and fear.
Speaker 5: I know my husband wouldn't do that. And you just
Speaker 5: have to constantly confront it. I'm not saying kill the ego,
Speaker 5: but you constantly confront it and keep it in check
Speaker 5: because you're in control, not your ego, not your shadow
Speaker 5: you are.
Speaker 2: Oh, that just resonated so bad with me when you
Speaker 2: said that, because it's like it preys on me for
Speaker 2: weeks that m those dreams, because I'll just be like
Speaker 2: so mad, and then I'll be like embarrassed because I
Speaker 2: let it affect me like that, Like I just started
Speaker 2: a real fight over a dream fight.
Speaker 1: And what I mean part of keeping you in that
Speaker 1: state you now you're embarrassed, and what is embarrassment another
Speaker 1: state of weakness, Ah.
Speaker 2: Just to get you in your most vulnerable state, to
Speaker 2: like make you look like an asshole. M.
Speaker 5: Once you start recognizing it, you can start working on it.
Speaker 5: And I'm not a proponent of killing your ego. You
Speaker 5: just got to keep your ego in check. Your shadow.
Speaker 5: It's that shadow work that you know. You hear people
Speaker 5: talk about It's not easy, you know, I work on
Speaker 5: it every day. There are certain areas of me I
Speaker 5: have problems letting, Like when someone kind of not necessarily
Speaker 5: wrongs me, but like kind of pisses me off or whatever.
Speaker 1: I'm a holder on.
Speaker 5: I hold onto that shit and that and part of me,
Speaker 5: the old me, would would plan out a revenge. Now
Speaker 5: I keep it and I'm still working on Okay, you
Speaker 5: just gotta let it go.
Speaker 1: And some days I'm really good at it. I have
Speaker 1: to constantly.
Speaker 5: Work at myself to do just stop that, because all
Speaker 5: that is is your shadow, your ego, trying to keep
Speaker 5: you in that negative mindset. And when you're in a
Speaker 5: negative mindset, you're weak, and negativity and anger is the
Speaker 5: easiest emotion to pray on, and that's where you get
Speaker 5: a lot of these people that commit suicide. Their egos
Speaker 5: are low, they're low self esteem, they don't think highly themselves,
Speaker 5: they're they're weakened.
Speaker 1: And what is easy to come in negative.
Speaker 5: So if there are negative demons and entities out there, yes,
Speaker 5: they're going to take you to a place where they
Speaker 5: can absorb you because that's the energy they need to
Speaker 5: keep going.
Speaker 2: And I listen to this one. I don't know what
Speaker 2: he is. He's some kind of a doctor, but he's
Speaker 2: like a good doctor, Like he's on our side. And
Speaker 2: he was talking about how when people hear voices in
Speaker 2: their head that this is not a mental illness problem.
Speaker 2: This can really seriously be demonic, that there's entities talking
Speaker 2: to you giving you these negative thoughts. Right, what if
Speaker 2: this suicide forest things starts at home like these steam
Speaker 2: and see this weak, vulnerable person, they start whispering to them,
Speaker 2: They put these thoughts in their head. They get them
Speaker 2: to this point where they're just barely at the edge,
Speaker 2: and then they're like, all right, go ahead, get in
Speaker 2: the car. Okay, now we're walking in and then it's
Speaker 2: just like bringing them in there. It's like starting at
Speaker 2: home and actually coming full circle back to the forest
Speaker 2: and it's calling them in. They die there and then
Speaker 2: they're absorbed. And think of it this way, ghost they're
Speaker 2: physically absorbed as well, because when they decay and their
Speaker 2: bodies decomposed, they're going right into the soil.
Speaker 1: Mh.
Speaker 5: Yeah, and it's not what kind of came to mind
Speaker 5: is is Ryan's latest episode with that author that about
Speaker 5: the priest in that small town and I think it
Speaker 5: was North Dakota. I mean he would split up families
Speaker 5: in this and net and where did it start?
Speaker 1: At home?
