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People say, good money to see this movie. 3 00:00:10.919 --> 00:00:13.519 When they go out to a theater, they want cold sodas, 4 00:00:13.880 --> 00:00:15.960 hot popcorn and no monsters. 5 00:00:16.120 --> 00:00:19.199 In the Protection Booth, everyone pretend podcasting isn't boring. 6 00:00:20.239 --> 00:00:47.280 No, it's to Asuna Lubert p Peroista and they said that, yeah, 7 00:00:47.280 --> 00:00:48.000 the infant. 8 00:00:49.600 --> 00:01:03.560 Seas toks have we talk? 9 00:01:04.319 --> 00:01:10.040 Yeah, try press, but it's just a hurricane. 10 00:01:10.599 --> 00:01:12.560 Mature party is bog. 11 00:01:12.719 --> 00:01:17.439 There is nothing, you know, I thought, dogmented Janna direction 12 00:01:17.560 --> 00:01:19.159 phialally Senterment. 13 00:01:21.400 --> 00:01:31.239 Well, I guess, I ma, she had to guess, But 14 00:01:31.239 --> 00:01:33.159 I talk about moneys. 15 00:01:35.239 --> 00:01:49.359 Totally around the solution, agreed exact a Pelissa. 16 00:01:53.120 --> 00:01:58.640 Raps and yours for the best the Okay, Conny's all guess. 17 00:02:00.000 --> 00:02:31.759 Probably say emente lois, but I cant a yeah la mano. 18 00:02:37.199 --> 00:02:41.319 Na through the temple. 19 00:02:45.280 --> 00:02:47.719 Hey, folks, welcome to a special episode of The Projection Booth. 20 00:02:47.719 --> 00:02:50.560 I'm your host Mike White. On this episode, I am 21 00:02:50.680 --> 00:02:56.080 talking with Mario Mayo, Bruno Martin, and Santiago Toboado all 22 00:02:56.159 --> 00:02:59.719 about their new film Luger. It is currently on the 23 00:02:59.759 --> 00:03:02.960 first Will circuit. It is a crime film and it 24 00:03:03.159 --> 00:03:07.879 is fantastic. Mister Martin and mister Mayo are both actors 25 00:03:07.960 --> 00:03:10.039 in it. Mister Martin is also the director of the 26 00:03:10.120 --> 00:03:13.439 film and he co wrote it along with mister Tobolato. 27 00:03:14.240 --> 00:03:17.400 Had a lot of fun talking with them. Their English 28 00:03:17.520 --> 00:03:20.520 is way better than my Spanish, as you probably know, 29 00:03:21.319 --> 00:03:25.120 so just be warned that occasionally they are working amongst 30 00:03:25.120 --> 00:03:27.639 themselves to get things translated, so we might jump from 31 00:03:27.719 --> 00:03:30.599 voice to voice a little quickly. But we start with 32 00:03:30.719 --> 00:03:34.120 mister Mayo and mister Martin, and then mister Tobolato joins 33 00:03:34.199 --> 00:03:37.039 us shortly thereafter. Had a great time talking with them, 34 00:03:37.080 --> 00:03:38.800 and I hope you have a great time listening to 35 00:03:38.879 --> 00:03:41.680 the interview. Mario, if you're all right, I'll start with you. 36 00:03:42.120 --> 00:03:45.840 And I'm very curious how you decided to get into acting. 37 00:03:46.960 --> 00:03:49.520 When I watch a Chile I love football and I 38 00:03:49.680 --> 00:03:55.360 love acting, and I have done twice awards. I played 39 00:03:55.400 --> 00:04:00.479 football many years ago, like a football professional player, and 40 00:04:00.759 --> 00:04:05.719 now I I decided to play like to REGOs. 41 00:04:05.759 --> 00:04:09.639 I love I love films. I love this this job. 42 00:04:09.879 --> 00:04:13.599 It's brook it's in the blood. It's in the blab 43 00:04:14.120 --> 00:04:17.079 that is in the blood. When when when we were 44 00:04:17.319 --> 00:04:21.759 in the at the school and me. We were partners 45 00:04:22.000 --> 00:04:25.920 in at the at the school, we decided to film 46 00:04:26.040 --> 00:04:31.639 short films and then many years later we can film 47 00:04:31.720 --> 00:04:32.439 this this movie. 48 00:04:33.240 --> 00:04:39.560 Our first shirt was when we were was fourteen fourteen. 49 00:04:41.199 --> 00:04:47.439 We shot in in video we wanna a little festival. 50 00:04:48.000 --> 00:04:51.240 I see yes of a small town. 51 00:04:52.279 --> 00:04:56.759 I think this is our first job. You can't see 52 00:04:57.079 --> 00:05:01.040 the shirt is a fucking ship with a video camera, 53 00:05:01.240 --> 00:05:03.319 home video camera with a lot of. 54 00:05:03.439 --> 00:05:04.279 With a lot of block. 55 00:05:06.560 --> 00:05:11.759 An adaptation of a shirt short writing of do you 56 00:05:11.879 --> 00:05:12.839 know Ruben Dario? 57 00:05:13.199 --> 00:05:13.800 I do not know? 58 00:05:14.800 --> 00:05:18.920 A writer from the end of nineteenth century. 59 00:05:19.920 --> 00:05:24.120 It was a history for of vampires A vampires in 60 00:05:24.199 --> 00:05:28.519 Madrid in the and at the fall of the twentieth century. 61 00:05:28.959 --> 00:05:33.480 It was very creepy. But now we are going to 62 00:05:34.240 --> 00:05:36.120 make an addition of Blu Ray. 63 00:05:36.120 --> 00:05:40.800 Of the of our fish film I will curse you, 64 00:05:41.839 --> 00:05:47.920 the film who started by Mario and that we produce. 65 00:05:48.879 --> 00:05:52.120 I produce and in the extras of the Blu Ray, 66 00:05:53.040 --> 00:05:56.639 it's going to be that shirt like a like a 67 00:05:56.879 --> 00:06:03.160 golden piece for the fans for see the beginning of 68 00:06:03.600 --> 00:06:06.040 of our reps, of our professional relationship. 69 00:06:06.839 --> 00:06:08.839 How did you guys get connected? Like how did you 70 00:06:08.959 --> 00:06:10.800 know that Mario wanted to be an actor, and how 71 00:06:10.879 --> 00:06:12.639 did he know that you wanted to be a director. 72 00:06:13.519 --> 00:06:17.000 Well, we were partners at the school, at the high 73 00:06:17.040 --> 00:06:22.600 school with fourteen I know Mario and he was always 74 00:06:22.759 --> 00:06:24.720 a smart and. 75 00:06:26.360 --> 00:06:34.720 Cute guy, tall, handsome you anyway, I was. I was 76 00:06:34.800 --> 00:06:36.079 a rocker. He was a. 77 00:06:38.120 --> 00:06:44.800 Rude old rocker and I was a camp Maybe we 78 00:06:44.920 --> 00:06:48.800 were very different, but like a white gypsy. 79 00:06:49.639 --> 00:06:53.720 Yeah, and we and we start to start af our relationship, 80 00:06:54.199 --> 00:06:59.920 our friendship, that short start because in our literature little 81 00:07:00.040 --> 00:07:06.959 at the class, our professor, our future, our teacher or 82 00:07:07.040 --> 00:07:12.759 there as a job that was an adaptation of if 83 00:07:12.839 --> 00:07:18.439 we weren't and we were the only ones who catch shirt. Yeah, 84 00:07:18.519 --> 00:07:21.199 we we choose. We choose to film as our field. 85 00:07:22.040 --> 00:07:24.240 And I say to Mario, okay, you do you want 86 00:07:24.279 --> 00:07:28.519 to play the principal role. And that was the beginning. 87 00:07:28.639 --> 00:07:32.160 But Bruno is a good a great actor too, thank 88 00:07:32.160 --> 00:07:35.439 you very much. But I am now I am very 89 00:07:35.879 --> 00:07:39.920 comfortable behind the behind the camera. It's no problem to 90 00:07:40.319 --> 00:07:43.480 to do a little role like like in Luger. But 91 00:07:44.920 --> 00:07:47.800 I think I don't know if in my next film 92 00:07:48.000 --> 00:07:51.399 I will will appear. I don't think so, like like 93 00:07:51.639 --> 00:07:56.079 like Twente a little bit really, or or maybe like 94 00:07:56.199 --> 00:07:58.079 kid Coach more little bit more? 95 00:07:59.319 --> 00:08:02.279 Who are of your biggest influences when you were coming 96 00:08:02.360 --> 00:08:05.000 up as a filmmakers and like, oh, this film is fantastic. 97 00:08:05.279 --> 00:08:07.279 I want to be like this guy, or you know, 98 00:08:07.319 --> 00:08:08.959 I'm a fan of this person. Who are some of 99 00:08:08.959 --> 00:08:09.959 those influences for you? 100 00:08:10.959 --> 00:08:15.680 It's very typical to say Quentin Tarantino obviously, but I 101 00:08:16.079 --> 00:08:20.959 am working now on cinema because people like Alex, like Lesia. 