Speaker 5: With confessions. He would find the weak and vulnerable women
Speaker 5: in the community and prey on them. You know, he's
Speaker 5: looked at as a good figure, but he's doing evil
Speaker 5: beats And it's no different than how Satan we talked
Speaker 5: about it earlier, will come in and be like, hey,
Speaker 5: I'm going to give you money, power, fame, all the
Speaker 5: riches in the world, and never tell you that your
Speaker 5: soul is going to burn in eternity. If that's actually
Speaker 5: you know how it ends or whatever.
Speaker 1: You know, it's that they all. It's like one big
Speaker 1: spider web, it is.
Speaker 2: And everything is connected in a strange way, like just
Speaker 2: the thought of let me give you this token of knowledge,
Speaker 2: let me enlighten you, let me make you superior to
Speaker 2: other people. That's an ego tripp in and of itself
Speaker 2: big time, because it's like this goddess came down and
Speaker 2: she brought all this nu and made them superior, like oh,
Speaker 2: look what I can teach you, Look what you could learn,
Speaker 2: Look what you can have access to. And this mountain
Speaker 2: is revered like this holy sacred place, But all it
Speaker 2: is is just a big, huge monument of death in
Speaker 2: like k and it all honestly makes me wonder how
Speaker 2: it could be so lush like they always describe it
Speaker 2: as being super green and lush and just this beautiful forest.
Speaker 2: But wouldn't the dead bodies, like all the chemicals and
Speaker 2: stuff we eat make the soil bad like kale stuff.
Speaker 2: Or you think it's a good fertilizer.
Speaker 5: It's really good fertilizer. You know, it's no different than
Speaker 5: because our bodies are designed to when we die, it
Speaker 5: releases acids and to break us down.
Speaker 1: And what have you. So it's going to kill a
Speaker 1: lot of those bad bacteria.
Speaker 5: And that's why you see bugs and animals not being
Speaker 5: affected by eating a decaying body. But you know, it
Speaker 5: kind of goes back to the Native Americans or South
Speaker 5: Americans actually, that that gave us maize, which is corn.
Speaker 5: They would always plant a seat of corn and they'd
Speaker 5: put two dead fish in there. Well, that's the best
Speaker 5: fucking fertilizer you can get as a decomposing body. So
Speaker 5: whether it's a fish, a bear, a human, you know
Speaker 5: it's gonna be good fertilizer no matter how you look
Speaker 5: at it.
Speaker 2: I was also going to say, I think The Grudge,
Speaker 2: the movie The Grudge came from Japan. M A lot
Speaker 2: of really weird scary movies come from Japan. There was
Speaker 2: another one I watched called Shutter that was based in
Speaker 2: something that happened in Japan. And that one, yeah, it
Speaker 2: was weird, Like you take the picture and she's like
Speaker 2: in the picture somewhere it was.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 2: Yeah, Japan in itself is like a very I would
Speaker 2: love to go there is what I beautiful.
Speaker 1: But there's dark sides to it. But there's s sights
Speaker 1: to every country.
Speaker 2: You know, a lot of the anime, like my husband watches,
Speaker 2: is very I'll be like, what the fuck? Like that's borderline,
Speaker 2: like telling you some shit like it's weird. But if
Speaker 2: you had to give me your best conclusion, are you
Speaker 2: going portal?
Speaker 1: I could I could strongly lean that way.
Speaker 2: Yes, Okay, that's because that's where I'm at. I'm going
Speaker 2: portal on this one. And now I want to ask
Speaker 2: you ghost, what's your favorite Halloween movie?
Speaker 5: My favorite Halloween movie? Uh, like Halloween the series or
Speaker 5: just like I said, no.
Speaker 2: Either one, either one. It could be like you're we
Speaker 2: could do both your favorite Halloween trilogy or saga. However,
Speaker 2: you favorite one of those and then favorite non Michael Myers.
Speaker 1: I don't. I don't really know.