102 00:08:21.279 --> 00:08:23.279 I don't know if you if you know that the 103 00:08:23.319 --> 00:08:29.480 Spanish director Robert Rodriguez, Walter Hill, some peking Path, Fabian 104 00:08:29.519 --> 00:08:37.159 Berlinski from It's a It's an Argentine director maybe obviously 105 00:08:37.519 --> 00:08:41.000 obviously Quentin Tarantino, and I think that that was the 106 00:08:42.320 --> 00:08:47.440 Those are the more important influence in in Luger. To 107 00:08:47.559 --> 00:08:53.840 save you some direct some congreted directors. Okay, Santiago, Yes, I. 108 00:08:53.919 --> 00:08:54.519 Hear, I'm here. 109 00:08:54.759 --> 00:08:58.440 I'm really really, I'm really really sorry, because you know 110 00:08:58.480 --> 00:09:01.120 I would say my elder job and the story. 111 00:09:01.679 --> 00:09:04.440 I am going to say that in in Spain okay, 112 00:09:04.639 --> 00:09:25.759 Mike too, and English Mike, you look not okay and 113 00:09:26.279 --> 00:09:26.919 are you in the moment? 114 00:09:31.240 --> 00:09:33.360 Okay? Understood, understood, Mike. 115 00:09:33.519 --> 00:09:35.960 What we are going to do in order to get 116 00:09:36.000 --> 00:09:39.960 the most fluent conversation possible is that Bruno and Mario 117 00:09:40.039 --> 00:09:43.120 will try to speak in English, you know, as much 118 00:09:43.159 --> 00:09:46.799 as they can, and if they commit some mistake or 119 00:09:46.840 --> 00:09:49.480 if they get a start, then I will help them 120 00:09:49.759 --> 00:09:50.720 or I will correct them. 121 00:09:50.919 --> 00:09:52.639 Okay, So I was just. 122 00:09:52.639 --> 00:09:54.919 Asking Bruno and Mario kind of how they got their start, 123 00:09:55.000 --> 00:09:57.039 and I want to ask the same of you, Santiago 124 00:09:57.080 --> 00:09:58.840 as well. How did you decide that you want to 125 00:09:58.879 --> 00:09:59.559 be a screenwriter? 126 00:10:00.600 --> 00:10:03.240 When I was little, you know, I thought that the 127 00:10:03.399 --> 00:10:07.120 director of a movie lived in the real world of 128 00:10:07.240 --> 00:10:10.399 the movie with me that you know, for example, the 129 00:10:10.519 --> 00:10:12.519 director of The Good Is lived in the real world 130 00:10:12.559 --> 00:10:16.080 and he was just with the camera filming what happened 131 00:10:16.120 --> 00:10:16.799 in the reality. 132 00:10:16.960 --> 00:10:17.120 Right. 133 00:10:17.639 --> 00:10:21.120 That was when I was five years old. And then 134 00:10:21.159 --> 00:10:23.320 I decided, like, okay, I tually, I. 135 00:10:23.399 --> 00:10:26.559 Want to live in the same world as the movie makers, 136 00:10:26.600 --> 00:10:30.080 you know, so I want to be a filmmaker. And then, 137 00:10:30.240 --> 00:10:33.759 of course I learned that was not true. Actually, but 138 00:10:34.120 --> 00:10:37.840 I really loved the feeling of being engaged by a 139 00:10:37.960 --> 00:10:42.879 story and tell a story with images or you know. So, Mike, 140 00:10:43.000 --> 00:10:46.480 that's when I decided to become a filmmaker, and seen 141 00:10:46.519 --> 00:10:48.759 I was little, I got it very clear in my mind. 142 00:10:49.279 --> 00:10:53.200 So I just focused on my studies you know, to 143 00:10:53.320 --> 00:10:57.799 a right to the filmmaking school. And once I got 144 00:10:57.879 --> 00:11:01.840 into the film skill school, I made the two exams 145 00:11:01.960 --> 00:11:03.399 you know to the film in the school. 146 00:11:03.799 --> 00:11:06.480 One was for a director and the other on was 147 00:11:07.000 --> 00:11:09.919 for writer. And that moment of my life. 148 00:11:10.000 --> 00:11:13.559 I have directed some music videos on my own, some 149 00:11:13.960 --> 00:11:19.720 scot phones and I got into the screenwriting you know 150 00:11:20.080 --> 00:11:23.600 degree in that film school. And then I discovered a 151 00:11:23.720 --> 00:11:28.120 work that I really loved because it had the whole creativity. 152 00:11:28.679 --> 00:11:30.919 But at the same time, I didn't have any stress 153 00:11:31.080 --> 00:11:35.240 of directing and you know, controlling the whole team. So 154 00:11:35.360 --> 00:11:38.120 I thought like, okay, I found my dream job, you know, 155 00:11:38.279 --> 00:11:41.200 like this is what I want to do because it's fun, 156 00:11:41.799 --> 00:11:44.240 I love it and I don't have stress as you 157 00:11:44.320 --> 00:11:46.480 know taking care of the whole team. 158 00:11:47.200 --> 00:11:50.159 And I asked Bruno and Mariodus as well, But who 159 00:11:50.240 --> 00:11:51.960 were some of your influences coming up? 160 00:11:52.879 --> 00:11:55.679 The first one will be some rainy you know for me, 161 00:11:56.000 --> 00:12:00.399 like ever since I watched an Army of Dark, which 162 00:12:00.440 --> 00:12:04.559 is my favorite movie ever, wanted to do something like 163 00:12:04.759 --> 00:12:07.399 what he does, you know, like I really really love 164 00:12:07.519 --> 00:12:11.440 because I'm I love horror, and I love the whole 165 00:12:11.519 --> 00:12:14.799 horror general. But at the same time, I love comedy 166 00:12:15.320 --> 00:12:20.279 and I feel I love when I'm watching a movie 167 00:12:20.360 --> 00:12:23.159 that makes me laugh but also makes me feel scared. 168 00:12:23.799 --> 00:12:27.399 And you know, my biggest influence was Sam REMI by 169 00:12:27.840 --> 00:12:28.960 that that means. 170 00:12:29.559 --> 00:12:31.960 When did you meet up with Bruno and Mario? How 171 00:12:32.440 --> 00:12:34.440 when was that with Mario? 172 00:12:34.879 --> 00:12:37.600 Was because we had some friends in common in Not 173 00:12:37.759 --> 00:12:41.279 Turn Nothing festival back in Madrid some years ago, so 174 00:12:41.559 --> 00:12:45.080 I knew him for other friends and I think we 175 00:12:45.360 --> 00:12:48.840 got a drink in a bar after the film festival ended, 176 00:12:49.320 --> 00:12:53.480 and he was very very nice with me and with Bruno. 177 00:12:53.679 --> 00:12:56.039 It was funny because I met him in an event 178 00:12:56.279 --> 00:13:00.120 from movie Star series. He just won an award or 179 00:13:00.200 --> 00:13:06.360 the Sun Dance Sudance a shorts competition, right, Bruno was Sandance, then. 180 00:13:06.320 --> 00:13:10.960 TV shirts, Mike Spain. Everybody knows in a bar drinking, 181 00:13:11.840 --> 00:13:14.960 So in my gea, I knew the case of Sandy 182 00:13:15.159 --> 00:13:17.399 that that that thatesn't doesn't great. 183 00:13:18.919 --> 00:13:19.759 That's true, that's true. 184 00:13:20.039 --> 00:13:25.000 Anyway, I knew Bruno in Thatdance TV short event and 185 00:13:25.120 --> 00:13:29.279 the funny thing was that Bruno was my neighbor. Actually 186 00:13:29.399 --> 00:13:32.440 he lived very very close to my house, so it 187 00:13:32.879 --> 00:13:36.039 drove me home after that event, and then he told me, like, 188 00:13:36.240 --> 00:13:37.440 we have to meet one day. 189 00:13:37.559 --> 00:13:41.559 So I wrote him and he invited me to his house. 190 00:13:42.240 --> 00:13:43.240 And then when I went. 191 00:13:43.200 --> 00:13:46.120 Into his house, there were a whole group of people, 192 00:13:46.240 --> 00:13:48.360 and Mario was amongst that group of people. 193 00:13:48.440 --> 00:13:51.960 So I felt like, okay, that's a small world, right. 194 00:13:52.559 --> 00:13:54.960 How did you guys decide to start working together? 195 00:13:56.440 --> 00:13:59.679 From my point of view and in my in my case, 196 00:13:59.879 --> 00:14:03.720 was that Bruno proposed me to do something with him. 197 00:14:04.200 --> 00:14:06.879 I admired his work before I have seen it, and. 198 00:14:08.440 --> 00:14:11.960 I participated a little bit in the second season of 199 00:14:12.600 --> 00:14:17.120 Other Rio, which was his web series. I just helped 200 00:14:17.200 --> 00:14:19.120 him a little bit and he gave me a small 201 00:14:19.200 --> 00:14:24.240 tamil and I knew his previous job. I admired that job, 202 00:14:24.519 --> 00:14:28.720 and when Bruno proposed me to work with him, I 203 00:14:28.840 --> 00:14:32.840 feel very flattered. You know, I of course wanted to 204 00:14:32.919 --> 00:14:35.399 join because he told me one thing that I still 205 00:14:35.480 --> 00:14:39.360 remember that was I don't know how, but I'm going to. 206 00:14:39.480 --> 00:14:40.600 Make this movie. 