Speaker 5: I know a movie that I watched as a as
Speaker 5: a kid that I watched over and over again. It
Speaker 5: was super cheesy, super whatever, but it was April Fool's
Speaker 5: Day and it was a horror flick and and they
Speaker 5: couldn't figure out who was killing whatever. It's been a
Speaker 5: long time since I watched it, but it's probably the
Speaker 5: one I've watched maybe the most. When I was younger,
Speaker 5: I did like Nightmare on Elm Street. You know Jason movies, Halloween. Uh,
Speaker 5: I don't really have a favorite out of any of them.
Speaker 5: They were at the time. I think they were all good, but.
Speaker 1: The concepts of them, I mean, Freddie, you got Jason
Speaker 1: with the machete. You got Michael Myers who escaped a
Speaker 1: fucking a sane asylum and comes and fucking hacks up
Speaker 1: his family and in the whole town, and and and
Speaker 1: just the white white William Shatner, Matt you know, just
Speaker 1: staring at you so creepy good, it is creepy.
Speaker 2: And the score too, like the music in these movies
Speaker 2: just like me and Date talked about The Exorcist that
Speaker 2: tubular bells so iconic.
Speaker 5: But I will have to say, probably the scariest movie
Speaker 5: that I've ever watched, and.
Speaker 1: I can't watch it to this day, is ET. I
Speaker 1: have no shape. You can't make fun of yourself? Who
Speaker 1: can you make fun of? Right?
Speaker 2: All right? So what okay, what is it about ET?
Speaker 2: Because you've said that before, and I was like, what
Speaker 2: the fuck is ghost deal with ET? Because I thought
Speaker 2: it was cute.
Speaker 1: Oh, I don't know. I was such a little kid.
Speaker 5: I might have been in kindergarten when that came out,
Speaker 5: and I had all the memorability. I had posters, I
Speaker 5: had pajamas. I had a little finger that you could
Speaker 5: put over your finger that looked like ET's and it
Speaker 5: would glow. I mean, I was I was obsessed with it.
Speaker 5: And it came out and my parents took me to
Speaker 5: the theater. They're like, okay, we're gonna go see your younger.
Speaker 1: You're obsessed with this.
Speaker 5: And the opening scene where this little fucker is running
Speaker 5: through the forest and you can't really see see the
Speaker 5: brush movement, and all of a sudden, yeah, I'm running,
Speaker 5: and it's like, what the fuck, and I'm sitting there
Speaker 5: watching it with my eyes closed and crying at some points,
Speaker 5: and I'd open him up and then I see his
Speaker 5: fucking head pulsating and this and that, and just the
Speaker 5: way he looked.
Speaker 1: I was just like, this is fucking this is creepy
Speaker 1: as shit.
Speaker 5: And when I was young, I had a fear of aliens,
Speaker 5: I guess, like even grays or whatever. And it was
Speaker 5: a few few weeks ago in the tavern I had
Speaker 5: Brandon Thomas from Expanding Reality on he goes, are you
Speaker 5: a contact ee?
Speaker 1: I said, dude, I have no fucking clue.
Speaker 5: I said, I have zero memories of being abducted or
Speaker 5: anything like that. I just chalked it up to, Okay,
Speaker 5: I like this this et, dude, and then I go
Speaker 5: see it in the theater and realize, okay, this is
Speaker 5: a little scarier than I thought, you know, as a little.
Speaker 1: Kid, and I just assumed that, Okay, it scared me,
Speaker 1: so I don't. I don't. That's I don't know, I
Speaker 1: do not know. It's weird.
Speaker 2: The ugliest he was in that movie was when they
Speaker 2: put him in that body bag and he's all whitewashed
Speaker 2: kind of he looked like they covered him in like
Speaker 2: baby powder something. Now that that was that in the
Speaker 2: music in that scene was just like, oh, like what
Speaker 2: is this? They did make him look like a walking turd,
Speaker 2: which I don't like. I think they could have did
Speaker 2: a little bit more with that.
Speaker 5: But he was modeled after a Siamese cat, the hairless cat.