207 00:14:40.879 --> 00:14:43.960 And you know, I knew he was going to make 208 00:14:44.039 --> 00:14:46.240 it because other people, you know, they can promise and 209 00:14:46.320 --> 00:14:48.720 they don't do. But I knew Bruno was able to 210 00:14:48.799 --> 00:14:50.360 make it, so you know, I just trusted him. 211 00:14:51.320 --> 00:14:57.600 Santello as he told you, was my neighbor, was writer 212 00:14:58.320 --> 00:15:04.879 and we were recording and shooting website, Yes for many years. 213 00:15:05.879 --> 00:15:11.840 We want to upgrade to do something more professional live internet, 214 00:15:12.240 --> 00:15:17.000 the two Vimeo and to make a film, a long film. 215 00:15:17.799 --> 00:15:22.279 I say, okay, I'm going to try to work with Santiago, 216 00:15:23.360 --> 00:15:25.879 see if our relationship works or not. 217 00:15:26.080 --> 00:15:31.840 And and it works. We were writing Looker for two 218 00:15:31.919 --> 00:15:33.000 years more or less. 219 00:15:33.879 --> 00:15:37.240 We started knowing each other better during that process and 220 00:15:37.320 --> 00:15:39.159 also learning from each other. 221 00:15:39.320 --> 00:15:40.559 We learned a lot from each other. 222 00:15:41.399 --> 00:15:47.080 Yes, writing with Santiago wars a school there of learning. 223 00:15:48.120 --> 00:15:52.440 And then we clear the idea that that role will 224 00:15:52.519 --> 00:15:56.639 be played by Mario and we will write for him 225 00:15:57.159 --> 00:15:59.440 because Mario is our actor. 226 00:16:00.240 --> 00:16:04.519 Do not always have have come with me? And we 227 00:16:04.720 --> 00:16:08.639 know together he had me. He always called me with 228 00:16:08.840 --> 00:16:14.600 my with my person, and okay, I'm very grateful of it. 229 00:16:15.480 --> 00:16:17.200 Where did the idea where Luger come from? 230 00:16:17.799 --> 00:16:21.240 I think the first idea is the luger inside uh 231 00:16:21.759 --> 00:16:22.759 safe box. 232 00:16:23.960 --> 00:16:29.360 Then we try to tell friendship, story of sacrifice or 233 00:16:29.519 --> 00:16:33.600 second chances. Really, the Luger is the background of the 234 00:16:33.799 --> 00:16:37.120 of the movie. It's not important in the in the movie, 235 00:16:37.240 --> 00:16:38.440 the mcgoffin or the movie. 236 00:16:39.039 --> 00:16:41.120 I just want to add that when you write a 237 00:16:41.279 --> 00:16:45.559 movie and actually Brune and I relationship it was so great, 238 00:16:45.639 --> 00:16:50.159 you know, and that sometimes there's one would think about 239 00:16:50.240 --> 00:16:53.519 this project and of course it will be in the future. 240 00:16:53.600 --> 00:16:56.519 That is that you don't know where one writer ends 241 00:16:56.639 --> 00:16:59.720 and the other starts, because there are many things that 242 00:17:00.000 --> 00:17:02.759 I don't remember if it was Bruno who proposed that 243 00:17:03.360 --> 00:17:04.359 or me who proposed that. 244 00:17:04.480 --> 00:17:05.880 You know, there were many things. 245 00:17:06.240 --> 00:17:09.559 So actually the starting point I remember it was about 246 00:17:09.680 --> 00:17:14.160 two sucks that they needed to get something back for, 247 00:17:15.119 --> 00:17:19.240 I say, a gangster who had a restrain in order 248 00:17:19.359 --> 00:17:22.319 he had to stay at Pomp. He was arrested at Pomp, 249 00:17:22.920 --> 00:17:27.000 and then everything started changing, so you know, we polished 250 00:17:27.000 --> 00:17:29.480 the script, we changed the script. But I remember that 251 00:17:29.920 --> 00:17:33.519 actually the element of the luger was Bruno's idea because 252 00:17:33.559 --> 00:17:36.720 I didn't knew what a luber was before the writing 253 00:17:36.799 --> 00:17:39.839 the strip, so I he knew it and keep probing. 