Speaker 5: Not the Siamese cat, but the hairless cat.
Speaker 2: I barely can see that. Like they made his head
Speaker 2: so like a oblong, kind of like it weird, Like, yeah,
Speaker 2: it was. It was odd that and I do love
Speaker 2: et I I so it makes me want to ask
Speaker 2: you your thoughts on like the grimlins that, like, not Gizmo,
Speaker 2: but like the ones.
Speaker 1: I had a little uh he can it was.
Speaker 5: It was the family dog when I was in high school,
Speaker 5: but her name was Gizmo because she looked like GisMo,
Speaker 5: the gremlin.
Speaker 2: Okay, but no, the ones that popped out at GisMo
Speaker 2: that were hairless and weird looking, you never had a
Speaker 2: problem with them, never had a problem with them.
Speaker 1: They look I thought they were funny.
Speaker 2: They look way worse than.
Speaker 1: Easy they do.
Speaker 5: But maybe that's because they look more like a monster
Speaker 5: than an alien.
Speaker 1: I guess I don't know.
Speaker 2: Now, see I was freaked out. Now this is off
Speaker 2: the point? Is this a Christmas movie? I argued with
Speaker 2: somebody the other.
Speaker 1: Day Diehard Nolins one of them did come out around Christmas,
Speaker 1: didn't it.
Speaker 2: Yeah, so he buys as a Christmas gift. Yes, so
Speaker 2: you would consider this a Christmas movie not Halloween.
Speaker 1: Depends on it could be. It could be both.
Speaker 5: I mean, you know, most people don't think Diehards a
Speaker 5: Christmas movie.
Speaker 2: But it definitely is, by the way, it.
Speaker 1: Definitely is, you know what I mean.
Speaker 5: So it's it's it's one of those you can put
Speaker 5: it in both categories if you want.
Speaker 1: It depends on how your mind works, you know what
Speaker 1: I mean.
Speaker 2: Like, I don't know why. That just caught me so
Speaker 2: off guard though, because I do like watch Grimlins, like
Speaker 2: for Halloween. I'll be like, ooh Grimlins and they were like, oh,
Speaker 2: I love that Christmas movie. And I was like, how
Speaker 2: the fuck are you getting that a Christmas movie? Like
Speaker 2: you could never put that. But there was a part
Speaker 2: two to this question, which was what was your favorite
Speaker 2: thing you dressed up for for Halloween as a kid
Speaker 2: as a kid.
Speaker 5: Well, when it was a little kid, I went and
Speaker 5: I hadn't heard anybody say this until I heard heard
Speaker 5: Kim say it on one of the episodes. A hobo
Speaker 5: and that's something we call a homeless person back in
Speaker 5: the day when I was get a hobo. So I've
Speaker 5: had the fake cigar, you know, stick with the bandana.
Speaker 1: Like I'm walking around, you know. So I went as that.
Speaker 1: But I think the favorite one I ever went as.
Speaker 1: I kind of have two.
Speaker 5: One was I went as teen Wolf one year, and
Speaker 5: Freddy Krueger a couple of times. But I think my
Speaker 5: all time favorite would have to be the Crow. I
Speaker 5: would go go as the Crow.
Speaker 2: Probably the most whose idea was that your mom.
Speaker 5: Mine and I was actually I wasn't actually high school
Speaker 5: and I we wouldn't trick at trading, but we would
Speaker 5: we walk, you know, walk around, you know, scare kids
Speaker 5: or whatever. But I'd always go as the Crow.
Speaker 1: I'm like, yeah, satuated with that movie. That's probably up
Speaker 1: there in my top top three.
Speaker 2: Yeah, that movie, I mean the way the what is
Speaker 2: his name he died?
Speaker 1: Brandon Lee?
Speaker 2: Brandon Lee And now there's a whole conspiracy theory around that.
Speaker 5: Yeah, the same person that worked on the ammunition or whatever.
Speaker 1: The inspect.