254 00:17:40.559 --> 00:17:43.279 But I love that rich backstory that you give it. 255 00:17:43.400 --> 00:17:46.759 The whole story of the Nazi and the suicides and 256 00:17:46.839 --> 00:17:49.960 all that. I mean, it just adds so much texture 257 00:17:50.039 --> 00:17:50.559 to the film. 258 00:17:51.440 --> 00:17:54.759 It's a fake story, I said, or not true a story. 259 00:17:55.279 --> 00:18:00.240 There are many many Nazis to run away and were 260 00:18:00.400 --> 00:18:05.200 hiding here in Spain and escape from Berlin in the 261 00:18:05.279 --> 00:18:11.359 last moment, and many of them arrives to Spain in 262 00:18:11.480 --> 00:18:14.960 a in a in a plane, in a little airplane 263 00:18:15.160 --> 00:18:19.759 and const and landing, landed, they escaped from the plane 264 00:18:19.920 --> 00:18:24.519 and they run away around Spain, and many of them 265 00:18:25.039 --> 00:18:29.039 were wanted many many years, and many of them I 266 00:18:29.200 --> 00:18:32.119 think whenever I found there is a friend of mine 267 00:18:32.279 --> 00:18:37.039 that is an expert on Nazi things. He's very weird 268 00:18:38.000 --> 00:18:41.519 but interesting to talk with him. And all weeks when 269 00:18:41.720 --> 00:18:43.720 when I meet in a bar, always in a bar, 270 00:18:44.640 --> 00:18:47.440 you always tell me a story is about Nazis. 271 00:18:47.880 --> 00:18:52.519 I'm very very interesting for me. And so one day I. 272 00:18:54.519 --> 00:18:58.079 Asked to him, I am writing a story about Nazis. 273 00:18:58.440 --> 00:19:04.119 Can you explain me so details or some kind of 274 00:19:05.400 --> 00:19:08.160 way of forms the models. 275 00:19:08.920 --> 00:19:12.000 Usually the way that the Nazis were doing things. You 276 00:19:12.079 --> 00:19:15.279 know there there said there are ways to do things normally. 277 00:19:15.480 --> 00:19:20.039 Actually he found out how they commit suicide, because that's 278 00:19:20.079 --> 00:19:23.119 the true part of the story that Bruno said that 279 00:19:24.039 --> 00:19:28.319 some Nazis actually they killed themselves because they couldn't stand 280 00:19:28.759 --> 00:19:32.519 with the feet. That's that's why they killed themselves, because 281 00:19:32.799 --> 00:19:36.759 it was a shame for them that defeated the army 282 00:19:36.799 --> 00:19:38.839 that they were living, you know, in that moment. 283 00:19:39.000 --> 00:19:41.160 That that the fitting situations. Sorry. 284 00:19:41.359 --> 00:19:44.359 And also some of them skated to Spain or to 285 00:19:44.799 --> 00:19:48.079 even Latin American countries. Some of them were never found. 286 00:19:48.400 --> 00:19:51.039 Some of them were found, but with other names. You know, 287 00:19:51.160 --> 00:19:53.799 they changed their names, they changed their lives. So that's 288 00:19:54.440 --> 00:19:57.119 the true beneath the whole story. 289 00:19:58.000 --> 00:20:01.319 The cool idea of that point of the film is 290 00:20:01.680 --> 00:20:06.559 that eight guys with an only gun and he has 291 00:20:06.640 --> 00:20:12.359 to to commit suicide the way that he has to 292 00:20:12.680 --> 00:20:17.079 to do that at the end, it's only one on foot, 293 00:20:17.799 --> 00:20:23.839 and that guy stays, Okay, I'm gonna get out. I'm 294 00:20:23.880 --> 00:20:26.920 gonna escape right away, and he say I want to 295 00:20:27.039 --> 00:20:30.720 live at the end. That that's the cool of that. 296 00:20:31.319 --> 00:20:35.039 That's the grandfather of our of our tough guy of 297 00:20:35.119 --> 00:20:39.240 the film. And and that ballot that has his name 298 00:20:39.960 --> 00:20:45.200 at the end go to her grandson. That ballot has destiny. 299 00:20:47.480 --> 00:20:47.759 Mario. 300 00:20:47.880 --> 00:20:50.480 I know you've spent in a lot of movies and 301 00:20:50.559 --> 00:20:53.920 TV shows. How is it for you when you get 302 00:20:53.960 --> 00:20:56.599 a role that is written specifically for you? When it 303 00:20:56.680 --> 00:20:59.599 when it comes to something that Bruno and Santiago are working. 304 00:20:59.440 --> 00:21:05.200 On previously, when we when Bruno decided to to write 305 00:21:05.480 --> 00:21:10.480 this this character for me, we work together the character 306 00:21:11.079 --> 00:21:16.559 many months before. And Okay, I know perfectly that what 307 00:21:16.960 --> 00:21:22.559 Bruno wants to do in this character, and he knows 308 00:21:22.640 --> 00:21:25.960 that I am strong, I am clever, but the cutter 309 00:21:26.079 --> 00:21:29.480 is not clever. The clever the clever personally is David 310 00:21:30.160 --> 00:21:34.480 the other, the other main actor, and we will work 311 00:21:34.680 --> 00:21:35.519 it a lot. 312 00:21:36.400 --> 00:21:40.799 I think the result is good. It's very good. 313 00:21:41.599 --> 00:21:45.079 How did you and David work together to make it 314 00:21:45.160 --> 00:21:47.000 feel like you had been friends for so long? 315 00:21:47.920 --> 00:21:51.039 They did on me, he knows many years ago, and 316 00:21:51.640 --> 00:21:56.279 we are afraid, but this movie has picked more and 317 00:21:56.400 --> 00:21:58.680 more relationship to he and me. 318 00:21:59.640 --> 00:21:59.799 Now. 319 00:22:00.039 --> 00:22:03.920 Oh, I think they very good friend like a brother, 320 00:22:04.240 --> 00:22:07.599 like Bruno, like Sandy. We are a great team and 321 00:22:07.720 --> 00:22:11.200 I think that a should of the movie is for that. 322 00:22:12.240 --> 00:22:17.039 As we wrote the Tony role for Mario, we wrote 323 00:22:17.160 --> 00:22:19.160 the rock par role for the Bid. 324 00:22:20.160 --> 00:22:23.759 We're friends of mine and they were friends together. 325 00:22:24.720 --> 00:22:27.039 The result on the on the screen that you see 326 00:22:27.319 --> 00:22:31.599 and the the audience can see that truth in in 327 00:22:31.720 --> 00:22:34.440 the in the interpretations, in the comic, in. 328 00:22:34.480 --> 00:22:37.640 The performance perform. 329 00:22:38.839 --> 00:22:41.519 Very very very that was the result. 330 00:22:42.279 --> 00:22:45.440 There are so many strong characters and so many great 331 00:22:45.519 --> 00:22:47.920 actors and this I mean, I can't remember the name 332 00:22:47.960 --> 00:22:51.000 of the gentleman who plays the I guess it's the 333 00:22:51.119 --> 00:22:56.039 nephew of the main gangster, the Italian. That scene in 334 00:22:56.240 --> 00:22:59.559 the bar when he's trying to get back the luger 335 00:22:59.720 --> 00:23:01.799 from the person that pought it. 336 00:23:02.240 --> 00:23:05.200 The nexcuse Bruno then nothing the bars. 337 00:23:05.279 --> 00:23:07.519 Daniel North is the actors and I seeing the bar 338 00:23:07.759 --> 00:23:10.359 that is even in the back to us when we 339 00:23:10.559 --> 00:23:11.200 talk with him. 340 00:23:11.920 --> 00:23:14.599 I really love that scene and I love you in 341 00:23:14.720 --> 00:23:15.200 that scene. 342 00:23:16.000 --> 00:23:19.359 He's a great actor. He's very very good at all 343 00:23:19.519 --> 00:23:24.480 and he had to short a parish in the at 344 00:23:24.559 --> 00:23:25.359 the movie, but. 345 00:23:25.599 --> 00:23:28.160 It's a scary as kat in those eis. 346 00:23:28.839 --> 00:23:30.799 Dani's awesome. And the sequence. 347 00:23:31.359 --> 00:23:34.880 We love that sequence because it's in the middle. It's 348 00:23:34.920 --> 00:23:38.400 in the middle point of the film, and and I 349 00:23:39.079 --> 00:23:40.119 was trying to. 350 00:23:41.599 --> 00:23:45.119 We we were trying to make this sequence very intense, 351 00:23:45.640 --> 00:23:47.839 you know, because it was the mid point of the movie. 