Speaker 5: That person's daughter was doing the same job on the
Speaker 5: film that Alec Baldwin shot that other lady. That was
Speaker 5: her job to inspect the rounds that she followed in
Speaker 5: her father's footsteps.
Speaker 1: Her father was on that movie and she was on
Speaker 1: that movie.
Speaker 2: And yeah, so this is a generational curse for both parties.
Speaker 1: Could be I don't know that movie.
Speaker 2: Anytime someone dies on set of a movie, it freaks
Speaker 2: me out, Like, I don't know.
Speaker 5: I don't want to interrupt, but I will say, hands down,
Speaker 5: best soundtrack to any movie ever.
Speaker 1: Oh, I do like that.
Speaker 2: I do like that.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 2: I was gonna ask you if you knew about those
Speaker 2: those kids that died on the set of that Twilight
Speaker 2: Zone movie. That helicopter that came down on them and
Speaker 2: it literally chopped both their heads.
Speaker 1: Clearly not familiar with that one.
Speaker 2: You gotta look that up, ghosts. But are you a
Speaker 2: fan of Twilight Zone at all?
Speaker 1: The old Twilight Zone?
Speaker 2: Yeah, meets too. Okay, Okay, what's what's the best episode?
Speaker 1: See, I don't know episodes.
Speaker 5: I don't know episodes, like because I watched it when
Speaker 5: I was a kid, I haven't watched it in many years.
Speaker 1: The one that sticks out to me that I liked the.
Speaker 5: Most was when the guy was on the airplane and
Speaker 5: he's looking out and the gremlins just ripping the things
Speaker 5: off the on the wing.
Speaker 2: There's something in the wing, yees.
Speaker 1: And no one would believe them.
Speaker 5: And and that was probably my all time favorite one
Speaker 5: because it sticks in my head.
Speaker 1: I probably watched that one the most.
Speaker 2: I love that one. Do you remember one where there
Speaker 2: was a girl getting surgery and they had her head
Speaker 2: all wrapped up and her face was all undercovers and
Speaker 2: they kept saying like, oh, like it didn't the surgery
Speaker 2: didn't work, it didn't take. And you don't find out
Speaker 2: till the very end that she's gorgeous, beautiful supermodel and
Speaker 2: all the other people have big faces.
Speaker 1: Yes, I do remember that one. Yes, Oh my god, Yeah.
Speaker 2: They all like like that, like noses and oh.
Speaker 5: I wish they'd do a good remake of the Twilight Zone.
Speaker 5: They tried to do it again, and it just I
Speaker 5: don't I think they tried a little too hard because
Speaker 5: what makes it creepy is the way it was filmed
Speaker 5: and black and white, some color, you know what I mean.
Speaker 1: It was just they had it down and it did
Speaker 1: it made you, It made you say okay, like, oh.
Speaker 2: Shit, everything about it was just fantastic. There's two okay,
Speaker 2: I got it to these last two episodes and then
Speaker 2: I'll release you from your captivation.
Speaker 1: But you released the handcuffs.
Speaker 2: The episode where the family goes over to the grandpa's
Speaker 2: house because he's about to die and he's a millionaire,
Speaker 2: and he says, I will leave you everything I have,
Speaker 2: but you gotta wear these masks for the rest of
Speaker 2: the night, and you have to stay by my bedside
Speaker 2: for the rest of the night. And they were like
Speaker 2: these grotesque masks with just the faces all twisted up.
Speaker 2: And then he dies, the clock strikes twelve, and they
Speaker 2: removed their masks and they've become the masks.
Speaker 1: Oh, I don't know if I saw that one.
Speaker 2: Yeah, And the each mask represent the qualities that that
Speaker 2: person had. Greed vanity. One of them had like that
Speaker 2: she was a hypochondriact and she was she turned into
Speaker 2: like this old lady with like this twisted face. One
Speaker 2: of them was glutton and the guy turned into like
Speaker 2: this big And that episode stuck with me forever because
Speaker 2: he was like, you don't even care about me. The
Speaker 2: only reason you're here right now is because you know
Speaker 2: I'm gonna die.
Speaker 1: You know that you're explaining it. I do remember it.
Speaker 2: Yeah, so he want he was like, Oh, you're just
Speaker 2: here for the money, right, I'll give you the money,
Speaker 2: but I want you to have to look at yourself
Speaker 2: for the rest of your life and know what's really
Speaker 2: who you really are. That episode stuck with me forever,
Speaker 2: and the one where the little kid puts everybody in
Speaker 2: the cornfield. It was the kid from Lost in Space,
Speaker 2: that Billy Moomy kid, okay, and he would just he
Speaker 2: had superpowers and like if he didn't like what you
Speaker 2: were saying, he would be like, I wish you into
Speaker 2: the cornfield, and like they just disappear. So everybody he
Speaker 2: owned everything, like everybody was in control as a six
Speaker 2: year old over everything, because if he didn't like you,
Speaker 2: he would just send you to the cornfield. God motherfucker.
Speaker 2: They used that little fucker in another one where his
Speaker 2: grandma called him on a toy phone and he'd pick
Speaker 2: it up and he'd be like Gramba and it would
Speaker 2: be her voice on the other end of the phone,
Speaker 2: and it ended up like she wanted it him to
Speaker 2: kill himself to come be with Twilight was way ahead
Speaker 2: of its time.
Speaker 5: Yeah, I have to go back and watch some of
Speaker 5: these because you're describing him and they sound kind of familiar.
Speaker 1: But I don't remember the whole episode. There.
Speaker 5: There was a scary movie and I can't remember the
Speaker 5: name of it, but these kids got trapped in an attic,
Speaker 5: and I remember the kid. I think the boy or
Speaker 5: the girl was talking and he didn't want her to
Speaker 5: have a mouth anymore, and she didn't have a mouth.
Speaker 1: I want to say someone said it was like Flowers
Speaker 1: in the Attic.
Speaker 2: It's not Flowers in the Attic, because that was like
Speaker 2: a one of my favorite movies of all time and book,
Speaker 2: but that one was like based on like if it
Speaker 2: could really happen to some kids. They were like tortured
Speaker 2: and abused, but it wasn't like supernatural or paranormal. But
Speaker 2: I think I remember the one that you're Is it
Speaker 2: old movie.
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's like probably seventies seventies.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I think I remember what you're talking about. But
Speaker 2: Flowers in the Attic like that. The grandma was like
Speaker 2: super religious and she basically she was like, I'll let
Speaker 2: you come back and live with me. It was her
Speaker 2: daughter and her kids, but she was like what we'll do.
Speaker 2: Is the retribution that I seek for you to be
Speaker 2: able to get back into our family is I murder
Speaker 2: all your kids. And the mom was like okay, and
Speaker 2: she fed him arsenic poisoning. She didn't feed them at
Speaker 2: all sometimes and literally locked those kids in the attic
Speaker 2: and was attempting to kill them, which my mom was
Speaker 2: obsessed with that movie, so of course I was.
Speaker 6: But yeah, that's a whole Like I do remember something
Speaker 6: standing out, like they had control of the TV or
Speaker 6: he'd put plate almost kind of like that Twilight episode
Speaker 6: he put like this kid would make you be in
Speaker 6: a different place or kind of like torture or whatever.
Speaker 5: Yes, going to the corn, but I just remember he
Speaker 5: made his sister's mouth disappear or whatever, like you're not.
Speaker 2: It sounds like that episode of Twilight Zone. That that
Speaker 2: movie could have been modeled like a movie off of
Speaker 2: that episode, because it was.
Speaker 5: Yeah, it was creepy, and I cannot, for the life
Speaker 5: of me, I've never figured out what movie this was.
Speaker 5: I asked people every night once in a blue moon
Speaker 5: when we get on a topic like that, But that was.
Speaker 1: One that really scared me. But it was really cool
Speaker 1: and I'd love to go back and watch it again.