352 00:23:47.880 --> 00:23:51.720 So we needed an intense sequence to do this point, 353 00:23:51.960 --> 00:23:55.400 because we want to make the audience think that this 354 00:23:55.599 --> 00:23:56.640 is going to explode. 355 00:23:57.039 --> 00:23:59.960 In La premia version, the give on explode. 356 00:24:02.720 --> 00:24:06.119 Actually, in the first verson, the first draft of the screenplay, 357 00:24:06.720 --> 00:24:10.599 that a scene ended up with a very big fight. 358 00:24:11.039 --> 00:24:14.880 So it exploded and there were dead people that were 359 00:24:14.960 --> 00:24:15.880 plowed everywhere. 360 00:24:16.440 --> 00:24:19.359 And the producer read the scene and say to us, 361 00:24:20.400 --> 00:24:24.759 we can make that, guys, to do that, it's they 362 00:24:24.880 --> 00:24:25.839 that you want to shoot. 363 00:24:26.000 --> 00:24:31.680 It's very expensive, very expensive. And he said, okay, we 364 00:24:31.759 --> 00:24:33.480 are going to do another version. 365 00:24:35.279 --> 00:24:39.599 We are going to kild some some roles and to 366 00:24:39.759 --> 00:24:45.920 clean that sequence, and we make the second version. And 367 00:24:46.279 --> 00:24:50.759 when at the beginning there was fifteen characters in that 368 00:24:50.960 --> 00:24:54.160 scene and at the end there are four characters and 369 00:24:54.440 --> 00:24:57.640 the and the two and the two good guys and 370 00:24:58.720 --> 00:25:01.920 I and I think the sequence is better than the 371 00:25:02.079 --> 00:25:02.759 first version. 372 00:25:03.240 --> 00:25:06.400 It's more simply, it's more organic. 373 00:25:07.240 --> 00:25:10.279 It's a more is darker actually, it's kind of darker, 374 00:25:10.559 --> 00:25:16.079 kind of hadie. It's a more how to say, subtle, right, Like, 375 00:25:16.319 --> 00:25:18.799 it's not so explicit, it's subtle. 376 00:25:19.240 --> 00:25:24.200 Less elements in the scene. Is more a smarter Bruno. 377 00:25:24.400 --> 00:25:27.279 Your character is fantastic and you play him so well, 378 00:25:27.480 --> 00:25:31.279 so calm, menace and just you seem to be the 379 00:25:31.359 --> 00:25:33.319 only person that's really kind of using their head. 380 00:25:34.079 --> 00:25:38.000 Charlie is a role that it's not a bad guy, 381 00:25:38.400 --> 00:25:42.480 is not a good guy. It's an element. It's a 382 00:25:42.799 --> 00:25:45.640 character that is an element to help the main character. 383 00:25:46.160 --> 00:25:49.799 In the second act of the movie when Mario, when 384 00:25:49.920 --> 00:25:53.559 when Tony disappears, Tony is the lucky, the lucky amulet 385 00:25:54.480 --> 00:26:00.160 Rafa and it's very nice to see Rafa with his part. 386 00:26:01.799 --> 00:26:05.519 Crying like a dog in silence in the movie for 387 00:26:05.680 --> 00:26:06.079 that point. 388 00:26:06.160 --> 00:26:09.680 From that moment, you know, the rest of the movie 389 00:26:09.759 --> 00:26:13.799 from now, Rafa will be alone with you know, Charline 390 00:26:13.839 --> 00:26:17.440 in that moment. Charlie atually replaced as Tony in that 391 00:26:17.599 --> 00:26:21.880 moment because Raffa feels comfortable and safe with Tony by 392 00:26:21.960 --> 00:26:27.119 his side, because as Bruno said, he's the lucky hotem, 393 00:26:27.279 --> 00:26:32.359 He's lucky amulet, you know. And then once Tony disappears. 394 00:26:32.559 --> 00:26:37.119 In that moment that Tony disappears, Charlie replaces Tony. It's 395 00:26:37.279 --> 00:26:43.119 kind of a hey, the tape fifter replacement, right, because 396 00:26:43.640 --> 00:26:46.119 she you don't know if he's good, If he's good, 397 00:26:46.240 --> 00:26:46.799 that's why. 398 00:26:47.079 --> 00:26:49.319 He's kind of a shape shifter character. 399 00:26:50.079 --> 00:26:54.240 But then when you start feeling comfortable with Charlie, when 400 00:26:54.319 --> 00:26:59.880 you started empathizing with him, then suddenly Charlie disappears to 401 00:27:00.640 --> 00:27:04.640