Speaker 2: Do you like m Night Shyamalan movies.
Speaker 5: Yeah, they get a little bit predictive.
Speaker 1: Uh. The best one was, uh, fuck no, I'm drawing
Speaker 1: a blank. I see dead people. Oh, sixth sense, sixth sense.
Speaker 1: I did like the one with the aliens, signs, signs?
Speaker 1: The fuck?
Speaker 5: What was what was the one with the Amish people
Speaker 5: in the in the.
Speaker 2: The other the other the village or.
Speaker 1: Something like, yes, the village.
Speaker 5: And I do give mad respect to films when he
Speaker 5: when he does make films, he films here all in
Speaker 5: Pennsylvania because he is from Pennsylvania, from like right outside
Speaker 5: of films.
Speaker 2: That's why I asked you that was like, I wonder
Speaker 2: if ghosts like him nice movies.
Speaker 5: Yeah, but I had mad respect for for you know,
Speaker 5: signs and sixth sense. Sixth sense was Wow, probably his
Speaker 5: best work. And then you go back and you figure
Speaker 5: out every time the kids he's read you know or
Speaker 5: you know, and the whole time he's talking to a
Speaker 5: dead person, which was Bruce Willis, And it.
Speaker 1: Just kind of what.
Speaker 2: Sometimes he has like a mind for this kind of stuff. Now,
Speaker 2: the Last Airbender, you guys can tell me to fuck off,
Speaker 2: but I liked it. I thought he did a good
Speaker 2: job with it. A lot of people hated it, but he.
Speaker 5: Does give with the Powers the Last Airbender was that
Speaker 5: the kid with the Powers?
Speaker 1: That?
Speaker 5: Yeah, I like that too. I watched it with my
Speaker 5: daughter when she was younger, and she wanted to watch it.
Speaker 5: I was like, that's a pretty cook cool movie. I
Speaker 5: wanted there to be a sequel to it. I really
Speaker 5: did too, and he never did. And I was like, man,
Speaker 5: you let us up to a point where you could
Speaker 5: have ran with that for at least two or three
Speaker 5: more movies.
Speaker 2: I think he could have made two or three more
Speaker 2: movies after that because and he only didn't because people
Speaker 2: hated that first one and I never understood why. Yeah,
Speaker 2: I thought it was spectacular, yeah mm hmm, but yeah no.
Speaker 2: I love Halloween obviously is my favorite time of the year.
Speaker 2: And then who better than Ghost himself to be part
Speaker 2: of this spectacular. If anybody wants to come and check
Speaker 2: out my Third Eye podcast, can you tell the listeners
Speaker 2: how to find you?
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Speaker 2: I just want to say, I think that's an excellent
Speaker 2: idea what you two had about that. And I know
Speaker 2: a lot of people who've had bizarre encounters, so maybe
Speaker 2: I should send them your way.
Speaker 1: Please do. And you can find me and inquiries of
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Speaker 5: Go check out open Minds Media if you want to
Speaker 5: start a podcast or content creating in some way. Uh,
Speaker 5: there's many avenues over there that can can point you
Speaker 5: in the right direction. And podcasters over there if you
Speaker 5: want to start a podcast, will answer your questions and
Speaker 5: and not treat you like a dick and not treat
Speaker 5: you like they don't have time, you know what I mean.
Speaker 5: And you reached out to me and and and Ryan.
Speaker 5: We both gave you. You know, he has more knowledge
Speaker 5: than I do, but I gave you what I knew
Speaker 5: and what have you and supported you. It's kind of
Speaker 5: kind of like that with open Minds media. And it's
Speaker 5: nice to see people up and coming. And I never
Speaker 5: thought I would be sitting here with a little protege
Speaker 5: that is killing it in the game. And you know,
Speaker 5: you get good guests on, you cover great topics, you
Speaker 5: do great research. Your Laurel Canyon. I'm gonna have to
Speaker 5: go back and re listen to that, and wow, I
Speaker 5: mean just the information that was there. I was just like,
Speaker 5: holy shit, like it was good. It's good stuff you're doing.
Speaker 1: You're doing a good job.
Speaker 2: It would not have happened if it weren't for you.
Speaker 2: So it is when you say that it's the truth.
Speaker 2: I am like ghosts protege, like anyone ever asked me.
Speaker 2: I'm like, you know, ghost from either Dye, go thank
Speaker 2: him because he made this happen.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 2: Yeah, No, You've always been like near and dear to
Speaker 2: my heart, and I loved your show before I ever
Speaker 2: even met you, so I was like, oh my god.
Speaker 5: And that started out people by a five star rating
Speaker 5: and review. She gave me a five star rating and review,
Speaker 5: started following me on Instagram. And then somehow, in my
Speaker 5: retarted small mind, I put two and two together that
Speaker 5: you were that person that gave the five star review
Speaker 5: asked you to be on the show. You're like, yeah,
Speaker 5: you're kind of nervous. You broke down your your paranormal
Speaker 5: background with your family, and then we did Da Vinci
Speaker 5: one and two. You've been on the Tavern and you're like, hey,
Speaker 5: I'm like, pull the trigger, pull the trainer, do it. Yes,
Speaker 5: you have the passion for it, you can do it.
Speaker 5: And I'm glad you did. And I'm humbled and honored to,
Speaker 5: you know, be the one that started it all for you.
Speaker 5: You know, I'm just a normal guy over here in Pennsylvania.
Speaker 2: But well, well think of it goes because this is
Speaker 2: the kind of support people need who want to start
Speaker 2: a podcast. Absolutely, So what you guys are doing with
Speaker 2: Open Minds Media is like, Hey, you don't have to
Speaker 2: even know us personally, just come and check it out,
Speaker 2: ask us a question if you have a question, Like,
Speaker 2: that's the support system people need to like really get
Speaker 2: the momentum building up. Like Okay, now I feel like
Speaker 2: I'm comfortable in what I know to maybe start doing this.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 5: Absolutely, And and like I told you in the beginning,
Speaker 5: if I don't know the answer, I'll point you in
Speaker 5: a direction that somebody can get you that answer, you
Speaker 5: know what I mean. And I don't really think I
Speaker 5: ever really had to, but you know, because you you
Speaker 5: picked up on it really easy. I mean, especially with
Speaker 5: how you promote your your Instagram stuff. I'm like, wow, man,
Speaker 5: that that's good quality. How you do that with your
Speaker 5: episodes and what have you, Because I I don't know
Speaker 5: how to do that that well, you know, so maybe
Speaker 5: that's something you could teach me.
Speaker 2: I was going to say, just say the word, and
Speaker 2: I'm giving you the whole tutorial, Like I'm here for you.
Speaker 5: So it's a community, you know, Hey, I'm going to
Speaker 5: share what I know with you. You know, That's why
Speaker 5: I do podcasts. I want guests on to share their
Speaker 5: knowledge with me so I can get more knowledge and
Speaker 5: enlightened and what have you and jump on your show.
Speaker 1: I did a little research.
Speaker 5: I kind of came into a roadblock, but I think
Speaker 5: we turn out a bang or we kind of went
Speaker 5: from suicide forest into a whole another fucking rabbit hole
Speaker 5: of information and how it kind of all connects through
Speaker 5: all these spiderwebs portals whatever you want to call them,
Speaker 5: around the world and ended up on.
Speaker 1: Scary movies and and why ghost is scared of.
Speaker 2: Et So yes exactly, but no, thank you so much, Ghosts,
Speaker 2: very welcome. You are the best. And to all my listeners,
Speaker 2: thank you so much. Happy Halloween. We will catch you
Speaker 2: on the next one.
Speaker 7: I don't care how the weather vein point. When the
Speaker 7: weather vein point to do me, you gotta be done
Speaker 7: it to me when you're lives looking to mine. No,
Speaker 7: I think I.
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